Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #103

Episode Date: March 2, 2011

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Twisted metal, streaming only on peacock. Welcome to the Chantek, by Raster T. Fingers, scotch, is a great way to start the middle of the way. Yeah. I feel like we're not nearly cool enough for that intro. No kidding. Hey, before we go any further, I'd like to say that we need to set up some sort of a camera system to film the podcast setup because nothing on this podcast is going to be as entertaining as trying to watch Griffin with a pop filter on her mic for five minutes.

I give up. And then give up. And then give up. And then give up. I guess really missed out. We're of us trying not to watch it. Acting like we were not watching you frustrated and twisted in your hands. The problem is if you watch her or you make eye contact,

then you're obligated to help. Because you acknowledge that there's a problem. Is there a bomb in here? It sounds like a bomb. Oh, what is it? This is my new watch. It beeps. What is it telling you?

It's telling me that it's 1143 so It's telling me that the Saturday morning at 1143 when I got my watch and decided to test what the alarm sounds like I set it up for daily and now I don't know how to turn it off It's also telling me that it's 85.8 degrees in here. I know that's not right. That can't be anywhere close to right I've never seen a temperature for each animal that ever worked But it wouldn't your body heat interfere with it because it's just right up on you That can't be anywhere close to right. I've never seen a temperature for each round of lots that ever worked. Wouldn't your body heat interfere with it? Because it's just right up on you?

I would think so. And is it really valuable to know what the temperature is where you are? Don't you know because you're there? Isn't temperature something you want to know about someplace that you're going or what it's going to be? Once you're there, what are you going to do? It's like, wow, yes, I am freezing.

That's verification. I didn't wear it. I didn't wear it. Didn't wear enough clothes today. All right, so welcome back from Australia, you too. Yay! Good day, Gus. Did you all get your fill of Vegemite?

Griven did. I actually got a video I'm going to put up. We were in the booth on Sunday. Some fans gave us, by the way, I'm going to get off on a tangent here. You know how like sometimes at events fans People viewers of our what various products will stop by and bring us booze You get legs still Did you do you get before the podcast the booze that they brought? Very tired

He started off the podcast with before we go any further. We hadn't gone anywhere He then he interrupted himself with the tangent in the first four syllables of his first night. Well anyway, people will always bring us booze to events. Right. Boy, they got nothing on the Australians. Every single Australian brought us free booze. Really?

It was like, we were swimming in bottles of booze, which was all very nice. And I appreciate very much. One guy even brought us like a bottle of Johnny Walker gold, which I looked up online, it's like a hundred and seventy dollar bottle. I gave that guy a free t-shirt. I never heard of that. Yeah, it was good. Here's the difference. Mixed with coke. It's delicious. Here's there, I mean Jeff's experience with that. My experience with that. I would say this, hey look at this bottle of booze that a fan brought to us. Jeff talks about the bottle of booze in the past tense. Where is the bottle of booze? Where are all these bottles of booze? Oh, I think we shipped it back in. Yeah, we did.

I think. Now he's going to tell us about the Australian recycling program. The guy goes, the guy goes, it was funny, the guy goes, here, this is a very, I got this shoe and I was like, wow, thanks. That's really cool. This looks very expensive. And he goes, it's best if you drink it slightly chilled with dark chocolate. And I said, what about I drink it at room temperature in this booth right now? I think that's how we're going to enjoy this bottle. And he goes, I guess you could do that too. Did he at least read some chocolate?

No, asshole. I did not. Go, what nerve. Anyway, I'll tell you how to enjoy your liquor. One of the things that we got was, how does it taste with the five CCs of Sharpie Inc. Frank? After a convention, I'm just covered from fingertip to elbow in Sharpie ink. You can't buy Sharpies unless really anywhere we can find them.

So we got this thing called permanent marker. Yeah. It's just a white pen. I couldn't find silver at all. And then we parted. Oh, one thing about Australia that drives me crazy, at least the part of town we're in, nothing is open on the weekends. Banks were open on the weekends. Banks were open on the weekends.

I couldn't get change made, and then there was one convenient store open in the whole town, and they only had blue and red markers. So we ran out of permanent markers, and eventually we had a borrow, like when people would walk up here and borrow their surface from them. Yeah, I got pretty bad.

But anyway, the point I was gonna make is, somebody gave us these Australia survival kits that were pretty cool. It was like a bunch of different stuff like tin tans and some, I don't know, phosphorus or something. And then these tubes of Vegemite. That looked like toothpaste tubes full of Vegemite. We just squirted out.

Which is the grossest looking thing I've ever seen. So I dared gif in $20 to squirt Australia and American. $20 Australian, which is actually more than $20 American. Thank you very much. I paid her in 20 cents. Yeah, I paid her $20 to squirt it in her mouth for two seconds and not throw up. And she did. And I had it the next morning. I like Regiment. Yeah. It was. It's between the podcast late. That's actually a much more interesting story. The Regiment is what? It is yeast. Yeah. late. That's actually a much more interesting story. I'm wondering. The, uh, Vegemite is what?

It is yeast? Yeah. Concentrated yeast extract. What is it? Concentrated. Is there a, that shitty diluted yeast? No, no. Is there a difference between Vegemite and Marmite?

Or are they just brand names? They say it. They say there is. And I thought there was because I, I remember having Vegemite when I was younger and I liked Marmite more. But since I've had it in Australia, I really can't tell the difference

because I had Marmite recently. But I was thinking about doing a back-to-back test. What Marmite? Marmite more, but since I've had it in Australia, I really can't tell the difference because I had Marmite recently, but I was thinking about doing a back-to-back test. Marmite? Marmite is like the British version. Okay, so what's it like to be a Vegemite Marmite and that shit that collects under your fender of the fact that it's more? You know, one of the girls that came by the booth was telling us, and she may have been fucking with us, but she was telling us that they get the yeast from beer, right?

Oh, or like the leftover yeast from beer factors. It's probably yeast from the effect is what they used to make a measurement She may have been fucking with you she might have been feel down there love to lie Do you know what they use the yeast in beer to make beer like I guess I just left over there's like yeast is charged I'll also say the Australian people are very polite. They're much nicer than Americans. I just want to point out that Australia has universal health care, and I have to fund that somehow. I think if you go follow the health care industry

and the yeast industry, far enough up, they might connect. I'm just going to say that. That's very disgusting. Also, most expensive city of the world. Oh my god. It was really that. They say one that is the most expensive city in the world. It's got nothing on city. But one thing I did we did find some good food where I never found an anything like that one one Indian restaurant. Yeah, so at least I'm really like you'll spend a ton of money on food, but there's some okay food

there. All these expensive cities were awesome when the dollar was worth a lot more. When the dollar was awesome. When the dollar was worth, like, you know, it was $0.75 to an Australian dollar essentially. Yeah. But now it's not even, it's under that. So it's under, what they call it, on par or parity. Griffin and I were, we were staying pretty far away from the city. So we were thinking about getting a hell.

Thank you guys. You were staying across the street from the event. I don't care what your fucking vacation plans are when you're down there. My concern is where you're staying for the event. It was an hour train ride into town. Public event. It was a two minute walk to the fucking event.

There was a new one there. So don't even start to give me shit about that. Actually, the trains are a lot of fun. We had fun again. Public transportation system's awesome there. But, fuck, all you're finding out for you, I was gonna say. Whenever anyone complains about travel arrangements,

I get as quiet as I can because I did that for a month. And I did it for a very short amount of time. I did it for I think maybe a year and a half and then Gus took it over and you've done it now for six years. No, actually I did it after you. Did you? And you did?

Oh, then you booked us at that fucking hotel in Toronto and then I stopped doing it. It's very evil. Yeah, it's horrendous. It's booking the people's travel in this company is a thankless job. That trip was also a little difficult because I've never been to Sydney. So I have no idea where anything works totally fine. It was fine.

