Rooster Teeth Podcast - Geoff the Hermit - #447

Episode Date: August 4, 2017

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And then this week you caught me off guard, beloved personality. I've been coming up with excuses for six years. And you finally caught me off guard. Beloved personality. I've been coming up with excuses for six years. And you finally caught me off guard and I was like, ah, what was it? What was what? What was it that made it work? Just you weren't paying attention? I just wasn't paying attention. I didn't make like a specific play.

No, you texted me something nice and I said thanks and then I said affirmative to something else in the conversation and I didn't realize you would snuck a podcast asking there as well. Yeah, and then I felt like I can't say no. Cause I had your role of responses. It's like you were responding to one thing after another and then just went in for the kill.

Broke my streak. Let's add to it at some point, right? I guess. Well, I mean, you would be bent on off topic. You have your own podcast. Not very often. What's that? I try not to be on it very often.

Why? Ah! Okay. So, I like to, I don't like to listen to me, I don't know why anybody else would, but I don't, not enough shit happens from week to week in my life to talk about on a podcast. No, you have to build up a lot of life experience.

And if on recording for 15 hours a week in fucking Let's Play's anyway, whatever, whatever small thing happens to me at a fucking fast food restaurant or when I get my dick stuck in something, whatever, I've already covered it like two or three times by the time the podcast comes out. So I just like, I just feel like I'm taking up space when I'm on a podcast two or three weeks in a row. So I try to do it like every three to five weeks. That's it, three to five weeks. That's my goal.

Build something up. Off topic podcast, yeah. Yeah, it's like, and then I have a new rule too, because that fucking podcast goes for like a year and a half. What is that you're with? That's like a stamina thing. You should watch. Have you ever seen the crew

after you guys finished that podcast? No, they look fucking miserable. Yeah, well, I look miserable. I look miserable about an hour and 45 minutes in. So I have a new rule, whereas as soon as I'm out of juice, like I'm bored or like I run out of stuff to say, or like I just have hit the Michael Wall or whatever it is. I just, I just object.

And I'm like, all right, I'm bored. I walk out and I just walk out mid podcast. I noticed that last week, because I came in with the cheddar biscuits and you were there, and then I came back later to get another one and you were like, long gone. Yeah, no, I went back to my office to answer emails. Call that Irish exit. Is that how you do it? Is that what it's called?

Yeah, it's like, I literally go, all right, I'm bored now. No, that's Irish exit is where you're at a party. And you're like, I've done enough here. My job here is done. And then you just scoot. You take the whisky and you go, you're like skirmish.

You're just like I'm done. You don't tell anybody. It's actually a lot of people kind of prefer it to make an Irish exit. I'm sure it's racist, but Irish people are white, so that's fine. Yeah, those are my people. You're probably part Irish, right?

So you can say it. I'm probably part Irish. Yeah, I am definitely. My dad's side, I'm like almost entirely Irish. I was gonna go to Notre Dame my whole life and then got in and we couldn't afford it. So came to UT. It's just like how I'm from Alabama,

so I can say stuff like redneck please. No one can say no. So the other thing to you guys thinking about is that we have also, we worked together 12 hours a day? Plot in the early years. We're going back. In the early years maybe 18 hours.

7 a.m. to... 2 a.m. Sometimes. Every day. Yeah. Well, maybe not every day, but 18 hours, 7 a.m. to 2 a.m. sometimes every day. Yeah, three or four, well, maybe not every day, but probably five days a week. Yeah, it is entirely possible, and you might be the only person in my life who's like this. It is entirely possible that I have had

every conversation with you. Yes, like every possible. Can you think I stopped coming on the fucking channel? I know what I'm saying is like, we have had every possible conversation at this. Yeah. If we were married, we would have to get a piece just because we would just be out.

It'd be that like old couple that just sits and like fucking, there's a piece. We just do this. We just do this at Golden Coral and just has the fucking nothing to say. What used to be like the newspaper, the breakfast and that's all you'd get. Well, I did actually, last week,

I did say something that I didn't know was new information. I started talking about the post show and it kind of blew up and listen before we talk about this. Hey hold on a second. Shut up! There you go. Fuck. I love it. I was back around here.

You should have mom to patrol the podcast more often. I had to yell at those people like one time, I fucking blew my voice out yelling at those fuckers. I just did it's disgusting. What could possibly lack respect? What's so funny? Hey, what's so funny? What's the goddamn important over by the fucking funnions? That you guys know what it was in the world for.

Christ. But last week on the post show, I talked, I made a reference to the time that Jack Patillo got fired. I want to see him. He got fired. We like to say. Yeah, the first time he got fired. I want to start me got fired, we like this. Yeah, the first time we got fired. So Jack wanted to write a journal entry about it. I said, listen, we set it on the podcast.

Why don't you come talk about the podcast guys. I think it's always weird to address something in a different format than it initially came up because then people just don't see it or whatever. Also, can I further process this by saying this is such a non-evident? Yeah, that's the only two. It's like for somebody who's gonna be probably new information,

but for us, this is nine years old. Yeah, accounting. It's like Jack is one of the most important people at the company created extra life. Does all our charitable work? Obviously, a huge part of achievement hunter and starting that, kissing your ass here a little bit.

Thank you. But it's like, we wouldn't bring up something and joke about it if there was actually a problem. But there was a problem way, way, way back. And it was when achievement hunter very first started. Best hugger and Rupert Heath, I don't know what that was. Are you? According to, not footage.

What game is that we put, I don't know, yes. You're a nice guy. According to that. Yeah, this is like your wife better than you. I'm just gonna throw that out there. I totally understand. 100% understand that. Yeah, this is like your wife better than you. I'm just gonna throw that out there. I totally understand that. 100% understand that. Yeah, this is something. And you're dead.

Bernie, you thought this was like kind of out there already. I think less than 10 people know the story behind this. But we talked about like your porn career and stuff. Yeah, I mean, that's about going to LA. Never said what. We just never talked about why you went to LA. Yeah. Well, do you, do you just want to,

because there's like a fucking people are talking about it, you're getting hit up on social media. Right. It's annoying you because you just want to because there's like a okay, people are talking about it. You're getting hit up on social right. It's annoying. Yeah. Yeah. So so far in the past for you. Yeah. I was going to steal your thunder. Please tell us the story about the story. Oh, so I was sitting in my desk yesterday and all of a sudden my Twitter started blowing up and it was like, uh, hey, what like, how can you got fired? How do you almost destroy rooster she? Then I'm like, wait, what? And then I had to figure out what happened and then I traced it back to Bernie talking about me getting fired. First big dumb mouth. Yeah. And then I had to figure out what happened and then I traced it back to Bernie talking about me getting fired.

Bernie's big dumb mouth. Yeah, and uh, so what happened to you back then? So what happened to you back then? We're about, what, less than a year into achievement hunter, I would say. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I was like, it was five months in. Yeah, I'd say closer like nine months in. But anyway, we were working on achievement or stuff. It was just Jeff and I at that point. And we had been working with companies out there

and we had received like for one of the early times ever, we received some stuff probably the first time ever. Yeah, we had early access to some software, to some software and it was on a piece of hardware that I had in my possession. And so at that point, I was still working at home every now and then I would bring up the office kind of back and forth. Well, I'd like to point out this was a time

in achievement hunter where we all shared computers and you and I would bring up the office back and forth. Well, I'd like to point out, this was a time in Achievement Hunter where we all shared computers, and you would have to wait until people were done producing red versus blue or GameStop commercials or whatever it was. Like this was very much Achievement Hunter was a Knights and Weekends type production, and we would literally have to borrow computers when other people weren't using them.

Like it was a time when everybody in the company didn't have a computer. We had production computers. Yeah, I think so. I was using Matt's machine. It was oftentimes easier for you to go home and film at home at your set up there than to ask Nathan, please don't animate that thing

for episode 92 because Jack needs to make a guide in Dead Space. I wanna jump in here a little bit. So there was a discussion. This piece of hardware was gonna change locations and it wasn't an actual discussion and this where I was part of it and I was like, I wasn't super happy about it. But I was like, okay,

go ahead and let's change locations for this piece of hardware. Yeah. And so, yeah, then I should put it out too. This was like literally, it was the main five Nathan and me. That was it. There were there were seven of us in that office at that point. That was pre-branded and pre-monstered. It made five. You mean, Joel Jason. That was Joel. Yeah. That was that one Jason was there. So anyway, so I had it with me in my car and I actually went and saw a movie that night. What was the movie?

Yeah, please. I know the movie was the darkest movie I've ever seen in my life, I can't remember what it was. I honestly forget what it was something at the Draft House downtown. Yeah. And you're getting anxiety, you even talk. I get anxiety, I'm telling that. And we're getting anxiety, he's even talking about the little, I get anxiety,

he's talking about it. And so anyway, towards the end of the movie, my father starts calling me and I'm like, that's weird, okay. And then he keeps calling over and over again. So I grabbed my phone and go out and he's like,

hey, the police are next to your car. You need to get over there right now. I'm like, oh God. And so I leave, I run up the street and sure enough, the driver's side window of my car had been shattered and the bag that had the hardware in it was not there anymore.

Right. And that was just like, That's a piece of new information for me, by the way. I didn't know it was in a bag. Okay. I didn't know that. And so anyway, and so my heart's sinking. I'm just like, oh my God, oh my God.

I'm like, I mean, I'm not an employee of Rupert either at this point. I'm just like part-time, like oh my god. I'm like, I mean, I'm not an employee of Ruchitita at this point. I'm just like part-time, like just doing contract work. I was not full-time at all or anything. And so I was like, oh my god, what am I gonna do? And I think I called Bernie first. You call it, Bernie was in a movie. I always say, I can tell you, I always say,

milk, Bernie and Gavin and Griffin were seeing a movie together. Because Gavin was here for the summer. My buddy Ross. It was really weird. Yeah. Gavin was here for the summer. So I remember making two, maybe three calls. That's how it came up, by Ross. It was really weird. And Gavin was here for the summer. So I remember making two maybe three calls. That's how it came up, by the way,

because we were referencing with Gavin's here for the summer and he said that was the time Jack got fired or something like that. Okay. And so anyway, so I called, I called Jeff and I called Bernie. I don't know, I forget the order. He got me.

And I remember I said what had happened and you were like, are you kidding me? Like you thought I was a joke and then I said I wasn't and I could hear your face drop. Yeah. And then I remember it was cold, it was winter because it was freezing cold. And I was driving home with no driver's side window

just like shaking with like, oh my God, what have I done? And then I called, then I think you told me to call Bernie and I called Bernie. And then same deal and I was like, oh my God, oh my God. And then I think I called you back. I forget the sort of chain of it is blurry there. And then I basically got home and I was like, oh my God, oh my God. And then I think I called you back. I forget the sort of chain of it is blurry there. And then I basically got home and I was like, well, fuck. All right, I don't think I'll ever work for Rister teeth.

