Rooster Teeth Podcast - Airlines are Worthless - #680

Episode Date: December 22, 2021

Join Gus Sorola, Gavin Free, Barbara Dunkelman, and Andrew Rosas as they talk about Gavin & Barbara being here for 10 years, oversleeping but the good way, crypto & NFTs, Spiderman NO SPOILERS, and mo...re on this week's RT Podcast. Sponsored by HelloFresh (http://hellofresh.com/rooster14 and use code rooster14), Avast (http://avast.com to check out Avast One), and The Matrix Resurrections (http://hbomax.com/the-matrix-resurrections). RTTV is sponsored by ExpressVPN (ExpressVPN (http://expressvpn.com/rttv). Join FIRST to watch episodes early: http://bit.ly/2uNNz0O FIRST Member and need your Private RSS feed for this show? Go here: bit.ly/FIRSTRSS Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:53 What's double shot? It's a double shot. It's a double shot. Oh, we haven't been in the same shot on a podcast in a very long time. We're. Bye. I mean, this shot looks like unreal engine versions of you guys. Like you guys have been rended. Something is strange about the light or not or not. I'm in a mocap suit in a different building. We lost chat on the other monitor down here. It's a different camera.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Different camera. We're filling something in with a different camera. Again, we're in a temporary setup. But a different temporary setup. The temporary setup changed again. Yeah, so we were in one temporary setup before. Yeah. Everything got moved to this room.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Right. For today. Is this permanent? And tomorrow. And then, so this week's episode, just don't break that. This week's episode and next week's episode will be in this room, but then after that everything's getting moved to a different room again. It's so close to this.
Starting point is 00:01:48 So they built all of this. Oh, that was a really satisfying sound. Oh, that was good. That was nice. So that thing. And then so the crew worked really hard to get everything set up in here and then they just have to take
Starting point is 00:02:02 tarot all down and put it to another room. Yeah, this is turning into a, and this room is turning into one of those jump-alene places in like half an hour. So we got to like, create up and make film this episode. I don't know if the mics can pick it up, but there's like construction work happening right outside this door. Why don't we, shh, shh. I also just saw a guy walk by the window.
Starting point is 00:02:18 We're trying to get everything done so we can move you into the new project. Why don't we try out every room? That's really a lot. Yeah, I think you're going to look back at that sentence in a couple of weeks and go close. Which I didn't. Today's episode of RTP is brought to you by the rigid shop pack. Listen carefully, you can see here that puppy per right now. Oh, yeah, it's a we're constant flux. We're moving around. You know, the one production that has a definite time
Starting point is 00:02:48 Yeah, every week that it goes on I'm not we have this is the best I'm just saying I don't understand, but this is what we got. It's not like we were like surprise. We're doing a podcast Then this one we didn't know what it was saying. It was a surprise 13 years. This is a I love it. It's been over 13 years. As of today.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Congratulations, over 1,000 hours. Over 1,000 hours of podcast. I love this room. I love the shot of me and Gavin look like uncanny valley versions of ourselves. It's great. Yep. Yeah, before the holidays, we got the deep fake
Starting point is 00:03:23 harboring Gavin into the podcast. They're calling in remotely. Yeah, so yeah, that's so if things look weird that's why but on the bright side I've got a one shot which is way too much Gus. I don't have to share it with Gavin anymore. Not enough Gus. I didn't do a little guess. Do you? I really wanted to. If you guess. Do you? If you guess.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Before I forget there's something like I wanted to talk about. I saw someone from the community reached out last week and they told me that they were going to be racing or not racing. They're going to be riding the Tour de France course a week before the professionals do it to raise money for Kier leukemia. Oh wow. And they've got to go fund me set up. So it's like, they're going to run the entire course,
Starting point is 00:04:09 raising money for this leukemia charity. And I thought it was really cool. I tweeted about it last week. If you want to go, I'll see if I can find a link to put in the comments here right now. I thought it was a really cool endeavor. It's someone who they've been watching our content. They said, for over 10 years.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And I was like, oh, that's really cool. I want to try to like get the word out there and signal boost it. Like someone who's trying to do something positive in this terrible shitty world. What are we living in right now? You said they're going to run the entire right. They're going to bike it. Okay. Okay. I was like, good Lord. They're going to bike are they're going to run the entire Georgia France course? Oh my god. Graham Donaldson. Can anyone just do anything before the main event?
Starting point is 00:04:51 I could could I could we do the Olympics before the next one? Probably not because you require there's a lot of stuff that you require for the Olympics where it's Georgia France is just an air. Throw shit. Jump shit kick shit. You can do like the original Olympics. Right? People are doing the Olympics for thousands of
Starting point is 00:05:07 years. Can I just get carry a torch just like before the Olympic? What are you doing? Yeah, you know, did you see on Reddit today? Someone wrote that if you were an Olympian, you can, I guess the anyone can do
Starting point is 00:05:21 this, but if you're an Olympian, you're allowed to use the acronym oil Y in your signature, like PhD for doctor, it's like, you're allowed to use OLY to signify that they were they competed in the OLY. You'll say that it should be anything. You could be Gus Olly. Gus Olly. Yeah, but it's, so whatever you want to speak. That's for a Y.
Starting point is 00:05:44 Everything's fake. It's for a lie. Everything's fake. Aren't you, where you could marry people with a certain ordained? Yeah, I've been ordained. So what does that add to your signature if anything? Could you add like? A couple of weeks worth of work every time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:59 It's not like a... I don't know if there's a signatory you can add for that. I think I talked about this years ago on the podcast when we were still in the congress office But one time when we were traveling I was doing a hotel booking and I think we're traveling internationally somewhere And like the list of titles you could choose from was insane like you clicked on the drop down normal It's like mister misses miss this one was like you know doctor president Captain commander like any your honor. Yeah Mr. Mrs. Miss this one was like you know doctor president, you know Captain commander like any your honor. Yeah, yeah, that was on there too like almost anything you could imagine any title You could imagine was in that drop down and it was long
Starting point is 00:06:38 Other websites the president like booking something and he has to settle for mr Was the president for the president or just people who have been having other things? You're like president of a chess club or something? I just like, yeah, do you have like something that one, there's one drop down here that has president and a smaller one that's like chess club. Like you're gonna like, or USA, you're gonna hold
Starting point is 00:07:00 like a list of different like, okay? Just like one and then the other. Yeah, exactly. It's a thing where USA is not at the top you got to scroll down It's not going down so chest club is above it. It's next to United Air Memorates. It's like all the way down at the bottom. Yeah Oh, well wise and hernch title given by an organization according to Peter Hayes Of course he'd know it makes sense. I mean, they everyone watching as access to Google, right? True. But leave it to Peter Hayes to look it up and spread the good, spread the good
Starting point is 00:07:30 one. Why do we get him on a podcast? He looks in another country or something. So did I. Yeah, stillable. You were here. The did is the. Yeah, yeah. He passed tense doing a lot of heavy lifting. You're about to hit 10 years here, right? In February? Oh, shit. That one, quick. Yeah, because I just hit 10 years in December. And so you're shortly after me, which is so funny because we just had our end of year
Starting point is 00:07:57 all hands, like, awards ceremony where they give out, like, company awards and talk about like, people who are hungry. Did you win? I didn't win. I never win. We talked about this on the podcast before. I don't win awards. But it's like better about it. And it's okay. I've only made it in your 10 years. But when an award for being someone that's been in,
Starting point is 00:08:16 oh, I got a G. 10 years of award. You can use oil wide or signature. There you go. You've officially accepted that. But they started. They recognize everyone who had their five-year anniversaries and ten-year anniversaries. And it's funny because since Gavin's is in February of 2012, you're counted in the, I guess, 2022 awards ceremony, even though you're like
Starting point is 00:08:38 two months after 2021. I feel like they should count you in that one. Yeah. No, once you're made anything, once you make an exception, then you got to do it for everyone. 2021 I feel like they should count you in that one. Yeah, no Me anything once you make an exception then you got to do it for everyone. No, make him wait The rules are there for a reason if I got a pass 10 and Keep going then I should probably do another 10 20 and done you got to round up. Yeah, I don't want to stop at 10 really. No. Well, you didn't stop at 10. I didn't. Still going. Can't stop me. It's gonna be 20 years soon. It is isn't it?
Starting point is 00:09:13 Because it's got 20 years. It's 19 years. Less than a year and a half. Oh God. Maybe I'll stop when Gus is 20. Before the podcast started, we were doing this thing where we do this every now and then we talk about like old bars and old places in Austin that we used to go to and like we're naming all these places off and I'm like, as we're talking about it, like, man, it seems like that place just closed down or was around just a couple of years ago, but that place closed 20 years ago. Like that place has been gone for a long time. And it's like just in the blink of an eye, like looking back, you're like,
Starting point is 00:09:46 oh, it's not that long. Wait, that was in the 90s. Yeah, it's like, oh, I mean, that just closed down yet. 2019, oh, there's a one nine at the beginning. Oh, shit. Oh, that was a long time ago. Yeah, I did. So I'm just gonna beat it.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Oh, the passage of time. Yeah, it's terrible. Oh, thumbs down. Yeah, do not like one star. But speaking of passage time on a more positive note, we, on speaking of 2022, we did announce that takes for RTX 2022 will be on sale January 15th. Coming back in Austin? Reaching to in person after a couple of years of hiatus and there may be that right? Yeah, if everything goes well, I think by July, you think they're
Starting point is 00:10:36 going to clip this. But when everything has gone to absolute. It is definitely happening. Yeah. Well, of course, we do want a safe event, right? So like, you know, we're anticipating things, we'll go down, things will be better. We are going to have health and safety measures in place, you know, both us, the city of Austin, New Owns and Convention Center, everyone wants to have a safe and healthy event. So we're going to have, you know, face masks will be required, proof of COVID vaccination or negative COVID test,
Starting point is 00:11:08 enhanced cleaning, like all that typical stuff that, you know, we've all grown used to over the last two years. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, we're anticipating things will subside, hopefully get better, and then we will have safety measures on top of that. But it'll be great to be back together in person after not having it for a couple of years. Officially going on sale Monday, January 24th at 10 a.m. It's an early bird pre sale for furt members. Wednesday, January 26th, there's early bird
Starting point is 00:11:36 for general public and then regular rates are on February 14th. It's our Valentine to you. Oh, yeah. So that's all coming really soon. Just keep that in the back of your mind. Just remember. RTX7.com. RTX7.com. Thank you. Oh, yeah. So that's all coming really soon. Just keep that in the back of your mind. Remember. Rtx7.com. Rtx7.com. Thank you, mysterious voice. Yeah, Rtx7.com. With the fucking point. Wade Boggs carpet world. Sorry, always.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah, I was so excited to be back in person for Rtx. Yeah. It's just like that's like the highlight of the year for me every single year. And to have that back again, it's like such a long time coming. Yeah. I'm so pumped. And it's on my birthday again. Happy birthday. We did it for you.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Really excited. At least we're not planning it anymore. Yeah. You just have to show up this time. That was the worst part. Well, I mean, I loved planning RTX with you, but like having to like do all that work and then essentially celebrate your birthday with more, but like having to like do all that work and then Essentially celebrate your birthday with more work is like who did more work?
