Rob Beckett and Josh Widdicombe's Parenting Hell - S9 EP39: Ever Eaten a Kumquat?

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

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Hello, I'm Rob Beckett. And I'm Josh Willicombe. Welcome to Parenting Hell, the show in which Josh and I discuss what it's really like to be a parent, which I would say can be a little tricky. So to make ourselves and hopefully you feel better about the trials and tribulations of modern day parenting, each week we'll be chatting to a famous parent about how they're coping. Or hopefully how they're not coping. And we'll also be hearing from you, the listener, with advice and of course tales of parenting woe. Because let's be

honest there are plenty of times where none of us know what we Beckett. Can you say Rob? Beckett. Beckett. Beckett. Can you say Josh? Josh. Can you say Widdicombe? Fake.

Breaking. Fucker. What's going on? Did she just say fucker? Did she just say fucker? She sounds like a nan, a dying nan trying to remember her grandkids names. I think she calls me a fucker at the end. Listen to this. Fucking fucker.

Fucker. Little fucker. Little fucker. Oh please don't say she's got asthma or breathing difficulties now. This is melody from the children's ward. Oh God. When she says Beckett, it's like you're being haunted by a Victorian child, Rob. Listen to this. Go on.

Beckett. Oh. Wrong. Beckett, I'm coming for you. I'm gonna hide a speaker in your bedroom and then just play that Beckett. AM. Beckett.

Beckett. My daughter keeps making me jump in the mornings or in the night and coming in just standing right by my face and it's horrific. Well, I wish that my children had the opportunity to come in, but they're currently sleeping in our bedroom. Oh, still. We'll get on to that.

No, not all the time. We'll get into that. Hi, Rob, Josh and Michael. This is my two-year-old daughter, Melody, having a go at the intro. For some reason, she will only whisper Rob's name. I'm not sure why it sounds like she's swearing at the end of Whiddicombe, but I promise she's not. No, she's swearing, she might not mean to. She said the word fucker.

Yeah, that is swearing. That's not Whiddicombe. Thank you for the podcast. My husband and I have been listening since lockdown. Respect. Our first daughter, Summer, was just nine months old when the first lockdown hit, and now she's five and a half, and in year one at school, so in the midst of digraphs,

spelling tests and reading books. School is mental. But mate, the issues I'm having with homework now and that they're only in year four and year two, my mate has got dyslexia as well as recommended me chat GPT and what he does is he takes a photo of the homework, asks chat GPT to answer it so he knows all the answers and then he can help point them in the right direction because sometimes I can't work it out. Why isn't Lou doing it Rob? I don't know, if I don't know it and I'm living a life. Oh you're living a life all right, you're sat in front of three American shirts with some padding in a cold office in southeast London. I tell you what mate,

it's far from cold, it's fucking right, I'm gonna have to pop this jumper in a minute. Take your big old hoodie off then Rob. Take it off, alright I'll take my hoodie off if you want. No, no, no, no. Do you need proof to you of the temperature? I'll go topless if you want. I basically have realised by doing the kids' homework that like, I didn't realise how niche my expertise in life are.

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I've recognised that for years. There's about four or five things I can do to a very high level, and then there's the rest of life that I've got nothing, absolutely nothing. Rob, imagine being me, because I'm like you, but also my tastes are niche. So I haven't even got- No, but I'd say you're a little bit good at most things,

where like, if you had to do your times tables, you could sort of get your head around that. I do know what, math is something that luckily I'm good at most things. Well, if you had to do your times tables, you could sort of get your head around that. I do know what math is something that luckily I'm good at, but I never use it. But also in a way that's a curse. If you're a little bit good at everything, you don't know what to double down on. I had to double down on talking because I had nothing. And if you've got nothing, then it really pushes you into the tiny little bit of stuff you got. Oh, did I tell you I'm the most dangerous man on radio too Rob?

Oh yeah? What have you been up to? I went on Romesh. There's been some dangerous men on that radio station I'll tell you. What have you been up to mate? What allegations have we got coming? They put up one of my clips on Instagram and then it got taken down. Why?

I think because I said cocaine. Oh Josh bloody hell, Oliver Reed in the building. it got taken down. Why? I think because I said cocaine. Oh, Josh, bloody hell, Oliver Reed in the building. You've got a GSO. No wonder you have to stay off the plonk. Oh, no, I saw that clip. I'm gonna take my jumper. And you reported it? No, I didn't report it. I said how did radio to go because you went into speech to Ramesh one second to do my little ear thing so I can hear you again. You said, Oh, I use cocaine as one of the punchlines, but maybe you could have said drugs rather

than cocaine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's live radio, oookays. It's live radio. It wasn't a punchline in the sense I hadn't written it or anything. It was just chat. No, it was just a turn of fright. Like I do sort of think, you know, I know it's not for like, it's like for population, but like- That does exist. Because if I heard cocaine on the radio and my daughter wants cocaine I'll say it's a very bad drug. You should never have and it's illegal. It's just for daddies and mummies you take It's basically totally illegal and frowned upon unless you're in a field in Somerset in June and then everyone's allowed it and it's not a problem And after these DJs are off their fucking night in the queue

What's going on with this jumper? I've took my jumper off. I know, it looked so heavy when you lifted it up. Do you know what is a big... You lifted it up like you were trying to get a duvet off you. Do you know some jumpers are heavy? That's a heavy one. Have you gone from Lacoste to Lacoste?

Oh yeah, mate, I've doubled up. There's crocodiles everywhere, mate. It's like a fucking swamp. It's like the Everglades in there. They're actually alligators, but this is an alligator, not a crocodile, isn't it? Yeah. We're probably wrong twice there.

So did they tell you that you shouldn't do that or they just took the clip down? There was something on my story where it said like, this no longer exists or something. I got an alert. This no longer exists. What does exist really? Oh, here we go. It's all memories. Oh my word.

