Rooster Teeth Podcast - Lindsay Gives Birth? - #451
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or An Always Open which went back into production as of the recording of this podcast.
In fact, made a bootam so that we can put this set back into place. Not me, people who actually work for a living had to do that. So I- I booted them.
Did you? Yeah, that's true. You think it held out here?
The politely in the Lindsay way. I was like, excuse me, can you please move? I have to put
guys after this. Our one-on-one guest for tonight is Miss Lindsay Jones. Hello.
Hello. Good to see you Lindsay. Yeah, thanks for having me. So you didn't always open today as well.
Yeah, Barbara had me on. It was good. It was a me and Miles actually.
So we got to talk about Ruby and go any conventions, a bunch of things that we haven't
really touched on before.
So it's a good episode.
Yeah, there's been a change for you pretty recently where you were, I mean, officially,
right?
You're one of the first people, if not the first person in the company where it's like,
we're going to focus on what you're doing on camera.
And in this case, voice acting and the voice booth
and things like that.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, and that's your schedule's been nuts
with cons and everything else.
It's been nuts, but awesome.
I mean, I was just talking to Jeff about it.
He was talking about seeing Ruby
from the perspective of a founder and saying,
oh, wow, you were talking about that before,
and we really had red firsts as blue,
and that was the big, obviously.
Kickstarter of the company, this is how we started.
Now we have this thing called Ruby.
It's like, wow, how is this entity become so popular?
And we have this fan base now that we never had before.
And what's it like for you to could have commensions?
And I said, oh, it's awesome.
I mean, now I get to hang out with Barbara and Kara and Aaron.
And we go across the country, sometimes internationally,
and we get to see this fan bases that we've never talked to before.
And to see them and to know that they love Ruby is like,
it's surreal, it's insane. And I'm sure you get people who come up to you never talked to before. And to see them and to know that they love Ruby is like, it's surreal, it's insane.
And I'm sure you get people who come up to you
and talk to you and they know the show Ruby,
but don't know Rooster teeth.
Oh yeah, for sure.
There's a lot of things that you watch.
And I'm like, you watch a go watch a movie like,
I guess there's more awareness of it
because of Marvel and Disney and stuff,
but you know, you'd go watch a movie
and you're like, who made Ghostbusters?
Was it Columbia or was it Paramount?
Yeah, something like that.
Michael was talking about the specifically me
and him went to a convention in Australia.
And you don't think about how close Australia is to Asia,
but when you take a second, you're like,
oh, yeah, it's right next to Asia.
See, the big influence from China and Japan, et cetera.
So there was a big Ruby following.
Yeah, our initial sales that we had for Japan
were originally handled out of Australia.
Yeah, yeah.
And we've been working with Eric Cherry.
He's been working with Hannabies, awesome.
But we had a lot of people coming to the booth
and say, hey, I love Ruby,
but I don't know what this, what's this achievement hunter thing?
And I went, wow, like, oh my God, people know about this,
but they don't know achievement hunter.
Like, that's pretty nuts for me to have that disconnect.
But that was the first inkling I had of like,
okay, we're really onto something.
This is a big property here.
Yeah, well, it's one of those things too,
where also you are a voice actress.
And we dealt with that.
The original founders all dealt with that.
The original cast of Red versus Blue because we started the show.
It got very popular.
We were trying to build this brand Rucherti behind it.
But then also individually, you know, you're starting your own careers.
You know, people watch the Simpsons just like you don't know what Studio makes a movie
always.
You watch shows. You don't necessarily know who voices
your favorite character.
The internet has helped that,
but it's like, I mean, you're probably meeting people
who are seeing you for the first time as well.
Well, the same thing is like,
we're meeting people who see us for the first time
and like, we've had that disconnect
where people see our faces and like,
oh, do you voice Ruby?
I'm like, yeah, I promise I do.
Like, let me do the voice, okay, cool.
Like, then they know, all right, awesome.
But I mean, the disconnect for us is like, you guys we're there from the beginning you know people who know red versus blue
but we don't have that so I feel like I'm I don't know kind of falling into this like like a see
I guess now with Ruby of like this is going to volume five yeah yeah yeah it's pre nuts yeah I mean by
that point we were like in the uh final season of the blood goes chronicle so it's like really such
an interesting show though because usually with the longer form series, we usually traditionally the benchmark was like
about season three. Okay, season three, we know where the show is going to go or what
it's going to do. And we're going to season five, we still don't know like where, how high
Ruby could reach. No, we really don't. No, not at all. I mean, we don't either. Like,
we've asked people about like the voice actress is like, okay, what's happening next?
I'm like, I have no idea. We're not connected to the scripts anymore. Like, we don't either. Like, we've asked people about the voice actress is like, okay, what's happening next? I'm like, I have no idea.
We're not connected to the scripts anymore.
Like, we have some background to prepare for the roles,
but that's it.
Like, we have no idea what's gonna happen in the future.
Well, I do, I do.
I can be from a storyline perspective.
And from a founder, what do you think about the show?
No, we have a really good idea for where the show
is going, where the story's going.
But, I mean, there's always like the possibility of,
you know, we've already added one spin-off series with Cheebe. You know what I mean? There's also the ability to start over the story is going, but I mean there's always like the possibility of of you know we've already added one spin off series with Chibi, you know what I mean?
There's also the ability to start other new storylines as well, but I'm just saying in terms
of the potential of the popularity of the show, I mean you playing the character of Ruby in Ruby,
your character I mean appears now on billboards in Japan, I mean it's just like you know you're
all over the place playing this character, places that we never reached before, so yeah mean, that's just like, you know, you're all over the place playing this character. Places that we never reached before. So yeah, for me, that's fascinating, you know.
I was standing humbling and again, like going back to dimensions, I get to talk to people like,
I mean, big is the perfect example. Vic and Yuri Lohanthal, who's now as Mercury on the show,
is like, I used to watch him in seventh grade and I was like, oh my god, like, anime voice acting,
that'd be the coolest thing in the world is never going to happen though. I'm never going to get to
do that. And now here we are.
And those same actors are coming to us going,
wow, what's this show Ruby I'm hearing about?
And we're like, I voice this character in Ruby.
Here's what we're talking about.
Now they want to work with us.
That's insane.
I don't know to be on the opposite end of the spectrum.
Yeah.
And Barbara, I mean, you deal with people all the time
as well as through the social media job as well.
And then you've also been, you know, a personality and like shorts and stuff like that.
Same experience for you going around
as the actress who's the voice behind Yang.
Hello.
Hey, Barb.
Just sitting here in the darkness.
Sup you.
Yeah.
I mean, it's been crazy going in these conventions.
And like you're saying before we've had,
like I think it happened at Comic Con for the first time.
I was there at the booth signing autographs
and someone came up to me and they're like,
what's your name? And I'm like, I'm Barbara and they're like, who do you voice? And I said,
gang, they're like, oh my god, I love yang. What else do you do? Like they didn't know anything
about Rooster Teeth or us or anything, they just knew Ruby.
Which is a good thing. I mean, that's what you hope for actually. You hope to have people
discover hopefully all the rest of the stuff we do through Ruby.
It's a little bit harder, but tunnel,
I think to get through to the other stuff.
But yeah, the Ruby audience definitely has
some people in it that watch just Ruby and this.
We've had a lot of people who've discovered Ruby
through death battle, the one with Yang.
And just like very round about ways of discovering the show.
The coolest thing that anyone has ever said to me though,
and I think this was a convention
that we were at together Lindsay,
was I used to watch cartoons all the time,
and like me too, like I used to watch Simpsons
and Family Guy and like all these different cartoons,
and we'd look up to these cartoon characters,
like we're someone's cartoon now.
Yeah, like we're someone's cartoon character,
and that is mind blowing to me.
Well, someone tweeted as the picture of a gal Gadot meeting a fan and she was dressed as one
or woman of course and was like, oh, that's awesome. I get like the Wonder Woman movie just came
out. I'm so inspired. And someone tweeted us saying, you're someone's Wonder Woman. We went,
oh my god, like that. There's actually a picture that went with that. It was a picture of us at
a Ruby fan meetup with all these cosplayers. And there's this little girl dressed as Ruby.
And like we're both next to her smiling and she has this like giant smile on her face and someone Ruby fan meetup with all these cosplayers. And there's this little girl dresses Ruby.
And we're both next to her smiling.
And she has this giant smile on her face
and someone put that next to the picture
with a gal in that little fan.
Oh yeah, and about died.
Yeah, we started getting a little fuclept
for sure we're like, oh man, this is inspiring.
That's awesome.
We would never ever think of ourselves as role models,
but here we are being able to embrace that role.
That's awesome.
Yeah, and it's one of those things where we don't, we don't approach it at all like a
kid show in any way.
There's no, there's nothing that we do in Ruby that, to approach it like that.
But I think because of the aesthetic, you know, I mean, there's some pretty violent stuff,
not spoiling anything, but Barbara, your character's been through some stuff.
I mean, literally, and I, again, did not spoil, but I will spoil, it's like volume one, Ruby,
like, literally decapitates one of her enemies.
It's like that's kind of brutal.
