Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #112

Episode Date: May 4, 2011

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Hey everybody, I'm a little froggy today. The double B's and the double G's. Yeah, you. So I hear you punched a girl in the face. Yeah, oh she deserved it. Look at her. In fairness to me, she kicked me in the chest about 30 times a couple hours before.

Why? We were... Monty was kind of capturing motion. I know, kind of. He wasn't really capturing. He was just like recording the way this actress moved as a reference for animation. And a part of that was her beating the shit out of me. After Monty kicked me in the stomach, which was awesome.

And we have the video of that. And so later that night, I accidentally somewhat had my face, or had my hand hit her face accidentally. Accidentally? It's not like I'm, let them mark. I'm going to find this video if you're getting kicked in the stomach now. Listen, dude, that never, never explain that away by saying it didn't leave a mark. That's not the way that she made that right. We had been drinking that night and she went from my phone to look through my photo album and I Rigorously Ressled that away from her. Do you at any point in this explanation? Do you want to use the word accident just to throw that word in there?

She accidentally fell and hit her head on the door. I call my fist the door. Yeah, when you say you didn't leave a mark, that almost makes you sound more practiced. Like I'd hit in girls. I'm just saying, like we're just scrambling for the phone. It was just like a ruckus. I put some soap in a towel and beater with it. Little teacher to finish her butt-toe slime. I apologize profusely. I felt really bad about it. So you're saying we're talking about it. I apologize to her. I'm not going to apologize to BT slide. I apologize profusely. I felt really bad about it. So you're saying we're talking about it. I apologize to her. I'm not going to apologize to any of you.

I'm not looking for an apology. I want to see the pictures though. Let me see your photo. No, I hadn't heard this story at all. Like, as I was getting set up in here, and I mentioned that I was going to ask you if you want to be on the podcast, Jack was like, ask him how he punched a girl in the face.

I was like, OK. So wait, what's on your phone? That's the important question. Right. Exactly. So obviously you've got some had to get this phone away from her. It was very important. You know, that makes so much sense that you asked that because I obviously didn't want one

person to know it was on the phone. Of course, I'm going to explain it on a podcast. You don't have to show us just tell us. You might not want a girl to see it, but it might be okay to show someone that you work with who's not a girl. So don't you think? Along with everybody. Show me and I'll determine whether I can take a look at it. Along with everybody's not a girl. So don't you have any? Along with everybody. Show me, and I'll determine whether I

can take a look at it. Along with everybody. No, no, no. OK, listen. Now it's my goal to get that fun. So that's what protected. You're so concerned about what you have on your phone. Yes.

That you punched a girl in the face. I leave a mark. It's a puncher. It gets past where protected. Why did you punch her? If she was going for the phone too, if she would have just been like, you can have your phone back instead of stealing it from me,

none of this would have happened. So your phone is password protected then? Or not password protected. So then she couldn't get to the pictures. Well, no, no, I was showing her a picture and then she took it from me. And it wasn't like, hey, let me see your phone. It was, ha ha, like she grabbed it.

Yeah. And then I got frantic and I was like no no no no I mean that back do not go through that so you're pretty sure in the time that I've known you which just a few years now you've lost two phones no I haven't lost a single phone well you definitely lost one I lost no I lost one for like four or five days and then oh no no no I broke the first one right you won't and then I lost the second one under My couch so back to my original correct story you've lost two phones no no no It's you don't lose it if you find it again. Do you have it leaves you leave your possession? It leaves your no don't leave a mark striking range, right? I mean that's not far away your phone So why would you keep anything on the phone that you're worried about if you lose them so frequently?

I don't lose them frequently. I didn't lose either of them. I broke one and the other one was in my apartment. Yeah, but still losing. No, the last pass were protected. Then you trust that. I always think is you have this mobile device that you're keeping obviously very sensitive materials on. Yes. Is it new sensitive materials? So are you a spy or a pervert? Uh, can you be both?

You can hear those initially. That's a great question. You can be a spy pervert. That's true. The sneaky pervert. So I have since made the deletions from my phone. Oh, you have? Yes.

So why don't you give us the phone? No, you trust me? Why don't you give us the phone? No, I don't. Why don't you give us the phone? He does a problem. Be level stuff we can't see. Yeah, there's other stuff too. I mean, there's just like a lot of conversations you have with people that you don't want other people to see.

I'll just look at the photos. The other day, you know, I'm leaning towards pervert because the other day I was out here. I didn't disagree with it. I was out here in the state. I was out here getting coffee in the morning and Brandon walks up and goes, Hey, I put a picture of your ass in your folder on the network if you want to check it out. So I was going through our cards to clean them out and the first picture I find is just a picture of me, I don't know, messing with some boxes and I was like, who the fuck took that?

And then the next picture is the same place and its Gus's ass. I didn't take the picture. I was just making it available to Gus. That's not a nice surprise, right? You're just like clicking through all of that. I think Gus is ass so many times. But in my defense, I don't know why I'm defending myself. When I finally did look at the photo, I determined it wasn't me because my Atari tramp stamp was not on that person. If you go back and look at this ass, do we have no? It's in my user directory, if you want to see it. But it was like on that person. If you go back and look who's asked who we have. I don't know. It's in my user director if you want to see it. But it was like it's huge. It's like a 20

megabyte raw five. It was also shot in raw, which is the highest level format. We're like 4,000 by 2,200 million. It preserves a lot of the color information and the a lot of the exposure information for optimal ass display. Was it 4K? That was it. I was doing camera when we came in on Gus and the food immersion and

I don't know if you remember that Gus, but you know you stood up with your your pants down at your knees And I was working camera and I was like I can't turn away We were editing it you had to focus in zoom Yeah, we're editing it. I was trying to cover it up I like a I don't know something covering it and the Chris was like no No, no, it's way funny. You're gonna delete it. I agree. No, it's not so we kept going back and forth and having a watch it and rewatch it Which is because it's bare ass It's ingrained in my brain, which is why I I was sure it was you I thought it'd be I would like the expert you know it's worse than that

We were doing ages ago when Gavin was staying with us because he used to do these dumb little videos. And we did one called Rain Run, where Jeff hurts himself running in the rain, because he had to compete with us. And at some point, he came out of the shower and he drops the towel accidentally, he's moving it. And he completely flashes full frontal Gavin, he's running the camera, and then Gavin later has to edit it.

So he's trying to put the sensor bubble or something over Jeff's dick. Like any like frame by frame like without looking at it somehow. I'm sure it was a very small bubble. It didn't take many pixels. Be great if he accidentally looked at it and then Brandon runs on the room and punches him in the face. But it's an ongoing thing now. What are we looking at here?

It's loading up. Oh, it's loading. It's going ongoing thing now. What are we looking at here? It's loading up. Oh, it's loading. It's going across the network. Just loading up the preview on my laptop across the network is is taking a while. Yeah, that'll be so it looks enough like you're asked to make you actually have to scrutinize it. Well, I was like, I was curious. I was like, who's taking pictures of my butt. No, no, no, he was a he was disappointed afterward. Yeah, but but whose butt looks like Gus's butt. Like I can't. I was I was actually a little insulted that Brandon thought that was my butt. Oh, okay. Now here we go. This is where it comes down to you. It was not a good butt. If you want to stay I've got it over here. It wasn't Gus's butt.

I can't see it all. I have no idea what that is. I'm gonna see that. You're looking at butt to me. Oh, it's somebody leaning over. I got it. Yeah. I don't know what that is. I'll put it in the link dump so people can people can investigate for themselves and figure out who's but it is. We might have to do that. Protect someone's identity. Maybe you can upload that to Google and we'll tell you who it is using your little app thing that you wanted to.

Oh man, speaking of which, did you hear, I heard this great website, I forget what the domain is, I'll look it up, but someone rolled out a website where like let's say you get your digital camera stolen. Let's say that. And you leave your iPhone. You want to get your camera back. There's a website. It's stolencamerafinder.com.

You can upload a photo that you took with your camera before it was stolen. And it finds the serial number in the metadata. And it goes through like flicker and photos on the internet. And finds other photos that were taking with that same serial number. And you can find if there have been new pictures taken with that camera. Really? And see them if they've been uploaded to the internet. Isn't it, isn't now terrifying in a way? Like, I love technology and I love everything that's possible, but it's also frightening. Like there's, you can, you can't get away with anything. Like there's somebody wanted to find you, they could find you like. Does the iPhone store location on the images that you take you take pictures?

It says where the first time you lunch the camera app on your iPhone I asked you if you want to let it use location services and if you hit okay then yeah GPS coordinates are embedded in photos That is surprisingly accurate to like it'll go to what room in the house you are Yeah, now if you if you look at Google maps like oh, it's on my property, but it's in the corner where I am. On the map, it's super easy. You pull up the info on the photo, and there's a GPS tab, and you can click show map, and it shows the crosshairs and zoom in on Google Maps, and shows you exactly where the photo was taken.

People do that location services on their tweets, too, which I just... I don't like all that stuff. Did I ever tell the story about this was a few years ago when I bought my wife a new car and I I do that I do that kind of thing for like she didn't go. She just told me what car she wanted so I went and bought it the car because I figured I could talk to the sales guys and you know she wouldn't get railroading but they they learned that I was buying a car for my wife and There's that stupid fucking process when you say okay, I want this car. I'm gonna buy this car And it's a six four hours. What is that? What are they doing the worst?

There's they're sweating you out. Yeah, I think you should go and be like listen I will buy this car if it's if we're done at by this point I have tried that and I Have established a price on the phone before I go to the dealership and you're still in that Backroom drinking drinking shitty coffee for three hours while they do whatever they do. I think they're just running a background Jack on you or something like that. Anyway, then they pull you in After like you sit there and you watch Jeff. We should watch more of which which is exactly right Because you always watch when you're back there and And so you back there and watching more povage drinking to the coffee and

they call me in and they go to the typical stuff like extended warranty you know undercoating and all that garbage that you always say no to and they got to speak with your brain's car for your wife and i said yeah and then he like polls on his computer and he shows me this thing he says we can add to the car

a gps tracking device and here in you can subscribe to the service on the web and you can follow the car. He goes, normally we just offer this to people buying cars for their teenagers, but a lot of spouses, you know, if you're buying the car. To your life. Oh, damn.

You can see where she's gone and how fast she's gone and how long the car stayed parked somewhere in all this. Oh my god. Oh my god. And he goes, and it goes, and he goes, it's a $750. And I goes and it goes and it goes it's $750 and I said yeah, but I think I just saved $750 because I trust my wife. Yeah, such a weird, weird, creepy conversation.

I'm sure sales line wasn't. It's legal. It was pretty much like that. Yeah. Is there an iPhone app that you could log in and check that information? Yeah, I mean, you can track somebody pretty easily if you wanted to. I mean, you really, you could. I mean, you can track your iPhone anywhere working. Yeah, you do mobile me. Yeah, you do mobile me. Yeah, just see if I get some hubbub about that where people just realize that like a week ago or two.

Well, yeah, it's more that the location was actually stored on the phone in a like a local database file. So, so it wasn't so, you know, yeah, you could see it remotely, but if someone recovered your phone or I guess if someone like dumped the data off of it, they could see it before you've been. Do you know that they can, at the FBI, this is about a big part of the, I don't know, whatever the organization is that tracks down organized crime, but they can just take a cell phone in a room and they can just turn it on. Oh yeah, I think, and it becomes,

I'm sort of up that time. It just becomes a broadcasting, like they can just say, okay, we know the serial number of the phone, they work with the carrier, and they just turn your phone on and listen to you. Yeah, even if your phone's off, they can still activate the microphone and listen. Yeah.

