Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #22

Episode Date: September 9, 2009

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie comes a new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-oxane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motor-mouthed outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnett, and Thomas Hayden Church.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Twisted metal, streaming now, only on peacock. Welcome to the RISP podcast. Podcast. D-Train Gus, Sola. Is there any other functionality associated with that? Can you view a list? Kill. Ramsey. Was completely befuddled by the idea of where to save something or what's calling
Starting point is 00:01:08 G.O.L.G. Man I feel pressure that we shouldn't suck now after that song And Bernie Bernie I'm Diane Lane G.O.F. Drunk Tank
Starting point is 00:01:21 R.O.F. If it G.O.F. If it G.O.F. G.O.F's a G.O. It turns out Compute is Compromise Jeff either. Guess in the... Male friends, eh. Oh, you hate me that, would you?
Starting point is 00:01:31 What do you want? You want your drink? I do want my drink. Hey, everyone's going. How's everyone going? There's a drunk tank. Hey! Hey, just me how I'm going. How are you going? How are you going?
Starting point is 00:01:40 What, you from Australia? Yeah, you're Australian now. How are you going? Hey, I just want to let her off. How are you doing? Uh, tired. How about you going? That was one letter off. How are you doing? Tired, how about you? I'm doing awesome. I'm not tired and leased because I didn't take the red eye
Starting point is 00:01:50 back from Seattle. Bernie said that we should all take the red eye back. That we could be back in Austin by 10 a.m. from PAX. And then he didn't take it. Well, he booked it. He just changed his point. I can't get it the last day. The last day, he's like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:02:01 I'm not going to fly out at it. So I'm not going to fly out from Seattle at 11.30 tonight. You guys, you guys knock yourselves out. Well you guys we finished breaking down the booth at packs Sunday evening You guys went straight to the airport and I went to Gold class cinemas in Redmond, Washington and watched in glorious bastard in glorious bastards How was it? Glorious bastards awesome and the cinema is fantastic. Thanks for asking Gavin.
Starting point is 00:02:27 You're very welcome. It's good. I highly recommend seeing the movie. I feel uncomfortable with anybody speaking well of a theater that's not alamo. Seems like you're cheating on them in some way. No, I feel you. But it's totally different. The castle has been in the door.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Why is he opening the door? Why is he going in the closet and go poop in there? Get him out of there. I don't want the cat. Why is he opening the door? Why is he going in the closet and go poop in there? Good kick in there. Get the cat out of there. Get him out of there. Don't let the cat go in there and poop. But I feel you, Jeff, when you say that you don't want to talk nicely about a theater that's not the Alamo.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Kick him out. But it's a totally different deal than the Alamo. Like the Alamo is kind of hip and cool. Goal class is upscale. It's like, you know what? I got my girl I want to go out somewhere nice I want to pay 30 bucks a ticket to go see a movie
Starting point is 00:03:09 Whoa, and then you sit in these recliners that recline like all the way back and there's only I think Quick quick count only about 24 seats in the whole theater Is there a place where you can recline a seat fully down and then watch a movie on the ceiling? Is there a place where you can do it? Because that would be awesome. You haven't that tell you maybe the dinner's office? I can I can recommend a theater cost 50 bucks a seat. There are only two seats intimate space about a thousand square feet smaller screen but it's called my living room and I'll let you watch any movie you want there for fifty dollars ahead. Will you also come and serve me drinks? Yes super private and I have my British
Starting point is 00:03:45 Butler available most weekend, most week nights. No, no, no, no, he's sitting. I'm staring at you. I do. You're down to one British Butler now. Yeah. Yeah, we left one. Jordan, personalized service. Jordan really likes it because they offer you a blanket as soon as you sit down, which to her is the greatest thing ever, because she's a woman, which means she's cold everywhere she goes. And being a woman she probably complains constantly as well. That she's cold? Or about everything? It's because of the reptile blood.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Let's move on to Gus's second real quick. Gus, you want to talk about that? No, no, no, no, I can't say anything anymore. My wife started listening to the podcast when she realized I talk about her. Oh, she really? Yeah. Wow, and that's not good. No, I love women. Women are great. They equal rights and stuff
Starting point is 00:04:31 Okay, I'm gonna open a beer But they used to have Gavin asked if there was a place where you could lay down and watch a movie They used to have back in the day the planetarium Did you ever go to those who were like oh yeah if you go in a dome, they still have those. Yeah, but it was like, I don't know, maybe it's because I'm not 12 anymore. I don't end up at the planetarium, but they seemed like they were a much bigger deal.
Starting point is 00:04:52 You know, you mentioned a planetarium. The last time we went down to New Zealand, the day we landed, my wife and I were really tired. You know, you have that crazy jet lag. And we wanted to just like take a quick nap and we were in Auckland, we thought, oh, there's a planetarium there. Great, we go in there.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It's gonna be totally dark. We sleep for like 30 minutes while they do their presentation. We can then we can get out refreshed after our little nap. So we go in, we pay, we enter the planetarium, and we quickly realize that it's a tiny planetarium. There's like 30 school desks set up inside of it. We're like, oh shit, this is small. It's not very comfortable out of this.
Starting point is 00:05:22 So we sit down, then we wait and like the lights dim, and then the dude walks in and give the presentation. Like it's not even over a loud figure. It's like a class. And the dude walks in and starts talking to us. It's like me and my wife and like this one other chick were in there. And he's like sitting right in front of a steering at us. And it was the hardest 30 minutes to stay awake in my life. So you took a class. Essentially, I took a class in the planetarium. Did he say how you going?
Starting point is 00:05:44 He might have. What game has the planetarium. Did he say how are you going? He might have. What game has a planetarium level in it? I'm running through the level in my head right now. I was lost in the game and I can't figure out what fucking game it was. Hit the pause and take a look. It's a 360 game.
Starting point is 00:05:57 What is it? Was it like Vegas or something? No. Pac-Man. No, don't load him up. I can't. I hope somebody that's listening to this knows what I'm talking about and can write in and let me know. Because it's too hard for me to Google. It's Pac-Man. No, that's not gonna work. I'm not gonna work arcade. I hope somebody that's listening to this knows what I'm talking about and can write in
Starting point is 00:06:05 and let me know, because it's too hard for me to Google. It's Pac-Man. And Xbox 360 game with a Planetarium level. It's probably like, it's probably, oh, oh, follow up. Follow three. Uh, yeah. There's a Planetarium level in Follow Three. Nope.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Nope. Yeah, where you run around, uh, it's in the, uh, it's one of those big buildings like the library, not the library, but one of those big buildings and there's like an observation area. It's got like three levels, Planetarium thing not the library But one of those big buildings and there's like a observation area. It's got like three levels Planetarium thing and really in the middle. Yeah. Yeah, it's where to Christ. So whoa That's serious. I do though podcasts just took a very serious turn. Somebody's going to hell when they find out it turns out It's in Prince of Persia
Starting point is 00:06:38 I'll I'll take the risk So speaking of video games, I guess we should probably talk about packs and all the wonderful things that we saw at packs this weekend. And congratulations to everyone in this room for not catching the packs, SARS or whatever that is. Packs, packs? Packs, packs. Yeah, man, that's serious.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Like Luke, Jack, Bin, who else? I'll tell the people everybody has a, yeah. My Twitter feed is My Twitter feed. My Twitter feed is now like reading the first 50 pages of the stand. The best part, you can see it's like an outbreak, you can see it like spreading. You can't, yeah. Like we had to cancel gaming night because three of the people that were in packs came down with something, you know?
Starting point is 00:07:20 And somebody else says, boy I haven't coughing a lot today since I got back from packs. Here's the hint, wash your fucking hands. Yeah, dude. It was a great way to wake up Friday morning though. We woke up Friday morning and walked out of our hotel room and there's like a USA today waiting for us or like the Sandal Paper or whatever it is. And the headline above the fold is 2000 WSU students sick. It was actually...
Starting point is 00:07:38 Sick with swine flu symptoms. Yeah. Actually, I remember the headline for Badam because it was such a scary headline because you open the hotel door, you steer it at and it says, swine flu rages at WSU. There you go. Holy God. 2000 students. It's like you want to save the paper for when you shoot an apocalyptic movie and it's the one you let roll down the street. You know it's dude. That being said, I bet Friday morning was test day, right? 2000 students woke up and we're like, I also have swine flu. Yeah. Please no chemistry final.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Yeah, it was like, they're just going back. It's gonna be bad. It'll come back pretty hard, they say. It'll winter into school. I was reading that it started a lot earlier than they anticipated too. And that's extra troubling. So I'm good.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Not good. Not good. I wonder is it better to catch it now or is it better to wait? Well, is it better to wait well before it mutates Will we how about this will we be sitting here three months from now staring at the space where Gus or Bernie don't you see Limiting this conversation there be a large space left if it's on space for Bernie's man you Well, it was room will be that section staying lots of lots of room you could hire two healthy people I just want to know for the record. I think you look fine Bernie. I wonder if this is how leopard did to started
Starting point is 00:08:49 You know, let's not find out. We tend to be pretty sarcastic. We assume that the people who come to our booth and come to our panel We assume that they're in on the joke, right? Yes. I would think so like I got kind of called out I was on a panel with a dude who runs the PlayStation Network, and then some people who run a tricksy and KP who are big Xbox Live community managers. And somebody stood up and asked a question that really honestly we had already covered during the spoken part of the panel, and then during the Q&A he got up and asked like, how do you handle trolls? And I gave a very funny sarcastic answer.
Starting point is 00:09:23 I'd love to hear it. I tried to give a very funny sarcastic answer. I'd love to hear it. I tried to give a very funny sarcastic answer. It was just, he said, how do you deal with trolls who come to your website? How do you make your website better deal with trolls? And I said, take your website and move it off the internet, which is just, you know, I mean, because we'd already done a long conversation
Starting point is 00:09:39 about how we handle trolls and how we handle banning and stuff like that. But then the other panelists were like, that was really mean. Why would you be so mean? I was like, oh, yeah, this isn't one of our bandels. I guess I should be a little nicer. Apparently the rest of the world's popular by Pussies. I think it's joke.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Well, my whole thing, too, is that like, when you go to the panels in the Q&A, and I don't know that this guy is that way, but it's very clear when some people are getting up and it's more of a performance Q&A, they're not there to ask a question, they're just there to be at the microphone and kind of perform for lack of a better term
Starting point is 00:10:12 is called a masturbatory interrogative. And- I like where this is going. Yeah, and you can tell when the audience knows, that the audience is like, we already talked about this. So it's a better just to like, you know, give a quick little funny answer and then move
Starting point is 00:10:25 on, you know, move on to the real questions. Yeah, but I actually felt that I really did feel a bit like, wow. And then I kind of bashed other social networking stuff during the panel too, which they're, they were from corporate America, you know, they're coming from the corporate angle where they're just trying to expand. They have a product that their thing is based around, whereas our perspective was where like the grassroots independent Representative on that panel and I was just saying, you know
Starting point is 00:10:49 You can spend all your time on Facebook and Twitter trying to grow an audience But then your your audience or your communities on Facebook and Twitter, you know You're gonna lose your identity in the process and I think we go blue in the face talking about that sometimes Don't we I feel like we've told some people who we've told some people that repeatedly and they don't listen. Yeah so they end up dispersed all over the place. Yeah people just don't want to hear it I guess you know. Too bad idiots you should have listened. Well whoever you may be. Luckily Lifer did too was not depressing. Dude you want to talk about Lifer did too? Speaking of Lifer did too. I tried to segue already earlier. You all fucking shot me down.
