Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #111

Episode Date: April 27, 2011

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Twisted metal, streaming only on peacock. Gus, go with the theme song. Welcome to the Rooster Keep Podcast. Again, stealing my fucking intro. Man, that music sounded really familiar. Oh, we have another stolen theme song? I don't know. I was told that that was an original composition for us. Oh yeah?

Well maybe it is, maybe I'm wrong. These ideas are just floating out there. Anyone can take it. It was a Foxwell on the website You know, it always makes me laugh is to this day when people use that original sound bite which is Gus go with the theme song Yeah, that might be the most used one in all of our songs You know the original idea that I had we first started the podcast was that someone on the podcast would make up and sing a theme song every week. How many would we be up to you at this point, Gus? A terrible 111?

Yeah. What a terrible idea. Yeah. That would have been awful. No offense. Had we continued that? Yeah. It's, luckily it pitted up pretty quickly, just like the different theme songs.

So Red vs. Blue. Idea. He used to be. All silly. Yeah. Yeah, the different theme song so red versus blue idea. He used to all So it is yeah, yeah, I think it was we had different themes songs for every versus blue up through episode six before Niko came out rescue Did you only make one only put one out? Yeah, Bernie filmed the one I recorded the purple one. Yeah, the purple one The I can't we all get together make ourselves a little purple. We're a lot of ideas back then Hey, man, you gotta try everything right You just throw things at the wall and eventually something's dead.

You make it sound like we've stopped having bad ideas. We're a nice. We still have a lot of bad ideas. Who's in gentlemen, Matt Holom? Hey, your side podcast today. Should we all introduce ourselves to my favorite part when I get to say my own name? I'm Jeff Ramsey.

Hey. I'm Bernie Burns. I'm gonna be Jeff Ramsey then. You be Jeff Ramsey. I'll do that. And this is the aforementioned Matt Holom. And this is Gus Arola. I'm Bernie Burns. I'm gonna be Jeff Ramsey then. You be Jeff Ramsey. I'll do that. And this is the aforementioned mahalum. And this is Gus Arola.

I'm Cheryl Hines. You also, that's another old reddit from Black Pass that used to go through. Jeff never got tired of that joke. No, I never get tired of your jokes. Apparently not. Always fresh. You're the best idea, sir.

That's a little Simmons-free from Red versus Blue. Look at that. I just want to work. Referee to hell at this point. Hey, you know, remember the beginning of this podcast? We read all those jokes. Just send, just send. You said the loop button on your iPod at this point. So, PSN still down. I don't know if you guys heard that. Ooh, what's it been six, seven days now?

That's the big news right now. How many users is that? Well, they tout like 50 million, don't they? Cause P.S.N. is free. So anybody who has a PS3 or a... what are their... PSP or any of that shit is a... Automatically a PSN user, I think? That's crazy. It's been down so long that even though this podcast is pre-recorded, I feel totally confident that when people hear us saying this, it will still be down. They use the word indefinitely.

That's not good. You know, this is fucked up. I actually feel bad for PlayStation owners, because it's not a cool thing. Imagine if that box was live and down for a week, I mean the world wouldn't. It's terrible. But I love that like Brandon this morning was trying to justify like it wasn't a big deal, trying to play it off. He's like, that's just a week. And week and a month nobody's gonna remember that. I guess

I wonder what it takes to get to that level of brand loyalty Where the people who pay for your service or pay for your thing then defend it even when it does poorly as opposed to If you're out in like the real world and you buy something it doesn't work You're like this is shitty. Don't give me my money back right this stop it I can't play portal 2 online and it just came out yeah that's a bad timing for them I never thought I don't want to think about that I always just think about it from the perspective of well you can't buy any new arcade games but they can't play multiplayer yeah portal to co-op isn't no up you can spit screen. More like cooops. Yeah, I guess there's a you they can keep playing the single player or do co-op on the same screen. So Gus, can you give us your

smart guy and you have a computer? Can you give us the rundown on what exactly has happened to the Pearson? I think it's cell technology. It's the cloud. It just stopped working. They haven't officially given an like a real explanation. I think last Saturday they said it was an external intrusion that caused the outage, which you will kind of leads you to believe that someone may be hacked PSN, but some other people who are just are into the PlayStation modding scene said that this app came out for the PS3 that allowed you to connect to basically like their parallel developer PSN and then put in fake credit card info and download whatever you wanted from PSN essentially

for free. Right. Because in the on the fake dev network, it was trusted so they didn't actually do credit card verification or authorization. So it didn't matter what you put in. Now I never went to business school. But stop right there. The entire user base can download everything for free.

That is bad for the business. That's bad. You cannot make up for that in volume. At least they don't have to. Volume will never catch up at that rate. At least they don't have to pay for the PSN service though. I bet you could get someone in a boardroom who could spin that though. We have 100% of the hacker demographic.

You know who you could get to do that? Brandon. Mr. PS3. So supposedly they are, I guess we're finding out a lot of fake credit card numbers. We can sell them back to the credit card company. Yeah, I got that data. Supposedly they're, I guess, rebuilding PSN, essentially from the ground up. Oh, Lee, man.

To fix that. Did they ever fix that exploit that allowed people to just unlock trophies that will? I forgot about that. Because that was another huge hack that they had, or exploit they had earlier this year, where somebody basically figured out you could exploit it, and you could just unlock all the trophies in the call. I bet they would.

Gladly take that block back. I think it's right for the current one. No kidding. So is this kind of a condemnation of having an open platform that's on a network like that. I mean, this all comes from, you say home brewed. These weren't hacked or the equivalent of jailbroken PS3s, were they?

They may have been. They think they were modded initially to run this app. And then the app allowed them to get back onto the regular PSN network through the Dev Network. I see. So they were modded to begin with, or running hacked firmware. So I mean, could this have happened to, we,

could this have happened to Xbox 360? Is it just a matter of circumstance? I mean, sure. I don't know the specifics of how the network does checking, but I mean, in theory, I guess someone could do that. Did. I can only imagine. Look, except there's no web browser on the Xbox.

And they're using some sort of the URL exploit. Yeah, but I mean that's just that's just the message of attack. Yeah, you could burn something to a DVD and put it in the Xbox or put it on a USB drive. Yeah, 360 and hack Twitter. Oh, I said you know hacking. I sent you that. I sent you that great link last night, Bernie, the simulated hacking website. I was trying to look it up right now to show to Jeff. Can you send me the link again? I don't know if I can find it. It's so great. It's a website you go to and it just basically loads a black screen and it doesn't matter what you mash on your keyboard. You just like mash it like

crazy like a hacker in a movie and it just starts fitting out like all these complicated lines of computer code. And it makes it look like you're really a bad hacker. Yeah. That's pretty awesome. No, it's it's pretty funny. I mean, you just like pound away in the keyboard. It's right. Could you use that for a few shorts? It's writing simple commands and everything. It's really fantastic. It's fun.

You can sit there and do it for, you know, maybe that hours, but definitely minutes are just like, I definitely sat there for this is all right. Several minutes during that. Does it ever turn into matrix code at any point? No, I didn't get that far. I'll see if I can find a way to guys for talking about some else. Did a while we're talking about video game systems that aren't get that far. I'll see if I can find a way to go. While we're talking about the video game systems that aren't the Xbox 360,

Gus, did you see that Nintendo announced their yearly earnings yesterday? I didn't. Yeah, I heard about that. They 70% lost in revenue. 70% lost? Yeah. Yikes. Yeah, they did 70% poor. No, I was giving you that year over year quarter to quarter. Year over year. They lost revenue. So what you're saying is they're not profitable

They don't have a loss. I only had a loss But they had a decrease in revenue of 70% Wow What do they attribute going to? Probably the fact that nobody buys weasen anymore other thing right they they tried to spend it that the 3ds is selling well though and that they look for continued growth thanks to the 3ds 3ds and the new Legend of Zelda game. So you can't say continued growth if you're currently not having growth. I think that's true But they're new growth. They're going to Release a new console this e3 right? Well, I'm gonna announce one. They're gonna. It's gonna be playable supposedly

But it'll come out in 2012. What did they call the Wii when it first came out? Revolution? Yeah, I think you're right. Nintendo revolution. I want to say right. Yeah, I think that was it. Or was that the Wii or was that the game key? It was a Wii, right? We the game key was dolphin. I think.

