Rooster Teeth Podcast - Did We Buy GameStop Stocks? - #634

Episode Date: February 2, 2021

Join Gus Sorola, Gavin Free, Barbara Dunkelman, and Cole Gallian as they discuss The GameStonks, how screws were Apple’s undoing, two useless blue wizards, and more on this week's RT Podcast! This episode was recorded on February 1, 2021 and is sponsored by Honey (Visit http://joinhoney.com/ROOSTER to get Honey for FREE today!), Freshly ( http://freshly.com/rooster), and Audible (http://audible.com/rooster or text rooster to 500-500) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Thank you, ExpressVPN for sponsoring RTTV. Hello everyone, welcome to the receive podcast. I'm Gus. I'm Gavin. I'm Cole. I'm Barbara. And I'm Gus. I thought for sure you were gonna use a voice effect there.

Barbara. Yeah. I'm Barbara. Yeah. You didn't have a Disney Channel transition. I was playing around with this right before we went live and Gavin, you honor a Pete. What you said to me. How do I uninvent something? I think what I said. You did not have that last week, did you, Barbara? I did. I think, but I don't think I used it much.

It takes a little bit to learn, like, not exactly how to use everything. And even then, I still don't like know how to use all of the settings. There's a lot of luck here. Go XLR, by the way, for anyone who doesn't know, we're talking about. There's a lot of buttons on it. I do of buttons. Go XLR, by the way, for anyone who doesn't know we're talking about. There's a lot of buttons on it. I do not push. Why not?

I push all of them. There's some that I think they don't work on mine. I don't have the voice effects. My voice effects don't work like Barbers does. And it's not something I want to use, so it's not something I've gone through. And like, why doesn't it work? And let me figure it out. It's just like whatever.

The voice effects won't work unless you have the FX button on. So that's like the first button you have to push on, then you can turn on all the other effects. Correct. You also sometimes need to restart the software. Hey, you worked. Oh, Cole just fixed it for me. I never knew that's what it was.

Live troubleshooting. Thank you, Cole. Shout out to Cole for fixing my take-off. I really, really think that's what it was. My work here's done. He's kidding about that. I'm about to annoy that. Hell out of you guys, even more now.

Oh, okay, man. Now I have my back. I'll go with the turn of her clothes. I'm just like, oh, I don't, I don't know, like it's broken. Mine's broken. And then the one button, you're like, oh, now I'm going to use it. Non-stop. That was awesome

It's fucking set the voice changers are the the most fun to me especially when we're playing among us because Man, I don't know I feel like you could tell in my voice if I'm lying or not so being able to like just pitch shift it Just a little bit you can't really tell if I'm telling the truth and I'm like really scary when I make it lower People are intimidated Oh, guess how low can it go let's find out Hello Baby Are you also doing

What's wrong? I know I can't Yeah, we're trying to try it I can't understand you I'm certain but we lost to there It's too much to be a better guy Oh, whoa We're going Yeah, but the funny part is that especially Trevor and I are playing something together he'll hear me doing my voice like this

Even though it's already doing the pitch shift. He's like, can I just talk normally? It's all the same when you speed it up like you, you got clustered, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, you got, like that. You want to talk like this, yeah, I'll be telling you. Yeah, okay, after we're done with the podcast tonight,

I'm gonna definitely go through and play with all the Siddix now that, I wanna know, that's not, how much money between March and now was spent on go ex alarm mixes. Okay. They sold out immediately, because like we were looking at them for like home streaming scenarios, like home streaming setups. And it was like Kyle got one like the first week of quarantine,

because he was like, oh, I wanted to get one for at home streaming. And then it was like, not until October that they went back on sale. And like just their website, it was a TC Telecom. HTC Hellion? Yeah, TC Hellion, TC Hellion. They were just like sold out for the entire year. It was like, you guys are missing out so much on people need this right now

and they're gonna go to other solutions. But I'm sure that they made so many, right? It's like, I'm sure they have to book factory time. They made a bunch and they're like, oh, we got enough stock. We can deal with this. They did all sales out and they like, they have to wait for factory time again

to be able to produce more. Back to time in shipping time because I don't think it's produced here. I don't think it's produced domestically. Nothing is made in America, Cole. True. The only thing that's not true, the only thing we make is beaten dead and guns. And white and black is every part of the Mac pro made in America.

Did you hear there was there was a story when they started making the trashcan Mac pro a few years ago, they made a deal about it. Yeah, it was made here in Austin. I read a story a couple of years. Yeah, a couple of years after the Mac pro came out about how difficult it was to manufacture that in the United States. And it got to the point where there's just the supply chain infrastructure. If you play a lot of factorial, you know what this is like, but the supply chain was not set up efficiently to get them all of the parts that they needed.

And it got to the point where they were, like, they needed one particular screw. It was like a screw of a certain size that they needed to put the Mac Pro together and they just couldn't get enough of it. And it came down to like a dude in, they made him here in Austin. It was a dude in Austin would load up as many screws as he could find in his truck and drive it to the factory.

And that was like the constraint on how many Mac Pros they could make. Is how many screws could the guy find? Right, and put it in this pick of truck. It's like in factorial when you go around and you mind something by hand and you go put it in the factory so it can automate this picture. It's like in factorial, when you go around and you mind something by hand, and you go put it in the factory so it can automate everything else.

It's like that. You know what I'm saying? That's like a problem I have in my house. That's not a problem that a multi-million dollar billion dollar company should be having as to how we get this screw from one house. I feel like a trillion dollar company should be able to get a million of any screw

same day. They could have had a 3d printer like just pretty good. I'm screws. What did the screw even do? I don't make it good. Did I just leave it out? Is that why that thing sucked? But the same further like we don't need it. We don't need it. Wait, we did.

We did need it. Oh, now overheats all the time. Shit. Here goes. It was I'm going to read you the headline. A custom screw was the bottleneck in US Mac Pro production. This was an article from January of 2019. Let's see. Why did they call it Mac production? Oh, that's pretty good.

I like that. I think Gavin looked directly into his camera. I didn't see your eyes. I want to be in the, I want to be in the, I want to be in the, like, earnings report where they're like, well, yes, we're working on the Mac production now. And everyone just looks around at each other like, and then you fired while doing finger guns up the door. Securities. I'm going to, I'll, I'll read you the, the relevant paragraph here.

Speaking to three people who worked on the project, screws for the Mac Pro were hard to source within the United States. three people who worked on the project, screws for the Mac Pro were hard to source within the United States. Initial tests of production were hampered by a contractor's constrained production levels, producing at most 1,000 screws a day and is in 20 employees' shop. So it's like, there was a dude with 20 employees,

they could only make 1,000 screws a day. Like that was it, something they were, entire Mac Pro production was constrained because they were the people making the custom screws for them. Someone couldn't do the maths on that upfront. They can only provide a thousand a day. Did nobody play factorial?

I mean, this is a factorial problem. Factorio 101 here. I'm imagining a factorial size like man size convey about. But it's like one screw going onto the video. It's just one guy like molding it, like putting in the little divots and everything like that and it's like, all right, one. It's very Apple to use a screw. I assume it was custom because I don't want you removing it. Probably. If it was a Phillips head, it'd be a piece of piss.

I wonder if whoever gets to the point where something like factorial can be put on a resume. Oh, like you know about like you play like you banged up a certain hour on it. Yeah, I could have seen that problem beforehand because of his factorial knowledge. So when does that become an applicable like an acceptable, oh yeah, I play factorial. Okay okay you can do business infrastructure. Yeah like someone's

working supply chain management if like under the job listings it's like minimum 100 hours in factorial. Yeah so if they had 50 how many 20 employees? Yeah. So they make a thousand a day with 20 employees the say it's a 10 hour day they're making five screws an hour. I think it was was it a thousand a day with 20 employees. The say it's a 10 hour day, they're making five screws an hour. I think it was, was it a thousand or was it 10,000? I really hope it was 10,000 because if it's a thousand, that's just like embarrassingly low.

