Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #32

Episode Date: October 21, 2009

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Twisted metal, now only on peacock Hey everyone welcome to the recipe podcast I'm Jeff Ramsay Everyone I'm Olivia Bond. It's the Huff-Diamond. This is Bobcat. Hey everyone, I'm Gassarola. 4010K duality pod-pad. It's over. Hey everyone, welcome to the podcast. Woohoo! I'm not trying to what I just said, it's actually not over.

Now can I ask us, did you check and make sure that's not a stolen or a lying case song? I bet it's not a rely, I'm the Boros biggest reliant K-fan now. So when you find out that the previous podcast theme song was Stolen does that the right word to use fucking yelling when it was infringed? Did we do anything to change that? No? Like I like the way it happened was I had already cut everything together I had already made my newspost and I was about to hit submit to submit the podcast and I thought I should look I should Google I just wasted 10 seconds at your time and see what comes up and I saw and everything was already done

I just had to hit submit and I was like God fucking if I hadn't Google that then you know I never would have known what a jackass What a jack oh no I would have known immediately when comment number five was like I know this song You know what I've tried to do in the past which I found to be very frustrating You know what I've tried to do in the past, which I found to be very frustrating? Shower license me. I'm a good shower. I want to point that out. I'm part of the best shower of the self. I don't know if that's true. I have a trophy on my desk and everything. I sometimes shower twice a day. You beat Matt. I'll give you that. That's about it. Totally different. I have tried to license music for productions before. That's a very difficult thing to do.

And I don't necessarily know that I understand that it can be done. Or how to do it. It definitely seems like it's different for whoever is providing the music as well. You know, you know, it's interesting on the flip side of that because we've had this conversation before back in the days when I lived in Jersey and I was doing PA work for the viewsqueue guys, they would just like get like boxes of CDs from record labels, mailed to them that were like, please check this out, use any of our stuff, just give us call. Yeah, we think you'll really like this music. You know, I always hear a TV show too,

that if they play a portion of a song, oh, then they have to pay royalties on it. Can we do that? Can we just start playing stuff? And that's an interesting idea. Well, no, I thought it was like if you do it for like less than 20 seconds, then it's free, but it's clean it up, it's rules, right? And like, let's say they go than 20 seconds than it's free but it's clear that there's rules right and like let's say they go let's say they go over 20 seconds let's just take that that scenario are they build do they have a department that handles that who do you pay I'm becoming like a fan of the rules of reality you know it's like well what you can get away with is that's you know we're on the internet right doesn't matter well it seems like radio gets away with everything right they can

they can play whatever they want like like like like not obviously not like radio I'm trying to like talk shows and on the radio. I think it's eight seconds is what I read if I'm not mistaken But so does that mean like a guy like girl talk Gus as long as he doesn't have more than an eight-second clip is totally legal to sell his stuff Because then he's selling it. Oh, yes Broadcasting you're selling it really you're selling it to advertisers I have thought before that when I've looked at some of these rights Spreadsheets were like these are the rights that we have to clear. I've thought you know It might just be easier just to put this stuff in there and then just pay the fine when it comes up

It might actually be an easier process to do that. I just want to see the girl talk guy use video instead of audio I just want to see like take a bunch of TV shows, just create new TV. Fans have done that on YouTube. If you look at many of his songs on YouTube, they have like where they use the actual video for that portion of the song. Is it any good? Not as cool as you'd think. Ah! It's not so very good. Not as good as the song. Let me see if I understand what you're saying. You're saying people are putting stuff they don't own the copyright on YouTube? They are. But they're just not as clever as music. Blue my mind. They're not, they're not, they don't edit as well as the others. And. But it's just not as clever as his music. Blue my mind. They're not, they're not, they don't edit as well as he does.

And we're living in Naze right now where it's like completely culturally acceptable to steal stuff. You know, even saying the word steal is, I have to react to that in some way because there's a lot of people who don't consider it stealing. The other day I was driving, I think I told Bernie the story. The other day I was, I was driving into the office and I was listening to the radio and there was like

some morning talk show and The DJ was like yeah, I was gonna buy that song and iTunes and you know use it here on the show But you know those guys over there the so-and-so guys got mad I mean they told me not to buy stuff on iTunes for us to use anymore that we I should just go to YouTube and get it like that for free What yeah, and I was like god this guy's on the fucking radio It's like a morning show morning zoo kind of thing. Yeah, it was like one of the one of the things I was like, God, this guy's on the fucking radio. I was like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

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Go go how can this guy take your link and all that's like do you guys not see the You know here it's just a link that you made you didn't make the article You're just linked to it and you this guy stole your link and yet you're all discussing that I really am. It's just a link that you made. You didn't even make the article. You just linked to it and you just stole your link and yet you're all discussing that. That's like back in the day when that kid posted how we met Luke kind of that kid posted all of Luke's images drawn images in his profile and you went to him and he's really cool. These are great. And he's like, thanks.

Strongest along, never told us that he didn't make it. And finally you were like, did you actually draw these and he goes, oh no, I found them. But if you use them all, I'm not quite afraid of it. Yeah, I found them in another user's image profile. Yeah, I was trying to, he, Luke had drawn, this is before we knew Luke had drawn images of the characters and they were really cool because he drew Griffith's fat and you saw it this short.

He took information from the lines and did these really cool character designs of the RVB characters. And I saw them all over the site because people kept rehosing them and I finally found one kid like you said that had all of them. And I said, hey, these are really great. Can we put these on the front page? It goes, yes, he goes, but I want to make sure that I get the proper credit for it. Here's my name and here's where I'm going to be credit.

And I, on a hunch, I said, well, did you, you made these, right? He goes, no, I didn't make them, but I just regret it for finding them. I'm existing. I'll get right on. He wants to find your thing. I'll get right on it What a fucking jackass, but then I met Luke I finally you know I met Luke and now we work with Luke So it was pretty cool is a good thing we don't work with that other guy If you stop contracting all those workout to Luke on the side He just be going to Luke's image gallery

Sorry guys can't work today that guy can't as I put out anything new yet So it's good to have you back, Bernie. You missed last week. I did miss last week and I mean that since earlier I missed you guys. Did you? I really did miss you guys. We had a good time making Jack never want to be on the podcast again. So who are the questions who are you going to get angry at this week guys? Because you've been getting too angry. No, no, no, well people have been making me angry.

No, no, no, no, no, wait, we got a good crew. We got a good crew this week. You get angry people don't make you No, no, no, I don't get angry anger is thrust upon me in other words Gus knows he can't out punch anybody in the room You think you can take jack in a fight No, I wouldn't go on that road. No, no, no, no, I don't think so. He's a big guy. I don't think I could take anyone in a fight. Oh, you could fight the British kids. Yeah, you could. Oh, yeah, that's right.

I mean, that doesn't count. Yeah. That looks like it goes without side. That's not even a human. If you can get Paschavino's hair, that's really the main thing. They're like shaved rats, definitely. But, yeah, no, there's no way I would ever try, even think about trying to fight Jack. I was in Seattle for a week working on a commercial that should be out very soon.

And I had a great time. I very rarely work on the commercials. And this was one that I wanted to work on. And it was an absolute blast. Well, I think you did an excellent job. Well, thank you. And thank you. And when it's on TV, maybe we can talk about it a little bit more.

That sounds awesome. Of course. And I also want to give a nice shout out. We went out to dinner in Seattle and a fan bought us dinner. Unbeknownst to us just recognized us and paid for our dinner, me and Matt and one of the guys we were working with. And that was very, very, very cool. And I want to say thank you to whomever did that.

Did you ever find out who it was? No, we did. We actually met at Matt for it. But I'm not allowed to talk about it. But I still want to say thank you to the guy for doing it I And well, I mean I guess I could say his name doesn't doesn't matter. Does it yeah, you already said what city it was in everything Right, he's not the secret No, no, no, no, I just want to say thank you to the person. All right. Well, you're thanks. There's a knowledge that kind of stuff happens more over there

Than it does here. Okay, it was Obama. I didn't want I wouldn't want to get embarrassed But he saw us there and he's a huge caboose fan, actually. So they're not, yeah. Well, it's blue figures. Blue, yeah. No, it's just, there were guys who were working there, actually.

And they were very cool. That's very cool. So one thing I like is free food. When basically everybody at this particular, they all have a PhD, right? What? At the restaurant? At the McDonald's?

High class fucking... I thought for a second we could talk about the developer, but we probably can't talk about that either, can't we? Oh, you mean the place where we went? No, yeah. That was a fun environment to be into, you know, this game development companies are fun to walk into because they're people from... And such diverse backgrounds. And the best thing about them is they have a place in all of the... I've never eaten as poorly as I have when working on do commercials In Santa Monica as is back when we were doing some of the EA stuff like the madden stuff and they would have a girl

Who would bring a tray around up with gummy bears on it and like peanuts and she'd be like liquorish? Would you like a twizzler? It's like every 20 minutes. She sounds like the most beautiful person The show's very beautiful, but they're like all those game development companies all have you know multiple kitchens to stocked with all the junk food and Crap you want to eat and so does well it's not all junk food because there is a company that I think survives just on those contracts I've never seen a talking rain drink anywhere else, but in a video game or a commercial studio like any kind of like Professional production we've been to they'll have this talking rain sparkling water never seen it anywhere else have you guys You know what I'm talking about that right? Oh, no, I don't think I know that oh, you know I'll say the can you will recognize the can for sure. Okay. I'm probably not you remember you're right

Gusson I had a similar experience when we were at PAX we went out to lunch with our friend Laurie and we're gonna have to liquid lunch liquid lunch Yeah a little glug glug yum yum and we're gonna have to liquid lunch. Liquid lunch, yeah, a little glug glug yummy on. And we were sitting at this bar eating and some guy walked by, looked at us, did a double take, walked as fast as he could do the other side of the room and Gus and I weren't paying attention. And then Laurie goes, I think that guy

is taking pictures of him from behind the tree. And we looked and there was like a plant, a planner, and he'd walked behind the planner and like part of it Like a nerdy paparazzi and had his tiny little camera phone and was taking pictures of us through the leaves of the bush We waved him over like you want to take a picture with us? You know it's a real bizarre It's very strange, really weird. Okay, Jeff. I'm gonna show you a picture of you. Okay. I want to see it What see if you recognize that.

