Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #13

Episode Date: July 8, 2009

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It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie comes a new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-oxane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motor-mouthed outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnett, and Thomas Hayden Church.

Twisted metal, streaming now, only on peacock. Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo You being taken and that's first drunk it is with tank. Hey everyone, welcome to the drum tank. It's short. Fucking easy enough. That's my favorite. I think out of all the entries we received. Sorry to everyone else who's entered. That's my favorite theme song entry so far. What's the rest of you take solace in the fact that Gus' opinion means jack shit?

Hey man. I pick the theme songs. My opinion means everything. Well that one's going into the next theme song probably. Hey everyone, I'm Gus Arula. Joel Haven. I'm Olivia Munn.. Joel Heyman. I'm Olivia Munn I'm Jeff Ramsay. I would totally do Bernie this week. Yeah, I would do myself You know Joel has a picture of Olivia Munn over his desk and I thought it was a girl

He knew for a long time like three or four months and I finally recognized it as being Olivia Munn turns out It's a girl he'll never know Olivia Munn is like the number one reason to Follow Kevin Perriora era on Twitter because he takes a lot of candid photos of her and just post them up there Oh geez, I'm following the wrong person. Yeah, absolutely. She doesn't take candid photos of herself So that's a little protein. Why wouldn't she? I don't know. I would you know what do anything else? You know a couple of weeks ago We were very impressed with how well our podcast was doing on iTunes And why wouldn't she? I don't know. I would. You know, we'd do anything else. You know, a couple of weeks ago,

we were very impressed with how well our podcast was doing on iTunes. And I decided to look and see what the podcast immediately in front of us in the list of most popular podcasts was. And it was some podcast that she's in, where they unveiled her Playboy magazine cover. Wow.

That's the one that was barely beating us. You all have your priorities all wrong. It doesn't seem a satisfying auditorially, know as it would visually. Yeah. I think I think it was a video podcast. Oh. Well there's no way we're gonna beat that. They have that technology. Was she naked in the video podcast? Was she naked in playboy? No. No. Yeah. I don't like that. I'm gonna go on around naked under her clothes. No. That's stupid. But I don't know where the camera is. I don't like that. I'm gonna go on right here naked under her clothes. Yeah, that's stupid But I don't know where the camera is. I don't like stuff that

Insinuates nudity and then doesn't deliver it and Olivia Munn being in playboy You're expecting you she might have just not as well just been a maximum. It's like mislabeling the ingredients on food You can't do that. That's illegal. Yeah, it's like Shannon Elizabeth's career Like playboy light Do you guys ever she Tom cats? Yes, no I didn't because I did not because I think you told me you's trying to Elizabeth Just not get naked in it right she played a cop in that movie. Yeah, I don't know that interest it What a turn on all that authority It would have been if she'd taken a top off. It's a hot package Yeah, but she decided she was not gonna she made that announcement I'm not gonna be naked movies anymore and then that was it. Yep. The radar had one less swipe one less

Yeah, and then she put gone now she plays professional poker. She went to stealth mode. Does she really play professional poker? Yeah, wow She's in all those us like celebrity poker tournaments and shit She's big time Interesting. Yeah. Seems like every other person that has a lot of money is playing poker now. I'm almost feeling it. Has you won any tournaments?

I don't know. We could look it up on the internet and find out. I mean, it's easy. You know, I mean, how great would it be? Like, half your talent is basically luck. I know there's a lot of skill involved with poker, but who the fuck are we kidding? I mean, really?

So, you know, it's 50% skill and 50% luck Yeah, I'm with Bernie on that one. I mean you gotta have you gotta have the talent and let's see what's going on To get to the point where you have the luck pay off unless you don't know what you're doing and the 50% luck has nothing to do with it That's what I'm saying. Yeah, if you have no talent all then you have Then you get a lot level. Yeah, but it's just yeah, so these celebrities who go on those shows. It's just just it's a party. They're getting paid to go. It's like celebrity in the USA either you're going to become a professional poker player or a politician.

Those are the two paths. That's it. So which one of those is parasolting going to become? We should be scared. I think she should be a politician probably. Honestly, she did that stupid ass fun your die McCain ad that everyone thought was a pocket. That is not a good ad at all. Who the hell knows? I think that I think if Alec Baldwin decided like any probably already has a side of ways like

I'm just gonna drop off the entertainment radar for 10 years. He could he could become president. Alec Baldwin. Shit. He's he's he's he's on 30 rock. He's on top of the world right now You know the best thing going back a second here The best thing Paris Hilton ever did was that promotional thing at E3 where she showed up three hours late to promote her own game and then promoted the wrong game I Think fucking genius. She's no wrong. No one would have ever given a shit about that game We're cared if she hadn't set the wrong thing. I think I think her sex tape was better personally I think she's in the minority if they could incorporate the sex game into a game then that's a game. Okay. I think as long

as you've been on television at one point you can run for office in Minnesota and get elected. You know just go just go there. Like people know your name like I know this person I'll vote for them with the hell. Just even sure. Absolutely. Al Franken. Bring it, let's go. He just got swallowing in. Yeah, it was a close one though. Yeah it was.

If I had to guess where Al Franken lives or is from, Minnesota would probably be like 48th on the list behind Montana and South Dakota. Yeah, I always assumed he was in New Yorker. I thought he was Canadian. Did you? Yeah, I really thought he was a Canadian Maybe he must have moved to Minnesota to get that gig right I would guess so

That's bullshit. I don't know now. We're now we're getting mad angry about assumptions We don't even know maybe I'm gonna look it up. I got the internet and my fucking lab. I got the whole global consciousness right here Probably no, he's got a Minnesota pride tattoo and he's you know every gig He ever did he flew out of the fucking Minneapolis land of a thousand lakes bitch That's what it is right is that what is that Minnesota? I don't know it's somewhere up there to hell I went there a few times I spent a January in Minnesota once a few years ago. It was fucking miserable It's it's somewhere up in the who cares the sphere portion of the US take it easy

You take it easy. I'm sure there's a lot of people don't care what Texas is nope I uh one one of those times I went up to Minnesota a few years ago is there for work and one of my co-workers was also there and uh you know we you know got up in the morning and you know met at the rental car we're driving off to the office and he goes did you hear it in just in January by the way he was did you hear it snowed in Austin last night I was like what the fuck are you talking about he's yeah, it snowed like two feet in Austin last night. I was like, no, it didn't.

He's like, yeah, I saw it on the news this morning. He's like, it's probably Austin Minnesota, you idiot. Oh, there's an Austin Minnesota. I was like, yeah, it's about 30 miles away. You know my favorite memory of when you worked at that company where you had to travel around the country all the time? It's when you had to go to Rhode Island, so you stocked Elizabeth Hasselbeck.