Yeah, the Wii was revolution. Next one. What's the code name for the next one? I remember the last of the four was originally the 63. Isn't it called the project cafe? Oh, it does. There's a name. Yeah, I think that's what they're calling it right proffet motive or

Nintendo restart revenue He starts You know when the Wii was selling whatever 63 million and a ridiculous amount. Yeah Just an enormous amount of consoles and you can see the impact that had especially on and you can see the impact that had, especially on PlayStation and really more so on the 360 as they went after that with the move and the connect and I mean you can have the more. I'm assuming the avatars were a response to the Mies on the Wii. And it's hard to believe that from that now we're at a point where everyone recognizes, yeah we all have Wii's and nobody plays them. Yeah. Yeah, I'm really I was thinking about it when they announced this new console And I realized how not excited I am about it

I really hated the game cube and I bought the Wii and there were a couple of cool games for it But I can't remember the last high-play my Wii. I think it was for That paper Mario game that came out And that was like a year and a half ago two years ago, maybe last game that I got for the Wii Man, I can't think of one I bought maybe, oh Epic Mickey. Yeah, that was the last Wii title that I bought. Jack and I played Dead Space Extraction,

that was pretty fun. The Wii is on all the time in our house, but I think for most people, it seems like it was a novelty item that a lot of older people got, you know, and people that are not in the core gaming demographic got. And you also pretty much have to stop playing the Wii after you are not in the core gaming demographic got. And you also

pretty much have to stop playing the Wii after you've broken all the windows in your house. Which I think happens to everybody. We've lost windows and picture frames. Have you really seen TV? Oh yeah, windows. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.com. No, he did that. He was after the curve. They should have built in a tiny camera in the controller. So at least you could see something like that records,

you know, you could see the final trajectory of it, something cool. Or if it detects that it's hit glass, it makes the, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, boy, you're worried. Immediately. Hey, did also I thought I read last week that Sony announced they're canceling the PSP Go.

Is that right, Ghost? Yeah, I wouldn't say that. They're discontinuing it. They're discontinuing it, sorry. That was always a weird product to me. I don't know how you can convince retailers to sell a product that doesn't use media they sell. Right.

Like they would sell you a PSP Go, and you'd buy all your games through PSN and download them. Which I guess you probably, if you have a PSP Go, you can't get games now, can you? Yeah. Can you, man, I can't imagine who's a PSP go you can't get games now can you yeah, yeah, can you man I can't imagine who who's the guy at Sony taking the calls from the developers who are just yelling at him non-stop You know because they can't sell any product They can't sell any other games because there's no network no kidding

How about the guy that's the taking the call from valve who basically just launched steamworks? I'm sure that's a lawyers. I'm just I'm sure that's just lawyers and rooms I'm sure that's a lot of lawyers. I'm just I'm sure that's just lawyers and rooms Gussie you know, you know, yeah writing letter after letter highlighting high-lighting Highlighting contracts, you know, yeah, going guess what? It's it's like a dance off but with legal contracts and letters Square up with each other written subpoenas and shit like that. Yeah, that it's it's not fun. I can imagine at all. But when you talk about a retailer selling the PSP go, I'm amazed that some of the retailers have said these games that

have the codes in them where you need to unlock a portion of the retail part of the game. You mean the old games. You pretty much all games at this point. I'm surprised that they haven't. They haven't said, yeah, we're not gonna tell this. Yeah, it's not a it's not a full product that you're selling in our store. So, fuck off. I'm surprised that it hasn't happened yet. I got as much as I loved Mass Effect 2, I just went through it completed Mass Effect 2, so I'm all 100% with it now. I have to admit, I was very happy to be done with that game. And I loved it, and I'm just I'm glad I don't have to deal with it anymore.

Just because of serverless network. Just because of serverless network and all the DLC and how it was on different accounts in my house. And I literally was to the point at the end where I had to log in two different gamer tags to play one game. Wow. Yeah, it's just ridiculous. Hey, I have a question actually, because I, uh, we both like games on demand, right? And I had something come up that I've never thought of before. If I download a games on demand game, is it tied to my game or tied?

It is. That sucks. It sucks. I don't want to buy it when I use games on demand now. All right, listen, I love that service a lot, but it's, you know, when you buy a disc, it's in your house. Anyone in your house can use it. Yeah.

And games on demand. I, I, I, I, I think I tested this. Okay. Here's the way DRM normally works. Is that if I buy a digital product, and I'm talking about this. Okay, here's the way DRM normally works. Is that if I buy a digital product, and I'm talking about the 360 here, buy a digital product, it is tied to my account, and it's also tied to the console at which I purchased it,

and I can transfer the DRM license, I think, once a year to another console. Meaning I can go around my gamertag wherever, and play my game on demand. I think that, it might not be that bad, because I know I bought Fable 2 games on demand using my account, my Xbox Live account, but I know my wife plays it without me being signed in on our Xbox. So if you're on that console, where you purchase or the license lives, then you can play it. Although I just recently bought a game where I felt like that was not working in that way or maybe I'd bought it

Maybe I was mistaken on which console I bought it on okay, see I think I'm about to enter in because you this is something You complain about a lot because it affects you. I am millie getter an Xbox center bedroom in a TV It'll affect you now and I'm in I'm discovering this as a problem now, right? And I thought I thought that the family center thing would fix that because we're all four counts in my house tied together And they're well under this family plan that they have and I manage it through the family center thing would fix that because we're all four counts in my house tied together. And they're well into this family plan that they have and I manage it through the family center, which is very cool. Very cool.

Because I give my kids points and stuff like that. But again, it's like why complain about something that's like, I know I'm a unique case for. I'm like 1% of 1% of people who have multiple accounts in their house and we don't have like a room that just has one 360 in it. That's not the Jack Patillo approach. No, exactly that will it's time to write some angry twitters That will be an ongoing problem though the problem like the becomes more of a problem for everybody as we go on Though don't you think like with iPhones that drives me crazy

Out it's like if you like Jeff I think you saw this problem at your house right putting the same account We just have different one Yeah, we just have one account for all of our phones and computers. Because otherwise you're buying anger birds like 15 times. Yeah, we do that. We have one account across all my phones. Yeah, but you don't really want to do that in the game space because you don't want like your kids account and your account to be the same account, right? Because it's more of a public. Especially with teaming, and ranking, and achievements. Yeah. And playing together, like, I don't want,

trust me, I don't want my kid logging on and getting messages from my Xbox Live friends. No, at all. And it's the same thing. I mean, I phone to work in the same way, though, because you tie to your game center account. That doesn't really have the traction that the Xbox Live system does.

No, not yet, but we'll see. You know, but theoretically, you can become a point where I would want that to be separate from what my kids have. Yeah, it's managing the DRM stuff is tough. It's really tough. Which it would be a lot easier to swallow if the prices were lower. You know what I mean? Like, it's not a big deal, I'm your bird, it's a buck.

You know, I really don't care that much. You know, but when you look at like a $500 music library, suddenly that's a big deal. Like, are we running that with our iPhone? Yeah, more music, you know, just like I can play this song on my, but I go on my wife's phone and I don't have it or going one computer that doesn't have it. Yeah, I kind of think it's to be a pain in the butt. The problem I have is I have so many different iTunes on so many different things that every once

and all I'll go to a computer and it'll be like, you're not authorized on this computer, you have to deauthorize another computer and authorize this. Yeah, the authorization shuffle. Yeah, but that nice tool where you can deauthorize everything all at once, that's cool, but once again, you can only use that once a year, I think. No, you can use it.

Well, I guess I've never tried to use it more than once a year. I think it's a really big window, yeah. Yeah, I'm not sure it's one year. I might be misspeaking there But I'm pretty sure that the deauthorized all computers and I changed is also windowed But then 10 minutes later you get a very angry call from your wife who's like why I can't do the thing that I was gonna Do why isn't this work? It's all broken come fix it From my wife's

Yeah, I don't know why she calls me Yeah, well, I just but they'll have that password. So the dangerous thing is when the kids learn the password and then you watch them with the iPhone. What's going to happen when all these services are in the cloud, as they say? Because as an iTunes has been about to announce for six months or something that they're going to go all cloud. So they keep going all the way. I mean, I'm wondering, that's just going to make it worse. It seems like because then you can't even go to, you know, like

on your computer and dig through the hidden files and find that, you know, the music stuff that you want to copy over to your, your son's computer, your wife's computer or whatever. I guess it depends on the implementation. It may, you know, depending on how it works, it may just show up as another drive on your computer that when you're online, it pops up. You know, it's one of the things you can have problems no matter what. I mean, I wish that some of the problems I have didn't directly benefit other people. In other words, that I didn't have to buy another version of the game. And they, I know they're making money and I know it's the rebise are showing up somewhere on their income statement.

But the same sense is like the guy in the 50s driving around with the AM radio in his car is like, shut the fuck up, you know. You have every song ever made on this little, you know, Star Trek device that sits on your dashboard just shut the fuck up. So I recognize that. You're like, I think I did. You're iPhone smaller than this 8 track.

That's interesting. Yeah, exactly. But back to that point is when I finish DLC on a title now, I'm more relieved than anything else that I just have to clear all this digital stuff out that I don't have to deal with it anymore. And hopefully someone will come up with a more streamlined way to deal with it, but in the same sense, when you open anything up or make it available to everyone, guess what? The PS3 network goes down for a week for three weeks for everybody, you know what I mean? Because it would just be great if everybody was honest. Doesn't that be great, guys? And then you could have an open system.

