Rooster Teeth Podcast - Burnie's Last Episode - #564

Episode Date: October 1, 2019

Join Gus Sorola, Matt Hullum, Geoff Ramsey, and Burnie Burns as they discuss original concepts vs repeated ideas, company changes, emotional support animals, and more on this week's RT Podcast! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the rescue podcast. This is brought to you by him's magic, the gathering arena and Dave. I'm Gus. The dude, man. Um, Jeff. Um, did I do it? And I'm Gus.

Good, you did it. Thank you. I was getting shit. I was never gonna mess with the intros because it's just one joke. Yeah, because it gets the end. Gus is the end. That's the one, buddy.

That's the way you get it. You just keep repeating it over and over. And then you get that. When I don't do it, just one joke. Because it gets the end-gusted. That's the one, buddy. That's the way you get it. You just keep repeating it over and over. And then you get the, when I don't do it, people get mad. They're like, why didn't I say it? Is it your, oh yeah, that's mad. Yeah, I don't think. I think you don't want to deal with the heat I get

when I don't introduce myself twice. It's non-stop. He almost got canceled last time. So, it's a big problem. Also, it is though you can imagine how frustrating it is when people come on here, who are performers five days a week at this company. They come on here, there's an intro,

and it's usually the third seat, the person just doesn't know what to do when it gets them. It's like, couldn't figure it out, couldn't like just bring context figure it out. That's why I read before we went, it's like, just remember this, this, this, this. You briefed everybody. Gotta get it done.

We have a system. Tell them I'd be professional, I had my laptop. I sound on, so I feel that. I felt really bad for a second the other day. Really? I was laughing at a kid who was crying at Home Depot. Why was he crying? So, I ran into this kid a few times.

Finsically? I was there. That's why I was crying. He was, him and his brother were just being like, little fucking dicks You know that those those those upstairs that the home dupe employees used to like they move around They got the signs all over it's like employees only they were climbing up the stairs and then seeing who could jump off the tallest step Trying to like walk by them and they're like they're getting in my way and like stopping and just staring at me and not moving like

Because they know her trouble. I think you're an employee I don't care. Anyway, I was like I was fed up with these kids and in my way, and like, stopping and just staring at me and not moving, like. Cause in order trouble, is it your employee here? I don't care. I don't care. Anyway, I was like, I was fed up with these kids. I kept running into them, they kept being little dicks. I go to check out, and I can hear one of them kind of yelling. I'm like, thank God, I'm checking out. I'm gonna be done.

I have to run into him. I go to leave. And as I'm leaving, one of the kids like kind of pushes by me, like, tears streaming down his face. And he's looking around, yelling, dead. And I was like seriously right little dick You probably like ten you should have been like oh you look at your dad I saw him leave like ten minutes ago. Oh

That guy but this man like a bald. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's gone. You should have said your mind now Yeah, exactly I'm gonna show them your receipt from home deep. I will quick say all your dad told you to me Child now because then you go to jail for that joke, right? Exactly. You just showed him your receipt from Home Depot real quick. Say, oh, your dad's told you to meet me. You're my child now. Because then you go to jail for that joke, right? That comes back and beats the shit out of you. Yeah, what are you doing at Home Depot? What was I doing?

Oh, thank you. We buying like ratchets. But there was a, I have a, this fucking Soaker hose that has a hole in it. I get gardening, I get this. And I don't know, fucking possum, two to hold in it or something. And I tried putting like,

Puff legs tape. You know, there's a hole in your soaker hose, that would be, that's your metal. It's like high pressure. It's like, not, not, it's too big. So I try, I was like, you know, see those stupid flex tape covers, right?

Flex tape, they can, it's waterproof, whatever. Try to fix your flex tape didn't fucking work. So I had to, here's your problem, flex tape is for bigger projects. If you needed to put a boat back together flex tape what you need I could do a hose Flex it's on fuck like some of that spray shit that like that spray adhesive stuff, and I just that's why I was here for so don't want to open up a can of worms, but You know home Depot

Little trope is it very yeah super trope I didn't switch to lows Yeah, super droppy. I didn't know. I switched to lows. Oh, lows is so significant. No, but the worst. They were at least. What is your sweat? I switched to lows.

It's the worst. No, it really sucks. Like, it's like, you got to lows. And then you, you got to lows to shop. And then you even got a home depot to get the three things they didn't have. They used to have for something. Yeah, they were.

I always thought it was funny. Like, you know, every, like all these stores have slogans, right? Like, I remember for a long time, home gate was was, you can build it, we can help. Loads was, let's build something together. And McCoy's, which is like another horror story, was go build something. Like I love how different the attitude is.

Yeah, I never go build yourself. Quit loitering, go build yourself. Yeah, it's like the first two are like, let's do something together. They're like, yeah, get the fuck out. Now, I've, I've, I've the fuck out. I've built yourself asshole. I thought we were talking about this with Jason the other day, I think, but I've been trying to support local hardware stores,

something going to breed in company, because it's pretty close to my house. No shit, they've been around forever. Yeah, the closest hardware store. Marcus was telling me that's how he got into the entertainment industry. See, work there. Yep.

And a lot of people in the industry would go, they're an ask for weird shit And I think it was a DP or maybe it was an art department guy director of photography. Yeah, not the other kind of Different film world, but came in and read and read and met Marcus. Those are like this is cool dude This and hired him. That's where that so but that would not have happened and who wasn't the hired him Like this part of the story kind of fuzzy on because of the DP. At the time of the evening. That that's also where that that you two students went to go by all the hardware to commit that murder.

Well, okay. Well, you just chopped up the other girl. Yeah, that was the first thing I said to Jason. We were at Jason, Saldana. Yeah. Last week. And I said we were talking talking about Home Depot and like Lowe's and like we talked about like, you know, shopping where your political, I guess, interest lie or not.

And I mentioned that I'd been going to Breeden Company and Jason just goes, oh that's what I do about the stuff to cut up the woman. I swear about the sauce and stuff. Okay. Okay. And like not really enough to Okay. Okay. And like, not really enough to go.

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like when I was looking for a house, I was, he's like, I heard you looking for a house, like yeah, he goes, this just came in the market, this just came in the market, do you just do this all day? He does, like just looking for listings. He found us in office once.

He did? He found my, like the house that I lived in before my new house, the one that I lived in with Griffin, that they still live in. He's the one that told me about the listing. Is it really this one? I just went for sale today.

And then when I bought the new house, he already knew what it was. I was like, yeah, I'm at a house over in this area. And he goes, oh, I know where that one is. I bet it's this one. And I was like, yeah, he knew my house when I said I moved into a new place. You're where?

I said, this place in this place. And he goes, oh, is it this one I got? Yes, that's it. Yeah. It's kind of weird, but at the same time, it's like, he's just up to date on everything. He knows all the houses that are for sale in Austin, and he knows all the used cars that are for sale in Austin as well. Oh, is that true?

Like classic cars or stuff? Yeah, he, he, I don't know, he always looks like Craigslist, used cars or something, you're like, oh, yeah, like this kind of car. He's like, oh, here's five that are for sale right now in Austin. When we move to this studio, there's a path to get here that goes by this kind of classic car dealership. And I think about you two guys every time I drive past that thing.

Like once a week. Because of their thermal trucks. Yeah, because, well, not because of the thermal trucks, the M was always he wanted a classic El Camino. That's what he wanted. Jeff wanted a classic Bronco. Still do. That was the big dream. I'm going to make it someday wanted. And Jeff wanted a classic Bronco. Still do. That was the big dream gonna make it someday.

They're gonna get that Bronco. Just as soon as I pay off the more important shit. Well, I do remember two. He went out, he went shopping for a Bronco and literally bought a Mustang. That day. Cause it was for sale. Or you just like, I looked and it was too hard.

I couldn't find one. So I just, one day, one day, it was this big dream, he stuck with it for one thing. 66 or 65? 65. You wanna give one a, say hi with that baby? You're right, it was a black 66 musta.

Could it have been any vehicle named after a horse? Yes, probably at that point. Okay, he looked at a female. It was awesome. Yeah, but uh. The, the, the, the, the, the, the truck's where he trucks for terrible though. That was like what, 2004? Four, yeah. You're trucks were you trucks were terrible though. That was like what 2004?

For yeah, I needed a car. I need the cheapest car. It's when I moved back from point of view. You guys were like first paycheck you guys. No, I need I needed the cheapest car. Could the drive to fucking buta to work? Get the fuck out of here. So you bought a 1960 Chevy.

I bought a 64 Chevy for $3,000. And it was beautiful to drive by every day on the side of the interstate. At least I didn't fucking replace the engine and let it rot in my driveway Ashole you know we were talking about that you fucking piece of shit You didn't you let it you the engine died you replaced it and then you didn't you never drove it again It's fucking sat in your driveway and rotted it rot. It's the word it rotted the guy drove it away What he bought it fucking thing was no I refused that. Now I believe the rotting part,

because you remember I like went through the trouble. You guys were coming over on such a regular basis. And my drive will hit, then we have the beautiful voices. Fucking state again, it's been 17 years. Skinny, it's been 16 years. Skinny little driveway. So I paid money out of my own pocket to build a parking pad. Like I'm just an extension of the driveway

where these guys could park. Nobody asked you to do that. Yeah, it was a birthday nice. I was happy. I was happy to park on the graph. The first day that cement's brand new, the first day you could handle having a car, and Jeff Marx is car there, and it left a gigantic rustane on it. There's a big fair half of it with oil. It wasn't all right.

Also, it's a fucking driveway in that elements man. But it's brand new. It's a fucking driveway in that elements man. But it's brand new. It's a car house. You have to admit it looked horrible. The stain? Yeah. I didn't pay a lot of attention to this.

I see, I find it miles. You parked on top of it. You couldn't see it. Yeah, for sure. See, I did a thing in my current house. I cannot be luck with this. I did a thing in my current house when I moved in where I was having the house painted on the inside.

Anyway, so I told the painters, hey, can you guys just paint the garage floor? Like seal it, because Marcus, you can't see it, but he sealed the floor in here in stage five. And it's really like a shop floor. And it's great, and it makes it easier to clean everything. So I had him do that. And it's like, they had never done it before,

and they just did a super shitty job, and I'm still dealing with it like five years later. Is it like a gritty texture, like sand or anything to it? No, in fact, I made it too light. I should have made it darker, because now it's like I had to clean the thing the whole time because it shows stains like a light gray. And then anywhere where there was oil already in the cement,

the oil was kind of like rose back up again, and then knocked the paint off there. So I have like this whole cement. So my, you know, like the whole purpose, yeah. Totally defeats the purpose. My cousin who lives in your neighborhood, he and his husband, they put a fucking lift in their garage so that he can lift the Lamborghini or whatever

Carias, I just don't know if he actually has a McLaren right now, but Gaze move in and all the property values go up. That's it. That's what happened. That's what happened. Oh, with their $100,000 cars. My cousin's husband collects cars and he's a successful, he owns a construction company, so he's got money.

Does the Lamborghini drip rust onto the McLaren? No, it drips it onto a Porsche. I know, Porsche. But say he literally, because he has like four, he just keeps cars all the time. So they have a lift, they have two lifts that raise up, so they can put the other cars under. But they have like a, it's almost like they got the floor

powder coated, but it has like a grit in it and it's like a black and white thing. It's like cool. Flex it, it should have that. It doesn't have that. So. I'm trying to think over thinking, do I know any dude couples that are broke?

I don't think I do. What is the demographic? Are they like at the top of the food chain in terms of like income and everything? I don't want to generalize. Here we go though. Here we go. My last podcast, I have 90 minutes.

Here we go. Listen, this is not my last podcast, okay? I have to come back. I have to say, anecdotally, in my experience, gay men are the happiest people on earth. Yeah, man, yeah. They really are. I don't know a lot of miserable game men. And

they, I just, they have it figured out. Henry Rollins had a bit, I think I may have even talked about this on the podcast before, but he had a bit when he, in his spoken word, where he talked about in that like 87, he was living in LA and his neighbors were, were, were these two gay dudes. And it's kind of how he, like his introduction to gay culture, I guess, was living next to these two dudes. And he said, I how he, like his introduction to gay culture, I guess, was living next to these two dudes. And he said, I figured out after about two weeks, like these guys would come home, they would drink a bunch of beer,

they would watch baseball, then they would listen to black Sabbath and fuck each other. And I was thinking, what is that? He was thinking like, these guys are having every day is a vacation for these guys. Like, their lives are awesome. Yeah. I'm fucking miserable. These guys, they every day is a vacation for these guys. Their lives are awesome.