It was a thousand. Oh, for what's it? It was a thousand. I mean, I could, Oh no, it was a thousand. It was a thousand. A day? Yeah.

It must have been a super custom screw 50 screws each a day Oh did I do that did I leave off as there? Yeah, you said no hour and hour Oh, so what's 50 screws a day per person, but let's see when they work in eight hour day So it's like about 10 hour day. Yeah, so it's about six screw about screw every 10 minutes 10 hour day. Yeah, it's about six screw about screw every 10 minutes. I mean, honestly, if you gave me what we got like 80 minutes left of the podcast, I couldn't make eight screws. I couldn't make one. Well, I think if you were working for a company that only made screws, you might be able to do it. They probably understood. I don't think you could employ 20 people based off one screw. I think it's screw.

We're just providing us for apples. Speaking of a resume, yes, I can make one screw. I can make one type of screw. Turns out someone got hired there because they set on the resume, I could screw, but like it was a completely different context. You're hired. I like the boldness.

Oh, yeah, that's a terrible, terrible. Anyone who has the new Mac Pro, the cheese, great one. Just the yes, it looks like I think the Ruby audio team has one. Is it good? I don't think I think they like it because they, the only reason they use it because they have to because of the software as of a, is it logic? Yeah. Right. What's it?

I don't know what they use up by the way. Pro Tools, it's Pro Tools. Okay. Pro Tools, okay. I'm looking it up. They sounded like they had some difficulty with it at first first but I think I haven't heard about it since So it starts it. It starts at $6,000. That's so fucking expensive and the wheels are like 400 bucks each are they Like to yeah, the wheel's up for 100 bucks. Yeah

Each or first set for the set total for the set. I mean not that it's still a hundred dollars wheel my god stand for the monitor is a grand You need that Jesus I mean you have to use it so fucking stupid lean it up against the wall. I'm only gonna buy three Screw you for wheel If you just put it like a tricycle, you should be good, right? Like just do it like that. Little kids never fall off of tricycles, right? So it's easy.

I mean, you really only need two wheels. If you, if the whole point is you want to be able to wheel that thing around, just have two feet and two wheels and then lift up one end. Oh, what's done? What are we half the price? I'm like, are you going to get around that? What's the, what's the need to wheel it around? For people using it, and well, I used to have a computer that I didn't use on set, and

it was very handy that it was on wheels. Helped it. But it was in a box that was on wheels. I couldn't actually have the. Yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't want, especially with all the holes, I wouldn't want to be moving that around anywhere. I feel like I'd put it in a box before I just wheeled around. You just could put a cover on it or something.

I saw someone in chat bring up, I'm sorry if I'm pronouncing this wrong, trypophobia, which is that fear of holes, right? Like multiple holes or? Multiple little holes, yeah. And I know like, I apologize, I'm going to show it for anybody afraid, but like the, the camera on the new iPhone had that. And I know a lot of people were complaining about that, but that computer is that to like, an, an, an, an, agree.

Yeah. Why is everything so holy? You need holes for stuff. You got to put stuff in holes. Go on. So anybody, so anybody get in on that GameStop stock action? Diamond hands, baby. I have diamond hands. That happened after our last podcast.

Mr. I was talking about it last week. Yeah, that was really hit like Tuesday last week. It's been crazy. Did you buy any coal? I missed out on talking about it last week. Yeah, that was really hit like Tuesday last week. It's been crazy. Did you buy any cool? Yeah, I bought some at about two shares at 70 last week. Holy shit.

Three something now. Or is that I think it's down to 200? I think it's down to 200. You could buy some Mac Pro wheels now. Oh, me? Yeah, I can buy the exactly the right amount now. I didn't get in on it because I'm still trying to wrap my head around stocks and everything around the stock market and hedge funds and like all that information.

I'm trying that just I just felt like, oh, go ahead. Sorry. I watched the big short for the first time this weekend with Trevor. And honestly, like watching that movie helped me understand the market a little bit more. So that kind of helped. That's a really good movie. Yeah.

It was great. I haven't seen it for a while. It did fun ways of helping you understand it. But understand the concepts they were gonna have to talk about. Yeah, like, like, like, we like Margot Roby and a bathtub. Yeah, I mean, who's not gonna have to get to that Yeah, like William Arbor, Roby and a bathtub. Yeah, I mean, who's not gonna have to take that? Yeah, it's a fun way to help you understand.

Oh, listen, I'll listen to anything she's teaching me in that scenario. But it's great because like, it's digestible. It's a lot to take in and a lot to understand, but they do it in a really smart way. But Trevor was also helping explain things to me because this is something I never learned growing up. I never really asked about as a kid. Obviously, they don't teach us in schools, which I think they should do if they're not already

starting to, because it's a huge part of like investments. It's like extra curricular class. At least you could learn like financial management or like stock market type stuff. It wasn't part of the normal economic class. That should be taught to everyone. That and mortgages and stuff. Yeah, absolutely. Rent agree.

Like a stuff that you actually will have to use. You should have a financial helmet class where it's like, hey, you want to be good going forward. Here's the steps you can start taking. I know I've got people saying that. They had a class where they pick stocks and theoretically invest fake money in it. But it's like, you're really not, you're only barely touching the surface, right?

Like there's no further digging into the, the theory's no real. There's no real loss with the fake stuff like the fake money. You're gonna make the kids bring some money and pony up to lose it. I mean, I would never say do this, but if it was like they're grade, that they were like betting with their grade, that'd be one thing, but I would never recommend doing that.

I don't know what it is, because like the other thing that people keep talking about is like, oh, you know what? The damn millennials, they played Animal Crossing in the stock market. They are taught them how to do this. I'm like, well, it's pretty different. There's not like diversified, like yet diversified. You could only buy one type of good.

Yeah. And Tom Nook's not trying to short you on turnups on the back end. No. He is a greedy boss, did they? He is. Yeah, but it was an interesting week to see all of that go down and to see how the financial markets reacted and how apps reacted. We're places like Robin Hood, we're strictly people from being able to even trade game stop stock, which seems counterintuitive. If you're a stock trading app, shouldn't you allow people to trade stocks? Well, they're actually, I think he's testifying in front of the house today.

Oh really? I don't know about that. Yeah, because I mean they're I think 50% owned by the one of the hedge funds. Yeah. Who is it, Citroël? I can't remember. He's expected to testify on February 18th.

It looks like. Yeah, not today, but I saw today they got announced that he was going to be testifying because the SEC was going to investigate it and they're saying they're looking into the investigation from the retail investors perspective. Right. Interesting. Because that means that's who they cater to is the retail investor. Yeah.

But I mean, you're seeing a whole to, is the retail investor. Yeah. But I mean, you've seen a whole bunch of like crazy stuff today where like there's the media is kind of lying about a lot of things, I don't know, I don't want to get too far into it because it's still all playing out. And like this week's gonna be as crazy, if not crazier than last week. There's been a lot of stuff like everyone saying that Reddit is moving over to Silver now.

When like if you go on to Reddit, everyone's saying like no one here said we're going to silver if you go to silver you're helping the The hedge fund people so it's it's It's gonna get crazy. I wonder like all of this started Like conspiracy theory. It's like someone who just had a bunch of game stop stock right? They just wanted to like pump it and dump it like man I got all this worthless stock. It's getting shorter to hell. Let's just get everyone to pump it up.

And then I'll make my exit. That's honestly why I didn't buy any game stop. Is I felt like by the time I heard about it, that I was someone else's exit strategy, that it was like, it was already pumped up to where it was gonna go. And it's like, that's it. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna get involved. I'm not gonna touch it.

Yeah, because we, I mean, Sam and Kyle has started talking about it a little like two weeks ago. They're like, oh, hey, this crazy thing is going to happen next week. Like be warned. I was like, oh, like, you don't really know. Like, no one really knows when anything is going to happen like that. But they were kind of saying that there was some promise to what GameStop was trying to do where they had said that there was a court case that had just happened or some kind of litigation that just happened where they had said that there was a court case that had just happened or some kind of litigation that just happened where they were saying that you are supposed to own your digital copy of a game.

