Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #108

Episode Date: April 6, 2011

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It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie comes the new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-oxane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnett, and Thomas Hayden Church.

Twisted metal, now only on peacock Drunk tank Drunk tank It's the drunk tank baby I have no idea what the gasp is I don't know what to think about that. That was the fake crowd watching me synth voice. Are people who use that synth voice, are they too embarrassed to use their own voice, or they don't want to sing, so they get the computer to do the work for them?

I don't know. It just seems like it's something that somebody started using one day, and then suddenly everybody else was using it. It's cool. It's futuristic. It's futuristic. So welcome to the podcast. it. It's cool, it's futuristic. There you go. It's future awesome. So welcome to the podcast.

Thanks, it's good to be here. No, I'm not welcoming you. I'm welcoming the people listening. Well, it's still good to be here. Jeff, I'd like to welcome you to the podcast. Hey, thanks, it's good to be here. You got Jeff and Griffin, Bernie and Gus here. Howdy.

You would say third. That's the shitty spot. I guess the people will remember you, I've heard you're the last one. No, no, no, I was third out of four He was the one the people remember and Jeff and Griffin were not here for the video podcast last week. So welcome back Yay, yeah Hopefully you guys

Welcome earlier I got a little bit thrown off surprise by you. Yeah, I'm not sure if it's appropriate for me to be I don't They thought you meant a Jeff and Griffin from the audience. Oh, okay. Thank you, ma'am. I could see why that would be a confusing. Yay. So we're back to audio format this week. Hopefully we'll do a video again sometime. Hopefully it'll be come a monthly thing. That's our goal. There you go. We have high aspirations. It's one a month. Yeah. So what I want to do again. I want to do one of those John tanks we did where we played left for dead. Well, we did the drunk tank. Yeah, I would like to do something like that again I wish we figured we should figure that out

We should definitely get on that we'll get top man working on it right now. Okay, should we first get some top man? We've been in a griffin and I've been working a lot lately trying to do some RTX planning I'm not liking this whole working all the time thing It seems like it's a lot of talking on the phone, which I hate. Yeah, now it's the most people I've ever been. And we both are fighting like, who's gonna take point this time? It's like, I called last time. Like, I had to call someone back today that I've been dodging for two days.

It's like, because I didn't want to tell him that we weren't gonna use his services for the event. It's true. If there's one thing you're not good at, aside from muscles, it's talking on the phone or interacting with people in any way. No, no. It's definitely my weak point. We had to have canceled if any, that actually we were pretty excited about. And they haven't written me back yet. I'm worried that we hurt their feelings. Yeah. I like to, it was our Cade called pinballs up north. And we're just too big for them now because their capacity is like 290. Next time you need to cancel something like that, you should have Matt do it. Yeah, he lives for that kind of stuff.

He's a fucking dream crusher. And I also, I never went to business school or anything, but just as a normal business etiquette, you should never break the news somebody by saying, we're just too big for you. Yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't, I just said that we had a problem with our ticketing system, and that we were just

beyond their capacity, but that we really wanted to do something with them in the future. Speaking of being nice, they, like, complain him, ball. Speaking of being too big for the pin balls, referring to too big for the balls, let's keep driving that point. Yeah.

In case it listens to the podcast, referring to the fact that we oversold our tickets by 335 or so. Yeah, like about 150% or something. I was reading comments on our site and on other sites from people that are like, that's, you guys know, not to fall for that, right? That's totally a clever marketing ploy.

They had knew exactly what they were doing when they oversold. Technology doesn't work like that. You don't just over sell tickets. That's absolutely not true. We are just in confident. I kind of want people to think that, know that we had a plan.

Yeah, no, we're not that smart. That we're shitty viral marketers. Yeah. You know what I like about that complaint that it was a viral marketing scheme that we oversold tickets is, how bad a viral marketers would we have to be to put our viral marketing scheme out there

after tickets are sold? Right. Once we're not selling the product anymore. Yeah, once you can no longer buy into the tickets, that's when we want the massive amount of people show up. It's a it's a limitation of the way the Yahoo store checks inventory Yeah, there are like people who are like obviously you just have to write a sequel statement like this Like really how many how many fucking shopping carts of you designed asshole. Yeah I didn't realize we had a fucking

Smorgas Borg of experience here in the comments on the internet Did you just say smorgasborg? Yeah, fuck it. Is that where the Borg can't get fun, man? It all makes sense now. That's what they assimilate scallops, potatoes, and cheese. LAUGHTER But you talk about these top men and griffin says we need to get more top men.

I want to say that as one of the owners of the company, I feel compelled to talk to Griffin about her beefcake photos that's now starting putting up. I have a collection started. In her work area, that is a hostile work environment that you were creating there in the studio. I was kind of the point, I want everyone to stay away. Because they want to take out some pecs because I've got some. Basically, if you walk into the studio, you have anime girls on your left and then details models on your right. It's like, Gryven's like the female version of a mechanic. She's the, she's,

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. You're saying there's no female mechanics? No, there's not. There might be like mechanics with vaginas, but they're not. I'm kidding. No, but of like that stereotypical mechanic where you walk in and there's like the calendar of hot girls holding wrenches that are way too big for you.

I do feel like I need to balance money out because he always has like the hot anime girls out. That's what I'm saying. You look at Bonnie's desk, you saw anime girls on his desk. I caught her buying a calendar of dudes without shirts on holding kittens. It's gonna be great. It's called the hot dudes with small animals, but I'm holding. They want to show me the inside of it, so I'm hoping it's not some weird porn thing.

I'm hoping it's just what it says it is. Check out that beefcake small animal. I had to just, it's coming straight to the office because I don't want to wait. You can do a bar of staff at Shiptome. It would show up in her mailbox and her mail carrier would have judgment over her. Whereas our, I think our postal care here at the office

has given up all hope of judging us in any way.. Oh absolutely. After all the things they've delivered here We get some weird ass things. We do we really really do get some weird stuff I'm done I was gonna weird phase where I was getting like two or three packages a day for some reason we were building out the office And now I'm done and just like that at home with shoes two of those three packages a day were waffle mix We do we do have a lot of waffle mix yet. I have no idea how that happened. We have a rack of snacks essentially

for when we're in crunch or production. And it's just so people can grab something quickly to eat. And one of the things that I bought in the process was a waffle iron. And then on Amazon, you can subscribe to a product, which is cool. I always wanted that as a guy. I just want to subscribe to Deodorant and soap.

And it just shows up once a month, yeah. Exactly. But I instead of doing it with Deodorant and soap, I did it with this quick waffle. So, and I forgot to turn it off, and then it just kept showing up, like 12 packages and the waffle makes every week. Do you remember when we first started doing events

and we first started booking hotels? That was like, that was what got a hotel. If they had free waffles in the morning. We were staying there Yeah, that that was the requires a Lakinta in Kirkland that we used to always stay at that had those That had those waffles and we stayed there until the time that we went to Seattle and all power got lost Oh, yeah, there was no they were put glow sticks in the hallway of the hotel to guide people Yeah, that was scary night. We used to be better travelers we were. We actually worst travelers now than we were back then. Oh terrible Because we would just go to the cheapest hotel just cuz they had free free waffles and we would share rooms and things like that Yeah, I've gotten I used to share beds. Is that what qualifies cost? Is that what qualifies as a good traveler?

Yeah, we just didn't care as much now. There's no way we're sharing a room with each other. I don't know what to be in the same floor I think that makes me a better traveler Now there's no way we're sharing a room with each other. I don't even want to be in the same floor. I think floor of you, that makes me a better traveler. They were going to go into Pax East. Bernie and I think that we were, like his room was on top of mine by a few floors and that made me feel not good.

Like I wanted to move rooms. Like knowing that Bernie was exactly above me, five floors up, I was like, no. If a hotel has two towers, island system being in the other tower. Oh, anything serious. Sure, that tower is under construction. That's fine.

Totally fine. Totally fine. I played the last level of Leffer dead. That's so bad. I'm comfortable with girders and cellophane. So, Gus, when you guys were talking about fighting over who gets to make the phone call to the contractor, first of all, these two idiots are doing something stupid with their house contractor, which we have to talk about.

But in your house, Gus, do you make those phone calls in your personal personal life or does your wife make those phone calls? I make those phone calls The word should finance as well in your house. Do you do the finances? Yeah, my wife used to take care of them But I she she stopped and decided to take them over She just stopped one day. Yeah. Yeah, that's a problem when you stop taking care of that stuff It's like hmm building to be paid. Oh Hey, the lights went out. We're the lak taking care of that stuff. It's like, hmm, build me to be paid. Uh-oh. Hey, the likes went out. We're in the Likinton Bellevue.

That's weird. What about you guys? Who does the finances in your house? Nobody really does the finances. Like, we always are late to pay our bills. Like, every single month. I like it. Really?

Is that what we are? No, you always take care of it in the end, but it takes a while for you to get there. And I just don't take care of it. So I would say, when was the last, how would you even know what our bills are? I probably, I always end up having to pay, like, I can take care of the gas bill. Like that's the one that I'm like, there you go.

Why the gas bill? Because I'm always, whenever we don't pay the gas bill, I have to go and deal with like getting it, like, turned back on. So I know exactly where to do that. You know where you can do it? Real easy? The internet. I paid, I paid our, for the record, I paid our gas bill yesterday

on one. Oh, thanks. Yeah, no problem. Also the mortgage and the electric and the phone bill. You can probably set up recurring payments to avoid future most kind of that. I have every single payment that I have to make on a monthly basis.

I have it all taken care of to where I don't have to touch except for one. And that is the stupid ass city of Austin. I have to go through and manually process a credit card payment once a month. But everything else is just automatic. I don't even see it. Can we do that with ours like are there, is that an option? Yeah, but if you did it that way, you wouldn't get to pay late fees.

You would never get to meet the guy who disconnects your services. Yeah, it's so nice. Try to, try to, try to prop up the economy here. She's really hoping that one day the guy will arrive to reconnect the gas and be holding a kitten That's what it's really helping for you know and a wrench a giant wrench those guys that show up at your house to do things for you They're never good looking This I'm sorry. Wow No, I don't mean I'm maybe I have bad luck, but like the mailman he shut like you were saying that I don't want to scare them out

But I don't yeah I've never I've never like I never have like a supermodel walk up and take care of that for me And then Dightman on the looks of the US Postal Men, I would be more concerned that she's at home waiting for these guys hoping to be good looking. I'm gonna come into the house. Like, you guys don't help though, whoever you deal is gonna be good looking. Not the cable installer, no, I'm like, God, I'm hoping for a looker. Yeah. I'm hoping for a guy who shows up at my house who isn't like the guy who is at my house

the other day to install my time Warner Roadrunner Extreme. The dream which I have at the house which now they say will give me 20 megabits down and it has on speed test. How do you test your speed if you're connected? Speed test. Okay that's exactly what I used to. So I'm gonna ask you for using that. If you don't want me asking, what how much extra do you pay for MEGA internet?

I pay 10 extra dollars a month on top of the 10 extra dollars a month that I pay for roadrunner turbo. So now I have roadrunner turbo. So, it's roadrunner turbo extreme. Can you, you can't get extreme less you have turbo? Do you have to have both? Yeah. I wouldn't even know.

I wouldn't even know, because I was already turbo. I mean, even know. I wouldn't even know. Because I was already turbo. I would imagine, I would imagine most people would say like if their internet was slow, they're going to go up one level. Yeah. They're not, you requested a second level. Like if it doesn't exist yet, please make it.

I'm sure they even like train the reps at time order. Like no sir, we can't take you to extreme. My manager won't allow it. We can call it, put me in coach. I can handle it. I want to get turbo now. So your internet at home is now faster than our internet here at the office. I'm about to do a speedtest.net test of our...

What, why don't you let me do it? Because you're on wireless? I'm on wireless at home now, so shut up. Uh oh, fuck you. So I got 21 megabits per second down. You should 2.5 up You should make sure that when you that when you do the test that it's not a Like a time-worn or road runner. Look at him. He's like this. I got a protest is getting upset

I'm just saying before the results even come in. I'm just saying he's gonna nullify your results no matter what they are I should be embarrassed by this. I'm looking at it. Why am I gonna be embarrassed time-worn or should be embarrassed by this. I'm looking at it. Why am I going to be embarrassed? Time Warner should be embarrassed. Because you're the tech guy. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? We depend on you to make this good. Me. I didn't build our fucking network.

I don't even have to be terrible here at the office too, like the past two days. Well, it was terrible at my house too. So it looks like I'm going to end up about 5.6 down here, almost 6 down, and then about 1 up. 2 up. 2 up. 2 up.

