Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #107

Episode Date: March 31, 2011

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proletariat metaphor. It's going for it. No, but I love it. I've watched, I've listened, I have that song on iTunes and actually I have my five year old listened to it almost nonstop. But isn't it almost indistinguishable from the other stuff that your kids see on the Disney Channel?

It seems like it's basically the same thing. That's what it's like confusing me about how popular it got so fast. The difference is I heard they spent $2,000 on the Rebecca Black music video. So it's about $1900 more than anything you see under Disney Channel. That's true.

Wow. Yeah. I think it's indistinguishable from like the Black Eyed Peas or something like that, which I also like. I'm like, listen to you. But yeah, I mean, I think the older you get, like you just sort of give up on cool. And if it just has a melodic whatever,

it doesn't really matter what it is. Yes, in your head. Definitely. I had a long discussion with my wife over whether or not it was parody just based on the fact that they put the one girl with braces in the back that's the girl that we're talking about. Yeah, does that make it like seem like more parody or or less. What is it more genuine? You know, I can't tell. For those of us who are not familiar, what is it a parody of? more genuine you know I can't tell for those of us are not familiar what is the parody of music of like how generic pop music I've had people have been doing that for years I mean I really have to split the line out it is like you don't know what's a parody and what's not right you know just in almost almost

anything that gets put out have you seen any of the other music videos that that guy made like I guess the guy who who made the Rebecca black black music factory. Right. They have they even have a song called Saturday. Well, someone else thinks it's like a different girl entirely. No, they don't. They have and and it's got like a series of videos and they're all equally awesome, equally terrible, awesome, awesome. But that girl that we're talking about, the girl who's in the back seat with the braces

She became an animated gift of course and people were just relentlessly making fun of her and so she did a video where she answered Questions about her appearance in the video and I think she's like 12 or 13 Yeah, and she handled that better than anyone. I've ever seen handled anything Well, she was just like she was like, you know I they told me to dance. And so I just tried a couple different things. And then they said, try to move your arms. And so I did that.

And I guess it looks stupid and people thought it was funny. But we were just having fun. You know, that's the best thing for watching. It's kind of neat. Well, that's the best thing to great thing about it is that there's no, you know, kind of like ego behind it. It almost seems like they're just having fun. Like they really are genuinely having fun. And I think that's what comes across. Because otherwise it does is kind of like ego behind it almost seems like they're just having fun like they really are genuinely having fun Mm-hmm

And I think that's what comes across because otherwise it does is kind of like I don't know what you say about the video It's like it's kind of they're just riding around the car and there's nothing much going on to it But the people in it actually seem like they think Friday is gonna be the day they're gonna party Well, I mean that's good Well, anything that you can turn gifts any any matter any subject matter You can turn to a guess is that's great. Yeah, I mean that you can't I think all music videos should be all gifts I I think we you know we make a lot of video for the internet. We need a lot of different content for the internet, but to me

animated gifts or J-Pays with the white text on them that is like the medium of the internet Yeah, I think would not have existed in any other form. Like, let's say, let's say you saw Lord of the Rings and you were like, no, that sucked. I'm not into that. That was terrible. But now you have those gifts and that justifies the whole movie. That justifies the entire budget. It's a sold animated gifts in a box set.

And I went to, you know, best buy and it was like the box set for Lord of the Rings and the animated gift box set for Lord of the Rings. I would have tough time making man. Does anybody get through the Lord of the Rings? I just like the funniest thing ever. You know, it was better than original story. I do. I do.

He said, he's just like, well, I hear that. J.R. Tolkien was originally going to animate gifts to tell his story, but the technology wasn't caught up at the time. Exactly. He needed William Gibson to come along. He meant the internet. We can make it. So we should probably introduce ourselves as we launch to write into a Rebecca Black column, essentially.

I'm Bernie Burns. I'm Gus Thorella, a.k.a. Rebecca Back Fan 02. And we have two guests with us today. Matt. I'm Matt Hollum, and I'm actually the secret author of Saturday. Oh, Matt. You know, the follow up to Friday. So. And I'm Jill Haman. I have no Rebecca Black author of Saturday. Oh, nice. You know, the follow-up to Friday. Big Friday, so thank you.

And I'm Jill Heyman. I have no Rebecca Black jokes left at this point, because of the end. And thank God for that. Thank God for that. And so guys, we had a big milestone today. Today, actually the day we're recording this, is the day that we put out the Red versus Blue season

nine trailer. Yes, for the public. For the public, right. Well, I guess we put it out over the course of the weekend And then we had that anger birds video that hit this weekend. That was pretty nuts, right? Yeah Yeah, a lot of people watching that was really cool I figured a lot of people would would latch on with but I feel like it was linked a lot more places than I expected and It really carried I I realized a

Calculation that we made in the release of these two videos though is that we released a spoof fake trailer for which we're just making fun of something and not going to have any more content related to well maybe an actual trailer. And it's definitely not clarified, which is which. Yeah, that's the bad. I think we're going to make an angry bird's move movie. I think so, or maybe it's not a spoof, maybe it actually just a straight-up movie with no parody intended they never know these days There's a lot of people think that you know I there's a component that we're back at black thing too That there must be part of it where even if it was a parody at what point does something have to reach a level of success Where people are confused if it's a parody so you're like well, maybe we just pretend it was a real

Yeah, why don't we that's what we meant exactly right. How many views does that thing have on YouTube? It's got to be over 50 million right? It's like 34 million less than a coldly cow. Was it really yeah? And when when did it come out like two or three weeks ago two or three weeks ago? Yeah, it might have been two weeks ago Million views. Mm-hmm. No, it seems like it's gonna be a badge of honor soon Wow is people taking screenshots of videos when they have low view counts to say I remember when. Yeah, I thought

this video would have three thousand views. Yeah. 61 million views. 61 million. Wow. Well, clearly what's wrong. By the way, we shouldn't even say how many views it has because they'll make this podcast out of date by the time. Oh, that's true. It says to be five million views. Yeah. 80 million views. My God, people. You believe in this? One million views.

That seems crazy. Let's just cut them all in. Oh, here's another link from the church over back in black. They just put this up. Now that she's her own religion, it has. I've never seen this before. It has one million dislikes. Brandon, have you it has one million dislikes Brandon have you ever seen one million dislikes on anything ever? I don't know that that's unbelievable amazing. The cool part is they actually show you the percentage of likes to dislikes

The red bar versus the green bar. I you can barely see the green bar there What is that green bar? It's like a hundred and thirty thousand likes or so versus a million dislikes a hundred and thirty thousand likes Yeah, I wonder what has the biggest ratio of dislikes on YouTube. Like what video has the most? You know, they track a lot of metrics on YouTube, right? Like most viewed video and they bring it down my category. Why don't they have most liked video and most dislike video or like percentage wise?

And what is that dislike video? So like someone letting a cat on fire or something, just like some horrible. I can tell you what it is. What is it? So if you go to the browse section on YouTube and you view historically the most viewed videos, there's stuff that ended up getting in there, like say for instance, what's the history of dance?

There's a video that got 120 million views early on in YouTube. But then there's a lot of stuff around it too that ended up in the list and because it's in that list, it continues to get tons and tons of views. But there's a whole section of them that are clearly when you look at them, the thumbnails look like something sexual, but they're not. But because they're in that list and so about like 80 million people have looked at this video of vocal cords, they think it's something else and not vocal cords. And so they click on it and watch it and then it's got a massive amount of dislikes

Nice, yeah, vocal so the formula is parasitic Parasitic there's a specific video you think there is that's one of the best one because I know 90 million Horns have clicked on it. I clicked on it out of anger Which I don't know I don't know if it's a better motivation for wanting to watch that video. I'm gonna try to find some of these some of these highest rated videos though. Yeah, look for the highest disrated. Oh, I see Charlie Sheen is on YouTube.

Not to Joy. It's amazing that we can have like a tsunami and nuclear meltdown, but Charlie Sheen is still in the news. Is that amazing? He won't go over that you would use for that? Well, maybe not amazing. Disvoining. Is he still going on?