I was trying to explain that to my friends who have kids,
and we have a lot of families that come up and say,
hey, I love watching this with my daughter, my son
or whatever, I'm like, that's awesome.
You can get your family brought together by Ruby,
but don't watch anything else that I do.
Don't worry about it, she's not on her.
Let's just forget it exists.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah.
The light burst.
You know, bookmark it for later.
Exactly.
Even volume three, it started to get a little more serious as you said.
So that happens.
And I remember because the show has such a
Like an audience that definitely skews younger than I think most of our stuff.
Mm-hmm. So we did have to put out I think gray wrote a journal up.
It was a disclaimer. Yeah. Yeah.
Like hey, things are about to get a little more serious things get a little brood.
Yeah. Yeah.
But that's also interesting in commitment when we do it where we're trying to be a little bit more PC or a little
more family friendly. Yeah. And it's very interesting to bounce between that and like our normal
researches lives because we're used to making like, you know, dick jokes or like swearing left
and right. And we're like, okay, we got to tone that down. We got to understand. Yeah. But that
goes back to the whole discussion of like, this is kind of bigger than RT in a way or like separate
from RT. It's like, we have to understand that this is kind of a separate entity now
Yeah, yeah, I love that I love the other stuff that we can do as well with Ruby in particular
They can't do with other shows like we can the characters are aging slowly as you watch the show
And you know even with a dude in terms of costume and fashion and things like that you're changing over time
You can't so much do that with the red versus blue
No, no, you cannot what people ask you like okay what age is Ruby now? I'm like, she's 16 technically.
And they're like, okay, cool.
I'm like, what do you, what do you creepy thought thinking over there?
Stop it.
No, no, no.
She's not enough for that.
You're not gonna stop.
It's a bot, but I was.
Yeah.
We know it's interesting because it's also we do deal with some things as we start to
distribute and market the show in Japan.
There are just certain things as a part of culture
in Japan, especially with animated entertainment stars
that are just normal things to do.
But it's like, we find ourselves oddly protective
in a way that we would normally be of real people
that we are of these for main characters in Ruby,
the way that they're represented,
the kind of materials that they appear in,
and those kinds of things.
We're just, we watch out for that a little bit more.
I'm hoping you can mention it too,
but you guys said that upon that early discussion,
it's been like Warner Brothers, Japan,
about dubbing Ruby as an anime.
It's like, okay,
would there ever be an episode where the Ruby characters
go to a hot spring?
That's like a normal thing in anime.
It's there's always an episode where they go to a hot spring.
And you guys were like, well,
well, we're not really about that yet.
Like, they're not old enough yet.
But I'm like, that is, again, an interesting discussion
that you have to have because of the cultural difference. It's like, this is almost really about that yet. Like, they're not old enough yet. But I'm like, that is, again, an interesting discussion that you have to have because of the cultural differences.
It's like, this is almost expected from the show.
It's like, there has to be an episode like that.
But for us, as an American audience,
and an American production company,
we say, no, we're not going to do that.
We'll scroll that role a little bit.
Yeah.
But maybe one day, we'll get there.
You get to capitate somebody else.
Exactly.
Yeah, violence A, OK.
Yeah, which is honestly, I mean, it's a little different
when you talk about characters that are 16.
Exactly.
It is one of the always an issue is, you know,
I'm a parent, as I understand,
you've recently become a parent yourself.
Yes, surprised.
It's one of the things, and Barbara,
I hear you're a parent as well,
that you have a congruent.
Congrats.
Congrats.
But I always get really frustrated
by the difference between the way cultures handle,
and unfortunately, by R the way we handle it,
violence versus sex.
Like, I mean, walking dead, you watch that show
and it's like, there's stomping on people's heads
and stuff like that.
I'm totally in the camp of like, again, now being a parent,
like, I would much rather have my kid be exposed to like,
oh my gosh, there's boobs on screen.
It's like, okay, that's part of life.
People are going to have breasts,
that's fine, people will have sex, that's part of life.
But I'd much rather that than like horrible violence, which is like, okay, that's not people have sex that's part of life, but I'd much rather that than like horrible violence,
which is like, okay, that's not technically normal.
I guess you have these emotions
that make you want to be violent,
but you shouldn't do that to each other.
They don't shoot each other.
It's like, okay, I'd rather there be a sex scene
that you're watching than like a horrible
like Mexican standoff or something.
Maybe that's just me.
Well, you know, listen,
can I give you a parenting tip?
I'm sure you get a thousand of these, right?
So this is something that really did work well for me.
This is the listed it too.
Bernie, what is your parenting advice? Oh, well, here's my parenting advice on that really did work well for me. This is solicited to Bernie. What is your parent?
Oh, here's my birthday device on that. I'm like content and everything is that what you
know kids always they always say like when you say that, especially when we talk about
some of our shows having younger audience, it's because kids aspire to watch content that's
a little bit over the range range. They want to do that. I used to sneak into already
movies when I was a kid. I got a time. What was your first already movie? I think it was
the road warrior. Yeah. Actually, my sneak into already movies when I was a kid. I got a time. What was your first already movie? I think it was the road warrior. Yeah.
Actually, my first very first already movie I ever went and saw, when
So Star Wars fell in love with it, I would talk about Star Wars constantly, drive
everybody I knew crazy. It was considered to be a kids movie. So all my parents,
friends who didn't have kids took me to see it. And I saw it 34 times in the theaters.
And then a few months, or how long it was later,
my parents were like, he really likes the science fiction
star war stuff.
There's another one of these movies to it
and I wish they can see it.
So I took me to see Alien.
Oh, and I was, I think six, I think,
or five and they took me to see Alien.
And by the time we got to the chess buster,
seeing I was done, I was like, I was freaked out.
Oh, that's awesome.
They said no idea, you know what I mean? Right, right. Movies back then were, they opened up. But you love it now though, as an adult. Like you love Alien seeing I was done. I was like, I was freaked out. Oh, that's awesome. They said no idea. You know what I mean?
Right, right.
Movies back then, where was the day open?
But you love it now though, as an adult.
Like, you love alien, I'm sure.
Oh yeah, yeah, sure.
Yeah, my father was the same way.
Some of them.
Oh my God.
My father was like, I hate watch Drassy Park as a kid.
I was horrified.
I'm like, oh my God, dinosaurs are gonna come and,
like, kill me and eat me.
I know they're extinct, but I don't care.
I'm a kid, this is terrifying.
Yeah.
Now, that's my favorite movie.
I love it to death.
Yeah.
So, I appreciate that my father was like, I don't know, immersion therapy, like just throw you in there and get you used to the movie. Yeah. Now that's my favorite movie. I love it to death. Yeah. So I appreciate that my father was like, I don't know immersion therapy
like just throw you in there and get you used to the movie. Yeah, you know, I mean, you get to find out if kids can adapt. You got to
do adapt to. I'll do that. Within reason, right. But what I would do with my kids is as they as they want to watch, you know,
quote, unquote, more mature stuff. Like they wanted to like see something, you know, that was a little bit above their age bracket. You know, their, their, their, their, their MPA rating.
What I would, what I said to him was, look,
there's certain stuff you're not going to be able to watch
that's you can't because it's already in movies
or something like that.
But if you want to like, if you want to read something,
like read a book, that's the place where you can go
to like expand stuff, you know what I mean?
So if you want to read like World War Z, for instance,
when JD was 11, I said, you can read World War Z. And then we can talk about it.
Is it because he's creating the visual inside of his head? And it's like, what do
you say? I just want to read it.
So it was like, it's one of those cheats you have as a parent where it's like, I know
they're going to like stay up to like one of the morning and watch something.
After big night. Yeah. It's like, if I give him a way to do it. And it's like, they
can read it about it. Cause I read a ton as a a kid And I think by the time I was 15 I think I'd read every Stephen King book probably not the most appropriate
Favorite Stephen King novel. It by far either it or the stand. Okay. How about you? You see me?
I did and carry was but I'm a female so I identify with that too. I get it. Oh fuck. Yeah. I'm gonna carry all over the place
The second someone pours blood on me. I'm killing everybody
Christine was a girl too. Oh yeah, it's a girl car.
Yeah, but a car.
Sure, someone can drive me.
That's fine.
Barb, wait, so Lizzie just had a kiddo.
Congratulations again.
Thank you.
I'll have a kid later tonight.
Yeah.
No plans.
In my toilet.
No plans for kids.
Food baby.
No, that's the food baby joke.
Yeah.
OK.
You're catching up now.
I get it. No, I don't think so, which is Okay. Um, you're catching up now. I get it. Um, no, I don't think so.
Which is funny because like I love seeing other people's babies.
Like I every time I see Lindsay, I'm like, please show me Iris like right now.
Um, but no, I don't know.
I feel like I'm too selfish of a person to have a kid.
See how I respect that though.
I respect that you know.
And you said that before, I had to comment, you were talking about that.
I'm like, Hey, you guys ever wanted kids? Like what would you want to do? And you go, no, I'm not interested. I'm like, I much rather have someone say, hey, no, I don't want kids. Then just going, well, I guess I should have kids.
It's what society wants to do.
Exactly.
Like, no, and now you're fucking up that kid's life.
