Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #102

Episode Date: February 23, 2011

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie, comes a new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-octane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnet, and Thomas Hayden Church,
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Starting point is 00:01:59 So I'm I'm behind the the helm. I'm steering the ship today. You should probably tell people who you are. I'm Jack, for those of you who have never listened to anything I've done before. And the other person joining us today is? I am Brandon, otherwise known as C-Team. Yeah. It's a unique day. The A to M-C-Team.
Starting point is 00:02:20 It's a little terrifying. Don't worry. My burning burns is here to hold down the fort. Yeah, and we might have another guest a little bit later if he ever gets off the cell phone. Hello, I'm Sad here while we're all waiting to start the podcast. Max sitting here on his cell phone, Gavin DeJole, who is also away on another project. It's crazy month of February. The production here at Richtief.
Starting point is 00:02:40 There's like three people in the office right now, and I think they're all in this room. Like if you PS shows up, they're just gonna be wandering all so good for it. I think I saw tumbleweed in our parking lot. It's weird usually, it's completely full. Man, who hasn't been opening the gate lately? I mean, is anyone, is anyone a bug by that? This is a good question. So in front of our office building, we have a two-part iron gate where you can just slide it from the middle.
Starting point is 00:03:03 You do it manually, you can't, there's no button to hit. You have to get out of your car and push it. There's been discussion about automating it, but if we automate it during the day, then UPS can't get in and we get a lot of boxes here for some reason. You know, it'll just open in the morning. They have the technology. It's been invented. It's like magic.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Well, we, I guess, so clearly, Brandon's already on the defensive. I guess we can figure out. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I do open the gate all the way I know who doesn't but I will defend him to the death because the gate is fucking annoying It's it's it's all of 10 seconds. You never open or close it. I did this morning. I open the other half this morning Okay, is that the first time you've done it this month? It is a problem though, Jack, and that if you're one of the people who does open the gate, then that means you're in the cycle where you're always the person you open or closes the gate. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And I do want to point out that you have the biggest vehicle here too, Bernie. So you're the one that has to worry about that. My truck has these mirrors on the side that are just ridiculous. I can't get through anything that I normally can fit through with my old truck. And so, yeah, what happens is someone will go to the gate and they will open it just far enough to get their car through and that's it. They won't open it one inch further. It happened once since Jeff sent that really annoyed email about that same exact thing. Just once. Yeah, once.
Starting point is 00:04:19 This company has definitely out of the point where people don't want to take the time to do anything. It would definitely took Jeff more time to write the email than it would get out of his car and open the gate a little further for himself to get in. But everyone just wants to fire off the stupid email. No, I've watched the recycling bins sit out there for days and days and days. Why didn't you move it? I did, I did. So you watched it for days and days and didn't bring it in?
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yeah. Let me show you. Let me show you. You thought the recycling days and didn't bring it in. Yeah. So let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me That was hulum and what you're talking about now. We should be clear when we moved in here I'm a big fan of a dumpster you put the dumpster the truck comes once a week twice a week They take the dumpster away and that's it. Yeah, but the problem was we couldn't get a recycling dumpster And so hulum said we have to have recycling here. We have to have it It's important so that meant we had to have these rolly-polly little bins Then we roll out to the curb every day a week match never rolled a single one ever ever You're telling me I should be mad at mad not you should be mad at yourself for not wanting to help ever How many tours of you get in the last month one? How many times do you sign for you? viewers of you get in the last month. One? Hmm? Come and get interact with fans.
Starting point is 00:05:45 That's not a bad thing. I'd love to give more time to you. How many times do you sign for you, kids? It's a very clear thing to take these you are equating the interface with our loving fans that support us so much with taking out the trash. No, I'm equating with additional work.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Stuff that isn't typically on, it wasn't on my, you know, job resume or whatever, but it's, or whatever I have to do, but I do it anyway. I would say you should maybe throw in a couple of yourself. Do a couple extra things around the office. I'm an earth human, anybody saying. I don't know what a job resume is. I don't know what's happening. So you're upset with him.
Starting point is 00:06:16 The script. I could equally say to you, Brandon, you're upset about having to take in the recycling bins when the earth gives you so much and provides you with such bounty. That's true. I've said about taking in the recycling bins. I'm not upset. Oh no, no, no, no. I have no problem with taking them out and bringing them back in or opening the gate. But don't bitch about how the work is done. If you want to done a different way than do it. That's the thing is not done. That's the problem. Here's what I have problem with. And this is this goes down to the Can do spirit of this company. Is that when somebody sees something that is not the way that they want it to be,
Starting point is 00:06:47 it always is that thought process in their head of, oh, so and so screwed this up. It's not like, I'm supposed, the cans are sitting out there. I'm not supposed to bring the cans. Someone else is supposed to do it, and they didn't do it. So Jack, you brought that recycle bin in. Did you put it out there? No. You the one who wielded it out. I did not. So you're complaining about doing half the work. Yes. Okay. I'm making sure that I'm understanding.
Starting point is 00:07:08 But the problem with that, Bernie, is that, you know, once you do it once, people expect you to do it from then on. What you're that guy is what I'm saying. You're the guy in your absolute right. Once you do something once, everyone goes, that's what that's what that's exactly. Jack's going to give it to the place today. Yeah. You know, it is true. It has been people just clam up and they kind of like look at the recycling bin and go, if I just don't stare directly at it, I won't be expected to touch it. And I will say the one time that Brandon had a tour because I was busy, he came to me looking for me to give the tour.
Starting point is 00:07:36 He brought the guy to my office like, oh hey, can you give this guy a tour? We're so good at it though. Okay. You're amazing. I think it maybe is this chair. Like I'm sitting in Gus' chair and I want to argue with everyone now. It's pretty great. I think he's got like a spirit here in this area. Makes me hate everything. So the Oscars are coming up, huh? Speaking of stuff that we hate. I hate the Oscars.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I hate most of the movies that are nominated. What do you mean for best picture nominated? I hate all the hype behind the bad ones or the average ones. I don't understand why everybody is on the King's speech nuts. That movie was okay. It was a good movie. It was about a guy who gives a speech in a recording booth. That's what the movie is about. It's about a king who gives a speech just before the war.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Or just before World War II. Yeah, the movie is actually the most exciting time in world history in one of the most exciting places. And the climax is a guy talking in a recording booth. I got talking to the entire country. Yes, they're listening to him about to go to war and to feeding his own personal demons of stuttering and stammering, which are totally within his own head. That moment, that moment might have worked. If the obstacle in the beginning of the movie, the catalyst wasn't him giving a speech in front of thousands of people.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Because that's definitely a scarier thought than being in a recording booth with a microphone. So it's like, what? This obstacle that you set up in the beginning of the movie is way harder than what your character has to accomplish. Giving a wartime speech to an entire nation is easier than giving a speech to a thousand people. Steering at a microphone is a lot different than staring in front of a thousand people that are just looking at you, listening to you. Jack, new feature on the junk tank right now. Improv. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Roll playing. I'm Brandon Farming. Brandon Farming, he knew Hollywood producer. I'm Brandon Farming. Farming out of that life, you know what I mean? Hollywood producer. I would tell a very funny story about that. why I can't produce Brandon's last name as soon as I'm done I'm a part of our multi-million. Well, I like that might be funny that the weather originally was going to do
Starting point is 00:09:33 Brandon the first time I ever interacted with Brandon in any way He sent me an email because Brandon was running the television station where Matt and I went to college and we were part of the television station You started you created that right? No, no, I wouldn't say that I created it. There were guys who had the idea for the TV station. I was there for big milestones of creating, but I was not even a television student. So, but I was there at the time and helped with that process. Cool a bit about there real quick. Paul Leonard actually created the UT TV station and he used a producer on Battlestar Galactica. There you go. Nice little bit of
Starting point is 00:10:03 trivia. Small world. Anyway, we were talking about Battlestar Galactica. There you go. Nice little bit of trivia. Small world. Anyway, since we were talking about Battlestar Galactica anyway. If he had worked on, he'd speak that of him perfect. So Brandon sends me this email because he was raising money for a new antenna. They were trying to do something that I don't remember what it was. So Brandon sends me this email and then we were changing emails back and forth.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And I sent an email to him as Brandon Farne, not Farne Okay, farne with an N Yeah, and so then he writes me back and I see in his signature that it's a brain and far machine He's like, oh man, I misspelled this guy's name. I'm such a jackass and I always feel bad about that Because people constantly misspelled Bernie because I spell it in a stupid way because it's a nickname. Yeah, it's better than you Well, I went back and I was I felt so bad about that because I don't like making mistakes like that. I went back and looked at my previous emails.
