Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #36

Episode Date: November 18, 2009

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That was nafone or nif nif nif yani any F Y O N I Were you listed in there? I know your name or Bernie's name I don't know I heard gabs, which he has been on the podcast. Well, I guess that means we're not in the show No, okay, that's it. It's all you Jack. Well, I was on there either you work And you get no fucking credit. We are gustless this week. So we may be angrily. And Joel is. No, definitely. Angrily and retardless. You know what Joel? Joel is going to be crazy the last week and half because I have desperately been trying to find a home for the office cat

for the coolest cat in the world. Porjo. Yeah, we didn't actually mention them on the podcast because we knew that probably somebody who listens would want the cat and it would become this long process of well, how do we get the cat to get it up? Not to Oregon after last week. Nobody from Oregon. Right.

Hey, I'll take your cat and I'll throw off a damn bridge. But so Joel, anyway, Joel and this cat are clearly made for each other. Joel is a single man. Can obviously have a cat. No problems. He should have taken the cat. Everybody realized that loves the cat. Loves the cat.

The cat loves Joel. And he was fucking with me during that whole process. He would know it. He was fucking with me because he would come in and he would say I think I'm gonna take the cat and then I'd say okay, well do you want the cat? I go that would be great This by the way happened about 30 times and then he go no no no no I can't take the cat No, no like I had asked him like I'd imposed on him telling me had to take the cat and it was almost turning into a sitcom situation Because Joel would say he doesn't want the cat and Matt would be there and he'd say no Joel doesn't want the cat then Matt would leave right then about

40 minutes later Joel would come in by himself and say to me all right I think I'm ready to negotiate for this cat and I said all right I said do you want the cat because I'd love for you to have the cat then it's it was I would say that Matt would walk in and Matt would say Bernie he said he already said he doesn't want the cat And then later Matt talking to me and he goes you keep trying to push this cat on Joel Don't do that. I said no, I'm not Joel keeps asking me for the cat and even yesterday

When Krista who works on a pajama achievements. She's one of the girls from pajama achievements She took the cat great home. Hopefully Joel will be very happy there Joel had to go with us. Yes, why? Think by the way the cat's name is Joe And then we're talking about Joel who's you know not to be confused our office parrot or whatever These are official mascot the other pet. Yeah Yeah, he had to come with us even to the moment where she took the cat and we walked away He was still saying I could possibly she has a dog and I think in his mind

He was thinking if the cat and the dog don't get along I'm gonna throw him my car and take him to my house. He was waiting for that moment to happen, to have an excuse, be like, all right, I'll do it. Do you think it was that or do you think he was looking for any opportunity to go to a girls apartment? You know, I pulled, I did something where I went to go and make a tag for Joe and I was going to make it with Christa's phone number on it. And I thought, oh, I'm a text. I don't have Christa's phone number.

I need to find it out. So I'll just text Jack and get her phone number. I thought, ah, I'll text Joel and get her phone number through Joel. So I would have Joel even knew that or if he's already erased the text message. I would think I have the feeling he has no idea that he had her phone number because I texted him through her or him through him. Yeah, that sounds like a sitcom. Oh, man.

I just, you know, I'm very happy that Joel has a new home and Joel will have a new home next week. And next week's thrilling conclusion will be, does Joel want lunch? I don't know, man. I think it's so hard. Calories. Well, yeah, but Joe, Joe seemed very happy. When we left last night, he was, he had a new little house

that you bought for him. He curled up in very quickly. Yeah, when I was at Pet Smart buying the tag for him, I bought him a little like cubby to sit in. Sure. He took to it immediately. Like, which is a, like, if you have cats, it literally is like a process.

You have to like, wean them into something. Yeah. Or I guess wean as the opposite. We bought them the kitty bed and he couldn't he wouldn't go in a hundred feet of it here Yeah, I think many people know about Jack who Jack by the way is joining us. Oh, hey, what's up guys? from Jack from Achievement Hunter and I'm Bernie. I'm also Jeff Achievement Hunter and Jack has two cats named Ude and Kuse

Which might be the only funny thing you've ever done. Yeah, pretty funny. Yeah, well, I got them. Okay, so we had two cats in my parents' house, and they were brother sister, and they were probably the most purebred cats, because the majority of the cats in my parents' house, they lived outside, so a lot of inbreeding going on. A lot of cats with six, seven toes. Wait, wait, wait, how many cats do your parents have? Well, I mean, like, none lived in the house at the time. They're all outdoor cats. How many hours have I got to qualification that makes it normal? Yeah, they were all over the roof. Clong at the windows. I mean, like, they were probably, I mean, they're sort of like neighborhood cats,

but I would say there's probably like eight or nine of them that kind of just like roamed around. But wait, let me see this. Did your parents feed them? Yeah, yeah. Okay, then your parents had nine outdoor cats. Okay. Wait, let me ask you this. Did your parents feed them? Yeah, yeah. Okay, then your parents had nine outdoor cats. Okay. That's right. That's how that works. But you know what? We also have no spiders and no snakes around our house too, which is pretty awesome. He got some. You got spider-hate and cats?

What's the name of this? We also did any birds or small children. But so I took these two cats and I was going to name them Ari and Uzzi from Royal Tinnemboms. Oh, okay. And literally like the week before I got these cats, Saddam Hussein's kids got killed in that one explosion or whatever, like they blew up the building they were in. Oh this was after they died.

This was like right after. So like in response to that, I named my cats Ari and Uzi. Or Ari and Uden Kusai. You know what the weird thing is too, is that Inomaj or in Ha-Haj. Well okay, so my sort of thought is, if you take something terrifying and name something really, really cute after it, it takes away that power, that name hat.

Is that why you have the Hitler mustache? Yeah, exactly. Awesome. You got the coffee shop as a business. I know it's fixing out. I like that guy too, but he's hard to talk to right now. That Hitler mustache, that's probably Hitler's biggest impact in history.

Is that, yeah, I mean, we War II is super bad in the Holocaust. That must cash, though, will never come back into stock. No, no, no. We're doing like 300 years from now. There are people, like at some point, there are people named Adolf, and it's not like a big deal. It's not, you know, really pointy. You don't see it a lot.

I know there are some dude who's known as Adolf. Yeah. Wow. And as time goes on, that will be not such a big deal at all. But just like, you know, I'm going to name my next kid, Ganges, for instance. But that must dash. That's never going to happen.

It also a fantastic internet meme. Yeah, I guess. Have you ever seen that old site? I love old sites on the internet. And it's weird that we're talking about these two topics back to back because just the other day I went and found cats that look like Hitler dot com Remember that side the Hitler was awesome site. Yeah, it's just people who post pictures of their cats that the that predates I can have cheeseburger and all the other cat sites. Yeah, that I can remember yeah for sure and it's just cats people

Who have cats that have that Hitler must have. That was back on the time of like stuff on my cat as well. Yeah, I was going to hold pile shit on their cats. Boy, you see, somehow stuff on my cat did not become, did they make a, did they get in that phase of crazy blogs to books? I think they made a book, yeah, I did. They did.

Is that over yet the blogs to book faith? I don't think so. Not until Gary V. pushes out his 10 books, right? He gets, he gets a, he gets a nine-to to go. Yeah. Why just call that an infinity book deal? You know, if you continue to sell best selling books, they're gonna keep making books for you. Did you ever see the the website stuff white people like? Yeah. That was pretty funny. They got a book deal too. I showed I showed Jack that black people white people flash video. I don't know what you'd call that. I don't know what you'd call that.

I don't know what you'd call that thing. I'll have to like that because if you're gonna listen to it and work, turn your speakers down. Not because it's easy racist, I don't even know. It's a larythian funny. It's very goofy, but it's loud. So it's safe for work. It's just too loud for work.

