Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S8 EP52: Nick Mohammed

Episode Date: July 5, 2024

Joining us this episode to discuss the highs and lows of parenting (and life) is the brilliant actor and comedian - Nick Mohammed. Nick has portrayed his character Mr. Swallow across both stage and television for over a decade. He is also the creator of the Sky One comedy series Intelligence. Mohammed portrayed the character of Nathan Shelley in the Apple TV+ series Ted Lasso, for which he was nominated in the Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series category at the 73rd and 74th Primetime Emmy Awards. Douglas is Cancelled, a four-part comedy drama centered around cancel culture from Primetime Emmy and BAFTA award-winning screenwriter Steven Moffat, starring Hugh Bonneville, Karen Gillan, Ben Miles, Alex Kingston, Nick Mohammed and Simon Russell-Beale.  The drama is set to air late June on ITV1 and ITVX.  Parenting Hell is a Spotify Podcast, available everywhere every Tuesday and Friday. Please leave a rating and review you filthy street dogs... xxx If you want to get in touch with the show here's how: EMAIL: [e-mail] INSTAGRAM: @parentinghell MAILING LIST: parentinghellpodcast.mailchimpsites.com  A 'Keep It Light Media' Production  Sales, advertising, and general enquiries: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Darcy, can you say Rob Beckett? Rob Beckett. Well done. And can you say Josh Widicombe? Josh Widicombe. Not quite, but okay. That was lovely. That was in the bath, I think, that one, wasn't it, Josh? Doesn't say. It says, this is my 21-month-old Darcy attempting your names. Sorry, Josh, but she hasn't quite mastered Whiddicam.

On listening back, I feel my lack of praise at the end may lead some self-reflection on my parenting style. No, I didn't think it was too bad. No, I didn't have an issue with that, no. No. Thanks for providing me with reassurance I need that in fact parenting is... Are you just trying to get a burp out? No, I managed it. Providing me?

You did it in providing. You went providing me because you were burped. Sorry, sorry. It's alright, it's alright. Thanks for providing me with the reassurance I need... If you came to the live show you'd know know that you don't fart you just burp I just love a burp never farted No, I do occasionally that in fact parenting is bloody hard work and between the demands of we two bicks at 3 in the morning

Oh, that is tough The constant fight to get addressed and the tantrums because we had to leave the trolley at Tesco There's some days a poo in the bath is probably as good as it's gonna get Get that made into a t-shirt. Why are we eat a bit at 3 a.m. yeah who's having that hug she's tired mum or she's getting up early the day or is the kid waking up and demanding we have it oh a bit tired maybe tired to think about it what's your favorite breakfast cereal Rob? Do you know what I don't really eat it that much because it's my favorite is like crunching up cornflakes

But it's like having dessert. Exactly it's mad. It's so bad. Ricycles for breakfast. What was I thinking for all those years? Oh clusters. I love a cluster. I love nuts and sugar. I love sugary nuts. Oh, oh I don't mind the old yogurt covered raisin either to be honest. Do you like a yogurt covered raisin? I love a little yogurt covered raisin. I used to think they were healthy, but it's bad for you really. It's a lot of sugar Yes, a lot of sugar. It's not good yogurt is it that? Nature's sugar cube the grape Yeah, people always slag off grapes don't they? Like there's so much sugar I'm like leave it out mate, it ain't skittles Give me a break. Come on. It's gotta be. Are grapes good for you? Should I Google that much sugar I'm like leave it out mate, it ain't skittles, give me a break.

Come on, it's gotta be. Are grapes good for you, should I Google that? No, fuck it. Yeah, Google that and I'll ask you a question while you're Googling it. Okay. What's your favourite breakfast cereal? Obviously apart from porridge. Do you know what?

As a kid I loved a Rice Sickle but now I would find that fucking banana. It's a Rice Krispie but covered in the stuff Frosty's are covered in. In lockdown I got in a real funk of just scooping in a spoonful of Nutella into my cereal, whatever it was with milk. Did you? And it was not good. Oh, Riceicles, yeah I know it. I know them.

Look at these crisps I got yesterday, Rob. What are they? I took a photo to put on Instagram. Yeah. Busy day? It's hugely busy. Busy day of content, was it for you? Well, it was, that's why I've held it back for today Rob.

I just don't think you can get away with this for a copyright point of view. Monster claws and they are near enough exactly the same shape as Monster Munch. They're purple, packet pickled onion flavour, picture of basically the same monster. So how's that allowed? And they're called monster claws. I don't know. And look at the other one I got. And it's all the same kind of snack right with an R. I spelled that wrong.

Look at these ones. Tiles for squares. No. They're fucking mental, isn't it? Tiles is a piss take, isn't it? Unbelievable. So Monster Claws and tile. Who wants to eat a tile?

I'll eat a square. Yeah, you've gotta come up with a better replacement for squares and tiles, haven't you? Snide crisps. Yeah, you've gotta stick that up on the better replacement for squares and tiles, haven't you? Snide crisps. Yeah, you've got to stick that up on the Instagram. Yeah, I'll put that on my Instagram. Look at that. The red on that, per bag, 4.9 grams of fat. I look at that now. How's your fitness going, Josh?

I'm enjoying it a lot, Rob. What are you enjoying about exercise or eating healthy? I much prefer running to doing the gym. What, the weights? You don't like the weights? My problem with the weights is I just end up checking my phone too much. What, like because there's downtime in between? Yeah. I'm not very good at resting between each set.

All right, Arnold Schwarzenegger. No, but like I want to get it over and done with, but then I actually can't do the next set properly because I'm still tied from the first set. What I need to do is write down what I'm going to do and then go in without my phone. the next set properly because I'm still tied from the first set. What I need to do is write down what I'm going to do. Yeah. And then go in without my phone. Because at the moment, you're putting it into an app, aren't you, on the phone

of what you're doing, because we've got the same trainer guy. Yeah. We're both having midlife crisis. No, I don't think educate yourself on nutrition and try and exercise the midlife crisis. Yeah. I tell you, what is a midlife crisis? The vest I bought for holiday. I haven't bought a vest have you not but the problem even if I got nice arms through doing like bicep curls they're all hairy like an old dad they're called hairy dad arms I'm just getting a call from Ewan Shaw can I just tell them I'll call them back in a minute Ewan Shaw hey could you call me back in about 15

minutes stick him on speaker what does he want to know? Alright, cheers, bye. Who's Ewan? No, you insure. Oh! It's my house insurance. I've got to renew my house insurance but I've got to pay it over the phone. Oh, do you feel like you've been scammed? Yes. I feel like I've been scammed all the time. It bounces when I pay it online and they were like well we can just do it over the phone. And I was like, oh, here we fucking go. Oh, here we go, trousers and pants down, say what you want.

