Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #34

Episode Date: November 5, 2009

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It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie comes the new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-oxane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnett, and Thomas Hayden Church.

Twisted metal, streaming now, only on Peacock. Drunk tank, drunk tank, drunk tank, drunk tank, drunk tank, drunk tank, drunk tank, here is a thing. Man, I was about to say something really nice about that. And then, now I can't. That was awesome. I was going to talk about how it sounded like that lame-jone bias shit my parents listen to in all the game. But I can't say anything nice now. Sorry, sir. Well, I thought it was awesome. That was awesome. I was gonna talk about how it sounded like that lame Joan by a ship my parents listen to in all the game But I can't say anything nice now. Sorry sir. I thought it was awesome. That was fantastic I think that should be our permanent theme song. That's one of our best entries ever

Yeah, it's pretty sure that's not a reliant case on who said that? Who said that in soon to be banned user? That was Melman That was awesome. It's right. It was Melman That was Melman. That was awesome. If you're right, it was Melman. Melman is now my favorite user. It sounded like, I was thinking it sounded like drunk tank as brought to you by the Cohen Brothers

because it sounded like a theme song that would be in a Cohen Brothers movie. Yeah. And then it ended like a Cohen Brothers movie does. Yeah. It's perfect. Unexpected twist. You didn't see it coming.

It's like, you think it's just like catchy little tune and then it's a comment on someone's sexuality. Right? It was a sexual slur. Was that what it heard? coming. Yeah, it's like you think it's just like catchy little tune and it's a comment on someone's sexuality, right? It was a sexual slur. Was that what I heard? Yes. Yeah. Nice. Nice.

I took it as a compliment. There you go. Yeah, good. Good. I'm glad to hear you weren't offended at all. I loved it. My favorite. Vote from Bernie on that.

Thumbs up. It's the best theme song of the week. There you go. The best theme song of Wednesday. Let's just say theme song of the day of the week. Yes. go. The best theme song of Wednesday. Let's say theme song of the day of the week. Yes. Nice. Hey, um, Jack's here again. Hey, what's up guys? How you doing, Jack? I'm doing well. I'm surprised you came back. Me too. I'm surprised I was invited back. I didn't realize you were into getting beat up and... It's kind of verbally harassed. It's a fetish thing. It's kind of my thing, I guess.

So it's a fetish thing. How are you like getting yelled at? Yeah, absolutely. That's cool. You're into schmo videos. You know what that is? I have no idea what that is. What is that? You look it up online later. Something burning, I know that.

Is that a linked up or is that in SFW? Yeah, I can be a linked up, sure. I want to. It's due to like really buff-women to come over to their house and basically sit on them. Essentials. Yeah. Yeah.

Really? And wrestle with them and beat them up. And yell at them. What is wrong with this world? Don't judge me. And you know what? There's nothing wrong with this world because a dude who likes that can find someone else who likes that. That's what's good about the world now. There's a dude that wakes up in the morning and says, I want a muscular woman to sit on my face and call me fat. And quite possibly might be you this dude. And within two hours he could probably have it going on Thank you for taking America right?

That's Craigslist and get it right. What you want when you want it or he can log on and talk to other dudes who like that stuff. I'm like, hey, let me tell you my story about the best time of a muscular woman or sad on my day. And told me I was no good at scrabble. You're gonna, I'm gonna have to ask you to spell that for me later so I can definitely include that. Yeah, no problem. See, you know, people talk a lot about how the internet is making people more perverse, but I think it's making them less perverse because they have the

ability to kind of exercise their crazy stuff that they're into. No, I don't know. It's more of like a justification. You're like, man, I thought I was fucked up. Do you're about slowing? Jesus Christ. I think I'm not nearly fucked up as fucked up as I thought I was. I don't think it's making the more perverse. It's just making you more perverse in the same location. It's what Azalea is. I think we talked about this at breakfast this morning. Jeff and I went to breakfast this morning.

We had a lovely time. Where'd you go? We went to Cafe 1886. I had the oatmeal with blueberries. I had the breakfast quesadilla. Ooh. Which is healthy. Yeah.

It starts with a cue, isn't that what she said? And anyway, over and, uh, we anyway overbrecht was we were talking about how the world seems more dangerous now, but that it's actually been just as bad as it's always been, and we just didn't know about all the stuff that was happening before. Right. It's just you get information instantly and constantly from everywhere. That was going back to a cone brothers movies That's essentially the theme of no country for old men is that the US or you know the world has always been a very tough place Mm-hmm, and that it's no place for old men It just says you get older you think the world's getting worse, but it's always been bad

You just didn't have any perspective for it. Absolutely. Like you know what was dangerous? Living in the old west where I was about getting scouted by Indians. That was dangerous. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I'm fucking not letting you six you all play in the front West where you're about getting scouted by Indians that was dangerous Yeah, yeah fucking not letting your six-year-old play in the front yard It's not the same thing not quite the same thing and it's you know that thing about not letting your six-year-old play in the front yard I mean that's all in your head. Yeah, all in your head Gosh, you'll like this Fox News is on in my house a lot of reasons. I don't want to write. I do love it So her older Rivera is apparently now a regular commentator on the Bill O'Reilly show. He's like the penultimate example of your people, right?

Harolda Rivera? The penicolo of success. He's a must at. I guess him and Edward James almost. Anyway. He was on there talking about the girl in Florida who is kidnapped and then was subsequently found in Alabama, I believe. Do you know the story at all?

No. Young girl. Was she okay? I think you looked at Jeff when he said Alabama. No, she was not okay. She was not okay. And it was, it was, it made a lot of press because of course it was a young girl.

But then the mother was on the news when the daughter was missing saying, we won't press any charges. We want to get you help. Just turn our daughter back in, give her a burger back to us. And then when the daughter came up dead, the mother went back on the news and said, we're going to find you and we're going to get you help just turn our daughter back in, give her a back to us. And then when the daughter came up dead, the mother went back on the news and said, we're going to find you and we're going to kill you.

Basically, she did a 180. That's awesome. Go figure. But her older Rivera was talking about how you can't just let your, she was picked up, I guess, coming home from school. How old is this kid? This is all from memory.

She's, I think she was about six years old. OK. She a young girl. You know, just a kid. And her older Rivera was saying, I don't understand this at all. He was saying to people in the audience, you can't let your daughters, you can't let your kids go out and wander around by themselves. I was thinking about this and here's the, the rules that I came up with.

It's what I call the precious poodle rule. The precious poodle rule. We have to treat our children like we treat our wonderful purebred dogs that we have. Like you wouldn't let your purebred animal walk around by itself. You wouldn't do that and hope it gets home safely on its own. You have to treat your children like you would treat your precious poodle. And it was like, how out of touch can one guy be? No kidding. And he went on and on and nobody stopped him He said what the fuck are you talking about everyone that was watching agreed about how about you treat your fucking precious dog

Like treat your kid when I was six years old I walk like fucking half a mile to the bus stop and home every day But how do you relate a kid to a pure I mean I mean I did the analogy made no sense to me What's a treat your child like it has zero intelligence. Well, it's a backwards analogy, right? I mean, yeah, if anything, you should be making the reverse argument. Yeah, man, it was a really strange thing. It was truly bizarre to hear him talk about that.

I'll see if I can find a clipboard for the link to. Well, I used to live in Jersey, which is where her older lives, and I've seen his house. That did pretty out of touch. That would bet. I think not finding Capone's treasure sent him over the edge.

He's been loopy ever since then. Yeah, but no that was Al Capone's vaults I remember man that was like prime time TV special like one of the first I guess you could kind of call it almost reality TV in a way Kind of where they had these treasure hunters and They knew the location of Al Capone's vault and they were gonna open them live on TV And they had like the whole hour long special leading up to it talking about the life of Al Capone And speculating about what was in the vault and all the riches that they were gonna find and it was empty right? Yeah, there might have been a few moths in there And it's always like one of those things to where you know, it's a five-minute show

But they've got a two-hour block of network time so all they do is just build up to it and build up to it and then boom Nothing to a giant fart Absolutely nothing did you guys I know you guys did I'm not sure about Jack did you Jack did you see the new avatar trailer? I've seen one on TV is that the one of your franchise earth theatrical trailer? This is the actual trailer I like not three and a half minutes long. Let me guess it's all action packed and trying to make the movie sexy as hell. Nope. Nope. Really? It's all character driven.

Oh wow. 100% awesome. Yeah. Wow, that's fantastic. It takes tremendous trailer. I assumed after the, with a 16 minute sort of, I would say flops because people didn't seem enthuse. Like they seem like they're really, really sad trying to make people like super psych

for the movie and now they'd be like, oh shit, we've got to drive this to the NASCAR fans. No, I mean the Bernie's right. They totally went the character driven route Oh, that's awesome. It looks it looks good. I'll take a look at that I take back everything bad. I said about avatar in previous drunk tanks. I'll agree with that I'd like to point out I've never said anything bad about that movie. I just had questions. I guess more than anything You know, it seems it seems good. We'll see when the movie comes out I think our general consensus last time We talked about it was let's wait and see it's James Cameron. Yeah, you know makes James Cameron movies It's coming out just over a month, right? Yeah, I think the same really team. I think oh wow

Yeah, I'll see if I can find a place to link it from online and And put it on put in the link dump, but it was it was really good. I like that trailer so much I turned it off so because I didn't want to see any more of a movie that I knew I was now going to see It's out of a good trailer. Yeah, what's the best trailer you've ever seen Wow I would say there was these little commercials that were for episode one and there was one for Qui-Gon Jin Talking to Jake Lloyd I remember though was really cool. I thought and it was yeah They were way better than anything else they put out for episode one. I go so am I was a watch that one 30 second spot

About 30 times. I think the trailer for the final Lord of the Rings movie was awesome. That was pretty I must watch it Yeah, that was a perfect trailer. Yeah, you know, it was a good trailer which the movie is horrible Pearl Harbor Pearl Harbor had a great trailer. That movie was so bad. I don't know if I remember the trailer. I think the best the best trailer to worst movie probably has to go to Charlie's Angels 2. Oh awesome trailer. Did your name in all my trailer? That trailer was fantastic. That's something you know that trailer is incredible. That's where they like dive after the helicopter. Yeah. All that stuff's over in the first two minutes of the movie.

They go down the barrel of the tank and yeah, they drive a truck off a bridge get out of a damn Yeah, they get out of the truck get to the bait the bed of the truck unravel a black hawk helicopter And then get in the helicopter and fly away in midair. It's awesome. Really awesome. That should have been a two minute movie. And you know, I honestly don't know why more people don't make trailers that aren't directly just edits from the movie. Like why not just do an additional scene? I love doing that in Rivers Blue where our trailers are just an episode that's not part

of the continuous story. I guess it depends on quality, right? Because Spider-Man did that. The first Spider-Man trailer was that crappy trailer where Spider-Man, the bank robbery, or Spider-Man web the two dudes between, that was the twin towers. The twin towers.

