Rooster Teeth Podcast - Adults Only - #656
Episode Date: July 6, 2021Join Gustavo Sorola, Brian Gaar, Eric Baudour, and Andrew Rosas as they discuss the 90s, The Sopranos, Gen X, forget it was 4th of July weekend, what their dads knew and more on this week's RT Podcast.... This episode was recorded June 30, 2021 and is sponsored by MeUndies (http://meundies.com/roosterteeth), Purple Mattresses (http://purple.com/rooster10 and use promo code rooster10), OMEN Oasis (http://bit.ly/oasisrtp), and ExpressVPN (http://expressvpn.com/rttv). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Steve podcast. I'm Gus. I'm Brian. I'm Eric. I'm Andrew. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Go buy it.
Buy it. Buy the shirt. There's a mug. I want the mug. They let me make I drank coffee out of it this morning buy it so they let me make more
This is what that this is what I got so buy it
This is what I got I've been here since the beginning
Yeah, and this is what I got this shirt. There's there's some sweatpants
I couldn't wear them because the writing was on the left like we have to sit like this so you'd see it
Yeah, didn't make any sense. I'm doing a chorus doing a chorus line. It's like a nice kick line.
I almost died, right?
Like literally two minutes ago, right?
Before we started here, we're at the studio,
and the studio's been empty for a long time.
And when you got here, Brian, you commented
on how clean the bathroom was working.
Oh, just me.
And before we start, I normally go and take a pre-podcast
piss show.
Way to go.
I walked in there, because I was like,
oh, we only got a couple minutes before we get started, run out to the bathroom.
In front of the urinal, there's like a little black pad,
I guess, to keep it from stepping in all the piss
that puddles up right there.
I put one foot on it to step,
to secure myself as well as I was walking up to the urinal,
and it moved.
The whole thing just slipped.
Well, there's so much piss puddled up
when he's supposed to do it.
My left leg flew out from under me.
I had to grab onto the stall in the wall to stop myself from falling.
I was like, if I had fallen here, how long would it have been till someone came and checked
on me?
Docked out, face first in the urinal.
It just keeps flushing.
Constant.
Well, the pee hasn't dried since the pandemic.
Yes, just now there.
It's a menace. I almost I almost died. So it's been a while since
being in public restrooms and restrooms with a bunch of people. We've been going to Austin
FC games because that's a professional sport here in Austin. And I said, I'll support
whatever professional sport comes.
It's fun.
It's not fun.
It's waiting in line to go into a bathroom
where it just, the stink and the stench
is like a sense memory from when you're a child
and it's the first time you walk in and you go,
ah, what is this?
I don't want to do this.
Yeah, and it's back to doing that.
And so I think the goal for me is to try to bring that
to this bathroom here.
I want to bring that experience.
Yeah, I want to bring that vibe.
So that's why I pissed underneath the black thing.
Slip mask down.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Is it, so I haven't been on Austin FC game yet.
Is it, you go into a big room and then get the
privilege of going in a trough?
But it is, no, because it is, the 21st century, they've done away with troughs and ice
inside the troughs.
Oh, thank you.
No, these are all, it's crazy.
These are all, they're urinals with like walls next to, like, not just sort of like,
jut it out, like little half things so you can still kind of like, see the guy next to like, not just sort of like jut it out like little half things
so you can still kind of like see the guy next to you.
They're like boom, like way out.
You're like, oh, I'm like secured in my space.
What if you're claustrophobic, is it scary?
I know.
If you slipped on a mat there, you'd be able to brace yourself.
I mean, actually, you could probably brace all four
and still you go for it.
Like a cat. Yeah, I'm sorry. We have all four and still, you go for it. Like a cat, so we'll give it to the camera.
I'm sorry, we have a picture.
I took a picture to show the body.
I thought we just had that.
No, I took a picture and I sent it to the broadcast.
This is after I slipped and I fixed the mat.
I should have left it how it was.
I was so frazzled.
Fix it with your hands.
Yeah, why?
Bulk.
No, I didn't.
Okay. I stepped on it.
Yeah, I fixed it with my tongue.
What did you think? I pushed it with my nudge,
doing my toe.
That's one of those things. That happened to me kind of in the kitchen,
except not with pee, but like I slipped on one,
and like one of my legs like shot out
and like a day later I still felt like what the fuck?
You know my hamstring or something.
Oh, I'm just in my 40s. That's how things that's how things feel. I feel that to the end of my day.
That's permanent. I'm different now. I told my wife about us. I'm like, oh, we're pre-taping.
The Iri said it. The recipe podcast. Yeah, but I said it. It's a different
and Gus and I'm like, oh, we're pre-taping the podcast and Gus, but I said it. It's a good thing for me. And Gus.
And I'm like, oh, we're pre-taping the podcast.
And Gus asked me to be on.
She's like, oh, cool, who else is on the cast?
And I said, it's me.
It's Gus.
It's Andrew Rosas and Brian Gar.
And she just went.
What?
Is she not a fan?
This is, if we're shooting for a demographic, it's not this way.
I am excited about this lineup.
I said, yeah.
And that's all that matter.
Yeah.
You're right.
Your wife was like, what's the opposite of a dream team?
I guess we are the Washington General's of Rooster Teeth.
I'm openly under a world she was.
It was just like, hey, here's a bunch of white guys in like their 30s and 40s.
Probably gonna talk about how traffic's bad now.
And then Gus told me before we started and he went, I should save for the podcast.
So now we're going to talk about it.
I gotta talk about it before you talk about that.
I'm glad you all are here because you all are the group that will get my references.
I told this story on Monday's podcast.
We had Kayla on
that podcast. We did a live stream last week and Kayla was on that live stream and some people were
talking about Paul Sheer. Sorry, you have to listen to this again. Some people were talking about
Paul Sheer and I thought they were talking about Paul Shefer and I was really confused and then I
figured it out. I was like, oh, sorry, I thought you guys were talking about Paul Shefer. Kayla said,
who? I said, oh, you know, Paul Sheaefer, he was the band leader for David Letterman,
and she followed up with who?
Uh-uh, David Letterman.
You put it off the air that long.
I was like, David Letterman, the late night talk show host,
and she asked, is that the one with the chin?
And I was like, this is, this is, oh.
That's why I was like, I need an old man podcast
to like cleanse myself after that.
David Letterman on TV. Yeah.
What's a TV?
I watched it on my phone.
Oh.
So, yes, I am glad that we have the dream team here.
So, because we all know who David Letterman is.
He didn't go off the air that long, what's that?
Yeah, but like who was five, six years?
Yeah, but five, six years ago, it was like 11.
So, like, you know, who's watching that?
My favorite thing when they struck the set, you know,
they showed them out back just throwing it at the dumpster.
Like the f**k story, you just see it,
like, moving out of the trash, like, well, f**k this.
It's so amazing, just how f**king-
We only fleeting, yeah.
Everyone moves on.
The second something ends, everyone's just like,
well, I'm done with that forever.
And his key card is locked out of Sidiya.
That's like immediately.
I think he threw that key card in the dumpster
as soon as he clogged.
He just went, I'm fucking done forever.
With his mistress employee,
don't know who he is anymore.
Yeah, good bye.
They've moved on.
2015, he was on there for 33 years.
Yeah.
I mean, that's older than Kayla by 13 years probably.
I'll tell a funny story.
I won't name it, but a friend of mine
like wrote for him like in the sort of,
I think mid 2000s or a bit.
He had sort of given up already at that point.
Sure.
And he was like, he was in the mid,
it was sort of known that he was having an affair
with one of the staffers or whatever.
And so they would spend all day writing comedy for him. He would, he would come out after he was having an affair with one of the staffers or whatever. And so they would spend all day writing comedy for him.
He would come out after he was done,
just strike all of it and just sort of get like improv basically,
or just like all this shit they've been working on done after.
I have writers at that point.
Yeah, no, it wasn't.
Dump it, dump it.
We're going to do the mailbag.
I'm going to talk to Paul and we'll get to end there.
Stupid people, tricks. Bring on Tom Hanks. Yeah, dump it. We're gonna do the mail bag. I'm gonna talk to Paul. And we'll get to end it.
Stupid people tricks.
Bring on Tom Hanks.
Let's go home.
Yeah.
We're good.
White stripes will come out, play a song.
Let's go.
Let's go.
It's fine.
We're gonna have the black crow's on.
He's from the 30th.
Now we're talking.
Hey, Gracie, do you know who Paul Schaefer is?
Hello.
Okay, thank you.
Gracie is our new intern broadcast producer intern. This is like her
first day. David Letterman is. Okay. All right. She's working broadcast. Yeah. You're
talking about that the Paul Schaefer thing and that got me thinking about Paul Reiser because
he was gone for a long time. And now he was back in Whiplash, but that was like six years ago, seven years ago.
See, and stuff again.
Paul Reiser back?
I don't know.
It is Paul Reiser.
Mad about you, Paul Reiser.
Yes, but you're Paul Reiser.
But here's the thing, you say mad about you,
and you think that that's going to be a cultural touchstone.
It's not, it's fucking not.
I don't know why, because that show was gigantic.
Right.
When it aired.
For a couple of years, it felt like it was.
It was supposed to be in like that contemporary of years, it felt like it did.
It was supposed to be in like that contemporary universe
with it didn't across over with like friends,
like, friends and sign felt.
So why is it not on TV?
I did Helen Hunt just buy it all out and go, no.
Well, may I offer that it suffered the same fate?
And I don't know if this is the case.