Bloody hell. There are some things you're good at. Bullshit. Bullshit. And alligators. I just flex my muscles. I'm really overexcited. I've been sleeping well. Shall I tell you about my morning, Rob? This is going to blow your mind. Did we do the full email before we get into your morning and what your children do? Melody and Summer, is that all? Yeah, we got a spelling test. Podcast has proved. How did you know that? Yeah. Melody, 25 months. Summer, 27 months. Leeds.

Perfect. There we go. Just give them the full respect they that? Yeah. Melody, 25 months, summer 27 months, Leeds. Perfect. There we go. Just give them the full respect they deserve. Yeah. Your life, your morning. You got headphones? Good news. Got headphones.

Good news. Two pairs? Two pairs. Back up pair. The box is going second draw down on the right for when I lose these ones. Right, okay mate. Burglar's probably listening. They're breaking your house for a free quid pro. Really good stuff Rob.

I'm too full of beans Josh. They're more than welcome to break into my house today. It's a fucking nightmare. Okay, what's going on Josh? So Friday, the weekend was looking great Rob. Right, talk to me, your first weekend in Jan, talk me through it. I've been all Christmas and basically for the two months of October, three months of October, November, December. December up against it the new year

I'm gonna be doing what I want to be doing. I'm gonna do exercise, you know, I don't want to lose I can feel my strictly bod melting. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, that's really bored. You got in four sessions. Absolutely I imagine yeah that Strictly bored. There's the talk of the tabloids. There's four days of exercise you did in October. Yeah. I'm having to grate cheese back on a grater rather than my abs now, which is a shame. Have you got still got builders in the house? Are they all gone now?

I got so far. No, Friday. Because it's good job. You got all your building work done before Christmas. You didn't want to done in January. Yeah. So the house is fine. The boiler is on the blink.

Right. Okay. So I'll cut you off. He's looking forward to the weekend. Yeah. Rose was going to Hot Wheels live at the O2. Really? So you had the kids, yeah? Oh, great. So Rose and Rick, who we both know. Yeah. Yeah. They were going to Hot Wheels with the kids. Right. Rick was going. I'd met him. He works for our agency. He'd been friends with Rose for longer than I've known Rose, right?

Oh, has he? Yeah, because he used to work in TV before he worked in... I didn't know that. Oh, right. So he knew Rose before then and he's organized a little trip to Hot Wheels. Well, he said he was going to Hot Wheels. I said, oh, my son would love Hot Wheels monster trucks at the O2. Because, as you know, he's a petrolhead.

Absolute cliche boy. Yeah. absolute boring hetero boy. I don't know if he's hetero but you know what I mean? Well, he loves painting nails and he loves But he loves the fucking sweet, sweet smell of petrol. He does. Something for everyone. So I can't go because I'm doing Romesh. Oh, is it a daytime thing? Yeah. Yeah.

So did your daughter go as well? Yeah, we asked she said she wanted to go. So Rose, him and my daughter are going Friday. He comes up with a temperature of 39. He can't go in. Oh, come on. First week back, inset day Monday, him with the temperature on Friday. Oh, he's missed Hot Wheels.

Saturday, temperature up to 40. Oh no. No Hot Wheels. This is flu going about, isn't it? Yeah. Feels like it's COVID, but no one wants to mention it. Oh, well. Everyone's getting really ill

and being in bed for a week. Yeah. Which is what sort of happened with COVID, isn't it? Can't have another one. No. So Rob, Monday. Rose is worried because he's still ill. Oh no.

On Sunday. And today she's going to Paris because her friends, he's been working on a film for like seven years and it's the premiere in Paris. Right, OK. So she's going to Paris with some bloke. No, he is a homosexual for a start. How do you know?

Well, either he's been. How do you know? You've been on the end of it? You've seen it? He's been playing an incredibly long game, if not. He sucks so many dicks in a pursuit of snaring rose behind your back as a fake overzealous. Do you know what? Respect to it. Fair play trip, fair play trip.

She's not going over even with him. He's there, he lives there. So anyway. I'm joking. Anyway, she wakes up this morning. Yeah. She's ill. No.

My son's still ill. She's missed Hot Wheels and now Paris. Yeah, my son's still ill. She got a temperature. Yeah. She's ill. No, my son still ill. She's missed Hot Wheels and now Paris. Yeah, my son's still ill. She's got a temperature. Yeah, he's got a temperature and so is my daughter. I'm so glad we're not doing this in person. Yeah. So you're the only one not ill. I'm the only one not ill. So they're all sleeping in our room because my son was ill so we had him in our room and then my daughter was like, can I sleep in there as well? Obviously. That's a fucking hot

bed, isn't it? Temperature everywhere bed and temperature. What fucking chance of I got this? No way you slept under the duvet in that heat. Surely just say no. If you've got tickets to my preview of the Bill Murray tonight. Good luck. I feel fine at the moment. I've got two previews this week. You're not gonna make that Tuesday. Oh, no, it's always be comedy tomorrow. It's a Bill Murray on Thursday, then my first gigs of the year. Anyway, so they all go upstairs to the spare room at the top. They're all in the spare room ill at the moment. Yeah, they're always in the spare room ill.

The boiler's on the blink. Also, you've had an absolute blinder here because only when you're ill, you have to look after the kids, but she's having to be away and look after the kids in the bedroom. Come downstairs, boiler's off. The boiler's gone on the blink. Was this today or during the weekend? The boiler's been on the blink for a week. It goes off and then you press reset and it'll come back on.

But obviously the only way you realize it's gone off is the house gets fucking freezing. Yeah, so is it the... There's a code on it. I know, there's a little thing where you have to turn a tap and fill the boiler up. Have you tried that? Yeah. Rob, we had an emergency plumber out on our house insurance who did... I'm going to say it.

Fuck all. Bleda radiator told us that our plumber was wrong and left. That kind of bloke. That was it. I wouldn't have done it like this. See, wrong and left. That kind of bloke. That was it. I wouldn't have done it like this, see, like, it's not working. So you fixed it? Well, he fixed it temporarily. Obviously, it went off the next day again.