Oh, that was awesome. She was Elizabeth Filarski at the time. And Filarski was all the time. It's when you had to go to Rhode Island so you stocked Elizabeth Hasselbeck. Oh, that was awesome. She was Elizabeth Fularski at the time. Fularski was before the view. It was like when that season of survivor was going on. Like, what God, who was that? Like 10 years ago? No, it wasn't that long ago. It was six, seven years ago.

Eight or nine, yeah, something. Was the second survivor right? The one in the outback? Yeah, yeah. Oh, no, it was it outback. It was after the survivor was over, I remember. Yeah, it was after the dude had fallen on the fire I remember that

Al Franken was born May 21st 1951 in New York New York what a fucking shock what I'm shocked and you know how everyone in New York Wants to get out of cold ass New York and moved to Minnesota right when they retire right it's the next Florida So why so here's the question why see in Minnesota does it the Wikipedia tell you he lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota I hear Minneapolis is awesome. I hear many apples is awesome as well. I wonder when he made that move I wonder Year ago or six months again. What do you think is the minimum amount of time you have to live in a state in order to run for Senate there? I would say probably five minutes. I would say it's probably six probably when he moved there I know just even sure I probably wasn't born in Minnesota either. We'll double check that

He has a better shot, I would say just even Tura versus Al Franken. Yeah, come on. We're just even Tura live now Oh, he's something California, right? He lives in Mexico. He lives in Mexico? Does he really? He doesn't look Mexican to me. I wouldn't have picked him for a second. Did you try to escape his own policies? Yeah, look at him. Look at Jesse Ventura now.

That governorship aged him. He looks like a Batman villain. Looks like Ben Franklin. He does look like Ben Franklin. He does look like a Batman. He should Photoshop a kite with a key attached to it. You know, I actually heard Jesse Vent a on Alex Jones not too long ago. What?

Yeah, seriously. Talking about how, he was actually talking about how the non-elevated conspiracy. And using his green beret knowledge to explain why the buildings were brought down by internal bombs. He's a demo expert though. He is. He has demo listens training. So, if you're going to listen to somebody, if you're going to listen to somebody,

listen to a demo expert, but don't listen to them on Alex Jones. Because you're kind of your credibility is instantly lost. And maybe not the demolition expert who also passed to the WWF as part of his career. Maybe, maybe not that guy. Maybe another demolition expert. He also passed through the government.

He's got inside knowledge. That's true. And he was born July 15th, 1951 in Minneapolis, Maybe another demolition. He also passed through the government. He's got inside knowledge. That's true. And he was born July 15th, 1951 in Minneapolis, Minnesota. So I take back anything I said about Mr. Honorable, just eventour. So, Al Franken and Jesse Ventura, the same age, you were both born in 51?

Pretty much. Conspiracy. Maybe the same person. Yeah, I bet that the same person. He had to just, the term limits was too much. He had to, who knew Stuart Smolley wasredator. Did he quit then just even toward you? You should not run for election. You know what he quit running as you voted out I Think he proved his point speaking of

Mechico Sicking We're improving your point. Speaking of weird governors in cold places Sarah Palin is You know off the political radar now as well. It's a refreshing to see a palin who finally knows when to pull out. Oh, wow. Was that prepared material? I saw that on Twitter a couple days ago.

I've been saving it. Thank God. The other thing is that you would you would think quitting in the middle of your governorship would be negative, but I read this morning that a new Gallup poll showed that she's more popular than ever. Well, her fans are idiots. Oh, I guess I shouldn't get that political. Her fans are interesting people. I just bizarre move, but very bizarre. I just don't know why she's on the radar. I just don't understand why we keep talking about her. Like, I don't know why she's on the news. I don't get it. It's like Sarah Palin and Michael Jackson. That's all the news is nowadays.

Someone actually on CNN yesterday said that the Michael Jackson Memorial was like the most significant event of our lifetime. Do you remember like 9-11 or any- How about the fucking wall coming down? I mean, Michael Jackson's death is the most significant event of our lifetime? His death? I mean, the memorial service. He is the awesome biggest event of our lifetime. His death, I mean, the memorial service. He is the awesome, biggest celebrity of all time. You know, I looked it up. He, you know, Thriller was the highest,

I guess, highest selling album of all time. Still is, right? Did you know it's more than doubled up on sales from number two selling album of all time? What's number two? Number two, I think is ACDC. Back in black? Back in black, yeah. Wow. Wow, I know. I think Thriller has,c back in black really in black. Yeah, wow

Wow, I think thriller has so if I remember I'm off the top of my head I think thriller sold like a hundred nine million copies and I think back in black is only so like 47 million god damn Well, I can imagine people all over the world buying thriller but not necessarily buying an a cdc album so 109 million copies nothing's even close to that well Transformers is about to hit 300 million or has hit now 300 million it's gonna hit today. Yeah, yeah, and it's done 600 million worldwide I mean there's the global markets enormous Although that doesn't always translate to because they often sell the foreign rights to movies before they even hit the box office

Kevin Smith always talked about how clerks too was profitable before it got to theaters because they had already sold the foreign rights. I mean, it's a cool kind of thing to say. It made this much amount of money, but the foreign market really, that's money already in the bank. So the studio doesn't get money from overseas box office revenues. They just get like a flat amount that they sell it to for, to a foreign distributor. It depends on the movie. It depends on the movie.

Yeah. I wouldn't be spies of a movie like Transformers. It's going to be an instant success. They wouldn't have a way to carve out some of that You know more than just a flat fee or be a huge fucking flat fee or maybe something on the back end or maybe they know It's gonna make money so they decide to keep it all to themselves and distribute it globally themselves Sure depends on the studio and depends on the movie. I mean the movies made $300 million in American two weeks It's about to destroy

Transformers one which was a you know in America in two weeks it's about to destroy transformers one which was a you know Incredible hit made 319 million. Do you see it? No, I haven't seen either of them I saw transformers one in the theater and I was so angry where I tried to watch transformers one I couldn't get through it, but yeah, it's pretty bad. I saw transformers too. So a lot like transformers one would you like? Yeah, I like them both. I mean, I just think like I didn't go to that for I'm like making fox We have a lot in common and I don't think that's an acting movie or anything. It's just I just don't like giant robots transform. I just don't like the art direction of the robots I just look like walking junkyards. Yeah, they look like and I can't make any sense of them when they're on the screen

I can't tell what the hell's happening. Yeah, I have trouble seeing It doesn't it doesn't I had the same problem with Grand Theft Auto 4. Like I couldn't see it for some reason. Really? Like I can't, like when I look at, when I, I just want to stop playing Grand Theft Auto 4, like I look at it and it's like I can't see the game. And it's the same way with Transformers.

