Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S8 EP36: Gabrielle

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant singer-songwriter, Gabrielle. Gabrielle's amazing new album 'A Place In Your Heart' is out now and available to buy HERE. And you can also find dates, tickets and info for her tour HERE Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] NEW ALBUM OF THE SAME NAME IS OUT MAY 10TH - PRE-ORDER HERE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener,

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Isla, can you say Josh? Josh. Widicum. Widicum. Isla, can you say Rob? Rob. Beckett. Rob.

Can you say Beckett? Yeah. Well done. There we go. Rob? Rob. Beckett? Rob. Can you say Beckett? Yeah. Well done. There we go. I liked it. Write the name Isla. Yes.

Yes. Yeah, no, I was just trying to make head or tail of who this email's coming from. Sorry. Oh God, now you're slamming the bloody contributor. No, I'm not. You know how you get long emails sometimes, Rob. Yeah. I'll read you the whole thing, Rob.

Okay, cool. Hi, Robin Josh. This is my two year old cousin Isla saying your names or at least trying. Me and mum are big fans of the pod. Kyra, God, Zach, 12 and Beth 32 from Leeds. This is Zach's email address. So this is a 12 year old that's emailed in. Right. So was that Zach getting? No, that must have been Beth or Isla's mum. We don't know. But as Zach has emailed in, so we've got a 12 year old listener. We've got a 12 year old listener and he's got an email address. Did you have an email address at 12?

No, they didn't really exist, did they? I did actually. Did you? Yeah, at secondary school. Fatboybeckettph18. Like that? Yeah. At hotmail.com.

At hotmail.com. Is it still active? I don't know. Hotmail's gone, isn't it? You're certainly more active. Hotmail's notmail.com is it still active? I don't know. Hotmail's gone in it. You're certainly more active.

I don't think hotmail exists anymore. Is it? Yeah, it does. Michael's on hotmail. You and hotmail Michael. Yeah. Sorry. Every email I've sent you from hotmail. Fucking loser.

Why do you email from hotmail? It's like having a classic car. No, it's not yet. It will be at some point. But it's like if you went, oh, I can't pick you up. I'm driving like a 1992. Yeah, it's not a classic car. It's like having a mum's car.

Also, especially when you're in the business of, you know, the internet. It feels like you should have like the new cool one. Your business is online. Yeah, can we talk about, and I don't want to use the word. Oh, do we believe that by the way, Michael, what happens with that? If we believe that Michael? Yeah, we'll believe the C bar, everything else is fine. Right. Well, you've given it away now. You've given it away. They knew what it was. These people Rob. Do we have to pay per bleep? We've set up their name as their email address. Rob at robbecket.com.

Yeah. Go fuck yourself. You're not Steve Jobs. You're just a bloke in the stag do round robbing. That's what you are. You're not impressing anyone. That's easy to do. That's just if you've got a website.

You've probably got one. I don't want one Rob. So I've got one. Why have you got a website? You work in HR, mate. You're just someone's... You're just using me as an example. No, I don't want one of. So I've got one like that. Why have you got a website? You work in HR, mate. No, but you've used me as an example. No, I don't mean you. Well, don't say me.

No, but I was looking for me. You don't mean you. You can't just say you and then not say I didn't mean you. You said me. All right, Steve at SteveJones.com. Not the TV presenter before you jump on it. Yeah, but I think it depends

if what business they've got, Josh. Yeah. I think the C-bum is really harsh for those kind of things. I can't stand those people entrepreneurs. Yeah, I bet there's a Stephen at Stephen Bartlett.com. Anyway, Gabrielle today Gabrielle at Gabrielle.com. This is exciting, isn't it? Yeah, this is huge. This is big. So Gabrielle, for those new, obviously, superstar, yeah, deserves to be on it in her own right. Yeah, talking about kids. However, she is a local to me lives near me, as my

delivery driver told me, and also goes to my local screw fix, which I've not been to since I went last time. Yeah, to get my tool bag. We've covered this extensively on the podcast. And you've met Gabrielle on Graham Norton. And talked about Screwfix on there. Yeah. And so now we're going to probably talk about kids after Screwfix. We're about to do the interview in real life. Often these things are pre-recorded. When should we drop in the Screwfix stuff? we'll just say how has it been since screw fix news? The huge screw fix news. Yeah, okay. How many kids does she got? Doesn't really say on her.

Oh, she hasn't got kids. She has got kids. No, I'm joking. She has a son that was born in 1995. Blimey. Wow. And a daughter born in 2003. 21 and 29. So she might have grandkids by now potentially. She might,

that's what we'll find out. Rob, when I was a kid, it's not going to surprise you that I was obsessed with the charts, and I used to learn all the chart positions. Okay. And it just made me feel safe and warm. Right, okay. Was you quite alone as a child? Yep. Do you think I should drop in that I still remember that Gabrielle's Dreams is the first solo single by a British female artist to go straight in at number one? Was that Dreams? Dreams, first debut solo single by a British female artist to go straight in at number one. She had some absolute bangers as well.

She did. She's fucking- On by, going nowhere. Rise. What is it called? Rise? Yep. Out of reach. Oh man, she's got so many hits. Dreams can come true.

Yeah, obviously. Yeah, my mum played her album non-stop. There you go. I think she's doing the O2, Rob. She was born in Hackney and she moved to me, to Bromley. Well, there we go. So she's got loads in common. She's got her own website, she moved to me to Bromley. Well there we go so she's got loads in common. She's got her own website Rob so she might have her own email address. You see and there

was a poll of the most desirable places to live in London and Bromley came last. Which I felt was harsh. Here you go, it's a tour date. Oh my word she's supported by the bloke from the lighthouse family. Come on you can't lighthouse family him off. Give him his name. With very special guest Tunde of lighthouse family. Yeah, I mean, Nathan Lighthouse. guest Tunde. Come on, you've got to give people a little bit of help here. Yeah, Rob Beckett live a little bit of help with Josh Whitacombe from what was that Twitter panel show you did before?