They'd already removed the option on the PS3 to even be able to install other operating systems. Remember we talked about that a few months ago. He used to be able to install Linux on your PS3 and they removed that via firmware also because of fears of things like this. Right. That's what I was talking about with Arnte open open on the PS3 But yeah, it was the Linux thing that they shut down. Mm-hmm. How does steam work? It's just its own It's just like a PSN. I believe is a rapper around steam. No, I'm sorry for DRM like you haven't account Like for the computer. Let's say you gave me your login information. Yeah, why couldn't I just download all your games on steam? There is there is a system in place. I just discovered it the other. If you install Steam on another computer or like another like I have a Windows Mac dual boot on the Mac side when I went to install Steam and I tried to log in it said you're

trying to log in for the first time from this computer so we emailed you a code you need to enter in so I had to switch back to the Mac side get the code and go back to the computer. Sure but I could you could send me the code too I could be a buddies yeah I don't know I'm you might not be able to do simultaneous logins for multiple computers so that's the deal that we can't log in the same place yeah well that's seem that seems like a pretty good solution you know I think that's it I mean I haven't used it and I don't I don't know anyone else I've never given anyone else my steam accounts I don't know exactly how that works like let's say I had red dead on games on demand if I'm playing it

Well, let's say I have a disk if I'm playing it and then I hand to you you can go play it Yeah, yeah, and then if I had a game on demand if I'm just playing it then no other digital account can be playing it at the same time That makes sense to me. That would make sense. Yeah, right? Just you treat it like a physical physical media. Yeah, and you can be in use one place at one time Yeah, but only by the purchase of the ball. No, but if you lend it like, right, in the case of the physical copy of red debt. Yeah. Look at us, we're just solving the industry's problems right here, confusing times. That's why we're such a high creative gaming pocket.

It's been so much about the gaming industry. What I've solved so many issues. This is amazing that we're actually, we've actually talked about gaming for so long. We have, we haven't even started talking about Portal 2 yet. Which we played last week. Let's talk about Portal 2 then. So, did you see, I guess, that Portal 2 is going to be Valve's last game with an isolated single player experience?

I did. Should we also say that we're not going to give any spoilers, so people don't tune out real quick just to give a disclaimer. Okay, we will make every time to make this as spoiler free as possible. And Gus, you will blank out anything that's spoiler-erific, right? Yeah. So you don't have to tune out. I'll just go in and add all the spoilers later.

There you go. We'll portal them out for you. So guys, what are you saying that portal two is going to be the last single player game? Last game with an isolated single player experience is what they've said. Isolated to specific word. Yeah. Did they use word isolated? That's the exact quote. Isolated is specific word. Did they use word isolated? That's the exact quote.

Isolated single player experience. Just one can infer that maybe half life episode three, half life two episode three will have co-op, potentially. No, by then they'll have invented a new type. It'll be so far in the future, they'll have invented a new type of game. You haven't even thought about it yet. Oh really?

Yeah, it's half life two episode three will be counting for like in 30 years. Hey, back when they reinvented, when they reinvented the number three means. I don't think that this is a spoiler. Um, I got I was reading the portal wiki last night. So I wonder if this is probably a spoiler. And they were saying I always knew that the portal universe and the half left universe are the same universe. Yeah. And I guess that, um, someone from Valve, maybe Eric Walput, said that down the road that Shell, the main character from Portal, will play a significant role

in the Half-Life, you know, in the other stories in their universe, and that inferred that she would be a part, like, will play some sort of a part in Half-Life. Did you guys ever hear that? No. Yeah. It's like that would have been bigger deal. I read it on the yeah like the Half-Life wiki last night. I Said that was citation needed What's that? Yeah, I don't know. It was like a direct quote from the guy I've always felt aside from Half-Life which was an amazing experience of playing a game and getting an unbelievable story without any cutscenes That was unbelievably revolutionary to me. revolutionary to me when they did that. But aside from that half-life franchise, I recognize that there's fiction layered on

deval games like Left For Dead and Portal, but it always seemed intentionally surface-ish to me. Like, I never looked any deeper than that. It was, I thought it was the perfect amount of story to justify what you were doing without bogging you down the story. Without being overwhelming. Yeah, I agree. Apparently all that story is there if you choose to look for it though. Right. Kind of like the writing on the walls and left for dead. I learned a lot of stuff about Portal last night just reading like all about Ratman and that whole thing. I don't know who that was. He was all over Portal 1 and all of Portal 2 and there's like all these characters I wasn't familiar with. Great. Now I have to go read it to I know what you're saying

interesting like all the scribbling on the walls in portal one and portal to was all by the scientist name Dr. Ratman Uh-huh. who was like the one living scientist left in the appshire labs and who was hiding from Gladys and selected Shell uh to be the test subject of beater and it's all kinds of stuff it's really deep and apparently you can infer like infer and get all this just from like deciphering all the shit that he wrote on the walls I just never looked at it that deeply. I don't know but you guys I assume that was another test subject who find is found is what in fact I assumed it was another test object too the fact this guy's name is ratman. Yeah, like Dr. Ratman and apparently he He also was watching and

Giving clues to Shell throughout Portal 1. And that's what all that stuff was. There were clues he was leaving for to help take her to Gladys' lair so that he could defeat her. Oh. No, that she could defeat her. Well, is he, I mean, again, I don't know if this spoiler should not, but is he dead by the time that Shell does that? Uh, it, yes. It's supposedly he's dead.

Hmm. Okay, listen, I'm gonna go even a little higher than that. I didn't know the main character was named Chel. I didn't either until I started reading it. Right, I mean, there's no, where did you get an indication that this is Chel? Is it Chel or Chess? Chel, it's Chel.

Yeah, it's there. If they're even, well, there's some spoiler stuff I can tell you, so I won't, but yeah, there's, it's in there. Chel, I'll black it out. Listen, well, there's like a scene when you go through the potato area and you see all the potato science projects Hers is there

Those take your father to work or take you daughter to work day Which is the day that aperture science gladdest went live and destroyed everyone? It's called the take your daughter to work day massacre and Her science project is the giant potato that goes up through the ceiling She she signs it and it's like all the chills. Yeah, I looked at all those. I didn't see that. Yeah, it's a day of pictures and everything. It's her name is right there in the whole deal.

But here's the deal. I find this fucking blown. Yeah, and apparently there was also a portal comic and it talks a lot about it in the portal comic that came up between one and two. But if you don't know her name, you wouldn't know that. But you do fight, I mean, I suppose it's in portal one too.

I don't remember where it was. It was in portal one, I remember that. Yeah, I also give you look for it. When I'm saying this that I's in Portal 1 too, I don't remember where it was. It was in Portal 1, I remember that. Yeah, I also gave you a look for it. When I'm saying this that I don't know the character, the main character even had a name, that might sound like I don't care or that's irrelevant. I actually think that's completely awesome. I thought Portal 2 and the story of Portal 2 was probably one of the best that I've seen in any video game ever. Totally agree.

And they also made a big point of talking about how she never speaks at all during the campaign. Right. Not because she can't, but because she's so annoyed with Gladys, she never wants to give Gladys the satisfaction of knowing that she's gotten to her. Really? To conscious effort not to speak at all at any point. Really?

Yeah. That's kind of weird though, the beginning of Portal 2. The whole time, I can tell you all about that too, but I don't want to you know We don't want to get mired in portal to mythos, but the whole time you and I were talking on a last night That's what I was doing. I read for about an hour and a half just portal stuff. Yeah, we're talking on a You're you've been freaking You were sending emails so are we then to infer from this that Gordon Freeman is annoyed by everything he runs into and that's why he never talks as well? I mean, actually

talked about that with Gordon Freeman too, and I think that Gordon Freeman has spoken at some point, like once or twice. I can't recall. I can't remember any talking, but they mentioned that somewhere that it's very similar to how they treat Gordon Freeman, but different in some way. Well, apparently he just thinks Barney is an asshole because he's not saying anything to him. Barney, I forgot his name. I was trying to think, what's the, what's the ball side just name that has a Lamar? Oh, oh, yeah. That crap.

I can't remember. But, uh, yeah, it's, um, I, you know, I don't think it, I think Valve does a great job. When you play Portal 2 and you play through it. I'm not gonna give you spoilers here, but they construct things so well you don't realize they're being constructed and you react to things in the game based you realize later I made a reaction to what I did based on something I learned in the game with not even knowing that I was learning. I know exactly what you're talking about. It's so crazy. What part are you talking about?

You can believe it. This podcast only can be 10 minutes long. Everything I said about not getting spoilers, is like throwing up the window, I guess. Well, we realize we can beat it. Yeah, this is going to be one long tone. There's also, you guys know that achievement where you pick up the, save the the turret from yeah

On the conveyor belt you know if you if you carry it with you It'll talk to you and it says all kinds of really crazy stuff like and they she Total sports. Yeah, I knew that we never get I knew that because I when I picked her up Like I picked up that turret cuz I was walking down the conveyor I didn't realize it's an achievement I just picked it up. I was like, oh weird that one's moving. I want to look at it. I got an achievement I was like, oh, I wonder if there's something special about it I kept it with me and then you get to that uh, where I didn't realize it's an achievement. I just picked it up and I was like, oh, we're at that one's moving. I want to look at it. I got an achievement. I was like, oh, I wonder if there's something special about it. I kept it with me and then you get to that a... Well, you can't take it. So I stood there with her forever just listening to it talk. I was like, what was like, I wonder if all this means something? Yeah, I did the same thing. But of course,

at that point, you don't... You got to think it right, yeah. You know what? Portal 2 was a different experience for me just in terms of being an Xbox 360 game that was different than any other game I've played in a while. Is I was doing things in portal to to figure out if they were achievements. I didn't even load up the achievement list to see what I'm supposed to do. I was trying to do things thinking, oh, this is probably this will probably be an achievement. Can I tell you something as well? I did the same thing and I don't know how. My job is to find achievements, right? And I some something about that game. I was so sucked in so instantly. I never thought to hit pause and go look at achievement lists to make sure I was doing everything properly. And I got lucky and I only missed one single player achievement on my playthrough,

I got to go back and record for achievement hunter. But yeah, they're really cool the way they make it kind of intuitive and like entice you into finding the achievements and you do. And it's crazy, there's so many more mechanics than the original portal in this game. I was describing a situation to Jeff where I got stuck in a little pit where there's these light bridges that you can use in the game And this is one of the what they go excursion tunnels Which is like a light tunnel that carries you and use portals to then make those excursion tunnels go in different directions So that you can travel the different parts of the room typical puzzles in portal. Yeah, but with a really cool new mechanic travel to different parts of the room. Typical puzzles in portal. Yeah, but with a really cool new mechanic.