We had a problem with a boiler once, where every tap pumped out boiling water. I'd fucking kill for that at the moment. Well, no, what happened was, the thing that in the big water bucket upstairs... I don't know how anything's up, we've got a big tank, big tank, it's always a bucket bucket of a little tank. It's a bucket of a lid, a big tank of water. Oh no, he's getting

a tank of water that had like a thermometer thing in it, I think. And then what that does is when that's working, it will turn the boiler off when it gets to the right temperature and vice versa. Yeah. So that broke. So it just kept on boiling and boiling boiling. And it was just like, it's fucking furnace up there. So the boiler's on the blink. I turn it back on, but I'm dealing with that today.

And then I'm dealing with all the people ill in the bed, having to get everything for that and then obviously Adrian turns up. Oh, as an aside Rob, last week, I almost got my dick out in front of Adrian. What happened? Well walked into the bathroom. Yeah. I did my flies. Look to the right and Adrian's just silently under the sink. And so you didn't notice until the flies are undone. Yeah, basically.

So who spoke first? I did. I was like, oh, you're right, Adrian, sorry. I might point the blade one in there. He's just waiting for it, was he? I would go, well, I'm in here, mate. I don't know what he was fixing with his camera phone, but he seemed to have it out. If I'm on my hands and knees in a toilet and I hear the unzip of a zipper.

It was all very quick because he saw me walk in. I think when someone walks in, you don't instantly think they're going for a piss because obviously mainly I walk in. Oh shit. No, but mainly I'd walk in there and go, Adrian, have you got two minutes to do this? Or can you help me with my penis? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My daughter had a play date. Sometimes I don't always shut the toilet when I go for a wee. Do you do that in your own house? No, but my I'm not one of those families. I like to encourage a real shame about your own body.

Right. Yeah. I mean, I think you should shut the door. The blame's I'm not saying that's a good idea. But like I should shut the door when I go to the toilet, but I didn't have the door open slightly. And then I forgot she had a play date. I was like, Oh God, I'm shutting doors now more often. So I had to continue my morning. Adrian and his mate turn up. If they're in their parking ticket. Yep.

I had to do that. And then I took obviously call the school, get them off, get a text from shell. Who's going to be looking after my son tomorrow. She's done her back in. so we've got no childcare tomorrow. That was ideal time, that's all for her, yeah. Well, yeah, but you more care about yourself at this point in time, don't you? To be honest, yes. Today, I am in the best position

of everyone involved in my family, although I might dissent. You seem well, you seem full of beans. Bright eyed bushy-towed. I'd say I'm on a bit of a weird, like, I've gotta be okay, I've gotta be okay. And then Didier turns up to measure up the glass for the shower and a large mirror.

Right, yeah. You are doing your whole house, aren't you? Yeah. He starts measuring up the mirror. So it's a mirror that is like, where the sink is, it's the whole wall. Right, big mirror. And he's like, do you want it in nine pieces

or how many pieces and what kind of mill do you want it in from the side of the wall? And I'm like, I don't know Didier. And Rose is upstairs and she's too unwell. Measure up and we'll let you know, I'm trying to shuttle between two people passing on information that I don't understand to an ill person that's not going to make the right decision.

So in the end, Rose has to come down. She's not in a good state. Dressing gown on? Yeah. Cleaner turns up. Some of the rooms are too much of a state because of the building work. So I have to take the cleaner around the house and explain what to clean in Spanish. Absolutely. Yeah. And then it's this. And so she's had to cancel Paris completely.

Rose. She's moved her Eurostar to March. So I mean, I've come out of it all right. She's, we're going to Paris for a night. Oh, you two together? Yeah. Oh, sorry. I had a drink then, it didn't go down well. Like that's kind of thing my dad used to say. Oh dear, you're getting old. I don't know what happened, I just drank it and it just, it felt like an oxo cube was trying to get through my throat and into my belly. What are you drinking, Bavra? Coffee. Do you know what? It might have just been an actual lump of coffee I drank there that I haven't stirred up properly. Oh my god. I'm on instant.

You're on instant? What is it, 1998? What's going on Rob? I am at my office, That's all I've got. Can I be honest? I prefer instant. You don't drink coffee. I know but when I did it was the days of instant. So it's a nostalgia. Yeah, but that was the coffee I used to drink. You're talking shit. That's like an old man guy and I preferred it when there was only a landline then you wouldn't get bothered all the time. Piss off. Am I going to watch the new Kimbo Slice documentary on YouTube with a landline mate?

Who's Kimbo Slice? Kimbo Slice. Who's Kimbo Slice? It's just a bit of pop culture you won't understand because it happened after 1997. Rob, I'm fully up to date. Kimbo Slice was a bare-knuckle fighter that went- I'm out. He went viral from Miami.

Black guy with a big beard and he went viral online, having these street fights and then he ended up going to MMA where he didn't do that well, he did alright and then he sort of tragically died quite young because he had an enlarged heart but he never told anyone about that because they wouldn't let him fight but he did that anyway. It's quite an interesting documentary actually. But that's Kimbo Slicer then nutshell, that's a little vice documentary I've been watching. Oh, fair enough. Now, Rob, yeah, how's your week been? A lot of parenting, a lot of parenting, lose working quite a lot this month. And so I've been doing near enough, all the school drops and pickups. Yeah, I've realized actually that like, I think I could just survive with my

life being dropped the kids at school, go to the gym, listen to talk sport, wait for them to finish school, pick them up, bring a moment. I quite like that kind of lifestyle. Are you ready to retire? Is that what you're saying? Well, because you went mad during lockdown because you didn't have an outlet. I think I could just do standup and this podcast and nothing else potentially. I'd miss Robin Romesh because I like doing that and some other shows

that I enjoy. But then that is to mean this isn't a full time job is it? This is a day a week. I think you're pushing that. Okay, we're gonna be done at 1215. Yeah, that's not a day is it? But once you've got a factor get up and go home. Get up and go out. Do you mean? Go out, go out. Come here. go home. Yeah, yeah, okay.