I can't see what's happening when there's visual effects going on. Really? Yeah, it's weird. I don't know what's wrong with it. What was your problem with Grand Theft Auto 4? Like I can't focus on it. Like I look at the screen and it's not like

I can't see what's going on Maybe you okay could benefit from the Sylvan learning center I can help you with the focusing problems. No, it's it's really it's really bizarre I don't even know how to describe it like the screens too busy or something would you say too busy? No, not too busy. I like honestly. It's like it's like my eyesight's bad. It's like I can't focus on the screen They're like old people You can focus in wow though. Not anymore. No. Maybe they broke it down to like Nintendo 64 graphics. Then I think the deal is when you have a movie like Transformers 2

that's probably 60% CG shots versus just no CG in those shots. So much of the movie is done frame by frame that you don't have any perspective for when you're making the movie. Like I'm sure if you stopped a frame of say Optimus Prime transforming, you would look at that one frame and go, that looks awesome, that looks perfect. But then in motion, it looks like garbage, it's just like you can't, then transforming means nothing. They should do all those transformations off screen, because I don't understand it.

Just with the sound effect Exactly like it's implied transformation. There's a car Pan over the right pan back. It's a robot. We get it You know that being said that movie's gonna make $400 million in America see to me know that stuff bothers me at all I mean to me maybe the story not being good is what bothers me like the visual effects of them transforming You know whatever robots trans I mean, but like Bernie said Megan Foxes right that's not you know that's not a plot driven acting movie exactly so if you're gonna have just an eye candy movie which is awesome and I love but wouldn't make it make it make sense to your eyes but wouldn't it be nice if it were right I guess so it's like

it it's like those kind of movies that they're just an action delivery mechanism that's all they are so it doesn't really matter it's like how do we get to the next explosion, you know, it's like, you know, Optimus Prime is going to save, you know, these guys from this battle and oh, you also have to discover a stock pile of oil barrels. It's like, oh great, here we go. Here's the next one explosion coming, you know, it's Michael Bay. Awesome. I mean, there's a lot of stuff in that move. Art direction. Why do all the decepticons look exactly alike? Like Megron and Starscream who can even tell the difference between them and then later in the movie there's like 14 decepticons that just come down out of the sky as meteors basically and they all look the same too they're all silver

and I guess it's they're trying to make it easier for you to differentiate with these giant robots which ones are the bad guys and which one are the good guys. But... I guess it's like when they made the X-Men movie, they didn't want to make their outfits yellow and blue and, you know, ridiculous-looking. I guess that's the same reason they made all the transformers, like metallic colors instead of like the cartoon where they were like red and blue and very loud primary colors. I know.

Well, you could tell what they were when they were still a robot. Yeah. What is Megatron transformed to in the movie? Who knows? He's not a giant pistol right? Who knows? That's Starscream then uses to shoot. I don't know the Megatron transforms. Really? Yeah. And there's a lot of there's decepticons in the movie that are clearly automobiles too. There's no clear line. That's bizarre. One of the best things about Megan Fox saying that Transformers 2 is not an acting movie is that it has started a war of words between Michael Bay and Megan Fox. And getting a war of words with Michael Bay eventually he's just going to go over the top with it.

And he is now kind of threatening that he's got this audition tape of Megan Fox where basically when he auditioned her for Transformers all he did was have her come over to his house and watch his Ferrari in a bikini while he filmed it What tape supposedly exists. I've never heard this No one denies this no one denies all over the internet yesterday. Wow. Yeah, are there any explosions? In your pants it might go away house he probably has explosions like most people have sprinklers It doesn't what he waters as long with shrapnel exactly Flamethrower's pop up in the grass is getting high time to blow it up The male gets delivered with napalm Never see that that vios commercial that he did yeah, just tremendous. Yeah, that's a fucking awesome commercial

I love Michael Bay. I love him. I like the Michael Bay knockoffs like Simon West. I love all that stuff You know, I don't know you don't like Michael Bay I'm about 50 50 on he's got a 50 50 track record I think I I wanted to like Transformers and I couldn't but can you think of another Michael Bay movie you don't like I really wasn't an Armageddon fan okay bad boys two you didn't like that did you Jeff I liked I love Jeff and I both love I disagree anybody who says bad boys to his bad movie I like it's a two awesome movies in one scene where they will Smith and Mark Lawrence are driving down the highway running over corpses and popping off some people might say that's a little crude and over the top I say it was awesome. I need to well

I have to be motivated right as long as it's motivated and it's good and they were evil corpses filled with drugs You know they're just the police. They're just trying to stop that. That's right Make streets safer for Floridians. Yeah just trying to stop that. That's right. Make the streets safer for Floridians. Yeah, for their children, remember? Exactly, that was the thing. Yeah. So, hey, have you, has anyone played Battlefield 1943? Have you played the demo?

Yes, I've played the full game this morning. It actually, yeah. I have great, I have great memories of the guys in the Sovastall playing Battlefield 1942 together. And I remember it being, I have great, great memories of the guys in this office all playing Battlefield 1942 together and I remember it being like this amazingly fun awesome irreverent time In online multiplayer and then I played it this morning and the first thing I did was take 10 minutes to Get a game going and then I lagged out immediately and I said oh, I remember this This is actually what Battlefield 1942 was like. Yeah, it took me about an hour before I was able to start playing that I have yet to be able to get into a game every time

I go and try to join a game it says there are no games available. I feel like my soul has been crushed. I also tried this morning and could not get into a game and I Played Pagol. They really captured that yeah, I tried for about half an hour before we started recording this podcast this morning And I cannot get into a single fucking game you guys know there's like a little ticker at the bottom of the screen that says You know notice we're adding more servers to you know to serve you this game You may experience disconnection problems. How about you fucking get ready before the game launches? Yeah, no shit, right? Yeah, and then I like I showed you the video I recorded of when I did finally get into a game Me trying to get into a plane was like running five feet and then lagging back 10 feet running five feet I was getting further away from the plane by running towards it.

This is exactly my memories of the game. Yeah, exactly. Back at playing a 56 came out. I'm just as exactly what it was like. What the most frustrating part is, I didn't they, I think they pushed the release date of this game back. I think it was initially supposed to come out in early June. It's been pushed back a month and still seemingly not ready.

Did it tell you like how many people were online or? No, no, no. There's no people online because there's no games available. I wonder if these downloadable games, if we're going to run into a problem with the manufacturing process, does take a few weeks. So you finish the game, and then they immediately go to work essentially on the day's Euro patch.

