Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #38

Episode Date: December 2, 2009

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Sure. Hmm. Maybe I shouldn't have used it then. Was it Microsoft Sam and Microsoft Mike I think? Are you feeling competitive? No, no, just more of other people's music. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no the Chief, which is a... It started off as Master Chief, Sucks at Halo, and then kind of morphed into... Get it kind of interesting run. I believe it's over now that John C.G.'s name, the guy who makes it digital fear. And he started off as just action figures where he would use the action figures from the joyride made, right? Was it the joyride action figures?

Yeah, it was the joyride action figures. And then he had one of his match Chief, one of his arbiter, and it was all about how match Chief sucks at playing Halo. Pretty funny. He had this huge controller signal that's lab. Then more of that action figure theater mixed with machinima, then went from that to action figure theater with machinima with a lot of live action stuff as well. I mean technically I guess you could say the action figure stuff was live action but it was

no no yeah I saw a lot heavier live action towards you. I love that I love that the actual live action stuff anytime a human was talking his head would bob like crazy like that was a big deal. That's how everyone talks right? Exactly. I think so. In my world they do. So how's everyone doing? Everyone recovered from my Thanksgiving. Welcome to the drug tank. Doing great. There we go. Now everyone's got the energy. That was the part of the podcast is now officially over.

Okay. Man, that took a whole two minutes. I had a great Thanksgiving. I also had a great Thanksgiving. Mine was pretty good. Jeff and I have the same Thanksgiving. We did. I was invited over to the Burns house for Thanksgiving

I think that makes my fifth Thanksgiving at your with your family. Is that true? Yeah, yeah, not Not nearly a couple years. There's been a row or no fifth total in the last like 10 years It's like my surrogate family. I get to watch Bernie get a little drunk and then get brow beaten by women all night Pretty much because my wife lives in the same town as her sister and her mother and it's doing they get together You ever see clash of the Titans? Yes Kind of like that are you the owl in which part? I if you steal their eye at the end of the night then they lose it completely I learned one thing from Thanksgiving this year is whatever you do don't throw a woman's gravy away

That's not a metaphor either. No, literally. Literally throw away their gravy. I decide to clean up after Thanksgiving dinner. Which I always admirable of you. Jesus, I know. I mean, it's like with you guys, whenever I clean up around here, everyone just stands around watching me clean something up. Jason's the worst about that. Yeah, he's pretty bad.

Yeah, if I say, hey, Jason, I need to sweep up this dust. Can you get the dustpan for me? And he comes to see a shirt. He gives me the dust pan. And then it's okay. One time at the beauty office, you asked me for the broom and I laughed at you. I should have, we'd been there for like a year and a half and you didn't know we had a broom.

So where's the broom? It goes, ha ha. Broom. We don't have one of those. I didn't know. Anyway, so I threw out the gravy and I was told that they wait all year for that gravy and that leftovers were now useless without the gravy was the best part. And I found a packet of the stuff they used to make

the gravy. It's like that 69 cent packet you can get at the grocery store. The corn mix brown gravy. So I secretly mixed it up while they were complaining. It's an oh no, here I found somebody to wrap jokes on you. It's not a raw happy It was pretty funny. It's like it's like dealing with a little kid kind of whoops Just kidding We'll go later. I made my fried Hala Peno Turkey just for Jeff and his wife. I thank you so much. It was as good as I remember to be Wow didn't you have to go out and buy like a whole new fryer and everything for that?

I did I wasn't aware of that part because I got rid of it I feel guilty now. I didn't know that he had thrown his apparatus away Well, I was glad to do it again. All in all that was a hundred and forty dollar turkey When it was all said and done, but you're just gonna back that other Jeff's paycheck, right? Yeah, that's just that's a startup cost Now I'm gonna be cash positive on Turkey's going forward. I'm pretty sure. Until you throw away the apparatus in the spring. Well, I'm a lot better at managing it.

The first time I did it, I wasn't good about managing it because you end up with about five quarts of used oil. What do you do with that after you're done? You put it back in the containers and then you read online over and over again. If you're me Can I reuse this and never being comfortable with the fact that you can reuse it? But you have to be able to reuse it right sure why not? Cuz it's food

I'd reuse it. How do you dispose of that much like cooking oil once you're ultimately done with it? You can't reuse it Port name storm drink neighbors backyard. What you do is you take it to an oil change place after hours and you just said it like other With a $20 bill or something like that Wait, no, but you don't dump it down a storm drain or anything like that. I don't know I always have I have issues with that and I have issues with paint. I never know what to do with cans of paint. Oh, yeah Just give them to my wife. They'll get used. What do you do with that? Well, if it's latex paints It's water base. So theoretically, there's no environmental impact if you just like dump it your neighbors you're long

Right I see fish swimming in my paint all the time And then look happy. Yeah, they seem fine. They're brightly colored and they match Yeah, I don't know. I this like the environmental responsibility drunk tank Well, it is a problem like we have that issue with the lawnmower where I couldn't throw away my lawnmower. What do you do? Oh shit, it's got a battery in it. I tell you I tell you what you do. You do what I do. You take it to Salvation Army on Sunday when they're not open. Put it on the front door. Didn't you once leave a sink at

a heavy time here? And they didn't want it. Dan and I Dan was remodeling his bathroom. This is like five years ago. Dan was remodeling his bathroom and he asked me five years ago. Dan was remodeling his bathroom And he asked me to help him out and so we pulled that as old sink and he wanted to donate it because Dan's a really cool guy I bet that kind of stuff He's super green and whatnot and he wanted to donate it to habitat for humanity

But there was a little russ around the ring area at the bottom and so we go to give it to him and they go Yeah, we're not gonna take that it's got rust on it. It was a perfectly usable sink You could have just wiped it away and Dan goes, okay cool So we walked around the back of habitat humanity and they had like a six foot tall fence and Dan goes whoop and just do it over the fence really That'll show you so they went from a slightly rusty sink to a broken sink They really did break. Yeah nice Wow, well, I guess he showed

Yeah, you know while we're recording this and we're talking about the $140 turkey, I want to bring up something that happened. I want to bring up something that happened on a business level for us. Did you guys happen to catch Jeff's $3,000 typo that he made? Yeah, I heard about it. So we sent out these discount codes for people who have ordered products from the Roocherthe store. As we can close the holidays, we think, hey, we'll give you a discount if you want to buy something more for the holidays. It's a nice little, you know, reward slash marketing thing that we do. Jeff is starting to cry right now, by the way. It's been a long five days for Jeff. I'll just say that. How many emails? It's a lot of emails. We don't

do any kind of bulky emails. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's like every user user on the site and it comes with like a little Christmas card that's drawn by Luke and all that yeah and I think it costs us about three thousand dollars to send out all those emails It's exactly what we do at the moment in company so that people can opt out if they don't want that kind of stuff You know and you know we want to do it officially so we pay this company about three thousand dollars to do this one email blast Jeff made a typo. It's the single most stressful moment of the year for me. Let me just say that every year when I have to send this message. I'm paralyzed with fear that I'm gonna fuck it up. And so I spend about three days just reading over the same email every time. And then going into the store back end

and making sure that the coupon codes are correct. It's a whole process. And I had, in my defense, I had Griffin read it, and then I had Matt Hollum, who also works in this company, and who is in charge of those kinds of things, our designer. I had him proof it as well, and they both signed off on it. Did you have Brain In Proof It? No, I thought about Jack for the name of Brandon or Jack Proof It. And so what happened? Well, it sent successfully.

It did. Yeah. And it's funny? Well, it sent successfully. It did. And it's funny how success can be measured on so many levels. Well, I guess I was using the previous year's email as a template for format wise. And I left the date, the expiration date, in the email as January 31st, 2009. The code actually expired January 31st 2010, and I found that very quickly when I started to receive thousands of emails.

From people. Let me know that the date was wrong. That's the thing about proofreading is that you can proofread it all day long and have people in this office look at it. As soon as you put it on the internet, they'll find it. Yeah. Instantaneously, someone will find it. If you got that email and you're listening to this podcast and you're confused by it, that is a typo, your code will work until January 31st.

But feel free to email Jeff. Yeah, feel free to email me and say wacky stuff like, ha ha ha, did Kabooston email this year? Because that didn't get old after the 300th time. It's unbitter. That was just like, I spent my most of my holiday when I wasn't at Bernie's house. I spent my holiday on my laptop apologizing to customers. Do you have a form letter?

No. Oh wow, so you've got a manual email from you. They deserved it. And now Bernie gets to hold a $3,000 type over my head for the rest of my life. Well, just think about it like this. If 150 people buy DVDs, they almost pay for your tempo. That's going to feel good. then we'll catch positive after that. And I thought it briefly about sending a like a retraction explanation email, but that would have been another

$3,000 email. So I decided. So it's $3,000 every time you send a blast. Yeah. Wow. I mean, we could just do the whole like BCC field thing, but that doesn't seem like a good way to do. Yeah. That's a long BCC field. I worked in a company one time where a guy sent out a notification to all the customers on the service on the service. It was a nice P and so we're talking potentially thousands of customers and he put everybody in the C.C. field and had sent out everybody's email address to everybody else and then what was really fun about that is people started replying And it just started to snowball

Wow, and then people started replying telling all the people not to reply to everybody on the list Oh my god, and it was horrific and it brought down the mail server at one point and it was all this Oh, and this is pretty early on you know when when all this stuff was kind of new and And this is pretty early on you know when when all this stuff was kind of new and Nobody really knew how do we not accept messages in regard to this message right So it was a problem. I remember once when we worked at that old tech support place There was an ISP in Mississippi whose male server started acting slow We're getting a lot of calls from people who are like yeah, you know I got it someone sent me an email and now we're gonna stop and received it and then throughout the day

We just kept getting calls like this and eventually I got a call from someone who was like Yeah, my friend in California sent me an email I still haven't received it I said yeah, and we know it's mail service kind of slow and he goes it might be because He was I don't know maybe my I'm not getting my friends email because he sent me a large attachment with it It was back when everyone had dial up. This is a dial up ISP now. It's like oh really how big was the attachment your friends sent me used two gigabytes There's also the error when everyone had 10 gigabyte hard drives.

So the guy that one email crashed the mail server? Yeah, was clogging up the entire email server for the whole ISP. That must have taken a week to send. Oh, it's like, I have no idea. It's boggling to me to this day what was sent in that email. Yeah, what would you have said that was two gigabytes back then? It was like 1998, you know, she's. That's what would he have said that was two gigabytes back then it was like 1998

She's oh, that's what he said was the entire year. He's in the entire he sent a rap open the 1997 internet Now I got an email once from I made friends with the director of the wizard because we did it a bit here Nasa was ain't it cool news and we had Fred Savage out and I became friends with the director the guy Again He's gone on and since directed like a lot of TV stuff, he did a lot of Malcolm the Middle and he's doing a lot of 30 rock now. Fred Savage? No, no, Fred Savage does always studying Philadelphia. He's talking about the director of the Wizard.

The director of the Wizard. The friend he can't remember. It's Todd Holland, this guy's name. And he's- How good of a friend are you? You guys hang out on the weekends? What I was in LA. Are you a friend in your parents house?

You told a great big fan and he was like, hey, thanks, I really appreciate that. And then he gave you a business card. They're writing a spectra script for the one you went home to your diary. And you were like, dear diary, Todd and I are best friends. He knows my name. That's cool. I'm not going to finish my story. I want to hear it. Jeff took it too far. I want to hear it. So anyway, he directed an episode of 30 Rock and he sent out an email blast just everyone in his address book that said, hey, I, you know, check out my episode of 30 Rock and he same sort of deal.

He accidentally forgot to put everyone in the BCC. Nice. So I have Tina FaZe email, Alec Baldwin's email and I use other people on the show. Is that true? Yeah. He directed the General E.C. Moe episode of 30 Rock. Did he really?