They pulled it. They released that about a month before the twin towers. And we were all like, it was retarded. Yeah, look at the little stupid. We did laugh at that one, everyone. Well, it was the helicopter and caught in the web. Yeah, it was literally like spider web. Yeah, the giant spider web between the World Trade Center towers.

Well, you'd like the the principal trailer that just came out. Well, here's my problem. Okay. I thought the movie looked like it had good special effects and a good budget and it would be fun to watch kind of in a like the mummy kind of way. But I can't get over the fact that Jay Gillin Hall looks like a douche Yeah, every time he's on screen you're like oh, and then you see a close match And you're like oh and then Jay Gillin Hall like pushes his hair back and you go oh It's it's gonna be interesting to see

Just see what that movie comes out when it's like yeah, I know I'll probably see it though Just just cuz this because the budget, well, is that the biggest budgeted movie based on a video game? No, I don't know. What's the budget? I'm just a Tomb Raider, would. Yeah, I guess Tomb Raider's up there.

Would be the nearest contender, or maybe one of the resident evil, but those seem to be dropping in budget, not going out. Or maybe we can make money. Maybe X versus Sever. Yeah, I think they're still making money, but I think they're making, I think they're making them for less and less money. So we're talking about just a budget, right? Let me see if I can find some numbers for you on Tomb Raider. Yeah, we shade it

The definitely seems like the Resident Evil movies very quickly fell off a plateau It seems like they spent all their money on the first movie. Yeah, but number four is coming out now They say really yeah, they're still making those I'm making another one. I don't really love it. She's involved. I don't think I saw extinction Extinction was the last one. I saw it. It was the one in the desert. Yeah, it was desert. How was it? It's horrible. Really? It was horrible. Well, Meela, Meela Jovich married the director of those, right? I don't know. Did she? She, uh, Paul W. S. Anderson, not Paul Thomas Anderson, but the other Paul Anderson. Wasn't she also married to the French dude? Lupus on. Yeah, she was married to him. Wasn't she? I don't think so. Hey, baby. I'm not gonna say no They don't make me think about Natalie Portman. She made a nice apartment, didn't she? It's like some kind of nerd dream right to a director movie and then Mary's your leading actress. This was Kate Begginsdale, did right? Yeah, she made the director of underworld lots of people do that. What's her face from fucking channel is but did that too right?

And I know I make out with Joel all the time the production budget of Lara Croft Tomb Raider the cradle of life Which was a sequel was 95 million dollars to that movie that movie didn't make it's money back It made a hundred and fifty six million worldwide. Okay, so by the main only 64 million domestically Yeah, so that would probably be what break even yeah, no depends on what they sold overseas rights for yeah I guess I'm sure it did okay and DVD sales and rentals I think foreign throws all itself on yeah I'm sure they made their money back. Yeah, I'm sure they're okay. Plus you got to hang out with Angelina Jolie I Yeah, I'd burn it for no one dollars to that. No, you're only burning 30 million really

Well the big deal where the big deal about the first one was it was the movie the John Void and Angelina Jolie together for the first time right or maybe not Last time. Yeah, everybody's been waiting on that Does go to the show. Angelina Joy Lee is probably the number one starlet in America. And you really can't name what her big hit is. Yeah, I can. Mr. Missy. Yeah, now, but that's her only really what she was already the number one star.

When she made that movie that is her only big success. That might be the only hundred. The initial Tomb Raider movie I think made a lot of money, didn't it? Yeah, but she's basically got two Tomb Raiders and that wants it in there. Yeah, I wanted just came out how much it wanted make I don't know Got on a 60 seconds that okay, too. Yeah, that the right way. I wouldn't say she had she had like hey hackers did really yeah hackers What she's known for what she broke out? No, probably Gea, but she should be known for girl interrupted when she was a supporting character. Yeah Just no production budget. She won't offer for that

No production budget numbers available for principalers that I can find. I'm sure they're out here I just can find them right Angelina Jolie won an Oscar for that for a girl in erupted. She did She won Made out with her brother on stage and all that Pretty hot that's what we call that Alabama hot May and I with your brother Nice So I saw an ad last night speaking of ads and trailers, which is basically ads for movies, right? I'm not. Man, I'm with your brother on stage. Nice. So I saw an ad last night, speaking of ads and trailers, which is basically ads for movies,

right? Old Spice has this ad. It's, I'm a man. I like different scents. It's, you don't have to link them to this thing, but it's incredible. And to this day, Old Spice is the only company that I've actively purchased their items based on their advertising. Didn't Old Spice do the one where the guy was singing the song while he was sliding

in the home plate? I think so. Is that an Old Spice one? And they do the Bruce Camel commercials where he's singing Hungry like the Wolf. The advertising on Old Spice is fantastic. And that's like have you ever purchased a product based solely on advertising? That's a good question. I was probably, yeah. Yeah. I'm sure I have. Yeah. Like whoever does those commercials, I applaud you. I'm sure they're listening. I can't think. I bought fours a two because I liked the fours a two commercial. Yeah. I thought that. Yeah. I thought it was really good.

I pre-ordered left for dead two from GameStop because I like the commercial. That was a fantastic commercial. I might be biased though. You know, I don't know if you read this, but a couple of weeks ago, the community manager for Infinity Ward had some statements about advertising for video games, talking about how video game companies and developers should be taking their marketing back in-house and not contracting out to third-party marketing agencies. That's a horrible idea. They were talking about how they know their game better than anyone else and they could do a better job marketing it. Next up on us. It's really unnecessary to to farm out work like this to an outside agency. Well okay. Making a commercial is one thing. There's a whole other part of

advertising which is the media buying which that's really the major part of the contract that you're doing. I'm sure the video game guys could make their own trailers. Well here's the follow-up to that. I'm sure the video game guys could make their own trailers. Well, great job. Here's the follow up to that. I don't know if you heard about this either. But aren't they getting in trouble? Yes, they released like their own viral video for promoting modern warfare too.

OK, well, can I say one thing real quick? We're a week away from the release. And I don't want spoilers about what's going to happen in modern warfare too. I have managed to avoid it. No, no, this is a spoiler. Which is horrible, because a huge thing just hit and I can't talk about.

Well, I'll get out of here. No, no, no, no, you want to guess Jack maybe someone will figure it out anyway the baseball player thing? Yes, they really say a viral PSA that they called it fight against grenade spam And it's just like talking about people who throw grenades excessively in color duty Well the fight against grenades spam initial spell out fags They kept insinuating that people who throw lots of grenades are fags and they got into a ton of trouble as a result of it Yeah, this is what happens keep it in house Yeah, when you do it in house and you don't you know go to someone who's who maybe has a little bit more experience Standards and practices right yeah, yep, I haven't seen the video. I've only read the stories about it

Because they pulled it down but apparently the I guess some picture for the fillies was like the voice over for it Yeah, you got your heart call harness. I don't know who that is. Call him all right. Call him. The Phillies can afford trouble right now. That being said though, the game's not just announced. That's the most preordered game in the history of the company. And in that guy's defense in Philadelphia,

Fag is filled with a pH. There's no way he could have known. Yeah. But anyway, I thought it was it was it was interesting timing that they they badmouth outside agencies and immediately dropped the ball on their next project. But let's be honest, it's not going to get anything pulled from shelves. No one's going to find you. There's no governing body. It's going to find you for viral marketing standards and practices. So the fact that people are talking about this acronym makes it work. It's working. Yeah,

but no one's seeing it. They pulled the video because videos, you can pull them from the internet and they'll never exist again. Exactly right. Al, that's now it's Clark about that. The, the, the thing about modern warfare too is it seems like why spend any more time marketing that. You know, I mean it's just, it's gonna sell, but Julian's a copy. Everyone who's gonna buy that game should already know about it, right? Like does not someone who's like a huge color duty forefell in Modern Warfare is like, what, they're making a sequel? But it does two years ago.

It does make me worried that Infinity Warfare, they're doing this kind of thing, is it's gonna take the place of Gamecock or Midway. There's been a void left of shitty marketing from those companies and somebody has to fill that gap. Hopefully it's not Infinity Ward. Hopefully nobody does. God. Because you got to admit the prestige addition of Modern War for Two where they give you the- Ridiculous. The what are the night vision goggles?

Yeah. Yeah, that's- How is that not put a bigger deal? I you know Fox News would have been on that been like Oh, they're teaching kids they're running out at night. They're not functioning in vg's are they yeah, they are they're fully working night vision Really they sell toys they sell kids toys now that are night mission Why did I just pre-order the normal version then goddamn it? What are they they're not does you know the toy out toy? I'm just I'm not here's an honest question because I'm curious. When I think of game companies making their own viral marketing,

I think of GameCock and I want to shoot myself. I think of that fucking serious Sam video they did that just came out that was really unwatchable. It was like seven minutes long and I think it's shit like that infinity word. What's an example of a developer that's actually made good viral marketing? Well, I'll say a company that does good marketing of their own materials might be blizzard when they release their own in-house cinematics and things like that to promote their own shares.

Bungie does too. Bungie makes those vid docs, which are awesome. The Vidox, Bungie Vidox are good. You'll see, Video. I don't think you can confirm that. Does Bungie actually make the Vidox? Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course. Jim McCollum makes those. Really? Yeah.

Okay. And they release those. And then probably another great example is Valve's meet the blank series. Yep from team fortress two people love those are great. Yeah, I really liked the The meet the blank series that valve did so yeah, I guess there are a few a few game companies to do it do it well It's cool because the the in the meat the sniper one Elements from the viral piece then have made it back into the game. Like the jar of urine is now in the game. See, that's another problem too, is that video game companies tend to do things that maybe

aren't broad enough. Do you really want, I'm playing Fable 2 right now, and a big part of Fable 2 is farting for people's amusement. The last thing I want to see is Lion had making a viral piece about non-stop farting. Right. You know, the tall farts are something. Yeah.

There's a lot in a game and maybe it's better for someone who's not directly related with the development of that game to take a look at it and say, here's what we should focus on. Right. Because developers have so much they can focus on. Maybe when the Natal version of Fable comes out, if they'll have an infrared camera and it can sense when you fart and your character will fart on screen. At the same time.

We can hope. Yeah. I think that's been done, right? Real-time fart technology. You'll see your F. Farting-Farting-Farting. Methane detector. It's a new F.P.F. genre.

Oh, man. Oh, man. So before we get too far away from movies, can I talk about something real quick? Yeah, please do. Jack, do you follow Tim Alamo on Twitter? I do. There was a really cool thing that happened this week where he posted Tim League is the guy who owns and runs the Alamo theater here in Austin. We've mentioned them many times. He's an enemy new highball. Yeah, he started the draft house and owns the original Alamo.