You'll be in a Daily Mail headline. You want me to just read my fucking card numbers down the phone? Well, I'll tell you what, I'm gonna bloody do it. That's what I'm gonna do. Yeah, well, there's no other way to do it. I'll drive down, mate. No, you can't, all right.

Yeah, no, I get stressed about that all the time, to be honest. How is your to-do list? You were quite stressed last week. Yeah, my to-do list is quite small. Now, that's good. Well done. I'm very excited about this guest. Yeah, Nick Mohamed. Big fan of Nick Mohamed. Do you know what I love about him? Great guy.

He's a lovely person. One of the nicest people we meet. Super talented. Incredible actor, incredible comedian. Mr Swallow, great stage show, obviously, in Ted Lasso. In his show, Intelligence, he's written, he's got new stuff coming out, he's in The Martian with Matt Damon, this guy's Hollywood. And he's on our show and he's got three kids

and I've been asking him to do this for three years. We have quite a weird text exchange, me and Nick Mohammed, where basically every year he asked me to do his charity gig. Oh yeah, I've done that. And every year I'm busy, and I genuinely am, I'm not trying to get out of it. And then I say, we should get you on the pod.

He goes, that'd be great. What's your email? Nothing happens. Another year goes past. Rob, can you do my charity gig? Oh, sorry, I can't Nick, I'm on tour then. I should really get you the pod. What's your email?

He sends me the email. But finally we have made it happen. This all started 11th of September 2022. And do you know how we've got him on the pod? How? Well, I think neither of you managed to do it yourselves, but his PR got in touch with Michael because he's on promo. Okay, well that didn't work, did it? And I still have that his charity gig.

Bloomsbury Theatre every year. There we go. Nick, give me the dates. I forgot to ask him about it, but Nick, Becca will be listening. Becca, Nick's wife, we talk about Becca quite a lot in the episode. Please tell Nick to message me with the date for the next one. I promise to do it.

Namaste. Oh, here's Nick Mohammed. Nick Mohammed, welcome to the show. We've wanted this a long time, Nick. We have wanted it a long time. I think it was a cast discount down where we said that we should do this. So yeah, and thank you for having me.

And I have to say, first off, my wife, Becca, is a huge, huge fan of the show. Oh, hello, Becca. Really like got her through lockdown. Yeah, hello, Becca. And so yeah, big shout out to her. She's upstairs with them, but yeah. And has she given you any kind of steers on what to do?

She said the thing is everyone on it is really funny, so I think you're gonna... She was like, no, everyone's prepared. It sounds like really awesome. The cast is brilliant. So I am a little bit nervous. Oh no, we've had some real dog shit on here, Nick. Don't worry. Don't worry. Okay, good. Good. Well, I look forward to whatever comes. She's a huge fan of the show. As a mother. Oh well, shout out to Becca.

But I got to it later, but yeah, huge shout out. You don't have to pretend that you listen, Nick, because we know you don't. I don't think any comedians should listen. No, I've only listened to it in the car, but I'll be honest, it was because Becca was there. So how many kids have you and Becca got, Nick? Set the scene. We've got three. We've got three. So we've got the two boys, Finn and Arthur, who are eight and six.

And then Annie is one. So we did a proper kind of manual reset. Because she loved the pod so much. Is that what you call sex? A manual reset? Manual reset, yeah. Becca fancy a manual reset? Because I've got a six and eight year old and then, yeah, having a one year old on top of that I think would be hard. Have you both got two? Yeah. Josh's are a bit younger, so six and two or three?

So I could still do a manual reset. Yesterday, I was woken by the cat at 5.15 in the morning and I didn't get back to sleep. Right. by the cat at 5.15 in the morning and I didn't get back to sleep. And I was exhausted all day and I was like, fuck, this is how I used to live all the time. And I was like, I can't imagine this now. So how was it to go back? It's so difficult to know objectively whether it's just because Annie is, and you know, Finn and Arthur are such a delight, but you know, Annie as a baby is such a delight. Not that it makes it easy, but she is a delight. Or whether it's just that we're more used to it because we've already had two kids. But the fact that I feel like going from one to two is a hundred percent different.

Yeah. But going two to three just didn't feel, I mean, even though it was literally, Arthur had just started school and Becca's like, I want a third. I don't know. Right. She didn't say it like that. No, no, no.

But like we were like, so we have a third, if we're gonna do it, we should probably do it now. So it was- Can I ask a bit of a personal question? How quickly after that conversation did you manually reset? When you said we've got to do it now, was it, up we go. Look, we have been very lucky. It was, you know, in terms of conceiving and stuff.

And we, you know, it was within 40 seconds. It was in a couple of months or so. We're really lucky. Yeah. Yeah. Becca's one of three and we'd always wanted three. And so we were like, that could go back to work and we were like, but if we are going to do it, she wants to do it before she was 40 and blah blah blah. So we were just like, oh, you know, well, why not? It can't be any more chaotic. Turns out it is a lot more chaotic, but not as chaotic as I think we'd anticipated.

But it is wonderful and we're so lucky and Annie is a dream. And what's great because Fynna and Arthur, even though it feels a bit like, oh, wow, we're really sort of starting from scratch again, because Fynnainaf of all, they were seven and five when Annie was born. Like they, they, I mean, they adore her so much. They entertain her. They help, you know, they have done so many kind of brilliant things to kind of make it a lot easier. So yeah, we're very fortunate in that regard.

Because they're a bit older, because obviously there's a kind of, it doesn't feel like she's treading on their turf as much or does it? Yeah, I know what you mean. I mean, Fidenartha, they share a room. I mean, they adore each other as well. They've got a very special bond because they're only 20 months apart in age, actually. So they're close in age and they've always shared a room. And, you know, they obviously did like those quite formative years in lockdown together as well. I mean, they have their moments when they really kind quite formative years in lockdown together as well. I mean, they have their moments when they really kind of argue, but they're quite a unit.