It was kind of a after because we got there like a week early so we could kind of go and see things and then Matt stayed a week late and then I think they stayed in the city center and then he just like took the train in for the event But I kind of glad that we didn't stay in Sydney In the city center because at the end of the day like there's so many tourists like for the afternoon evening that it was kind of nice to go out to We're staying in Olympic Park, which is a lot more like. It's an office complex area. It's like it's the where the Olympics they took all of those buildings and they like had a figured way to like make it work into the city. So a lot of people go out there and like work out. We went swimming at the Aquatic Center or whatever. But it was really kind of it was a lot calmer so it was nice to go

at the end of the day and it was actually fun to take the train and you could also with the same card take like fairies and buses and buses. So get the mind multi pass to. Yeah, awesome. So when like cities, you said this, this was built like this is a relic from the Olympics. Do they ever successfully reintegrate those buildings into a city after the Olympics? Or are they always, oh yeah, that's the rundown area where the Olympics used to be. And then like in 100 years, they'll level it. I think they're making it work with this one because they're turning it all into residential. And so there's like all this crazy, like for people that like like to do physical shit, nobody in this office, but like people that like to work out or run or jog or swim, I can see them all moving there

because there's all these fantastic facilities. And there's like a commercial area that has like restaurants and whatever. So it has a pretty nice train station. So it seems like a planned community almost, like they're forming a community around all this stuff. It also seems like cities never recoup their investment at all from any kind of Olympics. I read that.

Actually, that's true. They celebrate it when they get it. They're so excited. And then they build out all this stuff. They can't manage it properly and then they always lose money. I think all the Canadian cities that have had a winter or summer Olympics have lost all their money. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if every city ever at the host Olympics hasn't lost all their money. I think Vancouver lost a spectacular amount of money on the Olympics. I think they were like one of the worst. As a matter of fact,

the company that was at Whistler, is that where they were? Yeah, they were. Someone was at Whistler. Yeah, where they're doing all the the worst. As a matter of fact, the company that was at Whistler is that where they were? Yeah, they were, someone was at Whistler. Yeah, where they're doing all the winter Olympics, they went bankrupt during the Olympics and they were like gonna shut down like a month after the Olympics were over and it was like really bittersweet for them because they're like, hey, we get the Olympics

to wish us well on our trip to the unemployment line, I guess. I don't know if that's just Olympics. I mean like, like, world expires or whatever. World fair? Yeah, we're all fair. Like, they have the same issue, don't they? No one talks shit about the world fair. Yeah.

No, like in Chicago, like, they had all of the, like, in the Chicago world's fairly built all of those buildings. And then like a year later, all the homeless people were living in them, like, people that had worked on the fair. And they'll have didn't have jobs anymore. But they have a blifty. They say it's one of those long term bets, though, they say that if you're city hosts the Olympics,

you become a worldwide hub. And so you lose to a 400 million on the Olympics, but that the long term effects are beneficial in business. Yeah, look how it worked out for Sarajevo. The fucking international hub. Yeah, I know, I'm not. That's just, that's just

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the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the logo for the Olympics looks like it spells out the word Zion. You know there's about 50% of our audience. I just went why do they hate the matrix? They so that it was the 20 the 20 12 Olympics in London. The 2012 is what spells outside on? Right. Like the way it's very stylized fun. two looks like a you can figure out but two looks like a Z the one looks like a I wow yeah but wouldn't it be oin the way it's wrote it's weird I mean I don't know what to say if if I was the Iranian government I wouldn't even use the word protest you know I would say it's far away from that as I possibly could I'd be like yeah we're

showing up we're gonna have a great time because it's good to keep things exactly how they are Yeah, how many protests are we up to now in the Middle East a lot? Five that's crazy. I mean, I just we shouldn't even call them protests at this point Which we call them revolution revolution? Yeah, and slash civil war. Yeah, there was all this excitement that people that it was spreading to China Apparently it's spread to North Korea now too No shit. I don't know about that really look it up Man, you're the internet guy on the podcast. Yeah hit the hit the web and see if there's protests in North Korea Speaking of North Korea guys

I meant to send this to you when I was in Australia. I'll have to find it for you There was a link from some dude on Reddit who got to go to North Korea on vacation Like if you have enough money you can do it and he had like 300 photos up and they were fascinated. Awesome. I love that stuff. I'm sure you're not thinking of like the fake home front protests that are happening at GDC for North Korea. No, I'm pretty sure I'm not thinking about that. I don't even know what that is. What was that that that documentary that we were watching? It was like it's a series of the skies that go in. That was a VBS or vice. That's a good one. It's really good and he shows they show the performance

They go into North Korea and they filmed this performance that's put on and they're like the only people in Audition Even like how many people do you think are actually it's like something like 10,000 or 20,000 people like 20,000 people performing at the same Time who've been practicing and are like working like clockwork together and there's like three people watching it like it's just all for show They were performing in case Kim Jong-il showed up. Yeah, they trained for years. There's actually some documentaries you get on Netflix about that. There's a documentary that follows two little girls who like trained for like two years to be able to participate in the mass games and they're just hoping that he shows up and he never shows up. You know, I think about, it seems like an enormous waste, but what else are people going to do? You know, I was talking with

my wife about this the other day. When I was a kid growing up, it seemed like we were making things in advancing, we were building towards stuff, and we knew what we were building towards. It just feels like we've made so much progress, especially with the internet, it's like a weird gateway technology where you could really just spend all your free time on the internet if you wanted to, just have an internet count and do that. Yeah. And there's so much entertainment, like you think about the amount of media that there is now, what they upload 24 hours of footage

for every minute on YouTube. Like every minute 24 hours of video is uploaded to YouTube. That's on the YouTube fact sheet. And it's just like, you couldn't possibly process all this. And the way food is now, and the way it's manufactured, it's like, what does everybody do? You know, we always talk about the loss of manufacturing jobs and things like that in America, but it's like,

now we have finance, entertainment, and restaurants. It's all entertainment, yeah. People you're talking about how like, everyone like is in the service industry now, or like there's some more and more people are just in service, but then you like, try to call a business, you can't find a real person. That's true. It's true

And it only seems like the quality of at least the idea of services gone down or Expectations for the amount of service which you get goes way up. Yeah, you know, I don't know if like You know, I don't know. It's like when I go to the grocery store as a kid my mom would leave the loaf of bread It wasn't a calamity, you know, it wasn't the end of the world You know whereas now if you get something shipped you from Amazon has a chip on the corner It's like I'm gonna boycott this company for the rest of my life And I'm gonna destroy the world or my iPhone which is making the Louis K Yeah, you know, it was amazing everyone has a surround complaining about this like basically

Star Trek device that we have in our pocket. We're all gonna say around complaining about how it should be better than what it is It's so slow. I have no idea how to make it better or what goes and they're making it actually work, but this is terrible. It's awful. Hey, did you see that they're supposed to announce a new iPad today speaking of Star Trek? Yeah, you know Apple, they love having their events on Wednesday, podcast day.

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, we do. They're event is supposed to start like in five minutes. Well, they revamped the notebooks a week ago, and they added, I feel like there should be an interstitial here. Thunderbolts! The new interface, which Gus and I got in a very tense email discussion about. We actually had a group, there's a group email list that we all subscribe to here.

Although it's actually an email list, which is another problem I have with Gus. But we go back and forth on it, and Gus was talking about picking up a new laptop after he just picked up a brand new computer to edit the drunk tank video podcast, which by the way, how are you enjoying that, audience? And you made a very funny joke, I thought. Well, I tend to make funny jokes in email.

Is that like when the credit card bill comes in and everyone has to go through and specify what they spent this amount of money for and what category it goes in for the business. It's all for bookkeeping. I always pick out the person who spent the most and sometimes it's somebody who's just I guess gone insane. And I always make fun of them in that email. And the last few times I've done that, that person has come up to me and been very upset that I pointed them out and that their expenses are totally legitimate. I was in that person's office when that person read the email and was like,

you know, I have to do, I have to spend this money. It's not like I'm spending it for myself. And you go, it was a joke and he's like, and I was not letting it go. I was standing between the two offices. I was like, whoa. And you were literally like, it was just a joke, man. I don't care. It's fine. It's just a joke. And that person was not going to let it it go he spent less money the next month though money on that works I called me out for for buying this new laptop after I just bought this computer and I of course replied because I had already been taking shit with with It's very rare that Gus will send the passive aggressive email that we all are guilty of every once in a while

It's sorry. That's my watch again. It was a I'd already been taking shit for the computer so I was like, that's it. I was on a trip, I was stressed out, I was like, that's it. You like had, so I fucking replied. You've got a new catchphrase now. Bravo. Bravo. That's how you signed your email. He did, he did with Bravo.

Bravo guys. So that was it, I wasn't taking it anymore. Yeah, so he came back at me hard. We actually, the discussion between Gus and I got so tense, I actually took it off the group list and took it to private one to one. That's when Bernie realized Gus was buying a laptop out of his own pocket, not out of Bernie's pocket.