They're fucking miserable. These guys, they're just high five and then fucking and getting drunk and watching sports. Can I only imagine it? Can I only imagine, yeah. If I had a boyfriend or a partner, I know that conversations take place would be like, hey, which one of us do you think could come further?

And that would be a day, that would be a day figuring that out. I can't have that conversation with Ashley. You know what I mean? It's like I'm missing that in my life. Sorry Ashley. It's a beautiful baby that we made together now. But if you ever want to have a, come off.

Yeah, you want to go out with a bang? I mean, I see if you can make it off of the, off of the Poles concrete. Wait until the post show. We can't let you get on the post show. Also, can I say, also preface it, that like if you talk to like older game men,

nobody has had a tougher time in America in the last 50 years, maybe than older game men. Well, a lot of people have had a tough time. A lot of people have had a hard time. Like, the world is a much better place. I heard actually Scott Thompson from Kids in the Hall was on a podcast recently. I heard the interview and he was just talking about like,

how much it fucking kind of sucks to be an older gay entertainer who has like broken down a lot of doors but get no credit for it from the current, I guess generation of gay people who didn't have to go through that. And just like, he just had like a thousand yards stare and he just like, my life has been miserable. Seriously.

Growing up in that era, they also got, I didn't know this, they got fucked over. Like they didn't make a dime off that HBO show. Well, and it's also, and they didn't make a dime off of it on Comedy Central, which is where the show really had its legs. Hey, you know, if you ever like tune into a radio station or a podcast and one of the kids in the hall

is sitting down for an interview, buckle up. Cause it's, it's, it's, it's no like real happy stories. Like even Dave Foley, who went off and was on talk radio for years after that. His, his stories that he tells about his divorce. Yeah, he can't go back to Canada. He can't go back to Canada. According to him, he can't go back to Canada. Because the moment he sets foot in Canada, they just like, you know, destroys bank count.

No, baby. Yeah. I don't know if you hear the baby in the background, probably can't because Mike's doing his job, but my little baby is sitting over there with Ashley. Maybe he'll make an appearance later, say hello. Hello. What's that? After this, maybe baby, maybe later.

I might have to go to the next. You already, you're already booking your replacement over here? Yeah, right, right. He's raised up. Teddy was, Teddy wanted to come today. It's gonna be tough with school and everything. We, I, I had the worst traffic coming over here today.

Really? Yeah, like after lunch, I was like trying to cross the traffic, trying to get back across town. And it was just like, it used to be like, oh, traffic's only bad rush hour. Then it was like, oh, traffic's only bad rush hour and Friday. Then it was like, what is about Friday?

The fuck is it with Friday? It starts at like 10 a.m. And then now it's like, oh, it's just, if the sun's out, there's traffic. Or if the sun's out, or it's 2 a.m. Which is like, it's just creeping to the point where it's gonna be all the time. So a little baby, little Gustavo Raul

will swirl the fourth over there. He, no relation. He has. He has. You want a day fully situation here? Yeah. When he was. It's hard to feel,

how do you, this is the interview with Dave Foley. It's hard to feel bad for him. I think maybe it was either Joe Rogan or Howard Stern that is doing one of these in-depth things on. It's like, get all the money and it's like, you should call my money and everything. But then he also done, in the same breast tell stories about turning his outdoor pool in LA up to like 90 degrees so that the girls at the party would take their tops off. It's like, it's really hard

To feel bad for a guy who's still in a position to be able to do that I mean come on. Is there really that hot that you're like, oh, it's really hot. I better take my bikini top off To we just a stupid story a weird story to begin with who's all the curly hair. I'm drawn a blank I was it Kevin Andy dick no Kevin McDonald Kevin McDonald. Yeah, Kevin McDonald. Mark McKinnies on Superstore. I heard at a Destiny event. That was really. Mark McKinnies is interesting

because he was on Kiznahal and SNL. He's the only person that ever be on two of those shows. Really? But, uh, Kevin McDonald, yeah, fair enough. Kevin McDonald, I heard him on a podcast recently and he was talking about also fascinating. He was talking about, I think it was John Fugel saying,

on POTUS, but who's also a very funny comedian. But he was saying that interesting side effect of the current climate is the kids in the hall guys no longer, they no longer have permission from their audience to play women. Yeah, no one that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, because they, because they did it, they were like,

we did it at a necessity because we just didn't know any women. But yeah, they, they've had to cut all their female characters out of kids in the hall now. Does that include. But yeah, they've had to cut all their female characters out of kids in the whole now. Does that include a second lady character? Yeah, I'm gonna say. Like, if we cut him out of the shows that are current.

The live shows that they do and stuff on board. Oh, they're still doing it. Yeah, they do, yeah, they do still do tours and stuff and they get in trouble. They said they just had to stop. Huh, I don't know, I still work. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. And they were like great female characters too.

He was like, who's the dude from, the Terry Gilliam from Money Python that always play women and did some amazing job of doing it, but just can't, guess, do it these days. And that's all Kevin McDonald said. He was like, we weren't trying to take jobs away from women or anybody or anything. We were just ripping off Money Python

because we were in law. And we really was like, everything we did was a rip off of Money Python. Yeah, and just interesting, how times have evolved. And there was the other guy, I paint the call out for this, but he used the shorter guy, the more athletic guy. Bruce McCullough. Bruce McCullough, right?

Okay. He did some great like short film stuff on there, like that, you know, in the style of now digital shorts on SNL. Yeah. Of course, Rich Hall was doing shorts on SNL a long time ago. The Sniglitz guy. It's no credit for that. It's no credit for that. Get's no credit for that.

And he made some really amazing stuff. Yeah. Yeah, he made that one short where he worked as like sweeping up in a grocery store and there was that mat in front of the doors. It used to be not a sensor but a mat. You stepped on that one. Open doors at the grocery store

and he moved the mat to sweep under it and then a guy smacks into the door and they realized it's the door that's the mat that's magic. So he like takes it and puts in front of like bank vault stuff. That's a great idea. Opens it up. Then he like cuts it out and puts it on his shoes. It was like a really great short had nothing to do with SNL.

Another one back in that day that was really good was the one where Eddie Murphy put on white face and walking on this white guy all day. Yeah. Yeah. He went and tried to get a loan at a bank and stuff. Did you see he's coming back to his family? He's going to hope not to be on. He's going to host. Well, he's got a, he said like a contentious relationship with Hattie. S and L. I think yeah. Because there was that whole weird thing when they had that

was at the 40th anniversary. Whatever it came out and made that really weird speech. And everyone was a little weirded out by him. And then apparently he's been doing like literally nothing for like the last six or seven nothing intentionally. Have you seen Like 25% of all the Shrek movies. He's like the Robert Downey's But when was the last one's? The highest grossing actor of all time until he stopped even making movies did you see the comedians in cars? I did getting coffee with Eddie Murphy. No, he's on that. Yeah, it's fascinating. No, it's about it It's about 45 minutes long is it this season? Yeah

This is the great show. He's coming back to stand really. It's about, it's about 45 minutes long. Is it this season or? Yeah, it's the first episode of this most recent show. It's a great show. He's coming back to stand up. He signed a deal with Netflix. I think it's like a $70 million deal. Did you have his stand up albums from your kid? I had Delirious and Raw. I think it's the only ones that, yeah, there's all those I know of here.

Well, I had them until my parents took them away. Yeah, I wasn't allowed. I bought the, he made, who made this music albums? Mm-hmm. It's gotta be like one section on here that he hasn't alone. I bought the, he made, who made this music albums? It's gotta be like one section on here that he hasn't promoted. That's gonna be like really terrible vulgar comedy routine. So he's sneaking in for kids like me who got the albums, the comedy albums taken away,

but there wasn't. No, there wasn't. Which was a disappointment. It does, there's just plenty of wonderful 80s pop. Yeah. Just wonderful 80s pop, yes. That, that comedians and cars was really fascinating because he was pretty honest about his career and about his fear. Part of why he doesn't he hasn't unstand up in so

long is because he's terrified of it because it's been so long and he's like my biggest regret in life is that I stopped because it's so much harder to start and there he's like I he admitted he's like I feel so much pressure. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like what he's gonna do it now. He said he he couldn't avoid he admitted, he's like, I feel so much pressure. Yeah. And it's like, but he's gonna do it now. He said he couldn't avoid it forever. It's one of those shows too, where it's like, and we're dealing with this lightly because there's a podcast out there

that's not the same basic premise as day five. And all the creatives who work on day five are like, hey, what are we gonna do about this? It's like, that's just the way entertainment works. You know, it's like comedians and cars getting coffee. It's even like Jerry Seinfeld calls it out in the season's promo, all the people that have like ripped off comedians and cars getting coffee. And it's like, I almost like, maybe you shouldn't do that, you know? It wasn't through another show. Like, I feel like he made a statement.

It's an old one one. I feel like he made a statement about that. And then somebody pointed out, yeah, there was also this other show before yours. Right. That was basically the case at this point for just about anything. Any of you. Yeah. But I just saw like its MTV now has a hot one show. And Sean the guy who MTV has a hot one show. Dude, and Sean the guy with a tweeted about it, the guy who does hot ones and first we

feast, he's like, you know, they ripped it off, it's done to everything. Like even the set, the cheap low budget sets, the exact photo they call it. Hot twos. Wild ones. No. I call it? Hot twos. Wild ones. That's a, I'll see. I'm looking up. Eric, you can buy, pull that tweet up.

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But it's like, how many times it's like, I mean, stuff you've worked on, you see it again, how many RVB, there was no real like machinima before RVB, there was a couple like short films here or there, and there was this massive explosion of it afterwards. A company even bought the company named Machinima, you know, in that fervor afterwards. I know Immersion's been, you know,

done like a billion times, like the gaming thing. It was done with Ryan Dunne. The tough part about the hot ones thing is, and I've been through this, is it's MTV's, was it Wild Sauce? Wild Sauce. Wild Sauce, presented by Wendy's. And it's like, that the worst part is like,

when someone rips something off and then they get a big Sponsor oh boy. They should have called it wild and out of ideas That would get to laugh It even says wild sauce presented by Wendy's yeah, that's a show I got that dude at the YouTube partner summit last year. He was a nice guy Yeah, yeah, I tried to stuff that. It's just like when people take other people's ideas, they're like, can't even come up with their own look.

Like they have to take somebody else's look. You know what I mean? Like another person or whatever. Every detail character. Down to the last detail, man, that's just not, you know, the dude's not cool. It's like I said to the creative team working on it. It's like, congratulations you are now as genre.

That's what you can, when something becomes a genre and people just decide that this is not an original idea, now it's a genre and everyone else can do it. It's really cool, but at the same time for the person who originally did it, kind of fucking sucks. Like I always think about George Romero. You know, he came up, he told someone, come up with a new monster that has rules and everything.

And yeah, zombies are based on like Haitian voodoo and things like that. But the zombie apocalypse were all the dead rise from the grave from some event. And all the survivors are trying to stay alive. That's an original thing that he came up with. And then people decided zombies are a genre and now everyone does it, you know?

And why would he have, you know, get any money from the walking dead, even though he came up with this original idea? And he made the two best zombie movies ever. Go ahead. I think dawn of the dead. Dawn of the dead and not a living dead. Okay.

My only dead is a fantastic film. What is not a living dead? Not a living dead. This still holds up so far. Very, but before, before, before I decided to look it up, before like Romero's interpretation of zombies, you're right, it was all like,

Haitian voodoo stuff, or there was a, an old movie in 1932 where zombies were depicted as mindless henchmen under the spell of an evil magician. We were thinking they're like husks being controlled by some other. But the undead, he combined like the zombie thing

of being under a spell from voodoo and magic and combined that with like ghouls of like vampires or you know, Frankenstein's a monster. Frankenstein's a zombie. Yeah, he's a surgically constructed zombie and just one of them. So Millie is taking a zombie class in school. No, she is. What school? Yeah, I'm not paying my taxes. And I'm gonna write that in the total about no, there's a zombie class. But yeah, they actually studied Frankenstein. That's as the origins of zombies come from Frankenstein.

Frank's is monster. Yes, the one Franken Frankenstein. That's as the origins of zombies come from Frankenstein. Frank's is monster. Well, yes. The one with Frankenstein is the one that created the monster. George Zombie is not used in Night of the Living Dead. What's up? The word zombie is not used in Night of the Living Dead. Nor it's used one time, I think, in the original dawn of the dead. One time a guy in the mall on the radio says zombie, and that's it.

Yes, return of the Living Dead is awesome, only. I love that film. It has a very near and dear. Yes, return of the living dead is awesome, Ooni. I love that film that has a very, it's very near and dear to my heart because of the scene when the guy is like trying to, he's trying to eat his girlfriend, Tina. And he's like, I'm Tina, you heard me. You made me cut my hand off, Tina.