Starting point is 00:10:49 He had his name misspelled in his own email. And it wasn't just like in his signature like he was typing fast. It was in from Brandon Farney Heaney and he goes, yeah, sometimes I just make that mistake. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I did not say that. I did not say that. When I set up my computer initially, I had a typo and then I kept going through every No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, It just sends out your name incorrectly. It sends it out. It's not my fault. I was smashed that computer with a hammer Yeah, that's the case. So we have it. We have an additional person the podcast. Hey everybody's mouth So I want to play a Brandon Farney, Heney Hollywood producer here. I ran a farney. Heney
Starting point is 00:11:33 So I wanted you to script notes on King's speech. Okay, I've been working on this movie for a long time I'm ran for a honey right I saw the ending and it was very historically accurate where he made a speech in a room But that's kind of boring. I'm figuring this is the most exciting time in history. What if we do this? What if the Loofwaff is bombing England? And the king runs out to the square and makes a speech and the bombs decide to turn around and mid-air and hit the planes instead and then they blow up and then crash. You don't think he gave a speech after that?
Starting point is 00:12:02 That was during the war. You know, the only speech he ever gave in a life. And the conclusion that talks about after that that was during the war. He knows the only thing he ever gave in a life Well, then the conclusion it talks about he gave other speeches during a war Make the movie about those speeches. No, it's like a lumpin was being bombed. It's Kaley the King's speech not the King's speeches It's one. It's what it's most importantly. He's ever done. What do you think he made the rest of those speeches like on horseback? Well like stabbing Germans in the face. They were probably made in the same goddamn room. I would love that movie. Matt, Brandon's saying that he hated the movie because the ending was unexciting. That because they were in a room.
Starting point is 00:12:33 They were in a room. Just talking. And because the beginning of the movie, he was in front of that. I mean, like anyone who's done any amount of public speaking, even if you're just in front of 30 people, it's hard to be in front of 3,000 people. Or how many people were there? Imagine if he had to say his own last name properly. I'm not that impossible. All right, what are the movies we get? What are the movies?
Starting point is 00:12:55 Are you a meteoronomylist here? All right, so for best picture, we have Black Swan. I didn't like Black Swan, I thought you should have met him on Black Frogs. We also have the fighter. Inception. I didn't see the fighter, but I saw all the other Mark Wahlberg movies that have exactly the same plot. Disvincible. Nope. Rockstar. Double Rockstar. What was... He's made like seven movies that were exactly the same. Down Trot and Guy has a chance of greatness. Doesn't make for whatever reason, but then there's a big, you know, redeeming ending. I mean, the fighter is basically plenty of the apes too. I mean, I was shocked you guys. The fighter is a great.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I'm not sure. I haven't seen it. It's all in a little bit. No, he does make the same movies over and over. That's true. Yeah, but that's that's independent of the fighter. And also, why don't you take it as a Christian bail movie? Because Christian bail is in the fighter and he is. Oh, King Austin. He is really good. The movie is good. The movie is really great and it also is and I am also good. But isn't this the same movie as the machinist for Christian bail? No, no. Why? He looks the same doesn't he? How does he do that? I mean that is an amazing skill to be able to I mean he loses and gains like a hundred pounds Someone read it took images from like like six or seven movies. Yeah, and it was like
Starting point is 00:14:09 Machines machinist to the dark night or what of the first I like that you wanted to pronounce machinist as the machinist the machinist the machinist was American psycho before that. Yeah, I mean he was already built for that Yeah, away from the machinist and then put the way back on for Batman And I think they were starting to film the new Batman right now. Yeah, so it's crazy. And he's gonna die.
Starting point is 00:14:28 His body's gotta hate him, man. I'm sure for anyone to pronounce it. And the machinist, the machinist. Here we go. Here's the image that I'm showing Matt right now. This will be in the linked up. And many crazy bodies of Christian Baal. I'll just read here so you can get into field
Starting point is 00:14:42 for how much he's changed. 2002, he was in Rain of Fire, which was not a bad movie. No, he was good movie. Matthew McConaughey. Matthew McConaughey was the world that's taken over by dragons. Thanks to Christian bail. He weighed 184 pounds in 2002. Then he was in the machinist in 2004. He weighed 121 pounds. Wow. What I read from articles and interviews that he did, he ate nothing but an apple and a cup of coffee a day. That's what he did to lose that much weight to get to a hundred and twenty one pounds. Then when he played Batman and Batman begins, he weighed a hundred and ninety pounds.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Now it's a hundred and ninety pounds of solid muscle. Yeah. You see the picture of the guy in here. Then he was in some movie called Rescue Dawn. Anybody? No. Anybody? Is that a very hard-todd movie?
Starting point is 00:15:23 It looks like a war movie. I think it ended in a small room So it was pretty unexpected That was a 268 135 pounds for that then dark night he did in 2008 went 190 pounds again Then the fighter he weighed 145 pounds and but he looks like a strong out crowd Yeah in the fighter. It's amazing and the best thing they could ever do for Christian Bale is the person that he played since it's a biographical film.
Starting point is 00:15:50 It's actually based on a real fighter. And they showed an interview with the character that Christian Bale played at the end of the movie during the credits. And that was, you nailed it. I mean, I was, he was as annoying in the credits as Christian Bale was the entire movie. Yeah. Yeah No, the performance of the teeth really it's a soldier. Yeah, I just want to do that though because what was the movie?
Starting point is 00:16:11 We saw with the the link letter train robbing movie and Newton boys. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, so we sat through all the Newton boys and at the end in the credits They had interviews with or historians actually talking about the actual Newton boys and stories of what they did. It was like a night show appearance or something. You know what it was? I want to say this was what it was. Anyway, and it was way more interesting than the rest of the movie.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. I mean, the other thing was interesting when we saw it with the filmmakers, like it was like a special screening. And they mentioned that one of the characters in the movie, I think it was like Vincent Donoffrius character. Right. Had a bunch of really interesting character traits. Like you would kind of like salivate and bark
Starting point is 00:16:48 like a dog occasionally and just like weird stuff. Like the real guy that the character was based on. But they didn't do any of that stuff in the movie. And the movie was like really dry. And it's like it couldn't use some of that extra character stuff, but and they mentioned it later like they thought it was interesting, but they didn't think it was interesting enough
Starting point is 00:17:03 to put in the movie for some reason. You would actually hate it because honestly the complaints that you had, Brandon about, King's speech were exactly what I said about Newton boys. You're going to see a train robbing movie, but then you find out they're just blowing up safes in banks. Yeah. What they're doing, and they were like in back rooms just blowing up a safe, and it was not that big a deal. Yeah, it was like the most business like dry Way to rob a
Starting point is 00:17:33 Bank or you know any like amount of large money that I've ever seen. I now have to look at skit all rich He was in the screen movie right that's where you got to start you know Who else was in that movie it was a newton bless. Oh, oh, it was a mucon hair, right? Joel Hamon really Joel's I'm pretty sure Joel is in a background scene in a movie we need to have a Joel Hamon movie marathon. Yeah, well, he's been he was in that sim one movie with Al Pacino, right? Yeah, he's got a pretty good On screen we're gonna write her yells at him or something I'm seeing it. He's sitting Joel is in a scene with when owner rider and Al Pacino while they're yelling at each other and Joel's standing between the two of them yelling at each other.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Pretty funny. It's pretty funny. Alright, so we move down. We're going to move down. We got an inception. Inception. I thought inception was great and I feel like it's been so long since it came out that always hinders the movie's chances for winning.