You have a brain new computer? Do you want... You know what? This computer doesn't work very well when I'm on trips. So do you need a computer when you're on trips? Hey when the website broke when I was on the trip how did I fix it? Was it some kind of computational device? I must have been a computer. How would I have used it with this new computer in my office when I was running across the country? How did you even get

to see an old computer? I want you to buy a fucking plane. Hey, you have to burn it, you use that computer to break it so that you can fix it. If I see you on YouTube all day, why don't you price that out? Maybe we need one of those YouTube's. Get a YouTube. Listen, that's totally the same thing. You have a laptop. You have a laptop. I want to replace for myself my own use.

And then I'm going to ship for buying my own, myself a computer. I also don't think it's a fuck, quizzes, so we were not a town on the ship, bro. I said to Jeff, I said, I noticed that every single thing that broke, it's something you can break remotely. You can't scatter. Nothing that you would have to physically unplug, bro. You know, having forbid I buy a computer to fix stuff when it breaks.

Yeah, you were terrible, I think. Oh, hey, is that where you were yesterday? You were at the, at the, uh, color? You know what, really how? Oh, I need to go fix the fuck. The email list is Thunderbolts! That's gonna help us. Hey, how many, how many gigahertz do you need to run terminal?

I'm gonna help you. You know? Let me know, fill me in. I missed you guys. I didn't. Also, I also wanna point out to cut. I wanna point out to Gus that I had to say an email that why are we buying a first generation hardware

Interface from Apple. I mean I couldn't add any more qualify To make it a bad decision. It's an Intel interface. Okay I mean, it's just like it just and he said in email, I'm going to buy this laptop, day one, new MacBook Pro, because I understand that there might be interfaces that allow us to mobile capture it, possibly some point in the future. I'm like, what do we wait till possibly some point in the future and buy the laptop then,

whenever these fictional devices come out? How did your first generation hardware MacBook Air workout for you? I don't have a first generation. Or the revision. That's a generation, excuse me. This is generation six of the MacBook Pro. Why you?

I'm just saying, you bought J1. The one that they, the announcement closed. You bought a brand new laptop from Apple. First generation. I bought the sixth generation of the MacBook Pro. You bought generation two of the MacBook Air. I'm gonna cross my arms You know what? You ain't got shit on me burns look at you fucking soaking over there in the corner

Every point refuted my god How are we man? Oh the dog woke up. I've cheated. Sorry This is definitely a video podcast to watch What do you need me equipment to edit? Any podcast together? Don't you get started too? You'll end up in a fucking Sarajevo hotel. You are traveling so much you asshole. I'm gonna put you in fucking Timbuk too. You will be bitching

about the train ride from there. God. Come at me bro. It has been the increase in employee issues. I don't know what it is. It's been lately. Yeah Hit over there There was a metallic twang in that you probably like popped a pin in your arm or something like that Did you guess you have any metallic pins anywhere? You seem like a kid currently no I love how you had to think about that like

pins anywhere? You seem like a kid. Currently no. I love how you had to think about that. Like, do I have any metal in your body? Just seems like the kind of kid who broke his arm, you know, as a young boy and he wasn't able to heal on some. At Map Camp? I never broke a bone. You can even have massive fight over. He got a fracture doing fractions. For the calculator. Yeah, one bit of an arm. Yeah, I was gonna say a big fight over the chalk. Or like whiplash from raising his hand too quickly. That's it. That's it. That's it.

That's it. That's it. That's it. Okay, just Gryffinds get in the video, tell. That's it. That's it. Oh my God. But wait, teacher, you didn't give us homework.

That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. Oh my god. But wait teacher, you didn't give us homework? LOL You know, once when I was in third grade, I actually went to the office because we didn't have a teacher. Our teacher didn't show up for some reason and we didn't have a substitute. And I thought everyone in the class is gonna fucking kill me. That's part of the clothes that came to having a broken bone. Really? Because you wouldn't got a teacher. So I wouldn't got a teacher because we did not have a teacher. What the fuck is wrong with you? You fucked it up, dude And then in like seventh grade you read Lord of the Flash and you're like, oh, yeah, that'd have been awesome

I don't think like if there's like suddenly a bunch of kids in a group that are in charge of each other like I don't know if you would have done well Gus. No, no, that would have been the system for you He was trying to avoid what it was. I cried when Piggies glasses broke. I know. That was so sad. You know, there was this. There's a big hub about, have you guys

seen the footage of the soccer player? I want to say they're in Central America or South America. Where probably a good guess. Well, you're probably a good guess. Or maybe Europe or Northern Africa. One of those places, for sure. But they were, they were having a match and one of the teams has an owl for a mascot. And, gosh, you can look up owl and soccer and I'm sure you'll find tons of links on this. So the owl somehow was flying around and landed on the field and they were in the corner and

it got kicked the ball. Kicked the ball, hit the owl. The owl gets stunned. When the people who have seen this are not going to like you laughing at it. The owl is kind of stunned, it's kind of laying there, like looking around like this. And the opposing team soccer player walks up to look at it and just kicks the ever-living shit out of it. You can't actually see how far he kicked it, but just how fast it leaves frame.

And his excuse was, he was trying to see if it could still fly. No, I see here. Morino has apologized and says he was trying to see if it could still fall No, I see here. It says more in his apologize and says he was trying to help the bird by waking it up With his cleats is there like any does he get punished for that? He's probably a yellow card, right? And it was their mascot So it was the opposing team's mascot. It was and he was playing in their stadium So he's like, yeah, I was trying to see if it could still fly. Ha ha ha They said, ha ha. Guess what? You're going to fucking jail. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah, so he doesn't leave.

So now he's in this, one thing you never want to do is break a law and a foreign country. Probably good for him to be in jail because the entire country, probably after him. Well, it was in Colombia. If that's any, if that's any, I'm like, oh, my God. So I don't actually wouldn't want to be in a Colombian.

Chances are he might have already been shot by the time he hit the owl. Yeah, but you know, but anyway, so there's a big discussion though about like we talked about kids in a classroom alone. There's a big discussion about how cruel it was to kick us out. There's no question. It's absolutely cruel. It's terrible to kick that owl and you know occasionally someone will pop up in a forum thread and go, you know, there's probably about 20 billion things that happened to people in that same day committed by other people. There were 10 times worse than what happened to the owl. The owl did die, you know, there's probably about 20 billion things that happened to people in that same day committed by other people There were 10 times worse than what happened to Owl. The Owl did die, you know

But it's like you say with kids. It's like if you put kids in a room We have this notion that we you know like we want to treat Owl's well and we want to treat each other well You put kids in a room alone If there's 20 kids probably one of those kids is going to be killed by the other kids within the hour Yeah, without a supervision something really nasty is going to be killed by the other kids within the hour without a supervision. Something really nasty is going to happen just because kids are, you know, baseline humans and having all that society layered on top of them. You know that was, I had a class at Texas State, it was called Magic, Richelon Religion

and at some point we did like a Satanist section where they talked about Satanism and who was at the St. and Bible back in the 60s to 70s? Anton Leve is that right? Yeah. Something like that. Anton Leve is a dude. I didn't obviously with the wrote the St. Louis Bible back in the 60s to 70s? Some Anton Leveis, is that right? Something like that? Anton Leveis would do. I didn't obviously with the New York Times. You're the air-con. But that was one of his points for St. Louis for St. Louis.

That people don't start out good. That's not a natural inclination. If you just start with kids, kids aren't going to be like, you have to teach them to share, teach them not to hit. The people by nature have these desires and that like really didn't, was essentially invented to make you feel guilty about them all the time. So that was sort of, I don't know where I'm going with this, but it's interesting that you brought that up.

It was anti-loving, by the way. And now civilization as well, you know, I mean, it depends on, you know, it's just anything like laws or, you know, religion or anything like that. It's just, it is intended basically to weed the human instincts out of you as fast as you can. And that was the red discussion is they were talking about how cruel this is and how humans are so cruel to other animals who could do that. It's like, if it was another animal would do that heartbeat, you know what I mean?

It's like, the way, if you asked other animals what they think about conservation, other animals don't give a shit about this. Yeah, but I would hope we're elevated above the state of animals. Exactly. I know, I totally agree. I mean, the guy should absolutely go to jail, but it's like, we do get amazingly just livid about something that happens to an animal, and yet we have like four wars going on the world right now, you know.