But you get so used to all this new stuff and using it that I was stuck in a spit and I was thinking I can't I can't reach the excursion tunnel. I can't use it to draw me out of this pit I'm stuck and I was in there for five minutes and realized I got a fucking portal gun. I just make a portal and walk out of here You get overloaded and then yeah, you forget about the like the beginning mechanics. You you have too many tools? There's that game does something that in a way that no other game has where it simultaneously makes you feel like the smartest and dumbest person in the world. Like you watch me get stuck at a point yesterday where I was stuck for probably 20 minutes and I was so frustrated as soon as you walk away I figured out and I go, I'm a fucking

genius and then I go, it took me 30 minutes to figure out the stupidest person on the planet. I should somebody should hit me with a brick. Wait until you get an 8-year-old. It's like, I'm gonna hit you with that. Do not watch anyone else play Portal after you've finished it. They will seem like the dumbest person on the planet. I have to-

You're like, it's right there. I walked in on Jeff Plain the other day before he'd finished it. And I was like, and I said, I was like, it's like watching a monkey with a rock in a stick trying to figure out how to make fire. It is. But you have to admit that it's one of the most refined games ever because somehow they've included into a video game the same mechanic that's like part of Wers' Waldo. Of just like, it's here, I'm looking at it.

I'm gonna see it if I look at this eventually, how to solve this problem. And there's not that component really in any other game. It's like, you were like searching around looking for stuff, and you're like, damn it, I'm gonna solve this. In the moment, you see the solution, it makes perfect sense to you. Very fun experience. And I would say it's probably,

it's easily one of the most unique gaming experiences you can have. Is it a great portal series? I couldn't believe they made another game out of it, and they fucking nailed it. It'll be a strong contender for game of the Year at the end of the year. I can't imagine this year. I don't know what else is on the slate, but.

Mass Effect 3. There's a lot. Deus Ex. Oh, Uncharted 3 is coming out as well. There's a lot of heavy hitters coming out this year, but yeah. A lot of threes. A lot of threes. And one, two.

Portal 2. Stage 3. It's stage strong, two, portal to stage, it's stage strong to the whole way through it. States Trump. Yeah, I got I don't understand the people who complain that that game was too short. Those people are a lot smarter than I am apparently, even like I replayed it, I beat it the second time and even knowing how to beat the puzzles is still taking five and a half hours to beat that game. Yeah, do you know that most of the levels that they showed completed

levels that they showed at conventions that we went to like packs? Those were not included. There were all, there were a ton of levels that were just those plates, those spiked plates clamping together. And from what I read attributed to someone who developed saying they cut those because they didn't want to have too much just timing things. They wanted to be more about figuring out how to solve it as opposed to just, I got to jump at the right time or I was running at the right time through this thing.

Right. Good because I hate that shit. I'm actually a platformer games. Sure. I get you hate platformer game and you like portal to. Yeah. So portal to you. It's not a platformer to me. It's a puzzle game.

I'm not I agree. I'm going to ask you all of these questions. So portal to is a definite recommend from everybody here. Yes. Yes. I could A plus plus would do business again. For that, he's just had the whole game spoiled and for you pretty much pretty much. You should play it, dummy. That's right. When I listen to the podcast later, I'll bleep out all that stuff in my mind. Man hasn't been able to play because his home route PS3 has been busy hacking the network.

He has his kids picked up the weed controller and smashed the Xbox. Along with the window and a TV. You want to talk a little bit about the leech footage of the new weed that's coming out? This leak footage? I shouldn't say the new weed, the new Nintendo. No, the leech schematics I should say. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen that. Yeah. I said it to you. Oh, that thing? That was in that conversation. I thought that was bullshit. That's real. So basically the way they're describing this thing or the way this schematic is laid out and you know what I gotta be honest I I usually don't like reporting on non-official information but these days it seems like everything that you've heard about things that's unofficial has turned out to be true

I don't know about that. When was the last leak that you heard that wasn't true? Some of the iPhone 5 rumors about design. Is the iPhone 5 out? No it'll be out But there's conflicting ones. So they can't all be right. Well, how are they conflicting? Like different designs, different looks to the phone. One of them says it's going to be the iPhone 6. Yes, one of them says it's going to be the iPhone 6. How did you know? Did you read the article? 4.8. Don't just tell me like, I'm an idiot. You're just proving my theory, something they can't possibly be disproven. What? They have different designs. They're not

going to release two iPhone 5s that are what they thought of you. They look totally different. What if they have two different versions of the iPhone 5? Three would sell like an idiot in about four months. With that, and the phone is selling an idiot right now. Not to play devil's advocate, but how many versions of the iPod do we have?

What's that? How many versions of the iPod do we have? That's an excellent question. I mean, we have the. One, because every revision, it's just revised to one uniform look. The 3G, I mean,'s a different color black and white But that's it I pod in the iPod nano were the same thing. They're different products. Oh because they give different names

I say they're both iPhone 5 prototypes They're not calling on iPhone 5 iPhone 5 nano iPhone iPhone 580 I read a rumor that there was gonna be a horizon. I read a thing I read your name. You're saying that you don't know that. I do know that You don't know that you're just saying it. You're just saying it. You're just saying it. What is you saying it? I'm missing. I think most elite information that has come out lately that when the actual product comes out It turns out it was true and you're saying that's not true because the iPhone 4.5 didn't do that But the iPhone 5 isn't fucking out. So you know, no, that's gonna be wrong when it comes out because there's different commands.

Leave that speculation. You're speculating. I know. No, it's not. Am I speculating? I will say that I did read that that one of the rumors is that there's gonna be an iPhone 5 and an iPhone 5 mini. So they're good. You look so scared. No, that's incorrect. That's your gusset saying that's incorrect. You didn't read that I didn't I'm sorry because you're he's from the future and you're not on that I didn't I haven't a lovely time with you guys. I don't want to get stuck into this now I'm anymore to talk about the stupid new Nintendo Guss is ruined it for me. I would I would like to talk about anything other than my funds

So the new schematic that was leaked Which I'm sure now will be completely false about the new Nintendo is that it's a base station That doesn't it doesn't look like it hooks in your TV the big hook on this console is that all the controllers Have the TV screen on them. So you have four controllers and you all play the screen cast Well the Vitch gets to the VMU. I think these are high-deaf screens. Yeah, I'm sure they know Yeah, but that sure they do. Yeah, but that's basically the concept we're talking about, right? Yeah, Nintendo actually also did something similar with the GameCube, with Final Fantasy,

the Crystal Chronicles game. With the GBAs. Yeah, with the GBAs, where if you plug them in, you could use them as little screens where other players couldn't see what you were doing. Wasn't there something like that with Animal Crossing 2 or one of those games? I think Animal Crossing did have some on the GameCube did also have something like that. I think that was like you could travel to your Game Boy from the game. You could. That's what it was, right? Yes. It also had the scanner where you could buy cards and scan stuff and they would bring it into your GameCube. Why didn't it make a standard for the day people? I don't know yet. I had that scanner.

