Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #18

Episode Date: August 12, 2009

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie comes the new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-oxane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnett, and Thomas Hayden Church.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Twisted metal, now only on peacock Because uh because guss isn't here. We should do the shoddiest the shoddiest job as well Because guss isn't here. We don't know how to do it and then when you go back in it Just have like much of heart at it. It's just like right No, it'll make him feel so important Okay, do you guys want me to put this on and then we'll start the podcast? I guess we should just like, right? It'll make him feel so important. Okay, do you guys want me to play this song? And then we'll start the podcast. I guess we should hear this all right. We got our friends all around as Jojo Bernie and Gus. They make up Rooster Teeth and now they're on drunk tank. Gus is a nerd. Joel is kind of dumb. Jeff is an alcoholic and Bernie likes him. So settle all around cake receipts because it's the drunk tank podcast word man it's good
Starting point is 00:01:28 to see Eminem getting some work. Everything was kind of funny and cool and then he's like Jeff and alcoholic. I'm so offended. Oh God. Good Lord. Okay well that was a fantastic intro to this podcast. Who was that by that was by Teresa Bach didn't sound like Teresa Bach. I don't know that's what maybe that's just what he called his joint hip-hop project things. I don't know. Maybe uh maybe that's his stage name. At this point I'm prepared to make a little wrap out a lot Teresa. See how he see how you like it. Okay, so uh the podcast has been a little schizophrenits of Frenic lately. It seems to have a very revolving cast of characters as we go in and out of town for summer work.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Today we have me Jeff, me Gavin, and me Joel, and there you go. I like to, I like fire. I want to apologize for my husky voice. I've got a bit of a code. You have a lot of other things to apologize for. Like what? Just, I have a list. Well, that's number 22.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Apologize for the podcast. May I follow my shoes yesterday? I probably did. So they were from 1997. Which is pretty bad. Well, I may follow his running shoes. You might as well say someone's dressed like MC Hammer. Oh, you were wearing parachute pants.
Starting point is 00:02:47 That's true. I think it was a valid criticism. And I did do the dance thing, so. And you do have a line shaved in your eyebrows? That's true. Did they do that in England back in the 90s, Gav, did they shave lines in the eyebrows? I think they're still doing it, right?
Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah, I still see people with stripy eyebrows. No, you don't, really? Yeah. And those are called chabs, or townies. Yeah, you could all right cool You're good at the Britlingo. It's only taken me like three years of knowing you to start Yeah, so I'm gonna start sleeping in well, what are you gonna do Bob's your uncle, right? Ah, there you go Okay, anyway, so what do you kids want to talk about today?
Starting point is 00:03:21 Okay, good so many things Talk about how do I pick? Well, the NXT update came out yesterday. I like to talk about your reaction to that video that we watched. We watched a video demonstrating the NXT and they showed the number you get on the top of your game card. And you pause the video right then and you're like, I need to find out how many numbers I have. How many years I have on my game card. Yes, I did. You're so excited. You pause the video to find out.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Moving along to the next subject. Do you wanna talk about how many years you've read, tough on the number? How big my number is? I don't know what's wrong with that thing. There's obviously some sort of mistake because it says I've only been a member of Xbox Live for three years, which is an egregious error.
Starting point is 00:04:01 It's slanderous. It is. It's defamation. This is the thing, that everything that comes out with Xbox Live and any sort of numbers thing and every number thing about Xbox Live that we've ever talked about from any websites like, oh this website, you know, it's this and it's this and it's this and it's this and it's like either a week or two weeks later It was like, oh, but it doesn't it doesn't work. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for because it says according to Xbox whoever they are. According to Microsoft, I've only been a member of Xbox Live for three years. Yet Gavin has been a member for four years. It's gonna be a thing like,
Starting point is 00:04:29 well, you see, if you played on Thursdays, Thursdays don't count for some reason. Yeah, that's what I think. And I think I let my Xbox Live ownership live. No, no, I know exactly what it is. You said you got Xbox Live the day it came out. Oh, who can remember? With your 360.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Who can remember? Xbox Live came out way before the 360 came out. So you've only had it for three years. You've only had it since the 360. I don't think that's true. Xbox Live came out with Halo 2, right? I think it was the first- It came out before Halo 2.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, did it? I think I've had Xbox Live longer than the 360. And I was looking through my list to everyone who's updated to the NXC and the person with the highest number is Gus, and he's got a six. Yeah, he's got a six. He's got a six. He's the lowest gamer score. Yeah, he he's got a six. Yeah, he's got a six. He's got his lowest spamer score.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah, he does. I guess Gus was like a pre-tester. No, I don't think so. No, come on. Gus, how would he get that? I don't know. Well, I know a lot of people who had it before it was out. Well, oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:05:18 You brag about it. Did you have a besides? No, I didn't. I've only got a number four. Yeah. Well, I'm telling you that I've had Xbox Live longer than three years. I can't I've only got a number four. Yeah, well, I'm telling you that I've had Xbox live longer than three years I can't remember when I I'm not a fucking memory scientist who can go back in time and figure shit out. I don't know how long it looks
Starting point is 00:05:33 How long is a 360-bit out 360-bit out for like? I don't know three years Kind of four years. God, that's weird. It's like it's been longer than that. Yeah, it does because Halo's been out two years now Halo three. Yeah, I can't believe it's been that long I can't believe I either speaking a halo two three speaking a little three Gavin I did something spectacular last night with the help of Ben and Andrew Panton We did the vidmaster annual challenge Which had to be probably the most fun I've ever had playing a video game. It was fun