That's going to come out when everyone loads the game. I wonder if the downloadable games, if there's a shorter period of time there, where you get it ready, and you just turn turn it in and it's downloadable, and maybe they're not as prepared as they could be. I don't know, it's an interesting idea. I'll admit ignorance here. I don't really understand it, but I know there is some kind of Microsoft standards process that these games go through, and I know for arcade, there have been many complaints that it takes much longer for arcade games than it does for retail games. Well this is an arcade game so you it would take longer that right? Is it though because it's not available in the arcade and it's only available to gold members. Yeah I couldn't find it in the arcade Bernice right when I

downloaded it. I had to search I thought it wasn't out yet and I had to search right until I found the like a new game grass. I just saw it on my dashboard so that's what I clicked on. That's game graph i just thought on my dashboard so that's what i a click dot that's where you find it to on the dashboard but it does not appear in xbox level k that's also six hundred megs yeah it'll be interesting to see where that thing shows up in the category

battlefield nineteen forty three lands also you know when i finally did get into the game i found something interesting there's only three classes in that game there's a scout infantryman and anti-infantry man or rifleman whatever the fuck it is no more medic Yeah, there was no medic and I remember they're being an engineer, too. Yeah, there was an engineer. Yeah. But one of the characters has a wrench as their melee weapon. So maybe that's like also that wrench serves some sort of. And you can fix tanks. I don't know. I didn't try. I wasn't able to really play.

Medics were terribly overpowered in that game. Yeah, it was awesome. I'll be excited if they remove that. But they're not there. That's your back. Because I tend to play more of these support characters in those FPS games because I just get aggravated playing the shooter, guys. We determined also there's something wrong with my Xbox live account. Yeah, we did, we did a like side by side comparisons with two TVs and two Xboxes with Joel on our chicken mouth account and you on your account and you your account is fucked up. My account is slower than other people's accounts. It's significant.

And also some people have trouble hearing you. Like Flash can never hear you. When you're playing at home, I know he has that problem. Both you and I were playing here in the office yesterday and he couldn't hear you, but he could hear me fine. Yeah, same connection. I get it's a lag thing. I get chat lag.

I get lag in the game. And my biggest thing that I was showing you guys yesterday is that my dashboard is Significantly lagged. It's like 30 seconds slower than the other dashboard that we were testing a little bit Yeah, we got into it was crazy We got into an argument here in the office a couple weeks ago about it You were complaining how slow the NXC is and I was saying that it wasn't slow and we both thought the other I'm sure each of us thought the other was an idiot But after seeing your dashboard I can totally see why you're upset now. And just to be clear, we're in the same office using the same Xbox on the same

connection and it doesn't matter where I use my Xbox live account, mine is slower. It's just slower. The dashboard, like for instance when you go into arcade and you go to buy a game, I have purchased a lot of arcade games, a lot of them. I've maybe purchased maybe a hundred to 120. So maybe like my DRM check file is that much bigger than everyone else's that it has to download. But when I go to say, for instance, Pagel, and I load up Pagel, when it determines whether it says, do you want to buy this game or download it again,

that process takes up to 30 seconds for me. And I will just sit there and watch my dashboard with this blinking Xbox icon, whereas Jeff, on the same connection right next to me We'll hit the button and he'll get right into it maybe two seconds. Yeah, maybe you have too much gamerscore Well, that can't get it. It's clogging the system up Jeff has more games played than me I don't know if you have more you have a higher game or score for sure But there's a lot of people have higher game or score than me. He probably has more achievements in me as well

The only thing that I can possibly figure out is how much stuff I have downloaded to marketplace. Yeah, I've bought maybe 50 arcade games, and I think you've got to be well above that. I, out of the first 100 arcade games that came out, I probably bought at least 85 of those, and that was a year and a half ago, and I buy arcade games all the time. Half of my 100% of games are arcade games,

and then I also download tons of content, like I make a lot of purchases in Xbox live marketplace Because I download other people's themes because I want to check it out versus ours gamer picks videos I download tons of stuff through marketplace You read movies and stuff too. Yeah, I read movies with my kids. Yeah, that's a source of your problem. That's really shitty It's almost like you're being punished or being a you know a big consumer. There's something there's definitely something weird I mean there's something weird about it. Have you ever tried to recover your game

or tag to a different box? No, I haven't tried to do that. And it's not like game or score either where you can delete entries. Like, I wish I could have through and say, I just wanted to delete these DRM entries. I can't even do that. Stop checking.

Like, I'm not going to play Ica-Gurah again ever. I promise. Or space giraffe. Space giraffe. Great. Now I want to play space giraffe. I'm okay with getting those things removed and so I can't ever download

them again I'm fine with that but it's odd it's odd and I also you had a launch I guess you had a launch account as well right yeah yeah yeah it's weird though when you and I were comparing our stats yesterday we also noticed something interesting about the way both of

us plays you don't play games for nearly as long as I do I don't yeah, but like what was your highest your most? Halo it was halo was like 130 days. I played halo, but your second one was like 30 days. Yes Left for dead and my top 10 were probably all over 50 Which number one halo? I think it's halo. Yeah, what's your number two? What's your number one halo? I think it's halo. Yeah, what's your number two? Um, Grant the photo? Maybe halo Grant the photo left for dead and oh crackdown was my number two Oh, I'm gonna shit out of crackdown and the way we find these stats are on 360 voice dot com. Yeah 360 voice dot com

And I'm sure fallout will be climbing for for you up that list Jeff. Yeah. I play games really slowly I have it. I can't sit down and play a game for more than like an hour and a half. For I just get antsy and I have to get up and go do something right now. It's a lot of fun. I finished point look out. And like these days, I'm just kind of wandering around trying to uncover all the maps.

I feel like I missed a lot of it. And I went and I saw the alien spaceship crash just so I could pick up the alien blaster in preparation for Mother Ship Zeta. Oh, I was going to ask you guys, you said that the alien pistol or whatever it is. Yeah. It has a limited ammo, like you only get a hundred shots. Right.

But I picked up alien power cells last night on the ground. What are those for? Where'd you pick those up? Where'd you find those? Those were at the train station where the, it's like the transition to your airfoo where the family lives, you know, they're like they're in that little inside the transition on the outside Like if you go out the door and there's just a bunch of empty train carts I found like 15 alien power cells. They look like batteries laying around where they were like a light blue color right? They're light blue or white. Yeah, that's them. That's them. So you can get more ammo for that gun

You can also get some in broken steel. Wow. There you go Yeah, there's another gun in broken steel. That's right. So it's pretty cool. Have all of you guys a thousand or the achievement points in that game? Well, follow up. Yeah.