That's how I know about it. So this guy had it. They also have some similar with the 3DS now, right? Where you can look at cards. It's like an alternate reality or augmented reality display. 3DS does nothing for me. I saw it a pack. I was like, Matt said he won't buy it because he

read it, he heard it, hurt your kids vision. Oh, that's the 3DS. They did that. That's what they released. They said publicly. Don't play it. Kids under six shouldn't play it. Oh, that's the way they do. They, that that's what they released, they said publicly. Don't play it. Kids under six shouldn't play it. Yeah, there's like stickers all over the box saying

not to give it to kids under, I think you're right under six. Yeah, it's the virtual boil over again. That's great. I don't know you release a product like that, especially when it's, that is the kids, you know, demographic. I mean, you're not going to, that's what they want to play. Mm-hmm. You know, I would

It seems irresponsible to me, even with all those stickers. This I mean, you don't think about stuff like that. We were cleaning out the junk drawer at my house and one of the things I think we that came out of there was I guess when we had a cat, we had a mouse laser pointer. So it's like, well, she's in the shape of a mouse and it made a little red dot laser So you can entertain the cat with that. They love those things and that just came out and all the junk that was coming out of the junk drawer Mm-hmm and we were in process sorting it to throw it away and my younger kid Teddy Picks his laser pointer up and like start shining it directly in his own eye. Wow. I free the fuck out, dude I'm not my kid and my wife did not understand it at all, you know My wife also didn't understand that when you unscrew a light bulb from a lamp you shouldn't stick your finger in the sock. She didn't know that that would shock you. Did she get shocked? Yes she shocked the hell out of herself. There's a shocking revelation. You could say that. It's like the oldest gag in

a three-stugias. Yeah. Just get. Just by having a handheld video game And telling kids not to play it. That's like having a cookie jar that you filled with poison or something Especially, yeah, I mean kids just like they see that device. It's like I have to pick that up and play with it Especially, especially, yeah, it looks like doggy calling on it. Yeah, exactly. It's all car stopper Right, it's a video game. Yeah, man forgets the play. Yeah, you know, that's one of the initial designs I'm especially an Nintendo game, right? It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, I saw it at PAX and I wasn't too crazy about it anyway Even though I'm over six. I still want to play it. I haven't even seen it I still want to see it just to see it. I'll probably blown away by it It probably make more sense in my hands looking at it from four or five feet away. Maybe that was part of the problem

We got I don't know. It's true. I did get a closer look at it at one point, but man. I also guess I'm also not impressed with the titles that are out for it right now. Maybe there'll be a game I really want to get later. Yeah, do you know, well, Nintin, dogs, and Nintin, cats is that right? Yeah, I think there's also a pilot wings for it. And I don't think I could name anything beyond that,

that launched with it. You know what we should do since none of us play Pokemon, we should all just play the most recent Pokemon. I we've completely missed that phenomenon. Everyone in this company, nobody plays, nobody plays Pokemon. Carry carry. Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. Is there a way we could capture video of that?

Sure we could. We have a couple of cameras. We could do it. Is it like a thousand hour game when they make those boring video capture of all time? Do you train the Pokemon to do stuff? you build them up right? They like level up They fight and get better you throw the ball. It's talking about it. Sorry, but I think the whole point I got a catchable right. Yeah, it's catching them all you got to collect them I'm like collect a million to collect what then you fight them to we yeah, there's a million people right now better

You better listen to this better just cringey face palming right now listening to us talk about Pokemon with no knowledge. So you collect the Pokemon, then you fight the Pokemon, and then the Pokemon's turning to other Pokemon's. And then you have all the Pokemon's. They're like, you've all right, that's what you mean? Right, they get it, they do level up to different versions of them. Yeah, more powerful. Like there's the lizard one that becomes the super lizard. That's speculation. Yeah, we haven't seen the lizard yet. Are they all right? It could be different. It could be a super lizard and a giant lizard.

Which one is it going to be released? The Gini of Fire and Ice. That's just a steam Pokemon. I Know that yeah, we should this there's there's like a trading aspect or multiplayer aspect to it, you know I think you fight each other's Pokemon's right all right. That's it. That's my Pokemon. I will my Pokemon's will be the shit out of your Pokemon's guys No fence that's it. I've never even trained my mom. I could tell you right now. Is that even grammatically correct? Are they Pokemon? Pokemon's? Pokemon men Pokemon men. It's a different game Pokemon You can find the guys that on achievement dot com Speaking of speaking of bad original jokes achievement dot com

All right, take it easy So while we're ranting about things I want to go back to an earlier rant and dear Lord Do I wish that Griffin was on the podcast They just for this discussion uh-oh Gus Guess who got busted on an airplane for not turning off his cell phone? That's fucking bullshit by the way. Did you get busted for it? No, he was you? No, here's what happened No, we didn't I'm gonna tell you the story did he not tell you take it off. No, we didn't I'm gonna tell you the story Did he not take it shut off? No, we didn't I'm gonna tell you the story

What I'm gonna tell you the story okay? I'm on my iPhone on playing Angry Birds They go we're gonna take off turn off your things and I go and I start to turn mine off and I'm like hold in the button down It turned it off and the guy goes excuse me sir and I just look hailing my phone until I go it's turning off right now He goes oh you've been asked that before huh and I go no and he goes I just want you to put your window shade up and I will go or down It's got to be down for takeoff and landing so I go okay, and I just turn my thing down It was so embarrassing. It was so embarrassing to watching to go through that I had to all that happened like ten chickies head other people in the exit are like He just like either fight it and it comes and talks to me while I'm turning my phone

If I'm gonna assume he wants to double-check I'm turning it off So I just showed it to him. I'm like it's turning off right now and he goes no Sorry, I just want you to drop a shit. We're lucky. We all didn't die from Jeff And this is launching of the rules. Didn't do anything wrong. I was turning it off I did put the shade up because it was bright So you can you can hit me for that and everyone died This is the moral of the story Jeff did something wrong and everybody died So it's really embarrassing so you can no longer call people. Would you call those poor ladies

with their dog? Cunts. Cunts. I didn't do anything wrong. I'm not, I'm not, I was an inviolation of any rules. You know, when you point one finger at somebody else, three fingers are pointed back at you. I don't know what that means. And none of those three fingers are turning off their cell phone apparently because the flight attendant had to contact you. He didn't talk to me about my fucking cell phone, okay? I assumed he was talking to me about my cell phone, which I was turning off. Because you knew you were guilty! I was turning it into the process off!

He just happened to talk to me the second thing announced that it was time to turn them off. And he was looking at pictures of dogs. That's the way part! That distorting reality, sir. How dare you? Sounds like it's time for an updated animated adventure. Oh, God. Really? You'll be the Rubin that. How does it feel to be the villain now? I don't know. Reality, sir how dare you sounds like it's time for an updated animated adventure. Oh God really? You'll be the Rubin that how does it feel to be the villain now? I don't know I wouldn't know never been a villain

It's what happened to you used to be such a good person public. I am I do everyone around you was safe I'm not in danger of falling on the sky the rules like Following the rules. I was behind Jeff driving in to work this morning Oh, we're like on a stretcher 35 to or in any cars in front of us He started hitting his brakes. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? He's like, oh, he's hitting the speed limit. So he's stopping.

Like, he's slowing down. You hit 65. You hit your brakes in the fast lane to stay at 65. You really can't go over 65 on that stretch. I don't know how to drive it. It's terrible. We had a break. We had a four or five cops every day.

No, have you seen how mad it is? God, there's cops every day. I don't speed ever. I don't want to be like Joel. I think it's Joel. He can go like every two weeks. I think he gets one every morning. It's crazy. I mean, they just mail I don't want to be like Joel. I think it's a joke. I think I like every two weeks I think he gets one every morning. It's crazy. They just mail it to him preemptively He fills it up on his own. He's on the honor system

They have hand signals as he passes You know, I was following the rules. That's what I do He was breaking because he was turning off his cell phone or trying to use in the middle of a text He's getting text about a picture of a dog. There's a stupid local ad campaign going on right now that I think the NBC, local NBC affiliates doing, they're calling, they have, they're making like little live strong bracelets for your individual fingers that say X the text. So you know not to text while you're driving.

I almost got the right day because I was looking up at the sign that says you text you talk you die. Have you seen that? Yeah, I've seen it. And I was like, daddy, so that's just like the messaging is just so negative and just like it's the big looming billboard that's towering over there. Everybody seems very big brother. You know, regardless of how bad it is to text and drive, there's something about the way they're presenting it. It seems really oppressive to me. And then I nearly ran off the road.

Well, I was looking at that. I was like, is it reading a distraction? No, it's still a distraction. Someone on the internet the other day, what made a post saying, if texting while driving is so bad and is such an epidemic, then why are traffic fatalities at the lowest rate they've been for the past 50 years?

Is that true? Yes. Fuck, speaking of traffic, did you guys read that they're trying to raise the speed limit in Texas to 85? Mm-hmm. That's nuts. It's only on certain roads. Right.

I don't think it's anywhere near us, but awesome roads. 85 miles an hour, that's bad. I didn't. There are some roads that I believe currently have a speed limit of 80. Yes. And they're going to get those, the ones that are currently aider and get bumped up to 85. Because they had no increase in accidents from 75 to 80.

Don't you think that a IELIS will go back to the solution of order in society like we've talked about before. I always had to feel like they've planned the curves that this road is 45 miles an hour so this curve is perfectly banked and set up and agreed for exactly the turn you need to make it 45 miles an hour so this curve is perfectly banked and set up and agreed or exactly the turn you need to make it 45 miles an hour. So how do they like just make all the roads 85 that you know even highways? Well I think that there's like certain specifications like it has to be a straight stretch for so long and I'm sure there's there's variances that they're allowed to operate within. Clearly Gus has bought in the same illusion that I have that someone is analyzing this and

taking care of this and says okay let's bump it up to 85 see where a bunch of people die Car said to flying off the road Let's scale it back from there. It's kind of sad But there's got to be a portion of it that's that like some actuary going. Yeah, we'll we'll retroactively analyze this and see how many people got crushed inside their vehicle We'll lose a couple but Okay, it'll be fine. People will save time overall. My ex-wife, you saw work at the Department of Public Safety and her job was to enter in tickets for that data.