I don't know if I am ready to retire, but I'm quite enjoying simple stuff and a routine. I think you, of all the people I know, there is the outlet problem. We've all seen that. Lou might leave me if I don't have an outlet that's not her. I think if you're making decisions

on whether Lou's gonna leave you, there's gonna be very few things left because I think that's inevitable at some stage. I scored a goal. I can ignore that. I scored a goal in five-a-time football. You boring cunt. This is the worst story. No, no, no, let me out. But I celebrated. Yeah. Which is embarrassing. Yeah. Because it's quite a good finish. I don't normally do that. I think that's because I'm not working as much at the moment. I've got energy. I've got to be like, yes! Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Okay. And the gym doesn't do that for you. The gym doesn't do that. I find the gym actually...

I've got an idea, Rob. Go on. So talk me through your day as you do it now. Your dream day, which is you get up, you drop the kids to school. Right, drop the kids to school. You go to the gym. Go to the gym. Go on a dog walk. Listen to talk sport. Listen to talk sport. So this is my idea. And a podcast. You need to the gym, go to the gym, go on a dog walk, listen to talk sport, listen to talk sport. So this is my idea and a podcast. You need to start calling in Rob. Yeah. All right. And then that's the outlet.

That's the outlet. We've got Rob from Bromley again. And Arsenal are just, we need a finisher. Abberts, I love him, but he ain't a striker. He's been playing about out of his skin. He's been pampering over this crap. You said that yesterday. You just say that yesterday when you called. And I'm what I'd call, you know, a good amateur.

And I'm finishing. I'm finishing my chances. So what is it mentally that's blocking him? We're actually talking about David Moyes today. Have you got anything on that? No. What I want to talk about is Arsenal. I think though, I'll be that,

I feel like I'll be like David, if I did start doing less, obviously I've got an incredibly busy year of my tour and filming coming up. It's just these first few weeks are quite quite, I do think that like, I'd end up being like David Brent who just kept turning up at the talk sport offices for pressing it. But I think they'd be quite encouraging at the start. Like, Oh yeah, get Rob on.

Yeah. Talk about your tour, talk about Arsenal. But then after a while it would be like, yeah, he's in reception again. In his five sidekick. The weird thing is, Rob, obviously you'd be perfect for talk sport. Yeah. But it would be an insane career decision at this point. For you to get a job at talk sport.

I'd be bored of it in a week. I don't think it'd be a week. If I'm not doing exactly what I want at any point in life, I get bored and zoom off somewhere else. I've got to keep telling myself this. I know this is boring career chat. Go on.

But just cause you like consuming something, like watching or listening to something, it doesn't mean you'd like doing it. Right. For instance. Magic Christmas. That's a good example. You love Magic Christmas. I went to watch them film the Masked Singer.

I love the Masked Singer. Yeah. They're all brilliant on the Masked Singer. Why are you about to suck it off? No, it's five hours and you're like, fuck it out. I thought Jonathan Ross has got the best fucking gig in TV. He just sits around, watches a bit of singing. Five hours entertaining a room of kids.

I was like, I would be dead three episodes into this you know I mean there's some time even though I work in TV I fall for oh that looks fun do you know what I mean? My daughter's actually said that the gladiators watching it live was better than watching it on the telly. Yeah well I think the thing about watching gladiators live is you really get the majesty of the size of the things, the power of it. They only knew the outcome as well as the rounds because they'd seen it as well. Yeah, exactly.

I suppose. Yeah. So I've just got to remember that I am like you, Rob, incredibly easily bought. And so in my head, I'm going, do you know what I should do? A blur podcast every week. Yeah. No, the reason why this works is because it changes. What we're up to changes. And we're all over the fucking shop.

Oh, yeah. I mean, if I had to, no offence to James A. Castrodent Gamble. It's a brilliant podcast, but I couldn't ask fucking whoever it is that week, Sir Mo Farah, if it's Papa Dom's or Bread. No, exactly. But some people like that. And that's fine. And no shade on anyone with a format.

Yeah. But it's not for you, Rob. shade on anyone with a format. Yeah. But it's not for you, Rob. A format is not for me. Because sometimes I think, do you know what I want? I want a bloody daytime quiz show. And then I think, I would go, I know my agent listens to this. She'll be writing this text at the moment going, if you've got a daytime quiz show, you would go mad within a week and a half. Because it takes a special type of person to do three episodes of

pointless a day for three months. Some people love that routine. Some people love that routine. So when I did a podcast, a day Tom Cruise show up in Glasgow, we was up there for three weeks. And basically we recorded two a day and we used to start at like 12, 11 a.m. and finish at about sort of five, six. And I just went, yeah, why are we starting at 11? And basically a lot of the like the crew and the makeup

people and all the camera people were saying, I was a bit annoyed starting at 11. You can never get a car park in the parking space because we all have to be here for 10 for an 11 a.m. star. And I thought, well, would it be better to start early? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then we get we parked right at the front and it's free. I went, what time would people want to start? And they're like, makeup. If we did the first one at like 9am, yeah, that'll be good. And I was all right. And then I spoke to the floor manager went, well, sure, you want to not 9am. So I started a revolution. It was a coup. He went, chat to the camera crew and sound. So he goes, I'm doing it. I go speak to cut the producers stuff like that. And if we for now, everyone's up for nine AM. I then I spoke to like the top producer person

went, is there any reason why we can't start at nine AM and she was like, well, it's a bit early for people. I've had a little chat and people are quite keen on you. And also all the contestants are in hotels and like, so then basically we then they all agreed to a nine AM start. We smashed it out by half one. I was in the pub bar too, right? And I spent like a week just in the ground plaza Glasgow getting on it from two o'clock on pints of mongo lager. On your own or just with the camera crew

that are absolutely delighted with you. In regards to everyone, everyone's buying you drinks. He's the guy who liberated us. We've got two o'clock finishes here, get a it. No, Richard Osmond was staying in the hotel, doing house of games. So Richard Osmond would have a drink. He'd come in a bit later on. Fucking loser. He hasn't started a revolution. You know, Kit does makeup. She was up there, I think, and she came in and had a few drinks. And then we started to get to know all the people in the hotel. And then, yeah, then eventually,