Twitter the Year. Twitter the Year. Host of Twitter the Year, Josh Winokum. Not my finest moment. Oh she's in Plymouth as well. She's in the Pavilion. Plymouth How? Is she? When's she doing Plymouth? It's not on her tour dates. Plymouth Summer Sessions, Tom Jones. Maybe she's supporting Tom Jones there. What's Plymouth How? Plymouth Ho is like a park. Basically, it's gonna be one of those big park gigs. Right. Okay. It'll be like British summertime in Hyde Park, but smaller. She's doing a few festivals with Tom Jones running Thetford.

There we go. I can't wait for this. And she's a real laugh Rob, having met her before. Lovely. And you know, we get to ask about screw fix at last. Perfect. Well, let's stop beating about screw fix at last. Perfect. Well, let's stop beating around the bush, mate. Gabriel. Gabriel, first and foremost, absolutely buzzing to have you on for a number of different reasons.

Obviously, within the podcast, there's a few reasons, but just growing up as a child, I mean, when you broke through in 94, I don't want to make you feel I was eight, but my mom played your album because it was back in the day when you got an album and that would dominate the car stereo or the kitchen stereo for a summer. And you dominated my ears, I'd say for two to three years. And so it's so you know, certain songs are earworms. Yes, it just constantly goes around. So how does it feel to exist in people's heads like that almost 30 years on from that album? That's right. I mean, the song Dreams dropped

in 93. So you probably would have been seven. I was trying to make you feel better by saying eight. I'll round it up. I own it. I love that. I mean, I always say now to my audience, I'm sorry, but I'm not sorry because I've got an audience that I have like little teeny tiny tops, like five and seven year olds who I say five, no, but maybe about from seven onwards when I was doing shows last year because of the Mars singer. But then I've got like, I'll have shows, I've got these young guys look as young as you and younger. They've got their tops off or they're singing out of reach. I'm like flipping it. Can I say that? Yeah. It's just incredible.

You can say more than that. You're so flipping it, Gabrielle. Flipping it. It's just incredible. I love it. I'm here for it. So just the fact that I know a lot of those kids would have been forced for my music, they would have been in the back of their car seats, they would have been on the school run and their parents would have been like banging my music up back there.'m saying these things i shouldn't be saying

have you ever swung before you've apologized for flipping back there's a few words that are my favorite swear words but yeah you know come on come on give us one what's the worst one in my favorite word yeah no i'm a woman so you know I love the see next Tuesday word because anyone that says I'm like they're there. I came across a Rick Cohen hat and it has that word in it. I'm like oh my god I'd love that. I'm like but I can't because I put young fans out there and I can't be seen but that is my word that I think it should be one that I can have in my bag. If you've done me something wrong I just need to put it on and that's it. That's it and you've been served. What a transition in a minute from can I say flip?

Because I'm trying to be good and obviously I'm a mum, I'm a grandma now you know what I mean? You're a gran. I'm a gran to a you know what I mean? You're a gran! I'm a gran to a one year old. So how old are your kids? You've got two kids. Right, two kids and a grandson. So I've got my daughter's 21, my son recently turned 29. Well, they're both recently, March and April. And then my grandson, who is also, he turned one in March.

So I feel like I've got a full house. They don't, well, my son doesn't live with me anymore, but he's around the corner with his family. And then I've got, you know, like his newly made family and it's me and my daughter. So, and then my grandson who's literally here a lot. You know those things where they go, you won't believe how old you feel. Gabrielle is a gran. You do not look it though. You do not look it. Thank you my darling. Thank you. Lovely. Love it. Loving this. But it must be exciting for you though to. Thank you my darling. Thank you, lovely. Love it.

Loving this. But it must be exciting for you though to be able to hit all these different generations even in your own family. Like we were talking about your new fans where I was at the Adele gig in Hyde Park where you were supporting and you know I said oh Gabrielle's on the bill and I was like oh yeah I know Gabrielle. Yeah that was you know like no offence. I was like I'm seeing her in Screwfrix.

I'm sure that'll be fine. She's good. Gabrielle, yeah, no offence, I was like, I'm seeing her in Screwfrix. I'm sure that'll be fine. She's good. But I went out there and then there was loads of people my age watching. And when you come out, everyone was sort of in disbelief, going, that's Gabrielle. You forgot the songs that you had. That's Gabrielle. And then people have this out of body experience of accessing these songs from when they were a kid.

And everyone was going, man, it was amazing. You're a huge hero to Adele as well, aren't you? Oh, listen, I love that. I mean, you know, she's like this super queen and she's incredible and yet at the same time she manages to be so humble. I don't know if I'd be as humble as her because she's just incredible. I mean, she's amazing. But just to know that, you know, some of my songs are the backdrop of her life, you know, and she's so young. And it was incredible to be asked to do that. Up until it happened, I actually still didn't believe it would happen. And then she made a point of coming to see me.

I mean, she even came on stage with her rollers. So she should be getting ready before her big entrance. But she's like, oh, no Like she, you know, she's there with her rollers looking exquisite and just being amazing. And I felt really chuffed by that. And you know, to meet her, to perform, to kind of sing for the audience that are her, predominantly her audience. That was the most fun time. And to do it over the two days,

65,000 people for two days each day. I'm like flipping it. This is amazing. So I had a fun time and to know that she cites me somebody that she looks up to. I'll take that and run. I'll take you back now. Did that impress your kids? You know what? My kids did come along. They were impressed. I mean, it's funny because with kids, I mean, when I say impress them, they kind of take it for granted. You know what I mean? You know,

like you're doing your thing. You're on the teller. you do it, you know, you're big and I'm talking about you by the way, right? Me, yeah, not Josh. Yeah, yeah, but you're both lovely and big. But what happens is that, I don't know how old your kids are, but when they get to a certain age, they're used to you being mum, but you're the flipping taxi service. You're the cook, you're the cleaner. And then my son years ago was like, mum, I don't know, he must have annoyed me. I, I said, Mom, we really love to hear the sound going voice. That's why you're talking. And I said, yeah, so do millions of others. And I have to say that. You're just a mom in this house. Yeah. As you get older, they're less impressed. Yeah. You know

what I mean? Like I don't get you worried about seeing me. It's like, yeah, you know, I think to go to the del is such a big fan of you and she's the biggest star on the planet. Yeah, exactly. As a child, the biggest star on the planet goes, you were an inspiration to me. I love your music. You're one of my heroes. As I was like 27, 28, looking at your mum, going blimey, she actually, maybe people do like the sound of her own voice. Well, now I have to bring that in because kids are just mean.