Starting point is 00:06:01 I'm I've been wanting to that team for a year because i cut together a video of jack doing it about a year ago how many times the jack died in that video and i made fun of jack dying he died like hundreds of times but i looked at our stats after two that this is another one that was god dang anomalies where it's like i've done it i did it with andra panton a long time ago or i completed it didn't get the achievement let's do it again didn't get the achievement For those who don't know the achievement is the hardest difficulty legendary full player cop with the iron skull on which makes it even harder because when one of you dies you all have to restart the checkpoint.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I remember, yeah go ahead. You have to do the final run in ghosts instead of a hog. It's it's tremendously difficult and fun. I have a great idea instead of like coming up with updates It have more numbers and this that more website. How about like making the achievements work? I Don't know we'll go that she my last night You're like no, no, but it happens in other games something happens you get a glitch and then it's like whoa you can't get achievement ever That's never happened to me. It's more happened or anyone. I know for someone Never have you or anyone. Oh, okay. I'm the only person that that's never happened to me it's more happened to anyone I know for some reason I have you or anyone okay I'm the only person that that's happened
Starting point is 00:07:09 you're like you're like you're like technology cryptonite your computers don't work I don't get your achievements I think you'll million dollars I just stories are gonna come out after this people are gonna be like oh I did this and I'll I guarantee you I'm sorry but I've never had an achievement not work you you get the opposite you get glitches in achievements the work in your favor I guarantee you. I'm sorry, but I've never had an achievement not work. You get glitches in achievements, the work in your favor. Like when we were playing Horde mode, we were on level 6, and it was like progress 17 of 50. You know what? I figured that out though.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I was out because you done levels for the rest. It was because I'd done later levels by joining a game. Although I've had it. I remember in Dead Rising, there's an achievement for spending 24 hours outside. I got that while I was inside. I was just walking around Anyway, I died 124 times. Let's look at the stats. I got them right here now We all died all four of us. We died over a hundred times each wow But considering the Andrew panton is the best video game player. I know
Starting point is 00:08:02 No offense knuckles The best video game player I know No offense knuckles That's an angry Canadian Negan neck. We're sorry. They're all angry Canadian. Oh, it's andry Canadian too. Yeah, it was in Vancouver Why are all the best gamers gamers in Canada? I don't know unless we something because they have loose watch because we don't know anyone from South Korea Well, let's let's have a runner this fueled by maple Jeff died 124 times bend died 120 times I died 115 and Andrew died 105 so I died 19 more times, Ben died 120 times, I died 115 and Andrew died 105. So I died 19 more times in Andrew Pantin.
Starting point is 00:08:28 That's a fucking win in my book. Do you want to explain what caused me to die? You can make the grenade zone. I'll tell you, yeah, there's a shortcut you can take at the beginning of the map when you start to infiltrate the base, you know, before you get to get sergeant Johnson on the hill and you try to get them guilty spark or whatever to open the door, right? Is that right? I think you should summarize the whole of Halo 3.
Starting point is 00:08:49 The whole of Halo 3? There's a monster. I don't know. And so there's a grenade jump you can do to get up on the like the big like the nose, like the big honky nose of the building. And then you can run over and then hide behind Sergeant Johnson and Cowar while he kills everybody for you and then you go in. It's actually about 45
Starting point is 00:09:05 minutes probably and you got a grenade jump up. No, it's in the game. It's a feature. And I I must have out of my hundred and twenty-four deaths. I probably Johnson is not always gonna be there. I don't know. I probably died 80 times there. After that though, I was fucking golden. I was way better than the rest of you guys on the goes. Way better. It took us one hour, 30 minutes and 20 seconds, 90 minutes. That's a football game right there. Is it a football game? Soccer game? Yeah. So Joel, how's the full out tree in you? The giant crab people keep killing me. Did you do what Jeff said? I did. Yeah, it was easy. And yeah, now it's a totally different game. Yep now you can sleep now
Starting point is 00:09:46 I can sleep So much more I can't believe I got sucked into this game. Oh, dude. It's a fantastic game It's just like that. It's just like it appeals guys just like the acquisition of stuff in a world We have to fight people you're out and fight people you get stuff. Oh, here's some stuff. Oh wait a minute I found some stuff. It's higher level stuff. That's better. I'm gonna get that stuff. Yeah, it's kind of going the mall. Yeah, essentially. Yeah, I haven't played Fallout by played Oblivion and I always just get really mad when I had to walk slow because I was holding too much stuff. You get over-encoming. Like I would just take everything just hit the button and just take all, and then I'd just be I would ring-cub it.
Starting point is 00:10:25 That has- That hasn't really been an issue for me in Fallout. You just kind of manage your stuff, you know? Don't pick up shit that's not worth anything. Don't pick up like empty bottles and stuff like that. Yeah, and also the thing that drives me crazy, right, is that you know that you can, like, you build the guns or whatever, right? Yeah. I guess you need certain equipment. I haven't gotten that far yet, so I don't know anything
Starting point is 00:10:40 about it, but all I know is like, oh look, surgical tubing. I may never see this again. I better take it. Yeah. It's surgical tubing's pretty. I don't know anything about it, but all I know is like oh look surgical tubing I may never see this again. I better take it. Yeah, surgical tubing's pretty I don't know pretty look at holy car This is gonna be like make the ultimate weapon a lot of things. He's gonna be important later Do you know that you can repair your guns? Yes, okay, so you can if you pick up like nine guns You can consolidate them down to like two guns. Oh, I didn't know you can consolidate them Yeah, what you do is like you like say you have like four like 10 millimeter pistols Right, you can and you start to get over and covered just take one and hit repair And it's like do you want to use the parts from this one to fix the other one and then suddenly you have one that's better than all for oh
Starting point is 00:11:14 Jesus this is better and better. Yeah, that's gonna help you a lot. Oh my god. Also, you know about fast travel, right? Yes, well, I only unlocked one thing so far faster I'm very new with the game. But that makes a big difference too, because then when you get over in Cumber, you can just fast travel back to Megatun, drop your shit off, sell it or whatever, put it in your wall locker, fast travel back to where you were, fucking Dunzo. It's, you know, I, just talking about the game just makes me want to go and play it more and more and more. It just, when, when Gavin got here, I, Gavin
