Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #44

Episode Date: January 13, 2010

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie comes the new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-oxane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnett, and Thomas Hayden Church.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Twisted metal, now only on peacock Welcome to the RISPY podcast Hey, I am Jeff Ramsey Gustav Rola Don't have a... I'm Jenny McCurkey Felicity Huffman. I'm Olivia Munn. I would totally do Bernie this week. Yeah, I would do myself.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Wave forms are all over the plate. I'm very wary of big, good food ban. You know, the good thing is that the sheep is like screaming every time you have the water. This is pretty urge. I'm not the mean-naked moody anymore. If there is a god, I'm sure he'll prove. I might be the most uncomfortable person I've ever experienced. No one's trying to steer their cloud song, we're all friends. Hey everyone, welcome to the Drug Tank, the Rooster Chief Podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Video games, movies and stuff too. Is it over? Thanks for sticking with us through our longest intro ever. Kidding. Thanks, Kimo Sabi with two a's Keith Keith Mo Sabi Keith Lewis. Oh, I feel like we're starting the second drunk tank of the day Oh, man, what's up guys? How's everyone doing? Hey everybody. I'm doing good. I'm doing well Speaking of drunk tanks. This I haven't used a segue in a while Jeff are burning
Starting point is 00:02:23 Hey Jack I was telling these guys before you got in this morning that I was listening to a local like morning show on the radio As I was driving in morning zoo and they were saying I guess that the Austin police department is doing like Field sobriety training for its cadets this Friday So they're taking volunteers and you can go out there to the school where all the cadets train and volunteers and you can go out there to the school where all the cadets train and APD will give you all the booze you can drink between 4.30 pm and 11 pm. No, you have. Yeah, they're like they're gonna have a margarita machine. Oh, alcohol, mixers, and then they're gonna monitor you and give you feel sobriety test every so often. Company trip, man. So the reason Gus is bringing
Starting point is 00:02:59 it up is we have to have a shaperone and that's and I have nominated you to be our shaperone. Well, because I've already been through the field to pretty good. You already know how not to do it. And the big catch is you have to show up on an empty stomach. Oh, man. I can do that.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I'm still looking for a link or trying to find more information. I haven't found any corroborating information. It's Friday. Let's do that. That's going to be the most Apple. Most applications, A, B, D, is for anything ever. So I'll see if I can find some information.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Hopefully we can read up a little more on it. See if we can see the giant line in front of the arch is going to be just moved. For the kid at center. I think they're training facilities down by the airport. Verlison somewhere. No, that's a long one. If you drunk and steal a plane.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Let's get drunk and go to California. This is our national treasure three, right? You drunk and steal a plane. It's a sort of national treasure three, right? Yeah. You drunk and seal a plane and seal a declaration of independence. Well, you know, some people are belligerent drunk. So there's a good chance that they could get all these drunk people together and then they have to arrest people who hang out to do their thing, right? That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I think that might be part of the whole, like, having a chaperone issue. It's like, they need someone you know to help calm you down if you get fucked up. Are we allowed to film this? I mean, would be in trapment if you know you go out there They just like you booze your honor the cops got me drunk I don't know what happened. That's why I have to film it right? They usually do that for Warrants where they would send people tickets to some kind of price thing and then they would show up And they just arrest everybody. Yeah, this some kind of price thing and then they would show up and they'd just arrest everybody.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Yeah. This feels kind of like the same thing. I don't know why. I don't know why you guys are getting all excited about getting drunk. I think that's immature. I just want to help the community. Yeah. They're way to take the high road.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah. But yeah, so I think Jack is qualified, the most qualified to be our shaperone. I think so too. You're welcome. Because we can have the biggest vehicle. I can drive while you drunk assholes. What is the chance you're going to have a field full of drunk people and somebody's not gonna lip off to the cops? I mean what's the likelihood of that? Well around here they you know they taste your grandma's so you better be careful
Starting point is 00:04:56 What's the likelihood that it'll come out of this office? So that's our project for Friday we have to go get drunk with the police and oh, dude. I get someone has to get Taze. I hope to God. We can help the city of Austin. I'm so down with that. That sounds like fun. I mean, I really want to give back. It'll be the first Scientific experiment in history that actually has a margarita machine involved So last week we didn't have many topics to talk about but this week we got tons of topics like what? We've got the Kona Brian thing. There's that big commitment. We got the mark. You got tons of topics like what we've got the Conan Brian thing His big commitment. We got the mark. We got the mark McGuire thing fucking a that was disappointing. Yeah
Starting point is 00:05:32 Not surprising though. We got avatars still. You know what? I was surprised by that I was Yeah, I don't know why I thought Mark McGuire Mark McGuire went from looking like a human to being a walking muscle I knew he in the creatine and all that the wires defense. He was always a huge motherfucker. I don't know. I have his rookie card I have 87 tops of rookie card and the guy the guy looked like Bernie and Jack. I had that I had that rookie card He was not that muscular back then. He's his is rookie card is an 8 by 11 sheet They couldn't fit him on the small ones. They they photoshopped a face onto his biceps He comes from a big family too. You gotta remember his brother Dan McGuire, who played in the NFL, was 6'8", and he weighed
Starting point is 00:06:09 like 300 pounds. Actually, I don't have to remember that. Yeah, you do. He played for the Bingles, I think. He really had a brother in the NFL? Dan McGuire. Yeah, he played for about, he quarterbacked for about two years. I do not know that.