You do.
But I also understand that, like, never say never.
And I am not saying, like, I am never going to have kids.
And that's just the way it is.
But right now, where I am in my mind and in my life, I don't want kids.
I'd say, okay.
So I don't know if that's the right thing.
I'm going to have kids.
I'm going to have kids.
I'm going to have kids.
I'm going to have kids. I'm going to have kids. I'm going to have kids. I'm going to have kids like I am never gonna have kids and that's just the way it is But right now where I am in my mind and in my life. I don't want kids. What's they okay?
So I don't know if that'll change it might it might not
But I probably won't
Sorry mom
Yeah, I was about to say I get a $20 from your parents every time I bring up the subject
Yeah, Stephen if you're watching you're carrying on the family line, so
David what's the chance that that's going to happen?
What that one of my brothers will have a kid? Yeah, even while I think, um, yeah,
his, uh, his girlfriend, Julie, actually, she's moving to Canada. Um, next month,
she finally got approved. She's in the States until she's moved up to Canada.
But, uh, I don't know if they want kids either. You really?
Why should I be up to my little bro? Why should I move into Canada? Might be up to my little bro.
Why should I move into Canada?
To be with my older brother.
You really?
She's making the move for love.
I mean, they've been dating I think six years?
Yeah.
It's been a while.
Also, she doesn't really want to live in the United States right now.
Is it true?
She has the option not to.
Exactly.
You've got to make a political barber.
You have to make a political.
Oops.
How do you feel in there? Are you feeling like your choice to move to the US was a good one?
Yeah, absolutely. I think it's been a very fun six years so far.
Nice.
Five and a half.
I love them.
Made a lot of friends.
Lindsay.
Thank you.
What's your start?
Appreciate it.
It doesn't love it. I was right before barber.
Right. Yeah.
Yeah, I think you started interning right when Michael started.
Mm-hmm.
I started pretty much right after him, right before you and Gavin moved here.
Yeah.
And again, I was still interning.
I was in what we called the dungeon, which was like me, Miles, Barbara, and...
Fungion.
One of the person that came over.
And Gavin was there for like a day.
Yeah, Gavin was there for like a second.
He was like, oh, boy.
That was at the time too.
I was such an asshole, but Gavin dressed the same way as people from Dallas.
So unfortunately, I had the sad,
I don't know, preconceived notions about him.
So I was like, fuck this guy.
Yeah, I lived the hated Gavin at first.
Which is like, I want nothing to do with this guy.
You're supposed to grow the hate Gavin.
Yeah, but I feel bad now,
because I know Gavin, he's fine, we're friends.
But yes, he told me that his mom gave him
some polo shirts for Christmas,
and he felt like he couldn't accept it as a gift, because he knew how much mom gave him some polo shirts for Christmas and he felt like he couldn't accept it
as a gift because he knew how much I hated people
with polo shirts and I was like, oh, I'm so sorry.
I made your mom sad because she bought that for you
for Christmas and you had to go, no, I don't want this.
It's like a scene in Mean Girls where she gets
hoop earrings for Veronica.
I did that.
I felt terrible.
She didn't like this.
I'm sorry, man.
Again, I just hate dickheads from Dallas
and you looked like one. I'm sorry.
I thought Gavin was replying to tweet literally just now with my phone buzz. I thought he was messaging me because he heard us on the podcast. I shot a yogurt commercial. What the fuck is he doing?
Go ahead. He was just replying to a tweet totally different conversation. Confuse this shit out of me and I'm
happy to pass along that confusion to all of you. But Lindsay, you came out of, if there's a traditional route for people coming to work
at a researches, if that exists, it's through TSTB.
Can you call it TSTB?
You call KB or not.
A TSTB, that's what I call it.
Texas Student Television.
Yeah, it was the student-run television station down at the University of Texas.
Yeah, and you started Snake Peak a billion years ago.
Yes.
When I was the first year that I worked at TSTB was either seven or eight people, and you started sneak peeks. Yeah a billion years ago. Yes, when I the first year that I worked at TSDB was
Either seven or eight people and then did we did this massive recruiting effort
I basically pulled all my strings as an orientation advisor for the summer programs and I went and talked to all the
intro film classes like people coming in and we had I think like
300 people the next year like the fastest growing organization or part of it
Love that I think was like 40 or 50 people on a regular basis.
But what were you doing at TSDB?
Well, again, I was doing sneak peak.
What's so nice, funny is you started that.
And now I was working as a part of the show.
We did the office space 10 year reunion
where I interviewed Stephen Root, nicest guy in the world.
And I was like, that's really crazy
that I did it with Brandon.
He now works here and he kind of helped me get the job
along with Miles, because I went to school with Miles.
And then you guys again, were the front he kind of helped me get the job along with Miles, because I went to school with Miles. And then you guys again, like, were the
frontiersman of the whole show. So it's kind of weird how that all connects.
But I applied the normal way. I said, Hey, okay, there's an opening
or a recipe that kind of know about you guys. I knew the shorts before
research. They're red versus blue. I watched those on YouTube, because I was a
YouTube addict. And then I said, Okay, I know Miles from school.
Maybe he can help me out. And he asked Matt, like, hey, there's this friend I have
called Lindsay who wants to work here.
And he goes know each other, okay.
And then I got a good word in and I start interning.
So it's really weird how the networking kind of works.
But TSCV is a huge part of that.
And I really will say, like, you make a family
while you're there of like film producers.
And like, I don't know, like creative bohemians
who want to get together and just film whatever they want to do.
It's mainly a lot of self-starters.
It is. Because if you go through the traditional film track,
unfortunately at UT, it's probably like this in a lot of schools.
It's a lot of theory.
It's a lot of studying other people's work,
but it's not until you get into the upper division junior and senior classes
where you actually can get your hands on equipment.
Yes.
If you even kid.
And I'll say it to the end of the earth is like,
I feel like internships are the biggest,
like the most effective thing that I had,
or like the biggest reward that I had was for my internships.
Like classes are good, but sometimes you're with people
who like don't care about the class
or you have a class of like 600 people
and it's really hard to get one-on-one time with a professor.
But if you do internships like I did with Rucy,
it's like wow, I get one-on-one time with people
who actually work in the industry,
you have to meet the deadlines,
you gotta like adhere to all their work elements
that they have to deal with.
And it's like wow, I'm really like a part of the work process now.
I actually am like immersed inside of what is what it is to be in the production industry,
which is cool.
Yeah.
And uh, sneak peek for those of you who aren't aware was a, it is currently still still running.
It's a, uh, movie review show.
If you've ever seen the, uh, Adam Sandler video that's on YouTube,
or I'm interviewing Adam Sandler for Happy Gilmore a billion years ago.
Kind of like entertainment tonight,
I guess, is the best comparison a little bit?
Well, it's changed over the years.
We would just do straight movie reviews.
I would see for us, it was like entertainment tonight.
And I'm like, let's interview these stars.
They're coming over here to do that movie premiere.
Yeah, we really had a handful of things like that.
And it was mainly an excuse to get free movie tickets,
you know, and be able to go to screenings and stuff like that.
What's the best screening you went to?
When I was in college.
So there was a screening for a movie called Leaving Las Vegas,
which was Elizabeth Shoe and Nicholas Cage,
and Mike Figgis, the director, came to the screening,
and then this guy was awesome.
He was, I look back now, I now know that he was just basically
doing anything good to promote a smaller movie,
which became very critically acclaimed.
And he came to the studio and sat down with us for like 45 minutes and we started talking
to the whole process and everything.
This was a really cool one.
So that was fun.
And the movie's great too.
So.
But then come to work here at Rooch or Jeeth.
I don't know if you remember this or not, but I recall the first time you and I bonded,
we bonded over college humor, hardly working videos.
Yes.
Like we both love those a lot. Well, that's part of my interview. I said, hey, I applied for certain production companies and college humor, hardly working videos. Yes. We both love those a lot.
Well, that's part of my interview.
It's that, hey, I applied for certain production companies
and college humor's one of them.
And you're like, oh, wow, you like college humor?
I was like, yes, yes, excellent.
Good.
We have somewhat of a bond, yeah.
My favorite bonding moment, personally,
was when Lindsay knew you were feeling sick.
All right.
Came in your office with a glass of orange juice
and she says, hey, I heard you're not feeling so good.
Handed you that much. This was so bizarre a glass of orange juice and she says hey, I heard you're not feeling so good Handed you that was so bizarre glass of orange juice
And then I I'll let you finish the story
So I'm feeling under the weather yeah, I had a story
This is back when I had allergies really bad and I just thought it was normally good sick for two weeks a year
so I was sick
Feeling bad in walks Lindsay
With a glass of orange juice
and says, I understand you feeling under the weather.
I don't remember much before I took this yet.
Lindsay also is the best straight face.
Totally.
I've ever met.
All the like no experience
with her lying previous to this.
Yeah.
Everything was like smooth sailing right up until this point.
Hands me this pint glass of orange juice.
I take a swig out of it.
And what was it?
It was all eggs.
It was egg yolks.
Yellow egg yolks. Yep. And I just like, it's one of was it? It was all eggs. It was egg yolks, yellow egg yolks.