Is he still like big in the news? I feel like I haven't seen him for a little while. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, news while I was gone. I was like yeah it is, it's a lot of stuff going. It's like yeah, it's like, I was expecting to say the nuclear reactor thing and the tsunami and, you know, Libby and all that. And he's like, this Charlie Sheen thing with the blood and the Rebecca Black video. It's like so much going on these days. Like, yeah also the tsunami and all that actual news too.

Yeah, Midi's done red. But there's kind of like a nuclear reactor. Yeah, there's kind of like this, like it doesn't matter like what the news story is Yeah, mid east on red, but there's kind of like a real reactor. Yeah, there's kind of like this Like it doesn't matter like what the news story is now, you know like the The tsunami from a couple of years ago that killed 250,000. Yeah, I thought that would be like the biggest news story of all time Like forever because that looks such a massive event. Yeah, and now people have kind of just like oh Yeah, I'm a kind of move that happened really not really like you know it's not as cemented into yeah that's cemented in yeah maybe because it happens in four places that we don't really maybe think about all the time okay that has 92 million views

I love the court that's the casting that looks terrible that thumbnail is pretty disgusting but also there's one I it's called an experiment I think is the name of the video and it's basically the thumbnail is a woman in a normal apartment bathroom and she looks like she's pulling up her dress and it has 137 million views and it's got a massive amount of dislikes because it's just her doing a Mentos and Diet Coke thing in her bathroom but the thumbnail is so misleading. I'm very self-conscious on this video podcast. People said I had too creepy of a smile looking at everyone. Last time, so I'm trying to be very neutral or frowning.

You're here. I'm going to do this. You cut your hair. Yes. I cut my hair. I liked your hair from the Angry Birds video. I didn't cut my hair because of the Angry Birds video. Actually, we shot a little bit.

One of the scenes I was in, we shot before packs. I was already like, I need to cut my hair, but I didn't get to shoot my other stuff until after packs so it had really gotten terrible I think I got in a haircut in about seven months and the like the day after we did my pickup. You had a haircut in seven months? Yeah I went and got a cut. But I mean it wasn't that long. It just like I had a cut like that's before and then in seven months it's like it's like a chiapet. Yeah. You just had to put your sport beer on it and just smear that paste. It's a lot of stuff in there, it's dense. That's crazy.

Your hair is probably like mine where it reaches a certain length and then it just adds density. It's like a supernova. I get the... You had to wore it. Yeah, I've noticed this weird thing. When you haven't got a cut, you just do the finger thing and you go like like that and just like thing like releases like a quick release. It's like it's amazing Yeah, I can I have a light dudes afro I can really I can really comb it out to where I get like a nice big puff That's sweet. It don't see really not there. You just what the hell

Effro's a cool again, right? Like they've kind of come back. We come back. No if we know about it They're probably beyond that point. I think it this We know about it. It's not back. No, if we know about it, they're probably beyond that point. I think of this stage. I think it's past. We know about it. It's not cool. Is that how we define it? Yeah, I'm so excited. Yes, I've heard of it not cool anymore.

Let's watch Rebecca's Blacks count now that we brought it up and see if it's just like tanks. Sorry, Rebecca Black, we ruined it for you. Well, she did very cool for being so hated. I mean, so many people contributed views and notoriety to her for basically disliking her. And then they're frustrated by the fact that people are watching this video that they're telling them is terrible,

but everybody wants to see this quote unquote terrible thing. I don't know if hated is a strong enough word. Like, it's amazing. Like, there were people were telling her to cut herself. Yeah, it's amazing what people will tell an anonymous 13-year-old, or when people are anonymous, what they'll tell a 13-year-old on the internet. They're right. They're telling some fucking, there's all what people will tell an anonymous 13 year old or when people are anonymous What they'll tell a 13 year old on the internet?

Yeah, right. They tell them some fucking there's all some terrible things. Oh, we you better cut it out because that can be back traced You done who you got arrested I heard about that the Jesse slaughters that got arrested for child abuse. Do you guys know this? I didn't know he's talking about no you guys don't consume as much internet content as we do But there was a girl who was just one of these webcast girls where she would get on and chat. Oh okay. And then other people started berating her. And then her dad came to her rescue and was defending her honor and made this diatribe directly into the webcam talking to Fortchan and how he was gonna technologically defeat them. He reported them to the cyber police and they're gonna backtrace it and they essentially just brutalized them

You know, and then he brutalized his daughter. No arrested last month That what's that's that's terrible and all sorts of what? That's bad and everywhere anyone know about that. Well, how old was she? She was probably 13 right like 13 Yeah, the problem that a lot of people don't realize because you can't tell when you look at it But she's 13 like who would make fun of a thirteen year old kid and some other thirteen year old kids and they just have these enormous resources now to do that kind of stuff. Yeah. And they don't have any checks and balances in place yet. Yeah, there's like some story that broke in the news about like a list of people who are like

having sex or whatever blah blah blah in high school and it's like this big. Oh, that's a big thing. You should not list or this. Yeah, I have to wonder if the kids in the high school really don't care Maybe as much as the parents and those think that they care I don't know because I remember when I was in high school and all the fuss is it we're making about stuff We didn't care I put that list out about myself. Yeah, when I was in high school. Yeah, didn't work I think we've talked about that before where like people just have a different expectation of privacy now Like with the internet and Facebook and constantly telling people where you are, what you're doing, but people don't have as much privacy almost.

Like you're just willing to put in for a minute. Not all shows. I mean, it's almost like it doesn't exist at this point. And people just knowingly give it away, happily give it away. Do you know about this app that just came out that's like supposed to aggregate everybody's information and like show you pictures of where they are. In almost real time. No, it's got it's called color Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that is I'm hearing about it. I don't know what it is. It's kind of scary. It's basically like a Snooping you know kind of thing like spying on people app as far as I can tell there's this website I heard about several months ago that I'd be keep on being open to podcasts if for some reason I always forget I

I'm not sure if it was a joke or if it was real, but these couple of guys in San Francisco made a website called WhereTheLadies.at. And all it does is it aggregates like four square to find the four square in Facebook to find the highest concentration of single female check-ins near you. So you know where the high... So you know where the high... So we didn't create that title. I found babes.

Was it the iPhone babes? I found babes. I found babes. I found babes. I found babes. I found babes. I found babes. that's what I'm sure someone's working on their service. Yeah, I'm here. Where the ladies dot at. Yeah, and you can see like how many women are checked in into areas around I think it just works in a small area in San Francisco. Nine ladies have checked in within the last hour at the Kabuki Sundance cinemas. So, okay, that's where the ladies at at I would not have guessed that I would not have seen useful we uh we're also talking about this I think with Rocco at PAX East what and I said that we

need an app where you can take a picture of someone and then it'll scan like Facebook and all the social networks and tell you that person's name and whether or not they're available if they're single or in a relationship. Okay, so let me get this straight. Let me get this straight. So you think it would be easier to walk up to a person you don't know and say, I want to take a picture of your face, clear lighting, as opposed to just striking up a conversation and asking them their name and whether or not they're available.

Do you not know me? Did you go up to the person say I want to take the picture from a distance. You don't want to go up and go up and you can strap them under the eye. And you can have a plug-in that removes the leaves and leaves and sticks from the front of the frame where you're hiding. It's perfect. I think you're more curtains. It's also important. It was enhancing for when you take the photo blurry like this Or through a window pane there would also have to be an option for the upskirt. Oh

Here Lord I'm just saying the technology is the technology is gonna be there you took this to a dark place and That's all I want to say. I'm on board early. That's all I'm saying now someone I'm ready What is a chance is something's not gonna make that because a couple of weeks ago That's all I'm saying. Now someone, I'm ready. What is the chance of somebody not going to make that? Because a couple of weeks ago, we had a discussion about gaming controls, like the Connect and all that.

And then we were talking about how it would be really cool if in the future they had games that could track your eyes. So then when you looked around about my mic, but when you looked around, the game would try to see where you're looking to the television and move the screen to match that. And we said, at the time we said, you know what? People will probably come back to this podcast

and it will sound so dated this conversation we had about this theoretical stuff. The next week, somebody unveiled something along those lines where it does eye tracking and they want to implement it in games. That happened like a month ago to me where it was like, oh, wouldn't be cool if they had this. And where it was like, oh, I have this on my phone.