Yeah. You know, it's one of those things. I guess you could always do a better job at something or there's always something worse. But I mean, this is like, I mean, people are one to post this guy's personal information. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. No, it's a very good point. I mean, Kadoffi is bombing towns or cities in Libya right now and people complaining about an owl. Yeah, I don't know if it's just, it might, it's partly the owl, but partly, anything you make something a mascot, it's like it becomes a representation of your team. Yeah. People get weird about sports. Maybe you don't have as you can't exert as much control over Kadoffi bombing people,

but you can exert control over this one thing, this guy kicking an owl, maybe it's something people see is more attainable and something that can affect versus affecting the direction of a country. I don't know, it's heavy discussion. That guy's fucked up though. Yeah. I don't know what the attitude is in Central America, but i mean if that guy was in america you know he'd be he'd have told a little michael vicks back in action jail for two years yeah i'm like you want to prison i mean that's not

you know michael vick i just i just uh heard got uh labeled a hero by some organization i didn't read why i just just saw the headline. Was it the United cats of America? Here's my advice. If you're an America, never heard an animal. Always pay your taxes. Yes. Always. On time with the smile. That has to be the most important part

above being an America. Our American is paying your taxes. The South Eastern Virginia Arts Association. So very prestigious. There you go. South Eastern Virginia Arts Association. So very prestigious. There you go. The southeastern Virginia Arts Association. You know, it makes sense. Nothing. Nothing in that statement made any sense at all. The southeastern Virginia Arts Association. I think Michael Vic founded this association about a year ago. He's playing like the long con. Why would they

honor Michael Vic for epitomizing the word hero? what? I guess Michael here's here's what I can figure Michael Vick went to Virginia Tech Which might be somewhere in southeast Virginia, so this sounds like a college alumni thing. He's They're honoring his resilience and overcoming obstacles and becoming a true example of life success for all to emulate Dude paid his debts in society. Yeah, but football I don't want to success for all to emulate. Dude, paint is that's a society. Yeah, but football. I don't want to say that. Roger Ebert here, but football is not an art.

Yeah, here's a quote from the president of that organization. People talk about Michael Vick as a convicted felon. Well, so was Jesus Christ. Yeah, he was able to do things above and beyond the naysayers to the point that we all recognize him today as Lord and Savior. He was also in a dogfighting. Oh, Michael Vick or Jesus. I thought the end of that was talking about Michael Vick and then pulled out Lord and Savior. He was also in a dogfighting. Michael Vick or Jesus. Oh, I thought the end of that was talking about Michael Vick and then it pulled out Lord and Savior.

I mean, he's got a good, you know, cross the middle pass. But let's not go crazy. You can talk to the ball in a run. He used to be a lot better runner. I think those running quarterbacks, I think they tend to get older fast. They wear out quick. Yeah, definitely. I think those running quarterbacks, I think they tend to get older fast. They wear out good. Yeah. Definitely. I also read another thing recently, as I tend to do on the internet, that I read an article that said that the average lifespan of an NFL player is 54 years. Wow. Something like that. I think I'm, I think on me Gus, I'm going to refer to you again for verification, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is. Which is like a blacksmith in 1830.

I wonder how that compares to other sports. Like, how would that compare to boxing? Or like the average, I would think lifespan for baseball players, probably like 114. Boxers seem to live an unfortunately long life. Yeah, unfortunately, let me run. Yeah, that it hurts them in horrible ways, but they don't die from it unless they die in the ring. It's also, it doesn't seem to affect like lesser weight boxers. You know, like, sugar ray Leonard seems fine, but you look at a Muhammad Ali or anyone that

was a heavyweight, you know. Sugar ray was in the fighter, the Mark Wahlberg movie. Oh, was he? Well, the older brother was his whole thing was he was a fighter himself. And he had knocked down Sugar ray Leonard in a fight and that was like his huge claim to fame in what he made him the pride of this town that they were all from and he was just he was obsessed kind of with that moment you know glory day is kind of a thing and when they're actually at a fight and Sugar Ray is commentating he tries to talk to him the guy of course you remember

them and he's like yeah but you actually sugar rate in the movie. You look great. Yeah, he just is on gonna be on the new season of Dancing with the Stars. Yeah, sugar rate Leonard. So yeah, the average life expectancy of an NFL player is 52 to 59. 52 to 50. Lower if you're on the line. It varies depending on position. Wow, so the like an offensive or defensive of alignment is what you're saying? Yep. Yeah, that's like getting in a fight 100 times in an afternoon. Yeah, I couldn't imagine that You think those guys they look across your jacket. We're just taking these in this one Nobody's gonna be here all right

They have to write. I mean, you can't you can't go to a full wrestling match Every essentially 45 seconds I couldn't hours. I wonder what it's like for rugby players. I watched a lot of Aussie rules football because there's only fucking two channels in Australia and I was either that or cricket. And those guys take such a beating too, man. They're constantly stepping on each other's heads and constantly punching each other in the dick and stuff. And they have no gear on whatsoever. I saw a video of the other day of guests of these two soccer players and one of them, you know, they were kind of like jostling for a position. One of them was receiving a pass. And one of the soccer players grabbed the other guys arm and then hit himself in the face with it. I mean, fell down and flocked. So it looked like the other player hit him, but it was really the guy

picked up the other guys arm and hit himself in the face. You think it's the biggest problem with watching soccer in America? We can't say no to all the theatrical stuff. Yeah, I find it really like off-putting when we're watching the World Cup. What all the flopping? Yeah, I mean, I know that's part of the strategy, but it's just like, it's not something to be proud of. I think the most off-putting thing for people watching in America is that there's not enough scoring. Like, you should be getting excited when there's not enough scoring. Like you should be

getting excited when there's the threat of scoring, but Americans want to be excited when there is scoring. I don't know if that makes sense. Somebody also done a good point about that to me where if you saw a game that was three to two, that would be the equivalent of a 21 to 14 football game. Absolutely. You wouldn't feel like that was low scoring. Right. Yeah. I always say that with football, when you when the play starts, someone's either going to get hit or somebody's going to score. That's going to happen every single time.

To occasionally somebody might run out of bounds. But you're either going to see a big hit, potentially, every down or a score. One of those two things has to happen. Where's the soccer? There's a whole lot where you're just kind of waiting for something to build. Yeah. There's a lot of waiting in the middle passing passing Do you remember what was that sport that we saw it was in Australia as well? It was like chariot look like chariot racing That's what it was it was chariot racing

24 hours a day. It was a lot like the other channel. Yeah, I was it really chariot racing Yeah, no, it's really fucking and you like it's like it's gambling I guess there's bad going on It's a two-wheel thing where they lay back in it kind of yeah, yeah, yeah It's called something else. It's on there's a channel in Australia devoted to that I'm sure whatever we name we have for two is wrong like I'm sure in Australia they call it something different There were literally 15 channels one of them was 20 for our yoga one of them is 24 hour chariot One of them was classic Aussie rules football 24 hours a day one of them was 24 hour yoga, one of them was 24 hour chariot. One of them was classic Aussie rules football

24 hours a day. One of them was cricket and The there's one channel that had like the golden girls and a bunch of tattoos and reality. The other channels were all reruns of Family. If you hit if in one trip to Australia if you can figure out the rules to Aussie rules football and to cricket If you can crack both those codes, I think you see God. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I think I've met people who live in Australia and still don't know the rules to Aussie rules football. Yeah, what are the rules like just drink? Just drink it here. When everyone else cheers just here, okay. The last the last guy who figured them both out was called a hero by the southeastern Virginia. What then this while we were gone?

Yes, we're gone about a week, right? Just production stuff. We had the last short views, was Inception Guy, we're working on our videos that we're going to be showing at packs in Boston. We will be at packs in Boston on March 12th. Is that right? 11th? Yeah, our panels on the 12th.

We'll be there the 11th through the 13th. But our panel is, I understand, a 2 o'clock on Saturday, right? Yes, we should probably verify that because someone's been saying we've been saying the wrong time But what are we showing? We will be showing some cool stuff and some other cool stuff Which is also we should have three total videos to show so we might be a little crimp for time on Q&A Yeah, but if you're a fan of some of our productions, you might want to be there to see

Some other videos that we're going to be showing. That sounds cool. Oh, while we're mentioning, Griffin and I will be doing an appearance at the Emerald City Comic Con this weekend. There you go. Yep. On Saturday, the date of that being March 5th, literally this Saturday. This Saturday. Three days from now. We'll be signing at the 343 booth ad. I think noon to one or one to two. I think it's like 11, we have to be there at 1145,

so probably noon. No, but I would stop by the booth because we'll have people there all the time that are related to the Haley universe. And Jeff and Griffin will only have an hour at the booth. Yeah, so we're just a, we're just an hour in that rotation of probably a lot more interesting and important people. Most cons will be stunning. When we go to them, there's, you know, we're there all day long at the booth and there's a rotation of people who are there, but it's always somebody from Rischief, but that will

not be the case of this one. We will only be there for one hour. Pax panel. I finally found the information. Got it. It's Saturday, the main theater, 430 to 530. 430? That's a problem.