Well since we're talking about cats, and this is a kind of a video game podcast, what kind of podcast is this? It's a pop culture technology podcast, I think. So stuff my dad hates. The anti-Jack's dad podcast. I want to complain about something. Okay, because I went and bought modern warfare 2. Hey congrats. I did not go to the midnight launch. I don't have that in me to go to midnight launches. Sure. And left for dead two came out. I didn't even go to the midnight launch for left for dead two. I was even awake. I was up and five minutes for a game stop and I thought if I go out at 12.01 I'm gonna be up till four in the morning playing this game. That's true. Yeah. Now I'm just not gonna do it But I bought modern warfare modern warfare to the other day and I saw behind the counter

They had the modern warfare two branded throat communicate. Oh, is that what that is your holding? That's what I'm holding. And this is a device that replaces your Xbox live microphone that goes around your neck and it goes, I'll demonstrate for you. See here, it pinches onto the my side of my throat here. Okay. I probably have to think of a neck for what this is intended for. I've had to shift it like this. So this replaced it and you have a little earpiece of plugs in and bang and you've replaced your dorky big white headset. Okay. With a dorky big black throat choker. Yeah, you're wearing a choker. Stylish choker, you know, and I thought, wow, I will do anything I can to replace the horrible Xbox live voice experience that I have. It's the, aside from the fact

I just read that Xbox 360's now have a 60% chance of red ringing That's the new study they still they said that overall that's overall I think that was in the UK wasn't it and that was That was like first gen I could be wrong about that, but I glanced at that headline I've had three red ring on me I've had four but I've also had three separate boxes. I've had two arcades in a pro But I got I got to say when I have they do replace them very quickly And it's one of those weird things with me where I might this might be the limit extent of my fanboyism I don't seem to care. Yeah, same here. It's like okay. I'll just get I'll get another one I mean I think we're in the same situation. You have multiple Xboxes, right? That is true

I don't go without an extra. Yeah, see if I only had one and I lost it I would I would be shit out of luck. I mean actually When you and I were just becoming friends. I lost my 360 the week before Halo 3 came out Remember that and I had a borrow 360 from you. Yeah, yeah, that's right And I literally I was like it couldn't have been the worst timing literally the week before Halo 3 my box red ringed on me Yeah, I guess it's true. We're not typical because I have four, three, six, these in my house. It's supposed to be an office full of them. Yeah.

Yeah. But like the last time I had a red ring, my Xbox red ringed on a Saturday. So I went to the website. I went through the little deal. It takes about two seconds on the website to do. Monday, I had the box. And I got my Xbox back to the next Friday.

So it was less than a week. Well, awesome. The repair centers and McKinney Texas, which is, so we're lucky. It's just near Dallas, right? It's like, we're all, we also week. Well, also, the repair centers and McKinney Texas, which we're lucky. It's just near Dallas, right? It's like, we're all, we also have an awesome Texas Netflix shipping. It's nice.

It's pretty good. I was supposed to open up an Austin location too. I don't know if they were dead, but they were talking about it. You can drop a Netflix envelope in the mailbox at the post office. And by the time you get back to your computer, they've registered somehow that you've returned it. Yeah, I don't know how that works.

Well, don't they have like Netflix mailed drops now, like specifically for Netflix discs? Did they really? I saw a photo of that somewhere. It was like, someone who was complaining, like some other competing company was complaining that the US Postal Service is giving them a preferential treatment.

I swear to God. They kind of are, they had the thing now where you can put the barcode in the exterior window. And does that scan take place at Netflix? Or does it take place at the post office? I would assume it takes place in Netflix. I don't know who knows I if we woke up tomorrow and Netflix bought the post office that wouldn't surprise me at all I mean I just heard the Comcast is by NBC. Oh, that's the rumor right? It's true. I don't know if it's official but I apparently you ought to talk about it. Yeah, if you read the industry trades, apparently,

compass is going to happen. Comcast owns G4, E style and some other all the big network, the horror network, right? Lifestyle network. Or is that is that someone different? No, that's come. No, no, that's comecast. Yeah. Wow. So you go from owning G4 to owning NBC. Mm-hmm. Damn. Which 10 years ago would have been awesome. Yeah, NBC is still good on Thursday nights. Which 10 years ago would have been awesome. Yeah. NBC is still good on Thursday nights. Yeah, but they're just getting destroyed in the ratings. I love NBC.

Don't get me wrong. The two TV shows I watched 30 Rock and the officer on NBC. Have you watched Community? Yeah, I couldn't get into it. Really? I like Joe McHale. I like the, I like the, what's this face? The Derek Comedy Guy.

Yeah. Daniel, Daniel, Donald Glover? Daniel Glover. Daniel Glover. Yeah, I love him in die hard He's in the league to over leave the weapon eight and Billy Pesci But get it in there again, but I want to go back to my modern warfare to throat communicator Sure, I bought this thing. I'm super excited because while I can tolerate just about everything on the 360 The one thing I refuse to tolerate is the lousy quality of voice messages. If people send me voice messages on Xbox Live all day, I just don't listen to them because I don't have my headset on 24 hours a day.

And if you try to play those things over the speakers, they just sound unbelievably horrible. Yeah. And it sounds like it sounds like a tin can and not like someone talking on a tin can, but like someone shouted into a tin can and then sealed it and sent you the tin can and then you opened it to hear the message. That's what it sounds like underwater. Why is it like you would think it would be a smart thing for Microsoft to do to give you more options of what you accept and what you don't accept. I agree.

Like friends popping online. I know when we're doing achievement 100 videos, we have people pop on all the time. And it's just before I would go and sort of black out people's names, just don't know, I don't give a shit. But it's like, I wish there was an option to say. You're saying the alert appears in your videos.

Yeah, X person has signed on or whatever. I wish I could just disable that. And you can turn off alerts, which is cool, but then that turns off your achievement pops, too. Exactly. I wish I could just like, there were check, but then that turns off your achievement pops, too. Yeah, exactly. I wish I could just like, there were check boxes like what you want or what you don't want. And also like, I refuse to accept voicemail or voice messages.

I wish you could just uncheck that. And I've written it in my profile, but you ended up sounding like a dick for whatever reason. Yeah. Just send me a text. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I have to bust out my headset. I don't have my headset on when I'm playing Fable 2. Yeah, 99% of the time I play a game, I don't have my headset on when I'm playing fable 2 Yeah, 99% of the time I play a game I don't have my headset on because I look like a dickhead and my life

My life's not a nerd and her friends aren't nerds and she has all these cool chicks come over to hang out and do Whatever hot chicks do that doesn't involve me and I'll be sitting in the living room with a fucking big white goofy headset on and they go Oh, hey Jeff. What are you doing? I'm like playing modern warfare 2 hold on a second. I gotta tell my friend something It's like a fucking retard. I even when I see movies now You know how there's always that scene where someone walks through a living room And there's the two guys on the couch. They're always playing a football game usually more halo now and Sometimes they have the headset on when they have the headset on it's like you're trying too hard, you know You get it we get it. They're playing a video or like two guys sitting side-by-side with headsets on

It's like come on man. Yeah, although there's an intern on that set who's like that's not right Come on back off back off a little bit put the headsets away But there was that one funny thing in the breakup when Vince Vaughn it's yelling at a 13-year-old That was funny. That was good So I so but I busted out this throat communicator. I recorded one message with it I just was gonna send a message to you saying I got my this throat communicator. I recorded one message with it. I just was gonna send a message to you saying I got my new throat communicator and you know, you can record it

and then listen to your own message. I just, I wanna test the quality of this thing. Wow, it's like, Hey girl, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I mean, it's almost like swallowing your normal last five, my car,

I'm sorry, and I was like, and then I paid 30 bucks for this thing It's almost like swallowing your normal And then I paid 30 bucks for this thing and it comes in that hard sealed plastic shit And I think the sole purpose of that stuff is so that you feel like you can't return anything Because I took a chainsaw to the sink or I just stretched it ripped it apart So there's no way now that I can return this thing and I get I look at the package I'm like let's try to make a return it. I'm looking at the package. And I think, damn, I can't believe that Infinity Warder Xbox would put this thing out. And it's not good. What the hell? What is this? What is this here in the small tiny in the back of the package in the corner? What is this logo? Mad cats. Really? What in the, they're even hiding their own logo now

I mean you it was so tiny on the back of the package I should have brought it in so you could see it it wasn't on the front anywhere It didn't say mad cats anywhere. It doesn't say mad cats on that. No, no It's branded modern warfare to on the little volume and an MW2 on the throat part in a sense and Clearly we're not sponsored by mad cats sense and clearly we're not sponsored by mad cats. In a sense, the mad cats brand is a very valuable brand to me because when I see it I go I'm never gonna buy that whatever that thing is I'm not gonna buy it and I don't understand that Why are all the third-party accessories for consoles inherently worse? Why do they know? better accessories for consoles inherently worse. Why is there no better

Products in the PC world sure there are people who dedicate themselves to making awesome Accessories and they're better than what you can normally get and that's just not the case with consoles It's a really good question. What is a deal there? Why don't they make like a like a super Xbox 360 controller that costs 80 bucks? Yeah, like a periner one like grips on it and shit. Yeah, yeah. Like something really nice. Yeah, the pro controller. Maybe because Microsoft might go, Hey, that's great. Sell it for a few months, then we'll disable it.