As soon as the podcast is over, we're going to go get turbo. You guys don't even have time order, do you? Yeah. You have to do. Yeah. Oh, I thought you got rid of all your cable. No, I have time order, isn't it? Yeah, we just don't do cable TV.

Well, here's what you're going to like. The modem for time order, Roadrunner Extreme, is about the size of this laptop. Oh, great. It is enormous. I'm not kidding. Like, this is small compared to the size of my new cable modem. And it's got like a built-in wireless, right? I mean, the thing is enormous. It reminds me of Back in Day, when my friend got a 14-4 modem when they first came out. And it was like, it looked like it was a dinner plate sitting on his desk.

Well, that's good, because we have too much space at our house Fill it but the guy the guy who came to install it He literally I was I was helping him. He he was on my wife's computer trying to configure it And I was like no, no, please get off there. I said I can do this and I I can figure it. He said great I'm glad you helped me because I'm not really a computer guy I was like what you know I'm glad you helped me because I'm not really a computer guy. I was like, what? You know, you don't get to say that.

I hate when housewives say that kind of thing. You're a guy installing internet. You work in a data company. You don't get to say you're not a computer guy. Every cable installer I've ever had has said that to me. It's like, you've probably installed this every day, like repeatedly. And you don't have, you haven't figured out how the fuck it works. They're cable guys. that happens something similar like recently you and I went to home deep o'Bernie and some We had to buy bought washers for some reason like a bunch of stuff in washers and the person checking

That was like what are these? Right Physical hardware washers not like a washer and dryer No, no, yeah, you did buy a washer dryer recently. It was actually we bought the washer with like the nuts and bolts and the whole thing It was like she just didn't understand what the washer would do, but I feel like that's like something that everyone should know at this point How did you explain it? I explained it just that it helps I don't know You put me on spot. Yeah, yeah, I have pretty good spot. I want to know what a washer is I think I gave her a real sarcastic answer.'s like it's it's to make things, you know

We're working fucking home depot. It's a washer. I mean, it's just like to so you don't have the bolts get stuck and then us It doesn't scratch up your surface and like there's a couple of reasons why you look at you look at this It's not testing you. We just wanted to know. No, he was says look at his fucking face. Yeah Look at that. It was only a test. I wanted to put her on the spot Guys has no good intentions at all. See, vote for it, though. That was a total deflec. Because we were talking about how slowly internet at the office is, and boop! Yeah.

What does it want you to do? You can't even point. I've been found out. I need to like disappear in a puff of smoke now. If we go into any deeper into this and embarrass him anymore, he'll think of a shirt and start holding a puppy. Hey, speaking of embarrassing, Gus, do you want to tell us about your raid last night and wow? Oh, I don't think it's a boring story. I'll give the quick version I was in a pickup group for heroic and we're running it. We're trying to run through quickly So we weren't clearing all of the all of the enemies this boring. I told you I wasn't even picking a nevermind

I wasn't even picking it. Never mind. Yeah, we did it. You're a hero. Luxembourg short I pulled trash into a Boston counter and I was so embarrassed I quit the game He said he had to physically put his hand over the over the combats Oh, I had over the chat windows. I wouldn't see what they were yelling at me. You know, it's like Yes, I was so embarrassed So I like how much time was invested in the raid up until the point when you ruined everyone's night. Uh, at that point, we were only like 15 minutes in.

I'm sure they just wiped and picked up a new person and continued without me, but I was just mortified. I could not continue. You were that guy that you spent the last five years complaining. I know. I know. Do you, um, do you, are you pretty anonymous when you play while? Yeah.

OK. So why would you get embarrassed if you'd, if nobody knows who you are in real life? I don't know. Just like, I don't, I felt embarrassed that like, is like, maybe the thing I was an idiot or something? Well, I guess it's like, you have one character that you usually stick to. Yeah. Right? And you've probably spent more time in wild than you do in the real world.

I can see how maybe like, be embarrassed on your character's behalf. Yeah, it was an embarrassing day. Are you still at that level, Gus? Yeah. You can play wild that much? I probably play two hours a night, maybe. Really? Wow.

Even when we're in, like, except for last night, when I played for 15 minutes, I could play with them. Even at like packs after like a long day of like 10 hours in the booth, he has to go back and run his daily heroics before he can eat dinner or go out. No, that was after dinner. I've got one with the bed Which I get I don't know I understand that I Rediscovered something I've been out of gaming and trying to get back in it's odd and I try to get back in at first playing the

Mass Effect 2 DLC But I'm a little I'm a little pissed off about that. And I really like Mass Effect and I really like BioWare, but I forgot that when I played Mass Effect 2, I forgot that my kid had watched me play the ending of the original Mass Effect, so he was super excited about Mass Effect 2 coming out. So when it came out, we used the code

for the Cerebrus Network for him. So he could download all the extra costumes and outfits and all that stuff. So basically what ended up happening there was he has the cerebrus network on his profile at home, but we play in the same Xbox at home. So that's okay for DRM. But now I can't play anywhere else. I can't play at work or I can't play my other Xbox, which I have at home, which is one I normally plan Because he's got it so not meant to pay like 15 bucks to get that thing or 10 bucks to get that so

The reason being is I load up my my save game and so you can't play on this one because it's got this content So you need to read down with this content to get it But then when I go into Xbox live It's not available for me to download because I didn't download. He did. Oh, I see. Yeah, that box on on his account. It's what DRM is and DLC is extremely frustrating for people who have multiple gamers in one house. Well, gamers and multiple boxes. Yeah. Yeah, multiple gamers and multiple boxes. I guess that's the way to put it. Yeah, and I realized it's way outside the norm that most people don't have more than one Xbox at home and certainly most people don't drive to their office where they have an Xbox on their desk

You know, but I'm not like Jack where I want everything to cater to exactly how I wanted to exact bizarre Specifications can I tell you something about him that drives me fucking crazy do it hit me God He keeps talking about when he makes achieve in hundred videos He hates that it keeps popping up like so and so is now signed in. Right. Or people are sending him letters along to the joint and express life. And these are on his videos which then end up recorded forever. And he says, I wish there's a way I can turn off all notifications except for achievement

unlocked because he needs that on the video. And there is. And there is. You go to your profile and say that your online status is your busy. The only thing it shows you if you're busy is Achievements unlocked and that's it awesome. How long has it been like that? Because I remember when you did that for a while now Since the one that that gamers go competition that you did I don't I don't I honestly don't remember when but that it was a couple of

Evisions again. We might not have known we were told that that's the function of the busy setting We it the business settings been there forever So that probably has been there. We just didn't know that's the function of the busy setting. The business setting's been there forever. So that probably has been there. We just didn't know that's what it did. And after you've found out about it, he still doesn't use it because it doesn't stay every time he logs in. He has to just hit the Xbox button right, right, AA.

And he doesn't want to do that. It seems optimal also that it would reset after every time you power cycle your box or sign out alive. You want to make sure that that's not constantly flagged as business. Because you don't want to forget. Right. Why am I not getting any invites?

Oh, fuck, that's right. It's equivalent to me of just determining one day. I want the Xbox to turn on when I walk in the room. Yeah. And then you decide that's the way it should be. And so I'm never going to turn on my Xbox ever. My 360 did something weird last night where I was going to, oh, my Zinnai before was going to play a home front

and my CD trade quit working. Really? I ejected it, put the game in, and then when I hit the button to close it, it didn't close. It was like, that's weird, so I kind of pushed the trade, because it was weird to make it close, and it didn't close it, acted like the motor wasn't working, like it kind of slowly went in and then stopped. I was like, huh, so I had to unplug it, unplug it back in and then it started working. Is this an Xbox Slim?

No, it's an elite. Oh, huh. I have a complaint about the new Xboxes. Oh, we're in complaint mode. Great, go for it. My dog is because the touch sensitive buttons. My dog and my cat open up my CD tray about 40 times a day. I love the touch buttons a lot.

There's something about the placement of that eject button. I've never hit a button actually more than I've hit that button. Yeah on anything in my life. It's just that one Yeah, it's not the power button. It's not the power buttons fun. It's the eject button I'm constantly hitting that eject button because it's on the corner where it's very easily accessible It's on the bevel you guys never had a kindle right? No, we have no, do we? No, I thought we did I'm sorry No, you have an iPad. What do we have? No, it's not the iPad It was something else. It's my closet. I know, but that's not what I meant What did you mean? No, what did you mean? No, no, I'm trying to remember we just have all these like devices that Jeff

Bought and then we haven't a closet somewhere like an iPad Is it a Kindle is it a nook? No, we've never had any reader. I've never had any reader No, I guess I must be mistaken. No, we've never had a Kindle. I'd like've never had an e-reader. No, I guess I must be mistaken. No, we've never had a Kindle. I'd like to buy a Kindle. You guys have to hide it from us. Tell us what it is. By all means. I don't, do we need one now? Don't we have one? I'm going to have an iPad.

Of course you. We've already got one. And it's in a closet somewhere. No, but you said you'd like to buy one. That means in a two weeks I'm going to see that we have a Kindle suddenly. Well, it'll make your conversation correct. I never. I'm doing it for you. You know, after we had the whole discussion

about Gus buying the Thunderbolt laptop. Thunderbolt. Jeff decided as part of Achievement Hunter's expansion, he wanted to start covering mobile games. And I specifically iPad games. So the reason why he decided to buy an iPad was because he couldn't get the App Store on his Mac to work for about

five minutes, I think, is how long you worked on that. No, I worked for two weeks. And then you went out and bought and so what was the final fix then when you finally fixed the App Store? There was a Apple update that fixed it. I don't believe that. This true. It's true.

But also the App Store is different on the on your desktop versus the iPad. It's very limited. I can play Angry Birds on the App Store on the desktop because that's their flagship game. And it just so happens to be that's the one I'm covering right now. But the majority of other games are not available via desktop. They're still only available on the iPad.

So Jeff went out and bought a new iPad too to cover mobile games. Which is a great idea, by the way. I don't want me to make you fun of you for not being able to use technology to be detract from my brilliant ideas. I don't want you to make making fun of you for not being able to use technology to be to track from my brilliant ideas. I don't want you to make fun of your creativity at all. In fact, they're related.

You can't work with technology, you have to be creative about how to use it. So you guys unbiased an iPad like you bought your Thunderbolt laptop on your own dime though. I guess. I definitely bought that iPad. That iPad is now a coaster on your desk from what I can tell. I'm waiting for a solution to capture from the iPad. It had there's a there's a cord Wait, you were in a technology problem. I did there's a plug-in that will let you output HDMI To like a television or a monitor But it the signal doesn't work with our intensity card or our aja capture box

It kind of worked with the idea works with the Aja with about a half an hour of finagling. And a million cables. And a million cables. It's just an in-election solution. So I've set the iPad to busy. Is that what I'm hearing here? Yeah, I've set the iPad to busy.

So I am looking for another workaround to get the iPad to capture. Where is the iPad right now? It's on the desk. I bet you $10 something is on top of the iPad. Did you see a drink on top of the iPad before us? No, look, just like, he bought this thing, it was really necessary. He had it.

He worked with it for about 20 or 30 minutes trying to get it to capture. And then that didn't work. I'll just use the App Store. What did he get it done? Just so hard. Before he went the where? That the App Store got patched the day that we got the iPad. What an amazing coincidence.

Also Gus, how long did we work with that thing? It was a long time. Half a day probably. Yeah. Actually, I shouldn't make fun because if there's one company in the entire world where the day you make the purchase, they make an announcement or a change that invalidates your purchase in the app.

We went so far as to pull out the old like, intensity breakout boxes we used to have from season five and try to get that to work even that was yeah Successful we're clearly didn't go all the way you didn't go to the internet methodology of taping a camcorder to the eye I didn't that's next some of the mobile walkthroughs that I've seen her demonstrations games I used to have like almost like a Set up or to tripod pointing straight down and people would actually use the iPhone or iPad in front of that. Yeah, that's lame.

Yeah, that was pretty lame. That was strange. Your solution is much better. Thank you. So long story short, we're buying a $10,000 capture device. Yeah. But we'd be dumb not to. Because I got this $5.00 iPad that's saying they're doing nothing.

You guys are really, I have to ask. You're not buying it now. God. Look at this. Maybe a great way to break things and use them. Well, that's exactly what happened. Thank God we have a second video to Drunk Tank podcast because that's how Gus got his new computer was.