And I just like, it's one of those things
where you take a sip.
It's like a spit cup where you take one swallow
but you can't stop because it like draws some more in.
Like, you know, it's like pulling other parts of the egg
down with it so gross.
And then you laugh and walk down.
Like, I should have been fired.
I think about that now.
I was like, that was the dumbest thing I could have ever done.
It's also like, hey CEO of the company.
Have this cup of eggs, you motherfuckers. And then I can enjoy it. But like, holy was the dumbest thing I could have ever done. It was like, hey CEO of the company, have this cup of eggs, you motherfucker, and then I can enjoy.
But like holy shit, like I left.
I remember turning around from giving it to you again,
deadpan, like, hey, I heard you're full and sick.
I'm really sorry, have this cup of eggs.
I'm like, enjoy man.
This is it.
You would fall for it too, like your teeth.
I'm so sorry.
Yeah, I turned around.
I heard you go, in the background, I was like, yeah, I got him.
What is the chance you think that you're gonna fuck with Iris?
Oh, 100%.
50 by weight.
Guys, done or more kids?
No more kids.
All right, like the second I had Iris,
I was like, that's what that feels like.
Okay, round two, round two, let's go.
And Michael was like, oh, let's calm down.
Like, all right, let's do this.
Like, I'm all about it.
Yeah, like the first, I've talked about it before,
but the first epidural didn't take, and that was misery.
And that's what I was an epidural.
An epidural to my understanding, again, like,
I'm no doctor, I'm a theater and film major,
but they cut off the circulation to parts of your body
so that like literally half of you down,
you can't feel anything.
So they just injected like anesthesia in your spine?
No, no.
For my understanding, it's not in anesthesia,
it's you literally cutting off a nerve from having feelings. So then when they pull it out of you, it's pulling out a needle in your spine. No, no. For my understanding, it's not in an anesthesia, it's you literally cutting off a nerve
from having feelings.
So then when they pull it out of you,
it's pulling out a needle from your back.
So it's all still intact.
It's not any medicine that goes into you.
It's basically super acupressure.
Basically, basically.
Basically, yeah.
And I have scoliosis.
So the first one wouldn't take
because they couldn't find the entry points.
My back's all twisted and mangled.
So the second one, they were able to get.
And that was fine, like smooth sailing after that.
I was like, you can do whatever you want. All the six kids right now. I don't care. I feel awesome
Yeah, like let's go
But yeah, once I had that I was like yeah absolutely like I would love to have a second kid
And I really want I risk to have a sibling to play with and I know that's like you can go tip for tat my sister
And I didn't get along at all. I was just another kid. What she presented another kid. What's up? A ball. Oh, what?
A ball.
Play with that.
Paint a face on it.
A pet.
Yeah.
Like a Wilson.
There you go.
What's the hand print?
Spoiler alert.
Men can't have kids, right?
What?
Surprise.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry can actually get kids. Butterfucker. Yeah. But it's one of those things like, you know, growing up
and then now I've got two kids myself,
I've grown to be like envious of the process
of growing a person or everything.
But I also recognize that, and Joel talked about this
and that, you know, bit that ended up being an RTA,
is like the process of labor and having a kid
is notoriously awful and horrible and painful.
And like one of the things that like everyone talks about
is being one of the most strenuous painful experiences
of their life.
As you're like growing up and then when you get pregnant,
are you like, oh shit,
are you like, is this like on the calendar out there?
And you're like, what is this gonna be like?
I'm like, yeah.
Oh yeah, for like months building up to two,
like of course people are sending me all these horror stories
of like, woman dies in childbirth.
I'm like, stop, stop doing that.
Beautiful.
Stop.
The fuck is wrong with you, stop.
Stop, please.
But I was like, okay, that's a risk, that's part of life,
that's fine.
But I totally agree with Joel, I saw the RTA.
It isn't natural to have that kind of calcification coming
out of your dick or a camera going inside of it,
that's A, okay, not natural. Yeah, yeah. camera going inside of it, that's a okay, not natural.
If you're into that, that's fine.
It's called sounding people like that,
but other than that, no go.
Actually having the epidural work and delivering,
I was totally fine.
Again, I would have had a million more kids
totally cool, do whatever you want, that's fine.
So I can't agree with him there.
Before that though, go fuck yourself, Joel.
It was horrible.
I wanted to kill myself. I was vomiting everywhere, and I was just trying to take a nap so I could forget how with him there. Before that though, go fuck yourself Joel. It was horrible. I wanted to kill myself.
I was vomiting everywhere.
And I was just trying to take a nap so I could forget
how painful it was.
It was awful.
But I think that might have also been some of the drugs
like accelerating it, because at a certain point they say,
okay, you have to have the baby, we're doing it now.
So we're gonna give you this drug to like...
How long are we talking about it?
This was like, let's see, my water broke,
almost 24 hours before I actually delivered it.
Wow. Yeah. So they said, okay, the water broke. 24 hours before I actually delivered it. Wow.
Yeah.
So they said, okay, the water broke.
Let's go to the hospital.
I'm hanging out there for a little bit
and they gave me the drugs and say, okay,
let's accelerate it.
Make sure your contractions start more
and that's when like, that's unnatural.
That's when your body goes,
ow, I shouldn't be doing this right now.
This kind of hurts.
So that was the pain that I experienced.
And I was like, no, Joel, I have to disagree.
That was the most terrible pain I've been in.
But after that, second epidural, you know, Joel,
you're kind of right.
You got a point.
But I'm on my epidural, so what am I now?
This care thing is, you can miss a window, right?
Like if you opt out of it and you're like,
wait, no, no, this is terrible.
I need it.
I don't know what that is, but that's what they say
with the second epidural.
They're like, we can try a second one,
but if it doesn't work,
you have to deliver this baby natural.
And that's it.
Like, you got no other options.
And I went, okay, I'll try it.
And I got lucky that it worked.
If it hadn't, I would have been like,
well, all right.
Like, it's got to push her out now.
Which is so funny because it's like how 99%
of everything that's ever been born, 99.9%.
It's been born naturally.
And it's still just, it's amazing.
It's the reason why we're all here.
And it's like one of the most difficult processes.
It could be way easier.
Oh yeah, well the darks are. It's pop out of your shoulder or something, it's like one of the most difficult processes. It can be way easier. Oh yeah.
Well, the darks are...
It's pop out of your shoulder or something, you know?
Yeah, even recently the darks were saying like,
I've known so many like hysteritipically Hispanic families
who say like, I wasn't put under,
I didn't have epidural.
So you shouldn't either.
I was like, wow, that's crazy that women nowadays
are still having totally natural births.
Or like, Gryphine was the same way.
She was like, all natural.
Like, no, I don't want to, I'm good.
Like, if you can make me feel better with medicine,
I'll take it or an epidural, go for it.
Well, it's, you know, one of the things too,
that I've always despised about the pregnancy process,
because that's not where I said that,
but one of the things I can't stand is that the moment,
I would not, if I was pregnant,
I wouldn't tell anybody for like as long as I possibly could,
because the moment people know you're pregnant,
they feel compelled to tell you what to do with yourself all the fucking time.
Oh yes.
You know, and it's like, you mentioned Griffin.
I remember when Griffin was pregnant.
It's like, I would be in the room or like, we'd be out to
like lunch or something and people would tell her what she
should or shouldn't eat or you know, what she should or
should do.
Yeah, I got to be those.
Or even Barbara talking about like, even people who aren't
pregnant, like, it's so frustrated with people who say,
I don't want kids.
And then other people just like forcing their will upon
them like, oh, you'll change your mind.
Or like, you know, people get pregnant accidentally.
I'm like, stop.
Let them do their thing.
Stop.
Like my, our brother-in-law, how Michael's side,
they don't want kids.
They just want to be the happy uncle and aunt,
which is totally fine.
That's their choice.
But their mother keeps like passively, aggressively
sending them baby clothes to be like,
oh, one day you'll have kids.
I'm like, stop.
That's doing this.
They're mother.
They're like, hey, you want kids, don't you?
I'm like, that's kind of bitchy.
Like, to stop, stop.
Leave them alone.
No, that's weird.
I'm comfortable saying that's odd.
That's not behavior.
Very weird.
There's enough people in the world.
Feel like people who want to have more people
let them do it.
Yeah, we're adopt.
Yeah.
We do need more people though.
We do.
We need more people.
Do we?
Well, I mean, yeah, we're dealing with a thing where,
like every demographic, I think,
except for Hispanic is having kids below the level
of the sustainability rate, which I think is 2.2 kids.
It changes as life expectancy grows,
because people, you end up with more generations
as life expectancy grows.
But yeah, you need, I think the last time I read it,
it was like 2.2 kids per family in order to have a stable
population, anything over that you have growth,
anything over that you have reductions over time.
And we're definitely in the reduction territory
from most groups.
And it's like four to make up for me.
How's it going?
All the parties that were way over-populated,
you should have one kid to reduce the amount of people
that we're having.
Although probably an aspect.
But you don't over have what's that?
I think millennials are having less kids.
It's like some art BuzzFeed article.
A Tinder.