Starting point is 00:12:30 It was very different I got you a choice easily. Yeah, very very different. We did different stuff He did more stuff like with the convention center and exhibitors and all that stuff and I did more like the programming and the I remember not sleeping like just like be freaked out and stressed out for like the programming and the... I remember not sleeping, like just like, be freaked out and stressed out for like weeks and months leading up to it, like dozing off for just a little bit and then waking up like into panic,
Starting point is 00:12:51 like, oh my God, I got stuff to do. Do you remember crazy hats? Yeah. Do you remember when you could not sleep and still function? I stayed up the other night until like 5 a.m. for no reason. And it fucked me up for days.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yeah, why don't you do that? Sounds like a nightmare. It was so stupid. I know you're doing nothing. I don't like, I got to that point. So, you know, there's like a threshold. And it's usually around midnight where I'm like, okay, I just need to like start the wheels of going to bed.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Now I get, you know, get bed, do the thing to the lights down and stuff. And usually I'm a little sleepy bed in. And so going to bed is natural. But if whatever reason, I go past that point, if I get past tired, I get this like, I get this like second wind around like 1am or 2am. And either I have to fight that with all my might
Starting point is 00:13:43 or I go till like, I just stay awake till like 5 a.m. And then this is one of those nights where I just like, let it ride and just stayed up till 5 a.m. And it ruined me for days. Well, what time did you wake up then? Oh, I went to bed at 5 and then I woke up at 9. Like, when I woke up at 4 a.m. So I got 4 hours of sleep. And then what happened that one night?
Starting point is 00:14:03 Oh, is it like recurring? That, I mean, that was the last time that happened, it was a couple of weeks ago and before that, I mean, it's been a long time since I stayed out. I usually don't, I can't do like back to back like nights is staying up. I used to be able to do that. Yeah, I remember.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Collet man, yeah, just like, you know what? I'm not gonna sleep tonight and I'm gonna be fine with it. Yeah, exactly. And this is a, let's be a lesson to all you kids out there because this is always an tempting thought, especially when traveling, the holidays are coming around. Be safe, travel safe, mask up.
Starting point is 00:14:36 That if you have an early flight, you will be tempted to say, fuck it, I'll just stay up and I'll just stay up all night and get on my like six a.m. flight. Do not do that. Don't ever do that. It's so tempting. Even just an hour of sleep, even if it's just a you go to bed, you close your eyes for
Starting point is 00:14:53 an hour or two hours, worlds better than trying to stay up and power through it. Then power through it. What a nightmare. And it's just, and it never works. I think I've done that several times in my life and every time I'm like this time. Now I've always tied several times in my life and every time I'm like, this time. Yeah. You're always tied at the worst points, too. It's like when you've got a pay attention to stuff or when you've got a way for 45 minutes to board, but you're like, it's like
Starting point is 00:15:13 the, yeah. Right. They're like, okay, boarding pass, ID. You're like, I should have had that out. I think I put it, I just, I just, fun. Oh, shit, I brought my gun. No! I've been having this similar thing. Last week I had like three nights like that where it was almost like jet lag where I would go to bed at 11 p.m. or something and wake up at 1 a.m. Oh, like naturally? Yeah, it'd be like my second wind but so strong that it would actually wake me up from sleep on a delay and then I'd be up to five easily every time.
Starting point is 00:15:46 And I'd just be like, I haven't flown anywhere. Why, floats in New York and back? I don't think the one hour time zone is doing the jet lag there. Yeah. But after about three nights of that in the same week, I just had that sort of like, tired-y fog feeling where everything's a little bit... It's not physically foggy,
Starting point is 00:16:02 but you just kind of feel like an overall sort of like... Are we really hallucinating at all? Well, I was, I was just like just so slow in like reactions to stuff and I was like, I can't really do anything. No, but wake obviously because it's noon now and I and I don't want to fall asleep at noon because I want to sleep tonight. PS that didn't work. Great. And then you just end up not being really able to do anything productive. I'm like, oh, I need to get this edit done, but I can't because I'm an idiot right now. I'm not going to make good decisions. It's going to be lazy. I'm going to make lazy decisions. So I can't really do that. And I'm just going to wait for time to pass to try and reset this for tomorrow. And it
Starting point is 00:16:37 happened like three times. I was like, I don't know. I fucked myself so hard with that recently, because I went to the UK for a convention a few weeks ago. And it was one of those flights that gets in at like six in the morning in London. And it leaves Austin, I think like six P. I forgot what the timing is, but and I was like, okay, perfect. You could sleep on the flight. And then you start your day and start your day and then just power through and then just go to bed in normal time.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Did not sleep a wink on the plane at all. And then I got into London and I went, should I just try to power through the day? So I'll be really tired at night and just be able to sleep right through the night. So I did that. I stayed up all day by like dinner time. I was a little loopy, but I was still feeling okay.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Like later on in the night, like 9, 10 o'clock, I was like doing the head bob, falling asleep thing. Yep. And then by the time I went to bed, which is like midnight, could not go to sleep. I was overly tired to the point where my body just wouldn't let me sleep, and then I had a panic attack. That'll happen. Jesus. Uh, that like a mild panic attack that just lasted me all through the night, where I would sleep like maybe 15 minutes and wake back up and my heart was like going like 130 beats per minute per second. Oh shit. Yeah. But then like the entire trip I was I was just so fucked.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Yeah. Yeah. I couldn't. I couldn't sleep. That could also last so much longer than you expect. Like sometimes I'm affected for like two weeks of like a four day trip. Yeah. Yeah. There is a can I get back to normal at any point? I got back on, so I flew back and landed like 4 p.m. on Monday.
Starting point is 00:18:12 And I went home, had dinner with Trevor and at seven o'clock I fell asleep and I woke up at 9 a.m. the next day. Wow. It was beautiful. I was like, I could think again. I like, I know how to use my brain again. Have I, I might have told this story on this podcast before, but I did videography at a summer camp years ago.
Starting point is 00:18:35 This is years and years and years ago, early 2000s, did videography at a summer camp. And so I had to film all day and then edit all night for like a previously like yes, this would happen yesterday like edit all night a video to show the next day at like the morning, you know, meeting meeting when you know they gather all the campers. So after it was a week long camp, I probably was averaging like three, four hours a sleep a night, maybe, maybe. One, the last night I just had to stay up all night because I had to edit the whole video. And I remember exporting the last video,
Starting point is 00:19:14 going and turning it in, and I mean, I felt like insane. Like, I felt like I was going, like just vapor trails, like unbelievably, a week of like basically no sleep. And so I went to the place where I was I was staying They gave me like my own room. I didn't stay when he campers. Thank God went to this went to my room Lay down in bed at like 10 a.m. After I turned in the video
Starting point is 00:19:38 Blackness I wake up 11 a.m. And I'm well rested. I feel great. You didn't. I slept for 25 hours. Wow. I slept from 10 a.m. on Friday to 11 a.m. on Saturday. Holy f**k. A whole day, like a whole day in an hour.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I did. I did so. I bet you felt amazing. I felt incredible. But also I felt like you were like transporting. Yeah, it was absolutely. Yeah, just I just I was very similar. It was like a commercial. I was on for like five days and they were becoming longer each day. It was like 12 hours and 13. Eventually it was like 18 hours in on the final day and I just
Starting point is 00:20:17 Was a zombie at the end. Yeah, and I it was similar to your thing where I slept for about 13 hours Was up for a little bit. And then I was like, you know what, I'm not done. I just slept for like another 12 hours. I was like, I didn't exist in that day. I didn't do anything. Yeah, you're like Mr. Day.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah, just an entire day gone. And that was, that was a crazy thing. I was like, it was very disoriented because I can't have like, looked at my phone, I was like, 11 a.m. I didn't think to look at the date. I was like, wait, that's, I feel like, it was very disorienting because I kind of like looked at my phone, I was like 11 a.m. I didn't think to look at the date. I was like, wait, that's, we feel like very arrested. Feel like, you know, feel fantastic. And then like, oh, miss calls.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Oh, people have been looking for me because I've been gone for an entire day. Just zapped and I didn't like get up to go to the bathroom, didn't stir, didn't, I don't, didn't dream. I was't like get up to go the bathroom didn't stir didn't I don't didn't dream I was just like seen missing for what you're cryogenically frozen for 25 hours. Yeah, yeah, I think that's the closest you've been to death without anything bad happening. Like, this is not normal. That's not healthy. No, that's awful. Certainly not. I should be doing that.