And then they would come and they would take all the data and they would determine where accidents happen a lot and then change red lights and stuff based on that. That's what she did all day long. I don't know about you guys, but since we've moved into this new office, I am petrified of turning left in front of our office because of the blind corner right there. Oh, yeah, right over here on that street. Yeah, man, we heard that one accident. We're also about a hundred yards from a

firehouse. So we clacked it took the ambulance two and a half minutes to get to the scene of the accident. In the recent months, there have been a couple of fatal accidents here, right by this intersection, off of slaughter. No, don't say that. Really? Yeah, the last one I think was on someone on a motorcycle. I think there have been two or three others besides that. When I was a kid, we had a big yard, at the corner of the yard, we had a bus stop. And for some reason, it was like a magnet for drunk people in the middle of the night to hit. And our street kind of like was a street where you could cut through a busy intersection, you could cut through the neighborhood and go around it. And we probably had when I was going to like three or four different cars hit that bus stop

wreck. And we would wait, I would wake up in the morning and it'd be like car parts It's true and all over the yard and the bus stop would be destroyed. It was like the old kind we had the The rebar middle and the cement just cement I know it was all it was it wasn't like a seat It's a pile on yeah, it's like a pile on so and the one time the motorcycle thing reminded me of it got up in the morning And there was a half like of a motorcycle left. There was a destroyed motorcycle. I thought, how are you so drunk that you're able to ride a motorcycle, but you can't steer away from a bus stop in somebody's yard. Also, where's the other half of the motorcycle? Yeah, where's the other half of the motorcycle? Where's the other half of the guy? I wonder

what happened to him. Jeff, do you want to answer some of these questions for your met? How drunk do you have to be? Now, is it a Vespa? Maybe that's why I thought it was half a motorcycle. I think it was one Vespa. I was totally sober. Speaking of traffic fatalities, I was in Los Angeles and I was texting with my wife because Jeff and Matt and I took a trip to LA last week where we flew to LA in the morning,

we had a meeting and then we determined that we could make our flight coming back. We could book an earlier one. So we flew back by the end of the day. We flew back at four o'clock. We were in LA for less than eight hours. This is where Jeff's cell phone story took place. That's exactly right.

Yeah, that's a good, on the way out. He learned his lesson on the way back then. He really, he performed and made good. But I was texting with my wife when we were trying to go to back to the airport telling her we were going to make the early flight and she goes, that's great. Don't text me while you're driving. And I said, oh, it's OK, I'm not driving.

Matt's driving. She goes, pull over. Don't let Matt drive. She would rather have me drive and texted LA than drive with Matt. My wife is scared to death of the way that Matt drives. Well, Matt, it probably has an advantage advantage in it like he thinks traffic in Austin's worse right

I'll never live live okay so here's here's let me qualify this statement about Austin is that at 10 o'clock at night on a Wednesday any I am qualified so I said I'm gonna qualify at 10 o'clock at night on a Wednesday there will be a horrible traffic jam and I am qualified. It's what I said. I'm gonna call it Don't get a mad It's gonna start yelling at you. I got mad on a Wednesday. There will be a horrible traffic jam and nobody can go anywhere And by the way you when you moved in LA moved to the middle of that traffic I don't know why I That's Jeff. I'm just south of that traffic jam. You're where it starts. I'm where or where it ends depending on your point As long as you're driving away from everything.

Exactly, exactly. But in LA, it's at least, you know, at 9 o'clock, you can have triple traffic. And you know, if I pay them, we're going to have triple traffic. We went on a holiday weekend, on a Friday, drove out of LAX at 9 o'clock a.m. drove back to LAX at 4.30 p.m. It took us two hours to go 10 miles. It did it was fucking terrible It did and we were in yeah, anyway, that wasn't so good

I Because we had the conversation this conversation we had this conversation about Which is 15 I should have never said that because every time on the way to LA we're gonna be like What do you think traffic's gonna be like when we could tell a things pretty bad? Austin wasn't so bad this morning what do you think that's gonna be that remember that time in L.A. that Lee told you you had a small dick while you're driving anybody in Austin ever tell you that yes Matt Mac got a shouting match in the lady in the L.A. freeway

she accused him of having to hide my ever met him yeah it was awesome we cracked up L.A. and I will say this of Matt drives differently in LA, which is probably when my wife Jordan has written in your car You drive much more aggressively in LA, which I guess you have to have to But we were glad to make their life and after all this discussion of Matt saying yes Austin traffic is inexplicably bad LA's not that that bad. It's explikably bad or explainably bad. All of a sudden, LA is bad. Yeah, LA is. Yeah.

He takes the wheel and immediately we get stuck, like Jeff said, in a two hour 10 mile traffic jam. It was unbelievable. It was pretty bad. Like we weren't going to make them, like I even said, do we have an important traffic jam? No, no, no. You know what?

You know what? You know, he heard some people from LA think. There was a guy behind me in the line of the security line at the airport, and I heard him talking to somebody else saying, yeah, I had just come from like Melrose and you know, Kowanga, like the area where we came from. And he's like, it took me two and a half hours to get down here. And I was like, oh, we beat him by 45 minutes. I remember we were 45 minutes into that trip, and I was like, God, are we going to make it? And that goes, yeah, it's going to go a lot faster once we get on the interstate.

And I was like, we aren't on the interstate yet. 45 minutes to the interstate. It was a mile from the hotel. Yeah, it was crazy. And Matt says when you overtalk to him too about L.A. He always says the same thing is an explanation of why L.A. traffic is better. He just says surface streets. What does that mean? Surface streets. I don't know what is better. He just says surface streets. What does that mean? Surface streets. I don't know what that means. You just say surface streets and that's your explanation. The local streets. Do you have an alternative? There's a way you can everybody. The big thing in LA that you've

noticed before is everyone whenever you're going to go anywhere, anyone everyone always asks, oh, how are you going to get there? Right. And then you debate how you get there. And they call it their stupid. This is what happens in LA. You sit outside your car and parking lot it's almost all in your friends are idiots it's always a game how you get from point A to point B in Austin it's basically nobody asked how you can get get there because it's one of way to get there done in Austin nobody shows up I said I said in Austin you always try to plan you if you're 30 minutes late

you're still the first to arrive you know you should always set a time when you're all going to meet. That way you know the very moment that every single person is late to the event. Because everyone shows up 15 to 20 minutes late everything. We also saw something kind of funny. We were driving down one of those streets, maybe Hollywood, and you saw an Ed Hardy store on the side of the road. And right because they have a store, like a whole store just for that shit. That's ridiculous. And we're kind of laughing at the Ed Hardy store two blocks later

another Ed Hardy store on the same side no way yeah not kidding it was fucking bizarre it's like Starbucks out there yeah yeah we almost didn't remember though that two blocks took an hour and a half to get that I thought we had gone anywhere we uh when I was in Seattle not too long ago with Joel. You were working on some work stuff. And where we were working one day, we went out, like on a Sunday, we went out across the street to a Starbucks, and it was closed.

You're like, oh, shit, the Starbucks is closed. Oh, wait, look, there's one right across the street. Let's go over there. Oh, no, this Starbucks is closed too. Oh, wait, look, there's another one across the street over there. We literally found four Starbucks all around that building and only one of them was open, but still there were four literally all across the street from each other at an intersection.

That's bizarre. You know why that is? Why is that? Because you can't buy coffee online. I saw the funniest thing that somebody posted on Reddit. It was a picture of a borders, which borders is now in the process of closing down all over the country. To the point where they're even so they all are they all close I think they're keeping a few but they're mostly close yeah I mean they're scaling back massively the one of bias is closing for sure anyway somebody posted a picture of the front door of a borders and it was a handwritten sign by an employee and it said no sorry we don't have any public bathrooms try Amazon like the biggest fuck you ever like thanks dickheads for putting this out of a job yeah why don't you go use the restroom in Amazon that's why that doesn't work out for you just pissing the bush buddy he's not bitter though no that at

all yeah I think all the borders in Austin closed and I think I think they're going to a bankruptcy Restructuring I think they're closing almost all their stores. They're gonna keep a few though handful Hey, did you guys notice that Texas is on fire like the whole fucking state? I noticed when we were landing our goddamn plane That's crazy. Yeah, it's on all sides of us the fire is yeah, well that's in the north west and east Yeah, there was a fire out near Oak Hill like near the Why last week homeless people burned yeah, a whole bunch of houses down on accident You know what I gotta say is I get older while fires must seem to be that big a deal like I've never run across a part of the country It's like that's the place that burned down. I remember the UK tan thing you remember the fires in the UK tan peninsula in Mexico

Yeah, like if I if we ever had a fire that bad, that would be nuts. Because that burned, I mean, who can millions of acres? It was insane. You remember that they- We had the smoke in Austin. We had the smoke in Austin, all the way from down there. And I remember flying between Austin and LA, that you could see the smoke in the air at 30,000 feet.