Why would you why give up Tinder?
Yeah, also we're not falling under like the expectation of having a nuclear family.
It's like you don't have to have kids.
It's like the end all of like you've reached the pinnacle of humanity.
Like you've had a child hooray.
It's like do whatever you want.
New cares.
I don't know.
They should make a Tinder for people who want kids,
they just want to get knocked out.
You should, yeah.
This is gonna happen, that's one baby.
So people want to put that on Tinder.
They like knock me up.
They're just like, I'm just looking for someone
to settle down with and have a kid.
I want a baby.
Well that's yeah.
And then it's who I just like, I'm just looking at them.
Baby daddy, please, thank you.
It's guys, it's so easy now.
You don't have to have the date to even figure
that part of it out, you know what I mean?
You just put it in the profile and like screen people out.
Yeah.
Why not?
The Tinder subreddit is a gold mine.
You should absolutely go there.
I was like, I've read the Tinder subreddit quite a bit.
Yeah.
So by the way, some female user on Reddit posted her profile.
And I don't know if you could probably let me know
because you have friends who use Tinder, I'm sure. she posted like her matches or something or her like swipes it gave her an alert and she had something like
4,500
Matches or people like yeah, 4,500 people have swiped on you, you know come come check it out or something
It was an astronomical number whatever it is and all the guy's ready like I'm I'm there 24 hours of fucking day and I never get a match on anything.
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So, I have some questions like if they,
I don't know which which which which Barbara,
which which on that, you know, is it right?
Is it except the swiping swipe rights?
Like, yeah, where are the swipe, yeah.
Swipe right is yes.
Yes, I was thinking of the Tinder trailer we did. I just, yeah, I just wonder if like women Swiping swipe rights like whatever this swipe. Yeah, swipe right is yes. Yes
Yes, I was thinking of the Tinder trailer. We did I just yeah
I just wonder if like women when they swipe right if like what's their percentage for getting a match just by swiping right?
I know you know, I guess you could be getting someone who hasn't even seen your profile yet
I know works you're in a unique
I'm fascinated by yeah
What would you think if like you found out somewhere out there in the versus like Bernie?
I have a your babies here. Go ahead. Yeah, that's it like go for it. What's that? I'm just saying like if someone came out there and the versus like Bernie I have your babies here. Go ahead. Yeah, that's it. Like go for it.
What's that?
I'm just saying like if someone came out there and was like hey Bernie I have your baby.
Like what do you do?
What do you mean you have my baby?
Like my kids?
Yeah, you're a baby mama just someone else out there like in the in the.
Somebody used to date the couple of they have a kid that I that I fathered.
Yeah, like a John's know.
You were saying like millennials have had that happen.
Like I've I know and at least like three people now who've had that happen
or they're like yo I'm a baby mama like that.
That's it. I just realized I'm not that's how I'm going to explain John Reissinger working at the company
from now.
And he's my bastard.
He's a bastard son.
He really is John.
No, he's just a bastard son that I have to, that I have to.
He's just a bastard.
But yeah, no, I mean, I like kids a lot, you know?
And it's, it's, I could never be the kind of parent who would be like a distant parent.
I just couldn't do that.
So it would be, it would be definitely life changing
to say the least hope to God they would live
in the state of Texas.
Otherwise, you're like on a plane all the time.
Yeah, and you already have two as well.
So you have to deal with that.
And then you get a separate family
and how do we bring them in?
Do we make them like friends or just give a separate?
Yeah, it's a whole thing.
It's a whole thing.
The whole thing. I mean, their mom remarried pretty quick after we split.
So we can across those bridges of like,
hey, wouldn't you introduce kids to people and stuff?
And it's like, you know, our whole focus,
I was fortunate, we're my split.
A lot of people say they're amicable,
they usually say it with breakups.
You don't always say that with divorces.
Sometimes divorces get fucking, they get awful.
I know they came.
We actually, I would say my ex and I get get along better
as co-parents as we ever did as being married.
And yeah, so our whole focus is just,
it's all about the kids.
It's all about focusing on what the kids do
and everything like that.
And then there's weird, there's weird like,
there's weird aspects to divorce,
which are especially for the way we do it,
it's like we used to have someone who would help us
watch the boys whenever we'd go off and do something.
Well, Jordan, I don't go off and do anything anymore.
So our kids are with one of us,
literally 100% of the time.
Like they're never, even like grandparents and stuff
are like, hey, you know, I used to like spend more time
with them, you know, it's like now it's like,
oh, it's like the moment we get a chance
to spend some time with them, we're off.
We're going to. Yeah, and doing that stuff. Yeah, well, we're lucky that my parents are close by so they actually are maybe saying like they're taking
your virus right now. Such a blessing. You go, hey, you're go like, you know, we don't want to be the digs or like you're
going to your generation in my family. In your family, your generation. Yeah, my family, we have three nephews, but they're all
boys. So that's the first granddaughter on their side of the family. So they're also related about that.
Yeah. So, so in your family, how many, I don't know how many brothers and sisters do you have? I have one sister
Okay, one sister. Okay, you're younger than me. I said no kids. Nope. So on your side of the family
This is the first kiddo in that generation. Yes, and we only have one boy cousin who's like the saving grace of the family
You're gonna carry on the lineage, but he doesn't isn't dating anyone around that he wants kids
It also it's just us right now. That's so funny to me because my family's the exact opposite.
Where in my generation of my family,
there's like 12 kids, one girl.
Really?
Yeah, that's it.
That's Michael's family.
It's all guys.
So we're like, we had no idea what I was going to be.
We're like, oh, we don't know.
But like, you know, we wanted a daughter for a while.
Michael wanted a daughter and luckily, like,
we kind of joke that we will turn to existence. So maybe that is the case.
Yeah. We just got lucky. So we have a daughter. We're very happy about that. But I think both sides
of the family are happy because again, this is the first granddaughter grandchild at all on my
side of the family. And then for his, it's like, oh, first granddaughter, you're like, okay,
there's some, you know, stereotypical differences between the genders. So they're excited about that.
Yeah. Yeah. I asked me whatever So they're excited about that. Yeah.
I asked me whatever she wants.
That's fine.
Yeah.
Man, I just.
I told Lindsay early on in her pregnancy
that I thought it was gonna be a girl.
Yes.
Wait, I think before you guys even got the...
We had some guesses too.
And Jeff guessed it was girl too, also.
Yeah.
I looked at you, I was like, it's a girl.
It's gonna be a girl.
And you're like, ah, we'll see.
Maybe.
We're very happy.
We just were convinced that it was gonna be a boy
because Michael's family was boys.
We're like, all right, just accept that it's a guy.
That's fine.
Whatever, happy baby.
But then when we found out it was a girl,
we're like, okay, now we can kind of indulge in like,
yes, like we kind of wanted this.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Some dreams do come true, hooray.
Yeah.
And as we go forward and things progress,
things change and the things we talk about change as well,
but one of the first experiences I had with people
just starting to discuss gender,
and because it's not something that when I was growing up,
it was pretty solid, pretty linear.
And I remember you guys did a gender reveal,
and there was like negative feedback for them,
like, what is this?
Yeah, well even though we specifically said,
we're like, this is a sex reveal,
we understand that like, you know,
again later on she says, hey, I feel like I identify as this gender, we say, well, even then we specifically said, we're like, this is a sex reveal. We understand that, like, you know, again, later on,
she says, hey, I feel like I identify as this gender,
we say, okay, whatever.
Like I could not care less do what you want.
So we want to be specific of like, as this baby is born,
this is what her physical sex is.
This is what her anatomy is displaying.
So that's what we're going to say.
She is for now.
If she decides that she does not identify as that later, a, okay But even then that wasn't enough for people. And I feel like the
biggest complaint I got was you shouldn't be talking about your baby's genitals because it's too
sexual. Like now we're entering a realm of pedophilia that shouldn't be discussed. So I was like, I
don't, don't project that. Yeah, it's like what? Like, I, hmm, I feel like I was thinking that but you.
Yeah, exactly. A moment to pause and reflect on that. Yeah, you're being kind of creepy too. Like, I mean, like any, any baby's gonna have some form of genitalia. I feel like no one's thinking that but you yeah exactly a moment to pause and reflect on that yeah you're being kind creepy Yeah, too like I mean like any any babies gonna have some form of genitalia
I feel like we should be able to discuss this and not be weird about it
It felt very similar to like people who yelled at me about
Advertising for the vagina monologues in college and they were like don't swear
I'm like is vagina swear word like are we at that point when I where you can't say penis without being like oh my my virgin ears
Oh my god really don't say it. Yeah, it was weird. Yeah.
Well, you also, how do you deal with negative feedback?
Because you're also in unique position because you're one of the first
females we ever put on camera specifically with our gameplay stuff.
And that is, I mean, correct me from wrong.
It's notoriously a very difficult place for females to establish themselves.
Yeah.
In those, in those realms, not ours in particular,
but just gameplay in general.
It's like this weird uphill battle.
And you know, Ashley, you know,
she came into the pro gaming route
and you know, specifically with the frag dolls.
You know, she had it from,
I watched a screen savers on tech TV,
he was a sold TV show and they were on there
and it was so crazy here to talk about the wig.