It's 1450 actually. 1450. I'm a, well, I got like 200 points. I think I only have 790. Because I got fucked in a lot of the quests stuff. Like I missed a whole G&R storyline. Like Jeff was talking about and I couldn't go back. Then I fucked up in Aerofu and the game smart

Though it lets you go back like I was able to go back and do those get those achievements in G&R even though you know, not not smart enough. I don't have those No, I went back to Aerofu. They're still shooting at me. Oh, why are they shooting at for a shit? She didn't have any an Airfu for me. I told you talked about this on the podcast one We had an accident and I just get one of them a trap No, all this out anyway, and I went back because people kept saying that You let you can go back so I went back and they were still shooting at me So I got really pissed off so I killed everyone in arofo. Oh

Really amazing to me. I never do stuff like that. Yeah, I got really angry. I didn't do anything Fucking saint in that game so am I but fuck those guys now you killed the I was picking a witch. There's another there's another overseas being a saint There's something else that pissed me off. I was playing point look out and I fast traveled to and Bernie's probably the only one here Who's played point look out I fast traveled to the shop out there definitely the only person who's finished it? I finished point look at already Anyway, I fast traveled to the shop and as I as I spawned there, there were smugglers there Yeah, and there was so I was like oh shit I have to get in a fight right away

So I kill like three smugglers and after I killed them I looked around and the protectron that's normally there was dead like that drawn so I looked around some more and I saw panda was dead You know the shopkeeper so I went over and I looked at her and she had like I checked her body and she had like pandas locker key Yeah, and I was like oh well, you know, I'll take this she's dead She's not gonna need it so I walked over to her locker and I locked it with the key I lost karma She's fucking dead. I didn't kill her. You don't get to take her stuff. Why can't I take her stuff? She's not she doesn't need it Wow don't want this getting your Michael Jackson's house dirty. Oh, dude She did you take her do you take her boots off her dead corpse?

Really my boots were better so I didn't need hers. But why should I lose karma for that? That's stupid. Because she's not your stuff. You're stealing. She did. What if she had a son? What if it was her father? Like, socialists.

What if she had a will? What if she had a son that would be here in the Armageddon wasteland? Yeah. You're in an Armageddon wasteland and you come across someone who's dead. It doesn't mean- It doesn't mean- I'm sure you're taking stuff from dead people. It's like, I mean, if you're in a battle to have a human race survive and the dead body has like a canteen of water

And you haven't drank in a week because you're in a armageddon wasteland that's stealing Dude, it's just on the comic spectrum. What if she had a family Joel? What if she will that stuff to her kids? Right. What if it whatever son was gonna take over the shop? She didn't have she didn't have she alive. There was she was the only person in that town aside from the person who came on the boat with that you see no period All right, well we have to get to the bottom of this clearly Tell send your thoughts about this topic to Jeff at rooster teeth dot com. You clearly

That's J. O. E. L. at rooster teeth dot com Anybody want to hear Joel's list of games that he's played and what's the longest that he's played? Yeah, I do. I'm gonna guess it's it's got to be Halo 3. Left for dead is his longest. He played for 52 days Wow, guitar hero world tour, which doesn't surprise me at all 25 days Guitar hero 3 22 days and rock band 2 18 days So if you combine all of his music ones into one, that's what he plays more than anything else It says that Joel has only played 18 days of Halo 3. Something's wrong with that. Well, it could be just when you'd start attracting your account. Yeah.

You could chart here or two. You do play a lot of music games though. You really do. You played Viva Pignata for two days. Just two days. You know what? It's like you guys were like, Viva Pignata, it's a great game. It's a great game It's a great game. It's like, well, maybe I have to play it. And then like, you pulled out a spreadsheet. Jeff had a spread sheet. Color coded. Color coded with like numbers and animals and things. And this sat in the other day.

And a spreadsheet of a spreadsheet for a game. I couldn't stand the game. I just can't get a little cute, little demanding bastard creatures. Just want stuff from you. And just I couldn't handle it. I'm with you, Joel. I got the sucker to end up buying it and not a fan.

You guys should never have kids. You're not nurturing at a whole just as you've only played nine days of fallout three That's not correct that would be nine calendar days that you've played. Oh, oh, also that's not correct I had to look at your old game or tag not your new one. Yeah, see it's I'm sure that's all fucked up. Yeah Let's see what I've played for fallout three here is Is video game morality the same as real life morality? I think so. I could never play an evil character in a video game. Like, fable. I can't even either.

Not so old Republic. Any of those games where they let you choose. I mean, either. I never play it back then. I kinda hear you have a bunch of- Not evil. It's like that thing where- I don't wanna play the evil character, but I won't get to experience the full, you know,

fullness of the game if I don't play Even if they're like parts of the game, you don't want to experience the fullness of life in the same way This is it's funny because it's the same or I've never killed a man. I keep unplugging your laptop with my foot. Hey I'll agree I'll agree that you know It's taken that lady's stuff is not the worst thing in the world But you also admitted to killing everyone in error food because they pissed you off That was evil I could definitely lose karma for that that I agree with Yeah, well did you take their stuff after you could kill them? No, cuz they were that's like a starting area

They don't have anything I wanted if they had panda panda had like 900 taps fucking 20 stem packs Oh, I mean you guys so you guys are big achievement guys So it's like if there's an evil character you can't get all these achievements unless you play the evil character. What do you do? That's different. I mean, I could do that, but I'm just playing through a game. I can't do it. So in other words, if I'm the devil and I want to get your soul, basically, I just need to to get you to do...

Offer an incantible reward. Exactly. I just need to give you achievement points. You basically. Okay. Are you offering achievement points? What are we talking about? Let's start the bidding. I have played 14 days of fallout three dude you got 1450 points in the game and 14 days.

That's that that's totally bogus. 14 calendar. That's not correct. That's the thing. Well, you know, let's put it this way. If one of them is wrong, they're all relatively wrong in the same way. It's a good point. So it's a trend more than anything else.

So I played 118 days of Halo. That seems likely that I've loaded up 118 days. Yeah, I get to that now. It's been out for a year and a half. That seems likely to me. 39 days of left for dead. And then of course, 34 days of like, oh, Star Wars. But I mean, that makes sense to me too,

because the way you game, you sit down at like 9 a.m. on a Saturday and you'll play till midnight. Yeah, but if like, pack a lot of game play into those into that day. I do go in bursts man. I'm like a binge binge player in like in in 10 years. Will this thing have any value like the fact that you finished games for instance left for dead Halo 3? Will those be as important 10 years from now? Like if you had a hundred percent in say super Mario three. I'm sure 10 20 years from now it'll be super important to those of us who played those games. Yeah. The kids coming up we don't even exist yet it'll be like who cares

your old. But game score suffers from that thing that everything else in video games suffers from. Anybody who's beneath you in game or score is no good at video games. Everybody who's above you, everyone above you is a fucking loser. Right. Too much time to play games. Absolutely true. And you don't have any people never have any respect for the people above them, and they have no respect for the people below them. And then, but that's the thing, once you realize that that is how everybody views it,

it's kind of like, what am I doing? Right, it's true. Yeah. The correct Game of Score to have is 61,970. I can verify that. The only thing I care about is just 100% in games. That's all I care about. It's funny, you think they would have some sort of value

