Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #21

Episode Date: September 2, 2009

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Twisted metal, now only on peacock Them guys in Austin known as Ruestite sat in a post in a podcast each and every week starring Bernie, Jeff, Joel and Gus they sit right down and begin to discuss whatever they want Maybe sometimes wow or the current events that are happening now. They product place to make some bank But that's what they do because they're the drunk tank Drunk tank How do I something to feel like we're in a strip club dude. I guess I'm gonna go white so mix a lot Can you identify the beat bed? That's what I want to know

No, I can well, what was it? I'm gonna look it up here Stephen play for you guys, you know um I'm really shocked at how many podcast theme songs were getting sound just like that It's a lot of spiring young rappers out there a lot of a lot of young M&M's out there who was that? Oh shit, I closed it was it Teresa Bach of young M&M's out there. Who was that? Oh shit I closed it was it Teresa Bach. No, it was not Teresa Bach. It was Dark Crad 14 dark Crad then must be his username on our website. You know, I think his name is dark Crad walking around on the street No, I don't think his parents named him that his girlfriend's name is blonde one five oh four two She's and she's really a dude yeah she's really middle-aged fat dude

that unless I miss my guess that beat bed was from Beck's loser what is it I think so it's some back song I think for sure interesting but that's where he pulled that from where did you learn the term beat bed I mean you know that's a really good question I don't know where I learned the truth you just invented because I've never heard of it until I Could use a rhythm blanket in my beat bed. Fuck it. I'm down yo. I Think I heard the term beat bed from you days in the street When you were popping and locking

I used to work I used to work for Dre back in the day. He was an advanced gang. Was that your your manager's name at Blimpies Dre? Back then he was Mr. Dre. He wasn't a doctor yet. Yeah. Do you remember there was some M&M song where he made fun of Christina Aguilera? Yes. Okay. There was a hoax response to that where she used the term beatbed this fake Christina Aguilera came back at M&M with a song and it talked about how he would be shit without Dre's beat beds. Hmm, I see. So I'm literally referencing a fake Christina Aguilera. That's where I get all my street cred. I don't think that's an appropriate reference for Wikipedia.

I don't think fake Christina Aguilera qual. I don't think so. Faith Christine Aguilar qualifies. Still more legitimate than anything Gus and I got. Yeah. Hey, speaking of that, you know what? Why is fucking Wikipedia page got deleted? Did it? Yeah. Let's not talk about that.

I got rolled in a rooster. Now when you search for my name, you just get redirected to Rooster T. Do you think that's, how do you know that? Were you spending some time Wikipediaing yourself? My wife, like, is looking at my Wikipedia page for some reason? So why would you want a Wikipedia page? No, frankly, she's got a she's got a psych herself up for sex She's like just remember he's famous. He's got a Wikipedia page. He's got a Wikipedia page. Just take off the bra I can do this. Maybe that's why I've got laid recently

She needs to check your references I like him okay, well let's see some side. Oh, man. Did, uh, does my celebrity diverticulitis status still exist? No, they removed all the, they removed all the celebrity cases, the diverticulitis because they realized that it doesn't fucking matter. You were listed as a celebrity case. It was like, I added him in.

It was me in sunny bono I think there were a bunch of people and I thought Jeff Scott this I should put him in here So I put him in there and then someone put citation needed so then for my citation I put the comic where Jeff gets And they accepted it The fart comic Celebrity onus pages. That's the best thing ever happened to Wikipedia.

And then it got deleted like six months ago, I think. They discovered it all the celebrity cases on the Diverty Fulitis page. That's too bad. I was on there with some pretty awesome. There was like a car dealer from LA, like a used car salesman, who was on there. And then you got deleted and then it was like not really a celebrity. That's funny. It was like, wow, they left Jeff in, but they took down this other dude.

No, it's Wikipedia moderators can be harsh. There was one guy in particular who was on me for a while for trying to get that citation. I don't remember what his name was. I'll have to look it up. I'll put it in the link below. How do you get the job as a Wikipedia moderator? Free time? Is there like a quiz?

Or something? I mean, what's the qualifications to be a Wikipedia moderator. Free time? Is there like a quiz or something? What's the qualifications to be a Wikipedia moderator? And correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't the whole point of Wikipedia to not have moderators that this is a globally modified database? Yeah, but you got to have some people in there checking to make sure that people aren't just going around to facing everything. Like the time Jason I got drunk and put that electus to suck Dix on your wikipedia page Do you know okay? That was only up for like two minutes. That was up

That was up for like two minutes You do know that have you ever heard the whole saga of how I got Bernie.com? Yeah, okay. Yeah, but please this is a great story There was there was a city in Tasmania, which is a it's it's has me a part of Australia's It's like a state after once we's a, it's a part of Australia is an old country. Yeah, it's like a state. After once we're talking to New Zealand as part of Australia, I have learned to be cautious about saying what is part of Australia and what is not.

And anyway, Bernie Tasmania is a city in Tasmania and it's spelled exactly like my name, B-U-R-N-I-E. Well, I registered Bernie.com a very long time ago. And if I had to get it from a domain squad, or I had to wait till it expired and snag it like literally waited for a week and expired and I grabbed it. So about a month later the city of Bernie Tasmania started to contact me and they wanted the website and I we went to this whole kind of funny thing where I was talking with someone

in the mayor's office and they said they wanted it and I made these outrageous demands like I will give it to you. I will redirect all the web traffic. I will give it to you as long as you have a parade in my honor and I get to march in the front of the parade and you build a statue of me which I'll pay for but you have to put it up in a park somewhere where it's me and I have in the outstretched end I have a can of fosters and tucked under my arm I have a platypus and I get to make up the inscription for why I have a statue and then they just didn't respond to that they wouldn't come back so I found out though I was looking to the old emails trying to like kind of keep this going and I saw they said well we

least modified something less offensive and I said less offensive I don't have I don't have anything up on that web webpage just a blank page got said modified it and for two months it said Bernie sucks cock so if you live in the city of Bernie Tasmania you got this horrible message every time you logged on a Bernie dot com home. What did you do that? It was back when we worked at At the call center I think it was Bernie had done something to one of my domains and I got mad and I had root on our web host So I just changed Bernie. I come to that was that back in the like when he was fucking with show me the monkey

Yeah, oh, that was funny though. That was funny You're your little vandalism probably cost me my statue of a platypus, man. So I didn't get my platypus. Well, I'm very sorry to hear that you didn't get your statue. I just use it for mail, you know, because I wanted to have a static email address that was still personalized, that I realized like back in the late 90s that stuff like hot mail or, you know, Gmail didn't exist at the the time that all that stuff was eventually going to go away. So I wanted to have a more permanent email address. So I established Bernie.com. So what was Bernie.com before you had

it? It was just a site apart domain site. Can anyone explain how those work on a business model level? Like if you just park a popular name and it's just a page of just random links which is what I see most often that are related to the name of the site how do they make money from that? I don't know how it's made anyone make money advertising on the internet probably just you know fractions of a penny every time but people can't possibly be paying like I want to go after this part domain eyeballs you know?

well yeah I'm sure it's just you, people buying ads in bulk and just throwing them out, however, in any place I can serve them. But it's just a list of links, it's not even like an advertisement. It's a, you know, I don't know if you've seen it, but there's some very sexy ads on rootertieth.com. I heard that. Another Jeff is a celebrity thing, he's on some list of gamer celebrities. Yeah, my gamer

And I don't know how I got on that I had nothing to do with it. What rank you on that now? Are you in the 20s? I'm in the 20s somewhere One point it was your go to get number one right? I got it. I got as high as 16 and then I fell down Oh, you don't know how you got on there, but all of a sudden you know how high you were And I had a goal to get to number one. I know that once I found it. I was on there I was like if I'm gonna be on here. I'm gonna be the fucking top dog, right? But no no or near. I also want to put out the Jeff is like Why do you care what do you what does it different just make Jeff heard a major Nelson podcast where they mentioned one time?

That there's a list of the most viewed gamer tags and that he was like number eight on the list Yeah was Jeff what he he put his gamer card everywhere. That he could possibly put it like on our front page. And he went up so quickly that they just stopped putting out the list, or do they still put it out now? I haven't seen it a long time. Jeff ruined it for everybody. I'd like to think so.

Had to game the system. Who was up in number one? I like game the system, but it was like, Major Nelson or, I don't know, E or soldier boy, one of those people. Major Nelson put out a list where he was top of the list. That seems odd to me. And cut that out. So yeah.

Yeah. Hey, so speaking of Major Nelson, we'll be seeing him in two days, by the way. At the event that he was so nice to Shots to I'm shocked so you want to talk about packs and we're going to packs. Oh shit. That's tomorrow, isn't it? Yeah, I guess I'm gonna have a and you two I'm gonna put fucking 4 a.m. The mara flight of pounds That's the way that's gonna work. Yeah, our flight is six since since Jeff and I are neighbors like it to give him a ride tomorrow Oh really? It's me get a neighbors before we get in the back. I

Want let's talk about what your life has like since you bought a house for a little bit It's been pretty miserable. I don't want to go through the whole rig or moro. Oh please We don't have enough hot bags of my day But let's talk about the two things that happened to you yesterday So you know after I moved out of my old house You know my wife doesn't drive. I should start with that And why doesn't your wife drive? She doesn't like to drive. So she chooses not to. Yeah she chooses not to. She doesn't like to drive, but she doesn't. It guss is defense. She's Asian. I'm probably doing

you all a favor by keeping her off the road. But dude that's how joke you're other Asian girlfriend. 10 years ago. I wrote in the color of their one time, she wrote the wrong way over, she wrote in the wrong lane over a bridge with oncoming traffic coming at us. That was it, and I was like, you've got to do it. We were gonna die and she was like, I have no idea what you're talking about. Everything's fine.

It was on Riverside, right? Yeah. It's funny. Anyway, okay. So, I just like to just perpetuate, is there some reason why she won't drive? I have a suspicion there's something sinister here. No, she says that she doesn't like to drive and I Can't make her drive so he says she have an ability to drive. Yeah, she can totally drive. I've seen her do it

That's a fair point. That's that's no problem for me. She's so she's not perpetuating the myth that Asian women can't drive. No, no, no, she can't What did that note that secret note you wrote? I can read it. No, no, no, she can't. She totally prepared for you. What did that secret note you wrote? I was. I couldn't read it. Can you say don't mention something? You didn't introduce yourself.

Oh, we did introduce ourselves. Hey, I'm looking at us. We're getting notes from Mr. fucking first time sitting in the room. I'm Felicia Day. Oh, then I'm Bernie Burns. I'm Felicia Gay. Oh, OK, let's go back to this.

Yeah. And let's give you an over there. Yeah. Is that the first time you've opened your fucking mouth this podcast? Hey, now he's talked a couple times. Let's talk. So, you know, my car has been acting up and the AC's broken in it. So when my mom found out that my AC was broken, she let me one of her cars. And I've been driving that around.