what happened is we had to go back to normal times because the contestants were getting absolutely smashed out their nut because they were all done at two o'clock and they were bored and by footballers in the 90s. I realized this is us going, I couldn't handle a full-time job. That's why we tell them what we do because... No, no, no. I work more now than I do... No, no, sorry. No, I don't mean full-time job. I don't mean full-time job. This isn't disrespectful to nine to five. This is saying, I would love to be able to do that,

but my mind can't do the same thing every morning. I used to do... When I did nine to five and I really struggled with it and I used to drink too much because I couldn't deal with it. Yeah. And then I started doing what I do now where it's like self-employed finding work and you work weird hours different times blah blah blah blah blah work about three times as much 15 days in a row abroad away from your wife and kids so much more

freedom it's just easier it's just easier I used to be like look at these like idiots doing like nine to five and like that I could even live like that but now as I've become older and slightly more wiser, actually I'm jealous of those people that are in, I'd call a bit more of a stable mental state that they can see the benefits of a routine. And I love a routine now, but I could never do it when I was younger because my head was such a mess. So actually I'm sort of in awe of these people that can live in that structure and work like that. Cause it's a, it is much better for your body. If you know what time you're getting up, you know what time you're going to sleep, you know, the office you're going

to, you know, the people, you know, the route, your life is way less stressful when you know all these things. You're not worrying about where the next jobs coming from. Well, you look at your diary and go, all right, I've got to go to Truro, Torquay, Yeovil and Exeter this week. Nothing wrong with that. Oh God, fuck that. No, but just like the, what track do I get the train to?

I drive down what road is it? Like it's like, no, I'm actually now as I'm older, I could slip into more of a route. I think I've got a daytime show within me. Do you? Necessary. You'd go mad Rob, you'd go fucking mad. Not every day, but one or two days a week. I work the same full-time hours, but I couldn't do the same job. No. If we did this every day, I one or two days a week. I work the same full time hours, but I couldn't do the

same job. No. If we did this every day, I'd kill you. I'd kill you within a week. When we have to do catch ups and we do two weeks in a row in a week, I'm like, oh, here he is again. Do you see that clip that went viral of Dermot O'Leary looking bored on this morning? Oh no, I'd like to see that. Fer McCann's talking about something, I don't know what she's talking about. She's been really genuine, Alison, oh yeah, like that. And then Dermot O'Leary looking bored on this morning. Oh no, I'd like to see that. Fer McCann's talking about something, I don't know what she's talking about. She's been really genuine, Alison goes, oh yeah, like that. And then Dermot starts leaning back and stretching and goes, oh yeah, lovely.

But then people are saying, is it an ant and dick windup? Oh. But if it's not, that's bad, isn't it? Yeah. If your behavior was so... Oh my God. Surely this is a prank. Rob, I need to talk to you about gutter

pro. Oh gutter pro, yeah you had blocked gutter pipe and he popped the camera and had a look did he? Jason. Jason has got some messages for you Rob, because he listened to the podcast. Probably listened to it while the camera pipe was doing all the work was it? Hi Josh, Kelly's just informed me, our last week's podcast shout out with Mr Beckett was an absolute blinder. Can you please inform Mr Beckett there's no ladders needed. No ladders needed? You were telling him to climb a ladder? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

To get another look in the gutter. All you need to do is put the camera up on a stick. Right. Job done. No ladders needed, Rob. Yeah, and that's fine. I'm happy to move with modern times, Josh. However, is the camera an extra cost than the ladder look?

No, it was all very reasonable, Rob. Do you want me to tell you how much it was? Yeah, go on. It was 120 quid or something like that. Literally no idea if that's good or bad. I think that's pretty reasonable. To come out. Pop a camera.

Sort out all your gutters. And he cleared it all, got it all done. Cleared it all, and he's gonna come back once the scaffolding's down to do the back gutters but he can't look at the moment cuz the camera strangely the scaffolding is actually in the way of him being able to do his job up there so he can't do that job because there's too much access to the gutters basically yeah trust your eyes I'm old school get your fucking eyes on it. Jason. It's not fucking about put the camera down and believe in yourself.

You got this. We delighted with that. He just wanted to clear his name. He's not clear with me. Yeah. Just I'll show you the dirt he got out of the Yeah, what was it like peaked? Like mud? I just think it's loads of stuff. You know, we had loads of snow on our roof. Because it was really snow where we lived. Yeah, Where we live. And me and Lou thought our roof was falling off at the weekend, but it was the snow sliding

off the roof. Oh my God. And that got, it was like, what the fuck, it's like it kept on happening, it was all snow falling off, like we were getting bombed. So why did you have so much snow and we had none? Because I live in the countryside, John. But is there an urban thing where the heat of the city means you get less snow am I thick yes of course that's how it works the warmer summer is that you know how ice works don't you zero degrees yeah yeah yeah it's gonna be warmer where you are

yeah because it's just all tarmac you know rob you heard about my boiler you've just taken your jumper off mate very hot over in the But to be fair, where we are is a bit more remote and it's on a bit of a hill. So you get a lot of snow. What else happened this week? I've got a blood blister on my big toe. I'm intolerant to soya, I found out. Oh yeah?

Yeah. Is that a working class thing? Maybe, yeah. No, well no, I've been really healthy this week. I'm back on my fitness, yeah. Going to the gym and eating well. I was doing really well. And then at the weekend I was fancy something sweet.

And I had this Trek Biscoff protein bar thing. Yeah, I've had one of them, yeah, going to the gym and eating well. I was doing really well. And then at the weekend, I was fancy something sweet and I had this Trek Biscoff protein bar thing. Yeah, I've had one of them, yeah. They're not very healthy actually, but if you want something sweet and it gets your protein up, it's not a bad thing to have. Yeah, yeah. But I don't normally have it when I'm being healthy, but it was like my treats have that.