And so yeah, and then that's where you guys would step in. Because at this point, I was just like, I don't know what to do because I pretty much, I mean, I, like, it was bad. Well, we embarked on a month long adventure. Yeah, Gavin would actually like to touch your telescope story, but like, I lived in dumpsters trying to find this thing.

We, and cops, constantly calling the cops, kicking it, going into like drug dens. Yeah, man. Yeah, it was like kicking down doors and like, and I was hitting the top of the wall. And I was hitting up like Craigslist seeing if they popped up and went to every pawn shop in Austin Well, obviously this was a big deal, right? And at the time we yeah, no, it's still a big deal I mean like we like I can say I'm gonna say first of all that like the way we handled this stuff now is

You know, it's for a big company. We have better procedures for those kinds of things way better security It was just a collection of things that we did wrong, you know what I mean? And the thing that I really focused on you was stopping with it in the car when we had such a big discussion about that's where you and I kind of fell off. And the hard part for me was having to call the developer, you know, and tell them that this had happened. And it's like a month before this piece of software comes out. And it's like, I mean, you could pretty much write,

like, we knew that it was gonna be like headlines or the thing was gonna be at least, and you know, or something like that. And we like scoured piracy sites for like 30 days. It was like, all we did for a month is we company shut down. We just beat ourselves up about this. Nothing ever happened. Even the developer to their credit was like,

this kind of stuff happens. Yeah, they were, they were, I don't know, want to say they didn't give a shit. No, but they were like, oh, thanks a lot in the snow. Yeah. We were, this, this is something we deal with. It was one of those things was such a small company where I was on the phone. I remember everyone was around me and like waiting, you know, because they couldn't hear it and I hung up. I was like, I guess we're okay, you know, it's, you know, they're not, you know, they're not furious with us. And get a us out of the bus for this thing. So yeah, then it was 30 days,

the software came out, nothing ever came of it, but we still didn't talk about it because we just felt like fucking idiots about it and felt terrible about it. Yeah, I mean, that was the darkest time in my life. Like, because I mean, thankfully, thank God, nothing happened, but it's like, oh, I could have been responsible for incredibly horrible, horrible things.

It was like, well, I'm never gonna work for Rooster Teeth. And so I moved to Los Angeles. And I was like, all right, well, this, you know, that I'm not gonna be able to get a job there and that was the only company I wanna work for in Austin. I was like, well, I'm gonna go ahead and leave and see what I can do in LA. Started a porn career.

And I started my porn career. And that started going okay. And then I just saw on the side, I started doing other stuff. I started doing like, I made a map that Jeff spotted and you gotta hold me and I was very, very shocking. So yeah, we had talked about it too, where it was like, did we overreact? Because all the people that were in the industry

didn't like, in the industry was telling us it's like this kind of thing happens, police reports, all that stuff, you guys, you know, you did the crimes. You guys didn't commit the crime. I thought it's my kids too. It's like, JD, especially, so rules oriented. And I said, look, dude, there's so many people that are trying to break the rules. Don't worry that like you're misinterpreting the rules.

I'm going to get trouble for doing something wrong. It's like, there are people who are actively like trying to break the rules. And that was us. And it was a crime. And I think, you know, that's what brought me back around to center. Was I was like, here's this guy. It's like, yeah, he made a mistake, but it wasn't. He, you know, he was a victim of a crime.

You know, it just had to impact a lot of us as well. And I don't think we'd be, do we never even had a conversation like you're out of here or anything like that? No, no, I think honestly, Bernie, I think I talked to you that night. Yeah. I don't think I talked to you again for eight months. I think that was the last time I actually spoke to you until I was back in the office.

Yeah. And so, cause I went out to LA and I was out there for almost six months and then I drove back in October of 2009 is when I started helping out Joel's stuff and doing achievements, achievement or stuff. And then December 1st, 2009, it was when you guys offered me the full time.

Yeah. And so, yeah, it was that was basically from, yeah, roughly, like March, April of 2009, until, you know, what, I guess, September, they call it failing forward. Yeah. We get, we get, like a lot of credit, your small company, and we're doing all this crazy stuff. And like, oh, you know, Wild West, and, you know, they're doing all the stuff that nobody else is doing. And it's crazy times times and we look at the back of that possibly. But then it's like, there was stupid shit where we fucked up and that was an instance where we fucked up and that could have totally derailed us.

Yeah. You know, that could have really totally derailed us. Honestly, as early as achievement 100 was, I was just, I'm never having conversations with you. It was like, dude, I think we both believe in the potential of this thing. I just don't know if it's worth it to risk everything else, you know, that we've done. Yeah. And we just, we've had those conversations.

Yep. And so it was, it was super shitty. Yeah. It's about a few now two. So listen, I'm sorry that I like randomly just brought it up. Oh, no, no, it's okay. Like honestly, this, this is one of those things where it's like, all right, I guess that will never be discussed.

Because I mean, it was a, it was a very, and my, I mean, it was a hugely negative point in my life where I was like, oh my God, I could have just tanked a bunch of my new friends. Because I mean, at this point, I'd only been working with you guys less than a year, I mean, it was a hugely negative point in my life where I was like, oh my God, I could have just tanked a bunch of my new friends. Cause I mean, at this point, I'd only been working with you guys less than a year, I would say. I mean, I started doing a forced enjoyment, those pre-achievement hunter.

And that was, I pitched you guys some contract work and you brought me in and then eventually, then you then Jeff pitched the idea of a Schema hunter to me. And that was, at Red House Pizza. Yeah, Red House Pizza is not there anymore. But that was like probably, March or April of 2008 when you pitched me the idea

and we had it up and running in July 2008. You're so much better with dates than I am. I could even hold you here. Well, it's a lot of it's documented in the first podcast. Yeah, I mean, it's like, because we launched the podcast and we did some red versus blue PSAs to like get a cheap and hunter going.

Yeah, the achievable's PSA. That was the first piece of content we put out in a cheap 100. That was the 27th of July 2008. And then 28th was the, when we put up burnout paradise, there's the first video, the first achievement 100 video. You know, it's crazy.

We should talk about this Jeff, because I'm gonna talk about like the Rooster Channel versus the Achievement 100 channel. But it's like, it's crazy. I think one of the reasons why this was also would be deal is like, this is like year seven or eight of the company. We were, Gavin was here

because we were making season six, seven of our previous. He was directing season seven. Is that what it then re-construction, recreation? Yeah. And it was like, you know, we were trying to get other stuff going. It's like, we had, we had, we had seven years, we had one show. And it's like, here we had this thing that we had believed and had, you know, big potential. And it's like, this misstep. And it's like, oh, fuck, are we just going to be back to one show doing this thing? Yeah. Because the podcast was still in its infancy at that point.

And then Jeff deleted 100 videos. Yeah. And then we got credit for it. Yeah, I got credit for it for the last. It's always been me. Yeah, yeah. That was, because we've talked about that before. Yeah.

That was in the room with you when you did it. You too, to my credit, I helped YouTube change that. That's true. They fixed that after me. Yeah, so that was Jeff basically. Like, so initial, back in the day, YouTube had all the list of all the most, it was 100 videos on your My Videos channel, a tab. And there was a box where you'd check it and like,

oh, I wanted to leave this video. You hit the one above the one, the top one, most recent one, which selected everything and then it's deleted everything. And this was back in the days when we were in Oblinator, so it wasn't as bad. Like, I think of our worst days being in the downtown office as far as the downtown office and before, in terms of hours and exhaustion and work and like living,

like I remember season six, Matt didn't go home, I think for like three weeks, I would go in. He was just like living on the sofa and he smelled. And remember what we started doing? Like season eight with Monty, we got a hotel room across street. Yeah. Trade off, like rotate through.

Yeah. Yeah. And, but I remember I was just exhausted and I just was tired and my brain just wasn't working so I was so tired. Do you remember what video you deleted? That was like, oh, damn it. The connectibles video. It was a connectibles one.

And I think it was the Rage Quits Impossible game. Yeah. That was a million-view video. You deleted a million-viewits impossible game. Yeah, that was a million view video. You deleted a million view video at that time. That was, you know, unicorn. Big deal, yeah. So I remember those early days of T-Metiamen, it was like, we ran an experiment where you guys put a T-Metiamen hundred videos,

because you guys could produce three videos a day. We ran the same problem when the know was RT news. All of a sudden you looked at our channel and it looked like that's all it was because they can produce so many videos. And remember you guys did an experiment where if you put a video up on the Roochie channel, it got 80,000 views I think

and if you put it on your own channel, it got 40,000 views. Just shows how much things have changed, especially for achieving 100 in a time, right? Yeah, yeah. But anyway, I'm very, very happy to be here still. Thank you for giving us a second chance. Thanks for making the shadow complex map, and sharing it with me,

because that's why you work here. And thanks for saving all those kids from cancer. Yeah. You are 100% responsible. All those kids are alive because of you. November 11th, this year, we're doing extra life again, and we're going for a million dollars. That's crazy, a million dollars.

Anyway, how much money have we raised for extra life, all total? You know, over three million. Jesus Christ. I think over the past, over the past six times we've done it. Five big ones and then you and I did that one and six, three, six. All right, we did that one in GHG monor office back in the day. That was the very first one we did. We did it in 24 hours, we sat, we had to camped out.

We had a lot of time. I think we raised like 25,000 that day. I heard a cool thing in regards to that. I don't know if that's public yet. It's not public. Okay, I always think that's the problem on the podcast. Yeah. I know about stuff.

So, all right, cool. We'll tune in for Extra Life. Jack, I'm also glad that it worked out. Yeah, I'm very happy. Thank you very much, Bernie, for bringing me back. And Jeff, thank you for believing in me. I love you with all my heart. I love you too, Jeff.

It's been an absolute pleasure to work with you. Oh, thank you very much. You're my brother. I wish you best of luck in the future. All right. It was a good working year. Bye everyone. Thanks everyone.

Yeah. Drive right home, Jack. Don't stop anywhere. Just go straight home. I have to say that too, it was a big deal. I wanted to defend the action of letting people go or deciding you're not going to work with any more. You've got to do that.

If people make big mistakes, you've got to be able to do that. It's like, I think any company, the bigger it gets, it actually gets really hard for people to get fired. And it shouldn't be that hard, I don't think. So you probably don't know this, but you gave me, oh, what happened? People, you got new information. Yeah.

You gave me, when I worked at Tele Network, I was a man, I was a team leader. Yeah. You were the vice when I worked at Telenetwork, I was a team leader. Yeah. You were the vice president. I was struggling with my first fire. I had to fire somebody. And I was having a, and I'm super empathic. And I don't think a lot of people have dealt with that side of it.

It's hard. Yeah. And I was like, I was asking you for tips and pointers. I had worked with this guy a lot to try to save him as an employee. And in my head, it's like I'm taking food out of his mouth and I'm taking away his ability to pay his rent. And it's incredibly stressful.