Starting point is 00:11:42 been got here, it was all I did day or night, you know, and it's all I thought about. And then now I feel guilty playing a single player video game when those guys run the house. So we've been playing a lot of gears or and Halo and stuff, but I can't wait for them to leave so that I can start playing Fallout again. Like, whatever day it is you leave will be the best day of my life because I can start playing again. I'm so excited. I got so mad last night because we were playing with Andrew. We asked him, we invited him to play Halo, and he was playing Fallout. The day before he was level 10, yesterday he was level 25. That's like 90 hours of gameplay in a day to get there.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I don't know how we did it. I don't know. I don't know the thing about the game, but I noticed like Andrew Pant was on like last night or whatever I was playing. It's like, and he was playing Fallout 3 and he's like, uh, level 25, whatever. And it's like, well, clearly I know now, like level 25, whatever is total like, Oh, it's ridiculous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I'm told ridiculous. I mean, to put it in a perspective, I essentially had like the same conversation with him that I'm having with you. Like, uh, you can, you know, just on the bomb and megaton. Here's some easy little tips. And then 24 hours later, he was on the last DLC. I'm sorry. I'm not fucked at you. Something bitch. So who told you this handy information? Easy little tips and then 24 hours later he was on the last DLC
Starting point is 00:12:49 So who told you all this handy information? I just have to find out I learned some of it from watching Gus and Bernie play It's a very word of mouth game isn't it like you don't learn everything you need to know I feel like I'm really in the sweet spot because like for me. It's like okay I have a question and I know what's going on. Oh, I can just go to the cheap and hunter guy Yeah, you sure you can come to me or you can talk to Finch Lynch Dude that didn't he's played through the game three times all the way through so he knows Actually, he was a source of my problem because I remember him talking about saying oh I nuke to town And for some reason that stuck in my brain the term I nuke to town then when I was playing the game
Starting point is 00:13:18 There was the nuke in the middle. It was like oh, well, I don't want to nuke the town So and that's what totally kept away from it. What's the benefits of Nuking Megaton? I think there are benefits, but I don't want to nuke the town so and that's what totally gets away from it. What's the benefits of Nuking Megaton? I think there are benefits, but I don't know what they are. I mean, it's if you want to roll evil, right? But I don't you have to play through three times to get certain achievements like with different karma levels and stuff in theory Yes, or you could I mean what a lot of people do I haven't done this But what a lot of people do is like I think it's like level eight level I'm gonna say 18 and level 24 or some shit like that. You already have to get to that point in the game as good, neutral and evil, right? Karma. And you can just like, right, at level
Starting point is 00:13:54 seven, play through the game as good or neutral, right at level seven, save, do a bunch of good stuff, get good level, revert to your save, go through his neutral, revert to your save, kill a couple dudes, go through his evil. Yeah, so why didn't you search cheating? Yeah, I don't know I just I Don't I don't really view that as cheating cheating so much But I just was having so much fun playing the game that I really I'm embarrassed to say this Well, I wasn't thinking about it. You're playing a game. It's good and you ignore the achievement
Starting point is 00:14:21 I was that's the sign of a successful game now. No, I think it might Yeah, yeah, if you have the window dressing of a game We're into it to the point where other stuff means more to you than the achievements What are what are higher compliments you have? I was having so much fun with the story and the gameplay that I Achievements I felt like they were slowing me down So I was like I'll go back this game so good I'll go back and play it all the way through again and worry about it Yeah, but that's you do realize you would ever do that right? I don't know
Starting point is 00:14:43 I don't know man All I know is that these guys started playing the game a long time ago. Gus isn't even in the room And we've had complaints about talking about this game too much on podcast and here we are He's not even in the room. We're talking about this. Yeah, it's still This is you should play. It's a fantastic game. I know you didn't like oblivion. I didn't like oblivion either so much I got a thousand points in oblivion and I was miserable I felt like a day job. I put like ATS and that's what I don't want You know fallout is nothing like that. It was like I wake up
Starting point is 00:15:10 I'd be like time to get a work That's a difference like when when time starts to become like a super important value in your life You're just not gonna want to do that anymore. Now. I think you should give it a try I think you'll find I'm actually gonna go back and play oblivion again now after this because I figure if I like fallout so much I must have missed something in oblivion. It's probably good. How many points did you get in a bovine? I'm like 50. I don't know. Not many. I'm like 40. I mean that's true right the only difference between oblivion and fallout is window dressing Yeah, pretty much well. I think I think stuff like fast travel Enhances the game. I don't think there's anything like that in oblivion. I could be wrong about that. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Yeah. But I do remember getting out of the sewer and having to take a horse for like 17 days. To get to where I sometimes. I did this, to get 1,000 points in oblivion, I did this weird glitch thing where you could. Cheater. Yeah, somewhere glitches probably fixed now.
Starting point is 00:16:01 But you dropped an item and then shot it with an arrow. And however many arrows you had, it would duplicate that item a bunch of times and you could like pick them up and sell them for money and stuff. And I did it with, with something in one of the towns and the frame rate just went to hell. I was like, oh geez, I gotta get out of this town because I'm getting like one frame a second and I got out of the town, frame rate went back to normal because there was none of these items rolling around the ground. I got real life not like that. And then every time I went back to that town, it was slow motion. Like they were saved.
Starting point is 00:16:31 It was like a thousand balls rolling around the town and I couldn't walk through that town without like, imagine how high speed camera would be. That's like a dream for you, a thousand balls rolling around on the ground. It is. It's like Christmas dream for you, a thousand balls rolling around on the ground. It is. It's like Christmas at Gads house. There's a lot of levels to that joke. Oh, there's at least six. Ouch.