Yeah, I recognize the talking realm. I don't know that I've ever seen on those trips. I'm just gonna say yes because I don't want to start a fight. Oh, yeah, the talking realm. You were a world friend. That everybody's got them. I noticed that you guys would avoid the water part of the refrigerator when you go in there.

You look for beer, then if you don't see beer, it's straight to like double jolt, coal, or something like that. They always have beer. They usually do. The commercial places have beer. The, like that. They always have beer. They usually do. The commercial places have beer. The studio's have beer and the development place

is usually don't have beer. So what I find. They wheel it out in the afternoons. They do. Five o'clock is wine and cheese hour. No, that's the production place. Yeah. Has everyone in this room seen zombie land?

No, I have. Gus, you have it? No. Only if you and Bernie have have I heard you didn't like it And I expected you not to like it, but I have a question for you Yes, because in the in the tenure of our Relationship, I don't know that I've ever seen you like a movie. No, it's rare Don't you remember the last movie you liked was it like Sophie's choice or red or Joel? I think Joel was gonna just terms of in dear terms of endearment I would say that Joel tends to like

movies less the more that other people like them you think so as the prom popularity than Joel's like this is on except not at all I don't know that I've gotten that impression. I'm really ridiculous. I'm really what's a movie you like. You ever complimented an actor in front of you. Oh yeah. It's a funny process but like I've seen a few quite a few movies with Joel and like the first thing that happens when we walk out of the theater is Joel goes, what was that? What did I see?

What? What was it? What was it? Do you remember the last movie you liked? The Esono Theater? No, I know. I know it must be something. Was it a chaplain film?

So is this your way of saying you didn't like zombie land? No, I didn't. I was Under impressed by yeah, do you agree with my criticism that there are no zombies in zombie land? The middle part of the movie like there's the first part of the movie. There's the end part of the movie the first part being the credits Yeah, I guess in the middle chunk where it's like is this what happened to the zombie movie right? You know the new zombie movie. It's like just a formulaic whatever word I don't want I don't want to ruin stuff for people so it's a formulaic whatever with stuff god it's got a beginning middle and end part there are

it's like I guess you can cut all this out I guess you can cut all this out it's been out from one I was like you that you came out you came out of the great idea where it's like if you have a zombie movie what how awesome would it be if you were to get like a big name actor Right, I guess actors just be as ambie. I was very like very obsessed or Tom Hanks. I was like Is it just a zombie just a faceless zombie? That would be hysterical, right? How cool would it be to find us to liberty zombie because there would be Celebrities on that and then they start indicating that in the movie And it's like someone indicated that to me and I I thought, oh, well, at least that should be interesting.

This, you know, I mean, it's disappointing. They already have the idea. But whatever. And it wasn't even that. It wasn't even that. It's fucking a guy. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a volume level. He's clear to set.

It's not even that. It's like an actor who's pretending to be a zombie. A celebrity who survives. And he's pretending to be a zombie. Yeah, I know the bit. And it's not funny. Everybody was funny and the bits with him were kind of funny in there. No.

No, didn't like it. Didn't like it. Yeah, we wrote that zombie thing where we're going to try to get a celebrity to play a zombie. But actually, a zombie, a celebrity zombie, the guy is trying to take pictures with it and stuff like that. So, you know, we're just kind of like, it's a reminder of the way the world used to be. And things we found important and they, you know, they clearly wouldn't find that important yet. They still do because our guys that was the point of the thing that I want to do And then of course like every idea now if you think of it you better make it as fast as you possibly can Somebody else will make it how hard would it be to like events like a you know a list major actor to like just be as army

It would be possible right it would be hard apparently this thing with it's Bill Murray. Okay. He's in zombie land I think everyone who's gonna see zombie land has seen him by now probably yeah And and Bill Murray and I from what I understand They got him at the very last minute and they didn't know it was gonna be him and they wrote everything for him And they shot all of his stuff in I think today that is that's the one thing someone pointed out to me I guess Jack pointed out to me that they made the movie for I think two days that is that's the one thing someone pointed out to me I guess jack pointed out to me that they made the movie for twelve million dollars I mean I give them credit it seems like the movie was made for a lot more than twelve million dollars

I don't really that's the official number I think that's what people are saying I think you know books. I think it's twenty three million It's still it looked you know someone would have told me it was a fifty maybe not fifty million But in that neighbor I would have bought it. I would have believed it. They did some stuff like the thing that did Well, I don't think they did the zombie well, but they did the land well, the land part of it. They just cleared everything out. It was like, there was no one around. There's a scene with, was his name Jesse Eisenberg?

Is that his name? Is that the name of the kid? Who answers that eternal question? Hey, what do we do if we can't get Michael Sarah? Yeah, we can't afford Michael Sarah. What do we do? The answer is Jesse Eisenberg. They had a scene with him in

Woody Harrelson where they meet and they're on a freeway where everything's wrecked. Like there's a bus and I think there's even a jetliner on the freeway. Yeah, yeah. And they did a great job of having a cleared out highway, which is why they did. Didn't they film like in Kentucky or something? I don't imagine it would be that hard. I believe they filmed in Georgia. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're right. It was Georgia. Hey, that reminds me. I just saw this this morning. I was going to tell you the Austin Film Festival is going to show a premier youth in revolt. I know you were right. It was Georgia. Hey, that reminds me. I just saw this this morning I was gonna tell you the Austin Film Festival is gonna show a premier youth in revolt I know you were interested in seeing that movie that looks awesome. Yeah, it's a good book

Not like it's really awesome. I went to saw where the wild things are and I will try to keep this boy Lafrey because I know a lot of people having to get you to like it. I didn't like it. I Man, I didn't like it surprise of the century. Why why would they do I not like movies? Generally don't but then as time goes on you like a more. Well that's that's that is true. It seems like as time goes on you grow movies grow on you. That is true. And like I guess maybe as you mull them over you you like a more. Or I can come out of a movie and like it and it would be amped up and like that was a cool movie like Transformers or Clone Wars. And then over time go what was the point of that movie? You did that you did that once in a spectacular way,

where we went and left work to go see episode two together. Clone Warship. Me, you, and Ajax. And you walked out of the movie and went, that was awesome. And by the time we got back to the office, which was four miles away, you were like, that movie sucked.

Yeah. It was really bizarre how quickly it happened. My opinion of movies is very dynamic. Sure. I think everybody's is. And I think so much like expectation going into it is so like important. And if all of your friends, like,

it's the greatest movie in the world, you go in there, it's OK. Then the movie sucks. Everyone's like, oh, this movie sucks. It's OK. It's great. Yeah, the expectation definitely plays a huge part in it.

I think. Well, I took my kid to see Wild Things. And it's all emo and depressing. Did your kid like it? Yeah. I mean, I was still in it. I think. Well, I took my kid to see Wild Things, and it's all emo and depressing. Did your kid like it? Yeah, I mean, he, you know, I was still a mat. When I went and saw Star Wars as a kid, I didn't know until I was 13 or 14 that R2D2 had the plans for the Death Star.

I just thought that I just thought the bad guys were chasing the good guys. I missed that plot element entirely. So you didn't like that it was like a melancholy movie? No, because it looked totally melancholy in the trailers. It's hard to explain but the main wild thing, the one voiced by James Gandalfini, is like a drunken stepfather. He's like a passive. He's like a psychotic person, manic depressive, and it's just hard to put up with. At the end of it, you don't

understand what the point of it was. He's just, all these people are like, don't make me mad, try to appease him. And at first you think it's friendly and then he's odd and everything's just super odd in that movie and it's hard to explain but I don't know I just at the end of it it's just nonsensical. How long was it? I like two hours. Oh wow that seems pretty long. From a technical level it was awesome. There's not a moment that those things are on screen that you don't believe they're real. Not not a moment That's cool. Yeah, I mean they are they are really really well done In fact, I don't know what the combination of CG and puppetry was but whatever it was was perfect and yet and like here We have avatar coming up, you know, it's like how do we go backwards? I don't know

I don't want to speak too ill of avatars. We haven't actually haven't seen it yet But I mean based on the trailer I agree with you I mean like are the visual effects gonna change in the movie versus the trailer? Sure absolutely. I mean before absolutely. Or maybe. Or maybe Spider-Man. Yeah, Spider-Man. Spider-Man had a totally different to look totally different in the movie than the trailer. The trailer was embarrassing and we were all laughing about how that was and I thought they watched it. They watched it. The trailer out and it wasn't done. Also you know seeing the trailer is also kind of out of context if that makes sense.

I may make more sense, you know, once you're actually watching them. I guess, but my main play was just looking at the characters. Yeah, I agree. I'm just trying to play the other side here. The other thing I read is that from the people that saw the 15 minutes of it is that the movie was designed for the IMAX and you have to see it in that experience to actually see all the detail and for it to look Correct I don't believe I don't believe this agrees with that but I know that's what that's what they're saying man We need to make a soundboard

We have some fucking hotkey sounds here Yeah, what time will tell yeah that's crazy thatp, burp, burp, burp, burp. What time will tell? Yeah, that's crazy. That sounds like a hairy nose with all due respect, hairy nose, aint cool news review that you have to be in the right time frame and they're like state of mind to appreciate the movie. Your glucose level has to be it exactly.

I guess, I don't know. Oh, well, on a brighter note, I finished Uncharted 2 this week. Well, I have just one thing to say, one more thing about James Cameron before we get to that. Great game, by the way. But the reason why I'm not going to bash Avatar is because I very clearly remember before Titanic came out how this was going to sink James Cameron. Yeah. It was going to be his Titanic and that it was never, no one was going to see this movie. He built this enormous set and it was going to be garbage and it was a great movie that it was never no one was gonna see this movie he built this enormous set and it was gonna be garbage And it was a great movie and it was the most successful movie

Well, how could you build half a freaking boat in Mexico and like have it be have the capability of sinking Repeatedly and have that look bad. Well, I mean here's here's the deal He yeah, he made he made all that stuff and it sounds great But then the thing people don't understand was he made it like a 90% scale Yeah, and that's what we've had people scratching their head like why the fuck would you go through all that trouble and then not make it a hundred percent scale? And he talked about that and it made sense what he talked about it because that extra 10% was a lot more money and 90% was clearly good enough It seems like you're getting that 10% on the lens anyway, right? Sure, yeah, but that you know you write James Cameron does not make bad movies so far so far

Right, so stick with it. Yeah, stick with it. Yeah, I have a little face. I mean that have some faith the dude has never steered us wrong Yeah, I think I think other people are probably building it up more for him than he's doing in himself I mean, I haven't seen any advertising for Avatar review comic-con comic-con that was it and it's coming out in like a month and a half Mm-hmm most movies that are that close, we're getting bombarded. Mm-hmm, yep so. I will go see it and I keep my expectations low, so maybe I'll be set up for a nice walk out of the movie

and love it and get home and I hate it. I'm kind of ensuring it. Maybe you'll boomerang back around the liking it by the time you get home. You look kind of far from the theater. Maybe so. But like I was saying, I finished Uncharted 2 this week. And I think it's the first time I'm talking about a PlayStation 3 game on the podcast. Oh, it was really good.