Yeah. Dude, that's one of the best episodes. Yeah, he was nominated for a nitty for that episode. Oh, yeah. That was a great episode. Yeah, did he really? Yeah, dude, that's one of the best episodes. Yeah, he was nominated for an Emmy for that episode. Yeah, that was a great episode. Yeah, so it's kind of cool. It's like, oh, hey, and then he immediately responded, please do not use these emails for anything. Bad. Hey, next time you're hanging out with Todd, you know, like Saturday or whatever, let's get together to for bowling or whatnot. Tell him, Gus and I are a big fan of that episode. Oh, cool. Well, he's actually directing a new series on Fox called Suns of Tucson. It's a new it's a new show that's being picked up next spring. Hmm. So yeah, I almost worked on it. Oh, yeah. Yeah Next time you hang out with him ask him for me. Why did he need to email Tina Fey to remind her to watch 30 Rock? Yeah

It's just like I just directed you yesterday in this episode. I think you really like it check it out tell your friends But it was pretty funny like immediately after it is like please, please do not use these emails for evil By the way, I posted your email me in a cool news board Gus and I are trying both trying something independently Oddly at the same time that is fucking odd for us and strange ground. You don't talk about that at all, I guess. Yeah, I have to. We, yeah. It had an impact on that email, I said. I'll tell you that. We, I think it's what you're talking about. I don't think the fact you're bringing

it up like that makes me kind of, I don't think Jefferoy have had a drink for over a week at this point. You've been going a little longer than I. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm going on it in nine days. I think I think today's my seventh day. We both quit drinking at the same time and didn't know. We didn't tell each other a coordinated. We just got a weird parallels when it comes to alcohol Mm-hmm, and yeah, we both quit drinking at the same time and I was painfully sober when I sent that email And I think that was part of the reason I was distracted. Here's another parallel. I don't give a shit Anyway, it sucks Really you're not drinking why video games are a lot easier when you're not drunk.

That's fucking, that's totally true, by the way. You have to explain this. Why am I not drinking? Dude, I don't know. What does that mean? You have it a problem. I had a good like 16 years or so of drinking every day. It's good streak. And just 28. I, uh, alright, maybe it was more than 16 years. But, uh, I just, I had at this time for break. I don't know

Yeah, yeah, there's more you want to go and eat deeper with this you want to get on the couch here I mean, I mean the wood you'll need tell you what your store or something. Oh, I'm just broke You all money I use the money for this. No, no, I'm good. This is just the tank at this point, right? Yeah, this is just a tank We'll call the jack tank. There we go. Wait, what I'm good. This is just the tank at this point, right? Yeah, this is just a tank. We'll call it the Jack tank. There we go. Wait, what? I'm not done forever. I don't hold on tank. I don't think I'm done forever. I'd like to drink again. I think about it You aspire to drink again. I do. I do. But I just want to make sure I'm not you know Kill myself for you know, I had a similar concern like Two or three years ago, and I went to the doctor and you know They had all kinds of tests done. I mean like ultra sounds on my kidneys and my liver

Like I got the whole diagnostic right up and after they were done that came back to me and they were like Are you sure you drink? They're like all your internal organs look perfectly fine and healthy. I was like all right And that was the worst thing they could have ever done No, I went on a fucking bender after that. I had a I had a thing where I got really sick and I couldn't explain it and I went to the doctor and I got a full game of the test run and he was like you are the picture of perfect health There's nothing wrong. I was like what about the kidneys and the liver and he's like no they look great after I quit drinking I got really sick for a couple days. I don't know if that's you know that could just be coincidence

But so I went to the doctor last week and had him on all the tests again and they were like yeah, you look great You're totally healthy and I was, yes, I could start. Oh, wait, I probably should. Probably should. Typically break. Yeah. So are you having DTs or anything like that? No, I had a, I had a, I had a very boring couple days.

I'll tell you this. I realized why I drink alcohol. I mean, A, it's delicious. But B, life is fucking boring without alcohol. Seriously, you know what I'm talking about, right? Gus, yeah, the god, damn, you just watch a clock. Seriously, you know what I'm talking about right? God damn you just watch a clock seriously? Slowly dying. See I don't drink all that much. Oh man. I drink like at holiday parties and things. What would you do with pleasure? At Gus's house where I go. Oh my god. I drink to move

out of that house after that. I heard you had a party recently and I noticed I wasn't invited to your most recent party at your new place. I haven't had a party. Oh I thought you said you had a party recently and I noticed I wasn't invited to your most recent party at your new place I have an other party. Oh, I thought you said you had a party. Oh, he had his family over for Thanksgiving Oh, okay. I See, I don't I don't I here's my typical day for me would be I drink a little bit of lunch right two or three beers at lunch Or a couple of mixed drinks while we're out and then maybe a drink in the afternoon before I go home from work And then a couple drinks before milligoths to bed and no milligoths about I start drinking and You start drinking. Yeah, you do that like seven days a week for My mom's gonna listen to this

For two weeks for two weeks and you start to feel a little Little haggard so I'm the opposite of that because I will buy beer when I have a party at my house And I always buy just a little bit too much beer and then that beer will be in my refrigerator for six months. I have gone no no no no I have gone to your house before I'm in a serve to be here that had rust rings on the top because it had been in your cooler for years I guess. I remember that I'm we get when we go into your liquor cabinet we have to like you can blow a cloud of dust off all your bottles. You have to be sure when you get a beer at Bernie's house if it's in a bottle that you don't drink it out of the bottle you have to port into a glass just for like sanitary sake. Yeah, so you don't get like a tetanus from it I

I said that was a big test for me when I went to your house for Thanksgiving because it's like a holiday and it's festive And I was about to spend four hours with Bernie's family. I bought loan start just for you. Well, I loan started for me And I didn't I didn't protect my wife got hammered though What a lush. Well, you had to drive home. I did that's the first time my life It's gonna be a great day for you once Millie gets a driver's license. Oh god Built in designated driver. Yeah, so how long with us last? I don't know. I really don't know I Sounds like a bet coming up. You're not gonna get like preachy and shit. Are you? No? Okay good? No?

No, no, I still like alcohol a lot I can't wait to get back to it. I just feel like you know You got it everyone's gonna all take stock and take a break mixed things up a bit, right? I think it's a good thing Yeah, right yeah, no, I think you're right. I think going from binge drinking to complete cold turkey That's that's healthy Fuck moderation Yeah, you gotta go all out of moderation, right? I'm all or nothing kind of guy. It's either it's either off or it's on or you're either drinking it. It's true. It's binary. Just like your liver. Your liver will probably just shut down. It'll go, well,

my job's done. I'm no longer needed. Clearly, I'm out of here. Hey, or does the lifetime's worth of work in 30 years? That 30 years and Speaking of not the changes subject away from my embarrassing I am embarrassed equidrinking But it's segueing artfully away from that back towards Jack's pretend celebrity friends Gus and I for the last two days I've had a kind of a weird celebrity sighting. Yeah, it's we keep running into Walton Goggins. I don't know who's, uh, who played Shane on the shield. You would recognize him if you saw him. I mean, you'd know him immediately. He's been, he's been in, he's been a lot of... He's in Shanghai, noon, I think.

Yeah, and he was in, uh, like, house of a thousand corpses. And he's had some small parts. Yeah, he's been on CSI and other... He's directed some, like, short films, hasn't he? Or is that, is that someone else? No, you might be thinking of some of those. Anyway, uh, he, I guess, is in town for filming predators because they're filming that right downtown.

And for the last two days, every time Gus and I leave the office, he's downstairs, like getting coffee or hanging out by the Japanese restaurant. And we have both had this monologue of whether we should say, hey, we're big fans or not. Are you a big fan? Yo, absolutely. Yeah, the shield is probably up there. Like one of my top favorite TV shows.

Yeah, it's in my top five probably. It's definitely in my top five. It might be up there in number one. It's pretty close. Yeah. My rule of celebrities is you know, you can shake their hands, say, hey, I'm a fan and that just leave it at that. I wouldn't even want to do that. I would really. I would really. Or any of that. I would just, I would kind of like say, like, hey, dude, I thought you were really good in the shield. Okay. Well, yeah. I I mean, but I don't think I don't think I'm gonna find something wrong with that. I just don't like approaching people Do you probably just want to be left alone? I pod headphones on he was smoking I was like yeah, you know just keep walking and then like I saw him this morning I was getting coffee and he's like using his MacBook at the coffee shop and I'm saying

But if you saw James Franco outside right now you immediately would go up to him right not necessarily really we just a couple weeks ago Gus and I saw the dude from office space. We didn't talk to him Yeah, yeah, but that was weird too because he pointed at me Him and his hot girlfriend both pointed at there were walking we were walking back to the office with beer It was doing DVD production. What is that guy's name? He was on he was on Drew Kerry show I'm looking it up. he does a lot of voice over the deal not Dean Bajar yeah Oswald that's it yeah yeah no Dean Bajar is is a little bit better did you bet he yeah he he and his like mega hot girlfriend walking on the street and Gus and I were walking towards him right outside the office

and he looked at me and he goes hey hey and he pointed at me and started laughing and turn back those girlfriend and was like oh no I guess that must be his wife. Apparently, he's married. Oh, life. I'm sorry, wife. Totally his wife. That's all right. Yeah, definitely his wife.

And they just kept on walking. It was weird. So I was something about me carrying beer. I was amusing to them. They're like, look, tattoos. Their wife's not. Yeah, she's pretty. That's not her.

That's totally the woman I saw Wow So it's funny you mentioned James Franco. Why did you pick James Franco Jack? Oh, it's because we were watching those videos our Jeff was watching the video earlier of James Franco on as the world turns Is that what general hospital? So good, I saw I guess he's doing a stint on general hospital the other day I was in the checkout line now. I guess he's his character inint on general hospital. The other day I was in the checkout line. Now I guess his character in general hospital, his character's name is Franco, which is even better.

And I was in the checkout line at the grocery store. You know, they have like all those little soap opera magazines at the checkout. And there was one, I think it was soap opera digest. And had a James Franco's face and he was surrounded by all these hot chicks. And it just said, who will Franco sleep with? And he had that smart, little mustache on

and like a sneer on his face. It's fucking awesome. How bizarre. I mean, I bet you'll Jeff, if I was James Franco, I would buy as many of those magazines like put it like wallpaper in my house with it. So who does who approaches who in that scenario? Does General Hospital just approach everybody? He's saying, hey, if you want to be on General Hospital, you can absolutely come on

General Hospital or just James Franco go, you know what? I want to be on a soap opera. I think James Franco goes, you know what? I want to be on journal hospital You can absolutely come on journal hospital or just James Franco go. You know what? I want to be on a soap opera. I think James Franco goes, you know what? I want to be on the soap opera. He was on one before right? I'm a funny fucking guy He's on the soap opera, did he? I think so. I don't know but it makes me like him a lot more It makes me want to watch I think you can watch a day old soap opera's on Hulu We'll have to look into that. Yeah, the only thing we saw we just saw like a clip on you You should link that in the dump. It's pretty funny.

Was pineapple express this year or was that last year? Was last year. Damn. Was it really? Uh-huh. Yeah. See, I would say he would almost be worthy of a nomination for his part in pineapple express. He is hands down, that's part of that.

Was it nominated for Golden Globe? For that? For that role? No, he got nominated for milk, didn't he? No, I didn't see no. That would make more sense. You think so? Yeah, that would be something you would tend to get nominated for. Although, doesn't Golden Globes have that like comedy category? Yeah. He's a, he's about to, he's reenacting with Danny McBride, who is in Pineapple Express with

to do a medieval drug movie called High Court. I think that's what it's called. Oh, I thought it was called Your Highness. Oh, your highness. That's right. Your highness. So I look forward to that. You know, I kept thinking when I was watching V. No, he was nominated for, yeah, a golden globe for pineapple express. There you go. Well deserved. There you go. Did he win? No, just nominated. Who won?

It's all who you know. You don't know. It's all politics. But the golden gloves. That's the one that Jim Carrey would win every year and then never get nominated for an Academy Award. Like you got nominated for Man on the Moon, I think for Eternal Sunshine. And neither of those even got nominated for Academy Award. That's a shame because Eternal Sunshine is a great fucking thing. That's probably the best movie that came out that year.