Starting point is 00:11:26 We got to play it the other day out there when we were out there in Seattle. Yeah, we had the Gus and I were lucky enough to get invited to this Microsoft community event where they just took a bunch of members of like Xbox websites and stuff and they took us all up to Microsoft and gave us essentially six hours with a bunch of games, the number one and two being ODST and left for dead and Gus and I I think have we've played a fair bit of ODST already and we played a fair bit that game too But then eventually we weaned ourselves off to Lefford at two and God damn dude Anybody that's complaining about that game coming out too soon needs needs needs to be shot. No, they just need to play the game
Starting point is 00:12:02 They need to play the game. It's it's really really good. Does it look does it look like a different game or does it look like an expansion of the city now? What do you mean by that like does it look like a different game? Like you like gears gizawa one and two like if you just showed me a clip of a generic gameplay I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to tell which one I want to know let me ask you a question though. Is that a problem? No, I'm not sure I love it. it. They've kept in everything that works. And we've got it better stuff. So it's fine. It looks very much the same, but you could probably quickly
Starting point is 00:12:30 tell what you're looking at based on zombies and weapons. Right. Well, it's the same with gears. I mean, you can see some things. Oh, it's too big. But if it's just generic walking around, kind of gun out, would you be able to tell? It feels a lot more massive to me and less linear playing it than Lefford Dead 1.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Like, in the, I guess it's like the first act of- You were playing Dark Carnival. Dark Carnival, right. Very quickly, you start like on a, like you start like on like a highway kind of like, like a similar start to Lefford Dead 1, and then you're almost immediately in like a two-story motel,
Starting point is 00:13:04 and there's like 80 rooms in that motel, and you can go in every fucking room. I got lost for like 20 minutes walking around there. It takes a while to figure out. They just empty rooms. Oh, zombie filled rooms. It depends, dude. It depends.
Starting point is 00:13:16 And you can find hidden stuff in there, all kinds of junk. But yeah, it was awesome. And then the first time you see the special, the new special infected you blown away. Yeah, there's what, there's three new special infected affected there's the charger who's like a tank who runs real fast and pins you to the ground and slams you there's the jockey who jumps on the survivors back and rides them around yeah that's my farm my favorite yeah that's my favorite and then the spitter who spits like noxious gas onto the ground i'm not really clear on the spitter what the
Starting point is 00:13:42 spitter he's like spits that green stuff on the ground And if you walk over or in that area you take damage, but it doesn't attract other zombies like the like the boomers No, I think so. Is it a bull? Oh, is it a spitter a boy or a girl because guys don't like him remember? I never got a good look at the spitter You thought it was a female zombie, but I never really saw Bernie D D D D No, yeah, I know, but I kind of like I think I played more of the game than you guys have So we definitely saw I mean I came up against like six or seven spitters I just wasn't paying attention and then we're gonna have Luke make a comic about it
Starting point is 00:14:12 And I can't remember if it's a guy or a girl. I don't want to be an actor of what I've seen It's a very ugly looking girl. Okay, very like like saggy tits and like whoa Nice what was in the witch? Yeah, yeah, she's kind of hot. And then there's also now a new thing where there's like uncommon, common zombies. Yeah, I'm not too clear on how that works either. It's like, it's not necessarily a special zombie,
Starting point is 00:14:37 it's just like a regular zombie who's a little different. Like in the dark carnival there was a clown. And it was, you would like walk around, you could hear him, like his shoes were like squeaking. And was he would like walk around you could hear him like his shoes We're like squeaking and he would attract like a bunch of zombies around him as a result of the noise So is it kind of like in dead rising when you have those zombies with the bee on their back? Yeah, it's kind of like that and he was harder to kill too, right? But he didn't have any special powers. He was just attracted zombie. Yeah, anyway, that was pretty cool
Starting point is 00:15:00 So are you out? Can you play all these new special infected inverses? We couldn't play versus we always had available to us at the event was camping. Dude, if you can though and I'm assuming you can, jockey is gonna be the way to go. Yeah, like the first thing, first time I encountered a jockey, he jumped on my back and ran me right off a cliff. It was awesome to be a part of. We were playing co-op and there were three of us that were still alive and the jockey jumped on Jeff's back, started walking him away, so I started running over to help him,
Starting point is 00:15:25 then a charger came out and pinned the other dude. And I started to kill the charger, the dude was incapacitated, I picked the other dude up, I looked around for Jeff, and the jockey had walked him off a cliff into a river. I was like, by the time I got over there, I got to Jeff right as he bled out and died. Yeah, that was pretty awesome.
Starting point is 00:15:40 They have designed the new special effect and it seems like to separate you. Like even the spitter, it cuts you off from an area, you know. So like you can't enter an area until the acid or whatever that stuff dies. Yeah, and like you said, and the charger will grab you and run with you till it hits a wall and then like hit you into the wall or start hitting you into the ground. So again, it's a zombie picking you up and like running you away from the group. When he hits you, apparently he will run in a straight line until he hits something else.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And so if there's a clear shot, which there aren't a lot of those in left for dead, but he can take you a very long way. Yep. What was that? There was a controller back there. Okay. But I will say this, you asked Gav, does it look different? I can tell you that you played ODSD, right?
Starting point is 00:16:23 I did, yeah. Yeah, and I mean, did that look like Halo 3 to you? I mean, they're basically an expansion or a sequel of a current hit like Gears and Gears War 2, Left for Dead and Left for the 2, now Halo 3 and Halo 3, it's called Halo 3 ODST. Yeah, but it's awesome, you know? And when you actually play and you play the campaign
Starting point is 00:16:41 and use that visor, you know, that's incredible. That's really incredible. It's like a totally different game. Um, but in Left 4 Dead 2, there isn't a single aspect of that game that they didn't update. Talk characters, weapons, enemies, environments, everything's different. Yeah, I was, I was a little skeptical about the new melee weapon system. Like, I was like, oh, I'll never use those. That seems stupid.
Starting point is 00:17:03 The second I picked up a sword, I don't think I used to gun again. Oh really? Yeah, I just ran around so because you don't run out of ammo and it's just like you're just like mowing through rows of zombies But you have a you do get tired over time right? Nope. Oh, you don't you just fucking keep swinging I only picked up a guitar and I used it for a few minutes and I switched it back for a minute got one side I swear I did not switch back to a weapon. That's a gun after that. Would you get that sword? It was by the I'm sure it's different all the time I did not switch back to a weapon. That's awesome. So, you'll gun after that. Where did you get that sword? It was by the... I'm sure it's different all the time, but it was by the Ferris or by the Carousel in Dark Carnival.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Okay. Okay. Yeah, that was the other thing we talked about with Left For Dead is what are the criticisms the original game had was that it's only five maps. Which we all knew was ridiculous. It was a four maps. Yeah, it's only four maps, which it was five maps inside of all of those four maps. And they had every possible environment that I could imagine in Left For Dead.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Oh, so when you say it's ridiculous, you're saying people who say there's only four maps that are ridiculous. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People who say that's ridiculous. We were trying to brainstorm at one point, what environments could they possibly put into
Starting point is 00:18:04 Left For Dead too, that they didn't have in Left For Dead? We came up with like two or point. What environments could they possibly put into Leford Dead 2 that they didn't have in Leford Dead? We came up with like two or three. Yeah, pretty much. And then what you play for the first five minutes in Leford Dead 2, and you're already in that hotel environment. That's awesome. That creepy motel, looking down at one of those kind
Starting point is 00:18:18 where all the doors face to outside. It's not an interior. You face outside, and there's that crappy swimming pool in the middle of the mo Yeah, it's it's the hotel in every single horror movie ever made. Yeah, yeah If they can see in in vertigo or I'm sorry for a go psycho and all of them Yeah, one thing I liked about leffited one was some of the walls were just suddenly burst open with zombies Does that happen? Eleffited to I know for a fact in the motel there was one wall like that that you that once
Starting point is 00:18:44 I got broken down. That's how you had to go one wall like that that once it got broken down that's how you had to go for your path I think it came broken down though it wasn't already broken down but I'm sure there are I mean we didn't play a lot of time outside did you guys run into anything else like weapon wise so it's melee weapons like cool there was nothing there were guns seems like all the guns were a little different pistols I saw a couple of melee weapons I know I used the sword but I did see I mean, there were guns. Seems like all the guns were a little different. Pistols. I saw a couple of melee weapons. I know I used the sword, but I did see another one.
Starting point is 00:19:11 The loading screens talked about stuff that we didn't see in the game. Right. I don't know if I feel comfortable saying. I mean, they said anything that we saw what we were clear to talk about. But I never encountered those things. Yeah, like when it gives you tips, like,
Starting point is 00:19:23 you know, pull the right trigger to fire. Like, there were stuff listed there that we never saw. That sounded really cool. Yeah, like when it gives you tips like you know pull the right trigger to fire like there Were stuff listed there that we never saw that sounded really cool. No cool. All right cool Well, I would say this fall I'm gonna get Beale's rock band for sure. Yeah, we'll get it tomorrow for the office I think I think I think I got like three I'm even buying a PS3 slim now So I've got to get Beatles rock band definitely gonna get ODS ODST, definitely going to get left for dead too. And then what else is there that we saw? Modern warfare too. Oh my god. We didn't see that but yeah. That's, it looks like. Oh dude, I don't want to go all over the place but red dead redemption. That comes out early next year. That's going
Starting point is 00:19:57 to be fucking fantastic. That's a new rock star game. Yeah. It's like Grand Theft Auto in the, in the old list. I like, it's hard to explain how cool that game was. The entire world. It's big. First of all, it looks like it's hard to explain how cool that game was the entire world It's big it first of it looks like it's about twice as big as grand theft auto for and the entire world is is interactive I don't even know how to describe it. It's just it's really really cool Well the weird thing about that is is that that sounds like gun first of all and then secondly It's it seems like it would really be an open world because it's a wild west. There's like Five building towns. Dude, yeah, well there's a lot of little settlements
Starting point is 00:20:27 and stuff, right? But you can be like riding along and then you see a mountain off in the distance, like as far away as a mountain would be and you can ride all the way up to that mountain. And it's there. Wow. And they're shickling on. It's crazy, crazy big.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Mountain shit going on. Mountain shit going on, dude. Yeah, big. Great. One of the days, we were waiting, Jack and I were waiting in line to get some coffee before the hall opened and we started talking to people around us in line and turned out that the girls just want to knock off all the controllers right now
Starting point is 00:20:53 thank you it turned out to the girl in line in front of us was working over at the scribble knots booth so we went over with her and checked out scribble knots and that game has a lot of it's surprisingly fun There's a lot of stuff you can do in it. I have no all I've heard is good things about the game No clue what that game is about. Yeah, like I just played a level And I was there like you know you can type whatever you want drop whatever you want in the game I was like, okay, let's see if there's a unicorn. It's okay. There's a unicorn. I can write it I was like, okay, let's put a rainbow in the sky. Okay. There's a rainbow in the sky What about a dick? How is that a game? I didn't see it so I don't know I hear a
Starting point is 00:21:26 lot of plays around exploring trying to collect star rights is like you know Super Mario Sunshine, right? We just click stuff, but you can Is that kind of game where you walk around like that? Yeah, okay? It's like a Super Mario kind of game right what you type stuff and stuff appears right What about Bolesack? I don't know that that would be there, but there are tons of stuff. What's wrong with you? This isn't yeah, that would be the game of Gavin's dream? I don't know that that would be there, but there are tons of stuff. What's wrong with you? This isn't the game of Gavin's dream. I didn't do this, but I saw in one of the demo videos, like they're walking through a level,
Starting point is 00:21:51 the person wrote time machine. And a time machine appears, the person got in it, went back in time to that same level, but like in the past. And they like to be counted like, Oh my God, like people from the past in there, like completed a little quest, and went back in the time machine, It came back to present time. I That's a fuse. Yeah, it's so it's so weird. It's on a tiny little DS screen. That's nuts. Yeah. I also played
Starting point is 00:22:12 I don't know if anybody else checked it out, but I played Dante's in Ferno. Did you guys take a look at that game? Nope It was crazy fun. That's gonna be a really good game. Just definitely check that out. I saw um I was I was kind of happy for these guys. It's kind of a smaller game company that's putting out an MMO and it was really fun. It's called World of Warcraft Cataclysm. The booth was really empty all the whole packs but I got a chance to sit down and play and it was a lot of fun. Dude that was really cool. We watched you and I checked out the wargans starting area and also the guy's. I'm kidding. That place was a fucking madhouse. I got there an hour before the hall opened to finally play it. I felt like watching watching that
Starting point is 00:22:44 wargans starting area and the missions I was doing, it felt totally different than wow to me. Like the quest givers were interactive in the quest. It was really kind of interesting. Yeah, it's like something I hadn't seen in wow yet. It was really cool. Yeah, I went back later when I went by myself and I played the Goblin starting area, which kind of felt like wow that I've seen already, like a jungle, tropical, lush setting. It definitely felt different than Dust Cave in which was the organ starting area but still the quest they did a lot more phasing and it seemed like the quest wore a lot more interactive yeah and like quests affect the map
Starting point is 00:23:14 right right which was kind of cool right like like yeah that was kind of neat you know let's see that a lot in the oil what's a organ those are the wolf like the wolf like characters wolf man there in the subulcher right around that area south of the sculpture Mm-hmm. I also saw I don't think I don't know if anybody saw this there was a game called split second It's a Disney racing game. It's essentially a burnout clone But it has interactive like an interactive and destructible world around it Which was pretty fucking cool. What's that if you trashed it up? Would it stay? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, like you can like knock down shit and then like also like I was I was watching this
Starting point is 00:23:47 kid race around on an air on an air like on an airfield and he went too far left and a plane landed and ran into him like a jetliner. It was pretty cool. There's a lot of that kind of stuff like you you're not only dodging the race cars but you're dodging like buildings falling over and shit. Oh wow. That's pretty cool. Yeah, there wasn't even a big line for it. I mean, I hadn't heard of it. I just kind of stumbled into it and it was really awesome. Yeah, sounds cool.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Did you guys get the chance to see any of the old Republic stuff? No. No, those were all like demonstrations that you had to show up for in a specific time. Same thing with Assassin's Creed and Splinter Cell. Yeah, we were normally tied up and couldn't get away for that long. I will say Splinter Cell looks like one of the best games coming out That too. I mean that just based off the stuff you and I saw comic on Gus. I'm still really excited about that. They're both ubi stuff, right? Yeah They got a good ubi ubi. What do you say ubi ubi ubi soft?