Like Kevin Pereira and Kevin Rose of Dig, they were talking to Morgan
about the frag dollars in their mission.
It was like, they were saying things like, yeah,
but girls also do play games and one day, you know,
that won't be a big deal to people
and we're getting our message out there.
And it's like, and everything Kevin Pereira was asking
was like, but you know, do you like really play games
and all the same thing?
It was so crazy.
It's like, it seems like it's from 1955.
And it was like 2008.
Here we are. Well, I think even just in my like compared to my childhood to now,
it's like I feel like nerd culture as a whole has become so much more mainstream.
Where is that? I grew up in Dallas and knowing like loving anime and video games super like,
okay, loser, like get out of here, whatever. Have fun, eager, acon. It's like, okay, buddy.
But I called the table that we would go to to discuss video games in middle school. I said, we were less popular
than the masterbaders club. It was just, it was like five of us that would go and talk
about video games. See, we had the, the you go table where you play
the you go cards in the back of the. Yeah. But that's why I love like meeting people
nowadays who were involved with their culture. They say, wow that's why I love like meeting people nowadays who are involved in their culture
They say wow like I feel like this is so much more mainstream and I'm so much more accepted than I would like what I've been
Growing up with you, which is totally true
So we get the luxury of kind of being a little bit more mainstream and now like you know people get to accept video gaming
But it's totally true and Ashley has spoken about that before with me
Saying as a female in the industry, representing video games as a whole,
it's like, you got to know so much more than your male counterparts,
or be able to back up like any opinion that you have with an,
an infinite amount of evidence so that you can be able to say,
like, hey, I also am educated on this subject.
And like, by all means, I'm, I'm by far not a video, like a good video game player
at all. But like, it is very difficult to even come in and say,
hey, I'm going to shoot and I'm like, okay, cool.
Like, well, what do you play?
Let's go down like the interview slot of like what we have
for you.
I'm like, okay, I just like playing video games calm down,
but there is some one of a stigma for women, especially.
And I feel like it's shitty, but we're overcoming it.
And we're so close to it.
I feel like we're so close to the equality
that we want to achieve.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's just like, to watch and take place,
and you try to guide people in the right direction,
which can't really do that.
Yeah.
You know, it's like with an audience.
And you can just say certain things as...
Well, luckily, I feel like before,
it was like, no, you're not a part of this.
Now, it's like, okay, you're a part of it,
but how much of a part of it are you?
And you're like, okay, now I can kind of like,
you know, dance around your questions a little bit
and try and answer as much as I can.
So, now it feels like a weird interview process.
I want the job.
Let me ask you, answer for you, here you go.
It's like there's a process of earning it
to other people.
A little bit.
Yeah, it doesn't have to go through.
And we, you know, one of my favorite parts of my job now
is developing new talent, like finding people,
like one of my favorite experiences in the company,
of course, Gavin and Barbara coming from the community and now be coming to the biggest faces in the company, of course, you know, Gavin and Barbara
coming from the community and now be coming, you know,
to the biggest faces in the history of Rooster Teeth.
Sa.
And then like, I always thought the example of Blaine
what I walked in and like the moment I saw Blaine,
I'm like, who the fuck is this guy?
Like you had a headset, he was an intern.
So I still ask that question.
And I was like, exactly, I was like, all right,
we're gonna put this guy on camera.
The first day I ever saw him, I just told him,
you can't work here on camera,
I go, you're too good looking to work here.
So, sorry, you see nice.
You're too good working.
They're good looking to work here.
It's like, what?
Improvising.
What are we, chop liver?
Yeah, no, but it's one of those things
where developing talent, you know,
develop a lot of male and female talent
of the course of my career here at Ruchiteeth.
And I say, it's like, it's super simple
to be a woman on camera on the internet.
You just have to be funny and pretty and smart
and fashionable and not ready.
Now everything about everything.
Perfect shape, perfect hair, perfect makeup.
Well, we were just not having opinions.
That's it, that's the formula.
Just do all that, you'll be perfectly fine, right?
So we were just talking about Jessica and E.G.
specifically about like,
if she gets so much shit for saying like, oh, you just have big boobs or you're fancy.
Like, you're, you're pretty. So you're popular. There you go. I'm like, well,
if that were the case, it wouldn't be like a million Jessica and E.G.
is going to conventions with their big boobs and like looking fancy.
It's like, she's famous because of the work she puts into her cosplay
and her networking and at guarantee, if you watch a video of her compiling her cosplay,
you will absolutely take a second to yourself
and go, wow, I can't do that because she's very talented
and she hones in on that.
Could you be using your physical traits
to enhance your abilities or increase networking opportunities?
Sure, but at the end of the day,
you have to have some talent to back it up.
Yeah, well, also, I've always hated when people
will call out other people for doing like doing sexy photos or something like that.
Just to me, it's like, yeah, but this people are looking at.
You know, they were going out and finding that.
It's almost like I say for no one ever stops and says to anybody
of the treatment hunter first, like, guys, you guys look like you dumb.
Don't act like you dumb.
You guys are all smart.
It's like, what?
Dumb's funny.
You know, it's like, guys will get called out for being dumb or bro,
or you know, or like with the cheap amount of two.
There's so many times, yeah, swearing. I'll get called out for that. They're like, oh wow, like
way to be lady like I'm like, I'm with a guy. A bunch of guys to talk about Dix 24 seven,
but the second I mentioned vagina, it's weird. Like whatever. Okay. Like it's just me adding to
the content. I feel like we have the same sense of humor. So who cares? Yeah. Gender's not really
an issue here. It's just the style of humor, really, is the most important part. Women also get compared to each other
in any video that they're in together,
whereas no one will be like,
oh, who's hotter, burning or Gus?
But like if you have two women talking about that.
That's very important.
I hope you got the short discussion, come on.
My burns, for sure.
I'm like, that raised please, thank you.
Well, we've talked about that before,
where like any video that Barbara and I are in,
there's always like people going like,
oh, who's hotter, Barbara Lindsay, I'm like, okay, for us, we don talked about that before. We're like, any video that Barbara and I are in, there's always like people going, like, oh, who's hotter?
Barbara Lindsay.
I'm like, okay, for us, we don't give a shit one.
Like, Barbara and I are here to work
and try and like work whatever connection we have
because we're trying to be professional about this.
And two, there's really no benefit to us trying to like
antagonize each other and become this competition.
It's like, we're only benefiting from each other
being successful.
So while on Earth, we turn it into this weird competition
that we have.
Yeah, or else the competition's clearly so and so,
doesn't like so and so.
It's like, no, that's just what you're trying to make up
in your head.
You want there to be competition?
It's like, no, it's just like the weirdest thing.
But let me challenge you guys in this.
Have you not seen experienced where there are women
that will cut down other women?
Mainly because those spots are more limited,
at least in a perception that they're more limited.
But I think that's also somewhat of like,
they're trained and I hate to say it,
but like there is a way the society kind of trains them
to do that, if saying like.
Right, the perception that's limited opportunity yet.
Yeah, yeah.
You have to prove that you are the most attractive female,
you are the one that they want.
That is why, and especially again,
with like a lot of male audience members,
they're saying, okay, who's the best female
of a chief manager or a rucheteeth?
It's like, again, who gives a shit? There's so many different people. Like, Barbara's
not the same as me at all, or like, Ashley's same thing. Very, very different people. So
why do we have to keep comparing each other? It'd be very boring if there were only one
woman here at Rupert. Yeah.
But you were just started always open if I wanted to hide the other women at the company.
Yeah, get ahead of here. Let me not feature all the amazing, funny, talented women.
Yeah, it's funny because you look like Reddit. There's like the subreddits that don't talk about
Ruecia cheese.
If there's a subject talked about or in other subreddits
about Ruecia personalities, typically about the women.
I mean, even our female personalities have their own subreddits.
There's several of them and none of our male personalities
have that at all.
Nope.
I'm former person, I was like, Ray, but you know,
that's like Ray, I'm really had a personality.
Yeah, I'm a free person.
I'm like, what's up, Ruecia? I'm a free person. What's up, Ruecia? I said, I frequent you had a personality. Yeah, I was freaking out. I was like, my friend, personally.
What's up, Barb?
I said, I frequent the Chris Demarra subreddit.
Oh, nice.
Is there one?
Probably not.
I was just trying to bring it.
We were talking about Chris' baby face, right?
That he's like, he's tapped into the, like,
the genetic lotto win.
I have no idea how old he is.
Yeah, he looks like he could easily be, like, 15 or 40.
Yeah.
It doesn't matter.
And when he opens his mouth, it doesn't help.
Really?
He's not like, you're gonna figure it out that way.
What is it the, the Martin Freeman effect?
It's like, okay, you've got this youthful glow,
but you're older.
So what's happening here?
Yup.
No idea.
Yeah.
He's the most, what's the word?
Or you just can't place an age on him.
Yeah.
Let's just like, my little two, at our wedding,
our DJ was like, so how old is your husband?
I'm like, he's older than me.
He's like, why? I thought he was like 20.
Like, no, I'm not not dating at 20 year olds.