for like indicating, if you 100% a game that should give you something. Playstation has that. Well, Microsoft's just a, started that awardable thing too, which is kind of like that. Right? That'll be cool for avatars. Oh, what is that? That's, uh, you get like clothing and shit for your avatar. Yeah, like it's like achievements, but you get clothing for your avatars. Hmm. Which kind of cool? PlayStation has a trophy if you get all the other achievements in a

tro in a game. You get the platinum trophy. That's so you can compare your your platinum trophies. That is something I hope the 360 will take. you know what it would drive DLC because if you lost your platinum trophy or whatever your your platinum achievement for this game because DLC came out you'd be more likely to buy the DLC. Absolutely. You would already have the platinum trophy before DLC wouldn't you? Yeah, but then they can't take it away. Sure they can. Why? I know. Maybe maybe get all the DLC then you get a titanium one or something. You know, double platinum or something. Or maybe they have, you know, they don't, we're talking about trophies because that's just what exists now, but for achievements, they could have literally

a hundred percent zero score achievement for the retail game. And then also for all the DLC, you can get one as well. Yeah, that makes much more sense. That would be awesome just from the standpoint that I always want to know how many games of 100% and it's a pain in the ass to go through and count your games up. And it used to be easier because a thousand points meant you had finished completely a retail game and 1250 meant you had finished it with DLC. Now they're just they completely abandoned that for no reason. There's no there's no structure to that game rescore system anymore. Yeah, Fallout has what 14 15 now with the DLC that's out for it Well, I did a new structure is that you can have it's a thousand points for retail game and you can have up to 17 50

Through DLC, okay, that's the structure. So then Fallout has one more DLC after mothership Zadol after it If they want to attach achievements to DLC. I mean DLC doesn't have to have achievements, right? It does for me to play seems to be a big deal. I also think there needs to be more structure for what percentage of points go for single player, what percentage of points go for multiplayer. Yeah, every game seems to be like, there's like a huge difference. Yeah. Yeah. It's mind boggling. And it's also very annoying when a developer is trying to milk the system by putting in these ridiculously long multiplayer Achievements getting trying to force people to play their game when we're just not gonna. Yeah, we're just really I have really hate that

Like a hundred thousand kills in gears two. Well, that that's cross everything But yeah, I mean I kind of like the gears one because it also counts single player co-op as well. That helps too But you get like 2000 kills for a campaign of gears two. You know, I mean, how he kills you is getting a multiplayer matching gears. I never played gears two, but gears one, it was, you get four kills in a 20 minute match.

There are four kills and you're doing awesome. Yeah, at least I was, you know. It's a totally different game. A lot of the, a lot of gears, one of those gears are just that they're watching other people play because you only had one life per round. Right, right. So, not so much the case in gear two, you can respond most game types in gears two. A lot of gears one was going to be just there watching other people play because you only had one life per round right right so Not so much the case in gear stick you can respond most game types in gears to yeah, I really need to play that game

Do you have that game? Yeah, I love it. Are you done with it? No, no, I'm play I play gears It's gears two multiplayer. I play a lot. I'm making deal. I got gears to right now and play I haven't loaded it I will play co-op with you. Okay, great. I'll go get it tonight See now we're in that place to let's go into a totally different topic where you can talk about the dead space numbers. But I'm at that point where I was with movies a couple of years ago where I got so behind on movies that Netflix became exceptionally valuable to me because I was so far behind I was like I had new release movies on DVD all the time. That's why I'm with Gamefly now. I'm so behind on games that Gamefly can actually be used to play good games. Whereas if you're up on all

your gaming, you might as well just cancel your Gameplay account because everything is very long-waiting. Yeah, you're gonna be waiting the rest of your life to get mad and... Right, yeah. And now I'm at the point where it's like, here's a war two, got it one day, you know, no problems. Fallout three, got it, no problems. Although I went out and bought Fallout three after I rented it one day, you know no problems fall out three got it no problems Although I went out and bought fall out three after I rented it good good support them. I yeah, absolutely absolutely I got more than $60 for the value out of the game. Yeah, I played it for 14 days right now I'm really ready to get caught up on on 360 games and other games just because I'm I really need this break from while And I haven't played probably in a month and a half

I'm enjoying it and I got to play a bunch of other stuff We know at some point Gus is gonna get bitten by the achievement bug I don't know at what point it's gonna happen I meant to bring this up a little earlier. I don't know how much you know about achievements in wow But wow has achievements has some achievements like I wish they could incorporate a way to do this in the 360 where Wow has achievements you can get for being the server first to do stuff and the world first to do stuff. So if like you're the first person in the world to get to like level 80, you get a special achievement.

I don't like that. That is. Or like on your server or whatever. Right. I don't like that. It's really cool. I don't like the idea that there's an achievement out there that not everyone can get.

Yeah. It's just bought it. I don't know. I mean, it's okay for wow, but I don't think that would work on the 360. Like the worst achievement in the history of the 360 is to be the number one player in the world on fucking raw. Those are like in a separate category though. They call those feats of strength. It's like no no gamers core associated. Sure. Sure. You don't know what they are necessarily. That would be cool. That's different. That would be cool. But I one thing I don't like about achievements is That would be cool. That's different. That would be cool. But I one thing I don't like about achievements is The game or score means nothing to me at all. It means absolutely zero to me like yesterday I got achievement for getting seven experience points on the seventh day of the month in Halo 3

It was zero game or score. I don't care Just the fact that I don't have to look at 59 of 61 achievements. That's that's to me. That's what motivates me You know is that I've done a hundred percent of what the developer says. This is what our game's about. This is what we want you to do in this game. And so, I mean, granted that one's a little bit self-serving with the seventh of the month thing, but, you know, it's, I like to fill in the grey boxes. That's what I like to do. But you're a collector. It must be one of this. Yeah, that's why you like games like Grand Theft Auto. You're a collector explorer. Godfather too, that kind of stuff. Yeah, well exploring is really just a different kind of collecting right collecting all the pieces of the map Yeah, exactly right. That's what I didn't wow and

That's what I did it followed three had to achievements associated with collecting points on the map It's awesome. You had to collect a hundred points in the map right is that the achievement? Which is nowhere near all the points in the map that you go everywhere on the map? No, I don't think I have I have I have places where they're marked for some reason, but I haven't been there. I have a little line to them. I think at a certain level, you unlock all the places on the map, and you can see them.