It was the thing where you translate a language. And it's like, in the past, you think, wouldn't be cool if they had this and it was like, oh, I have this on my phone. It was the thing where you translate a language. And it's like, in the past, you think wouldn't be cool if they had this. Now it's like, well, I'd make sure to check the app. Check your app. I probably already did. But Bernie found that app a couple of months ago, and I downloaded it, and someone was asking about it.

It was either Marshall Carrier Chris, and they were using it. And they were getting frustrated because it wasn't translating the numbers to Spanish. They had it over just like numerical values, one, two, three, and four. They're like, it's not translating to Spanish. It's like, yeah, no. He's talking about that app that you could like,

use your iPhone camera and it would change languages. And I guess it's called World View. They're leaving the numbers as numbers. Because numbers are numbers. Numbers are numbers. They're not Spanish, Spanish, or English numbers. It's like, why isn't translating Bean Burrito into Spanish for me?

It only translates to Bean and not the Burrito. Have you seen that video where someone implemented head tracking using a Connect sensor to make 3D on a television? I'm going to save you some time. If you're going to ask me if I've seen a video on the internet, the answer is always going to be yes. I have probably seen it. Yeah, I've seen that. Have you seen the one where the guy did the Wii and Reverse? Yeah, I didn't even think about that. Yeah. That guy actually, the guy who did the Wii and Reverse worked on Connect for Microsoft. He left Microsoft to go waste ago to go work for Google. Really? That guy's a nice trajectory. YouTube video to connect the launch team to now Google. Yeah, we've got to take a quick break.

So that we can show one of our drum tank animated adventures. All right, so check this out and we'll be right back. I love these things. I Got to see New Orleans in a way. I've never seen it before which is sober because I was responsible for keeping Griffin alive I don't know if you know this about my wife But if you're in a new town we have to go to the ghost tour for that town We go on the first half of the ghost tour and come back and there's like a 20-minute break where you get some more drinks and Griffin drinks like two huge drinks then she gets weird She goes to the bathroom and she comes out like just wobbling she looks like a fucking pinball she's got this stupid grin on her face she goes

I lost my purse and I go did you have it with you and she goes mm-hmm did you lose it in the bathroom mm-hmm and I go we'll go back in the bathroom and get it and so she goes back in the bathroom comes out and she goes I lost my purse and I go was it not in the bathroom and she goes hmm I was like why are you so fucking happy you lost your goddamn purse I have to now backtrack see if she sat down and left it somewhere while we're on the tour and so I'm like what do I do with Griffin? because I realize at this point she's gone so I just stick her with the tour people and I'm like just stay with them whatever you do and I run around New Orleans backtracking trying to find her purse I can't find it anywhere I go back I find Griffin kind of like plotting behind them like not able to keep up and just bumping in this shit

I go well fuck and I can I also think that the tour is trying to get away from her I'm driven just walking into mailboxes and stuff going hmm And uh and so I go and I grab her I'm like I gotta get you back to the hotel So I really have to like walk her to the hotel and she's just like bumping into me And then she like bump into somebody and be like whoo and so I get you back to the hotel So I literally have to like walk her to the hotel and she's just like bumping into me and then she like bump into somebody and be like Woo, and so I finally get her to the hotel She's really wobbly at this point so I stand her against the wall and I'm fishing the key out and while I'm doing that

She just laid down the wall and slammed her head into the ground Oh man and then I look at her and she's covered in blood She's like ripped her chin up and she just starts crying So then I get her in the I get her into the hotel room And she like runs into the bathroom and just starts throwing up everywhere We're back You know, hey, we're all taking a once. Yeah, we're all real ready. We're ready to go anime adventures are awesome They almost make you want to like and get involved in something that you shouldn't just so you can have an awesome animated adventure You know, we're actually at our during our next break. We're gonna debut a new animated adventure that has not been put on the internet before

So it wasn't that it wasn't this one we just saw wasn't that this is part one of If you go to New Orleans our next one will be part two I'm torn because animated ventures are awesome and wanting to do crazy wacky stuff to get an animated adventures Awesome, but the podcast makes me nervous because and now we're videotaping it so it makes it even better but it's like I know I've said crap in the past where it's like god damn it why the fuck the fuck it's just like I feel like I have to censor myself so much that I can't even get involved and like have to stuff I want you'll look at it this way even if you weren't on the podcast you would recount what you said no no in the office you wouldn't you wouldn't you wouldn't you don't do nearly as much damage would recount what you said. No, no, in the office. You wouldn't do it.

You wouldn't do it. You don't do nearly as much damage as I can do. At least you're here to defend yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of all the offended, all defend the stock prices. Oh, yeah. Well, you had a momentary day of weakness, I think when you were like,

get out by goals. I was right. I was right. So the day we had the meeting, we had the lunch, you were there. You were there. And I don't think you were there. But I was in prison. I think right. So the day we had the meeting, we had the lunch, you were there and you were there. And I don't think you were there. But I was in, I think this in commodities, DIY, DIY is up 33% since that day. And so, as of these up, like 25%, as a 25%, no one was what you're talking about. Like three. Like, do you understand? If you go back, if you go back,

no, check the old podcast, podcast check the podcast for two years We don't know what that's a rangers so the rangers are gonna be in the world series everything You can't stop me Joey whatever being embarrassed about being in the podcast I'm always right and I'm mission on the right. It's embarrassing to be right all the time Joel has seen through the matrix. It's like it's all painfully apparent now If you look at the socks things that I've mentioned three months ago, those are about 33%. But once I mentioned six to seven months ago, those are like 15. So why are you on there 100?

So why do you still work here? No. So there's no more money. I need more principles. So what you're telling people watching the podcast need to listen to your financial advice and just fucking hop on it right now. I mean, it sends 10% back to you. We need one of those disclaimers now.

Look, this is not a sound financial advice show or whatever they put on, you know, you cannot rate this with the SEC or something. It's like, do not trust Joel. So basically, if anybody loses their shirt in the stock market after this, it's on Joel. What I'm thinking, if you've ever wanted your own personal private caboose,

just wait till the day the stock market crashes and stand outside our second floor windows like this because Joel will be the guy on the ledge over there. be there. I saw a video called it's called that end of America end of America One something like that Final fantasy part 40 let's say it's more like Rocky. Rocky loses in the first movie and then you have to retrain and come back. So long as he's one of the end of America documentaries, whatever, that should now be a genre of filmmaking. I am making America Empires over film.

And I just go, let's be a searchable category on Netflix, because there's a billion of those goddamn things. It happens like this. Like, like the US no longer is a reserve currency. Second zombies. You know, that's how it happens. I'm glad we brought up the reserve currency talk, because I was talking to Jeff about this the other day. Like, do you think that rappers like Jay Z,

for example, lost a lot of money when they converted all their bling from dollars to euros and then the euro crash. Why would anyone like any time anyone talks about the dollar going down like oh I should be in the euro. No, don't be in the euro. Don't be in the dollar or the euro. The euro is bad, the dollar is bad.

What do you do to be in jol? I mean, you know, be in Australian dollars or Canadian dollars or at this point, forget Chinese currency. I read the one. I read the one. I read the one. I read the one. I'm going in currency actually was like the highest performance currency of last year. It was the Mongolian unit of currency, which I don't think

about. All you can buy is this giant anvil. That's funny because like what happened was you see people on America bought homes that they couldn't afford and now the Middle East is revolting. That's basically what happened was you see people on America bought homes that they couldn't afford and then now the Middle East is revolting that's basically what happened so what do we do we stop him or do we just let him go on you gotta keep beating him talk about Mongolia some more I hear the king of siam is invented an onion you know it's awesome seashells traditionally put your money in seashells all going bad beads I'm heavily I'm heavily leveraged into magic beams right now I don't know about you it's the commodity of the future I'm hoping to like buy all of

Manhattan I just drafted you with this is not what I was talking about you would I do put bed bugs in Manhattan and lower all the property values to the point where I have a bed bug cure okay that should be an animated story. What me planning bed bugs? The bed bug story. Okay, explain this to me. Okay. Why would I buy gold?

