Rooster Teeth Podcast - Blaine Burns Everyone - #453

Episode Date: August 25, 2017

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How are we friends? Why are we friends? Because we've been friends for a while. Sex and money would be the short answer. No, you and I met in college because I was interested in meeting Zach Anner and then by proxy just happened to meet you. Yeah, that's it. That's, that's, I mean, I think though,

in college, you tend to flock around people that you also think are like Talented and you are creative people. Hopefully. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's kind of how like we end up being a little bubble of people Yeah, cuz we so we were we started college in 2005. Yeah, fall of 2005 at University of Texas and there was there was like There was a small group of people who were making cool stuff But then also making a lot of stuff outside of class and And we're in, there was a couple of film clubs. Ufo was one of them. And yeah, I know I made an effort to gravitate towards people that I thought were talented in whose co-tails or wheelchairs I could ride.

Yeah. So, yeah. We knew, look, there's Max on the little side. There's Max. Now, Max, this is a true story. Max, I met when he was 16 years old in a hotel room. Yeah. That did happen. Great, really? Yeah. That's true.

That's actually true. I responded to a Craigslist ad. He did. Again, not a joke that actually happened. Yeah. For what? And we made a movie. We made a movie. What was your Craigslist ad? That's a true story, by the way. That's true. Weirdly presented ones.

Yeah, no context. We did a 48 hour film competition. And so for some reason, we had rented a friend, Randy had rented a hotel room as the base of operations. Yes, right next to a strip club. Right next to a strip club. Yeah. Perfect 10 now. I think it was.

It was sugar as back then. It was a classic. And then we had you show up, Emily Hagen showed up. Yeah. I think it was like 13 at the time. Yes, it was, it was not appropriate. It was. Yeah. And we all made love. The, you were, you were very different in college, Max. You were very different in college. How so?

You were straight then, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, at least you hadn't come out, not saying you were, I don't know. We divide Max's time into two eras. There is one he was straight and one he was gay. So this is the straight era. Yeah. What era are you in, Josh? I'm right on the edge. I'm about to flip out to pop. Yeah. It is, it's anytime now. We'll do a livestream for that. Oh, is that an extra life? Yeah, cool. Okay, it was a thing. I really didn't, I had no idea that you were gay at all. Is that, I don't know.

And then, and then, and then whenever I could see that, because I'm so, I'm so masked, but yeah. Well, no, but like in college. Yeah, bro. And then, uh, and then at some point someone was like, oh yeah Max Gay now. And I'm like, oh, news to me. I had it wasn't no. Let me tell you how Max presented this to me too.

We went out to Chili's and it was me and two friends. I think everyone knew but me. And he gave a pop quiz. He's like, I'm going to tell you four things. And one of them is true and the rest are fake. And it was like, one, I'm dating Emily, two, I can't remember what the other ones were. One was that you were gay, and then there were like,

two other like fake outs, but that, he did it like a game show. What did you guess? I guess the Emily one actually. I was like, yeah, I guess it had never occurred to me. I had to. The correct answer was all of the above. It was all. Yeah.

I mean, the correct answer was all of the above. But what will this now become like a question about Max Kelly? Did you do that with your parents too? Yes. Did you really? Yeah, I tried to, you know, game it up a little bit. It did not go well. It wasn't that they were like offended or anything. They just didn't understand what the hell it was talking about for about 15 minutes. And yeah, it's great.

Did you give them like an extreme, though? Because I remember, so I watched Steel Magnolia's a lot as a kid, which my mom loves. I can quote that entire movie to you, but there's a part where one of the characters, they're telling a story about one of the characters that had come out and they said one of the options they gave was that he had like,

he was dying of cancer or something. So if you give like an extreme spectrum, you can land it in the middle. Didn't take it to there. I think that, because me and my brother were both coming out, we told my mom like, you end up like, what? Yeah, I'm in Brothers K2.

And y'all both, you're like, well yeah, double teamed it. Yeah, I mean, you know, just rip off the bandaid. But yeah, we told them like, or we told my mom, the news isn't that we got a girl pregnant, the news is that we're gay. That we'll never get a girl pregnant.

Well, it just, it was like, it was like going in this direction and then it just zigzagged and she was like, what, what the hell? So it was at the cheesecake factory. It's you. Man, you, Chilli's in cheesecake factory.

Chilli's cheesecake factory. Chilli's in cheesecake factory. Chilli's in cheesecake factory. Chilli's in cheesecake factory. Chilli's in cheesecake factory. So if you go out to eat with Max, just like you'd be ready for a revelation. If it's a broad like chain,

yeah, then there's gonna be an important conversation. Right, local place, you're good. Yeah. Have you ever had to tell anyone a big secret at a chelice? I don't have a, I don't really have a lot of big secrets. I try to think, you're just gonna give one out right now. No, I'm trying to think. I have a weird way of dealing with conflict, I think.

Okay, how do I, have I ever met you? I don't think so. Well, I'm sure you have. We've known each other like, what, 12s, my math, 12 years? Yeah. Same with max. This one weird thing too, is like we all, like, in some way, if known each other for at least a decade.

I've been watching Lost and it's basically lost. Yeah. Well, this is actually, because I read an article about, do you know how there's always, there's like new apps that get really popular? And it's like the app of the month or whatever. There's one, it's like Sarah Ha or Sarah Ha. So where you create an account and you post the link and you say,

hey, leave constructive criticism. It's completely anonymous, right? And I did want to post on Twitter a while ago. And it's just like anyone can say anything. And they get a lot of trouble because it's completely anonymous, they end up becoming, you know, the internet being like angry people, that they end up like, you know, causing suicide and like hate

and racism and all that stuff. Because people are just like posting, you know, troll stuff, right? And I'm sure some of this legitimately like evil comments. So is that what that's been taken over by evil comments? I don't know. I think anytime you do something where it's like, leave anonymous feedback for something,

people are gonna end up killing themselves. Like, yeah. What did they say to you, Chris? I mean, it was mostly positive. I got a couple of things that were like, oh, whoever, like there's some stuff where it's like people who don't know me personally and there's some stuff where it's like,

oh, that person is me personally, because they're like, they're saying something that's like the deep the deep Chris Wait, so what was the finish of that? What are you doing you get mad? I don't know well, that's I feel like I just I'll I'll kind of I got mad at Aaron. I know recently. I can we can't talk about why in like a year Maybe I hope I really I got I got mad at Aaron recently and and We're already planning a trip to go to LA to visit our friend Adam and I just Left and didn't tell him yeah, and he was like are you an LA?

That was a little what's a powder, I don't know with that. How would you describe that? It's a passive aggressive. It was just a void. I was like, I didn't feel like, I was like, I need, when I get angry, I kind of like want time to cool off. So I was like, I'm just gonna avoid this person

till I'm not angry anymore. Yeah. And then we'll have a confrontation whenever I'm like, and I should have. So, but you went on the trip, you were already planned to go anyway, but separately Yeah, it's really funny like if you did that because I just went I just went to a last He thought we weren't going on the trip, you know, okay He thought we weren't doing the trip anymore and I just went and then he found out that we were still going on this trip

Yeah, because I was there I really want to do that to someone though too like I'd just like to be like like the Alaska thing It's like I'm like we just went with Nadi and I just like, we get in a fight and then the next day she's like, where are you? I'm already on the cruise. Sorry. You know, we got in a fight.

You left. You left. I booked a cruise the next morning. Wait, did you actually go on to a cruise without? No, no. No, she went. So we went. I'm just saying applying Chris's logic of being mad at people,

it would be nice to like pre-vacation without the person, your mad at, you want me, you come to Juneau. So, man. I mean, I'm not a particularly angry person, but whenever I do get angry, I'll be like, yeah, me too. I feel like I used to get angry here, and now I've mellowed out as I've gotten older,

especially when you all first met me, because I just come out of the army. I think I I used to get angrier. And now I've mellowed out as I've gotten older, especially when you all first met me, because I just come out of the army. I think I was a little more like, wound up. Yeah, and get, you know, like send angry emails and yell at people and stuff. And I think you still get pretty angry at people. I do, but it takes a lot to get me there.

I think I'm somewhat zen. All right. All right. I don't know. I'm trying to remember what you's in. All right. Laughing. I don't know. I'm trying to remember what you used to send angry emails about because there was a lot of like we never we did like wedding videography or like that stuff never mattered. But you did send some angry emails occasionally there. From the wedding videography?

Yeah. I have a memory from shit. Confront us about something Well, you do this is the non-anonymous version of that Saraha I see Saraha you confront us tell us Agree Vince how bad time I yell at you. I have I have some friends actually we wanted to bring up Could we join we just kind of wanted to make this safe space Could we join? We just kind of wanted to make this safe space.

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And they're like, oh, try. I'm on the down trend right now, go. So that's good. When are we going to stop this? He wants you to pick one. Pick one. You're except because Josh gained weight or lost weight. I don't know. It's just it's just always just it's it's all for a thing. What weight would you like me to be either incredibly thin or incredibly large. Incredibly thin like Christian bail. Yeah. Like in the movies that the, the, the Mac, Mac,

the machinist, machinist, Maconist, Maconist, Shema. Okay, it's done. Great. I have a complaint for both of you.

Okay. I don't feel that you've really put in enough effort to be my friend, and I'd like you to put in a little bit more time on that. Is that a genuine complaint? Yeah. I have not put enough effort to be your friend. Yeah.

In what way? And what way? You did abandon our department to be fair. That is fair. All right Patrick. No, yeah, so this, I don't know if we, for audio, this is Patrick now. It's me Patrick.

Patrick, Patrick. But what, this is my natural hair. Why, why is that a genuine complaint? Yeah. But it's a two way street. Well, yeah, but I'm kind of a friendship bottom. And I just kind of receive friendship. How do I not put in enough effort?