I think we have to give a shout out to Jeff and Gus for the great Achievement Hunter Saul video. I think what was so good about that is I think you could literally take that audio and just go ahead and apply it to a different game. Like you can put that on the uncharted thing, it's gonna work fine. I have not seen this all video but I've heard clips of it, it sounds very funny. It was a featured video on YouTube. It's still a featured video on YouTube right now. Nothing to do with that game.

Fantastic, fantastic video though. I do want to play song now, though. Can I say that I've been thoroughly enjoying your Achieve videos, Gus, and I'm happy to have them. Thanks, thanks. It's been a lot of fun doing these uncharted ones. What's next on your plate? I don't know, actually. I tried to buy borderlands for you this morning. Yeah, I'll try borderlands. I think someone's already working on that, though.

Somebody see what else is out there. Can I, can I bitch for a second about that borderlands? No, we're not the game itself, but I went to a video game store this morning. I want to name any names. No, name names. It was game crazy. And I walked in and there are no less than 30 copies of borderlands. Yeah. On the counter behind them. And I go, hey, I'd like to pick up a copy of borderlands. He goes, well, platform. And I go, uh, 360. He goes, yeah, I can't sell to you. And I go, why? There's like a, there's like a fucking mountain of the games behind you and I know borderlands is not that big of a hit, you know and He goes

Yeah, pre-orders and I go so those are all pre-ordered I find it hard to believe and he's like cancel for three days. I was like wow. Okay. Do you realize it's a pre-order business that big? I don't think so. I'm here. Here's here's here's the rub and here's rub business I know this guy makes like eight dollars hour, doesn't give a fuck. And it's just his job. I'm not going to get mad at him. But I'm like, you do realize that I'm just going to go get my car and drive literally across the interstate

to Best Buy and Buy it. I'm certainly not going to wait to play the game for three days and then come back to see if you have copies of your lead to sell. Right. I'm just going to go somewhere else. Yeah, I've really soured on the whole buying games at game stores because of that.

And like you said, there's that Best Buy.'s close to both of our houses and I walk in there and I'm like, do you have this game? They're like, yeah, it's not out yet. It's in the back. When you go grab it for you. I have they have never not had a game right. Looked for it. Also targets. Same thing. Yeah. You know, the game companies have got to be easier on them about that because the most expensive part of making game is not manufacturing the disks in the case. That is not the expensive part. So they've got to make it easier on stores to return product and that'd be okay.

You know, and I guess they just make it hard so these game stops and game craze. You have to go through this crazy free inventory crap. It's like the time that you tried to buy a Wii and they had Wii's at the store and they said we literally can't sell them till Sunday Okay, the Wii had been out for a month at that time. Oh right, but for some reason they said yeah They don't they don't corporate doesn't want us to put them on the shelves. Yeah, they probably had an ad or a circular That was in a

We can sail that's right. I forgot about that. It's so frustrating and I now I don't want to go back to the store And I'd forgotten it and done that to me and I encounter that more game stores than anywhere else and it's just every every time I've encountered that problem. I just feel like so burned exactly what you're saying It's like I just don't ever want to come back to this place. It is super convenient for me to go to that game crazy and and now I just don't want to go there because it's I just know I got a fight with the person by the game. I don't like going there because every time those two times I've ever bought a game at that game, same game crazy. Like I have to fight them to not get like the disc refinishing service or whatever bullshit they sell warranty for the And then I just I read that they're closing 160 stores across the US.

And it's like, yeah, and it's like, well, I want to hear you. Yeah, you won't sell it to your customers. You're paralyzed. You're in for the $5 pre-order fee right exactly. It's like they're trying so hard to battle the Oncoming threat. It's like they have all these weird, you know the pre-order and the set and the other thing you're talking about digital delivery Yeah, and you know you know the seat your Listen to this the seat mentally impaired if you think it's a long day. The CEO of Netflix came out last week and said that the DVD is going to be dead in two years. In two years, that's pretty fast. I don't know, I don't know if it's true, but this is obviously somebody who...

I saw an ad actually on TV last night for Netflix where they're, you know, normally these to have ads that promoted like $15 a month, you know, all the DVDs you can watch, three DVDs at a time, or whatever, right, these to have that commercial. The commercial I saw last night was $9 Netflix, $9 a month, stream any movie you or stream all the videos you want. Like, they're no longer pushing the DVD through mail option. Do you guys get the feeling that that Netflix streaming thing is temporary? Let any year from now we won't have that anymore.

No, no. I don't know why I feel the best the case. I wonder if it's just because they're having to deal with the Like nobody like nobody's caught up yet like hey, they're streaming all these things They're not even doing buying the DVDs anymore. They're just streaming copies of the movie. Well, they get paid if they get I mean They get paid licensing for do you know things I'm pretty sure I Get paid per play. I did they get paid like a yearly fee of being in the service. That would that wouldn't make sense to me Well, I think behind interesting that stuff goes on and off that service up on that very interesting Did they get paid like a yearly fee? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

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But you know some, like, it kind of ties into everything that's going on in this country right now where we take simple things like finance and we make them unneedlessly complex. Like a credit card agreement statement. Look, exactly. Like, like a simple loan or something I mean of that nature. You know when you have a retail store you have a product

You sell the product that just makes sense on a fundamental level You can explain it to a child and it makes sense if you explain why the item is sitting behind the counter And they can't sell it until a certain date or until certain people who have a five-dollar contract on that item and their option expires Then we can buy it. It just doesn't make sense. Yeah. You remember the time that Jeff and I, the first time we put out DVDs for Red vs Blue, and we're about to come out with a DVD for the shorts and a DVD for recreation. We're working those right now.

But season one and season two, we shipped out of my living room and your living room. Yeah. And we had to buy, do you remember what the stamps were that we had to go out and buy? I remember the foxes were the one dog. The foxes and the edna furbers. Edna furbers were the big one. They were 83 cent stamps and then 22 cent stamps. Yeah.

And those were the Jefferson, the green Jefferson ones. Oh, they were Washington. Oh, they're Washington. I can't tell they were seeing those guys when they were profile. I really can't. I really can't. So I had to go, we would go buy these 83 cent stamps,

which were pretty rare to find. So we I had to go, we would go buy these 83 cent stamps, which were pretty rare to find. So, we'd go to post office and say, we will buy all of your 83 cent stamps. And it was amazing the reaction that we got to, I want to buy your stamps. Yeah. They would say, how many do you need? And I say, I just need all of them. I'll buy every 83 cent stamp you have. And they say, well, you can't just say all of of them I need to know how many you need I say okay

I need a thousand and they'd say I only have 30 it's like I'll buy 30 then I will buy every 83 cents stamp You have so like I would give me one sheet he goes I can only sell you one sheet and there'd be two other sheets They're sitting there I said no I want to buy all of them I'll buy those two sheets as well and say I can't do that Because if I sell you all my 83 cents stamps and then someone comes in later and says I need to 83 cent stamps I won't be able to sell it to him. I go I'm that guy. I'm standing right here. You're telling me you can't sell it to me You're guaranteed you're gonna tell that to somebody and that person is me and you're gonna tell me you can't sell it to me That some imaginary person might come in you might have this conversation as unbelievable in the back of his mind He knows there's like some sort of FEMA situation that's gonna. We're arise between the mo and they're somehow an eighty three cent stamp Is it gonna come into play that's gonna be that's how they seal the coffins, you know that's right

83 cents and you know a stamp is the best thing to a stamp is like a pre-order coupon the the Post office doesn't make their money from shipping packages. They make their money from selling stamps So I've used by a sheet of stamps and lose it they make the same they make more money Because they don't the service thing a fucking gift card. That's why they fucking encourage stamp collecting I bet they started that You know what they did of course they started of course they do stamp collecting I'm not I'm still not sure like why a government agency is like ever like you see like the the tour de France Whatever it's not throwing. He's like why it's pseudo government. It's not really. It's weird. It's complicated.

Yeah. I don't think government agencies can sponsor a tour de France team. I still don't know how they do that. Well, that's what I'm saying. Right. If you're a government, don't sponsor stuff. Yeah. I mean, if this is your tax dollars, I don't want to, I don't know. Well, the issue of bugs, bunny stamp stamp that seems kind of strange, you know Yeah, I can't we can get a red versus blue stamp, right? We should get on that We should get caboose on the negative one-cent stamp didn't they have a print up print your own stamp at one point? Didn't they have that? Oh, I think they do I think you can buy like that shit at office depot or something right like it's like the stamps.com

You know whatever like little barcode goes on it and you can print whatever picture you want can you really I thought you could just put in a denomination I don't really could put you know I think there's something you can print your own picture too you could print like a dick on a stamp I guess you could like a boner stamp that sounds awesome I love that that was the first thing you went to what it is sloppy pussy would to be a self adhesive stamp. I hope so. But it wasn't her thing with the word they had.

Maybe they were going to vote on a new stamp and like Charles Manson one or they were trying to people were trying to print Charles Manson stamps. Is that right? I can't remember that. I'm probably a Mr. Rory. I do not remember that. This is like 10 years ago when companies were just figuring out the dynamic IT environment

and the public was way ahead of them. And everything, everything became a prank on some big corporation. Like Michael, or Michael, Vic Bulldog jerseys. Have you seen those? Yeah. Yeah. Well, they can print an NFL jersey for your dog. That was, yeah, they had that in the New York Times like a month ago or something. They had a big ad and it was like they had a dog wearing a jersey and it was Vic. or something, they had a big ad and it was like they had a dog wearing a jersey and it was Vic. I was like, have you guys any of your research at all? Or when you could get the Michael Vic jersey that said Sanchez?