So you can't do that. I guess the one thing that's like that is they make better memory cards. And then we bought a memory card that Jeff and I did. You could store up to four gigs on this thing. Oh, it was expandable to what, 16 gigs? Eight or 16, yeah. It was a lot. It would take little memory cards. It was like almost like an adapter for those small FDHC

memory cards. So as big as those got, then you could have that amount of storage on your memory card. And then in the last update, Microsoft warned everybody, we're gonna disable these things because people could use them to cheat. That's horrible. Well, in a way it is. In a way, but they have a point point. I mean it is it is a very quick and easy way to get saved games from your Xbox to your computer I guess but so but I mean like what's what's the largest memory card you can buy legal or not legally but like from micr 512 Max I've told my half a gig and it's what probably like 40 bucks, right? Bucks 50 F 40 50 bucks. Yeah, I can be right now You can go online and buy a tent like what an eight gig thumb drive for 10 bucks. And it's like, like really, I mean Microsoft, can't you,

I mean like, you know, 120 gig hard drive for Microsoft is still $100. A 512 megabyte memory card from Xbox, Microsoft, is 2,999 now. That's actually cheap. Oh, that's pretty cheap. Yeah, I would like to buy a new one actually. But you're capped.

Yeah, exactly. There's no higher capacity alternative. Yeah, and I know it like I know me and Jeff, like we move or Jeff and I, thank you. I caught myself. Jeff and I, we move around quite a bit, like from Xbox, Xbox. And so I have like recently, I've been putting everything I do on a memory card. Right. And I'm going to hit it. I'm going to hit a point where it's like, well, shit, I'm full. What am I going to do with the stuff on here? Well, it's going to be if you have a 512-night card to be fair, it's going to be a while before you hit that cap. Now, it's a Fallout 3 that did it to me.

That's not necessarily true because if I had my 16-gig card, I could have just stored my fabled DLC on that. That's true. And just walked around with it. And that would have been really cool because then I would have to download on every single question. We ran into that issue at PAX last year with the Gryffball tournament. Yes, remember that? Yeah, because we had to we had to download like the

What the the pack or whatever for matte packs the matte packs another great example We're too big to fit on to a memory card and those like but it was like 10 megs off It was like yeah, we almost got it on but we didn't have to download it to hard drive so Yeah, I mean, yes, you know DLC is clearly the future of this platform and if that's the case You know they're doing games on demand. There's got to be a better mobile solution for your first party memory I agree or higher capacity when let's put it that way speaking of DLC. They also need to make black ones Yeah, no kidding I'm speaking of DLC. When is there gonna be more fable to DLC? I am addicted to that game. You guys love that. I don't know how it happened

I love it. You took a very Bernie path of that. I did. I did. You talked about how much you disliked it or you were disappointed by it Put your wife was playing it so you sat there and watched it then you played it a little bit And it was still just repetitive and then click you love it. Yeah, it hit me all at once Like it hit in the face of the baseball bat of fun. It was just like I like had a turn and on me, I was like, wait a minute, I'm in love with this game. And you know what else I want? I want a video game. I decided last night that is purely real estate management. That's the most fun I have in that game. It is. It is. That's some city, right? No, it's different. See, in this you can buy, in fabled to, you can buy property. And you can buy stores and bars and hotels. You can rent out houses

basically. Assassin's Creed 2 has a little bit of that and you can raise and lower your rent and stuff. It's pretty rudimentary but at the possibilities are endless. The cool thing about it is that when you turn off the game the money still generates. Oh wow. So if you're thinking about Fable 2 go ahead and either rent it or download the first episode buy a couple houses then just leave the game off for three months. Oh, it's so great. So have all the gold you'll need. Oh, it's so great.

We finally hit that threshold last night where we're making enough, we own enough property, where like every minute we're making like three or four grand. And it's just like, it's fantastic. It's the best thing every 10 minutes you're like, oh, I can buy a new house now. This is how the real life should work. You know, there is that old thing to do that people say if you had to cut a check for your taxes, if they didn't withhold it, and you actually saw what was going out, you had to write that check. Everyone would be, they say,

everyone would be a Republican day one. Right. And you can see that in favor, like you'll see this tick, like all of a sudden over your head will appear. For me, it's now 12,000 gold. Ding, you know, I just get 12,000 gold from my rental properties. Then you start getting hit for all the stuff, all your expenses too. And you can see this coming through. Mostly it's families and kids. It feels like Alamoni in a way. I always do it's complaining about their Alamoni that they pay their child support. It seems like that, I don't have that in my life. I mean, my wife just takes all my life. I check it out. So I don't see it.

NASCAR checks. Yeah, but, uh, but you see the tick, like, minus 100 gold for this family. And then of course, in favor of you have multiple families. So like, minus 100, minus 150, you know, God damn, here it goes. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Then you go to the bar and have a beer, watching your money go away.

You go to your bar, you know, have a beer. And me and my nice girl start another family. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I did feel kind of weird though. I looked last night at about 11.30. I started playing with my wife. And I looked at my friends this, though, 27 people on.

And it was like, I don't know, 18 people playing Modern Warfare 2. And then the rest playing Left For Dead. And then Jeff playing two-year-old fabled two. I didn't care at all. Yeah, no, I was having a blast. I was playing Fable 2 while everyone else was playing Modern Warfare as well. But you guys finished all that. Uh, not even close.

Like, okay, so we've put out 21 Modern Warfare 2 videos as of right now. They're doing really, really well. And, um, but this week we had Left For Dead 2 and Assassin's Creed 2 hit. And so Jeff and I have split up. I'm doing the Assassin's Creed 2. He's doing Left For Dead 2. And ultimately, we for dead to and ultimately we're gonna kind of Regroup and keep working on. Yeah, we've got another another 12 model or four videos we can do so you've been playing left for dead You said it's the new one is extremely hard in conversion to left for dead one dude. It's unbelievable Andrew panton and I sat down yesterday Andrew panton from the site who is like the world's best left for dead player from what I can tell

He's a world best player. Yeah, they do just great at everything But he's really good at left for dead. That's like his thing and he and I sat down to do this garden gnome achievement Which is it's kind of like a nomage to the half-life to orange box achievement where you have to take You episode to take the gnome from the start of the game to the end You have to pick it up at the second chapter of dark carnival and just take him to the helicopter at the end of the art carnival And we're like playing a regular which is like you spit it is on me and it dies on regular and we're like yeah, no problem It took us probably three hours. Jesus and we probably wiped I'm gonna guess five times. I can't believe how hard that game is it's it's tremendously difficult It used to be like we were talking about this like now if somebody sets off a car alarm

I might drive to their house to kill them because before somebody set up a car alarm and a horn comes and you're like Okay, I'll knock out these 15 zombies. Let's fight through this The hoards don't stop like they'll be a break of like 10 seconds for you to try and heal or do some adrenaline And then it's just like it's constant. I had a we had a point on the fourth chapter of Dark Carnival where we just had a constant Horde of zombies and we just had to slowly work our way through it. I put it in a video. I had six straight hordes coming and like you Blow you blow through me like whoo that was what the fuck and they be coming again and it just never ended and the hordes are like Three times as big as they used to be and it's just and they have the fucking clowns to come at you and they're like hey used to be and it's just and and they have the fucking clowns that come at you and they're like, hey, Zobby's follow me. It's fucking it's a night. I was a whistle by the way. I was a lame whistle.

No, he was just I wasn't of a whistle. I wasn't prepared to whistle. So he hadn't stretched the warm up. So at what point do you get Abigail Brezlin and that that chick from Super bad when are they show up? I don't know what you're talking about. Really? He's so much zombie land. Oh, I haven't seen it. I'm sorry. I saw zombie land with Matt the other night. And he said, wow, I wonder if anybody feels that left for dead too.

These obviously were developed at the same time. But the fact there's a clown zombie spoiler in a zombie land. There's just a spoiler before you say what the spoiler is. The zombie land has been out for a month. That's true. A month, two months. Yeah. You know, two months. Yeah.

You know, the fact that the clowns figure in the Zambielan and then they go to an amusement park spoiler and they do the same thing in Leopard 2. He was asking about that. I was telling him I saw a premiere here in Austin and the director was there and they said they've been developing the script like eight years. So I don't know that I mean, I'm sure those just pure coincidence or something was on me like they come out before a little too Deconcly to yeah, that's true. Yeah, but how many settings can you put zombies in though? I mean eventually you're gonna have overlap right well people are scared of clowns underwater zombies. They're earning underwater zombies Yeah, Luccio full cheese movie zombie zombie with an eye. Yeah. That's the shark versus zombie scene, right? Yep.

Yep. Have you seen that Bernie? I have seen that. Oh my god. That's a big thumb video right there. Yeah, when the zombie fights the shark. That's awesome. The 30 seconds of good film in that movie.

You watch. You know, I had seen that movie on video store shelves for years with the rotting zombie face and all that. And I just couldn't bring myself to ever watch it. Never. It's actually pretty boring moving. I would imagine so. I think I might have it on DVD. I think I bought it like in 97 when DVDs first came out.