But I love you, darling. I want to eat your brains. I'll say one of the best moments in a movie ever. And the punk rock chick gets naked in the gray, in the cemetery and she's got awesome boobs. Yeah, that was the nice part of an 80s horror movie. Like, I won a club, I could thank you. You guys remember 86?

Nice. It was awesome. In every horror movie, somebody got naked. That movie had a lay mass ending though and that's what kills it for me. We're hurting living dead. It was all like a campy like send up. To me it was like somebody,

even though just no ending to the movie, they're like, let's nuke it, I I guess wasn't the main zombie, the main one? Wasn't he like supposed to be inspired by the Iron Maiden album cover guy? What? Who is the guy who's the guy who's the cover of Iron Maiden? Oh, Eddie. Eddie, right? I was gonna say Eddie.

Yeah, and I think that was the inspiration for that. I don't know. That's true. I never knew that as a kid. I was up to that too about, remember Brutal Legend? They came that Jack Black, he's kind of like that. That was like the original creators and artists inspiration for that was to talk about like sitting there and like staring at heavy metal album covers while listening to music and just imagining that world and what that would be and everything. That's so cool.

We were talking about that game recently because that was one of that was like a defining moment in Achima Hunter We got that game like a month early and so we made the definitive. Oh, yeah guide for all the collectibles did Jack leave it in his car But we Never came out because You can get it's in a pawn shop somewhere in Austin But uh we just just remember about how like how fucking hard it was how Jack and I played that game like probably a hundred hours Just driving around in that car looking for the last like four collectibles and just how miserable it was

Really it sucks to be first It kind of does I think about that every time I use an achievement guide even to this day So to somebody like sit down and like just really go through every nook and cranny at the level I was just having my back of my brain that the developers go, yeah, here's where you can find. Like, all this stuff. I've been dealing with that a lot with World of Warcraft Classic.

I've been playing that again. I don't know how you do that. And it's like, it's so big. I've forgotten stuff. Like, I don't remember where the fuck this is. And you go and you look it up, it's like someone's already written this huge guide about like, this is where this is, you fly here, walk this way,

you do this, like, thank God. What am I else already winning? Did this and that's a giant world. Yeah, what are the wailing caverns? What is that? It was an instance in the barons. But is it like hard to find like your way around and then there's something?

It's confusing once you're in. Okay, that was the post that I saw. It was like, I understood the meme from context. Oh, really? Yeah, it's in, it's inside the, um, it's a little cave just southwest across roads. Yes, it's like a big skull. Southwest of crossroads, yeah. Yeah, once you walk in there, it's like, oh, you have to's a little cave just southwest across roads. Yes. It's like a big skull. A lot of crossroads. Yeah. Uh, yeah.

Once you walk in there, it's like, Oh, you have to go a very specific way. It's like multiple levels. It's like a little 18 to 20 or so. Right. Yeah. That's about all of what are you doing with all your spirit time? Now you get to catch up on your backlog of video games. Finally, but you, uh, I'm working on my look. I did one of the things I'm happiest about with all these changes that are going on. Is the fact that Matt gets to be a human being. Yeah. Yeah. I think we're the things I'm happiest about with all these changes that are going on is the fact that Matt gets to be a human being Yeah, I think we're all really happy. I'm very excited to see

Great start. Yeah, this is just since Tuesday Now Matt, did the PR department today approve of this was that okay? Did you get? The PR and HR all the HR and all the other ARs. All the other ARs. Matt, go to the ER later. So what are you going to be doing with your spare time now, Matt? Now you're not CEO-ing. You know, I'm just trying to keep it relaxed, trying to keep it chill.

I'm going to do my own thing. I'm going to, you know, put some stuff together with people. It's gonna be great. You should have another kid. That's a good move. That is a good move. It's a good move. No, I don't know.

I think, you know, we're gonna make some more studio stuff. It's gonna be fun. We're gonna make some, I don't know what, movies and TV shows and all kind of crazy stuff. There's a thing to wait for you. Hey, your calendar's got a roll over. I want to see what your October date is. It's gonna be fun. We're gonna make some, I don't know what, movies and TV shows and all kind of crazy stuff. So, hey, your calendar's got a roll over. I wanna see what your October date is. It's back there. Today's September. But technically this podcast will be out in October,

so you have to do it. You have to roll out. The best sentence to start with technically. What's that? He's the best sentence to start with. Those are all your sentences to start with technically, I guess. I just like the October photo so much.

And I wanna see it. Yeah, it's my favorite one. I love that one. It's Gus' The Nurse. Oh. That's art, my friend. That was on my phone for a long time before the calendar came out.

That was a... You can be sad when 2019's over. You don't have that calendar? You can make another one. Dude, make a calendar one. Make a calendar one. Such a fucking pain in the ass. All I know about making calendars is,

no matter when you start, you're too late. We were the down panel of the office when we initially wanted to have that calendar. We thought that one photo on the river track for the episode of Red vs. Blue, was it the PSA, the, about being manly, was that it? Yeah, the macho PSA.

Oh right. Because Mashable determined that we had a 93% male audience. Back in the day, we were the most, something that was 98. We were the most male audience on the internet according to Mashable. What if I haven't a Mashable? What are they doing?

They're still serving full page ads and taking over your web browser. Fucking shitty ass website. Wow. That might joke. We'll be doing that next week. Oh, I can be upset about that too. So how about you, though, Bernie?

What are you gonna be working on? Are you working on the next Bernie Burns joint? What's that gonna be? Yeah, yeah. So for people who don't read press releases or things like that, this is gonna be my last podcast. We've been making changes inside the organization and I step down

as Chief Creative Officer, and now that job doesn't really exist anymore. That's been kind of distributed among a lot of different people. Jeff is our executive senior ultimate creative director. What I'm hearing is that I need to be distributing more because it seems like it's just me so far. Now you guys think we created a lot of horror cruxes

for the dough and the creative role. You just passed them around everywhere. It seems like it's just me so far. Now you guys think we created a lot of horror cruxes. For the good. The creative role. You just passed them around everywhere. And Jordan, look at this distribution thing. Jordan Swiers is creatively in charge of animation. And then Barbara Duncanman, creatively in charge of core and comedy. Correct. And then Trevor fills that like that role in Achievement Hunter.

And then I guess Omar and those guys, I don't know how they work. Fun house. I assume they work. Omar is like the managing. Yeah. They had videos come out today, so they work in fun house. I assume they work. Omar's like the managing R.T. where they had videos come out today, so they're still around. They're still plucking away. I watched their kernel Sanders videos very funny.

But yeah, I'm gonna get back to what I was doing when I started this whole thing was, you know, was wanted to make narrative shows. And I know a lot of people think of us as primarily personality driven content because we've been doing that primarily for like the last 10 years, especially the last 10 years I've been on this podcast,

but it's not really what we started doing. Even like the first six, seven years of this company, we didn't do anything but narrative projects. And then the personality stuff kind of hit all at once. What's your bottom camera? It was that record. Now we recorded that couch in the back of the Congress office where we'd edit red versus blue.

That's where we recorded the first podcast. That jammed ass room. It's where the first I'll we was if you want to go back and look at that We did Yeah, a couple of shorts were in that room as well. Yep, the the world cup one The first we put out Shana yeah Yeah Yeah, yeah. Hmm. Well, that's it.

I'll be doing. So I'm going to get back and be writing some projects, which means that will not be really appearing in stuff. I won't be on the podcast anymore. There's always this debate too of like, and someone makes a change like this. It's always very easy to say things like, oh, be back. And I'm just going to be around. I'm definitely not saying that.

No, it's just, I'm definitely not. It's, I want to focus on that. And I've tried a couple different times to try to ref around. I'm definitely not saying that. I'm definitely not. I want to focus on that. And I've tried a couple different times to try to refocus while still maintaining some of my other responsibilities. But the scale of which everything grows is like it's just those other responsibilities no matter how much you try to diminish them or distribute them. Just having being in that mix, it's like the scale just catches up with you. And you end up spending the same amount of time. Well, I think it's gonna be great because when you have focused time to knock some stuff out, man, you do great work, and you make hits.

And I think, I'm super, just as a fan, I'm excited to see you, what the next thing you're gonna make. Thanks. As a hit, I think it's gonna be awesome. And I've seen you try to juggle all this stuff for the last, I don't know, decade, 17 years, whatever it is. And you've done a great job kind of trying to manage both,

but I can't wait to see the next Red versus Blue or Immersion or another movie or whatever you think that's gonna be awesome. I'm excited about that as the fan, it really am. And we're all, I think, really excited about getting casted at it. Thank you in advance. I'm actually all excited about not being a camera with me anymore.

No, I love being on camera with you guys. That's my biggest lament of the success of Rucity that's just like, it required us to kind of run off and run different parts of the company and we didn't get to do this stuff as much You know in the later years. Yeah, you mean just from the natural scale of it And then people would be sick of us anyway. I mean, that's the thing too It's like I really sick of us I tell us all the time

But I look at just you know the way there's personality driven content and there's like narrative driven content And we've got like we're kind of living in two worlds with a bunch of different people and a lot of people are living trying to live in two worlds And it's just like near the two-shell meat, you know, honestly, and it's just it's we got kind of living in two worlds with a bunch of different people, and a lot of people are living, trying to live in two worlds, and it's just like, near the two-shell meat, you know, honestly. And we've got to recognize there's two different audiences, and the structure of the company now, I think it's been, can put out there in official press releases and stuff like that,

but it's RT Direct, which Jeff, you'll be over, essentially, all of RT Direct. Yeah. And then RT Studios is where I'll be working in a non-management capacity. Can't be, you know, non-town, non-management. Can't be any clearer about that. Non-management capacity. Working Rt Studios and the matter will be over all of Rt Studios. And like that'll be things that we make that, you know, the direct audience quite frankly is not really interested in, you know, or says they're not interested in. Well, and stuff like we should be just totally

upfront that is probably not destined for our platform. Probably not. And I think that's, says they're not interested in? Well, and stuff like we should be just totally upfront that is probably not destined for our platform. Probably not. And I think that's a good thing. We wanna make sure that we have as much great content on our site as we possibly can and doing what we do. And I think Jeff's gonna do a fantastic job of that. But there's also a lot of other things

that we wanna do that aren't sometimes just aren't, right't quite fit and we have to find partners and we have to find other ways to get a maid. And that's money. Yeah. I mean always think you know, oh boy. There's anything left in here besides a. Might be a school. It's a living there. But yeah, I know I think that's a that's that's okay. You know, I mean like the key is just we all got to be focused

about what we're doing. Yeah. Yeah, and if you think back to when we started Roosh-Teeeth, it really was the coming together of two groups of friends, right, the guys that made movies together and the idiots on the internet. Yeah. And that's kind of where we are now.

You guys are doing the bigger, we're gonna be focusing on the bigger, I'd say bigger, but sure. I think grander and scale than a let's play, you know? Yeah, but it's a frequency thing too. Like if you add up like, you know, Minecraft, you know, and you guys do it every single week or GTA or whatever,

it's like you do hours and hours of content about 12, 12 hours of edited content a week as the streamer does. A 90 minute movie every two years is like, you know. Anyway, let's just say, just I don't know what the bigger is the right word, but yeah. Yeah, sure, different, different.

Yeah. Narrative versus non-narrative, I guess. Yeah, I think that's the big line of demarcation, really. You know, and it's like, and I think, I hopefully the audience who like definitely wants us to keep doing the daily content and the direct content that they like so much, hopefully they're gonna see this as a huge positive. It's like, yeah, you're gonna lose a couple people from the daily content and the direct content that they like so much. Hopefully they're gonna see this as a huge positive.

It's like, yeah, you're gonna lose a couple people from that daily content like me. Sorry, you're gonna miss me so much. But it's important to focus on it, you know what I mean? So people won't be getting pulled away in their opinions, getting pulled away, distracted by these other projects, you know. They'll still be some of that,

but hopefully they'll understand this is a focusing on what's working. So it's basically two different sides of the company. And we were doing all the re-orged stuff. There'll still be some of that, but hopefully they'll understand that this is a focusing on what's working. So it's basically two different sides of the company. And we were doing all the reorg stuff. It's like, basically everyone had to be asked, like, what's your strength? And what do you do? And for me in particular, I had to be objective.