Starting point is 00:21:21 You're doing some giant news event that had happened on that day and you wake up the next day You're like what is everyone on about what's everyone talking about? Yeah, no, it's some rest That's like a real like beginning of a Twilight Zone episode or some like you know Just a man slept for 25 hours like at what point is it a coma like if you went to your days was that coma? Do you have to be on it's brain activity right? Yeah, coma is like a medical like yeah, he's sure he still had regular brain activity. I don't think being asleep for a long time is considered a coma technically. I got that know what what what what classes a coma. I see this is like I mean does a coma start.
Starting point is 00:22:00 Tuesday. It's a coma if you can do this and they don't like by their face. I mean it wake up. Yeah, exactly. I assume it's like yeah, just unconsciousness that you can't wake up from that sounds really dark Like a coma like a coma Yeah, that sounds incredible. I can't find I found a lot of that's coma. I found a lot of how to explain coma to kids. Oh my, Jesus. This episode of the recede podcast brought you by Hello Fresh. The holidays are fast approaching and things are probably going to start getting a little crazy for all of us. The holidays, you know, they're right
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Starting point is 00:24:01 we used to Skype until like five in the morning for me, or something like that, something crazy. And then I would just sleep until four PM the next day, because why not? I had nothing to do. Man, can't do that anymore. I got responsibilities, you got to do stuff. Yeah, can't ever talk to Gavin again. No, only on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Only on the podcast. I sent Gavin a video earlier that I thought was really interesting. It was by Wendover Productions, one of my favorite YouTube channels. And the whole video talks about how airlines are essentially worthless and the only valuable asset they have is their frequent flyer programs. And I guess all this came to light when COVID started because the airlines needed a bailout and you know, they had to get loans to sustain themselves in order to keep operations. And as part of it, they had to offer collateral.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And I guess in the collateral, most airlines offered up their frequent flyer programs, which actually assigned a value to them, you know, their frequent flyer programs, which actually assigned a value to them, most frequent flyer programs, they talked mainly about American, Delta and United. Most frequent flyer programs are worth roughly around $20 billion. Oh, holy shit. But it's like if you look at the market cap
Starting point is 00:25:17 of an airline, like American for example, might be $14 billion. It's like how come they're worth less than their frequent flyer program? It's like if you do, if you continue along that line of thought, it's like, how come they're worth less than their free-to-flyer program? I was like, if you do, if you continue along that line of thoughts, it's like, well, then that means that the airline itself is worth negative $6 billion in order to get to that. So it's like, the airlines only exist to have their free-to-flyer programs because that's their main asset that makes money for them.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And they talked about how for the most part, as a rule, and of course, all of this is obfuscated, you can't figure it out, you have to do like a lot of educated guessing. Most airlines lose half a cent per mile per passenger whenever they're flying someone somewhere. Oh well. And so it's like,
Starting point is 00:26:03 they don't make money transporting people to their destinations. They have to find all these answer-ly-reways to make money and you know they've all started their fruit flyer program about 40 years ago and they've made it so efficient to the point where it's like now that's that's all airlines are. It's frequent flyer programs because that's where their fucking money is. That's crazy. Finance is such it is just a nonsense it's all magic just like well yeah it's it's negative it's worth negative nine billion dollars but this like program it's worth 20 billion it's just all a show game it was a bunch of scams it must have been profitable in the past well because they would have
Starting point is 00:26:39 had to be like oh yeah let's keep buying planes this is great well eventually did it just go like well in, in the US, the airline industry changed dramatically in the 70s. I want to say it was probably in the, I think it was in the Carter administration. I could be wrong on that. Airlines used to be regulated by the government. So everything was fixed, like price wise.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Then the whole industry became deregulated so that they really like made them a lot more competitive with each other. And I think it was shortly after deregulation so that they really like make them a lot more competitive with each other. I think it was shortly after deregulation that they came up with a frequent flyer program. So before it didn't really matter because it was all government regulated and then once the deregulation happened, that's when they started letting those capitalist wheels start turning, figuring out ways to make money and to capitalize on it. Yeah. It's a 16 minute video.
Starting point is 00:27:26 I, it's like, it's my jam. I was like, I saw it come up on YouTube. I was like, oh, hell, yes. I'm watching the shit out of this video. Like this was made just for me. But yeah, the other marks. They go, I mean, they figured out like, you know, yeah. People in a free-go-fly program, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:40 are willing to pay 5% more for a ticket with the airline that they're in with their free-go-fly program versus getting no miles on another airline. So it's like, they know how much more you are willing to pay 5% more for a ticket with the airline that they're in with the free flight program versus getting no miles on another airline. So it's like, they know how much more you're willing to pay. Also willing to take shittier flights. Right. From experience. I'm like, I'll take this three hour layover here versus this direct flight with Southwest because I get my American miles on this one. Right. But it's just because you get the benefit eventually from that. Right. Yeah. Like you're going to spend those miles eventually or you're going to get an upgrade or something great. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And also, I talked about it the other day about how airport lounges now won't let you in unless you're flying their airline. Correct. Whereas it wasn't that way before. And so now I'm like, well, if I want to use the lounge, I got a fly. Again, that's it. Yeah, that's a first world problem. That's another one of those things.
Starting point is 00:28:28 And trust me, the video talks about how they figured all of this stuff out. And like all these things that you think are weird, it's like, oh no, like it's them closing loopholes that people have found and trying to make sure like the system is efficient as possible. And it's gotten to the point where now with all of these miles and like they're they're not actually worth money. You can't trade miles out for money, right? But essentially it's like it's its own type of banking and it's own it's its own banking system and the airlines are essentially acting as central banks in this process, figuring out like what
Starting point is 00:29:00 banks they do credit cards with or who they do affinity programs with what the value of a point is like Monaterally, you know, you can't sell it for money. It's like how much they'll sell it to partners for to exchange for rewards like It is it is fucking crazy. It's its own cryptocurrency. This is cryptocurrency words like they were operating their own just like This is operating their own bank like this is all it's all house money as far as it's like yeah a point their own bank. It's all house money as far as it's like yeah a point value list but is worth something within this ecosystem of the airline. Yeah it's it's it's it's it's it's it's maddening. I mean I guess like it's something I you know I haven't flown a lot something I always think about. It's like this this video then just like scratches it like let's go a little further a little deeper you're like what? like it's just like all the information like like all of this is absolutely like especially if they didn't start out with that
Starting point is 00:29:50 intent like what a pivot to that sort of right this isn't effective to make money let's make shit loads of money without flying like basically without doing anything with planes they were already doing that stuff yeah it's just so weird how people like find new avenues down their business that are just ballistically successful. It's also monetizing people. It's like social media, isn't it? Where it's like, yeah, Twitter as a platform or whatever. Twitter is like money being run, but then you can advertise to all these people.
Starting point is 00:30:20 And that's where the money is. Right. It isn't Twitter like massively like Twitter massively bankrupt or in the negative? Yeah. And netflix too. Let's see. Yeah, if you've got like, is it in the red or in the black? In the black is good.
Starting point is 00:30:35 In the black is good. In the black I think is not breaking even. Black is making money. Okay. Red is losing money. Gotcha. What's breaking even? What's right in black put together?
Starting point is 00:30:44 I think that's so rarely happens. That's non-profit or anything. It's breaking even? What's right in black put together? I think that's so rarely happens. That's non profit. It's a sequel to breaking bad. Ah breaking even. So the most recent financial data I have for Twitter was I look at you did a mic drop here. September 2021, the revenue was $1.28 billion. Their net income was negative $536 million. So yeah, okay, so they're in the red. Yes, in the red net profit margin negative 41.81%. But like you said, finance is all like it's all like a shell game and smoking mirrors. Smoking mirrors is a shug game. It's like, yeah, it's all operating on this like people not paying tax.
Starting point is 00:31:29 It's just every you all that key. I mean, you know, I mean, if you want to get really deep with that, just I mean, American, just any money, any currency is the only thing it feels that is our everyone's collective belief that it has value. That's like that it's worth something. And just like as long as we're all into this, you know, delusion together will be fine. Which is why like some governments really don't like cryptocurrency and they don't want it to take off. It's like they don't want a competing standard for their money.
Starting point is 00:31:53 It's like no, don't use that money, that money's trash, use our money, our money's real. Right, well, and like, I guess I just, I guess I saw this today or yesterday, something like like 80% 80 or 85% of all cryptocurrency is owned by like 0.005% of people so it's like this whole like it's decentralized Fuck no, it's
Starting point is 00:32:15 Most of the idea is decentralized, but like the holding is holding is like concentrate super concentrate I mean, that's why it's like one person starts selling off. And then you see like if it's a person with enough crypto start selling, it's like you see the markets die like what happened? Why did the market go down 10% today? Oh, some dude sold four billion dollars worth of cryptocurrency. Yeah, it's just a you know, being touted as like this like a very secure market and decentralized currency like man, that seems really volatile.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I read like ultra volatile. I, a decentralized currency like man that seems really volatile. I read a really in depth story about that dude who threw away a hard drive with like $700 million worth of crypto Bitcoin on it. Ty, wasn't there also sort of someone who forgot their password to? Yes, and he's only got like one chance left to remember it. Yeah. but the story I read was about the guy who threw away the hard drive and like his efforts over like the last 10 or 12 years to try to excavate his town dump to try to find his hard drive. Like he's got another point where he's, you know, he's been petitioning the city for
Starting point is 00:33:19 he's like, he tells the city, I will give you all 25% of the money. What? If you just let me go search for it because he's like, he found the guy who used to manage the dump and the guy who used to manage the dump says, oh, you know, residential trash from that time would be in this part of the dump. Like, they know more or less where it is. He's already got the data recovery people who are like, yeah, if he's able to find the drive, you know, the driver probably won't work,
Starting point is 00:33:40 but we can recover the data off of it. Like, he just needs to get the city's approval to go and dig and the city will not let him go dig for it. Even for like 25% of 700 million. Yeah, it's like they say they say that there's really no chance you can get the data off of it and that it's a big environmental problem to like dig up all that old trash and it's hazardous. That's the treasure of the future is people, there's going to be movies about people like digging for hard drives. Yeah. It's like forget all the gems and the pirate chests and stuff. Hard drives.
