Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #12

Episode Date: July 2, 2009

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It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie comes the new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-oxane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnett, and Thomas Hayden Church.

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not what they get to. Not everyone's lead singer. Unfortunately, we do not know the author of this week's theme song, but the name of the theme is Moshing in a minivan. Cool. Clevver title. Hello and welcome to the drunk tank, the Rri Teed Podcast. I am Jeff Rehazzy, and I am Alicia Pratt. God, you're never gonna stop with that, are you? Who is Alicia Pratt? I don't know who that is. How to look it up. Do you know?

No, I just know the name Alicia Pratt. Great. So, Bernie, this week we are without the Whitty Insight of everyone's favorite minority Gusarola. He is Attatown and Miami, Not Miami. I'm sorry overland though. Florida's all the same doing some sort of a commercial shoot for us I think and so it's just me and you this week buddy Did you figure out who leash Pratt was? Yeah, it might be like a personal friend from back in the day But I'm hurt. You know, it's important

I mean a lot of women have trouble making a place for themselves online I just want to try to help out that process Yeah, it's really hard for a woman to stand out on the internet, I think You know you watched you watched out for words today, didn't you? I for the first time ever yeah, well, yeah I did watch it like 18 times. Matt just Amy said this is bad timing for the podcast. We have a conference call in 25 minutes We have a conference call who's a who knows? Have you ever been on a conference call ever where anything happened? No, never. I mean every conference call I've ever been on is like I think it works like this. You call in Takes 10 minutes to call in even though you can normally just call anybody in the phone

Instantaneously or message them or email them. Conference calls take about 10 minutes to set up. Yes, somebody's always late Yes, so then you do like we should wait for this person. They're late. Okay, let's try doing just random banter. Oh, that's the worst. What are you guys from? Oh, how's the weather in Austin? Yeah. I heard about Stevie Rae Vaughn. Random bullshit like that. And then the person who's late will eventually show up after you've already started. And then you have to go back and kind of rehash that person. By now, you're about half an hour into the conference call. It's super awkward. And then something comes up on the conference call, somebody brings up a point, usually some jackass who wasn't even invited.

That derails the conference call. You spend a lot of time talking about something that's irrelevant and then you all decide to leave the conference call to investigate this issue that came up and nothing gets done on the conference. Right right and then you work it all out an email That's also every meeting ever in person No matter what that's how meetings work. Yeah pretty much. I'm still trying to find who Alicia Pratt is So what's going on you're working on I saw you working on ghost busters again I'm almost done my goal today is to finish Capturing for all my ghost busters videos and then I can just release some of the next few days

Good game, you know, not a not gonna win any awards I don't think but a fun game great voice acting the pretty well written. Apparently a lot better written than year one Year one what the movie year one, which was a Harold Raymus movie. He'll miss what the oh, I see I'm sorry. I'm making a connection here. Harold Raymus wrote wrote the Ghostbusters video game and he wrote and directed to year one the Jack Black Michael Sarah movie. You know it's really weird because you said year one I immediately thought of a Batman thing. Isn't there a Batman year one thing? Yeah, that's that's what I think of too Huh typically it's where they can name movies like that the stuff that's almost

Oddly confusing you know, it's interesting. I was looking through my Netflix Q like or like Netflix streaming the other night looking for new movies to add to it, and there's a movie called Slackers. And not Slacker, not Slacker, Slackers. I didn't watch the yet, but it doesn't look very good, but I wouldn't imagine not. Really confusing for me, because I was looking at the cover, going,

none of these guys look like Rory Cochran, you know, or whatever, I couldn't figure it out. Yeah, likewise, when I was in my Netflix catalog the other day, I found Transmorphers. And it was a big robot standing over a bunch of vehicles and bashing the vehicles. I always wonder, at what point in your career do you decide, I'm totally comfortable doing the knockoff.

And not even like a parody, but I'm really just doing, there's something popular in the world. I'm just gonna do another version of it that I know is shit here But I'm just gonna try to confuse people into watching my thing Absolutely. Yeah, I don't I do you wonder if like is there a point in that director's career where he's like Like the writer, you know or you know even the actors I mean the Cassie field that bring him in say I'm going to read for trans morpors this weekend

To they kind of convince themselves in their head that this is people like Transformers and I'm just doing something else in the Robot transformation genre. That's a big thing now. I don't know. It's pretty lame. It's pretty I mean we see all those movies now like the scary movie Which then turned into the high school movie which turned into the epic movie and that seems to be like a theme for those guys. That seems like it's on a different level to me. Yeah. Then these things that are just like straight to video hits that are just trying to latch on like a sucker fish. More than that, like I wonder, I think about this a lot with Tobe Hooper specifically. Whoa.

Uh, who I loved as a kid because he did text change on massacre and he didn't pull to guys then he did invaders from Mars, which I thought was a great movie until I saw it as an adult and he did Alicia Pratt I mean he dated Alicia Pratt he uh, I Wonder like I looked him up not too long ago on IMDB and he was doing he's doing straight to video horror movies now I wonder how what it's like to go from a movie making movies like poltergeist, which are huge, huge films produced by Steven Spielberg, to doing like direct a video, like I think he did a piranha sequel, like piranha-three or something. Do you wanna know that the girl that I went to high school with

was the lead in the original piranha? Oh really? She was Susie Grogon. Susie Grogon, they filmed that in, right down there in San Marcos. Yeah, actually I think. Down in Aquarius Springs. Yeah.

Which was about freshwater piranha. How scary is that? That's pretty fucking scary. I guess so. I was just living in the lake this weekend. And you know, the lake here in Austin is about 80 feet deep to 120 feet deep. Yeah. But pretty much all over the place.

Like, there's no like gradual, it's all cliff side. And there's one part of it that's sure, but then it's pretty much a straight drop. And that's kind of a creepy feeling. I think you're over 80 feet of water 80 feet of freshwater piranha yeah potentially even the ocean's not like that really you've been in the ocean much at all. Oh, a ton dude I've lived on the ocean most of my life. Okay so you can go out like you know half a mile and you're still over the shelf and you're like maybe 50 feet deep and then it drops off to seven miles deep. Yeah, you know the idea of the the ocean is like you go out, you know, a few hundred feet and you're

over like 200 feet of water. It's not the case. Suddenly you're above the Cloverfield monster. Yeah. No shit. There was some creepy ass thing on it. Did I get real your story? Do you want to?

I was going to go somewhere, but I don't remember now. I was trying to, in my head, try to get back to it when I can't figure it out. So, well, did you see the YouTube video of the sewer pipe where they found these creepy like alien looking things? No. Okay, here. I'm going to talk about something else. The next time we get off on a different tangent, I'm going to load that up and we'll put it in the linked up so people can like load it up as well and listen to GF React to how

horrible it is. That's good. If it isn't put a sewer pipe down or they put a camera down a sewer pipe and just discovered something a bit odd down there. A bit odd. I think that's really the only way you can put it. There was just this freakish like blob-ish kind of thing. And you never know these days when you see stuff like this.