So if you want to take your digital copy and sell it to someone else, you should be allowed to. There was something that had passed some court that was like, well, you should be able to sell your thing. So it was like, well, games don't might come back. And then they also got a new CEO, it's one of the guys from Chewie. And they were saying that one of his plans

maybe was to turn GameStop into like a build up bear for computers because like all these big box type stores like Fry's Electronics and stuff are going out of business. And it's like well now there's nowhere that you can go and buy a graphics card. And if you're like a grand model going to buy a computer for your for your grandson, you can't just like go to the store and go, I want an Xbox with a computer. So it's like, what if there's a store that you can go to and go in a little

cubicle or a cubby and there's a train like a professional there who can teach you how to build a computer? It's like your kid. It's funny to me how circular all of this stuff is, dude. It's like, stores like that used to exist, and then they were pushed out by online retail like Dell and direct to consumer marketing. And then they kind of came back, I think, about like stores like CompUSA and two electric stat like fries and stuff like that. Well, CompUSA died years ago, but then like all of them die out because it becomes too expensive to have a shelf space. But now it sounds like, oh, wait, that's what people want again.

Like they want to bring that back. It's just like, we're running through the circle where nobody is learning how to build a computer and we're constantly trying to teach them. Yeah. Well, because what keeps happening is that everyone goes, oh, there's a need for this in the market. And so every store rushes to go have a computer building section. And then there's so diverse, like so spread out

and so spread thin that like the online market can surpass it. And like obviously the online market is always going to have an edge with like new stuff and just like being more accessible. But right now, if you think about it, there is no one place you can go to buy a graphics card except for maybe best buy. Yeah, I heard that.

I'm not the headger of a 90 year old woman sort of hunting around for a 30 nightie. She's like, oh, she really wants to, there's just no wishing to get it. It's interesting you bring this up. A couple of weeks ago, I rebuilt, or I bought a new streaming computer for my work set up here at home

because my old streaming computer was like six years old. And I was like, I don't need, right? It's a streaming computer. It doesn't need anything fancy. I don't need a crazy graphics card or anything. It's like, so I went, I tried to buy a computer. I went to, what I went to Best Buy. I went to Office Max. I went to Staples and Office Depot, I think. And I was shocked at how shitty the computers they had were. It's like, I saw they, one of them, I forget who it was. It was either Office of Max or Office of Depot. One of them had an alien wear that was like four or five years old

that they were charging $2,000 for. I was like, what the fuck is this? It had like, yeah, I was like, if you look at the specs, you're like, these are all old systems that they have. Like, none of these are new. I ended up having a buy one online, just because, like, not because I needed anything custom or fancy, just because everything

that you can find in a store is so old and shitty. And I think people don't know that, right? Like, you're talking about like an old grandma who wants to buy a computer. It's like, you think you go to the store, you think you're gonna buy something brand new, right? It's like, it's been sitting in there for years. Who knows how fucking long it's been in there?

It's garbage. I didn't even need like, I didn't even need anything crazy. I just needed a desktop. Yeah. Why didn't you just relegate your old PC down to the streaming PC slot? Well, what happened? It was like, I had replaced my gaming PC over the summer. And then it was my old gaming PC. I was using it as my stream setup. But like I said, it was like six years old. And whenever I would use VMIX, it was spiking my CPU usage

to 100%. I remember that, yeah. Yeah. So I ended up dropping frames. So I ended up, I just couldn't salvage it. If I'm like, I could swap out my graphics card. If that was a bottleneck, but since the CPU was bottleneck, you know, I just needed to chunk it and get something new.

I want, I want someone to take a screen cap. I know I could easily just do this by going to the first podcast we did at home, but take a screen cap of all of our webcams from that first podcast we did from work from home and that first started in a March, compared to what we look like now and like how our setups have changed,

and something like that. I think Gavin, though, you were using, or you used the Phantom. You're using your Phantom as the webcast. You're just gonna be the only one that looks the way better. It's way better than this one. But now I got this.

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Thanks honey for supporting today's episode and thank you for going to join honey dot com slash rooster. Where does it, where do we draw the line at using copyrighted sounds? Like is there a time limit where you two will like then flag it? Like is it under a certain amount of time or just if they hear any sort of ounce of something copyrighted. I think just try it and if we get a strike, then we know. Then you say oops, my bad. Eric's not here today, but if he was here, he'd go no. He's kidding me. That's his job. He wants you to do it.

That's such a job to say you can't. When you buy, because Cole, you were talking about how people wanted to be able to sell their digital game on. When you buy a game, do you buy, are you buying the game or are you just buying a license to use the game? What technically do you have in your... They were saying you bought the license to own and sell as you want. The same like you own a physical copy of a game. That's what they're trying to argue.

Because it also played in like when that started happening, when the game stopped and like the reseller started rising up, they started selling. Remember, they started like putting codes in the day one edition of games where it was like, oh, if you want this extra Mass Effect character, you have to have bought the new version. And what they're saying now is, oh, well, you also have to have the code to transfer that information over as well. I think when the Xbox One had that disastrous unveiling when they first came out, didn't they want to have a system like that? Remember they had, they wanted to have the system

always online so that you could validate, you could like take a disc and transfer it to a like a digital purchase and then trade it back in if you wanted to. Like remember they had that really complicated set up that Sony made fun of just like with someone with a disc handing it to someone else, they'd like look, it's much easier. Look we did that

already yeah yeah Xbox explained it all like engineers and Sony was like no we're gonna explain it like like they're like oh while you're at work I remember Sony because Sony explained the exact same thing where they're like well you're at work your game will download it so for you and if you're friend bought a game it'll download so if you want to buy it by you should buy now. It's already on your PlayStation. And it's like, you have to be connected already to have that happen. Like, you have to be online all the time for that to happen.

I feel there was, I want to say there was a game where you bought it, but the code that came with the game was the multiplayer. Like, it unlocked the multiplayer so that if you did sell it, that happened wouldn't be able to sell it with the multiplayer. That happened a lot, a lot of games doing that for a while. And that you years of horror called duty or something. Yeah. And then if you, so if you bought the game second hand, you could purchase multiplayer access from like an online store for like five or six bucks.

Yeah. So that kind of stopped people from buying one version and just sharing with their friends to play multiplayer together. So if you buy use like you would really put it was target was if you buy the game second hand at a reseller, then you still have to give money back to the developer. Yeah. Um, I bought I think 90% of my Xbox and Nintendo 64 games were pre-owned. Yeah. It was an awesome time.

Just rummaging, getting deals. Oh, we would have a setup where we would go by a game, try to beat it within two weeks to be able to return it. For the full-used refund and get the next game on the list. There was a beat in the two weeks, you were like, well, I'll never beat that game. Yeah, there was a period in time where I would do that too at Funco land.

Like where you had, I forget what it was like, you had, they had a ridiculous return policy which like you could play a game, even if you'd open it and then return it. It's like I tried this, so I tried to play and beat so many games that way. It always felt like it was cheating the system, but the guys who worked there was like,

eh, it's whatever, it doesn't matter. Like they were so laid back about it. Like it's fine. Just bring it back. I always wanted to try going in returning it and then immediately buying it back to reset that two week period. Just be like, man, nope. I want to buy that game again. The great thing about doing it with cartridge base games like N64 stuff is that you would have other people with a game on that. You would just like resume wherever they were. I'd like, alright, let me just erase this.