It suffered the same fate as Reno 9-1-1,
which is like, oh, that should be a,
like everyone, that should have had such cult status,
like after the fact in the era of streaming,
but it just didn't stream anywhere,
like maybe Mademoiselle just did not get streaming rights
in a bank, and so it just, to the ether,
it just like just disappeared out of HBO Max.
It looks like...
It looks like...
It's like, what's up?
Now it's on Prime Video, question mark.
See, you put Mademois on Netflix or at HBO Max people will get people pick up right where they left
Yeah, I love that it's a shared universe with friends. It's insane sign felt detective much from us
V is on first one reason like to solve things Phoebe
Lisa Kudrow started on Matt about you that's right as the waitress who was like I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I And then she tries to order from Phoebe, but like Phoebe doesn't know who that is. Hey guys, what's up? We're all in our mid-30s or later.
So thank you for watching.
I'm sure you've podcasted.
And the creamer even has a pop in on a mat about you episode.
That's awesome.
The slide in.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think he deals with a heckler in that episode.
That was out of it one episode for so good.
That's weird, I keep searching for it
for finding a different thing.
Yeah, no one in and it's streaming anywhere.
They went scorched earth on the entire series
because of that one episode.
Wild.
That's good.
I like this.
What do we talk about next-Hale Street Blues?
Oh, man.
What's on the top?
It's a proper file.
It's a proper rock.
Reno 9.
A proper rock.
21 Jump Street, but not the movies.
I feel like John Oliver did a bit
where he talked about cop rock a few weeks ago.
Yes, really?
Yeah, highlighting it.
I was like, do people not remember this was a show?
I think they don't.
It was so like, and also for it to make it
through all the levels of network TV,
like all the people who have,
if it was like fucking USA network or felt like okay or what,
but this was like what ABC?
And it seems like insane.
Let's just do it with puppets, you know.
It insane, great, hey, Grace,
do you know what Copper Rock is?
Thank you.
Type.
But what you were saying before.
Oh yes, Gus told me before we started,
before he did the ads, which are beautiful by the way.
You should sign up for all of them.
That was shocking.
He just came in cold and went bang these,
it was like crusty when crusty walks in.
Hey, that's what I cast every time.
It was perfect.
Hey, I'm such a mouth.
Hey, it's such a mouth.
It's like show mouth.
It's like show mouth.
Show mouth.
I'm being bottom boom.
It really was so fast, but he went,
you know what?
He, he, he, he, he,
You wanna recreate it?
You know what I don't understand?
Deodorant.
I couldn't even, do you know what I don't understand?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Here's the deal.
I feel like it's one of those things
that nobody ever explained to me.
It's just like one day you go through puberty and your parents are like,
you smell bad, start using this.
And then it's like, have I been using it wrong for 30 years now?
Because first of all, there's so many different kinds of deodorant.
Right.
And I, like lately I've been in my own head about it.
Like, are you supposed to put the deodorant on after you have your shirt on?
Or do you put it on first and then put the shirt on?
But then how do you keep the shirt clean? I use one that's a gel. Like, do I have to let my armpits dry and then put your shirt on or you put it on first and then put the shirt on, but then how do you keep the shirt clean?
I use one that's a gel,
like do I have to let my armpits dry
and then put my shirt on
because then you get like the goop
all in your underarms of your shirt.
And you eventually ruin shirts like this
because they get stained.
That's the problem.
So I just like,
there's just so many assumptions that I've made
about deodorant over the years that I don't know.
And then recently I found out I've been using
women's deodorant for like five years. I didn't know this, like I ordered some on Amazon and I did change the description so it says like
women's deodorant on it.
This is what happens when you liberal print over.
This is what we got.
Women's deodorant.
But then what's the point?
Like once a woman's deodorant, then men's deodorant.
Right, it's something.
It works fine.
Have you ever run out of soap
and you have to use your significant others
like body wash or something
and you're like, this is nice.
It's great.
I don't like flowers all the time.
And they're all, I don't smell like leather and bullwhip.
I'm not saying anything like, yeah.
Like, women's deodorant is called secret.
It's like something that's like, you whisper.
It's very hush in our game.
Like men's deodorant.
It's like your gun metal. Like, I mean's very hush in our game. Like men's not your gun metal.
Like if I need a speed stick.
Like a speed stick.
Speed stick is sick.
I do do you.
I use speed stick and that's a coolant hell name.
Yeah.
Yo, this one, this is for speed.
This is the deodorant that makes you go fast.
Old spice, vomit and pine needles.
Yeah.
You're gonna like our drinks don't taste good,
our deodorants, yeah, there's all this sort of forced
like ruggedness on it.
And I'm the softest man that's ever lived in my family.
Like, generationally speaking.
100%.
The softest man that's ever lived it,
like there's no, like just, my dad did all like this stuff,
like it's all working on cars.
You know what I do all this stuff?
And I'm like kind of figuring out how to do that stuff now,
but also like by my age now, I was 12 when my dad was like
35.
So like, yeah, I can hardly take care of it is a miracle. I made it here today
I was thinking about that earlier today. I was walking I was walking in my house
And I was thinking about how excited I was about the new he man Netflix show that's coming out
Yeah, and then I thought when my dad was my age. I was 22 years old living in an apartment in South Austin
I can't imagine my dad walking through his house. He's like, oh, he man's coming back. It's really cool.
I'm happy that how he duty is being rebooted or something.
Like yeah.
That's the reason.
A ridiculous juvenile life.
My grandfather was a cowboy.
My father was like in state law enforcement.
Yeah.
And I tell dick jokes.
Yep.
And I don't know.
You want to see shit of your own name?
For God's sake.
My dad was into theater and stuff, but he was still, I think it's also generational because he No, no, no, no, no. You want to see should of your own names. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, he just had some sort of basic life skills that I just never got. That's interesting.
My dad knew how to work on cars, but that's it.
All stuff around the house, anything around the house,
my mom was in charge of.
You had to fix stuff, rewire stuff, do stuff.
My dad was all car stuff, and then I apparently got
above this thing, because I work on cars and do
house shit and work on that all the time. But all house stuff, it I just got, I apparently got both of those things because I work on cars and do house shit and like work on that all the stuff all the time. But all like house
stuff, it was just like, hey, for some reason this like light switch isn't working here.
My dad just like, I'll call somebody. Like it was just like, I was like, I'll get him
electrician and to look at it. No one here is dying today. Yeah. Like fishing around
in a light socket or switch. Electricity stuff is the thing that my dad kind of like did.
He can do like some like soft wiring and it's like you know like not like a ton of stuff but when it came to like
heavy duty wiring he's like I'll call someone because I don't want to die. He's like there's just something about I like that healthy respect for electricity
Yeah, which we in Texas now are forced to have you was prey to the whole you was worship the electricity distribution center
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Do not become addicted to the electricity
for when it is gone, you will only,
what the fuck's the rest of the quote?
You only spited, You only resent it.
Resent it's absence.
Yeah, beautiful.
Thank you, electricity.
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Yeah, there was a the most recent episode of Rick and Morty that aired on Sunday there was a reference to Highlander the
old movie from 1986 Christopher Lambert Highlander and after we're gonna
watch it my wife Chris we says I never watched Highlander doesn't have Sean
Connery in it I was like yeah yeah I remember lacking it when I was in high school
she's like we should watch that and I was, this is gonna be the greatest thing ever.
But now in the back of mind, I'm like, wait, did Islander actually suck
and I only liked it because I was a teenager?
Eee-da.
Frayed soda.
Yeah, I know, absolutely.
Blow.
Oh, no.
It's not good.
Isn't Sean Connery supposed to be a Spaniard in that?
One of his many ethnicity.
Okay, yeah.
And he makes one, one Sanchez Villalobus Ramirez.
He is a Scotsman playing a Spaniard with a Egyptian name.
Or he's a Scotsman playing an Egyptian
with a Spanish name.
So cool.
And with a very thick Scottish accent.
He makes no effort.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
He's coming in straight just viewing.
He's just doing Sean Connery.
Sean Connery doesn't do anyone but him.
Like there's no like variation. You're paying to get Sean Connery. Yeah, Sean Connery doesn't do anyone but him. Like there's no like variation.
You're paying to get Sean Connery.
So you haven't watched it yet?
You didn't sit down and put it on.
It's on, I looked it up.
It's on prime video.
So we can watch it for free,
but we just haven't gotten around to it yet.
Can I lay some also some knowledge
that I recently learned about Christopher Lambert
is that he is super blind.
Like Ken, like he he is super blind. Like, can't really, like he is,
he is virtually legally blind.
So blind that he can't wear contact lenses.
Like, he has to wear glasses.
So if you watch Highlander and any of the Highlander sequels
that he's in, his sword fighting is absolute fucking dog shit
because he is not allowed to wear glasses
but still has to fight with swords.
So it's a lot of like editing to cover up the fact
that he cannot see two inches in front of his face.
Have you ever heard that they hooked up
car batteries to those swords to make them spark
for the hit each other?
Yeah.
And they had like the wires running down the actors clothing.
That's the sound safe as hell.
So I've ever heard.
That's like when they went, yeah, you know,
there's like 28 Milo and Otis's
because we just kept throwing them in rivers.
And it's like, that's what the fuck.
Yeah, you know, we hooked up these swords to car batteries.
Oh my God, this must be the same guy.
This is like, this is that,
those like, buster point,
a buster-keyton sound effect.
Special effects where it's just, you know,
the hole in the window falls.