You never call me anymore. I never call you. I don't care. I can't even use to leave notes for me. Here's the problem? Patrick this is really hot um As a friendship bottom we need clear signs that you are presenting for the friendship you want Oh, it's just not always clear to us all right. You're you're waiting for it. I'm waiting for your friendship right

That's my presentation That's it. That's it. You got it anymore? Josh, I wanted like, actually, I have a semi-real one. Okay, okay. Actually, it's, that's pretty, that's just good. You really like the word bitch. Do I? It pops up a lot in things.

Like what, where does it pop up? In my work? In a lot of your work. Okay. And you're ingest. Do I say I don't? I've never, okay, just never stuck out to day five. Okay, ready? Season one episode one, whenever the girl, the beginning runs off with the medicine. Okay, I know this line, okay, they run out the door and they're like that bitch. And I was like, if a woman stole all of my medicine and I need that to survive, uh-huh, I would probably be like, what the fuck? Not, but that character isn't Max, Max Krimky.

That can be no, but is that character, the character Max Crimkey that can know is that character? The character is that where's that from? Where's that where's that bitch come from season from season two episode one. Whenever that boy, Alice Hayden Pantera that boy Ellis that boy else. He was a he's walking around. Uh-huh. I don't know what you're talking. He's saying there's too much, we just too much bitch and I just, we're just heppers in a lot. There's, there's no that it's, there's that much. Okay.

But I feel like there's more fucks than bitches. There's way more fucks. Fucks don't bother me. But you're saying on like a sexism level. Is that where we're going with this? Just maybe, maybe more of a, necessarily all don't know if it's necessarily all there. I think it's more just, I don't know. It's one of those things that, I don't like it.

I don't know why. I don't you like it. Because I feel like there's like, I'll give you a break bad. That's what's his name, Jesse Pinkman's name. Oh yeah, that's his like, that's his like, is that bother you in breaking bad? But like, that's like, that's his character. Okay. That's the entire, like, that's his like face. Does that bother you in breaking bad? But like, that's like, that's his character.

Okay. That's the entire, like that's his, yeah, that's his catch phrase. So if I said it more, you'd be okay with it. Is that what I'm getting? It's kind of like the way thing. It's stuck all the time. I get it. I see my problem now. Yeah, one of the other.

I think we stumbled there. I got it. So a number of weight number, a bitch number. Yeah. Any other nut you want to, you want to have? I want to just probably pick pepper and some more derogatory terms for females. Cool.

Like very yet. Yeah, just switch up a bit. OK. Was any other legitimate like confrontations to our character? Why are you guys like taller than me? That's how I thought I was going to let you know. How tall are you? Five foot, five inches tall. Five foot, five? That's how I'm taller. How tall are you?

Five foot five inches tall. Five foot five and three quarters. I'm five seven. I'm five seven. I'm barely taller than you. Well, that's a more people into caves to fight them because I can't win on open ground. It was fun because I knew a bunch of grievances with Josh

because I've known you since high school. I haven't really known, I mean, I know no one. You want to spit ball some grievance is that? I'm just look at him and see what you think would be wrong with it. He does have a really punchy face. Like, do you want to punch him? I love it there a little bit.

That's not really a grievous. I don't know, I feel like it's like, it's punching like a small animal. Yeah, it's hard to be mad at Chris. Yeah, because also, when we were talking about this before, like about, you know, it was like, oh, well, being oblivious

doesn't really encourage, like, grievance is because it's like, oh, well, he didn't have any damn clue that he did something. Well, wait, wait, then what did I do that was, I was oblivious to. You're talking to a person who has memory for shit, so. Which I completely, I know people have multiple times, I think I've offended people and been completely oblivious to it

because I'm like completely in my own like brain. It's called ignorance, Chris. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think like whenever we did like social disorder, you would be like super chill up until like a day or two before we had to do something. And then you just lose your mind. I'd be like, I need you to go buy a shirt for me.

And you're like, what? I asked me red and then I would go like try to find a red shirt for you. And I took pictures like 37 different red shirts. And you're like, it's not quite red enough. All that kind of looks like my other red shirt, you know? And it's just like go buy your own shirt. So that's, oh yeah, that's a grievance. That's a grievance.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I wanted. Yeah, that was a big one. Yeah, and see, and I think some of that has to do with like the stress of a production is like intense, especially something like social disorder where, I mean, we were prepping to go to my high school reunion and like completely embarrassed myself.

I was like, super just... So you got to make sure you look so... I'm so stressed. I was so stressed. And everything, and it's just like, whenever I get stressed, I kind of like, it just like spews from my orifices. It was the funniest thing. I think I was an intern at the time,

and we were like waiting for you to show up and Aaron walks in and he's like, where is that nervous little weasel? Every time I was a dark black thing. Because that's like, he's so chill up until like a couple days before, and in and he's like, where is that nervous little weasel? Every time he's done laughing. Because that's like, he's so chill up until like a couple of days before. And then it's just like, yeah. I can air that same grievance.

I do think sometimes you, you, it seems like you get afraid to commit to like a thing until the very last minute. So you leave like all the options open, like performance wise and things like that. And then right at the end, it's like, oh, damn it, It's making a decision like, ah one And then it's done and it's good, but it's like yeah, I know I think we would we would do that on on

Richie's greatest masterpiece. We made together. I blade We would be fighting and yelling at each other through like half that shoot. That was a tough shoot though in general, but I mean All shoots are like tough. They're all like, they're all intense. And yeah, I think I've done my two, I think day five season two and 11 will roosters with the two hardest shoots have ever done. Like those were both really hard shoots. There's a grievance that I just thought of.

You say a lot like the masterpiece that we made or like the most amazing thing ever. And I really have no idea when you're being serious or when you're joking about it. So which one is this? He doesn't either. I don't always know. I remember when we were working on 11 Little Roosters,

and it was over, and you were like, you worked on 11 Little Roosters, right? And I was like, yeah, I did some stuff. And you're like, how's it feel going from the big times back to the little times? Yeah. And I was like, what a it feel going from the big times back to the little times? Yeah. I was like, what a dick. I was like, honestly, Josh, it feels like we're going

from the mediums right back to the mediums. Well, I guess you could leave the streaming nominated series and go back to whatever you do. But I don't know, I can't wait, dammit. Wait, wait, how did you launch into that? I was like, how did you get that, how did that get nominated for a stream? I don't know. Yeah, it's damn it. Wait, wait, wait, how you launching? I was like, how did you get that, how did that get nominated for a stream? I don't know.

Just you or maybe some of the other people that helped do it. Oh, I don't know. No, probably just you. Not that. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's another one. I mean, feel free.

Feel free to accept the award alone. So, yeah. Does he thank anybody or is just like, God of amazing. Just the man upstairs. Just the one my one boss. I mean I met Halem. That's gonna be weird.

This is gonna be a weird Friday. Yeah. What do you all have any grievances with each other? Or with us? I would say sometimes Josh, when you're something you don't, you'll avoid things. When it's like, oh, we have a script or whatever and you're like, you haven't finished it, you'll just disappear.

Yeah, that's true. And I'll be like, you just not respond. Well, it's like, I don't want to come back. I don't know. It's like a weird glitch in my brain. It's like, I don't want to come back empty handed. Like, I want to come back. And then sometimes that creates a really bad cycle where it's like,

now I haven't, like say you sit in the email, like in the morning and I haven't answered and it's already afternoon, it's like, well now I haven't responded five hours, now the script's gotta be really good. And so I have to like go back and then I start, it just, you know, five days later, you're like, I thought you were dead

and I was like, no, but here's your script. Yeah. It's like when you're on Tinder and you don't respond for three months, so the response has to be like really good. Right, it's your script. It's like when you're on Tinder and you don't respond for three months, so the response has to be like really good. Right. Who you really felt off. I'm really sorry.

Yeah. I feel you. Well, thank you for those grievances. Thank you. Are we done? I think you're playing. Let's bring on my grievance with Blaine. Let me talk about my grievance with Blaine.

Speaking of Bruce your Teeth interns. Hello Blaine. I brought a list. You brought a list of grievances? I've just been writing while you guys have been talking. But the first thing that I wrote was this podcast is going as well as an episode of Big Bang Through without the Oh, so who do you who want how are we going to do this grievance? I don't know you give it. Well, hold on, hold on. Wait, actually, I have a grievance for you. Okay. When we were talking about like, hey, who could stop by this podcast.

I was talking with Cameron and he and I said, what about Blaine? And then he's like, let me check. And he said, Blaine says he'll swing by. He's at the rock gym writing. Yeah, what the fuck dude? How do you write at the fucking gym? What does that mean? There's a, what does it mean to write?

You're like climbing mountains and also like writing at your computer? What does that mean Blaine? There's a, there's a lofted area upstairs that's basically like a coffee shop lounge and they've got couches and desks and they've got like super fast Wi-Fi and people actually do their home offices

out of the collection. Patrick, can you vouch, Max? I can vouch. I'll vouch, I'll vouch. Our Wi-Fi is not in love. Well, I don't like working at the office though because I feel like I get distracted easily. So I got to jump.

So you're at the gym. Yeah, writing. But I did come here with the sweaty shirt because I worked out before I got here I was like well if I'm gonna be on the podcast might as well get pump on so Well, so before before Blaine reads his grievances I just want to make sure people have the full context of you and at least my relationship Blaine has always hated me And he told me this later He said when I used to come before I I worked at Rooster Teeth

Which was in the fall of 2014, so when I came on for Gotlett, before that I would come on for gigs. I was an assistant camera on the, what it was the car short. The short work, the Chris is in a car. It's the space, what it was called. I was on that and then Blaine told me later

that because you were an intern at the time and you were basically like mean mugging everyone who you thought might take your slot of a permanent job. Very competitive, yeah. And so I just wanted you to know that before he reads these grievances, that there's a long-standing.