Oh, let's have Ron Mexico. You might have to qualify that. There was a, have we talked about this? Oh, whatever. There was, I guess Ron Mexico was the pseudonym he used when he went to the clinic to get treated for herpes. Well, that was allegedly alleged. That's a big time.

I think it came up in court where somebody sued him. And so for a while, you could buy them from NFL.com and you get Michael, you get number seven Atlanta Falcons jerseys with Mexico on the back. But then they stopped allowing you to do that. Yeah, that sucks. I know, I get another huge scandal that just kind of went away. Yeah.

The Ron Mexico Michael Vick thing. It got eclipsed by a slightly bigger one. I can't seem to remember it right now. But yeah, I think Michael Vick did something else. Chew on it for a while. You remember. I'll sniff it out eventually. Okay, okay, okay.

Don't just don't bark up the wrong tree. Whoa. And cut. Do you have you guys been paying attention all to the whole J Leno in prime time? Okay, don't just don't bark up the wrong tree. And cut. Do you have you guys been paying attention all to the whole J Leno in prime time? No, is that still on? He has essentially driven the NBC prime time line up into the dump. Now, the big deal is now I hear that local news stations are not getting any ratings on NBC. And they're losing all of the revenue from commercials.

They would normally be on their late night news and that it's just it's dismal it's dismal why do you think that is because he was so successful is it just the time slot is the time slot the star I think it's people don't want to see variety shows I would agree with us and I'm happy to hear that actually yeah yeah yeah yeah right god I mean don't you doesn't even remember the 60s and the 70s? People hated that shit. That shit went away. Well, what I hope is that, hey, don't talk shit about the mandrel sisters. All right. Maybe they'll pay closer attention to this and say, why do people watch

Leno or Letterman? Because you're choosing between Leno or Letterman. Sure. And then occasionally, they have tried to put news on like, didn't Dan Rather have something on ABC that was going to go up against Leno and Letterman? Well, I mean, they've had nightline forever. Yeah, and you know, it's just when those are your choices, when there's no narrative choice, you have to choose between one of those. Sure. So I think what this says is if people have a choice between story or variety, they're going to go for the story part. And hopefully it'll put the breaks on this whole thing of we can put a show up as long as it's cheap enough We can make money from that's the thing the thing that makes entertainment in the United States and the world really is production value

That's what makes it here. Yeah, yeah, and we're the only place it can produce it because we got the abundance of money or whatever And it's like and the resources yeah, yeah, so picking of NBC was I dreaming or did I read a story that said Comcast was thinking about buying NBC. I've heard that I I heard I heard. Can you buy NBC? They're part of Universal. Yeah, I heard what was named Murdoch was I could be wrong could be totally shot in the dark around CNBC where he was maybe making a bid for it. But you know, yeah, I thought I heard Comcast which seems fucking bizarre to me wanted to buy them, but they had to get like a 20% stake away from Vavindy. That's got to be a whole mess. Well, you get the Vindy out, then Vavindy loses universal. That would affect games too.

Yes, I have no idea. Well, I mean Marvel got bought up by Disney. You know, there's consolidation. That makes sense. A little bit to me. That makes total sense. Oh, it makes total sense because especially right now, it's like prices going to be being depressed, isn't it?

Yeah, but Comcast is, you know, a data provider. Well, no, they actually own networks as well. Comcast owns E and they own G4. Oh, I did not know that. Yeah, they do own that. I learned that on my last trip about that. This is the thing with Leno. It's like you basically have, you know,

you know, NBC or whoever trying to come up with more and more entertainment, cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. You know, and it's, I don't know. Great point. Seeing less narratives, seeing less narratives and any other form of entertainment other than narratives. The Comcast Entertainment Group includes E, entertainment television, style, fear net, I don't know what that is, and then G4 as well. So a lot of lifestyle channels in there. I don't know how NBC would particularly fit into that, but I don't know. The weird thing I find is how much the networks change places just in the course

of my lifetime. In my lifetime, NBC went from being bottom of the barrel to being an unstoppable juggernaut. Thursday night on NBC, you just couldn't compete with that. If you got a show on Thursday night on NBC, you were made for life. And now it's back to being, you know, CBS has somehow taken the lead again. I guess when survivor came out, CBS suddenly took off because they discovered the reality television. Yeah, they have survivors in the amazing race, too, right? Didn't they have your brother and big brother? Amazing race. I think it's still a pretty big cash cow for them.

I was reading about a little something about that the other day. We should go on that show. You want to? Yeah, let's do it. Let's make a video. OK. So what would be cool, what I think would be very cool, is if networks look at this and they say, hey, clearly,

when we put variety television up against cool narratives, which are the late night narratives, the late night narratives beat the shit of the variety stuff. So maybe we can extrapolate this up above even further and have for what would be on our times on 1030, have a 1030 narrative that's maybe a little bit closer to say the showtime in HBO style. You know what they could do? Sure.

As they could split it, they could have like a first half that's before the local news and then another half after the local news. I mean, how else do you ensure you're going to feel like that? That's a long block of programming. Well, you can make it a half an hour in front, half an hour at the end. But you know there'd be like pressure in inject like plot lines through the news. Like, you know, like, you want to be one of those fucking weather. I don't care. Well, what I saw them do, I think they tested those waters

a couple of years ago, because I remember for a while there, there was like a neutered version of Sex and the City that showed on one of the big three after like 11 on some nights Yeah, but it always mattered with time zone two because it's weird to us here the letterman comes on 11 30 Yeah, that's out in the east coast. Where does it come on in California, Joel? No, it comes on it comes on at 10 30 for us right right for us 11 30 east coast and I think West Coast matches the east coast time Right, yes, so 11 30 is on 11 That seems, uh, that seems very late to me. That's when Conan comes on for us. For this point I'm so dizzy I can't tell what. Sorry. Jimi, Jimi, Jimi, now comes on for us. Unless you live in Houston.

In which case Conan came on at fucking midnight? Yeah. They, they boycott it Conan the late night. But when that chick the other day on Saturday live when she said the F bomb on the air live. There was no fine because they were in safe harbor. So why can't some of these networks start doing stuff like HBO is doing and show it up? It's definitely opened up a little bit, but yeah, it'd be great to see them take more chances. You know what you don't see very often? You don't see shows graduating from the lower networks to the higher networks.

And by that I mean battle, Battlesar Galactica was a huge hit on sci-fi network. And there was never any talk of it coming up to NBC at any point in time, because it's in that same group of family, that family of channels, I should say. And I wonder why that is. Well, they probably want to use it, you know, from their perspective, they probably want to use it to push viewers out to sci-fi

to the smaller network. So you're saying if it works where it is, leave it there, right? Yeah, leave it there, and then draw the audience out over there. One interesting concept, maybe they should have done that with Leno. And now Conan's, well, Letterman's just a juggernaut right now because of his scandal, was he got the going on. His convenient scandals.

But he was already beating Conan before that. Yeah, he was. I don't really care much about this stuff. I never watch, do you ever watch those shows? I don't have TV. Oh yeah. You don't have TV yet if we ask you about the office, you've seen every episode. What? I mean, quit using, I don't have TV as an excuse because obviously you can watch TV. I can watch what's on Hulu. I don't exactly. I don't even watch TV. But I don't, can I watch Letterman on TV? It's

on a Hulu. Well, that's my point. You don't go looking for it. No. I would. You can watch on CBS. The only shows I watch her 30 rock in the office. Gus watches it. Gus watches like Letterman and yeah, I always have it on. Look normally when I'm playing while I just have it the TV on. I would watch it. I'd watch it in the background if it was readily available. But I'm not going to go. Like you're right. I'm not going to go out of my way for it. If I have to search it out, it's not going to happen. I heard what you're pointing at me because I heard that you are currently trying to

infect Jack with the wild virus. No, no, he infected himself. You wanted to know what it was about. I sent him a 10-day trial and he liked it. That's that's infecting people. He approached me. He could stop whenever he wants. Oh, no, give me the first fit for free and then he started paying. I showed him all about add-ons. I showed him auctioneer yesterday. No. He's fucking, he's in. Listen, Jack's a very hard working noble guy. If there's any girls out there, a guy with no girlfriend should not be playing wild. He's already at level 22 or so. Wow, level 22. Awesome. What is he playing? Mage. Is anyone in this room not going to play

the new Star Wars? Older public? Yeah. When it comes up, of course we will. I'm in meaning to play Aeon and I haven't played it yet. I don't I don't play those games at all and I'm considering playing the old Republic will probably might not have a Mac counterpart that sucks what so I mean that's something to be be aware of What can that be I won't play it then most most of the most are like that I think I thought it's changed Most most everything is like that. I mean I used to to be like that. I mean, there's oh god I'm astonished. Why are you upset? Because I'm buying max. Are you gonna buy a Mac? Yeah, really you can always boot camp and sell you played on the other side Neh

Give your computer for your I've never I've never I've been a PC person my whole life and Just Microsoft certified right? Yeah, that's it life and Microsoft certified right? Yeah, that's it But I am but God knows how but yeah, the next computer. I'm getting this is gonna be a Mac I think is just are you Microsoft certified yes? No, no, we're probably not anymore Joel you're probably not anymore. No, I'm sure I'm well. I'm certified in NT server 4.0 which is like 8 million years ago the only certification I ever got was for like Solaris, like Solaris 8, something administration.

I don't even fucking remember. I went in to go see if I could get Microsoft certified. I went in to take the test, so I would know what to study for. And I passed the test with the score, the exact score you need to pass. Just going in blind and taking it. That's how I got a microstructure. Those are tough tests. Those are tough tests.

My logic was I knew a lot about Windows already. Let's just go in and see. For sure. You know what the great, you guys were telling me about Bing.com, which is like, and now I think the greatest thing on the internet now is internet sites that fill out fields for you on other internet sites. You're specifically talking about the Bing.com travel section, right? Yeah, right.

Fantastic. That's great. I think I talked about it a little bit. I love the idea of out there of all those internet sites that are like they don't work and the thing that there's a pain in the ass to fill out just being usurped by other sites who are just going to fill out the forms for me. They fill out the form more efficiently. Love it.

I like my favorite part about Bing is the daily picture. I go just to look at the picture. Look at the forum more efficiently. Love it. I like my favorite part about being is the daily picture. I go just to look at the picture. Look on it. Yeah, I love it. I click on it and there's like, it tells me a little bit of information about like Thailand or like some sort of a caterpillar. I only go there if I'm going to like book travel and that's obviously I haven't done that since PAX.