If it's a viral marketing piece or if it's legitimate, weird thing, I don't know. I have a skepticism now for just anything new in the world that it's got to be a product of capitalism in some way. You know, that's got to be a product of capitalism in some way. You know that's going to be some kind of marketing piece. Speaking of capitalism, did you see the success of Transformers over the five-day weekend? I did. I did. It made $201,000 in the first five days. It kind of depends on how you gauge success because monetarily it did very well, but mainly did it get brutalized in the reviews. Yeah, but who cares? It did well.

That doesn't matter. Well, there was one of the producers, I think, for Transformers, was Don Murphy, but Don Murphy, whether or not he produced Transformers, was sure on a tear, being an asshole about some of the reviews, particularly some of the online reviews. And he was talking about pulling ads from websites. And we all knew this movie was gonna make millions and millions and millions of dollars. Why is this guy going out of his way, basically saying we're only gonna put our ads on things that give us good reviews? You know, just weather it. You know, whether some guy on the internet

saying that your movie sucks when you're making $200 million in five days. Yeah, it's like, it's not like, it's not like he couldn't have thought that Transformers 2 was like citizen cane. You know, he couldn't have expected it to be this extremely, you know, it's a fucking movie about robots fighting.

You know, it makes you one or two. When I think of big time American directors, Michael Bayes on my list. Absolutely. I think probably the best like in the action genre, the you know, the big blockbuster genre. James Cameron is actually, even though he hasn't made a big blockbuster movie in a long time now, he's making those 3D fish movies. He's about to though. Avatar is going to be huge. Right. He'll come back with

Avatar, which supposedly is going to be just enormous and change the way he look at movies. Have you heard that yet? You always hear that, don't you? Well, this one is, people come out of the reviews and they say, I know I've been to movies before but I feel like I just saw movies for the first time. Come on. Okay, now look, I'm gonna hand you this laptop. Okay, and I just want to be playing this video. And this is in a sewer pipe. And this is what in a sewer pipe where Cameron Village, North Carolina, it's in America. It's in America. Okay. I don't want to see this. It's gonna suck. Okay. I have very little battery life. Just play that and see if you can figure out what it is and does anybody know what this is? No, nobody knows what it is people have theories, but you can talk about this describe what you're seeing um

I'm oh my god. Hey, Matt you want to sit down? I'm watching Matt like a watch a watch a video. I'm seeing what it looks like Ectoplasm I did uh, it's like somebody it's like a human. Oh It's like the inside of something. Yep. It's like some kind of like bulbous like mass inside a sewer pipe that seems to be alive Right, it's yeah, it's totally alive. It's like a blob. Is it gonna do anything? Is it just it doesn't attack does it? Beautiful attacks. It just it's there and looks creepy. Hey man. Do you want to jump on that mic? Oh? Fuck how do you that's got to be a colonoscopy right? You think so? I'm not star right colonoscopy. Oh gross dude. Can you how?

So Matt we have a conference call coming up here. We do and it's gonna cut this There's more of a mess short, so we'll have to stop and everybody can wait with us Love the conference call. I don't come back to the box. I can listen into the conference call It looks like a dick. I'm so have you ever been on the conference call, Matt where anything has ever happened ever. I'm gonna see no. That's really not what conference calls are about. Conference calls are about delaying the inevitable, which is you have to work at some point, but nobody wants to do that. And everybody wants to be delegated and assigned all their responsibilities. So they have a conference call to talk about who's gonna be assigned stuff and who's to be delegated and assigned all their responsibilities. So they have a conference call to talk about who's going to be assigned stuff and who's

going to be delegated to without actually doing the delegating or assigning because that wouldn't happen in a big, you know, virtual room full of people. Is this is this viral marketing for for like a Tom Sabini movie or something? No clue. Are you still watching the colonoscopy? God damn it dude. It's Jeff is going to be a doctor by the time it's It's reacting to the light.

Where's the car? A proctologist Jeff. How big is this pipe? Is it a tiny pipe or is it a big like walk-through pipe? They don't see a pipe, would you be a walk-through? Oh fuck that dude. So here's how a perfect conference call would work for me. Okay.

Everyone gets on the conference call. Everyone dials in somehow magically and gets in when the conference call is supposed to begin. They have services for that. What? The dialing in? The dialing in part. Yeah, but still nobody does it right. How long does it take on average to get a conference call going?

Even though you're scheduled. Oh, at least 10 minutes, right? That's exactly what Bernie said. Oh, dude, I wish I hadn't seen that. I'm not a conference call to me. Everyone gets on the conference call. And all anyone does is says their name and says their email address and then everybody hangs out. It'll be good.

Or they could just go on chat, you know, and just do it, you know, have a name chat real quick and be done with it. I find though that now on chat, I used to like chat better because people would have to be really thinking about what they were gonna say and they would be succinct instead of like on a phone call when they start yapping about the weather

and just like how are you and, you know, being cordial, I kind of stuff that I hate. But now on chat people just do that anyway. And I thought they do but you know what's good about chat is that they have that character limit and at first I hated that but then I thought I'm just talking too much. You know it's the it's the Twitterizing of the world you know everybody's got to get in with an 148 characters that it is 144. 140. 140. Gosh it's less than I thought I got a shut up right now. You know everybody's got to get in with an 148 characters that it is 144

140 140 guys is less than I thought I got a shut up right now I'm not gonna make this into a Twitter post The other thing too about about conference calls that I can't stand is This new systems they have where you announce yourself when you call in I like that because it's like when you go to order A burger at floodrackers and you can say anything, you know It's like I'm this is Elvis. know is that they call it Elvis and you're like oh Elvis is here getting a FedRuckers hamburger see how he's they always tell you say your name followed by the pound sign so I when I over I enter a conference call it says this now entering the conference call Bernie Burns pound sign you know I did that on our first ever conference call in Microsoft

did you really nobody ever gets the joke? No, they never they don't they don't or maybe maybe we're not the only two people to make that You're they silently think you're an idiot Jeff is not the best person Public speaking and I think that actually qualifies for as public speaking because a lot though I love the what do you hear later? What do you try to say? I'm thinking you've had a few slip-ups Oh, when addressing people on a microphone that may or may not have been on, when you thought it was on? What would you say was his worst one?

My George Bush doesn't like Black people, Jack. Well, we got our machine, I'm a word. But it wasn't my fault. The Mike Mire after the whole Kanye West, Katrina, Mike Myers, Katrina, Kanye West, and George Bush doesn't like Black people in the middle of that. Was it a Katrina like benefit show, right? It was. It was with Telephone, and Kanye West was George Bush doesn't like black people in the middle of that. Was it it was a Katrina like benefit show, right? It was it was with Telefon and Kanye West was presenting with Mike Myers and for whatever reason Kanye West decided to derail their presentation and

Mike Myers saying the people of New Orleans have been devastated by this tragic national natural disaster and then Kanye West just barges in and says George Bush does not care about black people and my my my my is turned white for a Canadian Yeah, it was like he became translucent Like I think in the sewer and it was horrible and so Jeff when we won an award Yeah, I went up and I I think Gus had something and that's something and maybe Joel or someone else did and then it was my turn to get up So I just said the joke, but the fucking might cut out so all people heard were Black people

It cut on in the middle of Jeff talking crazy guy with a bunch of tattoos got up in front of everybody just to yell black people This is a nice place and everybody's like Kevin doing it was some fancy bar in New York Yeah, and then I was a long walk through that crowd to get to the bar where the bartender was black. And I had to go up an order of Botquatonic. I don't even fucking know. You really need to do that Botquatonic after that, too. I don't get embarrassed, so it was not a problem.