So I had two cars and I'm the one that can drive in my house. We moved out of my old house and this created a problem. So I had to leave my car with the broken AC at the old house. And I've been driving this other car with AC. So last night I said before packs, gotta go get the car. That was the second time. You should go back.

I don't want to go. This is the store I'll take forever. Okay. But anyway, so I said, I gotta go get the car that's broke with no AC at my old house. So I called Jeff. I was like, come on, we will get the cars. He's like, okay.

We go down there, the car's been egged Yeah, there's like seriously Someone put like 18 eggs on my car because this thing it was they had a comel it on it It's like my car was sunny side up And so like what the fuck is this and like this egg shows are like my car got egged okay But this is just your car like Somebody gone and bull eggs to put on your car. Yeah, now. Why do you think the egg your car? Prolics has been sitting there for three weeks Really just sitting there was a barbed like I moved it from one side of the street to the other once

Okay, that wasn't enough So save off an egging so we get down there the car won't start because the battery's dead So I've got one of those I I've got one of those chargers you plug in the like the cigarette lighters of each car and it charges it up. That can't work. It worked, that's how I moved the car last time. It was dead and I did, I tried, we tried to jump it, we couldn't jump it, so I bought that charger at work, I moved to the side of the street.

So I bought, you know, I put it out there, couldn't start it. So like, mother fucker, what the hell's going on? Um, so I've, I don't know, I put it out there, couldn't start it. So like, motherfucker, what the hell's going on? So I, I don't know, I've got to go buy a new battery. I didn't do it, I was supposed to do it this morning, but I, I can't bring myself to do it. So I, I'd like to point out though, that this is the second time Gus was called me and said, hey, help me move this car. And the first time we went out there, well first off, he picks me up the first time we go all the way over there, get there, Gus realizes, I don't have the keys for this car.

So we had to drive all the way across town back to his house to get The keys to go all the way back over there to find out the batteries dead. We spent an 20 30 minutes trying to jump it to no avail. This time when he calls me last night He goes I went and I charged the battery last week. I promise it'll work. I'm not gonna waste your time I don't know I've charged it and I removed it. I thought I don't get out there fucking dead Why aren't you driving your own car? I don't understand because the AC's broken up I'm driving the car my mom let me and it's been the hottest year in the history of Austin. Oh, okay? Okay, I'm sorry. I got stuck in the house thing with the AC thing

Okay, so you're not driving your car because you're AC's bus, right? And you're what kind of car are you driving with your mom? It's a Chevy cobalt I'm 31 years old and I'm driving my mother's car Which is I mean how much damage to the due to your car cuz I mean is okay is you have a nice car no As of yesterday What happened how much damage was done to this thing? No, there's really no damage. It's just covered in the neck It's a little yoke so what is your mom driving? She's mom has tons of cars apparently. Okay. How many I don't know but enough to give me one It's okay, so anyway tons of cars apparently. Okay. How many? I don't know, but enough to give me one.

So anyway, the other day on Saturday, I got a bill from the gas company. And I thought, this is weird. I just got a bill the other day. Why am I getting another bill? So I opened up this new bill and it says, final bill. Oh good. Balance negative $28. No more bills.

And I thought, well, that's weird. I shouldn't be my final bill. So I call the gas company and their phone systems down so they can't take my call And they just for your new house, right So I thought okay, I'll just call my Monday. So I got home on Monday and I check my mail and there was a check from the gas company for $28 and I thought oh shit something's going wrong so I call the gas company and They say oh yeah, yeah, well, your service has been canceled.

And I said, why? They said, oh, a new tenant activated service at that address. And I said, new tenant, I bought this house two months ago. And I said, who activated service of this address? And they said, sorry, sorry, we can't tell you because of privacy. And on a hunch, I said, I'm going to change your name. But I said, is it Peggy and Peggy being the previous owner of the house?

And they said, yes, that is the name of the person who activated service. And I said, what's going on here? And they said, well, on August 19, Peggy called, and she said she wanted to activate service at this address, effective August 24th. And I said, well, I'm still living here. I bought this house from her two months ago. And they said, well, sorry, sir. And I said, well, I need to get my name back on the account. I need this to be mine.

She still holds the gas rights. Yeah. And then they said, okay, well, we'll just need to charge you a $10 installation fee. And we can get it switched back over to your name. And I said, no, you're not going to charge me a $10 installation fee. And they said, well, it's just, it's a standard fee, sir. I know I said, I know it's a standard fee. I paid it already. It's a non-standard just connection I said I paid it already you can't charge me to read to reconnect it again They said I can do anything about it sir. I said okay. I want to cancel everyone's gas on my street

And they said what I said apparently anyone can't sell anyone's gas so I'm canceling everyone's gas and they said What was you done? This had worked Hold on, sir. What was you done with this and worked? I remember it's my whole age, you know. They make sure that's an excellent point. We'll get right on that. They'll be put me on hold for like 10 minutes. They come back and they go, yeah, you don't need to pay the fee, sir. What a find. That's ridiculous. So did you find out why this peggy lady is going after your gas?

No, so I called my real turk, because I know she's still in contact with that other woman Because I have no way to contact her. Can you call her and ask what the fuck is going on? Yeah, what they say? I have no I don't know. I hope they'll find out today. Fuck that Well, I'm good to for it. No, but was it a good purchase? The sale went fine. Okay, no hiccups. No problems. I seem to recall there was a story about you showing up to move in and The lady was having second thoughts after closing. No, that was. I seem to recall there was a story about you showing up to move in and the lady was having second thoughts After closing. No, that was true. Oh, that was you. Yeah, that was when Griffin came to move in nine months pregnant and the lady took one look at Griffin and kicked her out of the house and said

She couldn't she had to come back in two hours I can't she'd been in the house for like 20 years She started and then like she came in a little bit later. She kept coming into the house after we closed. It was weird. But Griffin was painting the living room wall and ladies burst into tears and ran out. She's proud. Luckily she didn't know about the old gas trick. The best part about that is if you would have done nothing, Peggy'd be paying for your gas right now I know maybe I'm stupid for calling the gas company dude So I'd say if you get Peggy to put the electric in her name too I know I guess I should call the other utilities and make sure everything's still in my name

I'm not about it. Yeah, so how come they're not allowed to disclose the name of Peggy But if you guess her name they just say oh Like yes, it's a he can just keep his name until I say oh, yeah, finally enough that was her I mean that makes sense was her. There was a guest at the end. He could just keep guessing names until they say, oh yeah, funnily enough, that was her. I mean, that makes sense to me. She's a human. She obviously know what the problem is, so she thinks she can get to the bottom of the problem because Gus knows the information. That makes sense to me.

It's a flawed system. No, I thought. I like it. And before I hung up, I was like, listen, I don't want this to happen again. Can we put like a password on my account or something? Do you think when they put you on hold to go talk to the manager, it was because they realized that you really could turn off the gas and invest. Maybe the guy wished for word after his secret.

Let's go turn off everyone's gas and the manager was like, what the fuck are you doing? So I like the gavs idea of a more perfect system would be that they turn us away without a solution. That's proper. Oh no. It's not customer service is like an England. That's proper. Oh no, it's not a customer service. Is that a customer service like in England? It's a British way of thinking.

Do you have issues like this in the UK? I mean, you go through this stuff all the time. Well, you live with mummy and daddy, so do they have issues like this? I pay the bills. Do you? Yeah, my parents don't pay the bills. You're at the skills to pay the bills?

Sure. I've had a lot of trouble with, like, I've had a new phone. The phone I have now, I've had it for 18 months, and it's still registered to my older dress, and I've called them a bunch times. And they, at one point, thought somebody else owned the phone, and it's a mess. I don't even get bills for that phone. I have no idea how much I'm paying for my phone bill, because I don't see the bills, and I have no way to access them online. If you don't get bills, you're not paying for it. I'm paying for it. It's direct debit.

see the bills and I have no way to access them online. If you don't get bills, you're not paying for it. I'm paying for it. It's direct debit. So you can just look at it. The money is getting sucked out of my account every month for various different amounts and I have no way of seeing it unless I check my account. It's pretty bad, right? That's very bad. That's stupid.

I'm gonna get an iPhone next. Congratulations. Welcome to the club. You said, Gus, that you were disappointed with the iPhone 3GS camera. Yes. Welcome to the club. You said, Gus, that you were disappointed with the iPhone 3GS camera. Yes. Over the iPhone 2. It doesn't seem like the pictures are three megapixels. I don't know if there's a setting I need to adjust, but when I take a picture, they the exact same size as the picture. It's like 800 by 600. That's not three megapixels, is it? No, we did that the day you got it. That's the first thing you and I tested was to see

the pictures are different and they looked exactly the same as my regular old iPhone. Yeah, I mean, I can adjust where it's focusing and that's cool, I guess, but the pictures don't seem high enough resolution to me. That's very disappointing. The only reason I never got an iPhone is because of the shite camera on it.

Maybe I should do some work this. Maybe if I grab them through iTunes, it'll be different, I don't know. Gav's actually got a pretty cool phone because he has a phone that does video and will take it like how many frames per second? Yeah, my phone can shoot at 120 frames a second. So basically three and a half times slow motion. Yeah, depending on Power and TSC. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it's pretty cool. It's you need to do it in a lot of light otherwise It's dark and very useful. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've been out and want to take a slow motion video.

Much less just a regular old video. But it's the video on the 3JS is pretty cool. They've been able to edit and trim the video down. That's pretty cool but it is kind of blurry. Like I don't know if it adjusts the shutter speed depending on how much light is in the room. Yeah it does. Oh it does? Okay.

I guess every video I've seen has been in a quite dark room so it it's probably. It's okay. Like I said, we've you have tons of light. Yeah. Sunlight. I want to point something out and get away from this boring ass conversation we just got into. I want to say, and Jeff, you could probably back this up. I already backed it up. You get in a dumb situation with some kind of company that you're paying money to or like some kind of God forbid like city organization or like an ordinance or God forbid, like city organization, or like an ordinance or something like that, I am probably the best friend to have, because I will make fun of you for everything, except when someone's giving you administrative bullshit, and then I'm completely on your side.

That's true. Like, Jeff went, Jeff had went through something with this home order association, I'm like, yeah, fuck those people, fuck them all all I hate them because I hate I hate people who have like this mini school a little bit of Power the a some like bureaucratic horse shit and they just they get your life up with warms and garbage They could just they just take away hours of your life and there's nothing you can do Last week I mentioned that Griffin and I were talking about the maintenance of an American life and that's it It's the overhead of just dealing with too many fucking rules, man. Yeah. You know, that's coming up in this discussion of health care

and everything else is they're now discussing the possibility of having a national sales tax for everybody. And it's like, oh, that makes sense. You know, you just, you pay your taxes. Instead of having high income taxes, you just pay a national sales tax as somebody who owns a Business, I don't want to collect and pay another tax for everyone else. No, I'm sick of that. Do we already do it enough? It's just not it's people think it's invisible because they're just like, oh, I'm in a cash register and I just pay the tax

Well, there's a lot of effort that goes from that sales tax getting from that cash register to the government Yeah, absolutely. I'm looking end up paying the sales tax. And we're like, great, everything's good. Let's not lower income taxes after all. Oh, why would they? We're fucked, they were all living in California. I also say high property taxes, pay high sales tax, let's pay high income tax.