And only just recently now that Annie's sort of tottering around and sort of grabbing stuff, you know, if they're doing whatever Lego or a jigsaw, if Annie's in the room, we're suddenly like, oh, careful because Annie, you know, or if Annie grabs something, we just let her have it. And it's like, well, if she does want that, we can't really do anything about it. And that kind of infuriates them a little bit. Like, well, how are we meant to, you know, build the whatever? But, you know, broadly though, they just get on with it and they adore it. Because I've got two girls that are the same age gap, sort of like they're bang on two years

apart, but still close. But in lockdown, it was very much them two, because I've looked back at videos now and they were like, how old would they have been? They've been like three and five or yeah, but between two and a half and five and a half and just at the age where they're sort of big enough to properly play and get rough with each other and they were mental. It was like two wrestlers just in the garden for two years just rolling around and stuff and I don't know, maybe as years go on there will be sort of siblings maybe that have got a slightly closer bond because it was just them two for two years and no one else, you know. Completely. I mean, I think the whole, I mean, you know, like we'll learn about the after effects of COVID for years and years and years, like in terms of like what it's done to like things

like that, like special bonds between kids. So Fiddle and Arthur must have been, yeah, sort of four and two or five and three or whatever, you know, as we were going into lockdown. Yeah, sort of four and two or five and three or whatever, as we were going into lockdown. We had just moved, I've lived in London since 2005 or whatever, but now it is in London. And the big prefix to all this is personal problems and we're very, very lucky, but we had just then in 2019,

we just managed to afford to buy a place in London and it was a little flat. We were in Richmond, which is really nice, but it was a little flat. And were in Richmond, which is really nice, but it was a little flat and to a degree, it was 70 square meters and we had two very energetic boys. Oh my God. So our neighbors downstairs hated us with an absolute passion. We don't live there anymore now, so I'm quite happy to speak about it. But they were insane. Like they were, there were two sisters who ran like this sort of Christian clothing business from their home. Quite know what that means. That was what they did.

Huge business. I think by all accounts, what they did was they imported clothes and then sort of, not quite sort of so sort of crucifix it into them but like they sort of sort of jazzed them up a little bit and then sold them to Christians. It was very odd. But that genuinely I'm not it feels like I'm saying it was having a pop. That is just what their business model was. But anyway they were downstairs and they were like they were in like their 20s and you know their dad had bought them their flat which we knew. And like so you're automatically going, fuck them, let's play jumpy.

Literally, I'm not making this up. When we first moved in and there's like boxes everywhere, filling our four, you know, four and two or whatever, they like knocked on the door, they handed us the lease and they were like, Oh, just see, no, you've got a carpet in the kitchen. And we're like, we're not going to carpet the kitchen. Cause that's not going to work. That was our opening gambit. And then they proceeded to give Arthur, who was like literally two, an example of how he needed to walk in the house. And Arthur was just like, how?

What was the walk? Oh, it was sort of like this sort of tiptoe-y sort of, almost like you're on high heels, but really tiptoe-y sort of delicate walk that wouldn't affect their lives in any way. Like a kind of offensive mincing from the 80s, like a kind of... Oh, like, yes, the daintiest little walk across the room. And like, our mistake was, because we wanted,

like, we were also aware that, oh, okay, well, we don't want to sort of get on like that term. So we tried to do everything. We literally had the floor, like, taken up. We had, like, insulation, like, sound like proper, like, acoustic insulation, like, put in just... I know you would as well, you are one of the nicest people I've ever met, so you would be like, okay, fair enough, let's try. And who lived there before you? Well, the people who sold us the flat, they apparently, they used to own like both those flats. And so they actually sold the ground floor one to these two, I won't say the names,

and then they sold us the other one. And they didn't let on until they didn't tell us at all that this is probably going to be an issue because they hadn't had the flooring done and they were like in breach of their lease and such. So we were like, oh, crack it. And then of course we went into lockdown and then it was like, oh, Lordy, this is going to be really difficult. Did you have a garden or access to a garden? No, no, no, no garden. So, you know, again, we were so fortunate. We got, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Said you woke us from our afternoon nap But also the idea that they were Christians as well and that was like like part of their business like literally on the packaging of their Parcels they had like a quote from John chapter whatever about literally it wasn't quite love I know but but it was something of the ilk and it was like where's your forgiveness? Where is this famous forgiveness guys? They were absolutely sort of phenomenal characters. Can I ask a question about them? I know it's not about them. Yeah, no, it should be. Were the two sisters napping at the same time? Oh, I don't know. They told us so many insane things. I think they shared the beds, by the way.

And there's nothing wrong with that, but they weren't short on space because they could have had separate rooms. Because I went into their flat because they said, can you come in and we'll show you how loud it is. So I kind of got the kids jumping down whilst I was sort of in there. Oh, so awkward. They just had like a bed and they said they kept on moving the beds and trying to keep up with where the kids are. And I was like, well, don't do that. They're in one room and out within 30 seconds. By the time you've moved your bed. They're moving their beds to avoid where the kids are.

This is a two-year-old. It's not like 15-year-olds. You can't stop a two-year-old. They will run. No. And the other thing was that we were like, okay, obviously they're not at nursery. There's no childcare. We're trying to work from home as well. Becca's teaching. I was writing the second series of intelligence and stuff like we're doing our best, but we can't do anything else. We can't take them out. We can't kill. We can't get rid of them. Yeah, exactly. You can't tie them up. We are in this situation. And we've been forced to stay in by the government. Yeah, but we'll, but you know, we'll obviously outside of first thing in the

morning, we'll stop them from making noise. And obviously they get a bed at like seven and, you know, we're doing like wind down from like five o'clock. So it shouldn't be mad. So they're not up late. Yeah, yeah. And we weren't having like wild parties or anything like that. Even out of lockdown, we're just not those kinds of people.

So I don't know, that whole experience was, that was our kind of parenting how rid. Because we were like- How loud was it when you were in their house? When they took you down to test, were you like, this is what I expected or? Well, like, yeah, but I was just like, yeah, it's loud. But it's also like, it's not like loud for no reason. It's not like, oh,

no one can put sort of their sort of like finger on why it's loud. It's always loud because we've got Todd there. If you don't like it, don't live in a ground floor flat. That was it. They even had on the door, like the outer door to get into the communal bits and then we'd go up the stairs. They even had on the door, like the outer door to get into the communal bit. And then we'd go up the stairs. They even had written on the door, the outdoor, please close quietly. And quietly was a massive mess.