Starting point is 00:18:20 Usually the movies that win seem to come out like they're trying to holiday time. Yeah, exactly right before the turn of the year. Yeah. But I mean, sections are really great movies. Really thought provoking and really fun. I had a lot of cool visuals. Yeah, for all of you, you know, it's still a damn good movie, you know. It would be kind of an interesting statistic to see what is the movie that won Best Picture that was released the earliest in the year. Yeah. And made it all the way through relevancy to the following year to be nominated for Best Picture and then win.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Did the issue a few years ago, Cinder Relemann was released in March and no one saw it, but it was a fantastic movie. I'm a Russell Crowe's boxer. Yeah, I remember that that movie had a money back guarantee. Like it came out at a time when like theater revenue was declining I guess and it right before it said oh wait let's make 3D movies again and put those like that that'll be something new. The theater revenues were
Starting point is 00:19:14 declining and they had this policy of come see send a relevant in the theater and you'll like it or your money back. I don't want the same like policy of like buying a used car. It's going to see a movie you know it doesn't seem strange right? It also though is it's strange to me that of all the products in the world you can not get your money back For not liking a movie like if I spend ten bucks and two hours in my life I It's totally okay that I hated it. Yeah, that was terrible It's like I've never occurred to me
Starting point is 00:19:40 I need to go get my money back because scream was scream four was the worst movie I've ever seen in my life. It's weird, because it's like a subjective thing. You know, it's like, I didn't like the movie. So I have my money back. You know, seems weird in a way, but if you go to a restaurant and you order something, it's like, this tastes terrible. Just to me, you know, I want my money back.
Starting point is 00:20:00 It's like, they usually give you your money back or like, strike it off the bill or whatever, you know? You know, the only time I've ever sent a meal back was with you and I did it just the other day It was at the only time ever. I've never sent a meal back Would you send back? I got a I got a chicken fajita taco at a local Mexican restaurant And it tasted like they fried it in chlorox it really did and they said they said it was it It's a place where they just grill over a wood burning stove. Yeah, and a nice place We eat there at the time and I've never had a bad meal there
Starting point is 00:20:27 But they said they must have just had a really green piece of wood and of course might me and like wow This is like chemicals and might actually be dangerous for me Matt try Where is the guys like I think this milk might have gone bad take a big swig of it find out All right, so moving on to this so speaking of the whole release later, you know, typically shows up higher Yeah, the kids are all right, which came out this summer, I think, right? Yeah, that's that's the Julian more Yeah Yeah, I did see it is yeah, it's Mark Ruffalo the new Hulk that that makes no sense that he's the new Hulk Or that they're making a whole another Hulk movie. They're making the third why are they doing it? It's like the first guy we got to play it wasn't milk toast enough, you know, so they went down to
Starting point is 00:21:09 Edward Norton and there is a bandia is milk toast. Yeah, he's like more so than like some of the other like, you know, how does milk toast mean? You don't know what milk toast is. No, is that like a fish? Make sure you guys used to say when you were young. We tried to make it spell it. It's the thing we used to eat. But it's like they want to make, I know they want to make the whole click so sensitive or something. It's really weird that what they're doing with that. I thought I thought the incredible whole,
Starting point is 00:21:34 which is the second one was actually a pretty good movie. The Edward Norton. Yeah, yeah. I think the work, it was more like the TV show, or it was more about him on the run type thing. But. The Winkipedientry from both toast is not helping Matt and TV show or was you know more about him on the run type thing but But we can be injured from both tests not helping Matt nice case. No a milk toast is a weak
Starting point is 00:21:53 ineffectual or bland person it is derived from the character Casper milk toast from the The timid soul Wait, we join the adventures of Casper milk toast now and back So ready to fight you right that might be a day to go tonight's episode. He reads a speech in a small room Casino. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Incredibly original. I don't think I've ever seen a movie that was about that exact thing I know it's about two a lesbian couple each one had a child with the same sperm donor and the kids turn 18 Or at least one of them does and they look up the sperm donor donor and that's Mark That's Mark Ruffalo. Okay, and you kind of expect like these cliche reactions, but they you're really surprising It's it's it's a it's a good movie. Is there a slow motion dancing scene at one point probably not movie take the kids to but Why not they're all right a lot of a lot of leasing and
Starting point is 00:22:57 And Some gay porn surprisingly you really don't expect a gay porn They throw it out there. Really the normal theatrical series? No, it's not. They cut the rations. Pop up on you. I had a gay porn movie trap one time when I was in college.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I had a roommate who was gay and I would always use his TV and VCR because he was never around. He was always on trips. He was actually trying to get into a movie with Al Pacino. Yes, he was. Yes. Yes. He was starting to get into, he wanted to be a tap dancer at Walt Disney World.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Oh, nice. And every morning at five, he would wake up and tap dance. Oh, so that was great for me. Was this a dorm or is this a go-to? This is a dorm. This is a dorm. I could not create anything more gay than that. I know, I know. I want to be a tap dancer at Walt Disney World.
Starting point is 00:23:52 And so I would always use his TV and BCR and like one time I just came home and like turned on the TV and I guess the tape was still playing and it was something called Bat Dude. It was like a batman Robin themed Jay porn. And I told I'd say about it. It was like most or two hours.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Like later. You got real. Two or two seconds. No, do you guys all watch Tosh. 0? Have you guys ever seen that show? No. Okay, they did something pretty funny where it was a Tosh and like
Starting point is 00:24:23 four other male writers were wearing sweatpants Standing on a table. They all took a Viagra and then turned on gay porn and they were trying to see who would go fresh Back to awesome. Yeah, it was pretty neat and then it's basically all held their own not like everyone held it in for 90 minutes for the entire tape And then so that's that's an interesting idea and a terrifying idea Those that story a few years ago they came out about the playboy bunny And she's describing what it was like to have, you know, the group sex with Hugh Hefner and involved Viagra and Gay porn.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Google it. Why? Yeah, just look at Viagra and Gay porn. Answer. If I just post that on Twitter, there you go. I know it's the story. I've noticed the increase in spam bots on Twitter. Yeah. That even mentioned a product or if you
Starting point is 00:25:06 mentioned any kind of service, so you get destroyed by spam bots now. Yeah. A lot of times when you're trash talking stuff, like I talk crap about IKEA, and then they started following me and said, thanks for the fallout. Really?