Hey, I'm thinking about buying a new computer to process and render the Drunk Tank video podcast. Oh, you're thinking about that? I guess that would be a good idea instantly he bought it like he left the room I think I was even talking to someone else and you were interjecting in the middle of that conversation and as soon as you heard Something that was moderately positive. It went off and bought that's the way you got to do it I bought a computer yesterday doing the exact same thing about a computer for you yesterday the same way Hey, is this okay? Yeah, I guess, all right, it's time to switch.

He's got his finger on the return button on his laptop while he's asking, whoop done, all right, cool. And then you just don't mention it to the box show. Yeah, then the box shows up, and you hide the evidence as quickly as possible. Luckily, all these Mac pros look alike. Yeah.

Some people don't notice when a new one shows up. For the record, my iPad to, or the company's iPad 2 is under a baseball cap right now. Baseball cap? It's not gonna be like, brag and that we have an iPad to floating around. I'm hiding it. We keep it in a box. High down low. It sounds like you're dressing it up. Yeah. It's like your new friend. Just so you know I'm gonna tape a wrench in a tiny kitten to it.

I shouldn't bring this up. Uh oh. Because it's gonna cause problems. Uh oh. Oh shit. But I actually thwarted a conspiracy plot, specifically against someone in this room, oh really? Where there were some other people in the company who determined that they used their computer for more intense calculations and rendering. And so they realized somebody else in the company had a better computer than them, a better Mac pro. So they were going to swap it out one day after that person left work.

Is that person near Gus? That person, that actually already happened. I helped with this. Did it really? Yes, computers were swapped and no one has noticed. Really? Yes. Who's computer was swapped?

Hey, I'm going to keep an anonymous. That's what, who's computer SWAT? Chris and Marshall swapped Each others. Yeah, okay, this was something else. Okay. This was like shit I fucking put the seat them they asked me to do it and they saw it was possible I I know when I'll know if my computer is swapped out because every time I turn my computer on it tells me that my Ram is installed properly and if I don't see that notification, I'm gonna be pissed fuck off this was an interdepartment conspiracy. Interdepartment.

They were going to go between offices, between floors, and they were going to take somebody else's computer because it was determined that they didn't need it. Which, and I told them, if you do that, everyone is fired. Literally, everyone in the company, that moment is fired, because I will not want to deal with the fallout from something like that. Dude, there'll be some... I don't even... Oh my god.

If it was me, I will fucking kill some people. I'm not saying anything. So, let me get this straight. So if you came down and someone said that your job isn't as important as theirs and they took away your computer and replaced it with a cheaper one, would that upset you? Yes. Okay, good to know. I'll make a note of that.

Thank you. Yes. Okay, good to know. I'll make a note of that. Well, thank you. I'm... Everyone's trying to think like that bothers a lot when the conversation goes like, who could it have been? No, no, I absolutely know who it probably was. Little cock suckers. But you render more than anyone. I do. You're a fucking machine. I make five or six videos a day.

I'm making it, I'm rendering out a video right now. You don't have to justify anything. I didn't even say it was you. Yeah. It was you. Wasn, it was you wasn't it? No, no, although I would like to see you go insane slowly over the day We're all gonna go to lunch together and hash it out. Oh my god. We'll have a few beers working out Hey, before going further, we should mention that we have an interview with

Chris Robertson who writes the superman comic you like to to go away the first half of the interview by saying all that. Oh shit. We have an interview. Here, here, here, editing. Hey, before we go any further, we should mention that we have an interview. Yes, we do. We have an interview. A special drunk tank feature. So, why don't you guys check this out and we'll be back in a minute. All right, now Jeff. Yes, sir.

We have a special segment today. Yay. Because we have a special guest Uh-huh, and guys I've always felt like we talk about very nerdy geeky things. Yeah, video games That's our MO and our misunderstanding of sci-fi novels essentially But one place Jeff you're the only guy here who has any kind of knowledge and comics whatsoever I would say I have extensive knowledge and comics. I shouldn't say that. For on the ages of six to 32 or so. So do you have like the cardboard boxes

that were in your house with all the sleeves in them? I have about 10,000 comics. No shit. Really? Yeah, I have about 10,000 comics. So do you currently own those 10,000 comics? Yeah, they're my estimate. Well, I'm like I say where they are.

Wow, you survived a teenage mother, or not a teenage mother, but you were a teenage grandmother. You survived an ex-wife and a new wife and the comics have survived all of those. Absolutely. They're your constant. They're my constant Yeah, I spin them sometimes. Well, I just want to point out that he did earlier say Magneto's name was Magneto. I say Magneto because you say Magnet. It's dumb to say that. No, I'm I don't say it that way

But I can see that logic. Yeah, well, I always feel like I always feel like I can kind of Keep up with you a little bit of my knowledge of comics essentially is secret words like I'm mad like I'm like that low level of comic fan But my friend Chris Robertson Chris you say hello. Howdy Chris Robertson You thought he joined us because I thought we could cover some comics and I know Chris what about 10 years now Maybe longer 12 maybe yeah, Chris and Chris's wife Allison 14 we go back all the way to the faculty. Yeah. And before that, actually, I think when Chris and Alison, when Alison and Matt were working on the faculty together, when Matt just got his first job as a visual effects guy, was Alison, Chris's wife, who gave him

the job. Yeah, essentially. He tells him that every time she sees him, I love it. You know, she's like, she reminds me. him. I think I saw Dogma with Chris and Allison, and you and Matt like a hundred years ago. Oh yeah? That sounds likely, yeah. Got him. Am I known you that long? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's a little scary. But Chris is a science fiction writer, and then also now has made enormous headway in the industry of comics. Yeah, huge. How long have you been writing in comics? I had to do the math. I was gonna convention a couple weeks ago.

And my first published comic came out just over 20 months ago. Just over 20 months ago. Well, the big deal now, I mean, you have your own comic, IZombie, which is illustrated by. Mr. Mike Allred. Mike Allred. Is that on Vertigo? Yeah.

Wow. And then the big thing is though, there's about about six months ago. Chris was saying I'd get a new gig and he was kind of nervous about it. Talking a little bit and he's like, what is it? Well, I can't let's talk about it yet, but hopefully very soon. And now Chris is the writer for Superman. Yeah. And you're replacing Jay Michael Strzinski on his run, right?

I am indeed. I just want to point out that Chris is writing Superman. Yeah, no, no, but how do you go from publishing your first comic and then 20 months later replacing arguably one of the biggest names in comics on on Superman? I think maybe I might have had a dissociative break with reality and I could have gotten a corner somewhere. I don't know, I, you know, it took me 18 years to break into comics. Sure. Have you been trying for the full 18 years? Is that was that a goal? Yeah, on or off, yeah, I mean, my years to break into comics. Sure. Have you been trying for the full 18 years? Was that a goal? Yeah, on and off.

Yeah, I mean, my first concerted attempt was right after college. And every year, too, I would make another concerted tip. So that it sent out all kinds of really ill-advised pitches and whatnot. Right. And I became a novelist by default because I can type fast.

Oh, really? Yeah. There you go. If you can type fast, you can become a novelist. It was a big fun to make us out. I write, I've essentially fast. Oh, really? Yeah. There you go. If you can type fast, you can come another level. It was a big fun to make us out. I write, I've essentially written nine scripts, nine feature scripts in nine years that we've done with Rev. versus Blue, but I still type with two fingers.

Oh, that's true. It's really sad. I feel like it's holding me back. I took a secretarial typing class. Yeah. And I can type super fast. Do you have an idea like what your board terminal are? I'll turn it on you.

No. It's a my metric junkie. I'd have to know what that is. I would have to do it. The most I've done it today, this was a long time ago. I had one time I typed 15,000 words a day. 15,000 words. So you bring it down to words? You bring it on to pages in a way. Well, that just words. Yeah. And what's what's an average novel for you? But 200,000? About 100. Yeah, that was a that was a fluke. Normally it's about five or six. Yeah.

But these days, they're just write comics and those are super easy Let me ask you a question because I've read a lot because when I was like a kid I want to my goal is to be a comic book writer How many pages like I'm Superman say it's a 30 page comic 26 page comic right and a couple pages of ads like how many pages a day would you write on a monthly issue of Superman? I typically do a script a week. A script a week? Yeah, it's like one, one, twenty to twenty two pages comic a week and normally of that

three days is writing. You know, the first couple of days is like making notes and look at stuff, but the actual writing is usually about three days. Okay. That makes sense. I think I read an interview with Grant Morrison one time where he said he can write about a page a day which seems painfully slow to me. I'm not going to Morrison. Well, I want to know how it happens. How do you get that phone call that you're writing Superman?

It was weird. I had given up on doing any work with the DC comics. I grew up grew up as a DC kid. Oh, yeah, it was a Marvel guy Same here. Yeah, I think the original console war I'm not saying the people who like DC comics. I didn't get it at all. I read Marvel comics But like the Marvel stuff I read I was a big X-Men fan. So I like the X-Men Iron Man for me. Yeah, see I just never as an adult now I've gone back and re-run a bunch of it Now I like it a lot, but as a kid, you know, I don't think I realized how cheesy it was like how cheesy Tony Stark was and how He's like a ghost cocktail Bill Gates and you have your head a baby And with magnify's mustache a drunk baby

But yeah, so like I'd given up and I have a lot of drunk and conversations and conventions with like, oh, they'll never let us do anything cool. Like we'll never get to work for DC. And I got an email in September asking if I wanted to pitch one or two issue story ideas for this book Superman Batman. We just got like this latter day world's finest. And so I was doing two issues that I turned in the first issue

and then like three weeks later, got an email saying, hey, you're around, we'd like to talk on the phone. I was like, I've screwed up, I'm already fired. And they said, hey, do you want to do eight issues of Superman? And I said, yeah. How long do you have to think about it? Did you have to know it all a little bit?

Zero? No, the whole thing, like they kept trying to sell me on it because I was having to come in and do like the last two thirds of a storyline started by somebody else. And so they were ready to give me the hard sell. So they were trying to position it and like, oh, it'll be cool and you can do this in this. I was like, yes, yes. I'll go ahead and shift this out. I'll show it. I will do that. So I guess there's a bit of a very rough guide that maybe was left over. Yeah, you have to follow or it's a pretty rough outline. I mean what I was given was this kind of high level overview, the JMS, it turned in for the remainder of the issues. And the way that I usually describe it is it's kind of like the artinaria for a cross country road trip. Like we kind of want to go to this Stuckies and we want to

go see Graceland. But we have to be in San Diego by the first. And you have to, yeah, you have to end up here. Yeah, yeah, okay. But you've got a few days of wiggle room built in there. And if you decide not to go to that Stuckies to go to like a cracker barrel instead, you can get away with it. And that's, it's kind of literal in a sense to you because it's the Superman Grounded Series, right? Or he's walking across the country. Yeah, so there is, there is literally a geographical road map

that I have to follow too. That's bizarre, that's crazy. Yeah, so I have to figure out like, okay, yeah. And, but I've got, got a fair amount of latitude to tell the kind of stories I want to tell inside that framework. And so, like I want to do a story where, it comes out in a few weeks.

Superman and Batman reminiscing about one of the first times they teamed up when they were teenagers before they got their costumes. But I've got to make that story work in Utah. Like how do I get that story to work in Salt Lake City? Well, there was this bill, Wiley Wiley go to you villain So now to you is that a thing that obviously Superman and T. Me Batman team me up when they're teenagers before they get cost before they get costumes I mean Superman. Yeah, yeah, I was love that speech and kill bill about I Totally disagree with that speech and kill you truly disagree with this yellow We'll go back to that second. So this is obviously something that's major cannon, obviously, for Superman. And Batman.

So is that something, how much latitude do you have on something like that? Man, they're letting me get away with murder. They really are. How does that work? Is there like a keeper of the cannon at DC or Marvel? There can be possibly. There's a billion fans who will tell you. There used to be a back in the old days.