It was one of the first DVDs I saw. I could have sworn there was a Italian version of Don of the Dead where they essentially just ripped it off back in the days when the world wasn't interconnected. Well, they did that for a bunch of movies, right? Like the Draft House had a whole series of like Indian Superman or Indian spider-man all the Turkish movies too yeah Turkish Star Wars Turkish Wizard of Oz we just got in the mail we just got our Iraqi bootleg red versus blue box set one of the guys who was stationed over in Iraq bought the red

versus blue box set and it's the Iraqi bootleg edition and has an unreal tournament image on the cover. Jeff, can you read the summary on the back of the box set? I'm going to read the summary. This is what the box set of Red vs Blue is all about. If you want it to be enticed and I racked by this, it's one of the most talked about user created video of a video game. Red vs. Blue gives viewers a new take on the Halo universe and R vs B creators talk to Martin about their internet fad.

Kevin reveals some secrets on PC password hacks as well as part 2 of his spurts program. And that's S-P-E-R-T-S. spurts program. So we don't know Kevin and Martin are but you know we really appreciate that making them worse than we would and also letting us know all about spurts. What is supposed to be spurts? Spurts maybe? I don't know. Spurts? Is that what our spurts program? I'm not really sure. I don't think I want to know. Well I also just got a in my personal comments on the site someone also just wrote to congratulate me on getting our box set

in Libya and he sent me a picture of it. Oh wow really? It's a complete seasons one through five. It is available in three languages English, Spanish and French. I would love to hear. Yeah, that'd be awesome. What is the Lopez stuff? South like in Spanish. Is it English? I'd be great. It's a good question, Spanish. Lopez is stuck in the English setting. And it's a reverse blue. It's distributed by Warner Brothers, apparently. And Libya. So, Warner Brothers Libya?

Well, that's really great. So happy. So happy. Hey. And that was Mad Men Mode that sent that to me. Did you guys see or have you used it all that Facebook has come? And Twitter has come to Xbox 360? I signed up for the Twitter thing. I sent one message and I was like, well, I don't have a used it all that Facebook has come and Twitter has come to Xbox 360? I signed up for the Twitter thing. I said one message and I was like, well, I don't have a chat pad on this controller. I'm done

Yeah, I was pretty much it. I got in that early program and I I loaded them both once to show them around the office and to say Oh, this is kind of cool. And then that's it I'll never visit those two sections of my Xbox live again I've also stopped using Facebook my my aunt added me to Facebook, and then a week later, my dad and mom sent me a request, and I was like, yep, done with Facebook. Yeah, I bet. Wow, speaking of your aunt adding you to Facebook,

I found out last week that my mom listens to the podcast. Oh, yeah, no kidding. She was not, yeah. After all this stuff about Jeff's youth, it's going to be an interesting Christmas. have you talked to her since the podcast briefly Well, I think we all only time to cool off. Yeah, thanksgiving should be fun, right? Yeah, well It's like as I always told her growing up when I would do something dumb and get caught in it that she gave birth to me and

Parented me through life. Therefore is ultimately responsible. So any bad decision I made just reflects poorly on her as a parent. When do you think that the fascination with boners hit for you? Like what? What? What? Oh God, I don't know. That's a great question. I was somewhere somewhere in my 20s, I think. I was helping my father set up his new I'm. My dad, I wanted to bring him into the current decade of computing and so I went to North Carolina where my dad lives and got him an iMac and we set it up so he could video conference with us and talk to my son, the kids because Jack uses his video conferencing, talks to me at work all the time, asks me how to get past the level on Indiana Jones. It shows you Legos. Yeah it shows me Legos that he's made for the day and so I thought it's gonna be great to get my dad to do that as well

So we set it up. I'm not kidding There were files on his computer from 1996 Wow, and I had to go to him say are you gonna use this ever? You know this is this is important to you because archiving all of this stuff and organizing it one of my favorite things in the world To do is organize files Like our raid and make or you would not for that one of your other favorite things to do is get files. It's like our raid and make Organs. Oh, you would nuts for that. One of your other favorite things to do is get mad when people touch your archives. Absolutely, man.

When people mess with my archives and backups, one of the reasons why I bought a Mac laptop is one person after fighting Mac for years and years, someone showed me time machine and I said, I'm done. That's it. You know, this thing backs up on a tone and does everything that I do all the time anyway fell in love with it. Anyway, so I'm setting up my dad's video conferencing and I wanted to set it up in a way that would be very easy for him to do like hit a button to accept and all that. So in order to test this I connect to Jeff back at the office because I'm in North Carolina. It's like hey Jeff you're on right and he said yeah I'm here. I said hey can you help me test my video conferencing really quick really quick is yeah, I don't have a camera, but I can hear your audio

I said that's great So I hit connect and one of the things I set up was that it announces in that Mac voice when somebody connects so my dad will know That it's even connected properly. Are you about to give a Jeff's a name away? Yes, you can give the second part of the way I will I won't tell you the first part, but let's just say magnificent, okay? So I hit connect and it said Magnificent boner has connected. And Jim, all he hears from our end is my wife go, oh, well, that's nice. And she said, oh my God.

So my dad and his wife are crowded on this computer, my senior citizen father. And then we have this magnificent boner has connected. And you're in his history now forever. One of his recent buddies is magnificent boner. Which by the way, I'm sure there is a magnificent boner on aim. It is not Jeff. Yeah, my name is actually much more clever than magnificent boner.

More of a mediocre boner. But it is dot, dot, dot boner. It is something, something boner. It is one of the varieties of boner, which in every computer periphery, or peripheral I have has something boner. That is true. That is true. It's been a lot of Mexican food lately, like my hard drive is called nachos.

I think my, my time machine is called taco salad. Yeah. I don't know why. My iPhone is boner pod. Jesus. Yeah, it also shows up in our share list. Yeah, it does. Like your iTunes library shows up.

So hey, look, here's Boners iTunes library. Want to connect to that and listen to some of that boner music. So you were telling me that Xbox Live this week that Call of Duty is three of the top four titles. Yeah, dude, they on Major Nelson's list yesterday, posted that on the week of November 9th, this is crazy. I anticipated this happening,

but I didn't think they would get in the top five. I figured you'd see three in the top 10. I would think that that Modern Warfare 2 would just destroy, you know, take all the users from the other two games, but, right, number one, obviously, Modern Warfare 2. Number two was still Call of Duty 4. Number three was Halo 3, and number four was World of War.

I can't believe it's three of the top four titles Well, you know what that says to me if Call of Duty 4 is number two. What's that? That says the boycotts working You've seen those images right? Yeah, it's like the list of people playing yeah It's what Jack is talking about. There's groups. I guess on some PC I think Neil Gaffer something like that something like that I know it is so much PC sites where you can sign up and make groups. And there's a left or two way. I'm getting one of my boycott groups mixed up.

It's a modern warfare two boycott group because they were upset because the PC version of modern warfare two does not allow dedicated servers. And you have to go through infinity water whoever they use. And in that group, the day of launch, they had the list of all the users. And% of them were playing modern-ware for warfare too Yeah, and I saw them digging the title was guys. This is why they don't take video games boycats seriously. Yeah, it was your all-playing pretty fucking funny

And the funny thing is You know that none of those people would be ashamed of that no they wouldn't even see it they would say well I want to play it. What am I gonna do? Yeah, I mean mean, hey, I mean, it's like, what am I going to do? Not play the game. Everyone else is playing it. And fuck, I'm going to be the one guy that doesn't play it. What am I going to do? Stick to my guns. What am I going to do? Have some integrity? I like that all the guys sound the same. Yeah. We all went to that accent. That's the, well, you know, there's two voices. There's that. And there's the 13 year old voice, which I can't do anymore. So, it's that guy. There's that and there's the 13 year old voice which I can't do anymore So it's that guy again news for you do it every day

Voice god damn it I met an interesting modern warfare thing with Xbox live not only was it three of the top four But for the first time in history last week Xbox live hit two million concurrent users Which is it isn't an impressive feat? But but I think what you're gonna say is you I would have thought they would have hit that a long time ago, I'm a 20 million users. I'm surprised to hear that that's But it's still it's still on 10% of people that use Xbox Live worldwide were on at the same time I guess that's pretty impressive They had a big party at Microsoft a major Nelson posted some Twitter photos of it

They were all play a model refer to on the Xbox but not on the PlayStation I mean it's because their servers crashed. Oh, yeah, I heard about that. Yeah, because they don't maintain their own servers $50 a year's bullshit. What are you talking about? Yeah, like why would I pay $50 a year for Xbox lives? That's what I could do on the PlayStation for free. That's gone down what twice in the past five years I think yeah, or seven years. years well there's been instances two of games launching on the 360 and being broken for whatever reason battlefield 1943 was busted for a day and a half yeah that's true and that they only sold a million copies of that game so they couldn't keep up the demand and they couldn't keep up with that demand and so what was the problem there was the

problem yeah was the problem Xbox live I don't I don't't have to. I'm sure it's a little both. I'm sure, you know, if you're a company about to release a big multiplayer game like that, you've got a prep or you've got to be like, you know, working with Microsoft to make sure you have enough servers or bandwidth or whatever, right? I mean, I know that Xbox has a very stringent certification process.