Four of them. Right. Three of them right three of them three of them Which is one less than what I said and in case you're wondering too There's also a left for dead two mod now that that somebody made very cool. Yeah, very cool It's like you look up left for dead to Alamo and it shows one of the Alamo theaters That's actually one that's the one in Austin. He doesn't own. Yeah, yeah Of course, it's one of the franchise ones, but anyway, it's a very cool guy and they do all these fun little bumpers before the movie because you kind of have to show up 40 minutes before an Alamo. That's the one drag to the Alamo draft has is you got to show up early. Yeah, you can drink beer. Yeah, you got to show up early and drink and they make it entertaining by giving you what stuff

like you're about to talk about. I have a feeling. Yeah, like I do these little bumpers and cool stuff like that and you know like they had former governor and Richards and they don't talk in the movie theater. That was a good one. Where she comes and then beats the hell out of a guy and throws him out of the theater. And it's just really cool stuff like that. Well, he posted about his experience. One of their big things is no talking. Uh-huh. He put up a little flag at the animal you order by putting up these little pieces of paper.

You can also use those pieces of paper to tell your waiter these guys right here are making noise in front of me. You can tell them to be quiet so that you don't have to go, hey, shut up, asshole. And they have a no talking rule. If you get corrected once, that's it. And if you get corrected again, you're just tossed out of the theater. Yeah, without a refund.

Without a refund. And they put that all over the beginning of the movie. And it works because I know a girl that works there and is worth her for a long time. And she's seen one person get kicked out. Yeah. Any entire time she's worked there. And so this guy got shushed.

Tim was at his own theater watching a movie and put up a flag saying these guys are talking, won't stop talking. So he finally said, I'm gonna write down and put it in and the waiter shoestem. And the guy apparently went completely silent but into like a rage silence. Nice. I like those. And he waited the rest of the movie. Then came out and started screaming at the wait staff.

And they said, well, this was the owner of the theater. So you can't really go over his head because the owner of the theater then came out and started screaming at the wait staff and they said well this was the owner of the theater so you can't really go over his because the owner of the theater was in your movie and he's the guy who raised the flag on you and then he tracked Tim down in the parking lot as Tim was pulling away and started like beating on his windshield and spinning on his car and Tim said you know whoever this guy is yeah you said you'll never come to my theater again good don't come't come back. What a fucking dickhead. I hope he leaves Austin. Yeah, I hope he got I don't know I hope he got hit by a fucking car on the We do you lose your Alamo draft house privilege. What else is there for you in Austin? Like he can go to the whole food. So I guess that's about it

Every once in a while go to the educational I'm acts, but I just love that there's a theater owner So get get the fuck out absolutely. I don't want your business. That's great. Why would you want that business? What a fucking dickhead. I think that's up seriously, man. And that's why we love him. That guy spits on our podcast. And it was nothing but positive feedback from everybody on Twitter that I saw.

Oh, sure. Yeah, of course. Everyone hates that. Why is it that everyone hates the person who talks during the movie, but people still fucking talk during the movie? No one likes that. Everyone knows it through.

I don't know. Who are these people? No, actually, I can vouch for another theater that I was when I was living in L.A. I went to the Arc Light and there was a guy sitting next to me in one of the movies I was seeing and they're very very like intense about no talking, no texting during the movie. They come out before like someone will come out before the movie introduces it, say please shut off your cell phones, no talking whatever. And this guy next to me busted open a cell phone and started texting and I was you know I was having that quiet rage deal and then we had someone from the theater came up and

asked him to stop. It was incredible. I was like sitting there like, oh my god, that's freaking great. Yeah, I love the archive. They're really good about that. But and Jeff and I actually the first time we went to the Archlight, Jeff and I went and saw episode three there with a friend of ours. On opening day, it was on opening day, we were out there for E3, I think, and we took a break and went over to go see Star Wars with a friend of ours named Kent. And Kent's a big guy. He's real like real tall, real big. Anyway, he's a guy who makes Ask a Ninja. Yeah, it's Kent Nichols. And we were all sitting down at the theater and there's a pretty packed house and like this family came in and sat in front of us and said, you know, mother or father and like there's three, maybe

whatever, the three sons, let's say. And they were all probably, what, 10 years old? Yeah, like, teen tween age somewhere on there. And the movie starts, you know, like you said, the guy comes out, asked everyone to be quiet or not your phones. Movie starts, you know, beautiful, you know, digital projection, first time I ever seen a digital projection. And the three 10 year old boys just start talking to each other, non-stop during the movie. And then, I was getting pretty upset about it,

like they wouldn't shut the fuck up and they're sitting right in front of us and Kent leans over under the chairs and they're sitting right in front of us and Kent Leans over under the chairs and like puts his head right between all of them and goes hey, you know how you all are talking That's totally awesome keep it up Kit big hairy fucking six foot four. I don't think six six six six big dude I don't think they exhaled the rest of the movie Like like statues just staring at the screen This kids probably still have nightmares about the yeti that chushed up

They might receive a therapist What in their in their defense how often you get to see a star wars movie with Chubaka This kids will never go to the woods again It was pretty awesome. But I just, I can say I really appreciate that. There was somebody who posted a, from another podcast, he posted about going to us greeting a press screening and they opened it to the public to get more reactions and how all the press walked out because they could not watch a free movie with the general public They were just people walking in and out of theater walking up and down the aisles yelling at the screen and that's funny

He talked about the guy talked about the phenomenon of the Say what I see guy who sat next to him and everything he saw on screen. He just said there's like oh there's a boat Oh, there's the guys the guys coming after him. He's got a gun. I think we've all been around somebody like that. That's incredible. That's fucking great. You know, every time we hang out with Kent,

or we have in the past, and we haven't hung out for them in a while, something interesting happens. Jim remember when we all went after that steak dinner in LA? He wanted to take us to some old school steak restaurant that was supposed to be a rat-packed kind of steak steak restaurant and we get about a block from it and there's helicopters we couldn't park because the street was close for some reason it was a fucking drive by shooting in the parking lot of this restaurant we had to

go around the cops to get in we had to walk under the crime scene tape and they're like who are you like we're just gonna eat. Like, okay, go ahead. Yeah, what happened? Yeah, it's okay. I forgot about that. I have no idea where that was in LA. That's like before I reached out. I remember where it was in the fucking ghetto. It was a crinsha. It was before I had my vague handle on LA geography.

We were almost late to a network meeting this last trip out to LA because of a high speed chase. Oh really? Yeah, we got stuck behind a quarter and quarter high speed, you know, on the freeway when they all go slow and they just won't pull the guy over because he's not being dangerous, but we were backed up from miles on the freeway following this chase. And we were close enough to see the cop cars blocking us off. Like really were probably 20 or 30 cars back in line. Wow. It's all the wall of police cars. So it was cool, but really inconvenient. Yeah, it sucks.

It's like part of the real LA experience though. Yeah, if you're not familiar, that happens all the time in LA. Yeah, I never got to experience that. That was that in earthquake. I never got to be in an earthquake. And I was, I'm honestly kind of disappointed I wasn't in an earthquake. Yeah, I think we changed it like a sport in LA. Well, they covered it now nationwide, I've seen.

Like every now and then, if you're watching daytime news, or like one of the 24 hour channels, we'll throw on live feed. Oh, there's a chase in LA. Only the good ones, though. The ones that come up from the farm league. We've had a lot of high-speed chases in Austin recently, even noticed that, guys.

Yeah, there was, there's about two that ended right in our neighborhood. Yeah, we like in the past couple months somebody hit a Homeless guy in a wheelchair. I saw that dude like 15 minutes before the before he got killed. That was fucking. Why didn't you tell him? I should have warned him That wasn't his normal corner either normally. So I'm on airport. I don't know what he was doing down and You were late. You had to go to your you haul storage facility and get your box so That's why is that the most obscure reference of all time, by the way? Possibly. Possibly.

It's a primer reference. We've probably talked about primer on the podcast. Yeah, we have. I guarantee nobody's seen it. Probably not. Did you see the XKCD comic that came out this week? Yeah. Speaking of primer, it's incredible.

It's a timeline. It's Lord of the Rings, it's Star Wars. It's incredible. No, it's a Star Ring, it's Star Wars. It's incredible. No, it's as Lord the Ring is a Star Wars and it's primer and it's a visual like a visual timeline of characters where they are in location to each other. It's like the guy must have spent hours and hours and hours working on this thing. Like I can't do justice explaining it just you'll have to see it but it's it's awesome. Gus you shaking your head could you do anything like that? I wouldn't

waste my time. No, but you can, okay, like Bernie's got to know. Oh, the punchline's funny though. If you'll see it, the punchline is like this one, it's primer. Yeah, no. Yeah. You know, side-eyed in happiness did actually a very funny time-traveling comic where I'll have to link it, but the guy goes from one panel into the next.

Like walks through the wall into it, and like drops down to the floor to the lower panels. And it's very seamless the way they did it. I thought it was very funny. So let's talk about more comic strips in the podcast. Did you hear Bernie that SAG rejected the video game voiceover deal they had? SAG rejected it. Yeah. After accepted it though. So the video game industry made an offer Saga rejected their offer. Yep. Yeah, I wouldn't even know what that would entail But I just know the video game the voice actors don't get paid a lot Yeah, and that's what I guess sag was upset about because I guess there's like they call it an atmospheric provision and it would allow Video game makers to use an actor and 20 voice roles up to 300 words each at a daily

base rate of $782. Okay, is that good or bad? Well, 300 words each is absolutely nothing in a video game. Yeah, that's for 20 voices though. For 20 voices, what does that mean? They could be 20 voice roles. They could be 20 different characters at 300 words each. It doesn't matter, man.

If like, let's take for example, I don't know, somebody in a multiplayer game, like an ODST. What are the ODST's? In ODST or one of the survivors in Leifer Dead. If you were to go through the sound library of just all the stuff they do, there's probably 200... and stuff like that.

I mean, there's tens of thousands of lines sometimes that one voice actor can do. Yeah, but I'm sure this is more intended not towards main characters, which obviously will have a ton of a ton of lines, but you know, maybe more ancillary character. Okay. All right. So that's probably why they called the atmospheric provision, because it's more like a background atmosphere character. Did this start with the Nico dude? The guy who did Nico and Greta thought of four? No, I'm sure it didn't. I'm sure. I know what did he bring a lot of light to it. I don't know. Let's see a question. Well, I think, I think, yeah, I think you know, Grand Theft Auto being such a huge hit and generating so much money in a short period of

time, it does become clear like, wow, you know, the people that you associate with the actual production. But you got to say, I mean, Tom Cruise gets paid $20 million because people you put Tom Cruise on a poster, people will go see the movie. And Tom Hanks, people did not buy Grand Theft Auto because this guy was doing the voice of Nico. I'll go even further. His claim was that he popularized the character of Nico and Nico was successful because of him. What's that guy's name? Also, Nico? Ben, one DLC has... Yeah, he's been in every... He's been in every...