So he just hated everyone who would come into the office? I typically, yes, I hated Aaron. I really hated Aaron, and it mostly interns really have to win me over. So yeah, I don't give people the benefit of the doubt they have to like earn my trust. And so far everybody here has earned my trust. So we're all good now.

We worked on an Emmy, or it's an Emmy. It's an Emmy, an Emmy, an Emmy. Streaming nominated series together. Yeah. All right, and what are your grievances? What do you have? I mean, who do you, I got like six or seven. All right, yeah, go for them.

Okay. Chris, why do you act like a teenager virgin to get women's attention? The whole like innocence act isn't helping your 30, you look like your 30 and it scares them away. This became a roast. I was spot on. Yeah, you, you, you, that's a fair one. You're greets you, some greets you. Why do I act like an innocent?

Like a kind of like a version like, oh, what's a, what's a breast? What's a breast? What are you on in state with them? Are you like in the backseat of the car watching this? No, I've been like, you guys don't invite me out to drink, but the few times that you do, I'm there and I'm like in the corner to like watching Chris talk to women and just like

tumble over himself and just like, I don't. Is he a virgin? I don't, so I don't, I'm gonna get a lot of heat in the concert of this one. No, no, no, no, no, no, I mean, I don't have, I don't have them. I do okay. I'm, God damn it. I can't talk to you. This is he's like when he's talking to a girl in the bar. No. I didn't, I didn't, I don't know. If, oh, I just feel like, yeah, it's like, I don't like talking about certain types of date

or just dating in general. Sure. But I, I don't know, I don't do, I don't do bad. What do you think women, when you're talking to one, what do you think she likes about you? What's like your, what's your, what's your hook? What's my pitch? Yeah, if you're talking to one? What do you think she likes about you? What's like your what's your what's your hook? What's my pitch? Yeah, if you're gonna pitch yourself. What are your main qualities that women like and you and if you're out there You can tweet. What do you think Chris's qualities are?

Admit say Chris Amaris dot Sarah Haara. No, uh, I Don't know. I mean, I think it's like That's like that's like It's just I Think I'm I'm disarming I guess it would be cool. Right. I'm like a with the teenager a false sort of way No, no, I feel like a lot of God damn it

Me did my next grievance Let me wait. I, uh, my grievance is you were valedictorian in high school. So why do you act like a dumb fuck all the time? You wanted me to be open and honest about the girls. All right. We're the record. I was not valedictorian.

So we don't have a. It's about girls. All right, we're the record. I was not validatory. So we're in a salutatory part. Second. And, you know, I don't act like a dumb fuck. I'm not an, no, I mean, I just feel like, okay, okay. I think I can come off that way, certainly. And, but it's like, it's all rooted to like a, there's always a thought process through my brain. That's like coming, you know, like,

it's all based in like some level of like, logical thinking, everything that I say. It's just sometimes it's hard to explain it in a way that makes sense. Okay. All right, what do you got for me? What the hell is this going? Josh, you need to stop being such a rude little man.

People like the happy dwarf and not the grumpy one. So you should just. No, but it's like, but isn't Gimli's the grumpy one? Well, no, I'm thinking of dwarves from like snow white and snow white and snow. Oh, like dwarves. It was a dwarf joke to make fun of your height. That one didn't land as well.

Yeah, that was, yeah. You're, you're, you're, you're, yeah, I got shots. It worked out before I take it to open my neck. Yeah. Your criticisms were harder because like, I don't actually hate you, but I've had a lot more negative experiences with you than the first. Right.

Woo. So it's like, I don't really know like where the joke is and where the actual hate is. Oh, my God. Oh man, you just know that being around me lowers your quality of life. Is that? I consider you a very dear friend of mine, but we've definitely not had great streaks at points.

I don't think you and I have ever been in a tiff. I don't think we've ever actually thought about something. That's true. I guess I was remembering like, so going into a level of Rooster's those my first experience like co-directing. So that was like a new experience co-directing with Josh. Which is very hard though, as we met, I bled.

Like we fought the whole time. It's just like a process. Well, let's see, and I've never co-directed with him. It's just like a yeah, it's just a process. Well, I see and that's and I've never co-director So I'm normally like Mastering commander so like to to to have to split the the responsibilities is weird. Yeah The Jud the diabetes jokes are getting old. Yeah Josh yeah Biting's making my body feel old too. Um, I't know, man. I don't want to say anything else

because I feel like they're too personal. Yeah, a little bit. Can I read them? Can I read one? I mean, I only have one other one left. I'll just read it and I'll tell you if it's different. Oh wait, can I, can I, can I, can I, can I, It's just like, it just makes me look petty.

Is it cringy? It's basically like, you kind of do this, like, you kind of do this like body shaming thing, but it's like, were you like, you kinda do this like, kinda do this like body shaming thing, but it's like, were you like, you get mad at me, but it's like, you're just like kinda disgruntled about it and it's like, it's really weird, so. I shan't, to be clear, I shan't you about your body. Yeah, yeah, can we, oh, I wanna read something really fast.

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Thank you for sponsoring the podcast. How can I possibly body fam you look at me? Well, I know, but it's like a reverse body shame. Uh-huh. Towards like making fun of you being fit. Yeah, it's like what it. You know, example, please. Uh, I can't think of one. It's always just been like so little jabs like he does a little,

little short, little Josh jabs that you give every now and then That's just like they don't really like they're not like specific moments that come to mind. It's just like oh just a general negativity around me. Yeah, I guess I mean That's just kind of you in general Person I will say That I I was actually extremely impressed with your gym dedication during 11 Little Roosters. Like you were we would wrap it like six or seven every night and you were straight to the gym. Like I'm you know look at me

that's not what I did. Do you guys have any criticisms from me because I would like to finish out before I leave? Or I don't know if you won't be around, but I want to say good things about you guys too, so that you guys don't have bad taste in your mouth. You know? It's been a rough ride, so we should, but Christmas is a blame. The funniest thing about blame, I don't know if it's as true anymore, but you used to be so on edge about getting fired all the time. Like every week you thought you were about to be fired.

That still exists. That still does it. That's still does it. Yeah. Which was really fun. Yeah, super fun to mess with you. Yeah. It's not from my perspective. I messaged Blaine on Tuesday and you immediately were like, am I going to get fired? I'm like, no, I wanted to brainstorm on this thing.

You said something along the lines of, hey, let's go get a drink tonight and I was like, Chris never asked me for rings. Why's he wanting to get a drink with me today? I'm toxic, Chris, in a while. I think he might be upset with my level of performance. Oh, I think I'm gonna get fired. That was like the whole thing.

And all it was was, oh, we have this thing. Let's brainstorm for it. Oh, it's kind of late. Let's do it over a beer. That was it. Yeah. We can't do this with good stuff. Yeah, so.

Okay. But you immediately went to, I'm going to get fired. Right. Which I don't think you've ever, ever been in danger of being fired. It's ever that couple times, except for the couple times. Well, I did, like, I remember, I, as part time or intern, but I did fart on Gus's head and I was like, that's fucking it. There's lots of this, yeah, there was, wait.

What? This is back when the note was getting started. I, this podcast, there's stories I've been told on the podcast a bunch of times. Basically, like short, short of it is, we were all sitting down, I was laying, I was sitting on a chair and Gus was on a bean bag, there was like right here and his head was like right here

and we were like all sitting around a brain storming and trying to come up with the name for the, the no. And I was like, hey, what about this one? And I farted and then Gus was just like, and got up and he just walked off on silence. And I was like, I'm fucking dead. What you did in general.

You're there, so why would you get? A general rule of thumb is don't fart on people's faces. Especially people who are your boss. Yeah. Okay. I mean, that's just a general guideline for the world. Don't fart on your bosses. Okay.

Ever. You got any other criticisms? I wasn't ready for your criticisms. Sorry, I mean, you know. I criticize you. When do I criticize you? Am I, oh, I mean, this isn't like funny, ha ha, but like, you know, we all criticize each other's writing

and stuff like that, but that's like, it's part of the game. That's just yours. See, like, Chris and I are good to go. That's the way I feel sometimes though. Like, Chris has a mega impact on my writing abilities. Toral will be like, okay, I got it. Chris, how about this?

And you'll be like, socks and we're like, I don't have a sh**. It's been a go and rethink my life at the bouldering gym. No, go right and clap super fast. How can I climb high enough to die? No, because it's got the padding left for. Okay. Beautiful.

No, no, go ahead, go ahead. I was gonna say nice things. All right, what are you saying? What are you saying? Chris, you have, both of you have done a good job of like taking me under your wing, you know? Like I feel like I've learned a lot about you guys and being somebody that came into Rupert's teeth,

fresh out of college and not having a ton of real world experience, aside from like, and not having a ton of real-world experience, aside from a couple of spare internships that were before our tea, I feel like you guys have taught me a lot about the industry, so I appreciate that. Chris is a good friend, I don't think I've ever actually been super pissed off at you. It's never like a couple times where I get drunk and break things. Yeah, you are. Oh, that's another grievance. No, our time back agrees. You're a violent drunk, and I don't like it. I'm not even a like it. I like it. I like it. I like it.

I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it.

I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it.

I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like like, all right, Chris, come down. And then there was no temporary ripped off one of my $70 shirts and I made him pay for it. No, no, I offered.

I was like, I felt bad. No, you didn't offer. No, you just straight up ripped the buttons off. Oh, no, no, but then I was afterwards the next day. Yeah, I was like, hey, you ripped my shirt off. And I was like, let me give you money for it. Okay. Sure. Uh, I did that the next day, I was like, hey, you wrote my shirt off. And I was like, let me give you money for it. Okay. Sure.

I did that the other day. I was like, I'll just be shirt off. No, but I was out drinking and I was like throwing, we were like seeing who could throw mints into each other's mouth, you know, like that thing. And then at some point, we're like, well, we should throw it into each other's beers. And then someone was covering up their beer.