Starting point is 00:25:17 That's how IKEA talks. Yeah. It's strange. I mean, it doesn't matter what you're saying about it. It's not your Swedish accent, it's my food. I just imagine the guy who's in charge of running the Twitter account and I keep is like where the fuck is the Where the hell is that oh with the slash Option then all right, so next on our list here. We have King speech which we talked about already
Starting point is 00:25:43 And Brandon loves I think he's gonna vote for that one. Actors overrated too. What? Jeffrey Rush be supportive Jeffrey Rush be a little annoyed. Oh that's amazing. You're not gonna win this battle Brandon. I know we just for the record all of us this room now have seen King's Beach. Yeah. Well that's amazing because I'm actually on a podcast with people who participate in culture. That's amazing. Yeah we all like King's Beach except for Brandon. Actually everyone in the world love love King's Beach except for me So it's like I acknowledge that I'm wrong in some way that I can't understand Because I literally seem to be the only person who just started acknowledgement every day. Yeah, I guess I'm wrong
Starting point is 00:26:18 But I don't know why kind of love that one up there, but all right. What's the next one? All right. The next one is 127 hours. James Franco kicking ass. I've never seen that. I really want to see the movie. I just missed it. Did you not see it at button? I'm a thon. No, no, I saw.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I've seen it. OK. I really liked it. Well, movie 127 hours. James Franco, the cliff guy who cut his own arm off. Spoiler. So I haven't seen 127 hours, but I did see the three-second promo clip of James Franco on guiding a lighter whatever
Starting point is 00:26:47 Chopop worthy was on and I say he wins dude just for that he was just for Going on doing wacky stuff did he he was on daily show? I think the day at the day he got nominated for the Oscar for for best actor actually and He said basically he got a call saying hey got nominated for best best actor said all right cool thanks and then he went to class yeah like what I read the other that he's now teaching a class where it's like like film editing with James Franco on James Franco or something we're like students take his movies or short films that he's done and like re-edit them? That's awesome. It's pretty pretty...
Starting point is 00:27:27 And he's hosting the Oscars this year too with Anne Hathaway, right? So is that what it was? Maybe not read one time the Wikipedia entry on James Franco. Yeah, I remember you guys talked about that on the podcast once. Right, okay. So I'm just gonna be hard for me to figure out what we're talking about on the podcast and what guests in Jeff and I just talk about while avoiding work. Yeah. And so many times we'll be talking to the big oh, we let's talk about this This is podcast talk and then I just forget it and then never talk about it We're the journals hey speaking of journal. All right. Let's finish our conversation. We have a cool thing that happened on the oh
Starting point is 00:27:55 Yeah, the community journals this week all right, so moving on the list social network Fantastic movie fantastic movie That didn't have the quite the impact on me. That had on everybody else. Yeah. Take the King's speech route. Speech route. I am taking the King's speech route. By the way, you did an impression for like a week of the King's speech before I saw the movie and I couldn't wait because I couldn't wait for the guy to talk like your impression and then he didn't. So I like your impression.
Starting point is 00:28:24 I couldn't wait because I couldn't wait for the guy to talk like your impression and then he didn't so I like your impression. Churchill was like, you were like, it was the worm till guy, his Churchill, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, he's Churchill. Oh, is that the problem with English movies now? It's like, you do a spot Harry Potter actor. It is three Harry Potter actors in a King's Beach. Oh, stop it. At least three, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:40 But, did you see the rap video that someone cut with King's Beach? No. It's when it you know It's when he puts on the headphones and talks and someone like redub it with him rapping is actually pretty funny It's like it's a pretty good rap, too So I'll make sure to link it. I agree with Jack on a lot of things But the links that he sends me via aim are like 50% and but no, I mean, it's just I agree with you on a lot of stuff But it's like I don't match up with you in that silly online world. Okay, although I do we do like the same pictures of cats I will say yeah that that that rat video didn't really do anything for me at all
Starting point is 00:29:09 I like the idea. It's pretty clever And it was well done like well executed I would say when do you think the first law cat was like who is the person who made the first law Kate? Who was cheeseburger? No, that was just a popular one Oh isn't it like just I mean if we really want to go back in it like hanging their kitty, yeah, okay? It's a good point or do you mind with the cat with the leg up? Look at yourself or I hate Mondays I hate Mondays. Yeah, it was in the late 1800s. Yeah, different field It was right after the invention of cats
Starting point is 00:29:41 So it's around the fairos. No, there's you know what her okay? You you understand when he says hang in there, baby Friday's coming. You know what that means, right? No really really? So it's what we're on the fairos. No, you never heard of it. Okay. You understand what he says, hang in there baby Friday's coming. You know what that means, right? No. Really? You don't know what that means. Like that doesn't conjure any image in your head.
Starting point is 00:29:52 No, you've never seen the poster of the cat hanging on the limb of the tree. And it says hang in there, baby Friday's coming. Maybe. Wow, that's amazing. I didn't know the phrase Friday is coming. I just, I just know hang in there. And then also the one that people change It says oh shit. It was the cat hanging
Starting point is 00:30:08 Don't compare me to Jack. I mean he's like 27, but in spirit. He's like 45. What all right? I'm 29 I guess at that poster. I'm an in 10. This podcast seems to be all about the difference in ages between I guess so yeah, right in right in likes to turn him being dumb into us being old I guess so. You have writing, writing likes to turn him being dumb into us being old. I can't find the classic image of the kitten hanging. They might have blocked it. The internet didn't exist at that time. That picture's made a lot of money, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:30:37 It was like, it was in those, it was always that poster that you would find in the, whatever it was in a, in school when they'd give us those sheets where we'd order books. Do you remember that? Was it glass? Was glass tape that would do that? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Do you ever do that stuff right? Oh yeah. We have a lot of the form. They have those big cases that open up. And you buy your Clifford books. I would buy Garfield. I would buy a new. They're those by Garfield, huh?
Starting point is 00:30:59 Yeah, Garfield. I think Garfield's on like our band list. Two sarcastic for school. You were in Georgia, right? Yeah. Okay. I'm I'm providing far side from those. That image means nothing to you.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I'm a little orange-kitten hanging on a rope. No, it's so cute. That was my Facebook profile image for a long time. Was it really? Yeah. I've had one Facebook image profile image and ever since I've had my Facebook account, it's been damn near decade now
Starting point is 00:31:21 to find the exact same image. It looks like you have the one where we did the bloody apple gag That's on that's on our site. Yeah, no the one on Facebook is the one of me and my cat and our sweaters It's like our Christmas photo. I took that all in Mills looking. Yeah, I took that photo like 2003 And I put that I was my Facebook image. I've never changed it. All right. What's next? All right, moving on the list. We've got so we said social network. We can kind of glaze it over it though. So any of you. Yeah, you know, I, uh,
Starting point is 00:31:48 I was really big in that movie and let me the, uh, special feature stuff to watch. Yeah. And the special feature stuff was, was pretty cool. That really? I mean, I don't know if everyone who doesn't pay attention to, you know, Hollywood special effects stuff. Notice this are cared, but there was a whole thing where they had the twins.
Starting point is 00:32:06 Yeah, oh dude, spoiler. But they had the twins and they- That much of a spoiler. Well, the other name's Army Hammer. Army, the one guy. The actor. So they cast two guys, right? Two different guys, not related at all.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Just two different actors. And then at some point during the production, they said, okay, well, face is never going to be seen. We're digitally going to replace your face with the other actors face. And so one guy appears in the movie, acts in the movie the entire time, and then you never see his face.
Starting point is 00:32:38 They just uses his body. That's wild. It was completely seamless. It was completely seamless. It was unbelievable. There was a screening in Austin where they actually it was Aaron Sorkin, Jesse Eisenberg and the Army Hammer were there afterwards and up until the point where he walked in the theater I thought it was two guys. I thought
Starting point is 00:32:53 those twins. Yeah. It was it was pretty crazy. It might be one of the best visual effects because you just never never noticed it. I know I would think about it if I was the other actor. I think about it? I know. I know. I would think about it if I was the other actor. I would think about it all the time. I bet that guy goes and hangs out with David Prous all the time. They have their own club. On the other side of the fence, though, the miniature they use was awful. What miniature? It was when they were in England, I think.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Oh, no, that was tilt shift. That was a miniature. That was tilt shift photography. That was the one issue I had with that movie. Yeah. I remember the tilt shift photography that was the one the one issue I had with that movie yeah I I remember the tilt shift sequence now. Yeah, it's it's when they're doing the boat race in England With the two brothers are the two brothers are at the regatta in the for no reason at all They use that weird tilt shift thing like other than like the DP was like hey look. I've got this cool lens
Starting point is 00:33:39 Well, there's a whole thing of using tilt shift Lenses for landscape photography and in sky photography where you try to make stuff look like models. And I guess that's what they were doing, but I don't know as well. If you want to see some good tilt shift videos and what it is, there's a certain kind of lens you can buy. You can go into it and be very boring for this podcast, but it's a tilt shift lens which you can get these crazy focal lengths and you can shoot something to
Starting point is 00:34:05 where everything a real world looks like a miniature. It makes things look shallow somehow. Like the depth looks compressed. It looks, yeah, it makes the real world focal length look like it would if everything was shot the wrong way as a miniature essentially. So then it gives you the illusion that the real world is in miniature. If you ever want to see a lot of tilt shift stuff I have no idea why it's huge on Vimeo. So if you go to Vimeo and look up tilt shift you can see lots of video that people made.