We were saying earlier. Okay. 2. So it's 430 to 530. 430, that's a problem we were saying earlier. Okay, two. So it's 430 to 530. Yes. So if you know, come before dinner, it'll be excellent. You'll see some quality video products with a nice live audience. Who all is going? It's us four and Monty. And Monty and Jack.

And Jack. Yeah, okay. Matt has now been grumbling about, maybe I should go to PAX. Oh yeah. Well, I hope it doesn't mind commuting from Jersey. Okay, yeah, why? There's no hotel.

The hotel situation got pretty packed over there. Packed. Packed? Packed at PAX? Hey, do we have hotels for Comic-Con? San Diego? Yeah. Yeah, why?

Why did you pause when you said that? Because that's a weird question. Why do you know something I don't? No, I was just wondering, because it's one of the things we always have to, why wouldn't we? We always have to book so far in advance And I just wondered if you'd done it. Okay. Yeah. I always take care of him in November So it's I

Where we do you know where we're staying this year? We got the Marriott. Okay, good great attached to the convention center That hotel we were that hotel we were at last year sucked But we had the best view the best hotel room ever. Yeah, it was awesome We've progressively gotten better at attending Comic Con. It's been, the first time we stayed, we were about 10 miles away. And we thought it wouldn't be a big deal. And now, man, last year we drove by there for some reason. And it was like, what the fuck was wrong with us?

Oh my God, yeah. The first year we didn't know how much to bring. So we had a storage unit that we had right off site. To be, in my defense, that was back when I was doing travel. That first year, we didn't know we were going to Comic Con until literally like 25 days before we got accepted because somebody dropped out. So then I had to book a hotel rooms in San Diego 25 days out. It would be very interesting to know who that person was that dropped out because I'm fairly certain

that we started attending Comic Con in the last year when there was any available booths left. Well, what happened is I think it wasn't necessarily maybe that someone dropped out. Is that year, is the first year they expanded to take the whole convention center? You know, that last hall, they didn't have that in the exhibition hall up until that year. Sounds like an entire other convention dropped out. Yeah, so I think they just, you know, bumped up to take the whole center and then we got lucky. We got really lucky. I read somewhere like a year or two ago that they get like two times the

amount of vendor submissions than they can accommodate Intake it's insane. Which is why we can't ever seem to move up and get a bigger booth Even though we try that's true and we have a corner booth and we constantly have people offering to buy our space from us Yeah, we have to trade our other space for that booth right and we got lucky to even have that other space We used to be at the back then we got managed somehow to get moved over by Penny Arcade. Right. Then we swapped out with a PPP. We have kind of like an internet section there. Yeah. Yeah. PPP, Penny Arcade. Just, is you think PPP will have their own booth each year? They're gonna go into the Penny Arcade booth. It's a good question. I don't know. They'll probably keep that booth.

Or they'll just, you know, coo the Paneer K guys will just consume it and expand even further. They have, Paneer K's been there for two years longer than we have, right? Or maybe even, I think two or three. And they have, they have three connected booths in Elle. They're in there, over there in their fucking corner palace. They've got their 10 by 30 dollars.

They're in the Tetris Fucker, that Elle. So, yeah, so this week is Emerald City Comic Con up its Seattle and then next week is Pax in Boston and then at the end of March we will be appearing at Megacon in Orlando Florida with William Schattner. Meg, I'm excited. You do not have a hotel for that, Yannick. No. I need to book that. Yeah. Anyway, I'm excited. William Schattner's gonna be there. We're trying to say hi. Are you going to try to go to Disney World? I don't. I don't.

We're trying to actually, Millie's going with us because we don't have any family in town. So we have been trying to keep it from her that Disney World's even in Florida. Parents of the year right here. That's what you wanted to find out. What do you want to tell her? Nobody to ask. What if she starts listening to the podcast? No, she won't.

When Millie goes to therapy in 10 years or 20 years from now The therapist will say what do you want to start with she goes how about this? She's gonna take a 20 episodes of this podcast put him down to go just listen to these You know terrible I'll come back in two weeks She wanted to watch wife out last night, and I told her that if she did some chores She could watch it with me and so she did all her chores and she sits down to watch it on Hulu and the ad is a Disney World ad So I made her leave the room till the ad was over. So I didn't want her to see it.

You wanted a subjective commercialization? No, I just, yeah, I didn't want to put Mickey Mouse back in her brain. With this trip coming up. So what were her shorts? What is it, what is a, now five years ago? She learned how to vacuum, last night. Oh yeah?

Do a pretty good job. Yeah, she cleans her room and she sweeps and vacuums. Is she, her job is collecting eggs. Yeah, she collects eggs every and she sweeps and vacuums. Is she, her job is collecting eggs. Yeah, she collects eggs every day. She's a little like basket. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, pretty cool. Does she feed the chickens too?

No, no, that's really good. How are those chickens? Did they survive the winter? They're fine. We finally sold our chocobo the rooster to be like a woman who added like a herm of hands that were lonely. The rooster who could not tell time and would forget when he started crying at 2.30 in the morning I decided it was time to

letting all the drunks know go home last call so let me show this at one point when you first got the chickens it was very clear oh it's no problem we'll get chickens will you know use them for the eggs and then after they reach a certain point we'll just eat them and I said I said, you're not going to eat your chickens. And you said, why wouldn't we? Will you eat our chickens? No problem. We're not going to eat our chickens. Never ever, right? No. You're too attached to them now. I mean, even with Chocobo, I didn't even list them for free on Craigslist because I was worried that he would just become somebody's dinner. So I made it like $2.00. She was very clear that he was a silky, and his meat

is not good to eat. You will not like this chicken trust me. Yeah, I had that conversation with the woman So as urban farmers you're Partially committed. We also don't even eat the eggs for the worst We have we like there's no reason I've taken so I was except for pets So do you feel bad for the eggs? No, we give them away to people no, it's just like we just turns out We don't cook at home or eat eggs that often you don't cook at home That being said I I boiled eggs this often. You don't cook at home? That being said, I boiled eggs this morning.

We turned it over, the stove off. Uh oh. I think so. You did it. I would think so. Why would I leave it on? The neighborhood smell like eggs when I came in this morning. That's related at all.

Um, yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not. Do you know that? The egg smell? Natural gas has no smell. Oh right, yeah. So they add the smell. Do you know that the egg smell natural gas has no smell right? Yeah, so they add the smell Are you seeing the eggs were burning right? I'm sorry. I was going with the natural gas sulfur smell No, no, I was trying to help you and I ended up confusing it Yeah, so we do need to cook more because we we have been ordering a lot of pizzas in Chinese food But breaking news the iPad 2 is official

Oh, you all would like to know that don't tell us all about it. No, so it has a camera in Chinese food. Breaking news, the iPad 2 is official. Oh! You don't tell us all about it? No. So it has a camera? Yes, front and rear facing cameras. All right. I don't like any more cameras. I don't like those things.

That's not a feature that I missed on the iPad 1. I know a lot of people complained about it, but I've never been hanging out with my iPad and thought, I wish I had a camera. True, but I guess FaceTime would be cool. You've got the little doodle, like app on there, right? So if you wanted to do like film stuff, you could take a picture of what you've got in front of you

and then on top of like, bring it into that program and just draw what you want to do. I mean, it would make things easier. If you wanted to use that so- Like storyboarding on the plot. Yeah. You just blew my mind. I think that's Matt's been holding off

because he wants to buy the next generation. He's got a camera. I don't think he does actually. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he does. No, I don't think he does. He bought one and he did it for three years. Well, his wife doesn't know about it. Really?

Yeah, she doesn't know this part of it. You guys want to be alone? Need a minute. It's one of the things, Gus, or Jeff, that you you don't have it so you can't imagine why you need it But once you then have it you'll probably But I've never you'd probably read about that but like I have I've I phone fours and I've never used face time That's probably true. Yep, you know, so it's like I don't think I would use it on the iPad because I don't use it on my I've had would be better to use it. I mean because it's larger and it would be yeah for sure to do it that way

Well, it's like the same thing be Yeah, sure to do it that way Well, it's like the same thing. Have you ever used video conferencing on your computer? No never It seems like that was when I was talking to everybody growing up and technology we were making we had to make video phones We had to make video communication and now it's just it's massively inconvenient who wants to deal with it Yeah, and it's super easy, but I still don't want to do it. Yeah, why do you need to see someone? I don't get it. You really don't. I mean, part of the fun of doing the call instead of going to a meeting is that you

can't, you don't know exactly what you're doing, you don't have to worry about like wearing a suit. Yeah, it might be a generational thing though, because when Gavin comes to stay with us sometimes, he is skyping video- video skyping with people constantly. Well, I think if you grew up like Gavin was in high school when Skype came out essentially, I think if you grew up and your first experience was video chat, it would just seem very natural to you.