Like, I get it. I get it in medieval times. People had gold and they bought gold. Batchable physical gold. Like gold, like gold coins. You know? Okay. People always talk about crazy people like you

talk about how paper money has no value, right? That it's just when we went off when we went off the gold standard, that's correct. Okay, tell me why is gold valuable? You tell me the answer to your question is, as the dollar has been going lower and lower, lower, gold has been going higher and higher and higher. That is your answer to the dollar but you're not even sure why is gold valuable because as we talk about this podcast it's now trading at a thousand three hundred and like a year ago it was like it was like nine hundred that's why like people when the world goes to shit would you trade gold for here's like I think I don't understand about this When the world goes to shit, would you trade gold for

Reception in dollar right because it's just it's a piece of paper and it's just we assign value to it But it's just a piece of paper listen and gold when you buy gold on the stock market or the commodities market You're not actually buying physical gold. Let's say you're buying physical gold But you're just buying like you're just contracts. You just drag a contract. That's just depends on how you buy No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no It does not have a specific value. The answer is what you guys keep asking this question, keep asking this question. Why? Why? Why? Well, the free market said so. That's why. That's the answer. But the free market are those of you who do look at the free dollars anymore, whatever you're saying. No, the free market is telling you to not believe in dollars. That's what I'm saying. That's the answer. It's a year from now. They're just saying not to believe in gold by

lithium. They're not going to say that. believe in gold by a lithium. They're not gonna say that. Why do you know that? I'm just telling you. They might, that's how it is. I mean, I guess gold could go down, but it's certainly not gonna like, it's not gonna roll over. It's not gonna be like worthless or anything.

It could go down? I don't even believe in you said it. Oh no, it's going down. It's going down, oh no, so gold, so. What do you understand our point that we're trying to make here? I understand your point. understands your point right telling you You're but let me say it's historically in the early to mid 80s didn't go like skyrocket eight or nine hundred dollars

Announce and then fucking correct back down it absolutely did yeah to the dollar right right right and then it's right to the dollar now It hasn't gone that high if you value dollar to gold. I think what we're getting at is some of us are patriotic and some of us are you I'm just looking for a nice, you know, I want my Australian girl at this point When we start talking I'm gonna change the subject for your sake, Joe. All right, when we started talking about the animated adventures I remember it's something that Jeff brought up in a podcast once. He said that one night he was flipping through the challenge or something and he saw the Ricky Dervais show on HBO. That is essentially 30 minutes of drunk tank animated adventures both Ricky Dervais and Steven

Merchant. It is. And more important. Karl Pilkington. And I don't know if I've ever laughed so hard at something I've seen on TV as I have when I was watching that show. Karl Pilkington talking about his movie pitch idea. When he sat down with a couple of movie executives and just started throwing movie ideas at him. as I have when a while watching that show. Carl Pilkington talking about his movie pitch idea

with the one he sat down with a couple of movie executives and just started throwing movie ideas at him. It was one of the funniest things I think I've ever seen. I want to see. He didn't even know, like he kept talking about how he wanted Clive Warren in his movie. No, like, Clive Warren, who the hell is that? He's like, you know, from Closer.

I mean, Clive Owen is like, oh yeah, that guy. It's like, did the movie be where we were talking to even bad and I when you were naming someone who doesn't exist. It's a long gone animated adventure of us talking about someone else's animated adventure. It's gonna be a thing inside of a thing. It's gonna be great. But I gotta say we were putting out the Angry Birds trailer this weekend. And we have this thing that we do where if there's even a little bit of a twist in a short or in an episode When we put it up on our site we hide the twist when we put it up on YouTube We just call it Angry Birds fake trailer. Yeah, you know, but on our side

We want to preserve the experience as much as possible for our fans and that's what I think yeah, but not on YouTube But I'm because it's on our side on our side on our side On YouTube Yeah, because we know the people on Hershey dot com will actually just watch it and yeah, have haven't had the full experience. Yeah. So we were trying to think of a name for the Angry Birds trailer and we were kicking out ideas like based around warfare and all this stuff and Marshall, who is kind of the genius behind the whole Angry Birds trailer, he came up with a great title which was Fight or Flight. Which is a

great name for Warfare Angry Birds trailer. So Brandon gets it all set up, he puts it in there and I look at the entry. It's fighter flight is what you wrote like like a airplane You don't understand how those two things sound alike fight or fight it's a fight or flight It's a thing you find our flight is a thing fighter flight is not it was five a.m. It was it was five a.m It was five a.m. 23 years in your life though. Here's the However, how old are you 25 that's shameful? I said to him. It's no it wasn't fight or flight Brandon. It's fight or flight and what was your response to that at 5 a.m. I don't remember it was 5 a.m. You said what's that I've never heard that before I've never heard that expression so what science did you take in high school or college? How did you just take like geology or that's it?

Like they showed you a picture of rocks and said, this is a solid and that was it that your total science education. No, I remember. The term fight or flight? No, I took physics. I took physics in high school and in college. Do you think fight or flight is a physics term?

I have no idea what it is. I have no idea what it is. If I say the term survival of the fittest, do you know what that means? Yes, I do. Okay. So fight or flight is the mechanism by which something either fights or runs away. Exactly. Please. So that's what it is. Not like insects that drink your blood. I understand the concept. I've never heard the phrase. Am I crazy? This is a common phrase, right? Very common phrase.

Was it coined in the 20s like that? Other phrase that was so common a couple of weeks ago on the podcast? No, no, no, no. Hey, you take it easy back there. It's a weird thing. It's weird. I don't know. I think it's a people who are younger than us have different knowledge, I guess. Strange. Yeah. Everyone on the internet. They put all their knowledge into their Facebook stream

So everyone can read it. Yeah, so this week I guess you mentioned that RTX tickets are going on sale. Oh cool Friday. Yeah, which is also our anniversary Which also our eight year anniversary. I'm so I'm so pissed right now I can't even tell you because while I'm sitting here people are aiming me because we put the RVB season nine trailer online Yeah, someone we work with and she will remain, remain nameless on a regular basis. I kind of narrows it down. She asked me from her job outside the company where she was in her lines to play sister.

She made me, she made me it said, so the season nine trailer, it's, it's, it's, it's coming up on April 1st. Are, are you guys, this is Joker? Is this real? And I'm like, I don't want to fucking strangle you. One of the dumbest things that we ever did as a company is start our company on April 1st are you guys? This is joke or is this real? And I'm like, I don't want to fucking strangle you. One of the dumbest things that we ever did as a company is starter company on April 1st. Because every time we make any announcement, really?

We're not even a week away. I mean, we're not even close to April 1st. And they think it's a joke. What do we do? Hallum, what do we do? We dissolve the company and start over. Well, we just sell it. I like to wait.

We just sell everybody. It's a parody unless they really like it. And they're not a parody. It's those who are only committed. We're a parody. We just tell everybody it's a parody unless they really like it and then yeah, what a parody those who are only committed. We're a pair. We're paired. We're going over the top. We're parodying April 1st. Everyone thinks the April 1st is for jokes, but we're making a parody. And then later of April 1st by not putting out jokes and being a joke. This is really nice. Later we can be like, oh, we're gonna have another big event on April 1st and we're only

charging $300 a ticket and then we don't have to put it on. There you go. There you go. There you go. It's a joke they knew. RTX presented by Rebecca Black. There you go. We got a finger. Come on. I would have even though we think we're selling tickets to a fake event now that we're selling the tickets on April 1st. I did not think about that until right now. Well that's okay because we have more demand than what we have tickets available. So if we're really bad at running the event, we can just be like, Oh, it was a joke. We were really holding a bet. But you're welcome to hang out.

Did you know? Just on you. Fuck. So we just hang out whatever you know, Google announced Gmail on April 1st. And everyone thought it was a joke because they said they could offer a gig by the storage everyone in their email. And then like the next day, they were like, they have the weird. Every year they do something, right?