Starting point is 00:34:09 It's like a question to Jill. You're not sailing out to an island to dig up buried treasure. You're like going to the center of England to an old dump. Yeah, like an abandoned bespoke. Yeah, you're going to, you're going to like the back of a goodwill, like next to like the old VCRs and stuff. You're like, oh, this old Hewlett Packard take this thing home. We've talked about that a couple times in this thing, like old hard drives, old computer software or like, oh, computer hardware being like sold off or just like
Starting point is 00:34:34 people buy that like Russian like laptop with a bunch of missile plans on it or something. It's like, good grief. Do you have to like, I kind of mentioned being the date of recovery company for doing that if they were working on a drive that had like $19 billion on it would you be like? No, I couldn't find anything and that couldn't get anything off it. Yeah, I don't know what happened rings Lots of cash stuff each dollars. like, did you put on weight? No. No.
Starting point is 00:35:08 No, I always look liled with cash. But that episode of The Simpsons were a march where is that giant coat at the candy fair? Yes. I was thinking of the other Simpsons reference, the giant gold, however, he's like, look again, Lenny, 14, carrot gold. So how much was on that drive in the dump? I want to say it was like $700 million. Let me double check. $700 million like I'm asking for forgiveness, not permission. I'm getting out there with a shovel. I'm going to the dump Yeah, the dark of night with a headlamp and a fucking gas mask and I'm like I'm digging
Starting point is 00:35:42 It was closer to $500 million. The article was titled, half a billion in Bitcoin lost in the dump. It was in Wales. Oh God. It was a story was in the New Yorker came out December 6. It was a fairly, I just read it a couple of weeks. I was just near Wales.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I could have looked. It was August the 2013 that he threw it away. Oh my God. Oh my, sweet God.. Wait, it was and I was speaking of Bitcoin I don't like read something else that like another statistic that's like 80 80% I have number I'm familiar with today. I like a most of crypto or most of Bitcoin has already been mined. I think we're up to like 80 or 90% of the coin has been mined and some day it'll be mine. like 80 or 90% of the coin has been mined. And some day it'll be mine. And the less of it that's left,
Starting point is 00:36:28 the more power and computation it takes to mine it. Right. So like it scales exponentially, which is why like, now it's such a drain on the electrical grid. It's such a drain on, or such a scourge on the planet. I don't understand, it's a finite thing. Yes, there's only so much numbers of the crypto. I don't understand. It's a finite thing. Yes, there's only so much numbers of the crypto
Starting point is 00:36:47 That's going to be available. It's only a bit what it is. They set a limit on it. Who sets a lyric? There's only so much mass I don't like I don't understand how it could be finite thing. It's the person who invented it What's Satoshi Nakamoto or whatever his key goes by? That's why it's called Bitcoin. Yeah, there's so many numbers Eric. Yeah There are but you could just put another face and then there's more numbers I don't know. Are you put a plus sign and then just keep going? Yeah, that's more math. Hey, I thought the same thing for a very long time I had no idea. How is this finite? I didn't know that it was finite. It's right now. I had no idea I think that that's part of it. That's why it has value like you can't if you have an infinite supply of it then it's not going to be worth anything. There is a finite supply which requires more and more work to get which is why the last Bitcoin will take like the power of the
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Starting point is 00:38:38 not to take us down a huge tangent. But we live in Austin, and I see the advertising push for cryptocurrency is strong here. I can't tell you how many, like you can't drive down the road in this town without seeing a billboard, an annoying billboard that says like crypto wastes and then wastes
Starting point is 00:38:55 is crossed out and then says stores energy. And I'm like, based on everything I know about it, that is horse shit. Like there's another one that says like this billboard is an NFT Is it? So valueless like wait Can you buy a space heater that is just like a GPU that's mining? You could probably use that GPU as a space heater. Like if you're buying heat, it's just like a heated
Starting point is 00:39:26 element that just heats just that might as well be the mining sub. Yeah, just it would be an expensive as hell space here. A bank of 3080s. And just like have a mining crypto the entire time. People do do that. I need to admit something. I've been NFTs. People have explained NFTs to me so many times. I still don't get it. You probably understand it, but it seems so stupid that you refuse to believe that that's what it actually is. Is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:39:57 Yeah, that's what's happening. It's a simplest way to explain it would be like an image that's part of the blockchain that you can sell Ownership of and prove ownership of via blockchain. What is the blockchain? It's a it's a public record showing transactions So I could sell you JPEG of a meat like I could create a piece of art and Photoshop Not me. So where would you upload that you can sell it? So there's different platforms that you can use to exchange.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And if you would have to find basically like a crypto wallet, sometimes you can do it in. That has access to a blockchain that can show transaction. You pay me $50. And then in the blockchain, it says, Barbara owns this JPEG. Then you own that JPEG. OK, and what could I do with it?
Starting point is 00:40:45 You could sell it to someone else. To like print it out and like make it a painting in my house. No, the physical representation is not the... You own the digital representation of it. Again, Gus, you put it perfectly, you put it perfectly, which is like, the reason you think you don't understand it is when you hear the explanation and you think, you must think, it can't be that stupid
Starting point is 00:41:06 So it must be way more complicated. Yeah, the fact is it's super not it's just a public record of a transaction of who owns a digital piece of art That might be the hottest thing to explain to a caveman I mean, it's hard enough to explain it to people who have an understanding of modern day technology i.e. me. And it would, I would feel, I would feel somewhat, I, when people have talked about NFTs to me, like my, my brain releases like cognitive white blood cells to fight the information because I, I keep hearing about it. And it's like me.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Is it a, like my brain, it's just an immune response to like hearing about NFTs. it's like my brain is in a immune response to like hearing about enough to make it vaccine for that. Jesus Christ in chat, whether man, NX01 put it great as far as I can figure an NFT is basically a certificate of authenticity. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Yes. And I would feel better about it if they weren't attached to the most dog shit art I have ever fucking seen. These monkeys and lions, this is like sub mental. This is like, this is awful. But like I just don't get it because like people are making fucking bank off of this shit and some people are spent like some things are like worth millions, right?
Starting point is 00:42:22 Like what do you get? What do you get out of it? So it's all arbitrary, right? Like you could make the same argument about traditional art. What's art worth? It's subjective. It's whatever someone's willing to pay for it. If you had the Mona Lisa, you could argue that it's just a bunch of paint on canvas. Right. This is a fantastic segue. We're not going to get a better segue. What? Speaking of paint on canvas. Speaking of paint on canvas.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Since we talked about it a lot on this podcast. What's that in duck and Ft? This is fantastic. What you're interested in. I have brought the original duck painting. Oh! I have the original duck painting here. And I had Ft.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And Ft. Yeah, exactly here. It looks fake. Taking an Ft of it right now. Put it on the screen. Yeah, there you go. We're just gonna pop the Ft. There it is. There, boom. That's just a photo of a duck now put it on the screen. Yeah, there you go
Starting point is 00:43:13 So yeah, this is my gift to you Gus and the gift to the podcast You're giving it to Gus. Yeah, it's a gift to Gus NFT transaction in real time The block chain The blockchain right here Is it fungible? What does fungible mean? Because I was like, it doesn't mean tangible. Because if it's a non-tangible, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:43:33 OK. So what is fungible? So as we've mentioned in a previous podcast title, I hate this painting. But only because it's so good. I can't believe that this is not a picture of a duck. But now looking at it, it's like, this is absolute. Like when you look at it up close, you're like,
Starting point is 00:43:52 oh yeah, it is paint. It's crazy. I asked, in an answer, he said he was wanting to donate the painting to the podcast. Yeah, we should put it up on like the wall or something. Yeah, and I thought we were going to be in that other temporary space until our permanent space. I thought, yeah, that's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:44:07 And then the episode when he's here, we've moved to a different temporary space and we're gonna move again. But we're gonna find a place for this in our, wherever our podcast ends up. A hallowed home for that, for the painting that you hate so much. I love it.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Thank you. It's a great painting. That is it fungible. It is fungible. Yeah, no, that's one of my favorite things about art is the fact that I was like, oh, from like a distance, it just, it looks like a photo becomes a thing.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And it's like the second you step toward it, you see like the, what goes like the components of it, like everything that you're like, I is kind of average. The image of it, like everything that you're like I kind of average out. So close is so cool. Yeah. I think that's like what I have a trouble like with the NFTs and like versus like actual physical real paintings, like there is only one of these.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Whereas everything digitally could just be replicated the exact same way over and over and over again indefinitely. But you could own it. But like, how do you, I guess you could prove it because you own it. It's in the blockchain, it's in the blockchain. But yeah, it's just... If you want to, it's like if you wanted to own the original... Oh my God, goosebumps. Picture.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Yeah, right? You could own that. That could be yours. I would buy that NFC. The... Yeah, yeah. With the Gershbärms. Which is maybe one of my favorites. But yeah, it's just something like there's really no reason and someone a chat I forget who was a while ago someone a chat pointed out it's just there's a lot of money laundering that goes on there and honestly I think it's the same in the art world in the traditional art world. Yeah, true. I think a lot of it's just like trying to clean money up or to move money around. Yeah, there's a lot that goes on with like the unbucked video games.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah, stuff where it's like, hey, this copy of this super-intetic game is a million dollars. I'm like, no, it's not. Someone's just trying to clean up a million bucks. Yeah. Someone's trying to swindle. This episode of the Rishi podcast brought to you by the Matrix Resurrection. The Matrix Resurrection is a continuation of the story of the first Matrix film starring Keanu Reeves and Karyan Moss reunited as Neo and Trinity. It's an unexpected expansion of their story that ventures back into the Matrix and even further down the rabbit hole. I can't wait to see it. Haven't seen it yet. And this mind-bending new adventure, the world is more provocative, reality is more subjective than ever, but I'll need to see the truth is to free your mind.