Fuck it. Why not? Why not? Why do I need money? I love new, it's creating problems. I got 18 eggs for free this week. I'm gonna go eat on my car for lunch. I love new homeowner guests.

God I have been so angry for the last three months and so... So, yeah it's garbage. And then speaking of bureaucratic shit, I wasted like an hour on hold when I moved to the new house. Because I was trying to add the electricity for the new... that account to the website. You know the city of Austin you can pay utilities online. Oh yeah. I was trying to add it electricity for the new, that account to the website, you know, the city of Austin, you can pay utilities online. Oh yeah. I was trying to add it and it wouldn't work. That's before my account number, that's before I source security number. It's like, so security numbers are wrong.

So I call, I call, I call, I spend an hour on the phone and they're like, oh, there's no social security number on your account. It's like, why the fuck isn't there one? I called you and set this up. I called you and set this up. I already had a fucking account. I'm sure actually I guess okay well let me give that okay no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no Xbox live arcade game best playing best okay selling single player Xbox live arcade game Which is what the fuck kind of a dubious? Honor you know because there aren't that many single player games right? And that's what they said in the right up I read on Kotaku or joystick

That's what they said this is like our multiplayer. This is like our show is the hottest new comedy on Thursday nights At 7 30 on the network. Yeah, yeah of the new shows this fall. I mean, it's a great game. Don't get me wrong but it sold 200,000 copies which seems too low for how good that game is. Yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait single player? Well, then you could say Pac-Man, Miss Pac-Man, Pac-Man CE. But you can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done- You can be done There's a multiplayer component that's like marble blasts is a multiplayer. Well, there's no, there actually is no qualification for it. I guess that's true. So we don't really know where they came up with this, you know, they released it on their own. It would just have to be, it would have to be a game with zero multiplayer. It's, it's a great game, by the way. It's a fantastic game.

I, when Gus was telling us about it, I was very standoffish about playing inside scrolling 3D game, but I've actually finished it now, and I have all the achievements in it. I think it's, I think it's a great game Yeah, I think it took me like five and a half hours five hours to finish it and it didn't feel like I played for that long Oh, yeah, it feels like I could run through it again It's got kind of a weird thing where it's Not quite 3D and is not 2D. So it's like it's 2 and a half D Which ends up having the one thing you don't want in a video game

which it has control issues sometimes where I'm doing what I think should make the guy point at the dude in the background but it's the opposite direction or something like that and that's the most frustrating thing in a game that in the platforming stuff where you're jumping from moving platform to moving platform. Fucking hate. I've been I, I've been asked you by the way, you went through and got the minimalist achievement, which is to play through the game, only collecting 13% of the items. Or less. Did do that.

How long did that take you to do? Because when you started in the office that night, and it seemed like you got through like a third of the game in 10 minutes. I want to say that took about two hours and 12 minutes of gameplay. I now have a run through that game. It's an hour and 15 minutes.

Hour and 15. And it's just running straight through the game on the lowest mode and not worrying about less collectibles or more collectibles just blazing through the game. Was that for an achievement? Was that just something you wanted to do? No, that was something it was sort of. It was on my way to get the level 50 achievement. And I normally don't grind achievements at all, but I was done with everything else in the game. And I was level 38 and so I was just trying to find a way to get the level 50. And normally in that case I just walk away from the game knowing that DLC will eventually

come down the pipe at some point and that I would just get level 50 during DLC play, which I should have done, but I was having fun. I like the game. It's the same. It's the same. There will be DLC. Well, if it's, you know, if the top-selling single-player arcade game in the month of November, you know, during a lunar solstice

I'm sure there will be a B DLC for an Xbox Live arcade game like that. Yeah, sure more levels. You can get up to 250 Achievements, thinking out of the 50 and you know what sucks about that is I just read that dice has no plans to make any DLC From out of 1943. I wouldn't I heard about that. I wouldn't that's too bad. I make another game. Not even more maps or anything. I wouldn't. They're already making another, they're gonna make a bad company too. But I don't know. It was kind of a one-off kind of a thing anyway. I think I also heard that the PC version of 1943 got pushed to next year. Yeah it's true. You're supposed to come out September this month, but I guess they said they're having trouble porting the frostbite engine of the PC. You know, you can do a thing on Xbox Live Arcade where you go to Game Marketplace, go to Arcade, search by all titles, so you get every title. And then you can sort your search by best sellers, so you can actually see the sales ranks of every game in Xbox Live Arcade.

I always say we do that same thing for DLC or rank DLC in there because I have a feeling that a lot of these games Especially on Xbox Live arcade that offer DLC. I think there's an extremely low take rate on it I really do I think there's a low take rate in general on Xbox Live arcade But I think DLC is very unpopular on arcade games for arcade specific games I mean I can I can tell you some games that have DLC and I looked for other people having those achievements and I'll find them the mall was one Had a lot of DLC with it marble blast ultra has DLC associated with it and that came out what Gavin like two and a half years after the game was out

Right, yeah, that's more you've got those achievements now, wouldn't you I do I just got the last one So you have 100% again in mobile I am now up to 48 completed games. Oh, and Jeff is here to vindicate me for the discussion. Let me do it. What are we what are we vindicating? They said last week that if you are counting the number of completed games you have on Xbox live or Xbox 360, you shouldn't count our K title. That's retarded. Thank you. I wasn't saying you shouldn't count them. I was saying it should just be a different. Yeah, it's a different level and a different amount of time. I don't think it's a different level or a different amount of time.

I was trying to get 200 points in Battlefield 1943, so I calculated. No, I need to get, no let me talk, dickhead. So you have to play, the final achievement I need is to play 100 games of Battlefield 1943. I figured out how much time that takes. That alone takes 24 hours. I can count on two hands how many thousand point games I've beaten in alone takes 24 hours. I can count on two hands how many thousand point games I've beaten in less than 24 hours. But it's the same with every other billion. A retail game will set achievements over, they'll take you a long time to do.

You and me. I'm right here with you. I got you. Let me ask you a question. Okay, alright. It's a good point. Alright. A retail game will set achievements that will make you play the game a few times over so it takes a long time to do it And you get a sense a lot of them will you'll have a sense of completion and like yeah, I've done it after you've got a thousand points And arcade game will have a load of shit easier cheamers and then like one Now that's a two and then one that just takes a long time for no reason I don't know what a completely shadow complex makes you play that game through four actually that that's that's a shame that that game I need can have two under, because that's a very

very in-depth arcade game. Here's the problem with the discussion that we had last week. Is that these guys are all saying that they're following the trap that it's worthless points. Therefore, it shouldn't count the same. Right. I went and looked, none of these guys have any arcade games. No, I'm not saying they shouldn't count the same. I'm saying they do count the same.

This should just be a category. Yeah, it should be different. Aligned down the middle. It's like retail games here are Arcade. I agree with that. Why draw the distinction? Just so you can see because they're not the same. I'm not what what two types of games are there for Facebook's retail and arcade That should be I mean come on No, what are you saying you don't agree with that? It's unnecessary if they were if they were going to be held on equal footing Why don't why don't K games have a thousand points?

Why are they different? Because people would buy the arcade games in preference over the retail to get more gamer scores. Why not? That's why if in your mind they're equal why why should there be a distinction? They're not an equal price. Mm-hmm. I don't know. So not an equal price because if you're gonna get a there's they're probably protecting the point scheme of game Score which I don't care about at all, but there are some people that do and if you could buy four games for the price of a retail game and Get 4,000 points you can see why people would do that. Yeah, that's why they're worth exactly what they're worth It's because they're they're very in price range what about $10 so you get about an equal number of gamer points For playing these thing or gamer score What the hell it's called? That's retarded. So how come that a game worth 400 points

We'll get 200 points of achievements and a game worth 1600 points Microsoft. You got these different words Yeah, like 400 Microsoft points to buy will get you 200 game of score Yeah, and a game that is six 1600 Microsoft points We'll get this game out for two or three you could also get on the best by right now and buy a fucking Some games the game in the bargain been for eight dollars and still go a thousand points. Oh Fucking burned yeah, they go stuff goes to platinum I see how quickly I turn on you know by the orange box right now best by for twenty dollars Go do it right now, gaff go buy it right now. I've already got like it. No go buy another

That's like 20 quids DLC DLC for not okay again. We'll get you 50 extra points, right? already got like a no go buy another so it's like 20 quids dlc dlc for an arcade game we'll get you 50 extra points right yeah up to 250 or you can put in Halo 3 and go and punch someone in the back three times that's 50 points all right so your point is the retail game is easier I think it's stupid to pay it's stupid to pay money for such a stupid amount of points 50 points nothing you see I wouldn't buy a day.O.C. for an arcade game. Are you paying for the 50 points? Hey, do you see your logic?

Are you having that self? Do you see what's happening here? What's happening? You just make eating its own tail. Where you going with this? You fucked yourself there. You get a hold, dude. Are you paying for achievements?

Are you paying for the fun of playing the additional deal? This whole conversation is down to the fact that I don't like arcade games. That's pretty much it. That's was my point of trying to make last week. These guys don't play them. You know, I don't like how cake games cause they're worth nothing.

You gotta listen to guys like Jeff and guys like me who have actually played them and beat them, both of them. I beat an outcake game, Cloning Clive. I beat it. It was it, it was it easy? Took me like a day, yeah.

And how many retail games have you beat? Three. Is that true? Yeah, then has 100% it. Four games, Cloning Clive and three other games. That's it. You're using you use your benchmark for difficult as your hardest one your hardest one arcade is cloning Clyde your hardest one in retail is oblivion. That was very long. It wasn't hot it was just long.

Yeah very long and it sucked. That's what she said. Then she egged my car. Some Marines looking for us? No, it's my laptop. It's something that's running on a... Shall we talk about Snow Leopard? Do you want to talk about that, Turg? What do you want?

It's a... Why are people so goddamn excited about an OS upgrade? When you install it, you'll see if it works. It's not like a service pack where nothing happens. I had some... I had some ringing endorsement of the OS. If it works, I had some fucking problems had some ringing endorsement of the OS. I had some working problems. I had four attempts to install that.

I could go three-ch one. It was a different problem each time. I've installed it twice on my desktop and my laptop and had no problems either. This is why I put me. I put the disk in. I didn't have enough hard drive space. I had like three gigs and you need five,

so I cleared out some space. That's not Apple's problem. Yeah, that's my problem. And then I put the disk in and started installing. Then it stopped and rebooted and I had two gigs left. So it had installed something, but I didn't know where, and I couldn't install it again. So I had to re-delete some more stuff.