And I feel as his manager that I failed and it makes me want to try over and over again. This is me at 27 years old, 26 years old. And I was really struggling with firing this kid. And I asked you for tips, because I'd seen you fire a bunch of people. And you told me something that I will never forget for the rest of my life,

and you probably have no memory of doing this. You told me that I wasn't firing him, he was firing himself. Okay. And that if it got to where it was and I had done everything that was in the rule book, that I'd gone down the checklist of things to do, then I wasn't taking anything away from him, he was in the rule book, that gone down the checklist of things to do, then I wasn't taking anything away from him,

he was making the decision himself, and I was just delivering the news, essentially. And totally changed my perspective, fired so many people after that, and it was totally fun. Probably about 25 people after that. You were not on a rampage. Yeah, I was like, I was like, Dale Grible

in that episode of King of the Hill, but they bring him in just a fire people. Get the hell out, you're like Trump basically. Yeah. Press coordinators. What is that position that he keeps rotating people through at this point? White House spokesperson? Yeah, or yeah, the other spokesperson then like the head of public relations or whatever. I want one to think we're gonna also have that job.

I think it was like, they go through enough people. It'll get to us. There's only 330 million people in America. And he's gonna be right this way. I like it. So, they go through enough people. It'll get to us. There's only 330 million people in America. And it's going to be real. This is like eight years three. So we'll find out. Yeah, but it's like, I also feel though about firing too,

is it's, it's always super shitty. But at the same time, you're, you're also doing them a favor. Like they're, if they're bad in this job, there's nothing worse than being bad at a job. And I think that's something it's like, you and I especially, Gus as well, we worked in for a long time. We worked in a careers that were not entertainment based. So like literally every day we get to do this, at least for me, is I have, I hope, maintain that perspective. It's like just having this

job where it's like, I get to do what I want to do is hobby that turned into a career, you know, that's never ever ever lost on me. I don't think, you know, and there are people who joke about the time when it looked like I wanted to kill myself every day and it looked so miserable being here, but yeah, no, that's a perspective that I don't think I can ever lose because working at Thalinell with you guys was my second career. I was in the army before that. That's true. For five years, and then I did five and a half years at TNI, managing a textbook company that I didn't give a shit about. No offense, so that I just,

textbook was not my passion. Managing textbook with that. Let me ask you about that, because you did it. Because I have very fond memories of telene. I have fond memories of the jobs. Hard jobs. Hard jobs.

Hard jobs. It's not like I was passionate about fixing people's computers. Yeah. Or managing other people's fixed people's computers. But I love the people I worked with. And we learned a lot of the job. We learned to talk about business too. We learned a ton about business.

Yeah, the guy who owned and ran the company was unbelievably giving in terms of the responsibility he would hand down to younger people. Like he had a lot of faith. We could identify people. Every took one look, he was like, he's got a lot of tattoos. You know, he's an old school guy,

but yeah, I always very appreciative of that, you know, he's the old school guy, but yeah, he's very appreciative of that. I know he frustrates me when people talk about their old jobs, like at the moment somebody leaves a company if they were like, they're 10 years, they just start talking shit about it. It's like, it was a positive experience. And we used to deal with that all the time

when we'd have friends that would leave. And then all you, I'd stop hanging out with them because all they'd wanna do is hang out at Casino or at some bar and bitch about working there. So you just stop. And you don't work there anymore. You're on your new job, bitch about that job. And it wasn't so bad.

No. Yeah, it's really weird. It's fucking, you ate every month. Yeah, you paid your bills, there's gas in the tank. It's a weird thing. You're digging dishes. It's a weird thing that I think like people go through in their mid-20s, or you know, when they go out

and create a, not you guys, you guys don't have jobs. Yeah, the mid- 20s do now. And yeah, but it's a weird thing where people just get like oddly competitive and passive aggressive about stuff. And I was hated that. I was hated that, you know what I mean? But it's like that anywhere, you know?

It's like that anywhere. You leave a job, I mean, how do you feel like talk like really positively about their last job, you know? I mean, it's like, it's just not a normal thing. You don't leave it when you like it, I guess. Jeff's someone's bugging the show. I mean, Blanchard is sitting over there and I don't know thing. You don't leave it when you like it. I guess. Jeff's someone's bugging the show. I mean, Blanchard is sitting over there and I don't know why.

I don't know why, sir. So I'm just a seat filler. So why are you sitting there, though? I got an email with a calendar invite for 430 to 630 and all I know is I'm here. What does the calendar invite say? Just sit in the seat where Patrick sat last week. Right, we're doing great stuff.

Yeah, well, fucking keep up the great work, dude. Thank you, yeah. How are you doing? I'm doing all right. So you're, you're, you're, we're doing a great job. Yeah, well, fuck and keep up the great work, dude. Thank you, yeah. How are you doing? I'm doing all right. So you're, you're, you're, you're fitting in well. Yeah. Are you the last person with the internet box that we're gonna hire?

I hope. I hope so. Okay. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. I think we've hired all of you, have we? At this point? Sorry, Dilan, sorry, Mike.

Sorry, my clearing, sorry, Dilan. No, I wasn't calling anybody out. I said no. They're still two left. Yeah, but we started. There was no, no, he was employed full time. What do you do? What does he do now?

Andy? Yeah. I have no clue. What do you do? He works for Trevor. I work for Trevor. I do some edits and occasionally I'm on the spot, like every three fucking weeks and...

He looks Jeff. Yeah. He looks Jeff. Yeah. And you know, occasional less player too. So that's, that's funny. Well, sounds like money well spent. I don't know. Yeah, it's Trevor. occasional let's play or two. So that's that's about it. Well, sounds like money will spin on them. Yeah, it's Trevor, Trevor's Trevor, good boss.

Yeah, he's not bad. Not bad, he's not bad. Go ahead and you know, Lindsey was before him. So you know, don't be too glowing with your praise. Yeah, really. You know, I'm just buttering him up for a reason. Chill, not chill, that's good. So he is what I mean, it's good.

I like it. You missed the part where Jack got fired. Did you miss that? I was there. I haven't like that. Yeah, I know. You don't even know. I hear it's a lot where Jack got fired. Did you miss that? I was there. I haven't like that. I know. You don't even know. I hear it's a lot easier to get fired now

than I was back then. Hey, is your prequel stuff where you talk about the Star Wars prequels? The prequels? Yeah, the one through three. Is that ironic? No, I generally enjoy them. You really?

I'm sorry. I grew up with them. I was born in 1992, 1999, I know it was seven, so. It's a good point. They're not, so. It's a good point. They're not bad movies. It's a good point. They're not great Star Wars movies, but they're not bad movies.

I'm just saying they're not bad movies. What? If they're Star Wars movies, but they're not good Star Wars movies, like there's worse movies than they're not bad movies. Of course they're worse movies. But they're just not on par as the original trilogy. Like how can you do that? It's like saying, World War II wasn't a good war for Germany, but it was a good war.

Yeah, we won. Solid. So, you know, it wasn't, it did not bad movies. Three is generally good. Two is trash. One has moments. I don't recall that two and three are separate movies. It all just blends together to me.

One is trash. Two and three are, no. No. H blends together to me. One is trash, two and three are, or a bunch of other things. Hayden, Kristensen, and two is awful. Really? Did you see anybody in one? You know Jake Lloyd gets a frenic. And then you get in jail or like in a home.

I think he got institutionalized. Yeah, institutionalized. That's what stars will do to him. That's sad, dude, that's f**king sad. George Lucas ruined his childhood. Didn't ruin my childhood. I liked them. You know that George Lucas's on record

is saying the reason why he sold Disney was the internet. The criticism. That between the first two sets of trilogies, that the internet came about, and then he's like, oh, everyone hates my fucking movies. I thought everybody loved my movies. And he was like, I'm done with this, basically. So if George Lucas never read the comments,

he'd still be making Star Wars. Don't read the comments. That's not real. I'm glad he read the comments. You have George Lucas never read the comments, he'd still be making Star Wars. Don't read the comments. That's not real. Glad he read the comments. You have to admit though that if you were a time traveler looking back or a historian looking back to the year 2002 and reading comments about Star Wars, you would assume it's the most reviled film franchise

in the history of the world. For sure. Even the people who love it talk about it, like it's fucking garbage. Yeah. They're not perfect. Tyler, Tyler Rens bullshit, I just wanna say. StarColor Basis bullshit. Hate it that. Did you? I hate it's fucking garbage. Yeah, they're not perfect. Kylo Ren's bullshit. I just want to say, Stark Kylo Ren's bullshit. He did that.

Did you? I hate his Stark Kylo Ren. You don't like Kylo Ren? This is too whiny. I just can't keep that. That's what Anakin should have been. He's scary to me. Darth Vader's fucking scary.

Darth Vader is first scary. Yeah. He's fucking scary. Kylo Ren was a better Anakin than Anakin was. Like Kylo Ren is what Anakin should have been. Like brooding. He's good. Yeah.

You watched the like the rebel series and all that stuff? Yeah. Yeah. I've seen everything. I've seen everything. I'm pretty much caught up on everything, Canon. Jeff, I don't even know if I want to answer the question. Well, I'm gonna ask him.

Andy, have you been to see the emoji movie? I have not. Okay, thank God. No, sorry to wait. You should've been making the rounds. Fucking kid. Did you drug me to see? I had to go 10 kids to this fucking emoji movie.

10? It's awful. It's just terror. It's so terrible. It doesn't look busy since we last talked. I thought you only had two. What? That's the extended version of my family. No.

So Jordan, my ex, we have a great co-parenting relationship. She fucking threw me under the lover. That's all for the Earth. Great woman. Yeah. She was like, I was like, hey, they're one of vacation. And I was like, hey, I just like, if you guys are gonna be gone for like a week, I just wanna like, you know,

I just can't get the kids like for two days a weekend, you know, I know it's like on the calendar or whatever. And we go back and forth, super fluid about that. And I always appreciate her for that. She fucked me over this time. She didn't tell me she'd fucking bought these tickets to the emoji movie. And every other parent in there, she'd agreed to do it.

And it took them. It was exact on. She's like, she's got all the credit for doing it. All the other parents have to go this, she's garbage fucking movie. And then she just said the last minute she just pulls a fucking Houdini and gets out of it. And sticks it on me.

I would've given all those kids whiskey. Do you watch Silicon Valley? Nah. Smarter The Smarter Shows on TV. Okay. It's a fucking great show. And TJ Miller. I don't wanna show making me feel stupid.

No, no, I won't do that. Trust me, These are idiot. You'd like it. It's like idiot, some aunts, nerds, you know? I saw that TJ Miller did a party a couple weeks ago and he, uh, he didn't look happy. He was like, I like, I have a sad dude. Really? Yeah. He just made the emoji movie. Well, he quit fucking Silicon Valley and all the interviews where he's talking about quitting Silicon Valley, one of the smartest shows on TV, he's talking about he wants to do more stuff like the emoji movie and parasail into the can. Paul, he quit the show,

it didn't take like a hiatus from it. No, not like a quick ton. It was weird, I read some of those interviews. Whoops, it was weird. I saw him stand up. He's also dead, it was pretty good. It was funny dude. Yeah, it was really funny guy.