Yeah, I'd hop in and there'd be awful terrible names that you can't say here. And you're just like, well, that's not the name of these Pokemon, nope. There used to be years ago back in the early to mid-90s. There used to be a video game store here in Austin called Floppy Joe's and they would let you rent PC games. I'm gonna do air quotes, rent PC games where you would take it home and they would give you like back to the end when you would play PC games

there'd be like, in order, sometimes when you would want to launch the game, you would ask you like, look in the instruction manual on page four, what is the fifth word of the second sentence, you'd have to type it in that way, the game place. So they'd give you a Xerox copy of the manual or a Xerox copy of whatever you needed and the game discs and they'd be like,

don't copy these discs, wink, wink, you know. Yeah, I was, I never understood how that place stayed in business and then one day they were gone. I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, they're like, they got shut down. They got caught. They were making their own. Oh my god There's like that's so close. I'm sitting about themselves Lucy floppy Joe's I'm not about that place in forever Austin

Okay, here's the thread who remembers floppy Joe's on the Austin subreddit There's a really cool ability on steam where Trevor and I could share games that we've purchased with each other. So like, if he bought a game, I could play it on my computer. The problem is, is that I can't play any game on steam that he owns if he's playing another game on steam that he owns. So like if he's playing like GMOD or something like that, I can't play Fall Guys from his collection, essentially.

Oh. So it kind of takes away the purpose, especially when you have two people who are playing games all day. Yeah. So I've had to buy my own, essentially. Could you, you know, we both own it? Could you make a third steam account and like have a lot, a steam library computer that you both access and run everything off of independently.

They couldn't play games at the same time though. Would that be the same problem? Well, is that okay, I'm trying to think, I was trying to roll the scenarios like, okay, you can own what game to, or he just can continue to play World of Warcraft because that's not on steam. Oh, there you go, yeah.

He's been playing a lot of that lately. I see him on all the time. One time I walked into his office, this is like on the weekend at some point and he was just playing World of Warcraft. And I was like, what do you have to? He's like, I've been selling cookies for the last couple hours.

And I was like, yeah, you'd sell in cookies and World of Warcraft. He goes, yeah, people really like them. And their buy-knows, that's the cutest thing I've ever heard. And his character's name is Gland. And I made a joke that it was like Glandmaugh's cookies. It was just like, it should make a jail. Glandmaugh's cookies.

It was just the most precious thing. And I was like, I don't even know, you could do that in World of Warcraft. I thought it was just like going on missions. Oh, did any of y'all ever play Reimscape back in the day? I never played Reimscape now. Oh, there was so much like, I spent so much, much childhood fishing for lobsters

so I could go sell them at the house, like in the auction house in town. Then you go into town and there'd be girls who just like want to buy boyfriend. And they'd like, you go up and they'd just give you free stuff and they'd go, you're my boyfriend now. Okay. I don't know.

I don't know. Years ago, when I used to work at my old job back in, what year was this? It's sort of been like 99 or 2000. I remember I was working in the department I worked in. There weren't that many of us who were maybe six or seven of us that worked there. And one time I walked into one of my co-workers' cubicles, and he was working, I forget what he was working on, a spreadsheet, like boring office shit, right?

And I could hear, and he was working on his laptop, we had docs, and you would like, hook your laptop into the dock, and you would see your workstation when you were there, and you'd take it with you when you go home. So I walk into his cubicle, he's working on a spreadsheet, and the fans in his laptop are going crazy. I mean, it sounds like a blow dryer.

And I'm like, hey, is your laptop okay? Do you need a rebooted or something? It sounds like it's gonna take off. And he looks around, he's like, look at this, check this out. And he alt tabs, and he was running Asheron's call in the background. And I was like, what are you doing?

And he said, I wrote a macro so that my character and Nashron's call will buy apples, take them home, bake them into apple pies, then go back to the vendor and sell them. And so I'll sit here at work and all day long, my character say Nashron's call, buying apples, making pies and selling them back to the vendor. And every time he does it, I make like five silver for every pie. And I was like, that sounds incredibly boring, but super awesome at the same time. Yeah.

It's like your work and your character is also at work. Like from eight to five every day, my friend went and worked and his character worked making Apple pies all day long. But eight to five every day. God, I have so much money. Yeah, that's so much wealth. I did that.

Jesus. I know some people who like have the auction house open all day and the computer while they're doing exports and stuff. That helped me. Honestly, working or trying to gain the auction house in World of Warcraft taught me a lot about trading in the stock market in a weird way. Because I would try to find little niches to corner.

Like I remember I would normally always take mining as a profession and I would find one mineral and I would corner the market on it. So let's say titanium and I would go and I would buy, you know, I'd mine a bunch of titanium, I'd have a bunch of my bank, I'd look on the market and then I'd buy it all and then I'd increase the, I'd relist it at like double or triple the price.

Cause like now I have control of the entire commodity. And any time other people come who undercut you. Right, if they came in and tried to undercut, it's like I would just buy it and take it off the market because there's worth more to me to just like have it delisted so that I could sell all of my reserves. I made so much fucking money in wow doing that. Just like finding like a common thing

because every now and then people have a lot of gold. They're like, well, I need to see the complete request or to do one thing. It's like, they don't think anything about paying 30 gold for one piece of ore or some shit. You end up making so much money in the video game. It's great. I remember doing that.

I know I brought it up earlier, but the stock market on Animal Crossing, I remember, I felt like I was cheating the system because we luckily have such an awesome, wonderful community who's like, hey, my turnips are going for 600 per bell. So like, here's my dodo code if you want to come over and I'm like, hell yeah. I'm making like millions of bells because our community is so helpful. But like, man, that's a thing. I put that. I never intentionally stopped playing that game. I just like, dropped off randomly

for me. Yeah. So there's, I've definitely got a room full of rotten turnips. You probably have a lot of ants. I don't think I've logged in since May. You, you should log in. I don't, I imagine it's still going on, but just to log in to see winter because it's really pretty in that game, like everything covered in snow and all the trees and stuff like that. It's really nice. Lovely. Yeah. I'll probably just log in like once a season to see how the game changes. Do the update play updates. Yeah. I should get that into that. That was like, I think the reason I was able to survive the beginning of quarantine was that game It was a nice ease in yeah to

You know everyone had like a little project of the day. Yeah, it was nice to To start off with it. It was a way to ease from your physical real-world life to your digital online life It's like here play this game. This is your life for the next 18 months Yeah, it was funny because like that first week, my roommate, we were supposed to go we were all supposed to go on a big trip. And so a bunch of us just kind of used that time to do other things. Like we all just still took that time off from work, but went on like smaller trips. And I know she went and like just got an Airbnb and like the entire weekend just played animal crossing in the Airbnb.

So it's still a vacation and then another vacation within the vacation to play an Animal Crossing. Yeah, I mean, it's sometimes it's just a matter of being in a different place physically that just took, break up the monotony of things, even though you're still just staying inside and doing that. That's what I try to do to change gears when I'm done with the day of working.

Like, I'll either go for a walk, when I'm done, and like, I'll shut down my computer, go for a walk around the neighborhood, then come back and turn it back on to play games at night. Just for like that feeling of a commute, like, listen to a podcast or something, just like... I'm separation.

Feel that mental separation of, I'm no longer in work mode. I need to be in an inter like recreation mode. Yeah. Anyone just goes and sits in that car. I'll just go. Have you seen any of the videos of people recreating like travel things so they'll get their treadmill and they'll put those suit kit, they're suit because on the treadmill.

So it'll be like, it's coming off the conveyor belt at the airport and they'll like pick it up and then like stand on it going really slowly as if it's like a moving sidewalk. That's really good. Oh my God. That's really funny. Because they miss traveling so much. I love it.

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That's for sure. My eyes are getting weak to the point where I went outside the other day and I was looking at something far away and I was like, I haven't looked at something on the horizon far away from myself in probably weeks. So my eyes were just like, fiddy. Yeah, I'm used to focusing on something

that's like, you know, within two to ten feet away from me inside my house And so it was nice to change that up a little bit get the eye exercises I didn't I don't have it that bad. I don't think but I was I was taking up my bins or something and I just looked at the clouds and I was like, they're so high. That's so. It's like, it's like, you're high. Wow. That's like, wow. That reminds me a couple of weeks ago, the moon was really bright. I feel like there's been a couple, like, there's something, something that happened a

few weeks ago and the moon was really bright. And I was outside walking my dogs at night and I was like, wow, the moon looks really cool. It's really huge and bright and beautiful. I was staring at it for a bit. Then I came back inside and, you know, got ready for bed, got in bed to go to sleep and the moon light was coming through my window like lined up just perfectly on my pillow. And I was like, I've laid down and it was hitting me in the face like, God damn it, fucking moon. Like I went from loving it to like hanging it in the space of like two minutes. Oh man, just sleep. Drew would love this conversation.