Then it rebooted and didn't complete the installation because the disc was dirty. And then in the end, I gave up and it spat the disc out. I was like, fuck this, I'm going home. And I opened my laptop again and it had installed. I opened it up and it was like here's snow leopard I didn't even think it worked, but it did it took me four goes and it's great. It's a speed machine with me I was upgrading from leopard I put the disk in double clicked to you know to do the install and

It started installing went through like the progress bar So it's like the install was like 35% done then it said error then it's put the disk out and rebooted Yeah, it was like that's weird Then my laptop wouldn't boot up anymore to the desktop. So then I had to put the disk back in. I tried to do the upgrade again. It said error again. Spit the disk back out. So then I had to put the installer back in.

I had to use disk utility and format my hard drive. God damn it. To totally erase everything. And then I did a fresh install and it worked. And then I had a time machine backup. So I just restored for my time machine backup. So totally erase everything and then I did a fresh install and it worked and then I had a time machine backup so I just restored from my time machine backup so everything worked. So if you reform your driving and then get everything back from a time machine backup, do you actually lose anything? No I don't lose anything.

So it's just like nothing happened. Like right before I did the install I did one final time machine backup to be safe. Yeah. Which thank god I did. I'd have been so fucking mad. How do you get the disc out of a MacBook? Because the disc was stuck in my MacBook for 20 minutes. I was just there hitting a jacked over and over again.

I just haven't conversation just tapping it. In 20 minutes it came out. Like, is there a shortcut to get it out? No. Not tweezers, I guess. Tweezers. But ever since, but you know, I did have some installation difficulties,

but since then it's been great. It's a hell of hell of a lot faster freed up ton of disc space. Yeah, I think I got like 10 or 12 gigs freed up Did you really I feel like I lost this space? I don't know how I'm like the only one I I swear I had 80 gigs free when I started the install and now I have 72 gigs was it on your desktop my laptop your laptop I don't know I could be wrong about that. I may have misread it, but I was almost positive that's what I had. So weird. But it doesn't matter, because it's super fast now. And Safari is fucking speed demon.

It's awesome. Right? Speed demon. Speed demon? You should join us burning. You should upgrade. I haven't created. I actually installed it.

I just know everything's say about the OS upgrade. I will say though, the way that Gavin said the disk was dirty, it's kind of hot. I don't know. So don't get anything to say about it. Oh, I subgrade. I will say though the the way that Gavin said the disc was dirty It's kind of hot So don't get me say that Say it again. Say it again. Come on. I'm not saying it. We'll give me when you say it that rewind the podcast to hear that again You can be the drunk taste hot for words say it again. Say it wants for me say for the girls in the audience and the girls in the room come on Can you say it with your shirt off? That's for the ladies.

What shirt is off? Gross. Here, take a drink out of this soda. Now say it while you gargle. I'll take one too. Oh, I'll take a big red. Died Dr. Pepper, please. Let's talk shit about him, one.

All right. Gavin, you don't get a drink. Hey, I need a big red. See, only reason I like being in this country. I'm going to get a drink. I'm going to get a drink. I'm going to get a drink. I'm gonna drink. I'll take one two. Hey, let's take a big red die Dr. Pepper, please Let's let's talk shit about him one. All right, Gavin. You don't get a drink. Hey, I need a big red See the only reason I like being in this country Are you are you only been drinking the big red? Yeah big red? I think I had like three of them yesterday I'd won how far outside of Texas can you get big red like how what's its reach? I don't know

I'm right We'll have to I'll have to ask Wikipedia after this podcast figure it out Let's just hope we can let's just hope the big red corporation never pissed off any Wikipedia moderate We'll have to ask Wikipedia after this podcast to figure it out. Let's just hope the big red corporation never pissed off any Wikipedia moderators. I wonder what celebrity cases of big red are. Thanks man. Thanks sir. We've already broken Gus's no food rule for me in the podcast.

If you're going to drink just drink away from the microphone. If you think big red is food, you actually are becoming the American. Hey, speaking of food, we took Gavin and Ben this weekend to the Salt Lake, which is a very popular, very famous barbecue restaurant, Southwest of Austin, and Gavin ate his body weight in barbecue and then spent the next two days throwing out. It was awesome.

I have the four pounds of barbecue. The food was so delicious, I didn't get forward, I just kept eating until I could feel the food stopping higher and higher up inside my chest. And I was like, I should stop eating. And then Griffin and Jeff both gave me their dessert. So I had a pie and some cobbler. Hey, let me answer this question right now.

Griffin, we had a little fight about it. Griffin had the pecan pie, and I had the blackberry cobbler. Which one was better? They were both equally good. She fucking... You are silly. And they both came out first. The Blackberry Cobbler is best out there.

It's an unbelievable. That's the first one. I hate to say both came out first. And yeah, so I threw up a lot to the point where I was completely empty. And then I drank a glass of water and had some Pepto Bismol, which is great by the way. It tastes great. And then I drank a glass of water and had some Pepto Bismol, which is great, by the way, it tastes great. And then I threw up some pink wool water, so... You know, I once went to the Salt Lake about 10 years ago, and we were all out there eating, and for some reason,

I was the only person who ate the beans. I don't know why. No one else wanted to eat the beans. I had some. And then later that night, I got back to my apartment, and I got really sick. I guess I had food poisoning. I ran to the bathroom and I threw up a lot I remember as I was throwing up I felt a whole bean like an unto bean come up out of my nose and And I remember it was the most pleasant throwing up experience I've ever had because like the barbecue sauce was so good that like it's still tasted good coming back up Fucking hey dude. This is worse than the

Death video segment you had to cut last week. He was so excited about it He called me like this later was like I think I've got food poisoning. I'm so sick. I should have been out my nose It was delicious. Yeah, like the the bathroom smell fantastic smell like the barbecue sauce and like the toilet looked like the barbecue something was I was gonna say but because none of the food I ate had actually reached my stomach yet It was just untouched like in the night I woke up and threw up in one of my t-shirts because I I stay up in Jeff's loft in his little outhouse And there's no bathroom in there so I was like shit

I'm gonna throw up. I don't wanna throw up on the bed on the carpet, so I grabbed a t-shirt, I climbed down the ladder as I was throwing up into this t-shirt, threw it outside. In the morning I went to like go and clean it off, it was just mashed potato. It looked like just someone had put mashed potato in one of my t-shirts.

All right. Wow. Bernie is mortified. I am, this is worse than the discussion we had a few weeks ago about all the nerdy lightsaber stuff. Hey, I think Bernie's just upset that we've been wasting food. Let me ask you question, Peter. Perfectly good food, Peter.

I'm on the ground. Here we come. What, uh, what was the best thing at Salt Lake? The problem is that- Just counting the dessert. The sauce. Now that I just made it, now that I just laughed at a joke that Gus made at the end of that,

now who keep the whole fucking segment in, just to get to that one validation You won't be able to give it up all he'll include just a joke with no reference to any previous conversation Hey, when you ended the podcast you do it to what it's true. I'll do it. Why do you say mashed potato and I'm mashed potato? Potato I don't know tomato So you say mashed tomatoes? Well, I wouldn't say tomato because that just sounds weird right coming from me But you say potato potato. Yeah, hmm Well, it's all falling apart fucking inconsistent. Are you even British lies are coming out aluminum?

Why do you say aluminum you spell it aluminum right? Yeah, sometimes do you spell it? Sodium or do you spell it sodium? We spell potassium or potassium? how out of they all work aluminum ends at NUM Sodium ends in IUM idiot. So does that? Medium ends in IUM aluminum No, you know, he's right the element is is aluminium, but what we use I'm like aluminum foil Oh, that makes sense. Sorry, guess I was wrong. What do you have makes more sense? Any references of me being right about anything yeah as long as you laugh at this joke you leave a part about him being so should we get back and actually talk about packs we were gonna do that like

an hour ago yeah maybe we should talk about since we're on topics of news and vomiting and all that stuff maybe we should talk about Disney buying Marvel oh we can definitely talk about that so that's kind of a so Disney bought Marvel What do you think about that? You know, I was thinking about that last night before went to bed and four billion dollars I think Marvel should have gotten more money. I think yeah, I think more Disney got a fucking good deal, right? Yeah, cuz I think there's like dollars. I was like well, you know I started my head trying to think about it. Ironman came out last year and made what, over 300 million.

Spider-Man. Well, I'm just going off of that. You know, $12, 300 million movies, they made their money back. It's kind of weird though, because Marvel then also, they have separate deals where they publish all that through like Paramount makes the lion's share of, what is it, Iron Man, right?

Sony gets all the Spider-Man money, and I think Warner Brothers is X-Men? X-Men is through someone else as well. And they already have all these deals in place. They were talking about it in PRS yesterday that Disney won't immediately see the benefits of all those because they're gonna have to wait till all those deals can be restructured until they can,

like all the A-materials are already licensed out to other distribution methods. I mean, they'll still get some money because Marvel's still in their cut But it's not like it's not the immediate slender. You think it is. I mean, but they're gonna have that they'll also have you know video game sales as well Oh, absolutely, man Marvel's video game sales do really well. I don't know if anyone still buys them, but they might have comic sales as well somewhere I think the comics for Marvel are just an incubator for like to figure out which video game and moving to make at this point really And that's really make all the cash. I think I think the comics from Marvel are just an incubator for like to figure out which video game and moving to make at this point really And that's really make all the cash. I think I think Disney

Got a good deal. I think they they they they that commission of North a lot more. Yeah, I agree. What do you think Bernie? Well, I'm curious now how much of like what percentage of the modern American Characters does Disney now own the fuck it's a a lot right? I mean if you if you take Disney And they have Pixar and now they have Marvel is it Is it overestimating to say they have about 40% of the original modern day American characters? Hmm, I don't know. Marvel has 5,000 characters in their lineup That's a lot. It's a lot of crap in there too, but yeah. I mean, they basically have every superhero

that anyone gives a shit about, except for Batman and Superman. But here's what I keep coming back to when I think about it. It sounds cool, because we all know the name Disney. We all know the name Marvel. But what's your best vision for what's gonna come out of this? Like a Pixar Avengers movie? That doesn't even sound right.