I think the first time I ever saw him he's in this Nathan Barnett video, that dance video. It's weird, it's really funny guy. I think the first time I ever saw him using this, Nathan Barnett video, that dance video. This weird, it's weird like connection. We talked about Nathan Barnett. It's almost like saying the name of the devil, because he can show us up, like we mentioned him on the podcast, and then he crashed our PAX panel in his underwear.

Oh, is that that asshole with the headband? Yeah, the ball gets balled or guy. I don't like him. He almost looks like like a goofier version of Nathan Zelner a little bit. Yeah, like if Nathan Zelner had a low T cell count. I was like a cow, he's your Nathan and who's the dude from Trevor from Grand Theft Auto?

Oh yeah, Trevor. What is his name in real life? Oh, the actor, I don't know. What's the name of the character? I don't know. Trevor. Trevor's in the game. You work in the fucking video game department, they play GTA every, what are you editing over there? I don't edit. We don't let what's having a character. I don't know Trevor. I wasn't prepared Trevor Trevor Trevor in the game You work in the fucking video game department. They play GTA every what are you editing over there? I don't

We don't let them that it's a good good good. Yeah, no, I don't do a lot of play kids Not not I'm not trying to say the Andy slow, but he edits the simple stuff Yeah, I honestly true. I do the last games. Yeah, not a lot did put ahead and a tail on it Let's watch out And then I watch it yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, so really, I just made it so. Yeah, but this, so weird connection, it's weird how things come back over time.

They crashed our panel in their underwear. You remember that? I remember that. Which one? Which one? Which one? Which one? What have been totally fine?

But then they were kind of bad at it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They weren't, they were still given take. They just wanted to take over our panel. It's like, then we were like, just gonna get the fuck out of here. That was screw attack. Figures.

Right? It's so weird how that comes back around. Those were the screw attack guys. He was like a screw attack guy at the time. I forgot it. Yeah. That was like our first exposure to screw attack, too. That's why I hate screw attack. Also Trevor is Steven Og.

Steven Og, that's the same. Thank you. That's just fucking weird. I'm a rip character. That motherfucker's blowing up. He's a walk dead. He's a better call Saul. Yup. He's in GTA. He's in another big property call Saul. Yup, he's in GTA.

He's in another big property too. Yeah, he's been really blowing up ever since GTA. I've never really seen an actor get a really big break from a new game. He's on the map. Yeah, I'm always waiting for Troy Baker or somebody like that to start showing up and a ton of stuff. Or Nolan North.

Yeah, he's no one with bean and things. Or Travis William. Yeah, good looking dude. Yeah, I'm he's married. I'm not trying to fuck him or anything, but he's, good looking dude. Yep. Yep. I mean he's married I'm not trying to fuck him or anything but he's a good looking dude. Let it all out You don't know I'm not happy there. You never know. You never know. He's try right gotta put things out there But I always like whenever I get out of here. I don't want to talk to you

Whenever they talk about things to make the shirt back to you don't keep that uncharted Movie or something like that. They always like, they already goes nuts. And they're talking about like, oh, Nathan Phillion should play, what's the name of the guy in uncharted? Nathan Drake. Nathan Drake. And the, I just fucking hate that character. Ashley has a, you know, in Australia,

all these fucking good looking dudes. Ashley has an ex boyfriend who looks just like fucking Nathan Drake. Oh really? Even where's the fucking scar from? Well, he must not have been so great or he'd still have her right? Yeah, thanks for the shot in the army or her fucking visa ran out One of the two things but uh, yeah the whatever they like bring up uncharted and they're like who's gonna play Nathan Drake ooh, it should be like Nathan Philly and would be great Nathan Philly's a Twitter guy

Yeah, I'd love to play but it's like no in North plays that character. How about the guy to play some? Why you like the fucking character putting no in North in it no in How about the guy that plays them? He's why you like the fucking character, putting No, on North in it. No, on North is the guy who should be in it. It's proven, it's proven. It's fucking, it's not nonsense. Nonsense. I agree. Garbaggio.

Totally with you on that. By the way, I learned something, we were out in LA. This week, it's so weird. Los Angeles LA. Los Angeles LA. Right. Not to be confused, the lower Alabama. That is correct.

Do you really call it LA or Louisiana? No, they call it Louisiana. No, I'm in Texas, we'd call it LA because we could go and drink in Louisiana because it was 18 years old, the drinking age there. Mexico was zero. But Louisiana was 18, so we'd go to LA and And it was like a two hour drive to go there. Cause same reason I drink in Louisiana. Louisiana was just a garbage state.

It still is. I could say, I fucking lived there for like a two years. You lived in Louisiana? Yeah, seven to eight's great. I didn't know that. Yeah, and Coveington, Louisiana, dried across causeway from New Orleans. That's a conversation we haven't had before.

You live in Louisiana? We've had that. So someone's gonna probably like clip a podcast and we talk about it extensively, talk about it. One thing I'm always grateful for too, you talk about these stories is like, you kinda tap out on your personal life. One thing I like about it is occasionally

and more frequently unfortunately, is I'll retell the story that I told like four or five years ago. And before I do it, I always ask people in the podcast, hey, have I ever talked about this before? And I was like, no, no, they don't get to say they don't fucking remember it. And then I do it, I always ask people in the podcast, hey, have I ever talked about this before? And I was like, no, no. They don't consider fucking remember it. And then I tell the story, and then someone will put them back to back,

but I tell the story the exact same way. And it's like, I'm glad I do that, because it was like the facts were off or something like that. Then I would have a problem. Uh-huh. Now I hear you. You do the same thing? I do the same thing.

I also, I've learned, the memory is not, is gone. It's not, it's not going well. And so I have to sometimes I will watch old videos so I can hear my old stories because I don't remember how to tell them now. I don't remember stuff. I was having a conversation with somebody yesterday

and I was amazed that the names I couldn't remember from people that were like friends of mine. And I was like, fuck, I guess I am 42 because I just 14 now. Yeah. I know, that's the worst here. Don't do it. I was a doctor this week for the first time in like eight years. Yeah, maybe

and the fucking everything works. That's good. Yeah, like they were I was like I think I had dangerous thing I figured I had AIDS and cancer and you know, you know, my liver was gone You don't want that and I buy a resistant gunner. I don that. That's going on. I was 100% healthy the whole way. I was even like, if you want to do butt stuff or whatever, in my 40s, like a colonoscopy or a prostate exam, whatever. What do you say when you said that?

He was like, no, you're good. And I was like, really? I thought at like 40, I had to get a colonoscopy. He was like, then you have one in your 30s because you're diverticulitis and I was like, yeah, and he was back. Yeah. And I was like, all right.

So I had the same conversation when I turned 40 with a doctor because my mom died of colon cancer. Yeah, I remember. And so I thought, you know, I'm 40, I should get this done. I go, say no, even with like, you know, family history, 45 is when you want to do it. I go, yeah, but I'm just like, I think I like it should get done. It's just like, I want to be like,

I had the curve on something like this, you know, if I have to deal with it. And he's like, no, you're good. And I said, I really think I have it. Then I realized I'm like, he's getting uncomfortable. Yeah. I'm trying to convince this guy something like this, you know, if I have to deal with it. And he's like, no, you're good. And I said, I really think I have it. Then I realized I'm like, he's getting uncomfortable. Like, I'm trying to convince this guy, just like, they click something in me. And I was like, oh, thanks for making me feel like a shithead.

I will say, the doctor went to town on my balls for a while, and then comfortable, and I was like, why? He was looking for, uh, funny said, like, no, he was looking for, uh, what is. No, he was looking for, what is it? Yeah, hernias, I guess. What? He was like, hold on a ball.

I think it was your 20. Listen to him and coffin and then there was a, it was, it was a little long. Where the fuck did you find this doctor, Tinder? Is that any of them? Yeah. He said, any Tinder for medical profession. He said he was a licensed dichologist. So what was that, did you go? ¿Qué es eso? ¿Eso es un interno de medico profesional? ¿Eso es un interno de medico profesional?

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¿Eso es un interno de medico profesional? ¿Eso es un interno de medico profesional? ¿Eso es un interno de medico profesional? de contenido de tus corrió selectónicos, segmentar tu público, entre muchas cosas más adivina menos y vende más con Intuitimale Sim, la marca número 1 en Emilio Marquetinha Automatización, empieza hoy mismo en MailSimple.com, vas a vender tus públicos de marcas competidoras en número globales de clientes en 2021-2022. I wanna say something, because you've recently entered a period of sobriety. Is it fair to say this is lifelong and never for you? I hope so. Oh really? Yeah, that's the plan.

I would like to think so, yeah. See, it's interesting because having known you for now. From 20 years, 23 years. Yeah, I've lived in Austin. I've lived in Austin for 25 fucking years. I realize that when I moved to LA this year. It's like, I moved here in 1990, 27 years, dude. So I'm gonna show you a picture.

You guys don't get to see it, it's a fuck off. It's dick. Here's, so I quit drinking for a myriad of reasons, right? And then I went to the doctor, I wanted to wait a while till I shit got out of my system and like my body regulated before I went to the doctor and make sure I, my liver didn't fall out or anything. It's like, and by the way, cram it for a test.

And then the doctor's like, your liver's awesome. Really? You have the liver of a man who drank much less than you, which in my head I'm like, I should start drinking again, then. Gus went through the same thing. Yeah.

And then the, so this was two days ago, the day that happened, this kid sent me an email wanting me to do something. That's not weird. It was like, it was not pornography or pedophilia or anything. It was something worth of it. Nobody whipped it. But he was like, we met and here's, I have proof.

Here's a photo of you and I meeting. And it was the day I thought, maybe I'll start drinking again. And I saw that photo. Wow, that's crazy. Doesn't even look like you. Yeah, and I thought, It doesn't even look like you in my memory. That bloated swollen mess.

And I thought, oh no, no, I'm never gonna drink again. You know it's funny because the only indication I had of that, because you see somebody every day, it's like you don't really think about it. And like we actually don't see each other every day, but we cross paths on a regular basis. It's something that I think is, people don't realize about Rooster Teeth.

Maybe the new audience, not as much, because they haven't been with us this whole time, but people that have been around a long time, there's still the idea that you and Matt and Joel and Gus and I all work together, and I could go weeks without seeing any of you. And that would be not necessary, right? I mean, we like to do things. Yeah, and like I go, I maybe talk to Matt once every three weeks,

you know, I talk to Matt every day. Dude, I don't want to bug him. Gus, like once a week, I go, I maybe talk to Matt once every three weeks, you know? I talk to Matt every day. Dude, I don't want to blog him. Gus, like once a week, I'm a podcast. Probably see Gus the most, but just because we use the same bathroom. Yeah. No, I'm not even making a joke. It's just that we both use the same bathroom.

So I'll run into him in the hallway sometimes. But, do you like, you don't go out after hours and hang out with him? With Gus? I know, he just does. He doesn't do that with anybody. No, we won't do it. Have you said, this is a big point of question. I wouldn't have done it with you last two weeks ago. With the striker pun with anybody. No, we won't do it. Have you said, this is a big point of question. I wouldn't do it with you last two weeks ago.