Yeah, at least for the case. Yes, yes, I've been in that process. Have you really, when you worked in the, I worked, yeah, when I worked for Aspire, I can say the name. We did Supreme Commander, and I just sit there and watch them go back and forth. So, Supreme Commander, it was a PC port, and it was a very, very processor intensive game. So, we kept running into frame rate issues, and Microsoft kept sending it back to us, been like, all right, no, fix this, and it was huge pain in the ass, but...

No, but it's good. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and Microsoft doesn't even have that weird like Microsoft certified seal approval that Nintendo has Which apparently means nothing well the quality symbol thing Microsoft are Nintendo stop doing that a while ago Oh did they really seal of quality good? I don't think they're I don't think they can anymore Yeah, no one knows what that means because the Hasbro party games or whatever you're not gonna put it on that right just we has Some of the I mean they just garbage titles. I mean just just you put it in you play it's like what am I who who looked This game and wanted to make this available, but didn't you see something like extraction

Which is a fantastic game and it is horrible on the wing dead space extraction? Yeah, that's based extraction Because nobody's gonna that game is not for we gamers, you know They want to play like my pretty pony and shit like that because it's a toy They don't want to play scary horror games. Yeah, it's a wrong market the problem is come now is that if there's a cross-platform game And you really want to play it? You're probably not gonna buy it for the Wii now absolutely no if you're given the choice I think a lot of people own the Wii and something else at this point. Yeah, absolutely Maybe you should see like what's the subset of Wii owners

that also have another platform? We should make a poll. I'm sure that would be accurate. I mean, I mean, beyond, I mean, I own all three systems, but I mean, my assumption would be the majority people would own a 316 a Wii that have more than one system. Just a numbers alone, probably, right?

Probably. Because there's more 360s on the market, and everyone has a Wii, I think. I've been told recently about my wife that we are buying a we why well I vowed to never own one borrowy. Yeah, right borrowy. Well, I guess I had another but I guess my wife was a real big fan Of a boy and his blob growing up and we making it for the we and she found out about that and she's latched on to it So she really really really wants to play it on the Wii I was a big fan of crazy climber growing up I really old arcade games and I saw they made of Japanese We version of that and I could import it. Just not gonna do it now

No, well, they've got that like the arcade thing or what is it called on the Wii like the version of Xbox live arcade or PSN? I forget what that is called, but yeah, I know what you're talking about Yeah, and they've got quite a few games in there. A lot of old classic arcade stuff too. You get like Super Mario. Yeah, you got all the Mario's. A lot of Sega stuff in there too, I think. Yeah, although you can get a lot of Sega games on Xbox Live and R2. That's true. You've got like 12 Sega games. Which I mean, like as being a gamer my whole life, like playing any Sonic game on an Nintendo system is still weird to this day. Really? Yeah, it is weird. I remember it because I remember back in the day,

it was you know what, Genesis have what an inton don't. Remember that? It's clever. No. I don't know. Welcome to the next level. Yeah, I was a, I was a,

I was a Sega kid growing up. Yeah, I was a new kid. Well, you didn't have the luxury in my neighborhood of affording those. So I was like, one kid would be like, I'll get the Nintendo, you get to say it and then we'll have everything and so that's what we did But I I had a master system in a genesis You know and we talked about the failure rate of 360s and how that doesn't seem to really we don't seem to really care about that

And it doesn't seem to have had a major impact other than this cultural thing about the red ring Then in Tendo entertainment, which everybody had. Did anyone have one that didn't fail eventually? No. And it's become over time, it's become this kind of kitchy cultural touchstone for everyone. Hey, blow on the controller, that's funny and cute. They have t-shirts of it. When you were trying to play the game and you were trying to get it to just work,

that wasn't funny and cute at the time. No, dude, you could spend 45 minutes trying to get Zelda to work. And you would do it and it's your weekend and you would do it. You know, and you'd be like, my bed time is in an hour now. What the fuck? What am I going to do? You'd be screaming and too much. If you ever get like the alcohol swabs, there's like you get alcohol,

a dip a Q tip and like wipe the little connectors and stuff. Like we were intense about it man. And everybody did it. Everybody knows what you're talking about. Everyone had their own technique too. Right. It was like blow on it then you pushed in and pop it up, pushed it in, pop it up, pushed in, power power power and then it would work. You know, like everyone had their own sort of specific thing. And imagine if you had to do that with a 360 if you had to like, oh I got the red ring so I'm gonna spend the next 45 minutes like pushing the tray in now in the house.

Something like like like I'm gonna wrap it in the towel. But it does go to show, there's not a long lasting negative impact for the Nintendo brand because everybody's NES failed. Everybody's. It was probably the first failed product that most kids had or most people that their lives had where I had an Nintendo and worked for a year and then suddenly go figure. The spring loaded mechanism to hold the context together just suddenly failed.

Do you think that's why Windows did so well, even with all the failures and crashes, people were to sort of used to working with like Nintendo's and having that sort of basic failure at all times that it's got used to it? No, I just think you can't, I don't think you can come up with a piece of technology. It doesn't have some kind of problem. I mean there's problems with technology. It's like I'm growing up, I didn't know a single person who owned a Atari that had a joystick with the rubber thing still on it. Everybody play on the white part because it ripped off after three weeks.

They laid a cat along and he'll pull him in their hand. What was it that gave me played a lot as a gint? Oh, the Atari. On the Atari? What was Laser Blast was my game. I mean, that, it's funny. I just had this conversation with Griffin the other day. I had to show him Laser Blast videos.

That was it. Laser Blast, yeah, Laser Blast in my game. I mean that it's funny. I just had this conversation with Griffin the other day I had to show her laser blast videos that was it laser blast Yeah, laser blast and combat were that's all I you actually complained about fabled to being repetitive When laser blast let me describe this game laser blast is you're a yellow saucer. Yes, space ship saucer Yeah, and you have a laser gun and you can shoot down and diagonal and diagonal directions. You did good to the left. And you're floating in the sky and then there's green quote unquote grass, which is just blocks of pixels on the bottom of the screen. And on the grass are three tanks. Yeah. And they're shooting at you. You shoot the three tanks. One hit and you kill them and they blow up. Then when you shoot those three tanks, one hit and you kill them and they blow up. Then when you shoot those three tanks, the screen scrolls to the left

and the three more tanks. Yeah. And you just repeat that until you're dead. For two or three hours. Just get more difficult, or is it always that... It's horrible. Sure, it's a little, like they move a little... Well, they don't move, nobody moves, but...

They can react faster and stuff. Yeah, but it just... Eventually you hit the threshold. It's like one time when I was a kid, and I had my master system, I wanted to see how long I could play hang on. And I played hang on for six hours. Jesus.

Just the same, like after you beat the game, it just loops and you just go and go and go. And it just like never ends. And then they didn't bother me at all. If my kid played laser blast today and wanted to keep playing for more than five minutes, I would be concerned. I would have sort of like, yeah, no, no, it's like you've been playing laser blast for an hour. You realize it's just those three tanks, right? You're just going to shoot those three tanks.

There was people turning like rainman or something like that. And you probably played a 60, 70 hour. Yeah, it's fun. I it got there was like a I don't remember what the magazine was but there was a thing where you could like post your high score and send it in and I had my mom take a picture of me next to my high score. I wish I remember what it was or if I had the photo and we mailed it in it was 50. I never heard anything back but I had the I had a higher high score than any I had seen published and I was I would go to mailbox every day after school and be like is today the day I get certified have you ever been ever have you been

to the Twin Galaxy's website the sort of the official high score keepers on the internet of the lower K games and stuff. If you look at some of those scores there I've beaten some of those scores but I guess you have to have a judge or whatever to watch you. Yeah like I was looking I have a Tron machine like a full upright stand up Tron machine our K game and I was looking at the scores andon machine like a full upright stand-up Tron machine arcade game and I was looking at the scores and like with literally thin like 20 minutes of playing I beat one of like their top five scores really yeah I was like oh well, I mean like the first one was like so far ahead of anyone else But it's like yeah, I don't know if like people are shooting videos of this or what why don't you go there and do that then for

In sheetman go you get to go to the gate the arcade and play there there right? It's the arcade of it's in the northeast right? Where was that place at? It's in King of the Pond. I think it was in Florida. No, no, there's one in Hollywood of Florida. That's the one near Billy what's his name? Yeah, the Billy bad hair guy. The awesome tie. The US guy. Billy, Billy, Billy Zane, right? That's it. Billy Zane. Sure, why not? Billy Mitchell. Billy Mitchell. That's what guy. Billy, not Billy, Billy Zane, right? That's it, Billy Zane. Sure, why not? Billy Mitchell. Billy Mitchell, that's what it was.