Really appreciate the buster point dexter reference. That was pretty good. No, it's okay, no know, the hole in the window falls. Really appreciate the Buster Point Dexter reference.
That was pretty good.
No, it's okay.
No one understood what that was.
That was a good idea.
Now, back there, who are the New York dolls?
Do you know?
No.
Oh, say yes.
Very influential.
That, the hooking up a sword to a car battery is an idea made of cocaine.
That is just like, I would like us.
We are, for this special effect, we are going to give you a katana, hook it up to a car battery
and run the wire down your shirt.
And now you're going to hit each other with your sword.
It's ready, action.
And one of the guys is, can't see.
I want to go.
It's blind.
You imagine the bad guys in the moment,
so the whole thing is like,
you know, you're home.
Yeah.
Oh, you're well incredible.
It's bad.
I hope it doesn't rain during this shoot.
I would love to have been like the insurance underwriter
for that movie, like,
what are you guys doing out there?
That's pretty bold of you to believe that they had an insurance under...
I'm afraid.
It was like a major...
There's a lot of weird things
about that movie, like to say Christopher Lambert,
but I didn't know that.
He couldn't speak English.
Queen was signed up.
They were supposed to write one song.
Freddie Mercury loved the concept so much.
Queen wrote three songs for the movie.
I like the height of their career.
Yeah, that's so cool.
By the way, Princess of the Universe,
the main song from that movie, is a fucking jam.
That's a rule.
That's on rules.
Yeah.
It's pretty awesome.
It's a Princess of the Universe who wants to live forever and just a kind of magic.
I think there are three songs they came up with for Highlander.
I think that's the order of their rocking also.
Yeah, absolutely.
It's like back to the future and he and Louis, you got power, love, and then the quality diminishes exponentially.
Yes, back in time doesn't have quite the same zest in the chorus.
If they could have, they would have made it back to the future for, right?
I don't know.
You don't think they would have?
Three was sucked.
Three were terrible.
I hate it. Three? That doesn't matter at all. I feel like if it would have made money, they would have. Three was, three sucked. Three was terrible. I hated three.
That doesn't matter at all.
I feel like if it would have made money,
they would have made it.
I don't have to have definitely one.
I'm gonna have to do it.
How do you do it at the box office?
Cause that really depends.
Cause I feel like two just printed money.
Yeah.
And so like,
Cause we were so excited after one
and you had to wait.
Yeah, cause you actually got the B continued.
Cause they were calling,
they're Baybrooth calling their shots. But but the first one is like this is going to be
Enormous. Yeah, so we know we're making a number two after this. Yeah, I mean they filmed two and three simultaneous
I remember that. Well, they knew they knew they were getting three movies out of that thing from the get go
That's awesome back to the future two box office was $336 million back to future three was 246
Okay, so we're so it dove quite a bit.
It's still a blockbuster.
Huge blockbuster for what?
Is it 1990?
Yeah.
But it was kind of their rise of skywalker.
Like, you can kind of see.
It was, oh, it was the best one.
Yeah.
Yeah, the movies went 389, 336, 246.
It's like, yeah.
Ooh, that jumped, uh, dude.
100 mil.
389 for the first one. Yeah. on the late 80s. That's a good
The first yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like on a new IP man. That was the movie. Oh big time movie big time
I like
Michael J Foxx was established, but wasn't like
Family ties. He was like the Republican son that was just sort of like the punchline of the show.
He was also the replacement for that part.
Yeah, cause they shot it with,
they shot the whole movie with,
what's the guy's name?
What's the guy's name?
Redhead.
Oh my God.
Eric Stolt.
Eric Stolt, so excited.
I was too confused.
And Ralph Machio passed on it before that.
He was like, I didn't get it.
He was like, it was a kid in a time traveling car.
He was just like, you know.
Yeah, why would you want to do a movie
about a kid who can time travel?
Boy, that sounds like it sucks.
But he had broken-
He had flight to the navigator.
Oh.
Time travel and kid movie that.
All right.
He had kind of broken out on family ties,
but even that like Meredith Baxter Bernie
was like the big name.
As my parents always reminded me
when I was just, you know,
couldn't stop talking about Alex P. Keaton there.
Yeah, but she was the big star.
She was the big star.
And then the dad was in tremors.
Oh yeah, Michael Gross.
He's been in all the tremors.
And all the tremors there.
And the tremors keep showing up around this fucking guy.
I think he has something to do with the tremors.
He might be a real tremor magnet.
Yes, man.
He might be the actual tremor.
Has, I think, guys, the call is coming from inside out.
He's the tremor prime.
He's the tremor prime.
Man, that guy, like in the past 30 years
has just like written his entire,
his whole dinner ticket on the tremors franchise.
And good for good good on him
tremors one fucking
Great movies
Trimmers grace you know what tremors is
That's fine. I hope you care. Trimmers is a great example of like a
Very unique time in movies where you could have something that was both a little bit of horror, a little bit of action and comedy
that was like can't be without it being soy banter garbage.
Yeah, it's kind of post-Grimlins
where you can have a little bit of everything.
Yeah, you could have a little bit of everything
and it worked.
It just worked magnificently.
There were a few movies like that.
I think of the ones that come to mind are like critters
and yet child's play.
Yeah, yeah.
It's like kind of like a mashup of all of these things
and I've won horror movies were so big in the 80s
that it felt like they started adding
or someone add more time to it.
Let's take you to add a little more comedy.
Yeah, comedy's were huge in the in like the 70s.
I think that that's the big thing is that through the 80s
like that horror genre kind of took off,
but it's like it had so much hangover from like the 70s with like these,
like with just big comedy stuff,
that it was so easy to just go,
well, you don't have to have all these scares.
It could sort of be funny, and it like it worked.
I think people were just really except police academy
was a whole fucking franchise.
They mean like six of those.
There's so many.
Right.
And like the premise is these guys suck at being cops.
Yep.
Wow, really, who could have foreshadowed any of this stuff?
Well, and you had Steve Gutenberg,
who was just a rocket attached to his back.
I mean, he was huge.
This is my favorite episode of this podcast.
This is, this is your 35 year older,
you probably love this.
Yeah, I hope that's a mask.
Us yelling at the end,
turn reminds me, a couple of years ago,
I was at a Giants and A's game at San Francisco and they were it was a thing where
they were quizzing the audience and they they got on a couple of young like
girls in their 20s who was this band named the band and they played power of
love and they had no fucking idea and the whole stadium was just out
right like they boom. They speed the police escort to their soul
Mad yeah, it was like yeah, it was like the giant Steve Barton
After I was talking to Kayla about David Letterman
I was telling a story about Roger Waters and I said wait you don't know who Roger Waters do you she said no
I said he's a it was a pink Floyd and she goes was that the band that sang porcelain sugar on me?
That's awesome. That's so sick.
So sick.
So sick.
Totally different.
Totally different.
Yeah, fuck.
Yeah, fuck.
Yeah, I'm playing the drone.
We love to see it with one arm, yep.
Yep, that's so cool.
Very good.
That guy, way to go,
death leopard drummer with one arm.
That drummer is a testament to that band's unwillingness
to have uncomfortable commerce.
That's excellent.
You know what I mean? Because I feel like. to that band's unwillingness to have uncomfortable conversations. That's actually...
You know what I mean? Cause like, I feel like...
Yeah, can you name those conflict diverse bands? I can't.
What is this?
Exactly.
You can't do the job anymore. I'm sorry. He can't do it.
But he probably started it with them in Cornwall or wherever it's
I
Wouldn't want to have that conversation with him. He can stay worked up leopard. We're not rush
We're not fucking leds up when it's fine. Can he keep a beat?
That's fine great. We'll get him a bunch of puddles
That's fine great. We'll get him a bunch of puddles. We're gonna get a bunch of puddles. So learn how to use his feet. It's fine. Oh man, I know
you're doing stand-up again and I don't know that there's a whole big wheelhouse
for deaf leopard bits anymore but fuck me. You got to put that inside. That was
fucking good. That being out of sync has never stopped me from
eating. Having my finger as far away from the pulse as my possibly can has never
determined.
So it's deaf leopard.
Hello.
My stand up philosophy is 10 of...
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a change other than me.
Yeah, my stand up philosophy is five dudes in the back will really be.
Oh yeah, that's all you come up to me in tears and want to hug.
What's a 10% or a 10% or that's my niche.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If we can conflict averse.
Well, so fucking funny.
I'm not going to tell him.
I'm not tell fuck.
I mean, you'll go when it's all.
Yeah, we're not practicing today.
Oh, it's fine. I'll just hang out in the studio.
You either got one band with the guy who started it.
You just can't get along with anybody ever.
And fire, you know, just goes through.
Yeah, or it's like you two and deaf leprears.
Like this is a line up.
They're in the back of the tour bus.
Just like, okay, maybe our albums will just start to suck.
And they'll just kind of naturally work out.
We'll just kind of just band. And that drummer comes back. I have an idea. It's called porcelain sugar on me and they went oh
It can't be heavy enough to where you need to
Maybe that you put in your ice tea
It's not a big bag.
Oh man, oh that's so, I love this bit.
This was, oh man, I'm so happy.
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I still like it.
Oh man.
They were in like the rock and roll hall of fame.
Yeah.
Let's see, deaf leopard.
I guess they're still together.
They're probably touring just on the back of photograph now.
Yeah.
I, I, you occasionally see and have come across,
you know, now that things are opening back up
and bands are starting to play live shows.