Starting point is 00:16:54 So you guys check out the NXE update? I did. I downloaded it, didn't look at it for two seconds. The first off, the Netflix update is tremendous. Like I've had that streaming thing that since Netflix launched the streaming service The day it went on sale I bought the Roku player and so I've been using that forever And I've actually always kind of preferred that to Xbox live because I just think the interface is a little clean And it also has an Amazon on demand, but as of last night
Starting point is 00:17:18 I'll never touch that thing again because the Netflix thing is so cool now It's awesome you can browse and pick movies directly from your from your Xbox and they even make suggestions for you. They're like, hey, we sell you like Rockford File Season 2. Want you to watch Rockford File Season 3? It's right here. Check it out. You like Rockford File? You're going to do it about mystery, right? Here's Simon and Simon. What a coincidence. I do like Simon and Simon. That's fantastic. Wanna watch a Magnum PI? Because we got it. Bam. It's fucking awesome. I'm never gonna leave my Netflix queue now. I would consider moving to the US just for Netflix. Oh, it just tremendous. And they have the party thing like Griffin and I for a long time,
Starting point is 00:17:53 uh, we used to do this thing in our in our journals when back when I had cable, uh, before Hulu and um, Netflix streaming replaced my cable, uh, on like we watched bad sci-fi movies on Sunday night and then post that we were gonna watch them and like anybody that was bored on the site We would all watch the together in journal about it and make jokes and now they have that Netflix party system Which I think would be like it be like living in mystery science theater, right? Where you can get together with like eight people and all watch the same thing and you even get like the little guys Yeah, you get in front of the screen like mystery science there. It's gonna be awesome We gotta test that out soon. Yeah, and then also they made a great change the Gavin
Starting point is 00:18:24 I noticed to achievements where they list achievements in a great change, the Gavin I noticed, to achievements where they list achievements in a totally different way. And you don't have to drill down on the achievement icon to see the description of the achievement anymore. Right. It's like mouse over. So you know a lot to see like a list of achievements with empty descriptions. You have to individually click on each one. Which is the worst. Which I've come up with.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I believe took three years to figure out that, you know, what are you gonna do? Yeah. Well, they figured it it out that's all that matters and then by and by next week we'll we won't even remember that it used to be any other way yeah any other cool stuff in the than the thing I guess you can get avatars shit now that's not playing around with a little uh remote control war dog for his avatar that was kind of cool I still don't think that's I'm just not interested it's enough for you yeah I think I'm I think I'm with yeah I think I'm not I think I'm just not interested. That's just enough for you. Yeah, I think I'm with you. I think I'm not, I think I'm just not interested.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I mean, I can see why some people like that kind of thing. If you're Avatar could go out and kill other avatars, and then get their stuff, and have plus three clothes or whatever, now we're talking, right? Like Avatar PG. That's exactly how I should trademark that, by the way, Avatar PG is mine, property of Jessica.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Like you know how when you look at your friends listen everyone who's offline is just sleeping. If I could get my avatar to run down the line of sleeping people like with a knife and like stabbing. Take their stuff. It'd be great. Take their stuff. That'd be worth doing. That's exactly how it should be right. Let's make those avatars mean something. That you know that doesn't surprise me. I found out something about Gavin yesterday. We were for a shot for something we have to do for some Halo stuff coming up. We had to Gavin, I had to go back and play through Covenant yesterday to get to a certain
Starting point is 00:19:51 point in the map to film something. And I don't know that I've ever played Halo 3 co-op with you before. We always play multiplayer, right? And I played co-op, you know, like everybody, I played through the legendary co-op the first day that came out, beat it, and then just moved on the multiplayer. And I don't know if I've played single-player since then, really. But I found out that Gavin kills every Marine he sees. Yeah, I saw that.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Something disturbing about that, right? It's really upsetting. I don't know what it was, but I thought I was getting legitimately mad. It's weird. Yeah, he saw him with the Jeep, roll over a Marine who's mining his own business, and then Gavin trying to lay on the dead body. It was very disturbing. Like, if a dude's in a gun and Gav wants to be in the gunner of the war pug Not only does he make the guy get out which is totally fine
Starting point is 00:20:30 Then he kills him then he gets in yeah, and he gets mad if you don't do it I'll tell you why I tell you that somehow cool. That's like a personal type You know, I've like seen that before another people and it's always bothered me. It's like why you got a hate You know who had that personality type Jeffrey Dahmer. Hey, that I want to defend myself It's a John Wayne Gacy. I do this in a lot of games where if I'm going for score I will just get rid of everyone else who's on my side. So you can hoard the score so I can get all the Cooler kills all the points and all the good weapons of that holding is nothing again Okay, that does any that does make sense. We were playing for score though. Yeah, we were
Starting point is 00:21:00 No, you work in turn on you're working Who scores when you're working. He's got a great point a we were trying to get through to this point It's quickly as possible because you have fast forward through that shit and B scoring wasn't turned on right I tell you what as well Well Tell me what as well take that Gavin. What do you have to say about that the fact that scoring wasn't not turned on? Which you feel like he's on trial right now. He just nailed him. Right. Scoring was not. Do you think
Starting point is 00:21:28 it's the same with the fact that like I hate marines on the hape? You hate marines. I think you do. You hate, you're like self-hating. I just, if I'm playing, if you could kill every other bread, would you? So you could be the only bread. I just genuinely ingrained. You could be ingrained. It's your chief. Generally ingrained. God forbid I might eat some of your food. It's in the country of England. I just don't like playing along like alongside AI. I don't like being on the same team as AI. It just bothers me. They're getting the way they kill the people I'm trying to kill. Do you feel that they hold the good weapon every I just get rid of them and every game do you feel that way? Every game where friendly fire is available. I'll just I'll just take him out. I want to do it so they take the good weapons but you just got to walk up to him and say hey Marine give me your weapon and he's like okay Master Chief I'd be happy to. I got a Christmas 22 years ago it's my best friend but you're a Master Chief so you can have it
Starting point is 00:22:13 you don't have to kill him dude. I have to. It's fucked up. I know I know it's funny you see that though too but because to me like games now that have a smooth AI that's on your team where it works and it's like a team play, I love that. Yeah, I love that. And you're right. When it doesn't work, it's the worst thing ever. Dude, the perfect example of this. All right. Gears of War 2. Yeah, I like the game.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I did it on insane with my friend Dan. Yeah. And we had this problem where the AI, it was a bit where you split up, you go to this way and to that way. But you're with one AI, so you don't go with each other. So it's like, you take your AI and you go your separate way. The AI constantly got knocked off the fucking ledge by those like more like things that swing the ball. But they follow you don't they? No, they like, bad would just go and do his own thing. He'd run along, he'd get knocked off, and we both have to restart because the AI would be dead
Starting point is 00:23:06 So because beard because beard is clumsy you have to kill every marine in halo Essentially, I mean yeah, I don't want to get hinted by the marine It's almost like when you hear a story like that. It's almost like well. You don't want to risk it. I guess I mean restarting is like now I gotta worry now I gotta worry that like what if I eat the last piece of pizza in the fridge tomorrow night Are you gonna kill me? He had he had he watched my back? I did catch him with like a schematic earlier Yeah, I had a picture of you with X's on your eyes. That's like an animal hanging above my head and the string But I remember on gizmo you said wow do we have to watch this cutscene every day in time?