You don't get embarrassed, now it becomes a problem for us. Life's too short. Yeah, now for other people, other evil sides are just right amount of time. You're there fucking it up Right Matt's attacking his microphone. Okay, what else is coming out for more movies very soon? Harry Potter will have half blood prints will be out July 15th. You guys tickets already where are you guys going to see it? Somewhere in America. I don't know wherever my wife picked. We're not going I don't think we're going to the album

I'm gonna go see it I'm actually because the I max is not showing the Harry Potter I max 3d version until two weeks after yeah I think it's like it's ridiculous along your way Harry Potter's in 3d. It's gonna be 3d I max and they're not showing it They're not it's not launching on I max with the traditional theater because of transformers rise of the following You can't go though. You're a believer. I'm not a big Harry Potter fan. No, logo's allowed. It never, Jeff and Matt are, you couldn't ask for a more perfect Harry Potter podcast group because these two. You're five high five.

They, where did you with you guys? Do you read the fucking book and you'll see it's the best thing ever. I've seen, man, that's like, that's like, you know, construction. Yeah. He's pulling out power strips knocking over microphones. He's getting ready for the conference call. This is all the preparation to have a conference call where it's like, do we get construction? Yeah. He's pulling out power strips knocking over microphones. He's getting ready for the conference call. All the preparation, I have a conference call where it's like,

hi, this is us, this is you, and we all want to work together. Great. Now we'll go away. No, they don't want to work with us. I'll send you an email somewhere. Conference call. This is what you do when you're working

on real companies. You like, this must be like an island in the middle of the day where they want to get out of works. They go to meetings. See, at least this is better. better man when I worked at Warner Brothers We actually had on the board Like schedules for this one board room for what for everybody's conference calls during the day because there was so many conference calls That you had to sign up for like I need the board room at this time today because we're gonna have a conference call

What every single day what movie? What was that you're working on scuba dude? Scooby-Doo required that many fucking conference calls because we were working with Like through four other visual effects houses and every day there was some department that needed some kind of asset or one Whatever and it couldn't just be you know like we talked about like send the file to me great. Thanks It was that it'd be like let's talk about how you send this file to me Wow, and we just send it you know F digitally, like, we're normal people with computers. I've done this a hundred times before on this project. Nope. We got to talk about it. It's crazy. Like, even in the digital age where you wouldn't think that anything would need to be in person or physical. How many times are we FedExing hard drives with files

on them or tapes? Like, we have to convert stuff from digital format down to like digital beta Yeah, and send that out. It's crazy. It's kind of crazy. Can I ask you a question? No because I've always acted like I've known But I don't know what the hell is Digibata? It's a tape. It's a digital tape I think the only difference between beta and Digibata and I'm not even sure about this is that you can separate the Components streams. What does that mean? You know when you have the command of the three. I'm not asking for about this is that you can separate the component streams. What does that mean? You know when you have the command of the three I'm not asking for me to master for the audience. Oh The signals that's red, green, and blue you know that are separated separate colors. Yeah, you have your and yellow Xbox if you have that with a with a three and you plug him in right

That I think it keeps those like preserves those on the tape separately as opposed to a regular beta It would just be like all the information is mushed together in a composite form Right, and then the machine tries to interpret sending it back out in those component signals Why do we use RGB for TV and not CMYK? It's pigment versus light Yeah, yeah, this is the three color three primary colors of light are red green and blue Three primary colors of pigment are blue red and yellow Well, cyan, the same agenda yellow. Yeah, cyan magenta and yellow and black of course interesting. It have your own black. K is black Why is K black? I never knew that no? No, no, no, what do you racist? Take me whatever?

K people maybe case was my choice. That was my Jeff impersonation. Thank you. The other cool thing about About those digital beta tapes is a 30 second tape is like $500. Yeah, that's the difference. Yeah, buying a video tape the life 60 minutes Somehow cost $500, but all those you know all those tapes are like 30 years old at this point. They're all that's antiquated stuff What is that huge hum that just started? My computer just in? That's your computer doing that? I don't know. It's coming from that side of the room. There's nothing else over there. The computer's needy. We need to pay attention to it. Yeah, we got to figure it out. Might be the UPS actually. I just got a new UPS.

If that UPS is doing that, you got to replace that thing. Okay. It does it all the time. Alright, and now we're to complete that with the stuff. Before it was great, now it sucks. I know. I was a quick community thing. If you're watching the thing if you're watching the If you're on the website and you notice the sponsor ads or trying to tweak the sponsor ads settings so that people see more Sponsor ads and see them more evenly because the system we were using before had a thing where

Sponsor ads were like there was a specific quantity and they would go out and like so some people would see a ton of them and some people wouldn't see any at all So we're trying to equalize that so if you have any feedback on that if you're seeing a good bound of those Let us know or if you're not singing any at all let us know. Did you guys see that a friendster has adopted the User ads. Yes, I did. Yeah, you have to pay for theirs though. Right. That's right like like ad and give us Yeah, you have to pay for theirs though right that's right like like add and give us Frinstru bucks or whatever Strip bucks, I just imagine that they have like you know, I Think friends are working right out of the barters just don't need to trust. They'll take anything If you have like an old couch will take that whatever we're not we're not on Facebook

We get it you can eat that sandwich. How big is friendship? You still have a ton of people on there, right? They have a ton of accounts that people made at one point, I think. I think that's what MySpace is reaching at level two of. Yeah, I guess they are. But you know, it seems like a lot of like Frinster you could see was going, you're like, not US anymore. Like all the accounts, as it was waning and MySpace was shooting up,

like all their accounts seemed to be from Asia and just like, you go to Japan now, it's Frin seemed to be from Asia and just like you go to Japan now. It's frinster the cool one and you know, there's a map where they show the primary social media site in that country There's a map that somebody made. Oh really based on the majority of users and I think in Europe Bebo is one that's very very big. Yeah, we were we were an answer Dan Bebo BBO dot com. We uh when we were an answer dam we were talking to some of the the kids there about Facebook and they didn't they I don't think most of them had heard of Facebook. They all use Bibo I'm trying to plug in my laptop. That's last podcast

You don't have to bring your entire desk with you every time you do the podcast That's moving in Might be taking a shower later during the podcast and taking us with them. We went through in Austin a week ago a horrendous heat wave. We're about to do it again. Yeah. Are we really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hottest June ever recorded. And we broke a record for power usage too. Which that's not a good thing.