It's like, there's things I like doing, you know, and there's things that I'm good at, which sometimes those two things don't exactly overlap, you know, perfectly as much as you'd like. But if I looked at the last year or five, maybe five years that I've looked back, the thing I've done really well in this company has made shows that can find a life on another platform as well. So RVB went to Netflix, went to TV, laser team and laser team to were paid for by Google and went on Google. Million dollars

but went to Facebook for a while. Million dollars about the card game did retail and then, you know, immersion was picked up by discovery. So it's like, those are the things like, that's what I've been doing the last five years, you know, amongst all these other things, but that's where I've been making the biggest impact. So it just makes sense that I would lean more into that, you know, and do that kind of stuff.

And I like it. I like it. I like doing that stuff. Well, that's the thing. Is at the end of the day, you've got to be creatively challenged, right? Yes. We really do. And it's like, there at the end of the day, you've got to be creatively challenged, right? Yes. We really do.

And it's like, there's nothing worse as a creator or a creative person than to get into a rut, you know. Treadmill. I heard recently Treadmill, and I get it, because that's a good analogy to me, because a Treadmill, you can do a ton of work on a Treadmill and you get off in your exact same place. Yeah, you know?

And that's, you can feel that way when you do anything long enough and 10 years fucking 10 years long time to a podcast. It's a long time. A lot of how many episodes we have. 11 I think this is 564. Yeah, 564. Yeah, like Eric's been here for like what 10 episodes and already he's. We want to we have people were asking in chat if we're going to still keep doing Gavin or Google after you leave. Sure. I mean, yeah, do it, knock it out. I wasn't asking for your permission. I told him, yeah, we were. I don't know.

I don't know why he did it, say yes. We have a bunch of games, and other segments that we want to do. Good luck. I will say, Gus, I no longer on off topic very often. I would love to be on this every once in a while. You know what, you want to play Gavin or Google? Yeah, I'd love to. Will you be on this? Will you like show up more on this show? I would love to be on this every once in a while. You know, we all play Javner Google Yeah, I'd love to will you be on this will you like show up more on this show?

I would have you on the spot guys all you guys have to do is ask me to run after me Eric Okay, I Mean I don't know that I can commit to being on it every week But I can commit to being on it as much if not more than off topic Eric. I'm sitting right fucking here, dude For like a minute. I'm looking at tail lights brother. You're gone dude. And you're not for that. Like, for like a minute. Like a tail lights brother, you're gone. Dude, I tell you, it's like a, you know, tail lights, and you're like, Tinder while she's walking out the fucking door. What are you supposed to do?

We've heard a walk all the way out the door. I'm like, fuck you, go watch wrestling, motherfucker. This episode of Receive Podcast is brought to you by Magic the Gathering. Their new card set, Throne of Eldrain, is out now. They asked us to write our own take on some of these fairy tales, and we're gonna read those for you right now. We have not read this yet.

So let's get started. Narrator. Go narrator. Much better. One's upon a time at the edge of a dark forest. Do you wanna read the title? Oh, do I do any that? Here we go.

Sunny locks and the three bears. Hmm, very interesting. Written by Andrew Roses. One's upon a time at the edge of a dark forest. The honey locks and the three bears. Hmm, very interesting. Written by Andrew Roses. Once upon a time at the edge of a dark forest, there lived a, can I just take it from there? I didn't even say anything. Mess the first word up.

Keep going. There lived a quiet young girl, Sunny locks. Because of the horrors she'd seen in battle, she took to wandering the forest to clear her head and quiet the screams of her family that died in the great porous wars of the previous winter. The girl was a hunter. Her family's old cottage which was once bubbling with life and happiness was now festooned with her animal trophies in

what looked like a grim shrine to death itself. One morning she ran farther into the woods than she's one morning. It's harder than it looks. One morning she ran farther into the woods than she'd ever had before. Out of breath she collapsed in a m mozi patch near a rivulet. Revealay. He-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he-he- but something was a miss. There are no birds or a stir of winds. As she sharpened her senses to the verdant cathedral surrounding her,

another sound cut in the din of the rivulet play. A distant familiar sound out of the corners of her memory, laughter, but not the laughter of people. It was the primal gutter or laughter. It was the primal gutterer laughter. It was a primal gutterer laughter. The cock. One from, don't laugh at me. One from deep in time when the new gods

stood on the bones of the old and reveled in their victory. I'm about to get just listening to this going, Rivulay! Rivulay! As the sound of laughter became more present and lost the eerie reverberations of the cavernous forest, she saw a stone house. No one has lived in these woods for hundreds of years. She thought to herself and crept up to a window of the dwelling.

What is better than the flesh of peasants? More papa! Of course little one. Sunilocks unsheathed her sword and delicately used the reflection in the blade to see inside the crumbling structure. Her breath turned cold as the figures in the window, in the weapon, that window. In the weapon became clear. Bears. A family of bears sat around a snow-bitten oak table feasting on the viscera of what used

to be a man. The littlest bear began to thrash at the mangled shin of their fresh kill. Here, let me help you! The largest bear began stripping the flesh off the bone and massorating the meat in a wooden bowl. The soping wet innards turned to a thick porridge that wafted the smell of iron out the window and stung Sonny locks his nostrils Her eyes glassed and she remembered the sanguine terror of the previous wicker

She instinctively touched the dagger in her boot, but this one She but yes, but his was too small this one was too small. Sorry his one was to this one was too small She admired she admired the broadsword in her hand. Yeah, love already. Sorry. She admired the broadsword in her hand, but in the confines of the house would be too unwiddly, too big. Her frost-chaped hand then drifted down to the battle-axe fastened to her right side. This one was just right. From her fire-starting pow, she drew a sack of black powder, when with a flick of her wrist she sent it through the window into the dim hearth in the center of the rooms. The stone cottage filled with light and the smoke-shocked roars of the Ersean creatures.

Cool. Sonnylox stood at the wall of the front door and lifted the axe above her head. Follow me, run into the forest! The largest bear's head had just cleared the threshold when Sonnylox brought down her axe with devastating force. The blade cleaved a trench of fat and blood, matted hair behind the bear's ears that is dripped in the doorway with a disgusting thud. FATHER! The bear's massive body now block the only exit as the mother and cub tore it as backside in their frenzy to escape.

Sunny locks then crept into a tiny window, just that just afforded her leaf frame. What do you, mother? Stay behind me, we are under attack. Out of the smoke, Sunny locks broadsword appeared in the air like a javelin. It dinted in the faint light of the bear's providence, outside before slicing deep into the shoulder of the mother bear.

Sunny locks silhouette materialized in the haze as the mother bear reared up on her hind legs, poised to bring down a nightmarish end to the girl. Sunnylock's fell backwards onto a hard bed as the mother's bear's mass came down on top of her. With her dagger braced at her side, the sheer weight of the animal drove the blade deep into its core. The final labored breath of the beast swirled, a cleared, in the swirled, a clearing in the smoke for a moment, and then faded away with the light in its eyes. Sunny locks rose to her feet.

The beast blood was streaming down her body as she felt warm for the first time since venturing into these woods. Please, please, just let me go! Sunny locks wiped the handle of her axe on the mother's bear's fur before returning it to its purchase in her right hand. The floor creaked as she stepped toward the cub, huddled in the corner. Oh my god. This is wrong. Sweeties call Andrew. It was dark when Sunny locks were turned to her home. She lit a humble fire

in the stone circle in the center of the dwelling and mounted the three bare heads to the wall near the dinner table. As she sat in the soft glow and ate her supper, even the fresh pelts draped on her shoulders didn't warm her. She looked across the table into the glass black eyes of her neutrophies and sighed. She thought about the next morning and going deeper into the woods. After all, she was a hunter. The end. Wow. The ruin of Eldrain is the brand new Magic The Gathering card set that matched it together. Camelot and Grips Fairy Tales.

You can play now with cards like these. Right now, I'm Magic Arena. Download a free on PC today at MTG Arena.com. That was intense. Did he put the script through a like a... Violin spot. At the Soros or something. Yeah.

Yeah, kind of confirmed. It's good. Thanks Adam. Thank you. Do you see the big thing that's going around about, you know, Jeff, you did a really awesome cool talk on off topic like right after we did layoffs. I don't think it was a cool talk at all.

It was a very necessary talk, I felt like, and I appreciated that you did it. Oh yeah. Of course, the audience is portion of the audience. I would warn you that a place where I am right now is I don't like to emotionally engage with people that I don't know and that I'm not gonna meet. And there is that portion of the audience, it's like,

okay, Jeff has said something, who's gonna say something next? Like this is not, they're like in the rhythm now of like, then now the next person has to emotionally engage you. That kind of thing. And this wrestler, Eric who is this wrestler, Al's show, what is his name? His name is Al Snow. Al Snow.

That was fascinating. He's former WWE F guy, he's an independent worker and he's a trainer, smart guy. Good mind. Yeah, he did a whole talk about, I was thinking the video that was going around over the weekend. Yeah, it's toxic fandoms, but at the same time, it's like even that word, it's like,

that's the word we're using now. We talked about this stuff for, I feel like a decade. Even when it wasn't involving us, I talk about mob mentality and how mob mentality is just like such a scary thing. Even when I watched, when I said to Matt was, even when someone I don't like,

or someone I've dealt with before, and it's like I don't like them, when I watch the mob get hold of them, I said it feels like being in a zombie movie, where it's like the enemy gets attacked by zombies, you're like, I don't like that. There's still a human, and it's like, there's something about that mob in telewind,

people just get going, and they start to hammer on people. And it's just like, it's just, you wonder when it's gonna be enough. I thought it was, I thought it was like such a brilliant distillation of that issue. He broke it down in very clear terms. I wonder if it feels that way because I'm on one side of that, or one side of that situation. I wonder if I, as a content creator, I look at and I go, well, that's really a salient way to put that together.

Well, what do you say? Just review on the scene. Just if you. God, he said that, he said that there's a sort of, like consistency breeds contempt. He said, yeah. For familiarity, for familiarity breeds contempt. And he said that information is not knowledge.

Correct. Information and is not knowledge. Correct. Information and experience create knowledge. Having an opinion is the lowest form of thought. Having an opinion is the lowest form of thought or discourse or whatever. Yeah. And he just talked about how people

assume have access to information and then assume that the information they have is knowledge. And it's like, but they don't have the experience to understand why things are done the way they are. And a lot of people, because a lot of people want to defend their ability to make those kinds of comments, a lot of people commenting, I'm saying, well, he's saying I have to be a wrestler

in order to criticize wrestling. I don't have to be a chef to say I don't like something, that I don't like the way something tastes. I don't think that's what he's saying. Oh, this is saying you have to have some kind of experience. There's a lot of people who have information and have not just no experience in wrestling, they just don't have experience.

They just like, they have none. All they have is the information. And we've, I mean, we've dealt with stuff like this before where people tell us you're basing your decisions on unsubstantiated claims online and information. And you're doing this and you're doing that. It's like, no, we have personal experience that we use to make our decisions.

We have personal multiple years of experience that we use to do it. And they're saying, no, you're doing these accounts. Like, look at this account. This was unsubstantiated and this other thing. It's like, that's not us, that's you. That's literally you. You're the person who doesn't have anything

but the accounts they read online because you have no personal experience. And then you're telling us people with personal experience that we don't have that. And that we're basing our decisions and something that's crazy to me. So that's the crazy. The thing that was really interesting

about it too is his tone. Because you know, you could tell that he had this resigned kind of looked to him like, I've had this argument so many times in so many different ways with people in this subject and I'm just not having it anymore. I've analyzed it, I've been through the whole thing and I know what they're gonna say before they say it

because they always say the same thing because I'd say I wanna be right and tear stuff down kind of mentality, not a constructive kind of mentality and it felt very much like he was still upset about it But also had figured out there's no point in arguing with this group of people I thought was really really well thought out. Yeah really well He's very concise and very well thought out. He did say one thing at the end to them

I think a lot of people gloss over. Yeah, with the thing at the end was he said that you know He was talking a lot about toxic fandom But then he talked about the impact of the people that he works with in dealing with that. That was when he came around to me and they said, and there's people that I work with writers and managers and talent who live in their own bubble with this is their whole world and all they do is read this stuff,

and they make decisions based on that. And that is the thing, and that's the kind of thing I think when you're a creator or working a group like we have, you gotta be careful that you're not making decisions based on that stuff. You just can't do it. It's really hard. You get to follow kind of your own through North, you know? And those voices get louder.

As you do that, they definitely get louder. As you could try to stay the course in your own way or what you think is the best course at that time. That's right. But yeah, otherwise you just like, you just dart back and forth, right? You know, to people's public opinion when they don't really have the full picture of what's going on. Yeah. Yeah.