Starting point is 00:34:33 And people used to just do photography tilt shift, but then because of DSLRs with now being able to shoot video, now suddenly there's a huge explosion of tilt shift video. Yeah. Are we talking about the same shot? It's the first overhead looks like a helicopter shot of the race. Yeah. That's all real. Here, let me show you another tilt shift video here in Unvimeo. And then you can take a look at it and tell me if you think that's a miniature. Is it the beach one? I don't know what, I just pulled up tilt shift in Unvimeo.
Starting point is 00:34:59 The one I've seen was a beach where they had a helicopter, like what they were doing tests, like pulling people out of the water with a helicopter, offering, offering, and that was a really, really crazy. I saw one with the Ferris wheel. Yeah. That looks totally like a model. It's just very, very, very, you know, you like, it just has that aesthetic of like looking like it's made out of toothpicks. Yeah, it's like a toy almost. And it's an issue that comes up when you're shooting features because you'll sometimes be shooting years before the movie comes out. You know, often at least 12 to 18 months before the movie comes out.
Starting point is 00:35:29 That is about the same time frame where tilt shift suddenly took off and was a big deal. Right. Maybe the DP thought, oh, everyone's gonna be doing tilt shift stuff. We'll be the first people in theatrical to do tilt shift and now nobody gives a shit about tilt shift. Yeah. And clearly it didn't work if Brandon thought it was a model. It's interesting. Where did he thought it was a bad model It's interesting. I really thought it was a bad model. That's what I find interesting. Yeah. Brandon, oops.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I'm not saying that. It was the first time I feel like I saw something like that. I was like, that doesn't look real. Yeah. I'm sure that you can say that because I'm going to have been awesome animation, like just stop motion animation of them doing everything like that. You know, moving the boats and all that. Yeah, but that's that shot bugged me too.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Like I remember catching me off guard. I was like, what? Why? Like it doesn't know point for dollars and it exists nowhere else in the movie but other than that I thought the movie's fantastic I even thought what's Justin Timberlake was pretty damn good in that movie pretty good I thought Jesse Eisenberg was the best thing about that movie although the the friend who's now Spider-Man who you talk about that too Garfield yeah the original walk-at we should I mean mean, I think that Jesse Eisenberg
Starting point is 00:36:25 was the standout there. I liked him more than the movie overall. So I hope he wins best actor, but I don't really care about social network winning best picture. OK, that makes sense. Man, Mark Zuckerberg is awkward in a completely different way in real life.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Like Jesse Eisenberg made him look cool. And he's like, he's too cool to fit in social rules and help people shouldn't interact with each other. But if you actually watch Mark Zuckerberg, awkward. You jump out the center of life thing. In general, if you just watch him talk. Yeah, the center of life thing is pretty rough. Alright, let's move on to the list.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Toy Story 3, fantastic. It's pretty good. Yeah, you know, I mean, I definitely feel like your impression of Toy Story 3, you're going to come down on one side of the other based on whether or not you have kids. I don't have kids, I loved it. Oh, you're saying you're saying that? Of course people have kids, it was like, it was an awkward movie to watch. You sound like Jeff with your family.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Well, I mean, keep in mind too, like the people who Toy Story 1 came out with a decade before Toy Story 3. Probably more, I think it was 1995. So when did Toy Story came out? I mean, I was younger. I wasn't crazy young, but I was pretty young when Toy Story 1 came out. And so I've kind of grown up with the movie. It was kind of cool to see them in the movie. The game is a great idea. It made a great deal of it.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And it was really neat to see that and kind of relate to it. But like, have you ever seen an animated movie that was that intense? No, no. I mean, that was crazy. Yeah. Or they did do those characters at the end. And it was, you know, impressive that they could evoke such a visceral, such a real emotional response
Starting point is 00:37:54 from people just, you know, out of computer-animated characters. No, I mean, that's the thing. Like, I have no problem admitting I cried all three times. I've seen that movie. And the third time was on an airplane I think between like really yeah That movie and up Like I've felt like more pangs of you know anxiety and fear for the characters more empathy for the characters
Starting point is 00:38:17 Then any live action movies I've seen in in quite a while to Pixar Pixar has that like they know where that nerve is And I push it and just burning, burning over your feelings on the move. Well, it's actually the thing that I don't like about Pixar. I think Pixar is like smog the dragon from a hobby, you know, it's perfect, except for that one little kink in the armor to me that's that they don't do the adult portions of the movie appropriately. I don't, I don't think that's appropriate. Like we were talking yesterday, Brandon, about space goes coast coast to coast and you were talking about how it was the first
Starting point is 00:38:47 time you saw somebody make something for kids but that felt like adults could enjoy it as well. It was a weird crossover and that kind of thing is really hard and Pixar is the top of the line of what they do. But I still think loony tunes got that perfect where it's goofy and stupid and you can watch it as a kid but you can watch loony tunes as an adult and get something totally different from it whereas the Pixar stuff it's just adult means fucking depressing and it's kid stuff doesn't need to be depressing it really really doesn't and there's always a super dark moment in every Pixar movie and this one in Toy Story 3 was ridiculously dark yeah I mean the suicide pack essentially is what it was.
Starting point is 00:39:26 And I honestly got, I still want to know what happened to Bo Peep. I'm freaking out of that. I'm totally freaked out by what happened to Bo Peep and they don't discuss it in any way. We're not going to talk about that. Very briefly. Yeah, we're not going to talk about what happened to Bo Peep. Did she get smashed, you know? Did the sheep kill her?
Starting point is 00:39:40 What? I mean, I would argue that's not necessarily a Pixar's thing. I mean, like even like all the Disney movies have that element of just darkness to it. I mean, like, you know, think about like Lion King, the kid watches his dad get killed in front of a band-aid. Bambi. I mean, around the world in 80 days. What happened in the round of the video?
Starting point is 00:39:57 No one saw them, right? It's 180 days. How long? How long was he saying? Around the world and what? 80 days. What is it? What is it? Does that name of the movie? I don't know. How old are you? I'm 80 days.
Starting point is 00:40:06 What is it? What is the name of the movie? Around the world before the night. I don't even know. I'm making fun of him, but I'm not sure it's 180 days. I'm pretty sure it's 180 days. I'm talking about the Jackie Chan version. Yeah, the Jackie Chan version.
Starting point is 00:40:19 No, it's 80 days. I say correct. Sorry. Yeah, sorry. I mean, I don't know. I think, I mean, I like that there's like that darker element to it. It's not all you know peaches and cream. I don't have kids Don't have to worry about that stuff. So no, it's no, I just I just Even as adult I don't want stuff mixed up like that, you know, it's I don't want what it means
Starting point is 00:40:36 I don't want to go into enjoy something and then have these like unbelievably dark moments But the dark moments make the lighter moments that much better. Have you guys seen the five-second film with the Lion King? No, it's a these guys they just edit down movies to five seconds and it's just two different shots the first one is Simba and his dad is like you love me, right? It's dad's like yeah, we're gonna be together forever, right? And then they cut to move fossil falling and dying and it's like the end By the way, I just want to point out that it's not five second films, five second films are the guys who make five second movies. What am I thinking?