Starting point is 00:24:37 Whatever you be soft ubi newy ubi gentle. I say ubi soft to hey high five. We're brothers Actually it would be soft to hey five. We're brothers The at a high five sound effect. I know because we didn't actually doing I say the funniest the funniest booth The Gus and I must have spent 30 minutes watching was a dark side. There's which also a fun game They had a mechanical bull. Well, it was a mechanical horse a mechanical horse is like one of the four horse mince horse and Watching people try to ride that thing people. They shouldn't be riding it was a lot of fun. Did you get up there? No? No, no, no, no, no, no Just standing on the sidelines of life. We were saying it other people mocking it, you know like yeah, what do we call that one guy? The Qui-Gun Jin guy
Starting point is 00:25:15 Oh, man, I was interested like Qui-Gun Jin. Yeah, it was Whatever whatever The dude is fat. I'm your fucking heartless whatever quite a big quite a big yeah the the the the the the the
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Starting point is 00:25:43 the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the sadistic because they were knocking people around. I saw something. I was also. I read an article I was gonna make a joke that they were probably filming a reality show there and you signed a waiver that you could appear. They're probably just making you jiggle around. But I read an article where are gay and ticco doing a reality show? What? Yeah, they're doing a reality show. Like on TV? I don't know. They were talking about a red and article with them on... Is that what that comic was about? A gamma sutra or something like that? And they said they were interviewing them while their
Starting point is 00:26:12 reality crew was around them with boom mics and television cameras. Wow. It's pretty interesting. They're pretty funny guys. They're very funny guys. Yeah. They take a head of baby. Yeah, I heard about that. He had a baby and it was back at the guys. Yeah. They, Tyco had a baby. Yeah, I heard about that. He had a baby and was back at the event. Yeah. Well, he had a big panel, you know, in their panels, they have, they fill that whole room.
Starting point is 00:26:31 That's like, well, how many people do you think fill that room? That mean, I don't even know, dude. It was bigger this year than ever before. I'm going to say like 100,000 people. There was 12 million people in the main theater. It was a lot. Yeah, so Courts took over a little bit for Tyco for one of their panels and then Tyco
Starting point is 00:26:47 was able to make it back for it. So that was really cool to come back, I thought. That's kind of the worst part about, or one of the worst parts about PAX is when you're there you're working on the booths, you don't really get the opportunity to go and check out other panels. Nope. Like I've only seen Gabe and Tyco two or three times over the six years now. Yep.
Starting point is 00:27:01 We've done PAX and I always like, always said that I don't get to see him. I try to go to as many panels as I can That's my new thing. I like to go to different panels like comic con because we never did that stuff before we just walk walk the exhibition floor Right, and it's pretty fun to go to panels and see you know what people are talking about and see what people are interested in But I didn't go to any gaming panels. That seems like if I'm gonna do that I just go play the game on the floor Yeah, I feel like like I went by the Ubisoft. That's me open in the beer, like, I went by the Ubisoft, that's me opening the beard by the way. I went by the Ubisoft panel, or the Ubisoft Assassin's Creed Splinter Cell,
Starting point is 00:27:31 Conviction, it's like a lineup panel, and there were like 10,000 people in line. I was like, why the fuck would you wait, probably three hours in line to look at four minutes of video game footage that you're gonna see on the internet tomorrow anyway, in HD? Well, if you're like, you're like me, you're gonna see on the internet tomorrow anyway in HD. Well if you're like you're like me get a frag though let's tell you to fuck off. Oh dude that was fun.
Starting point is 00:27:50 I got the cold shoulder man. That was great. That was pretty funny. They were doing some cool leading up to that cold shoulder it was awesome. Yeah they were doing some really cool. They were walking around in white assassins creed to hoodies and they all had their hoodies up and they were walking like a group of monks from Assassin's Creed like in a group like all bundled really tightly together and it was it was cool and kind of weirdly creepy It was really creepy like as soon as burning cuz you and I were walking over and as soon as we saw it We both had like the same reaction like what the fuck yeah, I was like being in a video game when you weren't expecting to be and it was really kind of
Starting point is 00:28:21 Desire it's kind of a mega 64 thing. Yeah, kind of kind of kind of and expecting to be and it was really kind of bizarre. It was kind of a mega-64 thing. Yeah, kind of. Kind of. And we were just walking along and I, and then I realized, they started taking their hoods down when they got to the event, and I realized it was the fried dolls.
Starting point is 00:28:32 And so it was broke, I said, I said, I go, God, that's really funny. That's brilliant what y'all are doing. And what did she say? She turned to me and says, you don't have any idea what we're doing. Like, fuck off, dude. I was like, wow. All right. So you got your head bitten off. I did, man. You don't have any idea what we're doing. Like fuck off dude! Wow!
Starting point is 00:28:46 So you got your head bitten off. I did man, apparently I was, compliments were not due I guess at that point in time. I was not complimenting during the appropriately assigned complimenting period. Did you ever forgot what they were doing? Who gives a fuck?
Starting point is 00:29:02 You know, they were marketing a game and being awesome girl gamers. I mean, you know, I'm sure, you know You know who cares the later later like towards the end of the event on Sunday speaking a Brooke Brooke and Amy came by the booth to say hi and I showed them those things those And I don't I'm not gonna say their names, but they show I showed them those cheating devices Yeah, that's fucking bullshit. They were selling at the booth and they both look like I punched them after I showed them that. Dude, speaking of punching, they said that we found these devices that they were selling
Starting point is 00:29:32 at packs that you can add into your Xbox controller that make all of your triggers rapid fire, which seems like total bullshit to me. And I showed it to Broken Amy and they just looked really sad. And I said, well, you know at professional gaming events You know they the events applies controllers, right and broken Amy said no at professional gaming events you bring your own controller That's so stupid. Yeah, they'll have to change that they're gonna have to change that. Yeah, but it's not it's not a new thing These things been around for ages. No, it is weird that in the middle of a gaming exhibition They would have a cheating device like how did they get approved to be there, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:06 That's like when we went to Comic Con the first year and we were next to booths that were boot lagging RVB discs along with, of course, you know, tons of other bootleg discs. It just seems weird that that would be in there. And Comic Con has cleaned that up. You know, I can't imagine that, I can't imagine they knew what they were there to sell. Yeah, and I can't imagine that I can't imagine you what they were there to sell. Yeah, and I can't. I can't. I'm talking about people getting punched out. I can't imagine every
Starting point is 00:30:28 game developer at that event didn't walk over and you know punch out every single due to that booth. Yeah, these guys were kind of hidden in another booth. Like the booth they were in was like selling gaming headsets or something. And then these guys were like there was a sign that was like all of our controllers are modified with this device. And we tried it out Jeff and I played a scary game of world at war and like you switched your pistol and you pull the trigger and all your buttons all your bullets fire instead you sniper rifle becomes a machine gun that would be crazy for the for the new pistol and ADST yeah that's one of those it fires as fast as you can pull the trigger guns mm-hmm man that is awesome
Starting point is 00:31:00 headshot grunt there is such a yeah that's such a I don't know great feeling the headshot grunts with that pistol yeah it's like it's's the best thing. Headshot and grunt. There is such a, yeah, that's such a, I don't know, great feeling to headshot grunts with that pistol. Yeah. It's like the grunt head was designed for that. Or maybe the pistol was designed for the grunt head. Maybe. Can I say something? So.
Starting point is 00:31:17 You keep bringing up this cheating thing. Like, he keeps bringing up to people that came to the booth, Gus, doing this. And he seems like he's down on it, yet he keeps carrying them around and like showing them to people and then going to the booth and trying them. Like you seem like you're like, I was curious about it.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Yeah, you seem like you're oddly like endorsing this thing. And to me, it's utter bullshit. Yeah, totally. Yeah, but it's a weird thing, but like you're like, what do you think about this? This is weird, huh? I want to talk to people and see what they think about it. Why is it, why is there a weird thing but like you're like what do you think about this is weird? I want to talk to people see what they think about it Why is it why we're a cover off a controller right there because you told me to try it out
Starting point is 00:31:50 You told me put it on one of ours did I yeah, I walked in this morning. It's a hey Gus No, it wasn't this morning. It was this afternoon before we started the podcast. I walked in it said I really want to try this thing out. Yeah, you said punch you put it on one of our controls. Oh is that the way word hey gap? You were here. Hey, Gaff. You were here. Don't answer. Let's just, you and I will go outside for about 10 minutes. I walked in.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I want to get this straight. I walked in and said, you were already here. I walked in. And I said, hey, Gaff, do you remember that device that you saw at PAX? Did you happen to bring them back to the office? Is that what I did? I walked in with the device.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Oh, good you. OK. OK. And then you said you should put one of those on our controller and that's what I did Oh, and I think I and I think you should Company mandate for machinima purposes. I think you should we should try out and see if we can do different things with it That's all I was thinking I think it's interesting that you brought these these things all the way back from pack Let's say this I find it. Let me tell you something. I find it a little
Starting point is 00:32:41 Let me tell you something is what I'm saying. We brought three back. There's two here Who do you think the third is where his house? I threw it away Where is it? Where is it? Scumbags, let me tell you I haven't installed it for two there one there. I haven't installed it He just gave it to me. I said you know what? Don't like me. I'm totally innocent. I'm sitting here, clean slate. Look at me. I just want to see it.