Can't wait. No way to the billion year old rock. It was like it was reflecting the light just right. Like the moon and the sun are billions of years old. The sun is millions of miles away. The moon is hundreds of thousands of miles away and they lined up just right to mirror that light right into my eyes on my pillow. Yeah. Think of all the photons that don't bounce off the moon and hit you in the eyes.

Mm-hmm. Awesome. Fucking stupid. And I know you. Speaking of Drew, I sent him a video earlier today that he really loved. I sent it to Gavin right before we started the podcast too. I don't know if you all saw there was a military coup in the country of Myanmar that happened

yesterday. And I saw this video posted on Reddit earlier today, where this woman was doing aerobic exercises out on the streets in the capital of Myanmar. And she's just filming herself doing these aerobic exercises then she didn't realize it but behind her in the background the coup is happening like she filmed the exact moment that the military showed up to take the government over and to take everyone into custody and she's just like standing there doing her workout and right behind her it's like all this shit is going down and it's just fucking crazy to be that.

It happened literally like feet away from her. And she just noticed it. No, she has no idea. She's just like doing her work out. That's crazy. The entire time. Well, it's like the, it's bizarre.

It's always interesting when people are filming something, but they don't know it. It's like the 9-11, the guy who is like filming the drain or something like following the firefighters and he Captured the first plane and there's like footage of like this like a wedding video or something for That was being filmed right before that explosion in Beirut. Yeah, there was like a so it's so crazy just to see Just to see like the real life happening and then suddenly everything's changed because usually on the news

You just see the event from like whatever the most famous angle is. Right. Yeah, it's like, it's been the absolute proliferation of cameras. I think we've talked about this before, like 9-11, there isn't much footage of the first plane hit in the tower. Like I think you mentioned it. I think there's footage like there was a documentary crew following firefighters and

like maybe one other angle that might exist of it that people just happen to have cameras out and now it's like cameras aren't everywhere. I can't even think about with an episode of Black Box down recently about And it's the same thing where that plane hitting the water, there's only one close circuit feed of that plane going down and landing in the Hudson River. I'm, you know, by between Manhattan and New Jersey, it's like there's one camera that captured it. Like if that shit happened today, you, there'd be like a hundred pages on YouTube of videos from like different angles

of that, of that thing happening. And that didn't happen that long ago. Yeah, what was that like 2009? I think so. Yeah. Yeah, now there'd be like a hundred angles from within the planes alone. Yeah. I mean, just look at look at all the fucking social media footage from the capital insurrection a couple weeks ago. I mean, obviously a very different story.

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Very nice. It's like she insisted on continuing to do it there, no matter what was behind her. Me too. Just did it on purpose. It's not like it was loud. It's not like your gunshots or anything. It was just like those cars drive down the road. It's nothing crazy. You wouldn't turn around.

She's by a busy street. She'd run and realize that it was those specific cars or anything. Was it Bruce or Maiie whereway? He's doing a news story, but he's got like stuck on facial hair and then I know that. Like a meteor comes down. He's like, he's like here on the sea. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, because he, I think he was a newscaster and he was just like trying to get some big story right. He's like making shit happen. Yeah. That's a great movie. Mustache is hanging off. What a movie. We've been I feel like we've talked about that movie a lot lately. Haven't we?

Like in the last couple of podcasts, it's come up a few times. I actually had the urge that I just bought these. I wanted to just to buy a load of Jim Carrey movies physically because I feel like I've watched them like the mask, for example, I watch that. I don't know every three years or or something just because it's good, but I think I've just been rent to get every time or like get it for three bucks on Amazon or something. It's like why not just buy the damn thing if I'm going to keep watching it every three years for the rest of my life. Now it's free forever. We get your money back in like nine or ten years. Yeah, there you go.

We get your money back in like nine or 10 years. Yeah, there you go. Peter Hayes, like the true champion is already made a gif of, he just did my webcam, but I would like to see everyone's maybe at some point, but like my webcam going from the first podcast at home to today. Oh, look at you. Where is it? Well, in Discord in the podcast. It also kind of like it tells like the story of your life between now and then like I know clearly

I've stopped dying my hair. I've stopped wearing fake eyelashes Also just like that you just like just a Ikea black couch with a Cloth over it like the interchangeable cloth did not like a custom like it looks like your room now instead of like Yeah, I painted it. I put a shelf. I put my lighting. I got a new camera. How much lower down you are.

I let you slowly swam down over the weeks. I guess because my camera angle has changed. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. I mean, you and I have gotten more pro. You're not using that yet. You mic anymore.

Oh, and that's from, uh, I think this was the second one we did at home. Maybe. Yeah, that's super serious. Wait till again, I'll look as high as possible. Oh, wow. Yeah, Gavin, you're here so short. It's good. Chad became me.

The Chad was in you all along. Turns out with the true friends, but I don't know. Chad's we had a long way. There's some joke there. I don't know. The Chad's we made a long way. Brian, Brian Garh wrote a substack. You know, Brian Garh, we work with you.

Been on the podcast in the past for our viewers. He wrote a sub-stack that he posted this morning, or maybe it was late last night, about his experiences working at a shitty movie theater in Austin in the late 90s. And it was a really interesting read to me because I used to go to that theater all the fucking time. When I first moved to Austin, I lived like right across the street from it, so I would go there all the time. And if you've ever heard me tell the story about watching a movie and someone ordering a Domino's delivery pizza to the theater, like that was the theater that he wrote about. Oh my god. I think the either the first or second night I moved to Austin back in January and 98. I went to that theater

for the first time and I saw Jackie Brown there. And I remember, like you said, it was a shitty theater. It doesn't exist anymore. It was a super shitty theater. But it was so, I don't know, it was so awesome to me. I'll never forget going to watch Jackie Brown there because it was like the first time in my life I was an adult living out on my own. It was like one of those weird memories where it's like this is the start of me trying to make it on my own. You know, I'd dropped out of college. Like before then it's like I'd live with my parents and I'd gone to college and kind of done what other people wanted to do. But I'd moved to Austin on my own and was like as an adult it's like I'm gonna go watch a movie. You know, I made that

decision. It's weird that it stands out like that. And it's like, I'm gonna go watch Jackie Brown. And to this day, like I still remember everything about that trip to the theater. And even though I was like thinking like, this theater is super shitty, but this is an awesome experience. I'm happy that I'm here. What was the first movie you saw at a cinema, a movie theater?

The first movie I saw at a cinema movie theater. The first movie I saw at a cinema I believe was ET. Whoa. Interesting. I think I was Aladdin. I thought that was Aladdin. What year was Aladdin 92? Some of that. ET was 82. So I got you beat by 10 years.

82. No, decade on me. Why do I think it was 89? Oh, I think Lion King. Was that naive for? Yeah, would have been 94 because I think I would have been three. My brother would have been one. No, I would have been.

Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Mine was Aladdin the Will Smith one. What was your spark, bro? It must have been some Disney movie. I don't think I remember, but the first movie I remember vividly seeing in theaters is Titanic because I remember I was sitting next to my dad and I was I think like eight or something

at the time. I don't remember what year Titanic came out. I think 90 and okay, so I would have been 10. And I remember being so embarrassed because there's boobs on screen. And I'm like my father is looking at someone else's boobs that don't belong to my mom. This is weird. And I remember just like cringing in the theater the whole time. It was it was 97 by the way you were you were closer Okay, so I was I was eight. Yeah, okay What about the bit where they were railing each other in the car? Yeah, I mean it just gets progressively worse

I saw I saw Titanic at The Austin film what what is now the Austin film studio's theater Kind of over there by Highland Mall. What do they call it? What do they call it the Marquesa the Marquesa theater? Over there like that used to be a Regular theater that they would show movies. Yeah, I saw I saw Titanic in there It's long. It's a long, massive movie. It's a long movie.