Yeah. Like the deal with the toilet or whatever that was. I'm waiting to deal do something, right? Like the deal with the toilet or whatever that was? Wait, the deal with the toilet? Yeah, the deal with the toilet, where the, put your gold in your toilet, is that? Saves you down. Saves you down.

Saves you down. So, let me ask you this, what is Google Storage up to now? Do you know, that's like seven gigs in account or so? Seven gigs in account. You can see it down. You can see it down like the Gmail homepage.

You see like there's a number that's constantly increasing. And then just what, it's just some dude like shoving, you see like there's a number that's not really increasing and they just were the system dude like Down somebody calls it yeah, yeah, what are you doing after our civilization dies and aliens come like the only record of our Civilizations we like inboxes like emails. Yeah, Everyone's gonna have like seven gigs of just like spam. I wonder if anyone's ever kilos of gold. If anyone's ever filled their Gmail quota. If someone's like filled it up and they're like, I can't get any more email. I can get a Gmail account.

I think somebody did it on purpose. Really? Yeah, I think I saw it somewhere. Somebody filled up their Gmail account. And they were having to keep up with it because it kept increasing. You know, I just like a backup of my email. There's how much I, I did a good amount, right? And I knowhmm. There's how much should I I do good amount right and I know people Is this coming to have more than I do? I don't remember how much you have but yeah, you had a lot you

You got how much like you probably got twice as much as what I have you probably have seven time how much you have any idea I think I can tell you for our for our entire company. Yeah, everyone that has a mailbox. We use about keep drinking 25 gigs of space 25 gigs of space reach person. No, you're already right bad Well, don't you've been in this for 30 minutes man I'm trying to see this story here where a guy filled his Gmail account in 24 hours and this was April 17th 2006 I was bored so I decided I could fill my 2.7 gigabytes of storage in my Gmail account He did it in 27 so in five years. I sent myself my 2.7 gigabytes of storage in my Gmail account. He did it in 27. So in five years.

I sent myself a 2Gig attachment, done. It's in five years I've gone from 2.7 gigs to about seven. For everybody, though, you think about how many people have Gmail accounts? Yeah. Do you have a Gmail account? Yeah. I, one of the things I don't like, we talked about the privacy thing earlier, I hate when I find out that I've accidentally logged into my Gmail account when I'm searching on Google

I hate that because I just have I don't have any illusion that that's not all being logged with my username all my I was searching for giant elephant cock last night and I realized I was signed in I was like, oh god damn it So because you want to keep that private like say it on camera. She'll be honest with me How was the lighting on me in that photo was a good Because I've gotten mixed reactions Zing All right, uh, what else you want to talk about should we should israel anything else about RTX before I We trouble over. Yeah, yeah, what's happening? We're gonna cut real fast to

Our new drunk tank animated adventure new strong and as and As we come back we'll have RTX details so check this out We'll bring back this is part two of the New Orleans trip. Yes, it is All right And she like runs into the bathroom and just starts throwing up everywhere So I'm like are you do you need any help? She's like I'm maybe alone. I want to be alone You know, I'm like okay fun and I just started watching TV and hanging out and then like every 10 minutes I go back in and check on her and I'd be, everything okay.

Can I get you anything? And she'd be like, oh, he's on the door. And I'm like, okay, eventually I fall asleep, you know, and I dosed off and I wake up and I go into the bathroom. And she's on the ground, face first on the ground, and there's vomit everywhere. It's in her hair, it's on the floor, it's on the wall. I've been drinking it.

Herocains, which are those like obnoxiously red drinks. Yeah, so her vomit was like radio active It was like bright fucking red puke and she did nothing but eat oysters the entire time We want seafood. Oh, I cleaned up right red oyster puke. Oh, man. I want to throw up I Have to like fight her to get her out of her clothes and get her in the shower This is like a typical night for you. Yes, you're more shower Yeah, and she just laying naked on the floor of the bathtub She gonna die what the fuck and so I'm like can I get you anything do you need anything? I just want to be in the bathroom and I'm like okay, so she just sat in the shower and then eventually

She just comes into the bed just laughing her ass off She's like did I throw up everywhere and And I'm like, yeah, and also that bed bug story. We should talk about... So tickets are going on sale. It's our first ever fan event, which is going to be May 27th to 29th. Tickets are going on sale, just Friday. Here in Opholitexus. Yes.

What's happening at this event? It's our first annual, because I know that Gus likes the term. Things that are first annual. It's our first annual. I didn't know that. Because things that are first annual It's our first because the first annual is not a thing because it's not annual You can't be something part one right right like if you call something that at that part one you can't be annual and first ever well if there's no year That is transpired you could call an annual and no you couldn't call an annual event if it hasn't happened yet An an no you couldn't call it anyone if it hasn't happened yet, right does it also bother you when new couples celebrate their one-month anniversary That's not a thing. That's not a thing like oh, it's our six-month anniversary. That's bullshit That's so fucking angry. I hate that have you never celebrated your

So anniversary with your life that's bullshit. Hey, you know you did this thing for a while Which got to be kind of annoying where you guys were gonna do? Hey, you know, you did this thing for a while which got to be kind of annoying where you guys were gonna do Every year on your anniversary guys weren't there remarried I do some big grand thing that we all had to come to as I have to go to but we were asked to go What does that matter? You asked me to go to places. I don't know. I don't give any illusion that I'm going no shit Or you go. Yeah, I'll go and then It makes that sound too, which is kind of weird just as before I disappear. I become like a ghost

He's busy taking I don't know about the goal getting remarried once a year thing But like in general we are really bad about celebrating stuff Wouldn't you say we're good at talking about it? Well, we talk about it, but then it's kind of like we never actually do anything. It seems like like Brandon bought that champagne for when we finished season eight, right? Was that the original reason for buying the champagne? No, it's when we closed on the building. This building that we're in, it's when we close the

before season eight ended. That was like in in March or April, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then it was so we didn't celebrate that then we're like I will celebrate season eight. We didn't celebrate that And we're like, oh, we put up we finished the DVDs. We'll celebrate that. We didn't celebrate that We did drink the champagne. We did the champagne was putting the tiles up on the backsplank We eventually Oh wow the new toilet paper came in from Amazon.com Prime shipping. Let's celebrate that. Yeah, so Big soul race set a sum up so far in the segment is we're really bad at celebrating

Please buy tickets to our celebratory event exactly You're doing the hard sell exactly. We're not good at it So you have to come and help us figure out how to do it drive all the way from Kansas and come please celebrate with us brain champagne So what are we doing? Have we gone over the actual I heard we're putting up a back splash right? We're giving a preliminary itinerary. We're still fleshing out all the details but we're now roughly we're gonna have a mixer, dinner, slash, drinking, Friday night, okay, the local arcade, uh, it's pretty no expense. Uh, we're gonna have uh... screenings of the draft house

i don't know where you found an arcade i will not go to the arcade and let's ask pinball machines no there's tons of the name of the arcade is pinballs and really just with a z uh... it seems like that's the backup location for a scene in big old basketball they didn't get to shoot

pinballs it just sounds like something that been in that movie what's the name of the fake porn that the Vesky hallucinates uh... uh... good or balls good or balls nice man wow

I don't know how you remember that do we think it's a pinball scene over again it's an apostrophe c which makes no sense i don't know how you're gonna be think of something which is totally dead at that point you should sell it in bike we're gonna have screenings at the draft house along with Game playing on the big screen where you mean screening

Well to be to be announced to be announced. We're gonna have tours of the studio. You're moving a bit of a party and What was I oh yes studio tour and party and we're also gonna let everyone take part in a research Production on Sunday. All right, that'll be awesome You know what I tried to convince Griffin to do for the kind of barbecue tour thing at our office that day? I tried to convince her in the parking lot to set up a real life angry birds set, like immersion kind of where we can like launch the big like fans, like launch fans

onto the bowling balls that are painted. We want to get do we have insurance for the bowling balls on a catapult or a tribus shape? That's pretty awesome actually because we've noticed that potentially We know stuff comes over our side of the fence from our neighbors, so maybe we should send something back Yo Griffin Griffin gave me this response. I'm very busy So apparently she's too busy for that idea. So there will be no angry birds at the RTX. I think Griffin quickly figured out there's so much stuff going on here that if you just say you're very busy with something no one else has time to check up and see if

you're very busy. So it's just assumed oh yes she's totally busy. She couldn't possibly do that. She's probably just described God's as full of four here. That's why I'm not saying anything. That's not going to be quite not. He's usually nodding at a green. I do know it's trying to just get a response because he's so busy thinking about what he thinks he has to do. He's like, oh. Every time Gus goes out of town, stuff breaks.