Yeah, those two go hand in hand right? Yeah, I would assume so. I just looked in like the next five days or over 100 starting tomorrow. Well, the good news for us going into this heat wave versus the last heat wave Is that our AC broke during the last Heat wave and the guy comes out and looks at it and says yeah, we're gonna replace the whole unit It'll be 8 grand so I said oh my god I don't want to pay 8 grand for you know

We rent the space that we're in now, but when you rent commercial space especially downtown You're responsible for things like HVAC. So we were going to have to replace it at our own cost for our landlord. So I called out somebody else just for the hell of it and see, like, let's get a different estimate on this and see how much it's going to be. The second dude came out, worked for two hours with a garden hose and fixed the AC, and now it's freezing in here.

Apparently it was dirty. He sprayed some water in our AC, cleaned out the muck, and saved us 8 grand. The first guys were like, okay, we got to test the structural integrity of the roof, and we got to figure out where we're going to put it crane, and we'll probably need to come in after hours and weekends because you guys are downtown and you all know this. Some guys like, where do you have our love goss, big it, fur from water, run the garden hose, and fix everything. And he fixed our hot water too, and our bathroom safety.

That was pretty embarrassing. Our, our, our, our, our how water in our sink in the bathroom has always suffered from like a little trickle. Yeah. And that's it. And I thought that it was a safety device. I would complain about it saying, why did they put these safety devices? We're going to burn ourselves because you'd run it and run for like two

seconds at high pressure and then like go to a trickle. and then he's down there working on it and because we're trying to hook the hose up to our sink somehow and he goes you don't have hot water up here and I said oh we do but it's got the safety mechanism in it by the way and while I'm saying this to him he turns a knob under the sink and all of a sudden hot water comes out and go or or maybe it's that he threw that in for free yeah it goes like a water genius maybe he could we just end up a video from the server bike saving him figure out what that is scientists are stunts and they'll be like that's Phil I know do I have to jump off at the conference call now they're gonna call us so okay we don't even have to do that goofy call on things says and

when you guys hear the phone ring you'll know that means we're doing something important we let them participate in the musical this everybody everybody just hang out? Be cool. Everybody just say pound. Well, now the cool thing is that we have now someone who answers our phone for us, which is something we should have gotten probably three years ago. That's true. And we have a new hire who works here, who goes by the name of painting.

And that's into coincide with the number of print calls. We get simultaneously. We did get a high number of print calls last night. I'm almost wondering if he is telling his friends to prank all the office so they can have more work to do. Yeah that got pretty bad. I mean we usually do a fairly good job of avoiding prank calls but last night was pretty bad. Yeah well I thought it was crazy day. Yeah it was right after you left to God. Oh it got worse. We didn't answer the phone so we just like ring ring ring. Probably rang for like

an hour straight of them calling back and calling back and calling back. But if you're listening to the podcast, thanks a lot. Yeah, we really appreciate that. Yeah, those are nice. That's nothing better than having to stop work to deal with that. Yeah. So I'm sorry the episode of Reversible won't be out this week, but we had to talk about butt sex with you. See, my problem is, too, I always want to like joke along for the first 30 seconds, and

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show go. And then Gus goes. This commercial is the side grouch. Apparently you were talking about the Digibata's and antiquated equipment earlier. Yeah. Apparently they're using some antiquated equipment. That's why I brought it up. I don't want to get specific about it. Yeah, let's not be specific at all, but they have to do that for some reason and I keep getting like you know these little messages from Gus. They're just like angry Gus You know because he's he's in there dealing with this stuff, and I think Joel's probably not making it easier

Then venting is a very big part of the process, where you run into things, and not everyone vents. I vent probably more than anybody else. Yes, you do. Because I knew more work. But when I come up against it, I'll walk out into the other room to actually go vent, and then I'll come back in. I think lately, what I've said the most is, you don't hate about Mac.

Oh, Mac. I like things in general, but here's what I particularly hate about it, this one moment. And I'll vent, and then I'll just come back in. I don't expect anybody to solve my problem or anything like that. Unless, when Gus comes back, I'm going to talk to him about this, either or nothing. Get the third and second. Yeah.

Joel's M.O. is Joel will come in and tell you why what he's doing is extremely hard. And then he'll finish, as though he's asking a question but he doesn't want any kind of response. He doesn't want a solution of any kind. Kind of like it's kind of like being married. It is. It is kind of a trick move, right? Actually, isn't it?

Yeah. And he just wants you to, I don't know what he wants, does he want me to say it's what you're doing is so hard. It's I sympathize. I sympathize. Yeah. I have feelings. Let's read Twilight chapter.

Do you think through the course of the four days, those guys are a I sympathize. Yeah, I have feelings. Let's read Twilight chapter Do you think through the course of the four days those guys are in Orlando together? They had more than 10 lines of conversation. I'm just hoping they both come back You know, I know we can see you're gonna one of them. Yeah, I think not both of them. Maybe some kind of hybrid will come back How long have we been here? In this room? Oh, that's a conversation call. All right, will I pause this? And the conference call is...

Maybe it's seven minutes late. Maybe the conference print call. It could be... We're calling from Los Angeles. Do you guys want to have butts? Hello? Matt's on the call. Hi, this is Matt.

Okay, best conference call ever. Wow, that was an awesome conference call. There's only 11 and a half minutes. I, as far as conference calls go, that's a good sign. That's a great time. I take everything negative you guys said about conference calls. I feel bad. I feel guilty now for making fun of a conference call. And then it treats me so well. It's killing me with kindness, conference call. Okay, while we're

making fun of things, let's make fun of Gus. Yeah, let's make fun of Gus. You want to talk about how our fucking ports don't work? Let's talk about that. That's a great topic to talk about. How long have we been in this building? Seven years. We've been in this building for seven years. Actually closer to and a half, I would say. You might want to check your calendar. Split the difference. Okay. I was on a two and a half year. We've. You might want to check your calendar. Split the difference. Okay. I was on a half. Two and a half years. We went in here two and a half years. How long did Gus have dedicated himself to being here? You mean before we knew then? Before we knew then. He had like three months.

Exactly right. Yeah. And there was two things that were critical, which was to get all the network up and running. Yes. And then also remember the circuit breakers was an issue that we wanted to split that stuff. Also, I was hoping he was going to do something about the Wendy and running. Yes. And then also remember the circuit breakers was an issue that we wanted to split that stuff. Also, I was hoping he was gonna do something about the Wendy's smell. Those left in here. That didn't happen. Our office used to be the upstairs of a Wendy's.

Many moons ago. I bet you guys didn't even know that Wendy's had upstairs. You know who knew? You know, if I had this place with bathrooms when we moved in. Did you ever eat at that Wendy's? No. I ate her once and I sat upstairs.