With Stringer Punch 7. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And then we went out for drinks like what? Like, I want to go five months ago. We went up for drinks. Yeah, about four, five months ago. That's not gonna happen anymore, I guess.

If you're not drinking, I'll go watch you drink. I don't. Yeah, they got diacyl everywhere. Are you okay with that? Yeah. I'm not gonna be one of those people. Like, doesn't I have that friend, I was telling the story, the customer had that friend who quit drinking,

who needed to quit drinking, because he had like 112 DUIs. And I ran into him one time and he was like, he was like, hey, he's still drinking? And I was like, yeah, are you still in my drinking? He's like, oh, yeah, I'm happiest of ever been. I don't miss it at all. And I was like, okay, that's a weird thing to lead with,

but sure. Yeah. And he goes, what are you drinking? And I go, whatever. And he's like, it was the last time you drank. I'm not that he was like, intervention type sure. Yeah. And he goes, what are you drinking? And I go, whatever. And he's like, what was the last time you drank? And I thought he was like intervention type thing. Yeah. And I go, I was preaching at you. I drank last night. And he goes, what'd you have? And I go, I'm going to have a lot of tonics. And he goes, hmm, you put lemon or lime in that.

And I was like, oh, this is porn to him. Wow. And I was like, lime. And he's like, what brand? And I was like, I don't know. Tito's he's like like, oh yeah, Tito's. And I was like, all right. You got out of this conversation. I'm not gonna be that person. I'm not gonna be the person who's, who like, I go to bars all the time. I listen, I think if, I think if my friends have a problem, I'm pretty straightforward.

And I will talk to people about stuff. Sure, I really will. And I never thought of you as having like a drinking problem. I think you had an identity built around drinking, but it was never a point in time where I thought, Jeff's drinking is out of control or anything like that. It got away from me at the end. Did it?

Yeah. And I did a very good job of not, I think I did it. You always probably think you do a better job than you do. Sure, but you and I not seeing each other that much, but it got away from me the last couple months. To the point where I realized it was an issue, and then so I stopped, and now I'm in it. And I think I guess I did, because I had to,

but it was pretty fucking easy to stop. So I don't know. You just had to make up my mind to quit. And then I just did it. It's not long, it's been. Five months. Five months. Yeah, that's a long time.

I used to count the days, but I got to the point where I realized I was counting the days just to count the days to like say a number and the number didn't really mean anything. Like, 109 days or whatever and I just decided to drop that. Yeah, but I was in, yeah, about five months. Well, I want to be clear too. It's like, not everybody can do that. And I lost 36 pounds doing it. Yeah, you don't look like the photo, that's for sure.

I remember there, I remember when I thought about it, I noticed it was we were looking at a video of someone we've known for years. And remember when I thought about it, I noticed it was we were, we were looking at a video of someone we've known for years and you refer to them as all bloated and crazy. And I laughed and I was like, yeah, you know, he's in pretty bad shape. And then I looked at you and I thought, that Jeff's looking a little...

Little bloated, yeah, he's looking a little, you know. We know. I had a moment where Gus looked better than me. Don't do it. Yeah, that's terrible. Fuck me. Yeah, that was rough. So I fixed it.

You can't live with that. And now he looks like shit, now he's fun. Well, like, I don't, like I would use the word addicted for you, but addiction is something that I've come up against in my life. Like I have family members that have been addicted to alcohol, I feel. And I've watched how it affects their lives. And but I'm also like like I have family members that have been addicted to alcohol, I feel. And I've watched how it affects their lives.

And but I'm also like, have a weird guilt associated with it because I don't feel like I have that. Like I'll drink a beer here on the podcast. And or like I'll get fucking hammered. But then I won't go back and drink the next day. I probably won't. I can't make myself do that. And I won't drink for like a month

or anything like that. And I have like one drinking session a year pretty much. And I'm always like horrified by it afterwards. I just, I like stuff to excess. No matter what it is. Yeah. You know? No, yeah, I know.

Candy or video games or beer or whatever, all in. Yeah. And so like I don't have any desire to drink that beer right now. And so it's not hard not to drink it. It's not hard to be next to it. But if I drank that one beer, I would have to drink the next 15 beers. Yeah.'s not hard not to drink it. It's not hard to be nice to it. But if I drank that one beer, I would have to drink the next 15 beers.

Yeah. Just once you start, it's like opening up a box of like, Lafay Taffy, it's the whole box is gonna get eaten. No, no, I'm gonna, yeah. If I open a box of cereal, you're a thick newtons.

I go straight to the bottom of a box of cereal. Yeah, I'll go all the way through it. So it's better just not to open the box. It's better not exactly. I tell it to actually, it's like I can make the best decisions in the world in the grocery store, or looking at my ordering food. I have to go, I want the salad.

I love to do that once, for five seconds, and then I'm stuck with the fucking salad. If I put in my house, like she'll get like a jug of candy and she'll eat a piece of candy out of it or something or a thing of cookie. She'll eat one of them out every fucking three weeks. And I'm like, if that's in the house,

I'm gonna eat it in 10 minutes. If it's sitting there, I'm just gonna like grab's in the house, I'm gonna eat it in 10 minutes. Pure. If it's sitting there, I'm just gonna grab one of the times slowly over the course of a day. Yeah, the same. I've moved to snacking because you got a snack. So I just buy nectarines because I like nectarines and there are like 30 calories in nectarines.

Yeah. And I know I can't eat one. I'm gonna eat four. And by the time you've ingested four nectarines, you're fucking full and you're like, oh, 100 calories. I don't know, it's just what I eat. That's what I eat. That's what I eat.

That's what I eat. That's what I eat. Now you're like, you have so much time in the day. That's what I've heard you say a couple different. So what do you do? There are so many hours in the day that there weren't before. I read a lot, you know, it was nice because I, having an all-in personality, now I just read for three to four hours a day, I do it to an unhealthy amount,

but there's no such thing as unhealthy reading. So I read a shitload, play a lot of rainbow sex. She probably reads a book a week. Yeah, I read a book to three weeks. You play rainbow six siege? Are you not playing battlegrounds? We talk about battlegrounds and way too much of the battlegrounds. Not on a play PC games. Oh, really?

So I'm even on a PC at home, and I have an old Mac desktop that just collects dust. Like I don't, I'm actually at a point, I was talking about this somebody the other day. I'm like, I need a laptop, I need a computer 10% of the time, maybe. Really?

Yeah, I can just keep on recording. Well, I mean, for, yeah, at work, you need as a tool, but in my personal life, I have my laptop because I have my laptop. I don't need it. I've done almost everything on my phone. I noticed also that you have made a huge departure from social media, which I totally get.

Yeah, yeah. Because I'm kind of in that same boat, you know, a Twitter I like, because it's writing, you know what I mean? And honestly, it's probably like I probably shouldn't do it because it scratches that itch of writing and if I didn't do it, I probably would be like writing a lot more every day. It feels like it worked to me. Yeah, I get it, I get it. And I kind of like, I guess maybe feel like the current a little bit, but like,

I've learned because we produce so much content at such a high rate. We're literally talking about 10 to 20 hours a week of unedited recording through Let's Plays or podcasts or whatever, at least for a team of 100. Yeah. That I save everything for that. If when I leave here, I don't talk. I go and I sit and I read or I don't even go out.

I'm kind of a hermit. I don't go out with people a lot. I will go out to, like I went out the other night with Sugar Pine because I want to talk about some stuff with them and they run town. But that was, I go to the movies by myself a lot now. I just, with the exception of my daughter, when my daughter's been at a town all summer.

Yeah. With the exception of my kids, kids make it totally different to you. I don't, I really, I'm just quiet. I live a very quiet life because I know, I'm gonna get up tomorrow and I'm gonna talk for six straight hours and I just like, you just like save all the energy for that. It's so funny, the way you're describing

is exactly we're both Howard Stern fans. Yeah, he's that same thing. It's a lot like that. He would say we go stare at a wall. Like that's what he would do, we just go see. He like, he leaves the show and he goes and he takes a nap. Then he gets up and he listens to anything people want to say to him and then he goes home

and he watches TV and goes to bed and this is very quiet. Yeah, it's very similar. Yeah, very, very similar. What do you think about that? What do you think of what's turned into in like America's got talent and all that stuff? I think that that dude desperately wanted

to be a game show host. His entire, I mean, I've been listening since 1996 and it be a game show host his entire I mean I've been listening since 1996 and it's been a common thread the entire time and that was his attempt and chance at doing that and I think he enjoyed it as Much as he can allow himself to enjoy anything for about a year and then he obligated himself to doing it for longer And then eventually he allowed himself to quit right yeah, yeah, I think he was probably pretty miserable through the majority of the time He did it man. Thank you. I want to come back and scratch through the majority of the time he did it. Man, I wanna come back and he scratched that itch. The game show.

Did you ever do anything like that game show? Well, like a Drew Carrier prices, right, type thing? Well, we just went out to LA, and I wanna talk to you talk about Twitter for a second more, but we went out to LA, and when I was out there, it came up that the last taping of at midnight was happening. 600 episodes in four years.

But before I talk about that, I do want to talk about Twitter since we were on that topic. One of your guys, Larry, had a hugely viral tweet. And I had a viral tweet last week about the emoji movie. Yeah, went nuts when everywhere and it's like people are keeping it back to me and Then I looked I thought what does this fucking analytics? I want to see analytics on Twitter And I looked at it and the tweet was seen by two million people It was retweeted something like 18,000 times. I think Larry's just retweeted four or 50,000 about his trump thing He's trump thing. Yeah, so my treat was like 15,000 times, I think Larry's just retweeted four or 50,000. You think about his Trump thing? His Trump thing.

So my treat was like 15,000 times it was retweeted, like something like 30,000 people clicked on my profile. You can say these are all standard things that shows you. Down, down, down, down, down. Number of people that followed me because of the tweet, 18 people. Yeah. It's like if you have something that gets 45,000, 50,000 likes, that's impossible. Too many people watch it. It's like, you can't build anything on Twitter. So it's just like,

it's it was proven. There's just noise. And I asked the layer. I said, can you send me that same page to me from your thing? Because his thing was way bigger. His total impressions on that Trump to eat were 35,753,000. 30. Think about that for a second. At his 10% of America. That's a good point. Yeah, him more than 10% of our country. It's like 12 and a half percent of America. And he had,

785,000 people clicked on the details of the tweet. 545,000 people, or clicked on his profile, and went to his profile from it. He got 405,000 retweets on it. 157,000 likes, he got 130 followers from that. And that insane. It's like, I think just goes to me, it shows

everyone thinks viral is so important. It's not all boring. That's not all of you. And also like, I just funny, you bring that up because I just read yesterday that Twitter lost users month over month for the first time. It's crazy. And I don't know how long I didn't read that part of the article, but they went from, it is just in US.