Like the only way to defeat that is to actually like physically pull the battery out of the phone or not have a phone there or not have at all Be like Paulie from good fellows and we talk on payphones You know face-to-face stuff where nobody has a cell phone in the room. Yeah, that's crazy It's unbelievable. We were looking at the Google satellite view and we saw our building and it had been painted and We only painted her building probably about four months ago So within four months they refresh that view how often do they have access to that satellite? Like, it's not real time,

right? Like Google just can't just watch people walking around. I mean, does anyone know how that works? Supposedly, you know, Obama was watching the operation live with the so-some have been live in operation. That's military stuff. You posted a picture, I think, right, in your journal? Yeah, we're there in the situation room. Yeah. That was crazy photo. Mm-hmm. That was really crazy But were they getting updates? So did they have like a live camera feed? They don't show what they're looking at and in fact there's a piece of intelligence that's on the table. That's very clearly blurred and Yeah, they I mean from what I understand they were watching it live

Not if they're watching it from like an overhead satellite view live or they might actually be watching live video feed from like the shoulders of the guys I What I read and who knows if you know what they're saying is true from what I read satellite view live or they might actually be watching live video feed from like the shoulders of the guys. I, what I read and who knows if you know what they're saying is true. From what I read, they couldn't actually see like first-person view. Like so when people entered the compound, they didn't know what was going on. There was a bit of darkness. And they said, do you hear the code name they had for Osama Bin Laden? Yeah, Jeronimo?

Jeronimo. Yeah. We're thinking about naming a favorite Edison Jeronimo Ramsey. Really? Oh, they say yeah. Ben Laden Ramsey. I don't know. Oh, Osama bin Ramsey. I think this is a fairly recent satellite photo of our office too because everyone, the only person parked in front of the building is Matt. Oh yeah. You have a policy that everyone should park off on the side of the building to save the front parking spaces for visitors. Correct. And Matt. Is he in a handy car? park off in the side of the building to save the front parking spaces for visitors. Correct.

And Matt. Is he in a handicapped spot? Matt parks in the front all the time. No, he's not in the handicapped spot in this picture. Why do you think that is? I don't know. Why does he immune from that? You think he just wants to park in front?

He just wants to park in front. I park in front today just because we're running spaces on the side. We are. Yep. We need to paint some more spaces or something. I'm going to Home Depot to deck and buy some traffic paint. No work. Okay. And a roller. We can. Yep. We need to paint some more spaces or something. We do. I'm going to home depot a deck and buy some traffic paint. That'll work. Okay. And a roller. We can do it. Do we have to do it yellow? Well all the others yellow. I think it'd be better to keep it consistent. Where are they white?

I think they're white. I'll buy whatever we need. I thought they were yellow. I'll buy whatever we have. Too much. Okay. And I think you imagine you're gonna be the the most serious lines ever before we're painting. No, I have experience and they're not gonna be shitty You're experiencing parking spaces? Try using traffic paint. Yeah, cuz I did that. I did play our markings Oh, I like it. I'm so yeah, I did that recently, but that was child traffic, but we did lines. We did lines We did like a four square and shit Four square that's an actual game. I thought it was just an app. You should really never play four squares a kid No, are you serious? Did you ever go outside as a kid?

No. I was allergic to everything. But when outside I'd die. Yeah, other kids, you know, they play games together. What's four squares like? Like a mascot or something? Four squares awesome. Yeah, you have a ball that you've like bounce and you start, there's like this, you start in one spot and then you have your goal is to get

all the way around the squares. Do you get to the like the king spot? I don't know what you call it, but you have to get to the fourth square, and then you're running the show. So there's four squares? Yeah, you serve, I think, when you're in the fourth one, right? You're the servant, you see?

Yeah, I mean, you have this bouncy ball, and basically you'll slap it, and it'll hit the ground and go to another person, and then we'll have to slap it back at some point else. So if you mess up, you go back to the back to the... Yeah, like if it hits the line line it goes out like you're out Hmm, and then you get 20 million dollars in venture capital funding

As part of that is it that's is that can last that was I remember you and I and Griffin got on four square The application yeah, we got on about the same time and gave up you gave up because I was winning I gave up and like I gave him like three. That is the shortest I've ever used any trendy application ever. I used it until all of my friends stopped. They blocked me on Facebook because they're sick of getting the alerts to find out where I was. What I was using that I never linked it to that. Isn't the point just to be the king of one place?

The mayor. The mayor. Yeah. I was the mayor of some cool places too. I was the mayor of the IMAX, which is like the lamest mayor of all place. The mayor. Yeah. I was the mayor of some cool places, too. I was the mayor of the IMAX, which was like the lamest mayor of all time. I was the mayor of the coffee shop next door, our old office. I was the mayor of my allergy clinic. That's one of the problems though. You could basically log in to anything that was within a half mile of you, right? I mean, you didn't have to. Yeah. Nathan would always like, he did it, but he only would log into one place, and it was like someplace near his house,

and lame like, what was it? It was like a convenient store or something. It's like a jiffy loop. I don't know. But because it was in his like area, like he would just log in there like, weird times. Yeah, it's funny, because we just, we're talking about being tracked,

and how that's such a bad thing, and we look at how people are so willing to track themselves for everyone, and then put it out there. The internet's like almost completely flipped from when I started using it like in the 90s where everything was anonymous And that was what was great about it And now it's like everyone really wants the attention They want people to know exactly where they are what they're doing at all times who they are

It feels like there's a big shift at some point. No. Yeah. There's even been talk about making people have ideas on the internet Like you have a registered you internet ID so they eliminate anonymity eliminate anonymity, which there'd be absolutely no way to enforce that. There was a website a couple years ago, I think it was called Robmy, and it was just this guy who aggregated all this information of people who were saying where they were at if they weren't home. And the whole point was, look how stupid this is, somebody can just come and rob you, and then people got mad because they're like, you know. Thanks for pointing out the obvious. Well, that's mad because they're like, you know, thanks for pointing out the obvious.

That's something we always worry about, you know, the kind of related to that last night I was reading the news and I saw that have you ever seen that that store there's a place like errands rentals, they'll like rent you rent to own furniture and computers and stuff like that. Yeah, see, I see them all the time. Apparently, somewhere in Pennsylvania, I think it was in Pittsburgh this couple bought a laptop from Aaron's or rented to own a laptop and then decided to buy it. And there was a mix-up and Aaron's thought they didn't pay so they went to repossess it. And when they showed up to repossess it they were like you know using this laptop you haven't paid for it. Look here's pictures we have of you using the laptop and they didn't sell spyware on the laptop so they could activate the camera and take pictures of them without them knowing it. Wow. And they were like we already bought this and they didn't sell spyware on the laptop. So they could activate the camera and take pictures of them without them knowing it. Wow. Oh, man.

And they were like, we already bought this. And they proved they bought it. And now they're suing errands for installing this spyware on their computer to take pictures of them whenever they wanted. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, it's part of the reason why you just described

is why I never buy or sell used computer hardware. And I know I lose a lot of money, but not even selling my stuff, but I'm just convinced that someone can just extract data on it, you know, that I'm gonna be the guy who, I'm gonna wipe my hard drive seven times or whatever that military formatting is that they do. But I'm gonna be the guy who sells my eight year old,

PC to some Croatian hacker, you know what I mean? It's like, he's the type of guy who lived on the street that bought it, you know, PC to like some Croatian hacker. You know what I mean? It's like, he's having the guy who lived on the street that bought it, you know? So like, I don't understand why I'm the only one that would never want to a PlayStation I or a connect. Like, I don't want to put a camera that's connected to the internet, just like sitting there,

just watching me in the living room. You have the camera on your laptop? No, a map book. I do things. Yeah, do you have any things there that I don't? Do you cover the camera on your laptop? No, I don't. I do. I do. Do you trust? No, I don't. I wish I had a cover on it.

Yeah, that'd be nice if it had like a little sliding cover. Yeah, I cover it from time to time. Yeah, I go to phases where I have a cover. And then when I have a video cover, it's taken off and then forget to put it back on. Yeah, whenever I'm jacking off, I always make sure it's covered. Do you really?

I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Um, I've got some, uh, some cool software for my laptop that allows you, I think we had talked about this before and now on the podcast though, but it allows you to track your laptop via a website. Yes. And activate the camera so you can see, so if you're laptop stolen, you can activate the camera.

So you've taken it screen share without them knowing, see the screen, and then you can also flash warnings. Like if they take it into the store to get it repaired, and they leave and you see someone using the laptop, you can flash a, please call me, message. What's your thing, too, where you could have it just start shouting. Yeah. Like this is a stolen laptop, and then the person can't shut it down, so they're in like a coffee shop and they're, if you're a laptop, it just starts calling for help. I don't know this person. Help me. That's my purse. it down so they're in like a coffee shop and they're, you're left top, as soon as he starts calling for help. I don't know this person.

Help me. That's my purse. But you know, it's so funny talking about like what you were saying earlier about like crime and I just, I just, it's hard to, after our experiences with trying to get our crime issues taken care of. I don't think people are like, there's no one monitoring like, unless it's like some major crime thing, like, I don't think that any of that stuff gets used. Well, I think it's more like you would know where it is. Yeah, the reason I got this so like, I see on a map where my laptop is. I have pictures of who's using it. No, I think that's,

it's great that there's that we have all this stuff for us. It's like you and yourself as opposed to. But that's like when when Jack got robbed, the only reason that they caught that guy is because you figured it out. Right. And then even then, you take your sorola, Austin police department. After you got all of the information to the cops, it still took like weeks to get them to even do anything for it. Yeah, it was a long time.

I'm pretty sure it was a recipe for something else, wasn't he? Yeah, he was, yeah. I don't know how much we were supposed to talk about. I guess it's already done. But it's already said and done. Yeah, that's just bizarre to me. It was sad when you got the death penalty though. The fucking electric chair.

But it goes back to the original point too. Let's say they do have all this data. Let's say people track where we go and watch what we do all the time. Who the fuck's gonna parse through all that? You know what I mean? Like, you aren't that interesting. No one wants to know.

I'll tell you what you really said. I had a laptop stolen, you know, from me. I had a smashing grab. And I like braiding, you know, from me, I had a smashing grab. And I, like, braiding, you know, with his phone, punching a girl in the face for wanting to look through his photos. I realized when the laptop went out, I was going in my head, I go, what do I have on there, you know, and I could, I had a way to like,

pull out the email and all that stuff. So, and I don't archive, I'm one of the best people like getting rid of stuff after a short period of time. I only keep like, very recent stuff on there. And so I knew I didn't have anything dangerous or damaging on there. And I realized, that's pretty fucking boring. I got nothing.

I got nothing dangerous on my laptop. It's like, I'm not worried at all. I have a, I slept very easy that night. And I was disappointed by the fact that I could sleep so easily after my laptop was stolen. What is the worst thing you've ever done? What is the worst thing I've ever done? Why would I tell you that? What's the worst thing you've ever done? What is the worst thing you've ever done? What would I tell you then?