No, I go to pretty regularly to see what the daily photo is. I like the fact that there's a travel site that doesn't force me to book through the travel site. Right. Like Expedia and travelosity. I find it odd too. Isn't Expedia Microsoft? I thought it was. I don't know. I think it is. So it doesn't mean to be a major function on Bing's travel is Expedia.

It's not one of the main ones that pushes you through. It doesn't. I thought it pushed you through Orbit's travelosity and Expedia. It's got a check box for it, but it's not the level of integration I would have. Oh, I see. So yeah, but it's nice not, I hate, I've booked through Hotels.com and I've booked through travelosity. And those are great, especially if you want to find

a last minute good deal. They're not so great if you ever have travel that needs to be flexible in any way. There's nothing worse than talking to an airline person, working out your ticket and then saying, I can't change this, you have to call travelosity and have them change it. And then you might as well just, you know, you may so just start walking back to wherever you need to go. You probably should get there just as fast. You should work on growing wings at that point. Get yourself there. Yeah, that's the worst. I I Hate booking through those third party sites just for that reason. XPD is the first checkbox something. I just checked. Oh

There you go and booking buddy never heard of that booking buddy. Travelosity is not an option. Huh? They couldn't they couldn't they couldn't paint a money to the Lacken's the known. He just feel you guys like I'm like I can I digest the information faster Well borderlands is coming out today, and I'm really excited to play this game I feel like it's a game. I didn't hear a lot about I think until right around packs time Yeah, you and I checked it out at packs at that Microsoft event. Yeah, and I saw it was pretty pretty cool It seems like an interesting hybrid seems like the kind of game that I I will want to play the shit out of

It's getting some pretty good reviews too. Oh, I said I haven't even seen any of them. Yeah I mean it's it's they haven't been like stellar, but their reviews have been pretty good and it good enough to certainly want to play it and Hopefully someday we'll be able to leave and go to best plan. I saw one of the TV commercials. I liked it. Did you really? Yeah, I thought I thought it was well done Okay, you probably haven't seen it. I don't think I have it on a whoo whoo. Yeah, it's on the borderlands here. Yeah, it doesn't seem like a real game to me Really? It doesn't it doesn't seem like a real release to me. I don't know why it a I think it's a bigger release than I thought it was gonna be it They did midnight launches at like 1300 game stops really for it. Yeah, I really don't think it's gonna be that big I didn't either apparently this is a triple-a title that we were just under our radar. Yeah, so I mean we haven't been talking about it in the office And I don't know why I mean, I don't know anything about it seems kind of cool. Yeah, what I've heard about it

But yeah, it doesn't seem like it's been on the radar There's only here for what is it raining? Is this this is not available on 360? Yeah, it's 360. Oh On your box platforms, right? Yeah, 60xpx Yeah, there's three actually big games coming out this week. Two of them are nowhere on my radar. I don't think anybody else in the offices. Smackdown versus raw. Those games always sell like 2 million copies.

And FIFA 10, which supposedly is the fastest selling EA sports game of all time. Yeah, well, I bet that has. That probably sells a little more overseas than it does here. Yeah, for sure. I saw a TV commercial for Cabela's Hunting video game or Cabela puts out two or get two games a year. Do they have a budget for TV commercials. I guess so

Like during the that's crazy to me. Dude that Cabela's in the buta is supposed to be the second largest tourist spot in Texas You know Yeah, oh my god, they say it brings like 3 1 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 2 a year. I don't know if you know this Joel, but the last two Cabela's games that have come out have happened coincidentally come out on the same day as Halo Game launches.

Yep. The last Cabela's game came out the same day as ODST. And the previous Cabela's game came out the same day as Halo 3. And the Mega 64 guys did two very funny videos about that. Oh, I'll make sure to link it. What is the deal with that? I just say it sounds like somebody's getting their news from Mega 64 Edge.

Yeah, totally, totally stolen from Mega 64 videos. Who knew that Mega 64 would be a reliable source for video game news? Who knew? In the future, all news is going to be in the form of entertainment. It will be in the form of a three minute skip. Yeah. So this is going to be more of a visual thing, but I still want to show it to you anyway, and you can link it in linked up, but I was showing this to

Jeff the other day. It's a picture of a dude from Germany who is the arm wrestling champion of Germany He's a skinny little dude. He essentially just works out one arm. It's creepy. God. He looks like His arm looks his forearm looks swollen like he got bit by a B. He looks like a fiddler crab Oh, we like to talk about it looks like the charger. He does look kind of that charger. Yeah, I want I actually you and I should do that Jeff you should work out your left arm. I work on my right arm. Okay. We have the best high fives ever Freaky that's pretty freaky. Well, he's got a reason for it though. He's an arm wrestling champion I guess so Continue mentioning on the other side of that dude and like you know

Like trying to pick a fight with him at a bar and be like what the fuck's wrong with you buddy? Then he turns around with his giant arm. It's like locks you in the face with his hellboy arm dude Yeah, I wonder if he like watched that other set of the sense that I became inspired Why does he have the wristbands on the non big arm? No idea. I don't mind him that it's there to cut off the blood to keep the blood flowing like the lower to the build up. I wonder if he naturally tilts.

Like one side is a lot heavier than the other side, right? That's got to be weird. No, I'm sure we would just that. I don't know. They're just reading goodbye. Might have some lower back pain. Yeah, I mean, just working out would be odd. It's, you know, going to my curls again. It's just curl. It's really strange. I wonder if it like how far

into his back would that go? And it's chest. I mean, it's not just the arm. I don't know. Do somebody needs to tell like, I'd stop it. That's perfect. The thing I don't understand is like, you can work out both arms in conjunction at the same time So why not like why focus on one arm? Like what's he doing with his other arm while it is he like doing taxes? Well, this other arm while he's working out. Why can't he do both? His forearm on his right arm is 18 inches round. Oh, I think mine's like four. I think your thigh is maybe 18 inches You know, and that's his forearm So it's crazy really crazy. Wow speaking of a another visual thing

We hadn't seen the drunkest guy ever tried it by beer by last The best video I've ever seen on the it's like you should link that Absolutely, that guy's got to be sick that I saw the video that's some wrong with that guy. It's like I wondered at that the first time I saw it was like this is this guy really drunk or is he having seizures on the floor like unable to stand up. It's going into a diabetic coma or something like that. That guy's mastery of gravity is exceptional.

It looks like someone had like an invisible force keeping him down or something like that or he looked like the original star track. I think he had an invisible force keeping him up when he was like walking in his heads like all the way back and I don't know how that dude Was walking it doesn't look possible. It's like Michael Jackson in that video The honie leans forward. Yeah, they had help with that. Yeah, and they didn't do it I was depressing to play that out by the way. I think we we lamented that in a previous podcast Yeah, what what we talk about? Oh moonwalker. You know when they lean forward in the what song? Smith criminal. Thank you.

Smith criminal. When they he does that big long lean forward and it's wow, they do that. They have pegs in the floor and they put their shoes in the pegs. Well, when they did the video, they did it with cables and they painted the cables out. But for the show, the stage show, you guys were lamenting. We I thought it was real. As a kid, I thought it was real too. Yeah, of course. Yeah. The dude could do a moonwalk. Why couldn't you lean forward a lot? No, I mean, yeah, that's you know sucks that it to find out that something you thought was you know

You have so real and very cool. Yeah, probably sex with lots of kids. Well allegedly Allegedly, it's open your first find out that Randy Johnson's really a Yeti The same thing you gonna take it off. You thought he was a regular person. Nope. What if Randy Johnson had a Wungion arm like that, dude? He's a Sasquatch. He probably does, but you can't tell, you know,

because his arms aren't close enough together. So again, they kind of frame of reference. Such a huge man. What's he doing now? Is he still bitching? He's a long go. He has like a car dealership in Arizona or something right. So what are you doing this weekend? Gus?

What am I doing this weekend? Oh, I don't know. It's not from making a DVD what he does again. I have no idea actually Hopefully we'll play some dungeon dragons. Yeah, I don't know. We're supposed to play tonight, but I don't I have a feeling that What's played a night? It's Tuesday. We play on Tuesdays. Huh no one told me about that every Tuesday we play How do you when someone doesn't show up for D&D? What happens? They don't get XP. So you have a party of say four people and then suddenly you're only three people for a little while and then you're back to four people. Yeah. That person's like on autopilot. Like everyone will kind of communally run him and do what they

think that person would have done. The DM roll form and stuff. Or he just like stays in the vehicle. Why don't you just play wow? I mean, why not? Totally different experience. Okay, it's pretty different. And it's also free. After you buy the $100 worth of books and dies and miniatures.

Yeah, but I bought that shit 10 years ago. Or whatever. It's a one time fee. You don't include the computer in the cost of your wild playing. You know, it's a computer for other stuff, dude. I used my 20s at a time-time fee. You don't include the computer in the cost of your while playing. You know, it's like he's a computer for other stuff, dude. I use my 20-sad tie all the time. You know, just for the hell of it. So he's figuring out his budget.

Sure, yeah, just roll 20s. Just for the fuck of it. Why not? Why not, indeed. Apple introduced a new mouse today, among other things, but I think the only thing that affects us would be the mouse. The magic mouse, is that what it's called?

Hey, yes, have you seen it? No. I saw it a lot of like a multi-touch gesturing on the mouse. It doesn't have a button, right? Or something like that? Has one button? I'm not sure I trust. I don't trust something that doesn't have a button.

I'm not sure. Is everything in your life has to have a button? I don't trust anything with the button. Yeah, it has multi-touch. You can scroll and you can scroll up. you can scroll and you know scroll up You can scroll and you can scroll pretty much scrolling what you're gonna be doing I don't know if you're gonna do anything else. You need to do what I'm asking They've integrated on my laptop has pinch zoom on it and I think this thing has pinch zoom as well That's the most useless function of all time really. Yeah, I even hated on my iPhone

I usually the double tap to zoom in because I just the most useless function of all time. Pinching. Yeah, I even hated on my iPhone. I usually double tap to zoom in, because I just pinched zoomed. It's not about that. It's just, it's like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, what they need is a function on the iPhone that when it like when the screen decides for whatever reason it's gonna turn sideways on you,

they need a function for it to go back to normal. Because God fricking knows, it's trying to twist the phone or shake the phone or whatever It will not go back to normal. Why are you shaking your phone? I'm gonna show you a little trick. You turn it like this It's called a 90 degree turn Okay, my iPhone work fine until like two weeks ago when I tried to get the upgrade so you started shaking it and saying Worked Strive me crazy. So chill. Let me see you don't give me the straight. You're having a technical problem with some piece of technology that you own?