Starting point is 00:41:08 Those are amazing. Movies and five seconds might be. Are you watching or are you thinking of like how it should have ended? No, there's a thing he's talking about. That's like movies in five seconds. No, there's also a thing called how it should have ended. Which is like, no, we're just talking about the view. Correct me on your misconception.
Starting point is 00:41:24 It's around the world in 127 hours. Come on. It's around the world in 127 hours. Yeah, come on From the world five days or less Yeah, but five second films I absolutely adore you can get lost in that in that site You know the magician one they have yeah, probably the funniest grossest thing ever Google five second films Twilight So I'm gonna say yeah, ever you people who really like that Twilight one really like that Twilight one every time I see 5 second film come up in like a form discussion on reddit or something like that there's always somebody who will post that Twilight one they did and I think you either really like that one or don't like
Starting point is 00:41:59 that one and I just I don't like that one it's grotesque but insightful like it's a really good critique on those movies That's the subtitle to your autobiography, right grotesque but insightful. Yeah, I branded farting All right moving on true grits true grits the thing that bugs me about true grit movie is great but they nominated What Jeff Bridges for best actor that day meant for supporting actor What Jeff Bridges for Best Actor, Matt Damon for Supporting Actor, but the girl who is the main character of the movie was nominated for Supporting Actress. Is she on screen more than the majority of the movie? She's on screen more than the majority of the movie.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Fargo, Frances McDormand. I'm a Red Dormant, one best actress. We made Chmacy was nominated for Best Supporting actor, but he had more screen time than she did. But she still feels like more of a main character to me, I think. But just in terms of how much time they were actually on screen, but I mean, in true grit, the girl, or his move, it's the girl's story. It's her movie. And it's like, how can that be the support? You know, I know what it comes down to. I think is the studio's lobby for specific actors to be nominated in specific categories. And they just pick and choose what they think, where they think they can win.
Starting point is 00:43:11 How does the nomination process work? Do you submit as a studio, we want these actors nominated? Or does it just come out of the academy? That's how it works for the Emmys. They'll submit a specific episode for both actors and just like overall awards, like the best picture or best show or best editing. Right. I know they'll imagine the same way. They also have like cuts too. Like I've heard of like, oh, we made the round of 15.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Yeah. I don't know how that happened. I don't know if they have individual groups that do it like the visual effects society would get together and like nominate like a group of, you know, pictures and those will get whittled down and whittled down again and you end up with a three or four sometimes five but usually it's a small number of visual effects best visual effects nominees yeah the best picture that and that's a very specific award I I'm guessing there's some kind of function like when the other ones for a best actor and best picture that works the same kind of way. Yeah, with producers and do do cyber dissagio to vote on Oscars? Like I don't know. It's the Academy.
Starting point is 00:44:09 I don't know. I guess with Joel is here we could ask, but so 127 hours. No. Oh, I don't want to miss any. True grit. True grit. True grit. Sorry, I looked at the wrong one.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Anyone else? Any thoughts, opinions? I mean, I really liked it. I then I like to go in brothers a lot. I thought the actress was tremendous. I thought Jeff Bridges was tremendous But there was just one thing missing from that movie that it might be what Brandon was saying early small room Yeah, but maybe it felt like it ended in the small room for me I mean, I really did something about the way that movie ended didn't leave me with any kind of feeling that
Starting point is 00:44:39 Okay, this was a fantastic though. Yeah, it didn't seem to have a build up to the climax I feel like it was the end of the movie you didn't realize it was the other thing was the bad guy. I mean, you just have like these certain expectations when you see a western because you're so used to seeing 80 other westerns where you get to the bad guy and he's formidable. The bad guy and true grit was just like a big putts. Absolutely. And then it made it made her experience and her search for vengeance seemed less interesting because her dad was killed by some goofball instead of like this larger than life figure. And I think you're also actually watering down your criticism a little bit because when
Starting point is 00:45:13 I've said that about the movie, people said, well, that's just not the way this movie was. You're bringing your other expectations in. Within the scope of that movie, they set up that guy like that. The first scene where he's, you know know the father is killed and he's riding away They shot that in a very You know grandiose way to set this guy up as a really bad villain and you felt that within the scope of the movie and in my Damon's like I've been hunting this gaff for 10 years and it's like well my Damon sucks Yeah, you can't catch this dude. No, it's like you know you find out like out like the, essentially the villain is like Mr. Magoo escaping it the last second, you know
Starting point is 00:45:46 Sorry, Brandon for the reference. We'll have to I You want a history book. I You so watch this movie. Saw the live-action movie. Did you know I think so? I forgot it was a live-action I think wasn't it Leslie Nielsen. Yes, I think so. I'm the subject of her, you know, being nominated How long she was in the movie and then he Hopkins was nominated for a best actor How long do you think how many minutes do you think he was in that oh and you're talking about science of the land? Yeah, it was something like seven minutes. So something ridiculous
Starting point is 00:46:12 It was 15 and people have been nominated for for less like someone was nominated for a Seven minute It's okay, Bernie chairs are hard It's weird that he would get nominated for best actor. I'll get that. Oh, well this one makes sense The record for fewest lines in a movie, but still winning an Oscar is for the miracle worker Helen Keller Now you're just being a dick. No, it's interesting That makes sense. I don't know why walk counts as a word or what's next on our list? All right next So the last one is Winters bone, which I don't has anyone seen that movie? I haven't know if Wawa Council's a word or what's next on our list. Alright, so the last one is Winters' Bone, which has anyone seen that movie?
Starting point is 00:46:47 I haven't. I did see it. You did. It's pretty good. I mean, it's kind of similar in a way to true grit that you have this female character who's out on some kind of crusade. She's looking for kind of like what happened to her father and the government's kind of collector her house because, you know, he defaulted on the bail bonds it's it's not bad all I know about that movie is
Starting point is 00:47:07 you can't say the title around carry because it starts jiggling on control well it does sound a little bit like a movie that met actionally watching college all right uh... yes i have no opinion on that one anyone else one now and for tonight and she did yeah it is pretty good little bit of a underwhelming. There is feel at all like TruGrit we should support because it's an Austin movie. Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I feel like I should support TruGrit because it's a Cohen Brothers movie. And my personal track record with watching their movies is I walk out of the movie gone. That was okay. And then three months later it's the best movie I've ever seen in my life. Almost every tone brother's movie has been that way to me. Yeah. Did you guys already talk about old Jeff? Yeah, we brought him up. Yeah, old Jeff is in a true grit. Well, it's in the court scene. We should clarify now what we mean.
Starting point is 00:47:55 A guy who played Jeff as an old man in one of our videos was in true grit in a court scene. We call him old Jeff. Yeah. And he is a very distinct face. So it's very easy to spot him. And it's faces huge on screens. So yeah, those of you watching the movie, it's right when she walks into the courtroom, looking for Rooster for the first time. It's like she makes it through the door and he's right there. Do we want to burn through the rest of the other categories, like actor and leading role just run through the list and give opinions?
Starting point is 00:48:19 No, why don't we all just go around what you win best picture, Jack? Honestly, I mean, I'm gonna have to lean. I mean, it's gonna have to lean. I mean, it's not gonna happen. I would love to see Toy Story 3 win, because I think that was the most emotionally engaging movie for me this year, but I think Social Network or King's Speech will win.