That's what I'm gonna say. I love them, but they're mean. You're not anybody when you're in your home now. You're at home, you're not like somebody to tell your mum. Oh, you're... Yeah. Yeah, mum, dad, that's what you are. Here come the carrots making their way upfield, followed by the whole wheat bread.

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And so 29, so what point in your career was your son born? Were you taking him around gigging and in recording studios and stuff? How did it work? Or did you have a break? No, I tell you what happened. I first onto the scene in 1993. I've got a fact about that.

Oh really? Oh, I want to hear about it, come on. Because I used to be obsessed with the charts and chart numbers. Oh wow. You were the first UK solo female artist to debut at number one with your debut single. Wow.

You know something, it's incredible and I'll take that. I never thought that would happen but you know at the time when I came out in 93, 95 he was born but I remember being in the studio literally a week before he was born and thinking I was going to go back there on the Monday but he came came on the Saturday. And then I was back in the studio weeks later finishing Give Me a Little More Time. So I never really, although I was pregnant with him and working and then by the time I gave birth, I literally, I think a few weeks later, but I never took them on the road with me. It was something that I'm really happy that my mum would step in and be like, right, do what you need to do. Yeah. I couldn't have done

it without her. Singing eight months pregnant does it affect, I know this sounds weird but obviously you've got all these physical differences and stuff. Yes. Does it affect your voice in any way like you still hit high notes if you're like. I could still hit high notes but it affected my tummy I was always hungry. I was actually the nightmare artist in the studio because I'd go in and we've got like so many songs that I've written and I've got to now vocal them, like just get the proper vocals. But I'm like, I want like, I remember my thing was like it had to be chips and mayonnaise and what's the mustard and it had to be the, what is it? The Coleman's mustard? Is it the yellow mustard? English mustard? Yeah, that one. It's got a burn me and I'd always be in trouble, but I had to have it and that was my pregnancy

thing. I just wanted to eat all the time, but chips and mayonnaise and mustard. And so I'd go there and we're meant to do all these things and I'd probably do one or two, then I'd have to go home again. And so I was a nightmare. So vocally I was all right because my range, I haven't got a Mariah Carey range. You know what I mean? I do my thing. And I always say to people, when I see these other artists out there, I think, I'm more of a speech-talk singer. I don't have these high notes like them.

But it was just a fun time. I was happily pregnant. My mum was like, I can't believe it. Most people can't wait for the baby to disembark. I don't think you're coming off a plane. No, you're coming out of my belly. But it was a fun time for me, you know what I mean? The kids stay at home with your mum then when you were out touring and things like that, so they had a bit more stability and normality because

I think it's a balance where when that is your job, you want them to see your world in bits, but really kids need routine. Precisely, I do remember my son was maybe one and I had to do a radio tour and I remember having to go to Scotland's. And so it was like having to take everything and travel car and everything. So my mum came with. So, you know, initially it seemed like a good idea. You know what I mean? And it was fun to have him.

But I think the moment he was in nursery and then he was at school, that was when I just made that decision. No, I wouldn't, you know, take him on the road. So he would have stability and familiarity. That was my thing. But it meant that because of the fact that I felt like I was away from them when I was working, every opportunity I could take to be with them is what I did.

So I would have long periods in between albums. I didn't want to miss their school plays. I didn't, you know what I mean? My son, embarrassingly for him, I'd be around when he was doing the school sports day and I do remember one time it was raining and I don't, I can't run now but I just remember he's there and I'm like, oh my god, I just got to kind of, I don't even know how I even thought to do this but I remember somehow being running alongside him. Oh so you ran the race with him?

Not quite with him but I was there with the umbrella, all these friends' parents stood in their places and somehow mum is trying to run and encourage him with the umbrella, all these friends' parents stood in their places and somehow mum is trying to run and encourage him with the umbrella. I'm that embarrassing mum. I was that embarrassing mum. I never got to hear of any more sports days of that for him. My daughter was a bit more like, she never did the running thing. She heard what you did, that's why.

Do you want to do running? No, me mum will follow. So did you take conscious career breaks then throughout your career? Do you think maybe if you didn't have children, do you reckon you may have done a few more albums and things like that? Maybe, but you know something, I didn't even feel I was making it consciously, but I know to the annoyance of my record company, because you know, you've got artists, I don't know how they do it, they're putting out album after album, that dedication and commitment.

But I was just always happy in between putting out each album, taking my time. But I didn't realize that one time it'd take me 11 years to bring out a new material. There was an 11 year break at one stage. But I think everything happened for a reason. And then the time when everyone's concerned about their mental health, I think I was doing these things, you know, trying to make sure I was mentally there and present for my family and feeling good about myself and not being an absent mother. When you're a parent, remember your mother, father, you sometimes do worry, you know what I mean?

Like I remember thinking when I was away from my kids, does my son or daughter know that I'm mom and not that my mother, who's their grandma was there? You know, I used to be worried that they think she was their grandma, but I was never that. You know, I used to feel worried that they'd think she was their grandma. But I was never that extreme, but I just wanted to make sure that they knew who I was. So I think it was just easy. It was just a natural progression for me. And I don't ever look back and think,

you know what, I wish I'd done more. I wish I'd, I.E. more music. I wish I'd been around more. I now, because of those long gaps, I'm having the time of my life. I'm in my 50s now, my kids are off hand, being a grandma means you get to give them back. And I get to go in the room. Good luck guys, you still got yours for a while, but mine, I just love that. So now I'm living the best time of my life. And I think, you know, maybe it's because it is

meant to be now, you know, nothing happens before it's time. And I'm here for it. I'm enjoying things more. I can do what I want when I want to do it or not. And so, yeah, I'm just enjoying it. I mean, I went on a 32-day tour last year, which I would never have done had my kids been younger, because I would be more concerned that, oh, my God, you know, I would have been away for too long. I was away from home for like three weeks before doing something, coming back for a day and going back, but that would never have happened. It would never have happened. I would never have allowed it.