Really? But it's like, why the fuck would a girl who had's weapon Wendy's have an upstairs. I gotta go check it out. Was anyone else upstairs? Yeah, yeah, this was like late 90s. I think mid to late 90s. Oh Because you know people I do upstairs in the late 90s. Yeah, it's Wendy's upstairs 90 style Wendy's upstairs sounds like one of the things on the list of dirty sex moves, I gave her a Wendy's upstairs. I challenge any of you listening to this to come up with what that is and email it to gustsandristerdeaf.com. That's gus at roosterteeth.com. But there were times when we were working in the office at the end of season five the beauty office Yeah, and Gus was like I'm sorry. I can't be here. I have to go to the new office for hours or days at a time yes and

What what did we get for that? I'll tell you what we got for that For you answer we got him out of the office We got a old office. We got eyebrows out of the office and then we moved in here and we have at every desk There's four ethernet ports or more. Which I think would be enough. You would absolutely think there would be enough. And this is a big if. All four of them worked.

For some reason, Justice decided not to hook up all the ethernet ports. And he's never explained why. But when you want one, you have to go to him and ask him, can you please set up my ethernet ports at my desk? He'll come over, look at him, go, I can do that. And then he goes and sets it up. In two seconds. But now we have a dead port in here,

Gus is out of town, I can't use it. Yeah. Not only that, but our ports, we only get like half the use that like a normal operation would get because all of our computers now use two ports. Right. We have two ports per computer. So you have four ports. No, you really only have two. Because like a computer needs two of those ports just to have our normal network setup, which is an abnormal network setup. Which I have to say is very cool.

It is very cool that we can do it. But it's like one less port. So if you need your laptop or an Xbox or something else on that, you know, you're you've already been cut down. So there's like really, you know you've already been cut down. So there's like really you know There's really two ports. Yeah, and then those aren't set up So you have like half of one port and there seems to be no rhyme a reason to it too Like you and I tried to hook it up to port number three under my desk yesterday doesn't work one two and four are active Right why not three why not one two and four active? Yeah, because there's no one's ever asked to have three set up There's something I miss what does Gus have against the number three? I think he's hiding something

I think perhaps we don't really hiding it like he's running these other ports somewhere else and making money on the side I'm just way more like some kind of a port redirect scheme He's selling the internet to the coffee shop downstairs But he did go off to Orlando, which is nice, because sometimes these business trips will get a little ridiculous. Yeah, that's true. I'm hoping they go to a Disney World and get one of those gigantic Rice Krispie treats in the shape of Mickey's head. Do you remember when we went to J.M.?

I do. It was like the ears were chocolate. The rest of it was delicious. Oh, so good. It was enormous. I can't imagine how much I love the idea of Joel and Gus going to Disneyland together. In Disney World, excuse me. I would pay for those vacation photos.

They dress up like pirates. That'd be awesome. The photo of them standing next to Mickey Mouse would be the most amazing thing ever. Speaking of pirates. Speaking of pirates. Oh shit, speaking of pirates. The pirate bay this week didn't shut down. No. Didn't go to jail. Nope. They sold their company for $8 million

to another software gaming company. Some kind of Swedish gaming network site. Yeah. And now they've just sold their company off. Even though they were just basically found guilty and are being thrown in jail and find four million dollars, they then get to sell that company to somebody else for eight million dollars. What the hell? Basically insane. That's basically insane, right? It's pretty insane.

You know what they did by though, what that eight million dollars or seven point eight million dollars, I think to be exact. They bought the entire user base from everybody that's had an account on the stolen shit illegally on pirate bay. That's absolutely right. That's absolutely right. Do you have to have an account to be on pirate bay? I think you do. I think you have a user name in the password from the thing, right? I'm the very least they have the IP records. Yeah. You know, and I read a post to where the main dude from the pirate base says, we have never kept logs of this stuff. We don't keep logs. You're, you know, your confidentiality

is always been very important to us And we'll continue to be so it's like yes, unless we can make a lot of money. Yeah, so was you not selling out? That was another thing too you guys not selling the site and you guys supposedly giving everything away for free and Being the champions of anti copyright this stuff shouldn't cost money. It should be free So we're gonna give it to you for free until we sell out to a company that's going to start charging. Exactly right. And the switch, it was like flipping a switch on these guys because they were like, oh, we're doing this, like putting up all their legal letters and making all these, like flying in the face of all that, they're like, oh, take us to court.

We dare you. Somebody takes them to court. Finally, you know, the first person that takes them to court meets them. And then they're instantly like, okay, that's it. We're in order to maintain this site and have the site continue, we have to convert to a profit model. It's like, I mean, they're talking like a corporation instantaneously.

You know, nobody ever talks about this, because nobody seems to care. But the industry most affected by piracy has got to be the porn industry. I would think so, yeah. Right? I mean, nobody cares about that at all. Actually, actually, probably right off the bat, photographers have been affected

more than anybody else because nobody thinks twice about trading images or post reposting images. I mean, if you, if you mentioned that, what is this image copyright, people were like, what are you talking about? Yeah, I saw like, like somebody's images for sale, like they take some, take in some HDR images. And they were telling them, I'm so sick of that. You sick of HDR yet? I could go either way. God. But anyway, I was like seeing this and it's like, how is this guy going to sell these images?

Because like, these are all over flicker and you can just download and print yourself or whatever, like, you know, or have the envelope services where you can just print from the website. Yeah, print from the website. It's like, no, nobody's going to buy the prints, you know? Yeah. It's like, it doesn't happen anymore. It's like that technology is like just past that market

segment by. Yeah. Those are people who made a lot of money for a long time doing that stuff. Yeah. You made a living college doing that stuff. I did. Not a good living.

Yeah. That's moving on to the crazy way videos instead of giving way pictures The crazy thing about the porn thing is that you never hear the porn industry as a whole complain either like you hear the movie industry The music industry you know what though they don't grouse like at the beginning of a movie I mean how many of us have seen this where you go to watch a movie you go to watch like Transformers and there's a dude There's like a carpenter talking to you and he's like I work eight months out of the year

I bust my ass making sets for movies and I just lost my job of piracy like you never see at the beginning of a porn movie Not that I've ever seen a porn or ever would because I'm happy married But you never see like a chick with like two dicks in her hand going I suck dicks 11 months out of the year But thanks to piracy now I can only suck one dick and my daughter can't go to private school What just a double up on the dick? No, no, I've got to do do the gang bang 50 to make ends meet. Yeah, I have to fuck 12 dudes to get paid what I used to get paid for fucking two. Yeah, I think that's just a function of the fact that

that's one of the dude's friends. You know, porn doesn't have very high budgets. Like people aren't getting paid $20 million. You know what I mean? No. You know, there are a lot of people who make money. It's calling now we have another conference call. Oh somebody calling me an i-chat and I have to cancel it. But there's a lot of people who make a lot of money on movies like gaffers and you know best boys and people. Focus pullers and how much

of a percentage of a budget do you think salary wise what's that breakdown for people the above the line people as they're called and the below the line people I mean the thing is like when you see those you know sappy don't pirate you know commercials before the movie with the carpenter saying I can't get a job because it's not the way it works that guy's salary is not gonna move one penny it's you neither set yeah whether whether or not the pirating happens the studio might lose a few bucks here There, right, you know, that guy's not gonna make any more or less money. You know, I'm sure that they're trying to con him into thinking