There's this guy, E Nelson Bredwell, who through the late 60s to the mid 80s that was basically his job He was in editorial, but his job was say oh now, you know The flashes belt is a run color here whatever. Yeah But now it's basically up to the the various editors to kind of keep track of it so much stuff comes out in a constant Basel I just did an issue with the with the flash gets starring and I'd forgotten that there was one page of a flash comic last year that established that he doesn't drink coffee. So I have him ordering coffee to diner and there was out you know, he and cry. Don't you know, flash doesn't drink coffee. People fall off

the wagon all the time. Well, I figure he has it with pie because we didn't see a meeting pie in that issue Oh, like it counteracts the negative coffee effects exactly It's like people who only smoke a cigarette with coffee same kind of a thing right exactly tell them he's not not that we're saying the flash smokes in Anyway, no, but he might we would be one page If that's enough guess guess the parents is yeah, who knows what I'll be doing Yeah, but we it's only all these franchises, too. Like, you always hear about, I mean, Superman is up there,

you know, it's Star Wars, you know, all these major, major franchises. In fact, it's hard to find anything that falls in the same realm as like a Star Wars or Superman. And, you know, we know Star Wars has the holocron where they just scrutinize every single thing that comes out, but in the same sense, you still get an episode two, you know,

that works its way into there. You know it's like you can everything can be nobody was watching. Yeah exactly you know it's like the I'm sure the people who were charged at Canon DC after Superman IV they were probably all fired immediately. Man I read a I read an article about that guy at Star Wars who's like the keeper of the of the knowledge. Yeah it sounds like an exhausting life. Like he had he's he was talking about having his responsible for like 20,000 years of story and he's got it all worked. He's got this massive database on his computer and people come up to him and they're like you know the Marjade were

blue underwear or red you know. Imagine if WikiLeaks got their hand on that database. It's one of the things you know that guy has the same conversation at every dinner party that he goes to It's like hey, can you tell me anything? Ha ha no shut out. I can't tell you anything Which is a chris at Comic Con two years ago. I think was when we went out Okay, Chris is actually friends Chris and Allison are friends with Vic the guy that are a red versus blue character Vic is based on and so I got to go out to dinner with all of them and then we went to a Comic party a comic party at Comic Con. I was the one the first time in my life I've ever excused myself from the place because I was too nervous about what I would do.

You're a shaky. I was a little nervous. Like I walked in and I saw a lot of really awesome people and I haven't you know I'm 35 now. I don't want to be like the nine-year-old comic book fan. So I had a drink and I said good bye very quickly. It's like feel happening. That's like what I met Richard Garriott, who is the guy who made all the ultimate games that I played growing up and it's like I've met twice now and I don't think I've formed a complete sentence either time. I have I had that experience every time I go to a con because every time I go to a con I end up sitting next to you or meeting or having drinks with someone that was a formative influence on me when I was 12. Yeah, and I just I had to move past it now I just have instead of having one drink and leaving. I'll have 10 and stay

And just make a fool of myself The drunk guy babbling in the corners that was a major Exactly We're talking about how comic Con has changed over time. And I asked you, I said, are the comic people upset about Comic Con now being this big thing that includes video games and movies and all this TV garbage as well? Yeah, bastards. I think what you told me was, you said, oh no, there's nothing hidden about it.

They absolutely hit it. Yeah, that's not sublimated or behind closed doors. They actively despise it. I can't imagine yeah How long is that even going on? Since the early 70s, I think yeah, yeah, they have a very long history I think yeah, like 35 I'm coming up on 40 years something like that. Yeah, I actually actually read it one time It's pretty interesting. It's a lot of the things. What was like it started with like 40 dudes like in a hotel room, you know, the first Star Trek adventure was that way too. Yeah, and then actually it was like 60 dudes 40 to say that's 50% of 10 increase etc. And then secret wars came up What's here you guys will come guys? What is the classic mini series or arc in a major series that really resonates with you to this day?

Kingdom come Kingdom come. I'm looking at is that that's the DC the the graphic novel. Yeah, yeah, I really liked that a lot I really liked it. It reminded me of something else though that I had seen before but I read I like I said I didn't grow reading DC And I read that and that was Kind of an alternative future thing. Yeah, or right? Crisis on, I think it was made to try to fix like all the nonsense. Like I like to, as a kid I like crisis on Infinite Earths a lot. I said adult I realize it's not very worried. Yeah, how about you Chris?

Well speaking of Kingdom Come, I remember that you and I were sitting with Matt and Allison outside of Trudy's one time about 10, 11 years ago and you were telling me this great idea for the next big film project you guys were going to do. And then you told me the title. And I was like, I think someone already used that title. Yeah, I have one of my titles in my script. It's now tentatively titled Kingdom Come. But yeah, I hated to take the window of your sales like that.

Yeah, that was fun. We saw the movie. So what are you going to do? But how about you? What's one that resonated with you? Oh, all of them. Yeah, I mean I was a big candidate fan of the Legion Superheroes the great darkness saga is huge Oh the new Teen Titans Judas contract Yeah, and where that one was it. What was the do you read that? Teenage Girl joins the teen Titans And then is there for like a year and we discover after a year that she's secretly been working with their arch enemy

And is not at all the person we think she is and just huge. It seems like a big twist Was she in popular character before she made the twist? I think so. I liked her. Yeah, I was 12 So what do I know but yeah? Yeah, I am. I really got into DC very, very late. I was a Marvel kid and then with a set of Batman, you know, because everybody reads Batman. But I didn't start reading, I think I started reading DC Comics as an adult. I started reading like when Grant Morrison did the reboot on Justice League. Oh, yeah. And that was brilliant. And I started reading DC all DC Comics after that because of that, that role and he did.

Good. What's the opinion of all the comic book movies? Like this, we're kind of in the middle of that's the big movie that comes out now as a comic book movie. Man Marvel makes some great comic book movies. Yeah, I'm really, I think this door thing could totally work. Everything I've seen from the Captain America first of Endure looks fantastic. I think so too. Like when the middle of the scrawny kid somehow digitally, that looks fantastic. I'm not, I don't, I'm the minimum the scrawny kid somehow digitally. Yeah. Looks fantastic. I'm not I don't I don't I'm not biting the

Thor thing yet honestly. We'll see what happens. I was never a major Thor fan growing up. Like I even read like the Bader Ray Bill's. Yeah. That was in there. I think that was the era that I read the whole. You know, I was never a big Thor fan. And then a couple of years ago I sat down and read all the original Stanley and Jack Kirby Thor. Yeah. It's fantastic. Is it? Yeah. I feel like we were we really missed out because if you started reading comics in like the 70s and Jack Kirby Thor. Yeah. It's fantastic. Is it? Yeah. I feel like we really missed out because if you started reading comics in like the 70s

or early 80s, really before Walt Simonson took over, Thor was just kind of okay. Right. And like all the older dudes remembered when it was fantastic and had this still affection for it. It's one of the original characters, right? Yeah. One of the original books, Thor? I mean, it's one of the early ones for sure.

It was in that first wave of the Marvel comics in, like, 61. I like what they did with him in, and I hope I get the name of the series right? It's the Ultimate Avengers, the reboot of the Avengers, which now are the Ultimate. The Ultimate? Yeah. What they do with Thor there, where they kind of made him, is he insane or is he really a Norse god? I really liked that a lot. And the way they worked Loki into that.

I know a lot of people were like don't like reboots, but I really enjoyed that series a lot or what's been out so far of it that I've seen. Is there a, not to change subject, but I've curiosity. Because you sounds like you've been reading commercial of a life. Is there an artist you would like die to work with? My goal is pretty fucking awesome. My dollar is at the top of my list. Yeah. So the fact that I do work with him is pretty ridiculous. I don't know. That's a good question. And you work with him on your book, I zombie. Yeah, that we own.

Awesome. Which is weird. Yeah. Tell us a little bit about a zombie. Tell us like the basic premise. I zombie is about Gwen who dies Which is sad and that she comes back from the dead as a zombie But with her memory intact she thinks so she doesn't want to hurt you buddy So she gets a job as a great digger and just once a month digs up the most fresh body and eats that brain And then when she eats the brain Eating the brain allows her to pass for human But then for the subsequent week, she shares her head with the thoughts and memories of

the dead person and then has to resolve any unresolved business they live behind. It's such an awesome device. I love it. I love it. How long does that arc usually take? Is it all within one issue usually? We've been doing it in like five issue chunks. So like five issues, normally takes place over the course just a couple days,

and then we do a fill-in on the sixth, and then we come back and do another. So we just wrap the first year issue 12 comes out in a couple of weeks. And now do you have a plan for Isombie? Is it just ongoing series? Because you could use this. It seems set up for, as long as you wanted to. I'll do it forever. Yeah, I mean, because in addition to the zombie, like her best friend is a ghost girl, there's a wearer terrier that's in love with her. The two rivals for her affections are a sexy monster hunter and a sexy mummy. But by the time we get to the end of the second arc,

it's just insane. We've been introduced to all the big lovecraftian monsters coming from outside of time is based at Edasol and some secret agent show up in the next issue. So I'll do this forever until they make me stop. Awesome. How many comics a month do you think like consecutive titles a month do you think you can handle writing? I'm really comfortable doing four. Yeah. Because because I've done as many as six scripts in a month, but it sucked. There's just something about I I think it's just psychologically like if I if I'm doing a script a week like that's what I'm doing that week

And I have a real sense of accomplishment. I can probably do a little more because I know I've done as many as three and four scripts in two weeks But then I end every week with like something in progress So I just feel like I'm a Shlub who's not doing anything. What are your current projects? I know you're working on Superman, IZombie, and you're also working on Starborn. What are there any other projects you have in the pipe as well? So Starborns are ongoing. That's at Boom with Stan Lee, who I think has a promising future. I might make it. Yeah. I'm midway through the second Cinder Elimini series

that spends out of Wilmingham's Fables. And I think that's all of them. Oh no, I'm doing an Elric miniseries. It starts up in July. Huh. So, I would give you an opportunity. What do you prefer to wake up in the morning and say, I get to work on my own series on the eyes

on me that I own, I get to work with Stan Lee, or today's the day I get to tell Superman what to do. I know, it's pretty ridiculous. I have to tear myself away from one awesome thing to do another awesome thing. And so, yeah, every once in a while, you know, the day-to-day minutiae of like deadlines and getting shit done, every once in a while,

you'll forget and complain. And I have Allison there to say, what are you talking about? You know, you make up stories about Superman and your own zombie character for a living. So don't complain about the workflow. Exactly. Yeah.

I get to imagine Allison saying don't complain. I think all of our wives have probably said that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh, I'm so sorry, you tired from playing the video games? You know, there was a big thing in video games a couple years ago that didn't really pan out Which was called episodic gaming where they were gonna come up with a premise for a game And then they were gonna release smaller chunks of the game over time

And I don't know how much video games that you play a lot up until about 10 years ago. Oh really? Yeah, just 10 years ago. Eight years ago. Okay, but the it didn't really pan out I got replaced by something called DLC where people just download additions to bigger games like map packs or Additional campaigns for a great game that you probably love called mass effect of super narrative game And it seems to me like comic books that if episode gaming could have worked like you could take something like I zombie, you know, and you could take these characters and you know Going to eat a different brain this week and then she has an adventure based on that. Obviously, you can't produce a video game as quickly as you can produce a comic, you know, because it takes a little bit more time.

You know, once you get the assets, you can do it, but you guys have ever been approached to do any video game stuff at all? No, I did a little bit of work. I wrote this, it was kind of a level for, you did one of these, the City of Heroes thing. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that was all right. Two like a nice tie into comics. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of fun. But no, that was it. That's my own experience. I had to actually, I am a, whatever the gaming equivalent of an ex-milk, because I had to stop gaming. I was wasting too much of my time that I could have been doing writing, and I spent way, way, way too many hours gaming. And so right before my kid was born, I had to swear off. Oh yeah. Was you a particular game or a type of game that was a killer for you. It was basically like, you know, immersive narrative-based first-person shooters.

Yeah. That's been a lot of time there. I think maybe the Jedi Knight 2 was maybe the last one I did. Yeah, you know, Jedi Knight 2, one of the things I really liked about that, I think it's that that title in that franchise where you could sneak up on stormtroopers and if you could kill them, they would have these ridiculously enane conversations. Yeah, you can just listen. Yeah, I love that. I like it. Force choke them. Yeah, after you got the airs in there. They're banter. Yeah. Yeah, that was a great series. So there's a there's a new great series that's out now, which is all based on, you know, the alternative past of like between the prequels or the least. Yeah, all the first of these titles and they're great. Yeah, buddy mine did the novel of that I think

I thought though you took a screen of Kate and they have a thing where they killed Chubaka and not only did you Bokka killed hand solo shot Chubaka He was he was still he was still stuck over that whole Grito thing exactly This time I'm shooting first I want to look at the whip There was like some alternative paths where when they're raiding the base and endword in return to the Jedi That your character who's not really part of canine comes in and holds took you know the Chewbacca up by the neck when And Han Solo shoots him by accident and then the guy chokes out Han Solo. How does he kill Han Solo? I didn't play it. It's terrible It's it's murderousous okay to a fan of it

So I probably won't do it. Yeah, so yeah, so don't do that DLC of that. Okay, if you ever play it, but I'm sure the holocron guy at Lucas approved it like approved So that you and I keep hearing about a new Superman movie are they doing a new Superman movie? Oh, yeah It's visionary director is that Snyder is doing it. Oh, yeah, yeah I think anyone that's described themselves as a visionary might want to rethink things a little bit. Chris was I'm presenting information without comments or the motion. But you never know and it just seems like I really wish for the Superman movies that people could get beyond the origin story. I know it's ridiculous.