And you're doing massive arenas now in April, April 2025. God, this is how popular you are. It's gone on sale a year in advance. Glasgow, Newcastle, Birmingham, Hull, Sheffield, Cardiff, Manchester, AO Arena, just to be clear not the one that doesn't work as an arena. Brighton, London and Bournemouth. And so do you think your kids will come and watch those? Oh no, definitely. My kids have been shameful when they're ready. They pull pranks on me.

I'll go and ask, maybe it's like Sunshine or something, and sometimes I will kind of close my eyes and sing. And then someone's like, did you see Jordan? My son's up there with my audience trying to grab my hand. And I don't realize, I'm getting, and I mean, they pull pranks on me all the time. So they do turn up with loads of their friends. So I enjoy that.

So, you know, the fact that it's arenas, it's my first ever headlining arena tour, you know? So take it over 30 years, but I'm really happy to be doing this. That's mad, isn't it? It is crazy, isn't it? But you know what? Nothing before its time. So, you know, one thing ticked. The fact that I'm still here 30 odd years later and I have this amazing audience. I love it. It's almost like what you did was sort of way before its time. You know, you broke through in 93,

you know, which is definitely a single female artist, person of colour coming through at that point. Yeah, exactly. I love that. I'm loving that. And from like Hackney working class background. which was definitely a single female artist, person of color coming through at that point. Yeah, precisely, I love that, I'm loving that. And from like Hackney, working class background. Yeah, working class girl, that's right. And also, I was one of the time when image was so key and obviously you wore the eye patch and something with your hair and stuff like that.

So you was dealing with all those kind of things. And then you broke through and you had this massive success which could go to your head and send you mad. But through all this, it seems like you've been really on top of your mental health and what you want from your career and life. You managed to have a lovely family and pick and choose when you toured and then you had this big long break which made sense, then you come back and Adele and Arenas. So how have you navigated all of that as a woman in the industry and being pregnant and performing and touring? How have you managed that without sort of losing your mind slightly?

Because that seems like a recipe for a sort of a mental health crisis. How did you feel that went through that time? Do you know something? I think because I was quite stubborn and I think that there are always going to be people trying to... You're in luck Rob, you're in luck. Yeah, stubborn. And it's a case of I've got to do what's right for me. And I became aware like there were times times and I shouldn't diss my label because my label back in the day, they're not saying that were amazing. And I know there was a pressure that you're not almost allowed to be sick.

And I always said to them, well, if I was a runner, you wouldn't ask me to go and run a race. So why do you want me to go and sing? Yeah. And I used to do that. And sometimes I still be ill and try and sing. You're obsessed with running, Gabrielle. You've got to get running out of your head. I know. Exactly. And I'm like, you and try and see. You're obsessed with running Gabrielle. You've got to get running out of your head. I know, exactly. And you wouldn't ask them. And I guess the pressure is back in the time. And I suppose

nothing's really changed. But now the platforms of which you're an artist, that if you're not doing this, that you can, you know, be at home and speak to your fans or, you know, people do like little things at home, you know what I mean? And so it's changed. But in my day, it was a case of I need to do this for me. I don't care who's saying, oh, you need to do this. I would do as much as I was meant to do. But the moment I felt, you know what, now I'm not going to rush a new album out. And also as a writer, sometimes I felt I couldn't write. I felt like I hadn't lived it yet. You know what I mean? And I wasn't going to be one of those singers. And there's amazing artists out there who don't write their own stuff

Yeah, but when I'm talking about my songs when you say Gabrielle now what inspired that song? You better believe that something that happened to me. I'm gonna be bored out of my talking about an experience Why somebody else wrote a song? I'm happy to sing a couple of covers I've been known for it But it's all about my life and if I can't write because I haven't lived it or I haven't felt it then no can do So I just ended up doing things that please me. The priority was my kids. It still is but now like, you know, like number one is back into the forefront is my music. They don't put me first anymore. No, they're ever forever first. You know what I mean? But it's one of those things where,

like you said, at the time, you know, being a woman, I just had to do what was right for me and I had to suffer the consequences. And I think one of the consequences was that every time I came back with new material, it was like being a brand new artist again. And I think that was quite frustrating for the label. Hence why, you know, I just had to be in control. How did you get to that point though?

Was that learnt behaviour? Have you always been like that? Was it your upbringing? Was it, you know, life experience before you got into the music industry? Because everyone knows you've got to be stubborn, you've got to know your worth, you've got to say, I don't want to do that, I want to do this. How do you actually put that into practice? Where did that come from? I grew up with three brothers. I'm the eldest of three.

And I'm, you know, like, for example, growing up with three boys, you never fought like a girl. You know what I mean? I mean, physically fought, not that I'm promoting physically. So you can have a tear up. Yeah, you know what I mean? I mean, physically fought, not that I'm promoting physically. So you can have a tear up. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, back in it, definitely. Now I'm trying to sumo wrestle side, so I can just have you, I can just blow you,

if I drop you, that's it. You're not moving. Anyway, the basic thing is growing up, yeah, my mom was a strong mom. She had me when she was 17, but she was like that mother lioness, you know what I mean? So that was the thing. And so just speak in your mind. She had me when she was 17, which she was like that mother lioness, you know what I mean?

So that was the thing. And so just speak in your mind and growing up having a lazy eyelid, I had to be strong because there's always someone trying to pick on you, although sticks and stones didn't break my bones. But if you push me or tried it, then we're going to have it. You know what I mean? Basically, I can't believe I'm revealing this. No, it's true.