Starting point is 00:48:34 What do you think, Shubin Brennan? I think Black Swan should win. I was in a that movie from beginning to end and it was terrifying. It was the scariest experience I've had in a movie theater in a really long time. Let me just say though, a Javier does the name of our team and beautiful beautiful? Amazing. I really do hope he wins best actor. It was unbelievable. You have you you've seen no country for old men, right? Yes
Starting point is 00:48:54 Okay, he was the bad guy in no country and he was working on all it I have not seen enough of the best picture movies to feel like really I'm qualified Yeah, I've seen so few of them this year. I still ate of the 10 before the even announced an nomination. I was very happy with myself. I'm just going to say I want inception to win just because I feel like movies like that never win. Like Blackbuster movies have some kind of like, you know, they're changed somehow by the fact that they make a lot of money that that somehow
Starting point is 00:49:22 commercials success means that they're not really artistic accomplishments. Yeah, I thought that movie was a very real artistic accomplishment on a lot of different levels. It's a really interesting movie. It'd be cool to see a sci-fi movie win too, you know. It would, yeah. Dark nights should have been nominated a few years ago. That was ridiculous. It wasn't. I think that's one of the reasons why they moved to 10. Right. Right. So try to include more commercially successful movies. Right. That way they were maybe so that we can still on of the artistic ones and include ones that it was hit on a higher level. It was to kill that headline every year. That's like I haven't seen any of these best picture nominees.
Starting point is 00:49:55 You know, every single year is the same thing over and over. I also think a movie that got left out was the town. That was a really good movie and I don't know the best picture quality but it was good. Well I mean you could probably say that about six of the nine days in the best picture category. You know I mean if some of those other movies are gonna be in there I think that movie deserves to get some recognition. It just came out so long ago. Yeah that's not a people's radar. We talked about it when we were nominating drunk tanks best picture of the year and I had seen it after we started to talk about it and I didn't think it hit on the level of those other movies for me at least.
Starting point is 00:50:27 I watched it on Monday and then immediately watched Goodwill Hunting afterward. It's like craving and that movie is fantastic. I don't know how that movie didn't win Best Picture. I still don't understand why two guys I don't understand why Ben Affleck is not one of the biggest stars in Hollywood because he was for a while and kind of fell off a little bit. I could watch that guy on screen you know all day. He's instantly belie me. Like, I don't know what it is about the guy, you know, he had a run of terrible movies where like he did like, you see Lee in Daredevil and a few other really bad ones was like, bad. What was that Christmas movie with Charlize Theron or was that? Was that him? Oh, that was not a terrible movie. Was I was her introduction of indiesel But the other guy not say why he's not a huge like a huge juggernaut like shorts and nigger in the 80s kind of star is the rock I mean you why is he making you go back to wrestling?
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah, he gave up. Why is he making kids movie man? I mean the rock is like he's like such a perfect millennial star You know, it's just I don't know what the deal is. What was that movie? He did recently You know, it's just I don't know what the deal is. What was that movie? He did recently Two fairy no revenge or something or was I can't be a bad at the end of the two fairy Yeah, what was that called I it came out? I thought this would be a huge and this they kind of went right under the radar I just don't know if people want that type of movie anymore that 80 shorts and acres the lone big movie I don't know if they want that kind of star Yeah, how much money that movie make? Like, 250. Like, that's kind of the attachment people had to deal with stars from the 80s.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Like, I don't know if you could remake one of those guys now. I mean, I think the closest thing is that angry British guy, who is it in the expendables? Jason Statham. He's pretty new. Did you see the 18? He's pretty much the new 18 movie. Catherine Wood plays text.
Starting point is 00:52:02 He's absolutely in love with that Jason Statham being. Yeah. He's pretty much cornered the market. But if you Jackman ever walked inT. movie, Captain Winnie who plays text is absolutely in love with that Jason Statham. Yeah, he's pretty much cornered the market. But if you Jackman ever walks away from the Wolverine part, Jason Statham should pick it up. He's actually more like Wolverine, I think, than Hugh Jackman is because he's just nothing like Wolverine. He wears leather pants. And Jason doesn't wear leather pants.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Jason Statham is like five foot four and you know covered in hair like like Wolverine is he can probably heal wounds in two seconds. Alright, aren't Bernie what do you think he's gonna win? I think he'll win but I think all those movies I enjoyed the fighter the most. I think I really liked I really liked Tugorip but I think fighter was ahead of it. Do you think Christian Bail should win that supporting? I think Christian Bail should go in that supporting. I think Christian Bail is the Robert De Niro of our generation. I think that guy is amazing, dude. The body of work that that guy is putting together is insane. It makes you want to go back and watch all the little movies that he's been in that I haven't seen.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Some of you Christian Bails get older and make really terrible comedy movies and ruin his entire career before that because he makes terrible comedy movies. You can't ruin an entire career. Robert De Niro's performance still exists. He's making comediesies now what do you want Robert De Niro to do you wanted to Play the old gangster? Yes, I want to be I want to be a one good fellow every year. You just want him to go away That's all I want. I don't know. I know no more analyze that That was really good. It just just happened to start the trend of movies that he made like I guess a huge righteous Kill fan
Starting point is 00:53:24 What? to start the trend of movies that he made like I guess a huge righteous kill fan What you see it was it was the deniro alpichino cry movie their bad asses. Oh, that was the yeah He does move make movies like the what I mean he's tainted himself now So I see that no no meet the fuckers character every time I see him on screen It's like well that you ruined your reputation right just killed didn't suck because I meet the fuckers You know a bad movie is bad movie I don't think it matters what other Cominem, but I'm saying even you know even if you made a good movie it is like you know It kind of ruins your view on it
Starting point is 00:53:53 Just move your handaker hundreds of oh no, I'm not saying it's bad, but Switzerland maker made junior He made kindergarten cop he made it to me or to me girl. No anyway real quick before we should probably start wrapping up But we were talking about how like you know the art house movies will you know win over a big picture thing Yeah, something similar happened to the Grammys where arcade fire the sort of independent van beat out just Oh, no, not not not that Justin Bieber lost the best new artist to some solo bass player. Did you hear about this? Oh, it's how it does. Yeah, it was like some new soloist bass player like stand up bass player And all the Bieber fans like destroyed her. Yeah, the PDF age and then arcade fire beat him out for best I think what a best album of the year and everyone was like who's arcade fires is stupid?
Starting point is 00:54:35 How come Justin Bieber didn't win and like there's this huge outrage now I thought it was a big deal because he beat M&M wasn't that the thing instead of he be Bieber I thought that's what people were I thought people were just on cuz the guy who's a fire has basically the same haircut as Justin Beaver so maybe that was the controversy but someone made an a way to say it I was reading this about about how it's like well, this is crazy this indie bands You know beat out all these like you know music establishment kind of more commercial acts It's like I see arcade fire like all over the place. We also have a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Well they're in sound live and they're just like, you know, they're not like a small, unheard of band. I mean, they're pretty popular. They're also on the radio all the time. It's the first time ever a band that wasn't signed to a label, one best album. That's kind of cool. That is cool.
Starting point is 00:55:23 That is cool. I will admit, I mean, I understand the outrage and then the outrage at the outrage for the Bieber fans. I'll be honest, I know more Justin Bieber songs than I know arcade fire. I mean, I would probably like arcade fire more if I listened to them, but they were even on Silent Live at one point when Rain Wilson hosted, I remember. And I don't know anything about arcade fire, but I do, I do know Justin Bieber songs. But I mean, like, people I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean people that wants to tell them why they shouldn't like it. I don't know why people are like that, especially people on the internet or like that, but that's just the way they are.
Starting point is 00:56:08 My stuff is cool, your stuff sucks. Basically, that's what it comes down to. Okay, Fire, didn't have a label? Nope, that's awesome. I mean, what you think, I mean, it's like $80 to put your album on iTunes, which is where most people are going to buy it anyway, and you can market yourself really well on Twitter and... It definitely feels more genuine when that happens in music.