What's the worst thing you've ever done? No, I asked you first. What's the worst thing you've ever done? Have you ever committed a crime shot? I've committed a crime shot. You love these games. No, no, no, it's just your logic of I asked you first. I've committed a crime.

How is that not a valid crime? Let's incriminate ourselves ourselves you're on the podcast. Oh come on. It's I've committed many crimes I've he has it everybody at one point committed a crime. I mean that's a pretty kind for broad Speeding this morning. Where you do you have to That's the work on time wait easy to crime if you don't get caught Yes fucking cops and I like here's like all this starts on the fucking cops. Oh shit No, I'm really upset with Austin right now Because you're talking about the whole crime thing and how we still haven't heard back from the detective that was apparently in our case But there's like 80 like 80 cop traffic cops out today like all over Austin

It's like very motivated to pull us over and give us tickets while we're paying you know, I don't know that should be a separate force They should not they should not have people who enforce traffic laws be police officers. Like they should be like, like, a meter made double. Yeah, because you don't want to like, yeah, because right now we're going to be like talking to Millie like, okay, well, if you're ever in trouble, find a cop or whatever, or find a police officer. But at the same time, we're like, when we're in the car, we're like, oh, there's a cop, like sounding nervous and what kind of impression are you giving the kids if you're like, everyone's kind of scared of the police.

Why are you nervous? What are you trying to hide? What crimes have you committed? I'm not. I'm just like, impression are you giving the kids if you're like everyone's kind of scared of the police. Why are you nervous? What are you trying to hide? What crimes have you committed? I'm not. I'm just saying like- It's the worst thing you've ever done. A lot of traffic stops can turn into something worse. You know, I mean a lot of times those- Especially if you try to go through your phone. No, no, no, no, no.

Those high-speed chases often start with just a simple traffic stop and then people freak out. Because they have something or there's a worn out for them. I'm one of these days I'm doing that. I'm just going to that. There's another cops waiting for, right? As soon as the lights come on, he's like, it's going to go. There's kind of those penalties are getting different, different for people who run from cops and then get in fatal accidents. That's always terrible, dude.

There's one here on the street by our office a couple of weeks ago here on South First. A fatal accident or a high-speed chase Both is a high-speed chase that ended with the person running from the cops Plowing into a bus station and killing someone good bus stop. I should say yeah, man. That's dude. That's that's terrible Really terrible, but I agree with a griffinous saying is that because I mean we all unknowingly break traffic laws all the time or we think we are it's like we're so I'm not confident of my driving skills where if I see a cop I go oh he's gonna whatever I'm doing wrong right now I have to stop yeah that's my first initial reaction and it does lead to whenever I see a cop my initial reaction is

oh shit and that shouldn't be yeah I mean there should be like oh thank God there's a cop around in case something happens I should should feel safer, but I don't. I feel like I'm about to get charged $300 because of my bad luck. Well, I mean, it's indicative to like the world you live in. Like, you know, you're not, you know, live in a bad neighborhood, you don't work in a bad neighborhood. You don't feel like there's crime around you

where you need a cop. So when you interact with a cop, most likely it's gonna be because he's giving you the ticket. But I mean, if you lived in a bad neighborhood, whose crime was rampant, like if you lived in that world, I think your perception of cops would be different. But now a cop is just, all they go is $300. Professor Brandon over here, fucking breaking it down. Just saying, like it's just, I don't know if that's always true.

You're a different, what are the sociological implications? You don't know in my world it's like, you're making assumptions. The guy who has nothing and criminating on his laptop. Yeah, what's your world? Where the model from Tennessee picks up your phone? You can't handle it. Help me. You can't handle this shit. She saw my before pictures. She saw Brandon 1.0. Is that what was that what it was? Can we ask questions about what was? No, was can we ask questions about what was no was it photos was the concern

Um, I'm not answering anything. Just answer They're gone anyway, but what's the fact you care? That's true flesh I just admitted to being a criminal criminal You never tell me what did you do? I got I got like moments gone. Yes, first Bernie. That's a law. That's a law of the playground.

I'm curious, if, the main thing I'm curious about is, are they photos that you took or photos that you added to the phone? I, they're not embarrassing photos of me. That's all I'm going to say. So you took them. I'm not, that's all I'm saying. That's it and they discussion. Why? Like why not tell us? You'd be more interesting if you told us. Oh, then I guess I'm not interesting. Yeah, you're interesting. You just be more interesting. That's just like the dumbest lunch. That's not a mess logic at all. You're not coming to my birthday unless you answer this question. That's the same thing.

Why come in? Okay, let me ask you this. Why come in? Sit in on the podcast. I'm not fucking sitting there. I'm getting bricked up. I'm coming here to be like, I have such cool stuff on my phone. I didn't bring it up. You're fine with what's talking about hitting women. That's like, it's rolled right off the tongue. That's fine. I swear officer, I didn't leave a mark. It's not going to affect her model. Hey, she and I are cool. I didn't leave

a mark. Look, I have a picture to prove it. Don't look at it. Is there anyone who hasn't committed a crime? I don't know. Carey, maybe because it's so young. How do you get to your teenage years and not commit a crime of something? I really wish that I had it like teenagers. I really I didn't do I was very very good But why like that's the time to do things and get away with them. Carrie may not have listen out of kids never leave them Mark Carrie may not have committed a crime, but he's been there for crimes because I've seen his friends and they're all punks He's got some cute friends. No, they got them all hot. He's dragging me for crimes because I've seen his friends and they're all punks. He's got some cute friends. No, he's dragging it. Listen to this.

She ran to people and convinced us. They're friendly, nice people. No, no, no, they're punks. They're punks. They're punks. One of the kids came and he hung out with us a while. Then when he left, I was like, carry. I don't like the way your friend talks to you.

You like his mom or something. You can do better, carry. We just want the best for you. But like they're in a commuter and start skating all over a property. Are you an old man? It's a great, it's a great get into it? How about every person you worked with at TSTV? No, no, no. How you think they're all, they will work so hard and they all take care of administrative stuff and they helped you so much.

No, you were at TSTV. I love those guys. They drove me crazy. But I still love them. Hey, Brandon, I'm thinking about paying one of the new interns. What do you think about that process? No, no, that's a whole different thing altogether You do not pay interns in this business. You upset the balance

There we go the world because why would you have paid somebody for their time? What the hell? Brandon, man, you he pitched a fit when I was talking about the thing. Oh, I could tell I saw the fire I've been wanting to talk to you about that It's like when you when you give $20 to a homeless person in downtown We've seen what happens there Everybody comes calling Listen, I don't know what say by the we talked about we actually we you were it was just part of the video podcast where we talked about that right? Yeah, he was he was not here

Yeah, it was a video podcast We talked about how I would give money and talk to the homeless people in the drove everyone else in the office crazy Rose is Rosie his name is a guy with one leg who sold roses and I got to be fast friends with him and He still owes us that fucking leg Gus and Jeff didn't like that a bit The guy I I would sometimes leave the office and walk to my car through the alley just to avoid him I knew the alley was too steep for his wheelchair. You shouldn't be back there.

The guys at Jimmy John's didn't like me either because I would go to lunch with them sometimes I'd buy him lunch and they'd be like don't bring him in here. We gave him an asshole and their defense he was an asshole. He was an asshole. They came in Tuna right? No no fucking penguin. He We go to a sub-eat I say I'll buy I don't know if you can say something. Let's come Rosie with the hell. I said I'll buy a lunch Rosie

Today, I said what do you need and he goes? He goes get me get me a tuna and I said because they know the way I'll like it I said okay, you got it and then so is he can with me, but he would eat He couldn't he bread of any kind so he would get just a big lump of tuna That's what it was it was a big lump of tuna wrapped up with a sub-rapper. That's what he gets Brand is right and Jimmy Johnson They'll wrap it for you in lettuce or something, though. Like, what do I forget what they call it? He was probably pretty picky. He probably didn't like the lettuce.

Oh my god. I'm, it's okay. I'm sure you can say his name. I'm sure he's not listening. Sure he's not either, but who knows. I don't even know if it's the name that he gave me. It was his true name. I'm sure you didn't get his real name either. He's like a, like a litch or a magical creature. If you know his true true name hit the feet. him.

Interesting dude though. I mean, you don't know how much what he said was true and all the time I talked to him. But I mean, while I while we were down there and knew that guy, he had open heart surgery, which how the hell how the hell do you pay for it? I have no idea. And he had a girlfriend broke up with her,

found a new girlfriend and got married. He got married. That's all bullshit I saw the lady I saw the love on my me a me can say that was her That's her across the street. She's working in the law office She was in Canada He wouldn't know her Oh Oh Man put a fucking character. We know I cruise somehow. I still believe it to like I always think that even no matter

What a guy's position is in life There's always a woman for him you know to me like you'd always find somebody That's that's except for Brandon last night We had a couple thing and he couldn't get it together. I know We invited you if you had a date and I almost took to Twitter to find you a date for that We invited you if you had a date and I almost took to Twitter to find you a date for that Shit without embarrassing. No, no, no, that would have been so awesome Are you are you looking right now for all the ladies listening? I am I am not looking for the 5% of our listeners Yeah, now you know the hits girls If anyone's interest when I put up that 14 year old picture of myself or myself as a 14 year old. Yeah

Some ladies. Some ladies. Comment it. No, National Geographic Channel has this show called Taboo that investigates like weird things that people are into. Yeah. And they had the segment, which is on YouTube, and I'll link to about this grown man who I think is 28 who only acts like a baby when he's at home. He dresses up, he sleeps in a giant crib that he made,

and he has this woman that lives with him who's like a nurse and who takes care of him and acts like his mother. It's really weird. I think you're right. There's somebody for everybody. There is. That's when I saw that. That's exactly what I thought.

I was like, I saw that woman come in and I was like, there's no matter who you are, you can find someone. What are the matrix brothers, the Wosheskis? Yeah. Did it one of them hire a dominatrix to dominate well one of his now woman Yeah, that was the one before he did that he lived like a live in dominatrix. Yeah, that was his I wouldn't say his wife, but she was his long-time partner who has a time for fetishes I don't just like that seems like so much work to me like coming up with like a

Weird sex fetus that I have to like and then this guy built his own crib built his own high chair And like it was a lot of work like I mean you did a lot of shit take me could happen. It's playing right there I don't know if you can see it makes you happy. It makes you happy I get you off like the one thing I like about the internet too is like if if people Like something or have a particular interest especially like a weird fetish They can find another group people who like that as well if people like something or have a particular interest, especially like a weird fetish, they can find another group of people who like that as well, which is like,

that's a good thing, I think, because if people are like harboring these things and then they feel like they're alone in the world, that's where I think bad should happen, when people feel isolated and they feel like they're an outsider, but if, you know, I mean, they, you know, as long as there's hurt anybody else, you know, whatever they wanna do, but, oh, man, there's sometimes I'm like, I mean, you know, as long as there's hurt anybody else, you know, they do whatever they want to do

But oh, mate, there's sometimes I'm like I hear about all this stuff I don't have I don't think I have any fetish at all like I don't think I have any of them like on any level And I that's another thing is like am I completely uninteresting that I don't have any of these things? Yeah, you got nothing on your laptop. You're I know I know not a sexual deviant I'm on your jet-spaned the. The Jets coach is doing these feet-means. Oh man. I don't think we ever talked about that. Now his wife was in these foot fetish.