He's gonna make more or less money, but I can't achieve you if piracy went away today The studios aren't gonna go. You know what? Let's pay that carbon there's more money, right? He deserves some more money because we're not being pirated from anymore Right. It's namely the video games too is I hate video game piracy. I really do because I see people who were so hard at it. It's kind of in my opinion a fledgling industry still they're growing and they haven't quite established like people work really long hours making these video games. I mean super long hours. And there's I'm starting to hear more and more stuff about royalties making their way

down to people who work on the games. But for the large part, it's a salary job with ridiculously long hours. Yeah, I'm going to qualify what I was in before and that piracy is wrong. And the fact that the carpenter's salary is not going to change doesn't make the piracy better. Absolutely. But you're talking about the reality, so. It's that the reality of it is like this guy in a sense is being exploited

You know having to go out and say like you know piracy is affecting me personally when it's really It's not affecting him personally. It's a Permanagement studio decisions that are affecting him personally if piracy ended tomorrow for software and for movies Would there be any illusion that they would lower the price of either? That is a great question. I don't know. That's always the big argument they make. I think with PC, you know, and games, you know, stuff, software and games, but I don't know about movies. I don't think movies would change. But what will happen, I think, is the PC gaming industry to me is right at the heart of the piracy issue,

because you have to have a high-end PC to run the game. That's the qualification. Like, you don't have to have an internet connection to go see a movie and a movie theater. So, a hundred percent of your audience can't really convert to piracy. They might buy something off the street, but it's unlikely. But people with high-end computers have connections to the internet and high-speed connections, usually. They are much higher probability of being exposed to piracy and participating in piracy. And you can see the effect of having a PC gaming. I don't think there will be shelf PC games within the next two or three years. I really don't.

Everything will be subscription based. Everything will be like Steam. Yeah, or wow. Yeah, wow. I mean, I think people will just move more and more towards that. And we're seeing it I mean how often does a PC title really come out? You know that's a that's a really high-end decent one the guys who made crisis said that

90% of the people playing on the multi-multiple air servers were playing on pirated copies and who knows? You know people always make the argument of well if I didn't if I wouldn't have purchased this anyway if I had In pirated I think that argument goes right out the door at the moment you play the game. Especially if you're playing on a server that they've got to maintain, you know, it costs them a lot of money to maintain and run those servers. Right. If you play the game for like more than two seconds, you know, to look at it or whatever, then that's done. You're playing the game. You can't say I wouldn't have played it, because you're clearly playing it. Yeah. Yeah. And this is becoming a major source of entertainment,

too. Another thing that people don't ever talk about with piracy issues, this is a global thing. Like we talk about the pirate bay being in Sweden and all that. This is an American industry, by and large. Movies and games. And entertainment industry. Yeah, the entertainment industry.

It's a more of the major industries that we have left. It's becoming, it's going to be our national export pretty soon, right? Pretty soon, yeah. And we do it well. I mean, I think America does it really well. I mean, maybe because Hollywood has pushed you know Western storytelling out to the world and now the games are following it and

music as well but you know Michael Jackson just died American artist globally this guy was huge you know and so when we hear about other people pirating in other countries it's like especially in the internet like this ra ra attitude about that it's like yes tickets like this internet, there's raw, raw attitude about that. It's like, yeah, it's tickets like, this is your major industry in your country. I mean, there's no patriotic feeling at all of like that you might end up in this industry yourself one day, especially people who like to play games. They might end up in gaming as well.

And it's interesting, like we don't go through and pillage other people's industries, you know? Yeah, by and large. And if we did the American government would probably put the kibosh on it. Speaking of which, you heard you read that China, banned gold farming. I saw that, yeah.

Made it illegal, the gold farm. You know what gold farming is? In a while? Yeah, in a while where they have like sweatshops where people just go and gather resources and MMOs and then sell them online. That's in China. In China. And there's a huge problem with that in South Korea as well.

Yeah. What I understand. I think it's in South Korea still the most internet connected and I think the most online game playing country like per capita. I believe so. I believe so. This is where you always see the stories of,

you know, the guys who play for 25 hours straight and fall over dead. And they have, they have like starcraft in that country is a sport, a national sport. And they will have televised events of people playing starcraft against each other. Speaking of South Korea though, and then starcraft, did you read that Blizzard has removed landplay from starcraft to? There will be no landplay. Why?

I don't know. I don't know what the rationale behind it is. Gus said it's probably because people tend to cheat on land But if you're in the room with the person who's cheating with you? We get together with the will cheat. That's really bizarre. Yeah, especially considering how competitive Starcraft is in other countries. I you know Blizzard a smart company. I guess they have a good reason to do it You know what that's a good point. Why even are you right? They're probably making the right decision You know if there's a right decision to be made in the video game industry

Blizzard's making yeah probably so probably so and then while we were doing the last podcast We saw that Bethesda bought id or Bethesda's parent company who have never heard of Xenomax Xenomax Never heard of Xenomax on your Fallout 3 loadout screen every time which I have now noticed since I saw the press release I've now noticed is Xenomax that is not a brand I was familiar with in any way. Were you? No, no, no. What's your favorite Zenomax game? I think it's Fallout 3. It's not like some dude like, like, cinematics, you know, what's trying to like, cop, you know, like, ride on the coattails of cinematics,

and maybe people think they were making like, racey games or something like that. You know, it's starting Shane and Tweed and the dude from greatest American hero. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha radio, phonograph thing that she's got for a play she's designing. And you told me that Motorola started as a knockoff brand of Victrola. You know, that's correct. Sort of. Sort of. They started as a company that made mobile record players. That is correct. That's why Victrola was the big brand. Everybody, he was like one of those brand names that becomes synonymous with the product like Band-Aid or Kleenex. Yeah. Yeah. And they made record players that you put in your car.

Sure, because they didn't have tapes or any other form of permanent, I think they only had AM radio at the time. If that in a car. Yeah, they might not have had any radio or audio. Or any music you listen to in your car is on a record, which preposterous you know which is why you need a specialized product to do it. You know specialized product and it's so the motor and the motor I should say and the the Rola from Vectrola right you know they want to people to think of their

product as they instantly know what it was and people were saying Vectrola as being this you know phonograph and your motor vehicle and you have a Vectrola. Here's a mobile version of it and now we think of motor Rola as being the cell phone mobile company phonograph, you know. You're motor vehicle and you have a controller. Here's a mobile version of it. Now, we think of Motorola as being the cell phone mobile company. That's where the name came from. Still fucking around, somewhere like Herman Victrola wakes up every day and curses the Motorola Corporation. That was great, great, great kid.

Mother fuckers. It's the lion's street. Exactly right. It's weird that stuff gets buried in history. Does it give me RCA, though, was it? What's that? It's a Victrola become RCA and an RCA. Stop being something else? I have no idea.

I think so. I still have Reginald Victrola. I think your point is still valid. Herman. He didn't change his name. It was Herman. It was Herman RCA. Code of Chrome just got shelved.

It's gone. I thought it's sad. Where I grew up, I was born in Rochester, New York. The two major companies in Rochester, New York. Xerox? No, IBM. No, you're right. Xerox. Xerox. And Kodak. And Kodak. Right. You think about two companies that could possibly be hurt by the digital revolution. And Xerox and Kodak.