Starting point is 00:33:08 I just want to see if it lets us do different things with machinima. I'm sure you do at your house. I'm sure you do. Maybe we'll be able to get hugged. Let me tell you something guys, the view from the high road. Pretty nice. You should try it.
Starting point is 00:33:19 How's the view from the fat road? It's delicious. I'd like to let everyone know that the episode this week is gonna be late because burning has knocked every single Controller down the back of the couch and there's another one And another one. Now they're all gone. Don't put controllers on the couch anymore. I need to, I need, who started doing that?
Starting point is 00:33:37 I need the entire couch. I think it's gotta be a Gavin thing. I saw these things that I think we should get for in here. They're, I haven't tried them so I don't know if they're really good or not, but Energizer makes a rack that you can just plug controllers into and it's like it holds them and Charges them at the same time. It's a great idea put on the wool Yeah, and there's like an LED on it that stays lit up red all around the controller and then goes green when they're fully charged nice It's a great idea. Yeah, let's do it leave it to energy or energizer Excuse me to come up with a good energy solution this portion of the podcast brought to you by Energizer and they go to Madello.
Starting point is 00:34:09 So you guys were talking a little bit of go about the World of Warcraft interactive quest givers. Yeah. And that brought up something in my mind that we haven't talked about yet, which is that old Republic has announced that their quest giving mechanism is gonna be cutscenes. And I was wondering how you guys felt about that. Yeah, it's all gonna have voice over and- Full voice over cutscenes. I don't think I like that.
Starting point is 00:34:39 15-15 novels of dialogue. I hadn't heard cutscenes. What I had heard is just that the quest givers talk in game I saw it looked like I cutscene and I don't know about you guys But the first thing I do when I load a wow or reinstall it or anything like that is Make the fast text requests quick text or whatever. Yeah a lot of times. I'll be honest. I don't even read the quest Yeah, I'm the same way, but this is Star Wars man. You want to be immersed in that shit, right? Yeah, it's Star Wars today You're in half an hour. It's gonna be an MMO, you know what I mean when you're gonna be like okay, what do I need?
Starting point is 00:35:10 I need five tribbles. Okay, I'll go get that star check. I'm sure there'll be a way to disable that and make it make it quick I'm sure they'll have the enabled fast fast quest fast cutscene That's quite a bit of a talk look at the special edition cutscene everything's sped up and little kid voices Do you have a play do you have a put in a game and then just skip the opening cutscene? I don't think I've ever done that. I did that in ODST, do you remember that? By accident. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I sat around waiting to, whoops. I do it all the time, which is why I play through entire games not knowing all the fucking controller buttons. Well, you, I've had to explain Giza Wauti, you don't know what the story is with that. I've beaten both games now. Yeah, there you go. I was, I saw the opening cutscene in ODSst and there's a part of it where you can like look around and Just as a natural function of looking around I decided well
Starting point is 00:35:53 I'm trying to start trying to interact with things and hit a button and then I skipped the cutscene like the last Probably what one quarter of that cut so don't do that but you play odst man speaking the odst We just saw that live action ODST commercial. Fuck, dude, that was awesome. That thing was fucking, that made me want to heal him, it was so badly, man. We are ODST. We are ODST? God damn.
Starting point is 00:36:15 You got it, you got it to look for that in the link dump. Yeah, I'll add that for sure. I think it's the same guy who did the Halo 3 Believed commercial. Which were awesome too. Yeah, which were fantastic. Yeah. But this is even cooler. Yeah, this is really, really well. That's some great show. I love that. I mean, it's in it's in ODST the game as well
Starting point is 00:36:28 But the visor effect was like yeah, you don't see their face anymore very very cool It's very cool to see that on a live action guy and not in game I thought you know and it's it's futuristic She don't know I felt the helmets didn't feel like that in that last scene They had a lot of weight to them, but that would be like literally the only thing to complain about and that whole thing for me. Wait, but I look too light. They just look, yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I agree. You don't know what they're made of either. You know what I mean? I can tell you as a soldier who had to wear helmets and the army for five years, you would want them to be light. That shit fucking sucks. Oh yeah. There's like a pressurization that constantly
Starting point is 00:37:00 the heavy ass Kevlar helmets, like the worst thing in the world that's rattling around. Well, it's an bullet. Yeah, way worse than a bullet. And what planetary colony were you fighting on again? I was on planet weight. They should have a version of Jeff in these military games where you're some dude running around with a camera.
Starting point is 00:37:19 You'd be like in the Jeff and you saw me. I would. You'd be like the fatal frame carry. Hey, low me is fatal frame. I'm a frame-hable crossover. But we started watching other stuff that that guy done, was his name, like, Rupert Sanders. Yeah, I watched it.
Starting point is 00:37:30 I watched it. Oh, and then dude. His other commercial stuff, and it's like shoe commercials. And then, and me and Gus were having a discussion on the fact that if you're doing a shoe commercial or car commercial, you don't have to have it. It doesn't have to be to do with a car or a shoe. You can shoot whatever the fuck you want and then put a car at the end And I said because a lot of times when you when you're showing a commercial like that
Starting point is 00:37:49 You're not selling the product necessarily it's just a lifestyle you're reminding people Yeah, that's not true because you're selling the product you're selling the shoe you're not selling a way of life No, I totally agree with Gus on this one. Well, there's a surprise Yeah, what are you trying to say different Jeff and Gustav Wright. What is the surprise? Jeff and Gustav Wright again. But what else can you advertise without having any, like, no reference to it. No shots of it. MTV. Licker.
Starting point is 00:38:15 How about fucking douche? Campons? You never see, you never see like, you never seem like inserts like this in a fucking camp. I'm sure there's just lady. They're daughter walking down the beach Bunchy you were talking about all those computer easy. It is to walk with CG tampons that expand and stuff That's all science See I gotta agree with giving on that when you they always show like the wings like like expanding or whatever did I didn't know there were wings on a tampon. I'm the fucking maxi pads the same thing
Starting point is 00:38:43 Some day all the girls. Something you're all about. Something different. You know, only in this podcast, could we go from an awesome ODST live halo action trailer to wings on tampons and maxi-pads. That's my bad. It was his fault. Oh, it was his bad. It was Jep's fault.
Starting point is 00:38:56 That shot, when that- We never see condoms and condoms commercials. That pod opens and the ODST barrels out of there and this camera just stays with them. Just just because he's like completely enclosed in that pod and the camera's behind him and then the door jacks off and follows him out is it reminded me of that shot in the new terminator movie which I didn't like but I like that one shot where he crashes the chopper and the camera just stays on the whole time and then he climbs out have you seen it no no it's a great shot it's a great really long shot it made me think of more like storming Normandy like a yeah
Starting point is 00:39:24 private Ryan kind of thing. Where you're in it in close space, then you hit, and then you got to hit the ground running. Yeah, because you're a fucking target immediately. You know, the thing about the books, though, with Halo, which is going to be tough for the movies, and they haven't really shown in any of either the Blomkamp shorts that originally came out of this thing,
Starting point is 00:39:42 I mean, he literally fights one brute that shows up. I mean, one brute in the middle of an empty field. And, you know, the books in the field, yeah, they mean these are massive planetary invasions, you know, and they have a lot of troops because they're pulling from five different races. Right, a covenant is loads of different races, valines, right?
Starting point is 00:40:00 Yeah, and, you know, it's gonna be tough to pull that off in any kind of movie, you know. You should make a lot of forests, you know. Those's gonna be tough to pull that off and he kind of movie, you know, you should make a lot of forests You know those big open planes you're gonna have to have like a Lord of the Rings style army right set up, you know You know, maybe not that big, you know It's just a massive troop because they also have vehicles and everything else, but damn this thing was awesome, dude I mean really really awesome. Yeah, it's fantastic. Hey, is there anything else from PAX we should talk about? How is your panel? We get yeah
Starting point is 00:40:25 How was our panel? I didn't get to see I had to stay home. I'd stay in Austin The panel was great. I love the panel when really we showed four videos They all got great responses right the episode I wore the exclusive Well, maybe We showed secret door which is our dinner website. Yeah, episode 12, which was an out We showed that ODST piece which isn't out yet anyway, right? It will be out soon Yeah, the final viral and then a little bit of our a little bit of this week's live action short. Yeah
Starting point is 00:40:56 And then a great Q&A like the problem with our Q&A is the past of PAX is we always had like an hour and a half long panel And the just the Q&A is kind of drag on if you don't have stuff to show Right, and we tried to we tried to be smart about this time and fill some of that time with video and that word I thought worked really well And all the questions we had were for the most part great this year Yeah, then we even had the video before we went out on a stage. We even showed a video. We showed the episode 12 Oh, right. And then we went out. Oh, you opened on that. Yeah, ask it And once again, of course we gave I mean inner Q&A. There's very little a
Starting point is 00:41:29 Lots of lots of a hole. There's a lot of Q and F you It's just you know everywhere the the question askers are essentially end up playing the straight man in that process, but yeah It's a very fun time, I think We we were I don't know if Jack told you this could be enough But we wore shirts that spelled out boner fun time, I think. We wore, I don't know if Jack told you this, giving up, but we wore shirts that spilled out boner. Yeah, I did. Which took some convincing to get Bernie to go along with. It really did.
Starting point is 00:41:50 It really took some convincing. But people went nuts for it, they loved it. And I had people come up to me later and say, that was the funniest thing ever. Luckily, everyone else was willing to play along really easily. So Bernie got dragged into it. I would have done it anyway. Fugged, the best part about that panel to me was Matt showed
Starting point is 00:42:05 up. He had been up for like 36 straight hours working on Secret Door and he, somebody came up and gave us a six pack of beer or a 12 pack of beer in the panel. Matt took like what I'm guessing with like four ships of beer and ten minutes later was completely drunk. He got drunk during the panel. He got drunk during the panel and then you guys took off. Gus and I, we all went out to Red Mill, this hamburger place, and we were in the line at Red Mill and that goes, we need more beer. And we're like, I don't think he can drink beer at a fast food restaurant. Next thing we know, he was running off across the street to a grocery store.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Gus had a chase after him and when you caught up with him, he couldn't, he couldn't pay for the chicken. He was in the self checkout line, swiping his credit card over and over. He was like a robot, like stuck in a loop. And I walked up to him and I was like, hey man, how's it going? He's like, oh, I'm going to get some beer. I was like, oh, you got to hit the pay now button on the thing before he slept. I had to walk him through the process.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Surprise, the fucking cashier didn't kick us out. It was funny. And then what did you do with the beer? Then I was like, oh, let me carry that for you Matt. So I grabbed the 12 pack. He's like oh thanks. Like we walk outside we walked and then I walk with him to the front door of the of the burger place and opened the door like yeah go ahead. He's like okay he walks in like close the door behind him and run to the car and I put the beer in the car and locked it. Nothing will nothing will so be faster than a huge ass hamburger though though. So, in the trick. Are there any rules in stores?