Anyway, I hate it. What a sad little life. That's the kind of treat I give myself, Rob. What a couple of sad cottage cheese c****s. That's what they call us. Yeah, but I've been treating myself for 39 years Josh and Joe. What I need a little bit of discipline in my life. Yeah. Yeah. Do you know what's the enemy of discipline? Choice. Are you moving to North Korea Rob? Absolutely. Give me a chance. Pyongyang. Is that what it's called? Pyongyang? Yeah, same thing. Or is that South Korea? Oh God. We're an absolute

Asian city cancellation hell here. Seoul is South Korea. You've been to Seoul, haven't you? Yeah, I've been there. Yeah. I ate a squid that got killed in front of me and it was still wriggling funny, ain't it? Absolutely awful. Great Olympics. Why was it good?

The 100 meters in Seoul is my favorite ever athletics event. They all juiced up? Yeah, seven of the eight in the final of the men's 100 meters tested positive at some point in their career. Really? And Ben Johnson won it, but he was totally juiced up. He won it by fucking miles. Was it a good race or was it? It was a good race because him and Carl Lewis hated each other. You've read a book about it, haven't you? And watched a documentary. There's a 30 for 30 about it. You'd love it. Okay, Ben Johnson, Carl Lewis, are they both Americans? No, Ben Johnson's Canadian

Right the documentary is fucking brilliant. I actually think steroids. I'm quite into Performance in arts in drugs if it's not against people. Yeah, if you're just running Why not? Let's see how fast we can get us. Yeah, but if it's box it absolutely not because you could harm someone with your new superpowers well Flo Joe who won the hundred and two hundred florence griffis joiner, right? She won the 100 and 200 and what a jump between quite a cool name to the nerdiest name of all time No wonder she wants to be called flojo google her. She looks amazing. She's got the best nails you've ever seen, right? Okay Google her. She looks amazing. She's got the best nails you've ever seen. Right, okay. Flow Joe. Florence. Wow, her hair. Yeah, she's fucking brilliant.

She's got long nails. Oh, she does have long nails. Yeah. She juiced up. She was not juiced up. She never tested positive. But what I will say, Rob, is the times she set in the 100 and 200, when she won by miles and then retired instantly, I have never been beaten. Right. Interesting. Okay, take from that what you will.

No, I'm just presenting the facts, but I think she's incredible. And then she actually died very, she died at 38, fucking hell. She's very muscly. I'd love to watch a documentary about her. Okay. Why do you sound like a pervert now? Sorry, what happened to that the hoods in athletics? You know, like them full-body hoods like Cathy Freeman Yeah, she did that and in Sydney didn't she it's all but then she's a flow

Joe's got a little hat on as well here. I just don't think it makes any difference surely Oh, yeah, when we get nitro on Rob because we're gonna get nitro. We'll ask him because I spent, when I was killing time with him, I spent so much time asking him what it was like, because he raced against Usain Bolt in the Olympics and stuff. Not in the Olympics, the World Championship. He raced against Chase. I don't know what you want. I've got something else to tell you.

Yeah, go on. I've got some kids' toy recommendations as well. Do you know what, Rob? I want you to judge this. Go on. My Christmas tree is still in my front yard. Y you know what Rob, I want you to judge this. Go on. My Christmas tree's still in my front yard. Yard, all right, sorry. I live on Coronation Street.

Your little front, it's not a garden is it? You've got like- No, so what would you call it? Yeah, I know what you mean, it's not a yard. Because yard sounds quite big, it's like a little front- Oh no, I was meaning yard to mean small. The yard, I think America like in the yard. Right, no, so it's just the small bit

in front of our house. The tiny bit of patio that's got like a bin on. Yeah, exactly, the bin patio. The bin patio, yeah. And I said to Pauline, who's two doors down, who's our friend, why has your Christmas tree been taken away and mine hasn't? Yeah. And she said, have you not signed up to garden waste? No. I said no. All right. Hackney Council have brought in a thing where you have to pay 70 pounds a year for garden waste because a lot of people don't use it. Fine. Right. I don't use garden waste so I don't need to sign up to that. Right. Right. Okay. You've got AstroTurf. And I understand that obviously councils are tight. You've got to get the money from somewhere. That, I haven't got a problem with them.

I think we could rip that apart, just stick it in the normal waste, you know what I mean? Right, that's why we've got to pay extra garden waste. Let's not get into that. No, let's get into that. No, Rob, you're about, that's merely... What am I about to do? Amuse-bouche. Amuse-bouche.

Amuse-bouche. Christmas tree counts as garden waste. Right, okay. So if you're not signed up to garden waste, they won bouche. Christmas tree counts as garden waste. Right, okay. So if you're not signed up to garden waste, they won't take your Christmas tree away. Could you not put your Christmas tree in Pauline's yard and give her a tenner? Well, I don't want to get Pauline. I can't suggest that. You can. And Pauline can decide if she wants in. I don't. Pauline has done us too many favors for me to then...

Alright, 20 quid. But then you're creeping up to the 70 for the year, Joe. I know. You might have another Christmas tree. Also, a Christmas tree is an indoor item. It's not in the garden. It's not waste from a garden. It's not garden waste. Correct.

It's the opposite. Correct, Your Honour. It's never been in the garden. It's never been in our garden. It would be insane... Yeah....for me to put it in the garden. It's never been in our garden. It would be insane for me to put it in the garden. So now I've got a fucking massive Christmas tree. I've got no means of getting rid of it.

This is why we don't get a real one. I knew you were going to say that. Just burn it in your garden. Burn it in my garden. Like I'm starting a riot in the 80s. That's what I've been doing. I've been burning my cardboard and all wood in the garden. I haven't got a garden.

I've got a bin yard. I've got a bin patio. I can't stop. You need to move mate. What the fuck am I meant to do? I've got to do it up your ass. You haven't got a garden big enough to burn a tree. Come on mate. You're not living. Rob, do you know how tall our Christmas tree is? Our Christmas tree is eight foot. Eight foot? Yeah, because we've got high Victorian ceilings. That's twice the height of you. So what am I meant to do with this? I can't get rid of it. They've got pick up points. Can you put it in the car?