I think it's at level 20 or 22. But it's cool. I like it, because in wow and fall out three, these are all different places. I mean, this is an artistic achievement to see these things, especially, wow, they're are all different places. I mean, this is an artistic achievement to see these things. Especially, wow, the different colors, you know, the landscapes and the environments. Very cool. You know, it's funny for me because even to some extent, like, sporting games would have

that sort of meaning. Like, if you're really into baseball and it was like when they started bringing the games out with the stadiums or the actual stadiums, it was like, God, this is great. So awesome. I just want to love NCAA football. Yeah. The different college stadiums. All the character, God, this is great. It's so awesome. I try to love NCAA football. Yeah, different college stadiums. All the character and the other thing. And the thing that frustrates me still to the stage is some extent. It's like, if you go all the way and you win everything,

like you go, you win the Super Bowl or whatever, I still am not quite sure. And I guess it's been a year or two since I played one. Like if you go to the World Series or whatever and you win, how come it doesn't, like, why don't they put the extra bells and whistles into that environment just for that, like, to have the pay off at the end where there's different things or the stadium is dressed differently or, and they don't seem to have that.

It's like you win the whole. It might be just like an issue where they ship the game, like, like, say, baseball, for example, they ship the game before the world series happened and they don't know how they're going to dress the stadium so they don't want to address it incorrectly. It might be something dumb like that. Maybe that kind of thing will happen now though. Like we just had with a, was it March Madness that had the DLC you could download the March Madness DLC

download pack where you could play the actual tournament? Oh yeah. Maybe like maybe with like maybe with MLB 2K 9 when the World Series happens, they'll release like a thousand point down the pack. Did that day off for them that March Band is down level? I don't know. I never saw any numbers on it. I never saw any. I didn't either. But I don't hang out with a lot of basketball game players. So... Basketball sports games in general are weird because it's based on this dynamic real world thing. And

it really hasn't affected them very much, but it's one of those games that the moment you bite it's immediately inaccurate and out of date. Well, which is great why they have, you know, Xbox Live and the downloadables and all that stuff now because it's like immediately you can update the roster. Well, yeah, like what it is a day after, right? It is combined on my play. EA is combated that with that DNA system they have where you like you pay.

I don't know if you pay for it or not, but like I know the latest NBA game had real world stats updating and like if a player's hurt in on the rockets, your players hurt on the rockets. If you sign up for it, or if you're playing if the player in the real world is on a hot street, yeah, stats go up a little. Absolutely. Yeah. But that's so weird to me too, because you're not playing at the same pace as the regular season. Right. Like, your guy can go out in the playoffs. Yeah. Which is a lot different if he goes out in the real world during the regular season, or if they sit him on the bench to get him ready

for the playoffs, you're in the playoffs in your game. And suddenly, you can't play this guy because he's just out. That's true. And I have to deal with a lot too because mostly I play NCAA games because I like college sports in real life more than I like professional sports. And that's a big pain in the ass because their students, they can't have their real names in the game for Johnson failed math. He's not going to be joining you this weekend. Well, no, I'm going to be probation. I had to go to this whole thing right where you can't even download the names of the players

For instance, say major apple white was on the quarterback of the Texans or Colt McCoy was the quarterback of the Texas longhorns I said the Texans by the way And so Colt McCoy they just have his number in there. They don't have his name. However It was statistics are very similar and he looks like him and everything and it looks like the dude He's got the right you know statue would normally have if if if was a pro game. And if you add his first and last name in the announcers know those names. They will say, McCoy, you know, McCoy jobs, jobs, jobs back to pass his hit or whatever. So it's kind of interesting. It's like, they're just like this is the one thing they didn't do to get around all the stuff. Right, exactly. So it's kind of a pain. And it used to be on the 360, you could download saves. If you had one of those little devices from Best Buy, where you could just plug it in and get them.

But they don't really have on the 360. And probably if you used it, you would invalidate your achievements and everything else as well. Hey, speaking of NCAA, that comes out next week, right? I don't know. It's off my radar. I think it does. I really did. I think it played enough of those games

I'm kind of I'm kind of footballed out after the last like four years For me, it's like one of those it's a cycle where it's like I'll you know, I'll play you know 2005 and I'm not gonna play again till like 2011 or whatever, but I'll eventually come back to it the I'm actually kind of excited about this year's Madden game though looks really good. It does it looks like I mean every year is supposed to be to the Inthigree better, but this year actually looks yeah it looks like Nificantly but it really did a lot of work on the engine looks really really good. Yeah, I might pick it up this year It's like if you see the game out of the corner of your eye Is that a real game and you've really good through that process is that is that an actual photo from a game or it's amazing You know, I would still like to throw this out there where we take a baseball

game. If there is a good one, they ever make another good baseball game for that three six, where we have another in office league, which we tried before. And then what it's like, every one of the like the theory of it is great. And every time there's this weird wrinkle in every baseball game, it's the same, effing thing every time where it's like someone's gonna go into the seventh or eighth inning with a lead and then the computer all of a sudden is gonna start bulking up the stacks of the guy who's behind every time that's what you think happens yeah no I could see that happening with like a AI opponent every time but if you're playing a human it shouldn't do that I was the

pattern I thought well I'm sorry you blow it late in the game every time. Joel's got no No matter I can I stand on the I think Joel plays Mario baseball Guitar hero baseball I think it's true. I think it's absolutely true. Can you try to understand either in baseball games? Why do you keep Fucking with the batting system and the fielding system? It's real simple. We want to hit a button to hit the ball. That's it. Maybe a for a regular swing b for a power swing When you feel the ball right its first base up is second base left is third base down his home

That's it. It's easy. Just don't don't add in the left trigger for a power throw With like a half press, you know What was the one baseball game ahead where you pull the trigger and then let go to swing. Oh, wasn't that a dream chance. No, wasn't it 2k 7? Yeah, it was one of those games. What a dumb ass mechanic. Their idea was you pull back for your back swing, you pull the trigger and then you release for the swing. You were showing us videos the other day. All those 2k baseball. Oh my god. Totally astray. The best one's where the dude comes home, steps on the plate,

then falls through the earth. It's like, how does that happen? I mean, haven't you guys been using this engine for 10 years now? If you look at what's going on? If you look on YouTube and you just look at NLB 2K9, you'll find endless videos of people calling it the worst game ever and just how horrible this thing is which is a

Disappointment so we played our our Interoffice League we played like on 2k 6 or 2k 7 and that was a great game. Oh, it's fantastic. Yeah, it was really great Remember build the web page for you really gonna get up here like the newsletter and everything. Yeah incredible Yeah, it's very very cool to me the best part of those baseball games is simply like building the team Like going through the like building the team, like going through the draft, building a team, then it's like, once I have my team, it's like, all right, I'm done.

I'll be honest, I don't know enough about baseball to do those drafts. Yeah, we just played, you know, real teams. It also praised on my fear of fantasy, whatever fantasy baseball or fantasy football, I can't fucking stand that stuff. I hate it. I hate it. It's, there's enough distraction as it is in sports today.