Thank you, though.
Hey, can I clarify something about your wedding?
Yes.
No, what's up?
No, I got to know.
What's up?
So there's the Darts EA where I was trying to convince Monty
not to cut my cake.
Oh, yeah, I was trying to convince him to cut your cake.
Oh, yeah, you're trying to do it.
They make him do it.
Because I thought if anybody would not know what a breach of etiquette that would be would be. You do know I would never some two-cut your cake. Oh, you're trying to do it. They make him do it. Because I thought if anybody would not know
what a breach of etiquette that would be,
it would be money.
Well, if he thought it would be okay.
You do know I would never have let him cut the cake.
I was gonna say, I watched that and I was like,
interesting.
No, okay.
No, no.
Monty was, you guys were outside taking pictures,
which is always just a lull in a wedding ceremony
between the actual ceremony.
The wedding party goes outside to take photos,
and that takes a while,
so all the guests are just milling around,
usually drinking or whatever.
But, you know, Monty was done with our girls.
He's like, I'm still hungry.
I'm like, well, there's some cake right over there.
And he goes, oh, he goes, he goes,
can we have a cake?
I go, I go, let's what's there for?
Okay, I go, just cut yourself off,
basically, it goes, okay.
And he started walking.
And his wife, she was like, what's wrong?
You're like, no, like, does he, like, he points. And she was like, what's wrong? You didn't know.
Like, does he like, he points him
like I'm a bad influence?
Yeah, like traditionally, yes.
I would have been like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
I would have never.
Because you know I would not have been doing it, right?
Yeah.
I guess I would have been like, it's fucking Monty.
You know that if she'd have had stopped him,
I would not have let him cut cake.
Yes, you're right.
I thought if you could come back too.
He just there with his plate. Oh, other fucker. I will admit though
that I did
Tex Gavin
In the middle of the ceremony like hey turn off your phone. That's great what I take them
I appreciate that but he had turned it all the way off all right. So he never even got it to later again
If Monty took a piece of the cake I would have been like fucking Monty doing what he does
I'm sure the mom with the ceremony Again, if Monty took a piece of the cake, I would have been like, fucking Monty, doing what he does.
I'm sure.
The Mon with the ceremony,
Monty does whatever he wants, did whatever he wanted.
Yeah, yeah, he definitely did.
And it's funny, because we were just,
we were just talking the other day about,
I had to do an interview,
we were talking about the first time
we ever heard about the show Ruby.
And I looked for the interview to come out to,
you know, tell the story for me, but it was interesting the interview to come out to, you know, tell the story for
me, but it was interesting because I was thinking about that. Um, you know, when Monty was first
in, everybody had a different point, which they heard it. What was the first time you guys
heard about Ruby? What about you, Lindsay? What about, I mean, we talked about it before,
but it's like literally the first time Monty came out to us and said, I had this idea for
a show called Ruby and we went, all right, what is that? It was like, I want little ride
riding hood and the beauty and beast and Goldilocks and the snow
white to hang out with each other.
And I was like, cool.
What does that mean?
And then Monty just spewed for hours about everything he'd planned for the show.
Like seasons upon seasons, and what he wants his character to do.
I'm like, oh my god, you've thought so in depth about this.
Like, let's actually make the show first.
Let's make sure this happens.
But yeah, again, we talked about that before.
Like Monty. I had a million conversations like that, which is like, so we'll see season seven is like season one. Let's we're we're kind of season one
Let's get the keeper of the Bible the whole show. Yeah, everything you want to have. Thank God he talked about it. Yeah, for me it was I was there late at night one day and
I was at my desk and he came over and he just looks at me and he goes
How do you feel about playing Goldilocks? And I'm like, in what?
Like, who is this?
What are you talking about?
He's like, I want to make like a badass Goldilocks.
I don't want you to play her.
And I'm like, cool.
I, whatever you want me to do, Monty.
Well, the crazy thing was to is like,
we talk so much about the characters and everything
that when it came time to do casting,
we ended up casting all internally.
And I had Lindsey no idea that you had the talent
that you have as a voice actress.
And when I first heard the movie voice,
I'm like, who is this?
It's like, I didn't know who we got to do it.
And can you talk a little bit about your process
for doing the voice for Ruby?
Sure.
I mean, I loved anime since seventh grade.
I'm still a huge anime fan.
So I grew up like 10 minutes away from Funimation and I thought, wow, that'd be awesome to do voice
over, but I never thought it would happen. I'm like, that's a pipe dream that's, you know,
nonexistent. Don't even think about it. Just apply for a job like normal. So I apply for
Rister Teeth. Again, just normal way. Like, I heard you have an opening. Thanks, guys. All
intern my way up. Then Monty approached us about Ruby and I said, wow.
You didn't sound anything like that. Oh, yeah. No, no. I was like, hey, I have some eggs.
Enjoy that.
But yeah, Monty said, I want to make an anime and I went, wow, that's awesome.
Like, you know, we're huge anime fans. I never thought that that would actually be a thing.
And your fan base never really had anime involved before. So we thought, okay, maybe the
fan base might not like it.
Or like, you know, Eastern audiences might go like,
fuck you, America, for making an anime inspired show.
You're not one of us.
Yeah.
So I was like, okay, that sounds awesome,
but I don't know if it's going to be successful.
And then, you know, here we are so many years later.
And we have this huge following in Japan.
Like, we're doing a dub and everything.
Like, it's nuts.
But before, it was just like, again,
like a huge, huge pipe dream
that I never thought would happen.
As far as voice acting goes,
it's just, I was doing impressions of other characters
and trying to work with what would work well
and I threw it out there and I said,
I hope they like it.
And then we did the table reading.
And it sounds like you guys enjoyed the sound
of the characters that was all gonna hope for it.
Yeah, it was incredible.
And the show when we first made it, it was probably, I think at that time, it was the second hope for it. Yeah, it was incredible. And the show when we first made it,
it was probably, I think at that time,
it was the second most expensive production
that we'd ever produced.
It's one of the companies,
so it was like investing all this money into it.
Well, there were only like four animators at that point.
One that was Monty, it was the main guy.
No, yeah.
No, Monty, Monty did so much heavy lifting,
especially on like all the trailers
that we did, all the individual shorts.
And it was a huge investment, total belief in Monty,
and what he wanted to do, and the team that he was building.
And the people won't remember this,
but the first season, not that well received.
Like, and also it was like people for a long time,
and I'm glad, I'm almost hesitant to bring it up,
because I'm glad I never read anymore.
But there was a debate over whether or not Ruby
could be considered an anime, and it was not an anime. Oh yeah, there was a debate over whether or not ruby could be considered an anime.
It was not an anime.
Oh yeah, there was a huge thing on Reddit, really.
It was banned from, like, Ruby discussion.
On the top of the anime subreddit,
there was a giant thing in big bold letters that said,
Ruby is not an anime, we will not discuss Ruby here.
Any post involving Ruby will be deleted.
And we're like, all right, like I guess now
we're starting controversy, that's cool.
Like, you know, we're getting our name in there,
kind of fucking shit up.
Like, we'll see what happens.
And then we get imported into Japan and get a new,
we got the opposite route, get a full Japanese voice cast dumping over it.
Yeah, some a-list voice actors from Japan who've been in like again,
many, many anime titles that I watched since I was a kid.
And we got a little bit.
A little bit.
We talked about that the day of what they sent us the voice cast for Japan.
Yeah, I was going crazy with all those anime voice actors that I know all of their names
and work that they have done.
Yes.
There were a few times where we're like, barb with this is so and so and you're like,
that's good, right?
Yeah, that's good.
I know that the, I all I know is that the girl who plays Yang was the main character in
Kill a Kill.
And that is apparently a very big show and huge deal. Huge. Yeah. Everyone wants to be
other characters as well. We'll be in Japan is like again, a
list top the line voice actor. So to hear that we were being
done by people like that again, it's like Holy shit, that's
so surreal as an anime fan. And I wonder to have like, there'll
be people who watch in Japan. And it's like, you know, here,
near Takuku culture, you watch it, if you watch in Japanese with English subtitles, that's the, you know, here, you know, taco culture, you watch it. If you watch it in Japanese with English subtitles,
that's the way you're supposed to watch it.
I wonder if the people here who will watch it
in English with Japanese subtitles.
Like, that'll be like the purest way to watch it.
Well, I saw fans that were saying, like,
oh, I can finally watch it now.
This is in Japanese.
I'm like, but that's so interesting
because there is that, that stigma of like sub versus dub
and anime of like, oh, no, sub is better because it's Japanese.
But I'm like, well, I think you only feel that way
because you don't understand the language.
So to you, that sounds like the perfect performance,
but the English actor could be perfectly replicating
with the Japanese voice actor is doing.
It's just you think English is bad for some other reason.
And now we're on the opposite end of the coin.
We're like, they talked about doing a Chinese dub.
They said, okay, would China be interested
in doing a dub in Chinese?
And they said, no, we want the English voice actors
because they prefer that over Chinese.
I'm like, oh, it's so interesting that that's like,
it kind of happens the world around.
I guess, yeah.