No, I think that I don't know that you'll see anything new come out of it. What I read was that essentially, Marvel's gonna benefit just from Disney's global reach and be able to expand into other markets and then Disney will just benefit by that on the other end. But I don't know that you'll see a lot of like, I don't think you're gonna see Peter Pan

and Iron Man team up. Well, here's something else to think about. Like if they, I don't think they'll gonna see Peter Pan and Iron Man team up. Well, here's something else to think about. Like, if they, I don't think they'll take Marvel into a younger direction, but remember at Comic Con, we saw that, like, that game based on that cartoon that's coming out. Yeah. With like all the Marvel, like the small Marvel superheroes

living in superhero city and all the villains living in the villain city next door. That was awesome. I wonder if we'll see more stuff like that now. We might. Disney trying to skew to a younger audience. Also, I guess a big reason why Disney bought Marvel villain city next door and that was why I wonder if we'll see more stuff like that now we might you know with Disney trying to skew to a younger audience also I guess a big reason why Disney bought Marvel is that the one area that they lack in is like the teenage male audience they've got girls locked down with all the fairy shit and then like the Jonas Brothers and Hannah Montana and all that but yeah

the Disney doesn't Disney doesn't have a good in with young boys. And that's not a creepy thing. Who would have, like, a Vino see-dirted. But this is gonna give him that. Don't do it. Well, you know, when you say stuff like Marvel's gonna benefit from Disney's global reach, I keep hearing stuff like that. And I just, I just wanna say,

hasn't anybody heard of the goddamn internet? No, no. Like, if Iron Man was gonna be popular in Japan, wouldn't they have picked them up by now? I guess it's just distribution deals. I don't know. Is that what it is? Yeah, I mean I get I get frustrated by that like I I'm a really online I read a lot of other people who make online content and there was somebody who made the weirdest statement Just kind of threw it out there in a blog or or Twitter or something like that where they said I just wrapped up shooting my new web series pilot

I think it's gonna be good. I hope they like it. It's like, what the hell is a web series pilot? And who is they? Yeah, you're shooting a pilot to show it to someone before you put it on the internet. And something I just don't understand about this generation of content producers on the internet is why are people trying to take the one thing that's incredible about the internet, which is a flat world where you can distribute to anybody, and they're trying to get jobs on sites, you know, to get productions done. It makes no sense. It makes no sense at all. It's like taking what doesn't work about the old system and trying to layer it over the top of the internet. It makes no sense at all makes no sense it's like these um people get agents there's now web agents do you know that yes I do what the hell is that what do

they do they like broker a domain name deal for you or what's going on it's no it's it's confusing as hell they'll broker a good banner ad for you punch a monkey or something is that what is that are these agents selling ads and doing that kind of stuff I don't know but I would assume it's ads you think so yeah I mean what the fuck else are they kind of stuff? I don't know, but I would assume it's ads. You think so? Yeah, I mean, what the fuck else are they doing? I'm gonna, I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

We allow a look behind the curtain. It ain't that hard to do this stuff. Like, the parts that, I think, like what you're saying, like people shoot pilots, they want to show someone. I think they don't know how to make a website or like, they don't want, they want to have more than like a YouTube page

and they were like, oh, we'll just, you know, hand it over toGN network or some other big conglomerate let them worry about all that stuff Am I crazy to say that's the easy part? Serving video is not the hardest part of the equation Yeah, the hardest part of the equation is making something that people want to watch You know telling people about it or buying an ant banner ad or selling a banner ad if that's the way you want to support your thing that's not the hard part at all I don't understand it I I guess maybe I don't think we're geniuses you know and we're able to do that stuff I mean I see people with stuff on YouTube and stuff on iTunes that's a good way to get it out there but you know how about you build a goddamn web page maybe we don't understand because we don't have a web agent

I think uh I think the world is old school I think we've all just been using the internet way longer than most people. Yeah. And I think we're all just thought more comfortable with it. Come on. The internet's a very different place than it was when we started Run versus Blue. And we started all our dumb websites like trunk gamers and ugly internet. I guess so. I guess yeah, I guess everyone now makes it. No one makes a home page. Everybody makes a Myspace entry. You know, or our MySpace or Facebook. Yeah, what are the kids using these days? I don't even know on MySpace.

I'm even outdated on the outdated stuff. Yeah, I guess, I guess if somebody can make a homepage on Twitter. So I've had Twitter now for about, you can just make me to sign up. I've had it for about eight weeks. I think I've made 10 tweets the whole time. I discovered the only reason to have Twitter

is for ship my dad says. It's pretty funny. It's fucking funny. Fucking hilarious. And I'll watch that dude's, I watch that dude's, he gets like another 40,000 followers a day. I need to follow that guy. It's really funny.

If any of you guys have not checked it out, you should definitely go look at it. Well, that's what, man, that's what's really cool about anything that gets big on the internet is to see how people start to use it as its own performance space. That's, to me, about anything that gets big on the internet is to see how people start to use it as its own Performance space. That's to me. That's fun You know like when people had web pages and then we'd start to see like crazy web pages going up like do you remember bonsai

Kiddies? Oh, yeah, or bonsai kittens. Yeah, God. That was a great sight You don't see stuff like that very much anymore, you know And so it's cool to see like a feed on Twitter like shit my dad says because it's just it's it's entertaining Until itself. Yep, you know, it's not people telling you constantly how entertaining they are So I brought the conversation how this happened so we got packs coming up They vent runs Friday to Sunday will be in booth 3012 of which is I believe is in the parking lot Okay, so a pack or any of you guys on panels at packs? Just the Roosteries one and that is what time?

6 p.m. Saturday and for the the packs panel. We've got three videos to show We definitely have two done and we're working on the third one. Yeah, yeah, we haven't we haven't locked it down a hundred percent yet So and they're all very cool videos. Are they I think so awesome? Well, you know the live action when we're showing. Yeah, I do. We're excited about that one. Yeah, and then we got an episode of Reverse Blue, which should be exciting.

Let's hope so. Gavin can get off his ass and finish it. And then stop it. And then another special video. Last year was the packs was the first place we showed the RVB animated project. Yes, indeed. Which is an ever-engoing development. Yes.

It's a much longer process to do stuff for television than it is for the web. I don't think we're going to show animated again at PAX. Are we? We might just have it playing a plane of booth. Yeah, you guys want, if you're the head and seen it, they can come by the booth and see the animated concept piece

that we did. We can't really show anything else right now, but we can show the concept piece. Because that's been clear But everything else. I don't know we'll talk to our web agent to be able to say about that So what packs is this the sixth packs? What happened? We had a great podcast going on here. Everything just fell apart What happened ever also nobody's got anything to talk about hey? This is the sixth packs Gus

That's what you're about to say, right? We've been to every single Pax. Yeah, yeah. What was your favorite stuff? Every Pax. I think my favorite was the last one in Maidenbauer, which I think was Pax number three. Yeah. Because it was so fucking crowded.

Like, you couldn't move anywhere. And that's the year that they had the ball. And they have the all-hale ball shirt because of it. Oh, yeah. And if anybody saw that besides me. I don't know what the ball or all hail ball is I like you know It made bower had like on that bottom floor was kind of open. Yeah, and everyone's sitting there I guess like everyone was waiting for a concert and like no one could move because it was so crowded and then someone just dropped like a beach ball from the top floor and That was ball. Oh everyone started chanting all hail ball. Wow, I'm a must-a-miss dead part of Pax folklore.

It was really weird. I think the first one might be my favorite just because that was when the Hall State opened 24 hours and kids were just asleep everywhere all over the place. And stealing bags first. Jesus. That was nuts. The problem with that is that is where I set my mind that packs is the stinkiest con that we go to oh man Because that first year really nobody went nobody left and so people really started to smell

Right the the gaming rooms with the PCs were the worst like because that would like you would walk back over there in that direction in the main Bower and it's like I don't know There wasn't ventilation or air wasn't circulating back there and then people had been sitting there because it was open 24 hours People would not move from those seats and it fucking stank back there. You couldn't get within 50 feet of the door with that smell and it was pretty bad. They fixed that shit real fast though. You know that stink problems anymore. Not a problem anymore.

Nope. They're sold out this year. They sold out? Yeah, you cannot get a bad for packs. How many badges they sell? I don't know. I don't know. What was the attendance last year? It's 58,000 I think. 50,500 was the official sell? I don't know. I don't know. What was the attendance last year?

It's 58,000 I think. 50,500 was the official attendance? I don't remember, but I think this year, they expanded the space that they're using over the last year as well. Like now they're using the entire convention center and they still sold out. They sold out this past weekend.

Is this the first year to sell out? No, it's sold out at Maidenbow. It's the first year to sell out at the New Look here. Okay, wow. It just gets bigger and bigger and bigger. So what do the penny arcade guys actually do at packs? They have panels Is that is that they roll around on giant mountains of money? No gave and Tico are Amazing in front of a crowd. It's like a weird skill that they have that they don't really get the showcase that often

But if you watch some of like child's play For the auction or any of their panels at But if you watch some of like Childs play for the auction or any of their panels at CMA packs, they are unbelievably eloquent in front of a crowd. Funny. Whenever they do the charity dinner auctions, they're always fucking on fire. Yep. Yeah. And then we should go to Childs play dinner again this year because we haven't been for like the last two years.

At least I haven't been last two years. So. Alright. Gus booked go. So. All right. Gus booked the plane tickets. We're going Seattle. Here we come. See you there. So are there any exclusives at Pax Gaming? I think it'll be the first time that you'll

be able to see Knights of the old reputl- no, not Knights of the Old reputl- Star Wars the Old reputl- Star Wars the Old reputl- The new, a new Left for Dead map is going to be shown there. Left 4 Dead 2 map. Left 4 Dead 2 map. It's going to be shown there.

I don't know what other exclusives are going on. There's a bunch of other stuff though, I think. Yeah, there's a bunch of other stuff. Like, there'll be Starcraft 2 playable. Last year Bethesda had that awesome Fallout setup with the trailer. Not that it's so cool. Yeah, all the dummies. Yeah, you can go inside and play Fallout last year before. There'll be tons of games that it's so cool. Yeah, all the dummies. Yeah, you go and play Fallout Laster before you.

There'll be tons of games that you can play before. You know, the came out. It's just, it's cool. You think Mass Effect 2 will be there? I don't know. Well, if they're showing the old Republic, you think they would show Mass Effect 2, right? That has a launch date.

That's coming out way sooner. I started playing Mass Effect. Again, just because I want to finish it before Mass Effect 2 comes out. I don't know anything about that storyline at all Are you enjoying it? I it's okay. Yeah, I mean I don't want to be I'm early on and you know I kind of bash shadow complex and fall out three when I had just started playing them and I don't want to make that same mistake again with Mass Effect, but I'm getting into it

It's taking a little bit more time. So did you not did you play it before and then stop or is this the first time you're going through? I have played it before and stopped I had to restart because I didn't remember anything about mass effect I've watched people play that and it looks Which is the biggest game on Xbox like physically the biggest Area in a game living and I think we just talked about one where they had the biggest environment ever Got again a book or a record for that was fuel fuel was at it fuel. Yeah, it's a racing game But that was I don't know if it was the biggest environment or biggest racing environment I can't remember but oblivion is supposedly twice as big as fallout three

Yeah, I thought three fucking huge. So how long would it take to walk from the furthest edges of oblivion? Has anyone done that you tell us you played the game? I don't remember anything about the game I can tell you miserable in fuel There's an achievement to get from the top left corner of the map to the bottom right corner And then another one to get from the top right corner to the bottom left corner and they estimate that that takes like Two to three hours of driving. Oh my god. Forget about it. You're doing continuously Yeah, you mean you have to sit there and do it. Yeah, it's a thing to do it. You got to drive What you have some point at a point B? Wow, it's kind of it's kind of a cool achievement

But I don't know I don't know if I like that. I wonder how long do you think it would take to walk and fall out Bernie from like The same thing from the far upper left of the map to the far lower right man. I don't know. I don't know if I like that. I wonder how long do you think it would take to walk and fall out Bernie from like The same thing from the far upper left of the map to the far lower right man. I don't know I take a good long while they built in the fast travel into that game I really don't know I would see probably an hour and a half to walk it. Hmm. I guess I don't know You'd be fighting the whole way through to you know I didn't find out it's very subtle But I didn't find out until much later and fall out 3 that if you lower your weapon you move a lot faster Yes, and it's if you can't really tell really, but it makes a big difference

Really? I didn't know you could even lower your weapon. Yeah, you hit X. Huh? It's a blue button. Man, I can't wait for you to go back to England You can find it out of there. So I can start playing Fallout again I don't know about the Jeff figures that had to play a game constantly after he's finished like the other day We beat gears of War 1 on insane and afterwards Jeff was like well What what we do understand and I was like it's blind firing? It's when you're behind cover and you just pull the trigger And you just lean the gun over and shoot and you're like I didn't know you could do that I've never found blind firing the bill helpful in the game. I will do it. I tell you what the last shot on general ram

I blind fire sniped him in the face and it killed him. How cool is that? Well the torquebo was pretty impressive. Wow. It is true that I can't believe that actually happened to you again Does that happen to fall down? It happens a lot of you have it in crackdown We need to know you could lock on because I'm impatient and I don't like to go through tutorials or Twice's lump if you don't have to do it in his defense Bernie did not know how to fire more than once and fall out through Yeah, it's gonna be It changed the game for me. It changed the game for me. It changed the game for me. It changed the game for me.