I was super proud of this. They're covering up their beer. I was super proud of this. They're covering up their beer with their hand and I threw a mint in between the crevice of their fingers into their beer. Nice. And then they were like, well, now there's a mint in my beer. I'm like, all right, I'll buy you a drink. But that was like super proud of that.

That was an impressive mint bro. I usually cover my drinks, but it's only around Aaron. He tries to get things in too. I'll say a nice thing about you. Oh, okay. I like your funny little YouTube, like the little Twitter videos you make. Like there was one you made once where you were running around in like a park and there was another you and like a tree house.

Yeah. That was funny. Those are good. Yeah. I like doing those. Those are fun. This took on a much more like classic roast format. I did. I like the roast blade.

The roast blade came in. It's like I like that. The night to spring. Blame harsh. Blame was harsh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Those are, see that was like legitimate. No, no, that bullshit. Oh, yeah. I'm not, you're not, you don't put enough, the shirt thing was good. The shirt, that was good. Like, yeah, you don't,'re not you don't put enough and the shirt thing was good the shirt that was good like yeah You don't you made me buy a red shirt once That was good

Look at the way that you just played that grievous how do you like yeah, I made you do that Who cares what a petty asshole? Just kidding yeah But yeah, you guys are good friends. Appreciate you. I can go fuck. Yeah, but yeah, he gives a good friends. Appreciate you. I can go fuck off now, right? He stays fine. I don't know.

You go back and write at the rock gym if you want to. Whatever you want. Okay. It's actually dangling from like a repelling thing with like a little no-pan. I had a thing recently where I woke up and I was crying. Oh. I had a dream.

I took something like that last night, bro. I had a dream that like a family member had died in my dream. And I woke up and I was crying. And I was like, why am I crying? And then I remember my dream. And then I realized, I don't remember the last time I cried before that. I don't, what's the last time you cried, Josh?

It's really stupid, but the, it was, soon after I got my dog, because it was so hard, it's weird, but it's like, you don't have a dog, you don't have kids or whatever, it's basically like having like half of a kid. It's like a lot of work, it changes your schedule and like stress, it's stressed me out like for two weeks.

And I thought I was gonna have to give him back. I was like, I don't know if I can do this. And I remember I was, it's like a movie scene. I was like crying in the shower because it was like, it was such a weird lifestyle change. And I felt really horrible because I thought am I gonna have to give this dog back to the shelter because I just, I don't know if I can handle.

At least what is it? Yeah, it was Eastwood. Oh really? A wild dog. How long ago was that? I was it was Eastwood. Oh really? A long dog. How long ago was that? I was like a year too. I guess like two years ago. Had a month.

Yeah, a cry in a year too? Yeah. I mean, I think of the last time I cried. I don't, I can't remember the last time I cried before that dream, which is a fake thing that didn't happen. Yeah. God, I mean, I even had like my dog died recently, my childhood dog, but it was like mostly my mom's, I was kinda like trying to be support.

I didn't cry during that, and I felt like a bastard for it. Did you pretend to cry at any point? I mean, it was like, you know, it was upsetting as a fucking downer, but I don't think I'd shut it here. I don't know, maybe like a harsh ass breakup fight from like years ago. Yeah, I feel like that's probably it,

like a breakup from like a long time ago. Yeah. I like cried, like, I don't know, probably it like a breakup from like a long time ago. Yeah. I like cried like I don't know last week whenever I watched some dumb movie or something. I mean, I mean, any really anything I've teared up for movies. Yeah. I don't. Every once in a while I'll like half tear up for a movie, but it's not a it's not a constant thing even if I'm like sad. It doesn't actually like physically got me and I'm trying to remember right now what it was, but like it got me and it was like one of those things where it was like like actually not just like the,

you know, like the thing like more like, I can't remember what it was. I tiered up a bit during a Liana Mormon's speech in Game of Thrones, where she got up and choose like, he's my king and stuff like that. I was like, a little girl. Good actress, yeah. I was like a powerful fucking moment.

I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think anything I've seen has ever made me get like that emotional. I lied to my girlfriend in eighth grade and told her I cried at Titanic, but I didn't. Do you just try to get points or something? Do you really? Yeah. The guy cried at the dead baby.

I didn't. There's a dead baby? Is the dead baby? There's a floating woman in the ocean at the end and she has like a baby and they're both like iced. Oh, that's fine. And that's what you, you didn't go for like Leo dying or any of that. It's all like, I think you have to, like when you lie about that, you have to really pick

a specific. So it's like it's such a specific thing. It must be true. Yeah. So dead baby. It's cool. Yeah. So I didn't cry last night, but I did wake up

in a very similar circumstance. I was given it to shoot my pants. In my shirt. I was convinced, I was in my dream, I shoot my pants, and I woke up and I was like, I shoot my pants. And I waddled over to my bathroom and sat down and wiped my ass and it was the ghost herd. Didn't shoot my pants.

But I thought I was convinced to my sleep, I should have my pants. I've done that so many times. You should your pants, you sleep. No, no, where I wake up from sleeping in a place I shouldn't be sleeping or a place that I don't normally sleep like an airplane or something. And I'm always like, I should have my pants.

I'm not airplane, it's a bit cold. And I think it's like one of those things where it's like your body always like, I shit my pants. I'm not on airplanes. I'm like, oh, I think it's like one of those things where it's like your body's like, what are you doing right now? Why are you sleeping right now? And it's like, I'm gonna make him take a shit. And that'll wake him up. Have you ever shit your pants while you're asleep?

No, no, no. No, what does that come from? I'm waking up on airplanes. I've never had that dream. So I don't, yeah. I never wake up and I think I shit my pants out. Maybe it's like, maybe it's like, I'm just like, I'm working up on airplanes. I've never had that dream, so I don't. Yeah, I never like wake up and I think I shit my pants. Maybe it's like, maybe it's like, I'm just saying, dude.

Maybe it's one of those things where you fart in your sleep, and when you're in your bed and you're comfortable and you know it's a safe place, you just fart and you don't wake up. But if you're on an airplane and you're sleeping and then you feel a fart, you're like, oh, shit my pants. Yeah, maybe that's what it is.

One time I woke up and the AC thing was like blowing right in my crotch and my crotch was really cold and I was like, I shit my pants. Yeah, maybe that's what it is. One time I woke up and the AC thing was like blowing right in my crotch and my crotch was really cold and I was like, I pissed my pants. Like I woke up and was like, okay, okay. It was, I don't have this at all. I don't know what this is. I'm with you there.

I don't know, I'm never, well, you know, I don't know. I mean, I'm not a shit new. It could have just been like a clear, like, a clear shit What's going on up there like are you shitty clear fluids? I don't know that's not all right. You didn't go to a doctor. You never know. That's problematic Oh god I mean, I yeah, I don't know. I mean, okay, wait, wait, when's the last time you shit your pants?

Ooh, last time I showed my pants. Yesterday. What was the last time you showed your pants? It was somewhat recently. Yeah. Hahaha. Hahaha. It's when we were filming an Alpine.

Wow. Wow, that was like a couple of months ago, right? We were like, well, when we were eating, if you've been to Alpine and like Marfa, like there's only like five places to eat, right? And so within, and we were there for three straight weeks. So it was like by day two, you've rotated all the restaurants almost.

And so, I don't know, just that food did not settle well, and it hit me right as I was halfway, and the set was like 20 minutes outside town or something. It hit me like, I need to go right between set and the hotel, I was headed back to the hotel, and there was just no way I was gonna, I almost made, I got to the hotel, so you do parking lot, and you just shit.

Not like, I mean, you know, reasonably controlled, but it was not good. It was not a good, at least you went to the hotel. I got to the parking lot, yeah. Cause then you had clothes. Yeah, last time you shit yourself. Man, I don't know. I think it was like maybe you're on college.

Oh, that one. What? Bravo, Blaine. Oh, that one. What? Bravo, Blaine. Well, that was a while ago. Well, no, I'm out of hats. I'm like really wet farts that love threads to do. But like, I remember though, none of those come to mind. So I'll just go with the story that I can remember the best.

Because I'm sure I think I've shit my pants like probably in the last like 18 months I've shit my pants. Really? But like a wet far, like 18 months, I've shit my pants. Really? But like a wet, like a diorama kind of shit. But like I remember though, so back in college. With it, okay, okay. Well back in college, this is the one that I remember. I was at my hometown and I was driving somewhere

with my mom and my sister and I've always just kind of like decided to take the back seat because you know, my sister, she's older, so I'll just let her sit in the front. My mom was driving and I was back there and I think that's what made it worse so I was a passenger in the back seat and I just remember like,

and I just been like, oh God, it been like, I think I had to tell my mom if we could hurry up with whatever air and rear running. I was, yeah, I was really embarrassed about it. Did she know that you would shoot your pants? No, I don't think I told them,

I shoot my pants at the Rugrats movie. How long ago was that? I mean, that was like whenever the Rugrats movie came out. So that was like 90s then. Yeah. So that was back when Josh was in his fifth year of high school. Yeah. We were kids.

Yes. And, yeah. Yeah, then we went somewhere afterwards and I, again, I don't know, is it like, do you normally not tell people that you, like, whenever you're younger and you shit your pants? How old? I think, I don't know.

I was watching the Rugrats movies. Okay, let's look up to the World of Rats movies. Let's see what you're this is. Can we get some facts on this? No, but do you ever, do you tell people that you shut your pants? No, not at my age. Unless you have a significant other.

But maybe on a podcast. Yeah. Would you tell Nadia? World Rats movie, there was two, oh, like it's three, 1998. World Rats in Paris, 2000. World Rats go wild. It was a good wild.

So go wild, it was 2003, I was 13. So you were like, 16? 16? No, because it's not. He was like, you were like, no, it must have been the original movie. You're all the same age. I'm 28.