Oh my God. Fucking hell. And we didn't want to kind of impose it on the kids. We didn't want to say, oh, you can't make noise in your own flat, you're in your own bedroom, especially in lockdown. So as I say, the big thing, we're very lucky and we survived lockdown and we're lucky to have a roof over I've got that's

Constant as well you when you're trapped in it's bad enough when you're not locked in but when you're locked in and you they're like Yeah, they're obviously the other stuff was gone in for them. It wasn't just about the kids noise Was it? Oh quite everyone was going through the right thing. So that was you know, that was the other thing It's just like that. You should have said to him. Have you thought about finding faith? This could maybe calm you Find a sense of a greater purpose in life. Oh, God, can you imagine? I mean, I was so because we were in constant, like, quite sort of fraught email exchanges with them and the other people who were in the flats,

because everyone, you know, not that anyone else had complained. So what level were you on? Was it two? OK, so there's a lower ground, which was owned by lovely Maureen, but who was better in her 90s and was about to go in at home. Right. And so she couldn't hear anything. Yeah. Then it was this couple who were on the ground floor who were complaining and then we were the floor above them and then there was a couple like young professional couple above us who you know who we could hear moving around but we didn't give a shit because like well we're in a flat.

Of course we had people moving around. And actually, the complaining people, they had not actually had their floor roofing done in accordance with the lease. Because they said, oh, well, it's not a problem because Maureen can't hear. Oh, bastards. Yeah, she can't hear because she's 19. Now she's in her home.

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the app. It's as easy as that. See the PC Optimum app for details. So you were writing Intelligent Series 2 at that point. Is there points when you're on set with David Schwimmer, who must be, you know, one of the most successful people of the last 30 years in television and you're going, I'm having a nightmare with these people downstairs. I don't think I told him about it. And would he relate to stuff like that? Like, how does it work when someone's that like... Oh, completely. He probably can't even see his neighbours, can he? I mean, first of all, he's a gorgeous, wonderful man. And there was obviously a time when I was literally like pinching myself, like, oh my

god, this is David Schwimmer. Like, this is nuts. Literally what is going on. Reading the lines that you've written. He is so humble, so lovely, so sort of gentlemanly, generous. Like, certainly by the time we were doing series two, I mean, it is weird if he's literally just a mate.

Like, you know, we just text and catch up when he's here or if I've gone to New York., it is weird if he's literally just a mate. Like, you know, we just text and catch up when, you know, he's here or if I've gone to New York. So it is odd. I mean, when I, and I haven't been to New York many times and I've only been twice, but when we went, he literally just took me to a coffee shop in New York and in my head I'm like, is it Central Perl? Like, is it? And of course we still have friends on, in the background, on Netflix. Like, we'll still put it on. and it's just that comfort show, isn't it? You can just have it on and it's pretty suitable for the kids to watch. I mean, they haven't really seen much of it, but all that stuff is completely surreal.

But he is, it's testament to how nice he is. Would you talk about friends? Occasionally. I mean, there was one bit when the thing is if he ever mentioned friends, I almost had like a panic attack because it would just sort of remind me of like, you know, I was talking to him. So, he mentioned it. It was like the fact that he'd had that experience was, but I think, how best to phrase this? Like what's so incredible is that he just, he just normalized it. And I guess to a degree when he got in Friends he didn't he didn't

know at the point the like the level of success it was kind of like yeah of course gonna become and not for a second suggesting that me and him are on a similar kind of playing field or the success of Ted Lasso is the same as success of Friends but there was a point when I was kind of going through the Ted Lasso thing yeah and it was getting really big and it was like yeah because that wasn't expected, was it? I mean, obviously you hope, but it's, it's not like. Well, you hope sort of, but also we're so inclined, I think, as Britt, and maybe particularly from, you know, when you kind of cut your teeth through doing live stuff,

we're so kind of inclined to think, oh, audiences aren't going to show up. The reviews will be mixed. Oh, we had a bad night or that didn't work or this. You know, Edinburgh, you know, just you just develop such a thick skin. And to a degree, you're quite well prepared for when things don't go well. Yeah, because there is quite a good support network because everyone's been through it. Yeah, I'd say it's what's expected. It's rare that something is a hit. It is so expected. And it is so the norm. And so I mean, certainly within like my peers, for sure. And I feel like no one prepares you for something going well. And that's right as well, because

you should never kind of do something assuming it's going to be a hit. And I think partly she was actually because it came out in lockdown. And actually we were very sheltered from the success of it because it was a bit of a sleeper hit in the UK because not as many people had Apple TV at the time. But also it's not like we were then going to the States to do press or marketing or anything because of lockdowns and there was no travel. So we'd do the occasional thing on Zoom. So by the time it got to like, I don't know, the Emmys where we kind of went out and we were all suddenly like nominated, we were like, well, what, like what is going on? And then we realized how big it was in the States and we're like, oh my god. And so by the time we're doing season two and I was doing season two of intelligence,

I talked to David a little bit about that because suddenly we were doing sort of similar things in terms of suddenly having like, like just that whole world of like PR and stuff I'd never really really been privy to like before. I remember I was there for that first one and that was the first time I'd ever been to America. I'd never even been there on holiday. So I was absolutely rabid in the head. I hadn't flown long haul in 15 years or something. So it was just pro the real. And I remember being back there. And from what I understand, because obviously I've not been to one before or many since, you know, I've only done when we've gone for Ted Lassor, like that particular Emmy is when it was quite COVID-y still, was very low key.

And actually, there was no plus ones. It was all there was no audience. It was just it was very, you know, if you've been nominated, you were there. And that was sort of it really. And I remember being sat there with him. Remember Phoebe Walsh? Do you remember? He used to be in the sketch group Oyster Eyes, probably when we were up in Edward,

stuff like that, with Tash Demetrio and Phil Dunning. Phoebe writes, has been writing on Ted Latso for Red. She's brilliant, brilliant performer, but also a phenomenal writer. And we were just literally sat there. We kind of couldn't believe it because we were just like, our sort of safe space is like, you know, the Pleasant's upstairs, you know, at 5.45. You know, that's, that is our sort of bread and butter. And it still sort of is. It like, you know, the pleasant upstairs, you know, 545, you know, that's that is our bread and butter and it still sort of is it's kind of ingrained into us, I think, because we've done it for so long. When something kind of hits you out

of the blue like that, you just can't really deal with it. And we were just sort of like, we just didn't know I was so jet lagged as well. But it was obviously a privilege and phenomenal. And were you going from there to to creeping around your house when you got home because of the people? Like, was that the same time? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We only moved last year. So yeah. Yeah. Very much so. Because you get nominated for two years in a row, was it, for best supporting actor in a comedy? So two Emmy nominations. So have you been twice then or was one at home because of lockdown?

I've been three times now. So I didn't get nominated last year, but the show got nominated. And so I went over last year and then yeah, two times I was nominated. So, and again, such a privilege in a moment. Nick, what went wrong last year? Where do you start? Maybe the neighbours were driving you in those years. A hate campaign. Can you imagine? I'd love it. And not that it should have made any difference to kind of that situation. But I wonder if they'd ever seen anything I was in. I don't think they have.