Without it's wanting one dude to catch the ball in the, you know, in the fourth quarter. It's like, I just want to watch this team beat this team. It's a byproduct of like needing time to be eaten. It's like, American needs like a thing, like some sort vehicle to just like eat time when you're at the office And that's what it is. I don't even like I don't like gambling on sports because I don't like spreads I I hate that yeah, yeah, oh gotta win but by four points exactly we didn't cover the spread or you know Got to win by 17 and a half points all I know is that I love sports

I also love gambling now I've never Bet on sports But I can only imagine that that would be opening Pandora's box. It's fun for me that I mean So you've done it right I used to gamble on the most exciting Thing to watch ever it well it definitely ratchets up the stakes But at the same time it ruins the experience, you know How do you can't go back? You can't go back on Because you can't go back. Also how do you fucking, how do you honestly pick? How do you put a hundred dollars down on what round the motherfucker is going to get knocked

out and it's impossible. It just, it makes it far too stressful. I was in Vegas like three years ago and it was like, oh, you tease playing rice and the spread was like, you know, it was like 14 points. It was like, I should go downstairs like 14 points. It was like I Should go downstairs and bet five thousand dollars on this. I should bet five thousand. I was like I Jesus, what such a no-brainer. I mean you team this is rice 14 point spread and sure enough They won they won like set it was 77 to like 14. I remember that it was like well

Yeah, I remember it's like I would embed on it I would if you did if I wouldn't have been on it even if the spread was zero just because it's a rival. It's an old rival those things you lose rice keep close once in 97 it was a close game Yeah, they pull out that option offense You don't know which way it's going the dual option What was rice run can we left can we right the wishbone? That rice is like the only huddle were like someone has engineered they have a compass and you know The dual option. What is rice run? Could be left. Could be right. You don't know. The wishbone. The rice is like the only huddle where like someone has engineered.

They have a compass and you know, there's a dude measuring wind speed in the huddle. I was watching a Texas rice game once on TV and like the announcer, it was on ABC I think and the announcers were talking about you know the rice quarterback or something. They're like oh you know so so, senior from Houston, Texas, his major is computational and applied mathematics. And there was a pause and the color guy goes, what do you think that is? Really, I go, I don't know, probably building bridges

or something. That's awesome. You know there's the one dude who's there just on athletic scholarship. That's the older reason he's there at Rice. And he's like, look guys, I don't know what a friction coefficient is, but can we just run a post pattern? This is this time of school just a post pattern throw it to me. That's it. I'll catch the goddamn ball They would love it if they could get someone who could throw a ball down there

Hey, Gus if you have to if you if you watch the UT versus rice who do you vote for who you vote for? I cheer for rice. Why would you cheer for UT? No, cuz he lives in Austin. Like a mile from the football stadium. They had a fantastic baseball team a couple of years ago. Yeah, they wanted all a few years ago. They normally have a very solid baseball team. Who knows why the fuck that is, but they can get their football

act together ever. Well, I don't know, you know, I mean, football, you know, you have to be a mutant. I guess. I guess. For the most people who even here is talking about this, aren't going to know what rice is. I mean, does anyone outside of Texas really know rice university? It's a small university in Houston.

It's like, I think it has, when I went there, was 2100 undergrads. So it's like, you know, the size of an incoming class at UT, divided by five. It's a math nerd school, right? Exactly. They make a very big deal by being a very prestigious engineering mathematics school in Texas. Well, they say that the Ivy League of the South

isn't that. They call Harvard the rice of the North. I don't know if you've ever heard that. I don't think I have heard that. I don't think I have. I've just made a bumper sticker. The game that we played, by by the way was baseball 2K7 because I have 12 days logged in MLB 2K7.

I bet Matt has zero. All right, but he does too. Hey, I wonder if we would back and play MLB 2K7. I wonder if we would still have all those features. Those online features are still enabled. I think so. I didn't change developers. I don't know, but I think that they're- It's 2K sports still, right? Yeah, it is 2K sports still. But I think so. I didn't change developers. I don't know, but I think that they're...

It's 2K sports still, right? Yeah, it is 2K sports still, but I think they're required to maintain the servers as long as the console is still current generation. This is Microsoft. That's true. I don't think that's true. Did it be a 2K6?

And you're gonna be able to deal about that banding? They were gonna shut down that and like Tigerwood servers and they never did. I think they're all still up. Really? I'm pretty sure. Hmm. What are you saying? You're saying we should play baseball tournament?

I, I, I would like to. I mean, we have the tournament functionality on the website as well. We can just have a straight up tournament. We're doing a fancy double A comes out next week which is having an NCAA tournament. All right, I'll do that. I can get my fucking ass kicked.

NCAA football, I can't play with the football multiplier. I don't think it's the same experience at all. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't think I've ever played football multiplayer. I just do you play against us though We you can't you can't get a quit game on Xbox live and not get fucking the mall which played last week And it's very well those people who play those people who play Madden and NCAA football online all the time they're playing a different game than I'm playing. Yeah, oh yeah They they I throw a ball instantly intercepted. They know what it is.

It doesn't matter what I do. They know every nuance. There's a crazy level of addiction to that. Like, Jason's brother Nick, who we're all friends with, he still every day I see him playing like Madden 08 was the last one. Oh, nine. Every single day against been out of year. And he still plays.

And I gave him a football 30, 40 minutes for one game. And he's online playing every day I wish I had something like that in my life kind of focus. Yeah Stop it pick up pick up fallout Joel pick it up. Yeah, dude seriously. I guess so I'm so I mean Battlefield was gonna be my new thing and it sounds like that's I think they're just having launch But they'll get a straightened out. It'll be awesome The eventually I did get to play and it was a fucking blast. I mean, it was great.

It was just like I remember that being. It's gonna be terrible. I'm gonna have to spend the rest of the day putting the podcast together and not play 9-43. It's the loading screens and be up on the TV right next to me on my desk. All right. Final thoughts. Anybody?

Yeah, get Battlefield N243. We will have a tournament for it soon. We also have a new Gripball gamer picks up on Xbox Live. For some reason you can find them in the Red vs Blue Season 3 folder on Marketplace. Not sure why. We're not sure why at all. Also, look for more new products to come out in our online store next Monday, hopefully. Hey, are those speaking of new products in the online store?

Are we going to have those at Comic Con? What, Griffball gamer picks? No, new products at the store. Those are print on the man products. Oh, I think yeah We're gonna have something it's like a unique thing aren't we? I'll post a picture of it, but I have a grip ball sticker one of our laptop skins And I can post a picture of that too. That's a good idea though. We could get them to run a bunch We could take them up there. All right. Yeah cool All right, well, cool. Um, all right. Well, thanks for listening, everybody. Talk to everybody. Bye, everybody.

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