Everyone really I mean it's not about it's some obviously people identify beyond the origin story i know it's ridiculous everyone really i mean some about it some obviously people identify with that origin story but you know you see it they did a really good job of that in the terrible uh new Hulk movie yeah the Edward or where they told his origin in the opening time yeah yeah they were dumb with it in two minutes yeah that was done really well in the movie went to shit but it was great for that part. I think if you went to maybe the poorest part of Sub-Saharan Africa, you might find somebody that doesn't know where Superman came from. But you know, in basically the rest of the world, first and second, I guess, we all know. You could just tell that story.

Do you like the non-established superhero stuff? Like, did you like Megamind? Did you see that in the movie? I love that movie. Do you like the non-established superhero stuff? Did you like Mega Mine? Did you see that in the movie? Oh, I love that movie. That's great. I think Mega Mine is one of the best Superman stories ever. No, I agree. I thought it was fantastic.

I love the fact that he got, you know, well, I actually had a kid give away the twist in that movie. Oh, no. Like in the movie, because I won't do it. I won't give it away for people who haven't seen it. But you should see it. And that's some dopey kid in front of me like shout it out. We got already seen it We picked up the DVD a few weeks ago and it comes with that as all the dream works things do now like the extra DVD with a short on it

Uh-huh and my kid and I probably watched Megamind the button of doom. I think 20 times the past two weeks. Oh really? I'll have to see that but that's pretty good. That's interesting. Yeah. I can't say what it's about without spoiling what Megaman is about, but it's what happens next. Oh really? Okay. Yeah. Cool. It's good. Yeah. I was great. I really liked it. I like, I was like weird like alternative sports stuff and always alternative superheroes stuff. And it really bugged me though in the 90s when they kept putting out superhero movies for superheroes I had heard of like tank girl, you tanker or college into comic movies. What are these movies? Why are they making like Batman?

It seems like that was a lot of the way they started right? A lot of the early comic movies were like that. Like I'm trying to think what was the first comic, I mean they may know they made Superman in the 70s. Well that means Batman, the keyton Batman's in the 80s. But you're going even back further than that? Yeah. I don't even know that.

No, no, no. What was the first Superman movie? It was a 76, 77? Yeah, I think so. 77, 78, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, as it's compared to who? Brindon Ruth? There's also the guys in the 50s series, you know, in the TV series. Yeah, he's the best. Who's your favorite Batman? Oh, gosh, fell Kilmer? No.

It's either Kilmer or Kilnie, I don't know, that's a tough one. You know what I mean? You should ask you this. You like Christian Bailey, you like Michael Keaton. I have very nostalgic memories of Michael Keaton and W.S. I can watch it, it doesn't necessarily hold up. Christian Bailey you like Michael Keaton. I have very nostalgic memories of my Keaton and I can watch it that doesn't necessarily hold up Christian Bailey does a very good job. Although I do like Christian Bailey. I think better is Bruce Wayne Which so he's tough like I think Christopher made it made a great Clark Kent, you know For the problems whenever the I think Clooney made the best Bruce Wayne you think so like I don't think it was a great Batman

But he was a fantastic Bruce Wayne Yeah, I can see that he is kind kind of bruised Wayne-ish himself. Yeah. The Batman's tough though. Like, Christian Bales Batman's a little tough for me. Yeah, his, his, his, his, his, inconsistent voice.

What does he say? Perdue me or whatever. Everyone can do that voice. Rod. Or has some version of that voice. When Christian Bales kind of scary enough as it is. Well, he's, he's horse from yelling at like gaffers. Exactly. Yeah, he's, he's, yeah, he's he's horse from yelling at like gaffers. Exactly. Yeah he's

also since he can shape-ship externally I'm sure he can reform his larynx as well. Right. To like make all these strange noises and voices. That's pretty crazy. We talked about a couple weeks ago. We talked about how Christian Baylor just like well drop 90 pounds for a roll and then just put it back on. For the machinist roll he got down to like 120 pounds. Crazy. Matt Damon does that a lot too no Matt Damon did it once yeah and he damaged his gold blood he so he doesn't do that he's pretty pudgy now like did you see oh yeah he does that yeah yeah we all do that that's called the holiday yeah that's the long play but he dropped Matt Damon dropped a ton of weight for that

mag Ryan a bad movie courage under fire that's it. Yeah and he played a soldier who it was HIV positive so he dropped like 50 pounds by the park. I think that makes those people crazy. Yeah I think I think yo yo amp now like that we'll just make you nuts. That's I'm gonna say that from now on too. That's why I just named this weight. When you lose that when you lose that much weight you're probably eating next to nothing so I'm sure that definitely affects your thought process. Christian Bale said that for the machine is he ate basically an apple in a cup of coffee

a day. Thank God he wasn't the flash. Exactly. The flash has coffee with apples. It's okay. It's okay. Apple pie. Okay, cool. Chris, thanks for coming to talk to us. Happy to be here. It's always a pleasure to see you. And why don't you tell us how can people get your books? stores There you go. Go to go your local comic book store. Oh, you could even get them in regular bookstores if you know for as long as they last But shouldn't they support the the stores the local Yeah, you should go to your local comic shop and give them money

I have but if you live in a place where there isn't one start one or go to Barnes and Noble Yes, start the worst business model of all time Where you and your friends can help out. All right, cool. All right. Well, thanks again, Chris. And we'll talk to you later. Sounds good. Thank you. Tata.

OK, we're back. Always insightful, Chris Robertson. It was good having him. Is that our first interview? I think it might be our first like, yeah. We had a guest on the show. We had DMZilla on the show. Yeah.

From Xbox Live. Oh, right. And we've had other people here. We've had like Dan sit in before. Yeah, from Xbox Live. Right. And we've had other people here. We've had like Dan sit in before. Yeah, but that's I don't count him. Yeah, exactly. You should be very careful about the words that you use, guys, because you just said had Dan sit in. And we actually had a request this week again for someone else to just sit in on the podcast. Right. And there's a reason why we can't do that. Yeah. Just have guests come in and I mean not guests on the podcast But just guess I just want to come sit here and watch us make the podcast. Yeah, we

We say a lot of inappropriate stuff a lot of steel well Well, not not exactly but we know I think the one of the the issues that we have here is that The especially the tone of the drunk tank and some of the other things that we do is that it's kind of like a hangout place it seems like, but people don't realize that we actually have security measures at this company. And I don't think they understand that when they show up, which is one of the main reasons why for RTX, a tour is a component of that event. Because it's a very controlled way for us to give a tour and we know we can have people at the office on this weekend and we can control what's in the company at that point.

I will have security to bust their ass. Actually, you... I just hate when people drive here from Kansas and they don't understand why they just can't come in and hang out for six hours. Right, hours of time. Or, yeah, a couple days even or whatever yeah, and it's really it's it's a it's a really odd experience tells me sorry we can't we can't just hang out for like four or five hours we can't even let you in past this lobby you know you can come in beyond this there's things that we work with that were told we can't show to people we're under in the a for a myriad. And then we feel, and it makes me feel like an asshole, like I'm disappointing somebody because they, and, but... Well, not only that, but, um, you've to consider the time that it takes out of the day, just to get work done, taking, like, taking a break and showing somebody around. Well, if you want to make it all about you, sure, I guess.

Yeah, I'm not talking about you, I'm not talking about you, because I never run the tours, but the person who walks somebody around is missing like a half hour out of their day. Right. Well, especially if you're working on something that is not for general public consumption, because we work on other things besides our stuff as well. And it's the person, you can't just sit at their elbow at the inner office while they're working on that thing, you know, it's just, it's not the way the environment works.

And I don't know how we, I don't know how to put that out there without seeming like assholes. Well, if you think about any other company anywhere, like you can't usually just walk in and hang out for too long, they usually have, I mean, any company usually has like a sitting area that's sort of open to the public and you don't go into the main inter offices. Yeah. I do this on my doctor.

I go from room to room with him and like, what's wrong with this dude? Even this conversation makes me feel like a jerk somehow. Yeah, no, I know what you mean it does It does what the oh And I just how awkward to be if someone was sitting here We actually we have another hire here at the company. Yeah, we do and she begins working for us on Friday Oh really 9 a.m. When does she get a desk and she will be disappointed when she's here at 9 company. Yeah, we do. And she begins working for us on Friday, 9 a.m. When does she get a desk? And she will be disappointed when she's here at 9 and everyone else is here at 10.

So she's going to show up and then immediately go to weekend. We're for a day and then woo. Yeah, I figured you know if she's going to come on her first day, Friday would probably be the best day. We have, we're getting our receptionist at Richard Heath. I'm very excited. I almost said the name of our old company for some reason. We're all grown up now. Are we? Yeah, we got a receptionist. I was going to mention that earlier, but I wasn't sure how much you were talking about it yet, but that's cool. It's going to be like, ring. Hello, Ristartyth, this is receptionist talking. Hey, man,

help you. Do I have to change the phone system so that it rings to her or that it gets to anybody? I never even call the company with the number because I can never navigate it. I just go to cell phones. That's the point. That's kind of intentional. When we set it up this way, there were some people in the company who protested, they were like, this can be inconvenient for people calling. That's kind of the point. Yeah. No one's complaining since really. Yeah. I went to him when we were when we were getting ready for the Doom immersion, I called id software up in Dallas or up in Mesquite.

Because I wanted to see instead of griffin taking all that time to make all those props, I thought they probably have mockups of these things and might be willing to contribute them to the production. So I called id to see if I could talk to somebody about that. Their phone system was definitely a barrier for sure. Oh yeah. In fact, it was, if you're calling for this, thanks,

but here's where you go to do that, especially for jobs. Yeah. But then there was a whole section of the end, which is, if you're calling because you have some kind of incredible overnight investment for us, thank you, we're not interested. If you're calling again about the overnight investment, thank you, we're not interested. So they must again about the overnight, you know investment Thank you. We're not interested so they must get a lot of investor calls I guess so I would assume that once you get a couple of magazine articles written about you

Where you're making millions and millions of dollars on your video game that you just become a target for these guys in New York New Jersey to just call constantly for awesome overnight overseas investment those Yankees. Yeah, why they got to be New York in New Jersey That's where all those calls come from yeah trust Jersey? That's where all those calls come from. Yeah. Trust me, that's where all those calls come from. It's the financial center of the world. It's a dry sake. I mean, New York is the goddamn center of the universe, right?

Pretty good. It's just, it's right. Anyone who's from that area thinks that New York is the fucking greatest thing on earth. Oh, yeah. Okay, but I think living in Texas that we can't really, they're not one to talk either. I mean, you look at in texas it's named

lonesdare this or texas that like we are pretty self-obsessed to down here no not on the level of day are though well i don't think we're we're competing for the same sort of the same universe it's different yeah i'm not saying we're competing for the same kind of like you know if i don't know if kichuena would have happened got for bit in new york the new yorkers would have built a ladder to God to make him explain how he could do that To the center of the earth. I mean you can argue did

I get well, how so 9-11? Yeah, I guess that's for me I mean it's it and look at the look at the repercussions of 9-11 versus Katrina I mean 9-11 changed the whole fucking world Katrina didn't change all that much, you know way to have a good point I mean there's two different things and you can react differently to them, but it's not like after Katrina America didn't become this crazy ecological, you know, where all of a sudden we have all these laws associated with environment and building codes and all that. That did not happen, you know.

We went in a totally different direction when something happened in New York. It's true. You know, which is, it is the most popular city in New York. It does create a lot of culture as well, but I think that's right. It's a little startling when people come outside of New York and they don't understand what everyone isn't just excited about New York. When I go to other places, I know people aren't excited about Texas. People are here, people in Texas are very proud of it, but I don't go to New York and

when people talk about Texas being stupid, because it's in the south or something like that, or even like they talk about it's being racist, I'm just like, I'm sure that's just what they think about Texas. It doesn't. Yeah. Yeah. You know, yeah, because Texas is a racist. By the way, let's go to little Italy for dinner.