How old are you? 27. Older than Blaine. Yeah. Wow. That he's older than me? Yeah, that surprised me. Yeah, everybody's older than me. This company. Wow. What, that he's older than me? Yeah, that surprised me. Yeah, everybody's older than me.

This company. It always be that 16 year old Max in the hotel room to me. So, snapshot. We made the most amazing movie, and I wish I could find it online. Is it just terror? I think I guarantee it's, I know we're to find it. Oh my God, please send it to me.

I should show it though, it's so garbage. At a panel that I wanted, well, never mind, I can't talk about that. No, no. I have another criticism. Please. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry.

Since I was the intern, but you guys all knew each other in college, I've always felt like you guys had this like, our college buddies mentality. And then like, I'd be like, hey guys, what's up? You'd be like, fuck you, little brother. Kinda. Yeah. That's always club, boys, boys, club.

Yeah, but that's a projection of your insecurities. Yeah, you're a lot better than I. Yeah, man, I get fucking roast in the comments because people are like, why is Blinto fucking insecure all the time? He pisses me off, he's so, oh, he has feelings, so insecure and just like, fuck you. Well, good, the funny thing about you bling is you project this alpha mentality

right But you're the most Situational Sometimes I am in my zone, but yes, most times. That's true, I agree with that. That is true. They're a moment. They're a pop-up.

They're a time for your super insecure, and they're a time for your very much like confident. But even then, you just nip him on the neck and he yelps and he's back. Yeah. I think it's, I think, well that's the interesting about working at Rooster Teeth, is that this is a company that's basically just like,

it's a bunch of nerds, it's geeks and stuff like that. And like, I find myself fitting under that, you know, description, like I'm a geek and stuff like that. But because I'm a shape, people assume that, no, no, he's just, he's like super confident and all this stuff. But like, and people shit on me and punch me and stuff like that because it's like, ah, it's Blaine, he can take it.

But really, I'm like, just as insecure as anybody else. So I'm like, oh, if Rupert Heath is the high school, then you're the jock that like, secretly is doing painting lessons. Yeah, I like to do that. You're the greatest in the world. You're the greatest in the world. You're the greatest in the world.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, I don't know, I'm like, what would you be, Josh, if this was high school? I feel like he's a senior major. I was pretty cool in high school. No, I'm not saying who were you in high school

because I can guarantee you I would knew you somewhat close to that and you were just as insufferable. So you're right. So would you be... I had a door of the paper. Give me like a... I wanna see.

I think it would be more like a theater tech. Like... No. Cooler than now. I think it would be more like a theater tech, like, no, I was in one play in high school. That was it. That was the closest acting experience I had. I feel like Josh would be like the Artur who was like, oh no, I'm gonna make it to college and make it big. I'm leaving the stupid town and all you stupid people.

While Chris was like, Chris is probably like the geeky kind of like. Now Chris is definitely the mean girl. You know, it's like the retainer George. Well, let me tell you how cool I was in high school. Because this was gonna be my vehicle to get out. But I was in my senior year in high school. I was in an independent study math class

so you could study whatever you wanted. And for the final project, I did a parody of the matrix called the Mathrix. One of the first films I did, and it was people fighting to math problems, but I shot it really cool. That's cool. Yeah. I actually liked the AV Club.

Yeah, AV Club. I did a lot of AV Club. I was in AV Club. That's where I got my shirt. I had a lot of videos. So I had a public access TV show in high school and like, do that stuff with my friends. I was just like, that public access show is really cool.

Yeah. By the way, you ever get a chance to see Chris's adventures of PJ in space or whatever it's called, it's quite good. Is it what it was? It just like, I've seen some of it. You might, I don't know, it's just me and my friends. I just wanted to make movies. I mean, I think that's, since I was like 13,

I just want to make movies and make stuff. What's your earliest, like, thing that you made, like a film thing? Or that was actually a movie? Mm-hmm. Or no, no, like a video. Yeah, like a film thing? Or that was actually a movie? Or no, no, like a video. Yeah, well I mean, I didn't write it. I did run around, yeah, there's a movie called The Hit. It was about a hit man in a high school.

Oh God, of course no. Is this Columbine? Is this Cray Columbine? Cray Columbine or post Columbine? No, well it was set in a high school because we had to film it in a class. Okay. Is this a hitman? Is this Cray Columbine? Cray Columbine or post-Columbine? No. Well, it was set in a high school because we had to film it in a class. Okay.

And it was just about a hitman. And it was just like trying to do like an action movie. I have it. I have, I want to do a panel at some point, like an RTX or something where we like show like really bad early things that we made. We kind of did that last year and a half. RTX 2016 and 2016.

That would be so much fun. I actually, I have some legitimately good, like same kind of shit that I did on Instagram and Twitter all the time now. I have some really good stuff. I have some awful garbage. Yeah, everyone makes bad stuff. Man, Aaron has that one that he acted in.

I don't think he directed it or whatever. But we showed that at that RTA. He thought I was gonna show something else and I dug that out, that gym. That's it, so far. Everyone makes that out. I think it's anyone who wants to do entertainment or any sort of art.

It basically anything in life. You're gonna make a lot of shitty stuff. Yeah. Josh, did you do a sin of green? You have to get that stuff out. I did. Didn't you do one? I did it.

Yeah, we were in a film club in college and we did started a film club that lasted exactly one year Yes, but it was the concept was cool. I get what was years again Mine was the it was the detective one but the girl who'd been murdered we formed this club at UT where the goal was to make a feature film in a year and You do it is, it was like, it was vignettes. So it was like, instead of doing one feature film and devoting all these resources to 90 minutes, it was like, we'll make three 30 minute films and we'll split up the club into these three groups and everyone will get a chance to try their hand at different jobs and whatever else. At the end of it, we'll find a framing device.

I mean, while we're writing it and put it together. And we'll take a grind house type thing. Kind of, yeah, but it was a little more, it was all took place over the same timeline. It wasn't quite as integrated as we'd hoped in the end, but we did it, we finished that. Yeah, we just finished it. I would be interested to watch that again to see it.

I would not be interested to watch that. I think it would be terrible. I'm sure it's what I think. Why don't you join Chris in college? And why don't you join? I was busy making good stuff. Oh, I can smell myself by the way, so I'm sorry, you can't really smell anything.

Because I can, if I can smell myself. What was that story? I don't know if you told her before, but it was like, you were in some like creative class in college, it was like for the elite creative kids. And you like brought, it was like, no, no, no, it was like you and Aaron were in there or something. And you guys brought like a student film or something, but then there was this kid

who came in and he like made like a, I might have coconut mintos type thing. Oh, I might, we might have told the store. It was some like super like artsy, artsy kind of class where it's like you could do whatever. You just got to do a class and, and, but it's like a project you've been working on. It's like a third of your grade. Yeah. But there's no rules other than it has to be uncanny. And this guy brought in a Mentos and Coat thing. Was it like a fish bowl?

It was like a fish bowl. But he's like Mentos and Coat. Everyone loves Mentos and Co coke and how it explodes now we're gonna do something incredibly different Coke and pop rocks and Then he pulled the lever and I put the pop rocks fell into some coke and he goes And that was it and then the teacher tore into him for like 20 minutes and then and then the TA tore into him for like 20 minutes. And then the TA tore into him and then the other TA tore it. It was like an hour like,

and this guy was with his girlfriend. His girlfriend was his assistant who'd like pulled the left. It was just like brutal. Was it meant, I mean, was he doing it to be funny? No, he was like, this is my uncanny project. It was Coke and pop, it was just he thrown some shit together. It was RTF or something, it was some like, I don't know, RTF.

Was that that act lab? Yeah, that club. Oh yeah, that club. Yeah, they always had like these weird credits that you had to get where it's like, why am I in this fucking bullshit class? So you and T, yeah. I got the T team.

Yeah, yeah. We're all film students. I have a question for you actually playing. So because we were talking about like being, making fun of you for being a beta male or alpha male or whatever. Are you confident with women? Well, obviously you have a girlfriend now.

But like going out, at what point did you become, or are you confident, and if so, what point did you become confident? Dude, it totally fluctuates. Like, there's sometimes where like, back when I was on Tinder, we were just like killing it. I had knew all the right things to say. I was just getting dates like crazy

and they were going successfully to keep it vague. But then there was other times where I just have these like, sprouts where I was just like, I couldn't talk to women in bars. Things were very uncomfortable. I was like, I don't know what it was, but it just totally ranged. I think I hopped the line between being very social and very anti-social. So I don't know what it was, but it just totally ranged. I think I hopped a line between being very social

and very anti-social, so I don't know. But once I get past a certain point of chemistry and I know somebody and I'm able to establish that connection, then I'm fine. I can talk with anybody, you know? Yeah. I feel like, because I was doing the tender stuff when I was 20, like late 20.

You've been engaged several times. Yeah. It's up to you. Yeah, I think so. I've been engaged twice, but we're not going to talk about that. That's good. You're going to talk about my failures. But when I was single, I was kind of bumpy at first, not knowing how to talk to people.

But then you start to learn the people you have chemistry with and the ones you don't. And then it becomes easy. Like, oh, that's, that's was kind of my experience with it. It was like, oh, like, you went on, like, you were in long-term relationship, long-term relationship. And then there was a period where you were just single for a while and you were just like, you went a little like as a fiend, Yeah, a little a little Crazy, right? I mean I remember the It's there's a whole RTA about yeah, yeah Because there's whenever we are like working on like the gauntlet and stuff and you would come in and tell some story Like every I feel like every week you'd have a new story. Yeah about you know a

date, some horrific or great date depending upon... I feel like I got to a point, I don't know if you've ever gotten to this point, but there were points where I was going on, like, four or five dates a week. I don't know, do you have, you've gotten to that? I typically didn't do more than one a night, but there would be days where I'd have a date on like a Tuesday, and a Wednesday, and a Thursday on a Tuesday, Anna Wednesday, Anna Thursday, Anna Friday, and it's that a day. With different people?