Starting point is 00:23:39 I must have watched that cutscene 50 times because not only did I occasionally die because it's on insane I didn't look after my fucking AI and he fell off the edge. Well you guys take care of your buddy man He was they're called battle buddies in the army. I had a battle buddy. I had to make sure his pee was hydrated Isn't that gross? I really did wow I really get to know someone yeah, you really do that's one of the things they do They gotta like make sure your buddy's hydrated and you're like how do I make sure my buddy's hydrated Did just make the tree drinks water and they're like nope look at his piss are you are you sure they weren't playing
Starting point is 00:24:07 No, this isn't like that time when I went to Germany for a month when I was 19 and my best friend convinced me that it was Okay to pee on the street in Germany as long as you face away from the road and so for an entire month I pissed once or twice a day in the middle of town Wherever on the street and old women would give me dirty looks and I'd be like, man That chick needs to get progressive. It's totally legal. I didn't find out that was not true until I married Griffin 29 have like a literally like 11 years later. That's what you call a successful joke. Yeah, that's Everyone brings it into their you know, so that's that's a practical joke that affected a large percentage of your life Yeah, like a third of my life. That's the best good. Luckily, I never went back to Germany
Starting point is 00:24:44 The last time I was in England there were English people just it was two in the morning and there like a third of my life. That's the best cut. Luckily, I never went back to Germany. The last time I was in England, there were English people just, it was two in the morning and there was a lot of drinking, but dude, they were just being a little bit English people or animals. I live with two of them. I just feel like they just like in the middle of the room just open up. Disgusting. Yeah. Hey, yeah, let's talk about Nazi zombies. Oh shit, you know what? Yeah, I uh, fired up a, uh, not pack three yesterday for the first time and when I guess like right before Before called duty world it work came out. We had some commercial work to do in it And so we had the game for I don't know two or three weeks before it came out. It was I To do this commercial work. I don't remember who we did it for at this point
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah There's a lead the lead guy lead developer. We were over there in LA, and we were working on the spot, and the guy was like, hey, I want to show you something. And we're like, oh, okay, and he showed us, and it was Nazi zombies, and it was like the greatest thing ever. And he was like, oh, yeah, we've just been working on this as an afterthought. Yeah, I remember you telling me it was like,
Starting point is 00:25:36 it was like five or six dudes just like working after working on the weekend to make it. Internally, just for fun. Right, and it was like the last couple of weeks, I think the last couple of weeks of development, which is why there was a more of it. Yeah. Well, you know, after we finished the commercial or like in tandem to finish the commercial, when we got a free break, we had a Nazi zombie environment setup and you and Gus and Bernie and I would all go back and play it. And it was awesome. And we got addicted to it. We
Starting point is 00:26:01 had to stop playing it because one round of Nazi zombies when you get fairly decent Can last like an hour. So if you play in nazi zombies twice a day, it's like you've blown half your day Because we would get like level 21 to get to like level 21 or level 22 on nazi zombies Which is usually where we'd fall apart Either we would just all fuck up or it would almost come to blows because somebody would screw up And then we'd have to cover and then it would get into a yelling match and it was very intense Anyways, but there were things to debate that was part of the greatness a yelling match. It was very intense. Anyways, we find the last two. But there were things to debate.
Starting point is 00:26:26 That was part of the greatness of the game. It was like, should we open the doors? Should we not open the doors? But there were a few, right? Like, should we open the doors? Should we not open the doors? Should we go upstairs? Should we not?
Starting point is 00:26:35 Which of the two weapons do we get? Very clear, very clear points of contention. And so that was a lot of fun. And then, for whatever reason, I just, I wasn't, I never, after the game came out, I got sidetracked with other stuff, left for dead came out. Everybody did a dip in that. That's what happened. Left for dead came out.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah, we were all addicted to left for dead. And so I never went back to Nazi zombies after launch. I've been trying to pull people back. Yeah, I just don't want to play with myself because I'm scared of zombies. Yeah, no, I'm trying to pull people back in. Well, I got the Matt Pack 3 yesterday. Awesome. So, yeah, it's really cool. And so I decided to hop on Xbox live and play with just some random dudes and see what not
Starting point is 00:27:09 These zombies has evolved into I could not be more lost They are like really at least and in this mat pack three the Rysa or I'm sure somebody's gonna tell me how horribly I spelled it or pronounce that but It's in it's you're in like a facility and there's like seven doors to open and Zombies come from like 96 directions and there's you can upgrade your weapons There's like a slot machine where you can upgrade your weapons now And there's an electric fence that you can turn on that was the thing right like there's a goal now Yeah, and there's teleporters so you can teleport around the map. It's like way complicated
Starting point is 00:27:43 I'm gonna it's gonna take me like a week just to figure out what the hell is going on. I was totally lost and I'm a huge burden on my team. I'm not sure how I feel about the teleporters. I don't know. I don't know. You know, MatPak 1 and 2 also have Nazi zombie maps. They might be a little different. But this one is like kind of like a remind me of Wolfenstein in a way. It's like a sci-fi World War II kind of stuff, you know? And like in the first map pack or first map pack in the launch game, you the cool thing to get would be like the like the
Starting point is 00:28:07 Space Man gun, right? Right? It was very every the ray gun every once in a while you could get it from the box. Yeah. This is like everything is like that. It seems like it's really confusing. Yeah. And you're just and the map is massive too. Well, was all that stuff happening with the bits of fence that would like fly up in the air and then reattach that they're like, oh, that was what made the game great. It's like basically there was boarded up windows. You can work here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I'm here. Zombies have to like break through your barrier to come at you, which is something the left for that doesn't have, which I kind of wish it did. Oh, and then you can repair it as soon as you kill the zombies. Okay. And then like, it's a losing battle. I just thought of some weird talk. Like, when they came out with the new left for dead gameplay I was hoping that it was gonna be like that instead of a map where all of a sudden you hit a switch in a tidal wave
Starting point is 00:28:48 It curves and right cuz there's no like once something goes down. That's it. It's down You know, it's like the the nice thing about survival mode in left for dead though is if you get good at not these zombies And I don't know about Mad Pack 3 but at least like in the launch game like like I said you could last for an hour hour and a half And it's like you really start to it starts to eat in your time and it's kind of like a war of attrition left for dead on that map if you survive six minutes you feel like you're a fucking king of the war I I really they really disappointed me they really really disappointed me like in the color of the zombie game you can have strategy yeah you can have strategy and it can work or not work or whatever and but you can go through and have a strategy and left for dead there's no Strangie's all stand here you stand there and we'll shoot our weapons its zombies and that's it
Starting point is 00:29:31 Maybe people that are that are better at games than us can that strategies yeah, but it definitely didn't work out so You know it's it's not I don't know it doesn't seem like a good team you know I mean and we've tried to have strategies Yeah, I see I don't know what you're doing. order. We've strategically put the fucking propane tanks around. No. The next thing you know, everything's on fire right now. No, right. There's no strategy regarding the propane tanks. It's just, you know, it's too loose and open, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:55 We also only really spent most of our time on that map, which is by far the hardest. I heard like I know mercy and stuff. You can, on average, you can hit like 10, 12, 15 minutes without too much work and strategy and more of a part of it. I think that's just the map to kick your ass What's going on with my life that I didn't I haven't even played survival mode on any other map I've never played it was was there any achievements related to that? No, no, so was it what did it was a not DLC?