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Starting point is 00:46:55 description. Just a lot of it, a lot of it through various various areas are I feel like now I feel like the NFTs, crypto cards, I feel like this is now like the new frontier for scams. Like this is now like the place where these things, like even though they are, they are take it, or you know, certificates of authenticity essentially, it really does seem like this is like a new frontier for people to launder money or to like, you know, offline crimes. Yeah, well, I think also, it's a way to swindle people who don't understand to like, you know offline crimes. Yeah, well, I think also it's a way to swindle people who don't understand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Like, you know, the average person may read in their newspaper or see on the news like, oh, people are making a lot of money on NFTs. I'm going to buy some. And of course, you know, if you're just willing to or make some to make some to sell them or I'm going to make one. Yeah. Right now. Just you wait.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Oh, it'll be the best NFT you've ever seen. The Benz NFT. That's enough to home. What was Jeff's NFT? Was it the sandwich? The ham sandwich? Oh, he made one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Who bought it? I don't know. I don't remember and I don't know what happened and I don't know the outcome. And that's where we fuck the worst. We could find out in the blockchain. Yeah. I hope you didn't come here for details, cause we have not.
Starting point is 00:48:10 That's a, I, I, I saw, you know, a pre-YouTube ad role for, and for some reason didn't close it, and we didn't skip it instantly. So I don't know what it was for, or I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what I was watching. But it's Tony Hawk. But Tony Hawk is retiring like five tricks, five of his like signature tricks that he like invented.
Starting point is 00:48:32 He's retiring them, never doing them again and got the last ones on video. The last time he like lands these tricks, got them on video and is then selling that as an NFT which is a kind of video but I can still watch them right no I'm not a lot of you yeah I mean I guess I again I get it's like okay cool like you own then you own Tony Hawk's last trick video I think the Charlie bit my finger video came off YouTube to become an NFT. Yes, I believe you are correct Charlie
Starting point is 00:49:12 You're fungling it It's sold for $760,999. You know what I'm gonna buy Love that video the other day we were in the office and I said, blood, and you were the only person I think who remembered it or he laughed about it. I don't know what that is. I think it was suffering because it's video of kids. I think it was suffering from some sort of monetization
Starting point is 00:49:36 change. Oh, interesting. So they thought, it's useless here now. But it's still like a nice bit of history that's just gone. Well, that's not gone. Well, yeah. Someone wants it. It's just harder to find, I guess. The blood video.
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Starting point is 00:51:15 I have like a phone shaking because the dad is laughing to hard. Like, stupid little kid. I'm gonna make this an F-T. It's 13 years when they're invented. Yeah, geez Christ I'm glad you're glad you I Thought for sure by now like that whole craze would have passed I think it's not as everywhere as it was for a while, but it's still then if he's there's still like All over the place now video games trying to figure out how to incorporate them. It's all for shit
Starting point is 00:51:44 It feels like a real, again, I know. So either I know everything about it or very little about it, but it really does feel like this is the California Fools Gold Rush. Like everyone's trying to get to market with the thing, and then it will be, there will be a moment, I've got a bottle of champagne ready to pop. The second this happens when it's just like, guys, it was all fake. Like everyone gets fleeced, like maybe eight people get out with actual money because they actually turn. It was like a pump and dump scam where they
Starting point is 00:52:13 they put money in, pump it up, be everyone excited, and then it's like liquid eight. And then out of there. And yeah, I just I'm just waiting, I'm waiting for the day because it feels like that it has all the hallmarks of this. Yeah, we'll see a Peter H is investigating the ham sandwich. It's owned by food a shit Food a shit your biggest fan. Philip How much did it go full? I think he's Peter H. Still looking at it, but I keep you updated. Oh there it is Have you guys uh? Seen Spider-Man? No, I have a yeah Yeah. I saw that Spider-Man. I saw that Spider-Man. No spoilers to your question. Of course, but it's good from what I hear everyone seems to absolutely love it. It was a no-holds-barred thrill ride. I was in a good time at the moment. Just whatever like you like, blim flake. Just whatever, like, you know, movie poster,
Starting point is 00:53:06 like standard jargon, they say about movies. I do like, especially, like, there's no- Careful with this boy. No, no, this will be no spoilers relating to this movie. It's too soon. But seeing a Marvel movie opening weekend is hands down one of the best experiences I think you could have as a human.
Starting point is 00:53:22 It's especially if you enjoy Marvel movies. But just like the amount of excitement that people express is like, it just makes it so much fun and you just, I don't know, those like a sense of camaraderie as well. When you do that, like, see endgame and theaters, I think is still one of my favorite memories of all time, personally. Yeah, it was just, and Megan, I would try to watch all of the previous Avengers movies just right before that, Yeah it was just and Megan I would try to watch all of the previous Avengers movies just right before that and it was we were like down to the hours and not how much time we had left it was like I was just hype as I went there was like the amazing thing about endgame that they were able to
Starting point is 00:54:00 capture is that it wasn't just like you were watching those two movies like it was a culmination of 10 years of movies like all these different characters, all these different movies like all kind of converging into like one giant climax. Yeah, I mean that's the most amazing thing about these is just the vision, the long time payoffs that happen. God damn it. Yeah, take a lap. Take a lap. Like I enjoy watching audience reaction videos to end game, just because it's like I just want to relive those moments. I don't think anything more insane has ever happened on a screen in terms of the reaction that I've seen than Captain America take in the hammer. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Oh my God, I was like, it's like the buildings over fell down with the reaction that people had. Just breathing in the theater. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Or when he says Avengers assemble, it's like that was a pretty good moment too.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Talk about Avengers, not Spider-Man, no worry. Yeah, no worry, no worry. Captain America did not say Avengers assemble. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Spider-Man. But he might have. Now we know that he does it. Yeah, Captain America did not say Avengers assemble But he might of now we know that he doesn't Man, sorry That's what that was gonna happen. Yeah, by saying it doesn't happen You're you're giving away details about the movie you actually spoiling it. Yeah, I saw a very funny
Starting point is 00:55:19 Tick-tock that I posted on Instagram because I loved it so much But it was this guy and it's car being like all right, so I'm about to see Spider-Man. I'm going to do my reaction after I see the movie. So when I come back, I'll have already see, and it just cuts in going, oh my God! Yes! It's just so great. Very good. And accurate.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Definitely see it. Yes. I'll probably wait for it to start streaming. Really? I didn't know the theater experience though. I didn't see it turnles and probably won't. It's coming to streaming next month. Sure. I just like every piece of like trailer, every bit of marketing for it. I just like, this looks like a movie.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And this looks like a movie and like a property that like it would be another world's version of Marvel. Does this is what I'm saying, like any sense? Yeah, I know. Alternate reality Marvel or something? If you had a TV show about make, if you were there was like a TV show, it was like 30 Rock or something,
Starting point is 00:56:30 show that about making movies and media, it turnles looks like a movie from that world about this huge superhero movie conglomerate. It feels like one step removed from our reality. Just like, I know what you mean. You know what I mean? Like it has this like, it was being an uncanny valley earlier.
Starting point is 00:56:50 It feels like very just like, yeah, inaccessible in a weird kind of way that just turned me off. I remember watching Silicon Valley where Kumail Nanjiani gets super buff all of a sudden one season. And he's, what's going on here? And then you realize that he was preparing for a turn.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yeah, he was on the podcast when they were promoting Stuber. Yeah. And I remember when we started and we were like, and you're really buff, he's like, I've got a great, you know, he couldn't, he was a nasty, he's like, I've got a role, I'm training for, he's like, super excited about it. I was like, man, that dude is fucking ripped down. Yeah, like one season apart, he just like fucking jacked. It's like, well, what happened there?
Starting point is 00:57:29 It's like Chris Pratt on a parks and wreck. He's gonna get like super fit at one point on one season. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Deemed Guardians. Yeah. And they even make for as I recall, like Ben asks and like, hey, did you lose weight? Did you like a lot of weight? He said I stopped drinking beer.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Oh, it's like, that's it. It was like, I drink a lot of beer. A lot of beer. The MCU is freaking crazy though, considering they have, I think now they have more movies than the James Bond franchise. James Bond started in 1962. They did it within like a 11 year or 12 year time span. And now we also have like all the
Starting point is 00:58:12 Television series to that Disney Plus is putting out. Mm-hmm. I don't know if you guys are watching Hawkeye. No Nah, no, I'm on the only one. It's good. It's actually very enjoyable. I can't bring myself to watch it. I don't know I probably will eventually maybe when they're all out I can't bring myself to watch it. I don't know. I probably will eventually. Maybe when they're all out. It's because the first episode and then you'll love it. Speaking of Bond movies, and movies, did you see the last Bond movie? The no time limit.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I'm waiting for it to stream. Jesus, God. It's streaming for 20 bucks right now. I don't want to pay 20 bucks to stream it. I'll stream it when it's like six. Eric. Yeah. 40X.