James Frackle lost a colon feral for a movie called In Brujus. In Brujus. Oh yeah. in Brujus in Brujus. Oh, yeah, that was with a Rooge, okay, never heard of it. Sorry. It's supposed to be good. Yeah, I haven't seen it Yeah, Ray Ray finds isn't that not a big colon feral fan. No, no, not really Doesn't do it for me. He was he was actually the only good part about that daredevil movie He played bullseye and he was actually really good. I didn't like him at all in that movie. Really? No, not in the least daredevil. Wow. I know. The movie was terrible, but he was him and John Favreau. He played what I guess

daredevil's buddy. You know what? Yeah, he played the Iron Man's buddy, the fat dude, the other lawyer. He's got a good name. Happy. Happy. Happy. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go out. I'm gonna go out I'm gonna say I'm gonna go and record as saying I didn't see Daredevil when it came out I'm a huge comic book guy I've been reading comic books since I was six and it seemed like a travesty and so I refused to see it and they got horrible reviews and I abstained from that movie because I didn't want the good name of Daredevil to be solid and then about three years after it came out it was on HBO and I sat down and watched it and it was not as bad as

Everyone said it was well that was right after you're afflicted Glee or whatever it's like it was just like it was popular to rip on mid-affleck and everything he does It was not a good movie. No, no, it was definitely not as bad as people made it up Yeah, I had to watch Glee on a flight from Newark to Puerto Rico once That was the longest fucking flight in the world And was every time did every time Jennifer Lopez come on screen did everybody go Every time every time a plane every time I would land back in Puerto Rico as soon as the plane touchdown Everyone on every flight would always start cheering and clapping. I love it. That's pretty awesome

Why not dude? There's a little unsettling pilot did a good job. Let's get him around my. It's like it's like it's like if Walton Goggins was flying the place like appreciate your work I really enjoy what you do. Good job. Thank you. Good job. Just say I'm the one you're walking out for the cockpit You say hey, thank you. That's it. Goodbye. And thank you You know, I want to correct us before we get a lot of emails. Okay, the character that Favreau plays in Daredevil is foggy get a lot of emails. Okay. The character that Favreau plays in Daredevil is foggy. That's the character he plays in Iron Man is happy. Happy Hogan. Happy Hogan. Happy Hogan. Have you seen this promotional image for Iron Man 2? I have seen that. Coming out, I guess it's got a release date. May 7th. Fucking awesome. They put the poster up yesterday too, I think. I haven't seen it yet, but oh, is that what you've got? Hey, look at that.

When I saw the article posted, I think I saw it on dig. It was posted there and other places as Iron Man 2 poster with first look at War Machine. Have we seen War Machine's first look about eight times now? Yeah, he was a Comic Con. They showed footage of Comic Con. Serious footage. I came with a Gatling gun and I missed it. Oh, you did?

Yeah, you had friends in the front of the line. Yeah, yeah, our buddies from Ainut Cool who I got to tag along in their interview with John Faber who I work with Ain't it cool and I didn't get it. So whatever So that was pretty cool. Let's cool the meet him. He gets to stare at Scars are hands and ass right I did get to stare at Scarlett Johansson's ass It was like you Sam Rockwell and John Faber. I was yeah, we just seen Mooglinger. I just seen Moon and Sam Rockwell's like wandering around. I would never wash my eyes again. No, I haven't. So it's funny to say that.

You know, I feel bad. The John Favreau IMDb photo is that John Favreau? And John Favreau is this weird guy where it's just up and down that he's going to be doing damage to his body. No, unless it goes back and forth. No. He goes from like ripped to you to ripped.

I can't be healthy. Am I that bad? Am I that bad? Let me. No. No, that's like Jack. I'll have to link dump that. What is that?

Is that an IV photo? This is an IV photo. And then you know they have a little film strip here of all different photos of them. It looks like a different guy in every photo. Yeah. I remember seeing Elf when he was the doctor in Elf and was like, oh man, Favreau, you put on some weight. You know what he looked as worst and probably was the break up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was bald and round. It was not a good look for him.

And then like he did some other thing with the four Christmas one or whatever that was with Reese Witherspoon and Vince Maughan. And he was huge. Like you have see like ripped again. Oh yeah, that's right. Like I should do some kind of book. You know, he reminds me of Rocky Marciano. Yeah. They're reminds me of Sean Ashton in 51st days. Ha ha ha ha.

Sean Ashton's role in 51st days is one of the funny roles of a receiver. That weird Lispy has throughout the whole. He's like the Mesh shirts. Ha ha ha ha. He's fucking awesome in that film. And who would have, who would have known that John Favreau was going to turn out to be one of the best directors? No kidding.

In the US. No kidding. I mean, he wasn't, he didn't even direct swingers. No, but it makes you wonder how much input he had. How much of that was him and how much of this Doug Lyman. Doug Lyman, yeah. Doug Lyman's done some other stuff. He did Mr. Mrs. Smith.

Mr. Mrs. Smith is a great movie. Didn Did he do the born identity too? He did born identity Yeah, he did the other ones and he did something just came out that was not good though. Oh really? Oh Jumper right he did jumper. Oh, yeah, he did do jumper. Yeah, which I actually it was okay. I watched that the other day Yeah, it was okay. All right. Samuel Jackson was not good. No, Sam Sam Jackson is pretty rough. Yeah, let me tell you some Okay, go forward. Samuel Jackson is rough in a lot of stuff And he gets a lot of credit like the internet seems to love Samuel Jackson He wasn't good in Star Wars. No, he really was not good. You just need one good memorable iconic role And for him it was pulp fiction. Yeah, And that has been like going along the entire time.

He was, he was pretty good in good fellows in the whole moon. Black snake moan. Okay. Awesome. All right. I take it back what I just said. Because Black snake moan, he was awesome.

Yeah. He was incredible in that movie. Yeah. We saw that it speaking of a Nicole again. And this is going to be the theme for this podcast. We went to that button on that you saw and saw Black snake moan. And Craig, what's the name of the director he also did a hustle and flow

Craig something We're gonna come full circle circle here because now What's his name from? Out of Iron Man. Oh, yeah, and Don Cheetle is gonna be playing. I heard he's out of hustle and flow too as well Craig Brewer was the director crack me. Okay, what would you okay. And Terence Howard is the name of the actor who played Rody in the first Iron Man and now he's being replaced by Bonsheedle. Bonsheedle. Yeah, who's an awesome actor. Not enough stuff. I traded up. He was he had a good run that where he was in Boogie Nights and out of sight or out of

mind. Is that what it was called? What's that movie called? The J-Lo movie? And he had a bunch of like a a period that we had a bunch of high profile roles and then just you know hear from him very often anymore. The last thing I saw him in was hotel Rwanda. God he was fucking good. Yeah. Yeah. He was great in the oceans movies too. Yeah. Oh yeah. If people hate those movies, but I like it. No. The second one. The second one was the second one was the ocean's 12. Yeah. The third one was all right. The third one was okay. Yeah. 13 is actually really good. I don't know if I'd say that but it's I dug it It was better than 12 for sure. I just was great an interesting Sotterberg movie the other day

I watch girlfriend experience. Oh, how is that? I've been meaning to watch that I keep it's really different You know what I mean? And Sotterberg's really cool because he does stuff like Hi brow shitty shit, you know or I shouldn't say hi brow, but like really broad stuff like the oceans 13 and oceans 12 Mm-hmm. They'll do that stuff But then he turns around and just kind of does whatever he wants like bubble and Jay and Jay which haha funny story about that but um Again this girlfriend experience was pretty good. I mean I haven't seen all of it I watched some of it last night cuz I had to watch Dragon Ball evolution with my kid

I Mean I was that to cleanse the pal and I started watching girlfriend experience I watched I recently watched land and lost with my kid or about 30 minutes of it until I was that to cleanse the pal and I started watching girlfriend experience I watched I recently watched land in a lost with my kid Or about 30 minutes of it until I realized that that is a gross horrible movie for a four-year-old to watch What is it? Land in a lost house. The will for one? The enemy prize in there. There was a there was a point in it Where a mosquito lands on Will Ferro and sucks all of the blood out of his body and the mosquito is as big It's like 80 pound balloon of blood and then he pops it And that was like that was the point I had to turn it off I was like, all right, you probably shouldn't see this. How do you get the blood back?

Back in this body. You drank it. He didn't. He just... He's a fashion actor. Yeah, it's not great. It's honestly not an actor in the movie, but It was also not a good movie. Yeah, they're gonna always be stuff in you don't realize when you're watching a movie The kid and all of us under so much weight inappropriate surprises shit out of you. Yeah, not good. It's a shame. I definitely had some sort of rating system. I don't know. It's a kind of warning in the front of the movie. In the case of taking your kid to see Astro Boy like I did, you just realize, oh, this is inappropriate because this is fucking terrible.

I'm exposing my kid to terrible terrible stuff. He's a kid. He likes terrible stuff, right? He loved it. Yeah, absolutely loved it. Speaking of terrible Gus and I both watched Bruno this weekend independently independently and man That movie a piece of shit really like I thought maybe it'll be maybe it'll be half as good as borat I'd be happy with that no No, it was like it's an it's incredible that the same person could be involved in both of those films Bruno was such a tragedy. The travesty.

Like the narrative that they tried to, like when you've into the story was just fucking terrible. Like the Borat narrative wasn't great, and you realize they have to have some common thread, right? But the Bruno one was just atrocious. Yeah, but at least with the Borat one, they kept the narrative that they were trying to weave in there to a minimum.

Yeah, I think half of this movie was scripted plot, at least. Yeah, really? Yeah, and not good Not good some of the Borat narrative stuff was really funny like what it was a sister that was funny none of the narrative Bruno stuff was funny Really well, I didn't see it. I remember I left Borat and I said that movie's funny Everyone's making a huge deal about what a new kind of comedy this is Nobody will be talking about this movie in six months. It's pretty much what happened. Yeah, when when he makes his penis Y'all Bruno to the focus group. I actually left out. No, that was funny. I left out loud at that too. That was definitely funny

There were a couple there we go now There were some there were on there were a couple funny moments in it It wasn't worth it. I heard the MMA scenes supposed to be really, really funny. It's not, it's scary. Okay. It's not funny. The thing at the end, I guess he's talking about the UFC. All right, well don't know.

I didn't find it funny at all. I found it kind of sad and terrifying. We got a bunch of shit at the end of the podcast last week because Gust apparently just decided to drop a huge spoiler bomb about modern warfare too. No, fuck that. I mean, the game had been out for two weeks at that point. I'll bet they're off.

Well, I don't know if I agree with that. Just two weeks. That comes to weeks. That we got are that, hey, I'm 14 and I'm getting this game for Christmas. I can't fly that right now. I can't fly that right now. I can't fly that right now. I can't fly that right now.

I can't fly that right now. I can't fly that right now. I can't fly that right now. I can't fly that right now. I can't fly that right now. I can't fly that right now. I can't fly that right now. I can't fly that right now. In that in the storyline It's a bad guy. Oh, right. Hey, hey, hey, you gotta believe that hey Right the time From here on out let it let it just be known though that if you're gonna listen to the drunk tank podcast You're gonna get spoiled yeah at some point don't say that that's not true. There's a possibility Wait, why are 14 year olds listening to the drum?

That's my point. Yeah, that's a good point. This is some inappropriate language who the fuck are you kidding? Tell me internet 14 year olds probably the oldest person listening That's a good point. This is some inappropriate language. Who the fuck are you kidding? Tell me internet. I think you're gonna break. 14 year olds probably the oldest person listening to this. Man, I've been playing Left For Dead 2. That is awesome. I just got a press release from Valve this morning saying that they've sold 2 million copies of Left For Dead 2. And the first two weeks that it was out.