So I don't know what their global active user basis, but their active user base went from 70 million to 68 million month over month from I think June to July. I think June to July, what month is this now? This July, okay, yeah, June to July. And which is crazy to me that a social platform as big as Twitter can lose, it's an appreciable amount. Two million people.

But also like, you talk about this, 35 million people saw it. And there's 68 million users in America. So like, I mean, obviously it was seen by more than people, more countries than America. But that's half of the Twitter population in America. It's pretty nuts. It's fucking nuts. And you got 115 or 150 followers from it?

Yeah, 130. Yeah, it's social media's. 130. It's getting said. Yeah, that's it. Social media is still. 130. It's still. It's still. It's still. It's still. It's still.

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It's still. It's still. It's still. It's still. It's still. It's still. It's still. It's still. It's still. It's still. It's still. It's still. And I think that's, I'm glad to see people pivoting back to that as opposed to just like trying to like have so many subscribers or

Follows and Instagram or that kind of shit, you know, I'm glad it's looping back around. It's it it amazes me how much Self-worth people derive from those numbers too. Dude that measuring stick or the flip side of that where they just feel bad about themselves Or something like that. Yeah, it's if you look at so wrapped up and it's crazy for people who don't like do this like I mean I have friends. I'm sure you have friends in your personal life so that don't like they don't have any social media stuff at all they Facebook I do have a lot of friends that have or not even that yeah, and they just like then they see this and they see the big numbers So they have a you know a totally normal amount of Twitter followers and then it's like changes my relation with them It's like this is so fucking stupid. It's so stupid. It's just a place to make like one-liner jokes

as all it is, you know what I mean? Yeah, which, and now midnight's gone. So Twitter's a little bit stupor, even, you know. Well, you'll see the last episode, but Chris had a, you know, see the last episode. I don't know that dude. He's, I met him like once in the office. He seems like a nice guy.

Sober 14 years, Jeff. Yeah, Bruce was telling me when I was on tour, Bruce was tied, I'd quit pretty recently. And Bruce was telling me that like, hard to look at. I think I'm much, I don't know his personal story, but it sounded like he had a real problem with drinking. And like, talked about how much happier the guy is. And he was like, he should talk to him sometime

because he'll tell you how much better life is is that alcohol. If you ever like, get that moment where you feel like you need to go back, which I haven't yet, but you know. Yeah, he's like literally like one of the nicest guys ever. You know, it can sometimes be frustrating because there's people you meet and you're like, this person legitimately could be an asshole

and that would be totally normal. And then they're not, they're just super nice. And he is like the epitome of that. I also think too, it's like, you know, I, I, I, you should be like a beacon of hope for people who struggle with addiction because it's pretty open about the fact that he stopped drinking 14 years ago.

And you can do the same thing. You look at pictures of like, you know, Chris Hardwick, you know, drunk, you know, or somebody that you see pictures of what, you know, what he looked like back then looks entirely different than he does now 14 years later. You know, he looks like a million bucks has a show in NBC and everything else.

So look at fucking Robert Dany Jr. Yeah, man. But that guy's frozen in time now because he's healthy. Yeah. He's in his 50s. He's fucking Iron Man. It's weird, right? No.

Yeah. He also got like, I think like $250,000 because nobody wanted to employ him for the first Iron Man. Even though John Favre was like, this is brilliant. That he's, you know, he's brilliant choice for it. He had like next to nothing, but then that opened the door to the fact that they had to renegotiate a contract with him. And he's like, I want 40% of the re-eventures movie

from now on. That's all the reason why Iron Man appears in every fucking movie they make from the Marvel franchise. Did you, did you like Spider-Man? I did. I did. I feel like there's a caveat.

No, I did. I feel like there's a, I feel like you're gonna say you didn't. I thought I was phenomenal. I thought Tom Holland was the best Spider-Man I've ever seen. Absolutely. I thought like there's a caveat. No, I did. I feel like you're gonna say you didn't. I thought I was phenomenal. I thought Tom Holland was the best Spider-Man I've ever seen. Absolutely. I thought it was the first time I didn't realize that they'd never hit the tone perfectly until I saw that movie.

You know what it was to me? It's kids moving. It's different between Spider-Man and Spidey. And he's Spidey. He's Spidey, you're right. Yeah, that's a good deal with the white person. Cracking, you know, jumping around. It's, I really liked it a lot.

I thought that totally that movie was perfect. I'm always amazed though, like, the villains they like draw out, because Spider-Man in particular, some of the worst fucking villains are like, cause it's all from the 50s and 60s, like Mephisto. He's not like Iron Man bad, but he's pretty bad. Well, Iron Man suffers from the problem

that a lot of Marvel stuff does, which is like, here's the hero, let's just make the evil version of the hero, that's it, you know? It's like, Ant-Man, you know? We were talking about a guy last week on the podcast, and he does these great, like, short little videos about like, JRPG's and stuff,

and it's like, even he was calling that out of like, the Marvel videos. What did you do to make JRPG videos? No, no, no, no, you gotta see it, you gotta see it. It's been too long since we've had that. You can't see this guy, you'll see. I'll show you the video, just fucking laugh.

You'll fucking laugh about it. But we went out to this thing, I wanna, Ellie, I wanna yell at you for a second. Not yelling at you, I wanna have an employee review discussion. What live? So, part of British? Huh? So part of the problem with the whole jack thing

which we talked about earlier, this is a phenomenon that we've noticed at Rootjeeth, which is like, we all had slash job titles. Yeah, then we hire someone to do something specific. Like just that thing, like social media, with Barbara, for instance, they immediately make it worse. Like there's some calamity that happens as soon as we put that person in that position.

So I love Barbara, sultry the earth. You're gonna, you're gonna, look at this face she's making at. I'm like, what is the, what is the relation to that? What is the, what is the, what is it? Well, so, never miss planes ever. So the first time I get in the system that we traveled together, she missed a plane because she had to check it back. What was it not the first time?

Wasn't the first time we traveled together? It was the second time. Second time that she missed a plane. I had to leave her in LAX, had that moment where she was, I was gonna make the flight because she had to check her bag and she was past time. And I'm just standing there, if I carry on. And I'm like, you were like, well, I'm executive platinum

and I need to go, so I'll see you in Austin. How dare you? That is exactly what you said. I said, I'm going to see my kids. I can't miss my flight because I'm going to see the kids. I say, I bet these executive platinum came out. Like Gavin, how dare you? It did.

How dare you? It did? All right, posh place for one second. But I was like, fair. So then she books. I have fucked up and I shall stay. I also got fired from her last show. Gavin, how dare you? It did. How dare you? It did? Alright, posh place for one second. But I was like, fair. So then she booked, I have fucked up and I shall say. I also got fired from her last job.

Do you? Did you? She went to the coffee shop. I tried to quit and I was very graciously fired as what happened and I didn't really realize until I got home. I can't understand anything you're saying. I gave it my two weeks and they were like,

you know what, you can just leave. And I was like, my gosh, thank you. You'll appreciate this. We did all the start of the podcast last week, but she had to do weeks and they were like, you know what, you can just leave. And I was like, my gosh, thank you. You'll appreciate this. We know the start of the podcast last week, but she had to do these, like they give her, is one of these artisanal coffee shops. And so she had to taste all the blends,

like the Ethiopian blend. And then she had to fill out a form like, oh, it has notes of whatever, whatever. Bullshit. Exactly. So she wrote every time coffee on the air, all the forms like she's like, taste like coffee on your tones of coffee.

And that was it. So they're like, get the fuck out of here. They didn't like it. So she came to her here and then she pretty much starts missing plates. So you booked this, tastes like coffee, undertones of coffee, and that was it. So they're like, get the fuck out of here. It didn't like it. So she came over here, and then she proved, starts missing plates. So you book this, she booked this, I don't even know what it was. We would say it like, it was like Bob knew hearts in, but it was a modern hipster version of that.

There was just, it was a, it wasn't even a hotel, it was just a house, we had a code to unlock the door, then you were in a common area. And it was called. It was called new on sunset here. noon on sunset. Yeah, that sounds like trash. Wow.

You should see the alley. I mean, we had to. How much was it a night? Like 170. Oh, yeah. In LA. Yeah, that's like a, that's like, that's a, what did they call those things?

Hostel, yeah. Yeah, that was cool. It was, that's exactly what's kind of stuff she likes booking to. No, fuck it. This, it was. That's exactly what kind of stuff she likes book into. No, this is so unfair. I sent this to you and was like, how does this look? This looks all right.

And you said, yeah, that looks great. Pictures are always deceiving. Like, when you look at real estate, Jeff was going to buy a house in a place called Marfa. I remember, and I was like, he's starting to say, this house looks amazing. And it was like dirt cheap. It did look amazing.

It looked amazing and I thought, I'm going to help him out. So I went to Google Maps and did a street view of it. And it was like a junkyard. Turn the corner and there was like dirt cheap. It did look amazing. It looked amazing and I thought, I'm gonna help him out. So I went to Google Maps and did a street view of it. And it was like a junkyard. Turn the corner and there was a junkyard. It was a trailer park. And he was like, you know, like Jeff said, he goes all in on stuff.

So I think you were ready to pull the trigger. Yeah. Well, you found that like three hours on, that's what I was ready to find out. Deal of a lifetime. And then this fucking place, it's so fucking hot now. I don't know what's going on. Even at L.A.S. hot, they had the thermostat for this

hostile little... That was really a problem. A couple of times. They locked in a little box, you could see it, and they had set it to 78 degrees. So it's kind of not fucking going back to this place. It was this clear box that you could see through and the buttons you would have to press,

but there was no way that you tried though. You had like, you got coffee sticks, and you're like... General's whistle stick, you're trying to like, see me it. What is it with the... the, the, the, Algor, Algor's global warming, right? What about it? I was in, like, I was just an Oregon,

because that's where the family is. Oh yeah. So I didn't go into Oregon every weekend for the past five weeks. Oh, have you really? It's like 105 degrees here. It was 107 degrees last Wednesday. Wow, dude.

It was 96 degrees here. Yeah, that's, that's fucking, seven degrees and fucking Oregon. Where can you go? I mean, what do you do? Val Bard, Norway. Yeah, right? fucking seven news and fucking Oregon. Where can you go? I mean, what do you do? Val Bard Norway. Yeah, right? I was talking with, we went out,

I went to a shoot a video with Hannah Hart, and we were talking about, do you just want to like buy land in the Yukon? Like, I'm sure people are way ahead of the curve on that. It's like, are you gonna, and also, it's like, if we buy land in the only livable place in the world, when that goes wrong, you're not going to go, excuse me,

I live here. This is my own this land, stay away. You'll be bullet food. Yeah, dying people. But this, so because she works in a coffee shop, Ellie always gets the most pretentious coffee, which I appreciate, because it's good. It's always good coffee,

but she went into a place this morning before we left from LA. Obviously in LA this morning. Oh, you were in LA this morning. I woke up this morning, yeah, in LA. He took the A&A in flight or whatever. Yep, yeah. Yeah, the two hours. Yeah, I would take you by the guy in the flight attendant was having a bad day. Tell about people who hate their jobs. But what was the comment the guy said to

you? It was like six in the morning. And so I wasn't prepared. And he was like, I really like the interpretation of your outfit. And I was like, what? And he's like, it's like a commentary on denim. That's what I had. He's for earrings. He had house keys as earrings. I'm like, I like the interpretation of your outfits. I was holding these two coffees.