But you know, because like I said, it's true. And as a girl, as someone with a lazy eyelid, I wasn't, there was no one else who looked like me. And half the time I walk around looking like I was half asleep. So, but I was very awake because I knew what we thought and who was who. And I think that when you grew up with so many different things going on in your life, when I got to a certain age, when people are having boyfriends, I was too scared to speak to some guys

because, oh, just people in general, you know how we're speaking now. For example, the eye patch empowered me because prior to me having an eye patch, if I was, even if you're my friend, I would look around the room, but not make eye contact with you because I'd not make eye contact with you

because then we'd need to notice my eye, lazy eyelid. I didn't have the money for sunglasses in those days. You know what I mean? So you could see everything, what's in all, you can see all. So I think dealing with all that, and then by the time I got into the industry, I came in wearing an eye patch. I mean, it was something that was proposed, but for me, that was the best liberation I could have.

It liberated me thoroughly because of the fact that it was discussed. Well, you've got lazy eyelid, but you're not going to, you know, for me, going around showing my lazy eyes, like, well, can I have no niggas? I just wouldn't do it. You know what I mean? And if you're a guy, I know there've been guys with lazy eye, there's a few Americans

and there's a British guy, is that guy from Radiohead has slightly, I can't remember. Yeah, he does, yeah, yeah. Just a slightly. Well, Ramesh does as well. Right, I never really noticed it so much on him. Maybe I need to look at him more. But I think if you're a guy... Turn on the TV, your manager. I'll tell you that.

But if you look, you know, but guys never had the same restrictions. You can be overweight, you can be this, you can be a girl, you're a bit weighty. And if you're a comedian, you can make a joke or you can address it. But if you're a female singer in the 90s... Exactly. Precisely. I remember reading a headline where they said I was like one of the fattest and I wasn't even that fat. Now I'm like that good six-stone everything I was back then. You know, I'm not even joking. So I'm like, wow, you know, women had it hard.

So having all those things and having to deal with it, like I said, by the time I first saw the scene with an eyepatch, I felt really empowered because I could do my interviews. I didn't look like when everyone was like, you can't wear sunglasses, that make you look like you're an upstart. Who do you think you're on? You're a new artist and you barely add stuff out. So the eye patch was great because I could hold your gaze. I could have a conversation and feel completely comfortable in my own skin. And that's what having the eye patch did. So I think by having that bit of empowerment over time, I was like, actually, you know, I'm doing interviews. They're talking about how's this music come about? You know, how is Gabrielle's music born? Basically, I'm the singer songwriter and I have great producers who do the music, but I've always

been a writer. And then it started to make me think, you know, I'm all right. Not the best thing in the world, I wish it was, but I do my own thing. And I think the more you do it and the more you become comfortable in your own skin and realize your work. And it took me a long time. And I still question things. I don't go out and think, oh yeah, I'm Gab, I'm all this. No, insecure as hell when I'm ready. But then I have to kind of be rational and be like, you know what, you know, you're okay, you're doing good. You're still here. And people come to see you. And, you know, I wouldn't have it any other way. I'm a mum, I'm a grandma but first and foremost I was this musician, this singer-songwriter and I love that

I get to return to this. I feel I've never been away even though there was an 11 year hiatus but it's always been in me and now I just get to be me and you know and it means just speaking your truth. If you're not happy with something speak up. I say that to everyone. Don't hold it in because that can cause a lot of troubles. I've done that before. It doesn't work. You have to be upfront. So this is how I got to the point where I'm doing what I love doing. Here I've said all these things. I've managed to not put music out, even though the record companies were frustrated, but I had to live my life in the way that would suit me and do me the least amount of harm. And if it means all right, you know what I mean? That's all I can say. I think it's really inspiring to be honest. It's really impressive.

Yes, incredible story. When you've got kids and stuff, are you trying to pass that? Obviously, it's there for them to see. But how much are you thinking this is what I want to pass on as my kind of attitude to life and stuff? Do you feel like you have passed on to your kids? I mean, I don't know if I've done that because my kids say, Mum, you used to money cuddle us and made us scared. And so although I was confident, but I came on my babies and so my son last couple of years, I'm like, you never wanted us to grow up.

True. But now that they are, he's got his own kid, I'm like, don't ever have kids. Live your life to the fullest until you can. Although when I got pregnant, it was never by accident. It was me trying to get too much information, I know. I wanted to be a mum. How old was she when you had a baby? I was 25 when he was born and I'll be 26 like three months

later. So the fact that he had his baby last year when he was 28, I'm like, OK, you're officially like two years old and mobile. Because 25 is quite early in the music industry, but it's quite late if you're from south or east London. Do you know what I mean? Like, my mum had me at 17 exactly. So I remember I had to watch my piece in queues

because I've got friends who had babies in the 30s. And I have to say now, like, OK, the 30s and the 40s are like, it's like the new whatever it was. But for me, I'd look at everyone and think, oh my God, you're old. You're terrible. But I've got to blame my was. But for me, I'd look at it and think, oh my God, you're old. Terrible. But I've got to blame my mother. She had me at 17. She had her last kid at 23.

So like you said, the East End, they were turning them out, right? My cousins were pumping them out at 18, all of them. Couldn't move for them. My man thought I was gay. You were one of the first in comedy, Rob. Like you were considered young in comedy to have a kid. Oh wow. But old in-

I was 29. You were 29, which is quite young in the comedy world, I'd say to have a kid. But I was 10 years later than all my cousins. Well, there you go. Perfectly sums up how you don't fit in anywhere. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Just float around in my own little world.

You're allowed, you're allowed. We created this world for ourselves, right? Gabrielle, how do you feel like society and the music industry has changed now? So if a 25 year old, 22 year old, Gabrielle was coming through in 2024, would you still go for eye patch or your hair, or would you sort of show both eyes,

or would you do it in a different way or the same? Eye patch every time, baby. I'd have to tell you the eye patch. It was like a calling card. It took... It was like you said, singer, eye patch. Everyone would know you're talking about. Yeah, precisely.