Let's take a quick math. Does that include a lot of copy? 2 million copies? Quick, yeah. What is that 20 million? It's a hundred twenty million dollars. Does 120,000 That's 18 billion dollars one for two billion dollars. Do that carry the four do they now does that include PC and 360? Yeah, I think that was PC on 360. Okay PC and 360

Yep, it doesn't include any of the PS3 the black Friday sales. Oh, it does not no Best buy was selling or cyber Monday too like 35 bucks on black Friday Yeah, if I were to know and best buy had left for dead to on sale for $35. Oh to bought a copy. Are you seriously did? Yeah? Yeah, I had no idea. Well, I was at a best buy on black Friday Brandon had a journal about it Speaking of going to best buy I had a idea. I was at a best by a Black Friday. Brandon had a journal about it. Speaking of going to Best Buy, I had a weird thing where I watched Brandon on the site. I had a, Griffin and I wrapping up the Fable 2, I endeavored not to talk about Fable 2 in this podcast because I feel like I spent a lot of time talking and making comics

about a game that's two years old now. Well, I knew your defense you do. But so Griffin and I wrapping up Fable 2 and we wanted to find something else to play. And I started looking around and the best thing I could come up with was Tales of Asperia, which is a multiplayer MMO that got really good reviews last, that came out last August. Got great reviews, so I went to Best Buy to buy it and it was like the one game they didn't have at Best Buy. I thought that's weird, so I went to Game Crazy and I asked the guy if he had it and he

goes, yeah right, we can't keep that game in stock and I was like what he goes. Yeah, I don't know what it is about that game But anytime it comes in newer used it's gone immediately we have people call about it He goes I can call around the other stores in town, but nobody's gonna have it. This game is hard to find I couldn't believe it. It was really weird. So I called the games the game stop by my house. They didn't have it either So and this game's totally under my radar tails of Asperia just a multiplayer M RPG, but I saw about on Amazon because Amazon has everything But I though there's really weird it in like all the major game stores in Austin you can't buy that game And it's only a year old looks like it's decently reviewed. Yeah, I got a half on game spot

Right. Yeah, and everywhere else I read got really good reviews to manko bandai. Yeah, very Anime looking. Yeah, for sure. I'm gonna it's gonna be a I'm gonna start dressing up to come to work. No. No. Yeah, you want to wear a big sword on your back? Maybe. So I was willing to be able to with Jeff because we were trying to get the doll catcher achievement which you want to talk about this. I mean this can be embarrassing for both you and I. It's pretty good. But it's gonna end up being more embarrassing for you, I think. Because we had to get together to trade dolls that you collect and fable to. Yes, last night we met on Xbox Live.

Oh, you guys actually met? I guess you were yelling at each other about that. What? But not being able to meet up online. Like, you claim that you'd never played online with Jeff. Or at least not recently. I, if I ever get online, I never see Jeff on it. I remember why when we were doing this last night

through this process, I remember why Bernie and I don't play online together. I can't join the next box live party with Bernie Nope, I can't play games with Bernie anytime. I try to I have this problem now that you mentioned that I used to have that problem also but since I've moved and gotten the new ISP I've not had that problem at all what's your ISP you have now? I switched to Grande remember we put that left For dead two game and I can hear you now and I can I can party with you yep Bernie had this time order Bernie had to switch Xboxes and then we were fine. I'm a switch. It was like it was probably Half of an hour just to get into a game together and a party together. Yeah, well on fable two

Fable so we're thing where if you're playing fable two and your friends are playing fable two as well They just appear in your game. They're just wandering around. It's it's a representation of them It's a orb that floats around with their icon on it. But you don't have to join their game or anything like that. That's cool. It's pretty cool. Microsoft has to do that with their first party stuff. Like with the Halo 3 is the only game that has like the extra menu stuff. I've been noticed that. Yeah, the party. Yeah, yeah. Mostly they did that more often. You know, I agree. I picked up Fable 2 last night because you fuckers talk about it.

Hey, it's working. I noticed Knuckles playing it the other day. I picked up fable to last night because you fuckers talk about it. Hey, it's working I noticed knuckles playing it the other day. I've seen a Gavin is about about to start playing it Did you where'd you pick it up? Huh? What do you mean you picked it up like you bought it? I bought it. Yeah, you know It's a game on demand. Yeah, I realized that after I bought it. Oh, I was like wait I was like sitting down in my house. It's like wait a minute. I could just download this game Yeah, and I think it's way better because you know to switch out the disc or anything like that I love that game on demand I hope I hope the next Xbox platform I hope that's entirely downloaded games me to I'm sure game stop does to yeah

This portion of the podcast brought you by game stop brick and mortar stores So we got in the game and I Interacted with Jeff and was trading the dolls with him What do these dolls look like? You're playing a little like a role in the game. They're like a four year old doll. Yes. And you have to, and here's the way it works, is that there's heroes in the game

and their main characters in the plot. You get dolls that are specific to your game. Like I got the hammer doll and hammer is a character in the game. I got the reverb doll. Right. And your game you will only get certain dolls. So you have to trade with other people in order to get this achievement. So it's really unique.

And it was fun just to go through the experience of getting that achievement because I've never had another one like that. Yeah. Well, another thing that you can do is that while you're interacting with the person, you can go in and check their stats as well. Like what they've done in the game. So I decided to check Jeff stats to see how long he'd played and what he'd done.

Jeff, how many times do you have to have sex in the game to get that achievement? 25. Okay, Jeff said six, 78 times. You can't do that. Would you like to break down on how Jeff has had sex in the game? Absolutely.

25 times has had marital sex. 32 times, he's had unmarried sex. 36 times he's had sex with prostitutes. To be fair. For 25, for 25 married sex, that was your obligatory sex. To be fair to Jeff. I only play with Griffin and that's all Griffin. I'm just I'm like what's called her henchman where I join her game and then I You just watch yeah, and it go like well here's part the process of things like this we I read about the achievement and then we went out We had sex with like 30 prostitutes and the achievement never popped up and then I realized you couldn't do it with a Procitude you have to do it with your marital partner

So then we had to go and have sex 25 times with our husband while I watched That's why about 50 about 60 of those were as a result of trying to get one achievement. Were you behind a wall with like little hole cut out watching? I was in the closet. If one of you has sex 25 times, then both of you get to get cheated? Yeah, we both, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because the cool thing about that game is you have to get the achievement yourself or

see someone else get it. So can you both play as heroes or just one of you have to be here in the other hands. If we both played, if we had two boxes and two get copies of the game, then we could both join as heroes over Xbox Live, but we played local. So we was her hero and my henchman. Once again, we're going way too in depth about a game. Yeah, for a year and a half, but you can also join as a henchman with your save and get experience and all that. So when you go back, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, so you can go back and you can get gold and a henchman with your save and get experience and all that so when you go back Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, so you can go back and you can get gold and experience I'm asking because I'm sure my wife's gonna get into it

Yeah, so she'll start sleeping with probably so you just both create an account use her account as the hero and then you just be her henchman okay Lego Indiana Jones to yeah, what's up? That's what you should play you were asking last week what you should play with your wife Just play that I have it on my desk right now. It's just a fun goofy smashing game and play it you should play it all right, although it does have parts of it that are The Lego series is weird the Lego series has always has like one achievement in there like do this do that You know complete this get a hundred percent in the game and then there's always one achievement like just play the game again Like yeah play the game in this particular way and there's a quick play mode and you have to go through and play every level

on quick play. That's kind of annoying. Especially after you've played all the other levels and multiple times to find collectibles and shit. Exactly right. I mean, I think Lego's Star Wars 2, the complete one because I play this with Jack, my kid Jack. And we had to play the game I think five or six times that's how I'm playing to get all the achievements.

Do you know how many hours that was? No I don't know but it doesn't matter because replay is entirely different to kids. I mean Jack just loads it up and plays it all the time. A level is probably 10 minutes though and there's six levels per episode six episodes. Yes. On the flip side of that I just finished Dragon Age Orig, and I think to get all the achievements in that game, you need a minimum of 3 playthroughs. Really? Like 50 hours of playthrough. Yeah, that's the same with Tales of Asperia. I'm going to be interested to see if we can make it through. A thousand point that game, 3 playthroughs, they say it's about 130 to 150. Jesus.

Jesus. Yeah. I just thousand pointed as fast as I'm screwed too first time I've a thousand pointed a game in a while What was the last game before this one? Maybe godfather to honestly really? Yeah, it's been a while Oh, man, I've done a few arcade games, but no full retails. Yeah, I was very proud of that So you liked it though assassin's creed too. I like to a lot. Are you gonna go back and play the first one? Maybe is that what games on the man? Yeah, I don't know, maybe. If it is, I might. I don't know if I want to go out and buy it. I mean, we probably borrow it. I'm sure we all have copies of that.

I think Jan has my copy of Assassin's Creed. Get fucking Dan has my copy of Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect. Dan has my copy of a bunch of things too. Now that you mentioned it. God damn it. Fucking hell, that's some of a bitch. We gotta get, we gotta go over to Dan's house and get our games back. I gave him like eight games.

Now don't even remember what they are. I think we we met remember we had dinner with him a couple weeks ago And he was supposed to bring my games back and he didn't yeah Yeah, I loaned my brother-in-law a bunch of my older games actually I got I started playing portal because we had our achievement 100 community play date. Oh last Friday and I went out and bought the orange box which I'd never had and After our play date we I started playing portal bar myself and I gave him and bought the orange box which I had never had and after our play day we I started playing portal by myself and I can't believe with all the hype you've never played it no it's never weird to me too I just never had the game that's like all right it's totally you're kind of game too oh totally like that's that's like I've had a great time I'm three achievements away

from perfecting that or at least the portal section of orange box. So I heard about this new game Space Invaders. Yeah. A lot of fun. A lot of old games being talked about today. Apparently. Yeah. I'm looking forward to Pac-Man. I'm going to work my way up to that.

Is there anything coming out now? Yeah. Yeah. Between now and Christmas. This week the Avatar game comes out and then next week's Avatar. I don't know how you like Avatar. I think the game looks okay.

I'm excited for Avatar. Yeah, me too. You know what? I mean, isn't that going to. I think the game looks okay. I'm excited for Sabotor. Yeah, me too. You know what? Isn't that going to spoil the movie if people are playing the game a month or so? If it's anything like the up game, probably not. Yeah, right. You wish the game would have a nice night scene.

Or Ratatouille. Ugh. Yeah. They normally have like other stories. Ratatouille ruined the movie in a totally different way. That game was so bad. Pretty bad. I was so bad. Pretty bad. I was so mad at that game.

I won 1000, I won 1000, 1000, because I wanted to know I never had to touch the game again. I wanted to, I can wash my hands with this game and never see it. So what was so bad about 1000 pointing it? It was, like, it was so difficult. Like, there were certain things that were so impossible to do. I would, I would literally got to the point of frustration and throwing controllers and it's a kids game It's like platforming stuff and a big thing I think that I remember as being difficult is you had a thing where like you grit get a little umbrella

Like a little drink umbrella because you're a rat and you use that to kind of parachute from one part of the level to the other But you were drifting and you didn't have a whole lot of control over it like that kind of thing Are you trying to land on a little platform while you're drifting halfway across the map and oh you missed it by a pixel, spend the next 10 minutes getting back and ready to run again. They had like, they had like, chimps this kind of like, they had like a hundred collectibles at each level and there were a few like at the first time I played it through, I missed one collectible, I found it and couldn't get to it. Right. I

could see it and I could do everything up to that point, but I literally could not get back to it. Why not? It was a it was a mission specific thing We're like right yet to hit a certain thing. It'll make a fan turn on and move you fuck So you had to start a new place to start a brand new playthrough all over again and the collectibles don't carry over So we had to start over from scratch. Oh, I fucking sucks. Yeah, exactly. It made me so mad I like it it brought me to the point where I had a thousand so you don't like them in this game. Not at all. Well, what's going to suck? I know I have to spell Ratatouille in the fucking You know, that should be that should be one of those guidelines for achievement that if you have a

collectible that there's a point after the game which you can go back. Absolutely. And just get everything. Yeah, and it doesn't like it. Even Fallout has that where there's one of those Bobbleheads that if you don't get it during the mission, you can't get it. I thought there were two. There's a few others you can fuck up to. Like if you blow up Megaton, you lose a Bobblehead. It was a true. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's not good. I got the whole reason. Finch had to start like his fourth play to fall out. Fucking I gotta get it. They're done right. No more. up. They're done, right? No more games. Yeah, they're done. Mother Shabzaida was the last one. I think fall out, new Vegas is supposed to come out next year.