Different people each time. I did that same thing. Have you ever seen that episode of, did you watch a Master of None? They did an episode on dating. Yeah. And it was like, they just fucking nailed it. Yeah.

It was like, it was going through the same routine, same fucking conversation. And it's like making it farther than others. It's like, eventually by the end of the night, he's down to like two or three, and then he just sleeps with one. Yeah, that's a good idea.

That's identical to how the dating scene is. Yeah. Yeah. Because then it's definitely a thing too, I feel like, because if you go on enough first date, then you end up with a routine of here's this conversation and you get boring. Well, it sucks too, because I remember, like, I was, before I started dating Alana, I just ran into this period where I was able to get dates pretty easily, that was fine.

And we'd go on them, and, you know, I'd have like three or four different places that I would take them. They're all like coffee shop type environments, like, you know, ones that you could stick around for an hour or two, or there's ones where you could just, you can pull the escape rope and get out. But it always, I narrowed down the same few questions an hour or two, or there's ones where you can pull the escape rope and get out.

But I narrowed down the same few questions to kind of like, and it sounds awful, but there's basically a weeding of a person out, based on their personality, and just knowing if that thing would go or not, and if it was the first date, or if it would continue to a second date, I hated dating. It's the worst. I remember, I used the gauntlet a couple times to get out of dates. Like I'd pretend like, oh, it was my boss calling me.

There was a girl who, on the first day, it was telling me how she liked to have sex to the Empire Strikes Back. And I was like, that's a great, like, bullet point. That was, were you dating Blaine? It was Blaine. It was Blaine. This white art dating's been so hard.

No, but wait, that's what, yeah, it was some story she told on the first day of us. She had sex to Impar Strikes Back or something. It was like the greatest. And I was like, okay, but that was like the only good thing. The rest of it was not good, but that was like the one, you know. So when she's like walking down the street, here's a star, where it seems long, she like, oh, only if it's, I guess it have to be like, like one of the newer songs that comes in an empire

that's not in, Imperial New Hope. And Astro, I feel. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no scary. That's like the one song, your play Star Wars shadows the Empire on 64, because it was like a cartridge format. It was limited. There were only like three songs. It was literally like that song, the asteroid song, and like something else. And it was just every level had to do that. It's like a minute of the song and then it was a loop.

Yeah. It was very exciting. That was a great fucking game now. Yeah. Do you, but do you feel like that that period was formative? Yes. Like you're just like, I'm seeing a lot of dating and a bunch of people and going on all these like, yeah. No, it was, I mean, like that's that's that's that was how I better figured out. I think the type of person I wanted to be with. And then also like what, like, because before that I had been with, I was with one, I was,

I did a high school sweetheart for a couple of years out of high school through the army. And I did another girl at a college for like six years. So yeah, I was constant relationships. So it's like, you can tell you like really get out there, like you don't really know what great sex is. You don't know what, like, I mean, you know, had some good, good, like connections with the people I was in relationships with, but like, yeah, I don't know what, I mean, you know, had some good connections with the people

and I was in relationships with, but like, you don't know, you just like to see the variety of people is I think more eye-opening. You and I have like really similar dating stories, I feel like we talked about this kind of earlier. But Chris, you don't really talk about your dating stories. Yeah, you're, I think I have a close look on it.

Last time I was a podcast that told the date. I told dating stories, but it's, well, you have I Last time I was a podcast that told me I told dating stories but You have opened up a bit and I have actually noticed that you do a little bit of showboden You're like yeah, I want to date last time like oh really? Yeah, yeah, she cute. Oh, he got her face in the screen pull Okay, all right cool Chris. I used to not tell anything you were so private and I was like I'm not ever gonna break this Chris guy down. Like he's never gonna open up to me. I would never talk about anything personal. Yeah, ever.

You and I did though, because we would always be in projects together. We'd always be writing laser team or whatever else. And so I would hear it, and that's why I know our stories are weirdly similar. Because yeah, we both have sex with each other. That's why. Yeah, that's the twist.

Well, because we both have stories with doing stuff with virgins. Oh, God. Oh, man, I've had some fucked up things with that. Yeah, I accidentally took someone's virginity once. Did they tell you after? You're straight. Just started from the beginning.

I didn't trip and fall into it or something. I did not intended to take her virginity. And but I was in my high school reunion. It was like, I did not intended to take her virginity. But I was in my, it was girl I met in my high school reunion and started hanging out. And then I just, she just gave off that vibe. Like we would, she kissed like a guppy. Like she was just like, yeah, like, oh man.

I wrote that out. Like very low. Like you have to, like, you're on the defensive. Like, I don't know what this is. And then we start fooling around and oh God, yeah. It was just like, they were all the signs were there. Like she, we got naked and she started trying to do a hand job and it was like, I'd like grab her arm and stop her

because it was just like, ah, like it was like, I probably could have filed assault charges. was just like, ah, like it was, like, I could have filed assault charges if I made it. Wait, was there like, loop? For kids? No, loop. And then like, imagine your surface. Yeah, and it was like, vice grip on the balls.

It was like, oh, you can't do that. Jesus, like, it was like, yeah, it was like knee jerk, like survival instinct. Like, oh. You really, that is a thing you can't, if someone's like attacking your balls, you, yeah. Just, that's my livelihood, that's my children. So, anyways, so there were all these signs

and I was like, this girl, there's no way this girl is experienced. Yeah, there's just no way. And so I was like, I don't want, I don't wanna have sex with her because I don't wanna be that person. Like, I didn I was like, I don't want, I don't want to have sex there because I don't want to be that person. Like, I didn't feel like, I didn't know her that well and I didn't feel worthy, I guess.

Like, you know, she should save that for someone especially. I don't even should blow that on me. You didn't see her see a future with her potentially. Yeah, yeah, I don't know that she necessarily did either. But then so we'd been hanging out a couple times. And then one night we were just laying around and she was like, do you have any condoms? And I was like, yeah.

And then I'd waited a bit. I was like, do you wanna have sex? She was like, uh-huh. And I was like, okay. And in that one instant, I thought, maybe not. Maybe she's just not good at this. But she, is this when you're 28? Like you said 10 year reunion, right? Cause the way that she's talking, like, I don't know. She's the not good at this. Is this when you're 28? Like you said, 10-year reunion, right?

Because the way that she's talking, like, I don't know, something. She's the same age, just she was awesome. I know, but it just like, it sounds like she just fresh out of high school. Yeah, it's weird. And then, yeah, so I was like, okay, I guess we'll do this because maybe I'm wrong.

And then it's five seconds and I was like, nope, I was right. This is, it was like a bad Jenga game. It was just like, it was like, she didn't know where to go. And it was a room. Yeah, and it's weird to me thinking on that because the, like, there's, I don't know if it's as prevalent today, but it feels like there used to be this big thing about,

you know, like, especially in high school, like everyone wants a virgin and they like want like all those things and it's like, I don't know, when you get older, like, no. Like, which is great, if you're a virgin and you're, like, especially in high school, like everyone wants a virgin and they want all those things. And it's like, I don't know, when you get older, like, no, like, which is great, if you're a virgin and you're saving it, that's great, that's awesome. But it's like, if you're going out to have fun, it's hard because you have to,

like, you don't really want to necessarily teach another person everything, like you're hoping that, how weird is it? You'll set into the game with them. How weird is it now that not even works here? But they love a lot of fast because they're level one so then we just get this good. How weird is it now that not even works here

after that experience? After her bad hand, huh? Yeah, after you met her at your high school, yeah. Yeah. Oh wow, that really one didn't land at all. No, I thought it was covered. It landed whenever we had a private one. You should have pulled from Blaine's jokes.

I mean, he's got it. I had a girl I went on some dates with and I got a hand job from. And she's snake charmed you. What is that? Oh, I told her it's all the time. There was a girl in high school that got her reputation as the snake charmer because she didn't know how to give a hand job.

She'd go up to a guy, it's her going this to his feet. That's this for people at home. It's a back and forth with a hand teacher. But I mean, that probably feels nice. I can't, you know, that wouldn't get you to know. I mean, not the whole time. It's like you're being attacked by an octopus Like a squid is just fucking your soul out of your

Reesa your soul is just in the form of Come to me No, but it was so we were I Gunna on a couple days this girl and at some point she told me she was a virgin or whatever and I was like, okay cool a couple days this girl and at some point she told me she was a virgin or whatever and I was like, okay, cool. Hang on, we're in a car, I think because, I don't know why we're in a car, I don't remember, but we didn't go to like something. I think to be your MO though.

I can just say that. There were like so many stories you told me. It was like, we were in my car in the alley. It was like, what? What happened to you when this happened though? If it's like high school, it really caught high school. This is like, this is like post-college. Okay, then you're fucking weird because you have a house.

No, no, I had a... But I think we were... Fuck it's up with you. No, I don't remember the seconds. I think it was one of those things where... I remember the seconds. I think it was one of those things where... I remember the seconds.

I remember the seconds. I think it was one of those things where... I remember the seconds. I remember the seconds. I remember the seconds. I remember the seconds. I remember the seconds. I remember the seconds. I remember the seconds. We didn't have sex, we didn't have sex, we didn't have sex. It was like a good night, we were both going our separate ways, and we were saying good night at a car, and then we started kissing, and then it became like, it escalated, and then it was just like in the moment type thing, right? That was just a thing.

And then we were doing stuff, but because it was like in a car, at a, like on a street, she starts giving me a hand job, but I'm like not taking my jeans off, because it's like, there's like, you know. Sure. And then, but she also isn't particularly like, either I mentioned she was a virgin,

and she was giving me a hand job, but it was like, it was like, yeah, I know that point. I know that point. It was like a rub though at that point, right? Yeah, well, that's what I'm talking about, man. It was like, what was the zipper situation like? It was like, that was open.