You're starting to see like more reunion concerts
from your death leopards at all.
These kind of like 80s like bands
who, for some reason feel like in my mind
actually probably none of them
stop playing during the pandemic.
They were all still like touring. But now I'm seeing more like, you mind, actually probably none of them stopped playing during the pandemic. They were all still touring,
but now I'm seeing more advertisements
for like reunion concerts.
And it is incredible how there's like,
you'll have like a band of seven,
or five to seven members,
three originals who never left the 80s.
Like still, just, the heroin goes back,
but like the bleach didn't ever stop,
the bleaching never stops.
And they're like Hulk Hogan, like the hair and the job.
Exactly.
And then there's like three new guys who are in there,
like 20s to 30s who are also just like standing next to,
I'll stint some of their grandpa, like, and like,
guys, it's Queen's Reich.
Like, it's not the second.
I don't know that it is.
My favorite was, I was, we were, my buddy and I were going to see the black crows.
And the, the, I loved the way they promoted the show, was they were going to play the entire
Shake Your Money Maker album, which is the first one with, she talked to angels, but my
favorite was a, a notice at the bottom saying,
there won't be any jamming.
They're just scrawling.
Yeah.
They're not like what are you contractually obligated
to not jam, because they do like to jam.
They do just like to get out of fucking jam.
They're just gonna play the fucking hits,
just like you remember.
Yeah, exactly.
There'll be no riffing, there'll be no long extended cuts.
It felt like obviously the promoter insisting no jamming you're not fish yeah man I
want to see I went to ACL years and years ago when Tom Petty played RIP Tom Petty
played and it was like threatening to rain all day and he's like the headlining
set at the end of the night and comes out of course,
plays the hits, like plays your Tom Petty Faves.
Whatever Tom Petty song you're thinking of
in your mind right now, he plays.
Just absolutely knocks it out of the park,
but then it starts raining.
And so they're like, okay, so Tom Petty goes off stage
and everyone's like, oh, do we leave?
Do we stick around to see if this clears up?
So we're like, okay, no, we're gonna stick stick it out. We're going to wait for him to like come back out and sure enough, like it lets lights, you know, bring
lets up enough for Tom Petty to come out and then comes out and we're just like, yeah, he's coming back to play more hits. Just lay down the
jams. Let's hear it. Just goes on like comes back out and plays like a 10 minute new song.
Yeah!
And everyone's like, uh, guess.
Yeah.
This is from Mud Cry.
No, exactly.
This is not worth missing the traffic over here.
Truly, truly.
Like, you could feel like a collective, at least in my, like,
the energy just around has been like, yeah.
We saw Neil Young at Jazz Fest like a couple years ago, and he did the exact opposite.
The whole set, and it was raining, and it's like, you know, on a fucking race track in
New Orleans, so it's just raining raining and he is just playing song after song
bitching about Monsanto. Like the whole house girls.
Oh, see, but one, five, sure, two, yeah. Monsanto sucks, Neil Young. Like we get it.
And then at the very end, he played rockin' in the free world. Which you're happy,
but you have to sit through a lot of Monsanto bashing to like get to, and I'm on the same page, but yeah, it was,
he has a grumpy old man.
This concert was a pamphlet followed by one song I liked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I shouldn't have bought all that Monsanto stockboard.
That's really, really weird though.
Oh no!
I saw Tom Petty in concert in San Diego
three days before he died. Woo.
Yeah.
So for instance, I caught him because he came through the Irwin center.
And I think it was the same.
It was like a month before.
It was really great.
Like he was on stage and rock and plate ever just like that.
Just the hits, the beaches right there, the sunset behind him.
It was like it was awesome.
And at the end of the concert, he's like, I feel like he really said, I'm feeling great.
We're gonna be going back on tour.
I hope to see you guys again soon.
And then it was like three days later.
Tophead he dead.
Oh man.
It's like, oh, the bell told for thee.
Yeah, right.
It was really, he seemed like he was like
living it up and having a good time.
And I guess he-
You don't get to the fight when that happens.
Yeah, my buddy in Wisconsin saw Stevie Ray Vaughn at the last one like right before I was like
did you see the helicopter leaving or what?
No, but yeah, they heard like right after.
Yeah, so that's wild.
Dude.
Yeah.
Damn, guys, you see anyone before they go.
I haven't seen anyone right before they.
Yeah, I don't know.
Damn.
No, no.
Damn. I saw Selena in concert once. Does that actually rule us? That's good. I haven't seen anyone right before they
Saw Selena in concert ones
So South Texas rules
If you watch the Selena Netflix show the town I grew up in
It gets featured in that Netflix series as the town she will never go back to because everyone fights and it's super violent
They're making a point to say the name of the house They're it a point to say the name of the... In the past?
They make it a point to say the name of the town
and go up and over and over.
In Eagle Pass, everyone fights.
I've never been to a concert as Raudy and Unruly as Eagle Pass.
Well, I'm lucky we got out of there in time
before the riot broke out in Eagle Pass.
Season three, they're just sitting around the bus.
Damn, I'm just thinking about how much I hated Eagle Pass.
Like, in the way where I was like... Someone involved with this project remembers and really still hates that town. Three they're just sitting around the bus damn. I'm just thinking about how much I hate it
Someone involved with this project remembers and really still hits that town
That's crazy God damn god even the devil wouldn't be got dead in an eagle pass
Makes eye contact just like and right down the barrel
Um, I wanted to go back because you were talking about, guess like, you didn't learn about deodorant and how that,
is there other stuff that was not taught to you guys
that you wish someone would have just like showed you how to do
because mine was getting gas the first time
when I could drive and then going to pump gas
and then going,
Yeah, nobody showed me that either, yep.
It was, now it's like, oh, that's, yeah, of course,
I know how to pump gas.
It was the first time going and going like,
I had it, oh, I do it.
Just, nozzle goes in, it's like,
you just kind of like start pressing buttons
and you go, huh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
and I've done all the parts where it's like,
we'll go inside and tell him you want 30 on number seven
or whatever, so I've done all that,
so I went in and did that and then I went back
and then just kind of looked at that. Just kind went in and did that. And then I went back and then,
just kinda looked at it.
Just kinda stared at the wind.
How do we start this?
No one showed me how,
I just don't know how nobody showed me how to pump gas.
Yeah.
Can I sit in the back seat while somebody
pretends to be my dad?
Yeah.
I'm gonna be,
I'm gonna sit on it.
Yeah, I don't remember,
I don't remember the first time I pumped gas.
I have no recollection.
I mean, at some point I had to have learned it or done it
or watched them to like, yeah, I'm doing this, right?
But yeah, I don't know that there's,
I'm trying to think of other thing, like another thing
that like I wish someone he had just sat me down
and been like, this is how you do this.
I remember, I do remember someone actually showing me
how to balance a checkbook.
I think the very day that stopped being a thing
that you needed to do.
Like I would say it's like, my mom was like,
okay, this is how you balance a checkbook.
And here's a debit card.
You'll never need to learn how to balance a checkbook.
Well, it's September 10th, 2001.
I'm going to show you how to balance a checkbook
than the next day the world changed. The world changed forever. 10th, 2001, I'm going to show you how to balance a checkbook
than the next day the world changed.
The world changed forever.
I got put on the spot having to pump.
It's a good show.
Because I was going, like, there was this girl
from, like, church, and we were, like, together,
but, like, I guess, boyfriend and girlfriend,
but, like, you know, whatever that entails.
We were with her mom. She was driving us somewhere. She pulled in the gas station, and girlfriend, but like, you know, whatever that entails. We were with her mom, she was driving us somewhere,
she pulled in the gas station,
and her mom was like, oh Brian, can you pump?
Can you pump the gas?
No, same thing.
Like I knew to get the pump out,
and I knew to, you know, and she popped it,
and I looked at her and I was like,
is this how it works?
And I squeezed it and just gas, just,
I don't think it got her, but she screamed.
Of course.
And I was like, okay, that's how the gas works.
I'm like, sort of filled it up,
but that was the first time I pumped gas.
Well, got me thinking about that
beyond the deodorant thing.
Have you seen what's happening in Oregon?
Do you know about this in Oregon?
Oh, the heat.
Let me tell you about this.
In Oregon, it's like 113 degrees or whatever it's insane.
But in Oregon, you can't pump your own gas.
Oh, right.
They have a gas station attendant thing,
and that's like the law.
New Jersey as well, I think?
Yeah, New Jersey is the same way.
Really?
Yeah, I know that.
So there's signs, I just saw it on Twitter,
where I get all my news.
A sign that was like, you have to pump your own gas.
Here's how you do it.
And it's like seven instructional steps.
And I just thought, that's more than I ever got.
What the hell?
What the hell?
And it's truly, I think it really gets baffling people.
Like people who live in Oregon their whole lives,
never pump their own gas.
No.
Or like, just someone handed them a ball of Christmas lights.
They were just like, here.
I'm like, what?
Fuck, I'll just drive it to the runs out of gas.
I'm going to sell it and get a new car.
Yeah.
Does this car come with gas?
Yeah.
Do you put the full tank in it?
Thank you.
I'll just keep renting cars.
I have to fill them up for it.
In New Jersey, it's just a guy in a purple suit, too.
Who you have to tell?
Otherwise this.
I think it was like one of the cut subplots from sopranos was them like
hoaning in of the gasoline, isn't it?
Yeah, it was the pumping gas.
No show contract for showing up to pump gas at a pigly wiggly or something.
What? We talked about this a little bit.