God. I find that hard to believe. Joel hates the cleaning ladies now. I know. Because the cleaning ladies dismantle his equipment every time they come in. Supposedly. The cleaning ladies are awesome. The cleaning ladies are great. They're super nice too. Well, it's hard to believe anyone coming within like a five foot radius of my desk Not accidentally somehow unplugging something or other that takes four hours to try and figure out what's unplugged from. We're talking about the switcher box. It's conveniently located at your foot.

That magically gets kicked. And then splitter. God damn. Anytime Joel has a promise like the first thing I always look at is the splitter still on. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it.

I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it. I'm not there for about 10 minutes trying to figure out all the cables to figure out what's wrong. Jeff walks in, sees me under the desk and saying, and it just immediately says, check the power on the splitter. He probably kicked it out again. And sure enough, that's exactly what it was.

Jeff was there half a second, and he was the problem. More complex. That's exactly what it was. Well, there wasn't reboot involved after that. We plugged it in and restarted the computer and that was it more more complex away We don't we have another splitter now. We should find a way to integrate that on there now. No, please stop There's also I just got my gav left and I got my computer back from Congratulations from Gavin. Thank you very much

So now I have my workstation back. I was here the entire time Gavin was here I don't remember people needing the computer constantly when Gavin was here I don't remember that and then as soon as I get my computer back Everyone's on my computer doing stuff you you look so down I had to leave the office for a little while this morning you weren't here yet and when I was leaving That was sitting himself down at your computer to work and when I came in you were just sitting on this up and looked so down trod and waiting for Matt to get up and the second Matt gets up you go sit down in your computer and you go hey let's

set up a shot and Gus goes podcast yeah get up no Gus came in to do an achievement hundred video that was more now this is the podcast to do it so somehow I mean we didn't get it have to get up to do the podcast that's the one thing yeah I don't remember Matt and the problem that I have is that when people use my computer They just rearranged stuff for no reason. We have a new guy who just started working in the office first day here his first day in the office I Matt my computer trying to filter lines for the episode we were putting out last night I could not hit the raid. I couldn't hit the raid

I could ask him does did you change something on the raid? What's going on? I can't connect to the raid. I've got to get this done. Can't get to the raid. Somebody helped me. What's going on? Finally, he says, oh, I took your network cable. First day, first day, it's part of the indoctrination. You don't know about it. It's in the processing. You know, when we were to the beauty office, Matt had his own computer right next to mine. Matt would dismantle all my cables, and he would say, I was testing something. And apparently he was testing my

patients. This is what he's testing, because I would come in. Everything would be dismantled. Well, you, uh, you bring it on yourself sometimes. Didn't you play a practical joke on him yesterday? I did. You're what I did. Yeah. Matt was wearing a hoodie, and we have a cat here that Matt hates and so I put a bunch of cat Nip in Matt's hood in his hoodie while he was at his desk and Brand-in-Chick a picture of it the cat is all over Alone it was a guy my shoulders was chewing on his head What is wrong with this cat?

In that's defense, he swears he doesn't hate the cat. He just hates everything the cat stands for. He hates the idea of the cat. Oh. And now I have to find a new home for the cat. I really do have to find a home for him. Maybe anybody lives in Austin. He is the greatest cat in the U.S.,

which maybe we should give him away in a contest. No, no, no, no, no. I'm going to try to find him a home with someone I know. But he really is. We know everybody on the site. And everyone on the site loves us. We are like a big extended family. We are like a big extended family.

We should give the cat away. You can FedExa cat, right? Oh, yeah. For sure. No, I love that cat. He is not leaving Austin. He's the greatest cat ever. I want visitation rights.

For you. A very sweet cat. He's awesome. Why don't you take him? You need another cat. I have two cats. Yeah, but what's a third cat? I, uh, a third more trouble in my life.

I'll kill one of the first two cats. I'll make you the only one. I appreciate the offer. I'll make you deal with like strangers on the train. You kill my dog and I'll kill your cat. Just, uh, get rid of Isaac. No way, dude. Isaac's the best cat ever. I love that'll kill your cat just get rid of Isaac no way dude Isaac's the best cat ever I love that cat that cat's fucking awesome now why don't you take Joe no

no I don't want it come on he's a good cat I think Nathan's brother's gonna take him I hope so I hope so especially after seeing what he does to that corner of the couch there's no way I'm taking that cat he does shed a lot god the cat is a shedding machine He makes me wonder how he has hair left. Maybe he's going like bald. That'd be great. That'd be great to have a cat with a receding hairline. Would that work at the back or would they just go from the front like a person? We had a bald spot.

I don't know. Why is that though? I have two cats that don't shed at all, ever. You just don't see it. I guess. Joe has white hair in addition to his orange hair and sits on a black couch all day. Yeah, that's the thing about Joe. He's got like two spots in the office.

So like he really concentrates. You know, where he drops his hair. Yeah, I'm sitting on it right now. Plus he sleeps about 18 hours a day. Yeah, it's a pretty stressful life. It is a stressful life to be a cat. Maybe you should give him his own internet. You got people hiding your catnip and other people's clothes. That was great. Got to work to get it out. Matt was perplexed. What time

did you do that? It was late. It was like 11 o'clock at night. Okay. Just bored. You know, late night, late night in the office doing production. I thought, I can say, Matt's your working hard. I think I'll sabotage him. How about that? That sounds like fun. This is just like he used to do to you. back in the beauty office. Bernie would come in and be so mad he would walk over to Matt Steskin and just unplug every wire and cable. You did that not to let him go. See how you like it, unplug, unplug, unplug. No I actually had great vindication because at the end of the whole thing Matt realized that he was taking screenshots which he was doing for the cover of the DVD. He was taking screenshots on a profile called Butthole69,

that Gav had set up. And if you take screenshots on a non-live enabled profile, you have no way to get the screenshots. You can't push them to the web and pull them down. So Matt had to go and make Butthole69, have it join live and make a new account. Surprisingly Butthole69 was not an available gamer tag. Well, do we have to beat that out so people don't fucking find it and look through his

bungee net profile? Well, no, no, no, it's a different name. No, it's a different name. We had to change it because but hole 69 was not available. Like all the profiles in this office from now on should be like princess happy time or whatever. Anything other than but hole or whatever, you know, because it's like, those are all taken. They're all taken. Well, also, it would just get, it would get deleted immediately. It'd get pulled down. You know what though? He's talking about something,

Gus and I talked about today. Gus and I have decided when it comes to grammar, fuck it. We're not going to care anymore. Yeah, why do I have to spell right? I saw someone misspell you guys something on the internet and it sent me off and I'm like, why am I the only one still spelling things correctly? Why, why are we making a me write am I the one that stands out now because I do things right? I'm just gonna conform fuck I give up you you'll make it that's it I got a man. I'm just gonna start mashing the keyboard like hopefully the sentiment comes across if I just start Pounding the keyboard people understand what I'm trying to say because that'll probably be about spelled just about as well Well if they see it's coming from you.'m sure they've known what the sentiment's gonna be.

I gotta say, man, on our raid, there's a folder called calendar, and calendar is spelled D-A-R at the end. And I have not tried to out the person who did that, but somebody put calendar. Well, there's not very many people who would work on the calendar. I can think of one person who might have worked on the calendar Who is notoriously a great spell already? Yeah, it's it's a symptom of the times, right? Yeah, we need a spell check at the door We're gonna be like a detector that went off when you came in I know you're about to spell something incorrectly

Wonder like okay something in about this, right? Obviously, there's spell checking a lot of places now. Obviously, like, you're typing a document everywhere. There's a spell checker. But the one exception, whether you just point it out, is like if you make a folder. Right. Like, there's no way to do that. Could you make like a little USB device, you could plug in your keyboard, and it would

let you know always if you were misspelling something like a little red light come on. Or how about if everything you wanted to do? What would you do? Electric shot. What would that matter? They have it on the screen underlying in red when they post stuff on the web. Yeah, but when they're making a folder in their operating system. How about a device that requires you to spell the thing you're trying to use accurately

before you can use it? Like you have to spell door DOR before you can open door. Oh, I see. You spell a DOR, you can't get in. I think what you're saying, right? Like, scribble knots. What it was that set you off, right, was because somebody put some time and effort Like you have to spell door DOR before you can open door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door door making all of this put together. They were making one of those fake motivational posters. Right. Those are always fucked up. You're not on either. They're spelled wrong. They're always spelled wrong. They don't get the joke. Right? And most of the time there is no joke. There's nothing there. It's the most misunderstood meme in the history of the internet, I think. It draws me nuts. They're just right just write picture than sometimes we these are words

It's funny how like certain things. It's just like there's just no there's no end. There's no end to that no No, you're spot almost it's bottomless Venkats see before the internet we were not exposed to other people's writing Because people didn't write stuff you didn't forget letters from people Yeah, you had pin pals and stuff didn't you? I was a kid sure I never had pin pal. I did my parents didn't write to their pin pals in the kitchen all day long No, no, did your parents they write letters all day? I did my mom wrote a lot of letters to her friends They did bills and stuff, but I just don't think we'll wrote a personal correspondence people than you now people wrote a lot

Well, they physically wrote a lot more back then I mean like my mom would sit down and write a letter to her friend Kathy for instance or you know to keep it in touch with people We moved around a lot to though instead of calling Yeah, call it writing a letter. It's like a stamp calling is expensive. That is true calling you to be a lot more expensive than is now It's not like it is now. Yeah USB prank device will make your office mates hate you have you seen this? No actually I did see that that's why I said the USB device that flashes when you Maybe think of it when you said that. It doesn't have the same brain weight It's really weird. It's a U.S. I would use this on you. So you'd be glad I'm talking about it because I would definitely buy this and use it on your computer.