I just turned around and was like, what? What? And I think he expected me to be like, oh yeah, thanks so much. Thanks for noticing. Trying to Americanize her. She should be like, fuck off. Call the cops. I'm like. Trying to Americanize her. She should be like, fuck off. Call the cops.

I'm like, I interpretation of your outfit. It's a commentary on denim. All right. That was it. So I think overall, how's the coffee? I should have been like, how's the coffee? See plus on the trip. See plus, I would say.

If it makes you feel any better, I was the first person to book travel at Ristratheath and I got fired from booking travel because I booked Gus and Bernie into apparently like a crack then. Oh, that is true. It was like Sarajevo. Yeah, and Toronto, maybe, or Vancouver. So that was the whole.

They came back all pissed off. That's my flaw. But I was told to keep it cheap. So I kept it cheap. It was a... I was told to keep it like, bougie and interesting. So that's where I went from.

I've never used the word bougie. It sounds like Bernie. Yeah. I'd like you to book a place in LA and I'd like to be bougie and or interested. It's one of my filters on Airbnb. I want bougie. Yeah. Overall, overall pretty good.

G.A. we used to go to the last taping of Atmanite though, which was cool because who was on it? Colton Hanna Grace Hellbig. Colton Dunn. Yeah, Colton Dunn. He's been on a bunch. She had one of the best jokes tonight. I'll let you watch the episode though. I keep forgetting it. Yeah, cool, I'm done. He's been on a bunch. She had one of the best jokes tonight.

I'll let you watch the episode though. I keep forgetting it's like, it hasn't aired yet. Uh, blah, blah, blah, blah. Tom Holland, not Tom Holland. What's his name? The guy from a Rio 9-11. He's one of the producers. Oh, Tom, Thomas.

Tom Holland, I guess Spider-Man on the brain. I could have told you otherwise. I know, right? Tom Sullivan. There you go, that's him. Yeah, and like a bunch of other people. He seems like a guy I would like. I would like, he looks like a cool guy. I don't tell you otherwise. I know, right? I'm salin' in. There you go, that's him. Yeah, and yeah, he's like a bunch of other people. He seems like a guy with like, I would feel like a cool guy.

I don't want to ruin. Emofilips? I feel like I'm giving away stuff. Like now? Like now? Comedian, emo Phillips? Yeah, there was just so like, there was people who was the end,

so a lot of people came out for it. And then the audience was all like friends and family as well. Weird out, huh? Yeah. I found myself at a party, not so long ago and he was there and I found out, I don't have anything to say to Weird Out. I thought, I thought, oh, I should, at a party not someone go and he was there and I found out I don't have anything to say to wear it out I thought I should

I got nothing he seems like a nice guy, but I got me like Okay, Gavin I did a sport you're you yeah, yeah, I remember Cuz Gavin didn't know who he was is that true. Yeah, didn't very take it selfie. Yeah sure It's like the fuck it's selfie. Yeah fucking Gavin his Facebook account. I heard your famous, can I have a photo with you? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Wanna make my friends back home, jealous. Hey, so good, it was okay. It was great.

It was okay. What's that? That guy's clap next to me. He's a, she said next to somebody who had like a sonny boom of a clap. Every single time it went through like through my one air and out the other and it was really very, very, I bet you were super British and polite about it though.

I didn't say anything. Yeah, I was just like internally like, why? She and she crosses over. She's like a little bit bulldogish, but then also will be like, like super British and like proper and will say anything, like people trying to cut a friend of us in line today. She was given the side eye,

but then when she sent the phone with somebody and they tell her like we had a dinner For RTX and they try to cancel the day of yeah, when they told me that was for the next day They booked it for the wrong day And so they called me on the day it was I was like just everything set for your dinner tomorrow And I was like I beg your pardon and then I like went there and sent them every email that they'd sent to me and I was like They were like oh, I'm sorry, but we've like we've booked it out for someone else and I was like, that's not my problem. Damn.

So was that the telling you used to? Yeah. We discovered what the most British phrase of all time is. Like when someone says, I'll try to fix this for you. And the response is, yes, I suppose you better had. So. So think you better have. The English accent goes a long way.

Okay, thank you, Ellie. You're welcome. British, tele-british. I've never spoken before. Oh, he's wise. I think he's a big ruse, probably from New Jersey. Just doesn't tell us that. Yeah.

But yeah, so the trip out there was fun. You know, it was, you got just for a Dementia, do you know other stuff? No, I was like, had some meetings and stuff and then Hannah marmed the shoot a video and then when we were shooting a video together, I know it was like the lights were out in her studios and then I came back on exchange,

and all her light bulbs out because she's short. And then from there, I was like, learned that the at midnight screening was that night and like just, do you find when you go out to LA for meetings because I do the same quite a bit, that out on the way home You're like I probably could have just facetime that one. I got to play now. No, my problem was I moved out to LA

I was there for two months. Oh, yeah, and you're like down time right? Yeah, I thought hey, I'm gonna like I'm gonna Really focus on like writing I'll be by myself and all this stuff And I'm really gonna do this and I had some projects I was working on like that are more business related But man, I just like, I couldn't get anything done because I didn't realize I'd built up this backlog of professional meetings and like personal meetups that like just had a backlog built up. For the first two weeks it was like

breakfast, lunch, drinks, dinner, yet done. And it's just like, I gained 10 pounds to go out to LA for two months. You were well. Thanks buddy. And yeah, it just kept me busy the whole time. So I was like, fuck this, I gotta get out of here.

So I was actually having a conversation with Harley, Morgan Stein, Morgan's team. Yeah, I don't say his last name. Harley, Epic Meal Time. Yeah. And last year, sometime, like, we were at an event together. And we were talking, he lives in, he moved back to Canada from LA. I don't know if he's still in Canada, but this was last year's news. And I was at some of those like,

why did you leave LA? You were there for a while, right? He was like, I was there for three years. And I was like, why did you decide to leave? And he goes, I wanted to get work done. Yeah. He was like, I want to make content. And I was like, you just can't do it there.

Nope, nope. Also, it's like, I like it, you know? But I like the people. I don't like the place. Like, I turn around, I really like the LA, but then it's like, it's just like, this last time where there's like, it's fucking muggy dude the place. I turn around and really like the LA, but then it's like, it's just like, this last time when there was like, it's fucking muddy dude, it was so like sweaty

and just like, I can take it and leave it. That's whatever. It is one of these, right? It's like, there's Dushi restaurants there, there's Dushi restaurants here, there's interpretive coffee there, there's a cup of coffee everywhere. There's a barista who tells you.

The best thing about LA is that it's a direct flight and it's two and a half hours. Yeah, that is the best thing I can say about LA is it's easy to get in and out of. I get why people live there. I mean, I get why people didn't for years, but it is super easy to get opportunities and a lot of stuff that gets done

in the entertainment industry doesn't happen in a conference room. Sure. Or you're not interviewing for a position. Even auditions, it's like a lot of that stuff. You just like, you meet people. The problem with that is I find is that when you want to have a normal social interaction, there are people who are never off the clock.

They're always working, you know what I mean? And I would say that's the whole fucking city. It's not, but I get what you're saying. Yeah. I get that impression a lot. Yeah. It does kind of, it does kind of wear you down a little bit. Let's get, I like having an assistant. You had an assistant long before I did. So I remember I talked to you and said, was this a good idea to get an assistant. So, but you know, it's personal.

Is this a sister or a nanny the right word? I don't know. It's like family, a family, the fixer person. Yeah, general. Yeah, you're talking about Chelsea. Yeah, she makes the world a better place. For sure. I don't feel like the chairs are terrible.

It makes me look I'm not fat. It makes me look great. It was super skinny. It was great. You want to go back to the off topic set that make you feel more comfortable. Yeah, for better setting a bar. Not drinking.

So what is the deal? So you've been making fun of me for having a vlog. Every time I've seen you just about, you made fun of me for having a vlog. Well, it'll make fun of you for everything. You have, you have an unboxing show now. Okay, I always had an unboxing show. And I should've seen it coming

because you guys posted that you had a PO box and I go, I know where this is going. They're gonna be accepting gifts. They're gonna be unboxing. So how long before you have private chats for like $2.99 a minute, where you're topless? Is that coming? Jeremy's, I think Jeremy's already doing this.

Is he doing it? Is that what they do on Twitch? Yeah, he's a, you get a baldfuck's.com. Yeah. Yeah. You get the first 15 minutes for free if you just enter in keyword Ruchteeth. It's true, I guess. I mean, it certainly wasn't conceived as that,

but that's just kind of what it's turned into because people send so much stuff. It's been great though, because A, everybody likes to open up presents, but B, it's like, like, you just open up it and it's like, here's a bounce castle. It's like, oh great, that's three videos we can make out of that. That a fucking bounce castle?

You haven't been in an office lately, have you? No. I've hooked my head in today. We have a bounce castle. Oh, that's fucking bad. It must be huge. Isn't it really? It's not super huge, it's big enough. Wow, that's not bad. It must be huge. Is it really? It's not super huge, it's big enough.

Wow, it's not as big as you're thinking. I just put it in and say, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I don't want to spoil anything, but I'll tell you about it later. I don't want to spoil anything on air. But no, it's been great for content, because like, yeah, you just get like, here's a grenade launcher for airsoft. And you're like, oh, fuck, I can blow up a pumpkin with that

or whatever, you know. And then suddenly you have content that you wouldn't have had because somebody in Wisconsin is super creative and funny and thought to send you, you know. Crowd sourcing. Crowd there you go, Crowd sourcing comedy. That's the new modern, new media term for that, Crowd sourcing. Sure.

All right, well, we're gonna wrap up here in just a second. I'm on Twitter if you guys are on the hashtag RT podcast and you have any questions for Jeff. I don't think know everything about you. They have to say, how would they have questions for me? What else do you wanna cover? What do we do?

The question is, what are you gonna be on the podcast again? It was today. That's it. Yeah, I'll see you in the six more years. Jack's has to get fired every nine years. And then Jeff will come on. I had nothing to do with it.

It really did. It was weird timing. It was weird timing. It felt like Trump, like, you know, you cause a shit storm, some gets set up, you cause a shit storm and then you have to rectify it. I'm not gonna get super political because I don't wanna make the audience happy,

the audience loves when I get political. But I don't know if you saw, but Wall Street Journal reported today that Mueller has in panelled a grand jury. No shit. Really? That doesn't mean anything other than they can subpoena documents, phone records, financial records,

those kinds of things. And you can't serve an indictment without a grand jury. And also, doesn't mean, grand jury doesn't mean indictment, but there's no indictment without a grand jury. And you can always pardon himself, right? And always pardon himself, researching that and pardon himself.