Oh, that's right. That sounds cool. Yeah. That's a brand new game. Yeah, it's not a Bethesda game. It's not developed by Bethesda, yeah. Huh. Really?

But they're overseeing the development. So what's Bethesda working on right now? Um, it's a good question. Wet two, maybe? A oblivion two. Or Elder Scrolls five. Now, who knows? Is that what it is? That would be it's all it would be yeah, you know at some point I tell myself I'm gonna go back and play with me and but I'm glad you guys are playing orange box because I have a thousand points in that and that was probably one of the hardest

Games to totally complete. Yeah, I got totally Totally sucked into team fortress when we played that that achievement. That was a lot of fun It was a ton of fun and I am gonna go back and there's only 17 achievements in team for just two But I'm gonna get every one of them just just cuz it's a blast just thank God that they don't have any of the achievements from the PC updates Oh, yeah, in the 360. It's okay. Those are impossible Hmm like I mean one of them is to get 30,000 damage points in one life as a heavy What? Wow, it's a ridiculous amount. Good Lord.

Maybe it's 3000. It's equivalent of killing like 30 or 40 people though. Yeah. Which is difficult to Jesus. Gully, did you see the link on Kotaku today about the guy who has all the achievements in World of Warcraft? Or there's one guy who's perfect at World of Warcraft other than the Feats of Strength. Okay.

I was going to say Feats of Strength. No, I did not see that. He's actually, he's missing one achievement, but there's a glitch where he gets an additional achievement, like he is like 195 of 194. So it like it makes up for it, but it shows that he's got perfect honors achievements. Yeah, it's a Korean player.

Yeah, wow. I knew that was possible. Apparently no one else did either. Yeah, I made it possible. I don't believe it. See, this is the thing too, where, Oh, he's Taiwanese, not either. Yeah, this guy made it possible. I don't believe it. See this is this is the thing to where he's Taiwanese not Korea. Oh, sorry You're so racist. I know pardon me. Let's see stats. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Taiwan's not even in Asia Jeff. The Well, this is the thing to we talk about by the way, no time wants an Asia

This is the thing though about achievements and anything video game related we always talk about this Jeff is that When you talk about it all day and how prardiar of stuff that you've done But the moment you hear about somebody who's done something that's better than you you're like, whatever. Yeah, absolutely I just I just a cheat Cheat I didn't think there was an end to the achievements and wow, that's why like I thought there was always more that could be tacked on I'm trying to pull up the story, but it's just not loading. It's like anytime I see somebody that has more gears to achievements than I do I'm like black box Cheater band are you going back to Halo and trying to perfect all of the Halo games now

Because of waypoint. Oh, I'm pretty close as it is. I've only need like Five achievements in Halo 3 and then I'm pretty far back. You perfected Halo Wars right? No, no, no, no, I have like 500, 400 points in Halo Wars. I got a ways to go on Halo Wars and then I got to finish out EST as well. Listen to some of these achievements in the heavy pack in the PC version of Team Fortress 2. Okay. Heal a thousand damage with medkits in a single life, which a single life is 100 points is what you have. Kill an enemy with a taunt. What?

Kill 20 enemies with a medic assisting you and neither of you die. How can you kill an enemy with a taunt? Taunt's not your damage, do they? I guess they do. I guess maybe they do a little bit of damage. Fire $200,000 worth of minigun rounds in a single life. I don't know what you know what that means Kill 50 enemies within three seconds of them attacking your medic take a thousand points of damage in a single life

So 10 lives worth of damage in one life. That's really I guess that goes along with that medic achievement. Yeah, I say if you have a healer on you. Yeah, it's crazy So that's nuts. Yeah, there's 35 of them, by the way. Speaking of 35 just heavy achievements, speaking of Team Fortress valve, like DLC achievements, do you guys think orange box is ever gonna get DLC? Not really, well, I think there was, I think valve is having a changing philosophy in that I always heard that orange box

was not gonna get DLC because valve was not allowed to put out free DLC. And that went against their personal philosophy. And yet I heard that, but they have left for dead paid DLC. Yeah, but I guess Orange Box is just never going to get DLC. Maybe in five years when Half Life 2 Episode 3 comes out. Yeah. Well they release portal as a separate deals, as a separate game, right? No it's a different game. It's a different game. It's got more levels. It's almost like the original portal with DLC on it. I forget what it's called.

It's still a lot. Yeah and that's an arcade game that you can help. Okay so as opposed to just the 19 levels there's actually more. Yeah. Okay cool. You? I'm just different. One of those arcade games that I bought and then just never loaded and played. Oh, really? Yeah, I still haven't bought it yet. So one of those ones that's on the list, I mean to get around to some day. How tough is the 18 gold medals in portal? I didn't do it, Bernie has. Apparently it's fucking tough. Very difficult. I seem to remember getting a thousand kills in Team Fortress 2 was the long part of that. And the other big achievement, so it was some in Half-Life about carrying the gnome all the way through the game.

That was very fun. And then there was one about playing an entire episode of Half-Life 2 with only using one bullet. And that's the episode one. Is it episode one? Yeah. And you have to use it to shoot a lock-off, that's it, that one bullet. And then the the

The last thing the very last thing I did was getting the gold medals in portal because I like that game I thought I'll just say that to the last and that was fucking impossible You took a long time took a very long time. What if you missed the lock in half-life two episodes? Can you reload a save or do you have to like I you reload a save how far in is the lock? I think it's like a third of the way through. I remember Bernie Bernie sitting at his desk and watching YouTube videos of people doing the gold medal runs on portal and Trying to like frame by frame up because they're moving so fast He couldn't understand what was happening. Yep, and also bitching. He was like that's obviously PC

You can't move that fast in the Xbox. It's impossible So to get a gold medal. What is that you have to let complete the course in a certain amount of time? There's different stuff. There's Spio's portals. There you go. There's Lee steps. Yeah, which I that sounds tough and then a quickest and it's like speed and then it's those three four six levels Got you. I think that is that right? Yeah. Yes. How many of them have you done Jack? I've done I I did the Portal one for the first level just to see what it was. And I think I got, I think I got a silver on it, even then.

Yeah. And I thought I, I thought I like couldn't do any better. So obviously I can. The least amount of portals is more of a puzzle one. The other ones are just FPS, Twitch skills of I'm through a portal. Now I fire another portal and I have to remember if I came into a red portal or came into a blue portal and I fire the opposite one So that I don't ever touch the ground. The least steps one is it hard It's probably the most frustrating to you because

Time makes sense least amount of portals makes sense, but the way in which the game measures a step isn't always Consistent but if you're running a distance, it's less steps. And if you're walking, it's more steps. Oh, wow. And then also if you're running and come to a stop, sometimes you take an extra step that you don't mean to take. And sometimes, anyway, I'll talk about it later. All right. But the measurement of how what a step is, little tough. Does the search have a line like that recreation does it? A step Measurement yeah, hey did you hear that a detail is singing about suing Microsoft? I did yeah Over those memory units that you guys bought

They make those third party memory units they got locked out of Xbox 360s and now they're they're upset about it They are suing them. It's not they're not thinking are they? Oh, they're actually art. I thought so a lot of people so in Microsoft story I read a couple days ago was before I guess they had officially done it But yeah, they're upset that third-party peripherals are locked out Let me read you something from Code junkies, which is the day-tell site. Okay, they're about which is the Datel site. Okay. They're about, like, what code junkies is about? I think code junkies was a show on adults.

Code monkeys, G4. I didn't have voice on that. Did you really? Yeah. So now you have another celebrity friend. Welcome to the web's number one destination for video game cheats and much, much more. Code junkies is the official home of action replay, the world's best selling cheat system, so you can always expect to see great codes and saves for the latest games as soon as they're released. You can

buy action replay and many more cool game enhancing products at our 100% secure online store Code junkies direct. So I don't really care the data got shut off. I don't even care that I own a detail memory card and it's useless now. Yeah. I mean this is a site where they want to push cheating. Yeah and that's the about section. I just read the about page of CodeJunkies.com which is download site for data. When they made their official response like the detail founder made his official response he didn't mention any of that. He only mentioned you know trying to offer more capacity extra functionality and and better value.

And that makes it more reasonably priceless. I agree with the capacity thing. I mean, 512 megs is your max right now. We talked about this last time on the podcast. It's ridiculous. Why is there not a four gig memory card that I can get for $50? Maybe it's on the way.

Is it? Do you know something I don't know? No. This is authored by the anymore room in the hard drive. I think before they need anything else. Make sure you tune into code junkies.com every day to receive your daily dose of game-busting cheat codes and game saves. Game saves. I mean, sheets. Yeah. And game saves. Why would anybody support these people for doing this? It's gonna ruin the system. Of course. Of course, Microsoft is going to shut the guy down.

I feel bad that we have that mimic card now. I didn't realize that's who it was. That detail? Yeah. I mean, we're actually a bad example because we're the example that they use of why they should be allowed to do it. Well, people just want more storage. It's their hardware that they will do what they want to with it.

But you and I agree, Jeff, that people should not be allowed to cheat on the system. No. And we appreciate that Microsoft will go out of their way to cut someone off at the past. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to.

They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to.

They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They have to. They don't. So I know I couldn't imagine anybody would support this lawsuit. And I don't think Microsoft will set a lot of court for something like that. Let them sue. What happened with your the lawsuit you guys are jumping into the patent one. We're not jumping in for some. We are not jumping into any lawsuit at all. Somebody on I think from a slash.forremember contacted us and said, would we be interested in helping? And they pointed out to us and directed us to the slash dot thread. We have not been contacted.

I thought you were contacted by someone working on. No, no, no, no. The EFF put out a call for people who own the patents to podcasting, which we clearly do. So clearly. So, clearly. So the people from, it's one of the readers from Slash.com came to us and pointed this out to us. And pointed to a thread where they were discussing Red versus Blue in that Slash.Form thread. You know, that's one thing we've never done in the, the time we've been working together is getting involved in litigation.

I think it's about time. Fuck yeah. We jump into that. You're buying a building. Was it Joel said last week you know you're a company when you get sued for the first I hope we never become a company. Yeah, same here Hey, I'm gonna say why it burning switching over here advisement of my lawyer But like I said if anybody wants to pay us for the patent of podcasting we'd be happy to sell it to you absolutely

What do we settle on seven billion dollars twenty seven billion dollars? sell it to you. Absolutely. What do we settle on? $7 billion? $27 billion. $27 billion. We want two million copies of Leifer Dead 2. That's what we want. I think that's fair. I think so too. By the way, Leifer Dead 2, I can't say enough. That game is really great. And if there's any complaints about that game not being anything more than a DLC pack for the first game, that is absolutely incorrect. I don't know how you can draw that conclusion of playing that game. You've been 10 minutes in that game and you can tell it's totally different right those levels are enormous and awesome They're great. There's a lot there's a lot of cool things they did like the dead center where you start in the building That's on fire dude. That's awesome

I knew like you like scale on the side of the building to get around into the rooms It's awesome experience doesn't feel like it has more of a story than the first love for dead as well. Yeah, I think so Yeah, I think the the characters acknowledge Cita a lot more in their dialogue. Yeah, and then there's that thing There's that thing in the final cutscene. Yeah, yeah, I haven't even touched the game But I'm not gonna mention anything, but there's a there's a whoa they throw some stuff out of that kind of interesting. It's all insane I interesting. It's all I'm saying. You want me to say it? I'll say it. I'll say it. I know you will. I know you will. I know you will. I just know just me, apparently. I'm maybe Bernie too. It does have a very cool cinematic theme, the whole game, but I like the idea that there's no plot to that at all. That it's just, they shouldn't name the game.