I mean, I was born in Detroit. So, where else can America do you know this? Those are like two, that's just devastating, right? I mean? I mean like to have those two industries that's the whole town. But it's in, have you been back to Rochester? I have been back to Rochester. And what do people there do for employment now? Honestly, what is anyone in America do now? You know, they work, they work that earlier.

They're all gaffers. They're on an app like movies. But yeah, I mean it's, you know, they just, they work in stores. We're about to go through another revolution where retail stores are going to start closing by the dozens. Yeah, but although we shouldn't predict this so soon because that's what everyone was predicting. And the first internet bubble. Yeah, but I've heard that so much. It's very exposing. Web band was going to deliver all your groceries. Now we We're gonna be grocery stores anymore

How did that product fail? How did web van fail? People getting afforded I could afford I could afford not to go to the grocery store I would find a way to afford not go into the grocery store I hate going to the grocery store dude. I got a grocery store next to you T So my grocery store the call hit club HB Because it's just hot chicks all day and all that long go to the grocery store's an event like you dress up He's gonna look good. Yeah, but then I would feel bad about putting the stuff that I buy like my you know

Fig newtons that I dip in peanut butter Do you ever get self conscious about what's in your cart at all? No, no really like you guys We don't buy the same stuff you buy. I think we need to buy like butt medicine or something like that. And you like marry that. Even when I, you know, I had babies, you know, I would buy diapers, you know, I just like, somehow, what size of your body? See, I look at it like this. If some hot chick sees me walking around with diapers, she knows I got laid. Or you're trying to.

Hey kids like a diaper somewhere car. Carbable. You know, I don't know whether I feel more self-conscious to buy a buying garbage food or bought about buying healthier food because then it looks like I'm trying too hard. You know, like, yeah, well, look you've got chicken breasts and yogurt and cottage cheese like the fucker You're kidding buddy Just started yesterday, huh? Yeah exactly right. It's funny because one time one time I did by like You know, I bought cottage cheese and yogurt and chicken breasts and the woman checking out my stuff She says she says oh, you're going on a diet, huh? I was like

So I said her I said, actually, I've already, I've been on a diet. I've lost a bunch of weight. She goes, really, how much? I go, when I started, I was 500 pounds. So he's like, really? So I went for being like, fatty who needs to lose weight to being like this unbelievably fit dude all of a sudden. Yeah, the next Jared. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They had the, the first time I came to the grocery store. I was in a came in on a crane Remember that day he's a swing me in a pull a wall out to bring me to the grocery store All right, what else should we talk about anything else? Oh God, let's let's see. What else is there to talk about in the world? You guys trouble celebrity deaths before I get in here. No, we didn't oh shit

We haven't well. Let's talk about people who died I thought you know that you can't think of three more different celebrities to die. And when I, although I take that back, because if you start with Michael Jackson, you can't think of any other celebrity who's similar to Michael Jackson. But still it seemed like the three that we had are both the three that are very iconic. You know, the hears Johnny and the ferrofosite poster from forever. And, you know, she was not that old. She was too young to die. Yeah. Because she was, she was, she was, she was a UT and you know she was not at all. She was too young to die. Yeah, because she was she was she went to UT, you know what? Yeah. Do you know how many of those posters

they sold? I can't imagine. 20 million. 20 million of those spare faucet posters were there. Are you kidding me? That's before Walmart too. That's a lot of jerking off. I wonder if she made any money from that because she didn't seem like super rich or anything. No, she didn't seem like it. She she was even like Comedy Central roast at the end of her life There which made the poster money wasn't keeping up. You think they've gone through like a retro Kind of revival with those as well. I wonder if we will now if they'll start cropping up. No, like do you imagine that? I don't know. I'm not gonna put up a dead woman up. I mean that's not right now the other on Saturday Gus should be this we looked at the most sold albums on Amazon like their top 25 list

That's different. It is a little different but Michael Jackson was the first 16 albums Yeah, he was one through 16 and then he was like four more out of the top 25. It was fucking nuts. Yeah, it's totally believable Totally believable, although I can't name I can't name 16 Michael Jackson albums. Oh gosh. No, he doesn't I mean, it's all I came three had like a bunch of albums that like nobody bought He had he had I can name him because I I just read a thing it was off the wall thriller bad You're done I'm out bad those are the ones everybody in right then he had one called Invincible I would argue most people don't know bad and he had one great

I think you really it was a second it was his back second best selling out like 20 million copies Her bit being middle school and the who's bad, wasn't that the one with Wesley Snipes? Yeah, in the video. You know what I got to press about? I learned that the smooth criminal lean that they do, they lean forward. Oh, it's on me that's fake. It's fake. It is?

Oh man. Completely fake. I'm talking about you ruining my childhood yet again. Michael Jackson had a patent on a pair of shoes that had a wedge in them, like a grooved wedge. And he would slide for stage performance to slide the shoes into pegs And they would hold his feet still so we could do that like would lock them in place like skis almost and The articles specifically said that they got the patent for the shoes so they could do it during live performances Because they couldn't replicate the wire and harnesses they had in the video which made it seem even worse to me

Yeah, it's like why even do do that in a video if you're not, we have this weird. Who do you think was farther outside their popularity when they died? Elvis or Michael Jackson? Well, Elvis had that comeback tour, not too long before he died, right? Right.

He was probably, he was not in his prime, certainly, but I think he was still now. And he didn't have legal troubles with Michael Jackson. Right. Do you have any idea how old Elvis was when he died? No. No, I think it was in his 40s. I don't think he got up to 50. I got to say Michael Jackson was further away than right. He was. Yeah. I don't know. I read a really interesting article the other day and it was about we all

have to just recognize the fact that at some point, whether it's 20 years from now or 30 years from now or a year from now, that Star Wars is going to be rebooted and they're going to remake Star Wars. Lucas will have to die. I'm well I keep wondering especially after having seen the Netflix I just saw is if Frank Derrbont is going to do the 7 8 9 which is which was talked about for a long time. Right. I don't know if that was just like a you know, you know, or his conspiracy thing but I I've heard that you guys have heard this. No I remember reading an article that like Lucas said he doesn't want anything to do with it But he trusted

Spielberg and Derribont if they were on it They could they could do it. Yeah, you know, we were looking at the box office of the day, right and we were looking at the top Grossing directors, right and Lucas was at number four, right? Right, and we saw in their number of movies six Well, what I forgot when we were looking at that those aren't six Star Wars movies. He only directed four Star Wars movies The other two are American Graffiti and T.H. X. Oh, so he's in the top three or top four Highest grossing number four highest grossing directors with only having made six movies two of which weren't Star Wars movies. Because Empire Strikes Back was Irvin Kirschner, right?