But it's like, I'm just, I get all the information I need out of audio. Yeah, same here. Like the internet, they'll have the internet move from text to mostly video, it seems like that. A lot of times I'm just like, man, I just want to read this. I can read it so much faster and so I can listen to somebody tell me the information. Yeah, it's annoying, like, especially if you were going on, like, see an inference,

for instance, half of the articles or half of the headlines are video, and you're like, well, I guess I'm not going to know what happened in blank. And it seems like they used to tell you there'd be a little camera icon. And it was video now, it's just a crap shoot. And when I see it, I'm like, oh, man. As guys, you make a video on the internet. I probably shouldn't say this too much. I don't know if you want to read Red versus Blue's Grips.

I will not click on a video link for news at all. It just seemed weird, right? Yeah, no. It's too slow. And one thing too, especially for video conferencing, I mean, even in a fun way. But you were talking about recently how, with texting and

like, aim people say more and they're like, they act a little bit more openly in some ways than they would normally, if you were looking at them directly in the face. And I wonder if that interferes when you're like doing video chatting or whatever. Like, if you're a little bit more, like yourself, or you may not open up as much. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Plus on a video conference call, you can't be in the room with a bunch of other people mute the Congo But we ought to see you doing that My I had a guy that I worked with one time he said you know business would be a lot easier if you had a phone That would let you listen

For the five seconds immediately following the phone call like the connection just open, and they hang up and the guys go, that was fucking wasted. Yeah. That was always the same. That was always the one nice summary comment that's made. There's another change on the internet that I want to complain about. Since I'm in a complaining move, I gotta thank you guys.

I started off this podcast in a fucking terrible mood. When we went to hit record, I was in a bad mood. Why? Now I'm in a better mood. Why are you in a bad mood? Just because I just, you know, I mentioned earlier that you know employee issues that we have We seem to have more now than we did in the past. Yeah, you know as we as we grow with more people And I just had to deal with some employee issues who probably are listening to the podcast from the comfort of their home

But it's something that bugs me that I've run into lately on the internet is I've noticed now there's these when I go to sites and I'm watching something or it's like just a general content site or whatever There's this new trend where there's a block of pictures that have headlines under them like their articles Oh, click on these pictures and they they don't take you to the article They take you to another site and I think MGID is one of the big ones. MGID and Tulip, I think are the two big ones. Exactly, yeah, you know what I'm talking about. And then you're in this site and you're like, what am I looking at?

I'm like, okay, it took me to a different site. Well, there's the article that I wanted to read or a picture gallery that I want to see. And I click it and it has nothing to do with it. It's like spam, but it's not even the courtesy of taking you to a different site to show you what you want to see. They just show you random garbage. And really reputable sites put these MGID interfaces up on their stuff. It makes no sense. That's a lot.

It happens a lot with them when I'm doing imagery search for design. Like, designs have so worse sometimes because they'll show you a really cool concept, but they rotate that stuff out. And then you can never find the original thing on that site again. It's super frustrating too, because when we were building out this place, when there was furniture, and we wanted to bring stuff in that was really cool, it's like, wow, here we go, this couch is perfect, look how cool this couch is, and then we drill down, and it's like, there's so many sites that are just design

sites, and it's like, you see this awesome, cool chair, it's like, oh, this is just a concept. Yeah, it's like, you know, we just, this is just a computer rendering of this chair, or, what was the big thing, the pillows that look like stones? Yeah, and you try to buy something recently,, it's like, you know, we just, this is just a computer rendering of this chair. Or what was the big thing that the pillows that look like stones? Yeah. Remember that? And you tried to buy something recently and you're like, and you couldn't, it just kept,

I had to have the whole room. I had just tried to help me. I found a thing on one of those design sites that was a like a flat wall, it was like a shelf, wall shelf kind of like you'd see at IKEA, but it was shiny and white. Yeah.

And it was speakers, free or iPhone. And it was a dark in it, but it was shiny and white. Yeah. And it was speakers for your iPhone. And it had like a iPhone dock in it. But it was also just a shelf. It was really cool and a very sleek design. And I thought, that'd be perfect for my bedroom. And you can't buy it. You can't find it anywhere. I would go to, we got in this loop

that we couldn't figure out how to get out of it. It was awful. Norwegian site where they were like, if you want to buy it, go to the distributor. And so I click on the distributor, and the distributor has a link to it. And the link takes you back to the site. Wow. And there were like three distributors want to buy it, go to the distributor. And so I click on the distributor and the distributor has a link to it, and the link takes you back to the site. Wow.

And there were like three distributors and they all did that. And you could just, it was impossible. It was impossible to buy this piece of equipment. I have no idea how much it cost or how to buy it, because the one store in Norway that sells it doesn't let you buy it online. When we first started looking for, you know, the stuff as you were mentioning, there were some cool like couches that almost look like puzzle pieces. And you can like configure them anyway you want to. So, uh, started looking,

trying to find a way to buy them, and eventually I found a store, like, an actual brick and mortar place in California that would sell them, and then so they told me to call the manufacturer, and then I called the manufacturer, and then, or like went to their site, and then it's like, well, you need to like send an email if you want information, which is always the death of me buying anything. Yeah. So then I sent it and they're like, okay, well, how much would the sofa cost? So like, well, it depends on the materials and whatever.

And I'm like, okay, well, how do I find out about that? And they're like, just tell us what you're interested in. Tell us as you dimensions of the material you want. I'm like, I don't even know what's available. And then we did this email thing back and forth and eventually I just gave up on it. Because first of all, I'm sure it's way too expensive if they don't list the price.

But I don't understand that anyway. It's like, if you want to sell it and you have a website, just put the fucking price on there and a way up on it. Because first of all, I'm sure it's way too expensive if they don't list the price. But I don't understand that anyway. It's like if you want to sell it and you have a website, just put the fucking price on there in a way to buy it. Like why do you have to like, why does anyone have to call anyone anymore? I hate that. You know, plus the like,

we tell us what fabric you want. You're like, all right, I want tweed. We'll tell you about tweed. What is it? Yeah, I'll tell you what it is. Yeah, like if there's, if you, if we have to customize it, then show it's where we can customize it.

Yeah. Yeah. Give me some options in it. Yeah. Just tell us what material. I want transparent aluminum. Do you have that? No, but I'll take what you have. Yeah, I also have a weird feeling to you that because they've put this design out there,

like because this shelf with speakers in it, that they have that on the web, that it's somehow preventing someone else from actually making it. Yeah. Like the logic tech or somebody will go, oh, we should make shelves as speakers and they look it up like, oh, no, I'm sorry, it makes it. Yeah. Oh, well, if you're just to get a little more and see that you can't actually buy that.

Yeah. It is weird. I mean, it's a very specific problem when you're going out to look for unique items and then unique items exist, but not in the world. I had a similar problem the other day where, it was actually yesterday, where I buy, I started buying a lot of my clothes online for convenience and I go through this site, Jack Threads. You made fun of me for this? No, no, it's true.

And they list, they have like, it's kind of like Groupon for clothes where they'll be like, hey, today we're having a sale on. Yeah, but like this particular brand and we have 10 styles and they're 75% off. And so I bought a pair of pants. Do they make sure that? To bet while I do this? No, terribly.

Just like a pair of pants. So I bought a pair of pants on that site and they came in and they were great and they fit me really well. And I thought, oh, cool, I wanna buy this pair of pants again. Can't get it on that site because they were only there for a day. So I look at the brand and I find the brand and they don't on the store on the brand like how do you have a clothing company and not sell your products on the internet?

They're like so distributors. Yeah, they're like you can find us in any of our distributors search in your area And it's like of course there's not any taxes search in your air So it's like I put on my zip code. They're like yeah, you can't buy these pants in Texas. Sorry buddy Fuck no, no, we're on the internet to buy it. It's a long play Jeff They're trying to teach you by eight pairs of pants. If you like these things so much, I guess so. Don't fuck around and you want at a time.