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yeah, it was DLC. It was free though free. Yeah, I don't think you can have achievements tied to free DLC That's a shame. Yeah, but they have the new ones coming out and hopefully that'll have achievement when's that out? It comes that September something September 20th. I think did the cat escape Nathan just walked in and said hi You can you can tell it's Nathan because the voice was in the hall the voice was tall People in skyscrapers right now heard that perfect. Have you ever seen Nathan's head? Have I seen now? Someday though, I look forward to it. I walked up and tried to look at him. It's just fog, it's fog up there, and clouds. Birds.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Yeah. OK, what else, anybody else, everything? It's been a very Xbox heavy podcast. It has. So we just talked about something that's not related. How about the Neil? Neil Deed is viral spot. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I think that thing's like years old. But because of District 9, which none of us have seen yet But Bernie got to see inside its fantastic. When's it come out? There's I think it comes at this week sometime Oh, I hope but I want to go like you want to say Joe? I'll see you there's a Friday. Yeah, yes, let's all go but Anyway, Bernie could not stop talking about how great it was and how it's a fan that was really good And how yeah, and how he would have done a fantastic job directing Halo so I had also heard that he did a like an Adidas viral spot that was pretty cool so I looked it up yesterday it's the yellow thing and you and I watched it yesterday and that was pretty fucking awesome
Starting point is 00:31:34 itself like the I think the effects in it or and that's something you hear all the time like the effects were great I think the effects and this were really something else no really absolutely like when they when they're doing all the like shit coming in out of his head Like the oh yeah, I'm gonna say the other thing the thing He did the thing in the office of the temp worker the temp robot worker in the office. Is that the same guy? Did I know he did like the citron commercial where the car turns into a trans Sorry, how do you pronounce that?
Starting point is 00:31:59 Citron citron. Okay. How do you pronounce it? Citron So the same way I don't suppress it. I don surprise Adidas why would you do that anyway I know Ben had Ben had issue you were people from England was this the guys it was the guy's name was it was like I was called Adidas Slur or something Adidas Wilbur Adidas I don't know Ben I know it's very cool and I love that kind of viral marketing where it's not over. They don't beat you over the head with their product. I mean, I think I only saw at one point in the commercial.
Starting point is 00:32:31 He was wearing a jacket that had an ad-de-dass logo on it for about two seconds. And that was enough for me. I got it. Ben took issue with that. He thought that there should be more product placement in it. But I think that takes away from the coolness of the spot. I thought that spot was pretty long. You know, it could have been half as long.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Just keep all the effects and lose just like the war. You know, like the story? What was the story? Oh, they had some interesting dialogue. They made these like cool robot AI dudes and then they, the one dude got away and they had been trying to track them down forever and he was like more powerful and cooler than they imagined. And essentially if you buy in a D-dys jacket like a jump suit or a track suit, you'll be like the toughest motherfucker on the planet. But I don't want my head going up. Well I think the subconscious of it was that robot was wearing a D-dys sneakers. Yeah, that's him.
Starting point is 00:33:17 It was very fast. It's possible. Anyway, it was very cool. Just real high. I appreciated D-dys not beating me over the head with, you know know shoe shots for five minutes. Yeah, I think so too But I mean this is your point like they released it like years ago or long time now for a long time and you know We're talking about it. Yeah, there you go Didn't that citron commercial inspire Michael Bay? I don't know did it to make the movie to make transformist
Starting point is 00:33:40 I think like the $200 million paycheck Yeah, I wish I wish it would have inspired his aesthetic. I can't tell what the fuck's going on with those transformers. No, that's true. That's the like the effect in that yellow piece. Like the organic, there's something about it. I assume District 9 is going to be like that. The ad certainly looks like that.
Starting point is 00:34:00 To me, it's like a game changing moment where it's like there's a mix of organic Reality mixed with the visual effects it sells it so much more. It's like going back to the old It just doesn't work. Yeah, I agree anymore Also cartoonish from what I've seen from his halo shorts and from the uh, I can't remember the other but the the district nine shorts I can't remember what they were called uh That dudes can film action really well, you know It kind of reminds me of whoever shot children of men Is that what the movie was called right? Do you guys understand the I never saw it the what's Clive Owen movie I wasn't a fan of the movie, but it was the the the war stuff was really really well shot and had kind of a very
Starting point is 00:34:37 believable like I don't know gritty kind of feel to it and I get that from from Palm Camp to I Think any all the action that that movie is going to be. So you'd be, you'd be happy with him doing Halo. Who Blump Camp? Yeah. Well, I haven't seen District 9 yet. I mean, based on his Adidas commercial. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Yeah. Yeah. How would you, how would you feel about a little Steven through? Steven Spielberg. Steven Spiel. Uh, dude, I don't know what, what can you say about that? I, you know, there was a rumor earlier this week that Spielberger was trying to resurrect Spielberger.