Instead of calling it left for dead, which I guess they're left, they get left in the city. Is that what happens or whatever? They should just call the game, get the game Get the fuck out because all you do is just we're just gonna get the fuck out Did you have you done the commentary for a leopard at to you? Yeah, not for the leopard at you I didn't want okay Well, they talk about in the commentary how they start each chapter point with the vehicle that you escape the previous chapter I did notice that when I played the second one Yeah, cuz they said they were trying to you know make it more of a coherent story and weave all the chapters together. Well, that's what they do with the DLC for the first one, right? Was they linked to chapters? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No mercy and

dead day. Dead air. Death hole. Death hole. Death hole. Like, you can just imagine too that they're in the room and they're like, here's what's gonna happen. We're in this room. We're safe. We're gonna leave the city. We're're just gonna get the fuck out. That's it, you see something and you shoot it. Just keep moving, keep your head down. You might see something on the ground, like a clue to what causes infection? Fuck that, leave that for somebody smarter than us. Leave that to the brainiacs.

Yeah, we're not gonna try to solve this thing. We're not gonna try to cure it. We're not gonna try to find the source of the infection. Get the fuck out. Get to the chop off. That's it. That's one the infection. Get the fuck out. Get to the chop off. That's one of the achievements, isn't it? Get to the chopper. Is it? It is for completing um...

You complete the final... Is it Parish? Yeah, complete the final run of Parish, uh, across the bridge into the chopper in less than three minutes. No, that's bridge over trouble slaughter. Oh, so let's see. Great achievement ain't it? I think, uh, get to the chopper just for completing that. Oh, just just a Completing it. Okay, it could be yeah, it's great though, man. I uh, I really enjoyed it. And I noticed Gus has a

screenshot as his desktop from the first love for dead. And it's from the I believe blood harvest level. Yeah, and what was interesting about that is that it's an older screenshot and it's all in daytime. Yeah, it's good. It's daytime and it's got Francis when he was still like scruffy. Yeah, you hit the big like scruffy beard. Yeah, it's good. It's daytime and it's got Frances when he was still like scruffy. Yeah, you hit the big like scruffy beard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they made a lot of change back when the original Lewis, the black guy in Leforded, he had dreadlocks. Oh, did he ever see that? I think I think you had that in the very first cinematic, which you guys can now watch because it's on orange box. Oh, cool. If you leave the main menu on orange box up long enough, get a trailer for left for dead and all the characters are different Really?

Not all of them. I think Zoe and Bill are kind of the same, but Francis and Francis and Lewis are definitely different. That's cool. I love going back and watching old game trailers Like it like the like the E3 announcement trailers and to see how things have changed like the brutal legend trailer the original brutal legend trailers pretty funny Oh, yeah, I don't know. Yeah It's like you know that was before they had jack black tied onto it and everything. And they still had some of the same whole ideas as far as the character models, but it's radically different from what it ended up as. You know, I, when I first became aware of Bungie, the people who made K-Lo, was when

they put out the trailer for O-N-E. You remember that? Yep, it's what I first became aware of, too. And major sections of that only trailer are not in the finished game. They weren't there animated portions of that trailer? No, no, no, there weren't. Yeah, there's a whole section where she fights

like an Ed 209 robot, not in the game, not in the final game at all. Huh. And I remember thinking, I can't wait to do that. I never made it all the way through to O.D. Ed 209 would be the big robot from Robocop. Yeah, and it looked just like that. Could have walked down stairs if I remember correctly.

It's a kill-y's. I'm over here trying to locate the original design of the survivors. There, I guess he doesn't have dreadlocks. He looks kind of like... Do you see Gavin's journal where they had to change the cover art in England for Lefforda too?

Yeah, that's a pretty fun one. Why? Because this is an insult to fuck you in England. Oh, it's like this now. It's like giving a peace sign instead of showing the back of the hand. What's that character's date on the far left? Uh, Lewis. Lewis looks sort of like Sam Jackson from coming to America. When he breaks into the uh the McDowell's.

Let me see that. You know, those characters are like pretty cool. I wonder where they change them. Uh, they probably wanted to look more like they were slice a life. Sure. into the McDowell's. Let me see that. You know, those characters are like pretty cool. I wonder where they change them. Uh, they probably wanted to look more like they were slice a life. Sure. Probably maybe they just the infection just started. Yeah. There's some of that stuff in left for it to where they start off not calling

them zombies or trying to figure out what has happened. Yeah. And they also in there when they're talking to introduce each other. Yeah. Like an elevator. And the elevator. Yeah. They'll introduce each other. Yeah, like an elevator. Yeah, an elevator, yeah. They'll introduce each other. Yeah, like, I like Lewis's final look.

He's like the disgruntled office worker almost. Yeah, it looked like a guy who's like, oh, I just dropped my briefcase and picked up a m16 and started shooting me. So it's sort of like Sean of the dead almost. Like sort of like he just got off work and started beating people with cricket bats. I was going to say falling down.

Yeah, good call. Good call. So Gus and I played Left for Dead 2 the other day and I made an effort not to be a bad player. Do I? It was good. It was a pleasant experience. Like when we ended up on the same team, I thought, here we go.

Dude, by the way, Bernie's always like, Jeff and I never played video games online together. There might be a reason. That's how I'm saying. I don't think, I get enough stress in the back office every day. I don't take it home with me. I just don't see you online ever. I'm saying, I don't think, I get enough stress in the back office every day. I don't take it home with me. I just don't see you online, ever.

I never see you online. I think Jeff might make himself appear offline a lot. Oh, I appear offline. Yeah, but not for my friends, do I? Yeah, you do. During the team fortress thing we were doing, you were off the whole time. It was a pain in the ass for me. Oh, I'm sorry.

Is that what's going on? I have it set to appear offline, yeah. Yeah. Because that way, because half the time I'm playing on the Capturing Achievement 100 videos, and so I'm anything I can do to lessen like, screen pops that come up. You're so popular. No, no, not at all.

I'm not saying that, but it's just like, it's distracting when you're making a video to have somebody send you a message. Can we just reiterate Microsoft, please get rid of the friend notification or at least allow us to turn that off? Yeah. I wanna say that every time I'm on the podcast, please get rid of that. And I'll continue

to end it out. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, if I'm making more work for you, then that's cool. Either way, it works. It's a win-win for Jeff. Yeah. You guys remember a few weeks ago, maybe a month ago at this point, we talked about the kid who killed all those cats. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He is in court now. Really? Yeah. So like a video of this guy going to court. Is he creepy? Does he look like Damien? Well, I'll say exactly what I said the last time looks like a normal kid to me Just looks I don't see the photo of him and go. Oh, yeah, cat killer Yeah, he's got a copy of monowarfer to in his hand. What does that mean? That's terrible You know, I wouldn't be surprised with infinity war look at this dude. Look at the bay lift in the background

Wow, awesome Yeah, but he's in his little you know red jumpsuit, you know going into court and I wouldn't be surprised at infinity war. Look at this dude look at the bay lift in the background. Wow awesome Yeah, but he's in his little you know red jumpsuit, you know going into court and standing trial for killing What was it? 300 cats or something? Is it? How many cats do you kill? I don't remember it's been a while. Yeah, he killed too many cats It was a string of cats. Have you ever ever had a cat with your car? Yes, it's the worst feeling ever I've did I had I've had cats my whole life. And to kill someone's cat, it crushed me. I've never killed... well, I had a mercy killing once.

When I was in high school where I saw a car hit a kitten and the cat was like flopping around on the ground. So I had to like... It was brutal to watch, so I had to like literally stop in the street back up and... And... Cut. What a fucking downer it is! It was hard break it was heartbreaking. Yeah, I felt terrible How do you know the cat was gonna die because its neck was broken and it was like it was on the ground

And it's legs are flippin' of your steering wheel Kidding just off it then you made this analysis. Kitten gets hit by a cargo in 50 miles now. It's gonna die No, it's not yeah, dude. Yeah, it was it was blood everywhere It was like fuck I had to stop and look at it that cat was broken in like 80 places It was just getting better from the nose. It was fucking horrible. Let's go. Let's do lunch So Dubai's in financial trouble Who can see that coming? What are they oh Gus? It's like 60 billion dollars and they can't make their loan payments.

So they're asking for a $60 billion. That's nothing. What do you think a loan payment is on $60 billion? Let me try to figure it out for you. Well, based on my mortgage, I would guess it's like $2,000. Let me see. I'll do a great mortgage then. But he's going to look at the amortization of it.

How long is the loan for? Do you think it's just like a 30-year fix rate? I don't think so. I bet it's a little more complicated than thatization of it. How long is the loan for? You think it's just like a 30 year fix rate? I don't know. I bet it's a little more complicated than that. $60 billion loan, you said? Yeah. OK. I'll forget this out here.

Dubai's where they have the big ass tower, right? Like the tallest building in the world. Yeah. The birds do buy. Somebody pointed out that in Dubai, they have debtors' prisons, which could be a very big deal for now people who are only on $1.00 billion loans. Yeah.

And debtors prisons, we don't have those in the US. I don't think they have in a lot of places where you get a jail for having debt, not paying it. In America, they just destroy your life in other ways. So before you get too far away from it, did you see the, have you seen the video of the guys' base jumping off that tower? No. Like, while they were constructing it, like two or three guys made it to the top

and jumped off. Oh, it's just awesome. Okay, let's say it's actually some people say it's closer to $80 billion and it's trying to get creditors to give it a six month standstill on four billion dollars worth of debt. Let's say it is $60 billion alone. Okay. And let's say you were paying a seven percentage of a good commercial rate. You want it amateurized over 30 years or 15 years, probably 30. That's your 30. They would probably do 30.

They could have a seven year balloon payment or something like that. Your monthly payment on a $60 billion loan amateurized over 30 years. 30 years, seven percent interest. $399 million a month. Oh, no. No way. No, holy shit. You can understand why that would be difficult 7% interest 399 million dollars a month No way yeah, you can understand why that would be difficult to pay that off

What the fuck? That's a roughly 400 million a month so you're paying 4.8 billion dollars a year Yeah, go see you if you God, that's like that's a lot of money over Let's try to figure out what you paying interest over the the course of your love. Over 30 years. That's close to 145 billion dollars. You got like 85 billion in interest. You got 60 billion in property to run out though. So I can't wait to hear what the actual interest is on that. I'm trying to get to it. So if we start in 2,000, 12 payments, year, three years, those are the payment number 355. Kids call your parents.

This is the portion of the podcast they're interested in. You will have paid in interest on the loan, $83 billion at the end of the day. And my head, I was only $2 billion off. That's pretty good, right? Nice, yeah. Well, I mean, it's just you know what I'm mortgage, so. Wow. But that's not how nice. Yeah. Well, I mean it's just you know what I'm mortgage so wow But that's not how commercial loans work

But they get another place, but it's for it to calculate like you're having a house And what you would have to be awesome house though $60 billion house you're building dollar house. I don't know I saw sunshine. That's another movie Oh, what did you think of it and they talked about how they used every bit of fissile material in the world to make this bomb This is a movie by Danny Boyle. I think came out 2007 Sounds about right and it's got more feeling Murphy and it's about Has a dude from Fantastic Four and it too. It has a human fortunate. Yeah, yeah It's the Sun is dying and this is the second mission that they're sending to restart the sun.

The first mission, something went wrong, they don't know what. And they're going out there. It's almost like 2010 in a way. Kind of, yeah. Basically sending a bomb into the sun to reignite it is what the theory is. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, that's a cool purpose.

Did you like it, Bernie? Yes, but it was way too heavy on visual effects. You think so the Danny Boyle kind where they just shake the camera Yeah, and you can't you you can't see some stuff that you want to see I saw I saw that maybe about six months ago, and I thought that you would really enjoy it I'm a sucker for sci-fi. Yeah, I'm a big time sucker for I saw that in a very very cool experience actually when EA flew me out to check out dead space did Todd from 30 Rock take you to know when EA flew me out to check out Dead Space. Did Todd from 30 Rock Take You to Stalk? No.

The night before we watch all the Dead Space stuff, or we'll play the Dead Space the next day, they showed in the EA Big Theater in San Francisco. They showed us Evil Dead 2 and then Sunshine. To like, prep us for the next day to play Dead Space. That's like cool. When I was in the Army the night before I qualified on my rifle for the first time,

they showed us full metal jacket. The army showed you full metal jacket? How did you start to feel about that? I don't know, they were like the preface for a while for a while. They just pumped us up, they showed us full metal jacket. How did the fact I screws everything up? Think about that. Was he happy?