Starting point is 00:43:27 If you come in drunk and try and buy beer, they allow to stop you. Absolutely. Because you're too drunk. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Did they do that in England or are they required to? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I was just thinking about it, though. They definitely can in a pub. They were like, we're not serving any more. Why don't you go home and test it out? What do you want me to leave? Is that what you need? No, like when you go home, get hammered and try to go into waitros and buy like an orange and some beer
Starting point is 00:43:45 Okay, see what they do man. You know, I got refused eggs once Why why cuz it was Halloween and I was gonna go and get a house But they they were seeing you and I was they didn't sell me If only they'd cut the people who were who bought those 18 eggs for my car well I once got hit in the bulls with a frozen egg on Halloween Why would you go for the trouble of freezing an egg because it fucking hurts I mean I mean I guess if you throw a rock at someone that's like you can be arrested but if it's an egg
Starting point is 00:44:18 It's like well it's only an egg and then plus slowly it Thaws out and then you've got a fucking messy egg. It's like the ice bullet crime scene You can get away with it because it it it falls out and then you've got a fucking messy egg. It's like the ice bullet crime scene You can get away with it because it it throws out Regular egg is a dead guy here with swollen balls Looks like a chicken attacked him Well it came across a crime scene. There's a knock-dow guy With swollen balls and the baby chicken walk What happened? So speaking of...
Starting point is 00:44:48 So was the baby chicken be like an ODST in that case? He's like in the fucking little pod. He breaks out the camera follows him. He was ready to drop. Oh man. Oh, what's that? Good times, I appreciate it. So how's your car?
Starting point is 00:45:04 How's your little beamer? I have no idea. He's scared to go to the other side. Did you actually clean the egg off it? Or are you like fuck it? It's on that now. I don't know, dude. I haven't cleaned it. I haven't seen the car since we talked about it last time. So it's still sitting out there in front of your old house? Yeah, in theory. What are you doing? Let's go and get it. Let's go and get it today. I'm gonna go get it today. I'll go get it today. Dude, we should document it. I'm gonna film it just in case it doesn't start again.
Starting point is 00:45:24 He had to go to PAX. He didn't have time. Yeah, like I did it because I was trying to get it done The last time we went out there So I'm trying to get done before packs and we have been gone. Hey, do you know what sucks? I came into work yesterday Just I was Monday that does suck and a nobody fucking told me it was an American holiday Nobody else turned up. Is there anyone here with Brandon? We were tired. You're not American so fuck off. Yeah, you know get our holidays. Is that recall you lost? You can take off hot tea day wherever the fuck you take off over there. You can get guy cuz that's every day of this month You can get guy thoughts day off and that's about it. Do you not have guy folks? No, why would we?
Starting point is 00:45:56 Firework day. Oh, you have that on the 4th of July right? What is guy Fox day? Fifth and November. November. Yeah, it's firework night have a bonfire throw a dummy on it yeah what's the deal with what is guy Fox what's the history behind the guy who tried to blow up what was it bunking no the house of parliament also have a holiday for this guy what so we like we we have yay terrorists we should have an awesome up in London day it's like a whole gunpowder thing and yeah I don't know I don't I'm I'm really shit history especially my own history
Starting point is 00:46:26 For shame, but really you guys celebrate a guy who tried to blow up your government I think we celebrate the fact that he that he was caught Is it I don't know so You you guys also you guys are big into that you guys celebrate Robin Hood that dude was a fucking thief I don't when do we celebrate robin the international robin hood day Don't try to stop him before we know about. You know, fucking. And then when the one where they pinch you, if you don't wear a green hat,
Starting point is 00:46:51 like the feather in it. I was talking to Brandon at lunch yesterday about, because he didn't know the difference between the UK and Great Britain and England. We've had this discussion before. Oh, yeah. Right, right. So let me test you. It's not that we don't know the difference the difference is that you don't know that all Americans don't know that you don't know something about us
Starting point is 00:47:09 It's that no American knows difference between England great Britain and the Do you know the difference do I yes I do I do I'm very confident. What about you guys? I'm not as confident as I go for it. Give it a go No, no, no, why are you asking the one is a little confident because it'll be funny Yeah, no fuck that I don't care. All right. We beat your asses already All right. I don't need to know. Well, I know that New Zealand is a separate country. What to to the UK yet It's what is South Africa you made the mistake of thinking New Zealand's part of Australia I never I never did that what I
Starting point is 00:47:38 What I did was I said we went down to Australia and as part of that trip We went to Wellington and that's when I got called out by the time. They're very sensitive about it. I didn't understand that's what had happened. Okay. I even had to do, like, come at me again about that. It's like, how could you confuse New Zealand with Australia anyway?
Starting point is 00:47:54 So, those are definitely two accents you don't want to confuse either when you're down there. I'm gonna try to do this. You want to sound smart, just a... Britain is the island, the big island. Great Britain. Yeah, great Britain is the island, the main big island, the big island. Great Britain. Great Britain is the island, the main big island, right?
Starting point is 00:48:07 The UK is England, Scotland, and Northern Ireland. And Wales. And Wales. The UK is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. So what the fuck is Southern Ireland? It's the Republic of Ireland. And it's nothing. It's not a part of the UK.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Where's Dublin? Where's Dublin? Yeah, that's in The Republic of Ireland. Northern. It's not Yeah, the difference is you know some stuff they also use euros and the Northern Ireland uses pounds That's got to be confusing. I guess it's confusing for the people who live in Ireland Yeah, it's also confusing to you to him because I say things like I live in Ireland, yeah. It's also confusing to you to him because I say things like I Assume he's metric, but they're not metric. They did they use miles and they use they don't use pounds for weight You stone which makes it there's pounds in stone. It's just it's just another like you wouldn't say 200 pounds You say however many stone however many stone because you don't know how many stone is it how many stone?
Starting point is 00:49:00 How many pounds are in a stone like 14 like 14? How many pounds are in a stone? Like 14? Like 14? Like 14? Is that a variable amount? It's like 13 or 14. So what is the origin of a stone? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Europe is old. That's what I can say. It's a really old tradition. That's the origin of stones is a very philosophical, theological question that I don't think we want to get. The origin of hot gas. Frozen eggs. Good lord.
Starting point is 00:49:23 So, and then Britain is in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. That's the other thing I know about it. That's about it. Do you even know that, Gavin? What ocean it's in? Yeah. Yeah, sure. I like the fact that it takes me 40 minutes on a plane to get to Amsterdam.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Do you like that fact? Yeah. How often do you get to answer them? Yeah, I was just saying. It's been twice. Yeah, I was just saying. Sounds like you really enjoy it. Yeah, congratulations.
Starting point is 00:49:52 You should come down there, buddy. I also haven't ever been to Wales, and that's like two hours away. I don't even know what that is. Probably should. What is that? Wales is a country. It is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Christian Bayo as well. Yeah, I know Wales. Would you say somebody's Welsh? I just thought it was a region of the UK. Did I ever show you that? No, there's actually a Welsh language. Oh, you did. The street sign.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Did I ever show you that? The street sign. Did I ever show you that? The street sign. Did I ever show you that? The street sign. Did I ever show you that? The street sign.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Did I ever show you that? The street sign. The street sign. The street sign. Link dump. Yeah, I'll put that in the link dump. But they have their own language there. And I guess they have to put, when they have street signs, they have to put them in Welsh and in English. Yeah. sign up that said like all trucks must turn right and follow this road, you know, or whatever. And the Welsh version, if you translate it from Welsh back to English, said, I am out
Starting point is 00:50:29 of the office, please forward all translation, all translation work to so and so. You're kidding, I'm just kidding. And it said that on the fucking side. That's fucking awesome. You know the translation dude and his auto responder replied. That's okay, that's it. Wow. Wow, that's it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Wow, that's crazy. A lot of bright people going to work in in your region. There was somebody, I forget who it was. O'Jayson wrote something positive about Microsoft tech support for the 360. Right. And then a few minutes later, the 360 Twitter feed started following him like there was some kind of 360 support feed that like some kind of bot that followed him and Then I went and looked at that feed and the people following it and and it was a Sony bot in there as well
Starting point is 00:51:16 And then it's like other one that was like clearly a bot And then there was like one of these spam girl bots. It's like, come see me, come see my profile or whatever. Sure. And then I just kind of, I just did a little drilling and I eventually got to like one of these bot profiles that was being followed by nothing but other bots and that's kind of creepy. Yeah, they have their own little bot. Yeah, they're like community. Yeah, here's this little conversation that's taking place
Starting point is 00:51:38 between all these not real people. And they're just, they're all responding to one another and they'll join each other's network. Did they just find each other by fluke and like how did they start following each other? I have no idea. I have no idea. They probably just... I guess if you unleash enough bots into a community they'll eventually find each other and become friends. I mean, if you're gonna take like two aim chat bots and have them start talking to each other and let it run forever and see if like...
Starting point is 00:52:04 See where you end up? Eventually they'll come up with a complete works of Shakespeare or they'll take over the fucking world yeah that's frightening stuff man it's like that video we saw of the robotic hands I wonder how crazy I wonder how quickly that conversation between two aim bots would take place that's a good question yeah sure be like milliseconds between responses like like a machine gun of conversation.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Right. I bet you could have like the whole works of Shakespeare in two minutes. Yeah, they just attach one of those things to the controller and then get together. Break it down. It's frightening. It was just really creepy and weird to get in there
Starting point is 00:52:36 and like you're like crashing a private party of terminators. Yeah, yikes. Hey, what was the place you and I went to with our friend Lori to get cupcakes Gus? Trophy cupcake god damn if anybody goes to Seattle you should go to trophy cupcakes. The place was good That place was great. That's one of the few times in my life I've been somewhere else and I thought Austin doesn't have a Version of this that's comparable if you need to use the bathroom there the code's 5 7 9 6 5
Starting point is 00:53:00 This is guys bathroom just throwing that out there. What's up your homeless and listening to the podcast? Yeah, here's a little sanctuary for you. So you can't pay unless you know a code. Yeah. Yeah. This is a big sign in the door that says go ask a merchant for the code. It's pretty cool. The the store is in a grade school like an old like old grade school like two-story grade school and then it's they just filled it with like That's kind of a mall on the inside. But anyway, eat those fucking cupcakes because they're fantastic What was your favorite cupcakes? That's sad. That's sad. They took a school and turned it into a mall better than turning it, turning it down. It's not like, it's not like a fucking tap in it. It was like a 200 year old mall.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Like a 20 year old school. And they just, they put cool stuff in like the trophy place and a small local retailer. Yeah. It was really cool. I don't like that. Why would, why would you ever disable an educational facility? I was assuming it was already not in use. I don't think they kicked the kids out of class one day and replaced them with cupcakes. I'm sure that they've moved to a bigger grade school and then the place was empty and they were like, we can tear it down
Starting point is 00:53:55 and we can find some cool way to reuse it. I'm sure it was so old it had lead paint and it's best to solve over the fine place. So it's open a cupcake factory. Yeah, let's let fat people come in here. So what you're saying is, once you've built a school, it should be a school forever. Yeah, pretty much. And when it's no longer a school anymore, tear it down and then it's gone. No, you don't tear it down because it's not like the population is shrinking. And the market for education is in decline. Dude, I went to a
Starting point is 00:54:19 brand new high school in 1989. They didn't, they didn't, they we outgrew the old high school in 1989 they didn't We out grew the old high school so we had to build a new one At least this way and they tore the old one down at least this way they reuse that space Why not why not build another school another smaller school with a lower Student-to-teacher ratio with double the teachers and administrators you're you're on the same pages me now But forget about it. I'm sure the cupcakes were great. They're great More cupcakes cupcakes win good lord. What a weirdo. Oh, how I fucking weirdo huh? I mean don't get me wrong. You put in front of me a plate of cupcakes and a teacher I will probably choose the cupcakes but on a theoretical level. Let's go with the teachers in the schools
Starting point is 00:55:02 What How many dollars did this debate? How can you not understand what I'm saying? I was just debating what you're saying. I just disagree with you. Tell me, you're going to need to take a 200-year-old school that's probably a cooler building in some goddamn new facility that they're going to build
Starting point is 00:55:20 for an elementary school and you're going to say that they should turn into a fucking mall. It was too small to be a school anymore. Well, you can build a fucking magnet school or school for you know artists Or sell to private school. I guess I guess I get maybe they tried nobody wanted. Why are you so passionate about that? Who cool fucking cares? Because I hate this idea that we're gonna take a school and turn it into like some kind of like Commercial facility and it wasn't okay with that anymore and even when I bring it up There's like, you know what? Don't don't blame the fucking cupcake people their saviors Blame the city of Seattle for allowing that school to go on use. I'm not blaming the cupcake. Oh, what about I think you have an anti-cup cake agenda. I
Starting point is 00:55:56 They were good cupcake. I had one. They were good. You should go there. All right Get the one with marshmallows. So he got so passionate. He ripped the mic. I'm pulling started sitting up There's a buddy never sits up during the puck. Don't tell her about the Kennedy School in Portland. You make fucking blow up. Yeah. Kennedy School's a fantastic school for very smart children. That plays awesome.