Yeah, that's interesting. But I quite like the idea. I love the idea of them listening to this. Can you imagine? Oh, they're great. Also, you pop up in so many things. Did they ask what you did? Because you knew what they things. Did they ask what you did? Because you knew what they did. Did they ask what you did? No, they didn't. No, no, they didn't.

And they never implied that they sort of knew that I worked in entertainment. So I don't know. You walk in a very quiet way on Ted Lasso, don't you? Could you bring that to the house? You're not stomping around the stage at the Emmy. Your kids aren't in Ted Lasso. But also the sort of triple, I mean, was also that we were living in Richmond and, you know, we'd moved to Richmond in 2014 way before Ted Lasso.

And then also now and even now after the show has finished, you know, the after effect of, like, Richmond, you know, you still see sort of tourists there kind of wanting to kind of, like, see a lot of those locations. Yeah. But when we were living there, and especially when it was still filming, it was mad because I'd go for like, just go to the supermarket where you kind of go for a jog or something. And it looked like I was sort of doing it deliberately, but it's like, oh, no, no, no, just live here. But it was, yeah. Hanging around.

Yeah, just hanging around. Steve Coogan just wandering around Norwich. Quite. Yeah, just hanging around. Steve Coogan just wandering around Norwich. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. On that, and I'd be interested in your take on this as well, Rob. So do you, and with, say, something like Ted Lasso, and you don't know, if you're in something big, and so Rob, say, Robin Ramesh or me with the last leg or whatever. Yeah. Not that they're as big as Ted Lasso though. They're not that they're as big as Ted Lasso, but they're what I mean. Well, I think they probably are over here though, right?

Because Ted Lassow is sort of still, people have seen it over here, and it's still a bit of a sleeper here. I wouldn't say it's got like, I would say more people would have seen it. We'll all go out together, Nick, and we'll get a survey. But what I wanted to ask was with David Schwimmer. So I would still default that I presume people don't know what I do. So I'd say if someone said, what are you up to tonight? If it was a stranger, I wouldn't say I'm doing The Last Lake.

I'd say I'm doing a show I do for Channel 4. Completely. Would you do the same role? Yeah, no, if someone's got like no idea, I'd just be like, oh, I'm just working or whatever. But for David Schwimmer, I imagine. Yeah. And I just be like, oh, I'm just working or whatever. But yeah, for David Schwimmer, I imagine. Yeah. And I'd still say, hi, I'm Josh. Whereas would David Schwimmer say, hi, I'm David. And would he say, I was in this show. Absolutely.

Before people say Ross. I think he would. There was a really great moment when I remember we did the first, it wasn't even the official read through of like the first series of intelligence, but we were doing like a workshop he won, like I'd only like written three episodes at the time, but I remember John Montague, like lovely commissioner at Sky, now Netflix, John Montague, who like commissioned the show with Morena, he was at the read through and it's quite, it's relatively informal and afterwards he went up to David

and they sort of like were were chatting. Then John said, really po-face, and credit to him, he said, have you done much sitcom stuff before then? David, I think, did genuinely have a moment of like, oh, maybe he doesn't. He doesn't. But obviously then John was like, oh, no, no, no, obviously. But no, I don't think anyone, and Jason's, because it's the same, they're so gentlemanly, humble, kind, no, no. Obviously, obviously. But no, I don't think anyone and Jason's, they're so gentlemanly, humble, kind, genuine that he would never presume and they were always just kind and unassuming, I think. When your celebration of life is prepaid in advance, it becomes a gift from you to your family later because no one should have to plan for a loss

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you've got to be there at 9am, you can leave your house about half eight, 20 to nine and just wander down and still be present as a dad. Oh God, yeah. I mean, and that, you know, that is still really tough and credit to Becca, I cannot praise her enough. I mean, she is phenomenal. You know, she's listening. You know, she's listening. I know she's listening, but also it's not just the fact that she is a phenomenal human, like literally a superhuman, incredible mom and wife, but she is, it's this ability to sort of deal with,

because in this industry, it can be, there's levels of predictability, I guess, when you're on a job and you kind of know sort of short term, roughly what your hours will be or where it's shooting and stuff like that. But there is also a huge element of unpredictability. And that's no one's fault, but the choice of me to be in this, you know, in industry and the way sort of she deals with it and allows the kids to sort of see the positives of it and, you know, because it can affect the kids, you know, if I'm away, you know, particularly if I'm not there for bedtime and, you know, because it can affect the kids, you know, if I'm away, particularly if I'm not there for bedtime. And, you know, I have been relatively lucky in that a lot

of the stuff I've done, you know, it was a real one off in that regard, something to shoot so close to home, but even intelligence was filmed in Tuckinham studios, which is like 10 minutes away from Richmond, you know, so that was a blessing. But, you know, I filmed a little bit in the States and a little bit recently in Germany, but mostly it's been in London. But even so, the hours can be manic and Bec is still having to do like 99.9999% of like the parenting and childcare.

And then occasionally I'll show up just as they're about to be settled and probably on the cusp and then I wind them up something that I don't want to sort of just sort of stick around. How does bedtime with three work? We've made such a role for our own. I think when Becca was first pregnant, we were like, we had friends of ours who had

had, I think if they'd had their baby, they must have, they'd had their baby and they were doing, and you know, not to cast any judgment on how people do the whole sort of sleep thing, sleep training thing, but they had had like read I think this is the Gina Ford book where it's quite regimentally routine and you know but they were like they swore by it because they said yeah it's sort of hell for like a week but then actually you know the baby gets used to it and then you get full night sleep and then you're better as a parent and stuff like that we have never managed it like we once tried to do like a cry out thing. I think we lasted like 45 seconds. We're like, wow, this is no, no, we can't. But we have gone so far the other way. Especially those neighbors. Even Maureen will complain about that one. We found it so funny the idea of Becca. I

mean, she was pregnant when we were still in the flat, but not sort of showing. And we like the idea of being heavily pregnant and just keep on walking past them so that they notice. And then just thinking, then knowing there's going to be a newborn in the flat as well as everything else. That didn't happen because we moved before them. But now it's like, I mean, we're slightly in denial of the fact that like, we sort of still think that they should all be going to sleep at seven, but obviously that's just not, I mean, like Finn's eight and a half, like there's no way he's going to bed at seven. But sometimes they're like knackered and we like think, oh, well, they should maybe just at least

be sort of reading or doing some inquire from seven. So we'll try and sort of start at seven bath time. I mean, like, it's just, there's family bathroom. It's not like massive shower baths. And then there's a toilet. All three of those are in use, like guaranteed. So one of them's in the shower and he's in the little baby bath, which we're sort of like leaning over and then literally right next to it, usually Finn is doing a big poo, like the biggest poo because he's not poo all day. And we're just, sometimes we're just like, oh Finn, I mean, could you even just use like the downstairs loo? But no, no, it's like, no, don't want to be on a different level. So there's a cacophony of smell. We're just constantly trying to flush the loo with you.