Oh wait, your dick was through the, no, no, no, no, it was not that zipper, but it was just like, she was just like, it was in there and it was over, was it an over the pant rub? No, it was like in the pants, but like, yeah, did you wear cargo shorts? No, I did not wear cargo shorts.

How was she like? She just like, like, you should wear this? Here's the problem, Blaine lane is it was the most violent thing I've ever experienced in my life And it was like it was like it was like she was conducting an orchestra But I was like and I was just like trying not to because it was painful. Why would you not say so? And I was like, oh, I was like, oh, dintler. Like, I was trying to be like, I didn't want to like mess up. You didn't want to ruin your chances of getting,

no, no, whatever. No, I just didn't want to like mess up her like mental, like, oh, that's bad. You know, I was just trying to be like, he's about positive or reinforced, positive reinforcement. Right. Okay. It was You know, I was just trying to be like, he's about positive reinforcement. Positive reinforcement. Right. Okay. It was the most, I mean, it was bad.

I still can't figure out how this whole thing is happening. Like, how she's getting her hands in. She just, it was like through, no, it's like, it wasn't like up my pants, dude. It was, she didn't go up the, it's like, ankle. This is like here. Yeah, it went in and then just kind of like,

but like pants, I don't know why, pants? Where are you from? Like, Belmont and Pico. It was like, it was just like, this kind of thing. Like, give that, Peter. Please make a good kid come down. Damn it.

It was that kind of thing and it was just, it hurt. So, okay. This sounds like the same girl, but if we've been went and reported to the police about this, there'd be like, oh yes, handler. The fifth street handler, we know her. I have a lady story.

Oh, here it is. It's for rare. It's from the time before, but not really. Like basically, we don't know that that. I don't know past max. Yeah, well, basically I knew something was up. I knew it was smoke and there was fire privately online, but definitely didn't broadcast it. So what happened was I was dating this girl

and then we broke up. And I had just gotten to UT, I was walking around, now they have the green piece canvassers, a green piece canvasser, like started hitting on me, it's like girl. And I was like, oh, this will be interesting, like, because she seems to be interested in me. So we make plans for a date. I literally look up online how to read body language because I don't have that. Like, it's like, yeah, I was like,

I don't know how you, he'd get to the next level with the lady. And so, yeah, so then we basically, all the signs were there. And then it got to the point where I was getting a BJ And it was it was she had really really large front teeth Oh And uh, yeah, it was it was an attack. It was an assault like a biting type

And that is that what happens that I was in a sult. I was like, like a biting type. And that's the same girl. Is that what happened? Is that, I was just, I was turning you. Yeah, it's like, no, it was like, it was just like, like, I was like, wow, like, somebody's not showing up to the party. And it's just kind of like, well, maybe if we try a little bit longer, and I was like, I can't tell if this is, like, as I got in, looked up some women before that worked. But this just absolutely did not. I was like, which one is it? It couldn't really figure it out, but it was really bad.

Yeah. So what advice would you give to either a girl or a boy, a virgin, and they're like ready to take next step? Because in my opinion, I think if you're transparent about it, then I think that's the best route to it. Can I, wait, I have a small story that feeds into this.

So at first, I wanna go back to the Virgin and say, I was, despite being handled, I was still impressed that she was like having, being a virgin, she just went for it, you know? It wasn't like, there was, there's a certain, what would you say? Like, you know, I don't know. There's an average.

Shae Kwa. Yeah, there you go. There's just, you know, you should go get her. I appreciate that. So my first fiance, I dated in high school, had never, she'd never done anything with a guy before and she decided that one day that she wanted to give me a hand job. She was also, she went on to be like a neurobiology major,

right, and so she was like, all right, I'm gonna do this. And so she was like, okay, well, I wanna watch you do it to yourself. And then I'm gonna observe, and like basically take notes. And I was like, that's the most brilliant use of science I've ever seen in my life. That's actually, that's not a bad point. No, it's not right. Yeah, so literally, yeah, she just watched me jerk off

for like 10 minutes and I was like, and she just like watched and she's like, okay, I got it, I got the form. I mean, I don't know if I can do that, but it'd be weird. How far into the relationship were you? This was in high school, so, I mean, but we'd probably been dating, I don't know,

six months or something. Okay. I guess you're fairly comfortable at that point. Yeah, and that's smart. I've never seen that again, but you know, neurobiologist man, they know what they're doing. Yeah, to the point what Josh, I didn't have a... It's not like after that bad hand job, it's like I didn't talk to that girl.

Right. So yeah, it's like a communication and like growing and, you know, healing from the chaining. Right. But yeah, I mean, I don't think there's a, if someone's a version, then that's fine. If you want to wait till marriage, then that's fine too. Or if you just haven't had sex, there's no right or wrong.

It's just like, do whatever you want to do. So there's a huge stigma on virginity and the loss of it. There was just a story today about some actress being shamed because she was like in her 30s and was still like waiting for marriage. Like someone on that insecure show. Yeah, what? Yeah.

I do remember a certain point where I was like, all right, I just wanted to have sex because I was like, yeah, I just wanted to not be a virgin. Would you be afraid to share what age you are? I'll say straight up, I think I've waited in the middle. I was in high school. I think I waited until I was like 20 or 21. I was 22.

I was 20 for like actual sex. I was 20. Yeah, no, I was under 18. Really? Yeah. I am. Knowing how you are now, I can't imagine a teenage Chris. But that's why.

Don't you understand? Now it all makes sense. That's why when you're like, oh, you act like a teenager and get women, because that worked for him as a teenager. And he's just kept doing it the last 15 years. So. I don't know. I'm a god damn it. It's good.

I feel like we should get off the subject of sex. Unless you guys keep going, but I feel like it's going to be really raunchy. I mean, yeah, I had notes on stuff to talk about. And then we talked about sex for an hour. It was mostly grievances. I think the sex was actually pretty late for a four. I think grievance part. I feel like a lot of, I feel like very, you know.

It's good to air your grievances in a public setting. It's like a weight off my shoulders. Yeah. Wait, before we go, can I show off this sweet shirt that I got in Alaska? I just said, where it, look, where's, look at this. Look how cool this shirt is. Oh God.

This is for Blaine too. I got it just for him. You can see. Oh yeah. You got it for me, but he didn't give me one. Oh my God. That's a moose Kylo Ren on this shirt. That's how, oh. That's a moose Kylo Ren. There was like even, it's like smaller details,

like I think like one of the pilots was like an eagle. Yeah, they're all, it's like somebody, or it's in Alaska and it's like whoever was in charge of like their merch department for tourism, just they let someone go crazy. Yeah. And there's like somebody was in Alaska and it's like whoever was in charge of like their merch department for tourism Just they let someone go crazy. Yeah, and there's like 10 awesome shirts. It's like a Harry Potter one It's like she's like Harry otter. Yeah, it's like Harry otter, which sounds like another sex story, but yeah Oh, I have a I have a funny thing here. Okay. Do you have anything? Well, that's just a thing. I was talking to I have a funny thing here. Okay, do your funny thing.

Well, that's just a thing. I was talking to a martial rumor recently about like, like we were talking about like, when you go on it, this is going back to dating, but going on dating and like you meet someone and it's like you know that no matter how good the date goes, it's not gonna work out because of the name. Has that ever happened?

The name? Like your name wouldn't mix. Your name married. So like, would you do it at Chris? Like a female Chris? At Chris and Chris? That's fine. It's like the name combination.

If she was to take my wife's name. What if I was to do that? Oh, wait, what? It's that thing. That's some fucking creepy. Okay, all right, whatever. What is the situation now? Her name was Demaris.

Demaris Demaris? That's kind of awesome. Right, that's almost like, I would love to meet somebody named Demaris Demaris. This is a bad bitch. Yes. It's like, I'm Demaris Demaris. I'm Demaris Demaris.

Yeah, what? Look, he just said bitch and you didn't say anything. You just sat idle. Lane is a sweet boy. What's the context to? You know, like I think bad bitches in empowering term. Yeah, what you call women horrible things. Yeah, Marshall had a good one though.

Okay. Okay, his he went out. Is he okay? I can see what's going just because I know what his last name is. He went out with a girl named Annelie. And wait. Annelie River. Wait, but didn't wait wait, wait, but it was spelled, it

was spelled A in A L Y. Oh, so, Emily, remember, her parents fought her. Well, no, I mean, that's, yeah, there's bad naming anyway going on, but also with the last name, Rimmer. Annally. Yeah. Well, but wait, isn't, didn't he say that like his parents are like, I, I hope I'd not make this up, isn't it? Like Anita and something else that. No, I know this is another one. I think my sister knew how to friend her name was Anita and she married a guy with the

last name Dick. Oh, damn. Oh, damn. Keep your maiden name on that point. So her name was Anita Dick. Also, I think her middle name started with a C, so it was Anita C. Dick. It was just like, she can't make reservations at restaurants under her name. Yeah, table not Table for a need a dick

Damn it. This is not as cool of a or it's not as sexy, but I went to a wedding a couple weeks ago where the guys last name was fear And I was like that's awesome Fear is here, you know like Max Femre. Yeah, you like that max fear pretty cool. You should marry him Blaine fear. That's Blaine is just the worst name. So like no awesome last name will save it. I think Blaine fear sounds like a like a John Wick kind of like action hero.

Yeah, I'm fear. Blaine fear. John Wick. Yeah. I always thought my first name was goofy as a credit name, which is why I had a really awful credit name in college. What do you mean? Do you remember, J. Dylan Flanagan,

J. Dylan Flanagan, Oh man, I had forgotten about that. I had Jesus. He would, yeah. And he also wore, and whenever he would directed where like a stupid hat. Tell me why you wearing that hat? He'd be like, that's my directing hat.