So anyway, what were you saying? Why don't you go there and then? I was watching, I was looking at you doing website stuff. I'm looking at the location of the twin galaxies arcane. Well, they don't really have, there's not an official arcade, but there's like one location they go every year and it's like, you can set a high score here.

And that's where, what's his name? Steve Weebie, he got the kill screen the kill screen and everyone's walked around like in that guy was like oh we're about to have a kill screen about to have a kill screen what Jack what Jack is referencing is the King of Kong which is one of the best documentaries ever fascinating I'm pretty sure you can get on Netflix streaming right I that's how I'm right yeah yeah you should absolutely watch it it's a story about a guy Steve Weebie who is trying to set the record for the high score in Donkey Kong. And there's a guy who has the current high score, his name is Billy

Mitchell. He's probably unintentionally one of the best villains in a movie. Absolutely. Absolutely. And it's just great. These guys who take video game scores very seriously. It's very, very funny. It's one of the most heartwarming documentaries I've ever seen. Like by the end of it, it's like you, this guy is one of the best guys in the world. And I've actually had the chance to meet him a few times since then. He's come to the Draft House before for a screening, and I saw him at E3. E3 probably. Yeah, actually, this past E3, G4 had a bit where he was there trying to set the new Donkey

Kong World record. Walter Day, who's the guy who runs Twin Galaxy,, he was there and his reps outfitting everything. And I saw in person Steve Weebie get to the kill screen in Donkey Kong, which was awesome. But he didn't break the record. He didn't break the record, but he still like, how many kill screeners have been done in front of people, like maybe three or four ever in Donkey Kong? Yeah. What is so about kill screen is the old games, they would run out of memory at a certain

point and they could no longer handle the score and it would kill screen. It's not a score thing. It's more like a level. No, it's basically like the game sort of overflows information. I don't know what it is exactly. Basically, you take five steps forward and then your character dies. It locks up. Yeah.

And so, I got to see that in person. And he got close to the record. It was like, I think it was like the fourth highest Donkey Kong score ever Which he's got like one in three or no? He's got two in three because Billy Mitchell still has the high score really does yeah, he retook it He took it live too Yeah, it's a big deal whether it's live or taped or something like that Yeah, and they have to make sure the machine like they have this whole rigorous process of like if this has been a tampered machine or whatever

She'll watch the movie. Yeah watch the movie I'll explain. It's fantastic. It's called King of Kong. We highly recommended. Yeah. And you know when we talk about that kind of stuff of how you would get high scores and video games and arcades we didn't have the internet back then either.

No. So there was no way to communicate that. And when I think about we talked about Nintendo's breaking that was another thing where every kid knew to blow on the cartridge. Every kid in America knew that. when I think about we talked about Nintendo's breaking, that was another thing where every kid knew to blow on the cartridge. Every kid in America knew that. And how did that information spread? I guess word of mouth, right?

It's like there were never kids in Boston who just said, yeah, all our Nintendo's broke and we didn't know what to do. It's like, dude, you just blow on it. And that's it. And you'll fix it. You have to blow it up for 45 minutes, but that works. They had to wait for somebody's cousin

to come visit for the summer to find out. And that's how information spread I wonder there be it's lost a history But I wonder how long it took that information to spread it was like patient zero that was the first Like like I'm gonna blow this thing and then oh shit and then spread it to his friend and you know that there's some 28 year old Dude somewhere who says that was me. I was the first blower. I was the originator and then the other thing Jeff talked about too with laser blast was an activation game. Yeah, I was activation that brain has been around forever Another good example. They were a third party developer for Atari all the other games that came out were Atari games

And then suddenly there was another developer called Activision. Yeah, and the cartridges looked cooler Do you remember that? Yeah, they look better and they were better games Can you name the other big third party Atari developer? Oh was it Was it trade west it was they may I remember tend to Nintendo it was magic. Oh magic. Yeah The demon battle well the Activision spawned from Atari, right? It was like a bunch of developers Right, and programmers who left Atari to make their own company. I believe so And you know the Atari brand that even that's around today. That's not the real Atari. No, that's not Bushnell's company, right? Bushnell created Atari that was info grames that bought them Yeah, they just bought the name and just started using the Atari game again

Which is kind of cool to see around but I didn't know they had that that happened. What properties do they still have left? Atari Atari I think that's 500 right did they but I didn't know that that happened. What properties do they still have left? It's hard. Tari? I think it's spy hunter, right? Did they do Shinobi? Or was that? No, Shinobi was Sega. I guess.

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You can probably wonder what the hell HB is. HB is a grocery store here in Austin, like Kroger or Ralph's or Alpersons or QFC. QFC, where's that? I have to see Adel. What are they in Canada like that? You know? I think they just hunt their own food up there. Yeah. What you're talking about though is something that we actually mentioned earlier we had a conversation about in that era of arcade games. As a kid, you knew you had a map in your head where every arcade game was.

Absolutely. And you knew if I go to this mall, they'll have those games in the game room there in the arcade. There's a Ninja Turtles, the Mr. Gatties. If the pizza place were clean. They always had the four player ones, the pizza places. I knew how far it was to bike the certain places, and you'd have to get up with your friends on a Saturday morning and say, how bad do we really want to play off road? Do we really want to ride our bikes 15 months?

Yeah, okay, let's do it. Let's go. I had four hours. I had four buddies, we would get on our dirt bikes, and we would go play cyberball at this one convenience store all the time. And that was everything, too. Convenient stores had video games.

Yeah. It was a dedicated part of every convenience store where they would have video games. I can't recall the last time I walked into convenience store and saw a video game in there. I spent so much time in our local convenience store because they had a rostone. Some convenience stores had had dedicated rooms of three or four games. Did you ever have convenience stores around you like that? Yeah. And you know, it's interesting about that is those have been you see that a lot in the southeast

like in North Carolina, South Carolina, those areas and those have all been retrofitted now to be gambling stations. Yeah, they have gaming. They have 24 hour gaming rooms now and they just basically moved all the arcade games out and put in like slot machines. By the way, I play the gaming stuff and fable too. You want to kill yourself. I did one thing in there where I had to win. I thought I had to play pub games to get the dog flip, I played the gaming stuff in Fable 2. You want to kill yourself. Ugh. I did one thing in there where I had to win. I thought I had to play pub games to get the dog flip, I think. And I think it was actually the hat head and mustache or whatever the hell it is to get that. But it was the same thing.

We're talking about the same thing here. I had to win a, I forget what the name of the game is in what they call it, the little variant in Fable 2. But essentially, I had to win a slots tournament, which is just pressing A over and over again until you win. And that was so freaking frustrating. And then I come to find out that I didn't even need

to do it. Yeah, how do you get that NADLC just easily? Like right away. Yeah, the second DLC, you talk to a guy, and he just gives you the stuff that you had to work for. It's just like work craft, right? You work your ass off to get this armor or whatever it is and Gus isn't here to talk about it. And then the moment the new expansion comes out, everything you get, like that a bear drops, a bear happens to have a helmet. That's worth

10 times what your best helmet was in the previous game, right? It's not the experience you'll have. No, absolutely true. That's absolutely true. Yeah. Like people would like spend, you know, weeks running through like RFC to get some tier or whatever gear it was back then, like tier 5 gear, I guess. And then the expansion comes down. It's all worthless. And you can pick up green drops that are better than it. I actually killed a rabbit that had tier 8 armor. Hey, speaking of that, I have a one quick, fabled two related question, and you can cut this out of the podcast if it's too boring.

But the demon door that needs cheese is there's no way to short-cut that, right? I just have to go through and do the shitty process of going and collecting all the clothes and getting back out. Yeah, but you should ask him before you try to get the clothes. Yeah. Because if you get the clothes and the hint guy, he's too smart for you. No, he'll just say, he'll see what you're wearing and say, I want other stuff. Yeah, yeah. He's got like a second set of clothes. Yeah, I just asked him first. I made that mistake. I have no idea what you guys

We're talking about in fabled to you. There's these doors. It's actually very cool It's something like how to labyrinth you've seen labyrinth. Of course. I've seen where Connolly so hot. There's these stone doors 15 so hot. That's terrible We'll talk about them come back to the same okay, but the even door they have these faces They almost look like stone Zeus faces with the long flowing hair does one tell the truth of one lies No, but they come they come alive and that face comes out in 3d And it's a very cool effect It's one of the cooler things in fable even though it's not a bigger part of the game, but it's a

I it was fun. You have to dumb shit They basically you open you they open it up and then there's like another tiny map and that map There's a present in for you and it's one of those things where I don't know if you noticed this but that's one of the achievements opening all the demon doors. There's eight of these things. There's a 9 of them all across the fabled landscape. And that's one of the things that was originally not an achievement in the game. And in the, it's part of the DLC.