Yeah. How about Chinatown? Chinatown. Chinatown. Yeah. That's not racist at all. No, that's historic. Come on.

It's totally different. Yeah, that's not racist at all. No, that's historic So did you hear that I guess the other day Or maybe it was the other week there was a an app on the on one of the Android markets I guess Android phones have multiple markets. Oh my god. But regardless. There was an app that you could buy in the legitimate market called Walk in text which would allow it, like, activated your camera while you were texting, so you wouldn't run in a shit. I see that. But you could also download it illegally. You could pirate it from one of these other illegal app stores.

I call that drive in text, by the way. But if you downloaded the pirated version, it really wasn't that app. All that the pirated app did was it went through your contacts and texted everyone saying that you're a pirate and that you stole that app and that you're stupid and cheap. So, wait, did the developer make that? People did some, they backtraced it. And they think that it was also the developer of the legitimate app who made the pirate app as well.

Didn't they also have a problem recently where they had an app that was infected with malware? Yeah. And caused a lot of problems? Yeah, they had an app that was infected with malware. And caused a lot of problems. Yeah, they had to pull it off of the app store. People bitch about Apple's stringent development policies, but you don't see that stuff happening on the iPhone store. No, you just get the gank here app.

That's true. Did anyone ever look at that thing and see what it was? I heard about it supposedly it just like it just sends you links to like religious tracks on a website There is no like actual gator in the app It was how misleading yeah, it was kind of misleading It's shame did it cure any gayness today. I don't know. That's a good mine I haven't installed it That's in good mind. I don't know. I don't know the same way. I haven't installed it. Nice duck cocks, constantly.

I wish it was still the source, so I could cure this gayness that I have of me. I don't know if you saw, but there was a, an April Fool's joke that I guess the, uh, a newscaster pulled in San Diego, where he made a fake story saying that there was a new app and new technology for, uh, the iPhone that allowed you to smell and taste stuff on your phone. I'll get to do a sniff it or lick the screen. And he convinced one of the other anchors to start smelling an iPad and lick it to try to get it. Did they, did they like play along and pretend like it worked?

No, they were like, I don't smell it. I don't taste it. It's nothing. And then they just started laughing at her. Wow. That's really funny. I would bust it. I would smash that iPod over the cut.

Yeah, she was super embarrassed. She got up and left the desk. And like started walking away. It was off-cavish. She's like, that's it. You can do the rest of He was super embarrassed. She got up and left the desk. I started walking away. I put it off. She's like, that's it. You can do the rest of the show by yourself. That did she hold it for hand to cover the teleprompter? Like you playing loud. I don't worry that's anyway. It did not work the same way. You know, we have the guys upstairs created the Angry Birds trailer.

You mean the computer thieves? The computer thieves upstairs who needed to render their Angry Birds trailer. They uh the computer thieves? The computer thieves upstairs who needed to render their Angry Birds trailer. They, that was rendered on my fucking computer too. You know the Angry Birds trailer is now the number one video in terms of views on our YouTube channel. Yes, and congratulations. That's awesome.

That's really great. Yeah, and I think it's, at this point, it's over four million views. Yeah. We should talk about that podcast, the reaction from the Rebecca Black conversation that we had this week. But anyway, one of the things about the Angry Birds

show is a very broad concept. A lot of people know what Angry Birds is. So as a result of that, it got picked up by a lot of local news feeds, like two or three days after it was out. And it was always interesting to see those things come up in Google Alerts and watch local news highly entertaining. First of all, they don't, even after all this time,

they don't understand what the internet is. They definitely don't understand what a company like Rucherti does or how it operates, because to hear them talk about us was just ridiculous. Some of them, I heard one of them say that our company was based around making app parodies. Right. Some of them don't understand that you can play games

on your phone. They're like, wait, I'm sorry, it's a game, but it's on your cell phone Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's an app. I don't know what an app is But you're telling me you can play a game on your phone not make calls, but play a game But the weird thing is they know all the words and they say all the words and all the terms They just don't make sense in the way that they say them. It's like that lady who was outside the Grammys It sounds like someone talking, but it just doesn't make any sense. It's like I mentioned, I think I mentioned this in the podcast several months ago, but

I was watching one of the local news affiliates one night, and the guy, the anchor, you know, looks at the camera and says, you can get the news anytime on your phone. Just go to the APP store and download us. And it's like the guy I was saying no clue what you saying They just trying to do the best you can it's like that today interview with Bryant Gumball Right where they talk about the internet. What is internet? What is internet? I heard it's like a meme When I first realized that the world was passing by most of those people was I don't know We've talked about this before but there was some point when I was watching the NFL playoffs and it was Pat Summaryl and

John Madden and they were talking about the upcoming Super Bowl and John Madden said, find out more about Super Bowl, you can go to Super Bowl dot com in Pat Summaryl goes Super Bowl dot com, what's that John? He goes, that's the way they told me to say it, Super Bowl dot com. He goes, what do you think of, what do you think a dot com is, Pat? And Pat goes, I have no idea. He goes, where would you go to get a dot com? Where would you go of what do you think a dot com is pat and pack us i have no idea he goes where would you go to get a dot com where's your impact several scus well

i'd rather report straight is to be this is like ninety seven ninety eight that they had this conversation and i wish i could find that thing i've looked everywhere trying to find that stupid-ass conversation but that actually happened i heard it on television. I wonder if you can buy like old Super Bowls on DVD from the NFL, like from NFL.com. Well, this was before the Super Bowls. It was definitely a playoff game.

Oh, it was a playoff game. Yeah, and they were getting ready to gear up for their Super Bowl promotion. And I wish I could have had that recorded. But even at the time, it was before, people were posting that kind of stuff online. Right. I'm always happy to see when something like that, Brian Gummel conversation, does make its way online, eventually. Yeah. And they pulled that video, I think, unfortunately. The Brian Gummel thing they did to take down it.

That's it then. Oh, that lost revenue from a 20 year old today show segment where the anchors don't understand the internet. Well, it doesn't make them look really stupid. And a lot of people don't have the perspective of history when they watch it in 2011, you know. I mean, when you ask, what is the internet? I mean, what is the internet? What is internet?

What is internet? It's like looking at a law cat with a caption, what is internet? What in this guy? How does it eat food? I'm sorry, but I can find this thing. So we found out last night that apparently I guess Dixies barbecue up in Kirkland close for good. Man That's really sad. That is super super. I was into pressing I'm bummed. Yeah. It's bumming. It is bumming. I guess You know, Gene Porter died last year. I guess after his death his wife and his his daughter continued the restaurant But his daughter passed away in February and I guess they close death his wife and his his daughter continued the restaurant, but his daughter passed away in February

And I guess they they close the restaurant after that sad man and we've talked about dixies before on the podcast But essentially it was really cool because this guy gene porter who is this caged dude in the middle of Seattle where was he to coma? Kirkland Kirkland Kirkland and Admittedly the barbecue wasn't all that great. great, you know, but it was good for Seattle and the spirit of the place was awesome. It was 100% about the experience. Yeah, yeah.

I went one time, but he wasn't there. So I just had some bad barbecue. Yeah, he was starting to appear less and less. We found some great videos on the internet. I'll put in the link up and I'll send to you of him and the establishment. We tried a new place this over the weekend. We did in Austin You want to talk about it? No, we don't since we don't ever do this anywhere. Yeah, there's real quick though There's an animated drum tank adventure about the man, right?

Yeah, there is yeah, it's just about the papers on the wall and everything. It's in one of the The bus Yeah, it's easy. He's white and like cartoon because we never specified or whatever. Oh really? Yeah, you do, dude. So he must have found a picture of the guy. Did he? Because I thought it was a different. I thought it looked like Mr. Jean Porter. I don't think I've seen that one.

Anyway, I had this hot sauce that he would bring around in a pan and he would serve it to you. But you should link in the link dump that Drunk Tank animated adventure. Yeah, and there's a picture. Oh, I'll link as well of the man. Someone took a picture of the pot with with the hot sauce in it and it captures What we've always talked about where the hot sauce looks like it absorbs light right touches it and it makes it dense and black and scary It's pretty scary. I mean I'm excited to hear about this I don't have any memory of going someplace new. Oh, we went to the butter pot butterfly bar

Oh, then you bar that opened up in the vortex which is my favorite theater in town. It's true. But they have a really great yard. But, uh, I have no one to what she's talking about. I think you actually went into a vortex. I don't know. I don't recognize any of the names she said. There's a, uh, there's a theater on Maynard, a warehouse theater, not like, uh, like Michael Bay exploding stuff theater, but like, you know, Beltaine ritual kind of shan, is that Shannon's voice? Uh, next, no, yeah, it's next to it. It's salvaged my guards right on the road. Yeah, I see. But anyway, they opened a bar.

Yeah, well, they've always had like a little cafe and they've been trying to get going, but, um, they switched management and then like an entrepreneur in town, like opened up a bar there. And it's awesome. No, that's a trick to get guys to go to the theater. Hey, let's go to this new bar. They've got alcohol. Jim's drinking is like, why the lights blinking? Let's all go in this room.

That you would have loved it. That literally happened. We went to the theater. It was a closing night of a show. The bar. And I ordered like a beer. And we go and we sit down outside at a picnic table at the bar. And then your favorite thing in the world happened. Fire dancing. Yeah. It's broke out. Literally a girl jumped up on the on the picnic table where I was sitting like a foot from me and was like Attention here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and then it was like fucking fire that's a here. Yeah, something kind of like something Oh my god, she's like like strike types and like

Do you have a scroll that she? She's gonna cute though. Yeah, is she yeah, huh. I really didn't think that would be your type at all. Oh, lawn chicks and typos. I'm not jealous. I'm just surprised. Yeah. She seemed a little bit wacky for you. Yeah. Why didn't want a marryer? Is there any better indication of high maintenance than standing on a table yelling here? Yeah. There was actually a guy juggling before that happened. I guess he was just like, I didn't even notice him doing this. Why didn't you just juggling? He kept juggling really close to our I guess he was just like, I didn't even know what he was juggling. He kept juggling really close to our table, it was actually kind of scary.

I'm telling this to the children. You throw in a couple of menstruals, you've got me. I'm sold. I'm sold. But there's going to be a maple. There is, the thing about the seagull, I love it. You maybe go to the maple festival. Yeah, oh god, he was the worst.

You can't bring Jeff to a pagan ritual and have him not known. I had the most fun I've ever had my entire life sitting at that picnic table. Jeff to a pagan ritual and have them not I Had the most fun I've ever had my entire life But they ask you laughing at those people when you're walking in they ask you if you're gonna enter with perfect love and trust and you totally let them down Did you lie did you enter under false pretense? I got I didn't realize it circle and then made fun of the circle Did you enter under false pretenses? I got that I didn't realize it circle and then made fun of the circle Oh, man. Don't fuck with the circle. You're gonna get cursed. I'm gonna tell you right now There was about 65 people in that circle. They could not kick my ass No, but they don't get ribbons to wrap you up

They wanted to they get cursed on you they could hex me maybe But yeah, you actually you were probably mad at me that then you ever been first of all the fact that I made you go And second all that we had millie there and you were like wait a second. This is religious You took me to taking our daughter to religious thing and you got so upset with me. I was a little annoyed As parents I mean we should talk about how we're gonna expose our child to like cutting off goats heads and drinking the blood Come on, that's not they just they just pour the blood on themselves They just get a blanket and tied up some ribbons. It wasn't like the end of the world.

Did you say they got naked in time? Some people are naked. Not people you don't want to see naked. Trust me. Really? It's called going sky-clad. Sky-clad? Is it really?

Yeah, that's what it's called. Do they like wrap themselves in clouds or something? Or do you know what the origin of that is? Why is it sky-clad? No, just from the witchcraft books I read in high school. I don't know why, I don't know the etymology. Because this guy doesn't wear clothes, Gus. Oh, well that just makes sense.

He does. You're clothed in the element of air. I will say that. Oh, okay, that makes a lot more sense. There was one chick there who got down in her bra, who I was so wishing would go sky-clad, but she never did. She was like, she was like, I was just like,'d go sky-clad but she never did. She was like, she was like, atmosphere-clad and I was just like, please go sky-clad.

Don't stop, don't stop at the tuning, I'm like a friend when sky-clad and nobody wanted that. Go trope-sphere. But the place is really great and the thing I love is that the only time we'll be using the word trope-sphere in the podcast. The great thing about word text, it just has a great space and it's in a great location off-manor, which is becoming a pretty cool place to hang out now. So it's nice that they have a place you can actually sit down and go and get a drink and not have to commit to two hours of theater if you're not into theater. This ad for the Butterfly Bar, Bratheed by Griffin Raysie.