I was just talking, if you were talking before this,
that most of the, or a lot of the traditional American superheroes
are now playing like British actors.
Yeah.
Because Tom Holland, good looking fellow Tom Holland.
Yeah.
But you're a fan too.
British kid, you know, Chris Hemsworth, I guess Thor's not,
you mean, make sense, because Thor's not a
really American.
But it's crazy though.
I guess he would Nordic person being played by an
Australian.
But yeah, it's crazy like how many British actors play
American superheroes, but most people don't know that
they're British in any way. Well, I'll cover, well, like, I but most people don't know that they're British
in any way.
Well, I covered, I mean, I don't know the actor's name,
but Carl from Walking Dead, or not Carl,
his father, Rick, is also British.
Yeah, well, one of them.
Yeah, I'm trying to think of his name,
and I can't think of his name.
Yeah, also, again, like fantastic Southern
and Southern draw, I guess.
Patrick, who's the guy who plays Rick
on Walking Dead, anybody?
Andrew, what? Lincoln, Andrew Lincoln. Thanks for nothing, I guess. Patrick, who's the guy who plays Rick on Walking Dead Anybody? Andrew, what?
Lincoln, Andrew Lincoln.
Thanks for nothing, fuckers.
All right.
Ellie had it, it was like a real fight.
Yeah, he was in love actually.
He's the dude holding the cards at the end of the live.
Actually, that is him.
That's Rick.
No shit.
And then he's got his next other thing.
So Ellie, I have a question for you.
You wanna jump in here?
Is I have a theory that the reason why British actors
can play an American accent and it's totally
believable is because Britain probably has the highest concentration of accents in the
smallest area possible.
So like your accent is what?
We have the most regional accents I think of any country.
Like what's your accent?
My moves to be RP Southern.
What's RP mean?
I think it means royal pronunciation. Royal
pronunciation? I think that's what it actually means. It's something like that. That's just what it
is just to say like a blanket normal accent. Okay. Again, going back to like American stereotypes,
you sound like Julie Andrews to me. Oh, that's it. Like strange. You're accent similar to riots a little bit. She sells, so I'm going to sell for London.
More say she's more South London.
There's London, there's South London, there's Manchester.
Well, I actually grew up in Kent when most people do not speak like me.
How do they speak?
So apparently, Chattam and Ken is where the term Chav originated.
Oh, really? Chattamin Ken.
Oh, I met you.
Whatever.
What suits.
Yeah.
So, that's the thing.
I think because people grow up in the UK, they immediately, or they grow up with this
inherent ability to imitate other English accents that doing an American is they have
so much practice doing other accents that it's more of a label.
Whereas Americans would hide that. We basically have Southern and then the rest of America. Maybe New York. sense that doing an American is they have so much practice doing other accents that it's more believable.
Whereas Americans would hide that we basically have southern and then the rest of America.
Maybe New York.
When it's faster than most different, Boston, New Jersey, and New York, but I can't, they
all sound the same to me.
So that ended up coming back just terrible for Dr. Strange.
He's like, what have you done to my hands?
Penguin.
Do you have influence from other countries too?
Because right, what saying she has family members from Germany and they influence her accent
too.
So I'm going to be the same.
Yeah.
No, I'm definitely, I'm like, I'm a parrot.
If I go to another English speaking country, I, if I very quickly find myself changing the
way I speak.
I find I change the cadence.
Yeah.
Like I match the cadence of whatever.
Like I remember.
As a theater student.
As a theater student.
Yeah.
Theater has ruined me. If I talk to anyone with an accent,
I start to emulate it.
And I'm like, I'm not making fun of you.
I'm so sorry, this is just natural.
It's gonna happen.
So I apologize, Ellie.
If I talk to you like British person.
I think it's some people do that out of like a courtesy
that they don't realize that they're doing.
So it's to make other people feel more comfortable
by emulating the way they speak.
What's out we all learn to speak?
Yeah.
Is by just emulating what we hear, you know?
That's why accents get passed on, right? The worst for me is when I talk to females who are
very hyper and energetic. They're like, Oh my God, I'm so excited to see you. I'm like, wow,
yeah. Oh my God. We're here. Right now. We're in front of each other. Wow. Okay. So I have a
thing. I think I talked about the podcast before, but everything where my Southern accent
it lives in Texas now for most of my life, well over most of my life. And the only time I have a Southern accent
is when I'm in surrounded by other like good old boys,
basically.
So when I work in the telecom industry,
happened all the time.
Or very specifically, if I ever go to buy a car,
I have a Southern accent.
And Ashley pointed out to me and I'm like,
yeah, I just always happen to me.
Do you think it's more intimidating?
They're good old guys.
No, it's more friendly.
It's more like kind of just like part of the group.
I can feel you, especially as a female,
going to repair shop where you're like,
okay, I kind of like have to make sure
that instantly people know that I know what I'm talking about.
So I'm like, all right, look, here's my forage.
I got this over here.
It was the 2011, it's a silver, it's over here.
And they're like, okay, that's great.
You all right?
I don't know.
It breaks down the barrier of like, okay,
you know what you're talking about.
Yeah, yeah.
Like weird sexism for me.
I'm fixing a bio-car.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it's funny because Robbie K who plays
the main character in Blood Fest is British.
Yeah.
He's playing an American kid.
What kind of British?
South-Answer?
What flavor?
What flavor?
I don't know, he kind of sounds like you.
Yeah, yeah.
Just regular, southern regular Southern regular.
But it's one of those things like,
because you probably met a lot of people with those accents,
like yeah, we have the Jersey accent,
we have the Boston accent here for regional dialects,
but growing up as Kim Texas,
I didn't run into people from Boston,
it's like half a world away, you know,
this country's so big, but this is all like just the UK.
There are towns in Yorkshire that are next
to each other that have different accents.
Really?
Well, what's happening?
I don't know.
That would have blown my mind.
Again, I talk to Michael all the time about like,
I do an accent.
He's like, that's New York.
Okay, calm down honey.
I'm like, you call the same to me.
It's the same shit.
Like, I don't know.
You hold your eyes a little bit.
You don't say your ours.
That's like Northeast for me.
So I don't know if it's the same for you
or there's like specific things you can point out.
You're like, that's what we do.
That's different than everybody else. It's true
And the people in New York and New Jersey accents and they can do like Brooklyn and stuff like that
It's they understand because they're all right there around each other. You know for us. It's like
Different main difference between Southern and and Northern English is just how you do your your vowels
That's like the you know if you don't snow and all that
is just how you do your vows. That's like the, you know, if you jump snow, you know,
all that.
That one's new.
Yeah, Gavin makes one of my arse.
Was it, when Gavin does his American accent,
it's very heavy arse, like the fire brush.
So over there, water, water.
Yeah, exactly.
I have to do that now at restaurants.
If I'm like, excuse me, can I get to water?
People are like, what?
Then I'm just gonna, like, can I get a water?
I need to do it.
I do the same thing.
It's so weird.
Yeah. You're really lazy. Oh, no, no, no. What? And they're like, what I get a water? I need a water rule. I have to do it. I do the same thing. It's so weird. Yeah.
You're really lazy.
Oh, I'm like, what?
And they're like, what?
And I'm like, water.
Yeah, and get it.
So you're like, you're really lazy
and you're too good to be here right now.
Hi, can I have some water?
Water.
Thank you.
I'm like, really, part.
Sorry, I can feel a root of waiters and waitresses
when it's just like, they just look at them.
They go, water.
And that's a couple of things.
Dude, you've asked me before this show, you're like, what's something that would piss you off
that we could talk about?
I'm like, that specifically is something that pisses me off
as people being rude to wait staff.
And I've seen that before, they're like, I want this.
No, thank you.
No, please, no, nothing.
I'm like, motherfucker, this person's been waiting
on you all night.
You say, thank you or something.
I have a lot of thoughts on this.
Let's save that for the post show.
We're about to wrap up here.
Let's definitely, then I'll be our topic for the post show.
We'll be talking about
Rudeness in public, especially with Wagers and Wages. Yes, you two one last question on accents before we wrap it up for tonight
What's up, anime?
English is there any words that you have changed your pronunciation of because you're just sick of being called out on it? Yes
Aluminum I put many things
Against yeah, what you yeah, I used to say it against and
Tuesday I say choose Tuesday. Do you still say adult?
I do say adult. Nice. I say adult now. So I now I say adult. I say Tuesday and I say against. I
say YouTube and the other day my sister was like no, you tube. See I like the British YouTube
YouTube YouTube happens in Tuesday. Now I'm like I I like for YouTube company because it's just easier. Yeah
Yeah, yeah
Internet
They go received pronunciation
Okay, so the the
Schedule though you're sticking with schedule. We talk about schedule school. Oh, you sounds cooler. I'm diary instead of calendar
There we go. Yeah, actually keeps my diary
Just sounds too personal today. I talked to a boy
For the full funchal snogging what's the book I can't remember like Agnes something in full funchal snogging
Song songs in full funchal
This like that I kissed a boy. It was great. That's bans. I
Got it. That's all the entries that she makes for me. He tried to get into my toilet and I said no
She got it, that's all the entries that she makes for me. He tried to get into my toilet and I said no.
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