Have you ever noticed that? Major stuff in the company breaks. Text stuff. I'm getting, it's suspect. It's all tell you. It's such a fact. That's how hard I'm working when I'm here. I'm constantly making sure that stuff doesn't break so the second I leave your breaks That's not any better if you're like holding everything together like putting your finger in the

Diak essentially and then when you leave it all far he's basically not like the guy in loss that had the type of code in Once an hour and just press the thing I don't know. We were on a trip. We were on the trip recently and like I noticed every two hours like I have to get in my laptop. You want to talk a little bit about our VB season 9? Yeah. How does that sound? Yeah. Okay, so we put up the trailer and this is the one that we showed at PAX. And slight modifications. Yeah, there's a couple modifications and if you're really interested you could probably go out and find on YouTube, somebody who shaky cam it. And actually the whole panel is available on Yeah, there's a couple of modifications and if you're really interested you could probably go out and find on YouTube

Somebody who shaky cam it and actually the whole panel is available on Waypoint Halo Waypoint It's the whole panel minus the trailer though, right? It is the whole panel minus the trailer Yeah, and actually they didn't put the immersion video that we showed it back either We'll be putting that up later this week for sponsors, but Yeah, essentially we showed the trailer for our BBC's 9 is about three and a half minutes I think I'll said and done. It's mostly animation by Monty and then some machinima shots, but I think a handful, like maybe it's two. Exactly.

You know, machinima shots and the whole thing. Yeah. And I think the biggest question we keep getting is are the guys from Blood Gulch, you know, the normal band of idiots going to be in it. And they are in those machinima shots in there. So I pretty much say what I said at the PAX panel, which is this season is going to be in it. And they are in those machinima shots in there. So I pretty much say what I said at the PAX panel, which is this season is going to be a little bit different than the other seasons of Red versus Blue. We've never had a presentation quite like this, but it's going to be a mixture of in-game and CGI, but not the same kind of mixture that we did last year for Revelation. It'll be something totally new. Totally new. Because we spent a lot of time on season eight trying to figure out how to make the CG stuff match

the in-game stuff, because we went from shot to shot and then back to in-game after we showed a CG shot. So, I mean, we spent, I would say a lot of time. Yeah, I would say the majority of our time, but definitely imposed it was a ton of time doing that. Yeah. And we can spend our time better. we're just going to spend that time making it look super cool right because we don't have quite the same burden that we had last season of like doesn't have to match shot to shot so precisely and so we can just do it we can do a couple extra

things that you know sin you know cinema wise that you know make the shots look really cool so we're excited about that. Yeah I shouldn't when you look at how you're spending your time technically. It's always better. It does. Yeah, yeah Yeah, it's been artistically as opposed to minutia. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we're maintenance So we're really excited about it. It's gonna run this summer is when rbbc's not gonna be out I mean, we're tentatively looking at releasing it at the end of May the first three episodes What great timing that we could show episodes at RTX in Austin.

That would be cool. In between bouts of not being able to celebrate properly. We can do that. So that'll be very funny. It's always a blast to watch Red vs. Blue stuff with an audience. Because we so rarely get to do that. Yeah. Especially an audience that pays $300 to take it to get in.

With three? I'm kidding. Dear Lord, how would you know what it is yet? That's the best of the fake effect. audience because we so rarely get to do that. Yeah, especially an audience that pays $300 to take it to get in. Well three Dear Lord, how would you know what it is yet? That's the best of the fake effect. I mean, it's a little 30 $30 Yeah, which is significantly less than 300. It's a temp now. It seems like a steal and comparison Yeah, originally there were 300,000 so there's no reason not to do it. Are we capping how many people how many tickets a person can buy? No, We should. At two. We'll void your order. Otherwise.

Yeah. We'll have to work something out. There's technical limitations. Why we can't do that. But maybe we'll void and you order greater than two. Maybe we just cut out some parts of what we're talking about. We just say. Maybe people.

Yes. I'm told that you can't buy more than two tickets. Two tickets. Let's cover all our bases. You can't buy more than two tickets. You can't buy cover all our bases. You can't buy more than two tickets You can't buy more than three tickets. You can't buy more than four tickets. See now we've got it all covered good You can only buy tickets with gold Please mail gold tickets are tickets are seventy five dollars

Take it to sixty five dollars. All right measure make it's a thirty five dollars. This joke is still funny This joke is getting less funny So hey, since we're coming up on the anniversary here of Rooster Chief, maybe we should talk a little bit about the beginning of the company. Okay. And it's interesting that you two guys are here too, because the three of us, not you guys,

we make up the film half of the company, essentially, we're the, it's like two vectors that came together. It's the movie guys that came together, and then the tech guys that came together. And I kind of bridge like between the two of them. Yeah. And I was thinking the other day about how we made a movie in college.

Joel, that's how I met you is. I wanted to make a movie. I was a computer science student. And I basically put up a flyer on the kiosk. It said, hey, I'm a CS student. I want to learn to make a move, how to make movies, but I don't want to attend a bunch of classes. Is there any film students out there that want to help me make make a movie and I didn't read the flyer very well. So like six months into making the movie

I was like dude, when are you gonna teach me a computer programming? That's why I called you in the first place. So that was Joel and I were roommates Bernie and I were you roommates? Yeah, yeah, it was weird like we had the deal where it was like four people Yeah, like Matt and some dude was in one room and a me and some other dude were in other rooms. Yeah, quasi roommates. So Joel and I were quasi roommates. Which does not like not what you're thinking. And and Bernie and I worked at the the student TV station together. Yep. And then we all make important. We make important. And it was called Quasai roommate, so love story.

And then that's how we all came together. It's funny because people bring up the schedule. That's the name of the movie, which is the name of the movie. But before that, there was another thing that Matt had worked on, which is super embarrassing. Oh, yeah. Which hopefully that never sees a lot of day. I don't have any tapes for that anymore, even.

What was it called? So, a coaching show. It was called Vicious Cyclone. Oh, you know, and the cooking show was a sketch That's what we came from yeah, and Sean you can play is York. Yeah, plays York in red versus blue And he's back for the season and he was the other he was Joel's Counterpart in the schedule the movie that we made yeah,, and he was your brother and he was right. Yeah Over all these years four decades we've worked So that's older than me. You know I think about the other it's really crazy about like those times and how different the world is now Versus back then is that we made the movie and it took us what it took us about

three months total to shoot it because we were working day jobs and like meeting at night and weekends to shoot the movie we shot on film we shot on 60 millimeter film we each had to develop and then transfer to video so we could edit it stressful yeah because we didn't know we were shooting we couldn't see our stuff until what two months in we didn't see the first shot yeah it was just it was intense yeah and it was just like you was in pants. That's the same. Yeah, and it was just like, you know, it's like the whole turn, right? And then you turn the camera on,

it's like, that's money, money burn. Yeah, and I'm sure there's a problem, like there's a possibility that the development prosecute fucked up in your film could be. Well, normally on a movie, normally on a movie that had money, they would just like, you would get what's called daily, which means you send the film off to be processed that night.

It comes back the next morning, but we didn't have the money to do it. It kind of piece me like that. We had to wait until we had a bunch of film so we could get a discount on all that volume at once. And the lab was not even in Austin. It was up in Dallas. What was the total cost for all the film plus the lab all together?