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It changed the game for me. It changed the game for me. It changed the game for me. It changed the game for me. It changed the game for me. That being said when I played Fallout and they taught me about that so I paid attention. Do you know you know what I did I actually killed the there's some like roach tutorial and I killed I killed the roach like I'm a first shot And so I didn't queue up more than one thing. So you're saying you're so good And that's why you're stupid. Yeah, I'm better than I'm better than the level that's required to finish the tutorial I'm better than that. That's what I can say that with confidence But the that's what I'm thinking about mass effect I think there's something fundamental about Mass Effect that I don't understand how it's played. But once again, we're talking about old games, you know.

But I'm only playing it because Mass Effect 2 is about to come. When does Mass Effect 2 come out of October? I come out this year. I don't know. I don't know. I have no idea. A very cool thing about Mass Effect 2 is that the lead of Cinematics is a guy who was very big

in the machine in the world. He's still big, but he's obviously got a full-time job doing cinematics for Bioware now. Paul Moreno, a guy who was very helpful to us in our early days of machine-a-ma. He ran the Academy of Machine-a-Mor arts and sciences. Yep, if you're friends with him you can call him Pimo. Pimo. Pimo. And he lives in Austin now, not that we ever see him because he works like 22 hours a day on that stuff. Yeah, if you if you follow him on Twitter, his Twitter's are constantly at work. Like, you must get to work at 4 a.m. and then leave work at 2 a.m.

Yeah. Bamboo, people who make video games, they work very, very, very hard. Very hard. Yeah, no doubt. And he's always like rendering or doing software, you know, waiting for software or doing something. Yeah. It's insane insane the amount of work.

One thing I'm hoping that'll happen is, you know, video game revenue start to climb is that they will just expand the number of people who work on these games. You know what? I read yesterday that, oh fuck, I'm going to say this without citing an exact source, but someone for an EA was talking about how much more it costs to make games these days and he said that nowadays the marketing budget for a game can be triple the production budget. Is that true? Wow. Wow. That's not good. That's not good. That's unfucking believable. I'll find the name and do an appropriate citation when I get in the link dump. Well, you know, I mean marketing makes

a huge difference especially in games but we were talking about earlier this week, we were talking about this movie Delgo that came out. And apparently the people that are that made Delgo, which is some animated movie that came out in like 90 or 2005 or four or something like that, they're going to sue Avatar because they feel it looks too similar. And then we can post some screenshots that somebody put together of shots from the Avatar trailer that are look like they're right out of delgo. And they're really just shots that can be in any movie you've ever seen. I mean, right. You got 90 minutes of shots. You can make anything look similar, right? Well, they are using the trailer from Avatar. They're using sampling, but- Yeah, but they haven't seen the movie. They don't know. Yeah. sampling but yeah but they haven't seen the movie they don't know yeah right and I said well how can you how can you possibly sue it's like you know these

are standard shots and yeah it looks a little bit similar the reason they can sue is that when they made Delgo they spent 40 million dollars on it and they made in theaters they made something like four hundred thousand dollars back that's in ticket sales I never even heard of that movie. Yeah, it's there. I mean, it's a movie that came out and it's got, I think it's got the record for losing the most amount of money for the number of theaters that it opened in. It was well over 2,000 theaters that it opened in.

And it had a pretty big cast, too, right? Yeah, like Freddie Prinz, Jr. And it's like, if you've lost $40 million on a project, you'll sue anybody you can. Oh, absolutely, yeah. I I mean when you invest in a movie You think well we'll get back 50% of our money maybe or 10% of our money Perhaps they lost 40 they lost all their money. I mean if you if you only make back a couple hundred thousand dollars on 40 million dollars You've lost all your money. Yeah, and they made one percent back

Do you think that that movie even went to DVD? Or at that point where they're like, it's a good question. Where's they gonna get the money to put on DVD? Why don't I sink any more cash in it? Some of the nobody's gonna look. How does that happen? How can a movie make so little money? It must be marketing. No, nobody knew about it, right? I'd never heard of it. You've never heard of it. Yeah. It was a $40 million movie. A $40 million movie. More than District 9. Yeah, and fuck, if we and District 9, I've seen everywhere the market for it, you know, so that's what I was getting And I said marketing becomes so important. Okay, here it is. Delgo

Released it says December 12 2008. I'm sorry 2008 What it is in more recent It was a $40 million production budget this all according to box office mojo.com and it made $694,000. Christ. How many theaters did it open in? 2,160 theaters. Oh my.

That's a pretty big fucking release. So it made like eight cents a theater. So did they just literally put it in the movie theaters and then say, well that's it? It made a $237 average per theater. Oh, God. I mean, you can do the quick math on that, divide that by eight. It's like 40 people per theater per weekend.

How long was an theater per hour? It's like two people for screening. What? How long was an theater per hour? I can't imagine long. I mean, that's a 2000 theater release. They're dropping it out of the stuff fast. Yeah, you know, Box Office Module only has one weekend worth of money.

Man, that's, God damn. You wonder, like whoever the producer was at that film. He did he commit suicide after that Who knows who I mean who knows like at what point you $1 million you threw it in a fucking lake, right? I mean that you can get into things where you say that theatrical release is nothing more than a promotion for the DVD release sure Those are not two thousand theater releases. Those are like 150 theater releases. Okay. Let's think conspiracy theory angle now. Now that I know that that movie didn't come out until December 2008, is it possible someone

was working on the Avatar movie and thought I'll just take 40 million dollars, we'll make this movie, we won't promote it, we'll just put it out there, it'll be like Avatar, then when Avatar comes out, we'll sue them and we'll make more than we could have made it in a theatrical run. I have no idea. I don't think you'd be casting listen to this. It'll be like Avatar that when Avatar comes out we'll sue them and we'll make more than we could have made A theatrical run I have no idea. I don't think you'd be casting listen to this Lauren Bacall Freddie prince junior and Val Kilmer while I learned that movie Okay, I don't know I said Lauren Bacall what's wrong with me and bandcroft? I don't know why I said Lauren Bacall okay Yeah, it's nuts who's Ann Bancroft. I don't know why I said Lord Bacall. Okay. Yeah, it's nuts. Who's that Bancroft?

Yeah, Bancroft. She was in Delgo? And Bancroft, I'm looking up for you. I'm saying you're not going to go out and cast name people to do stuff like that. And I look it up at IMDB, not too. But, you know, marketing is a big deal. So what I'm hoping for is that as games grow and games make a ton more money, they can add in more people and

God forbid have games come out faster, you know, I liked it left for dead to is coming out already I know a lot of people are complaining about that. It's crazy that people complain about that. Yeah, I'm still to understand that tool Dude, but while while we're on the subject to the movie stuff we'll get to play better packs Oh, you know what else I think we're gonna play Assassin's Creed 2 and maybe modern warfare 2 those are both going to I'm excited about Assassin's Creed 2. I love that game. Yeah, Assassin's Creed is even like collecting stuff I did it all hell yeah, dude. It was awesome But what which movie spent the most amount of money on marketing? Is that a stat that we know? Like a lot of times they hide it. Yeah, we we just read something about that. What was a Harry Potter?

I don't I don't really anything fuck I can't read anything. Fuck, I can't read. And, Bancroft, you know her best as Mrs. Robinson from the graduate. That's why he recognized the name probably. Look up the production. Can you look up the new Harry Potter movie on box office mojo running? I seem to remember something about Harry Potter

costing like close to a billion dollars between the money they spend on it and the production and then advertising. And why do you need to advertise the new Harry Potter movie like number six people are gonna watch number six? I have seen it. Yeah, really yeah, I want to I'm a huge Harry Potter fan. I just haven't had the time You know, it's a big deal with what a contract is that marketing money is a big big deal But Harry Potter also it's made I think it's made 300 million in the US and then like another 800 million overseas a lot of it is So self-serving though, too you will never see

Any more movie billboards than you will in Los Angeles. Yep every other billboard in Los Angeles is is based is a movie Yeah, the first time went to LA. I was shocked I never thought about that until I went there for the first time you know 10 years ago Whenever it was it every billboard you're not kidding. Yeah, remember at the time I went, Mulan Rouge was about to open. Every fucking billboard was a Mulan Rouge billboard. You will see movies advertising Los Angeles that you don't even know existed in the show of their movies and TV shows and God knows what else. Yeah, and that's so self-serving.

They want to see their own billboards up. Yeah, they want to see their own billboards and they want their competition to see the billboards. Can we do a quick analysis on numbers real quick? Sure, okay Shadow complex sold 200,000 copies. Yeah, and we figured out that it's 15 bucks a pop so that's three million dollars Three million dollars in total not accounting like a royalty cut or whatever I think the rumor is that that for video games there they get about two thirds back So supposedly so then they would they would the developer got two million on that. Two million dollars. That's a very complex game.

Do you think two million dollars is enough to support that game? I mean, if it's the biggest hit there is on Xbox live arcade single player released. Who knows? Is it somewhere? Whatever it is. I think it's impossible to say without knowing more about the studio. Like do we know if it was like five dudes working on it or, you know, is it a big company? Yeah.

We've looked before. But Cher, right? Right. Now, is Cher an offshoot of Epic? I don't know. Or did they license the engine from Epic? Because that's a big price tag. The engine is definitely using the Unreal Engine. I know that.

But are they part of Epic and therefore get it as part of their deal or are they licensing it from Epic? I don't know. Because we've talked we've talked to be able to talk about licensing different engines Which is a very common thing in video games to license out the engine But we've talked about it for machine them. Uh, and those price tags on those engines are big. Mm-hmm Big big big. You know, I've read an interview with John Carmack recently where he was talking about how he's glad that The Unreal engine is the now is now like the standard FPS engine Yeah, and it's not the quick engine anymore he's glad that the Unreal Engine is now like the standard FPS engine.