Listen, I get sent the videos where there's been a show. There's like a famous one where they're like, and who did this? Bradley Walsh, I think, who presents the show? And like one of the shows where they talk about like, oh, who did this? And who, you know, and I'm like, oh, who did this? And I'm like, there's many questions and it's always, you know, Gabrielle, the eyepatch, you know, I love that. And for me, like I said, I wouldn't change a thing. I loved it. I felt empowered. It looked amazing. And also like it takes some kind of bird to be done with an eyepatch because, you know,

most people wouldn't, they'd probably go with the sunglasses because you wouldn't have to answer the questions. I didn't mind. I had nothing to hide in a sense of no problem talking about my lazy eyelid doesn't mean I want you to see it you know what I mean. Now I think if there's another person coming out and they're like what do you think I should wear and I'm like whatever makes you feel comfortable if you've got a lazy eyelid or whatever it is do you do the thing that's going to bring you the joy? You know what I mean? And so in my case, it was the eye patch again. I wouldn't change a thing. I only wore it for a year

and I'm thinking of coming back with it. My son's like, mom, you need to be bringing that eye patch again. So you know, you know what I mean? I think you should, it'd be great. Exactly, but yeah, I've been wearing my hair over my eyes for a long time and I love that. And I used to wear sunglasses, but I remember being out

and these guys, it was kind of raining. It wasn't dark glassy, but it's slightly tinted. And these guys are like, no, it's raining. I'm like, what? You know what I mean? Like it's nothing to do with you. But now, you know what I mean? I'm just, yeah, I wrote what you're gonna say now.

I'm supposed to show both my eyes if I don't want to. So no, I just do me. But I think that in today's time, where just do yourself, you know what I mean? Just stay true to yourself. Don't sign anything unless you've got a lawyer. People are always gonna be trying it. They did back then

and they're gonna forever keep trying it. And yeah, just be as true to yourself as you can be and just have fun. So you're a singer-songwriter. You write your own songs and they have to be about you and from have fun. So you're a singer-songwriter, you write your own songs and they have to be about you and from the heart. You couldn't take someone else's

life stories. When is the Screwfix Megamix coming out? That's got to come. We need to all be on this one. Yeah. We need to clear the air on this. So your son,

Yeah. He heard us talk about you going to Screwfix on this podcast and passed it on to you. Precisely. He was like, mum, everyone's sending me this podcast thing. He was like, everyone's saying, have you heard this? I thought this is great. And I so love the fact that, you know, it's a truth. What he said was true. When I went in there and they're trying to get you to sign up and I'm like no I'm not having some stalker person

have access to your information right yeah and I say that because I'm not saying that people screws with us but you don't know yeah you don't know also if you're buying a screwdriver you don't have to give someone your fucking home address precisely you just you pay for it and you go anyway so I never did but the fact that they were saying to you oh oh, Gabrielle comes in, like you said, where's your anonymity? You know you've been troubled, that's what I never do. I love that. Last time you buy an eye patch at Screwfix

and then you never buy an eye patch from there again. I went in for it and they'd sold out. Yeah. That's how you... What are the chances? When I first moved house and then the delivery driver came, he went, oh, you're that bloke off the telly, yeah? Don't worry, I won't tell anyone you live around here.

And then he went, do you know that David A, Gabrielle Rioferna live around here? I was like, well, hang on, you've told me about it all. So. Precisely, exactly. But when I went to Screwfix, I wouldn't take my name and address. And then he said, oh, Gabrielle comes in here.

She went, yeah, she won't give us her address either. I was like, well, I can see why. You're just dishing it out left, right and centre in there. I love the fact that your story's out there. And now I don't look like, I just thought too highly of myself. No, you don't need to give someone your own address to buy. Gabrielle, you're in Screwfix. No one's going to tell you what.

She's out of touch with the modern person. What are you doing in there, Gabrielle? That's what we want to know. What are you buying from Screwfix? I could say I was buying a McAlpine bath trap. Do you know what that is? No. What's that?

I asked my flub, it's like, you say you're buying a McAlpine bath trap, like a trap. Like, I think it's one of the Ben things. I could be completely wrong. But I was going there for lots of different things. I've got building work going on as we speak. So, and I was going in there a lot until I got really busy. But listen, I usually walk around with like my bucket hats. I love bucket hats. I've got so much in common, Gabrielle. We were separated.

You're the same person. I was about to tell you that. You know what I mean? My brother from another mother. You know what I mean? 100%. So yeah, people still know it's you. I think it blew up slightly though, because it was a funny story between us and then the next day a lot of the people that listened to this commute obviously and you were singing a song in Waterloo station. So we got under siege by so many people. People were walking along listening to us discussing it and then there you were singing in Waterloo station.

Especially because you've had hiatus as well, you know, you haven't been around us like so out of nowhere. We're talking about you from Screevix and you're in Waterloo Station. I remember that, that was in January. It was fun because it was like, like you said, no one would expect it. I think a lot of people doing stuff like pop-up stuff. Yeah. It just kind of fell at the right time. And you know, I've got a new album coming out this week. So I'm just like, you know, every bit of like, how do I say it? Advertising is good advertising for me.

And I only do things when I need to. Otherwise you don't see or hear from me. You know what I mean? I live my life constantly like that. And that's how I love it. What's the best way for people to get your album now? Did you want them to stream it on Spotify? Do you want them to buy the vinyl online? Oh, yes. What's best for you?

Right. What's best for me? I've got an idea, Gabriel. Why don't we do a market still pop-up outside Screwfix Elm's End. I'll come down with you. Madness did it at Camden and I'll stand there. That sounds fun. Yeah and they got to number one because if you sell a certain amount of vinyl you can get to number one quite easily. That's what they say now is that like... That's incredible. Idols did it I think where they do like you do a few in-store things and the sales of physical is so low now. It's not like 1993 when Dreams debuted making you the number one debut artist female solo in the UK for the first time. Can I just change that info? I went straight in at number two.

Oh, what? Yeah, all right. I didn't want to take it away from you. Oh, nothing. Oh, you're not the superstar I thought. No wonder you're in Screwfix. No, no, no, but listen, listen. The highest ever debut artist with a debut song

going straight in at number two. That had never happened since The Charts had begun. And then I went to number one. So historically, it's still a thing. Let him just pump that lie out, it sounds better. Don't correct him again. Oh, I'm terrible, aren't I? Maybe, oh, no, just a minute pause.