What do you think of the St. St. St. Day work?
Yeah, it released that trailer for the...
The many St. St. St.
Yeah, the many, yeah, that I think this is.
I was a huge sopranos fan.
Yeah.
I was very ambivalent to the idea of this movie.
And after watching the trailer, I feel the exact same way.
I don't know necessarily who this movie's for.
I'm excited, I guess, question mark to watch it.
But I don't know, like the sopranos
wasn't necessarily about like the violence
and all that acting stuff.
It was subversive to the plot of what you would think
a gangster show would be about.
It was all about like building the characters
and that real slow burn of the way
the characters interact with each other.
And I'm just scared of how that's gonna translate
to a two hour movie.
And which isn't to say that's not enough time
to build plot and characters,
just like that's not, bless you.
That's not what I'm used to after all those seasons
of the TV show and everything just being excruciatingly long.
Are we gonna see Tony dream about a fish talking to him
or not? I mean.
Well, like, so the movie is the prequel, right?
Yes.
It's like the prequel.
What's so interesting about that is that it's a prequel to a story.
One of my favorite things about the sopranos was that it was just like one of the most
fascinating things about the show was that it was a study of this lifestyle and this group of people who were being phased out
of this like mob lifestyle that they wanted.
Like they want, you know,
the very beginning of that show is them quoting
like movie lines from like classic games.
Like in a world that was just like,
they were aging out of like,
or that they just like, this like romantists and Or that they just like, this romanticism they had
about the mob and the mafia and everything,
which is kind of leaving them behind.
Like the world's just leaving them behind,
that world was dying, and they wanted,
so to do a prequel feels like a weird,
like in my mind, like antithetical,
what the show is about.
It's almost like people who are like,
just separated from the world they want.
It's almost like it's only set up for failure in my mind. Yeah. Because especially like you're
talking about this prequel, they're talking about these characters who were beside, I mean,
obviously it's I think it's going to focus on like young Tony Suprano's, but it's focusing on like
Dickie Maltesante and like the older Tony Suprano or Tony Suprano's father, I should say.
And it's like these characters that you never got to meet in the series that are held up on like
pedestals and it's such high regard in the series.
Like, how are you actually gonna show these characters
to people?
Right.
I think that the thing I liked about the show
is that it felt like it was a bunch of guys
who their dads all sat around busing each other's balls
and told like these grandier stories,
but they all knew it was bullshit.
And then them as kids had no frame of reference
right being bullshit.
Yeah, so they all believe that that's really what it was.
So now they're like in it, and it's not that,
but it's exactly the same as what their dads did.
Yeah, they just don't know.
Yeah, it feels like, yeah, that's what I always felt
like the show was about them trying to act like
how they think their stuff.
Yeah, they're supposed to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What about Gary Cooper?
What about Godfather?
What about all the, and then when they do it,
like when they kill pussy, like Tony has major PTSD obviously
because it's the best, everyone kind of misses him after
and is like scared to say it.
But yeah, it just feels like, I don't know,
deconstructions the right word, but it does feel like sort of injecting like reality into,
yeah, they have all these legendary figures.
And then, and his mother going on
about what a saint his father is.
Of course, you didn't say that when you were little.
You were just awful to him and he withered away and died.
Yeah, yeah.
So, I don't, I don't, I think the big question I have
and I think I said this to Eric is I don't know who this movie is for.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's for like diehard sopranos fans,
which I mean, how many are there anymore?
Like it's a franchise that's kind of in cold for a little while.
Is it gonna, like, is it supposed to be targeted
towards new people who've never seen the sopranos,
in which case like existing fans aren't gonna be happy?
It's like, I feel like there's,
there in a no-win scenario in making this.
I don't know, I'm still going to watch it.
Me too. Yeah, absolutely. I don't know. I have so much skepticism about it.
The only funny thing to me about the trailer is when this Tony school counselor tells his mom that he's like a genius.
She just rolls her eyes like, yeah, with a D-plus average.
That's the actress from all this conjuring movies, right? Yes, she's very good.
Wait, for me, yeah?
Yeah, yeah, her.
For me, yeah.
I think she's playing Liv, Livya Sprinno.
And like, she's going to be so good in that role
as someone that you just go, fucking, hate you.
She's gonna be so good.
The character of Old Livya Soprano
in those early seasons of the Suprowns is so hateable. It's so be so good. The character of Old Olivia soprano in those early seasons of the sopranos is so hateable.
It's so good, yeah.
That's like movie villain.
Yeah, because I think the problem too is
the move was to make a soprano's movie following
but once he died, I was like, you can't do that.
So I think this feels like the second choice.
But I don't know that, but.
You could also deal with a post TV show World anyway, because he dies.
And yeah, warrior for a fucking 10 year old TV show, he dies in the finale anyway.
Wow, does he?
Yeah.
You're out of your mind if you're saying does he?
What are you talking about?
The guy in the members' knowledge, you're the guy in the members' own jacket.
Yeah, yeah.
It ends the way they keep foreshadowing in the show where it's just a
I guess so. I don't know. I like there's no there's no where nothing is just like
we talked about earlier with Tom Petty. It's like you don't get to pick that
moment. It's just you're here and then bam. And then it says that even like you
don't even know when he gets and he gets he gets popped and then that's the
end of it. Right. I guess my problem with the show isn't even like
there's a four. Whatever is that David Chase writes TV.
It's not TV. He writes TV that I like. I know.
Nice. That's good.
What you're talking to on two hours, two hours.
And that's how long like Mr.
Rogerio's neighborhood is as an episode where it's like not focusing on the
sopranos. And that's the best scene where Tony is driving and singing dirty
work by by Steeley Dan. That's what I think it's the best scene where Tony is driving and singing dirty work by Steeley Dan.
That's my favorite scene.
It's my favorite scene.
I think in all of sopranos is perfect.
But like I can he do it in two hours?
It's co-written so it's not just him.
But like.
I'm trying to see if there's a runtime and IMDB.
There's a lot.
And well, unless the runtime is 12 episodes,
I don't know that I'm gonna be okay with it.
It doesn't say.
You know, it's.
But it is, yeah.
If it's like a super serious mob origin story, that's
not really what the franchise was about.
It was fun.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
There are people who fast forward through the Melfi scenes and that's insane.
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I was just going to do the great.
Those are the best scenes where they give you the best, like they peel away the layers and those are the best scenes with that character
And when you want you want me to tell him what you want Melvie to tell him exactly what happened to her and you're like just say it
Just fucking say it just fucking say it. They don't get it. Yeah, you don't get it
It is it is gut wrenching to a degree where you're like how do they make?
They're so good at this how do they make this? Yeah, because every other show, she tells them and Tony and Tony just immediately goes
and just tortures this guy.
And they don't and it doesn't give you,
oh, it's so perfect, what a perfect show.
Gracie, for this semester, you have to watch
the brandos.
Thank you.
That's just like that show.
We're rewatching it right now,
but what they don't, they only show you what you need to see.
Like the French guy who rips off Arty for the 50,
but at the end, Arty, Tony forgives the debt
or whatever, and then you just see the French guy open
the door and furios there.
And they cut away, that's all you need to see.
You don't need to see that.
You don't need to see that.
You got it, you got it.
It never insults your intolerance.
That was a big deal.
And again, yeah, it's not what you're talking about.
It's not what you're talking about.
Again, that's why I think that's what's so wonderful about. And again, yeah, it's not what the show was about. Like, again, that's why I think that's
what's so wonderful and fascinating about that show.
And the show tells you kind of what it is
from the very beginning, very first season.
Just like, like I was saying,
the way they kind of quote and romanticize mob movies.
It's mob movies.
It's not even like the mob, like you were saying.
It's like mob movies.
Like the Scorsese, the Scarface,
it's like all these things that just kind of
glamorize this lifestyle, the show goes to the great lengths
to show you the very opposite.
That you don't get the good fellow scene
where Ray Leota walks across the street
and beats his neighbor on the face
with the butt of a 38 special.
You don't get that because that's not what the show is about.
It's about the very opposite of it.
No, it's the Russian guy getting away in the Pine Barrens
and then almost freezing to death in a van.
Yeah, like there's just a fucking...
It's all holding out with the TikToks or whatever that he found.
Yeah, yeah.
It's so fun.
Bobby's all dressed up in the camouflage for whatever that he found. Yeah, yeah. It's so funny.
Bobby's all dressed up in the camouflage
like the orange fantasy of what?
We go hunting.
It's so good.
It's so good.
That 80 Falco I saw in an interview,
it was like a tribute to James Gandalfine
but she said one time they were just filming
some nothing, saying they were just sitting out
by the pool or whatever.
And she just started crying
because she was like, I realize it'll never be this good again.
Yeah.
What I will never have this, you know, these caliber co-stars, the writing, everything.
It's just, yeah, it was so fucking good.
That, I love the sopranos, but I hate that show because it helped set that precedent
where a TV show might take a multi-year break between seasons.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, we're just going to finish this season.
You'll be back in two years.
Candle Fanny, I think, toward the end, was pretty tough to deal with.
I think he had, like, he was pretty tortured, I think.
Oh, really?
He got a divorce, like, I think that role fucked him up like as a person.
Yeah, he was a pretty intense and I don't think he, I think he had self-esteem.
I think he thought he was a shitty actor and just like, man.
Oh, yeah.
It was crazy.
It was tough on him.
In other stuff when he's not Tony soprano,
and you just, you think he's gonna be.
He's Kevin Fender, then.