My saying that right. And number six was Richard Markhand? Really? The only one I knew was Kirschner directing Empire Strikes Back. That's the only one I knew. That's really interesting. And who did the top guys? It was Spielberg and Mechis. It was Spielberg's number one. The Mechis was number two. Michael Bay was number three. Or no, it wasn't Ron Howard. Ron Howard was number three. Lucas was number four. And then I think it might have been Bay. Who knows? Yeah. Yeah. But I was really surprised to see that George Lucas was behind Ron Howard of all people. And it's a mechus, you know. Yeah.

What's Ron Howard's biggest movie? I would say cocoon or he said so many movies that were in that middle $200. Success like just barely hit $100 million or like 80 to 120. He did a lot of porn that got pirated. Didn't make a lot of money. The mechus biggest one was probably forest Forest gum, right? I would I guess Didn't you code and then it seems like he's work with Tom Hanks more than once

Oh, sweet and Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg. Did you see they're making a sequel to band of brothers? Another mini series on HBO. No, yeah, and the Pacific that's gonna be incredible It's gonna be a different cast completely. Oh, yeah, yeah specific theater. What do be incredible. It's got to be a different cast completely right? Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, Pacific theater. What do you look? It was it it's an interesting time. Ron Howard, you know, an IMDB It credits you with one movie that you're most well known for and Ron Howard is American graffiti. Oh, which I know Never think about him being American graffiti. I don't think about him being an actor at all. Well, let's see. Let's see if we can pick out what his Ron Howard's biggest movie is Producer splash was pretty big right a league of their own foreign away was not a big hit see if we can pick out what his Ron Howard's biggest movie is. Producer.

Splash was pretty big, right? A league of their own. Foreign away was not a big hit. You know, Willow was not a big hit either. Oh, there's George Lucas in the mix again. Yeah, Willow was a, I thought Willow was a great trailer. I was really excited about what it was. The man that movie was just one of those trailers that's like

the trailer in the movie just don't match up at all. But if you look at Willow, if you look back now what Willow was, whether the dude with the skull face and all that, it was basically Star Wars meets Lord of the Rings. Yeah. And like a fantasy Star Wars, but very obviously Lord of the Rings influence. What is in that genre? I feel like I remember the time thinking this is a bad he-man knockoff. It was bad.

It's like he man is just like seems like a knockoff of other things too right. Yeah. Do you guys remember the Lucas putt willow in Star Wars? He was in the Senate in episode. Yeah. He was in job. He was all over the place. Yeah. He was hanging on a young grito too. Also right. Was it a tea in the Senate? A lot of people are. The ETs were in Chubacca. The Mookies were in there. Backstreet boys. Backstreet boys. The Backstreet boys were Jedi. Michael Jackson.

Oh, yeah. There does seem to be too like this recalibration of someone's life after they die. Did you ever read an E. Orson Scott card books? Like, yeah. I read two of the big series. I read Inters game and I read the direct sequel to Inters game. Speaker for the dead.

Yes. OK, that's a really interesting concept to me the speaker for the dead which is when someone dies Someone stands up and tells the story of their life Honestly sugarcoded doesn't sugarcoded. This is the way the person was and that you're your your successes Are part of your life with so are your failures and your faults as well. I just part of being human I just want you guys to know I don't want that By the way, I want you guys to make me sound awesome if I human. I just want you guys to know, I don't want that. By the way, I want you guys to make me sound awesome

if I go before you do. But you kind of do. You kind of do want that. And here's why you want that. Because Michael Jackson, two weeks ago, every article about him would have been front cover, what a friggin weirdo, what a loser, what a maniac. And then he dies, and he's the greatest guy on the planet.

But Michael Jackson died a weirdo. That's what he thought the world thought about him. He was a wacko weirdo. That's what they call him wacko jacko. And the moment he dies, then everyone comes out, if this guy, if you love this guy, tell him that was alive. Don't tell him that when he, don't celebrate him after he's dead. Take the time to celebrate his life while he's still alive

It's just it's just it's kind of saddened away to me, you know, it's it's it's in a way He almost do hope he's still alive and he gets to read like all the positive things that people say about him And he'd forgive him of all of his faults of like he had a hard life. He was a child star You know, I just it just seems indisogeneuous that now that they're dead now We speak so highly of them where we just beat them with abuse, you know, and all these insults while they're still alive. David, don't you feel listening? I love you. There you go, brother.

There you go. That's what you really do. Great example. We talked about this. I talked about you, Matt, about the So I ask you, Jeff, what is arguably the best rock band in history, the best pop rock band globally known that everyone in the world has been touched by this band. The Beatles, okay?

Great answer. Who is the least talented of the Beatles? And who will be, who do you think is there because it doesn't deserve to be there? Paul, I don't, I mean, I don't know that any, Ringo catches a lot of shit, right? But I don't know that he's not talented. John Lennon had a great ringo quote

which is a reporter asked him what we're apparently ringo stormed off of uh... rehearsal or something like that uh... and report rassum uh... do you think that ringo is the best rock drummer in the world and john reply was

ringo's not even the best drummer in the beetles ha haingo is probably the guy who gets the least amount of credit for the Beatles. Out of all of them. Like, had the least influence over the success of the band. Would you agree with that? Absolutely. Okay. Who's gonna die last? Oh, definitely Ringo. Definitely Ringo. Paul is looking old. He's having a horribly stressful life. Ringo doesn't seem bothered by anything. Lost half his money. Yeah. Ringo's got another 20, 30 years on him. Probably. So then what's gonna happen here? If we look the way we treat people and celebrities He's embaltered by anything. Last half is money. Ringo's got another 20, 30 years on him. Probably. So then what's going to happen here?

If we look the way we treat people in celebrities when they die, Ringo's going to die, and then it's going to be the end of the Beatles. Like, all people will say is how influential Ringo was. And it'll all like, he'll inherit all of that basically. That's a really good point. He'll be the last Beatles. Right. It'll be the end of the Beatles.

And here's what they did. And everything will be like wow you know you know Ringo was this amazing talent nobody's staying that today you know I mean nobody's doing that stuff today everybody's making fun of Ringo and you know playing caveman at a midnight screening and that kind of stuff and it's just like Ringo will be the last beetle you know and he'll be the end of the the Beatles era essentially what are do you do over there? I think we're done.

So I can play with a knife. I can't just, you know, it's idle hands. Okay. Well, we have, we're have episode four recreation coming out this Monday, a new short coming out on Friday, hopefully probably late on Friday. I'm short, I short schedule, man, it's getting, it's getting crunch crunched, harder and harder every week.

Last week, you did a 20 hour day on Friday and that was pretty brutal. Matt took a script. I short schedule man is getting crunch crunch harder and harder every week last week I did a 20 hour day on Friday and that was pretty brutal Matt took a script that I had which was two guys talking in the office And then a pal with the box joke Matt took it. We are already under tight time frame He added two locations and an actress and four pages and four pages right so it's like all of a sudden now Sorry, you know, what's that probably not to do that this week no that was awesome I mean you were the guy who was here till Friday night at 1 a.m so yeah I was like I was like to like 2 a.m. or something that was fucking nuts no somebody in somebody responded hey why'd you guys post this so late you just wait and post it tomorrow I'm like I supposed to do for you what is this stupid comment too it's it's it's do they think it's like

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