No, no, Josh has got it wrong. Yeah, I have. It is a historical thing, but I mean, people can stream my album, they can buy it. I've actually got a vinyl as well, and it's beautiful. It's like a blue vinyl to match the album, you know. And yeah, I don't mind. Any which way you want my music, you should have it. I've actually got vinyl as well, it's beautiful, it's like a blue vinyl to match the album, you know. And yeah, I don't mind. Any which way you want my music, you should have it. You know what I mean? As long as I'm getting paid. Can we talk about your gig on Plymouth Ho with Tom Jones and Sophie Ellis-Baxter? What's

Tom Jones like? Do you know what? I've never met him and I've always seen him on the telly. Yeah. So it's going to be really exciting but I get to open up before him. I say open up but I don't know whether it's going to be me, then Sophie Ellis and then Sir Tom Jones. Stone Foundation. Well there you go. All the other artists that we meet. Well yeah because we thought Tunde from Lighthouse Family would be there but he's just doing your support, isn't he? What do you mean just support? He's incredible.

No, no, no. I'm just saying he's not going to be at Plymouth Ho with you. No, he's going to be at the Arena Tours next year, isn't he? The Arena Tours, yeah, no, he's great. We love to, don't they? Listen, I think they're going to have to get security because I'm supposed to be... He's going to be performing, then I'm supposed to go on afterwards. But I'll literally be like one of the screaming minions who will be like, oh my God, I love him, his voice and his songs.

I'm going to have to come with my mum and dad to the London Dates. Please, come, come, let's know when you want to come. 18th of April, 2025 boys and the sons. I'm gonna have to come with my mum and dad to the London Dates. Please, come, come, let us know when you wanna come. 18th of April, 2025. He's 80, fingers crossed he makes it. Oh, he's gonna make it all right. He's incredible and he just gets better with age, doesn't he? I'm really looking forward to doing it. What, my dad?

Or Tunde. I wasn't talking about Tunde, I was talking about- Oh, you know, for that reason. No, I was talking about my dad. Is Tunde 80? No, she was talking about Tom Jones. I thought you were talking about Tom Jones. What a confusion.

I know. And I was thinking Rob's made a mistake here. Tom Jones isn't doing the London date. I never thought Sir Tom Jones, Tunday for Lighthouse family, David Beckett would ever get confused in a conversation with Gabrielle. Oh my God.

It looks like it's happened. It has. But it's all fun though, it's all fun. It's all fun, oh brilliant. And being a gran, because obviously you can approach grandparenting in two ways. You can go, I'm available.

I'm the babysitter. I'm here for you. Or you can go, I've done this. I'll offer a bit of advice from the sidelines. Where are you on that scale? Right, tour as much as possible. No wonder you got a new album out. No, he came over yesterday and the good thing about just living within like a stone's throw for me kids

is that they will come over. Even though I might plan my day, my son's like, I'm just coming, I'm like, yeah, little bubba in tow and he's in everything now. So I've had to get all this new stuff for him. He's obsessed with sand. And I'm like, okay, it'd be good to have some inside. I've got the conservatory where he can be in, but it's filled with like I said, I've got workmen in this. I'm like, I'm not opening this in the kitchen because my son, when we were in the garden a few days ago, my son, my grandson, he takes anything because he likes the texture. He's one and you're trying to build things for him like little sandcastles. I know he wants to put his hand through it, but he loves just taking the sand and throwing it anywhere.

So he'll pretend like he'll think that you don't know that he's got his hand. I'm like, but anyway, the bottom line, it's fun. You know, he wants to play, kick the ball. He just wants to do all these amazing things. And it's great, but I love at the end of the day, just give him back. Have you had him overnight yet at all?

Semi overnight, because I was having him while my son and his girlfriend went out and I my son came in like I'll get him up to go to sleep and then he woke up a few hours later And I thought he's gonna scream the house down if he just sees nanny Lulu cuz I'm Nally Lulu Oh, but he didn't he just looked at me and then in the morning So my son needs go if they stayed over and then in the morning He brought him into my room and just left him with many. It was fine. He was fine.

So I haven't done the proper, I don't, I'm gearing myself up. I told them, don't bring him to me before he's one. You know what I mean? But now, but now, no, they did. But now he's amazing now. So I have him anytime, but I haven't done the proper, just me and him for a few days.

Yeah. Nappies do the nappies. I do the nappies. I actually, I don't mind the nappies I do the nappies yeah I did practice for Tom Jones as well no nappies are cool what about you did you do the nappies yeah we did the nappies still do the nappies I've got a three-year-old still doing the nappies three-year-olds so how many do you have I've got a six and a three and Rob you've got a six and an eight haven't you oh wonderful okay well that's amazing yes so we're done with nappies now. Okay, fantastic.

You must be potty training soon, Josh, no? Yeah, we're in the kind of gray area I'd describe it as. You know, the kind of... Well, it was a brown area all over the floor. We've just done the dummy, so we're just giving ourselves a bit of a break. Yeah, you can't go dummy and arse. Yeah.

One life-ruining event at a time. Thank you very much. No, it's a nice thing just watching them go through the ages. It's when they start talking back to you, you're all in trouble. Yeah, that's what I'm struggling with at the moment. There's a lot of attitude from my eight year old because she's getting to that stage where she's like think she's the king of the world because she's getting older at primary school.

Oh, big fish in a small pond kind of like well now actually and they remember everything. So I was like, no, but you actually said that. And I'm like, yeah, maybe I did, but I didn't mean it. You find yourself arguing like children. I hear that. I hear that. Oh my gosh. Good luck, guys. Have you passed on your musical genes? You know something in terms of musicality, my daughter, I say that she's 21. She has the most vast musical knowledge more than my son and myself put together. And you know that you were number two rather than number one with dreams. No facts like that.

I'm really weird. Sometimes they call me Rain Man because there's certain things I remember that I probably shouldn't, don't ever tell me something that you don't ever want me to remember because I'm a stickler for that. Not even deliberately, I'd be like, remember when this happened.