The film the lab was for like $7,500 altogether. Home movie was like 9,000 altogether. All in credit card. Yeah. And so home movie was like 9000 all together. Wow all in credit card Yeah, and so then we built a non-linear editor We did all these things that you do when you're first making a movie They think we're gonna make people talk about it like you wait as we I see people do this a lot And we fell into the trap too of we tried to make the movie too much about the story about making the movie You know, yeah, we were we should have thought about the thing itself.. Yeah, just make a good movie and then people people want to watch it. But it was that every time I came over to I think it was your place whatever it was like wow we've

just upgraded this computer again and it was like I don't think there's another computer within we started with a pin the pinium 133 or something like that. Yeah, I mean it was at the time it was like floating point. Yeah, it's like one of the last. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah, I remember with the time it was like, it was the shit computer. Yeah. Oh, it's awesome.

Yeah, yeah. And now it's a hard drive. It was. That's that's that's pretty amazing for like it was. It was an arm. And I remember. Yeah, exactly. It's not like a plane taking off.

We met we met at some convention or something. Some like industry convention, the guy from the manufacturer who made those hard drives. Right. I don't think they're in business anymore. It was my crop list. They were like specialty, like they made ultra fast, scuzzy hard drive. Nobody uses scuzzy anymore either.

Yeah, I haven't heard that term in a while. Yeah, we have a cabinet full of scuzzy. Nobody uses it in terms of you know desktop hardware, but My grompless yeah, we met we met one of the guys like who worked at my cronpless at a trade show and We're like so we got these four gig drives But are you guys ever gonna go up to eight gigs because that would be cool. He's like can't do it No hard drive will ever be eight gigs mark Mark my words. Four is the max. After that, it just falls apart.

You know, this is a visionary. Yeah, it's a visionary. And like, what are hard drives now? They can get like a three terabyte hard drive. So, like, what was the maximum amount of like, in terms of minutes, how much footage could you fit on? Five seconds. No, no, we could do, we could use five minutes

of the movie at a time. I'm gonna give you about 16 minutes of footage on there. But it wasn't it wasn't even like full brought what they call broadcast quality. Right. We were doing. We were taking off VHS tapes at the time and putting on there. Anyway, so we finished the movie. We took us 11 months. We had this movie that was done, right? Right. And we showed it. We rented out a theater locally and showed it. And how many people do you think showed up to that screening that we held? Liz my mom she was there You want to say a hundred if only it was I mean it was it was a small theater 150 people let's say yeah Maybe let's see let's see let's see we say 200 every time we showed it then we spent a year of our lives

Yeah, trying to get this thing into festivals writing everywhere got some of the nicest rejections from some of the most prestigious Film festivals in America and the form letters for discrete We ended up getting into what two or three festivals. Yeah. Total. And let's say those screenings were each 200 people each that showed at those three different festivals. Okay. So now we're up to 800 people that saw that movie. Can you imagine in this day if we put out a video and 800 people watched it? I mean we would think we have to reupload this video, something's clearly wrong with it technically, that it seemed impossible that only 800 people

could watch something. You know, it's just crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. And we realized that with Gus, because you guys had moved out to LA after we were still trying to sell the schedule, sell the movie. And I was working with Gus and Jeff.

And we just started writing this site drunk gamers and we were doing silly stuff and the Apple Switch ads were a big deal of time. And so I thought I got all this video equipment and all this capture equipment. We did that parody of the Apple Switch ad with Gus where he switches to a Macintosh for the games and he realizes there's no games on a Mac nine years ago. And now we're all Mac guys. How funny is that? But, so, we put that online and it was like a postage stamp size movie.

It was like, there was no YouTube at the time. It was not the mic. It was my time. And I didn't know where it got linked. So, the crazy thing to have was you guys were in LA. I put it online in Austin and then you saw it. I was working in LA at a visual effects company and there was a guy there who was kind of like

The guy who never did his job, and I'd always have to go and like you know go in his cubicle cubicle and be like Hey, man, get back to work. What's that? Yeah, there's a leg us and he was always watching home star runner and stuff like that So I got out about that all that early Internet animation stuff and The one day I walked into his cubicle they can like man all the stuff needs to be done He hadn't done it yet and on his monitor. I see you and I start talking about something on a guy. I just like had my brain just kind of melted

You know, I was like why are you looking at Gus? Do you know Gus? How do you know Gus? And it's like what are you talking about who's Gus? I'm like you're looking at Gus? Do you know Gus? How do you know Gus? And he's like, what are you talking about? Who's Gus? I'm like, you're looking at Gus right now. I'm like, I'm looking at you. I'm not looking at Gus. So you just your name Gus? It's like, no, no, no, on your computer. I was like, I don't know. It was just an internet video. And it's like, that was the Apple Switch ad. And I called Bernie, like, immediately. I was like, I just had this video with Gus. And it seems like something you would have done. And you were like, yeah, we did that. It's like, I just put it up yesterday.

Right. And we were like six hours ago, 18 hours is something like that. And it's like, that was a moment for us. So it was like, that's crazy. Like can you put something online and like, people are going to see it all the way across the country and just, you know, a matter of hours. I'm amazed you're able to recognize me considering I think the only time we had ever met before that was the night I ran out of the minivan because I did not want to go to Vegas.

Yeah, why is that what you were out of the minivan because I did not want to go to Vegas I Want to go to Vegas Yeah, no, that was why I met because I've been at tele network a bunch. Yeah, it's how many we were Every time I think about the story about Gus running out of the minivan I don't remember all the details, but I remember thinking well Gus was probably right. Gus was probably right Throwing out of the minivan knowing what I knew now, but That was where that was where you remember where he got out of the minivan So I was over there like Hollywood in Highland where that Del Taco with it were the transvestite hangout

Do you know there was so nice? No, there was a Del Taco over there. I wonder if it's still there. I was like I've been passed through like if you go to the if you go to the drive-through there are always like Transvestite prostites back there trading wigs Trading wigs Like I was a bond for a while One thing it was 2001. They won't probably 2001 because that's that's when I first met Jeff and Gus. Yeah before RVB At the story of the killer shrimp

Yeah, I think that's all you guys there's a twice or something before might have seen you in Austin one point of time But I remember yeah, it was before that and then that was the same E3 that halo Yeah, this is a lot for the first time I'm the first photos from the E3 appearance that Bungie did with halo We had never heard of Halo or seen anything about it And we were playing Halo in the booth and so some of the very first press photos about Halo were us playing it Yeah, which was like a weird thing we discovered years later But I would say that moment with that video that's when kind of the world got flat for us

That's when we lies totally we can put something out there and it could find its way To somebody that I would want to see it and it would find its way there on its own And that was an incredible crazy somebody that I would want to see it and it would find its way there on its own. And that was an incredible crazy moment. And I would say that moment is by the single most important moment in the history of this company, even more so than we were the first red versus blue video online because, you know, that's when we developed a lot of the early strategies of the company. That's why to this day, we still have a website, we still have our own presence on there,

which we think is an important part of what we do. It's crazy to think about the little things you do and how they have this big long cascading effect. And the reason why we all came together as a group, too. Yeah, what we learned and, you know, to get to the point was that when people see something they like, I'm just trying to summarize. I got to see something they watch. It's not a slide. You know, we'll see something they like on the internet. They're going to share it with their friends. Yeah. And you've got to have like a centralized, like repository of that stuff. Yes. And that's like, yes, that's what we do with our website.

And I think we also learned at that point in time that like we can't just recapture lightning in a bottle with an Apple switchhead. We can't do that every week. So let's do something else. Yeah. It's long running and it gives people another reason to come back other than novelty. So people come back. That's basically it.

Yeah. Cool. So that's a story of us. Yeah, that's us. Yeah. Basically in a nutshell. I feel like it's cool to talk about. Yeah, that's us. Basically, in a nutshell. I feel like it's cool to talk about that stuff, especially when now we're looking at this is our eighth anniversary. We've been doing this stuff.

I mean, if we back get into that, it's almost nine years. Yeah. Yeah. We shot the Apple Switch thing in June or July, I think of 2002. And the trailer for RVD went online in August 2002. Yeah. But then Gus got Gus and Jeff got butt hurt and they shut the site down. Gus fired everybody that was working for free essentially.