He makes cameos. But that could have been pre... Like stuff they recorded a lot. It was pre-recorded. He doesn't speak in the... He only uses words from like previous audio sessions. Yeah. Like I just saw him...

I just ran into a pretty big scene in Gay Tony with him and he doesn't say a word. But he's on screen for like two minutes. And we know that they shuffle people in and out of the Mario voice acting parts. And you know, people don't seem to mind, you know, as much. Oh, notice really. Yeah. Is it Mario?

Yeah, well, not Mario, it's himself. But, you know, we know people, the woman who plays Cortana has played Princess Peach, has played Toad. She played Zoe and left for dead. Yeah. I mean, these are major characters in major franchises. I mean, this was an actress in these were movies we were naming You know her name is Jen Taylor, you know, she'd be one of the

Regis actor actresses in America. I don't think she's Princess Peach anymore though, right? She was saying they move people in and out of of those characters in the Mario and well the guy plays Mario It's one of the few voice actors who gets recognized as oh, you're the voice of Mario I see him in like E3 and packs he was I think he was a packs he did a game set managers appearance one year and I think it's like he always has a rep around him for what he can say in the Mario voice and what he can't sure I think he can't go around asking for mushrooms. I think that voice actors probably need to make more money for video games though. I really do.

I don't think they I don't think we need to get to the point where the developers carry the burden of the video game. Right. You know, publishers add a lot, distributors add a lot, voice actors add a lot, but the developers, they need to be making the line share the money. And those that I would say that torch needs to be carried first for those guys, because there's a lot of people who put in a lot of hours on these games. And their efforts go unsung and their voices are unheard, so they need to's a lot of people who put in a lot of hours on these games and their efforts go unsung and their

The voices are unheard so they need to make a lot more money. Well, yeah, you've got you've got a hundred to 150 people putting three years of their lives into a video game and then Voice actor or voice actors comes in and does two days of work. I guess yet true Yeah, I mean you could look at it that way, but a lot of actors you that are movies too, you know what I mean? Sure, but at the same sense there's a lot of money now being made more money being made There's I there's also the costs are also escalating. Yeah, I mean you can talk about animated films too like Like what's the Christmas the Christmas story? What's the new one the Ebony is a scrooge Christmas Carol Christmas Carol Yeah, I mean that's Jim Carey and they're they're pushing that as a Jim Carerey movie and it's like do you think a video game will ever get to that point? You mean a video game or a video game celebrity? Well I mean either way like this is like say this is the Jim Carrey video game like he is you know yeah it's already happens brutal

legend. How often do you see brutal legend mentioned without Jack Black? Well can you can you get any promotional material? Eddie Riggs ad is all about just Eddie Riggs the characters and say it doesn't Jack black at all. That's one you guys are close to him. I am I don't see a lot of Jack black stuff with Ruby on I do every marketing I've seen has Jack black that's stupid cause yeah, I feel like he's in motion that I like it but yeah, and even even like when I saw Tim Schaefer on Jimmy

Fowon did the majority of what they talked about was about Jack black and how they got Jack black to be in the game. And how they made the game, his whole idea was to make a game that Jack Black would like. And then he showed it to Jack Black and Jack Black was like, I want to be in this game. And he was like, I can't believe this is happening. Jack Black is going to be in the game. I bet if you went back and counted, his Jack Black's name was mentioned 40 times. You know, in this last couple of sentences, you said? Yeah.

Yeah, which is a paraphrase of that interview. Yeah. Well, I mean, but like, but still Jack Black versus like, what if, you know, Tom Hanks came out and this is like the first Tom Hanks video game, like he was a starring role and something like Uncharted, like if they didn't chart it three and it was clearly like like a recognizable face. Do you think, do you think that will happen in the next two years? I'm saying it's already happening. It happened there. It happened with ODST, Nathan Phillian, the main character. I think Jack's taking it a little further.

It's like, you know, Tom Hanks presents or, you know, Uncharted 3 starring Tom Hanks. Yeah. Or something where their name is actually on the fucking cover. You know, it's like, or like part of the title. Jesse, he thinks it's already had. I think we're disagreeing. Well, I think we're there.

You're arguing Verbage on the cover of a game, but I think we're disagreeing. Well, I think we're there you might you're arguing verbiage on a cover of a game But I think we're already there. I don't think people know I I don't think you people know the game brutal legend without Jack Black I do I do but it obviously we just disagree you know, I know brutal legend because we were talking about it But I get the point I mean thinking now like arguing against myself. They they had stranglehold Which was John Wu present stranglehold sure? Yeah, that game didn do too hot, but still, I guess 50 cent presents blood on the sand. That's true. Well, who's the dude who makes metal yourself that everybody goes, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, God, brother. I've always felt that I've always felt that way about the video game industry. I love the products. I don't really associate even I just recently became aware of studios that I'm really surprised when I hear younger people talking about video game studios that they know studios apart as opposed to

just franchises and consoles. That's all I knew is that good or bad. I think it's good. I think you know if people are really into it it shows that they are researching it or at least there's a sophistication on the part of the consumer, where they can tell things apart. I mean, it's like, you know, Pixar, you know, everyone knows Pixar's always going to put out quality. You could say, you'd argue like, Valve is similar like that. Like the new Valve game comes out. People are going to go, oh, you know, I'll check it out just because it's Valve. We're not objective, though, Jack. I bet I can pull aside people on the street, and they wouldn't be able to tell me if Shereck was a Pixar

movie or something. Oh, absolutely. definitely not. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably it's probably a good comparison It's people being able to tell movie studios apart. All right, let me ask you this because we've been exposed to different things Would you rather what do you think would be harder? working on a Television show just week to week Working on a movie in the last two months before the movie comes out or working on a video game in the last Three months before the video game comes out harder Video game video game crunch time is

mortifying to watch sometimes what goes on in that industry where people are just around the clock Just slamming it and working non-stop and sometimes we show up often during that process because we come along to do it. And they love seeing us. Yeah. To do much hit him a stuff or to do working on an ad campaign or something like that. And it's always yikes. It's just a lot of dark circles under eyes and vacant stairs and the cots and people's cubicles.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So that's crazy. So I had to agree with you guys I would probably least likely at least like to work on a video game during crunch. It looks like a refugee camp typically It can yeah, it's like God what natural disaster are these people running away from it? It's always great to talk like the conceptual artists too and the writers who have been done essentially You know, they really don't have much to add at the last minute. Yeah, there's like riding, we're thinking about the next project.

I'm like, this is, you know, this is easy. I sure hate crunch, right? Ooh, so much work. There must be, there must be feeling that they have to be there, you know. They've got a state of 630 and then go home. They can get a manic and dress it up and make it look like them, put it in their office and sneak out the windows, like Ferris wheelers day off. You open the door and it wade. And there's like in the hallway,

there's like that hallway in Battlestar Galactica with all the pictures. And it's the people's families. I haven't seen, you know, for six weeks. And they just all walk by and touch the wall. I remember them. So sad. Did you hear about the problems that World of Warcraft is having in China?

They've been having those problems for a while, right? Yeah, but it's they're not It's not getting any better. It's like they were talking about how they were gonna start up again next month and nope trying to shut them down Do you know how many subscribers for a while were from China? It was a lot right? It was like over 50% of their subscribers. I think so, right? Yeah, it was like six million people. Because wow has like 11 million subscribers or 11 and a half, but only two or so are from America. Really?

It's hard, I think it's like three or four million, but still, it's a small percentage of their overall population. Wow, that's a stat, I had no idea that. Yeah. And I guess the Chinese government is really, you know, hardlining them. And they may not start back up. They may be gone forever.

I don't know what you're talking about, actually. China shut down World of Warcraft? Right. Because Blizzard doesn't run World of Warcraft in China. They have to outsource it to a Chinese company to run it. And this past spring... Why? Why is that?

It's like some Chinese law. Jesus Christ. Why don't we have laws like that? So, they... Like, this company was running it. The company was called the nine and I guess Blizzard was unhappy with their performance. So they terminated their contract and had awarded the contract to another company called NetEase. Chinese government had to approve it. They delayed, took a long time. They finally started looking like they were going to approve it and then they decided they weren't going to approve it

and now it's just look it looks looks like it's not gonna happen. The Chinese government has said that they have committed quote, gross violations of Chinese law. And that they need to stop charging players for the game and stop accepting a new registrations. And that's it. Yeah. Wow.

That's really interesting. I bet the nine's performance is looking pretty okay to them at this point. Yeah, I think the 9 is going to launch a competing MMO now. Really? Yeah, I think I saw that. I'll have to double check that. I don't know that first certain, but I'm pretty sure that's true. I bet it's going to be exactly the same with like 10% different assets.

As it stands, World of Warcraft is already modified for the Chinese government to be playable in China. Like all the skeletons, like the undead, for example, undead cannot have bone showing. So like all the undead characters have to have, like you know how sometimes like they had bones showing like on their elbows and parts of their arms, in the Chinese version, it's all covered with skin. Interesting. And there's a bunch of weird little differences like that in the game. Well, there were before the game got to the house. Anyway, are we talking about World of Warcraft now?

Yeah. Hey, so the guild's doing good. I started up a guild. Cool. We are the drunk tanks. Are you? Because that's a joke. No, that's funny.

Yeah, no, it's good. It's a play in the name. Yeah, play in it. I see what you did there. But it's interesting interesting no drunk tank members are in your guild though. That's do I count? Every now and then every now and then you can you can count I'm a partial member But no, it's going really well I have I have like two or three people message me every time I get on to join We're probably up to about 60 members now or so. And it's fun. And it's kind of cool. You can jump in anytime.

And it's a group of people that are all into Red versus Blue, Rooster Teeth, Achievement Hunter, and Drunk Tank stuff. So it's like you have a common interest already. It's cool to be here. You're on Don Bringer, right? Yeah, we're on Don Bringer. Which apparently everyone has told me.

Everyone who joins in who's been playing for a while says it's a horrible, horrible server. And I immediately tell them it was your fault Everyone says that about every server. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's all I know I didn't like I seem to remember that they're all fucking identical Trust me. No, they're not that's actually they're not all identical, but the server's fine You know what would get me to go back and play wow? I Would like to join a server start a new character one, and if the character dies, he's dead.

I think that would be a hardcore mode. I think that would be an awesome experience. Realism mode. Yeah, it would make it really, you would go out and pack to do stuff. That's true. It would make it a really interesting experience. God, man, fucking kill themselves. They would kill themselves.