But aside from what it does to houses and people, I mean, fire is a natural thing that happens, right? Yeah. I mean, I'm not, I'm not pro-fire. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm, I recover from fire. And they recover pretty quickly. Actually, the house is regrow, I think. No, no, I said time passes and people. Everything else, fire is all natural, all organic. It's getting very, very healthy. It's like, why? It's like, occasionally, you just see these clips on the news

where it's like, oh, yeah, it's lava eating up some of the house. It's like something from a video game or a Michael Bay movie. You know, it's like like that something happened to those people You know, I guess they went off and had lava insurance You know I know awful so I wonder if you like you have to get a separate lava policy or that's included in their homeowners policy there Like do you live in the lava plane is it like? or like a hundred year volcano point or something it's it's I'm sure it is right I'm sure you live in the the you know in Sweden or something you have to have snow insurance in case

it cases you know insurance you keep well why not it would cave in your roof right oh man which I saw this crazy photo the other day I'm gonna I'm gonna get the country's wrong here but I it showed this channel of water between I believe it was Sweden and Denmark. And I guess there was a road that connected the two, and it was like a bridge above water half the way, and then it dipped down and became a tunnel, halfway through the channel. A half way through the channel, and finished as a tunnel. So you just see this road going out into the water and then just diving down into the water. Seriously? Yeah, something a roller coaster. Apparently they built it like that because they need big ships to be able to get by by still and they couldn't build a bridge in such a way to still accommodate big ships

Uh-huh, so to show off they built a road halfway and just built a tunnel under the rest of it Fuck wow dude. I mean can you imagine being in the tunnel with a big ships going by? It's like actually clips the tunnel. Yeah, everything about that on your tunnel It's just a bunch of water all around you. I try not to think do you think about that we're playing how high you are? You ever think about that? No, doesn't affect on me either You know it's funny one time we were We were taking off Jeff and I forgot what it was it was a long time ago But we were we were just taking off into playing and we were I don't know two or three hundred feet up in the air

And we started the place started bouncing start hitting some turbulence and you look out the window It still looks pretty close to the ground and Jeff turns turns to me and goes, well, at least if the plane goes down, we're still pretty close to the ground. We could survive a fall. I was like, what are you talking about? We're like 200 feet in the air. Balance, right? In Jeff's defense, maybe he wasn't talking to you.

Maybe he had Griffin on his cell phone. They were chatting away. Yeah, but being able to see the ground, that's mortifying. Like 800 feet up up a thousand feet up That's a scary distance, but 35,000 feet. I just don't have any perspective for it You don't see anything although there was a video posted of these guys who were essentially they look like they were sitting at the top of a flagpole On top of the tallest building in Dubai and it was I was I was ready to die watching the video

Yeah, I thought it was gonna Like 2500 feet. Well, I'd have no idea they were yeah, they're like technicians. They go up and no No, no, this is just dudes like they look like guys from Jackass Oh, I thought those who do's in Russia that did that man getting my Oh, I remember those Russian ones. Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, and that's a kid where the kid walks on the side of the pole And then there's the other one we're talking about with the radio tower where the guy climbs up. Oh, yeah, fuck that. Fuck that.

I'm getting freaked out just with the conversation. Yeah, you should post that video in the linked dump, Gus, where the guys are just climbing up the radio tower and just hand over hand rungs and the guys like, he's twice the distance of the Empire State Building up. Is that over the height of this year's tower at that point? Yikes, man. He was higher than 20 feet. Yeah he was higher than 20 feet. That's my cut off. I mean, I'm being generous. He was actually probably higher than where you and Jeff were in the plane when Jeff made that comment. Probably. The Burj Dubai roof is 2700 feet off the ground. Chaffel Miles, approximately. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. That doesn't count any antenna on top. You can almost punch the moon from there

So while we're talking about the way people drive and Jeff's bad habits on the plane and just things that we do Being bad people in the world so my wife and I got in discussion and sounds like Jeff your wife and you had a discussion about this recently About Godfather who do make Godfather for kids? Godparents? Godparents, yeah, for kids. And let's preface this discussion by saying, let's eliminate our family. Let's assume it's something happened to one of us that our children would obviously go with our family, right? It should be like, yeah, okay, should that be obviously that would happen. So let's take that out of the equation. Uh-huh. At what point when you guys die, where are mine your list? Like who do you, at what point do I get your kids?

Millie? Yes. Uh, do you really want to have discussion? I really do. I want to know, because we just, you guys came up an art discussion of like, who's going to raise our kids if we die? You're, you're pretty high up on the list. Who could take over this like monumental task of raising your children? Clearly only we can do. You know,? And where do you guys swam away?

This was just an episode of Modern Family actually. Was it really? Yeah. You guys are you guys are pretty high up there. Are we? We're we're in my above mat. Here's the problem. I like I like Matt's neighborhood better. My location location location. Am I above Gus? Yeah, because Gus wouldn't take Million wouldn't want. Gus doesn't want to raise a kid. No, I don't want to raise a kid. He doesn't want that responsibility. I don't want to raise my own kid.

Yeah. You guys are always talking about how you want a daughter. Well, got one. Gus, we could have a discussion with you two if you died. Who would you want to marry Esther? Be your Jeff. Awful. It depends on...

It depends on if Esther killed you or not right? Matt saying so quiet over there so I would just think is your wife would not want to have our kids because then she would have four boys Wait, that's the same discussion. We have with you guys four boys in the house. Don't be rough. You almost have a basketball team Yeah, look at him. No, no, you just have a fight that you break up 24 hours a day essentially with four boys I will say that you will get your ass kicked in a house of four boys. I guarantee she's a she's really low maintenance Takes care of herself cleans up her room. It's not a big than eat a lot But I mean people have these discussions all the time right all the time and you don't know the horrible things that are said about you As a base person right that your friends have about you when they discuss this like should we you know what if we left them with different griffin it's like it then you get to learn exactly what people think about other people

every good and bad that sounds awesome and then my wife answered no I was saying to you like you they have these discussions so you guys you guys made our list you'll know guys guys didn't make our list yes yes we're making the assumption that you don't want kids. No, I don't. Thank you. Thank you for eliminating me from the list. I made the appeal for you because I said that Gus doesn't have any kids. So we wouldn't have to worry about the issue of, they went to live with him,

and they would essentially be secondary kids, you know. Right. Oh, shit. They would be an additional burden. I didn't realize I had some advantage like that. Now, let me put a more positive spin on this guys If you made our list and something happened it showed up and you had to then take care of my kids Mm-hmm. Would you do that if I had to sure?

What if you were like it was between you and like somebody else and you thought maybe that person was okay But you weren't sure and that person was an orphanage Who was the guy that raised Webster what What ex-SNFL player was it? What? Dic-Dic Buckis. Was it Dic Buckis? It was. He's on the list. He did a good job with that kid. I want to know where I am on your list. I want to visit Bobman your list. Is man above me? Families above you. No, I can't say. It's a lonely family. Am I above Matt? Yes, you're at the top of the list. So if your family dies, I get Millie. So I have something to work for. Yes, you're at the top of the list. So if your family dies, I get Millie. So I have something to work for. Yeah, it's my first time here. How many family members are

above me? Can I beat them out? Two. Family members above you. Well, maybe one. Maybe one. See, we have the same issue too, though, because we have other people in a neighborhood that we know that live in similar settings and discussion was, well, it wouldn't disrupt your lives if they went over with these other people. Right. Wouldn't disrupt your lives. it wouldn't disrupt your lives if they went over with these other people right wouldn't disrupt your lives No, it would disrupt our lives Your men. It would just our lives greatly, but the kiddos lives it wouldn't disrupt them It's you and then Jack and then Joel Then that

Worseless ever no, no, no, I'm kidding now But it's really funny to when that does come up because then you also have, you start using some of your friends as a joke like, what about Joel? Hi, isn't that fun? I will say one thing, one thing that Joel would be more of a fight if he were at that. One thing that Matt and Anna have going for them aside from their neighborhood, which is I really like, is that Matt has a adopted brother. And so Millie would essentially be an adopted kid at that point.

And I would think that having the experience of being raised with another adopted kid would make that transition and process a little easier. Okay. Good to you. Something I think I thought about a lot. Looking deep thinking over here. I also don't know that anybody would want my kid, you know.

It's kind of a, here's my, I'm dead, here's my kid. And, you know, I think my baggage. So what's the other option there to turn or lose? War to the state Put a couple five dollar bills in her pocket and turn the loose so figure stuff out this smart kid should be a fair Okay, we have feelings in our neighborhood, right? She's like now. I feel like I've depressed you guys with this discussion It's definitely been a little bit of a downer feels like you guys have an extra bedroom, right? So yes, we do we do definitely been a little bit of a downer feels like you guys have an extra bedroom right so yes we do we do and I think I think you'd be good to go to

like with a mix would you now let me just be disappointed if you heard that there were other people with with who don't have kids in front of you would that disappoint you no I don't I don't feel personally like I wouldn't have my feelings heard if I wasn't even on the list. Do you and your wife have the same list? Do your list sync up? Fuck now. No. No, we don't sync up on that anyway.

You know what I mean? Like, we don't sync up on all the decisions we make of the kids. It's constant equilibrium between, you know, the way we operate. Like, you're very similar to your wife, Matt. Jeff, you're very similar to your wife. I think I'm the most different from my wife. Yeah. But in good ways, I similar, you're your wife. I think I'm the most different from my wife. Yeah, but in good ways, I think. Sure.