Starting point is 00:56:13 It's not. I'll put it in the link down. Thank you. So, Bernie. I just want to say I'm both pro-education and pro education and pro cupcake. I want to ask you a question. Apparently you can't have it both ways. Yeah. Bernie, what game, what games are you going to buy for your PS3? I'll buy a little big planet probably and then uncharted because everyone tells me I have to play
Starting point is 00:56:37 uncharted. Yeah, I said I was going to buy that before Comic Con. I still haven't. I need to buy that. Yeah. And I'll play Killzone probably. Oh yeah, that one's another one I want to buy. That's still nothing. How can it be if there's nothing on the PS3 that I want to play? If there's Co-op, we should play together. Let's play Co-op together. Do you think you get it? You feel excluded, Jeff?
Starting point is 00:56:53 No, it's Co-op possible on a PS3. I don't know how that would be. You have to have like nine logins. Honestly, I don't know. You have to have a developer log in, a publisher log in, a Sony log in. You still have to do that stupid thing where you enter a name by using numbers?
Starting point is 00:57:05 They finally patched it after launch. Watching who came up with that? How did that get released with that system? So we still have that. You had to have a wee number or something like that. No, what he's talking about. I'm talking about a lot of stuff. I'm talking about his phone pad.
Starting point is 00:57:18 When PS3 first came out, the initial shipping firmware, when you would enter your username and all that stuff, it was a T9 pad. You had to text it in. There was no keyboard. Like to do dinner. Why you'd have to hit the WXYZ key three times. Yeah. Right. If that's crazy. If it's anything like watching you try to play Metal Gear on the PS3 on multiplayer. Oh God. They're familiar. Yeah, you have to sign into the PSN. They're not to like the Konami service. And I didn't have an account. So I had to make an account. So I had to launch the web browser, and I had to make a fucking account on the Konami website.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Then it redirected me back into the game. Yeah, that was horrible. It was like a 30 minute process for you to play a single game. Service within a service, that's terrible. Yeah. That's why I love Xbox Live. I love it.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Do you? Well, you pay for it, too, some difference. Yeah, there's a balance there. You got to pay for your Xbox Live. You don't have to. Silver account. You can't play online with silver accounts. Why if I don't want to?
Starting point is 00:58:09 I don't know what I can do. I don't know what you fucking can. Is it play, why is everyone so combative? Kid lord. What do you get for a silver account? You get market place, right? Achievements. You get marketplace and achieve.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And you can send people messages. I don't know if you can, but you can download games and stuff from marketplace. And you can download the demo, yeah. Yeah, from one place. And you can download that, yeah. Yeah, and deals. So I'm going to add some deals. Some deals see it's gold exclusive, but not all. I'm going to ask you potentially inflammatory questions. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:58:32 It's the fucking anger couch that I do it. No, no, no, no. This is not, I mean, this is not an angry thing. I'm just asking a question that I'm not sure how the service works. I'm going to guess it doesn't work the way I'm about to say it does. So if Microsoft makes $50, say, per year for gold subscribers, and then someone makes a big hit on multiplayer which drives those subscriptions, do you think Microsoft pays the developer like some kind of commission or kickback?
Starting point is 00:59:00 No, I wouldn't think so. Or do you think they probably actually charge them to have access to their gold Subscriber database. Yeah, I don't know I mean Microsoft might might just paying a lot of money to To maintain those servers that they're using right? Yeah, but that's what the 50 bucks a year per person goes to I guess that's true. You can imagine this will cost a lot On a lot of bandwidth right I have a computer I don't do any it just works I mean they just plug their DSL modem into the fucking Microsoft server banks in the phone
Starting point is 00:59:29 They have comcast cable. We're good. It's like man. It's like you make a bit up That's crazy, you know that's something we really like behind in Austin. We have time Warner cable here Which while trying to stay up as objective as a Ken is a gigantic piece of shit. And I switched away from them. Yeah, Gus is on Grande now. Are you? After they threatened to implement bandwidth caps, when I moved, I ditched time-order.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Yeah. I mean, you have to- For the first time in 10 years, I do not have time-order service. I was in like their cable modem beta for Roadrunner when it was here. And they've been my internet source provider ever since then Yeah, and they can go stick so fat baseball bad up their asses What's a fat baseball ball ball? Yeah, yeah, softball bad up their asses one of those big red ones you get by four year olds I want you to tell the story about the guy who installed your new cable the guy who installed my cable though
Starting point is 01:00:19 Grande was a little crazy He was like talking to himself the whole time. Oh, yeah, He was climbing the pole up behind my house to get the cable running and he came down and he was angry because there was an equipment up on the pole so he took his hard hat off and threw it into the street. Fucking awesome. He had to go and climb another pole. He was screaming at the pole. I used to work in the telephone industry. We used to know guys that climb poles because a lot seems like a lot of the executives, that was the entry level thing that people did like back in the 60s and 50s, they would climb poles. Pretty crazy stories.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Dude, speaking of crazy, we didn't know this Gus and I just found this out about Nathan. You know, before this, he worked at AT&T as like some kind of manager. And they was at AT&T pole climbing strike, I guess. And they shipped all the managers out to West Texas and Nathan had to climb polls and like, it was the most telephone. It was a big deal. For like, for like a week. I mean, he got like seven minutes of training and then a fucking like a strapped a climb on poll with.
Starting point is 01:01:16 So is that, what's the pay like? Because that's quite a dangerous job, right? Climb in poll is every day. I mean, if you do it enough times, you're eventually going to have an accident. I'm assuming they're really innocent. Like, I have to climb a ladder to get into bed when I'm staying at yours. And the amount of times I've slipped and almost got my leg caught in a rung of the ladder and it could have ended badly so many times.
Starting point is 01:01:33 If I had to do this every day, multiple times. You know how those poles have those metal handles, right? There's no handles for the first 10 feet of the pole or whatever to discourage from climbing. Right. Kids would get up and stuff. I just always assumed that those people brought a ladder with them that to get up there and then would start climbing the dude from Grande who did my installation had like these spikes on his feet like his
Starting point is 01:01:51 face braces on his legs yeah and then just like like with those with those spikes on the bonds of his shoes like climbed up those first 10 feet he got like a little running start was like I wonder how often that's all I can tell you I can tell you a story from a guy that I knew and they were out in like West Texas. A lot of times when they climb these poles they're doing repair work and you think about what downs a phone line. You don't want to be climbing a pole in that environment. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Because it's like thunder and lightning on the horizon or just past and you're like go up the pole and let's get the service restored. But imagine if you can like despite your touch by the interior of your right feet It's exactly where they are. Yeah, and so you dig them into the wooden pole to climb up it But then for your hands you have a belt that goes around the pole and then you grab it Mm-hmm. So that you like loop it up for bracing then lift your feet up and go up like that Me to watch a lumberjack show and see that it's fucking 2009. We should have better technology These are like I said these are dudes who are doing this back in the 50s
Starting point is 01:02:44 I mean now they probably have cherry pickers. I've heard crazy stories about them going from pole to pole via helicopter to do it fast. There's companies that do that. I know a lot of women that do that. Anyway, that he's going with his buddy and they're going like, I'll take this pole, you take that pole and they're like talking to each other and like yelling to the next pole and they're going up, and he watched his friend go to the top of the poll,
Starting point is 01:03:07 and miss the top of the poll with the belt. So he goes over the top of the poll, has nothing and falls off backwards, goes down 40 feet and lands on his head. And he's yelling to him and his friend's dead, and he has to go down the poll to get over to him. So he just flipped it over the top of the poll. Like missed, probably he did it a hundred times that day, and just missed the top of the poll just flipped it over the top of the pole. Like missed, probably
Starting point is 01:03:25 you did it a hundred times that day and just missed the top of the pole and came off the top of the pole. Oh my god. Jesus. Yeah. That was a, I couldn't imagine that scenario. That's sucky. Yeah, then I heard some other like when they were really building out networks in the late 90s, there was all these theories about how to get these lines out everywhere. And there was somebody who came up with this really crazy thing with a head of train. Do you remember this, Gus? They had a train and off the side of the train,
Starting point is 01:03:50 it was like three cars long. They had a metal pole, huge metal pole that came out from the train, out like eight feet, then went straight down into a plow. So they would go along the train track and then dig a trench next to the thing. And then at the back car, they had a spool of cable. Wow, no I'd never seen that.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Yeah and they would just go down and dig these trenches for lines and put them in. Those lines are everywhere. Yeah, it was kind of smart. Yeah. I was watching this kind of related, when we were talking about the lightning thing. I was watching a documentary about a guy who got struck by lightning just walking through a park and he, the lightning struck him like through the top of his head and he jumped like 12 feet in the air.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Like how high would you say a human can jump like a, like get their feet off the ground? Apparently 12 feet in the air. But like it's funny that lightning can make your legs more powerful than you can. Well, it's just like concentrated electricity. That's all your nervous system works is tiny bits of electricity.
Starting point is 01:04:44 But if lightning can make my legs propel me 12 feet in the air, why, I wanna train my brain to do that. Hey, this feels one leaky. You should train your brain to do anything. Hey, Jeff, didn't you know a dude, or didn't you see a dude get struck by lightning once? Should I tell that story? Oh yeah, it's a long story.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I was with a guy when he got struck by lightning. When I was in senior in high school, my friends and I were driving from Alabama to New Orleans to go see Lala Paloza. And it started raining on the street and we're on the interstate in the middle of Mississippi. We're on the interstate. And it started raining. I don't know if the Gulf Coast has crazy storms unlike anywhere else I've ever been. And lightning actually struck near my car and we were like, we were like, ah, we like swerved and when we swerved, I lost control my car and I drove it into a ditch.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Also in the Gulf Coast, they had these huge ditches because it's always flooding. And so this ditch was like six or seven feet deep. And my car, all you can see of my car was like the ass of my 1981 Buick's Century. And so I get out and all my friends and I get out and we're like We like climb out of the ditch and we're getting covered in rain and my friends are like we'll stay here with a car You go get a tow truck so
Starting point is 01:05:53 I Like in hitchhike like a mile down the road to a gas station and I go up and I go Hey, I just wrecked my car. I need to get a tow from this guy and he goes I don't go out in the rain and I go You really you got to I, my friends are stranded out there. Uh, it's, they're soaking wet, we've got a carful of stuff. Please come out and he goes, I don't go out in the rain. I've got, I've had bad times. And I was like, I don't know what that means, but seriously, sorry, it's your job.