What was her username on YouTube? Was it like pretty feet lady, O5 or something? Yeah. Yeah. It was bizarre. You got to guess it, nothing at all? I'm partial to boobs. No, I don't know.

Where's the line of what point is that a. No, I don't know. What what what what point is that a fetish? Yeah, like what's outside the norm the UT of UT newspaper does these polls every year and it's like 80% of UT students say SNM is their fetish And it's like these kids have no idea. Yeah, well There's so many degrees. There's definitely There's an extent and at what point are you really the true definition? Well, there's like I think when you're the Gimp when you're living in a box I Sipper across your mouth. I think at the point of time when six at a 10 people would see something and say that's fucked up

That's that's a finish. Yeah, I think it's whether or not it leaves a mark. I think that's That's where the line is like I'm good as gold There are did you guys see the other day the some people in Japan invented a box that can simulate Kisses over the internet what? The fucking earthquake and tsunami and radiation shit didn't stop a man. They're still doing it They're still living the dream the invented a box that can simulate kisses over the internet Really, so like you can actually does it do everything the other person's mouth is doing? I'm not sure exactly how it looks saying it looks very rude or mentry.

I don't really believe it. It looks like a box with a straw. So I don't know how that works. But that could work. Like if you could get some kind of robotic mouth that just mapped everything that you're, I mean, but it seems weird. Like why would anyone go through the trouble? But why would anyone build a crib and live it as a baby?

That's true. Right. If you start making out with it, will it lead anywhere else? What else can this straw do? If you start making out with it, will it lead anywhere else? What else can this straw do? As long as you don't hit it. Come on, baby. As long as you don't leave a mark. Leave a mark. Yeah, it was have your head cyber sex. Gus. No, I don't know about that. Do years ago when you were still on dating There was somebody who posted a

Conversations we were all sure it was with you. like a private conversation. That wasn't me. I don't know man It sounded like I remember who you're talking. No, I mean that's different. You can have conversation No, but if that's the conversation that was posted what was not posted? No, there was nothing there There's there's a weird phenomenon though that in Text or chat People say things he would never normally say in person or on the phone. You know what I said to you? Oh completely. I always wonder what that is. Why is that about text? It's because all you have to do is just, you know, trying to mime it, but just tap some keys in the enter. It's it. Like there's no courage in that. And you're not really, you're not staring at

another person's eyes. Like you can't see their facial expression. You're just looking at a computer screen. It's saying anything you want. I don't know if courage is because you're still saying it and it's still you. And then there's a record of it. But I don't know. I mean, you're a writer. I mean, that's that's rationally that's true. But I mean, it's just an issue. You don't feel inhibited. Like you don't feel intimidated because you're staring at a computer. Yeah. When you have time to think of it too. Like you have time to like put together what you're going to say instead of trying to like, wings and like dirty talk or whatever, like that doesn't come naturally to some people.

Doesn't come that you are correct. I just not come naturally to some people. But I think it's yes about the writing thing. In general, I think chat is probably the most efficient form of communication. I, Brian, I know you're like this too. I hate talking on the phone. I hate people who want to have a phone call, I'm like, no, please God, don't do it. I fucking hate the phone. I hate the phone.

I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone.

I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone. I hate the phone. email, there's almost a sense of formality that you have to honor. At least I feel that way, where you have to like, hello, how are you, all that, you don't get a chat. It's like there. I mean, you know, that's all you get. Do you mean like chat like, like I chat,

or do you mean like texting? I combine both of those. Text and I chat are the same thing to me. I think that text is different. I mean, when you're having like an aim conversation or whatever, it's a lot more rapid and it's like back and forth and you're kind of expected to respond, you know, when somebody sends you something, text, I think's a lot more like you can wait a while before you respond

Like it's not as immediate so I kind of like text more because there's a little bit less of an expectation to immediately respond I just like if people get to the point because people don't like, you know typing on their phone Yeah, don't draw things out. Just tell me what fucking you to say. So I think at the same time when you're having some kind of amorous sexy discussion too People are just more efficient. They don't like you know, they don't beat around the bush when they're you know texting stuff Literally orfidgeting easy Like a pubic air right exactly Which I get the thing I don't get is people who send pictures back and forth. You're a fucking maniac. I do that.

You've never done that. Fucking maniac. It's fun, though. It's fun. Everyone does it. Everyone does it. It is true. Everyone does it.

And it's like stuff can get out there. And you'll just never, you never see it. I don't. I don't. Just. Here's my solution. Just be proactive and put the naked pictures of yourself out there to begin with. Just go to the Ramsey house

Sit in a chair naked and just uploaded to the internet get it out of the way. It's done Yeah, it's like a same the iPhone page right now now that you said that I think they consolidated like there was an iPhone Babesight there's an Android babesight like all the different phones and I think they just combined it to like mobile babes now Something like that I'm still subscribed to all the different Twitter accounts if you you just do the one, you get all of them now. It's really simplified my life. One of the positive sides of like sending sexy photos to yourself to people is that you're now like you're required to be nice to them and not fuck up that relationship. It's like collateral. Yeah, you're exactly right. There are some people that I have to be very nice to still. I'm always gonna be around to be like, oh hey what's that Pesu day? That's funny. It's like some kind of weird

collateral or blackmail It's awesome. Yeah, it's absolutely true. What's really? Would you have to be nice around now? Oh? You don't know him. Oh These fucking jackasses too. It's like I can't believe when people post that stuff online like after they break up Oh somebody that's horrible. Yeah, it's just like the worst thing you can do to somebody What what do people think when they do that kind of stuff? I mean, it's just like even in the short term Oh, let's let's just like eject morality

You're just like putting that out there. You're gonna do that and so you're not getting more photos from anybody else Yeah, you know, I think that the the lesson you've to learn if you're going to do that and so you're not getting more photos from anybody else. I think that the lesson you've to learn, if you're going to say, what do you call it, sex thing or whatever, like if you're going to do that. I hate it too, but it's the word that has been designated as the word. So if you're going to do that. But the same people who designated the rule where, if I ask you first, you have to answer the same body of that. That is an old, that's, come on, that's established.

But anyway, if you're going to do it, that's, come on, that's established. But anyway, if you're gonna do it, you just have to make sure you look good. Like you have to put something out there that you're not gonna be unhappy for a love that a lot of people will see, I think. That's why I had an Xbox controller in one hand, a beer in another. You wanna be represented the way you- My legs were crossed very lady-like. So Bernie, you were saying at a concern that other girls would, or other people would

insend you naked photos, that's why you shouldn't do that, right? Absolutely. It's like a hobby, like collecting baseball cards. No, you're just a big binder of life. You're a girl, but you're cutting yourself off the knees. That's all I'm saying. If you do that kind of thing, you think you're getting back at somebody else,

but really you're just saying a hell of a lot more about yourself. Yeah. Speaking of which, I'm gonna turn on this email that I received just before I came in here. Sure. Oh yeah. I got this email. And this is the most egregious version of this particular email, but listen to this brand and I'll see what this is.

Okay, so I got this email sent to our business email address and the title is YouTube Revenue Sharing on RBB Video. This is Hello Rootchey Staff. I have a bit of a predicament. Sounds interesting. Excuse me, please. I have a YouTube video that has the ability to be revenue shared to see the picture attached, but it turns out I need permission if it's copyrighted content.

The video is Red vs Blue Revelation Outtakes and it's on my channel da da da da. It would be fantastic if you would allow to make a few bucks off this video. Thanks your time, hope to hear from you guys soon. Also, keep up the great work. And I went and looked at the video. It's just a rip of our outtakes from our Revelation DVD. Yeah. And the guy posted on YouTube and he's like, He's like, can I make some money off this please? I mean, I mean, I didn't even add narration to it. Didn't add his own outtakes.

Like, didn't like make his own, he added nothing. I put your DVD up. Keep deserves some money for that. What the fuck? I mean, is that where we are now? That's the craziest thing I've ever heard man I love how he just says keep up the good work so I can keep you know posting your content and making money So that's just that was just insane. That was really insane. I can't believe that. That's crazy Like is it a joke? I mean it can't be real good. No, it's just a dummy basically. Yeah, but basically what a boy was down to You wonder if that ever works It's a dummy basically. Yeah, but basically what a boy was down to. No wonder if that ever works.

Like if that's worked for him in the past, let's just start ripping every DVD we own and uploading. Well listen, if people like make something, like when we on YouTube, if they take like best of moments and they make their own thing, edit their own thing, then they're doing something with it, you know? Yeah, like we definitely have policies where we don't enforce those copyrights it, you know? Yeah, like we definitely had policies where we don't enforce those copy rights for,

you know, remixes or like music videos, like we've seen a lot of different compilations that people have done with their stuff. It's really cool. I mean, they're definitely creating something new, but just... I'm not... I'm not... I'm just gonna email back right now. Did you... did you check to see what else he had posted? Like, if he had anyone else's, like, property? Up? No, I'm not on care about that I mean, you know, I'm sure I'm already back to you say hey dude. It seems like a real hassle For you to have to rip the DVD videos and post them

How about if we just send you a check every time we make a video. How is that? Does that work for you? Yeah, is that we can I get your address please? Is direct deposit okay? Or man, I mean, it was just it was really just a straight pull just a straight rep of it. Crazy. That's really, really jarring. Really crazy. Hey, speaking of things that are surprising, did anyone see the G4 announced their new show? Oh God. Tell me more. I'm intrigued.

I'm super excited. It's going to be awesome. It's called Proving Grounds with Jessica Chobot, who you might remember from nothing. I don't know what the hell she's from. And then Ryan Dunn, the uninteresting guy from Jackass. And they have a show called Proving Grounds. It's on G4 and where they're going to take video game concepts and they're going to test them in real life.

That sounds a little familiar. Also stuff from movies and things like that as well. That sounds kind of familiar. What a great idea. Wait. Go ahead, Griffin. When does it come out? I don't know, sometime in June.

Who knows? It comes out last year when we debuted at a Paxi. I always call them, I always call them. You know, Paxi's Quintetang is when it debuted. Well, you know, they do say that they say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, right? These ideas are just out there. Any ether, just picking them out.

I guess unless it appears on G4 in which case it's the suckiest, least watched form of flattery. People who put it on YouTube, and then we're just asking for permission to revenue share it. It's nice to see GeForce equivalent of the video right? It's the same thing. It's like hey you mind if we have with us on is that cool with you guys? Did they announce how many episodes it is? No, I mean why would they do that on G4?

I can't wait for the food one. I'll wait them up in the middle of the night and make them eat food after their hunger over. I mean why don't you say it's gonna be a million episodes? I mean, what difference does it make on G4? It's like, it'll come on, nobody will watch it, and it'll be canceled, nobody will notice it. Do you know anyone that watches G4? Brandon? No. I don't think I do either. What, you take enough, what's on G4? Drifting shows and... What do they have? Did you go to where you used to run, uh, reruns a lost? That's on right? Fuck if I know. I used want to use to run reruns a lost? That's on right? Fuck if I know. Doesn't...

I used to watch G4 for reruns a lost. Which is probably not their key. I'm going to G4 now. I'm actually leaving the iPhone baby to go to G4. So if my browser revolted, we know what that was. I'm pretty sure iPhone babies came up in the podcast. Whenever we found it, you know, just it for those of you who didn't know. I think Bernie found this website

and it kind of derailed work for half a day. I think it was like literally Joel and I just like scrolling down and down because you keep scrolling down on the website and more girls keep popping up. I don't know what kind of technology that is. You think people are getting prettier? Yeah, because there's more product, there's more surgery, there's more of everything.