But in terms of musical genes, they've all got music in them. Even, I would say musically, like my son's in the music industry, my daughter, she's kind of ventured in and out of it, but now she's changed direction. But I think it's in all of us. Yeah, and my little grandson, I reckon him too.

And do you enjoy singing to your grandson, sing him to sleep and- No. No. No, no, no. Not yet. That hasn't happened yet. I know he's seen me on, when I did Radio 2 recently and my son sent me a video of him

holding my grandson and my grandson's looking thinking, I wonder if she's in the telly. Obviously he's wondering. He must be thinking like, where is she? You know what I mean? That's kind of weird. So he gets now, it's a bit strange, well I think he gets it, but he's only one, right? So I don't know really what he truly gets, but I think he gets it but he's only one right, so I don't know really what he truly gets but I think he knew it was me on the telly but I know musically that they've all got it in them. Both my parents are not really musical although my mother used

to play a lot of music but you know what the bottom line is, it's in them, it will find its way eventually in some way shape or form. Oh the camera's been absolutely brilliant. Yeah, it's been a joy to talk to you. Pleasure's all mine. Good luck with the tour. Is there anything else you want to promote? Shall I just run through your, I'm gonna run through your dates. Yes, please, I love you.

Borgna Regis, the mighty hoopla, you've done that. Yes. You're doing a summer of festivals, which is Dublin Rewind, Cambridge, Cambridge Club, with Shaka Khan, blimey. Yes. What a bill that is. Plymouth with Tom Jones.

Thetford with Tom Jones. Chepstow with Tom Jones. Oh don't do them one she's on a rate for that she's not getting a cut at all. Oh yeah you don't care about those ones. She's already been paid for them. Alright let's cut to next year. Cut to the top. Let's cut to next year this is the big one.

Oh my god yeah huge one for me. April the 2nd you kick off at the Glasgow Armadillo. Yes. April the 4th, Newcastle upon Tyne, City Hall, Birmingham Resorts World Arena, 5th of April, then you're in Hull, which is almost sold out already. Oh wow. So you've got a nice combo.

You've got these big arena rooms, also these beautiful big theatres. So you've got the Sheffield City. Sheffield City Hall's nice. Utilitar Arena Cardiff, Manchester A.O. These are all April Hall's nice. Utilitar Arena, Cardiff, Manchester, AO, these are all April time around Easter. Two nights at Manchester Arena. Oh no, one night, one's hospitality passages. Sorry.

Manchester Arena, Brighton Centre, that'd be a good gig. London 02 on Good Friday over the Easter weekend, and then Bournemouth, and then Glasgow. Wow, what a tour. It's gonna be amazing. Thank you guys, I love that you've given it a plug like that. Now it'd be great if you could get parents with their kids coming to listen, you know.

That's what I love, Sabi, watching my P's and Q's. Just a few flips. And you know, singing my... I'll leave that to you. And you know, just about... Get the f*** out. You know what I mean? Or wear it backwards.

Just having fun. You're killing me, guys. I having fun. You're killing me guys. I'm naughty, yous are naughtier than me. You're allowed to be. You know what I mean? I love it. And just the fact, because I'm going to be going on the road promoting my album which is out May the 10th, which is a couple of days.

I don't know when this comes out. It's out today. It's out today. Oh wow. Good timing. Oh there it is. Oh look at that. There we go. That's a great picture. It is great, isn't it? A place in your heart. Yeah, a place in your heart. And yeah, I'm going to be singing songs from that album for the tour next year, as well as giving you all the classics. So

people got to come along and have a bit of a shake and a boogie with me. I tell you what, my mum listens to this and I can tell you exactly what's going to happen this episode will finish and she'll go, Dave, they were talking about you on the podcast, do you know Gabrielle? She's got a new album out and then she'll go, Spotify, play Gabrielle. Amazing, amazing, I need to be seeing you guys at my shows. A place in your heart, the new one, now. No, not dreams, the new one, a place in your heart. Dave, come fix it.

Amazing, listen, I'm gonna see you guys in the flesh at one of those shows, please come. The 02 on Good Friday. Definitely, please come. Where can I say hello, you know? Defo, it's in the diary. Fantastic, but thank you, lovelies. Brilliant, cheers, Gabriel, good luck with it all.

I've had so much fun, I feel I'm sweating now. Oh, thank you. Well, see you down screw fix. See you later, my darling. I'll meet you there. All right. Bye. Bye, guys. You guys have been amazing.

Thank you. Gabrielle. Gabrielle, I love that one. Yeah, that's going to be great. Michael, I'm not going to tell you how to do your job, but what you want to do is just clip up for Instagram the question of screw fix and then dot dot dot, driving people to the podcast

so they finally get the story of Gabrielle. Josh Whitaker, Media Mogul. Call me Stephen Bartlett. Call me Gary Lineker. Call me Jake Humphreys. I know what the people want. Call me Joe Rogan. Exactly. Is me Jake Humphreys. I know what the people want. Call me Joe Rogan. Exactly.

Is it Jake Humphrey? Doesn't matter. I don't think he'll ever be free with the way he approaches life. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Best thing you've ever said. He's trapped in a well of success. Now, genuinely though, I thought that was quite,

I don't think Gabrielle has been appreciated in her time what she did. Imagine being like basically at that age, having that album, with having, you know, very self-conscious about her eye, then having a baby, then continuing to write massive songs and albums, and then choosing to take a hiatus so you could bring up your kids, and then come back and do arena tours

and be picked out by the biggest artists in the world to do the support, that's unbelievable. What a career, what a way to do it. Incredible. I think she's a piece of our culture, do you know what I mean? She is, because I don't think there was a huge amount of, as you said, kind of solo artists, women of colour, coming from working class backgrounds. Calling the shots. Who were, you know, yeah, in such control of the awful people within the music industry. Yeah, and do you know what?

Even with all that success and being good mates with Adele and probably earning really well, you still have to go down fucking screw fix. Rob, there's only two things that are certain in life, death and screw fix. Death and fucking shit jobs you have to get done before you can chill out. To-do lists, the scourge on humanity, but if you don't do them, your fucking bath won't drain. Anyway, she's on tour, see you on Tuesday.

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