It's probably smart to do that. They probably just wait for the scene in the bathroom, you know, with what's the private, what's the name? Private pile. Private pile. They wait for the scene in the bathroom. They wait for the one guy. Vincent Wungai. The one guy watching and he goes, yes!

And he's like, this guy out. There's a lot of that that goes on by the way. People excited about it? No, no, no, like, scenes like what happened in the bathroom. In real life? No, there's a lot of suicides and stuff, but there's also like a lot of blanket parties and that kind of shit. That was a pretty true to life movie, the first 45 minutes. I a lot of suicides and stuff, but there's also a lot of blanket parties and that kind of shit.

That was a pretty true to life movie, the first 45 minutes. I can't speak to the war stuff since I've ever been a war, but yeah. And it sounds like a commercial for the army. I want to join. Your time in war was marked by pushing female reporters down and scrambling into a armoured armoured and no barriers, too.

Have you guys talked about how the dude who does the army commercials, like the voice over guy for the army commercials, is in Modern Warfare 2. No. Keith something, what's his name? Keith David. Keith David. Yeah, he's an arbor.

He's in a lot of videos. He does a lot of videos. He does a lot of videos. Actually, Bernie and I went and saw 2012 the other day. And before the movie started, there was a like a three or four minute long ad for, I think it was the Army. And all the fonts, like it was like, you all the fonts like it was like you know a courage like you know Whatever it was the modern warfare to font. Oh really? Yeah, and smart. Yeah. Oh, yeah, but call that smarking

No, I just made that up Yeah, you should try to give that domain I don't know I felt it's market it's smart I've been I've been played a lot of modern warfare to also I've been like temperate my liver dead to with with some modern warfare to have you played the Marketing comm is registered just so you know, oh damn it. Have you played the the Colot mode? No, I played the first one then I realized it was way too hard so I just played spec ops play caught It's so much fun. Oh the was it the sixth mission the sixth one where you were in the AC 130 and I was running around It is that is a unique gaming experience. Yeah, it is awesome

It was terrifying and and hilariously fun. Yeah, you remember the level in Call of Duty, Mara Waffer? Uh, where, of course, where you were in AC 130? Yeah, imagine that, like, I was in the AC 130 playing that mission, and Jack was the guy on the ground watching the bombs fall around them. Actually, I'm gonna cut that video today, we'll do VO for it. So that'll be up maybe in time for the link. One of the best game experiences I've ever had, that particular level. Yeah.

Huns of fun. Yeah, and that, like that like you know sitting there watching Jeff just unload on bad guys from the air and then like okay, it's clear and then I'd run out and then I had a laser where you actually point it stuff like can you what's over there and he'd look and then just fire at whatever I was pointing at. Nice. Yeah, that was so cool. It was really cool. Like I want to go back and play that level again right now. I know. And then trade spots and then just shoot a Jeff. Oops, sorry. I know. And then trade spots and then just shoot a Jeff. Oh, sorry. Really fire.

So I asked for topics for the drunk tank. Okay. And so I've been reviewing a few of these. You'll be happy to know, Jeff, that one of the first things that was asked about was, I want to hear more about Jeff's play through with Griffin of Fable 2. So are you serious? DMZilla asks for that, actually.

Oh, okay. You know, I'm Microsoft Chrony, though. Come on. I feel like I should, I'll dare you. I feel like it should issue an apology because I quoted D. M. Zilla without crediting him. Oh, yeah, what did she do there? I talked about the Modern Warfare 2 boycott where people were playing Modern Warfare 2

even though they were listed in the boycott group. And you can see in the members list what they were playing. And they were playing Modern Warfare 2. And he said, he was the one who said, this is why they don't take online boycot seriously. Oh, online. Online, in addition seriously, and you link to it.

So, and I said, I had read that. I think I credited a dig as I said it. It was not. It was actually the Mzilla. It was Twitter. That's what it was. With an ad the Mzilla on it. But people wanted to the recipe for my jalapeno turkey.

Basically, it's, I just take a turkey, a regular like 12 to 16 pound turkey. And the very, very, very important part of it is that you have to get all of the ice and water out of it. So you have to kind of dry it out with a paper towel and set it on the counter for like three or four hours even after you thought to make sure it completely dries out. Yeah, because then it'll splatter if you don't do that, right?

Yeah, because I end up frying the thing in a big stock pot full of peanut oil. But I, but it's like a flaming murder pot. Yeah. The big thing is to warn all the kids because we had like 10 kids running around for Thanksgiving and a warning to stay the hell away from this. That would be a life changing event to get 350 degree oil dumped on you. But I think life changing is an understatement. Yeah, that's a Canadian PSA.

You try to trust the stress of the kids and you see the one kid who's telling them this is really bad. Don't get near this and then they get that gleam in there. I know like look you do not look you're get inside. We're gonna chain you to a post on the inside of the house somewhere so you can't come on there and screw with this thing. But we inject I inject kind of this marinade with jalapeno in it all throughout the turkey and then let that sit overnight and before I completely thought out and then I take it out dry it, re-inject it again with this jalapeno stuff and this time I took fresh jalapenos, slice them and put them underneath the skin of the turkey so it had like this nice like little jalapeno kind of design. was awesome dude you could you did it on one half yeah, right?

Because you want to make it too spicy, but I would go the whole world. I'd go with the whole turkey Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, it's a little slight. I got you stole that from on a matchwife Because when you're shooting put little bay leaves underneath the skin of the turkey It looked like something out of a Martha Stewart magazine. So I you kind of you can't eat bay leaves though right you have to take them out Yeah, you do have to take them out you can why can't you be bay leaves? You bay leaves? I think if you eat too many it's poisonous. Yeah, they're just for flavor. She's poison flavor. And then you deep, I deep fry it and frying a turkey makes it awesome and it's not as greasy or gross as it sounds. It's just super tender. Yeah, I had your turkey once and I totally agree. I got to reinforce that sentiment. Like I thought it would be like fried chicken. It's not. No, it's not. Just tender juicy turkey. Because the grease is like on the outside and then you end

up with turkey, you don't just sit there and just pick it up and chew it like you do with chicken, you know. You slice it. So you don't you don't you end up with the meat and not the skin and stuff like that. I'll look right at the skin with the jalapenos on it. Yes, he did. Yeah. And it's really fast too, because it cooks about three minutes a pound. So a 12 minute turkey takes about 65 minutes. A 12 pound turkey. 12 pound turkey takes about 36 minutes. That's fast.

Yeah, I'm a monthly payment of 399. So that's my recipe. And the other thing they also, the big question people know is what are good gifts for the holidays. You guys have any thoughts on that? I can think of a couple. The Reversus Blue Recreation ArtiShirts bundle. You guys have any thoughts on that? I can think of a couple the Reverse blue recreation arti shorts bundle $30 the new shirt the new shirts are actually really good. Ask me about my zombie plan. We have a drunk tank shirt drunk tank shirt That's also awesome the

The comic year one through three bundle, you know this podcast is brought to you by the drunk tank It's true. Have you seen the pinning arcade the like the professional gaming shirts? Have you seen the Penny Arcade, the professional gaming shirts? Have you seen those? Yeah, first party. First party. That's a really cool idea. Did you see? You might not notice.

I don't know if you looked at their website for that burnier Jeff. Great things to buy after you buy Red versus Blue and Creation and RT shorts on DVD. They had cranky model, their first party stuff. Oh, did they really? Yeah, on their website.

You know, I got the, he's not cranky anymore. No, no. He's actually pretty happy, guys. Yeah, now that he hasn You know, I got the... He's not cranky anymore. No, no. He's actually pretty happy, guys. Yeah, now that he hasn't worked for a couple of years. He's a cool guy. Yeah. Someone, one of the guys in your journal thread here wanted to just talk about Blu-ray movies

we would recommend, which made me remember that I bought Star Trek on Blu-ray. Oh, so good. When it came out, then that movie's incredible. I watched it five times that I got it. Really? It looks so good. When it came out, then that movie's incredible. I watched it five times that I got it. Really? It looks so good, too. And it's got like a separate disc with just like bonus feature stuff. And they showed a lot of like, you know, the real life locations they used

for interiors of ships. So like for the Kelvin, they used in a, I guess, the Long Beach power plant. And for the interior of the enterprise, they use a Budweiser brewery. Really? Yeah, so that's why liquid Scotty is in the tube with all the liquid. Those are big brewery tanks you see all over the place behind them. And like Uhera's desk is in front of a big tank where it's like 41 degrees where they chill the beer. That's awesome. That's funny.

Smart. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, and they just put decals on the tanks. That must have been fun like being the set designer that got to try to figure out where to film the stuff and just take tours of factories. I would just imagine they built everything. Yeah, that's it.

But also, and then like I went back and watched the movie after I saw that, I was like, that's totally a power plant or that's totally a brewery. How come I didn't see this the first time through? Now you ruined it. Everybody else. It's really weird to see it. Yeah, there's a bit on the bonus features that the unit cool screening they did with Leonard

D. Moye and what's his name. When they were showing, they said they were going to show Wrath of Khan and then surprise, here's Leonard D. Moye and here's the first screening of the new Star Trek movie for the world. And some of that stuff's on the bonus features. Oh cool, I might not have seen that yet. I'll have to keep watching. It's a lot of stuff. I'll keep watching. Actually, next weekend I'm going to button number thon, so I'm on the bone. Oh, cool. I might not have seen that yet. Yeah, it's a lot of stuff. I keep watching.

Actually, next weekend, I'm going to button number phone. So I'm excited about that. Oh, you got in? Yeah, I got in. What are they showing? Any idea? Well, you got to figure Sherlock Holmes comes out like two weeks after button number phone. Which, the guy Richie Sherlock Holmes? Yeah, the new one. So that's two.

That's a definite possibility. There's two. There's a Sasha Bancone Sherlock Holmes coming out as well. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, well, this is the guy Richie one. Oh well this is the guy Richie won. Oh this is the guy Richie won. Yeah yeah the Jude Law guy Richie won and Rachel McCattons. And then Avatar is coming out the week after so we might get that early.

Expendables is a possibility because he's good friends with Stallone. I don't know. Well we'll see. I'm excited. Cool. Hopefully we won in with Shay too. Are you are you not going this year Bernie? No no no I no, I can't handle it. Yeah, I went two years in a row. You went to probably the worst button on a thon. That was the last one you would. I don't think I could do it. Even on the best channel. I don't think I could do it. I just I'm too impatient and fidgety. You have to admit when you're not man enough or something and I am not man enough for the button on my phone because 24 hours

is sitting in one seat. I wish it we should explain what button on my phone. Yeah, there's there's people who would rather have that seat and would appreciate it more than I do and I liked it I just don't I I'm not capable of it and I have to admit that yeah, I Couldn't I don't know the attention span for that Harry has a birthday party where he throws a 24 hour Movie marathon and it's amazing the films that he gets for this thing where The year that I went the first year that I went they had 300 about six months before 300 was out in theaters. Some Tim graphics and stuff towards Ian. Yeah there was even a completed visual effects and Black Snake Mow and that's where we

saw that and then Rocky 5 and so it's it's a lot of fun and if you can get in there's a large application process that you have to go through. I did 9000 people for 200 seats. Did count 3D get in this year? I don't think so. Because he got to go last year. You probably would have made a journal about it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited. That's why you have that bald picture of yourself as your profile. Yeah, yeah. This year it's B-Not-11 and Harry is turning turning 38 so it's 1138 so everyone is supposed to submit a photo of themselves bald from like THX 1138. Wow really. Yeah so that's why I evolved. Yeah and so like the poster this year is made up to look like THX 1138 and that was the idea behind it like we're all getting badges with our names and our photos on them and stuff.