And people are more willing to take photos of themselves and get them out there and I guess you see them, right? It's kind of actually having fun. I didn't have never really tried that hard when I was younger, but now that I'm doing makeup for Rupert Heath like I'm learning about what's available and what's out there It's actually pretty amazing like there's product for everything. You're working up preeding up the worst canvases in the world You gotta make this look But the worst is that you guys fight me at the same time like I got all this like skin care stuff for everybody and told them where it was And nobody wants to do it like you won't let me touch your hair That's my thing like yeah, but Joel fights me to like Joel will be like telling me like how much makeup to use and like don't

touch my hair. Who didn't wash their face? Oh yeah, you set that the other day. It's that. I don't want to like, I don't want to do it. I don't want to be very soon. Yeah. They probably don't send it to the podcast anyway. Is that okay? It's somebody from your team. That's fine, I don't care. It's probably Chris. The silent signals that are not translated across the surface. Yeah, so anyway, if you would like to encourage them, we have a bottom bunch of skin care. I labeled it for people under 30. I labeled it other stuff for people over 30. We have that hand sanitizing station upstairs.

Maybe that person could just hand sanitize her in their hand and rub it all over their face next time. But we have a bunch of like, like, exfoliants and stuff. So if you- A whole-o-shower. We can, like, I was just there for people to use right before they would put makeup on, but if you want, like, if everyone uses it daily, it'll make your skin like nicer, which means let's makeup and looks better on camera. So, I'm just putting that out there. It sounds like a lot of work. That sounds like girl stuff. You know, it is- it is work, girls should work into looking good. Yeah? Then should do the same. I know. I work on making my

bank account look good. That's, that's the mainly equivalent. Well, girls do that too. Okay. I've been tweeting lately about my man chair that I have that's in my house. My wife and I have been going out a lot more lately. We made more of a commitment to do that. And also, you know, it's just like after, you know, nine years of babysitting every night, it's like, get me out of the house. But I've been tuning with the mantra, which is the chair that I have in my bedroom that I sit in whenever I'm done getting ready to go out and I have to wait for her to finish getting ready to go out. I was actually pretty happy. We were two minutes late getting to the restaurant

last night to see Jeff and Griffin, which I think is in a window of acceptability for being late. And that's false. In a few minutes, yeah. Yeah, two minutes, that's something. We were there at 802. That's crazy. And that's good for us. Parking was actually challenging around there, so.

Yeah, we used the valet because I mean that's a restaurant where they have they built a restaurant. And I think they have about eight parking spaces for that restaurant. How can they do that? Who knows, because we couldn't do it when we moved in here? They wanted us to have an astronomical number of toilets at first. Well, we thought that, and we talked them down, we thought we had too many, but they're always full here.

There's so many times where all three bathrooms are full. It was gonna be like one person for toilet. Yeah, it was a ridiculous number. Label it. I was gonna put a desk on one of them and just work there because we were going to have so many. The crazy thing is we were talking the other day about the initial plans for the building and how we had the renovation all laid out initially. It turned out entirely different than what we expected. I mean, just because we had to modify for building code and toilets and things like that.

We actually like the way it turned out, so thank you, CDO Austin. You know, it's one of those things where it sucks when you're going through it, but in the absence of all that stuff, it's garbage. You know, you have to have that because we're complaining about we went to a restaurant last night, and then we had eight parking spaces for the restaurant. And it would suck it, man, if you lived in that neighborhood that's right behind that restaurant, the cars just line the streets, parking to go to that place. Yeah, I used to live behind a popular restaurant of Lake Austin over there. And it was the same deal.

The street was always like parked cars on each side. It was terrible. Griffin took us out to a really cool thing last weekend like on Saturday. Me and I took you to places that we couldn't even sit down at, like the bars. Well, it was a fun part town. Did you get winded with us at the dinner and all that stuff, right? Oh, is there? Yeah. And that was interesting. That was a fun part town. Did you get wind up with us the dinner and all that stuff right? I was there. Yeah, and that That was when the incident happened the phone incident. All right I think you're knocking people out. I was talking I was I was a I was a set of when we went to a bar and Griffin's like, okay guys, this is where we're going. So we're drinking. I'm like sweet

I haven't had anything to drink yet. So I went to the bar open up a tap get a drink and then I come back and everybody's Leaving I'm like, what the fuck were you guys going? Yeah, there's no where to sit. Yeah, and where we go after that? Where'd we sit down after that? Yeah, no, it was, I was actually surprised. I haven't been there. It's just been a few months since I've been down to those bars, but they've like tripled the number of people that are there. My tab is still open there. I did not go.

Really? You didn't? They gave me my card back, and I was like, like I am not gonna go back there after I told this guy That I'll be back for more drinks and tell them I'm leaving if you don't close your tab They close it for you and give them just like a $20 tip or some standard. They're not gonna give it to me They might they might I worked at a bar. They don't do that not a bar restaurant bar Let's just Benigans all all restaurant all restaurants and bars have the same policy, so you're probably, you know, good.

They're not going to put $20 on my... Anyway, anyway. You're not going to sweat it. No, you're not going to spend any time worrying about that. Not $2.0? Good, I like that. Let that just slide right off, man. Forget it.

I think you're working on $2.1, though. Yeah, I'm working on $2.1. We're not there yet. How do you know if you're there? Abs. Oh, OK. You're going to say it like that. That didn't come out.

You're going to say it like that. That's really better. I think you're diminishing the power of the abs. I think you're going to know it. He's trying to get him to have his 14-year-old fighting weight. Is that where you're headed now? Yeah. Why are you posting pictures yourself when you're 14?

I found an old picture of when I was in junior high. You guys said pictures when you guys were babies right on your younger you were like there was a space where like I think everybody posted a baby picture I thought the 14 version myself was pretty funny looking I was you did the kind of like as a goof yeah yeah good well the way you were reacting positively like like these ladies yeah okay I'm getting positive attention

here I mean if someone if I posted a 14 year be picture of myself and a bunch of ladies shut up We're like that's super happy like who the fuck are you people doing this? Yeah, we were making fun of how there's just like no girls that listen So the good reaction I did get was somewhat green So okay win win there, you know, I I who, he was actually a friend of mine's father who had been married for a long time, let's say like 14, 15 years, they got divorced and my friend was in his teens. And he had remarried this lady and they had been married for years before I met them because I met him later in life.

And I went over to their house and he had a picture on his desk of the new wife, right? New, but they've been married like 15 years at this point. But the picture that he had of her was when she was like 20, 25 in that range. And they're now in like their mid 50s at this point. And I was I thought you could have possibly known her when she was 20 or 25. And it seemed this isn't like a weird thing like that was the picture he chose to be the marquee picture for her was younger when he didn't know her. When she looked her best.

Well, but he didn't know, yeah, it's like I would have a picture, like I have pictures of my wife when we met, but I wouldn't have pictures of her when she was like 18. I think the one picture I have here on my desk of my wife is probably was before we met and must have been like 21 or 22. Mm-hmm. How old was she when you met? 27. So you have a picture of your wife on your desk of a younger age when you ever knew her. Yeah. Interesting. I was talking about you so I'm glad you brought that up. I wasn't actually so it's interesting. I have a it's kind of depressing but can you go get the picture so we can look at brought that up. I wasn't actually, so that's interesting. I have a, it's kind of depressing, but fun. Can you go get the picture so we can look at it?

Sure, because that would make sense. So I go ahead. Oh, my mom passed away recently. And when I went to the funeral, we had a bunch of photos and everything up of her. And there was one, I think it was her graduation picture, like I had never seen it. And when she was 18, and it was a very pretty picture.

And at some point, Jeff noticed that somebody that she knew like this younger guy that they had been friends, came up and looked around, made sure no one was looking, and took a picture with his phone of my mom at that age. And it really creeped me out, like it really creeped us out that he was like taking some picture for when she was younger. Like who knows why he did it? Maybe he was doing it to show people that they knew together?

I don't know. But it's weird, right? That seems creepy. I was going to say that seems insanely sweet to me. Sweet? Yeah. I don't know. It looks like she's seen like you're right for it. Your wife, your wife looks this age now. Like you're I would have guessed you took a picture yesterday. Yeah. Your wife is that's your wife is 21. your wife is Aged extraordinarily well. I Don't think it's weird to have pictures of people in their younger if you know them like if they're people that you're that you care about Take it easy

Let me taste up Brandon taking a picture of Punch him in the face. Yeah, let me say it gusts will leave a mark to See this rain fucking little even impression right there so Did you see the photos of gusts and Jeff that were sending by a fan? Do we talk about that from dream con? Oh, no, I haven't I keep me gonna make a journal I haven't made a journal about it yet, but Someone sent me pictures of Jeff and I at the first ever convention we ever went to for for Rucho teeth. It was back it must have been like in April or May of 2004 and we've told a story

before about how we went to the first convention ever. We didn't know what to expect and we know we did a panel and you know I brought some merchandise into suitcase and we sold it in the hallway of the hotel and you can see pictures of us selling stuff in the hallway of the hotel and you see the suitcase that we're selling stuff out of uh, in these pictures and I look like I'm 15. Yeah You and I both have improved with age. I look fucking terrible. Was it in the f**k? Yeah, yeah, it's awful I actually came down after you sent the photos of the email I came down to specifically tell you and Jeff that you guys look better now seven years

later than you did then. Jesus, it was, it was, it was jar and it was crazy. I said that they looked like, if you ever saw the far side cartoon where the sheep is going on the blind date and the boy sheep set the door and the mother's like, oh, look who just got shorn today and he's like lost all of his wool and he has a little bandage is all over. He looks like he can set all this wool shaved off. That's exactly what you guys look like I look like Christian bail in the machine. It's like

We're just fucking walking skeletons It was not to get Jeff is like all ears. Yeah, it's something that you don't often notice about Jeff You guys have the same barber back then I think right yeah, we did that old barber shop off of old torque just east of Congress Use that what's that vacuum thing called the flowbeat flowbeat that's what he used any guys yeah the guy retired a long time ago I don't but it was great I'll make a journal and hopefully by the time I post his podcast now I'll link to it and show some of those pictures this is this is a photo my wife that's when she was she in that picture she's holding

Teddy it's like right after she had Teddy. She looks 12 in that photo. Yeah, she looks really young. It's crazy crazy Did you I feel like this isn't getting much press, but did you hear that they've been lotting? Yeah What happened to be on it Sony had a second intrusion on one of their networks? Say what it's down Sony online entertainment got hacked this time. Really? Not PSN. Man, this is, they're targeted.

Yeah, and it wasn't as big of a deal, but I guess like 24 million accounts were compromised this time. Jesus. And like 12,000 credit cards and 10,000 bank account numbers were taken. That's crazy, dude. Yeah, they're definitely being targeted. It's so funny. I read an article when that was all going down and Brandon, you want to have this response here pretty soon is the official Sony fanboy in the office.