I'll say that one of the biggest things about who would raise a million, there would be, it would have to be a stable environment, obviously. And I think it would have to be somebody who has kids because I wouldn't want somebody to learn how to be a parent with my daughter. But is that someone who knew Griffin and I at the time that we died and really knew us well and could then tell

Millie the kind of people we were and who'd have stories and then she could learn about us from those people and that would be important to me. So you want your daughter to be raised by the podcast? Yeah, which essentially. Somebody who could sit her down in front of iTunes and you know, you could just anybody listening right now. It's essentially like this is my version of Michael Keaton in my life, right? He's making the videos, so his kids are like,. Now you're gonna give me all of a sudden. I'm gonna make you ball like a freaking baby.

Yeah. Thanks Bernie. Dude, I want to also be a funny discussion. It turns into like somber about it. I don't think responsible parenting is a good topic of discussion. We're recategorizing. I think it's funny to analyze your friends and make capacity. You know, like you wouldn't do that anything else, would you?

I mean, all the time. No. Just that. Yeah, so it's a weird discussion. It's a fucking depressing discussion, actually. Not even here, but I mean, just at home. Is it? Don't think about it.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, if at home, it's a real discussion. Here's a real discussion. Here's what I want to know. I would like to know, at what point did that become a duty of being a godparent? That's how I never associated with being a godparent, with being where kids go if the actual parents die.

I thought that was the whole point. I thought so too. No, I think the purpose of a godparent traditionally is that they become the spiritual influence in that child's life. Like you're designated, I want this person to be, like, help them develop spiritually. That's what I've always thought. God parents work.

And not this designation of this is where you'll go if something really bad happens. But it has definitely morphed into that. That's what people consider God parents to be. It's been that way my whole life, or at least as long as I've known about God parents. Did you name probably because of the Webster? But did you name God parents for Millie? I feel like I don't remember naming God. I don't think so. But that would be a major decision, right? Yeah. Yes. Are you looking at what God parents are? I'm trying to find a definition here. Or like the way it changed. You're going to find a definition here or like the way it changed.

You're going to need a lot of Marlon Brando quotes in this search. Yeah, I mean, you're right. I guess it started with, you know, definitely religious overtones explicitly, but it does say the modern, the modern view of a God parent tends to be an individual chosen by the parents who take an interest in the child's upbringing and personal development. Yeah, look, here it is right here. Appreciate it. Traditionally, godparents were informally responsible for ensuring the child's religious

education was carried out. That was a responsibility of a godparent. And for caring for the child, should it be orphaned? And for caring for the child, should it be, oh, true, should it be orphaned? I love the stuff in the comments. You just stopped at the comma. See, speculation just. I hear God parent five is going to have different form factors.

Did you see that the CEO of Tesla Motors said that he is going to put humans on Mars in the next 20 years? Yeah, he's SpaceX, right? Yeah. And NASA is doing a bunch of layoffs. And apparently a lot of people are going to SpaceX and some of those other like space corporations Richard Branson's one. And I heard really weird spacing of the day.

Like most of those space companies are headquartered on the Isle of Man. Really? Yeah. Why is there something to do with the way their tax system is structured? Or they know something we don't. Or they know something we don't. We should get a lot of I on a man like I don't but you have to wonder what's going on over there. Yeah kidding. Can you go to the

I'll man just man maybe see if you can look a flight. I saw that I saw I tested I saw a test of the other day I did too and Bernie and Bernie had a great and I had a great conversation about, which was it was an orange one that you saw yeah So there's one guy There's one guy that Bernie talked to before Bernie was looking at Teslas on the Tesla form or whatever No, that's not how I found him. That's how you found him. Okay. I found the guy through tweeting too hard calm Nice He was the top he was the top link on tweeting too hard calm and then I realized that he was only a block from our office Downtown Wow in Congress. What was his tweet? That was too hard. I'm trying to look it up right now

But it was it was all of it was about the Tesla which is how I learned about him and he said something like Gus or Jeff why don't you explain why I look at it? Why don't you explain what tweeting too hard calm is? Okay, well, he's looking at tweeting too hard is a brilliant little website where when you see like extra douchey comments or tweets on Twitter, you can submit them to this website and then it ranks them and shows all of the like the silliest, funniest, probably like most egotistical things people have passed. I think about passive use without realizing. I think at five of the top 10 at one point were John mayor right

uh the for instance the top all time tweet on tweeting too hard calm is oh mg i was saying how i couldn't afford the gas to fly daddy's jet to the river the summer and this barista totally rolled her eyes at me so this guy's this guy's number he's now dropped the number but but but five on this list Here's his tweet it was Fan belt light came on in the 9-11 So now I'm driving the Cayenne Turbo S the back up Backup car I'm trying not to Think about my Tesla

I think I found the guy also There's a few other choice ones here So Really? No, it just so, yeah. It speaks for itself. My credit score, God. He's got another word, this is credit score. My credit score is 74743, 742.

It's easy to get credit when you don't need it. So they have comments on them now. Look at this, Jeff. Look at this. So here is this. And I'm going to go to comments for this. So they have comments on them now look at this Jeff look at this so here is this English comments for this here's a guy the very first comment on this thing The guy says this was seems pretty pretentious to me was it a joke the guy who

saying that here's the top comment right there then watch this guys or watch this Jeff the guy who made that comment is above him. He's number three. And so this guy's on this board, commenting on other people's tweets, saying your pretentious. And his comment is, Scott, the number three is, I gave my cleaning lady a raise today, even though she didn't ask, as my own little contribution to fighting this recession. Awesome. He's got to know that when he was like, this really sucks. Lack of devorak support basically kills my dreams of having him. The iPad plus Bluetooth keyboard replaced my laptop.

Man alive. Yeah, Twitter, somebody called me out on Twitter just to the day for using Twitter after I've bashed Twitter so many times. Listen, I hate the internet too and I use the internet. It's a love hate relationship with everything. How can you not, though? Twitter to me is always just like, if you're ever in a line for a movie theater or somewhere and there's two people that are having a conversation and they're having that conversation too loud

because for some reason they want everybody else to hear their conversation. Yep. Because what they're talking about is so great. That's Twitter. Jason has a great story about that. Like that kind of a scenario where he was in LA and a guy in a Mazza Rade pulled up and valed and the valed open the door for him and he gets out and he goes, man, I was partying all night. Now we did his walk away from the start. It was like, he had to make a big announcement. He's like, you know the fuck it is, you would kiss it shit.

3pm on a Wednesday. Awesome. I just had to make the announcement That LA per capita they have real estate there is expensive and everybody drives it seems like Some kind of sports car in LA It's pretty crazy. It's true They drive a sports car to get stuck in traffic to go 10 miles into ours. Did we watch a guy in an escalator? Weaving in and out of lanes. No, it was a four door Porsche.

It was a four door Porsche. I'd never seen a four door Porsche before. He was like weaving a book while he was driving. It was unasturbing well. He was like, jup jup jup. New people on the podcast can't see this. If you're going five miles an hour,

it's probably not nearly as dangerous as it sounds. Not nearly. What did you say about that Porsche four door? It was like the midlife crisis car for soccer dads. He was like, I can't fully commit to the midlife crisis. for soccer dads? You was like, I think you can't fully commit to the midlife crisis. It's like, look, I want to be in practical, but let's be real.

Keep it real. All right, should we wrap this shit up? Sure, let's wrap it up. We're talking about what we're working on. Sure, why not? Well, I've been doing Porsche recordings for Ripper's Leuce season nine. Exciting.

It's been fun. I think people were excited during the video podcast when you said you were writing your lights for Donut. Yeah, and I got accused of doing some spoiler stuff, but in my opinion, we showed Donut in the trailer. I don't know how we can indicate any more that that character might be returning, you know, than to show them. It was also in a sponsor extra last season, right?

Yep. Yeah, but that doesn't apply. Yeah. Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but yeah, yeah, we had a sponsor extra that showed what happened to doughnut after wash shot him. And that was one of the sponsors from Revelation, right? Yes, it was. Had to be because it was tied into the armor lock thing. So that's what I've been working on lately, getting super excited about that. Cool. How about you? What have you been working on lately? I am finally after being in here for seven

months. I'm finally painting my office. Nice. I see you got part of a wall painting. I got part of a wall prime. We've got our new server guy starting on Monday. So I'm trying to get the office in shape before he gets here. Are you excited? Yes. Yes, James. I'm excited. And also working on some RTX planning as well. How's that going? Busy. Busy. Been a busy few weeks. Saw the well never mind. What are you working on some RTX planning as well. How's that going busy busy been a busy few weeks Saw the well never mind. What are you working on? Achieve a hundred like a motherfucker, you know that goes

Portal two videos right now doing all the Easter eggs today Matt You know Nathan and I this morning calculated how many frames per day we need to render To get this RV B9 ready, it's scared the shadows. Nice. So that's what I've been working on. Being scared. Being scared. Yeah. Changing your underwear. Yep, pretty much. Cool. Well, there you go. I turned our awesome intro to the most boring thing ever. Sorry. Round down one question. What are you working on? All right, well cool. Well, guess I know you're working on RTX, like you said.

Yeah. There's a lot involved with that. We're getting really excited about RTX, which is coming out. Yes. Tell me a very soon. Very soon, which is a tie to the stuff that I'm working on. I'm not working on as well, so.

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