You plug it into a USB port and you set the time delay and you say do you want to affect the the keyboard you want to affect the mouse and the caps lock and it random intervals It'll turn your caps lock on and off and unplug your switcher and then make your keyboard Exactly right. It just tests things on your computer and then make your mouse move around the screen at random intervals without your That's fucking brilliant. It says that the one the things it won't do is it won't auto save like it won't control S and it won't hit the enter key And it won't hit the inner key that And it won't hit the Enter key. That makes sense. Will you mouse clicks? Probably not. Don't I don't think so.

Nothing no damage. Right. Nothing that can't be undone. Right. It first it sounds funny, but then I would just assume I had a virus. Yeah. What is it cost? I don't know where it costs.

It's available from Thumbs Up UK. So it's going to have some kind of currency that I'm not familiar with I'm sure sure the euro pound or something the L dollar sign It is Out of stock so no price stock dangerous about these suggested retail price is 19 pounds 99 pants. It seems like a lot of money does seem like a. Like 35 bucks. Yeah, those little things I bought to annoy Jeff during our contest that would beep in his house right now, which by the way, I like physical better than electronic any day of the week. Sure. And the things that I would

set around Jeff's house that would beep at random intervals. So he would go crazy from the beeping. Those cost me I think $7.50. That was money. Well, you know, there were you that device. There were a couple of different settings, like a couple of different noises it couldn't make. And there was one that device there were a couple different settings like a couple different noises It couldn't make and there was one that's like super high pitched. That was the $10 one my wife cannot hear that That's interesting That's cricket she can't hear that super high pitch one like I showed it to her one day. I was up here and I showed it to her she's like What does it do? It's like that noise it just made that noise like what noise?

Didn't hear it we talked about this a long time ago like teenagers can hear certain sound waves certain sound waves and adults can't or whatever. Yeah, they have things to hold his wife. 50. Well, they have a higher range of frequency than older people do. Younger people can hear a higher frequency. In fact, they have deterrence teenager deterrence. Right. Right. They're called mosquitoes. Is that right? I think that's what they're called, yeah. And they would put sirens or, excuse me, loudspeakers outside of places that teenagers lawyer and they would play the sound and drive away the teenagers. Let's say they did that with birds at Whole Foods. That's fucking awesome. I don't remember being a teenager

and trying to go to a convenience store. There would be signs that would say, no more than two teenagers in the store at any time, or two students. Did you guys have stuff like that? No, I don't remember that. Or like, you know, leave your backpack at the door or whatever. There would be signs of it say like no loafing and loitering, but no.

No loafing. Are you not thinking of Home Start Runner maybe? No, no. They were all over South Carolina. No loafing, wow. Loafing. That's a Home Start Runner thing, right? Well, loafing is a word, but they have no loafing sign in it. Maybe that's where they get it from. Maybe it's a home star that's a home star runner thing right? Well, love things a word, but they have no loafing sign.

Do they maybe that's where they get it from? Maybe it's a southern thing. I think we're up in Alabama, Florida. Wow. No, no thing was so official they could be on a sign. No, yeah. They also have the cell in the site, the keychain device, the fob that you can use to turn off any television set.

Motherfuckers. Those videos where people are watching a soccer game or something and some guy will be outside the pub and turn it off and the whole bar freaks out. So funny, that's such a riot. If somebody did that, I would throw him in a trash bag. Until I got this fucking soccer who ligand. Did you ever see when Gizmodo did that? Yeah, that's the fucking CES.

Yep. That's the people were giving presentations, you know, that their livelihood depends on. Mm-hmm. His jackass shows up and shuts off as monitor was giving a presentation like 50 people. That is not fucking cool. Who showed me the reality show from Japan? I can't remember what it was where the guy gets caught face. Kicking the face. I showed you the one where they make the dude think that everyone around him is getting shot. I haven't seen that. You told me about that. That's about that very funny god that sounds great. There's a sniper that yeah that game show by the way is called panic face king

They want to scare this face You know I tried I tried to look up a thing you guys showed me years ago Which was a game show where they would go into Japanese people's bedrooms while they were sleeping and they would wheel in a gigantic cannon and fire the cannon. Do you remember this? I couldn't find a clip of it anywhere. I mean, you had to be sound asleep. I remember, I think I saw this and when they took one of the dudes' beds and put it on a dock where he was sleeping like next to water and then shot the camera. Oh god woke up and it fell in the way. The Japanese are

light years ahead of us and entertains. I don't understand like you you look at their culture you know it's like they're like I don't so dude and like they pee sitting down and then they're quiet you know it's like and then they have these games shows and you're just like what in the Peace sitting now, where do you get your Knowledge? I was explaining Joel how the toilets in Japan are different and they're somewhere you like oh Like I know you're talking about it. It's not a toilet like you're used to here in the US There's probably more of those in the world than toilets like we have right Right. Yeah. That's the entire Middle East is like that.

That must be a thing in the culture to not sue, because if we did half the stuff in their game shows over here, everybody would sue. Yeah, like the ones where the people are walking up that narrow alley and they'll throw a giant boulder at them. They got to run away. Some businessmen walking down the street and they'll get hit and get knocked over. Or they're like all of a sudden, like a crowd of a hundred people will run at them Screaming and yelling I guess I'll sell all the jackass guys get away with that stuff filming over there

Well, what about the one where there was somewhere they had a porta potty too and people going to use the porta potty And then the porta potty's roof would open and it would elevate the naked Like an elevator would lift them up So suddenly they're out in the open up above everyone else completely naked using the toilet This is gonna be a fun link. This is gonna be a real fun link dump to put together All these videos you guys gonna be laughing as ass. Oh, I know Who's not the one that you showed on the side of the ski slope where they go into the room and they sit down I'm the only one who like that those Those guys didn't think it was fun.

I did that the setup was way too long, but it's funny for a guy to get propelled down a mountain. And that is the guys, I guess, are like at a sauna or something at a ski resort and they go in and sit down in a recliner and they're drinking tea and all of a sudden the wall falls down in the rocket's ignite under their chair and shoots them down the ski slope. You can be like, it's actually the lead. It's funny. It's funnier to describe than it is to watch for some reason. I don't know what it is. That video just fell flat for me.

Two cool things happen in that space though. This week that I'm very happy about. Did you guys see the video from the prank show with the guy walked up in some kind of promenade and put a plastic bag over another guy's head as a prank and then ran away and nobody understood what was happening and he runs by a dude this is what I was talking about who did a roundhouse and took him out really the guys were in full speed and this guy goes out like a back roundhouse catches the guy in the chin with his foot and he's out like a light wow no I did not see that finally that happened to somebody somebody some prank show

Somebody got it back because nobody knew what was going on and they thought the guy was being attacked and then the other one Is this course that's balloon kid where they pulled these hoax all these people are out, you know They they the rescue teams are out spending money. I Called it. Yeah, Gus called it. I was actually upset like I was watching you in all that days I identified for that I didn't know about it. I came back and I said what are you doing? He's like oh this balloon kids in the balloon you splashed me. I was like all right Well, you get a hoax. I think the kids not in there. I said the kids in a box at his house Yeah, you get a set to set because I don't know what you guys are talking about

How can you not know about the balloon kid? I don't know's like the biggest it's all there is on the news right now. All right, well, it's 22. Okay. Last Thursday, this family in Colorado called the police because they had this giant weather balloon in their backyard that looked like a UFO and they said they're like six-year-old son crawled into it and the balloon took off and went to like eight thousand feet in the air and like started drifting away. So what happened? Okay, wait a minute. This family, this is not the first time they've been on TV, right? They were on a wife's swap. What the fuck is going on?

Yeah, well here's what it all blows down to is that cops and EMS and all kinds of people were out trying to find this kid because then there was a story that maybe there was a he was not in the balloon. He was in a box under the balloon and that they saw something fall from the balloon. And so everybody thought that this poor kid fell 7,000 feet, you know, to a horrible death, or that he was just scared shitless hanging out in this balloon. And so they're chasing the balloon down and putting all the... They have to close Denver International Airport.

Yeah, they're putting all these resources towards finding the balloon and then the box. And it finds... it's come out supposedly that it was all a hoax perpetrated by the dad who was trying to get a TV series about science I was gonna use the publicity to do like a mad science kind of show and now he's being criminally investigated in the Fed's are I just read this one of the Fed's are involved We so good. Yeah, yeah, absolutely because we're all sick of stupid attention-horring people. Yeah, here's the guy who it looks like Has done it on an hour criminal level. Yeah. So I think everyone is thank God somebody did this on a level that we can throw a book at

somebody for being a detention-horror. Yeah. Yeah. And say unbelievable. God, I'd be pissed if like my flight was delayed over nothing. Dude, no kidding. It's fucking horrible. You can tell we spent too much too much time in airports because that's like the thing that I Kite I I'm so worried for that poor kid. I know you even called you when I see this I found a hook. Yeah, no, yeah, he did Yeah, so I wanted it to be a hoax I wanted it to be I wanted all I wanted it to be a kid who let the bloom go and got scared and hit under a bed or something

Right now, but still as a parent you're just like that's a fucking terrifying idea Well, the problem is that the kid is safe the problem is that the parents are letting other people put themselves in danger Yep, and not telling people if they knew about it absolutely just to get more attention so that they can get a reality show What the fuck and it will be your kids in that man? You know, I mean if that if that's what took place I Hope that guy goes jail my wife was saying well if he if this guy goes jail then the kids won't have a father on it's like the kids Don't have a father around yeah, that's the case How is not every parent is a good influence maybe we could get a reality show about it dude in prison?

Yeah, there you go, right? Good Lord you need break What you call it balloon dad gets balloon raped It's a work of a title. Well, yeah, we can play around with it. I wonder where they have the balloon. It was like the flight of the navigatorship. They built that I think it was like a family project.

It's probably the guys like really big into like friend science and had been like doing a lot of wacky experiments and shit. Yeah. Okay. You mean over under is it in your show office? No. No way. No, I don't think so. I think there'll be too much. You might be surprised. Too much too many bad feelings about it. You might be surprised. Somebody might come over the show where bad things happen to this guy. You know, I don't know. I never know. He, a guy like that's probably so sick for attention and

fame that he would take any kind of show, even if it was ultimately disparaging towards him. Right. We watched just the other day of video in the web where dudes first for the other television so stood in front of a tennis ball launcher oh yeah oh yeah just to get on TV aimed at his crotch for science they said that they fired a tennis ball at him at 50 miles an hour so they could film it hitting his crotch in slow motion so they could test his fucking heart rate. Yeah Heart rate to see if he got up to 180 beats per minute Guess what he did

He was at 140 before they pulled the trigger It's so hard so dumb people do anything to be on TV. Yeah, I guess so I guess so but I'm holding your kids a totally different level Yeah, you know, it's just odd You want to prank your wife, that's fine. There's that couple that's on break that constantly just pranks each other. I don't even know if it's real or not. Those guys are heroes. Sure, why not?