Yeah, and then you just, and then you go,
is that how you sound?
What is this?
What's happening?
It's bizarre.
Acting.
Yeah, it really is, man.
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He's incredible.
So that's their section for the Risteteep Podcast about this.
His son though does look so much like,
which is great, I hope he can act a little bit.
Because that's such a role, so such big shoes to fill.
It really looks like, it's probably not,
it'll be him sometimes, but it really looks like
it's gonna be all the other people around him.
That looks like a big like carrying the show around this kid
that we're trying to elevate to be something.
It's like when you have an actor hosting S&L
and in the monologue and they can't, you know, you know,
they can't do it so that they got a musical number.
Yeah, come back with really a lot of motion.
A lot of key jangling. Yeah, like, hey, look, look at this.
Look at like an old wrestler and like, let's put him in with
fucking Rey Mysterio. Yeah, exactly. You know, so I had to fly
around. Oh, that's what I did not too long ago. I want some death
match wrestling in San Antonio.
Oh, they did their punches and kicks.
They hit each other with light tubes.
Yep. There was so much blood.
I was breathing in light tube dust.
Two hours.
Light tube dust in COVID.
America.
It was wild.
There was a huge, they had like this giant industrial fan
that was like 30 feet wide it was just gigantic and then in the second match a guy came out a guy his name was
Herzog and he was like this crazy looking scary guy and he came out and he was carrying like a door because instead of tables
Everyone buys doors now because they're cheaper and deep oak put each other through doors
He lifted it and the fan hit it and that fan broke and it got hot in the venue.
Yes sir.
I thought that fan would be like really high up.
It was not that high.
Oh my god.
It was a place called vibe center.
It's indie wrestling.
No, no ceiling is above six feet.
No, it really was low.
It was not a church like reception.
Oh, man.
Yeah, it was.
Exactly.
Being back and seeing pro wrestling,
it was like the first time I felt comfortable,
it was like I was vaccinated.
I went with people who were vaccinated.
It felt like everyone was vaccinated.
Some people were wearing masks.
Some people weren't.
I wore mine so I didn't have to breathe in like tube dust.
It was like being in like a group
because wrestling fans are like the lowest of the low. They're just like the worst things on earth. Especially in the rest. They're
They're the lowest low and I just went if I'm comfortable being here
I can be literally anywhere that was a big. Did you pee in the public restroom there? I did. Oh you're so yeah
You're your back baby. You're back baby. Yeah nature's healed. You're your nature. Yeah
There've always been like venues, when I was younger, I don't do this thing where I used
to go to bars and music venues downtown on Sixth Street.
And I know there were venues where I was like, no matter, I will piss my pants before
I step into that bathroom.
Like there are places just so foul and nasty.
I remember like the old emos on Red River.
I was just like, yeah, yeah. and nasty. I remember like the old emails on Red River.
I was just shocked.
Yeah, I was like, yeah.
There's just a bunch of understanding in a room.
Yeah, you just had a room of people absolutely agree.
Yeah, like, no, I am mad.
I will run, go to another bar and pee and come back if I have to.
I am not going back there.
Yeah, I'll pay to get into another bar, right?
And go pay.
And it's like, and I was so fascinating,
is that like, emo's was so gross,
like as a man, I can go pee and not touch anything
that isn't me, and I still didn't want to piss
in fucking emo.
Like I can walk in there and not touch a surface,
and I still, like, this, everything is wet,
but in like not a good way, like not in a clean way, like, and you wet, but not a good way, not in a clean way.
And you don't even, even if it's water and not piss,
you're just like, that water,
I'm like, hepatitis made a bathroom
and it became the emers bathroom somehow.
I was like, oh, foul.
The terrible, terrible play.
That place was all, if I got spent a long time
so I've been there, they're closed,
they're not even there anymore.
It was like all concrete, right? And they had like that trough that they would put ice in
See that's the mood yeah, but ice in the side you said all the concrete all the walls and everything like it was all wet
Yeah, you just like water everywhere right. I'm sure there are several leaks and the pouring
All right, you know like God knows what when you never let the humidity out and it can just live in the bathroom
And it's made of concrete,
it just becomes an ecosystem in itself.
Oh yeah, no, it's, yeah,
it was just a graffiti digger bump.
Yeah.
It's like a fucking bathroom.
Well, we got cool Yoda living in here.
All right.
Oh no, it's not Yoda.
That's a pile of those brown rough paper towels.
Just those paper towels that are just like clung together in the corner.
In the corner, yeah.
Oh, God.
Yeah, because that trash can hasn't been changed since 1994.
Oh, that's good.
That's when the gym blossoms played there.
So it was fine, you know.
It's okay.
Still got their DNA.
Yeah, absolutely.
We got it from where, man.
What was that in the 90s, where if you were a band,
you had to have two big radio hits
and one smaller radio hit.
That's just the way everyone operated.
There were like, it wasn't like so much one hit wonders
until like, I would say probably like adult contemporary
in like 97, it just felt like everyone had two big,
like gin blossom style, like big radio hits
and then one small little one.
There was a brief period in time
where like college radio got big. And it's like they had to have and then one small little one. There was a brief period in time where college radio got big.
And it's like they had to have one smaller one for college radio.
And then like the two big ones for like national air play.
Like that's the way that it normally work.
Or they had their own label that was owned by Interscope.
But yeah, they got to own tombstone records or whatever.
Yeah, what's right.
I totally forgot about that.
What was with what was going on with like inner scope and shit
in the 90s where they were just like,
you all get record labels.
All of you.
I don't know.
I guess I don't know if that's just sort of a deal
they made to sort of get, you know,
rancid or whoever to make like a, you know,
just a lazy,
lure these like alt bands out of Seattle.
It's like beer nowadays, right?
It's like just a couple of breweries
who just, you know, buy up indie breweries
and then just label it with like a bunch of different shit.
So it's like, oh, you don't know you're drinking,
excuse me, you don't know you're drinking a course
but you're drinking like some craft beer.
Like no, it's just, it's the shame set.
They just put different labels in it.
No, I'm drinking IPA with a pot leaf on it.
Yeah, cool. It's a cool beer. Or like the thing they do here No, I'm drinking IPA with the pot leaf on it. Yeah, cool.
This is cool.
Yeah, yeah.
The thing they do here specifically in central Texas,
where I don't know who it is.
I think it's Miller makes Ziegenbock
and they only sell it in central Texas
to compete with Shinerbock.
Yeah, I'd never seen it until I moved here.
And then someone told me about that.
And I'm like, that's the craziest thing I've ever heard.
That's insane.
Yeah, it's like this big multinational company
makes a beer regionally to compete with another in the brewery.
Just a screw, Shiner.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
So if you're in a craft beer now,
you're really into 1990s record labels.
Yeah, congratulations.
You know what? You are.
Like that was not like, I feel like everyone I know
was really into like 90s record labels and like like Indie Rock is now like a beer
Yeah, there's a perfect concert. Yeah, that Venn diagram is a perfect circle. Yeah, no, you're right because they all listen to dinosaur junior and
Won't shut the fuck off
God their pavement tattoos
Yeah, I hate it. Yes. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha at South Park Meadows before he came to a shopping center. Saw the cherry pop and daddy.
Yeah!
Yeah!
And a band that should be serving time
for their name alone.
A band that should be behind fucking bars.
They were huge, they were like a headlight.
They had one through mud at them and they were furious.
That's why.
Cherry pop and daddy.
It's suit riot.
Go straight to jail.
Yeah, like there's ridiculous, we let them get away with that. Harry poppin daddy's suit right go straight to jail
like there's ridiculous we let them get away who open for them.
Was it voodoo glow skulls?
Probably I just remember cherry poppin daddy's
and just being and just mud.
Yeah, what?
People were washing to cherry poppin daddy's
the like the 90s resurgence of swing.
Yeah, squirrel nut zipper.
What's that, baby?
I mean, that is a, that is a desolate way
to make sure you're safe.
Here's how Pindex is still touring.
Oh, of course they have to hell us
so they can't stay on.
They got out on the law, of course they can't stay on.
They're doing radio.
Yeah, it's like, look, listen,
Kinkos lets them have weekends off.
They can go wherever they want
Yeah, absolutely. Oh my gosh
They all work at the same like staples and man
It's tough on the weekends when they have to go but it is what it is. That's the cherry pop and daddy's lifestyle
Oh, man if you if you're out to see the largest collection of chain wallets still
being worn by dudes, look for them. From 96 to 97. I remember that at UT, man, and like
going to a swing club, and this dude with the chain wallet and the shirt on and is like
just clearly like just relishing the attention they're getting for dancing. I blame, I blame Skaw.
I blame Skaw for these other like micro music trends that come back.
Because I feel like every 15 or so years,
Skaw rears its ugly little hat and it goes, disung as horns.
And then like dance hall crashes are all of a sudden touring.
You go, yeah. All right, I guess whatever. That's just what it is. his horns and then like dance hall crashes are all of a sudden touring you go yeah
all right I guess whatever yeah that's just what it is that's the way it works
and because of that we get swing music and like all this other stuff I found your concert Brian
okay what it was the Horde festival yeah the Horde festival like August 23rd 1998 yep
yep that was the cherry pop in daddies with cowboy mouth opening
cowboy mouth oh my god that drummer was great too because he was like the drummer and lead singer
It's awesome. It's too arms and everything he was super like positive to be alive
And he was like bald and we're like good out of here
But he's like getting the crowd going while he's playing. Yeah, he was great
It was this song. Janie says was that their song? Yeah, Janie said has done on the radio I was gonna say we can't sing that on this show, but I don't great. It was his song, Jamie says. Was that their song? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I was gonna say we can't sing that on this show,
but I don't know.