Or as Jeff said, I think some, like a listening to your talk that you had, and because you didn't tell anybody you were gonna do that. I told them that. Oh, you told them that. Well, I asked Matt what his opinion was, because that was like, I mean, basically what I was talking was talking about,

I had to go out and we had to give a production a day after we went through that riff and that was a terrible, this is just a catastrophic event for all of us, and how just the decision-making process of, I was just talking about that, we're kind of damned if we do damned, if we don't like, what do we do with the best course of action, I asked Matt and we talked about a little bit and then he was like, I trust you'll do, you'll make the right decision and then I said, I'll figure it out. And then I figured it out in the car

on the way to work that day. Yeah. I was like, a lot of times you get into one of those things and you just feel it in the moment. Yeah. You know, you know, it's right. And then, you know, I know the one of the things I said to people here is like, you know,

it's so much easier to be cynical than it is to create. We could spend a lot of time just not just us, but in any walk of life, just being so caught up in the cynicism, but that doesn't help anybody. That doesn't inspire anybody and that doesn't make anybody get up and go do what they need to do and face the day. And you gotta find what's real and what's true about your own art and your own experience for you. Do you think that a cynical mentality is a function of age? Because I feel like when I was younger, I was way more cynical.

I'm less cynical now, but there's a stereotype that when you're old, you're super cynical. So is it like an inverted bell curve of some kind? I think so, I think you're super old. It's awesome. Yeah, it's a big part of my decision when I was a devising decision of what do I want to do. I was gonna say it's like taste buds as a kid. When you eat something and you're like,

oh my god, this is over the top, like mustard or something, but then later in life, it doesn't seem as bad. It's because your taste buds are wearing down, and you're just getting kind of like, kind of numb to it, to be honest with you. The situation that I ran into that I was really concerned about, and me making a change of not doing the podcast and being less on camera is something that's been,

Gus, how long have I been talking to you about this? What is it like two or three years? Yeah, it's been a long time. It's been a while. Like I even said at the beginning of 2019, I said to Gus, I'm gonna get as far into 2019 as I can. And it was gonna be the 500th podcast.

It was then gonna be the 10 year podcast, which was in May. Like we kept talking about all that stuff. I didn't believe you. I never believed you. You've been talking about it so long. I was like, it's just never gonna happen. Well, it was also, I also had this rule.

It's like, I want to try to get away like two months out from any social media crisis. I want to get two months away from that. So it doesn't seem like it's a reaction to anything. And it's just like, but you can't because it's not always something. That being said, it's like we've had some stuff this year

that's like, I don't want to like lump into like social media crisis. We've had some real serious issues this year that I'm like anything we've had in the past. But I've been talking for a long time, what really kind of led me to this path was, and this more so came about during the vlog was, I used to read all the comments voraciously, you try to cherry pick like, what was the valuable information, what was my take away?

I still do. You had to do that stuff. And then I had to tell myself, well, just ignore the negative stuff, which is what people say. Oh, it's only like 10% of the people or whatever. It's a very small minority. So just ignore them, you know, just ignore those people. And so then you start to do that

and then you get, I got into a position where it's like, if the bad comments don't matter, why did the good comments matter? And then, and then if those two things, if it just doesn't matter, then why am I sitting in this chair? Why am I sitting out of it? Yeah, what am I, what am I, it's like,

they need an audience deserves to have somebody in this chair who cares about the comments one way or the other. They really do. And I think Jeff, I think you're definitely in a place where you're very locked in. You have a, like your finger on the pulse, you understand what people on the internet want.

So I think it's like perfect move. Yeah, I think, thank you. I do, I feel like I'm hitting some sort of a stride at this point in my life. And maybe it's getting sober or reclaiming some energy or well, but I feel like I'm like firing on all cylinders this last two years Yeah, and I'm like I'm gumbo to take on the next challenge, you know, and to keep doing the next thing

It's funny cuz I keep saying there's like There's no senior circuit for Web influencers You know, I keep saying that about myself, but I don't want to apply that to you guys So they feel like you guys are like in a different place that even though we're kind of similar in age, you know? I remember when you were getting closer. Pin that on you, but. It's two years older than me.

But it's just how I consider myself. And one of the things that kept coming up during the vlog was this comment of relatability, like I wasn't relatable. And I, first I was like, oh shit, oh shit. I'm not, these things aren't relatable. I get like, I have to like, dumb down what I'm doing in the vlog

or like hide some stuff and upfiscate some of the things I was doing. But then after a while I was like, should I be relatable? Should I say, I've had two careers at this point. I'm 40, when I'm in 46? I'm in 46. 46, 46 years old.

It's like maybe relatable isn't like, maybe that's not a thing I should strive for, it's relatability, you know? And maybe that's not necessarily a bad thing, it's a normal progression to not be relatable. I mean, it's totally acceptable. And I've said this before on the podcast, we are in our fall in our 40s,

46, 44, 45, 46. And you have to keep saying 46. What's in here? 41, as previously mentioned, you're average. Just say that. Well, we're closer to our audience. We're closer in age to a lot of our audiences' parents than to the audience.

And that is what it is, you know? Like a lot of people have, like I'll get on it, I'll do those talks, I can do it on a topic, how about other stuff, dick pills or whatever. And people are like, Jeff, some people, well, what constantly say, like, Jeff's talking down to me, like he's a parent, he's not my dad, but I, well, first off,

when RISC started, everybody wanted to be our, like, people would show up and be like, oh, I just wanna buy you a drink, I wanna be your friends. Now, where we are, people come up and they're like, oh, you're, you seem like a really cool dad, I wish you were my dad, like, people want me to be their dad now, And I do feel parental. They don't have to call me out like that.

I'm not sitting right here. They can't be one of those. Can we hear this? By the way, because every time we drink these voodoo ranges, we get in trouble. Can we do this? I do feel kind of parental to the audience. And I'm okay with that.

Where? You know, I got a kid who is the age of who is the kid face. And I. Are you guys have this experience now with your kids at school that they hear the other kids talking about? Rochita Sheath,

and then they like, try to avoid the conversation. Yes, Millie does not like it when people talk about her of, or people know who she is, because she's been on. Well, like my kids,

nobody knows who they are. And we all prefer to keep it that way. Yeah, yeah. But then they're at school, and one of their friends will be talking about, like, Ristratheath and this and that, and like, they shouldn't have done this and they should have done this and that, and that,

and they just have to sit there and kind of grin and bear it. Yeah. Which is like, I feel bad, because that's a bad position for them to have to be in like nobody wants to have to To deal with them to deal with that. I don't want them to feel like they have to defend me Yeah, at school. It should be the other way around, you know Actually George Luke's kids are look just have kids. Yeah, I'm fucking insane Yeah, if they went his kids went to school and they were all the other kids were complaining about mid-chlorians

Yeah, you know, I mean that would be ridiculous Elon Musk kids. Every time I see an Elon Musk tweets, click on it and read the comments. It's crazy. Here's the spaceship that I'm designing to hopefully send humanity to Mars and give us a multi-planet existence

so we can preserve human consciousness. And like two or three tweets, the top two or three ones are like, you're fucking stock is gonna tank. And that was it. It's like, why? Why? Just don't, don't, what's the point?

Or you call that guy a pedophile, we have two years to go. I don't know what I'm gonna do. You've pretty fucked up thing. Yeah, that's all. How does that relate to years later to the Mars thing? It's just like, it never goes away. That's what I'm saying.

That's kind of stuff never goes away. So it's just one of the leader tweets. When I was a kid, the close thing I had to that was like I was trying to avoid some shit, my parents were responsible for when I was a kid, the close thing I had to that was like I was trying to avoid some shit my parents were responsible for when I was at school, my father was in law enforcement and he once ticketed and arrested our vice principal at middle school. Yeah, that's awesome.

I was like, I just don't want to have to deal with this. You know, it's a small task, like everybody knew it, I was like, I was just like, I was gonna keep my head down there. The vice principal had a kid who was my age in the migraines at the same school. I was like, I just, I burd all. Just don't wanna be here.

And it's like, and Jeff, you were saying before this, it's like our kids just, they're the only kids in the world that think Rishu teeth is on a cool site. I would say that, like, Millie, I had to give it the option of going home to do her homework or doing it here and she's like, home before I could get it out. She like, Millie wants nothing less than to hang out at Ruchete.

And I was saying that for our kids, they're probably the only kids on Earth that Ruchete is the most boring place. Well, it's because it's your parents. Yeah, right? Well, yeah, you don't want to hear about your parents in any regard in school. I don't.

You just don't want your parents to be notable. I don't envy them at all. I can't imagine what that's like. When I was a kid, I didn't even have like, what, your experience, I had no idea what my mom and dad did for a little. You know, I knew my mom them at all. I can't imagine what that's like. When I was a kid, I didn't even have like, what your experience, I had no idea what my mom and dad did for a little, you know, I knew my mom worked in banks. She had something with banks.

I didn't give a fuck, you know. My parents were teachers at my high school. That was tough. Yeah, and so I just, that's right. I was never intersected for me. My dad was a well-liked teacher, and my mom didn't have,

she taught English as a second language. So not a lot of the kids in my group, you know, had, ever had the opportunity to have my mom as a teacher.. So not a lot of the kids in my group, you know, had ever had the opportunity to have my mom as a teacher. Yeah, my mom as a teacher. And we purposely avoided me going to the same school. She was what she was teaching. I was in my mom's class.

You guys all had parents. Yeah, my mom was a teacher. But she always went to, she was always teaching in schools where my sister was. My sister was four years younger. So I was like, when I was in middle school, she was teaching elementary where my sister was, and I was four years younger. So I was like, when I was in middle school, she was teaching elementary where my sister was, and I moved to high school, my mother moved to middle school.

How is Lady Einstein doing? Your sister, I mean. What's her name? That's what I thought a lady Einstein. She's awesome. I feel like there's sarcastic nickname. I get the feeling. I like a sister.

Yeah, she's fine. No, but it's a real thing. I don't even like, honestly, don't even like talking about it just because I don't want to like speak on the kids' behalf in any way. No. You know what I mean? It's like one of those weird things like even mentioning. One thing I've always been happy about is that Teddy loves this podcast.

He was going to come here today because he didn't want me to the last one, but his mom's birthday today, so he's got to do some stuff with her. He loves being in the RTA, which I've always been very appreciative of because like sometimes the story is tell a mother silly and call him a little fucker and stuff like that. Yeah. He's always loved that and loves being part in the RTAs, which I've always been very appreciative of because like sometimes the story is tell a Modern silly and calm little fucker and stuff like that Yeah, he's always loved that and loves being part of the RTA Well Teddy if you want to take over your dad's seat to see Melly No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, one of the rare houses in the world getting less rare, where if you want to go into eSports and train to do this, I will figure out a way to help you do this. Like, I see this as a very viable career.

Matt knows, he's like playing with his kid online all the time. That's child labor. It is. A little bit, a little bit child labor. You know, so every night go up there and they're playing League of Legends. League of still, it's pretty easy. It's still a crazy game. I don't know how he got into it.

I was figured like, is that that being a game with the declining population? That was too. No, every game should eventually decline to nothing. Yeah, but League in Dota, I feel like it's just as big as ever. And it's just worlds that I don't ever intersect. And we don't do... I don't think I've ever played a single game of League. I think I played Dota once or twice.

I've never played Dota. I've done like two lets play. I even asked Teddy about Dota since he played League of Legends I thought how'd you reach this conclusion to play this game? Did you play Dota he goes? I would play Dota like he already had like this Line the sand of just like It's a league man. He was game is playing siege for a long time was really good at it I was trying to do that but yeah, what happened there? They were all under that for a long time was really good at it. I was like, I'm gonna do that. But, uh. Yeah, what happened there? They were all into that for a long time and then they made a hard switch to league.

I'm gonna take Teddy to the finals for we're gonna watch the league finals, which are in early November. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was finally, because this one is gonna be excited about it, you know what I mean? Yeah, I just say that kids have to rebel against our parents too. Like, what a similar thing where Millie was so into Overwatch

and was really quite good. And, uh, I remember, I thought to I was like, do you, like with a similar thing where Millie was so into Overwatch and was really quite good. And I remember, I thought to her, I was like, do you, is this something you wanna pursue? Is this a career you wanna pursue? I could get you a trainer, and the second I did that, she stopped playing. She was like, eh. Yeah, I think the worst thing in my life

is that I know all the memes. Yeah, you know, that's, that makes like so fucking disappointing on a regular basis. They have no secret conversation, no language it can use. Or just, you know, it's just like, you know, parents don't, parents aren't cool. You should just use old memes around them, like invisible sandwich and like,

Oh, Brian, I'm a little shy. I'm a baby. I just send them to the, send those to them all the time. They call them the animal. They call them the animal. The animal's, the animal's, what were they called? Law cats? No, they had a name before.