It's longer than my car. How'd you get it home? We carried it because the Christmas tree selling place is not that far from us. Isn't there a pick up point in some of the- It's fucking miles away, Rob. It's a mile. I'm not walking with a Christmas tree for a mile.

Also as well, when you buy it, they're all squashed up. Rose is ill. Yeah, exactly. It's not squashed up. It's not, it a Christmas tree for miles. Also as well, when you buy it, you're all squashed up. Roses ill. Yeah, exactly, it's not squashed up, it's not, it's not, it's not anymore as well. Adrian and Didier, they've got a van. I don't want to pay Adrian. I'm sure Adrian would do us a favour, he'd fucking put his kids through college about the time he's here. He's not a full-time employee.

Yeah, well he is basically a full-time employee. He's been there every day for about six months. I know he has, Rob. What can he, what's left to do? It's like the fourth bridge, he has to start refurbing it after the finish of the refurb. Do you know what Rob, I made that joke to him on Friday and he didn't know what reference I was making. I said Golden Gate Bridge and he didn't know what I was talking about. I'm fair enough.

I panicked on fourth bridge but in the UK it was fourth bridge. But do you know what's nice Rob? That we're on such a level that we both went for exactly the same joke when we were thinking about Adrian's long months in my house. Right, so what are you going to do then? Well... Chop it up. I might have to hire a zip car van? Look at your phone, I've just sent you what I've got.

I've got like a little metal drum that goes in my garden. Chop up the tree and put it in bit by bit. Rob! What? People would think I was starting a riot! Ha ha ha! That's my favourite thing about the countryside, having space to burn stuff. Look at that! It's lovely, isn't it? Yeah. All my cardboard. All your cardboard. I went to the dump the other day

as well, I love going to the dump. Do you fancy picking up my Christmas tree on the way? If you lived near I would. Bring it to my house, I'll burn it for you. Bring it round, we'll burn it. Stick it on Instagram Live. Do you know what Rob? You're allowed to burn a tree? Surely. What else are they doing? Mulching them down, I'll burn it for you. Bring it round, we'll burn it. Stick it on Instagram Live. Do you know what, Rob? You're allowed to burn a tree? Surely. What else are they doing? Mulching them down, I don't know. I'm not fucking, I'm not buying a mulcher.

Once a year. Get the old mulcher out, the tree's gone. You fucking mulcher. Mulcher, I'm gonna start using that as a, as a, like, derogatory term, you fucking mulcher. Use it when you're playing five-a-side football tomorrow. Let me know how it goes. I don't know, if I should, I've got a blood-beaster.

Do you wanna see my blood-beaster? I'm not tired, I don't know what to do with it. Do you pop it or do you leave it? Oh my God, I tell you who's not dealing with that, Hackney City Council. Oh my God, no. That is horrible. It's like a massive mold, isn't it?

But it didn't even feel like it hurt when I played, I don't know what happened. Is there other people in Hackney that have got this problem? I think if you're in Hackney, you've got bigger problems than a tree in your yard. I mean surely Adrian, if you say to Adrian, can Adrian, do you mind if I shove this in your van

and we drive down to the drop off at the end of the day? Adrian hasn't got a van. Has he work? What's he got? All his stuff's here. But then how does he get it to another job? Robbie's been here forever. Yeah I know but he must have a van. No, I think he gets one at the end of the job.

What? He doesn't need that much. I've never heard of a builder that's not got a van or a car to put their tools in. Oh, do you know what? Actually, he did have a van. Because his number plate's changed. His van's broken down. That sounds like you're making it up to make him sound normal. It does, actually. It's true. What's Didier saying? Didier's gone. We'll be back

with a mirror and when the mirror's out the van stick the tree in. What in his van of glass? Do you know how much bad luck's in that fucking van if I stick a tree in that? Seven years bad luck, seven Christmas wishes. So what are you going to do? I don't know, use it next year? How did you get rid of it last year? They only brought it in in March. They would just normally take it? Yeah. Bastards.

I'd say you stick it in Pauline's yard, give her a tenner next week. I can't. They're not going to go, oh, we had a tree from here last week. I just can't do that to Pauline. She's too good a person. Let her decide. A couple of things. Yeah.

You ever eat a kumquat? You eat little orange things? Disgusting. I don't think I've ever had one. I'd show them on the side. I thought, I like getting the girls new things to try. The side of what? In the shops, on the side in the shops.

In Marks and Spence I thought, I've never had a kumquat. The girls never had a kumquat. Let's kumquat. Yeah, you got them. So how are you meant to eat them? Just like a kind of grape? Yeah, but it's fucking mental. Is that a tiny orange?

And the peel tastes like orange. Like, oh, it's sweet. No, it ain't. Don't write it sweet. Is it for cooking? I think it's more of grape. Yeah, but it's fucking mental. Is that a tiny orange? And the pill tastes like orange. Like, oh, it's sweet. No, it ain't. Don't write it sweet.

Is it for cooking? I think it's more for decoration and for drinks, not to just pop in your mouth. Right, right, right, right, right, yeah. Basically, imagine the inside of a lemon with an orange pill, but you eat all of it. Yeah, yeah. Horrible.

Don't hate it. Couple of kids things. My daughter got massive, one of the massive fake Stanley cups for Christmas, right? You know the big Stanleys? The ice hockey trophy. No, the Stanley cup drink. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The massive one, right? So they're quite well made, but then there's fake ones knocking about off the internet that she got from someone for Christmas. She wanted to take it to school. It is like three pints of water in there with the flimsiest lid ever. And she started bursting into tears tears because I said you can't take that because it's going to spill everywhere right and then that wasn't the way to school this morning and then my other

daughter we dressed in the wrong uniform so she burst into tears at the gate because she was in normal uniform not PE uniform which is not an ideal start to the week but I've got some couple of things we're doing now. On the weekends, they'll have the iPads in the mornings at the weekends. Yeah. Yeah. But the annoying thing about the weekends is we get a line, but then the dogs need to be let out for a week. We've started saying to the kids, you can have your iPads once you've gone downstairs and let the dogs out. Oh my God. And make sure they've had a wee, let them back in again, shut the door. Then you can come up and you've got your iPads. That's your little drawer. And it is fucking wonderful.