It's fine.
I don't think they're coming after us for this.
I think they're thrilled for any attention they're getting.
Oh, well, absolutely.
Yeah, they're going, oh, someone, someone remembers.
And so they're excited.
If even one person, they get one tick play on Spotify or whatever,
what the hell?
Ha, ha, ha.
So I'm finding about a copy of your book, sir.
That one and Lala Paloza 94.
Whoa.
Headlined by the, which is on Dow,
headlined by the smashing pumpkins and the Beastie boys.
That one's Corgan head hair.
Yes. Right.
Yeah. Boy, he was a foul.
You were talking about playing the hits.
He played none of the, of course.
Like he couldn't wait to make Zwan.
And it was like, come on.
He was so, like, he just seemed furious at people
who just, we just want to hear from Simon's dream.
Yeah, right?
That's what we know.
And he just, he played, he played through, you know,
kind of what you wanted to hear,
but like just sort of really fast and really like add,
and like, it wasn't, and then at the end,
he kind of chilled out and like, it felt like he was driving people away. And then like, kind of really fast and really like, and like, it wasn't, and then at the end, he kind of chilled out and like,
it felt like he was driving people away,
and then like, kind of really turned it on
and got into it, like, you know, kind of,
that's decided to actually put on a show.
There is nothing funnier to me than an artist
who has unmistakable contempt for their audience.
Yep, yep, yep.
It was just like, gets on stage and heats their audience.
I am not gonna play, but it's like, but more or see, same thing's just like gets on stage and hates the audience. I am not gonna play in like more or see the same thing.
Just like I will never play a,
you will never hear me play a Smith song for the rest
of your life.
I hate that man.
I hate you.
Yeah, yeah.
Get out of my face.
But the BC boys, everything you want,
they had the golf visors and the shorts
and their high energy, the The whole they played their instruments.
They did they did everything.
It was wonderful.
Oregon is like number one with a bullet on like,
hated how successful or I hated that people liked his music, I guess.
I don't know.
He really like mellowed out.
I yeah, you know, he owns the national wrestling alliance.
He's in the right super into.
He owns the N.W.A.
Yeah.
What? What's now? What's into the end of the what?
What's nowadays is
it's nothing you can watch it on YouTube.
Yeah, it's a belt.
Yeah, I don't know.
Exactly.
I don't know.
That was a real thing where it's like
we're artists.
In the 90s it felt like we're not this
radio. That was the last time when it wasn't cool to sell out.
Yeah, you know, or there was that whole idea of selling out.
And now they don't give a shit,
well, get your money in, which is fine,
but yeah, that was sort of the last of the,
we're not selling out.
That was such an interesting time
when like the greatest betrayal you could like commit
was selling out.
And it like had at this time, which like,
I don't know what like in indie culture convinced like,
just an entire generation of this like,
of heroin chic weirdos,
that like selling out was like the worst thing you could do.
It's just like, man, if you were selling out,
like that means you had something to sell.
Like that means you actually had,
so there was like something to it. Like there was something, you had like a, that means you had something to sell. That means you actually had, so there was something to it.
You had a thing that people wanted.
You also clearly want to be famous.
Yes, you are right.
You're not in a band to not do that.
Well, I think that's the ultimate escape plan.
That's the ultimate secret Gen X had.
They tried to fight the system.
They tried to fight selling out, all of that stuff.
Then they realized, oh, wait, we can work the system and be part of it.
Yes.
And make money and sell out.
And then they just disappear.
That's why that was like boomers versus millennials.
And it's like, Gen X just got forgotten and got absorbed into the boomers.
Yeah.
When I think of Gen X, Brian, you are the most Gen X man I think I know.
Like when I think of Generation X, I think of Brian Gar.
Why do you say that?
I don't know. There's just something about like your Twitter
and everything where I go.
Gen X guy right there, man.
That's impotent.
Yeah, shit.
Yeah, shit.
Just like, he's kind of smart,
but he was never able to put it together.
100% like he's pretty gas at a lady.
Yeah.
He's funny, but not super funny.
I think what it is, it's that there's people fighting
like on like these front lines
and then you're kind of on a hill,
just kind of like lob and shots and go and got him.
No, no, no, no.
I mean like king of like hanging back in the cut.
Like I'm beautiful.
Just like the best, like the best place you want to be, frankly.
It is, it's the funny to the five guys in the back.
That's Gen X to me. That is, I'm, I, frankly. It is, it's the funny to the five guys in the back. That's Gen X to me.
That is, I was born in 86.
So I'm like right on that custom,
it's like that millennial,
I think it's Jerry Attrick, millennial.
I'm a filter millennial, I remember the day I got the internet.
Like I remember that happening.
You remember like pre-internet?
Oh yeah.
Well, yes.
Yeah, I remember writing a bike.
And so, and stuff like that.
So when I think of like, when I was younger, it was always like, man, yeah. Yes. Yeah. I remember writing a bike. And so, and stuff like that. So when
I think of like, when I was younger, it was always like, man, I think everyone does this.
Where it's like born in the wrong generation. Should have been Gen X. And then now it's like,
I don't think I had, I don't think I had what it takes to be one of the Gen X guys. I couldn't,
I couldn't sit back. It's that sitting like just deep in the cut. Like I don't have, I don't
think I have that. It's been the first 20 years of your life without internet. Yeah.
And like, boy, the world sure is weird. It's been the first 20 years of your life without internet. Yeah.
And like, boy, the world sure is weird.
Wish, I'm in an argument with someone about something
but the library's closed so we can't settle this.
But it's like, we wrote Mantisize now.
Like, I always think, you know, my friends,
I just, all we do is bitch about how my stuff sucks.
But you think back, like, it sucked then.
It was too, like, back, like, it sucked then.
I was broken, like, walking places, like, my car was broken, like, it fucking, like,
it always sucks, but it just, I don't know.
I think one of the funny things, I think, I think, I think, Kath Barberdoro, friend of
ours, comedian, Kath Barberdoro pointed out, she's like, it said something that just
really resonated with me.
She's like, like, Jenna, like, every generation thinks that, like, oh, we just like, said something that just really resonated with me. She's like, like,
Jenna, like every generation thinks that like,
oh, we, like, born in the wrong time, like,
like, oh, the world's so fucked up, we like noticed all of
it, like, all of these problems exist.
Jen X really feels like they discovered the problem.
Like, it was the first one who noticed things were fucked up.
It's just like, and where that as a fucking bat, they just like, we were the first one, we were the first generation to know that things weren fucked up. It's just like, and where that as a fucking bath,
is they just like, we were the first generation
to know that things weren't okay.
Everybody, definitely.
Like, that is something.
What did you do to address it?
We talked about it.
Yeah, we talked about it.
What do you mean we had the real world?
What do you mean what did we do?
Puck was there.
It's like, we got to see things though.
I do feel like we saw things kind of change
from like the internet coming,
but we weren't young enough to like take it,
but like we saw the internet change.
I feel like we saw comedy distinctly change
from sort of pre-Sympson to the Sympson's
and then after that, it sort of go from like cheesy sitcom
to sort of much more ironic,
but it just never feels like we were in a position
to capitalize on any of it.
You know, or at least that's how it feel.
Like we weren't sort of young enough for the internet
and it's like, and when we were young,
it's like the boomers really had a choke hold on everything
and it's like we got three years of music,
you know, to sort of be front and center and then it was kind of back to classic rock and that's
that's how it feels like we got our moment in the sun but then it was taken
away. It feels like women with Hillary Clinton like they got that one run and
then and then it was taken away and now it's like never again. Never. Yeah. That
was it. That was the stock. Well, you born in 80 or 70? 76. 76, okay.
I'm 40, I just turned 45.
Okay.
Cause I'm 84.
So yeah, there's like, man, it's amazing,
but just like that five or six years,
I'm like, well, oh my God, I'm just a dick.
Jesus, sorry, I'm like going through like,
cause I also remember the day that I got the internet.
Oh yeah.
Like, dead I got the internet.
Yeah.
But being that like weird position, culturally, where, like you said, not being able to capitalize
on it or get your shit to market fast enough, or it's like packaging that, you know.
It feels like we were friends with people who made it, but we didn't make it.
And also in the 90s, like people glorified the night,
there was a ton of like 70s worship.
It was like the 10th of the 70s.
All of it.
It was here in the early, yeah, especially in the earth,
but like all those fucking, you know,
Zeppelin made a big comeback and Eric Clapton
was fucking huge and all that shit.
So it was like,
Erasmus was still around for so many years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's a, it's weird. I know everything is like, all, Russ Smith was still around for some reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
It's a, it's weird.
I know everything is like,
all 20 years ago is like cool again or whatever.
Yeah.
But man, the 70 stuff in the 90s was like,
that's I remember that.
It was a press.
It was a press.
It was a press.
It was a press.
Yeah.
Yeah, just like,
to the point where like,
it wasn't even like,
oh, it's suddenly influencing styles and culture and stuff.
It's like, we are straight up fetishizing the stuff.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
This is like uncomfortable.
How much were worshipping this day?
It was like nothing modern is good.
Like, I remember having a friend and he was like,
I won't buy any album made after 1980.
It was like, shut the fuck up.
Oh, no.
And like, what's interesting though is because that's just,
I feel like this is how history works.