Yeah they've gone they've gone all out. Cool. Yeah. I'll let you know how it goes next weekend. Awesome. One year and they give away stuff too. One year we got everyone in the theater got an HD DVD player. Oh, that's the first year you went. Right. No, the second year you went, second year I went. Yep. They just gave us all H.C. Which in hindsight, maybe. And then the next month, H.C. DVD players were discontinued pretty much. It was almost immediately. I think you went into December.

And I think the next January is when they stopped. Man, whatever happened with that, the HD DVD for Terminator 2, they showed us. Remember that? We yet, we had a demo, like someone from the, I guess, the HD DVD collective or whatever came out and kind of was speaking the praises of HD DVD and why this is the next step forward. And they showed us a HDDVD being worked on it was a new Terminator one and it was actually really cool. He showed some neat feature Terminator salvation

No, no, no, no Terminator 2 Well, that's that's available on blue right now, so they must have I'm sure they moved it I'm sure they moved it on blue you think you think it's everything you saw Yeah, they showed like cool stuff like when you're watching the movie Some people put in infographics a pop-up. I think they showed us Miami Vice as well. Yeah, yeah, that was a thing. And it was pretty cool. But I have to say, I bought that Sony 3.

There's Sony PlayStation 3. And now is just my Blu-ray player. And I gotta say it's worth it. Really? Blu-ray is awesome. It is by far the cleanest looking image that I've ever seen from anything. Yeah, I should lend you that Star Trek Blu-ray. Yeah, I'm on Netflix Blu-ray now, so I'll just get into that.

Okay, it looks gorgeous. Yeah, I'm really surprised by it. Last time I watched Sunshine and everything, when the logo, like the water breathers logo comes up, nothing looks that good. It's, she cable doesn't look that good, movies that I've downloaded, even through my Xbox. So, they just don't look that good. H.E. cable doesn't look that good. Movies that I've downloaded, even through my Xbox. They just don't look that good. H.E. streaming I've used is a new Zoom marketplace, the 1080p underman.

And it looks great, but then you look at it next to physical media. Does it look better than HD DVD did? Because when they came out, we did a bunch of tests in the office and we all agreed that HD DVD looked better movie to movie than Blu-ray did Yeah, at least on the movies we check with just Superman the mission impossible and a couple of those Yeah, like all the ones that were available on DVD HD DVD and Blu-ray. It's also now the standard Yeah, you know, so there's nothing there's no deciding

It's gonna make one version or the other version, you know, yeah, we set up I don't I think I was gonna I was thinking about writing something up for the site for it But then decided not to but I set up all of those movies with like the same scene on the one on the same TV, and it showed everyone in the office and asked them which one looked best and which one looked worse and everyone always ranked the HDBD is the best. Did you tell him which one was with? No, no, no, no comparison, by the way. And everyone picked HDBD, Blue Ray, then DVD. I remember mission impossible, three particularly particularly it was very grainy Yeah, the night stuff when he's on the building We have to like reach the extraction point and I hold that whole scene is what we looked at and it looked really grainy on the on the p s3 Yep, but yeah, it looks much better now. I don't know

Format formats format for matureing I guess well, but like bunny points out they only have to develop for one format now So there was a recent kind of scare where Someone leaked that I think is bomber leaked that they were going to make a blue ray Xbox Oh, right. They're gonna have some kind of add-on component and then they were very quick to shush that thing No, we're not going to I hope they do I really do Yeah, I was a part of those right now What they could I ask you know what though? I like watching blue rays on my PS3 because my PS3 is almost silent That's true

Well, and my Xbox is really loud. But if it was an add-on drive, you could work on that, you know, like you could make a silent drive. If they put it out today, if they put out a new 360, that was a redesign, like the slim. And it was more reliable because I'm sure they'd fix that right away. It was quieter and had blue ray. Would you buy it? Yeah, absolutely. If I would buy it, if it was just quieter, I blu-ray. Would you buy it? Yeah, absolutely. I would buy it if it was just quieter

I almost Alone I almost do it for me the other day about the Call of Duty 360 just because it's got a 250 in hard drive. Yes, and I was like I was standing in best my look And I was like why you own four 360s? You don't be retarded don't buy this. I really wanted to get it my stepfather bought that day 60. Yeah, I would kill to have the hard drive And it's like very special with games on the man now. Yeah, it's really starting to start to add up in the comments here of when I asked for topics for a drunk tank somebody said how do you know when a game is done with DLC

so that you know you can sell it is what he put sure my thing is now for games on demand how do you know it's done so you can delete it and that's a nice thing or you know you can give it to Gus or whatever could you read download on games on demand I bet yeah sure it does a problem with fable where you don't you have to know where the links are to get episodes two through five so you have to play through again so there is a chance that you could break your game by you know deleting it and then they put out the else you say oh read download it and you can't you download everything yeah and you can't use your character you can't even load your character

so you'd have to know the links which somebody gave me the links they're not published anywhere you know very obvious the they're hard to find I think you found them on the publishers forum man I can't wait till we get new releases on games on the man yeah I know I I wonder to because I just put out Lego Indiana Jones on games on demand. That seems a little disingenuous. I don't know if that's right. Where do you think you're saying? Because you know,

people accidentally buy it, they're gonna get the new one. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. Do you feel cheated? Erick, will you feel, feel cheated if the games on a man cost the same as retail? No.

Really? No, no. No, no. You get no physical media, you get no instruction media, you get no instruction manual, no box stuff. I don't have the last time you read an instruction. Oh, no, it's having all that stuff. I just throw away instantly. As soon as I get at home, I take the discount, put it in my, you know, big book of games, and I just throw the case

away. That other shit is just like, it's just ends up in a lamp. I look to see if there's like a DLC code in it or for like a shirt or whatever, and I like, there's nothing thrown away. Wow. Remember, he came in yesterday and told me that he bought a new album. Oh, yeah, I'm talking about Jack here Jack said he bought a new album Cage the elephant cage the elephant and he there's a song on there that's the theme from Borderlands Or not a theme, but it's a primary song they use the Borderlands, which I haven't played the game But I love the song and he brought in the disc and said look I brought this and I said well I already bought it here on iTunes I showed him that I had purchased it on iTunes already and He said well this was only nine bucks, you know 999 same price a digital album and I said why would you buy a physical album when you can buy it digitally?

Yeah, if it was the same price I'd buy it for the lack of DRM No, there's no DRM on the new stuff you buy from I just yeah, it's gone now But I just couldn't you know I would never you guys remember when we buy games together back when we're to the call center We'd go out a lunch and buy a new release or something. I would make you guys wait while I threw it away Through away everything in the parking lot. Yeah, yeah, and I would walk away with just a disc Yeah, that's true because I didn't want all those boxes in my life. I don't either It just takes up space. It's not important. And games used to be in bigger boxes. Yeah. Some of them still do like warcraft times bigger boxes

and things like that, but they used to be in, you know, they weren't just in dual cases. You know, they were in big old boxes. But the same time too, so we were talking about moving. You have four X boxes. Now, if you buy a game online only, it's only attached to one X box, and you have to re-download it every time you want to play it.

That's a little bit of a pain or just switch out hard drives You could do that takes about two seconds for me to take my living room hard drive into my bedroom or switch out discs It's the same thing switch. That's the same thing. Yeah, switching out hard drive is just as easy switching out of disc And by the way, we are not the standard users. Yeah Most people have one Xbox you download it and everybody has access to it. Yeah, so I I think games on demand is awesome. I really do. Oh, no, I love the idea like I'm excited for it. You know what I was thinking about the other day or actually it was earlier today. You know, we talked the other week about how the Xbox 360's four years old now Didn't the Xbox 360 come out four years after the original Xbox came out? Is that true?

2001. Yeah, so it came out. Is that true? It's like 2001. Yeah, so it came out, it had a four year lifespan. You know, the world is four years into the 360s lifespan. And you know, only three years into the PS3s lifespan. But I can't imagine either of those devices being replaced. Feels like we're scratching the surface, right? It seems like there's always updates for these, for both of these consoles.

And they're like the functionality is constantly being increased. Yep, I don't, yeah, I don't, like, I don't want a next generation of consoles. Yeah, like I look at games and it looks great. Left-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right-right I can't imagine I mean I thought the same way when we had when I had a dream cast I thought well this is as good as games are gonna look I wouldn't need anything more than this I certainly feel that way now so maybe in three or four years when we see what's next will yeah But they're constantly updating the interface like the dreamcast was a static system It's like now that's it. You know everyone has the internet and everything has broadband built into it It's like you know the Xbox got you know new Xbox experience the PlayStation 3 got crossed new bar for all of its game I'm a little scared of like an Xbox 720 because I like the current system so much

and I don't know that they won't fuck with things like achievements and avatars. I don't know how that's just gonna be a good thing. There's no way they're gonna keep all the gamer score achievements. I would hope so, yeah, but you never know. Well, they still need to improve the achievement system. They do, they do.

Because now the focus on DLC and it's really affecting the way you measure gamer score. And you know, when you look at that stuff. And it's been a witch. I have a lot of like 1300 point games now. It's just they don't make as much sense as they used to. I have 1255 and fabled to out of the box in Dragon Age Origins. You know you get a thousand points in that game. Some of the achievements in that thousand are DLC

achievements. Really? Yeah that's fucked up. Yeah. Wow. That's not I don't think I thought that was against the rules of the game. I thought it was 3dllc right if you bought the game retail it came with a code for the DLC I think it's to deter second-hand say yeah, it's flux games that so if you bought the game new you get the DLC for free in the box, but if you bought the game used there's no DLC in the box I have to pay 15 bucks to get the DLC. Okay, okay, that's really interesting. Yeah, I thought it was really bizarre. I don't know that I don't like that. I think that's kind of a need of approach. Yeah, that's one of the things I look for in the box before I throw it away. Is there a DLC in here? That game immediately came out with more DLC too, right? It's kind of like 1100 points right now. It has a DLC salesman

in it. Yeah, like make camp. There's like a dude who's like, oh, I need help in the mountains. I definitely need to pay 10 bucks to come. I definitely don't like that about it Like you told me that when you went to enter in that DLC He had a DLC code he can't go into Xbox live and enter an envy a dashboard He has to do it through a different system in the game. You have to sign into a server and do it in the game And you have to have an EA account to do that. No, okay. I don't like it now. Yeah, I don't like it. It's terrible Now Assassin's Creed 2 is you play which is the the Ubisoft thing Don't like that either. Well, it's kind of a cool idea though

I it's like I don't like the idea of having to create another account But it's like as you do things in the game you're awarded with points that you can then use to purchase things in Assassin's Creed 2 like another another thing of armor It's one of the things I made fun of the PS3 4 and specifically middle gear solid Yeah, I agree and I feel it would be too blissful for me not to be upset with the Xbox. No, no, no That's with Jack. Why don't just why not just unlock stuff then? Well, that's what that's what it's basically doing. Yeah, no, it's not it's making an account in a separate service You have to have a you play account to do it. Yeah, yeah, see like now you have to have a rock star social club account for all the GTA stuff

If you want to check your shit you got to have a you play account account. You gotta have an EA account. I just want to play my Xbox Yeah, I just want to next book. I thought the Xbox live account was supposed to do all that I have an email address associated with the Xbox I'm not I'm not gonna play Assassin's Creed you know because you said that That's not much. I just like that idea that I mean that's just bonus stuff It's not like it has nothing to do with the actual achievements or anything in the game If like in in most games what you're talking about what you just described is You get money in the game and then buy things in a store in the game.

That's in every game, you have that. Yeah, where you purchase items, fall out, I can purchase things with bottle caps. You know, world of warcraft, I can purchase things with gold. I don't need to get a real world point system through an account. What is the point there to make it like, like what's their goal in that?

It also carries over to the other Ubisoft games that's it so like if like if you do stuff in Assassin's Creed you get points that like if I go play uh Rainbow Six 2 or or what it's Rainbow Six Vegas 2 or the splinter self conviction when that comes out you can use stuff to help you in those yeah they're just making private sub networks basically put it put that sub network in your games making a different option than the fucking minu-list. All right, well we're running long guys. Is there anything else we should talk about before we uh, put up here? No, they were good. No. I'm hungry. All right, well thanks for listening everyone. Thanks.

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