And if you got ganked, you would be like, I'm gonna find you. It would be motherfuckers. It would be every every day it'd be like thousands of you stole my cloud song yeah but you're gonna think of the different dynamic too like you could put prices on people's heads like this guy has killed eight people we have got to kill this guy we've got to find him and kill him you know self-work episode it's interesting I did I did something kind of like I'm in a game not the reality by the way I did something kind of like that in Dungeons and Dragons last night where I got myself into some trouble And I was gonna die all I had to do was call out for help and I didn't I was like I'm gonna see if the DM will kill me

I didn't call out for help and sure enough. He didn't let me die Really a cheap character showed up at the last minute to Waltz in and save my life. I was prepared to go So what's the see yeah, I was kind of diss life. I was prepared to go. So what's the point? Yeah, I was kind of disillusioned. I was kind of sad. You should've called him on it. So indeed, if you're a fan of it. If your character dies, indeed, that's it.

Oh, you're fucking dead. You can be resurrected. I had negative two health, and I was bleeding out, and a negative two health. Yeah. Yeah. So like pre-dead? Yeah, you die at negative 10.

At zero, you go unconscious, and you slowly, every round, you lose one. I was bleeding at a hit point, until you get to negative 10. And they You go unconscious and you slowly every round you lose one. I was bleeding at a Hit point until you get to negative 10 and they swooped in and the neck of time saved me So this your character get to start just like jumping off clips and things like that Sticking pork and electrical softness. Gosh, would you play that? We'll see. Would you do that? Where we're we're we're we're a wild character that died Man, and you lost all your gear and everything probably not now

I don't think I would and you could loot the body of the person the dead person No, I don't think I'd do that. I played some muds like that like way back in the day You wouldn't you wouldn't be curious. I played muds like that back in the damn what the hell I'm gonna do anymore I think it would be a group of people would just become the ultimate assholes like they would you know It would just be like that group of 20 people who just you know look around as murder people They'd be killed. They'd be bullies. Yeah. And we killed. So they would be what's set out to kill those. Yeah. And then the group of 25 people would kill them. And if you get 30 people would kill them. And escalating ours. There'd be so much collateral damage in that though. Where like, you know,

if you're a new character, you're like level five or something like that. Then all of a sudden, like, oh, hey, look at that. Let's kill them. What you would have is you'd have a bunch of low-level characters taking pot shots at each other constantly. Yeah. Yeah. You know, what you would have is you have a bunch of low level characters taking pot shots These are constantly yeah, you know, and our key or you could you I wonder if you could like if there was like one powerful character You know, I don't know like let's just say Terrorizing the low level area like let's say like a little 50 character came was doing that like if everyone's like let's kill him Everyone just keep just roll level one characters and keep rerolling level one characters and just swarm him And that's like he gets overwhelmed with like hundreds of level 1 characters attacking him. Yeah, that's like a thing to say, either like yeah, they're just like reroll, new one, and just fucking keep going.

Like that episode of Seinfeld where all the kids hung out after the karate class and beat up karate. Oh yeah, that's what I did just like that. Yeah, you gotta work with numbers, that's what you do. It'd be hard to level up to 60 though, I mean you'd have to go... Fuck dude, you need 80. You'd start with a new server, they'll all be level 1s on it, that's it. No one would want to raid, no one level up to 60 though. I mean you'd have to go I'll do 80 you'd start with a new server. No, I'll be level ones on it That's it no one would want to raid no one would want to do anything We'll be fucking hiding and crying be but much people hanging out in the inn at brill

I would play I would play that for sure Yeah, yeah, they'd be in brill They wouldn't even make it to fucking under city Suppultures far too dangerous, but you have to think about it too If you saw like a level 30 character you'd be like how the hell did you get the level 30? Yeah, yeah You'd be wondering that as he's murder You know he'd be would be like there would be like these hero guys, you know You know a couple level 80s go at it and one of them dies and oh shit

And then the other ones even more powerful see in six months loser like fucking high lender Hey speaking to RPGs. How do you like dragon age guests that you've been playing it? It's all right. It's good. I've been really enjoying it. I think I'm like four or five hours in. How does it compare to co-tar? That's been so long as I played National Republic. I can't say. I think I like National Republic more just because of the, you know, the universe. Sure. The backstory. Did you play Jade Empire at all? No, I didn't. How does it compare to Mass Effect?

How about that? I think I like this more than Mass Effect. I'm not sure 100%. Very similar though, right? Yeah, you know, like Bratty and Tech's trees and things like that. Yeah. The party system is pretty good. I don't remember how you did your party management

in Mass Effect. Could you control your party members? Yeah, you could jump around, I I think you could jump turn around as yeah, you can play as that Yeah, that's one of the big things that I just I just think a while forgotten Dragon Age was you know Possessing your other characters and having them do stuff. Is it all slotted equipment and stuff? Yeah, that's pretty standard. Yeah, sure and I've seen the commercial for dragons age all over the place Have you seen that one the fully rendered one? Uh-huh. Yeah. It's like I've seen on every like pretty much everything I watch. So if they're targeting my demographic, they're doing a very good job of it. They're, I would guess they probably are targeting your demographic. You imagine that. You seemed like you were enjoying it

yesterday. You got into a more creative way. I had a dwarven three way like immediately. It was pretty awesome. He jazzed about that. He's talking about drag age. You know, sex know sex in the game well they don't show it but I just got bloated up in gay Tony I don't know awesome yeah weird I mean I can understand I'm not saying you shouldn't put it in there it's just like why would it is weird right yeah that's in fabled too I've been playing fabled too lately yeah fabled tears made a lot of there's a lot of sex like if unprotected sex or protected sex Man, fabled to is a fun game, but those fucking achievements are chinsy, dude

Hey, there's something weird about favel two that I want to talk to you about. What's that? I always had a demonstration here, but I'll show it to you later. I am playing favel two not off the disc But off the downloaded version, mm-hmm where you download episode one mm-hmm to Marketplace. Okay. How many episodes of that are there? Five. There are five. You are correct. Go to Marketplace on the 360. Go to Marketplace on xbox.com. See if you can download episodes two through five. Really? The answer is you cannot. You can only download episode number one. And it's about a two gig download. Because that's the only one that's out so far. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.

Nope. The way it works. It prompts you in the game to download it to when you get to the end of one or when you get your first achievement because one is free and Two is the paid version. So that's when you start unlocking achievements. So when you get your first achievement, it just automatically says, hey, you should pay for this. It says, yes, you got an achievement. If you unlock the game, you'll get it. So what would your be your reaction to that? I would unlock the game. So you hit X to unlock the game to get it? Yeah. Four gig download. Why?

So in the middle of playing, then you're sitting there waiting for a four gig download. So you get an achievement or get far enough in the story that they're like, hey, you should play more eventually. And four gig download. That's a fact. So when you see the four gig download, what would be your reaction?

I'm going to start the download and then go do something else. Mine was to quit and I'm just gonna keep playing and I'll re-get that achievement so it was so easy anyway. Or maybe I'll test to see if it unlocks it later when I do get the content. You cannot prompt the game to download the content. The only way that you can get the episode two file is to get to an event in the game that has you do it.

Now, you know how I play. I have other Xboxes in my house. I have Xboxes at work. I tried to load my episode two character on a new download of episode one. I couldn't load it. It said it's not valid. You need to get episode two. And there's no way to get it. I had to start a new character get to a point where I could get an achievement so you could Download to and then play with your two characters. I looked I showed this to Gus. I looked everywhere. I don't know Enough about Fable to but this seems wrong to me. It seems like this is impossible. There's got to be this can't be right. This is Fucking horrible. I am Mr. Payne customer. I'm ready to buy the next episode and I cannot find the menu to download Episode 2 and I gotta say marketplace. I don't know if it's the way they designed it or what, but now a game like Fable has 32 items in its list and it's a little folder

in marketplace. Yeah. And you got to scroll through stuff and you see, oh here's episode two. Oh wait, no, that's episode two of the video library. Okay, let me go this. Oh here's episode two. Oh no wait, that's episode two of the trailer for the DLC. So it's like, it's so confusing. Yeah. An episode two through five of the downloadable version of the game does not exist as far as I can tell in any possible format I read it down. I refuse to believe that I mean I know you're telling me and you I mean you went through it But that just doesn't seem like it's possible. That's actually kind of depressing like I'm actually sad about that It's a flaw in the system for sure. That's horrible. It's a big flaw. That's what I call big mist That's too bad. Can you just buy the full game on games on demand? No

Nope, if the episodic version that's it. Otherwise, I would have just done that. Yeah, of course Yeah, and download it. I mean, I don't want to interrupt the game for four gig downloads So how do you like at what point you've been playing fabled to a lot? I've known she's got about 330 achievement points in it a great game by the way Yeah, it is great games fun game. It's a fun game. It's a fun game to play with somebody else You know like riffing and I play together night. I'm just like it's not stingy about giving Achievements to the co-op player. Nope not at all. Yeah, I'll play her too That's cool

But at what point do you get to episode three and when you get to episode three? Do you pay for it automatically and lock because you've already downloaded six gigs at that point? It does that weird marketplace thing where it says says, hey, you're at episode three, is it 800 points, or should we unlock episode three? And you say, okay, well, I've already been through this one, so let me try it, you hit X to download, and it comes up, this is a 4.3 gig download. You're like, mother fucker.

And by the way, you hit it, it's a marketplace thing where it's a 4.3 gig download, but it just instantaneously unlocks. It's already downloaded, yeah. So it's like, re-downloading in a sense. What at what point do you remember what point you just had a curiosity what point you unlock

episode three? Because two is like get a first to figure it. It's the docs at the docs to go to bloodstone or whatever. To go to spire. Spire. Spire when you have hammering

you're getting on the boat to go to the docs. Okay, so when you're going for the hammer of or the I don't know I haven't unlocked yet. So it's not the strength. It's right after you finish the crucible. Yeah, okay. Westfield?

Yeah, right. Westfield with the crucible. When you go to leave Westfield via the docks, that's it. Okay. I have no idea either, Jay. I'm lost. I'm at that point in the game, and I've been at that point in the game for about 10 hours, because they're like, don't get on that boat, unless you're ready to get on the boat.

That is the point. I'm also not getting on the boat, because I don't understand that either. Yeah, so I'm doing like every other achievement in the game I can before I get on the boat. Yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know either. Yeah. You know what achievement I did last night? Or not last night, but the other night it's a pain in the ass.