Tell me that's a fucking J. J. Dylan Flanagan, He's not a joke. So I knew, so he would credit yourself, J. Dylan Flanagan, was that like out of jest? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, a Dylan Flanagan, you know? It's not a joke. So I knew it, so you would create yourself, Jay Dylan Flanagan, was that like out of jest? No, no, I wish I was that smart.

No, it was. You had your funny persona, which was Todd Spooner. I had a dumb character I played on screen called Todd Spooner, but there was, yeah, no, I just, it wasn't trying to be pretentious. I just didn't think that Josh Flanagan sounded, I feel like Josh and Flanagan don't meet together very well. One's a Hebrew name and the other one's Irish, so it's kind of like a worst find.

But what's this, what's this hat? What kind of hat? It's like a leather, it's like a like a cow leather or no, it's a kangaroo leather, like cowboy hat. It was really steep looking too. A cowboy hat? Yeah. Cool, really cool. That sounds awesome now.

It was awesome, you were out. I'm not gonna make fun of those because there's a the guy that runs Star Wars Rebels Where's one of those hats and like normally be goofy as fuck but he looks cool. Yeah, yeah, I mean You shouldn't wear that hat. Yeah, you still have it. I know why do you have it actually? It's too small to fit because leather like shrinks over time But the what's this name when I finished day five season one, Jason Harder gave me a brand new one. Have you seen, I wore it. Did you not see I wore that one in West Texas? Oh, I saw that.

Yeah, but that was also like, we needed hats in that. We didn't have any fireworks here. We all saw it. We did have a lot of it. We did have a lot of it. We did have a lot of it. We did have a lot of it. Yeah, but you would, you would, you was like, you didn't, this was, this is my directing

hat. I wear this hat when I'm directing. There's a different screen. I'm wearing a hat. I wore it to class also. Uh huh. And places. Directing actors class. Mm hmm.

I don't know. It was just so cool. I was really cool in college. Yeah. Was that correct? You were there. I was there. What did I mean? I have a question for you.

I have a question for you. As an army man. As an army man. Got it. So Elon Musk. Okay. And like a bunch of robotic specialists and scientists, they made a press thing that was urging the UN to make it illegal to build autonomous killing robots

because that's the third age of war. That's the third age of war. If we go down that path, it's like it's like okay gunpowder, nuclear bombs, killing machines. Right. Which seems inevitable, but go on. I feel like it's inevitable too. Yeah, as an army man, someone who's an army like what are your thoughts on that? I mean that's, that's like I just said, I mean that seems inevitable to me, like that there's going to be more and more like unmanned things. I mean, isn't that the goal?

Like the goal is to somehow fight wars without actually losing your own soldiers. So. But then it becomes a thing where it's like, then there's just robots designed to kill, who just kill, can, can, Well, they kill all the other side's robots, then I guess they kill the people.

Yeah, and then they just start killing people. It's like at some point the robots have to kill, they just start killing people. It's like at some point, the robots have to kill, they just start killing people. Well, it's like that, you ever see that Star Trek episode where like, it's like the two guys debating and they like can push a button and kill like so many of each other's troops. And so they just come to these weird like treaties

where they're like, oh well, we'll lose half a million and you'll lose a million. Like, okay, and they like hit the button and like, somewhere, you know, far away their troops die and like, that's the end of the conflict or something. Yeah. I don't know. I'm, yeah.

It's like, it takes away the people from the shore combat. But there's already like weird stuff, not necessarily like that, but I mean, like just to me, the concept that war has rules has always been a weird thing. And the army fights by Geneva Convention rules, right? So when I was in Iraq, there are things like, if you are advancing on an enemy and you, I forget what it's called, the line of advance, L away. So like you run through an enemy's position, you shoot whatever bubble, you get to the end of it.

Technically, you're not allowed to then stop, turn around, and shoot anyone who's behind you. You have to render aid as a prisoner of war. So it's a weird, like, what does somebody flank do? Or something? Well, that's different, but it's like, that's the kind of weird gray areas you get to do. It's just the general idea to me of like, civilizing war is a bizarre thing.

So say you past, I'm confused with that. Say you passed someone's position and they were in hiding. They're in a bunker or there's still a threat then, yeah. But it's like if you go through and you wound them, you didn't kill them. Okay, you wound them. You can't turn around and execute them or that's a war crime.

Sure. You have to render it. I guess so we work. But it's also like gray and fuzzy and it's a long list of stuff. And yeah, I don't know. I mean, yeah, but the tech seems inevitable. You know the movies and they're like, what's the rules for engagement?

Yeah. Yeah. Does that bullshit or do they actually do that? There's rules of engagement. It just depends what you're... They changed when I was in. When I went to Iraq, they were very different. They were much wider open. It was like Wild West almost. And then like as people got settled there, the rules changed a lot. Yeah. I will say when I was in, the talk wasn't about vehicles

and robots, all that stuff, it was about this thing called the land warrior system, which was basically like exoskeletons, like metal exoskeletons for actual soldiers, and it was like digital readouts that would show, you know, like the, you know, your eye would be able to see the map of where everyone was. But no one actually did that. That was a, no, not on the theoretical.

Well, it was in development. So they had, there were tech companies that were working on it and bidding for government contracts that were doing it. I'm sure the special ops have some of that stuff. But yeah, but that was the direction it seemed to be going back then. Or Iron Man, like 15 years ago, yeah.

That's cool. That's cool. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's going to happen whenever they get the random killing machines or what that's going to mean for two, like someone like, you know, whoever North Korea, like even like a small militia gets control of something like that.

It's like, I think they made a documentary about it. I think it's called Terminator. Yeah. Oh, did you see Terminator two is, they put it on the 3D. Yeah. Torch and it were sweet about that. And they fixed like weird stuff. They like that one stunt shot where he's coming off

the bridge on the motorcycle where it's clearly a stunt man. Like they went back in and like actually put Arnold's face on it this time. So that's one of those fixes I'm like, I'm okay with that. Yeah, I'm pretty stoked about seeing that. I wonder if they're gonna show that.

I remember having a talk like while we're on that kind of like the robot subject, a talk about like thinking about warfare from like a terrorist perspective. Not like, oh, those poor guys, but like fighting a drone and imagining how that process would be, to where there's this thing that's like up in the sky,

super fucking far away, and it just bombing the show you, destroying your guys. And like even if you take that thing down, which like chances are you're not going to, you don't even kill another person from the other person's team. Just kill a robot.

A robot. It's like how fucking disheartening that must be. Nothing, you know, I don't know. It's just, it was just an interesting like, devil's advocate kind of like person. You want the satisfaction of killing a man, I get it. No, I just, I don't know, it's just like, we're put into those terms, you never think about it

like that, but yeah. No, yeah. Robots. Because I mean, it's the comment. And that's the other thing too. A lot of scientists are like, or no, no, Elon Musk. See, I feel like he's like the most visible tech,

scientist type person in the world right now, maybe. Yeah, but he was saying that AI is the biggest threat to humanity possibly. Yeah, yeah. Like, because we don't know what it's gonna do. Well, it's, yeah. And he was like, he was like, it is, this is like summoning the demon,

you know, or the, it's like you got the pantogram and you're summoning him and you think you can control it and want some and the cat's, the Pandora's Box is open or whatever. Yeah. The cat's in the Pandora's Box. The cat's in the Pandora's Box is open or whatever. Yeah. The cats and the Pandora's Box. The cats, cats. In the Pandora's Box.

The cats. I don't know. I mean, it's hard to actually think about that and think about how they can uprise. Like, I guess with automotive, like with cars becoming autonomous, like, would they control that? Or are they just going gonna shut down systems? Well, you don't know.

There'd be like, are they gonna be mean? Or do they just leave? That was the other one. And just like, all the side like, nah, not worth it, we're gone. Just like, what did they go? I mean, it's like, just to another place, they don't need oxygen.

It's true. I don't know. I feel like they would just kill us at some point. What was the banana? I don't remember the I feel like they've just killed us at some point. What was the banana? I don't remember the name of it, but the banana banana factory thing where it was like. I feel like I'm going crazy because it's like like a you put a computer in charge of a banana factory and then it just starts selling more and more bananas and then. It. What I don't know what you're talking about. What is I, the AI, is programmed to make bananas for sale. And basically steam rolls over the entire earth to sell bananas to nobody because like

a computer doesn't have the logic necessarily to know like what it's there. So if it's prime directive, it's the cell bananas. It's a cell bananas. It's impossible to sell bananas. Yeah, like if that was the thing that came online first, it just would like kill everybody and just sell bananas to make some bananas. Sell them.

Well, I know that Amazon got rid of people in their factories because they have like conveyor belts and shit. That's moon around. Yeah. They got rid of people so that they could crank up the speed of those things. So they don't need them. And it was a danger to people that were actually there.

So it's like, yeah. The Amazon factory takes over the world. Exactly. To delivering packages, no. It's just no way. Delivering furniture and stocking warehouse. It's for no purpose. And then other robots are just buying them

and giving back bananas. Have a banana, thank you. Thank you. Here is your furniture. I've watched that movie. Yeah, well, we won't be around then. The robots will have already won and the places would've been in us.

I will say a weird thought to me is that in, you know, like 10 years or whatever, like supposedly most cars are gonna be self-driving. Oh, yeah, I think that's super cool. I mean, I've already been cool. I've been in lots of self-driving car rants on the podcast. Yeah. I can't wait for it. I hate driving, human socket driving, robots are better. They are better. Yeah. It'll be weird because there'll be a whole generation like whatever that next generation is.

It'll be like they don't remember driving. Yeah, it'll be like, oh yeah, you used to drive us again. It's like what an old man. I know. Yeah. But anyway, I think that that's that's that's the podcast. I think that is the podcast. That's the podcast. That's the podcast. So thank you for watching. Thank you. And stay tuned for the post show if you're a first member. But no, we don't actually show that live. Oh, well, Alright, good night. Describe the show to a newcomer in a more familiar way. Do you like apples? Example. Together in Trempit hosts.

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