Yeah, I told him to screw. Well, it was one of our riders was doing kind of shady things. Oh, was he? Oh, yes, true. There was. There was some backstabbing going on. So I went ahead and shut it to I don't want to deal with the drama He's not telling about I'll tell you some writers taking stories Especially I got back to take my stories and then sending them to game companies as his and getting free games I remember you're in particular free hardware

Wow, you got a bean bag. Yeah, and a chair a gaming chair that really pissed me off And then he said he would write reviews for them as well And so we were starting getting emails from the company's going hey, when's that review for our thing going up? Like what the fuck are you talking about? We don't do, you know, we never got anything to review. And we found out, I was like, fuck this. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Yeah, it's not really a long-term strategy on this part.

Was it? No, I guess not. I think you got in trouble with a lot. A couple of years after, where it's going to take care of. But we were having personal differences too. Well, like a little bit. So it was like a, it was just kind of meltdown that happened and then It was a magazine called computer gaming world

Why did they put that switch add on that one of those dumb discs that appears on the Front of the magazine they don't do that anymore. Do they now with the internet? I would I don't know. I'm pretty sure I appreciate that girl these years dumb disc Well, it's just got her got her stuff out there There's been so many things over there. You copy that disc by the way, I think we do yeah, yeah, it was like, you gotta, you gotta stuff out there. There's been so many things over the years. Do you have a copy of that disc, by the way? I think we do. Yeah, it was like, you had to play it. Didn't you and a computer, you had to work.

But it's not one of those things where we've learned along the way too, that stuff we always think is going to be a big deal, typically has no impact at all. Like, we made Red versus Blue as a trailer so that when people saw the switch out on that disc they would come and see something new So that was the catalyst for making it but at the end of the day nobody showed up because of that disc But we made the we made the show because that disc was gonna be on a cover of magazine The cover of magazine was the most important thing in the world. Yeah, probably the best example of that was

MTV news was gonna. Yeah, MTV news was gonna do a story about us down in Buda. And they did. I mean, we had the whole TRL thing. Right, we were on TRL. And we were like, we posted all this stuff like, if you're brand new to this site, here's how you sign up, here's how you watch the videos. We got new servers.

We got new servers, we spent a lot of money, and it was just kind of like, just a regular day. Right. I mean, we thought we were gonna be on TV, on MTV. This is our demographic. Their watches are show. Their premiere, not as good as. just a regular day. Right. Nothing going on. We're going to be on TV on MTV. This is our demographic. Their watches are show. Their premiere.

Not as good as on MTV at the time. I mean, that was the show. You did not get the Jersey Effect Shore. The Jersey Effect Shore? No, we did get the Jersey Effect Shore Effect. Yeah, and we got all pumped and ready for this. This is going to be a wide open, everything. And it literally had no appreciable effect on traffic at all.

But a link on a blog or a link by like Tyco from Penny Arcade or a story on Flashlight. It's just two different audience. It's totally different. Yeah, it's also, it's easier when it's a link and something you can click on and actively do versus putting a disc in your computer or watching TV and then you're like, oh, I'm going to go to that. I'm going to go to that. Exactly right.

Exactly. That's when we learned. It's like we, not saying we're going to get excited about opportunities when they came up, but we learned there's a big difference between being in like a print anything like a magazine or whatever, or being on TV versus someone covering you on the internet. It's so much more valuable. Even if they have a way lower audience.

It's more powerful. I mean, in terms of know, versus passive kind of thing that you've talked about, like, you're scared. You click the link, you know, I mean, that's really like an under appreciated, you know, powerful marketing thing. It was like having that link. I mean, people really, they went to the site from those, you know, from those other sites. They didn't go to our site from MTV. It was like watching TV. Yeah, I guess when you talk about active versus passive, that's another good point. It's like versus the entertainment I guess when you talk about active versus passive, that's another good point. It's like versus the entertainment being thrown at you versus having to hunt it out.

And like, look on stuff and look like, after I'm done with this, what am I going to look at? Yeah, yeah. Now I've got to continue finding things. At the same time, that's made a lot harder. I mean, I'm television. Who knows if advertising's working or not? You can just say, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's working.

No problem. The same thing with newspapers, but on the internet, you know exactly how many people clicked. So it's harder to make the same type of money for the same type of audience. I mean, if Apple's Apple's are equal, you're still gonna make less money on the internet because people know advertising doesn't work as well.

That's one of the things that dress me crazy about internet advertising is that advertisers get all these metrics and they're like, oh, our advertising isn't working, but they don't get those same metrics in print or television. They do, but it's all made up bullshit. So it's like, oh, yeah, you know, they had this many people watching it.

Like, there's no counting for who left the room, who muted the TV, you know, who DVR'd it and skipped it. Listen to Mr. Cutter over there, by the way. It's all about the bottom line. Like, it's all about, we've got to protect our assets and buy gold. But we have to think about revenue in a fight or flight mode. And listen, I don't know how you feel about advertising in general, but I was always amazed that people's attitude towards

the performance of internet advertising that that didn't then bleed into other forms of advertising. Okay, now we actually have a way to measure the stuff. Does it actually work or not? And it didn't affect television advertising or print advertising. It's really weird. You think it would have demystified the whole thing for everybody. Yeah, for sure. I don't know. I mean, I remember taking advertising classes in college and like going back and looking at old statistics and this

that and the other thing and where it's like, well, if Pepsi, you know, selling sugar water against Coke who also sells sugar water, if one of them drops off their marketing budget, they feel that in sales following here. Like they're, and that's not odd. That's how it's worked in the past, but I don't know. I showed Gus this crazy thing, and I don't remember if we talked about it on the podcast before. I don't think we did. So I sent Gus this chart, which was put together by the New York Times, and it was American meat consumption over the last century. Yeah, that's all that.

You know, it's the part where eggs cross as chickens. Yeah, I love it. That's helpful because you want to know that as people eat more chicken, then there's let you know, if I don't know if there's less eggs around. There's almost first chicken or the egg. I don't know, maybe that shark can help.

Me, consumption, century. Essentially while he's looking that up, it showed that before KFC opened, Americans didn't typically eat a lot of chicken. That's that's understating it completely almost. Oh, there it is. I mean, they would eat typically eat a lot of chicken. That's not that's understating it completely almost. Oh, there it is. I mean, they would eat 15 pounds per year of chicken Americans. And then this is, as opposed to the time they're eating like 60 pounds of beef.

That's, this is the chicken line here, okay. And it's, it's going like this. This is the line for the deep fried skin. That dot right before it takes off is the first Kentucky fried chicken franchise opening. No. And now Americans eat 60 pounds of chicken here. Does that line also show how much herbs and spices we consume? No.

Because that has to increase by 7fold. The average American eats 120 pounds of chicken and beef a year. Is that, does it seem like a lot to you? It's a pound every three days. So like five ounces a day? It's a pound of chicken and beef. And or beef every three days. Right. That's just like a lunch. Like that a pound of chicken and beef and or beef right every three like a month like that much. Yeah, no, it doesn't. Yeah. I eat more than that. In World

War one, the highest anything, but it was the eight about 50 pounds of beef a year. And that was it. You know, people ate less back then. It was 50 pounds of beef and 10 pounds of chicken. So it's about half. I'm embarrassed to admit I'm making myself hungry. I talked about this. I didn't want to admit that. Well, we should probably wrap up anyway. Get a good one. I got the lunch wrap up.

Yeah, let's get some KFC. Sure. We got our sponsor for the self-send in there. This is a Brought to you by KFC. And it was owned by the Pepsi Sugar Water Company, right? He sold it for two million dollars at the time. Who did? Kurt Sanders.

He sold it. And in like a year later or two years later was like worth Ten million. I think it was like worth 250 million dollars like not a couple of years after that Yeah, is Colonel Sanders the guy the dude that's in the commercials and on the packaging is that the real guy? I think I mean it's close enough. Yeah, really it's close He tried to start is close enough. What does that phrase mean? Well, I think either's close enough. Yeah, really it's close. He tried to start his own brain. He's close enough. What does that phrase mean? Well, I think it is. It's either a hand mark.

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