That'll care. It's funny. Did your wife, when you walk around us, did your wife get scared? Do you find you startle your wife a lot? No. I think it's pretty easy to hear me coming. I think that, you know, if I'm walking on the hall You know it's Bernie coming or you could hear me. I don't sneak up on you

I actually do to do to you guys a lot try to sneak up on you my wife I scare the shit out of her unintentionally about four times a day really yeah, she must be death Just like nervous, I guess I don't know. I just walk up and I say Do we have a she immediately starts screaming of the top of the lungs, because she said, I snuck up on her to scare her. No, my wife, it's like the opposite. It's like, hey, honey, please, I'm talking. Just, can you look at me? Can you pay attention to me for two seconds?

I just need to ask you a question. Oh, where's she getting involved with stuff? She's busy doing important shit. There's more important than me. Hyper-focus? Yeah. She's making a puppet or fucking cutting something or gluing something.

What are we here about you having a troop of puppeteers that live at your house now? They don't live in my house, but they used to meet, not anymore, but for the summer they met one night a week to do a puppet workshop in my studio. And there might be like an international puppeteer living at your house or something. Yeah, they're working on some program with the city where there's gonna be like a puppet swap and they want to host the puppeteer at our house and pay us for it. So I'd be willing to do that for some more puppet swap puppet's

Love sounds dirty. Yeah, we have very different lives you and I yeah, I said one night a week It started as one night a week, but as they got closer to their show they were here like seven days a week at my house That's living your house They didn't spend the night. I started. Yeah, they don't live in my house. So this is your seven days We just eating food. Yeah, they would always to their credit. They always brought tons of beer. I didn't have to buy a beer for the last like four months It's awesome. Yeah, they would keep the little mini fridge in the studio stocked I just want to say you can't come to my house and do that I'll buy my own beer. I don't want people at my house seven days a week. Yeah, that's why we got the office in beauty, right?

That's true. Yeah, I'm ready to have seven days a week. Yeah, that's why we got the office in beauty, right? That's true. Yeah. We write your house seven days a week. Well, that was the big, you know, sometimes when we work late, this, in this week before we're making a DVD, it's always very late hours because we're just very finite amount of work we have to get done. So we'll just get it done as quickly as possible and get the DVD out as soon as we possibly can, right?

So we have very long hours and these are the days when my wife will sometimes say to me, you know, I haven't seen you in three or four days, you know, like you're gone when I wake up and you're not home by the time I fall asleep. And I have to remind her that we were all in our house for a year and a half making reverses blue and she kicked us the hell out. You got to get out of here. It's true. I was just not being there. I was surprised at how tolerant I was like how could how could she deal with that. Well, there was a we had Jack was very young. He was almost a year at that point a year old. Yeah. So that seems like you make it a lot harder even. No, I think it was nice break to not have be there with a kid all day. Because I think we just stay at home. See the thing is I'm not for her or for you. See, I'm talking about her not you. When you're home

with a kid all day, just with a kid that kind of changes your frame of reference. And I don't think you've done that in your life, Joel. Have you? But I've seen a lot of people. It's like you just clamor for any kind of adult conversation where everything's not, ooh, look, pink, you know, and things like that.

Mm-hmm. That sounds awesome. But I can tell you a story about the longest, you know, the long hours that we've kept with the rest of the strangest story I've ever had like that. Have you ever had a period where you've been home and you haven't, you feel like you're not in sync with your own house? Can everything Jeff, where you've worked since long hours? I don't.

Maybe? I don't know. Nothing comes to mind. But I mean, I've definitely had some weird times, you know. After season one, when we would stay up all night, Thursday night, essentially, for a year straight, and I felt like I got so out of sync with the world that nothing mattered. And we were going to the Lincoln Center to premiere season two, and I was working on that. And my wife comes in and she says, it's after midnight, and I said, okay, she goes, it's after midnight, and I go, baby says it's after midnight and I said okay she goes

it's after midnight and I go baby it's after midnight okay I work after midnight all the time I go what's the big deal why it's after midnight she says happy new year and walked out I was like oh shit so I had to show off my computer and I go go spend some time with my wife I was like wow I worked through the new year I didn't know it was new Wow, that is a that is out of scene that was fucking weird. That was really really weird You know what I I couldn't you know less than the hardest part is if you're staying up all night And I can't remember you know like a Thursday or whatever you're doing it and having a good work Yep, the next day. Yep. That must have been you know

It was a worst morning floor manager started 7 a.m. Yeah, that must have been the worst Actually Thursday was actually harder because Thursday we knew we were going into it Yeah, it was hard thing to walk into for sure. Yeah Yep, but it was fun. It was I mean it was enjoyable It's the re but it is the reason why redversa blue comes on a Monday now Yeah, it doesn't come out on Friday anymore. That is the reason is because Having the weekend to work on something is opposed to knowing I have to stay up all night Thursday night, which doesn't make really any difference now because we do this full time. But back when we had day jobs, it was a lot

harder. Yeah. It was like a different life back then. A long time ago. It really was. Man. And all the podcast you did back then, never got aired. We should put those up.

Director's commentaries. I remember we're in that phase now. We were talking about just taking control of the project. We were talking about that today. Do you remember we had the first DVD done for Red vs Blue, season one. And it was complete and we were ready to ship it on. We were sitting in your office staring at a FedEx envelope. Yeah. And I said to Jeff, I said, we essentially had

play movie chapter selections. And then what else? The PSA? PSA's. And on it, which we had already made. And I said, I think our DVD should have more stuff on it than just the show. Like it should have more extra features. Because it's only got three menu options. And we had already been busted our asses. And we're pretty fucking exhausted and ready to be done at that point. This is our first DVD we'd ever made so we were learning how to make a DVD while we did it.

And we just sat there and looked each other for about 10 or 15 minutes. And I just took it out of the package and said, yeah, we're gonna take it back and put some more stuff on it. Let me took an extra week and put deleted scenes on it and all that. And I'm really glad to this day. I'm really glad we did that.

I can ask you a question. What DVD has the most? That was a fucking yesterday on it. Oh, I tried to say, I mean, maybe see, we tried to trump each one reconstruction was a little different. No, here's a question, right? What season five? I would say four or five.

Three. Probably. Do you think that there, do you think there's a person out there that has seen or unlocked every single aspect? Yes, absolutely. Really? Yeah. There's websites.

So you used to be websites devoted to them. And if you don't can't find them, you can put them in your computer and play them like in Windows Media Player, and it'll show them all the separate titles and chapters. Yeah. This is actually something I would like to get some feedback on. And I was going to talk to the audience to decide about it. I understand what Joel is saying here, though. I think our DVDs are too complex.

Sure. Not that they're hard to navigate or anything, but we put all these motion menus on and we have outtakes and deleted scenes and Easter eggs and mini series and all that goes on the DVD. And you know, the cool transitions we have from the different menus, not on the main ones, but on the ones you go to to see like outtakes and things. They're awesome.

Like that bonus disc is awesome. And I put in other discs and it's just play movie. Well, I think the difference with us is we're trying to offer our audience a different experience than they're getting online watching our show, right? Yeah, I get that. I mean, they're very generous to buy the DVD. We want to give them as much additional material as we can, right? But here's what I'm thinking. And I think our DVDs are head and shoulders above every other DVD. I'm talking DVDs that come from major studios. Absolutely. I think our DVDs are better than those DVDs.

Yes, hands it out. But I wonder if that's a good return for us. Not in a business sense. I'm talking on a creative sense. I wonder if the audience. If the audience knew they were like maybe sacrificing more in a major narrative or they were sacrificing more in the story or getting more story. Well, I won't say that because we don't sacrifice our story because the DVDs are made after the story, but let's say this, let's say the week or two that we were making

the DVD, if we spent that week or two making a couple extra episodes of Red Versus Blue to put on the web, I think they would like that better, but it's just but that's the thing. You always want to you always want to make a better product for the people who are buying it, right? Sure. Yeah, it's like we're getting in and out where people think that the shorts are gone and they're boycotting or they're not boycotting They're protesting in my comments and they're all funny. You know, they're signing this petition and making fun of it And say you got to bring the shorts back and it's like it's just like anything else It's like a field boat if people buy the DVDs. We know that's a thing we'll dedicate more stuff to you right? Yeah If we made a short DVD and people bought it we'd have more shorts

Yeah, right. That's how we're exposed. Well, you know, we'll probably make more anyway But we know what people like based on what they support. No, we won't make more on this No, I mean it's true. No, it's true. I mean if people stop buying our stuff then we disappear Well, it's the assumption if they're not buying it, they don't like it. I mean, that's real simple. It's not that we sit down with metrics and say, well, this product is performing better than these products. We just assume like, wow, people seem to like it, but no one really wants to pay the money.

Yeah, nobody likes it likes it. Yeah, nobody likes it likes it. That's exactly right, guys. Nobody likes it likes it. So, that's interesting. This portion of the product podcast brought to you by the Rishi T shorts DVD. We were, we should just call it, we were paid to blog that.

But we do receive funds for talking about the Rifty T-Shorts DVD. Just so you know. Is there anything else we should talk about before we get back to work making those DVDs? Go, go, do, do. No, but I would like to hear people's feedback on that. Do you, you know, do you, do you guys appreciate the DVDs? Do you like that they're so complex or is it,

or have you ever, have you never bought a DVD and you just had no idea That there was so much extra content on it like I wonder do if we even do a good job You know explaining how much extra stuff we put that you just can't get online. Yeah, I wonder too Well, I guess people should leave comments in the group. Yeah, that'd be cool in the drunk tanker The wristy dot com slash drunk tank and you can see the group news and leave comments about it there. Yes, I set up the vanity URL. I've talked about it on the podcast. You can visit the drunk tank group by going to roostheath.com slash drunk tank.

Very cool. I look at drunk tank.com. Yeah, I looked it up before. I emailed the dude who owns it asking to buy it and he never replied. What's there? It's a coming soon page. Yeah. Who knows how long that's been there. Aren't they all? All right. Well, thanks for listening, everybody.

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