Oh, it's a DLC. It's DLC. It's a DLC achievement. And that just makes sense, you know. There's always stuff in games I'm surprised why isn't this an achievement right collecting all these things are doing all of these things And sometimes games just don't put that in that where you just do everything else and you get achievements for little stuff Like annoying abandoned or yelling it a guy. There's an achievement in a set I'm playing Assassin's Creed 2 right now and I first looking at the achievement list

It didn't look like there was gonna be any collectibles as far as like in the first one was all the flags, right? So in this one, there are feathers that are hidden throughout the world. But there's no achievements tied to getting all 100 feathers and turns out after you get the 100 feathers, you get a cape. And there's achievements tied to that cape.

Yeah. So it's like you have to get all the feathers to get the cape to get the achievement So it's like yep, but as well as go ahead and say hey, you have all the feathers. Well, yeah Legend was like that too with some stuff like they were collectible You had to get in the game that you didn't need but you needed to get a hundred percent achievement. Yeah, yeah, so But oh god, so well anyway, I'm making new maps. Hey Since we're just talking about religion this goes back to the game I didn't play, I didn't play Brutal Legends because I just kind of missed it. And I will play it, I'm sure eventually.

But Borderlands, and you were telling me that Borderlands is now the fastest-selling IP of the year, that's what they Gearbox announced, yeah. I think it did something like 450,000 units in the first week, which is pretty impressive for a new IP. But also, you forget about that, that like, I started thinking, well that can't be true because of, how the fuck, can you name new IP? I can name two. I can name two new IP games this year that were big deal.

In other words, everything's a sequel. Everything is a sequel. Or adapt that. I can't think of anything. Prototype? Well, I can think of three. Prototype, brutal legend, and I think infamous for the PS3 was a new IP as well.

And that's it. That's all I can remember playing this year that won sequels. Man. I mean, hell look we're playing I'm playing Leffer dead too right now. He's playing Assassin's Creed too right now. And like playing Fable 2.

Lego Indiana Jones. You're playing Indiana Jones too. I just played ODST. Just played ODST. Modern Warfare 2 just came out. Yeah. Mass Effect 2 is on the way. BioShock 2 is on the way.

It's all sequels. Yeah. That's really, really interesting. You know, the modern warfare 2 boycott, it's funny because the PC gamers are getting even more livid. Have you heard about some of the error screens that come up on modern warfare 2? No. There's an error screen that comes up if your playlist is out of date and it literally says your playlist data is older than the host.

Restart the game or connect to Xbox Live in order to get me a playlist data. Oops. So, dear PC gamer, fuck you. Yeah, and I guess the complaint is that the PC version is now a port of the console version. Well, that's the way the world's going though. It certainly isn't it wasn't for Blizzard. PC gaming would be totally dead. You have to put in valve.

They're those. Oh, I'm you have to put in valve there though Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah, steam is a big deal. Yeah, and But yeah, no if it wasn't for like really it's Blizzard and Valve right if you're a PC game or you play Blizzard and Valve games Yeah, that is correct. We just want to obviously world of work craft but yeah discounting MMOs because you know That's a whole separate thing Like what are people excited about Diablo is coming out, Starcraft is coming out, and anything else? Well, I'm only thinking of MMOs. Some day Half Life episode 3 will come out. Yeah, Starcraft. Yeah, I can't really can't think of anything else. The cool thing about PCs is now the casual

gaming thing is getting huge on the PCs. Although iPhone is going to take that away from PCs. Yeah. Because iPhone is just, it's a cool platform for casual gaming. I mean, I haven't played a computer, I haven't played a game on my computer in years until I picked up Wow. I literally, I like sitting on my couch and playing games with a nice surround sound at a comfortable area. I played left for dead to that valve on PCs and these were obviously very nice PCs to play them on.

That was, it looked like an almost like an entirely different game. It was gorgeous, isn't it? Yeah, Jack and I got to play it as well at that, at this MS event we went to. Beautiful. I just can't bring myself to get back into buying PCs for gaming. You know, it's just too much to keep up with and too much money. You're gonna pay more for the video card than you would for an Xbox. Yeah. And then that video card's gonna be great for about eight months.

And hopefully it works for every game. Yeah, and then that video card is gonna be great for about eight months and hopefully it works for every game Yeah, and hopefully it works for every game I still like when I was a big when I was first really got into wow I had the most trouble with Nvidia cards on my PCs and wow like they went over he they would go through all these problems I was constantly fighting these two Nvidia cards I had and there was just no support no help anywhere I mean for the price when nice gaming PC you can buy a 360 and an LCD TV. Yeah. Like a really nice TV.

And you get a lot of different stuff on it too. Yeah, you can also get a new user team for what. And you can rent video games. For sure. That is true. That is true. You can go play any game in the world for a week for $5. And you know, it is a, for gaming, it is a nice, you put it in, you know, it's going

to work. And you're going to have with Xbox Live, you're going to have a, for gaming, it is a nice, you put it in, you know, it's going to work. And you're going to have with Xbox Live, you're going to have a very streamlined homogenous experience, which I think is good for gaming, where sometimes we get a PC game, it's just, it's server after server, and you know, you can't even read half the shit because they use those ridiculous characters. There's still living in Askyland, you know, trying to be cool with the, with the, you know, Greek letters and the name of their server. And then you get in and it's like, what am I playing on playing like a version

where there's no walls? Yeah, I used to run into that all the time playing the original Unreal Tournament, which was like my favorite FPS back in the day. And it would be like, oh, great, I'm playing the map where I'm tiny and everything's huge and I'm fighting around a coffee cup. That's what I want to do for those 15 minutes. It's fucking retarded. Oh, before I forget about it, did you see the article, I think like UK Times or something like that, where a guy who was banned or his Xbox got bricked because of Microsoft when they went through and killed all the hacked machines? I think it was UK Times. It was a UK paper, I know.

They gave this guy a column to write about how he was pissed off at Microsoft that they would break his Xbox Just because he was downloading legal games And they gave him the space like here you go have fun and this kids like basically trying to defend himself saying, you know This is wrong what Microsoft did. Yeah, I was stealing games, but still it's wrong what they did sure I modified my Xbox, but come on. Yeah, but like do you have any idea how long it took me to earn the money to buy the Xbox? To you know so that I could break the warranty and fucking Modify it to play stolen games No, I like I sincerely wish like instead of just like banning these people or IP banning these machine or whatever the match banning

Whatever they're doing to these machines. I will shit brick them like literally broke the machine like oh, no Like there was a code they could trigger that would say your Xbox no longer works Like it personally so that's not what they're doing. They're not breaking. No, no, no. They're setting it where if that tries to connect to Xbox Live, you just can't ever, from any account ever. Basically, the network adapter in that Xbox can't connect to Xbox Live.

Like, I'm assuming, like, I know it must happen that when you connect to Xbox Live, you're also sending some serial number information to Xbox Live. Yeah, some sort of a MAC address. Yeah, because wouldn't we've done like the, we've gotten beta stuff for some of the updates and we, you know, it'll be like, what's your, what is your serial? So obviously Microsoft's getting that. So they say when this machine connects, just we're not going to let them connect as opposed to breaking the machine, which I, you know, I wish that.

Honestly, like as someone who's, I hate pirating games that much. I wish they'd like fuck them. It was break it. Well, you know, I mean, we talked about modern warfare too, being essentially a PC port of the console game. That just makes sense as a developer. They don't have this ability on PC and we read the article by the guy from crisis where he said the ratio of purchase games to pirated games being played online because they can seal that information He said it could be as high as one to 20 that's 95% piracy more than 95% on servers that they have to maintain

Well, it was that was that crisis with a demigod. I think that was Chris Taylor from Gas-powered games. What was it? I think so I know looking up right now. He's talked about I know for sure and actually I've met him He's a really cool guy. And he was, he's all about like, you know, for demigod, they didn't put any sort of protection or any DRM or anything on there. It said, you know, we'll release this because everyone's so anti-DRM and it turns out they were having issues where it was literally like one that like one out of 10 people were trying to connect the servers that actually had a legit copy. Like and they were killing the servers that way. That's the people that are trying to play with legit copies.