But I read an article that the somebody was saying that in the wake of the Sony hacking attempt or you know, intrusion, that Xbox was beefing up their security as well, and they're making announcements about it today. And it was just a normal don't fall for fishing, like announcement that Xbox 360 put out there. Wasn't anything like, they were trying to like, say this was not a parody thing, and it's like don't give anyone your birthday,

don't give anyone your password. It's a very innocuous lame security announcement. I was like, what are they doing here? The one, I don't know if it's related to the PSN outage, but I'm very happy that Hulu finally came out on the 360 last Friday. I stopped caring about the PSN outage once Hulu came out. The second I got Hulu, I was like, what?

I'm all good. Take your time, Sony. What was Hulu on the Sony network? Yeah, that's what I almost exclusively what I used my PS3 4 was watching Hulu. Jeff was really excited. He came up and he was like, Hulu is available and he went and grabbed when he went to try to watch Wipeout on the television because that's what he and Millie watched together. And of course, you can't get it on, you have to go to your computer for that one.

Yeah, they have a weird, like, it makes some sure it makes sense to them. They have a tiered system where some stuff's only on the computer, some stuff's on devices and some stuff's on mobile. And it can be any combination of those three. Everything that he wants to watch is only on the computer, some stuff on devices, and some stuff on mobile, and it could be any combination of those three. Everything that he wants to watch is only on the computer, so it hasn't benefited him. Wait, can you see those on the phone though? He used to be a little watcher. I'm really angry at you. I'm legitimately angry at you. Okay, let's hear it. So, I actually do research for the podcast to have things to talk about. You would never guess it by how many things I get wrong, but I actually do research for the podcast to have things to talk about you would never guess it by how many things I get wrong

But I actually do research One of the things I did for research is I like making fun of my wife and Griffin as well for liking young guys like Robert Pads and all that stuff So I'm on my treadmill. I gotta watch something. So I think haha. I'll watch this shitty show super natural Oh, you love it. I'll watch this show and I'll watch these hairirless guys running around hunting ghosts. You can be the stupidest neighbor watch. Fucking shows great. Yeah, and now I'm so bad though. It's so bad. And now it's like six seasons. And I'm like, I'm the first scene in the pilot. You can stop the horror. Don't do it. The first scene in the pilot is awesome with the mom and all that. And it's like, fuck, now I'm fucking hooked on the show. And I wanted to watch it and hate it and make fun of

griffin for it. And now I'm watching the stupid show. The show is good, but it derails and when it derails it derails badly. And I'm committed because I'm going to keep watching it. I'm in like halfway through season six. And it seems to be getting a little bit better, but you may not want to watch past season three. Where was this show on that it lasted at least six seasons? Is it still on the air today?

Yes, season six is happening now. Okay, where does it air? I watch it like through June, so I don't know where anything is. Isn't that weird? I mean, I don't know where anything lives. I have no idea what day of the week modern family is on, but I watch every episode of that show. I show up.

Yeah, I wouldn't be able to, excuse me, I wouldn't be able to tune into a new episode of Always Sunny in Philadelphia if my life depended on it. But I watched every episode of that too. Supernatural airs on the CW. I was gonna guess that CW. CW used to have Veronica Mars, another great show, I think they had that. God, I like a CW show. But I know I love that.

I guess it's right. Last week it just got renewed for the seventh season. Oh really? For the 2011-2012 season. Well hopefully the second half of season six will be better. I hear from, according to Twitter, and people on Twitter, it gets better. But they also told me that season five came back and that never happened. McGee is one of the executive producers.

Yeah, isn't the executive producer? Yeah, executive. I'm trying to find, like, you can get calendars, but they have their clothes on, so I didn't see the point. But I'm trying to find a poster of them. At least Dean, because he's, you think Dean's better, right? Listen, the reason I like the show is another reason she like, you're just got dragged in.

I want to make this perfect and clear. You know, fucking torn down. Sam was better, like in the beginning, Sam was my favorite, he was cuter, but he got less cute. OK, I'll be ready for that. I'll be ready for that. This won't defer to your expertise. Luckily, that won't take me off guard.

It might be the most relatable conversation ever on the podcast. Do you want people to watch that show? Really? A lot of people do, yeah. Six seasons, somebody's watching it. Yeah, people are into it. I mean, hell, they cancel everything these days,

especially if it's got a sci-fi premise. It's like, yeah, it's like if you took Buffy and X-Files, mixing together, but had two hot guys taking their clothes off the whole time. And when it was Buffy and the X-Files against but had two hot guys taking their clothes off the whole time and it was buffy in the And every episode has a new heart and every episode has a new hot chick and it's like the breaking hearts across the country It's very true like the first the whole first episode They had like one of the some one of their girlfriends was like in short shorts the entire time You've changed and a half shirt and a half shirt. You've changed. I've changed in what way?

You haven't known me very long. Yeah, cuz favorite show all the time was Felicity on the WB I wore like a badge of honor But now I'm so vindicated by that because I was a JJ Abrams fan and I kept talking about them when a Elise came on the air Like this guy fucking JJ Abrams fucking awesome. He makes all these awesome shows You knew the band before got big I own I own Abrams.com. For a while. Remember that? No, I don't remember that. That's funny though. I did. I just love to expire because I'm cursing. I was going to make a fan site. Yeah. So I'll go look right now and see what's on JJ Abrams.com. Did you have you taken a look at the interactive super eight trailer that came

with Portal 2? I don't watch trailers. Okay. That's a weird thing. It's not watching. It's more like... You don't watch trailers? Walking around in the trailer. I don't like to either. Because you find out way too much about something. Yeah, the new Harry Potter trailer came out. Yeah, I will watch Harry Potter because I already read the book so I know what's happening. But I don't like seeing like trailers of movies that I'm interested in seeing.

Because then I don't know they're just too long and they just... You can guess everything from the trailer sometimes. Yeah, but I mean, you know, you don't really, well, you don't know if you're interested in a movie. I'll tell you why I did this too. You know, the title. This is why I changed my policy on trailers. When I was 16 or something, like I went on exchange to France.

And so at some point, my host family had a bunch of movies that were like American movies, but they, Yeah, and they had a movie that was ending, it was like American movies, but they yeah and they had they had a movie that was ending it was an American movie but it was at the bottom they had like French subtitles and I didn't know based on the title like I didn't even read the title we just put it in and I was watching it I have a half way through I'm like this is amazing I don't know what this is but it's amazing and then I found out late like about halfway through it it clicked for

some reason I didn't pick up on it earlier but it was a shashank redemption and I hadn't seen yet and after that, but it was a shashank redemption. And I didn't see it yet. And after that, I was like, I love just watching something and then not having any opinions formed already for me, because at that point, I'd already heard, oh, it's such a great movie, it's so amazing. And I would have had like my expectations set at a different level. I mean, that movie wouldn't find anyway. Yeah. But since then, I don't want to know about it. I don't want people to tell me too much. Yeah. Everyone thinks they're not spoiling things, but they always do.

It's true. They're even spoiling stuff when they say, I'm not going to spoil anything, but wait until the last five minutes. You're like, how the fuck can dumbass? What are you doing to me? Now you're expecting something, or you're looking for it.

Yeah. Because the way you think about it. Yeah. I still don't even say about when we, whenever we make narrative content for the web too, you don't realize what an impact having a progress bar makes on the way people view things. Because just knowing where you are, you have a sense of that when you're

sitting in a movie theater just because stories tend to have a very, very similar structure, but you can still have moments in there. You can have a one to two minute subterfuge that goes on where you're doing something with the audience or playing with them a little bit and if that If you still have a minute left on your progress bar in your video, they're like, oh, I know something else is coming I'm watching this. It's weird to have that concert monitor But I guess books have always had that he was a more pages left Yeah, that's almost like a progress bar too though when you're reading a book That's upset. Yeah, yeah, I have that word, you know, you know how close you are at the end Right all the books I read you just flipped around different pages

I never read a book Like a cheese or an adventure. I used to be a really big reader Close you are the end right all the books I read you just flipped around different pages I used to be a really big reader. Did you really like what was your favorite author? I came close to saying Arthur but I didn't Was this a kid series by this guy named Brian Jacques and it was called the Red Wall series And we're basically adventure books, but all the characters were animals. But it was, that was my favorite. And animals, animals were fucking awesome. Brian Jacques. And animals?

Yeah, animals were like, it's size five. So when you say you used to be a big reader, you mean like until you were seven? You were here? No, no, no, I guess until junior high. So about the time that picture was taken that you posted that you're so proud of? Yeah.

Until junior high. So elementary school, you were a big reader. I was a big reader in junior high midway through junior high I stopped reading what did you switch to what was what was your new thing working? No not reading What about you guys? What what would it be read on your younger? I've always hated reading really I've never really been a fan I'm I when I was a kid kid, probably the same age as Brandon, like elementary in junior high, I'm sure I read a ton. But. Like goosebumps.

No, I hated that. I think I was a little too old for it. I think it came along when I was already. Yeah, my brother was into them. It was kind of like a few years after me. Yeah. Mm. When I was really little, I remember reading,

like when I was in elementary, I remember reading like all the encyclopedia brown books. Yeah. Really, this is it. Like we're talkingopedia brown books. Oh yeah. Really? We're talking about kids books. Yeah. I was a kid. I was an elementary.

I mean, I've never read as an adult. You never very limited stuff. Interesting. What about you? You was your favorite author. Well, when I was a teenager, I really like Stephen King a lot, which I'm not too proud of anymore. But he wrote Shawshank Redemption, you know, and I read all those short stories.

I think it's one of his Bachman books. I read it, John Appe read all those short stories. I think it's one of his lockman books. I read a ton of peers Anthony. I did, yeah. Orson Scott Carter, a lot of sci-fi asmol, if you know Ray Bradbury, you must have read that. I read sci-fi. Seeing if you're Anthony Jeff, and I just ordered a spell for Camillean.

No, yeah. Yeah, we're gonna read it together. Are you really? You guys know that's a review that goes read books together like that. It's too wild. You, do you want, can we talk about this? That your name is Griffin because of your situation? No, and we can't talk. Oh, God. I shouldn't

have brought this up. Okay. I want to talk about it then. It's not because of that. You guys are assholes. Let's just drop it. Griffin, Griffin, when she was a teenager, she had a penpal relationship with Peer's Anthony, who is a guy that I read a ton as a teenager. It was, with him or somebody working for him. Sure, sure. And it wasn't like, you know, you weren't sending pictures. I don't think like that. It was pretty well-known for the internet.

He sent drawings. And so that's why Griffin, her name. I just liked Griffin's, but yeah, I sent him some character ideas. And one of them was part Griffin, yeah. So you sent him character, she's the A-R-A-N corporate. Aren't you included in one of his books? In Harpy time and then Yann Ilwind there's another some other character ideas, but he like like halfway through the series

He pretty much all of his books were just written ways to figure out how to incorporate all the fan it was just fan service Like at halfway through the books really yeah, it was just like and then in the back would be like a whole like Several pages of just thank you to people who wrote in and suggestions or whatever. Well, you ever read sci-fi? Can that's more fantasy? Ever read sci-fi stuff, Grana? Yeah, but a lot of it was like his sci-fi. Yeah, yeah.

Or like fantasy sci-fi. Like his incarnations of immortality series or the adaptation. Well, I read those and I read some of the ad-up series. And he wrote Total Recall. Peer's an air, OK. You're right. So he had some sci-fi, but a lot of his sci-fi was like a mix of fantasy and I and he wrote Total Recall. Peer's in there, okay. You're right. So he had some sci-fi, but a lot of his sci-fi was like a mix of fantasy and sci-fi.