Trying to get clean and dirty at the same time. Oh, that's the thing. And then one of them's brushing their teeth whilst wiping their bum. And then it's like, oh, for heaven's sake, no, just let's have a little bit of personal space. So and then Becca's still breastfeeding Annie. So and you know, again, we probably made a rub for our own back. So often Annie will fall asleep whilst breastfeeding.

And so I'm usually in with Finn and Arthur and we'll do, they'll read a book that they've usually been given from school that they've got to read. Then they usually listen to like a mighty audio thing. I don't know if you've got, you know, the Yoto player, it's like a, and there's like a daily podcast with a ton of kids that they'll like listen to which lasts 10 minutes. So what would happen on that, on a kid's podcast? Oh, it's quite good actually. Sometimes it's just like sort sort of facts about like the day like, you know, who was born this day, something about what this day represent, you know, or something that's been in the news, or they'll do like birthday shout outs. But some of them can be quite like, and now

you're going to run around the house and try and find some something beginning with every letter of the alphabet. And that's like, Oh, no, that's not anyone falling asleep. Literally, and he's then waking up. So we do do that. And then we have got into a habit of just one of us will just lay in that room with them between their beds until they're asleep. Because it's just what they used to, I mean, Finn Bleson used to hold my hand until he

fell asleep, until he was probably about four. It can be frustrating obviously, because you know, it's getting to like nine, half nine and you haven't eaten, the house is a tit, got emails, I mean I can do emails and stuff like that but we're like... That makes me feel so much better because that's what I'm doing at the moment. Yeah and Rose is away so you've got the little one in one room, you've got the older one in another. Well we've got this situation at the moment where my son, my daughter's moved on to cabin badge that she's just got. But her old bed is in her room

that my son sometimes still in there. Yeah, because he likes to sleep on it in her room now. Right. Okay. But then some days he won't and then you've gone we've just spent half an hour you try to get to sleep here and we've got to start again in your room. I mean, I think to be fair, Finn is probably gonna have to kind of like move, you know, upstairs, I've got an office upstairs, but I think he's probably just gonna move into that

as his bedroom and just, I think so, yeah. I don't think he'll stay there. Like, do you know what I mean? I think we'll do it, we'll move all the stuff and then he'll just want to be back downstairs with Arthur again. How did they find the move? Cause obviously it was in quite a small flat

and now you're in sort of a much more of a family home. Were they still a bit at night, a bit scared about it being bigger and going- I was sort of a much more of a family home. Were they still a bit at night a bit scared about it being bigger? I was sort of scared, but anxious certainly like they never wanted to be on a different level to us, like, you know, as in they're not. There's like multiple levels. They always want to be downstairs. And there's a rough says, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

So again, it's like a little thing because they'd never had like like stairs in their own house before anything. So they were kind of like, I don't know, they find the stairs like a barrier in a way. They kind of, I mean, they can walk upstairs. But they, they will very, very, very rarely be up in their room if we're downstairs. They just want to be at the same level as us. And that's part of the problem with like, when we want to kind of like come down and like cook or something like that, they'll then sort of potter down and like kind of like, you know, try and sort of like be downstairs

with us. And like literally, one night they just came and we're like, oh, that, they'll then sort of potter down and like kind of like, you know, try and sort of like be downstairs with us. And like literally one night they just came and we're like, oh, well they can just watch telly with them. We were just watching like Masterchef or something like that. We're like, just watch it. It's absolutely funny. It might be like half 10, but just watch it. Yeah. Stuff they pretend to like to get out of bedtime. Yeah. Dragon's Den. Yeah. I was watching Brighton play Brentford. I was like, I don't even give a shit about this guy. I was watching Brighton play Brentford. I was like, I don't even give a shit about this guy. You dare pretend you care. Actually, they're quite into football because I'm not really, but they're increasing into football. Did they watch Ted Lasso?

No, not really. I mean, you know, they're aware of it and aware of roughly what it's about, but no, they've never seen any of it. Bit grown up for them, isn't it? Yeah, a tiny bit grown up. But then I'm always like surprised, like occasionally, but no, they've never seen any of it. Grew up for them in it. Yeah, a tiny bit greater, but then I'm always like, surprise like occasionally, you know, I guess kids who are like maybe 10 or 11, how I have seen it. And I think partly because of the football maybe in it,

but actually that it was their sports day a week ago. And they do like the parents race, which is literally the worst sort of minute of my year. Yeah. And I think it's always just intimidating being the sort of- Did you do it then? Small guy and all these, I did do it, yeah, I did do it because Finn made me do it, but like-

How did it get on? I think I came like third out of five, but one of them fell over. Oh, that's all right, solid. That's all right, yeah. I think that was last, isn't it? No, third out of five, fourth. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, but third out of four. Yeah, no, okay, yeah, fair enough, yeah, that's last, isn't it? No, third out of five, fourth. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, third out of four.

Yeah, fair enough. And we were waiting to start. And one of the older kids at the school was like, Oh, you'll be fine, you're a football coach. And I'm like, fictional, fictional football coach. You're more of a swimmer, actually. And also, football coaches, I'm traditionally the most... It's not like they're the ones who are on the field aren't they?

They've all got massive bellies, don't they, the coaches? You see them with the touch on them and I feel sorry for them because they have to wear all the clingy clothes. And they're stood next to Jude Bellingham which is like an absolute athlete in his prime condition and there's just a bloke who's 47 like, oh fuck it now I've got to put this little clingy lifeguard on top of him. How are you going to deal, if they're really into football and you're not into it? Do you think you can get yourself into it? I feel like I'm into it like a little bit because of Ted. Like I feel like I've got far more of an appreciation for it because of Ted Lasso weirdly. Not that I will now actively sit down and watch but I definitely like when England play. I'd watch it. See Rob people can enjoy England playing, not just me. You don't have to be all angry about it.

No, but you can be annoyed with the tactics. But I do think that when you see your kids play, it's more fun because you're watching your kids play and if they're enjoying it, it's just fun to see them enjoy it. Whatever sport they do, you know? Oh, yeah, completely, yeah. They do ballet on Saturdays, which they love and have done it since they were like three, actually.