Who did? Yeah, God, that was 97. It's so fucking long ago. I just remember it always took two VHSs. Yep. Gee. Do you remember, yeah, this will be really impressive if you remember Cole, do you remember where

the first one ended and where the second one picked up? No. I think if I remember correctly, it's like right as the icebergs. It's like down the. It's like just as the iceberg is it's either that like when the iceberg scrapes it or when like it has already started sinking. It's one of the two. Because I'm pretty sure it doesn't hit the iceberg until about a normal movie's length. I think it's like 90 minutes when it scratches something like that. If normal movie's length. I think it's like 90 minutes when it crashes something like that. If anyone in chat remembers. Yeah, I wonder if that movie would have made more money if it was a two-part. Oh, has there ever been a movie that like,

I guess like Infinity War and Endgame are kind of a two-parter movie, right? Yeah, I mean, but I mean, Lord of the Rings is a three-parter. True. Yeah. Yeah, the hobbits like the the middle one ends in the middle of a dragon fight. But also like you can't really like stay tuned to see what happens in part two of Titanic like. Yeah, like what later, it's like, previously I said it. I'm trying to find, I'm trying to find exactly when it happens. And I see someone here, there's this discussion on Reddit about switching the tapes. And someone wrote, the second tape starts with Rose's fiance slapping the crap out of

her. Oh, yeah. I think that was after the ice hat. Is it? Oh, okay. Was that Billy Zane? Yeah. So what else wrote? I only watched the first tape for titties.

Ah, titties on the first tape. I believe you'll get your headline, Mr. Imzay. Is May. Someone just wrote that in chat. When they talk about the ship syncing and he's going to get his headline in the paper because you want to headline about the Titanic. The captain's the guy from Lord of the Rings, isn't it? It's the...

Oh, it came. Yeah, King Theodron. Yeah. I never made the connection to it right now. I typed in Titanic Captain and it brought up the real dude. Boo. Not you Edward Smith, the movie one. No one cares about the real people.

But it is. Oh yeah, he's the Rohan Captain or Rohan King. He's the Captain of Rohan. He's the guy who's the king but a captain of a country. He's the guy who gandalf like bitch slapped Sauron out of. Yeah. Oh not Sauron. Sauraman. Yeah,. Oh, not Sauron. Sauraman. Yeah.

Sauraman. I don't know. Sauraman. Yeah. And there's a little creeper guy who's hanging out like, yeah, do it. Grimoire Tom. Yeah. I always...

I thought you were talking about Victor Garber for a bit. I, because he wasn't the captain. Yeah. He was like the nice guy. He was also in alias. If anyone ever watched alias. This episode of the RESTRETE Podcast is brought to you by Audible. Audible is the leading provider of spoken word,

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There's got to be. It's weird what movies came out in 4K, and which ones didn't. When you think they're really like, or anything, Sean, film could be in 4K. If it was 35, if people want to go to the trouble of re-scanning it, I guess. Yeah, it's weird to think that Laura, the rings was four years after Titanic. So that would have been... Yeah, maybe so. Because like, as Laura The Rings feels like a childhood movie, like when everyone's elementary school, like Laura The Rings, yeah, Titanic feels like a childhood movie.

Laura The Rings feels like it was like older. Yeah. And he of you read the Laura The Rings books, or if you all just seen the movies. Just the movies for me. Just movies for me. The way the book says spoiler for the books, by the way, spoiler for 50 years, 70 year old books. There was, I really like, there's one part of the ending in the books that they didn't

film that I really like. Probably the biggest departure in my opinion from the books and the movies. In the books, Saruman doesn't die. He's spared. And he's like banished. They cast him out from his tower. Was it Yisildor? Oh, fuck.

Barador and Eisenkaard. The cast him out from Eisenkaard. Eisenkaard. He's in the Hobart. He's in God. And then after the hobbits destroy the ring, you know, in Mountain Doom, they leave, and they go back to the shire, but when they return to the shire,

they discover that Saruman and Grimo-Wormtong have taken over the shire, and they've enslaved all of the hobbits, and they've destroyed the shire. So the hobbits have to fight and try to remove Saruman and Grimo-Wormtong from power and try to remove Saramana Grimoire Mtong from power and try to free the shire. And they do.

This is a battle off to the ring. Right, there is. And that's the final battle in the book is trying to get Saramana out of the shire. So they managed to do it, but the shire's never the same. It's pretty much tainted. And like everyone's been through this horrible experience. So the whole point of the book that is missed in the movie for the most part is that you

can't go back home. Like these experiences have changed the entire world. And even all of the hobbits, as far away as they were from all the action, are still touched by this awful tragedy. I like that. That's a better ending because like the hobbits are like, that's not our problem. Like Sauron, Sauron, the dragon. That's not better ending because like the hobbits are like, that's not our problem. Like, saran, saramon, the dragon. No, that's not our problem.

We just want to party every day. Like we're all on the phone over here. So no, we're good. We're good. But like to actually have repercussions and cold like damage from neglecting what needs to be done. Right. And they can't go back either because they made the decisions and neglect it.

They can't go back either. Yeah. I like that. Yeah. It's it's it's it's not like it's a huge part of the book. It's not like the it's a battle that goes on forever and it's almost like a footnote, but it's like, oh yeah,, I don't think so. So it's all like Tolkien fanboys are gonna like kill me because I'm gonna get it next to correct. But essentially like I know the ballrog, Saron, Gandalf, they're all the same race of people. Like they're all with the. Yeah. But God what is they called? I don't remember right.

I know what you're talking about, but I can't remember it. I'm zero help. They're all like angel type rings. So essentially, they send over all the wizards like Gandalf Sauron, if you see in the Hobbit, Radagast, the Brown, and they send over two blue wizards. And so Saurron Mon gets corrupt, Radogas doesn't really do anything. Gandalf's the only one who's doing the job

of trying to stop Sarron from growing to power. And there's just a two blue wizards who show up and their job was to go stop them in from the East from helping Sarron, but that's who has the elephants there at the end of the return of the king. Right, so they don't do anything Right. So they don't do anything. No, they don't do anything.

So I'm like, why didn't you even forget? It's like, oh yeah, there's the five wizards that gandalf the gray, Saram on the white, Radagast the brown, and two unnamed blue wizards who fuck off immediately and fail at their job. I think you should start a podcast call

where you like explain law from different things and it's called next to correct. Next to correct. It's brilliant, I prefer that. That's genius. So it's Gandalf like his actual physical appearance as some old dude. Is that just like an appearance that he chose then?

Like he doesn't, if he's just like a spiritual angel thing from another dimension or another land. What does what does he actually have a physical appearance? I get his original form It's been a while. I don't remember. I'm trying to like Because Gandalf is just the name because because every race has like a different name from don't they like he's Mithrendi maybe He says like a different name from, don't they? Like he's... Mithraindu.

Maybe he's like... Maybe he's like... The dwarves have a name for him as well. Maybe he's like the agents from the Matrix where he could just invade someone's body. And he's... It's the myr and the valar. That's it.

Right. Cause he's a myr. I never understood the agents. So like the agents could just hop from body to body. They could just be whoever they want. They just take over that person. Right. But whenever they're fighting and they run out of ammo,

they just start fist-firing. Why not just generate a new gun, just like retake over that body and stuff. Every time they get a new body, they have a new fully loaded gun. Yeah, I understand. Can why you've punched and shit. Right, use the system to make more ammo. It's crazy to be a programmer in the simulation.

Oh, here's a bazooka from my anus. I also find a bunch of people. I also feel so awful for the human beings that just like they get their body invaded by one of the agents and then they get killed and like that that's it their life is done like they're just are done with this body here's a new one. Yeah, it's like the agent that shoots at neo and he does the crazy cool bullet dodge and then Triti just shoots him in the head. Then it's just some man on the floor like some police officer with a bullet hole in his head. Yep. Depressing. like some police officer with a bullet hole it is. Yep, depressing. I always say that I really want to rewatch those.