Which up to you guys? I don't think what do you do. Oh, sorry, we're talking about books. Yeah. Anyway, you know, it's one of those things too. It's like authors that you like when you're younger, not to disparage Mr. Anthony, but as you get older, you like, you look back on it, you're like, you know, wasn't the schedule your movie influenced by the Incarnations member?

Yeah, on a pale horse? I would definitely say so in some ways for sure. Yeah. Because I read that when I was younger. It's not, you know, you wouldn't, anybody who read that book and liked it would not see any similarities. I don't think aside from the death aspect of it. Where's a guy on a pale horse is a book about uh... guy who is going to kill himself he's at the end of his rope and it's a point in the future where magic has been rediscovered

as an actual and i want to like science but yeah it's like uh... it's a field of study and it stands on par with science in this world that he's created anyway goes to kill himself and uh... in the moment when he does somebody walks in the room and he panics and shoots that person and it turns out he shoots the Grim Reaper and He has to then take the place of the Grim Reaper. That's how that office is passed on

Mm-hmm You know because it's associated with death and so he takes over the office of death and he has to go collect souls that are in balance, right? Like people who are close. That's not a really long time. He collects souls that are in balance right? Like people who are close. Not really a long time. Collect souls that we sit in balance. Yeah, they're close to good and evil. Like they're not good enough for evil enough to take care of themselves. I feel like there wasn't that book kind of almost like vignettes where it was like everyone's little like life story and then he would go like encounter them or was it more of just about him.

I don't know. It's one of the times when I go. And in that series each book was covering another incarnation, like another being or person, you know, like, there was a guy I want. Like another incarnation of death? No, no, like, like, I don't know, like, what would you say? Like a figurehead, like, yeah, like time is one of them. One of them is like the fates or fate. Like, and then there's, yeah, chronos or whatever. Yep. And then more. And then there's yeah, Kronos or whatever. And then the last one, nature is one of them. And then fate, and then he even goes to God into Satan as well. So he covers like the five major ones. And God and Satan. Okay. No, I kind of want to get on a pierza and then he could get it. Yeah, sure,

sure. I mean, I enjoyed those books when I read them, you know, I just don't know, I don't think they would hold up. I don't know. Like I had to stop reading those answers because a lot of his like political stuff started steeping in. Like he kind had to stop reading those answers because a lot of his political stuff started steeping in, like he kind of had some anti gay comments and a couple of his books and I just had to stop reading. Oh, that's rough. Yeah. Yeah, that's rough.

Yeah, and also we like, a lot of his sex stuff. It's creepy, it's like always 14 year old girls. Yeah, it was appealing to me when I was that age and then older I was like, when I went to go back and reread stuff, whoa, should I, you know. Yeah, and then you see a picture of him you're like this guy's just like kind of an old creep yeah you're right in the letter I was back in 1314 when I was writing to him too and he wrote back or somebody did yeah and nothing ever nothing suspect at all

right I don't know I wonder if I saw how those letters I have to look and see they might be in a box somewhere should find them them. I shouldn't. Wait, you know, what type of the progress bar thing? There's a thing that I kind of got away from reading just because it was a really great thing where whenever I used to read some really long books, I think one like the Stan by Stephen King and it by Stephen King, I mean, these are like 1300 page novels,

you know, and you get to the end of it. This is the whole reason I got this reading thing. When Todd was, I was mentioning, we get the end of a progress bar, you get the end of a book, you know, and you get to the end of it. This is the whole reason I was reading thing When Todd was I was mentioning we get the end of a progress bar You hit the end of a book you know that getting the end of a book. I never liked the feeling of finishing a book It was like this weird feeling of like like I don't know how to describe it I almost like a feeling of loss in a way like we read the book so long. It's almost like this melon collie Feeling of like it's like it's like instant nostalgia almost yeah intense feeling of it when you when I would finish a long book and

it's like it's just feeling that I only associate with reading is that I'm going to go back and reread a book yeah what yeah what you can't recapture that feeling either too it's a very I don't know it's really a tense memory that I have I read the second remember. Some books you can recapture the feeling if you really love them. Yeah. Or they did change. You wait for the movie adaptation. No, but like if you've ever, like there's like the little prince I love, but every time I read it, like I see something else, because I read it like years apart and then I'll

read it and I'll be like, oh, I see something else from the book will be highlighted to me. Sure. And that's an easy one because it's so short you can read it in an hour. Like where the wild things are, too. I think it depends on the ending. Did you ever kind of book book? When I saw the movie, I was like, that's not based on the book that I read.

Yeah. And then when I read, I go, I was totally different than I want to remember it being. And yeah, so open-ended, too. Yeah. I think it depends on the ending. I remember that the Godfather was really, really good book. Way different from the movie.

And the ending was just like really, really really really touching and was like one of those things You're just like oh poetic and I mean I think if you end on like a really cool note It's easier to just put the book away and be okay with it. It does depend on the way it ends, but you can miss characters Like if you know way that you don't miss with movies or TV. Yeah, cuz you you are inside their brains more Yeah, I TV yeah because you you are inside their brains more I Guess what TV your movies. It's easier to recapturing. You know what you want to dedicate two hours to I didn't have that feeling lost ended It was just like is this inappropriate and they're you're not yes check They covered this okay, you know, but I didn't have that feeling of like have you ever cried like in a book like what something happened

Pardon me. No, where do we go? Where did that come from have ever cried in a book? I guess if I would no wait wait where did that come from have I cried in a book I guess if I would have cried I wouldn't have been old Yeller oh I cried about some of the fucking books I had her like the Iliad and the other one I read those two those are fucking brutal brutal those of the I read the Iliad the Odyssey and the other one what's called the Ainiid or whatever the third one is Shopee City is good for like one section. They have the two cool monsters and the whole thing and they're right after one another It's like once everything before then everything after that is just boring

You know talking about the yes And then the big the what the big whirlpool guy The Kraken there it is The big whirlpool guy. The Kraken. Is that what it is? The, uh, um, thing from Tatooine in the water. No, the, uh, Starlac pit. That I know.

What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what is the class I know? It's, uh, Caribdus? Or, is that what it was called? I don't remember. Skillow or Caribdus, I think, I forget which one it was. Oh, I think it's the first one you said. Skillow? I feel like it.

Yeah, I think so. I think it was a sea monkey I think it was so we haven't talked about the bin Laden thing. Do we want to talk about that? It seems weird that we would go through a whole podcast and not talk about something that's going on right now That's something happened epic history Well, we talked about the books like reading the the Iliad in the Odyssey If you don't know bin Laden, oh, some of the London was shot by Navy SEALs They had an operation where they went in and picked them out of a compound in Pakistan He was in the suburbs

Yeah, in a million dollar mansion a serious million dollar mansion I've ever seen dude all of a sudden is by real estate in Pakistan That's a million dollar house dude. It didn't have internet or telephone Holy cow. I mean, that's like those are like L. I said everyone from LA Like trans landing over to Pakistan? And I don't want to make too light of this because I mean, you know, it's the book end of a very tragic event and it ended with, you know,

storming in and shooting somebody in the head. But at the same time, it's like, the craziness of it is, what if that thing had gone wrong? That could have killed Obama's presidency. I mean, he's flying two black hawks into Pakistan. Where they got shot down, all those guys died. And one of the helicopters was damaged. They had to blow it up. Yeah, it could have been like Jimmy Carter trying to rescue the hostages all over again.

Or Bay of Hicks. It could have easily been a Bay of Hicks. And it's like where Cuba was an enemy at the very least. I mean Pakistan is not an enemy. And we're in there and we're shouldn't. And wasn't the weird thing about this mansion is that it's right in the middle of essentially the the Pakistani West Point town. It's close to it. Yeah, it's it's it's in the town. And it's like half a mile away from the facility. Right. They're military Academy. Yeah. Which is crazy because I mean it's okay to mean like everyone is saying They're now like giving me evil eye to Pakistan now being skeptical because they're saying how could he be here in this compound

With all the Pakistan military being trained all around in a military count and nobody noticed this and nobody found him It's it's included. They were almost hiding maybe even guarding him what I find weird about it is It seemed clear they were almost hiding maybe even guarding him. What I find weird about it is We flew two black hawk helicopters into a nuclear power I mean Pakistan is a nuclear power. I don't know if they're on the UN Security Council I don't think they are. I don't think so. But they're a nuclear power. Yes, and there aren't many countries that are We just flew in there with two black hawks and two chinooks, I think as well. Pretty deep. I mean, it's pretty deep into the border It's like 90 miles from the capital I think yeah, we fly in land Shoot up the place Stay there for 40 minutes gathering intel

Blow up our own helicopter which was damaged land other helicopters to replace the new helicopter the helicopter that was exploded or demolished Then fly away 40 minutes and they were in their military town the new helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic- the helic The helicopter just landed. There's a lot of shooting. There was a guy who was tweeting all that stuff. And I don't think he said the power was out or not, but I mean, he was doing live up. He's like, it sounded like a helicopter crashed. Now it's done like it exploded. Yeah, that was the crazy part. That there's a dude who speaks English or types English really well is on Twitter

and is like half a mile away, or a mile or two away from where all this is happening. It's easy to assume because we're at war, and these are Navy SEALs that they're in a war, you know, theater. They're in a theater of war, right, where they're landing. Pakistan's on a war. There should be no reason why

public doctors would be landing and shooting in the middle of a neighborhood. And there was no cops. I mean, they're in nuclear power. Is that like the difference between the top echelon of civilized worlds and other places in civilized countries? We don't know what what kind of notice was given to Pakistan. Even if it was our child not 30 minutes before or something. I mean they didn't they didn't talk to

the government about we think a lot in his here. Maybe they did maybe they did what you did they called local police department. They're like hey we wouldn't be filming a movie up at the house on the hill. We'd be fine some prop guns and plans and helicopters around so here anything just disregard it i mean there's a forty minutes right yeah i mean is there no police in that country it's great don't they have radar i know but they're you could weapons but it's been speculated that the helicopters that they used were retrofitted with fake iff systems uh... to make the, you think that it was their own aircraft. But who knows who knows what the truth is.

It does like some most from Battlestar Galactica. Doesn't it? Didn't they do that with one of the silo ships? I think so, yeah. Then they waggle the wings as they were coming in. And they also did that in Independence Day when they uploaded the virus to the mothership. Yeah, yeah, that's it, you know, using it against them. But then they should know what it crashed. They just said, oh, that's a US black Hawk.

They've it crashed. They've it crashed. Did you want to know it wasn't the house? Like not an intelligence-wise, just like what? What, what, what, what, I mean like, like, how it's like a nose or like? There's this video footage of it. Is it really?

Yeah. Yeah. It is not a nice layer. It looks like a frat house almost. Well, they were speculating he was living in a cave. So it's better than a cave. Yeah. So we got that going for him.