Starting point is 01:06:17 You've got to help me. And uh, he goes, fuck. And he goes and he gets in his tow truck and I get in the tow truck. And we pull out and I go, so, why do you hate the bad weather so much? And he goes, my sister's kid got struck by lightning at the beach and I go, oh wow, dude, I'm so sorry. Is she okay? And he was like, nope.
Starting point is 01:06:34 And I go, uh, well, you know what they say, lightning never strikes twice in the same place and he goes, my brother got killed by lightning. I go, uh, oh, okay, and that shut me up. And then we're driving down, and I'm looking for the mile marker where my car is, and I see all my friends standing with all of our stuff, just getting poured on, and my car's gone. And we flip around and pull it, and I'm like, where's the car, and the water took it, and took it down, and now all you can see from my car is a little bit of the roof and the antenna that had like a jack and a monitor.
Starting point is 01:07:05 And the guy goes, fuck that. And I go, you gotta get my car, you gotta get my car, and it's like, I'm not going in there. And I was like, come on, you gotta get my car, and it's lightning all around us and stuff. And so he goes in, and he has to like go underwater to hook the chain on the car. It's like a movie.
Starting point is 01:07:19 And I mean, he's like up to his waist. What did you do it? I guess I'm fucking 17 and still to do it. I don't know where to, I don't, I hooked it to the door knob. And so then he goes up and he pulls the car out. And it's really hard. He has to keep moving the truck down a little bit
Starting point is 01:07:32 because the car keeps fish tailing. It's kind of hard to explain. But eventually he's able to pull the car over this huge ditch. Well, all my friends and I watch, well, just all of our shit is getting fucking rained on. And then he goes to like move the cable disconnected and all my friends go to
Starting point is 01:07:45 I'm just standing there watching it gaps had a fucking accident. I'm standing there watching it I have I'm with five people who's a big car so there were six of us and all my friends when open like I thought there like it was like it was like perfectly time they all put their hands on the doors to open it up To let the water out because it's kind of like that scene in risky business when they open the car door and like the fish come out and Shit, you know and and the guys like like holding onto the chain and fucking lightning strikes right there and all of a sudden I hear the guy screaming and he's on the ground holding his arm like his right shoulder and all my friends are going ah! and like swinging their hands fucking lightning strikes and it didn't hit him but it hit
Starting point is 01:08:19 so close I guess it charged all the like all the fucking metal around it and they'll go stung by it and they all got electrocuted especially the guy cuz he had both hands on the chains and he was rolling around on the ground clutching his shoulder and then he gets up he gets up he just looks at me like with the maddest eyes I'm surprised he didn't electric punch my friends and I open up the car doors let all the water drain out we sat in the wet car he fucking pulls us back and then we get out and, and the guy just starts walking away from my car, and I walk up to him, and I go, how much do I owe you sir, how much do I owe?
Starting point is 01:08:50 And he just looks at me, and I'm holding my wallet out, and he put his hand in my wallet, and took every bit of money I've been doing. And it was like, I had saved all summer, it was like $300, it was all I owned in the world. And just walked away with it. So then we drove the fucking wet-ass car to New Orleans, and found a western union,
Starting point is 01:09:04 and I had to get my parents to send me my money. I can't believe your car's short. Yeah. It's the word. And then I did a horrible thing. I got to the hotel and I parked it and I left it for five days so the entire car was milled when we came in. I had it when I got home.
Starting point is 01:09:17 We had to drive home for three hours in that milled room. I got home I had to pull the seats out and the carpet and steam clean everywhere. I like the fact that this will start because you tried to dodge lightning. You tried to dodge something, it was moving at the speed of lightning. What the fuck is the point in that? What did you see it coming? I did, we decided to hit it and I was like, I reacted. I was like, whoa, you know, we were like, that didn't, that was crazy. It is scary that you can get killed by this guy.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Me and Gus almost got struck by lighting a home slice. Yep. Was that true? Fucking loud. Yeah, we were picking up pizza. We were working here one night and Like lightning struck right in the street between home slicing wereos Really loud
Starting point is 01:09:51 Everyone on that street was like I was in a car. I was got struck by lightning on 15th Street Couple years ago really Right, so that happens a little bit if you get struck by lightning on a car. You'll find that yeah Yeah, I was I was making like you hit like 10 feet away Yeah, I never remember that rule. If you have rubber soles you're fine. Is that the deal? Like if you're there's rubber between you and the ground you're okay. I don't trust that. Yeah like if you're in the car it's grounded as long as you're not touching the metal the car. No the car is
Starting point is 01:10:16 not the car is not grounded. I didn't say right. It's not grounded. It's insulated. Yeah and it just as long as you got rubber tires touching. Yeah okay. Yeah see that's kind of like you're in a situation You want to know the difference between grounding the night. Yeah, I think every car has to pass lightning strike test Right to be on the road now. Is that true? Fuck you test that you just you just get one of those big balls Oh, you just like a big static. That's the science behind it Jesus, I'm sure they don't fire lightning at all the cars before they come off the I'm sure not every single individual car I'm sure there's some math involved in there. I think the moral of Jeff's story is drive a 1981 Buick century
Starting point is 01:10:50 Because that car was unkillable it went underwater and then was hit by lightning and you still could drive that guy was like and then your big problem was Mill do you the other mechanic came up and he was like there's no way that car starts and I was like You know my friends are all looking at me pissed off And I was like I just ruined the whole week and I was like You know my friends are all looking at me pissed off and I was like I just ruined their whole week And I was like fucking I'm gonna try start right up drove it all the way to New Orleans Stunk like a motherfucking It's like New Orleans seems to be a bad place for cars to go because I had that horrible story New Orleans Oh, oh
Starting point is 01:11:21 We can put this in the link them There's a picture of a guy who got struck by lightning on his back and it did something like it heated all the Capillaries and his back or something. Why are you gonna use that word it every chance you get? Sorry, what how do you say capillaries and it made some sort of weird like tree branch pattern all up his back And it looks awesome. It looked like a really cool tattoo. I never seen that. I'll have to look for it I'll show you afterwards. All right, you really do say the word capillaries more than would normally be Said in that's the first time I've said it on the podcast, but okay good for you Congratulations fucking award you say about 14 times a day dude when was last time I said it Thursday. Oh, what was the conversation?
Starting point is 01:11:59 We're talking about capillaries You said capillary. All right, was there anything else at packs? I feel like we're missing something. Capillary, things like fucking conversation killer. We got a we got to know a world with mega 64. Oh, yeah, that was fun. I wasn't part of that. Well, they hung when we showed up, we set up on Wednesday night Yeah, and then Thursday morning we came in and they had hung some animated cartoon movie poster called Romeo and Juliet It was like a Romeo and Juliet telling with seals and otters. Yeah, it was really bizarre And they were like he she she she and we're like, oh, that's cool. Okay, so we stole their cash register So the next day we stole their cash register in their big wheel that they used to interact with the audience and they came in and
Starting point is 01:12:46 Were so confused by that they must have looked at the booth for 10 minutes trying to figure out what the fuck was wrong And they couldn't place it. I've never seen somebody spend so long trying to figure out what wasn't right about their setup So to get us back they did something brilliant when we went to our panel They sold mega 64 posters for a dollar with the with the option of you can pay a dollar and then post a mega 64 poster On our booth so we came back from our panel and there were 164 posters on our booth And I think they said normally they give those posters away for free. Yeah, so they made a quick 164 bucks and small guys So then after they left we covered their entire booth floor to ceiling with red versus blue posters We even like they're individual stuff like their keyboard and wrapped it in posters.
Starting point is 01:13:28 And then we put all their luggage inside their other bigger luggage. It was like one of those Russian dolls. Yeah, and then just filled it with their trashy posters. And then we made everything in their booth backwards. And we made everything in their booths. It was like a Christmas present. When they unwrapped their booth from posters, they found everything was backwards. And then when they went to tear down at the end of the
Starting point is 01:13:45 day, they opened up all their suitcases and they were full posters. It was fun. But then they started selling those posters. Yeah, but then they started selling our posters that we used to wrap their thing up with a dollar less than we were selling them. All the people were coming up on Sunday and getting reconstruction posters signed that were all crumpled and then covered with tape. I'm like, where did you get this? And they said, yeah, we got it from May get 64.
Starting point is 01:14:11 They sold it to us. And then fucking smart. And then we sold that up posters. So if you didn't get a poster on Sunday, now you know why. I'm sorry. Don't ever wait till the last day of the convention to try to buy something. That's a good point, general. Yeah, that was rough.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Anyway, those kids are funny. Yeah. Those are the first time really hanging out with them. You's a good point in general. Yeah, that was rough. Anyway, those kids are funny. Yeah. Those are the first time I'm really hanging out with them. You should definitely check out their stuff. If you like goofy and if they're video game shit. Which, if you're listening to this podcast, you probably do. Chances already might.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Don't listen to their podcast though, because ours is better. Dude, almost any podcast with this podcast. Anything else? Alright, ready to think else before we wrap up here? Yeah. We covered packs, we covered video games, we covered in angular spasters Beatles rock band comes out this week. Yes, very very very excited for that. Are you really? Yeah I've been I've never really talked to you about it, but you're a huge huge Beatles fan Yeah, and I still play rock band a world tour all the time really?
Starting point is 01:14:58 What you think you'd have more achievements in that game. Yeah, the achievements are very well Yeah, well, we talked about getting rock band for the office. Beatles rock band for the office. Because it seems like one we would all do. So cool. Yeah, but you're gonna play it like for a few days and then it's never gonna be played again. Gus, you have to be ringo because nobody else can play the drums in this office. Okay. That's also at least talented here, I guess. That's a good point. Anything else? Movie wise what's coming out?
Starting point is 01:15:29 Extract our X-track. And then this weekend, man, open a movie in September. I can't think of anything that's coming out this weekend. Next week, Ultimate Alliance 2 comes out. Does that movie 9 comes out this week? Oh is that true? I want to see that movie. Somebody sent me a really weird personal comment that said you should go watch this interview
Starting point is 01:15:48 with the director and then replace the numbers with Greek symbols and see if this sounds familiar at all. It's like the 9 characters are split from a main one and they're all different aspects of the personality and all that stuff. Are you serious? Yeah. So I'd be interesting to go. Pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:16:03 I look at that. Yeah. I didn't realize you go co-rode a feature film Congratulations From Apple these ads this sounds like doggone avatar. I would never I would never claim such a thing Because I'm gonna come back with like some episode of you know venture brothers that's you know got that same theme in there Something yeah final destination is out nine soror hero comes out. I can do bad all by myself comes out No idea what that is white White out comes out beyond a regional but doubt and the September issue none of these things sound. Oh I read something interesting ticket sales are down this year like one and a half percent from last year but revenue is up
Starting point is 01:16:36 a couple percent because 3d has been such a success. Hmm. Well that was kind of cool. I know you're not a big fan of 3d guys. I hate it. It's a it's a bump It's a tiny bump as everyone tries 3d and then as they hate it no one will care anymore Well, no, this is like the second coming of 3d though. I agree. It's it's the one that's gonna stay I agree with you Especially when the sun's Caroline was awesome Avatar is gonna be the movie that's gonna make 3d like a standard and you know what you should do You should put the the glasses on upside down Bucking trips you out. That's it. Everything in the foreground is background and vice versa.