Interesting times though. Is it gonna be like this forever? Oh, like let's say, let's say, Trump doesn't get reelected, he will. But let's say he doesn't, he's, the, the, the, people should, before you go any further, understand absolutely that none of this means Trump is out of the lighthouse.

No way. Trump is our president for the next three years, three and a half years, and then he will get real elected. It is eight years, there's nothing, there's no, there's no, if I don't wanna speculate on what it would take. All the hot takes on Twitter won't matter. Nothing is gonna matter, the man is gonna be president

for eight years. That's all there is to it, just resign yourself to it and accept it, and this is what politics in America looks like now. For better or worse, worse, worse. But even like, even after that, let's say like the most, like it swings back the other way. We have ultra liberal present.

That person is gonna be just constantly attacked the entire time in our office as well. No, it's, it's, this is, this is what discourse looks like now for the foreseeable future. What do you think it is? Do you think it's social media that's doing it? I think it is too. I do, I do.

I think it's like, it's unfortunately, Andy Warhol's vision realized to the nth degree. Yeah. It's just like, it's the thing that makes us, it's the thing that makes the ability for us to have the career that we have, right? Right? We were able to have a platform,

and we recognized it very early on, we were very fortunate, but I think also, for thinking enough to latch on and to realize that we could create our own platform and get it to eyeballs in a way that was never possible before without going through traditional media. And the thing that enabled us to do that enables everybody in the world to have a voice for worse.

For better and for worse. For better and for worse. And they had to cut through the noise, and they had to cut through the noise. And they had to cut through the noise. And the only way to cut through the noise is to be sensational and seek negative attention. That's right. And that's where we are.

Even if it's negative, it's like that you agree with, you know, like you're politically aligned with those people, they still have to go to extremes in order to get noticed. It's true. It's a shame and it works. And I don't know how an entire society course corrects for that. I don't think you can.

Yeah, I don't know. I think this is just, I really don't know what it would take to, aside from sadly, some sort of a terrible tragedy that would, or catastrophe. I don't know how you, I don't know how you pull back from where we are. Yeah. The world is a very small place.

It's, you can touch anybody in the world via the internet at any time. And you can, it's, there's no filter. And it's, this is what it looks like. Yeah. And it's only gonna get, it's only gonna amp up. And you start using it. It's such an early age.

One of the things I'm so happy about is my kids are like, it's almost like a religious family where the one generation is super religious so the next generation is not at all or politically that they tend to go back and forth. It's because social media is such an important part of the actually in Bernie layer that the kids are just like, don't wanna do it.

My family is not like that. Yeah, well, I mean, you never know, right? It's like, I appreciate the fact that they're like, flip the other way. But also, it's like, it's important that they know how to use it. It's really important. Well, you don't want to, it's important that they know how to use it because they don't want to be so out of touch

that they can't adapt to the changing climate in the way the world works. But it is great that they're not obsessed with it because it's unhealthy. Now, I think it is. I think it is. And it's one of the, you know, back to addiction talk. It's like, man, if I like, I wouldn't want to see

how many times I check my phone in a day. I just wouldn't want to see it because I just do it without thinking. I didn't have my phone today for two and a half hours because I had to get my screen fixed. So I dropped it off and then I had to race back to the film of video and then I had like a lunch meeting and then I had to race over to get it.

And I was fucking lost for two and a half hours on my phone. I just felt so out of, like I didn't know how to contact people. I thought, what if I'm late for this meeting? Right. How will I let them know? I can't, like, I didn't, I needed to meet up with Lewis

and I didn't know how to contact them. So I had to ask Trevor to contact them for me. To let him know I was coming. It's like, it's yeah. Yeah, it's really weird. And it's one of those things where you feel it every second that you don't have it, but then you also get you feel it every second that you don't have it, but then you also use to not having it when you don't.

Like I had to give it my phone for a month. Yeah, I remember from the amazing race. Maybe it was just like, after a while, I just did think about it. And when I got it back, I was like, all right, way more measured about how much I use this thing. Use a little bit, no, it's a right time. It's almost like it's like the human brain

designed something that works exactly rewards itself. So it's like, it's this thing, it's constantly just like picking up information, little dopamine hits constantly all the time, you know? It is. That's why I just, I can't, yeah, I just, I have no time for social media because I just, I can't,

I don't wanna get sucked into it. Yeah, I just, it's, it's, it becomes so all-encompassing. I just, I know me. I just, I would, I would, it would not be good. As long as you also don't consider YouTube or video content to be social media, which you'd say on the French, right?

It's on the French, but I'm generating content that I'm getting paid to make, and that is a part of my career. And what's that stuff? I am such a seller. And happy to be so. And then I treat comments. I think all people should treat them this way.

Contributors, it's good to go in and look at the comments. As soon as you put a video out to make sure that there's nothing technically wrong, you get a good snapshot, everyone, go in every once in a while to get a snapshot of what the general tone is without going too deep into it. You look at likes and dislikes, you look at views,

people vote with their eyeballs, and you don't go much deeper than that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, there's some stuff too. It's like, we could talk about this on the post show, because we have to post show, sorry. Oh, yeah, that's like 10, 15 minutes. But I was gonna talk to you about the structure

of our channels and everything like that. It's like, there's some things I like, but it's, yeah, it really is mainly come down to that. Like, do people watch or don't? Like, a lot of times they end the podcast like, oh, I like the cast when they change it up, and the comments are dominated by that, but it's like,, it really is mainly come down to that. Like do people watch or don't. Like a lot of times they end the podcast like, oh, like the cast, when they change it up and the comments are dominated by that, but it's like those have less views.

You know what I mean? It's like, that's, there are some metrics that like supersede other ones, you know? Yeah, for sure. And it's like, and people get upset about it, but like this week, Gavin, I mentioned the Gavin and Jack film, then episode of Hunt, which is a show we made.

I read this on something like Subreddit. And people were super excited about it. And people were super excited about it. And you're like, yes, the return of Hunt, I've been missing this forever. This is great. I hope they keep making it. And I'm gonna tell you right now,

we're not gonna keep making it because that video's gonna come out. Proo me wrong. It's gonna get 140 to 180,000 views. And we're just, we're not gonna make it because the amount of effort that goes into continuing to make it, so that the audience, for the majority of the audience doesn't wanna watch it, it just doesn't make sense.

Yeah. From a business standpoint, but also from a pleasing, the most amount of people that we can sense, like people think it's all business, but it's also like we're trying to make people happy here, and people vote with their views. And I get that constantly like, oh, why did you stop making go,

why did you stop making, huh? Why did you stop making X-Show? It's because people stopped watching it. And we're in the business of making content for people to watch it. Money aside, I want every video I made to get a million views. Yeah, no, I totally agree.

You know? Like that's the goal because that means a million people, or 500,000 people watched it twice, a million people watched it once, whatever, they, it was, it resonated enough that it resonated with those people to that degree. And that's a, that's the best metric for me to determine what people want to watch is what they watch. And it's weird because, let's say this, some of this for the post year, the way we measure things as well, that came up on the subreddit people wondering,

do they measure our response? It's like, it's not a way to measure. But we can talk a little bit about the way that we measure stuff with like YouTube views and then average views and stuff like that. And then, you know, something that I just take on stuff is like, I also don't wanna make stuff, I don't wanna make stuff that contributes to the noise floor.

You know what I mean? I just wanna make stuff that's compelling, that's interesting, you know, and it's like, you just want to make something just because, you know, a handful of people want to watch it. In fact, it was a point in time where it's like, actually, we never talked, we never say the word canceled, really. Like stuff goes away, but it doesn't come back. I don't care about cancel stuff. And the main reason I don't use the word canceled ever is because I think it sticks to a person,

you know what I mean? And so I avoid doing that. And when we changed my vlog to a different day and the fucking views, they went down to like 100,000. I was like, well, it's gone. And I was just saying, finally I can say a show got canceled because I'm canceling my own show. And I'm not worried about how that impacts me.

I'm like, I want a cancel it. But then the Evan came up to me and said, I know you want to, I know you want to like just cancel it and cut it, but it's like you here get to look at these metrics. And the metrics was, he knew exactly what to show me. He showed me that it was the oldest show on the program, on the channel. Like, it was by far the oldest audience watching. And I was like, that's, yeah, that's the reason to keep it around that kind of.

Yeah, but we'll talk about more about that stuff in the post show. Okay, let's do it. Because Lord knows we talk about it a ton. Anything else you want to cover in here? No. I was going to say about my flight attendant he waited his job, he was miserable today. That sucks. You remember when we went to Delaware, Sub's like a billion years ago?

And we got a guy who was just having the worst day ever? The guy, the guy, yeah, I know the guy. And I said like, we were getting cheese sticks cause they make good cheese sticks. They do make good cheese sticks. I forget what it was, but it was something along the lines of, do you want mushrooms and peppers and onions

on your thing? I said, yes. And then I go, no, wait, no peppers, just mushrooms and onions. And he just goes, I mean, was that thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He wasn't like he made the sandwich. He goes, I didn't see him doing it. And he had a walk, remember, he walked into circle

and then came back to the counter. I'm like, this guy fucking hates his job. He's having a day. And that's the kind of thing. That's the guy, the manager should go, you look, you don't work here anymore. Yeah, fucking hate this job. It's like, it's, yeah.

You're making your life miserable. I had a flight attendant like that today. You could tell he was like, he was very nice on every individual thing, but he was pissed off the whole time. And like the caper was, he was giving the, hey, we're making our final descent to Austin,

you know, put away your tray tables and your large electronics, et cetera. And as soon as you start talking, it's hot. So it's fucking massive turbulence. And everything's like, like, I grab my drink and do it. And I look at him and he just goes like this. He just goes with the inner comp thing he goes.

And I thought, dude, it's fucking turbulence. It's like this guy was on edge. Like actually, I Jeff, you might have appreciated it. I almost asked the guy out for drinks. Like, I mean, he's just wanna like, you wanna go out and get a drink because I know you're like landing in Austin. It's like, I know you're-

Close some steam on. Yeah, no, you don't know me or anything, but want to go out and get a drink? Cause I know you're like landing in Austin. It's like, just like, I know you're close to steam. Yeah, I know you don't know me or anything. But let's go out and fucking talk it out. He just seemed like he seemed like he was on edge. That sucks. But I never get the cool flight attendants who like piss on the drink cart or like pop the emergency. I just get the guy who's pissy in the crash.

Yeah, sure. All right, that does it. We're, uh, thank you for joining us for this second one on one podcast. Thanks to Jeff Randall. Who's next week? Uh, what's that? Next're, uh, thank you for joining us for this second one on one podcast. Thanks to Jeff Ram. Who's next week? Uh, what's that? Next week, what are we going to do?

Um, I'm trying to think of someone who's been on the podcast longer than you and I can't think of anybody. We're going to have Genghis Khan on next week or something like that. There you go. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, thank you for joining us and thank you to our sponsors. Nobody. Bye everybody.

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