Well, we talk about places in Austin and I like it. Can I point out that the lady who's running the butterfly bar is a lady that kicked Griffin out of an interview? Yeah, at her old. She had a place called Emerald City Press and I applied for a job there once when I was during the recession. And she came in, I was being interviewed

by one of her managers and she walked in and then I said, I made a joke that she didn't think it was funny and she asked me to leave. She goes, right, she didn't ask you to leave. She goes, I think it would be best if you just left now in the middle of the interview. What was the joke that you made? Oh, they had been robbed recently at KnifePoint and I made a joke about it. And I guess that was not the thing to do. Wow, that's awesome. What was the joke? Did

you leave? No, I don't know. It was in conversation. It was something along the lines of Griffin asked, do you guys ever have to worry about robberies? Because you know, you guys are like right off of Maine. They're afare. Yeah, I don't know. And she goes, well, we did just get robbed by knife, but recently, Ingrid said, well, something along lines of, boy, I guess they really wanted their coffee. Or whatever. Well, I didn't say, I don't know.

It was that, it was that lovely. It was that lovely, yeah. It was that, but I don't know what it was. Yeah, I'm sure it was. It was good enough not to get the fucking job. Yeah, yeah. Well, I didn't want that done. So why is the way it's the way it's the way it's just left?

So she says, I think we'd best if you just left. And then what did you do? I left. I mean, what are you supposed to do? You said, okay, and got up and walked up. Yeah. I'm not going to, I don't want her managing me. Did you go in the car and go, fuck, you were there for a job.

I think you're, I know. Well, here's the thing. I, when I job hunt, it takes me a while to get a job typically. Yeah. And I apply it pretty much every single place in town So it's at that point. I'm sure I've been rejected a lot of times leading up to it So I can deal with like job hunting rejection like I'm a job hunter There you go. Yeah, like it didn't really phase me

It was just weird because I've never happened to me But that's a different way that's a different level right? I was a little I was annoyed Yeah, you were annoyed you were mad at her but it but I didn't I got the impression that she was a little out there. And then I knew if that bothered her that she would not want to work with me and I wouldn't want to work with her. So I think it's good to find those things out before you get a job sometimes. Right. There you go.

But yeah, I think I probably was offended. I don't know. I was a while ago. You told me we could never get coffee there. Well, yeah, any place that doesn't hire me, I can't use any more. So it gets to be in two flight of two and he places. There was a place in San Marcos right by the college where we used to go and get coffee all the time

when we were dating and Griffin had applied for a job there one time and didn't get hired. And then years later, this is like three or four years later she was talking to the girl and the manager. The manager was like, oh yeah, I remember when you applied. I didn't hire you because you just seemed immature to me. And Griffin goes, okay, well that's fucking you you that's it. We're never going here again And so we would have to go across to the other side of San Marcos to get our coffee because we're no longer a lot of step foot and Joe on the go

Yeah, she also told me she didn't hire me because I was a tourist. She just doesn't get along Taurus did she really say that? How do you meet these people? I've never How does you know you're a tourist? Well, I don't avoid places that do fire dancing and stuff like that. What in the world? Does that some kind of discrimination? Well, you can tell a tourist pretty easily. Because of the horns? No, like the attitude and the personality.

Oh my God, guys, come on. Are you kidding me? Or are you fucking kidding me? I have never given a thought when I meet someone I never think I wonder what sign they are. Yeah, well that's very pices of you guys. So I guess you knew I was going to say that. I can tell I can tell how astrology does come in very handy though. This is actually a practical application of astrology.

Oh yeah. Is that whenever the subject of birthdays come like, hey today's my birthday. Random person that you're in conversation with, I mean the group says, oh I didn't know you were Capricorn, that they know all the astrological signs and the dates on which they fall, stay away from that person. Yeah, that's what I learned, is like I don't want to talk to that person or marry them. I'm gonna give you a date, and see if you can tell me the actual. I'm actually not, I'm only good like in certain months that I'm, because I tend to meet like people in clusters, like I'll meet a bunch of Leo's at once.

I'm not going to go. How about June 18th? June 18th is Gemini, right? Yeah, because I tend to meet people in clusters, like I'll meet a bunch of Leo's at once. How about June 18th? June 18th is Gemini, right? Yeah, because you're 19th of your Gemini. I just don't know when the cutoff is, but yeah. There we go. No, no one was kind of a slam dunk. That was a slam dunk. That was kind of a trap, everyone.

Jeff's birthday is June 19th. There you go. So yeah, I remember your birthday too. Thanks, I appreciate that. June 18th is our anniversary. Is it? Yeah. Just keep that in mind when you're gift shopping. Okay, well here that are anniversary? Is it? Yeah. Just keep that in mind when you're gift shopping.

Okay, well here's your work days coming up next week. And I know, or two weeks or now? Sometimes it's not. What's today? Well, my birthday is April 20th. How old are you? Are you upset about your birthday? I'm just not, I'm getting less excited about my birthdays.

Oh, really? We won't bring it up then. Well, let's bring it up. We're gonna have a special birthday podcast. We're gonna bring it up. Yay, it's your birthday. I don't, I don't care like are you excited to turn? Shut up. I've already taught millie what to start calling me though like really knows like all the different numbers and like around what people like what how old her mom is

So she's awesome. So I'm teaching her a new kind of math Mommy math you gotta watch out with what kids say. Yeah, you should just teach her to refer to you as your big as her big sister Yeah, you should just teach her to refer to you as your big as her big sister. We were crossing the border. We went to RV, BTO last summer and I took my kids with me and we were crossing from Canada into America. And the, the guy was just kind of grilling us a little bit and I was just like, you know, we're just going back to the US. We're from Texas.

We're going to go into New York and we're going to catch a plane and go back to Austin. But we were actually going to come back into Toronto to catch our plane back out of there. I don't know, it's just one of the things where I just said it because it was easier to say why we're going. Right, and go on some long explanation. Exactly right. Yeah. We're going into Rochester. So I said, we're just going down New York to catch our plane and go back to Austin.

And my kid for the back seat goes, that's not true. Oh my God. But the Maxi goes that's not true My god, so we actually we actually three miles away from the border station had to pull over on the side of highway Heady look you shut your mouth around You don't rat out. It was like an episode of good fighters. It seemed from good fellows. I look you just shut your mouth Yeah, we had to have your lumps. We had to never, never rat on your friends. We had to have the conversation with Millie that when mommy and daddy talk in the car, that stays in the car. We never talk about it outside the car. And that we're like team Ramsey and we have to stick with our team. Yeah. Yeah.

We introduce your kid to somebody like, Oh, this is our friend. So it's so, and they're like, Oh, you're the idiot. Yeah. A lot. Exactly. But we should learn to, when you take Jeff to a bar like War Text, we are insufferable. If you put us, any of us, me, Gus, or Jeff,

in a situation that we don't like, we don't just like, we don't roll with it forever. It's not a why. We should be better about that, but we don't. We're just like, I find the way to have fun. I want to wait to entertain myself. Yeah, I think it any I don't know what that phrase means though. I it's fine like at any other time Um, but I didn't it didn't occur to me that I was I just I don't know I should have thought better because I knew that I know that you're you and that you're gonna continue to be you

And I shouldn't hold it against you because I love you, but I shouldn't take you to like respectful religious ceremonies Yeah, things that you can like, get into. Like, I remember after I left your wedding, I remember that everyone was upset with me because I heckled your magician. You left, you pulled away because he started mess up and you don't like to watch people mess up. And when I was heckling at first,

yeah, you pulled yourself out of the situation. No, there was someone else who was doing way more heckling. Oh yeah. That was somebody who eclipsed you. Who heckled him? Uh, Zach. Oh, and uh, Draftous guy, Henry. Did he? I don't you who heckled him Zach oh and a draft house guy Did it I don't want to slander him but he was coming man

I'm just a bit a lot of people like so I was thinking of Kent no there were a lot of people that wow god Yeah, I felt bad that poor kid he was like he was 12 and he was still a professional entertainer He should be good at magic he would have been fine if he didn't bring his mom as his assistant. She was awful She got in there half an hour late. Yeah. She sat on the stage and smoked a cigarette while he made bubbles. It was not really that- And then she could have asked him how to do tricks.

And it's like, you should know this boo. The best part about that kid was the phone call. He was great, by the way. But he's probably 20 now, too. But the phone call, where we call the Hiram, goes, uh, yes, I'm available on that date, will it, will the crowd be under six or over six? And we go, there'd probably be about 30, 35 and he goes, I don't know. I see. Yeah. There'd be less than nine people or more than nine. And we go, they're probably about 120 and he goes that will be fun

so I think that I think he maybe should have changed this program because the bubble stuff doesn't impress 35 rules like that is that people under five political jokes too he was great yeah he was pretty funny but I think that he actually anyone that's 12 and like that focused already it's gonna be great oh absolutely that guy will do well in life whatever wherever he ends up he's do well in life whatever wherever he is He's doing well in life. He's probably yeah Forever he's the amazing Ray I'm looking at the amazing Ray right now. Yeah, and it looks like he's still operating as the amazing Ray. That's great

He might be committed to the name. He might be in Orlando, Florida Which wow, it's him wow. We get him all grown up. Oh cool Good for him. Well, if you're gonna go anywhere the best place to go if you're the amazing Ray is Orlando I yeah, what a great That hack Harry Potter Yeah, I mean you think magicians are upset about the whole sorcery Do I put the lightning bolt on my forehand to go to the show? Harry Potter like fuck they it's like do I put the lightning bolt on my forehead to go to the show

I'm gonna be that guy Just painted into the crowd. Can I get the fake glasses the fake circles glasses, but if you're in magic You got to be in Orlando. You got to be in Las Vegas, right? Yeah, I have to be yeah, it's cool He's so focused. That's that's awesome. I'm glad he's he's stuck with it. Yeah, congratulations, right? Sure somebody from New York City listening to this podcast going, we have great magic in New York. Broadway is the magic capital of the world. There's probably some magician and Reno right now going, oh, what is the deal with Reno?

It's the biggest little city in America, right? Is that what they call themselves? Is it Northern Nevada? Yeah, I think so. How is it? It's like two hours away from Vegas. Do you know what the population is? No. You don't? What's wrong with you? I'm sorry. 68,000. Oh, that's a capricorn. So what if you're going to go to a gambling experience in the US, which is worse? Is it worse going to Atlantic City? Or is it worse going to Reno? I think it's worse to go to Reno. I think it's worse to go to Reno.

Because at least when in Atlantic City they can make the claim that, hey, we're the East Coast version of Vegas. If you can't travel all the way across to Vegas. Plus, also, they're a lot closer to New York. And they're a lot closer to New York, which by proxy makes them great. And, and you make some way there. And you make some way there. Yeah.

As opposed to Reno, it's like I couldn't make the extra two hour drive to Vegas. In Reno though, I think they have legalized prostitution, right? Don't they in all of Nevada? Yes, but not in Vegas. What? Do you see them upset? No, I just, that doesn't make any sense to me. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that that's not worse.

Why would you expect that? That's not worse. Why would you expect that? Vegas if the entire state allows prostitution. Because they're trying to get people who visit Vegas to go to the rest of the state. Because they make more money when it's illegal. There you go. Probably.

Yeah, and they're still going to get business there, right? Mm hmm. Also, you never know. Like, let's say, let's say Las Vegas did have legalized prostitution. Let's see that actually happened. I think a big part of Las Vegas is that people go on fun trips with their friends there. And a lot of times like a lot of guys, I know we go on guy trips to Las Vegas. That would be a lot harder sell to my wife if it was known as like a pro the prostitution capital of the US.

That's a great point. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it kind of has that smart of them. Yeah, it is. I mean, wow. How far out of city limits? We're never thought about that. Does the prostitution start? I think it's just, it might be the county. Also, let's be honest, it's illegal, but it's not illegal. It's not illegal. It's illegal. it's illegal but it's not illegal yeah I'm pretty sure that you could very easily find a prostitute at any bar like you have got me out of letting you go to bed you've never been a Vegas had a lot of guys on the street who like flick little cards and give them to you and they're basically like pictures of escorts with phone numbers oh nice Jeff you would like

Vegas I knew Gus I would know I didn't know about the free cards They're everywhere though. They'll handle like kids unfortunately They're yes and then they and they'll wear shirts with like girls names and phone numbers as they're giving you the cards Yeah, it seems like a big business in Las Vegas now is to drive a truck that is a billboard Yeah, the truck itself is just a billboard. They drive up and down the strip All right, well, let's wrap this shit up before we go to law. Hey, can we figure out what the population of arena? I will look at the population of Reno, Nevada. Is it like Bernie? It's the driving most driving me crazy.