It's a gambler one where you have to make $500. Those gambling games are cool though. They are pretty cool. They're pretty fun. I did it on the second one, the one in West, not Westfall. Which is to describe it for people who are... It's the one with the cards where they throw a Card down and then they put two cards on top of it And I don't know and you don't know that one and it's like a reverse

It's like a pyramid and each time if like say if you get a six on this row and then a six on this next row and they touch You lose I'm always impressed with the card games that people can come up with after all this time I mean cards are an old technology You know in terms of gaming and it's amazing that people who make video games can they've made like five or six unique original fun games to play in the in the casinos there yeah not casinos they're a little game I think there's four that sounds cool four different ones in fable and they're all cool games that first one the betting one it's kind of like archstone archstone yeah awesome you get lost in that game are these the ones that they had available for download like downloadable games yeah I think so okay I don't I don't own

pub games but I think so you're gonna have. There's a little bit of a controversy in that you have to have pub games to get all thousand points. How so? There's a dog trick that's only available through pub games and you have to have all the dog tricks and all the unlock all the thing. Oh really? It's a lack flip. Motherfucker. But then I heard they in reaction to that, they made it easily obtainable in DLC, but either way you can't get the full thousand points just by having the retail game. Oh that's bullshit. I was Microsoft to prove that. I was Microsoft for first party game. They can violate their rules if they want to. Bullshit. It's all experiments. I was going to buy the public games in all the DLC anyway. So yeah

but yeah that sucks. That sucks. But I gotta say that Fabel 2 is a really great game. It's a fun 360 game And like I said, they don't punish the co-op player But I agree with you 100% however that game leaves no impression on me Like I don't I will sit down and play it because it's something that Griffin and I can do together And it's a game that we can play co-op, but I don't leave thinking I gotta get back into Fabel 2 and player I can't wait to see what happens. It's a lot of collecting and a lot of grinding stuff. It is. It is. And they presented it a fun way, but they're just like, I'm not like engrossed in that story in any way at all.

Yeah, and co-op, you don't want to watch somebody work their job as a blacksmith. Okay, I'm not sure. Did you do the level five blacksmith or whatever? I have fucking ever. Yeah, it's cool. It's a little mini game though. Well, job mini game. I got an achievement yesterday in a fairy taleale fight So I've been playing now there's and there's an achievement for Staying in basically the menu world for 15 minutes

That seems like those kinds of achievements are becoming more popular the menu world Well like like basically there's a little like you walk around like you can select your character here You walk over to different places either your options here. You walk over different place start your quest here And but there's no fighting no nothing like there's nothing going on in there, other than the options, you have to stay in there for 15 minutes. Sounds like a punishment. Yeah, it's like, there was one in guitar hero two, there was an achievement for watching the credits. Yeah. And that was like a 10 or 15 minute credit sequence. Yeah. There's a lot of ways we have to secret a monkey island when we have to

be underwater for 10 minutes. There was one in saw called you wasted your life. We have to be idle in like just standing there for five minutes. Stupid I hate those. I'm not a big fan of it. Achievements are a weird thing too because when they first started they kind of seemed like something you would discover on your own. And I thought part of the community process would be trying to figure out what the achievements were and they're not that at all anymore. Now they're released with all the other information before a game comes out. It's like part of the press of what the achievements are going to be. And those those achievements like the one you just talked about the stay in the menu world for 15 minutes, they break achievements from you because to me the idea of an achievement

is to present the game in a way that you wouldn't have necessarily thought to play it and to add replay value to the game. And that's taking you away from playing the game. Yeah. It makes no sense to me. And to me, there's like, there's a way to show, there a way to make single player competitive. Right. That's what I like about it. Yeah, absolutely. You can show that, look, I did this. I finished ODST on legendary, you know?

Yeah, to this day, my geometry wars, one 200 of 200 points is like one of my proudest things I've done on an Xbox. Sure. Because if you know anything about geometry wars, you know if someone has 200 of 200, that's pretty bad. Yeah, and it's a nice summary too that you can say that I know what that means. You know, speaking of Xbox arcade games, Jack, you mentioned this the other day, but apparently this week and you can get Xbox 360 super cheap, right? Yeah, yeah, actually, I just made a post on achievement hunter. Walmart's doing a deal on Saturday. You can buy an Xbox arcade unit for $200 and it comes with a $100 gift card.

Wow. So essentially you're buying an arcade for $100. A Walmart gift card or an online gift card? I didn't. I don't know. You can use that gift card to buy a memory card because you're going to need one. Buy fucking hard drive. No, I believe the arcade comes with a memory card. Oh, that's awesome. That's the only storage it has. I guess it's got to have some storage, right? It's essentially Microsoft's gateway to the market. What do you do with like in-exe and stuff? It has some internal memory.

It's not much. It has the 500 megs internal memory for updates. It's a Walmart gift card. It looks like according to Walmart.com. That's pretty cool. Can you apply that gift card to the purchase of the Xbox? No, probably not. It's from loophole. Walmart.com lists it as out of stock. So hopefully you can find it

in stores. Yeah. That's really interesting. No, it's only available Saturday. It's like the ad that's going out. It's like Saturday from like 80m is when they kick it off or whatever. Still do. That's a pretty fun crazy. Yeah, 100 bucks for 360. That's great. That's a great deal. Did you go trample some people for that? I don't want to see those videos. Those are always the worst. Yeah, they're coming soon. God, last year, I mean, those people died for no reason. Yeah.

Well, like, didn't like a pregnant woman get trampled? God. People get knocked down, they're just charging into Walmart. I just, I don't understand why show up that day. Why is it, why do people go crazy for tax-free days too? In Texas We have a day before school starts a weekend where it's tax-free weekend, where you don't pay sales tax. Sales tax in Texas is 8.25%. If they had a 8.25% off sale, nobody would show up. But the fact that it's tax-free day, everybody in the world clogs every street in Austin. I make sure, I make sure I'm ready for that weekend so I don't have to leave my house at all that entire weekend. Yeah, it's like, there's a series of events in Austin

that local Austin has have to shut to themselves in for Southwest, ACL, tax-free, the Biker rally, where we just can't leave our house. Texas Relays. Texas Relays, a big one, yeah. That's around my house because I'm brought by the stadium and everything. Okay, go on with that.

It takes a really, it's never bothered me in the past, but I guess I live right by the stadium. They. No, I don't say it takes a really said neighbor bothered me in the past, but I guess I live right by the state. They will now did you won't go anywhere? Football games can be pretty bad also in our neighborhood. Man, I just imagine part of the worst thing ever is if you live in New Orleans and Marty Gras shows up once a year. Or if you live in like Daytona Beach and spring break, you know, that's all a march. Yeah, that does sound fucking terrible. You're right. So people do have it much worse.

Yeah, we have a bad week here in there. Yeah, it's not like they get a bad season You're in fucking the tone of beach. So you're staring at girls and bikinis for a month or dudes maybe yeah Or just you're hearing lots of packs of dudes going Look at the other fight with anybody who make eye contact with them while we're speaking about mainstream Walmart America can I ask a question? Sure speaking about mainstream Walmart America. Can I ask a question? Sure. Why do they continue to build fast food restaurants that have two drive-through windows? Has anyone ever seen the first drive-through window being used?

No. And at the point in time? Never. What is the economical zenith that has to happen in order for them to open up that first thing? No, I see it happen all the time. The Wendy's by our house. They always use both windows. There's a Wendy's by our house? In the Hancock Center or by club HB Club HV. There's a windies over there

Yeah, it's right on the feeder road of of 35. Oh, I would never yeah, I'm sorry I don't they use it. They use both windows. It's by this years. You're right actually the in and out out in Los Angeles They have they usually have two windows, but it's on either side of building But they have a guy standing outside with the fucking Well, but they also they also have like the drive up things too if that guy is not there Yeah, I think lots of places use both windows in and out as a burger franchise that's in California It's mainly in the west coast, but mainly California Nevada over there and I've never been there when there wasn't an enormous line I mean enormous where there's cars wrapped around the building.

And there's a guy standing in the parking lot taking your work. We, uh, Jeff and I helped cause a line this past year at Comic Con. We went through the drive to order like 15 hamburgers. You know the funny thing about that trip is that in an out was right next to a Carl's Jr. I don't know if you remember this. It was a Delta.

Oh, Delta. You're right, Delta. And we had our lady with the little machine who was taking an order outside and she had like a little awning and stuff that she was standing under and there was this huge line of cars. And then we went forward about a few feet and we saw the deltaco and there was the dude at deltaco outside with the punching machine under his awning was fucking just like dead. It was dead. It was totally dead. But deltaco could have been closed. He looked like the most bored dude in the planet and his job is to stand there and watch in and out be successful And it sounds like well that guy just gets to hang out and sit in the shade

Well, the other guy's working his ass off if you've ever worked a job like that. You know It's always better to be busier than it is to be slow It's slow and he has to stand in a parking lot, you know with you know in hailing car exhaust all day It's just man when you're just stop. Yeah time does stop when you're watching the clock and it's just like oh Yeah, I saw her at a grocery store the same deal if there was no lines would just be boring as hell But when I was busy It's like when we work tech supporters like yeah, you complain when there was a long queue and you know It constantly on the phone, but at least your ship was over fast

It was a real you aren't just sitting there like staring at the wall. We have been very fortunate and thank you to all of our fans for this. In that when we go to conventions there we stay very busy. There's always people to talk to. We don't often sit at the booth waiting for someone to come up and say hello. When I worked at the Texas Work Company I would do go do convention sales and there would be eight hours where you just be standing in a booth and you might see in the convention hall six people. That's so sad. It's really, it was hard. I mean, you should be like, you have a lot of philosophical debate with your

self. How, what you're doing with your life when you're just standing there. Well, I saw some of those at PAX Those those booths that God knows how much they paid for those booths and there's they have like a poster and then someone in behind a table with a book Yep, Gus and I went to Austin GDC a while back when was that it was in September Yeah, and that's that's all Austin GDC was was it was a bunch of those like prefabbed booths that you would see at the internet conference with people in like button up blue-gine shirts with an embroidered logo of some game company. Just standing there looking like they'd rather be doing anything else in the world. We're like, please someone come talk to us. Please, I want to talk to you about our engine or our micro processing, micro transaction processor.

We can process credit card payments on the iPhone. Let me show you. Please, God, let me show you. Gus and I actually went to a convention for a friend who was starting a Convention. Do you remember this Gus? I how can you forget we went to one in Florida It was the first year they had the convention and We had a feeling it was weird and sketchy so only Gus and I went and The guy for whatever reason didn't do any promotion for it and there was up

There was a bunch of people there that we see at other conventions and do any promotion for it. And there was a bunch of people there that we see at other conventions. And most impact up and left the first day, but we knew the guys, we thought obligated to hang out for a day or two extra. Because Florida's always been really good to us at conventions.