And it's not the Quake Engine anymore because he said he hated having to support the engine. He said like back then they would sell the Quake Engine to someone and they didn't have, you know, it was a small company, they didn't have the infrastructure to support the engine after the sale. So they said that they would sell someone the engine and they said, okay, when you buy the engine, you get to come and talk to John Carmack for two hours. That's your support. Wow, really? Yeah, and then their engineers would come and sit down,

they'd have to hammer out all their issues. They're like, okay, that's it, you know, a good luck with your game. Wow. You know, I find that statement to be a little odd too that he's happy about it because hasn't the impression always been that it makes their own games as nothing more than a showcase

for what the engine is capable of doing so that they can then license the engine. I had heard that before. Yeah like Doom Doom 3 got a lot of criticism for that didn't it? Was that it was the the game was just not really as good as it could be they were just interested in making a new version of the engine to license to other video game developers. I mean that's just you know random people talking shit on the internet but I mean that's what I had always heard about the ad. Yep. Interesting. Did you ever look at PayFotter? I'm interested to see. I mean I don't know where to look at marketing budgets man. Box office mojo sometimes. Yeah it doesn't it doesn't a lot of times though. Yeah. Have marketing budgets? It'll have like production budget versus advertising budget. All right let me see I'll

look this up right now. BoxOfficeMojo.com. Are they part of IMDB? Yeah, why don't they enable these two sites? Yeah, they got purchased. Yeah, they did. All the cool kids call it Bomojo, by the way. Bomojo. You said stupid saying box office mojo.

Oh, do I? B-O-Mojo? Is that what people say? Bomojo. All the cool kids being Gus on it. Bomojo. All right, what is this? I never watch Harry Potter.

Just half blood prints. Is this one? half blood prints. Is this one? Half blood prints. It says production budget was $250 million. And it's made $895 million worldwide. Wow. So that's a profit, let me check my mouth.

Carry the money. You're so proud of your ignorance of Harry Potter. I'm not proud of my ignorance of Harry Potter. I just haven't seen it ever. Ever, and I don't know anything about it. You like to, you like to, you like to boast that fact. I do. If anyone's talking about Harry Potter, you'll just like, get up and be like ever ever and I don't know anything You like you like to you like to boast that fact. I do I if anyone's talking about high part You'll just like get up you'd like hey, I don't know anything about it. It's a it's a it's a it's a kid wizard You know, I mean I'm with you. I didn't I'm going to either he's a British kid wizard no offense

I know you're a wizard. What would you call Luke Skywalker? What's that? I call him fucking badass Who do you think would win in a fight Harry Potter or Luke Skywalker? I don't know Right along you fight because Harry Potter would cry and say my parents got me in the situation It's not my fault. Is that what he does? All right, do I do anything else talk about before you wrap up today? Well, it's about something interesting so we can have something to put in this fucking podcast Gavin and Ben and I watched the burbs last night. They had never heard of it. It was awesome a little before their time

We're not a little Tom Hanks, but you know, I never knew Tom Hanks was a comedic actor I've only ever seen him do serious stuff. I never knew he was an economy like bachelor party We're gonna watch money pit next I think that's another great one. We watched a splash as well That was good that outtakes from saving Private Riner, pretty fucking funny. That was filmed in my town. Now very few actors can make that switch, and I guess Tom Hanks has just completely made the switch.

He hasn't done any kind of comedies at all. When the... Recently. No. Well, we've forced Gump against... You and I went and saw Cast Away. Yes. And... Not a comedy. We've forced them, I guess. You and I went and saw Castaway. Yes.

And... Not a comedy. That was when I think I reached my limit of dealing with audiences in the movie theater. I was ready to start throwing punches. Why, what was going on? Well, have you seen the movie Castaway? I've seen bits of it. I'm gonna ruin one of the bits then.

I'm gonna knock his tooth out with a... Yeah, that's a good one. When he knocks his tooth out, we actually get it. Not funny, right? That's pretty funny. No, it wasn't fun. I was that I'm gonna be fun But the row in front of us thought it was funny. They thought it was hilarious Everyone in the theater thought that was funny and like when he loses Wilson the volleyball I was tearing up in the water and he's screaming for Wilson to come back Everyone was cracking up. Everybody in the movie theater thought that was just the high comedy the guy literally set sitting right in front of us was going

That was just the high comedy the guy literally sat sitting right in front of us was going He lost the ball He's volleyball is a person Yeah, it was pretty bad that was pretty bad. I saw funny movie though this weekend What did you say I saw mystery team my Derek com? Oh, right? And that was fucking funny. It was you know, it's a movie that they made they stopped making YouTube videos like in 2008 And it must be really weird to go from making an internet video where you make it, put it online, you get instant feedback to go into that feature film production mode because they shot it in March of 2008, spring of 2008, somewhere around there.

Like three months before we started reconstruction. Exactly. So did they just disappear from the face of the internet and they just like, bear it back, we're doing a movie. Well, you know, I mean, people are still watching their videos, you know, I mean, I don't know how people are keeping up But not everyone releases stuff on a weekly basis. That's not their mo, you know Some people just put out like one thing a month anyway Hmm, that's such a long cycle though. I can't imagine. I mean, we're so used to the instant feedback and like

Making something and having it up that day. I can't fathom like even even DVD production which takes us about four weeks five weeks Feels unbearably long to me. Well, I mean even reverse blue which is essentially we make like a movie a year Yeah, we get feedback in five minute chunks, you know, it's not like we're working on something Behind closed doors for nine months at a time or a year at a time and saying well, I really hope we're heading the right direction with this Yeah, I hope so. Is this funny? I can't remember anymore. We did this part eight months ago.

Yeah, it was funny when we wrote it, you know. Maybe we should take it all those references to Michael Jackson. I'm the juggernaut bitch just isn't as funny as it used to be. But it was great. Mr. team's great. I don't know what kind of release it's going to get. They're doing like a college tour kind of thing, right? That's the smart thing to do.

Yeah, yeah. So I think there, if you live in a big college tour kind of thing, right? That's the smart thing to do. Yeah, yeah. So I think if you live in a big college town, chances are to end up in your local theater. It's, if you liked Super Troopers by Broken Lizard, I think the people who liked Super Troopers will like this, you know, and I was a fan of Derek Comedy already. So I went in as a fan and I had a great time. It's also hard not to like a movie

at the Alamo Drive Toss. It's usually such a good environment, you know. Yeah, I thought of the Alamo, which is badass theater. That's literally a block away from us. Yeah. They're making a bowling alley, those Alamo guys. Are they really? Making a bowling alley down on South LaMora.

Is it alley mose? I don't know. Is that what it's good, they have the shirts. They have the shirts, that's what I'm talking about. I think it's called Hybal. Hybal, bowling lanes. And it's like, you know think it's called Hybal. Hybal, whole bowling lanes. And it's like, you know, it's cool because you get to eat dinner while you watch a movie.

But the coolest thing about it is, these guys know how to program a theater. Yeah. They get to just awesome movies. Like, you can't see mystery team anywhere else in the United States right now, but you can see it at the Alamo. Yeah, pretty awesome.

The world premiere of the new Star Trek movie was at the Alamo. Austin gets a lot of really cool Premiers because of the album and then I mean and they go out of their way to do really cool stuff like even when they just had opening night for Iron Man They had a dude in the parking lot flying around on a jetpack to the higher so much fun. It was loud loud It's that it's fucking terrifying. What do you mean flying around it? What like we what they had to do come out with a fucking real Life jetpack dude and he was dressed up like Iron Man.

Horrible costume! Horrible costume! And he flew from like one end of the parking lot to the other, and it sounded like a jet was taken off. It was a real jetpack. Yeah. Yeah. It was like compressed air or something.

He can fly for like 15 seconds at a time. And they remember when Transformers came out, they hired the big trucker-saurus. Oh yeah. They closed off the parking lot, that trucker-saurus come and demolish the car. Yeah. They have David Lynch marathons, where in between the movies, they have midgets come out and dance and wrestle each other and stuff, just like really absurd stuff like that.

They just do something fun for every movie. Like, you could go, like, on any given that you could watch the jerk and they'll sort of be pizza in a cup. Like, it doesn't have to be like the biggest thing in the world, but it'll be something cool and referential to the film that'll make sense. Like, when they show blue velvet, they have free-paps blue ribbon for everybody.

Yeah, when I saw Shaft there, everyone got a 40 of old English. Yeah, back, yeah. And then they did, what's the Steve Zizou movie? Life aquatic. Life aquatic, and they gave everyone a red took. And so every one of the audiences wearing red hat in the picture.

Like they're part of... I can see myself in that picture. If we ever go together, I'll point out where I am. Did you guys see that there together? I didn't go that. I didn't go. I went on my own. Oh man.

You saw a movie on the way. Yeah. Hey, does Wes Anderson have a movie coming out anytime soon? Fabulous Mr. Fox that he and... Oh, right. It's a cartoon, right? And it's him and that other... They do the word squid in the whale, no bomb-bop.

Oh, cool. Yeah. That's a good movie. Man. Yeah, it'll know a bomb oh cool yeah that's a good movie man Yeah, it's different kind of movie. It's a good movie. It's a good movie man. If you want to watch the like textbook failure of an American relationship. Yeah, it's pretty cool man. It's pretty cool. It's a good Daniels is a good actor. I mean he's he's done some really cool stuff in the last few years. I'm dumb and dumb No, I know he's not cheating me. Right? No, I do think he's a great actor, yeah. The, uh, or right nephobia.

You know what he was really good in terms of endearment. I don't know if you guys ever saw that. I didn't know he was in that. Yeah. My mom made me watch that movie like a thousand times and I was like, yeah, that's a, that was like, I think when I was just kind of reaching the point where I realized the Oscars were something cool, but they weren't necessarily movies you wanted to watch. Yeah.

And that's when I remember that coming out. Can I say, this, where the wild things are is coming out. And Spike Jones is probably one of the best guys to get that movie and direct it. Yeah. There's part of me that wishes that had ended up in the hands of Wes Anderson.

I like Wes Anderson. I Like Wes Anderson's like childlike Wonderment stuff. I think a little bit better than Spike Jones. There's a bigger part of me that wishes that movie wasn't made. Really? Why is that it's like a 15-page children's book? So I don't see how it's gonna translate into you know a 90-minute feature. Yeah, that make a cool story out of it. We'll see. I mean, so I make a cool story out of it. We'll see. Why not make an original story about a Nylon Filth of Monsters?

Why take a 15 page fucking book? I don't know. Maybe he had a good web agent. It's Spike Jones. It'll be good. It'll be fun. I do agree with your Wes Anderson thing, though. That guy's got such a unique aesthetic.