They were a name before. They were a memes. They were called something. Law cats. No, they had like business cat and everything. Law cats. No, they had a name. The motion. Before there were memes, they were called something. Low cats. No, they had like business cat and everything. It was a low cat. Listen to me. Unlike within the days of like day, no animals. What was it called? Somebody's got to be saying advising animals. Advising animals. That's it.

Advising animals. That's what they're called. Fuck you. And rage comics. Low cats. Yeah, low cats were called law cats and dancing babies. Oh, so the so Eric just sent me some stuff the legal legends world championship prize pool this past year was about $6.4 million. Whoa the Dota 2 international prize pool is 34 million dollars. Yeah, whoa We're a game. I don't know that I've ever seen Dota like I know the name. I can't think of the logo I don't know that I've ever seen the actual game. It's like the OG though, right? It was a community thing.

It was a community thing that came out of Warcraft and then was bought by Valve. Yes. And turned into a separate game. That's kind of a fascinating path. I believe it was a branch off of Warcraft 3, I would say. It was just fascinating to me because it's like, that's a miss by Blizzard, right?

It's probably wasn't something they were into at the time. Yeah, and you're right, eventually later they try to do, here's the storm. Yeah. Which I think they, they sunset it? Did they? I played it, it was fun. I don't know, I don't know.

That's the mobile I played the most was here as a threat. I just listen, listen, Microsoft had Gryffball. I think I probably played Smite the most. They let somebody else make Rocket League. They had Gryffball in the right time. They had it, Microsoft had They had it. They're. I hope Microsoft will be okay.

I want to make it. You blow it. So yeah, they're slowing down. Here's a storm development. They said the shutting down the global championship 2019 Esports season. And they're just scaling it down. It seems like they're refocusing on other things that are working better. But Teddy was like playing counter strength for a while, which is.

So you and that's apparently a whole still massive community behind that. We showed that, just go. Yeah, that's that graph of usage, and it was CSGO was right at the top behind something until PUBG showed up. Oh, then PUBG to everything.

By the way, going back to the discussion about like creative ideas or whatever, I had to point out to the guys of like you, they were like, can we do anything about this? It's like, can we do anything about it? Did you not see when Fortnite just basically they made an announcement video that said, Hey, we really like PUBG a lot. So we're going to make our own Battle Royale genre game.

And then they made it and made what hundreds of things. They changed the game that had just come out and they added it. Yeah, they added the mode because it's a mode. It's like mode is like genre. It's not Fortnite. It's Fortnite Battle Royale. Right. It's a mode, right?

Yeah. So it's like once, because you can't do that. And it's like, if there's, you can't copyright an idea. That's the, what they always say. It's all about the execution. If the execution's too similar, then you can say, yeah, but the idea they can just take it. What was the game that pubg iterated on?

For the kill? Yeah, King of the kill. What was that same team though? It was the same team same guy. Yeah, player known He just took it made it somewhere else, but that other game and then they tried to rebound for a while We did some less plays and I can't think of it. It's king of the kill, but H1Z1 H1Z1. Thank you. Yeah, H1Z1. Yeah, I had armor stuck At the end of the day, I was thinking oh, it's a thing they're all called battle royale for a reason Yeah, they're armor stuck at the end of the day. I was thinking, oh, I was thinking of this. They're all called Battle Royale for a reason. Yeah.

They're inspired by... Battle Royale. Battle Royale. For anyone point out, it's like, who would have thought that that movie would be one of the most influential films of our generation? Yeah, no kidding. It really is.

Yeah. It really is. The influence that that movie has had. The head of a long incubation, too, was like a huge cult hit. Everyone knew about it. And then just all of a sudden, it's like, oh, it's gonna make Battle Royale games.

Let's make that a thing. You know, I watched it for the first time like six months ago I showed you that fucking movie when we lived together watch it together. We absolutely watch a lot of movies get a Rendered and full-con video I fucking showed you the DVD of Balorayl You know show me the cover of it. We never watched it you're breaking his heart. You are brave This is a lot I watch a lot of stuff with you, but we never watched we cried I'd never I've never seen that. I've still never seen each of you the killer. That's another one in there.

You ever seen that, what's the Korean movie with sewer monster? The host? The host? Never seen the host. Yeah. They're named the Alamo South Lamar. I was just about to say that.

Bong Joon Ho, theater. After the guy's director. What's that movie about? The host, the new one. The new one? The new one? The trailer? I can't figure out that trailer.

It's very vague and what I've heard is don't try to figure out what the movie's about go in with this little information. I've heard that about I feel like the opening with the What am I trying to say the the smoke when they're Getting rid of all the bugs or whatever the Humigating thank you. There's got something to it, 420. There's got something to do with what the movie is about, but that was a confusing ass trailer. I'm excited to see it. It comes out October 11th.

I don't watch trailers anymore. I just saw it today. If you're in a theater, you see them though. Yeah, I close this up. I still go to a lot. I don't watch them online. You guys are massive. I watched, how do you guys see the trailer

for the King's Man? I didn't even know they were making that. Oh, yeah. Those are for its prequel. Not good. Making new Matrix movie. Yeah. You were making that. Oh, yeah. Those are four. It's a prequel. Not good. Making a Matrix movie. Yeah. Excuse me.

Did you see that? Yeah, they're making a good... They specifically didn't say Lawrence Fishburn. It's Cariann Moss and Kanna Reeves are making a new Matrix movie. Yep. Hmm. You know, I was worked on the Matrix. Yeah, I do.

That was, uh, I had a boss when I did visual effects who turned down two jobs for us that I still can't get over. One was the Matrix, but it was before Will Smith, or no, it was when it was Will Smith instead of Canterreeves. Yeah. And the other one was Lord of the Rings. And the answer, the reason he turned on about to them was, I don't want to go all that way. Yeah.

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Listen, I mean, there's a fair reason to not wanna do it. Not when you're 22. What were you gonna say about Belirel? But he wasn't. True. You said you just watched it for the first time, six months ago. Jeff and I watched it together like 10 years ago.

We held hands. I just enjoyed it. I haven't seen the sequel. That was a sequel too. I never saw it. Yeah. Do you see that trailer? I know Bernie wouldn't have because he doesn't watch trailers, but do you see the trailer for El Camino? Yes It's out like in any day, right?

The next week or the week after When's Joker come It's like this week. Yeah Friday. We're all paranoid about that and the It's a just like this week. Yeah, Friday. We're all paranoid about that. And the, we're gonna buy in-cell violence. Kingsman audience is a, is a prequel to the Kingsman. Yeah, it's got, not exy.

It's got a, paladin, what's what? Right behind the, right behind the, right behind the, he's like, he's a snake. No, he wouldn't snake. He's like, he played Dumbledore. Dumbledore, thank you. Baltimore, Thank you. Baltimore. Baltimore. Thank you.

I heard that. It's in Britain. One of those names. That's all the same. Yeah, that part. And Shinler's list, which is still the scariest. She's the old. I've ever seen.

He wanted to cut me a word for that, right? I want to say, yeah, I believe you did. There's that mirror scene that he's gotten that move. You're one of the most terrifying things ever. Just like he's just, just he plays a psychotic so well. That was adorable. What was that sci-fi movie he was in that was so good. I do. I love got a car. No, I love when like big names.

I'm like low budget sci-fi. I love that. Like, Densa Washington does a bunch of like random like low budget sci-fi. You can even count count like his book of Eli and that. I just watched looper the other day with Bruce Willis. It's just like, I love that stuff. Who's your actor or actress that if you see them in a movie, it doesn't matter what it is you'll watch. Charlie's there on.

Charlie's there on. Yeah, we're fine. So it's not gonna be, but not within that account. Oh, what a bummer. That's a rip off. For me, it's Denzel Washington. Like I know that if I, any Denzel Washington movie is gonna have,

it's gonna be of a level of quality that I can enjoy and just getting to watch Densal Washington's a treat. And if I'm being totally honest, Tom Cruise, I'll go watch Tom Cruise and I think he doesn't make bad movies. He made that bad movies. If I'm not, he's running, you know, you're set.

Yeah. That lived out repeat, that's like a good example of. That's fantastic. It's such a fantastic movie. And it's the Swinger's Guide to That. Yeah. Doug Lime, yeah. Yeah, I was someone who'd say the born identity guy.

He would also have other stuff. I mean, maybe he did a few things like between Swinger's fingers. Well, Ray Fines lost the Tommy Lee Jones that year. Well, for the fugitive. Yeah, yeah. That's a good role though. No, he's like, he compared it.

Yeah. Well, Tommy Lee Jones is the thing. He's like, he's got this thing now where he doesn't even really need to act because he just like is very still and everything he does because people take so much of their thoughts and emotion about Tommy Lee Jones into whatever movie it is.

So he can just like say things very slowly and stillly and not move and you're like, that was an amazing performance. Yeah, that's exactly how it was. But it actually isn't a amazing performance. He's just out thinking in the audience. It's like, that's exactly how I would describe it like in no country for old man. Yeah, he was amazing in that, but that's exactly what it was. He was supposed to be there and like, there's that scene at the end. He's just out thinking in the audience. It's like, that's exactly how I would describe it, like in no country for old men.

Like, he was amazing in that, but that's exactly what it was. He was supposed to be there, and like, there's that scene at the end where he's just like, in the newspaper, and he does almost nothing. You're like, that's unbelievable.

He just gives that, that's not, and he figured that out. He gives that face right in front of his dreams. But it is true because the easiest thing to do is what the hardest thing to do is not overact. Yep. And he's just like, so restrained, some blueble. Did you, uh, do you ever read much Kormick McCarthy?

I know you're a voracious reader. Nah, his stuff is to I am and I should, but his stuff is, is to, it's just to the themes are too difficult for him. It's too much like that last, it's seen in no country for a moment. Yeah. Which Kormick McCarthy is. It's like, it's ramblingambling and then it ends and you're like What the hell just happened and then later on you're like, oh, yeah, that was really powerful ending. Yeah, kind of sticks with you. Yeah, I love Corn Carthus. Like I don't know if you remember this we were in Boston and you had just finished the road is that what's called the road

The road yeah, and you had me read the last chapter while we're waiting for I just read this and I just read the last chapter while we were waiting for something or something to be that. This is really good, just read this. And I just read the last like eight pages. And I just fucking stood there next to you and just cried for like 10 minutes waiting for it. I did that on purpose, can't believe it. Yeah, and Bernie started going, yeah. Yeah, I finally, I finally got this.

It actually really is a beat ending. That's I don't know why he tried so much. It is. They sit down and they watch Battle Royale together. I mean, they doesn't remember it 10 years later. Do you know more like 20? Well, maybe we saw this weekend. It was awesome.

What's that? Downton Abbey. Was it good? It was so good. It was great. I never watched Downton Abbey. There was so much Kung Fu. It was crazy.

That was weird. I saw the... It was Downton Abbey, called in Matrix 4. I thought you had SNL skid about it was okay. No, it was dude, that whole thing that they figured out with that movie is just, or that whole show is so weird because it's just like, remember when things were terrible

for a lot of people, but you understood it, wasn't that great, right? It's kinda is like, make Britain great again. Yeah. It's like, the theme of that movie, but somehow they made it work. It's really weird. I watched, did you, were you a big fan of the show?

Let's go down with that. I wouldn't know what is going on with that country. I mean, really, what's going on? I mean, we get America, we have, we got the like, the above the title guy with Donald Trump, like everyone's paying attention to him. And you get, you get UK, it's a mess. British Donald Trump's gonna leave.

Okay. What I was thinking about, I was thinking about this last time. I woke up in the middle of the night and this is what I woke up, I woke up at four in the morning and I was like, you know that he was really handling this well.

No one's talking about the EU really suffering that EU is just like, it's just, it's just, it's all laughing. It's like, I mean, it's kinda hilarious. It's like at least you're not the UK.

Yeah. No. I just like that dude, because you got shut down. It's a very cool. It's awesome. Is he going to end up having to resign or get removed for lying to the queen? Yeah, that's crazy, right? I don't know.

Do people do that? No. I mean, is that a thing? To resign? Yeah. No, I mean, honestly, ever since Clinton, it's just like, people can just like just keep saying Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, death. She can be scary. That be scary. If she could order the death. Yeah, but that would get what Gavin said was that the reason she doesn't exercise those powers is then there's nothing to stop the rest of the country from coming after her. Yeah. That's why she's the most important

piece on the chess board. Fair enough. She got that power to kill. She wasn't every direction everywhere. Remember for her age, you wouldn't know that. You wouldn't know it. It's crazy. Forrest like, can't get me. I'm on a diagonal. She's like, can't get me. Her corgis are like raptors. They come around the side. He's like a piece that's got to move two spaces

and three spaces over and she's like, tch. Yeah, but I kind of, I don't know, everything's just like, it's crazy time. Do you think I actually leave? What's that Brexit will actually happen? It has to. I don't think it will. At this point, I don't think it's gonna happen. I also think they'll actually leave? What's the Brexit will actually happen? It has to. I don't think it will.