Do you know what you should play Rob? Who let the dogs, that could be the theme tune. door then you can come up your video iPads that's your little drawer and it is fucking wonderful. Do you know what you should play Rob? What? Who let the dogs, that could be the theme tune. I like your thinking but I want it to be quiet so I'm not fully awake and I can go back to sleep and I could have to hum of them on Roblox. They'd come up and then you'd go who let the dogs out and they go me, me, me and then you give them the iPads.

No they will go where's my iPad? Is it fully charged? Where is my iPad? Like that in that tone of where is it? Why she got more charged than me? She's got 98% I've got 95. Give a fuck mate. And oh, this is good. Toy good toy for the kids. Yeah, they've got off their cousins. It's called a bitsy. Yeah, right. Google Disney bitsy figures. How you spelling bitsy? B I T Z E E. This isn't an advert. We're not getting paid for this, but fucking should be. Well, yeah. Basically, they're like this little like, it's the size of sort of like a wedding ring box, but a

bit bigger. Yeah. And you flip it open and there's this flickery thing. It's really difficult to explain. Heartbreak if you give that to your girlfriend. Yeah, it depends what she's into. But it flickers and it's like a bit of like thing that flickers and it's got a little like illustration on it and you tap on it. It's a bit like a Tamagotchi almost that what you do when you tap it or stroke it, you can like get points

and then other characters get unlocked. Yeah. And my seven year old's been playing with it for hours of messing about. So it's like 25 quid and you can unlock 30 different characters. But she absolutely loved it kept her really busy. And it was quite interactive with her and her sister. And her sister's got one as well. Maybe I'll try and talk my daughter into that. So it's

like 25 quid and then it's like you've got to buy batteries, but genuinely really good with sometimes this plasticky sort of like toy stuff is shit and last about 30 seconds. But genuinely really good with sometimes this plasticky sort of like toy stuff is shit and lasts about 30 seconds But she really enjoyed it and you do little games to unlock the characters and they really like it and they check it after school At night, so I think it's pretty good. Can I make a recommendation? Go on if we're doing it. I've got my phone thing. Do you remember me talking about my phone thing your phone thing? Oh the blocker so you don't go on apps? Yeah It's fucking great. So what you've been blocking out

Enjoying that squash lovely lovely squash Still going well, yeah you talk I've had to have a drink and I know It's nil by metal. I would make you feel awkward. So you've been blocking out apps? Text, WhatsApp, everything except, so I have on, phone, so people can call me. Yeah. Maps, Spotify. So that's search engine?

No, I haven't even got that. Oh really? So I've got nothing except maps, phone, music. Okay, that's good. Can you send me the link to that thing? Yeah. So is it an app on your phone or do you have to actually put it in a thing? It's an app on your phone.

Yeah. You kind of put it on your phone, like you pay it. So you click on the app. Yeah. So it's that app there. Yeah. You click on it. And you pick what you want to disable.

Yeah, you set up and then you scan it like you're doing, paying for something. Yeah. It locks your phone until you scan it again on the block. Doesn't lock your phone, it locks the apps that you- Locks all those apps. Cause you could do that, you could leave that downstairs. You leave that downstairs.

So it's a really conscious thing. And if you come in the house and go, boom, when I get home from work, I turn them off. Yeah. So you have a bit of TikTok on the tube, on your commute or whatever, or the train. And you know what? When I do it, it makes me go, I'm doing this and this is my time when I do my phone.

Yeah. And genuinely, I feel a lot less stressed. I'm gonna go. Do you know what? I didn't do it on Saturday morning. Yeah. Like WhatsApp started coming in and my mate started goading me saying, oh, Robbie Williams film hasn't done very well.

Yeah. You really like Robbie Williams because I really like Robbie Williams as a human being. Sorry, so this is a text message from your year eight form class. What's going on? I know. Give a fuck. I started defending him. No, he's still a little fucking rat. I tell you what, delete, block his contact. Do you know who it was? Will Briggs. Yeah, block his contact fucking Will Briggs.

He said you're the only person that likes Robbie Williams. I love Robbie Williams. I love Robbie Williams. Robbie Williams, one thing you can't say about him is that he's not popular. Very likable, some good songs. He isn't a musical genius like Paul McCartney or John Lennon. But he's a very interesting, very open, very positive. I tell you what he is, born entertainer.

He's a born entertainer. Charismatic, the X-Factor, he's got the bloody X-Factor. Yeah, he's got the bloody X-Factor. He's got the XXX-Factor. Exactly, and he does a lot of good use. His art is funny on Instagram. He does a lot of good stuff for mental health. Sure he's a monkey in his biopic,

which is fucking mental, but. But you've got to respect that. I like it. I want to watch it. I want to watch it. So I was going through all this, Rob, in my head. Yeah. And I was thinking,

this is why I don't need to be on WhatsApp at 11 a.m. on Sunday morning. So you thought it, but didn't send it. Well, no, I did send it, but then I was like, I should have bricked my phone because all of that is a waste of time. Exactly, finally you've got a way to block out hate towards Robbie Williams from your friendship group.

Exactly. And that's what's been making you angry. Exactly Rob. Well glad that you found a way to stop that. Yeah, exactly, so I blocked my phone, I didn't put on Robbie Williams music. I never listened to it, but I like him as a cultural figure. Anyway, I'll send you a link.

Should I say what it is or is that too much of a promotion? Oh no, not if you enjoy doing it. I think that's fine. It's called Brick and it's really changed things for me in the last few days. We'll have to talk about stuff we like to do. Do you know what I mean? Don't worry about that.

If they want to sponsor the show. Right, Rob, small business. Oh no, don't say that. I might forget shit. Oh my god, did we say about how amazing one of them had gone down? Um, should we save that for Friday? Yeah, why not? As a, um, uh, oh, what do they call it in radio? Don't know, Rob, you're the one who's in radio.

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