And they're getting like good at it because I've done it for so long. Was that an attempt to get them to walk lightly? Well, in a way, it was sort of like something that we could throw back at them and say, I mean, they do do ballet. Well, I remember last year, as part of a publicity thing, Apple sent me to see a West Ham game, because I was in the final season of Semi-Lasso,

I'm sort of the coach for West Ham. It was really odd, because I'd not been to a football match since I was like a kid and like my dad had sort of taken me to like Ellen Road when I really desperately didn't like football because I associated it with the kind of trendy sporty kids at school who were effectively also the bullies. Yeah. And I wasn't that crowd sort of like, you know, playing around with a deck of cards and stuff doing magic tricks.

You didn't think I was funny? You weren't a jock at school, no? that crowd sort of like you know playing around with a deck of cards and stuff doing magic tricks. You didn't think I was... You went a job at school no? Why are you wearing the baseball cap? Oh now I'm a job. Yeah you look great you've got a lovely little set of guns on you there Nick you look like you've been working out. There look at that, not bad go on Nick. Lovely frame on you. It's literally just sort of like lifting isn't it you know it's just sort of trying to do all this stuff and you kind of realize that it sort of counts as exercise, I guess. It's probably the bad kind though,

cause I'll probably sort of like get repressive, you know, what's it? Cause it's always the same kind of move. Stop it, take the compliment, you're looking great, Nick. You're very kind, as are both of you. Anyway, I went to that football match, and I saw it kind of brought loads of sort of flashbacks sort of back to sort of being at school

and sort of not really kind of knowing my place. And I was sad because West Ham had like gone all out because, you know, it's a bit of a publicity thing for them. And so I sat in, I don't know, but I sat in a nice bit, not a box, but it was, I think the people who have got, what are they called when you've got a yearly ticket? Season pass? Season ticket. Season ticket, sorry.

Season pass. I don't know. I know. Subscription to West Ham. And this guy came and sat next to me after about 10 minutes of the game sort of starting and it was like, oh, right, right. What's what's been happening and what's been happening? And I had no I had no idea. Oh, God.

And I had to sort of like literally sort of like go through my sort of time. I just get like, well, what's the sort of think of tactics? Think of anything and just sort of say that, just a declamatised. But then I really did. I don't think West Ham won that that day. But like it was, it was just quite like, oh, I can see how people really like this. I think I can see how people. And I think at first just occasionally, and maybe there's part of me that still sometimes believes this. I used to think, you know what, I was going to say, I actually don't think I think

this now, I definitely thought this as a kid. I didn't think that the benefits of football outweighed the negatives in terms of, you know, racism, the sort of the hierarchy, the massive fees that, you know, the kind of tribalism, you know, that, you know, all that hooliganism, all of that I sort of conflated with, but is it really that good? Like, is it really worth it? And now I'm a bit older, but now I've probably dissociated it with that. I think, actually, you know, it's brilliant. And like, you can see how people love it. Now you've been nominated for an Emmy twice for a football based comedy drama. You can see them. It's all in. Let's talk about Douglas is cancelled. Oh, yes. You play a comedy writer. I saw a picture of you. I was reading an article about it. Yeah. And the outfit they've put you in is fucking perfect for like, you just look,

yeah, yeah. You look like a comedy writer. They give me glasses as well. They give me like kind of slightly comedy glasses. Oh, you do. I've just seen the promo. They put me in quite sort of retro-y clothes, I think. Yeah, yeah, just slightly. Faded monster munch top or something. Yeah. Jeans have got a wallet mark in monster munch top or something. Yeah, jeans that

have got a wallet mark in it when it's been worn. There you go. So tell us the premise for Douglas is Cancelled which is kind of, you know, does what it says on the tin in it. It's a good title in that sense. Yeah, yeah quite. I mean it's really fun. I mean like, so I didn't know this, I only found this out of the pressing that we did for it last week. But apparently it was written as a play. So Stephen Moffat of Sherlock and Doctor Who fame, genius, genius writer and Gogglebox and Gogglebox and all that. Sorry, that's Scarlet Moffat. Sorry. Ha ha ha ha ha. They're different guys.

I don't know if Gogglebox was actually scripted comedy. I'd love that. Oh, God, it'd be a tough one to write. They've all been due to naturally as a scripted comedy. I'd love that. They're the best actors in the world. Yeah, Stephen Moffat wrote it and it is about cancel culture. So Hugh Bonneville plays a newsreader who gets cancelled because he's overheard saying a sexist joke, but the kind of the ins and outs of exactly what this joke are kind of like hidden from us, like for the first

sort of three episodes actually, out of four episodes. So it's all about the kind of, what the industry trying to navigate this potential viral cancellation. And it is a phenomenal piece of writing from Stephen actually, because it manages to walk this tightrope of, it doesn't come down either side on whether it counts or culture, it's a thing for good or bad, you know, it really, really does walk a tightrope and you're seeing it from all different points of view. I mean, in episode three, I mean, it's very, because he is so witty, it's very funny and actually knowing it as a play now, it's very farcical, actually, it's lots of kind of in and out of rooms, opening doors, people passing each other in corridors, you know, it's very quick. But actually episode

three gets very serious and deals with some, I won't go into detail, but does some very serious issues about the industry. And, and it really kind of takes your breath away a little bit because you've been laughing up till that point. And then suddenly you're questioning why you were laughing. And but yeah, I play a comedy writer who is effectively sort of brought in by the news team to try and take on Hugh Bonneville's character's sort of Twitter profile, like try and make lights of it and try and sort of feed in one liners so that he sort of can try and dilute this situation. But he's basically the comedy writer is a misogynist as well, has only ever sort of

surrounded himself by people like him and a very niche world of comedy. And so he's basically digging a bigger and bigger hole for Douglas. Well, that's on ITV1 and ITVX in June. ITV smashes drama, doesn't it? It absolutely smashes it. Yeah, it's doing some really interesting stuff on ITV. And I think it's really interesting that I think, because I assume, I've never actually found this out for definite, but I assume that Steven Mo never actually found this out for definite, but I assume that Stephen Moffat couldn't have had the pick of the crop really given his kind of calibre, right? And it's really interesting, I think, that he's gone to ITV because it's a, you know, it's

very mainstream channel. They brought down the post office. Do you think this could have the same impact? But I think it's this idea that it will definitely encourage conversation around kind of cancel culture and misogyny and sexism in the workplace and what counts as banter, what doesn't, what you're allowed to say in private, what you can say when you've kind of got the anonymity of social media. I think it will encourage a real mainstream conversation about a lot of those issues, but also to put it on a platform. I mean, look, all channels have occasionally got into trouble, but to put it on a platform, you know, like ITV, which hasn't, you

know, it certainly had its fair share of controversy is like, you know, you know, so I feel like it's really interesting. I think they're in a really interesting kind of place and it's great that they're giving it such prominence, but yeah, I'll be really interested to see how it goes down. Late June, ITV1 and ITVX. 27th of June, I believe. 27th of June. Yeah, I assume it's on ITV, the whole thing's on ITVX, but then I think the linear broadcast is weekly.