At this point, I don't think it's gonna happen. I also, I Trump is not gonna get impeached. He's gonna get reelected. Or even if he does, he'll get impeached by the house. He's gonna impeached, but not- He can't be convicted. That's what happened to him.

I don't think it'll be a single move. Although, if I get margin, I think it'll be a larger margin than he won this last election. Well, I said, I remember Bush. Bush came back and is like, he was like, he's gone for sure at the reelection and he won by what, seven percent or five, seven percent like that?

Was it that close? It was a big lead. Like, it was enough to where it was not nearly as good. I mean, the one with Al Gore, they were down to like looking at paper ballots in Florida, you know? And he's getting five percent. It just can't imagine like, it like fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Like, fast forward. Imagine, remember though he was talking about he has political capital now, because he won by such a wider margin for the reelection. I think I got political capital and I'm gonna spend it.

Remember he kept saying that? Oh yeah, yeah. I think we can all agree that no matter what side of the political spectrum you fall on, Rudy Giuliani is unhinged. He's lost his mind. It's crazy to lost his mind. He really is.

I don't even think that but comic stories. Who's a mayor has mayor? Yeah. Who's weird? It's, who's a mirror. Yeah. Who's weird? It's amazing to watch that 180. Yeah. Have you ever seen that series on Netflix abstract? Abstract, no.

I know. They have a lot of stuff about design. And they have this one episode where they talk about, God, forget the woman's name. She's a really big in typography. But anyway, Victoria Jackson. No. But she talks about the design of the Florida ballots that happened How bad they were how bad they were and they interview the woman who designed the ballots for Florida

And it was just like I disall the space I had I figured I would stagger the names that have it in the middle It's like I can see now that it's confusing and it's just like This this weird thing you wouldn't think about like this just the way the ballot was laid out just a design choice. Maybe we through the election. Yeah. Yeah. And the woman who designed the ballot believes in that in that episode. She's like, yeah, I I wonder about that all the time. Like if the design I chose for a ballot. Change the outcome of a presidential election. Russ. It's interesting. change the outcome of a presidential election. Rough. It's interesting.

But. That's kind of a bummer. Babies always like, he's gonna give me the baby. I can say hi to the baby. I saw that. Can we fly that baby in? Fly the baby.

Speaking of flying babies, Japan Airlines is gonna have a map now when you book a flight on Japan Airlines that shows you where there's, where babies are on the plane. What? That was the best transition I have, or Segway I have ever seen upon that. That was the best transition I have ever seen.

She put it in his head for a reason. That was really good. I think you're, yeah. I was ready. Very good. You got a map waiting for me. You don't want to bring it up at some point and then she said fly a baby and I was like,

oh, that's perfect. Great. They've got a map on the plane where baby's. When you book your flight, you can know how close you are to a baby. I think between eight months and two years or something like that. You have mentioned it back. Yeah, so you can see, you know, if you you are to a baby. I think between eight months and two years, or something like that. You have mentioned that.

Yeah, so you can see, you know, if you're sitting next to one. You, because if you see a human baby on a plane, that's a big problem, but an emotional support horse. Have you seen this? Go on. Motional support horse. Somebody brought it on a fucking plane.

I don't believe that. Look at the emotional support horse. Is it an advice animal? No. Is it an advice animal. No emotional animal This is gonna be one of the funniest pictures you'll ever fucking see. What is this? This this this got a human babies our own offspring or a problem But people are going to fucking planes with horses. This is gotta be photoshopped. No, there it is. Marshall support horse It's a baby horse. It's a miniature horse. Most of support miniature horse

Now yep, this is hospitals back. No, this us support miniature horse. Now. Yep. This is hospital's back. No, this is terminal two. Damn. I'm sorry, I mean, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like, you're like,

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That was not it, but no No, so they're showing a picture of what what looks like a be a gigantic pig that a woman is somehow carrying where is she's gonna Get hunger on the flight. Maybe it was a long flight and no meal service. There you go. Hi, little boy. Hi, buddy. Let me give you a couple. It's best if I was hanging out.

The problem with the emotional support, animal kind of thing as a concept, but can you name anything? Like could you have an emotional support racquet? Dude, we're at horses. As long as a bat. There's a certification process. If we're at horses, I mean, we're they wrecking what you know what?

I prove that I don't have diseases. He just gave me a great idea. What can I name like Gus as an emotional support animal and then he just gets going to play with me? Why not? Emotional support human. Yeah. This is my emotional support human and he has to go on to fight with me because I don't think they bought a seat for the pig. No, I was on board with somebody who had emotional support dog. That was like a giant dog. It was like a big lab. When I was in the middle seat, it was ridiculous. We missed some big poo, but like, that was like,

it's pretty nice. Let's poo in our last. Whew. Well, I watch it, watching Ashley and the baby. It's just amazing. There's like nothing more pure than mother's love. It's just like the baby just like, he just like locks into her and stares at her

and stares at her and stares at her, you know, for hours at a time. So it's just amazing, you know? And she's like, she's like his whole world. Like she's his comfort, his food, everything. Like she depends on her for every single thing in his life. It's fucking amazing. It sounds amazing.

It's for the good. Yeah, right? I also love milk his life. It's fucking amazing. It sounds pretty good. Yeah, right? I also love milk drunk babies. Milk drunk is amazing. Milk drunk is amazing. But the baby gets enough like filled up with more milk and then they're just like. It must be weird raising a kid though at this stage

versus, you know, 15 years ago. How long was it? What's tell us to say? 17, yeah. Yeah, because I mean, it's the same age as Rishmi. Because now you have like things like they have automated like baby rockers and stuff like that. I told you to. 17, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's the same age as Rishki. Because now you have like things like they have automated, like baby rockers and stuff like that, the remote and Bluetooth and create something.

Well, hey, that is shit with the spring that you wind up and it would click, click, click, click that. The shit that Michael shows me routinely that they have for their kids is like, they're living in the future. It's pretty nice. And it was like 15, 14, so like, 15 years ago. I think taking care of a baby with mechanical stuff is the most jetsons shit we have.

Yeah. Like, we didn't get much jetsons shit, you know? We got a bunch of other weird shit, but like, when you have like a rocker that is like automated and you can turn it on and off with a Bluetooth with your phone, that's pretty crazy. Yeah. Although I'm more conscious of it now,

the baby in the house, but it's like, is everything really needed broadcast a Bluetooth signal or a Wi-Fi signal, like everything in my house? Like I wonder if you took like a scope and could see the waves and how they're playing that with cancer beams? I don't know, I just like, you know,

I see those pictures from the 50s, everyone's in a nightclub and everybody's fucking smoking while Frank Sinatra's on stage. And then it's like 20 years later, like oh yeah, it's self-equilial. It's like, well's in a nightclub, and everybody's fucking smoking while Frank Sinatra's on stage. And then it's like 20 years later, like, oh yeah, it's self-equilibrium. It's like, of course, of course, that's gonna kill you. And ours is gonna be Ed Sheeran and Blake Euth. That's just terrible.

And vaping. Like, it's just coming around now, vaping is breathing oil into your lungs. That's gonna be a surprise. Nobody was surprised by this. Nobody was surprised by this. But will you be surprised? Would you be surprised if 20 years from now,

they said, oh, everyone has brain tumors now because they held a radio transceiver up to their head on a regular basis. So I'm gonna make a vaping post that was controversial. Because we have a family, well, we had a, because a lot of people like, you know, Yelena about the post online, that because we have a family member who's you know, yelling about the post online, that because we have a family member

who's younger and is 20, early 20s, and did the vaping thing, is one of those people that you hear about that got the weird lung disease, and was in the oil pocket, and it's lung. Yeah, he had permanent lung damage. And they don't know what it is. They don't just try to figure out what it is.

Right. And so she made this cautionary post, and a lot of people responded with, you know, don't tell me what to do, kind of basically was the response, you know, which I get, you know, but just like, would you rather know? Would you rather have the information right? Right. We've never wondered what it is that you do. Would you rather know? Well, we see that all the time. It's like we talked about this in a couple of podcasts ago, or I guess that's been a while some of the podcasts, but it's this Greta,

Jordan Berger's been in the news all over the place. That's different too. It's like someone can say something about climate change and people have a very visceral reaction to it. So like, I compost all my stuff. It's like, well, I'm not gonna do that. It's a waste of time. And here's why it's a waste of time for you.

It's like, just kind of, let people do what they want. I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. I'll sell you a plastic straw. Right. I had the weirdest experience of the day. A guy rolled coal at me. Hmm.

I was in. Would you have an electric car? I have an electric car. I'm driving my electric car. Not thinking anything about it. And he's coming the other way down the street. He slaves a big truck. He slowed down next to me and rolled coal and then kept going.

Which was, it was very clear that he had done it to be next to me in order to set it off. And I'm like, how does that improve your day? Yeah. You know, like, what is better about your life now after having done it? I just don't get it. It's just a really weird mentality.

It's not going to help you. It doesn't help me. It doesn't help anybody. Why does it make... You're going to be quite surprised about playing electric car, weirdo. I guess. Yeah, look at his name.

It's so hot. And at his core does he have an issue with you caring about? I don't know. The thing I wonder is like, it's the same thing as the great of the members. You're not using any more gas. Right. So there should be more gas for him.

Right. Yeah, and more coal, I guess. I mean, it didn't, Well, maybe you're taking his coal because maybe we have a coal power plant. Oh, okay, that's the thing. I'm shutting down coal plants. Yeah, that's what it is. It's always those jobs, it didn't, but you're taking his cola because maybe we have a cold power plant. Oh, okay, that's the thing. I'm shutting down coal plants. Yeah.

It's always those jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. That's the thing. I don't think he was a combiner because he was an Austin. That matters, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. Jobs are the most important thing. Got a job, job, job, job. And it's like anything that takes jobs or kills jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs. But it's like now, we have other jobs.

Right. We have other jobs. And it's like a lot of people who want to shut down coal plants would also be the same people who would invest in reeducation so that people go off and find new careers and like solar or wind or something like that. No, don't vote for those guys. Vote for the guys that's gonna keep the coal plant open.

Even though, guess what? There's a lot of other other jobs. We have used to have switchboard operators. Yeah. Right. We don't have switchboard operators anymore. I don't think you might as do upset about that about it. CGP Gray who did the video about how we'll get to a point where humans don't have to work anymore and you have to have like a living wage post employment. Yeah, and the example he gave

was horses. Like horses used to have to work all the time. Like you would, you know, have to write him for transportation, you have to use an applau fields, and now horses are unemployed. Oh, no, they're on their permanent vacation. Right, and now horses have leisure time. Like, I thought about this the other day, I was driving down the road and it was like, a horse in a trailer being pulled by a truck. I was like, that fucking horse has it made.

Like a hundred years ago, that horse would have been pulling the equipment of the truck. Like now it's riding in the back of a truck. It's like it's got its head out the little window looking around. It's like spoiled ass horse. Man, which house that horse?

Yeah, I wish I had the perspective of going back. And like I guess I could read old newspapers from like 150 years ago or 100 years ago and we were like, oh, the wagon wheel industry is really pissed off about cars because all the wagon wheel repairman are out of businesses now. Well, just also like, I don't know,

some of these jobs are just like, they're bad jobs. They're not, they're so safe. Why do you want to go get cancer? Why do you want to be in the coal mine, right? It makes no sense, you know? You know, the mentality is that that's what they've done. They don't, they don't know what else they can do. And that's part of it, right?

It's fear, the unknown, not knowing what else you can do after you've been doing that for 15, 20 years. It'd be, it'd be like if I had to stop doing this after 16 years and I had to go start mining coal. I'd be like, well, I'm fucking terrified of that. 100%. We talk about, I think it's probably easy for people who have jobs that aren't in jeopardy

because the advanced technology to talk about, things like this in a cavalier way. But, you know, like as a society, we should all be trying to get the best jobs for people who need to work, not something where you fucking kill yourself, you know, to do something that's outdated and hurts everybody else in the process. Right. What is the purpose of that? And the same feeling that makes one of people in China like jumping off buildings, who are in a factory where they're doing the same thing every day, you know what I mean?