Starting point is 00:58:40 That's a great way. That's not movies to me. Like if these movies were playing in 40X, I would see them in 40X. They're Spider-Man is playing in 40X. I would see like it. I feel like you'd like going to the movie theater in like England. Yeah. Why is it very like people keep to themselves? No, but he really, I mean, when I look at the no one, I can't imagine anyone like screaming out in a movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to be like, I'm not going to the movie theater in England. Is it quite a quiet... People keep to themselves. Look, nobody really, I mean, when I look at them,
Starting point is 00:59:07 I kind of imagine anyone screaming out in a movie. Yeah, it's your order food at the Alamo there and it's all fish and chips. Yes, right. Or Tika Masala. I mean, that's all you can do to your options. Yep. Likrish Pizza is coming out this weekend,
Starting point is 00:59:19 the new Paul Thomas Anderson movie. Yeah. And I'm really like, what? Like, I really want to see it. Really? You're the one. I want to see it. Do you hear us in? Yeah, and I'm really like what like I really want to see it really you're the one I want to see it do you You're saying yeah, I don't I don't think that guy makes a movie that misses man like really yeah, why the movies is he Yeah, he did I mean he made an inherent vice he made a
Starting point is 00:59:37 Puncher love boogie nice there will be blood the master heart eight He's made like Phantom Thread I really like I really love these movies. I'm really excited. I'm super hot and super cold with him. Really? I think he's either amazing or terrible. There's no middle ground with him. So I'm really excited to see this, but it's at like Alam. I was hoping that it was showing you the AFS. That felt like it was going to be a big sort of thing and be fine. But now it's like, do I want to go opening weekend to go see this movie with all these people who are also like, I don't know, it just like with all the food and everything. One does it come out like this weekend. Oh, Christmas.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Everyone's going to be seeing Spider-Man and Matrix. I just looked at tickets and it's like it's packed. Yeah, trying to get tickets for this is like, I'll just go like midday on that. I have a question about that movie because I've seen the trailers for it. Yeah, yeah, which is the Chris pizza? The girl in that movie, because I've seen the trailers for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which one? The Crush Pizza? The Girl Not Movie. This is gonna sound real mean, because it is. Is she 16 or like 60? No, no, it's, it's, one of the girls from Hame.
Starting point is 01:00:33 She's a scurrying. She's, she's in a bank called Hame. She just, she looks like she could be any age. I think she's like 30. I mean, I think it's, Okay. Just put it off, just right there in the middle. It's a very weird movie where Paul Thomas Anderson
Starting point is 01:00:44 is making a movie about how much he loved his art teacher when he was like younger and then cast the art teachers. She just heard it. You're right. Really? Yeah, people saying let that be a lot. Let that be a lesson to all your kids out there. If you have deep psychological issues, just become a world celebrated artist and literally work out all your issues through your no
Starting point is 01:01:07 sublimation just like absolutely work everything out you need to. I don't need therapy. I made punch drunk love exactly precisely. It's so funny. I was just talking about this the other day about the master which I remember seeing in the theater. There's in that Phil Seymour Hoffman and Joaquin Phoenix. It's basically like the not Scientology, but totally Scientology movie. And I remember seeing in the theater and not and being like, I didn't really like that. And then it's all I wanted to talk about for like a two and a half months.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And I was like, I think that movie I didn't like is my favorite movie of me. Because it's all I wanted. It's like, did you see the mask? Let's talk about it. All I wanted to do. I did the exact same thing. I just went, I don't know how I feel about that.
Starting point is 01:01:51 And then for a quarter of the year, just kept going, that movie was crazy. Yeah, let's talk about this movie. It affected me. It was like, well, I guess that was it. That was my favorite movie of the year. The chat has let me know by the way that English people do screaming movies now Oh really, yeah, someone said spider-man was the first
Starting point is 01:02:11 Two people in chat two separate people in chat said in the UK They saw the new Spider-Man movie and people were clapping and cheering If spider-man's in 40 x I will go see it in 40 x. Let's do it. Okay, cool. We want to watch it again I'll absolutely go see I only person my wife saw it like you didn't go see it in 40x. Let's do it. Okay, cool. Because we want to watch it again. Oh, I'll absolutely go see. I'll go. I'm the only person my wife saw it like you didn't go with it. They there was one extra ticket and I just want you go. I don't care. How nice. Yeah. I watched Kung Fu movies on Amazon Prime. It was great. Trevor and I just saw a don't look up. It's like a. Oh, yeah. It's in theaters. Adam, okay. Yeah. Is that already on Netflix? That's coming to Netflix.
Starting point is 01:02:46 I don't know if it's already on Netflix, but it's a Netflix movie. So I imagine it'll be there soon, but we've had to see in theaters yesterday for his birthday. And it was a. Oh boy. Poignant. I don't know if I brought this up.
Starting point is 01:02:58 I'm sorry, I'm talking so much about camera. I think don't look up as the culmination of everything I hate about cinema, in one movie like based on the trailer It is it looks exhausting in a way where these people are trying to get this point across and no one will listen Oh, I just don't go see it's hell. I'm in hell. It's it seems awful. It is anxiety the movie. Yeah, that is exactly how I feel about it I thought it was great. I it's like it looks it looks, here's like, it looks great. It, Adam and Kay, awesome, fantastic. Everyone in it looks tremendous. It's making an incredibly salient, uh, uh, exigent point, and I don't think I can bring myself
Starting point is 01:03:36 to watch it because I know, I know it's just like, yeah, I mean, it's an allegory for the crime, the crime, the crime is like, we have a giant meteor ahead of Dora's and no one's doing anything about it. And it's just like, I, pigs con the cup. Wait a minute. Excellent point. Is that a, is that a political opinion?
Starting point is 01:03:53 No, I'm scared. No, but it's one of those movies where you leave the theater with a person who you were seeing with and you're just kind of quiet when you're like walking out. And then after like a little bit you go so Shit I'm not have kids. Oh Yeah, it's a it's very interesting though, and I think it's a I don't know
Starting point is 01:04:17 I don't want to say an important movie because I don't really think that that's the case, but I Don't know I would see it if you're if you're interested even a little bit. Well, I'm happy it's gonna be streaming soon. Yeah, there you go. That's the way I like to watch it. Yeah, it's stacked up. It's got like Merrill Street, Leonardo DiCaprio, Jennifer Lawrence, Arianna Grantez in it. Which is... Did you just have a sick home fierce just set up to watch all these movies? I liked where home set up. I wouldn't say it's sick or anything. I didn't like anything crazy about it, but it's comfortable. I did I did calibrate all the sound for one spot on my couch. It's like if I'm gonna watch
Starting point is 01:04:52 something that I'm really into, it's like I don't sit in my normal spot. I got to sit in that spot. Like that's where everything is configured for. She can sit next to me. There's like a sound dead zone right next to you I was like I can't Like it all comes in oh my god. I'm imagining like a nice big couch set up like even like one of those you couches and Estes just in your spot and you're like Listen about a put the movie on you mind like a holy like a ticket like this my seat I know about a put the movie on. You mind a, this is like a holy like a ticket like this, my seat.
Starting point is 01:05:26 It get out. There is something. I think there's something so, I don't know why this, this idea tickles me, but it's so funny to think about someone with a like unbelievably, just absolutely tricked out like home theater set up, but watching like broadcast like local TV on it and hearing like commercials for the general like it's just like don't be thx surround sound like 50 you know people. Yeah, exactly
Starting point is 01:05:54 watching like local TV and seeing commercials. Um, that old 1080. Yeah, exactly. Speaking of local things, you guys hear the news about Charles Mon. Hell, yeah. Eric Charles Mon. Eric Charles Mon. Eric Charles Mon. Have you heard this guy Charles Mon, or Eric Charles Mon? It's, I guess he's like the owner of a dealership here in Austin.
Starting point is 01:06:16 So Charles Mon is a dealership. I think he's grandfather who started it. He's like the grand son of the original founder of the dealership. A good old murderous fail son. Yeah, he hired a hitman last year to kill two people in Nashville and I guess got arrested. Yeah, I think when everyone in Austin heard that like a car dealership person was a arrested for hiring an assassin. Everyone assumed it was Scott Elder, right? Like, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Before the people. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, oh man, they got Scott Elder. Charles Monde. Yeah. Who? What? Did they get killed?
Starting point is 01:06:57 Yeah. Yeah, two people killed in March of 2020. I think it was. I think you paid like $750,000. $1,000,000. That's amazing. It still got caught. The way I found out about it was West Ellis message me on Instagram. He sent me the post from the statesman about this and said breaking Eric Charles Monde Austin auto magnate hired hit men to kill ex girlfriend and her boyfriend federal prosecutor
Starting point is 01:07:20 so Ledge. And then he said, I'm losing my mind. And I went, do you know them or something? Because I didn't register like who this guy was, and I was like, oh, wait, the car guy? Charles Monde, Toyota? Do you think, like 750,000? Do you think it was like 400,000 a hit,
Starting point is 01:07:37 but he got like a deal, but he's like, it's like, well, they were both in the same car together, and I've done up to travel. That is messed up. Yeah. Good Lord. And it was just for was like, well, they were both in the same car together. I don't know if they don't have to travel. That is messed up. Yeah. Good Lord. And just for some like, I think revenge, they were trying to extort him.
Starting point is 01:07:52 If I remember the story correctly, oh, shit, a sorted tail. Yeah, and he hired the assassin just to try to put an ink to the extortion plot. I'm Scott Elder and I'm a killer for the people, for the people, only funny to all of us. Yeah, I'll make exactly that's If you live in real Austin inside baseball right there Uh, it's Scott Elder still around I don't feel like I've seen a TV for a little while. Is he?
Starting point is 01:08:16 I'm on an ankl man. Okay, you like how long ago I feel like I've had seen Scott Elder like in six months have we checked on him? Boy the people I haven't seen Scott elder like in six months have we checked on it or the people Ruthless game he's always doing he's always doing the rhymes. He's like he's from the old I love Scott elder because I'm yelling to yeah Yeah, cuz he's I think he puts the mic like way back here and does everything at that like cadence that sounds like he's like like, you know. I'm Scott Elder for the people. Yeah, it's sort of monotone anyway. You could probably find two dozen who don't live in Austin.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Do yourself a favor and find yourself some commercials of Scott Elder because he is from that old school of radio commercials, where it's just like find a bit and do that for 50 years. I feel like I have heard his TV commercials on the radio, right? It's like they don't need to do anything. They just lift the audio from the TV commercial and be like, look, we could just reuse this same audio. Boom. Now it's radio spot.