It's like, I don't know, it's really cool to watch know yeah like did you guys ever see Darjeeling women no no man you should see that movie didn't do well critical failure but just gorgeous and it's just like he just does whatever that is he does so well it's really fun to watch I watched hotel Shavallie to see Natalie how does Shavallie I wasn't that impressive how that worked out for you disappointing It was disappointing. Yeah. There was something I saw recently where Mr. Skin put out the top 100 nude celebrities or new tops 100 nude scenes of all time. What for movies? What was number one? Was the fast times ridger behind Phoebe Kates. Phoebe Kates. Yeah. And the number two was something. I think it was like the Jessica Beel and that that stripper movie she just did. Oh really?

But yeah, but I, I gotta, how does Mr. Skin stay in business? How does that site do that? How can they take clips from movies and put them on their website and sell access to them? And they've been doing this for now 10 years, 12 years? Yeah, unbelievable. I read about it somewhere a couple years ago. And it's, the answer is like it's really just like he doesn't have the right to do it but nobody's stopping them right and they send in clips

they send them clips because they see it as good promotion I guess right? It's something they what's turned did you talk about it in stern? Yeah it's one of those things it's probably one of those things where he started doing it long enough ago that he just kind of became entrenched in the internet and it was before people started to realize this kind of stuff and he just got grandfathered in You know you probably couldn't start a site like mr. Skin right now. There's no such thing as grandfather That's like well they killed. He's already been doing it. He's been doing it for so long. He's so successful nobody's sued him yet Why why start the pot? I guess so I mean I guess I mean unless everyone's gonna do it all at once here This is this is bad number 100 on the list was Christina Ricci in Black Snake Mode.

I would have put that probably down on it. I've still never seen that. I saw that at the draft house. That's so drunk. I saw that at the draft house. You was part of that 24 hour film festival. I got so drunk. There's a really cool film festival that the ANICU News guys put on,

like once a year at the Alamo where you go and literally sit in a seat for 24 hours straight. Yeah. Is that fun? seat for 24 hours straight. Yeah. Is that fun? The first eight hours are. Yeah. And then it's like, oh. I've always wanted to go.

I just never do, but I hear that they have movies to try to make you go to sleep in the middle of the night. Okay. I agree with number two. I'm gonna go down this little square. Okay. Yeah. Let's say that's top 10. You've reached the pervy part of the podcast. Okay top 10 puff cut and half the way in havoc. I've seen that

I've never seen it. Okay, no that's number 10 and a half away side. Yeah, listen Milano and embrace the vamp absolutely I've seen clips from that but Eva Green in the dreamers don't know what that is. Wait. No. No. Yeah, dude That's a hot. I've seen that movie. She's fucking awesome in that film. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's worth seeing. She looks not in the picture Yeah, she's like a curvy curvy dark hair chick. It looks like an old like period piece Yeah, it takes place in France in like the 50s or 60s during this there was like those French riots about college or some shit I thought we were talking about boobs. Why are we talking about college riots? And then she fucks a lot in it If I was gonna replace that was something else I would have done probably human thermon in dangerous lasers also hop but you should see that movie All right for you Holly Berry in swordfish. I never never saw Kelly pressed in in mischief

Kelly Preston's cool never saw she's absolutely gorgeous Mercer to Maine before the devil knows your dead never saw never saw it at Jessica Biel powder blue We're at number four never saw Jessica Biel number three is Sharon Stoney Basic instinct. That's like the whole movie. Yeah Number two Angelina Jolie in Gia. Oh fuck. Yeah, which if you've never seen Gia is an awesome movie And I come to find out the other Hot naked girl in that is the chick from lost. Yeah, dude. How awesome is that? Which chick from lost?

Juliet what yeah? Watching them we tonight. That's like, that's just like the huge tit make out movie. Jesus. Whoa. And I've got a boner. And number one. That's as Phoebe Kates and Fasthouse original.

What is it? It's a great scene. Just so we're not complete pigs. And to give something for the female members of the ones. Gab, do you want to see Dirty again? I'm not going to do it. We won't. You have to do it.

We want to. I want to know what the best male nude scene of all time is. So, let's, no, no, no, let's, let's have a little quality here. I would say probably if you're gonna, not Jason Seagull and fucking, if you're getting ceremonial. That was a lot of, I didn't expect to come. I would imagine that women really like those Ocean's 11 movies.

So, somebody's going to see that. There's no Dixon those though, are there? Well, I don't think women know what to see new Dixon. I don't know about that. Probably not. What about Dr. Manhattan? Probably, oh, there you go. Yeah, Dr. Manhattan didn't get a big like.

There weren't a bunch of women going back. Bruce Willis showed his weiner in the color of night. Oh, he did? Yeah. What about Boogie Knights? Boogie Knights, yeah, that he did? Yeah. What about uh, buggy nights? Buggy nights, yeah. How about Harvey Kiteshle and Badlutin? Oh, not badlutin.

That was a, our, our box of penis in 28 days later. What about the Simpsons movie? Simpsons movie, Bart's dick. What about, what was the broke back mountain those dudes were naked, right? Yeah, see that's not driving that stuff. I don't think, you know what I mean?

I think like, when I think of like women, like what the equivalent of like women porn is is I think like Titanic I was thinking Jack books and credit cards take it easy Whoa, we're sure a little balance in here. You're at home Gus All right, we got to cut this we're like an hour to half 300 reply be a big one 300. There you go Even my wife was into that my Gus I sneezed earlier and it didn't smell of anything that I sneezed We we had this discussion. We have to bring something up trying to in the podcast Why try in the podcast because we're an hour ago. You cut all the bullshit in the middle and make it up

Okay, well this is me talking. I'll cut something you said earlier then okay, so I can fit this in you can cut the bear I said dirty. Yeah, I said it again earlier than okay so I can fit this in you can cut the bear I said dirty yeah yeah I said it again So we were talking here in office swallow how do you swallow that fucking loud how do you do it I always get mad at him for that So none you so none of you guys have stinky sneezes. I'm either the one who has to do no no no such thing should I Preface how this came out yes please okay? I like to find weird ass stuff on the internet like weird medical stuff is something I like to find like weird like chiropractic Adjustment yeah, that's like yours everybody has one weird thing that's your weird thing I like to find weird medical stuff like tonsils stones and weird crap throw rocks

I came across this community of people on the internet They were like on some Yahoo group where they're concerned because they have stinky they're concerned because they have stinky sneezes. No lab, this is serious. They were concerned because they have stinky sneezes. And this is like a weird offshoot of like the more gallons groups. This is weird thing called more gallons where people think that they have a parasite that makes fibers all over their body.

I'm fascinated by these people. I'm absolutely fascinated by them and somehow through them I found the stinky sneezes people they think that because they're sneezes Smell they have a stinky smell to them that they're being invaded by some kind of like fungus that and they think they're contagious I brought this up in conversation and Gus said I Have stinky sneezes. I get you all have never smelled them, but I do have stinky sneezes. I have. You just smelled it once.

And I had a stinky sneeze. I read before I went to your house last night. But anyway, they're not all my sneezes are stinky. But only sometimes are they stinky. How can a sneeze smell? It makes no sense. And usually, if it's going to be stinky, the chances are greater, it'll be stinky in the morning versus later in the day.

Are we talking like, but it can happen later in the day because it had to drive before I went to Jeff's house and he had to do the last night. I'm gonna tell you one time, this is like nine years ago, Gus and I were driving to a store to pick something up for work. This is the first time I was ever,

by the way, that time, this story, that was the first time I was ever aware that my sneeze stink. Oh really? We were driving and we had to turn around on a parking lot and Something happened and it smelled so bad that we both thought we hit a bloated dead animal and we couldn't get this thing off the car and I We were like it was so bad and it lasted so long

We were talking about like do we get a car wash? How do we get rid of this dead animal? I then fun and I remembered it was so bad at one point I turned to you when this was going on remember I said was that me? I said That smell come out of me when I sneeze and like in the Gus admitted to me a couple weeks ago that it was his stinky sneeze And that he just let me think it was a dead animal all these years At the time I didn't know it was my sneeze. That was the first time I'd ever had a stinky sneeze But it was really it was special bad. Yeah, and my wife never had stinky sneezes and now she does so she called them off You yeah, I love the fact that you can sneeze, but you don't smell it on the way out. No, I don't smell it

But because the second I'm done sneezing. Oh, it's every I smell it because that's why I asked you So it's is it something like I? Way could be I don't know I'm good like I I'm not I've never read anything about it on the internet It's got a bacterial like something bacteria I've never read anything about it on the internet, but I always thought- It's nothing but bacteria. It was like something to have bacteria in my sinuses. It's like no kill. Because that's why I asked you, whether you sneeze through your nose or mouth, because if you sneeze through your nose, surely you'd smell it as it came out.

It sneezes through my mouth. Yeah. My nose isn't, even my huge nose isn't big enough to accommodate my guss style sneezes. Well, now a big thing that I like to read is, like the conspiracy stuff where people think there's something being hidden from them and these people are these people in the community are great because they say I talked to my doctor about it. They refuse to recognize it They just I see doctors and nurses talking and like saying no no shaking their heads at this Possibly is this what you have experienced from the medical community? I've never talked to a doctor about it, but after we talked I did some searching on line for it and The people who cross the posting like I'm a doctor. I'm a nurse. This is impossible. This can't be happening

This is a new imagination. It's not which is why you should sneeze into a bag You know open it in front of adult to space. Yeah, I'll sneeze for you guys One of these days if I ever if I was thinking sneeze I'll call you over to my dad I'm not coming out. I want to I don't want it Let me know so I can take a break and go outside for a while Well, if you if you've got you fart without warning so Body function podcasts. Hey, let me reach you more gallons real quick.

So you get a real firm. It's just crazy stuff. I love to find more gallons. Also called more gallons disease or maybe it's more gel and more gel and syndrome is a name given in 2002 by Maria Le Tato to a proposed condition characterized by a range of cutaneous skin symptoms, including crawling biting and stinging sensations, finding

fibers on or under the skin and persistent skin lesions. If you're, by the way, a hypochondriac, do not read this stuff because you'll go crazy. And it's people who like find these black, like, they say they're almost like metal fibers growing out of their body. What? Yeah. And they find them. And they freak that they freak out. That would be awesome. It's, I think, listen, if you're suffering from this, I'd like you should see a doctor absolutely, but I collect the accepted opinion that is at its a mental condition and not a good definition.

Oh, there's Lord. That's... Wow. Really disturbing. But people are, there's whole websites dedicated to this. Are there any pictures of people who have scraped bits of metal off their skin? All over YouTube.

All over, there's pictures and there's videos. I collect that shit up out of the bottom of the shower and I'd sell it. It must be valuable recycling aluminum Conspiracy conspiracy theories here's some self-identified self-identified More gallon suffers and conspiracy theories provide their own origin hypothesis Perhaps it is caused by chemical spills or even alien abductions on a radio program called coast to coast Art Bell is caused by chemical spills or even alien abductions. On a radio program called Coast to Coast. The Earth Bells? Okay, stop me when it sounds weird.

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