Like, look at China, it's terrible, it's terrible. It's like how much different is that on the scale? You know? If we had those jobs in America, you'd be fighting to keep those. We're trying to get those back, right? We're trying to get those jobs. We want to manufacture things in the United States. Yeah, it's just, yeah, it's hard. It's really hard when you live with something that's such a basic part of life, like being employed, it's hard to imagine the world without it. Because you imagine just how, you can imagine the, this world, if your job goes away, or if everybody's job went away overnight in that,

but going to a thing where we don't have jobs and we just all have a basic income, is something that's going to probably happen. It's not from like, advancements in technology for energy and stuff like that, just automation. Yeah, don't you think all the transportation jobs are about to go away? Yeah, I'm not saying I'm like, I'm particularly supporting Yang or Rene O'Leary

the candidates, but I think he's like way out in front of this issue, just generally. Like he's the only one that's talking about automation, like being the thing that really threatens just what our culture and our society is just generally, and we have to come to terms with that. And if you look at like income, see the Ali Baba guy, Ali Baba, no, no, no, no,

Andrew Yang, the John Ma is at the guy who had the thing with Elon Musk, Elon Musk, they started raising the flag on population collapse, which is, I think it's a thing, Jack Ma. Jack thing. Jack Ma. Jack Ma. Jack Ma.

Yeah. But it's like, I mean, Freddie Wong had a great tweet. We talked about before. I think it was Freddie where he said, I'm old enough to remember when robots taken over people's jobs was a good thing. Yeah. You know, and it's just a disruption.

That's hard. It is, but it's a natural progression. It's the same thing we were talking about. You want progress, but it's changed that makes progress possible. People don't like change. They do do not like change. I just feel bad for a new. I'm not having an empty glass.

You know, it's a great job working with me. We talk about this guy else now, and how people can like really summarize thing and make a really salient point. I think one of the things that's like, is really important thing people should watch is SNL did a sketch for black jeopardy with Tom Hanks on it that's totally distilled down like what does the urban disenfranchised voting population has so much in common with the white

world disenfranchised population and they don't see it. They're not allowed to like share their experience and Tom Hanks is on Black Jeopardy's wearing a like a MAGA hat and everything, but he's really good at Black Jeopardy because he understands all the questions and it's just a great sketch. It's such a great sketch. The last season of it.

Yeah, I know. I'm just holding that like, I think it's pretty old. It's pretty cool. Yeah, season to go now. And I just wish, I really wish people could see that. I really wish could see, people could see how similar their problems are and what the causes of those problems are.

And maybe just maybe a billionaire is not gonna solve the problem of a dude who's scratching by maybe to paycheck. You know what's a great way to get some perspective is to read a book that was written 75, a novel that was written 75 to 150 years ago. It's just any novel. And you'll realize every problem those people had

is identical to the problems we have right now. To Berkulosis? Yeah, sure. Well now, yeah, because people are fucking many of that. Yeah, exactly. Well, John Steinbeck said he described Americans as a population of temporarily embarrassed millionaires. That's what the poor in America are, like in the depression.

They were all going to be millionaires and they can't believe they were going through this. So we need to protect millionaires because eventually I'll be one. It's really interesting. I've been reading a forever because I've been too busy to read lately, but I'm reading Crime and Punishment right now, which takes place in Russia in the late 1800s. And it's like every issue like running from the landlord like going out the window because you don't't wanna go by the landlord, there's gonna be looking for your rent and like scrounging around, trying to convince people

to buy you beer, it's all the same day-to-day problems that these people have that people have today. And it's like, it's amazing how much the world has changed since 1885, but how little the world has changed since 1885. Yeah. This side of Paradise is, not JD Soundger, who wrote Greg Attsby, F got the Gerald. F got Fitzgerald wrote a semi-autobiographical novel about his college days that takes place

at the turn of the center, takes place during World War I, and it's called this side of Paradise. And you read that and it sounds like you're reading a journal or a diary of a 19 year old go into college in 2019. It's fucking crazy. And that's part of why I like to read and I read so much older stuff. It's like it reminds you how little things change. How similar we all are and how similar we've been

at our core for a very long time. Well, I do think there's something that's outpaced everything else, which is like the goals of politicians and the way the politics works has seems like consistent for millennia, like going back to Roman times. Yeah.

But if you look at that, what the masses, the people who really put these people in power, what they've had to deal with, go back to the term bread and circuses, right? That's what keeps the populations just happy. Bread and circuses, the curve on that has been nuts,

like going through to religion, going through then to television. Now the internet, I mean, nothing holds a candle to that. Like, I really think the internet is, and this is something I'm always thinking about when we do what we do. No way to think about the, this is America video with Donald Glover.

It's like that those people dancing in the foreground, it's like, it's so easy to like just think you're dealing with an issue or having the impact. Like you talk about people from hundreds of years ago, there would be revolutions and you know, they would take people out and cut their heads off with guillotine stuff like that. It's not gonna happen now.

It's not because people will like something on Facebook, the good that like reaction that they've done something and they haven't done something or it'll be something new. Like this Hong Kong thing is amazing to me. It's like, it's so crazy that JD is something new. Like this Hong Kong thing is amazing to me. It's like, it's so crazy, the JD is graduating high school with this Hong Kong thing going on. And it's exactly the same time I senior year

when TNM is where it was happening. And it's just like, and it's like in two years, no one will talk about this. It won't matter. It's kind of unbelievable how smart they are to, like if you watch what the protestors are doing with destroying the tear gas in those canisters and they take down the facial recognition cameras and all those things like the type

of, I don't know, what do you call it, warfare, basically the protest is on a completely different level with today's technology. And you think of like China being this kind of like oppressive, totalitarian state. And the fact that there are these kids, young people who are out there kind of like figuring out ways to fight back on some of this stuff that seems monolithic and impossible to stop.

I don't know, like some ways, it gives me hope even though the situation is terrible. Have you seen the thing where now, as the protesters are being arrested, they'll start shouting their name because they know they're being filmed so that way they know that's who it was and they're being taken into the system.

So they can't be, if they're lost, then there's some accountability. That's what both sides, they hit them with water cannons that have blue dynam now, so they can find them later. Right, but then, yeah, other people are, yeah. Yeah, well, so they had the police are dressing up as protesters now. That was a scary image.

Not, and it's one of the things is once you see it, it's like, of course, it's, there's nothing like, to me, more frightening than when conspiracy theories are then suddenly true, you know, it's like, and it's like cops, they were dressed as protesters, and they got found out, and they get out their batons, and they're dressed like protesters

with batons and guns and everything else. Well, there's something about the dishonesty of it that's unsettling. Sunfare? You know, it's just like, well, the protesters are out there, we're protesting. We're being straightforward about what we want, and the other side can show up and try to stop them, but they

show up and be as deceptive about it. I like not not carry out their side of the argument, you know, honestly is scary. I wonder about that a lot in comments I read online, not just about our stuff, but about anything, anything, anything I read in general, like whether it's a new site or any video, it's like, who is the person behind this comment? Is this someone working the agenda of this thing that I read or is it someone who's working on opposing agenda, who's posing just like, as I'm just another person who's come across this article. So I have to read everything online that is user generated with a huge grain of salt. There is no accountability for this.

I don't know if this person's working for or against the thing that I just looked at. Yep. It's really scary. It is. So last year in 2018 was the first time this happened, but it's like growing a number, which is we're having unmanned drones,

taking down unmanned drones in war zones. And it's like one of those things, it's like you can't just ignore when that's going by. Like, that's now, that's a crazy thing. It's like, there's robots killing robots. That's the start of Horizon Zero Dawn. It's a Will Smith movie. It's a future Will Smith movie.

It's nuts. God, I think about that all the time. Like, one of the things I won't miss about my web influencer life is some stuff that I had to do. And I, one of the things I won't miss is like being involved directly, I think with YouTube on that side, like the YouTube creator summit and stuff like that, I always left that feeling like, man,

just like how crazy powerful that room is with 200 of the top creators. And it's always like, I know that like if a computer algorithm, if a little flag is changed in that algorithm, all 200 of these people will change what they're doing. If this computer algorithm decides a video should be eight minutes, all of our content is eight minutes long. And there's a powerful group of people in the room.

That's the real matrix right there. I mean, you just described it, Chima, the last 11 years, playing that YouTube algorithm. And you would like modify what you're doing, right? Based on what the algorithm is going to reward. It's not just that. It's also a computer stock trading.

You know, most stock trading is algorithmic. Yeah. There's very few people still making those decisions. It's like, this number moved down, this number moved up. I'm going to sell or I'm going to buy it. It's like millions or billions of dollars change hands because an algorithm thought, oh, this is the time to execute this. I'm not even as a kid.

I hear on the news like, well, it's well, it's down 10 points in after hours trading. Like, what is after hours trading? What is the kid who's fasting? Who has access to after hours? Like, as a kid, I'm like, that's not fair. If someone can trade after hours, it just didn't make any sense. I do, yeah.

So, me and the socks, though, I did one of the movies I watched this weekend, I'm gonna watch two minutes of it and then watch the whole thing as primer. What a fucking great movie. Oh my God, I was just thinking about that. What a great movie, man. I was just thinking about that. What a great movie man. I was just recommending it to Lewis.

Yeah, really? Yeah. Primer's such a great film. Such a great movie. That was right. Yeah, and Dallas, like for like five grand or something. What did those guys do to that anything? Oh, you made it in color.

Yes. Well, it was in color. Upstream color. I don't know, those are in color. Stinkers. Yeah, then he good. I thought it was interesting. I wasn't nearly as like this really impacted is.

Is it primer or primer? What do you say? Primer. Primer. I think it's supposed to be primer, but you know, but we see it correct. I feel like I'm saying it wrong either way. I'm going to be fine. All right. It's about time. I have to stop. You want to wrap it up? Yeah. Let's wrap this up. Congratulations on your career. Thanks. Thanks. Here at the end. Any guys any thoughts on me? I, I, I, Gus you in particular,

I really wonder how much I'm gonna see you after this. Because is it fair to say 98% of our interaction takes place on this podcast? Yes, fair to say. Yeah, we, or we text. But usually in relation to the podcast. Yeah, usually, yeah. Yeah, like I'm gonna do this,

or I'm gonna do that, or I'm gonna talk about this, or I send you just like a link to something podcast. Yeah, usually. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that or I want to talk about this. Or I send you just like a link to something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I will say we have started getting lunch together on a regular basis. We'll continue that. Right. Oh, no, that's out to you. We're going to continue to get together. You're more the love of the come.

That's streaming. I'm going to be Twitter streaming. Sorry. Change of the desk. Well, it's fun being a being a web influencer was a lot of fun. And it's somewhere where those things, it's like just like at the top of this, when I said that people will often say,

hey, I'm not going very far away, and I'm not calling out any more particular, everyone does this because it's like, usually people are involved with a big brand, Ray did it when he left the cheap and 100, Bruce did it when he moved on from fun house. You should say that, it's like, I'll be around because you don't want

people to get scared about the thing you helped build. But I also think it's important too. Like I was going to say this to Bruce at the time. It's like, it's okay to pause and like say, this is, this is the end of a thing and this is good and this thing was good. And there'll be something new later. You don't have to pretend, not pretend, but just insinuate that it's going to continue. Yeah. Likewise, I've also learned in my life, don't ever say never or say, I'm never gonna do this again, I'm never gonna, because you know, two years from now,

I'd be like, I need to do this. Jeff asked me a dinner last night, he goes, you're gonna miss the outlet, you know, for on a weekly basis, to be able to talk to a lot of people and share your thoughts. And at the last night, I was like, no, no, but maybe in two years,

maybe that'll be happy. Well, I think you're going to be able to share your thoughts and a different way. Yeah. You know, going forward, like, you know, putting your cool ideas and themes and things you want to say into new pieces, not doing what you're doing now, but that's going to be awesome too. So go a little baby crying there.

The baby, the baby, the baby, the baby. That's almost like you. Someone's very happy about it. Yeah, he's unhappy about this being my last podcast. But I always think too, I've always said this, I have a retirement idol. Remember who is my retirement idol? Is it me?

Johnny Carson. Johnny Carson. Johnny Carson should be everybody's retirement idol. Anyway, it's just like, maybe not living life idol, but retirement idol. And while I'm not retiring, you know, it's like, I'm still gonna go on and work on projects. It's like this, I feel like this part of my career

is over, this part of it. And it's like, the paraphrase what he says, like an enormous privilege, enormous honor for people to welcome you into their lives. And it's been a very great privilege from being able to be sitting in the seat for 10 years. And I hope you'll welcome whoever ends up sitting in the seat after me.

And to use his words, it's like if I ever find something that I wanna do again, I hope that you will be as gracious as inviting me back into your life as you have been. Thank you everybody. Bye. Love you, buddy. Oh, and I switched to Android.

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