It's like, you know, like Greece was made in the 80s
and worshiped the 50s.
Like it's like you get this like two decades.
You get a 20 year like reference, like everything
was good back then.
So now we're in 2021.
Like, don't you miss the Bush years?
That's what's so fascinating is that I feel,
and again, I'm like, can I truly cannot point to,
after 2000, after the, in the New Millennium,
I can't, and I lived through this as like a teenager
and a young adult, I can't look back on those
on the last two decades and point the things like,
distinct, like culturally distinct about those things
that isn't mired and despair.
Like that isn't like-
There's one thing in the early 2000s that stands out.
Yeah, at the very beginning.
Like 2001, sometimes.
But I mean, that's what I'm talking about.
It's just like we had like a horrendous thing happen at the very beginning of the millennium. And then, like, eight awful years, followed by,
eight more years where we didn't fix the stuff
from the past eight years and bailed out banks
to the tune of $5 trillion.
And then had the last, like, it really feels like
the last 20 years.
I'm like, what can we look, like, what is going to be,
like, culturally mimicked from the past?
I know. I feel like 9-11 was just like a test we look, like, what is going to be, like, culturally mimicked from the past? I know.
I feel like 9-11 was just like a test we failed, though.
Like, as a country, because it feels like, as a country,
we got, like, bullied at school,
or something like, something where it was, like, clear,
like, everybody else was like, that sucks, man.
Are you okay?
And then we just came in the next week
and shot up the school.
Yeah, it just like acted the fucking worst like the worst,
or like tortured a dog to death.
Yeah, that feels like nothing since then we've done has been
redeeming it all.
We're still in these wars and it just feels like.
It's not even just the international overseas stuff.
It's even like the domestic stuff.
I remember after 9-11, I might have been a couple of months there. It might have been the state of the
next state of the union, like January 2002. I was down, because I was down at the Chouis at Barton Springs Road,
and I was waiting to get a table, and they had like the state of the union playing, and I was watching it.
I was waiting for my table, and George Bush talking about the creation of the Department of Homeland Security.
Yeah. Tom Ridge will be heading it up, and I was just like, oh, that's it. There we go. Everyone's applauding bipartisan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nope. Where this is this? Let's stop. How about we think rationally about this? As we're recording
this now, I think they announced that Rumsfeld died. Yeah, Rumsfeld dead. Yeah. And the only tragedy there is that it wasn't in the hagg
Your evil I hope Teenies just like pumping his own robot heart to try to squeeze out of the life. Yeah, yeah
I think he's so no the the I mean with with Rumsfeld
Biting the big one. It's just like a true arc on of evil. Like some real monsters are still
like roaming this earth.
That way, yeah, I should have in some
of the worst shit imaginable.
But yeah, as we speak, we're pre-taping though, right?
This will have been a week ago.
Hey, remember when Donald Trump felt died?
Yeah.
That's good.
It probably was.
You're talking about culturally significant things
from that era though, and I don't think that like what kind of comes back and comes to be is like the culturally significant stuff that are the touchstones for like what it's like it's not that stuff is bucket hats.
You know what I mean like that studded white studded belts. Yeah. And it's like slip oversize slip knot t-shirts and like the tail end of Janko jeans.
And women were wearing backless shirts that were just trying the little
off-road here. I forgot about that. They look like a hanker chip.
Glorious.
Butterfly clips and like a low-rise gene.
And chunky hair, Doctor.
Yeah, yeah.
Chunk's died out of their hair.
Well, that's what I'm like, you know,
the times that the actual times themselves garbage.
Yeah, nothing.
But nothing.
But I'm talking like, even I still can't think about
like what will culturally kind of define
and move the needle because like, I don't,
I don't think Slipknot T-shirts are coming back,
but I could be wrong.
You could court it and mark it on it, man I could be wrong. I recorded a market on it, now.
For the country.
And Drew, you check out TikTok because I disagree.
My theory is that-
It is hot.
No, no, no.
Yeah, crazy.
I feel like everyone, I feel like young people,
I feel like everybody under certain age
just sort of escaped from society after that.
I think the technology got so good,
the internet got so immersive, video games, all that shit
where iPods came out, I felt like
we could just kind of piece out of things
and start making our own little universe
and ecosystems and not, I still think people are active,
but it just has always felt so hopeless since then.
Oh, we're not in control of that.
Like, we're very atomized.
I feel like just like the beginning of the millennium,
just like things got very atomized very quickly.
And like, so like broad cultural shifts in style, music,
everything like that got very,
I mean, for better or worse, like, you know,
very individualized.
And so like, there weren't like, And so I think the bigger shifts and stuff
that you saw in the 90s with,
I mean, the like, resurgence of swing
or the Latin invasion.
There was still kind of a central pop culture.
And then it got much like a stockbroker in Tower 2.
It got atomized after.
Jesus, boy. Oh my God. It's like 20 years. 20 years? Yeah, 20 years we can do that. Doc broker in tower two it got atomized after like he's a boy
oh my god
we only took 20 years
yeah right 20 years we can do that
yes wow
boom
wow
well guess what do you think
hmm
hmm
I don't know how to say
I don't know how to say
the nipods launch like a month after
September
like October 2000
remember reading think pieces like the
iPod actually helped us get over 9-11.
Like, it was a salon.
You could shut up right now.
Shut up right now.
Whatever you want.
I remember there was a very brief window in time when iPods first came out.
Like, they didn't have proprietary connectors or anything yet.
It was just like, it only worked on Macs.
It was like a Firewire connection.
You could plug it into a Mac and it popped up like an external hard drive.
And it's like copying music to it.
There was like a rash when they first came out where people would buy iPods,
and then just go to like,
CompuOsset and plug them into like,
the demo max there,
and just copy all of the software
off of that computer onto your iPod.
And you could take it home and just plug it,
it's like, oh, I want an office,
but I want to pay for it.
You said a portable hardware.
You just had my iPod.
I'm gonna go take it,
copy it off the computer at CompuOsset.
Now I've got office at home.
It's like, that was a problem where they had to like have
signs like, do not plug your iPods into the computer. Remember an AOL, it's a messenger, there was a
file share button. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Gracie, do you know what CompuOC is?
All right, baby. I got, remember the iPod minis, the the first little ones that I that was the my first
I'm and I got it for Christmas and I like brought it to and like people I was working in wake
Oh, people in the office were coming out
It hold how many
Before that it was like the diamond Rio MP3 play and it had like 32 megabytes
Diamond Rio MP3 player and it had like 32 megabytes. So yeah, it was, oh man, this shit sucks.
Like you can't even put a whole album on this.
And then the iPod came out and just fucking destroyed everything.
I remember when it launched, there were so many fucking naysayers like,
oh, that's too expensive.
Nobody's gonna buy this.
What garbage?
And like, two years later, it was like there were no other MP3 players on the market.
I mean, yeah, just absolutely,
just to scorch the earth.
For all of their technology,
they just like absolutely wiped it out.
I just thinking that this just talk about like the late 90s,
like turn of the century,
it's wild that that's what it was.
Turn of the century, I just remember like seeing a bunch of,
like the most garbage salon remind me of this as well.
Like garbage newsweek covers,
and like newsweek being a magazine
that just had like,
the most nonsense coverage,
just like children, spiritual gurus.
Yeah.
Like, just this is like, like, not paying for this.
I'm, I remember that being,
I don't know why those images loom so large in my mind.
And it's like a picture of like a child
like half of their face and light and half of it like in shadow.
And just like, I remember all those covers
so distinctly from that decade.
Back when they were making money.
Yeah. Yeah.
That doesn't just sum up Newsweek.
That's so perfect.
When spiritual groups.
When I was in high school, my family had a subscription
to Newsweek.
Of course.
We would get it in the mail every week.
And it was like the highlight of my week.
Like, what's going on in the world?
And then you reach an age eventually, where you're like,
wait a minute, this is garbage.
Yeah.
Exactly.
And now, isn't it one of those websites
that'll just anyone can submit to?
Yeah, yeah.
But it's not, there's no, it's like Forbes,
there's no cachet, being able,
having written for news.
No, absolutely not.
Yeah, that's what looms like,
I am thinking back in my mind
is having that exact same experience.
It's like, like, it just flushed the front of my brain.
It was just like, yeah, being a kid and like, getting news week magazine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then like, yeah, you just like,
turn the page one day and go,
this is trash.
Like, what is this?
P.J.O. Rork doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
What a deep pull.
That's perfect.
I mean, just like, yeah, it's like,
I feel like this is the,
this is like the printing,
the magazine world's bulletin,, I feel like this is the,
this is like the printing, the magazine world's bulletin board,
like college bulletin board, like anybody can post any.
Every other cover of like, I had time magazine.
And it seemed like every other cover was either a heavily
photoshopped portrait of Bill Clinton or OJ.
Like that was just, oh, yeah.
Man, good time.
Or the world on fire.
Yeah.
Like the glow covered in oil.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, which one?
Covered in oil.
Yeah.
Was either on fire or covered in oil.
Big time.
I wonder if that, I wonder if we saw this.
I wonder if that did anything to our psyches as we saw that each and every week each and every week in our homes coming to us.
Our most appreciable moments of our lives.
All right, guys, want you to take us home?
All right, we got to end this pre-record.
The old men cast.
I have celebrating to do.
So, thanks for watching.
We didn't even talk about Fourth of July, which is why we're in a pre-recording.
Oh, I think I think in a roundabout way,
we talked about fourth to July.
Yeah.
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