Starting point is 01:09:16 I'm 100% gonna have to record anything else. Nope, that's it. Exactly. Absolutely. Local trauma. No, I'm just a back. We were talking about movies I don't know. I just did back. We were talking about movies for a little while. Have you all seen the trailer for everything
Starting point is 01:09:28 everywhere all at once? Yes. Yeah. 100%. I am here for that movie. Get I don't recall lots of my saw trailer that like made me like stand up. Yeah, I was like holy fuck like I'm into this.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I watched it. It was done. Then I was like I'm going to watch it again. Like I hit the rewatch button to like I'm into this. I watched it. It was done. Then I was like, I'm going to watch that again. Like I hit the rewatch button to watch it one more time. What's this about? It's, yeah, it's, it looks really interesting. It's a, it's a movie with Michelle Yo and it's like, she's just like an everyday kind of person, just like kind of piddling about her life. And then like something happens. And then like something happens and then like you can see like all kinds of different realities of her. And it's like she can access the memories and skills of every version of her across every different alternate reality. It's a multiverse movie. Yeah, it's a live action movie. It's like all of the different multiverses. Like
Starting point is 01:10:19 Gelly is the one, but she doesn't have to kill everyone. Exactly. She gets all of their skills. It's a good reference. And it has a really cool look to it. It's directed by the Daniels. The Daniels. Who did Swiss Army men? It was the cousin. Everything everyone was with. Everything everywhere all at once.
Starting point is 01:10:37 Sounds like a boba. It looks fucking tight. She's such a great like movie star, like action. I love her. Police story and like all these awesome Jackie Chan movies and stuff. Crouchy Tiger. Dude, it's so cool.
Starting point is 01:10:50 I'm so excited. She's in Changchee, right? And Changchee, yeah. Tomorrow never dies. What a bond movie. There you go. I mean, yeah, that's not really, that's kind of a bummer. But everything else, great.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Apparently on that movie, they had to bring in like a Chinese stunt team because the way she would do her action scenes all of the like British stuntmen were getting her. Like real. I think it was like that's bad ass. Well, it was like Jackie Chan's stunt team. Probably that was man. I love watching any kind of like behind I live for the like bloopers and outtakes at the end of Jack Chan movies because just like, oh, they did all of these things. Oh yeah, they just like he jumped through a ladder
Starting point is 01:11:36 and got stuck. It's like 40 times. And just like, yeah, watch these guys get like, smack the fuck up with like bamboo canes and chips Some of the scenes in like like the early stuff like the of the first police story You got people just going through plate glass, and you're like how did they do that? It's like they did it once and the guy went hospital I'm glad we were rolling
Starting point is 01:12:01 Yeah, you went off the floor. I do it again for focus It was a little soft the goggles. They do nothing We were rolling. Yeah, he went off the third due to get for focus. It was a little soft. The goggles. They do nothing. Ziggoggles, the new Matrix movie. I want to put the stunt budget was on that because holy crap. Even from the trailers, it's just like non-stop stunts. Yeah, it's a. Guimaxi Neena trailers.
Starting point is 01:12:23 And not until I went in source by theMan was the first time I saw a trailer. Oh, trailer was a wank. Yeah, it's just a lot. I hope the movie's good. Feel the same way. We're gonna find out in a couple of days. Right. Yeah. It's weird to not be excited about Matrix movie. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I mean, I want to be, I love the Matrix. Be excited. Just tell yourself to be. They don't know this, but I recorded an ad-read for the matrix. So they don't know that that happened. Oh, I see. No, you say whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:12:51 You just say whatever you want. I don't want people to think that you're only saying what you say because I had to do an ad-read. You didn't know that before you started. Yeah. The matrix brought you by our parent company. Oh, God. I just started rewatching them.
Starting point is 01:13:04 In anticipation, rewatching the Matrix, who's in anticipation of the Matrix this Wednesday, and then on Friday I watched the original Matrix, I was like, yeah, it was awesome. And I sat down and watched it beginning to end in a long time, like just cut little bits of pieces. I was like, yeah, it was great. I'm gonna start watching Reloaded.
Starting point is 01:13:17 And I got like 45 minutes in a reload, and I was like, yeah, I'm good. See, I, whenever I do my, I've rewatched the Matrix trilogy several times, and I don't think I've ever watched the third movie. Like the first one, amazing. Amazing. Great cinema. Second one, I feel like I sort of like more each time I see it.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Even the goofy like bowling pin sounds and the burly brawl and all that stuff. I got up to the burly brawl starting and I was like, no, I'm gonna wait. I stopped and then I finished in the movie the next day. But then I get like 20 minutes into the third movie and I just gonna wait. Like I stopped, I ain't never finishing the movie the next day. But then I get like 20 minutes into the third movie and I just stop it, like get distracted or like need to go and do something and I just never pick it back up. It's really hard movies to get through.
Starting point is 01:13:52 I'm gonna try to watch it either tonight after this or tomorrow before the new one comes out on Wednesday. Yeah, I bet I said if you need to have seen. They are very clear in all of the marketing material, it is a spiritual successor to the first one. Okay, that's what I thought, because I've seen the first one. I think that-
Starting point is 01:14:08 I think that- I think they're probably trying to make you forget that the second and third existed, and they're trying to go from the first one to this. Which I understand. Interesting. The third one was, and the second one was like, it's like vampires and shit.
Starting point is 01:14:23 It is so weird. Oh yeah, and the second one, there's that thing where she's like, they're hard to kill. How many of you walk around with a silver bullets in their gun? And she shoots the one guy? Oh, wait, I was watching Underworld. Fuck, I'm so sorry. I was watching. Oh, it's it.
Starting point is 01:14:36 They're like, yeah, vampires. They were from an earlier version of the Matrix. vampires wear wolves aliens. They were from an earlier... What is the iteration of the matrix? What is it end up then? That the matrix is like the seventh matrix or something is not definitely the first one.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Keanu Reeves Neal was, who's the sixth of the seventh? I don't remember which, but yeah, I was like the sixth or seventh iteration of... And how long does an iteration last? I think what if I remember right with the architect Sessie doesn't measure it in years he measures it in the number of the ones. So it's like there is no concept of years. It's just like six iteration or seventh iteration. But in reality, if this is a continuation of our timeline, how long have humans been growing in politics? I
Starting point is 01:15:21 don't know. I think they're intentionally vague about that. Like even in the first matrix, they guess that it's the year 2199, if I remember right? Okay. Because I think like they've lost track of time. Carrie and Moss has aged like fine wine. Yeah. My goodness. I feel like when we were watching it on Friday, we did a watch party on RTTV for it. I think I realized that Trinity in the first Matrix movie was my sexual awakening in multiple ways, but like she looks real good currently. I'm just like very impressive because it's been one.
Starting point is 01:15:58 The first matrix came 99. Holy shit. Man, at the 99, what are you for movies? That one incredible year for movies. Just line them up. What else you got? Matrix the end of list. No, I'm looking it up here. Oh, yeah, impressive. The top four movies I'm looking the rest of them episode one the Phantom Menace the what a year for movies a year the sixth sense Toy Story 2 excellent Austin Powers the Spy of Shagme the Mummy
Starting point is 01:16:33 Ah Blair Witch Mummy Whatever year what was it those two Jim Carrey movies? Same Private Ryan wasn't that 99 as well a story. I'm not sure if I can get a little bit of a story. I'm not sure if I can get a little bit of a story. I'm not sure if I can get a little bit of a story. I'm not sure if I can get a
Starting point is 01:16:49 little bit of a story. I'm not sure if I can get a little bit of a story. I'm not sure if I can get a little bit of a story. I'm not sure if I can get a little bit of a story. I'm not sure if I can get a
Starting point is 01:17:00 little bit of a story. I'm not sure if I can get a little bit of a story. I'm not sure if I can get a little bit of a story. I'm not sure there I remember when I feel very Andy Rooney. I just remember like speaking of the Matrix, just how like unique that movie looked, everything about it, just like the color grading, like the cinematography, like everything about it felt so unique. And it just really speaks to like that time, especially like you think about all those
Starting point is 01:17:22 movies on that list from 1999, All of them looked so visually distinct. There was something like the look about all those like movies, had their own like visual style and very, I just feel like a lot of stuff has just gotten very homogenized over like the past like 20 years, just in terms of like the way stuff looks. Someone, I can't remember, I think I'm out of seeing this on Twitter, but they were talking about how this on Twitter, but they were talking about how I think it's they call it like the brown like fuzz or the brown like goo or something that just like what it like exists almost like over all color grades for cinema right now. And then it's just like it looks like there's there's something about like the way that the movies have been color graded, especially like action adventure stuff over the past like five or six years
Starting point is 01:18:06 that like looks fucking disgusting. I'm like, it's not until you like really like someone points it out and you start comparing your like, oh movie to movie to movie, like all these action movies like share this like like film over the blacks and stuff that like make it look pretty. So I it's it just looks very disgusting. I feel like everything, like film and video games
Starting point is 01:18:27 both operate in cycles like that. Like they're not doing the same look, but they'll get caught up in looks and like games will emulate this one look or film emulate this one look like after born identity came out. Like all action movies were like shaky cam, like quick cuts, you can't really see. Yeah, any action, no music.
Starting point is 01:18:44 Yeah. Can we get that filter on the RT podcast from now on? That's real grungy. I honestly don't like it when you notice the color in films. I've walked away from some films just being like, that movie was green. You're talking about the green in the Matrix, but it's kind of like bluish out. I feel like that's intentional as part of the story. But I think it's like the second born movie, like the born supremacy or something. It's just like the whole movie's green.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Yeah. And then you watch like lie, lie. And it's like, that's a brown movie. You've got something I'd take away from these films. Like just too brown. Just yeah, distracting. Just distractingly color. Yeah, I'm never gonna not see it.