Well, it's six months if they appear on that side again, I guess I'll buy more. Deft does this thing where like every, I'd say maybe every three or four years, you'll switch uniforms. Like Jeff will decide he wants to wear like a certain, like he'll like to wear dicks with white t-shirts. And then he'll get that same outfit and like six versions, whatever,

like all the different colors of dicky pants and then a black and white t-shirts. And then he'll like need to change things up a bit. So then three years later he'll like have a new uniform, which is like like jeans and vans with like a button or like a polo. You were polo for a while. But you're kind of in a, you're in a new uniform stage. You stage. You're like coming up with a new uniform. What's my new uniform? You wear a lot of like plaid but not like pearl snap shirts and it's new. Well relative linear. What like newer than like a onesie jumpy when you was like, because you wore those at icons all last year. I know because I was I would always have to call Jeff and go, are you know, where are the exact same thing that I'm

wearing today? Are we going to do that the whole time? Are we all going to be wearing plaid and have beards in the booth the exact same thing that I'm wearing today? Are we gonna do the stuff? Are we all gonna be wearing plaid and have beards in the booth again? I'm not wearing those butt-nubs that much lately because it's too much hassle to button up. So I'm just wearing American Apparel T-shirts because it's too much work to put on a long sleeve shirt. I also think women do the uniform thing too.

They just do it once a week. They just, they immediately change it out over and over again. But I wanna do that But I I want to do that. I would love to dress like a cartoon character and literally wear the same thing every single day. It would be kind of nice like if we could get to the future already and we all have like the same leotard and not have to think about it anymore. Yeah, that sounds awesome. Yeah, I try to put as little thought as possible into like what I'm wearing. Like I literally just

all my clothes You know in a line in the closet and I just grab whatever's next. I don't want to think about it Yeah, can I tell you something? I don't I don't shop for my clothes and I don't pick out my clothes at all my wife does all that stuff That's why you have those lobster shorts. So I have lobster I have shorts. I have embroidered lobster son I'm like from three, four years ago, by the way. We remember them. I find a great system where I hate to go shopping for clothes

because I hate going into that little closet and changing in and out of clothes. Changing in and out of clothes for a guy is a huge hassle. I don't, I don't want to get. Why is it worse for a guy than a girl? Guys, girl, I don't know. You tell me, girls do it all the time. No, but then if you buy, if you don't try the clothes on,

you get a moment, it's a weird fit. Like it doesn't matter what your size is. Griffin, everything to the customer. Griffin gets mad at me because if I go to Target, I'll buy like four pairs of jeans, and then I'll take them home and try them on. And if they don't fit, I take them back. That's right.

And she thinks that's a way, that's- Even if you go to the store twice, I would anyone ever want to do that. I think I'll back to that story again anyway. At some point, like when I go to a store and I'm with my wife, we have to buy, to buy pants or something. And we go to Banana Republic, let's say,

is that someone business at a place where we get close? Okay, I go and I have, like I try and a pair of, you know, 29 inch waist pants and they fit in there. And then she says, okay, we'll then try on these. And I go, what size are they? They're 29s, you know, which clearly I wear.

Let's just buy them because these fit, they're fine. She's like, no, you need to try these on too. And I'm like, no, to try these on too and I'm like no because every pair of jeans is different sort of cut and Bullshit I used to be in that camp but about six months ago I got fucked about two different pairs of slacks like that one of them fit fine The other didn't even though they were exact same size. Yeah, because the size is so consistent. That's a fucking supplier problem Or design problem if they're the same size they should fit the different different companies Two will change their sizing like especially for women's clothing because they want to like make their customers feel better

So the change the size so you feel like you're wearing a smaller size What's women's clothing is just that arbitrary number that has no basis in reality? No, exactly so in so style and sizing are like inconsistent. So you have to try things on awful Awful, where's our where our spatially a tarp? That's right. I'm trying to sell the problem. You just want to be part of the problem. That's the way I sit.

So here's, I'm just acknowledging the problem. There's a problem. And participating, I think. Yeah, part-discipline. So here's what I do, guess, and you should adopt the same thing as well. My wife buys all my clothes, and this is what she does. She goes to the mall and she buys me a bunch of different stuff.

And then she comes home with it and then I try it on at home in the comfort of my own home. And then whatever I don't like or needs to be returned because it doesn't fit. She then takes it back. So it's like two trips to the mall for my wife. Very happy. She's having the full shopping experience. But no trips for you.

And then I end up with one outfit out of like like 10. So that's it's a good system. It's like a personal shopper. It works really well and she loves it and she never listens to the podcast. So so never find out what benefit I'm getting out of it. You're safe. Because I'd be like Jeff, I would I would wear, you know, the same thing every day. I would wear this one.

What are you wearing today? You have on gray t-shirts. A gray American apparel t-shirt and blue jeans. We interviewed today for a position at the company. And I said, Jeff, can you go in and do this interview for me? And I said to Brandon, Brandon, will you just take care of it? Because we were doing it in pairs.

But I would trust Brandon over Jeff as well. Well, today's a crazy day. And I thought, I interviewed thousands of people of the old textbook. I almost texted Jeff. I almost texted Brandon and said, hey, don't take Jeff in there with you when you get the interview. It's kind of a different position.

And I didn't, I came in and I go, Jack, where's Jeff? I guess he's in the interview with Brian. I was like, oh, fuck. Let me see your hoodie. Let me see your hoodie that you went in to interview this employee. I'm noticing the stained hoodie is not like that. Oh, yeah, I have a stain on my right here.

I don't know what happened today. I don't know where it came from Is that I don't know. Did you try to did you is that mustard? I Might be coffee or something that's sulfur that happened to me when I I use the the edge of my hoodie to wipe off the dry Raceboard read reading no, I noticed that after I got out of the car this morning That okay, let's just assume the stain got there in some normal fashion Let's just you know that's not try to like CSI, the stain. I know what this is. How about this?

Why don't you wash it? Just between leaving the car and coming into my office? Oh, no. I mean, I think I've seen that stain on there before. No, you haven't. I watched this once a week. I think you're turning in the Charlie from all we saw. That's what I'm getting at.

I know what that stain is. That's the pollen from the trees in our neighborhood. And is it? Yeah. OK, it's got to be something. So you must have been on your car and you must have rushed it up against your car. That explains why my face is on fire right now. Yeah, that's exactly what I feel. I feel fine by the way. Oh, shit. But yeah, my allergies. I'm a great. It's one thing I get knocked a lot on the internet for the like in Awu and stuff people are like boy, it looks like Jeff hasn't taken a shower in a month.

I'm a very clean person. Yes, you are like Jeff hasn't taken a shower in a month. I'm a very clean person. Yes, you are. I take a shower every day of my life, sometimes twice a day. You're clean, but I think it's just a... Clean, but the shovel? Yeah, you're not grooming. Yeah, my clothes are always clean.

I just don't groom. Yeah, there's the whole process after you get clean of like becoming presentable. Getting cleansed is the important part. And as long as you get the important stuff down, everything else is just great. As long as you don't stink, what's it matter? Well, but yeah, okay. Yeah, but if you look like you stink and people only see you. But then we'll see the stink wavy line. So yeah, okay. Plus

Obviously you're way into it. You married me. No, I've done a problem. I'm just being argumentive. Okay. I'm also not my mic off. This is an earlier. Before we leave I have to tell the story about us. Tell it. Okay. Well, I'm just being argumentive. Well, okay. Oh, man. I don't like my mic off this stand here. Before we leave, I have to tell a story about us really. Tell it. Okay, well, I got to go on a ghost tour and Jeff wasn't able to go because we didn't have a sitter and there was actually an age limit on this one.

We couldn't bring Millie. Oh, wow. Scary or something? No, it mainly gruesome. And I'm kind of actually glad that they put it because when I went to Scotland, they didn't have an age limit and some of the stories in the Scottish...

Every story was about little kids getting murdered. Yeah, really. A very explicit gruesome stuff. And Millie, I mean, I'm not scared of like, I'm not worried about the ghost thing with her. I'm just mostly worried about her hearing about how people were murdered in great detail, you know? Anyways, I went in this ghost story.

And we first got there. Like, I met and ran into some kids from the site. The sky James, and then he had his girlfriend there. And she was saying that when she called to make the reservation, they promised her that there'd be no costumes, no people like jumping out at us or anything. And we get there and immediately

like we find our tour guide, he's got a cape on. And like a black friend of mine, he's just all in black. And then when we first started talking to her, she's like, well, I've got some costumes for you to wear. And he gave us all characters. And I played a guy named James that was supposed to be hanged. And then everyone had a character they had to portray. And we had to come up and do role playing.