Starting point is 00:35:08 That's what I'm going to call him from now. Spielberger's going to announce that Spielberger was trying to resurrect a Halo movie and produce it. And then I just read yesterday on joystick that Microsoft was like, Project's still on halt. We don't know what you're talking about. So who knows. But Steven Spielberg makes awesome movies, you know?
Starting point is 00:35:26 Yeah. What's the last thing that he actually directed? It seems like all he does now is executive produce. The last thing he directed, would it be War of the Worlds? Maybe. I think it didn't see it, but I heard bad things. I hated it. I hated it.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I never ever wanted to. I'm memorable to me. Really? I loved it. They thought it was great. Really? Yeah, Gus and I were like, do we watch the same movie? I don't know, I was, but I did not like it. But Spielberg makes a fucking fantastic film.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Halo is one of those things where like, I can watch all those comic book and superhero movies. I've never really been that into the originals. Yeah. But if someone butchered the Halo movie, I'd be so mad. It'd be the worst thing. Like, I'm totally fine with any other movie being poorly remade. So Halo is like the one thing I'm passionate about.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Would you want to see just like a rehash of the story already told with better visual effects? Or would it, I mean, would it have to be something different? I don't know, you know, I don't even think the Master Chief is the best part of the Halo story. I don't know. The four-runner stuff is more interesting. is the best part of the Halo story I don't know I don't know I don't know stuff is more interesting I make a better movie did you guys ever see the Hitman movie now did you see it was a good did you ever play him and no well was not not well but they're making a see their hitman movie yeah yeah it had a was a good Timothy Olyphant or how have you pronounced his name from die hard was a
Starting point is 00:36:43 good no and I loved the games and I think I personally could have shot a bit of movie than that Yeah, but we can say a lot Well, they're making a sequel so maybe that'll be better This podcast got so sad all of a sudden we started talking about we're all happy talking about how I can improve it though How's that? By throwing a pen at me. That's a great idea Congratulations. You agree for the audience to suddenly listen to it better that? By throwing a pen at me? That's a great idea. Congratulations. If you're great for the audience to suddenly listen to that.
Starting point is 00:37:07 So listen to that. You know what's great for podcasts? Sitegags, really. Now let's talk about your wacky shirt. This is I'm just saying Jeff, and that schematic I saw earlier, that was step one. Was it? Was through a pen and Jeff. So watch out.
Starting point is 00:37:18 He's looking at you, but all he sees is a Marine in Halo. So the program that they showed you. And what's your microphone? I don't believe that you really have a problem with me I mean I mean it's totally different. You do if you haven't is it the principle of it? Or is it the fact that if I took out Jeff I could have two microphones That way we'd have to restart the podcast Jeff might accidentally go over cliff and then I'll have to start over. Can't afford that. Better take him out now, Gav. Dude, I got my high on you, Gav.
Starting point is 00:37:49 You know, I mean, as soon as Gavino starts lighting things on fire, I think that means he's officially entered stage two. Jeffery Dahmer... If he starts referring to himself as Gavin David Free, they were in real trouble. I tell you what, though. I hope there's not a stat for like marine betrayals on Bungie Donut. This Dutch referendum is often Gavin David free, they were in real trouble. I tell you what though. I hope there's not a stat for like marine betrayals on Bungie on it. You know there's a website somewhere that records it and has it, but it's probably wrong. You had the most betrayals in the fucking game last night.
Starting point is 00:38:16 I have five and the only way the only reason I did that is because after you kill Gilti Spark, the auto turrets turn against you. And I keep deploying them. Deploying them like in in front of Andrew panton and they shoot him in the back So it started it just killing AI people now you're I mean, yeah Eventually you get bored of killing AI's right it's like It's like killing cats isn't doing a firm anymore. I gotta go for something bigger I think we have to get him out of this office as soon as possible killing AI's right? It's like killing cats isn't doing it for many more. I got to go for something bigger. I think we have to get him out of this office as soon as possible. I think so too. I think the cats England misses you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sure England's AI Marines day, Risman.
Starting point is 00:38:59 You know, it's funny. We're talking about GAV and we're laughing, we're laughing, but really it's gonna be Ben. Yeah, we're gonna come word that we're toast. He's gonna end all of our lives. That's true. Been sitting at home right now plotting He's he's coding our death. He's set gav up. He's set him up as all these things Take the fall blood fingerprints all over your face Maybe dead we gavs. That's a salad. Should we stop is there anything else to talk about? I don't have anything else. I'm tapped. You got anything else. You came over the pretty good list in the car I just we went through it all didn't we? You sure? we did do I was gonna talk about the other movie that I haven't seen it so I don't know You can talk about what you think it'll be like I heard somebody got fired the editor of the director of fire like a month before Release looking at the trailer what said the director shot the whole movie and then got fired something like that
Starting point is 00:39:40 How does that have the rumor hey happens by yeah, I guess like I always read the director is like the fucking god of the movie But I guess is totally replaceable. Oh, yeah Well, not the active if the actor shot like 50% of the movie he's locked in right he's ledger died in the middle of a movie And they replaced them with Johnny dead I'm sure there's like a cost effective colon fail chart somewhere that you know, I don't know I've heard horror stories from actors where it's like they finally break through, they finally get the role. It's like, oh, I got the role or whatever, and they go through the read through, and they
Starting point is 00:40:10 do the read through, and they're like, oh, my life's that way. And then like, after the read through, they're like, let go. It's like, oh, my God. Case in point, I hope we haven't talked about this in the podcast already, but Eric Stoltz was Marty and back to the shoot. That's right. And he, they filmed for like two or three weeks. And you can go online and find shots of Eric Stoltz
Starting point is 00:40:28 like in the parking lot. Yeah. And like getting ready to go back in time. We're in the same fucking orange jacket and all that shit. And like two or three weeks in, Michael J. Fox freed up his schedule and was able to shoot it. And so they just fucking dumped them. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:44 So how much of what percentage in the movie was shot? I don't know, two weeks worth. What's that for typical movie? Because it's not much. Probably not much. Not much, but still. 10 minutes worth. The fact that the fact, once you get into the point where
Starting point is 00:40:55 they're actually shooting first unit staff, I mean, that's, you've already committed all sorts of resources and money to that. Must have cost a lot of money to replace them at that point. And they probably had to do something to play Kate the fucking shit. But that has to be a point for an actor where you've got like, I don't know, like 40% into a movie, and you could do whatever the hell you want, right?