Oh, what you think is all out on ITVX in one go? I suspect so, yeah. Binge-worthy. People can bloody well binge it. Nick, we always end with the same question. I'm sure Becca knows. That Becca knows. Becca has not told me what this question is.

Oh, well, that's good. So you've never got to an end of a four episode in a car, like, listening to, at the start of this chat, you do listen. Just saying I remember these things. We're usually forced to put on like wheels on the bus by that point, you know. Something to get the kids to. Oh my God, I tell you what,

I've done panel shows where I've said I've seen it before. I don't know why you sat... My knee jerk is to say to the researcher I've seen it before and then before you know it you don't know the rules of what's happening. I love the buzzer winging it. I will say that I'm so terrified of panel shows that I have... If I've ever gone on one and to be fair, Castle's Candle is the only one I've done. You were brilliant on that.

I studied it because I was just so nervous. You don't need to be,, Cas is the only one I've done. You're brilliant on that. I studied it too, because I was just so nervous. You don't need to be, but you're funny. Well, I just sort of felt, because I'm not a stand up, but I just wasn't going to. Yeah, I know, but as I was saying, I've got family members that are funnier than actual stand ups and are living on the circuit. It's not because they're not fun,

it's because they can't bother to do it. Oh, really? Oh, wow. Yeah, you've smashed it every time. I did the movie show on Sky with you. You were great. Oh, yeah, I did do that, didn't I? Yeah, and then Sean was and... Alan Carr, Tom Allen. Yeah, Alan Carr and Michael Sheen, yeah. Well, Nick, this is something that will make you uncomfortable.

We'd like to end with a positive, which is something that your wife does, something that she does that just blows your mind. It's like, I couldn't parent like that. This is why, you know, she's the most amazing parent in the world. And something if she was listening, we don't know if she listens, she does that annoys you, but you haven't brought up

but this if she heard it, it'd be a chance for her to correct that small piece of behavior. So she Oh, yeah, you go straight in, you go straight in. I mean, she's literally upstairs doing this now. So she is like, literally, and she has no kind of, there's no reason why she should be good at this, but she can literally just like build stuff, like just build stuff. Yeah. I mean, she literally sort of like built the kitchen, like she just sort of did. And I don't even just mean like flat pack, like she just, she just sort of learned how to tile, just learned how to sort of like put paneling on,

like did the flooring, the tiling. And I'm like, where were you? And she's like, I just looked on YouTube, like just looked on. She's literally phenomenal. She is like currently upstairs, because I think we are going to literally next week put Finn up in the office, sort of moving stuff around. And like, and it can be annoying because like, she'll sort of finish off in one room. And then she'll be like, I think we should change it. If it was just just do let's put a cupboard there or let's just do that or put some shelter She'll just go and do it and it is phenomenal like

Her work ethic her ability to sort of just know how to do it like in an innate ability to sort of know how to do it, but at the same time We're having so much time and energy for the kids and for me and crane this like so much time and energy for the kids and for me and creating this like wonderful, I just don't know where she gets energy from. And to survive on such little, I mean, I'm not getting much sleep, she's getting even less sleep. I mean, like it is phenomenal how she's able to kind of function. One day of that, less than one day of that, I would be like, I'm out of this, I can't keep this up. I mean, she is, and it maybe

even feels like a cliche to kind of like be this praiseworthy, but I feel like people don't quite get it. And if people ever like come to the house, I'm like, you know, the Becca literally made this and they're like, what do you mean? Do you mean you got someone in to do it? And she sort of told them what I was like, no, no, she made it. I'm like, what do you mean? It's like she got the like, literally the ingredients, but broke it down into inconsistency and made it into the thing that it is. I mean, it is phenomenal. Like the only thing she's not been doing is electrics and plumbing, but like everything else. But also in like, just to go back to love them in lockdown, because she's a teacher as well. She just structured these days, like the kids didn't even

notice. I mean, like Arthur was too young still, but Finn had started nursery at that point. But she just created these really structured days to make it like, so that they wouldn't really notice any different. And it was just sort of phenomenal. So she's still teaching on Zoom as well, like as well as doing the homeschooling stuff,

or is she on maternity leave? Doing bits and pieces, yeah, yeah. But still teaching. Oh dear, yeah. She's on maternity leave and then just started teaching sort of again within it. But yeah, I'm seeing she went back to the school that she was at, is the negative, is there a negative? Well, the negative is the mess. Because I sort of have it in my head that, oh, and this is partly from, I guess, from when we're in the Flatland Abkits, it's like,

it's just easier to kind of just reset, like everything, start the day afresh, because it's just otherwise, it's all just sort of like kind of mounts up. But now that we've got like a bit more space, it's absolutely fine for like one room to be messed up. I like to sort of like go in and sort of like still sort of like slightly up. So I sometimes like prioritise the role of things to sort of like do, I guess. But I sometimes see the mess as a bit of a negative, but it's not really. I mean, the grand scheme of things, they should literally build our house. I mean, it's mad.

Oh, well, Nick, this has been brilliant. Thank you so much. Amazing. Thank you so much. Well, good luck with it, mate. Thank you so much. Absolute joy. Thanks so much for having me.

Always a pleasure. Take care, both of you. And yeah, hopefully see you soon. I love Nick Mohammet, Josh. Oh, so do I. What a nice bloke. He's the kind of person, I think, if I met him, like, when I Mohammet, Josh. Oh, so do I. What a nice bloke. He's the kind of person, I think, if I met him like when I used to work in St. Louis,

I'd be like, you're gonna be my mate. Yeah. We're gonna be mates, but you know, life gets busy. We don't see each other enough, but I think me and Nick Mohammet could be really good pals if we live close to each other. I think you could. You, him and David Schwimmer on the bloody mega lash.

Having a couple of beers, chatting about friends, Ted Lasso and wedding day winners. We don't know what's going to be here. I like that show. Yeah I did, I thought Ross was a good character, Monica was good. I thought Joey was a bit annoying, but there we go. But after a while he fell in love with him. Yeah exactly.

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