It was awful. And so you had to walk around Australia at night with a new surround attack. Yeah, and this has never happened before on a ghost tour, but all of the other tours that were there for other things. And Sydney were pointing laughing and making fun of us. So people were like, there are all these docs there. And they're like,

woo! You paid $40 to get heckled for two hours. Yeah, no, it was like you got in a time machine and went back to high school. That's how the cool people were laughing at you. Yeah, having a guy in the cave is again. Having to do some improvisation, it's the worst. Oh, hey, we did something pretty cool in Sydney.

No, wait, I'd like to recommend. No, wait, but I don't like that. Oh, I'm sorry. Anyways, I had an experience. Okay. Okay, so there's this hospital there that then later like the property was used as the first jail in Sydney. And you can go to it like on the Scorsese, you might be able to do a regular tour during

the day. But we went in and like he was telling us a story about like people getting flogged and like they're the leg muscles muscles peeling off and then getting gangrene and dying or whatever. And I noticed when I started telling the story about the backs of my legs had been hurting and I just assumed it was from walking. And then I realized that I felt like somebody was sitting in my shoulders, I felt really, really heavy.

And then for half hour after that place and after I left I felt nauseous. But yeah, I don't know, it was weird. And then later in the tour, he was talking about, oh yeah, some people are really affected by this place and this is how they're affected and totally got affected by this. Maybe you were never drunk in New Orleans. Maybe you were just having an experience on that ghost. Maybe I was possessed.

Maybe all the dead beers were on your shoulder. So anyway, it was kind of interesting. And it was kind of a fun tour and you get to see like a Partisan and you didn't get to see like the old town and the rocks. I think you get the real-life high school Okay, and so the yeah the tour was goofy the guy was goofy, but they're like some cool places. Did you go on the haunted bobsled run? I don't know baby. They get that. They get that somewhere limps down there. I don't know what Maybe they get that, they get that, they get that somewhere, Limpix down there. I don't know what some Olympics are. Yeah, winter, summer Bob's letting. Summer Bob's letting.

Well, at the end of the tour, I don't know if I told you this, but the tour guy asked me for a drink. Yeah, you told me. How was it? I didn't go. I was like, actually, I'm gonna get back to my hotel. And I ran out. My non-cape, wearing husband.

That's one thing I do appreciate about you. I never tied, I don't express it enough, but I really don't worry. You don't worry, Kate. Thank you. I think I should go and say it. I'm thinking about the new uniforms. I feel like we lost Bernie. He looks like he's fallen asleep. He is born. No, I'm very happy that Griffin had an experience where she felt something and was, you know, a fun experience for her. And I'm doing everything in my power not to make fun of that. You know, believe in ghosts. Do I believe in ghosts?

Let me think about that. No, I'm not crazy. You never had any kind of weird experience you couldn't explain. Yes. Yeah, because I don't understand everything about the universe, but you know what I do understand? That there's no fucking ghost. I do completely understand that. Why didn't say sogost, but the place I affected me. You're like, sir. Right?

Yeah. But the course of the two hour walk. Yeah, that might have been the problem. I'm not walking, but the other stuff, I don't know, the nausea, I feel like Sony's pushing me down. You do realize that if they had like drown the people Right, if they that's what they'd done in this basement or whatever if they drown the people You would have said and I felt like someone was pushing me down by the shoulders to drown me and then somebody was grabbing at my ankles That's what you would have said so you had a feeling and you were associating it with what they were telling you

And I'm sorry. I tried to stay quiet. I'm over here Now she's looking at me like she's upset. I was perfectly fine to let the story go by. You realize it's what happened though, right? Maybe. Or maybe you you had feeling. So what is it that the people who died from having the legs flogged? Well, there were like a lot of people died

for a lot of reasons there. And like, because it was at later, it was a prison. OK. But what was it? I mean, what are you saying that? Well, that that was a lot of people were in the hospital because When they have recought stealing like flour or something they would get like whipped And then they'd be thrown into the prison because it would be like massively infected and then they'd like cut their legs off and they'd usually die in the process

You know, I get that but the feeling that you had they gave you that feeling to make you feel bad like what is what's going on here Why are you involved like you were empathizing with them? Well, I don't know. Maybe it was that I was here. Maybe it was power suggestion. No, I'm saying that I'm saying that with the what was your experience? Because you were saying you had an experience.

You just do the ghost transfer that? Is that what's taking place? I don't know. I was just standing there and then he had to he was talking about it. And I was like, oh, yeah, because my legs have been hurting my assumed it was walking. And maybe it was because we did go up hill.

But the feeling of pressure of being actually pushed down and the feeling of nausea I There were very real and I was sick for like a half an hour But what I'm saying what is that that in your mind is that the ghosts are trying to show you what it felt like? I don't know and it could also just be space Oh, it's an energy. I don't know and I don't know if I believe in the souls or anything But I do think that like I do believe in energies and I definitely believe that space can affect people,

like the space that they're in, and that doesn't have to be Ghost Related either. I totally agree with you on that. Jeff and I were crying in the Anne Frank House. Oh my God, dude. I wasn't it for long enough to cry there. I cried on the park bench outside. I cried on the park bench for 20 minutes.

You see, and she's looking at me like I'm an asshole. The ghost are making her legs hurt, and I'm the dick. I'm the dick. I'm the dick. That dick. I'm just gonna shut my mouth. I'm sure it was fun. And Cindy's awesome. And you should go there and see ghosts that want to hurt your legs. Did you guys get platypus? No. No, we tried to find them, but they didn't have them. Is there a nocturnal? Yeah, we went into the zoo and there was like the platypus area and the platypus area. Yeah, like, but I guess they're nocturnal. Oh, right. And they just weren't out. That sucks. It's not some qualas though. I didn't see any kangaroos either. It's not cool seal show. Yeah, the seal show is. Man,

what's the point of going to Australia? If you don't see a fucking kangaroo or platypus. Cause we saw koala. You must have seen kangaroos. They have the whole like Joey section. They missed that part. It's like multi leveled on this hill. And it's awesome, but it's easy to miss stuff I think and then be like I'm not walking all the way back up the hill so we can go hey look there's I can't grow Also, I'm really started to melt down. Yeah Yeah, because we were there like four I was walking up a hill must be so terrible after flying 5,000 miles Dude, it's a it's a pretty serious hill

She she she melted down in the birch. They've got like this wild birch where they have hocks, like due tricks and fly around in owls and stuff. They have sucker plates coming in. She doesn't understand the idea of an audience plant, kind of person, participatory plant, you know. So at some point they had this woman, like I need to volunteer from the audience, stand up and hold up a gold coin and this bird conflies and seals it and comes back.

And she got really upset because she really wanted to volunteer and she got started to cry. And it's like, no, no, no, no, that's not an audience member. And we couldn't explain to her that there's certain that those are actually, that's what doesn't really happen. Like, you don't get to volunteer from the audience to do those things. She still doesn't.

It didn't just so happen that someone had a gold of blue in their pocket. Right, and it was totally okay with this bird landing on her like, sleeped arm, and it was 90 degrees out or whatever. But the ghost thing is totally real Well, I hope that you enjoy your existence where you just died nothing ever happens. I didn't say that I didn't say that I can't wait to fucking hang on a basement and People coming in dressed like losers

He's got a whole group behind it. What's this? Oh, I I had to wear a new surround minute. That's even dangerous. Yeah. It wasn't even cool like that. It was like a new attach to like a dumb, like what do you call it? Like the things you put whistles on. Like a lanyard? Is that, no, like, you know,

it's like this is a straps you buy. Then you have like a clip on them and you buy for your badges that you like. Yeah, like badges. Oh, lanyard. Oh, is that what they're called? Yeah. Okay. Was it like, did it have like Ubisoft logo on it?

Sydney Olympics 2000. Oh, I guess. All right. Well, should we wrap this thing up? I guess. Yes, don't forget that we are going to be at Emerald City Comic Con this weekend. Jeff and Griffin will be signing at the Halo Waypoint booth,

or the 343 booth, on Saturday at what time is it going to it's either 12 or one we should probably find that out Yeah, it'll be all over the website and I'll put it make a journal and then packs the week after and then we'll be at packs The Saturday and we'll be showing some cool stuff from different productions. I hear it's really really cool It should be very fun. We're working on it for a while. Well, thanks for listening everyone. Thanks. Why? We're working on it for a while. Well, thanks for listening everyone. Thanks. Bye. Thanks.

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