I need to rewatch all three of those. I've got to try them again. It's been a while. I guess the fourth movie's coming out soon, right? Are they done filming that? Wait, it's it's it's already soon. Like I thought it would they just announced that it was starting production release date is scheduled

for December of this year. Wow. I applied to be. It's so weird. I think it was pre-COVID, but I applied to be an extra in that movie. They didn't contact. That's your day.

Maybe you'll get that after Judge Judy. Oh, we'll see. I was like, I'm so distressed. I was like, I want to do it. I think they were filming the call for extras was in San Francisco. I was like, I don't care. I'll do it. I'll go out there to San Francisco. I was like, I don't care. I'll do it.

I'll go out there to San Francisco, figure it out if they cast me as an extra, but they didn't. Would you literally do anything as an extra of that movie? Oh, yeah. I'd be, whatever. As long as I was in the Matrix, that'd be fucking awesome. What if you were just down like a manhole with like 60 people jizzing on you?

Sure. And then they drop horse shit on me. Fine. Whatever. You feel like, yeah, I'm in the matrix. That's me. For ever being known as that guy. Yeah. I'm the, I'm the, I'm the jizz horse shit guy. That's a notable, that's a notable role. I always, so it was something that's always made me curious about movies and the way they cast movies, is when they have a character

that's like supposed to be a really ugly character in the movie and like that's, has like, impact on the storyline and stuff like that. And I wonder how insulting it is for someone to get cast as like the ugly character. Like you're supposed to be the ugly friend in this scenario and like, you're perfect for it. It's mostly makeup, right?

Not always. Sometimes it's just they could save a lot of money on makeup if they cast me as that. Yeah. Yeah. Because I feel like there's like every article in the online's like you will believe how hot this side character in the movie was. And it's like, or like when they make really beautiful. What's her name? Charlize Theron. Um, how they made her like hideous for that movie monster. Yeah, monster.

Yeah. Um, like that was impressive. There was all make up. I'm going to circle this conversation back a little bit. There's a, if you remember in the two towers, there's an extra who's standing at the Battle of Helmsdeep, who's missing an eye, and he turns to look at the camera, and you see him standing on the wall. It's like an older man, just showing that they have

feeble older men guarding Helmsdeep. When I rewatched the trilogy recently, and I was watching some of the bonus footage and they talked about that extra particular about how self-conscious he was about the fact that he was missing it. I guess he had showed up to the casting call wearing an eye patch and they asked if they could see him without the eye patch and he showed them. And I guess he was really self-conscious about it and they were like, if you're comfortable, we'd like to cast you up there with no eyepatch and have you do this scene.

And I guess he was really hesitant to do it. And they were like, that's fine if you don't want to. They didn't pressure him, but that Yvette he came around and decided to do it. And then afterwards, he was super happy he did it because it made him feel more confident about it. Being able to show it, I guess it's something you'd had for a long time was always hiding yet.

And he thought people would think it was gross. But when I guess he saw the final product, he was like, he felt better about the fact that he had that, he had no eye there. But that's to the to your point, like get people getting cast for a very specific reason. I also feel like movie ugly and real life ugly are very different. They are very different. And as someone here, Jasper T1, 2, 7, and Chad said, there's always that we were trying to in the 2000s when Hollywood thought wearing glasses made you ugly and that is so true. That was like every like glow up moment in

the teen movie. It's like the other teen movie. Yeah, it's like the hair falls down and the glasses comes off at the same time. Listen, as a glass is where they still do this, they're still guilty of this. This is not something that's gone away. Like in the most recent episode of WandaVision, they bring together all of these scientists who need to figure stuff out and they're all talking in the back of a van.

And it's like, they have this one female astrophysicist. And it's like, oh, you can tell she's smart because she's wearing glasses. Like, that's not a line they have. But it's like, they clearly put glasses on her. It's like, yeah, I'm not buying this like oh, yeah, she's the nerd. She's got glasses on When did you think it be a different story if a clock Kent didn't wear glasses, but Superman did? Dude Clark Kent was so much hotter with the glasses and in Superman mode that's my opinion Was it?

Christopher Reeve Clockhead? Dean Kane. Oh, Dean Kane. Dean Kane Clockhead? Dude, I'm all about that fitted button of shirt rolled down so you see just like that upper part of the arm. Glasses. Chef's kiss, baby.

But that Superman tidy whitey suit. I always thought it was bullshit that people would fall for that disguise of just he's wearing glasses, but that was a show. It was like 10 years ago, it was an English show called Ashes to Ashes where the bad guy is like a dream clown. And then this is other character of like the main characters dad, the whole movie. And the dad's wearing glasses, spoiler for ashes to ashes if you haven't seen it. But the dad is the clown, and at the end there's the reveal where he takes off his glasses, and then you're like,

oh, I gotta say, and then the face paint of the clown morphs onto his face. And I felt like such a fricking idiot that I didn't realize it's the same person. And the extra interesting thing is that I worked on it like right as that reveal happens, there's a massive car bomb that goes off and I filmed it in slow-mo. And I saw the actor playing the dad on set. And later on in the day, I saw the clown. So even I was working on it and I didn't even realize that they were the same actor because I guess he just pissed off, got changed

into clown makeup and came back and I thought someone else can't get me in the clown actor in the show. Hey, it has to be. The entire show without realizing it's the same guy. I can't believe I was able to work on the final episode of a show and not have it spoiled for me. It was funny. Well, you even feel like that's like not one of the, the big, was it TikTok trends is or Instagram where it's like, this is how everyone else sees you and you press the button and it flips the camera. Yeah. So it does like basically

the inverse because when you look at yourself in selfie mode, you're, it's mirrored. So you're like, if you go like this into your camera, your head will go the same way. And so they do the thing where they inverse the image. So you're seeing like, the text would be the right way on the screen. But you're not used to seeing yourself like that because when you look at a mirror at your iPhone,

it's reversed. Any time you ever see yourself, it's reversed. Yeah, except now I've gotten very nervous seeing myself for what I actually am on the podcast. I've got both. I've got inverse right here and correct right here. They're like right next to each other. What?

That's smart. I have a, I've all reversed because if I want to point that way, I don't want to have to do the brain gymnastics. Oh, everything for me is how you guys are sitting in. So I always have to think for a second. I'm just like, I got a point to my door. Okay, in that way. When it's funny, because you could turn and see your door.

You got my door. If I'm not thinking of it. Like, but you're like, what? No, where in my room is what? What I was, what I was, what I was remembered is my parasite posters here in the night rakers on this side. So like, I just remember where they are So it's like if I need a point like in that I know based on the posters behind me. Yeah, sometimes you'll see if I'm like

Oh, I'm looking at myself and I need to oh I need to fix my hair. I'll be like Which side is it? Okay, that's what I guess I've got both because my camera screen is It's flipped but then my thing is the other way on my monitor. I didn't know you could do that. Shoke, no, I'm not gonna mess with it during the podcast. I'll check it out after. But yeah, it's a rude awakening for people who are not used to it

because it just like your face seems off. That way. I look at myself for hours a day, so I'm used to it. How much of your nose can you see? I think you've asked this question before because I think we realized yours was a little more than ours like passively or like here. If you look straight ahead at your body, can you see your nose? Here. A little bit. Only if I really think about it, but if I'm not thinking about it, I can't see it. Isn't your brain function in a way where it teaches your eyes not to see your nose?

Yeah, it ignores it. I thought it sees it, but it processes it out because it's not the whole thing with VR that if they put a nose in the VR, you feel a little safer. What do you mean? Like if you don't have the, like if they don't have the virtual nose and you get sick and throw up all the time. But if there is, there you're like, I'm not gonna throw up because there's a nose in here. You guys want to try it?

You guys want to try it? My nose was keeping me from vomiting. Yep. Do you guys have like a or all the draw or something nearby? Any sort of long straight, even your finger would work actually for this. A long straight? Long straight? Like a pen or a apple?