Starting point is 01:17:08 All right, so we're gonna see if we move twice. You know, just do it for like a minute and be like, hey, that's cool. Okay. Well, I gotta say this is that if stats like Jeff are saying are true, then everyone's just gonna start moving to 3D, guys. You should be ready for movies like Inglories,
Starting point is 01:17:24 Basterds to be 3d no but if it becomes as easy as shooting a movie like regular would you want every movie to be 3d no it why not um I actually tried a 3d setup did you see the 3d setup for Resident Evil at a oh yeah I saw it I didn't use it I put it on that was cool. I'd be more interested in 3D gaming than I would be in 3D movies. I would. 3D gaming. You know what? You asked earlier, but left for dead. Does it look like a new game? Graphics to me are the least important thing in a game. Couldn't agree more. They really are. They're very cool for the first five minutes and then it's just how does the game play. So if Halo 3 played like Halo 3, but looked like Halo 1, you'd be fine with that.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Like if it went back to Halo 2 graphics for ODST, but you kept that feeling of shooting a grunt with the pistol, that's more of the gameplay experience to me than the way it looks. I think I know, graphics are... Well, the first thing you said when Jeff was playing Wolfenstein, you were like, this looks terrible. Doesn't matter though, because one thing have fun, it's already flat. I was watching someone else play it. He noticed it because, yeah, but once he had that control on his hand for five minutes,
Starting point is 01:18:32 it wouldn't matter. It's just like, during packs, we got to go to a party at the top of the space needle, right? And it was his gorgeous view and we were all commenting on how gorgeous the view is. Two weeks of standing at the top of the space needle, you can give a fuck about that view. That's right. You used to it immediately, you don't care. Like, Bernie, Bernie got to go do this thing where he took a What do you call those things very fairy and you saw a couple whales and you were talking about how cool that was
Starting point is 01:18:53 If you saw those whales every day, you'd be like it's a fucking whales again. How long is fairy? It's like the shit you just get used to how would that get out? How would like taking a fairy? Possum whales every day. Oh, you get day? Oh, it's better than driving past You don't get to hang out with the whales. You don't get to shoot the shit with them What would you rather do go past whales on the way to work or go past cars? I wouldn't give a fuck it's the same thing After after four or five times you're not gonna see him anymore. Yeah, you're not gonna care anymore It's not once it's not new either way you're trapped in your car or you're trapped on a fucking boat
Starting point is 01:19:24 It's not once it's not you either way you're trapped in your car or you're trapped on a fucking boat Yeah, you're fucking speechless. That's right. Beach. Lose fucking Gus and Jeff won again I don't know that I necessarily agree with these comparisons, but you just don't agree with me No, what I'm saying is that when you're playing a game There's a lot more to playing a game than just the way that I agree There's a lot more but yeah the way it looks is a big deal You know what else I don't really care about I really don't care about 5.1. It has no effect on me surround sound. Yep, it really I maybe it has an effect on me In some level that I'm not aware of but I don't even notice it really I totally agree dude I got an example for you who loved in plus last time you're here. You played the shit out of in plus in plus looks horrible
Starting point is 01:20:00 It's all gameplay. It doesn't just get a good word say that you didn't fucking pick up in plus and go like Oh, this game looks sucky. I'm not gonna play it now You played it and it was fun and you didn't give a shit. There are no graphics of that game and shadow complex Nice difference. Not cake a different. Oh my god. Oh so We're moving to Seattle. Should we talk about that? We're not moving. We're not moving So Seattle's awesome my wife came with me to PAX and after 75 days over a hundred
Starting point is 01:20:31 degrees this summer in Austin, I think everyone is ready for some kind of change, but I think my wife has a direct idea for what she wants to change and that is she wants to move to Seattle. Isn't that the exact opposite there? What's the coldest place in America? Not including Alaska? Alaska? Coldest place probably like fucking Minnesota? Oh, North Dakota or South Dakota?
Starting point is 01:20:53 Gus is heart. Let's go to the... Yeah, you can get like into Montana and get just ridiculous winters. If you stay on the coast, you usually do okay. You can only get so cold. Yeah, but you can get some broodable stuff like in the middle of the country, like going up. So would you rather live in a cold place or a hot place? Hot place? Yeah, I would too. I would too.
Starting point is 01:21:14 It's, I think it's easier to dress down than it is to dress up. I think like, I think like in North Dakota, like you were asking, like the coldest it gets, I think you can see like negative 20 degrees. Everyone is so temperature conscious or the time here in America. Yeah, it's so fussly about like the temperature of a room What's the temperature of this room right now? No 70s two degrees 72, but if it was 73 be like let's turn it down By one degree. I don't think how can you feel one degree Fahrenheit change? You say you can because we're not stupid here. We go See this is why I think you're on Celsius or you're on metric to because you guys follow the Celsius
Starting point is 01:21:47 For temperature which Celsius makes no sense. Yeah, it makes no sense freezing is zero and boiling is 100 that makes no sense I need you question. Oh, what can I do question? So you you agree that you have a scale from zero to 100 that that's a That's something that the human mind can grasp like sets of tens right yeah because it's like what the freezing point I'm boiling point of what our world is based on water What okay, let me tell you what falls in the temperature range between 32 degrees Ferran or Celsius and a hundred degrees Celsius what what's another temperature you use somewhere in there anything at all Anything Anything at all washing clothes. Anything at all.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Washington close. What is 72 degrees Celsius? What is that? Like what? What is that temperature? Washington machine. Okay. Okay. Our Fahrenheit scale is based on the survivable living temperatures of a human being of comfort. Like you go below zero degrees Fahrenheit, you're getting into you could freeze to death. you go into above 100 degrees Fahrenheit,
Starting point is 01:22:47 you're in the range at which a human being could possibly be in distress and die from heat. That's what Fahrenheit is based on. It makes so much more sense than Celsius. It's absolutely nice. Oh, you just got science dropped all over your face. What's the boiling point of Fahrenheit? 212 degrees.
Starting point is 01:23:02 212 degrees. But I'm not going to you how many people know that. Apparently, three people in this room, though. Well, everybody knows. You didn't say anything, Jeff. Everybody who's on Fahrenheit. Everybody's on Fahrenheit. But you know the range at which a human being can live.
Starting point is 01:23:14 We know room temperature. And it also offers a varying degree. I also know the fact that I'll probably survive between 0 and 40 degrees. Right. And then- So why do you have 41 to fucking 100, dude? Exactly. You don't need that. survive between zero and 40 degrees. Right. And then- So why do you gotta have 41 to fucking 100? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:23:28 You don't need that. What do you need that level of precision for those temperatures? You're never gonna get that in your life. No, what I'm saying is you don't need that many numbers between life and death. Absolutely, you do. You need as many numbers as you can get
Starting point is 01:23:36 between life and death in my life. Zero and 40 is fine. I mean, 30 and 31, like. Well, you could also, you could also make the argument that you don't need zero to 100 for degrees of percentages and for failure as well Like if you have a grade and you have like an 85% on a grade. What's the difference between that and the 87%? Damn dude, you just got fucking wrecked Zero to 100 should be reserved for the most commonly used temperature. The way I see the English standards is we pick the best.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Like we'll use miles because the kilometers are kind of gay. Well, that's all you use. Mom, for gallim. But then. Wait, my culture doesn't exist. I think you just fucked yourself up. You did. Why are miles better than kilometers?
Starting point is 01:24:18 You just fucked yourself there. Well, take it easy. No, he's got a great point of mind. Miles are not better than kilometers. You know what? Because you, it's what you just fucking talked about. You asshole. Kilometers are a fucking standard.
Starting point is 01:24:29 You know, from here to a thousand meters, that's a fucking kilometer. How many feet are in a mile? I was able to answer your fucking question. How many feet are in a mile? Five thousand two hundred feet. Oh, what? You should have said it in the argument. You made the argument. You just fucked yourself because you just contradicted what you were fucking saying take the mic off Damn, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, get carried off that stand. God, Gavina, you're such an idiot. You can't make an argument. Can I tell you guys something to you?
Starting point is 01:25:07 I mean, metric, it's great that they have a base 10 for that. But their base is, it's all based on ridiculous garbage anyway. Like a meter is based on how far light travels in like 0.00, the 10th power 98. How do you have a percent of a second, you know what I mean? Yeah, well there has to be like a standard definition I have the evidence of the definition of a second and what a second is and why the second is a second long Why is that honest? It's to do with like it's just weird. You should read it
Starting point is 01:25:37 I mean I just point this bring it up now because I don't know and you don't know what it is But right look it up wait a really complicated way to bring up something, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You know what I mean? Swat's tried to introduce metric or base 10 time. Like everyone uses hours, there's no such thing as metric time. That should be that, do you not think it's weird that it's like 59, 59, and then it goes to one, you know? Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, I think it would be good,
Starting point is 01:26:01 but it'd be hard to switch. It would be. We made a big bush for metric here in the 70s Then it died it died fast. Mm-hmm really fast. I'm a big metric fan You like so do you use in inches and or centimeters? No, I use inches I use because it's a fucking standard here. I mean I use what we have as a star But I think metrics better how many things in an inch there's 2.4 centimeters in an inch the helmet things in an inch? There's 2.4 centimeters in an inch. But how what's an inch? 112th of a foot. I don't know what are you asking. I don't understand. I'm saying is there a smaller unit than an inch?
Starting point is 01:26:30 Uh, yes. I mean, you start breaking the inch down. Half an inch, quarter inch. 5, 8th of an inch. 11, 16th of an inch. Is there something smaller than a millimeter? Yeah. Yeah. Trillimeter. Technically there are like nanometers. Nanometers pick up. Use for processor. Yachter. What? Gus you'll know this stupid question. I'm not gonna know this anyway. There's a thousand terabytes in a petabyte, right? Right. Right. So what's a thousand petabytes? It's an rel of a bite. I think it's a I think it's a Yada bite, isn't it? I think Yeah, I think I think it is. I think there's a yacht to bite
Starting point is 01:27:09 Oh, is it yada but I think there's stuff in between that. There's like XO by it somebody made that it might be an X A bite. Good Lord. We'll look it up We'll put it in the link, but do you think that we'll get to because obviously storage is becoming an issue with computers and we're We're like the standard now is to buy like a issue with computers and we're like the standard now is to buy like a a terabyte drive where there's before it'd be like 250 gig or whatever. But do you think it'll get to the point where we're using petabytes and exabytes or they just come up with a new thing to store data? Like they'll come up with new media yeah but the measure will be the same.
Starting point is 01:27:37 But can't you have something? You'd have to have a fundamental shift away from like digital computing to untie yourself from that bite structure So is that like could you store something holographically? Yeah, there's already holographic storage, but But it's bites still yeah, so there's like gigabyte holographic storage. They're much bigger than that But yeah, yeah, it's just weird. It won't be it won't be it won't ever be that big a shift Simply because it's always relative like when we started working with computers, Gus and I would talk about kilobytes and megahertz.
Starting point is 01:28:09 And it didn't seem like that big a shift to move from kilobytes to megabytes to gigabytes, to now terabytes. But if you were talking to me, talking in the kilobite world and talking about terabytes, I'd be like, what the hell is a terabyte? They were never stood. Yeah, we're always going up by a factor of 10.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Like there's a time where, as the next one up approaches, people get used to it and then you buy that. You can put it in context. This new thing is a hundred or a thousand of my old things. Yeah. I'd be interested to know which, what company has the most storage in the world? It's gotta be Google, right?
Starting point is 01:28:44 I don't know about that. Topperware. Or is it like the pen- The pentagon? You'd be surprised, like, Topperware. Where we, um, where, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, funny funny to me man, I was funny to my head. I thought I
Starting point is 01:29:06 Had him said I was like That's fucking stupid And then I five seconds later is for some reason the funniest thing ever I'm leaving all right All right, we're done peace out. Bye. That was an abrupt and see you next Alright, we're done. Peace out. Bye. That was an abrupt end.
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