I think Gus, what would you say was the total attendance of this guy's con? Maybe a thousand. Whoa. That's, he's being nice. We, we, it was so slow, we had time to leave the convention, go buy a TV and the next box in Halo 3 and play Halo 3 Because Halo 3 had just come out and and so we went and played we played Halo 3 all weekend in our booth

It was it was fucking brutal. Yeah, it was pretty and reminding me of the days before when I go to cons where there was it was a Professional convention, you know for the telecom of the Southwest or something like that. And there would be 50 people there and there'd be a thousand vendors showing stuff. That's the convention where I took that picture. That's in my image gallery where we hooked up my, when we hooked up the Xbox to rent through the hotel internet. Yeah, we used, we hooked it up into my laptop to get the internet. And it was a thing, too, where it was like we had other like sci-fi writers and stuff who were nearby us and,

you know, like the former sci actresses with her head shots from 30 years ago. Yeah They were coming out and I remember they were giving his grief about playing Halo in our booth It's like what fuck you? What are we just in here and stare at the fucking wall to make you happy? Yeah, that was stupid and the guy man every time that Convention organizer would come around that was stupid and the guy man every time that conventional organizer would come around It was a get the fuck away Yeah, it was it was pretty rough. I hate I hate to even think about how much money that guy lost Yeah, that's really sad really sucks

Speaking of losing money. This is a this is a story that you might get a kick out of Bernie I don't know if you hurt this but I guess that there's this Dutch hacker who has started hacking people's jailbroken iPhones in the Netherlands. And he sends them, he hacks their phone, then locks them out of their phone and sends them a text message saying, your iPhone's been hacked because it's really insecure. Please visit this URL to secure your iPhone. And you have to send him five euros and then he sends you instructions of how to get your phone back. That's fun.

That's digital extortion, I love it. That's funny. So he's paying for protection, and I'll secure your phone. Yep. And you can't take it to the Apple store because it's a hacked iPhone. Right.

That's funny. Yeah, when you... When you... When you... When you... Nothing you can do about it, because it's fucking jailbroken and insecure. Re-played, so.

That's pretty aggressive for a Dutch dude, I gotta say. Yeah. So it's I thought that was really fucking funny and yeah, you're totally locked out of your phone and I think he also says like I can see everything on your phone right now. Nice. Wow. He said this is in the Netherlands. Yeah. Because I guess when you jailbreak it by default it enables you to SSH into your phone and most people don't know that and most people don't know enough to change the route password So the SSH is in everyone's phone as root and then fucks with them and locks them out not that sophisticated the hack at all No, I don't know. Yeah, it's just people are jailbreak because it's like we always talk about like the you know Hacking by Google. It's like oh follow these instructions. Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing

But I know how to get to Ostelevista So I I'm a hacker. You want to be a hacker right now try to connect to 192.168.1.1 and use the password admin You'll probably get in there too, you know Everyone who's got a links this router and never change your thing because he just exposed a major security Ars is admin one. Yeah, Ars is nimda. Ars is are one. Ars is Nimda. Ars is Linksys. But I mean you talk about people not understanding it. I just read this weekend that someone is filing a class action lawsuit because they found out their neighbor can pick up their baby monitor

and monitor the inside of their house when they use the same brand of baby monitor. Yeah, I was baby monitor. Duh. That's stupid. I mean, right? People are fucking stupid. How do you not know that? It's a walkie talkie that's always on. That's all it is. Yep. We used to pick up the burger king drive through on my dad's police scanner. That was fun. Yeah, and then back back in the day, I used to have like a VHF UHF TV and I could hear everyone's cordless phones on my UHF channels

Not a big deal. It happens Yeah, cordless phones use a different frequency now, but you know back then it's when you had the huge ones with the antenna yet to pull out There's there's a lot of trust. Speaking of this is a little different, but it's very funny I don't know if we ever talked about this on the podcast But when you lived in that apartment complex over a side back in the day His phone line was somehow crossed for this neighbor's phone line and his neighbor was a drug deal. And he would sometimes pick up Gus' phone, we would do it all the time and you could just listen into the guy making drug deals, be like, yeah, I come over, you know, by half an ounce, all right, yeah, no problems, 120 bucks,

all right, cool, yeah, just leave the money under the on the potter in the front yard, all right, cool, click, you would pick it up to make it to order pizza and there's just be in the middle of a drug deal. Yeah, you'd be constantly be hearing drug deals like all right, dude was busy It was it was a there. I think they're a defunct to see like now, but it was wall or communications. I know wall Yeah, they must have had they must have hired a bad subcontractor to wire their phone lines in that building It was awesome. You could hear everything by the way. See how excited they got about a seal Throughout some telco terms and bring perks on yeah when I when I was in, when I lived on Riverside, where you're talking about, I took my cordless phone,

not my cell phone. I did my cordless phone down to the laundry room and then left it there because I was gathering laundry and was talking to somebody on my way down there and then left there and some guy picked it up and we were starting getting calls placed to Mexico on the phone, but it became this adventure of, we'd look at the placed to Mexico on the phone But it became this adventure of we'd look at the base station and when the light would turn on

We knew the guy was somewhere within about three hundred And we'd pick up a yellow them and then we'd run out and try to find them We'd like to make this spiral around the apartment complex and we never found the dude God it's fucking funny So I can relate to that story you know, what would you would have done if you if you found him? I would have got you would have got him to He would have bought his phone back for $25 I tell you exactly what I would have done. I would have done something I don't know what and then I would have made myself seem cooler later when I told

That's exactly what I would have made myself seem cooler later when I told the town that exactly what I would have done. Oh man. Like I learned Spanish on the way down on the stairs and yelled at the guy and he apologized to me. As opposed to me going, there he is. Hey, don't do that. Excuse me sir. I think our eventual strategy was the battery ran out of juice. Like eventually that he charge it. And it couldn't charge it. So we could put a note about a dorsing. We'll charge you. X amount of dollars just to charge the phone. That's a fact.

Hey, so has anyone else seen these new ultra HD specs that I guess that are getting finalized? No, you were talking about this morning already. Yeah, so apparently, I guess, you know, they want to have everything standardized so they can start having Ultra HD out by 2017. Ultra HD, we made a joke about that other season 4 DVD. Well, it's reality.

You can, you can, why is it? One resolution. Well, there's gonna be two resolution levels. Oh god, dammit. Well, it's just like 720. Why? Why, why? Why do we need two resolution?

Well, there's a Walmart one. They're gonna roll it out of phases. The lower resolution's gonna come out out 2017 in the higher resolution in 2022 Anyway, the resolutions are 4k for the low end 8k for the high end Wait, wait, wait, and it comes with a 22.2 multi-channel 3-dimensional sound. What? Dimensional does it really go to other dimensions? No multi-channel 3-dimensional Multi-channel 3 three dimensional 22.2 So that's two subs and 22 speakers. Yes, I have no idea what you do with that many speakers even with that many subs

What do you need? I mean what do you need more than five four 8K resolution is 7680 by 4320 there's a little graphic here. I'll show you guys that I'll have to link dump it that shows like this blue here Is a big resolution and that purple right there is what the red can shoot in. Oh my god. I can show diagram. Now when you go you got to think about this in terms of like square footage instead of linear. So when you say like one k to two k two k is about four times the size that one k is one k is typically 1080 resolution. It's right around there. But that's usually what's referred to is one k. Two k is typically what they show in a movie theater in a cinema. And now we're just now getting our red shoots in 4K. And

they're just now getting projectors that can project in 4K in the movie theater. I don't know that you can tell the difference in a movie theater between 2K and 4K. 4K is 4520 by 2540. 8K is going to put every single broadcaster out of job. You cannot, it be like looking at someone from an inch away while they talk to you. Yeah. It's going to be disgusting. It's going to make it's going to make for some great porn. Yeah, it's going to kill porn. Well, I think by that point, what is it about high depth? Artificial announcers anyway. Yeah, maybe. You know, people are going to want to look at other people. We're just going to want to look at computer animated versions of people or cartoons or something.

It's just like Japan. Yeah. Yeah. Or they'll be photo realistic, but, you know, they'll be flawless. We'll have the pod racer announcers from episode. Meg Proof is going to do all the news. I'd rather have the two cranky old man from the moment show in the balcony. I really wouldn't be surprised if you had it like in within the next five six years if you had like a Katie Kourik where It's her reading the news, but it's all done with like facial real-time mocap and it's on a model of Well, Katie Kourik looks like I was gonna take it a step further and say yeah, that that's what I had in mind also, but It's gonna be hopefully so you can select the model you're looking at Yeah, I guess some kind of feedback where feedback where that information is stored as metadata. Do you really think that's going to happen? You can select the, you can reskin the news to however you want.

Do you honestly think that's going to happen? Yeah, why wouldn't it? We're going to get our news from CGI characters. I could see that. I could definitely see entertainment. I could see replacing actors with people with the CG people. Absolutely. News would be much easier.

Well, I'm, but news, I mean, why not just read it, you know, if it's going to get to that point, I mean, if you're not getting it from a human, like why not, why not read it now? No, no, we talked about Walter Cronk. The whole thing about news is you have to trust the person delivering the news to you. And why, why would you trust an animated character? I don't, I don't think I'll tell you, you're assuming it's

going to be an animated character. I'm saying it'll just look like a flawless human being Which would you get anime to care? But you won't he saying you might not know it's animated you wouldn't know Ah, yeah, but I mean, that's not like you know Do you think they could sneak that on the air? I think they're about 10 years Yeah, I think they get sneak that on the air and I think it'd be real time Like I think they get a camera in the back room on Katie Kurek in her pajamas with a couple dots on her face

They probably need that and she'll be reading news with real emotion and it'll be translated. Is it worth all the effort to go to that as opposed to just filming someone? You can fire makeup people. You can fire, you know, your set designer because it's all, you know, I mean, you can take your studio. You don't need the studio. Well, I mean, I see that's more likely me. I would see a green screen studio before replacing a person Well, we already have that it's baby steps. Yeah. Yeah, especially within then if it's a lot easier To take that that 3d person and stick them in a 3d presentation like a hologram

You don't have to have a real studio. You have a fake person anyway. It'll be it'll be like the progression from regular content like scripted content to reality TV to fucking animated reality TV. Why are you swear when you say it? Like, cuz I swear about everything. Like, someday we'll have big brother with like Elvis and Hitler and Gandhi. There's a show on camera, maybe. There's a show on camera, maybe. Is there? It's some cartoon show. Oh, drawn together. Yeah. If I have a little, if I have a have a little Katie Curric on my countertop

on making breakfast, walking around. By the way, I don't have a Katie Curric kind of. She's an example that I came up with, and I'm sticking with it. And she's walking around on my countertop, delivering me the news while I'm making space eggs. I'm wherever I'm going. The, you know, I mean, what difference?

I mean, she can't be in a real studio. You know what I mean? Like, they're going to have to be in a MoCAP studio anyway. It's like, why not, you know, for mean what difference I mean she's she can't be in a real studio You know, you mean like they're gonna have to be in a mocap studio anyway. It's like why not you know for this 8k Resolution you're not gonna want to look at Katy Kirk in 8k So you're especially in 10 years. I mean she's cute, but she's not gonna hold up. She's America sweetheart So it's like the Katy Kirk Cortana basically it'll be like how Michael steel walks out in the Republican That's the best ever I will say, I think the spec is total bullshit because how can you spec out a 2D flat display for 2017? We're not gonna have those.

We're not gonna be interested in those anymore. We'll see, gotta spec it out anyway. You're gonna have 3D on your desktop and your computer probably the next five, six years. I hope not. It'll happen to what happens when it happens. It's gonna happen fast. I hope I can get high-series.