That might be a little too long. Too long? So basically you're supposed to hold something at the tip of your nose like this. You could do it with your finger, if you want me to show it that way. And go line up with your camera so your eyes are showing. You're supposed to look at the tip of your finger. And apparently, there's some people whose eye will just

start to wander after looking at it. Is that a stigmatism? I don't think so. Try to go a little higher, actually, Cole. I will just start to wander after looking at it. Is that a stigmatism? I don't think so. Try to go a little higher, actually, Cole. What? Go higher with it, like you're supposed to look. I can't look that eye. How too high?

It's still to just head up. Ow! No one can look that eye. Ugh. Ah. Ah! Ow! That hurts my head. Yeah. Oh That's my head yeah weak 45 of quarantine No more sourdough bread and animal crossing No, I'm seeing if we have some type of fucked up eyes

We're surviving the coup and we're buying GameStopstock to destabilize the stock market. I was playing a game. Have you heard of it? It's cool. I expect you to die. It's like a VR. Oh, I've heard of it. I never played it.

But yeah, it sounds like a James Bond escape. Yeah. It's, you're a spy. You'd have to figure out your level. It's pretty fun. It's like a just spy you have to like figure out each level. It's pretty fun It's like I just did a nice little puzzle game But it's like it's a lot of stuff where it's like oh, I wonder if I wonder if they've programmed in this thing Because you know, it's like you can interact with stuff

So like you could put a cigar in your mouth and light it But then you have to remember that it's there. There was one that's one level where you have to like Deliver a document to someone by putting it in like a pneumatic tube. But I'd let a cigar put it in my mouth, so I like picked up the, it was like a pardon of some sort. And I put it in the tube, but I ran it across my, I bumped it on my cigar and it burned and I sent it, I sent it to a on fire

and she was like, can't believe you burned the pardon and she sent back a grenade and it blew me up and I was like, well, there's a lot of stuff that you could do at this game that you wouldn't expect. Oh, that's crazy. And I think they just announced a sequel, so I'm excited for that. Nice. Fun.

I've just sat my VR again. I think it's a- I did do that. It's fun. I need a- No, I still haven't played Half-Life Alex. I need to get- Oh, shit.

You're- it's so good. Yeah. It's amazing. It's a huge it's so good. Yeah, it's amazing. It's space you need. You can do it, sitting down for some, if you don't want to move around. I played the whole of Half-Life Alex in this room,

where I can touch both desks from the middle, but it was enough. It was probably like, I wouldn't want to be in a room any smaller, but I played it all in here and it was fine. I got some room, I wouldn't want to be in a room any smaller, but I played it all in here and it was fine. I got some room. I only summed my wall light twice. My room might be a little too snug for it. I'll go all the way back here. Coffee table.

Whoa! Gosh, you're so far away! Gosh, can you hear us? We're back here! Guys, come back! When I was wearing a wireless headphones. On the bright side, you can hear... You got a good look at my beacon closure, though. Look at that. Welcome to your store.

I also have a beacon closure, although I'm wearing the older version. So we came out with a new blue version of this one because people really like this one. So I actually, I don't have the blue one. I like the blue one better. So Gus, I'm jealous. Looks so good. Deb. That's a nice blue. Deb. Yeah. We had some new beacon cloth stuff come out in the store. Really snazzy stuff. I think it just came out. Yeah, I just got this shirt on Friday, I think. I think it just hit the

store. Yeah. Oh no, no, it came out on Thursday because we were playing D&D. Oh right, right, yeah. So I got to just go to Thursday. You boy. I read the fucking weirdest article ever the other day and I saved it because I wanted to talk about it today. I'm gonna read you the headline here. Target, oh hold on, Jesus.

So weird. It's like a really loud. Oh. Okay, I'm gonna read the headline. Target joins Costco in dropping coconut milk brand over forced monkey labor allegations. Huh? What?

I did read about that. Yep. I guess we're just thing ever. Yeah, there's this allegation that this company that produces coconut milk was forcing monkeys to gather or harvest the coconuts for them. That way they could make their coconut milk. They deny the allegations, but they could make their coconut milk. They deny the allegations, but it's a weird thing to think about that was a company using monkeys to do work. Like, from an ethical standpoint, are you would you be okay with that? Like, I think that's what's there.

It's what's there. That's true. Well, that was a whole ad campaign in the UK in the 90s and maybe the 80s where monkeys were like the mascot of PG tips tea. It was like a family of chimps. Mm-hmm. Is that the same? I guess they weren't there like picking the tea Cuz like yeah, you what you don't I'm sure they have brands of like stuff that like horses helped make Well think about like did you know cows or horses used to plow fields, right?

Yeah. You would use animals for that, but it's not like at an industrialized capacity. It's like, if you use, they pay the monkeys. I don't know. That's why we had the Clydesdale's. Obviously, I don't use them anymore, but that was the whole thing is Budweiser Clistails would transport the beer around. Yeah, like who determines when it's unethical? What are like, what about Figs?

What about Figs? I don't tell you, isn't that like an insect? It's a wasp, but they don't like, they don't like, what? What? Yeah, what's a Figs? Figs are fertilized by wasps. Oh, for some reason I thought you meant they are actual wasps. What's the real taste?

The wasps in there. Gets absorbed in there. Yeah. That's why they're not vegan. So question about that then. So I've never been stung by a wasp or a beer, anything like that. But I've eaten figs. You're a mean. So does this mean that I'm notung by a wasp or a beer, anything like that. But I've eaten figs.

You're a mean. So does this mean that I'm not allergic to a wasp sting if I could eat a fig? Well, it's not like a whole wasp, it's just like wasp goo. Yeah. It's like digested. I also guess the sting is different than that. The venom, the trying to venom thing. Yeah.

Okay, never mind. I thought I was going to be like, oh, few. Now I know I'm not allergic. I've built up an immunity in a wasps things. I've eaten so many wasps. Yeah, it's weird, but I don't think anyone's forcing the wasps inside, gets in that fake. Gellik, how are they forcing the monkeys to work?

I dude, I don't work there, I don't know. I need answers, Gus. And also, they deny it, so. Yeah. Who knows, I don't work there, I don't know. I can't, I need answers, Gus. And also they deny it, so. Yeah. Who knows, I don't know. But what about the allegations are saying, like, one banana, two bananas, how many, what's the pay?

One banana, two banana, three banana, four. Four. Yeah. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Gmail wasp. Yeah. Female wasp.

How so is it the. So they lay this is eggs within it and the eggs pop out. But it's like the email flowers and female wasps and male flowers. You see, when a fig loves a wasp, they decide to get together and they make a baby. Oh, someone in hot pocket 36 says that they can eat figs, but they're highly allergic to wasps.

Oh wow, okay. There you go. Yeah, thank you. Well, I love to be scared another day. Quite a lot. They were not there. Yeah, every time I wasps. I still wonder how does it happen like how did how do the monkeys helped? They go up in the tree and get the coconut down That's that's the allegation is that they're their harvest in the coconut Mario party mini game about that so Maybe that's what I got the idea You have to flip the monkey to the other side of the was a cook and that's gonna hit him on the head.

Don't make Mario party on ethical now too. I'm not gonna want to make Mario party on ethical. Have you played that game? There's so much on. Yeah, yeah. Just, yeah, that game is so fun. I love Mario party. All right, well, it's about time to wrap up.

Before we go, I do want to mention something though. We're going to have a show this Friday on the fifth. It's called our first and last episode to be hosted by Torian Crawford when we're doing live streams. It shows every Friday at 5 p.m. in honor of Black History Month. And the first one kicks off this week Friday at 5 p.m. I can say it's called our first last episode hosted by Torian Crawford, talking about live pop culture, entertainment,

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I made a quarter of a screw. It's not bad. Yeah, I didn't make any screws. I'll make a screw later tonight. Whoa. Wait, you're a real man. You're a real man. I can't stop.

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