Yeah, exactly. That's a great way to repay a video game company for making you an awesome game by bankrupting them overnight. Like, hey, nobody's gonna buy your game and also we're gonna run your servers into the ground while you try to support them. And they're mad at you for it. Yeah, and they're like,

this fucking server suck, I can never get a game. So laggy. Well, I mean, everyone sort of has that point where, or maybe not everyone. I know I had a point where I'm like, wow, this fucking server suck. I can never get a game. So laggy. Well, I mean, everyone sort of has that point where, where I'm maybe, maybe not everyone. I know I had a point where I'm like, you know what? From now on, I'm not going to pirate stuff anymore. A new interview with Crytek CEO, Sevat yearly, I complete these. No, I think you got it right. Sevat yearly has seen the crisis developer suggested the ratio of legal to illegal copies of key PC titles could be as high as

1 to 20 as he discussed the past and future of the franchise That's so frustrating regarding the PC industry in general you really speculate that the ratio They're they say ration here that the ratio between sales to piracy is probably between 1 to 15 and 1 to 20 piracy is probably between one to 15 and one to 20. Quote, for one sale, there are 15 to 20 pirates and pirated version. And that's a big shame for the PEC industry. He commented, it's going to, it's a problem is going to solve itself. Yeah.

Just this is, this is what's going to happen. You're going to get Xbox live messages. They're going to make versions for Xbox and the dedicated consoles where they make an effort to have dedicated hardware that can have a piracy solution And then there will be a market for P.C. But it's gonna it's gonna very quickly and I would argue probably already is there It's gonna be a secondary market. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I mean look you talked about where the titles are coming out starcraft 2 They've already eliminated landplay for whatever reason, you know They want you to go through battle net. You're gonna have to be online

you're gonna have to authenticate, and pretty quickly down the pipe after that, you're gonna have to have an account that you pay for for that developer. Yeah. Like you do with World of Warcraft, you know, what is, does piracy exist for World of Warcraft? I know, I don't think so.

There are like private servers I know, but I mean, that's something completely different. Like, I've heard of people actually owning their own servers And can connect and like they have like free play world of warcraft But then again, it's like a few hundred people has to 10 million or whatever or 11 million whatever the number is now I'd be interested to see what the number actually is after the China thing that we talked about because that was a big portion of their Accounts were in China. Did you see the new mr. T. Ed? No, so you remember that Mr. T. Ed and the Analyze Osborne ad was like yeah I'm a what or a troll Mohawk or something like that. They have it now where it's like there's actually like a grenade that turns like

you can throw it at someone and it turns that character into Mr. T's character and or the warcraft. Oh really? Yeah. It's like a new promotion thing. It is launched it. That's pretty good. I don't have you to feel about something like stuff like they they added a Starcraft pet into World Warcraft. That's kind of odd to me. It seems night. Well, that's what he was to that kind of stuff happens a lot I mean to be fair. There's Halo armor and fable to right is there. Yeah, I didn't know that yeah, where's it? I don't know, but I remember when it happened. It's called the It's a name very similar to Halo like the hello Armor hails hails armor. Oh, yeah, yeah And it's basically because I found a weapon that I felt looked a little bit like an assault rifle probably it

It's probably what it was that's interesting. Yeah, I did I did not know that okay anything else that we want to talk about God I don't think so we talk about lunch cuz I'm fucking hungry I thought you and I were Jack we're gonna go see 2012 and get drunk and just yell at the top of the One's it anytime something exploded. It's not shown at the South Amar though. Like we can go to the village if you want to drive north. Village is nice. I go to village as much as I go to South Amar. It's about equidistant. I like it. I like it. We're only gonna go to the Alamo. Oh like that.

Why go anywhere else? The Alamo is the best theater in Austin. Hey, if no, in the country, what would you say? And if you go to the Alamo village you can see it in 4K. Oh really? Yeah, okay. Yeah, they have a 4 4k screens. I'm not gonna be able to show it. I'm not gonna draw all 4k Yeah, you're not gonna go up there. I can't tell the difference in 4k I'll go see the movie wherever but I'm not gonna go see cuz it's in 4k I can't tell the difference either. Yeah, but it's fun to say well Let's go to the village get drunk and yell when they blow up Vegas. Well, you can't yell at Alamo, but well, you can cheer.

I mean, sure you can yell. Throw me out. Then we can go punch Tim Leagz truck. Spend on, spend on his windshield and get banned for life. Um, you know, I haven't actually been getting a lot of stuff on Blu-ray. I just lowered my Netflix account. I had the eight disc account, which was, I think $1,000 a month. I'm not sure.

So I lowered, after I realized I just had a dissiting in the drawer all the time. I finally lowered down the standard three plan, and I'm not gonna miss it because of streaming it. And I wonder how many other people who have the higher level accounts are gonna start doing that, or just going down to two discs a month. I should get onto one because it's basically just the

whatever three kids movies does milly wanna watch today, Netflix that I'm paying for. Yep, and I just, I mean, I like her, but does she need three minutes? Oh, before I put shit in the queue, it never makes it to my house. You know, somehow Millie and Griffin manage that Netflix queue and my stuff's like see like I want to watch like I don't know like day after tomorrow and it's fucking 65th in the queue somehow I put it I put it number one yesterday and instead we get not at the museum again because I wanted to see that before it forget the Alamo the highball the new Alamo bar They're having a data pop party which data pop is like the chiptunes guys guys to make music with game boys and shit

Yeah sounds geeky. It's cool as fuck though. I saw it last year It's South by Southwest earlier this year. They had a big party and they're doing another one the end of November I don't know the specific data. I want to see this the 28th like the Saturday after Thanksgiving. So if you're in Austin, it's definitely worth checking out. It's really really cool. You know when we started doing Red versus Blue, we found out about Machinima kind of after the fact, we just thought, hey let's make a movie with a video game and then we started doing that and then we found out there was this thing called Machinima. Machinima at that point in time was very closely connected to that scene really

We whenever we did events there was this guy named Corey a very cool guy I remember he used to do stuff with 8-bit music and it was people modifying chips in any S's There was they also did it with dog matrix printers, right? Yeah, there was guy who made me with dog Yeah, that guy's up in Dallas. That's a tree wave is that guy's name really fucking cool And so you know all his name for some reason those two scenes were very closely connected And then you know now my shit him has become this just I mean with explosive online video and everything else It's like totally different animal now. I really read that Vimeo now bands you can't upload video game footage anymore Do we upload really? No, not a Vimeo. No, okay, you just can't do it. They just said look. There's too many video game

Videos out there too many movies too many mission stuff. Just please no more video game stuff Yeah, it's pretty interesting that a whole service is saying wholesale ban on genre that's yeah Yeah, if you never world in the next If you've never heard of chip tunes before look up tree wave look up What is it bit shifter bit shifter fucking awesome. And there's a few other guys There's guy there's guy down on Corpus. He's incredible. I forget his name. I'm gonna throw something in there Because I have a friend who does something similar to that for a living his name is John Michael and This last weekend I went to a seminar. He makes robots and

It gets him like he physically makes little robots that you move around and move dials and stuff and it makes like weird noises and people that you move around and move dials and stuff and it makes like weird noises and people there's like a whole scene apparently big in Japan and Germany and they have bands that use these little robots and he makes the living at it. Is that what like is that what they're like the live soldering and stuff and it makes music as they're changing? Yeah they yeah yeah yeah yeah I think I've seen some of that. They and I went he had like a seminar Sunday to make a free noise making robots so I went and checked it out and it was like the most fun I've ever had in 45 minutes and so check out Bleep Labs because that's pretty fucking awesome.

And he almost got a cat. He's had some pretty boring 45 minute period. No, no, that's really cool. Most fun you've ever had in 45 minutes. I'm not very technical. Nevermind. Put this transistor here in 45 minutes. It's bad.

Yeah, the head will. But it was really cool. I don't ever solder or fucking do that kind of stuff plus I'm tone death so you know I stay away from music But it was cool. You want to try whistling again? Oh, and of course before Brandon beats us We're supposed to mention that iTunes door iTunes has track aderos first two albums on it. Oh, hey, did you? Yeah? Did you use track adero? It's the Zoret, which was the soundtrack for the Blood Goats Blues. And then they have a new album out. Oh, that's not up there. That's not that's not up on iTunes yet. That but you can get the new album, which is called Ghost

the Linger in our online store. Thank you very much. Yeah, we're also selling truck it arrows new album, which is Ghost that linger and then the Ugo soundtrack, which is a soundtrack from the Stranger Hood is available in iTunes as well. We've an embargo here a while, which you barbecue. Are you Stranger Hood is available in iTunes as well. We've been in Barbican a while. Wish you a barbecue. Are you buying? Uh, sure. Hey, can I borrow like 50 bucks?

We're in Austin and there's nowhere to get barbecue anywhere near, near, near by in downtown. Alright, well Gus will return next week. He will be back from his little expedition in Northern California and we will be back as well. I probably won't though. Jack won't be here. Talk to you then. Bye. F**k face. Call to action. Feel free to add something show premise specific, but short. Listen to show name on Apple Spotify or wherever you get podcasts. It's F**k face, a podcast. Subscribe or no. You do yes?