I surgery to implant the 3d glasses directly into my cornea It'll be like minority report with the multiple screens and stuff We're getting close to that now with the tall we're getting close to a lot of stuff in my Or maybe a tall that's Well, I mean like though you're talking about like running an Xbox just using your hands And that's what minority report is basically. Let's see. Yeah, we'll see when it's that that's true The talking about Xbox reminds me that Hilla way points coming out soon. We should talk about that. Yeah, let's talk about it. We made a video for it We did us and I made a video for a point we showed a preview showing everyone what they can expect it comes up tomorrow

Doesn't it we actually have a red versus blue video on there as well. I hope I can say that yeah I'm sure I can see it's in the preview. Okay. Yeah, we have a reverse blue video on there too burning didn't watch our preview Jeff No videos are new one The one that was on there was DIY so that was that's where you guys are griffball. Yeah. But uh, way points actually pretty fucking cool. No, we made another waypoint video PSA specifically for waypoint. Yes, we did. Yeah, is that on there? I don't know. Okay, I probably just fucking that's fine. I talk about. Okay. We should tell me what's okay. Nobody. It's nobody would have expected that we would make a video for Halo waypoint Yeah, that's you're in it. We tipped our hand oops

Yeah, that way point is pretty cool. I am a level 38 Halo player out of 40 level 40. Oh god I don't want to see your mind is by the way that that that says to me more than anything else System might be a little tweaking you're not a level 38 anything. Yes. I am well Well, it's all based on achievements, right? Yeah. Yeah. So that would make sense for you. I need about 160 achievements to get up to 40. Don't worry, Bernie. I'm sure you'll be a level 40. I'm sure you'll be a higher level than Jeff. No. So I mean, you have more points in ODST than I do. You'll be up there. I bet you're already a level 40. I mean, it's not just Halo. We actually read a story recently. How few people finish single player campaigns. It was crazy, very low.

I think what was it, the, God, I wish I had that in front of me, was it Call of Duty 4 had the highest rate of people finishing the campaign, and it was 45%. Yeah, people who buy the game and play it. It was Fable 2 was actually the highest. It was around 45%. But Call of Duty 4 was right behind it. I'm looking at the list right here.

I thought it was that recently that said, less than 1% of all users who play Halo 3 have all the achievements. I'm surprised about that. That's 1000 or 1000. It's hard to do. Yeah, yeah, but still that's pretty awesome. Hell, I don't have all the achievements in Halo 3. Now I've only got 1575.

Go, I think this is the original 1000. Oh, okay. Yeah, I take it back. I was looking at the wrong chart here. We were looking at percent game or score completion. Percent completing campaign called due to four is the highest and it's just over 70%. Okay. Oh, it's actually pretty high. Yeah, Halo three is the second highest right around 70%. The graph I was looking at before is people who I guess who thousand point a game. Oh, what the hell are we talking about then? Yeah, percent game or score completion versus percent completing. 70% of people completing the campaigns actually really good. That is pretty yeah, but the GTA 4 was under 30%

Really I am amongst the majority who did not finish you're amongst the majority who don't have a thousand points in halo to I do I have a thousand points in halo. We talk about retail game that's not what you said That would you say Come down. We're all friends. Oh, I don't have a thousand boys in Halo and I'll never get a thousand Why not cuz I suck it. Hey, it's easy like overkill They're gonna never get it over dude. They're gonna release enough DLC. It'll be super easy I got a thousand points. I'm talking about a hundred percent completion not a thousand. That's not what you said All right, take it easy listen

We started the podcast's friends. Let's end the podcast is just like that people saying stuff that they don't mean I can tell me once getting that he's looking at you He's like this is the point of the podcast where I have I realize I haven't been angry Yeah, we got amtabled. I had I invent a reason to be mad Yeah, I grow grus Gus and no, it's like it's like it's like a drug. He can only go see you know tired higher levels To sustain his need don't don't be a hater just cuz just cuz I hate Don't hate the hater hate the game don't hate the hate We got anything else you can talk about this week before we wrap up. I don't know I feel like we've been talking for a lot. There's a lot going on right now. Yeah, oh so by this time next week

I'm on and warfare to be out and that's what you did excited. I got legal rock man. Oh, yeah I got legal rock been to I know it's really what's a song list like that on what's what's a song list like just cool Just I don't know. It's just little songs that they're all over the place like there's blur song to Jackson 5's on there. Yeah, you give love a bad name by Bungie. There you go. He's probably better to say you know I think there's a David Bowie song and it lets dances on there.

I mean it's really game right. It's really eclectic. Dude ghost busters the right pocket junior song is in there. Really? My daughter played it three times last night. That's awesome. I mean, I made that up. I made that up. I made that up.

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They didn't make instruments and they should make kid size instruments first of all for it. And then they have this mode, which is the whole reason I bought it, which is very easy mode. From what I can tell, very easy mode is just easy mode with less stringent scoring. I don't think you can fail very easily. That's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for very easy

I'm looking for you use just red and or just red and yellow that's it and you're just timing the strums right it's teaching you to Strong. Yeah just teaching the kids the beat you know without you know I want a very easy mode not easy but less Morbility fail because the kids I want the kids to be able to keep up with it. Yeah, no, it sucks because my 40 year old wants to play that game desperately because it's Lego and it's very cool, but it's still the guitar is way too big for her. And she can't handle three buttons and strumming. We can buy a third party smaller guitar, right? Like those again. I don't know.

But it seems like they recognize the need. They're making an effort to fill the need for people who have kids, parents who have kids that they want to play the music game to get into music, right? That's what you're going for. Yeah. So what I'm going for too. And it seems like they recognize that.

They put out a product to fill that need, and they didn't do it. Nope. You know, I'd be interested. It hasn't really been on my radar, but yesterday, Band Hero came out, which is like the competitor to a rock to Lego Rock Band. We should see if they have that kind of stuff in there. Yeah.

I mean, it doesn't seem kind of stupid. Does it seem dumb to you that Lego Rock Band has an expert mode? Yes, that seems dumb It seems not as serially because I mean there's gonna be completion is out there who get a buy every rock band game I yeah, I guess yes, but good for them. I mean they're buying Lego rock band. Yeah They're buying another music. I don't expect Lego Indiana Jones to be fucking Halo 3 difficulty That's completely different genres. I mean, one to one controller. I mean, the LEGO Indiana Jones isn't based off a series

of Indiana Jones games. Yeah, I hate to admit it, but I agree with Jack on this one. Like, I'm probably gonna pick up LEGO Rock Band, not, you know, for a kid or any, but I want to play the songs that it has. Alright, well, you could say LEGO Star Wars is based off Star Wars games. There's a billion of those.

Oh, it says based off the movies more than the games. Case off the movies more than the games. I don't understand what you're saying oh it's he's based off the movies more in the games Cased off the movies more than the games I don't understand all the games are based off the movies the Lego the Lego the Lego games are traditionally based off Franchises Lego Batman Lego Indiana Jones Lego Star Wars and it's like taking it's like writing a children's book about a movie like writing a children's version of it I got to it Lego rock band is based off of franchise the rock band franchise Yeah, and it's their take on the rock band franchise. Yeah, it's a fucking kid. There's gonna be hard mode in all of the Lego games too I mean all of like the Lego Indiana Jones games right? No, no no. There's just story mode and free-plane mode Yeah, there's no difficulty setting no no kids games It has the word Lego on it Lego means kid

Not necessarily yes is it goes up to 13 plus let me ask you a question go to the fucking go find Legos at Target and tell me what section They're not gonna be in the grown up hunting section. They're in the fucking kids section As a parent I'm pissed off about it because I do feel kind of duped by that game By which one by Lego rock band really? I bought? I bought it so that I could in like Bernie said They did put in expert mode and they put as much effort in that as they should have put into the very easy mode Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if I agree with that I mean that's literally just like adding an additional track like this is literally just reducing a fucking No, no, no, you can be as pissed off as you want about the super easy are the easy mode or whatever

I'm assuming it's difficult to understand why they put the Experts I'm assuming it's difficult to map those buttons. That's what that most of that game is is determined Yeah, where the notes should yeah, but they should have they should have mapped the very easy mode correct right They should have made a very easy mode instead of even going to take the time to map the expert songs They should said you know it would probably not they make experts under the thing is they did take the time to map a very easy Mode they just didn't map it sufficiently. It's not correct It's not as easy as they did they didn't map it They just took the easy one and copied it like if you played it first same if you played expert and expert was

Advanced but it was just harder scoring. Yeah, I didn't realize that they're very easy in the easy track Where identical they use is the first three buttons? Okay, so that's that's easy. Yeah, no, it's really dumb Yeah, they should have they should have spent more time on the very easy mode for sure I mean, I'll just have one we just strum, you know, and they'll say play free play mode But it's not also creating an expert mode for a game that's marketed towards kids is basically this is like nine Intennial kids that are in the Lego that are in the Legos at this point right we can agree on that I don't know but they're using it's a part of the way to to market towards people who aren't kids That's aren't gonna kill a day of boys in the game. That's fucking this marketing as far as I'm concerned

But I think it's okay. It looks like kids version of it. That's fine Yeah, I mean also if you're gonna have an expert mode make it be an expert mode that a kid could do if you like a kid That's the plays and gets better and better at rock band at eight years old make an expert mode That's attainable for an eight year old But then there's gonna be that kid who could play expert level, like legit expert level. Yeah, you've seen these youth kids. That one kid sure. But that kid should play fucking rock and roll.

But you can work up to it. Like every kid wants very easy. Is what we're saying. I think we're all on the same page here. I don't know why we're arguing. Yeah. It's like hooting up, clouding with a chance of meatballs

and there's a legendary mode in that. You know, does it make sense? But I mean, as far as like having an expert mode, like it means what Gus said, you can rip those songs to your rock band to playlist. That's my and so that mean that's why it's in there. I mean, it's because you know, people are just going to want the songs. I mean, basically like a rock band is a new music pack. Yes, but that also is a game.

Yes, they actually told me that in the score. Yeah, I agree with you. I just think don't put in the expert mode. If you you're gonna have the very easy mode and put some time in it Yeah, no, I think we all agree and I don't know what I'm doing. No, I what I'm saying is I think I agree more Man this turns suddenly hostile. Yes, like oh weirdly. Just doesn't know what to do when other people are angry It's like neutral I don't understand because we're all agree and everyone's doing All right, do we have anything else to talk about before we wrap neutral. I don't understand, because we're all agree, and everyone's still angry. All right. Do we have anything else we want to talk about before we wrap up?

I don't think so. All right. We're all going to go to therapy now. Okay. Group up. Well, everyone, take a breath. I have a good lunch. Modern warfare two next week, and then Lefforded the week after that.

Heels essence, and SS is good to you. And Halo Waypoint this week. And Lefforded two demo is available now. Awesome. Awesome. I started my download this morning. Okay, all right, thanks for listening. Bye.

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