Starting point is 01:19:25 I'm gonna start watching movies and just notice like up the brown goo on it now. Yeah, just like think about like, I don't know, I can stuff like about visually like sticks out to me when I see it. I'm just like, what am I, usually it's like, what am I not like about this?
Starting point is 01:19:38 And then we can be like, what's actually happening. It's like, I think there's something visually gross about this. That like, maybe I'm not consciously picking up on my brother. Just Kevin Spacey's in it. There it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Yeah, American Beauty was on that list. A 99. There are some style choices in movies that I guess they were going for a style, but it's just so distracting to me. We were watching through all the screen movies. And I think screen 4, I might have mentioned this before, it's like they've got Vaseline on the lens in every shot, it's like nothing is sharp, everything's like blue me and just a bit mucky and it disgusts me, it's the guy with a Ah, what if they just wiped shit on the back? Because then you would get the Vaseline Brown goo. There you go.
Starting point is 01:20:29 A combination of the two. Let's do it practical, in practical. Yeah, I like that look on older movies, like the kind of like, synabloom look from like 80s movies and stuff, or like neon, like Blade Runner, or stuff like really, where lights really kind of like gauze out and get really like stylized and cool.
Starting point is 01:20:47 I like it from the A of that era, but for some reason when it's recreated now, it always just kind of comes. I think the differences, maybe your brain knows that like in the 80s when they did that, it was like an actual neon light that they were filtering. Whereas if you watch it now, it's a computer, it's like an Unreal Engine five rendering of a neon light
Starting point is 01:21:07 with like a particle effect thrown in, not in post. And what's also so funny and interesting about that is I feel like so many of those looks that you think about that are so like iconic or classic like you think about Blade Runner and how it's like, oh man, the neon lights are like blooming, it's all it's like rainy and stuff,
Starting point is 01:21:24 there's a lot of steam everywhere. All that stuff was done to hide the fact that they were filming it on a set. They made it rainy and steamy and like, you do all these lights out so you couldn't see. See what, like the fact that it's like, oh yeah, like the set ends right there. And that alley is just like scaffolding.
Starting point is 01:21:40 It's like, they did all that stuff to creatively. They created a look to creatively like hide the like budgetary shortfalls and like, they did all that stuff to creatively, they created a look to creatively hide the budgetary shortfalls and then the sets. So it's like a creative solution became a distinctive look of something, which I think is really, really good. I mean, that's what forces you to be more creative, right?
Starting point is 01:21:59 It's like working within your limitations. When you don't have endless money and endless options when you're like put in a box, you're like, this is what you have, this is what you can work with. They're like put in a box You're like this is what you have this is what you can work with you like well, all right And this is all we got we got we got to make this work. Yep. That's why I went a lot of big directors get access to All money that films get really shit Because they're not like working around some limitation that causes like a really cool effect Right yet. They're not like you just start getting solutions, not creative solutions,
Starting point is 01:22:27 where it's just like, well, I can just, we throw enough money at this, I can like fix it. And it's like also to, typically with those unlimited budgets, you get no like creative friction. So like with, you know, one person's vision taken to its like, you know, budgetary extreme rarely like produces like a product that's, you know, super-designed.
Starting point is 01:22:54 A lot of like first movie and like a series whether it's like a monster like George with the shark and alien and stuff. So you barely see the damn thing because it's hard to get that effect realistically or the shark doesn't work and stuff like that to the part where it's like a much scarier movie. And now they're like CG and aliens all over the place. It's like, I don't know why I'm wanting this. I love that in the original alien. They thought about putting the alien costume on a dog
Starting point is 01:23:18 and having it run around to be the alien. Yeah, like that. There's photos on the set of a dog wearing the alien costume. Because they're like, maybe this will make it work. Maybe this will make it scary. It's like a gray hound wearing the alien costume. But that thing was big, wasn't it? In the final version, yeah. Yeah, but it's like this is one of the iterations that we're working on. They're like, maybe this will be what works. I'll say this though, speaking of like visual effects and stuff like that, I think we're getting close because Dune was maybe the like that movie was about as close as my brain
Starting point is 01:23:52 has ever gone to. Oh no, that's a city in the desert. Right. Like, that was phenomenal. Yeah. The visual stuff in that movie really blew me away. But then when you start to think about like, oh, they're just behind a giant green screen right now. Like, I don't want to separate myself from reality here. Yeah, I think that's like, for the longest time, it's just like, oh no, yeah, it's a fake building. Or, you know, fake super, ah!
Starting point is 01:24:19 The dog hair conch. But that was a dog alien in the third alien, maybe, though. I think this was the third alien with the other. It's our intestine in barely. Yeah, that was like a pot of plot that gets in a dog alien in the third alien maybe though. I think this is this was the third Yeah, that was like a pot of plot that like gets in a dog man. Oh, that's the that's the David Fincher Or yeah, that was the third one right yeah How was this like first movie or second movie or something like that? They gave him like that franchise and the man the third alien movie is not great It's one of those ones like keep wanting to love. I'm like, well put it on. It's like, the third one's not that bad.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Yeah, I've seen it once, so I just remember thinking like, no. Apparently everyone should just stop it too, for everything. Every minute. Every minute. Every minute. Every minute.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Every minute. Every minute. Every minute. Every minute. Every minute. Every minute. Every minute. Every minute. Every minute. Every minute. Every minute. and it's like, on screen, even that giant queen alien, like snapping off the thing and coming down, looks amazing.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Incredible. And I don't know how they did that. That thing was ginormous. It was such a big, fricking puppet, animatronic thing, I guess. Yeah. Mind blowingly good for how much you see the monster. Yeah, I think it's, Ash been talking about,
Starting point is 01:25:23 like in Jurassic Park, there's only like, I think like in total, like four minutes of CGI in Jurassic Park, the rest it's like, the rest it's practical or puppets. And it's like, be only used CGI where they couldn't get away with like, doing it practically. And it's like, aha, that's why I feel like
Starting point is 01:25:40 there was, there was like a very sharp peak for like, with Jurassic Park for like visual effects. Yeah, I think it was a lot of wide shots as well. Yeah, exactly. When you can, again, like, go back to your analogy of the painting, like when you can look at it from afar, it's like your brain does a lot of the filling in. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Then you get in close, you're like, oh, wait, this doesn't look like how I thought it was. What is shit? She's kidding. He's very, very good. Yeah, when you look at this duck painting, band, it is like blows. I was asking about this the other day,
Starting point is 01:26:07 how I'm pissed off that as I've gotten older, cameras at the same time have also gotten better. I think about this so much, I'm like, why couldn't cameras just get worse? Like just to make us look less wrinkly, and less detailed. Oh man, oh, oh. This space cannot support an HD closeup. to make us look less wrinkly and less detailed. This space cannot support an HD close-up.
Starting point is 01:26:28 You don't understand. Stay back there. This is awful. But on the flip side, the technology to be a VTuber is becoming more and more accessible and easier. So you can preserve yourself forever. Currency of your Unreal Engine 5 camera. Hey! Yeah. Hello.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Just like, I'm 32. I got like three years left in me in the entertainment industry, right? Right like You were taking let's be real here. So maybe Vtuber is my future. That's how I live on forever Yeah, that's true We're getting close to having to wrap up I wanted to mention this earlier, I just told you forgot. We have the very normal podcast tour that's kicking off.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Soon, January 15th here in Austin. You can see it. You can check out information at rkxevet.com. And maybe, oh, there it is. You can scan that QR code that's down over there. I think last time we mentioned it, tickets were only on sale for first members. Now they're on sale for the general public, anyone could go buy them. So if you heard us talking about it before and you couldn't buy a ticket,
Starting point is 01:27:34 hey, guess what, we're talking about it again. And now you can, if you're not a first member, go check it out please. We know we have RISTIP podcasts and Face Jam both on the docket, RISTIP podcasts here in Austin Face Jam up in Chicago. Can you get a thing that detects a QR code on the screen instead of having to pull out a phone to look at it? I think that's just, I think you're talking about a link. I think that's just a link.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Yeah, I mean, I'm watching a video, Eric. Yeah, QR code pops up. My browser detects or my app detects of this account. I think he wants to go to this link. I think that's a thing that like iPhones do now, don't they? If they just like one on the screen, I think if you take a photo of it, there's like stuff like that. I don't know if it's in video. It'll detect things on your screen to go. Hey, do you want to click on this thing? Hey, do you want to know where to buy this? Your browser will automatically print your QR code
Starting point is 01:28:25 from your printer, wireless printer, that's connected on your network. And then you take a picture of that, and that will take you. I had something speaking of along those lines. I had a receipt, remember I told the story about my package. I got to fill it up. I had a receipt with the tracking number on it.
Starting point is 01:28:39 And I didn't want to lose the receipt. So just to be safe, I took a photo of it with my phone. And then I was looking at the photo on my phone and my phone underlined the tracking to lose the receipt. So just to be said, I took a photo of it with my phone. And then I was looking at the photo on my phone and my phone underlined the tracking number on the receipt. I was like, oh, that's pretty cool. I just clicked on the tracking number in the photo and it automatically, you can also copy and trace the package.
Starting point is 01:28:54 But it's like, oh, that's pretty cool. It also does the thing where it could like read texts in pictures now, right? So you could like transcribe essentially. Isn't that exactly what you just said? I mean, like, if you like take a picture of something that has like let's say a picture of a book, it'll type it out for you. Not just like identify with it.
Starting point is 01:29:11 I ever see it as a short book. It's a very short book. Unless you're going to see the ass am I right? My right folks. Here's a book about the rose. Here the roses. I'll be holiday. Happy Christmas.
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