Hell of a lot better. You think it's also propaganda that they call it a million dollar house? In a way. I don't know. Because it makes it seem like part of the propaganda effort or it gets intelligence effort they made initially when they invaded Iraq was we dropped photos of Osama in a western suit, like Photoshopped,

like he was wearing western clothes, and that he abandoned now he was in the West. And that was a way to demoralize, you know. Interesting. Yeah. Speaking of Photoshop pictures, a lot of newspapers in other countries ran a Photoshoposhopped image of a someone been on shot saying that that was the photo of him dead Yeah, but it wasn't it was just a photoshop it was like a two-face effect like two face from the last Batman movie They just kind of applied like a texture on his face that looked like burned. Yeah, yeah, and a whole spot. Yeah They need a what you can't you can't put that Two space back into I mean once that's out there people see it and they think that's the real photo

They're talking about releasing the photo here, you know, they actually one of the actual photos And I don't think there's any need to I would imagine that would look fucked up Like if you've ever if you're when hunting deer hunting before when a bullet exits something it's an explosion Like it's it's not like a nice little red, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, don't think they should release it either, but it's one of those things where a lot of people have opinions and it's like, what's the right thing to do here, you know? How do you think they buried him and see?

Like, I mean, how do you think they got him off the ship? I mean, did they just like throw the body over? Was it like on a board that they like? I mean, the board is actually the board. I think there's procedure for it, and I think that's how they do it. So I wonder if he gets like caught on the edge of the ship and like, oh, somebody go cut him off.

Awful. Right. So, you said Barry, let's see. Yeah. I didn't know that. According to Islamic law, you have to bury a body within 24 hours. And so, and there's now clerics. Radical clerics were saying that it was done to humiliate him the way they buried him in C.

But, you know, the US government is saying that this is something that's allowable. From what I've read, the only time like a burial at sea is allowable like that is if, I forget, there were two scenarios, but one of the scenarios was if there's fear that the grave where the person's buried will be disturbed or dug up. And they said that they fell. Or they died that they fell. Or they died on a ship. Right, right. Yeah, I didn't know about that one.

I thought it was if for some reason you could not vary them where they had died. But I think the reason the government did is they didn't want, you know, radical extremists going to the gravesite and worshipping it. Like it being a place you visit. Right. Like Mecca. Or to return his body and then have it be like lie and state, but that wouldn't be allowed either, right? So. It seems like the, based on that bit of information,

it seems like the best compromise. I couldn't believe that he was still alive. Yeah. I hadn't thought about him in years. Yeah. I thought I'd be sure to do it. They did said years ago that he had kidney problems and needed dialysis and stuff like this.

He can't be alive. And he was in a cave and all that other stuff. That's another one of the things like trying to explain to a kid like with the cop thing, you know, like trying to explain why everyone's cheering because somebody's dead, to a kid, you know. A lot of people that we know who don't live in the US were asking me about that.

Like are people in the streets cheering in Austin? I said, not at all, you know? That's kind of annoyed by crowds. It's a one crowd in Times Square and one crowd outside not at all. You know, that's kind of annoyed by crowds. That's two-by-dots. It's a one-crowd in Times Square and one crowd outside the White House. It's literally probably 400 people at the moment. And it's the two places that were attacked. I mean, Washington DC was attacked.

New York was attacked. I mean, I think there's a certain level of like understanding that she go with that. I mean, listen, I don't begrudge anybody for the way they react to it. It's bizarre to say the least. I mean, it's, listen, I don't, I don't, I don't begrudge anybody for the way they react to it. It's, it's, it's, it's bizarre to say the least. I mean, it's like this is one person and it's not even like, I mean, the, the best you compare to be Hitler, but Hitler essentially was a leader. We, we killed him in symbolic of us getting to Berlin, you know, we get to Hitler and the war's over. You know, I mean, even kill this guy. It's like, this is an over.

This is just a step in the process. It like this is literally just you know justice for one guy There have been other more important people captured and or killed over the years, but you don't celebrate that Yeah, it's symbolic I guess yeah There was a there was a guy who released a a statement He's father one of the guys and it's like Just rip you to shreds reading you know how he, how he wasn't going to celebrate, didn't bring his son back, doesn't change any of that stuff. And it's just like, talks all about his son,

how the, he hears people talking about closure. And he appreciates that because it's other people hoping that the passage of time will lessen his pain. He said, I could tell you that the passage of time is not less than the loss of my son in any way. It's horrible, horrible. That's rough. Terri, you up. Can I read something real quick from Obama's statement? Do? Of all the things, this is on less than the loss of my son in any way. It's horrible, horrible. That's rough. Terri, can I read something real quick from Obama's statement?

Of all the things this is the most disturbing. And I have a weird thing too, where we were talking about the, you know, Ili and the Odyssey and those old epics. I think I learned from that. I always thought that one of the basic tenets of warfare was that you return bodies, like that you let people collect their dead. And I thought that was a rule of warfare, which was supposed to stupid to say,

but I thought it was, but apparently it's not, that you don't have to return bodies. Where would you return it to? Like, I guess it's family, okay? Or you just leave it, you don't take the dead. You know what I mean? You don't typically in warfare shoot people and then cart the bodies away. But if there was a question about proof or whatever, maybe but then I mean you have cameras or whatever. But even that like you said Photoshop like I don't

You need more physical proof now because everything is so easily faked. It's one of those things to you with a body in particular especially with a religious figure. A dead body could be a big deal, especially the body goes away. And then what happened? Oh, you know, he's, you know, you never know what can happen. So obviously there's tactical reasons for it. We'll just put this way.

I'm glad I'm not the guy who has to make those decisions, you know, about what to do with somebody's dead body, you know. But this was an actual thing that the whole thing, this disturbed me in the process. And this was Obama what he said about it. He said, this is the end of his statement. He said, the cause of securing our country is not complete. But tonight, we are once again reminded that America could do whatever we set our mind

to. That is the story of our history, whether it's the pursuit of prosperity for our people or the struggle for equality for all our citizens citizens our commitment to stand up for our values abroad And our sacrifices to make the world a safer place Talking about that Americans can do whatever we sit our mind to that seems like a really weird context for this thing to me Like that's what I would normally associate with landing a man in the moon or even even as far as like splitting the atom in the Manhattan Project at least that is a Even as far as like splitting the atom in the Manhattan project at least that is a Scientific endeavor, you know that is people working together for something that can bring about a greater good It just looks like a weird thing to put in context of guys kicking in a door and shooting somebody in the head

I can see that like you want to associate with more Positive for the greater good things and you know that this was a bad thing But it's almost got like negative connotations to it. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, I guess he's just going from where the angle that no one really thought we could do this I mean everybody thought we'd be searching yeah like hundreds of miles of caves, you know, it's probably Invericid landmark, you know, it's you know, but I just what you're saying. It's just that's a happy And that's happy imagery that you want to think about when you hear rhetoric like that, you know, like the positive thing we can do. It was, but it was a power speech, you know.

Yeah. And that was, it was a calculated power speech and that's what he was doing. So, yeah. It was sending a message. Listen, he said he was going to, he said he was going to go find the guy and he said he'd go into Pakistan if he had to. He said that during the campaign. Yeah, he did it.

It, it, it, it, it, it only cost us a lot of money and a lot of years and a lot of lives They did do if you read about these guys that went into the one in there. Yeah, I read yeah average age of the strieteen was 38 years old really these guys are all average two decades of military experience Yeah, they have to spend years in the seals before they're even They can even be thought of for being selected for that team. I can read some of them. It was called Team 6. It was named at 6 because at the time they had 3, we was the third seal team they created.

It was during the Cold War. They wanted the Soviets to think they had a ton of them. So I said a name on them, seal team 3 and seal team 6. I read a story about an old mission they did in Grenada where I guess the mission kind of went sideways. They ran out of ammo, they were outgunned, they were going to lose this position, they were supposed to hold, and they were on the beach, they were on the shore. So they were supposed to defend this radio tower, they couldn't do it. They blew up the radio tower, as they were out of ammo, the solution was we're going to swim out into the ocean for six hours. So they just left, and they

just swam out into the ocean, swam in the ocean for six hours, eventually the plane spotted them and it's in a boat to pick them up. Wow. Like it's like, okay, let's leave. Start swimming. I can't imagine doing that man. I couldn't swim for 30 minutes. Just swim into the ocean. I mean, think about that. You're swimming into open sea and then behind you have enemy forces. That's two choices. Wow, surprise you're giving yourself 30 minutes, Gus. Yeah, that's being super generous. That's in a swimming pool. Yeah.

With one of those little floaties, like, okay. Is it true that one of them was a UT journalism grad? Where did that come from? Yeah, he was the leader of the team. That was the Austin American Statesman reported that. I just like the idea of this team of elite forces swimming out of the ocean. And there's just like one private sorola who's like,

ah, see we, see we touch my leg. I'm gonna clap, I just ate 30 minutes ago. I can't go in there. I just ate an MRE. I'm gonna get cramps. Man, they're some crazy stuff. But they are, I mean those guys, they went in there. They had no casualties on the American side.

They stormed in and I, you know, I would imagine they were prepared in some way for somebody at some point to be coming for Osama bin Laden. And then they hear these helicopters coming. They crash one of them outside at the land the other one next to it for I guess Operation safety purposes. Then they had to go through three walls of the compound and they get in there take them out No, no American casualties. That seems insane to me. It sounds like an action movie like unbelievable action movie Just let's just use those guys for everything. Yeah, I mean team six. That's gonna be a movie I mean team six that's gonna be a movie. I mean like that name alone.

Well there you have that. There you have that Charlie Sheen movie in the 80s Navy Seals. Do you see that? Team six though. Yeah, team six. I mean it's hard to fathom what one of those guys lives is like like his average daily life. You know they train constantly and it's just like do they go home and it's just like does do they go home and it's just like, does he like just go into a box? They shut the box, you know what I mean? He seems like, if they're kids, misbehaving or acting up, he's like, they put their kid in a sleeper hole

and like knock him out. No, I don't think he could just lay down, lay down. I don't think he would have kids. I don't think he should have anything at all. I can't imagine they would. What was the movie that won the Oscar? A couple of years, you're a hurt locker. Yeah.

It was like one of the major parts when, you know, one of the bomb guys goes back home, you know And he's living in the real world and that's the thing that feels weird and where he doesn't get along with you know It's oh that's why he keeps going back out. Yeah, it's just unnatural I would think that if you had that profession now you wouldn't bother having a family because you want to be prepared to let go of your life at any point Right you never know. I mean, but to know typically these people start later You know they've been in the military a long time, so maybe they had a family already and then this came along.

Yeah. So who knows? Just like this anonymous art type, you know, these guys that are just, I just imagine they sit and they go home, they sit on the edge of the bed and they stare at the wall. And then the phone rings and they're like, okay, I'm coming. Yeah, they're waiting for the phone. Yeah, it's like they're like two weeks. I just can't imagine.

Personality-wise, they try to get rid of the really boisterous guys, you know like the ones who feel like hot shots. Yeah the cowboys Or if you want to do things on their own. Yeah, the mavericks. Yeah We feel the not to derail our interesting conversation, but we need to wrap up here pretty soon Sure, well in closing and all that I hope that I hope that uh You know we talk about the bookend of been lot of me kill hope that is a bookend for some people I hope that that, you know, even though the father of that guy said, you know, closure, hope it brings some peace to a lot of people, you know,

for everything that happened because I remember, you know, it's good to know that that guy in particular will not have the ability to create the amount of fear and horror that he created, because I remember that very vividly. And at the very least we can say he won't be creating that again. That's very true. Yeah. All right on that somber note. Have a good day. Thank you for listening. Thank you.

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