Where do you think I said 68,000? I'm going to say more than I think it's I'm going to say 250, 200,000. I don't know. What was your? I said 68,000. I recognize that's I'm gonna say 250 20,000 I don't know. What was your I said 68,000 I recognize that's gonna be way too long. I said 250 Okay 250 now are we doing that stupid rule where if you go over No, no, that's close. Why do they do that? It's that's like game show mentality. It's like the prices right But what is the mentality really behind that? I have no idea is that is that just like to break ties if someone's above or below So they don't have to quickly figure out who's closer to make it that much harder for a person to try to figure it I don't know somebody came up with that rule. Yeah, it makes sense to them if you go over your disqualification

The rule is probably in response to something too The rules probably put in place to fix some sort of an issue. Well, it's our shit. The population is 220,000 Oh, congratulations. I guess we're in fucking Reno expert. We're also cappacarian to so everyone knows. cappacarian? Yeah, it's a term I just heard that. What?

You're a cusp, right? A capacornic, a cusp? Yeah, I don't know. Yes, I think so. I remember that he's January 18th, so I'm like two days away from being you know, for the record. For the record. Uh, Thursday nights, Capacarians drink What the fuck any of this means. Yeah. You know what I do find it,

one thing I have noticed though, a trend, I have noticed, I'm like my last week when I had my stupid celebrity women, don't get married, trends. We were all, but I have noticed a trend, and I wanna see if it's relevant in your lives as well, where if you're in a family, like I'm the youngest kid in my family,

my wife is the youngest kid in her family. Her sister, the oldest kid in her family. Her sister, the oldest kid in her family, married my brother-in-law Mark, who plays Delta on reverse blue. He's the oldest kid in their family. The younger kids and families tend to go with younger kids and families. Well, I think that they say that there's a whole psychology behind each what, what, what are the kids are born in. And I can see that like you can tell like somebody who's the oldest or a year and only child but that's they say that they're recently like the oldest children. Well I am the oldest child. And I'm the oldest in my family.

Yeah, my wife and I are the oldest children in our families. Yeah, but I think that it's a mental difference. Of course, I don't think that- The most important thing that really affects you I think is where you fall relatively in your family? Where you're the one doing the bullying or you're the one receiving the bullying at a young age. God, I get the shit bullied out of me when I was a kid by my older brother.

Terrible. Before we wrap up, did you want to mention something about the Rebecca Black video? Oh, just that it was cool that Benny Sinkil was the name of the girl in pink who put up that question answer thing and so many people showed up and we always get annoyed when they do this, but they write in the comments of a video where we send them, they write drunk tank over and over again. Well I guess she saw that and responded in her YouTube video. Yeah I guess she was like oh drunk tank, haha thanks thanks for the thanks to the guys in the

drunk tank for mentioning me so nicely. And you did watch the video right? Yeah she's very well spoken. I told you I told you she's handling that very very well. Yeah well it's great. She's like totally adjusted, totally cool girl. I would say you should make that very very well. Yeah, that's great. She's like totally adjusted totally cool girl I would say you should make that a case study of how you should handle adversity like on a press level or a PR level But it doesn't seem like there's any bad way to handle that now like you look at Charlie C. Sheen you look at Tiger Woods It's just just wait just time it eventually goes away. Just wait Paris Hilton You see the latest thing they just hit with Paris Hilton mm-hmm. She got caught on tape saying incredibly terrible things and

Doesn't matter that was a long time ago. It was a long time ago in the club. Yeah, yeah, but it just hit Like the video just came out like two weeks ago. Oh, it was a two weeks ago. Yeah, and it doesn't it doesn't matter No, I don't think so. I think that video had been around like but it doesn't matter She still said those things whenever she said them. Yeah, I just't think so. I think that video had been around like, but it doesn't matter. She still said those things whenever she said them. Yeah, I just saw, I just saw it, getting reported like all over the place, all it was. I can't remember the last time a PR nightmare

derailed somebody. I mean straight up, that's it. They went away because of that. Well, I mean, some people go away for a while, you know, like Mel Gibson. Pat O'Brien went away for a while. Mel Gibson was the lead in a movie at South by Southwest. Oh really?

The Viva, yeah. Clayton Williams. He was a guy running for governor of Texas against Ann Richards. He's the guy who in front of the press, he was leading the governor's race. Then like a month before the election, he told a bunch of reporters that if a woman's getting raped, she should just sit back and enjoy it. Oh my God. The event got rained out.

He was having a press event and there was inclement weather. And he said in his good old boy way, he said, fellas, he goes, weather's a lot like rape. If it's inevitable, just lay back and enjoy it. Oh, okay. That's a little bit different.

That's essentially the same thing. Also, we shouldn't be making light of rape if you're a politician. In an election. Yeah. It was during an election. Probably it's a good rule never to make fun of rape or take it lightly. Yeah. But for anybody.

Yeah, he lost the election and you never heard another thing about him again after that. He'd raised a lot of money in telecom too, quite in Williams. I can't think of anyone else. Yeah. The biggest one that I always think too is like the biggest difference in time is I think about Gary Hart, who was a dude who was like going to be president of the United States. Yeah, the biggest one that I always think too is like the biggest difference in time is you I think about Gary heart who was a dude who was like gonna be president of the United States He was gonna run against Reagan like 84 right? Yeah, he was huge and a picture of him came out with

A girl on his lap in front of a boat Jessica Han was it? No, I was a no I think you really might have been Jessica, but it was just a picture of this girl very pretty girl sitting on his lap in front of a boat called the Name of the boat was the monkey business. I remember that that picture. He was out. He's like his career dead Dead is a door no he was gonna be running for president. He was gone and then like you know seven years later Bill the whole Bill Clinton thing came up and it just it didn't affect him in any way really well Yeah, it's we're so dissensitized that stuff John McCain calling his wife a cunt on camera. Oh, man, you know, I forgot about that Look at John Edwards man John Edwards a great answer He has an affair in his wife who's has cancer and knocks up the other lady and it just and then divorces wife

Who's dying a cancer? It's just like you think like that would just be yeah, he'd be out of the picture now It was like it was a huge fucking deal when Clinton was being When Clinton was running because he smoked marijuana once but didn't inhale, right? And that was like that was gonna stay that was the thing they were gonna use to sink his career And then you get a guy like new gingert who has who like delivered his wife divorce papers While she was in the hospital recovering from cancer, you know, and she did on all three of his wives And he's just like yeah, I was in the past. It's not going to matter. It doesn't matter. Do you think that's a good sign or a bad sign?

I think that's a personal life can affect your personal life. I think it's a little bit of both probably. Yeah, I think it's good in the sense that we can't escape people knowing everything about us now. I mean, there's everyone, anyone with a phone can record you doing anything at any time. We should be worth smart. We need to keep planning these seeds that things you say in your personal life can affect you in the future. That way people can't hold shit. We should be worth smart. We need keeps planning these seeds that things you say in your personal life can't affect you in the future. That way people can't hold shit. We say here against us. The only thing that I think with politicians that it should matter for is if they have like a strong, if they, if their platform is family values and

things and they're cheating on their wife. It's like don't get another people's case about things that you can't even live up to. I always think thing with gay too, like that a guy who's staunchly anti gay and has anti gay policies and then it busted in a men's restroom somewhere. It's so strange. Yeah's just like, just stop pushing ideas that you don't even, you can't even live up to. And I think that's in any direction politically, like it doesn't have to be just, you know, one or the other. I have a hypocrisy at different level, right? Yeah. I think that's the problem. It's like the offense isn't the problem. It's the lack of common sense to think that you, A, you should try something like this

at the time that you're trying it. Like, why would John that would cheat on his wife, who always is running for president? that doesn't make any sense yeah it also yeah means that maybe they aren't they're not thinking are they they're making a decision like they don't make the best decisions right yeah yeah it's like okay i understand that you you know you had an affair or you had a twist with a dude but like why do it then you know what's a weird thing you've ever seen like that bad timing of just why aren't you paying attention there's a current one happening right now that I don't understand. Scott Walker, the governor of Wisconsin, who is in a battle right now to strip collective

bargaining rights from labor employees, it just came out that during this process, he hired the son of his biggest campaign donor, 26-year-old college dropout with 2 DUIs and zero management experience to hire him and gave him $82,000 a year job to manage like the local EPA and Environmental issues government job government job and he three months after working there gave me 26% raise It's like you know That's that's just retarded timing obviously those appointments happen obviously you do those things. That happens on both sides of the fence. I guarantee you Democrats are doing that kind of stuff too. But just like don't do it while you're taking

other people's rights away. And trying to make them pay more for healthcare and more for retirement and give them less rights. I was always amazed by when the economic meltdown happened a few years ago and we were bailing out and one of the big people being bailed out was AIG. And then while that big bailout was going and they were having this issue where they were going to go to business and they were too big to fail and the government was going to spend billions to bail them out. They had that event in Northern California

where it was a big five star resort and they invited everyone. Yeah, they were all, it was just a ridiculously decadent thing and I was like how can you possibly do this now? Yeah, they're right now and they said well, we have we've had this plan for months It's like who can't cancel the fucking event cancel it. Are you that stupid that you don't know to not go to that? Yeah, obviously I would go I would not show up on an individual base like I'm I'm smart enough to know that this is a bad thing. Yeah There was another one recently where I think it was Trans Ocean,

the company that owned the oil well that blew up in the Gulf, you know, BP oil well, gave out bonuses to all of their executive and talked about how 2010 was their safest year on record? No, I just read that, yeah. What? Yeah. What? Why are you kidding me?

It's like opposite day. They're like, I've got big bonuses and then like two days later, the executives I'll agree to give the bonuses to the families of the victims on the on the oil platform. And it's like, and then they were like, maybe our wording was bad about 2010 being our safest year ever. Maybe. Because people are fucking idiots. People are fucking idiots.

It's the same thing with the BP thing. After they're destroying the Gulf Coast and there's all these news stories showing fishermen going out of business, people crying and losing their livelihoods and then this ecological disaster and the BB guy went to the yacht race. Oh yeah. Yeah. It was insane. It was just, it's like, what was that? Oh, what did he say he hated his life and we're just trying to get away or something like that?

Why my life go back to New Orleans? Was that Tony Hayward? Is that the guy's name? That might have been his name. Tony, you were telling me about that power plant or whatever in Japan that was going to cover damages or whatever. Oh, did you read about that? Yeah.

Well, what's that company called? It's Teppco. Teppco. They've offered very graciously to pay all of the people, like a stipend who have been affected, directly affected, like the 20 communities that have been directly affected by the nuclear meltdown They're giving them all the equivalent of $12 He's a Japanese company. Yeah, it's a Tokyo electric power company. Yeah Yeah, they're often in 12 bucks ahead people go a lot of fucking pissed

Yeah, and meanwhile it's more insulting to offer anything at that point Yeah, just don't I mean come on meanwhile in the power plant Are these guys who have been working 50 dudes giving their lives up right now? Just to them. They're dead now. Yeah, two of them are right I didn't know that. Yeah, two of them are died and they're just there. I mean that you kind of hope Even if it's an illusion you want to have the idea that there are people working on this, you know like the the BP the idea that there are people working on this, you know, like the BP CEO or whatever his official title was. You just want to imagine that he's in a room somewhere with his shirt sleeves rolled up and he's working on the problem. I got to fix this. We've got to make this right. At least he's going to keep up that illusion that it's like, I'm not going to

go to the fucking yacht race today, guys. I'm busy. I'm working on this issue. And he's not. He's at the fucking yacht. Even if he he's not working on it don't go to the yacht race yeah inside a room that's what I want to do I want to you know it's like even if I'm not gonna go to the iris even if there's nothing that I can do to solve this problem I realize mathematically there's nothing that can be done just I'm still not gonna go to the yacht race because I want at least have the appearance that I'm hiding hide from the fucking cameras for a week yeah it's it's not even like you didn't do it

It's that it didn't even occur to him. It didn't even think of it. It's like oh this could be bad. What a fucking idiot Hundreds of millions of dollars. It makes no fucking sense. Yeah, where do these people come from? Do they fall from the troposphere? We find them sky-clad on a pile of money Nice and proper into the troposphere. Welcome. Alright, well let's wrap this shit up. Alright, alright, now that everyone's riled up. Alright, well thanks.

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