Starting point is 00:41:12 I don't know. Like, they're not gonna- It also depends upon who that actor is. You know what I mean? It's like if you're Tom Cruise and you're getting X amount of, you know, yes. You might be able to get 40% in that movie and start being a dickhead and then be able to make it through that film
Starting point is 00:41:25 But you might not get the next movie like Tom Cruise got dropped by whoever went after mission possible three Remember then he yeah, and he got picked up. I think I don't remember who he's with Paramount or whatever But yeah, they dumped them. Wow. Oh, you know, that was but that was in between movies out That was like the CEO was it subnau redstone, I think was it Yeah, Subna Redstone, who's like 400 years old at this point? The guy started MTV or whatever and he just had a like a full, you know, I don't know. I don't know what it was. Said something weird and dropped the contract, but that's a little different. That's like they weren't in production of a movie at the show. Sure. But I've totally read about how actors and actresses are so difficult to work with.
Starting point is 00:42:00 They just don't get roles, you know? Well, I've actually read that about Jim Carey. Really? The Jim Carey can be really hard to work with and people don't want to put them in movies anymore We hear about why it's kind of slowed down like Lindsey low-ham, right? I mean like she's given chance after chance after chance It's just not shown up not showing up not showing up. Yeah Yeah, but main for like Disney movies and stuff comes in like trunk Disney movies anymore. She didn't she what was that last she did that was all happy and kidding movie. She know I know who killed me. Yeah, I don't know. She did George a rule. Right. There's like the last big movie she did. Joe, you've been on a lot of sets. What's what's some of your
Starting point is 00:42:38 most memorable set moments in terms of it? In terms of people getting like comfortable talking about it will be recorded to be honest is that bad yeah yeah who's the hottest actress you've ever seen on set wow that's a good that's a good question is it Jessica Simpson and Duke's a hazard yeah you know that might be yeah that's a funny story we I got to be I I got to be, what's his face is? Johnny Knoxville. I was Johnny Knoxville's photo double and stand-in on the reshoots of Duke's with Hazard. And I guess apparently they had filmed the movie
Starting point is 00:43:13 and they had a certain ending. They tested it, didn't like the ending. So they went back and read it the ending. And the end of the movie was at a courtroom or whatever, where it's an entire courtroom full of people. And there's rent-olds and there's Willie Nelson and just everybody and Jessica Simpson's there and she's just looking it was like the end it was like a beer commercial and he wasn't there doing it so it was me so it
Starting point is 00:43:35 was like they're all like look at it me and she's coming up to me and how can me and it was fantastic day it was a fantastic day how about what's her name from X-Men the red-headed lady what's her name from X-Men, the red-headed lady? What is her name? You know, I saw, I worked on Maid, and I saw her and... You were done Maid? Yeah, just... What did you do?
Starting point is 00:43:55 Couple, just a week. I was like a guy and there was a cigar bar. Yeah, there was a cigar bar. There was a cigar there, I was in that. But, you know, Bernie and I saw like the world premiere of Maid in Austin. Really? Yeah, John Favreau and Vince Vaughn were there on hand, had like a Q&A. It was really awesome. Those are two big dudes.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Yeah. Those are two big dudes. Yeah, there were things. John Favreau's. They were thanking everybody on the way out. That was, that was really cool. Yeah. Those guys were nice.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Yeah, super cool. Yeah. I had no idea you were done made, but I can't think of her name. But I've heard she's notoriously difficult to work with too. Yeah, that's, I've heard that too. Yeah. Yeah, too. I've heard that too. Yeah What are you talking about? X men she played a great. Oh, I know you talk about you talk about She was a fan. Yeah, fan. Yeah, they replaced her. She was in men and black too
Starting point is 00:44:36 She was originally the mean alien woman whatever Oh, yeah, she was originally in that and they replaced her apparently because there was some difficulties there I guess but oh really? Hmm. She was in gold and I was she wasn't right. That's right. She was also in the waxness Oh, she was in the waxness was that a good news that this was yeah, yeah, that's all right It's got it's funny seeing that fat kid off Nickelodeon like Josh Josh from break and Josh yeah, he wasn't fat anymore by the end the end of the show. Not that I watch. Oh, I watch Drake and Josh. It was a good show. Millie liked it. It was a good show. Fuck you guys. Hey, when you have a kid like obviously in your entertainment routine, it does too. Like I went from watching, you know, whatever to Drake and Josh.
Starting point is 00:45:17 That was that was right. That was the generation under me, for Nickelodeon. Like my generation I watched keen and cow When all this new dragon josh and Amanda people came in I was done. I guess I had to grow up at that point All right, well they have it. This is a drunk think number whatever I think it's 18. Is it 18? Yeah, it's funny Because when we started this drunk tank I'd originally had another member of it But we had to replace that member like halfway through halfway through I'd replace him with gav It was Eric Stoltz. We had Eric Stoltz on the game First of the game. Light half way through. Half way through. We had to replace him with Gav. It was Eric Stoltz. We had Eric Stoltz on here. Yeah, first of the first 20 minutes. First 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:45:49 He was running the Gavs close. You could find shots online of him recording this podcast. Alright, that's it. Let's save it. Let's be done. Katal. Bye bye. Oh, Faw.
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