Starting point is 00:56:24 That's like, oh, here's some guys got together. They made an album and now they won a Grammy for it. Whereas whenever you hear about that happening, an independent film winning an Oscar, it's always like an independent film produced by the Weinstein. You know, there's something that's not an independent movie. Crash is not independent if it has all made
Starting point is 00:56:42 your heart and everybody in the movie. Yeah, it just doesn't feel the same way I mean arcade far she feels a couple dudes in a garage. We'll just want a grand A lot of things is just like small-time production and big-time distributor I mean, so it's kind of hard to figure out what what is an independent movie like well How do you find that? Yeah, I mean like like clerks was an independent movie and mostly Kevin's missed off technically Is an independent movie, but I mean all that stuff got sold. I mean they say Rodriguez made seven he made a and independent movie. But I mean all that stuff got sold. I mean they say Rodriguez made seven he made a Elmeriatri for $7,000 and then Rodriguez. Sorry sorry Rodriguez made a Elmer
Starting point is 00:57:09 at $7,000 and then when he sold it to distributor they spent another you know $100,000 or some astronomical amount actually releasing the movie so. It was Elmeriatri not. The independent label in film is something that people try to hold on to. Like the fact that I can't afford to hear it. How does this see what else Jack can correct to bring it? But the, like, Clearts I definitely see as an independent film. It's not like crashed to me. If Clearts had won Best Picture, they'd be like, here's a dude who made a film for $30,000. If, you know, Elmeriachi had won Best Picture,
Starting point is 00:57:38 it'd be that level. But when then you get Antonio Vandera's and Selma Hayek in your movie, you know, the next one, then it's like, the independent thing doesn't matter. It's like it's enough when they produce crash And it was an independent movie and then they got all those stars to be in it that's enough You don't have to constantly farm the independent thing. No, it's not it's enough You know, it's just it's there's a certain level of which it no longer matters that it's independent once all these big stars On board it doesn't have the same feeling as a garage band pumping out their own stuff. Yeah. All right. We'll start round this up
Starting point is 00:58:09 Any final words any comments? Do we want to say anything? Zach Anders on the finale of the Oprah show? Oh, I'm very excited about that Jeff Griffin and I are gonna be at Armageddon con is it what's called Armageddon Expo? Uh-huh in Sydney Australia this weekend? That's awesome. So if you are an Australian person and you are listening to this podcast, or you happen to be an Australian person. That's right. It's right.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Ride a shark down the street and come visit us at the Kangaroo Punch and Grounds or whatever the Colby exhibit there. And then on March the fifth, Griffin and Jeff will be at Emerald City Comic Con, in the Halo Waypoint booth. So if you are an Emerald person, then you would like to, I don't know, if you're going to see Oz,
Starting point is 00:58:57 just follow the Halo of a crowd to them. But they will be in the Halo Waypoint booth, and it's not our booth, so we'll only be there for a very set amount of time. So if you want to visit Griffin and Jeff which you should want to they've had a vacation with each other for now what a week and a half so hopefully hopefully this will be married by the time you step up but go see them Saturday March 5th in Seattle at Emerald City Comic Con then the following weekend we
Starting point is 00:59:20 will be at PAX East in Boston I believe our panel is on Saturday March 12, March 12th in the mid afternoon. I think two or three o'clock Man, I am tired already from just hearing about all this travel. Yeah, it's like 230 I think I gotta go get I'm playing to Australia like right now by the way and Pack just say no PAX East for us. That's we gear all of our announcement slash trailers slash video stuff For our PAX appearances because PAX bookends our year nicely PA nicely packed these and then packs prime in Seattle later in the year. We will be showing new red versus blue footage at packs East on done. So be there. Have a RTX tickets gone on sale. Are they going on sale soon? No, they have not gone on sale. They will be going on sale soon. We've gotten lots and lots of emails for
Starting point is 01:00:01 RTX. We just so everyone's clear, for the event that we're holding ourselves here in Austin and May, we will give you advanced notice on when those tickets will go up for sale. It's not just going to be keep hitting refresh on the website, hoping you're going to see it. We will have an announcement about when those tickets will go on sale. Indeed.
Starting point is 01:00:20 So hopefully you won't be surprised by that. You'll just have to keep hitting refresh to see if the sites back online. But even after saying all that, you should still ask Gus constantly in his personal comments. When the tickets are going to fail and you should constantly ask me on Twitter and in my personal comments, are we making any more red verse? Constantly. I know I gotta say though, I gotta say about mentioning Twitter and people who hate things that other people like. This has been a really, really hard month for me
Starting point is 01:00:43 on Twitter. Did I just unplug us? I don't think so. I just kicked a whole bunch of stuff. This has been a hard month for me on Twitter because we had the Golden Globes, we had the Super Bowl, and we had the Grammys. And what I've learned is that apparently I follow people on Twitter who take time out of their personal life to watch stuff that they hate Because all three of those events my Twitter feed just turned into one gigantic snark fest Like the Super Bowl was one of the worst it was like if I knew these people and I had they were at my Super Bowl party I would go to them and say will you please leave you're just you're constantly shouting snarky fucking comments Nobody gives a shit. We're here to watch Super Bowl. We're having a good time. Just just don't be here
Starting point is 01:01:24 Just go do something else else whatever you want to do likewise. I didn't watch the Grammys and I didn't watch the golden gloves because I Don't give a shit if you don't give a shit don't watch the fucking golden gloves don't do it People are tortured. There's enough other stuff going on in the world Yeah, it's like and speaking of that we have not mentioned you. Yeah. Thank you. I'm glad before we sign off Madman Mo. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we had a really cool thing that came up on the website. One of our users, Madman Mo, who is it lives in Constantinople, now Tripoli, in Libya. That's an old reference. You know that. Your Constantinople, was that was another that was Constantinople. I know now Tripoli, right? No, that's
Starting point is 01:02:03 that's Istanbul. That's Istanbul. Oh, not Constantinople. I know, now Tripoli, right? No, that's... That was Istanbul. That's Istanbul. Oh, not Constantinople. Yeah, Tripoli on the shores of Tripoli. Tripoli has always been Tripoli. Even Old New York. Go on. So they might be giant songs. Anyway.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Sorry. Anyway, so we have a user on the site. His name is Mad Man Mo, and he lives in Tripoli in Libya. And he discovered during these protests that are going on right now in Libya, he discovered that one of the only social networks that wasn't blocked by the government that he could reach was the Ruchertheist site. And so he's in Vimeo for video blogging.
Starting point is 01:02:35 So he started posting this running live blogging account of what was going on in his city in Libya. It was pretty riveting. And he was taking video of like being in a hallway while people are outside the building shooting and he's running to record yard It was it was pretty nuts. Yeah, it was pretty nuts and so we were trying to get the word out as much as we could Without giving too much information because a we didn't want us to show up in search terms and then be blocked by the government And he actually had a period where he didn't blog for about nine hours
Starting point is 01:03:04 Where's I got really worried about. So if you're interested you should go to rooshie.com and visit madmanmo and we'll definitely link it in the podcast. Yeah absolutely absolutely. You can always go to my profile and look on the journal there and see and he's still blogging right now and I hope he and his family stay very safe during a tough situation over there. Yeah. They bombed with jetfigures. They bombed protesters. Yeah. And the company comes on national TV. It's telling everyone, basically,
Starting point is 01:03:31 that people who are protesting are cockroaches and they should be squashed. Yeah. And it's like telling people to go out and hurt them, essentially. It's crazy. He ranted like an hour yesterday on state TV. And it was, guys, nuts nuts and he's in charge. So how can you be a dictator of a country not be nuts?
Starting point is 01:03:48 I mean, it's just how can that happen to you? Yeah, what was the guy from was it Uganda? I mean, the movie about him last king in Scotland, I think he literally had brain damage. The key was literally crazy. Maybe force Whitaker, right? Yes, in the movie. He's very sweaty. Like that was half of the performance. Alright cool. Let's wrap this up. So yeah, go visit us at
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