Starting point is 00:06:19 He was kind of like the beefy white version of Ben Schellen, where he was like 4 inches taller than anybody else in the field. Wow. Bangle's got knocked out of the playoffs. They did. It's got knocked out of the playoffs. I'm assuming I didn't actually see the final score. Now that the Patriots lost Westwalker
Starting point is 00:06:34 the week before to the Texans and that hurt him quite a bit. And the Bingles though, they weren't ready for that game, I guess. It was a home game and the Jets is crushed him. Yep. Which was sad, because I like the Bingles. I like watching Ochoa Sinko. That guy that guys he looks like he's having a fun time playing football
Starting point is 00:06:48 You know he's changing his name again is it the Jeff because when he has a bad game I guess people call him Ochoa stinko So once he changes into the Japanese equivalent of Ochoa sinko you're changing it to Hachi go alright or Hachi go I'll reset that that's great man That's fucking awesome. And just to be clear, Chad Johnson. Chad Johnson is a guy who plays for the Bengals. He's a receiver.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Number 85. 85. And so he wanted to put on his Jersey Ojo Sinko and the NFL wouldn't let him. So he legally changed his last name to Ojo Sinko. Which is a brilliant move because it's all anybody's talking about. But also I think it's, it's, it it's, I'm gonna go back to high school Spanish or Gus and you can help me out. Totally incorrect.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Why wouldn't it be like Ocho Sinko? Ocho Sinko. It's eight five. I guess eight five. Eight five. Eight five. But it's like Ocho Sinko is basically the James Franco of the football.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Like he's having a great time doing what he does and he knows he's being an idiot, but he's having a good time doing it. I like how you approve of him changing his name Jeff. You being the person the only person I know who's ever changed their name. He's like yes everyone should. Everyone should have a ridiculous name. I think so. Fuck it. Why not? It's too short to be serious. Chad Ocho Sinka will be changing his name to Chad Hachi Go. It translates to eight and five in Japanese.
Starting point is 00:08:03 He's just changing names every season. That's a lot of paperwork to change your name. It's not. It's really not. Oh, wait, I forgot. No, yeah, that's three years after the aftermath is pretty rough for me. So this guy trying to get a new driver's license. Change his name and then just change it again. I mean, that's that's got to be a huge backlog of paperwork. Like, there's probably some still some stuff that hasn't changed to Ocho Sinko. You could be, but in, in Ocho Sinko's defense, you could walk down to the courtroom right
Starting point is 00:08:30 now and in two hours walk out with a new name. Yeah, that's not the hard part. That's not the hard part. It's changing everything else. I sit next to Jeff in the office. And for the last three years after he changed his name to Jeffrey laser Ramsey, laser with a Z. Yes. I mean, you've been through hell because it just keeps crop it up. Didn't you lose insurance on your car for six months? No, I lost homeowners insurance for 13 months
Starting point is 00:08:53 because of a clerical. Oh my God. Isn't one of your company credit cards still say it doesn't, they will not let me change the name to Ramsey. Yeah. I offered to send the court documentation to them a copy of it and this, this, and no.
Starting point is 00:09:04 So they'd rather have a card floating out there with the wrong name Then to like accept documentation showing that I find if you just put your thumb over that part of the card nobody ever notices No one even asked for your ID, right? No, not really. Yeah, I think like according to credit card rules They don't you don't you don't have to have an ID to use a credit card I think I think he didn't sign the back of a card. They're supposed to ask for ID. No, it's not true.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Really? You're getting right on the back of the card. Please check ID. I one time. I don't remember the scenario. That's a weird name. I don't remember the scenario, but oh, I know the other day, Bernie and I went to Avatar. And he went to go park and he gave me his credit, gave me his wallet and asked me to pick up the tickets that will call.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And I gave the lady Bernie's driver's license and Bernie's credit card, and she looked at the driver's license and looked at me and looked at the driver's license and said, thank you Mr. Burns. But okay, was we like just alike? Yeah, you're all very similar. Now we've heard too, there was weird law that if you try to use a fake ID to get alcohol,
Starting point is 00:10:00 that then the onus was on you, that it absolved the bar or the building of any kind I don't think that's true. I'm willing to bet that's not true especially in Texas Yeah, so alcohol laws in Texas are ludicrous. Well, we're we're bad to stay when I first moved to Texas There was nothing open on Sunday at all Yeah, all the malls were closed on Sunday and I think the only thing open was grocery stores So that's the whole fucking Bible belt then. I grew up with that. And is it that way in other states as well where you can't buy alcohol on Sunday? No,
Starting point is 00:10:32 I think in California you can buy alcohol whenever you buy. You can buy alcohol 24 hours a day and you can buy it anywhere. I'm in California. The girls got sell alcohol in California. What? Not 24 hours a day. I don't think. Yeah, dude. I've walked into it. I walked into liquor stores with Jolene Kathleen at like four in the like a grocery store at like three in the morning on a Tuesday and bought like vodka. That's a sad story right there. I think you can buy up to four a.m. I think that's their break time. So they cut off this four a.m. to four thirty or like four oh four a.m. till the dawn until the sun comes up. I don't know exactly but I'm pretty sure you there is a time where you can no longer buy alcohol in California. I think in Louisiana they actually spike bottled water with vodka.
Starting point is 00:11:08 When I lived in New Jersey, the liquor store by my house closed at 7.30. At PM? Yeah, 7.30 PM. In New Jersey you can't buy beer at convenience stores, right? You can't buy beer at gas stations? Yeah, gas stations are different in Jersey because you don't pump your own gas, so nobody goes in gas stations. It's like a place where you just go have somebody pump your gas in your league Yeah, I wouldn't like you want to get beef jerky I went to Jersey once a couple years ago and I was trying to buy some beer at a gas station
Starting point is 00:11:30 I was like and I walked in I was like where's the beer and I'm like oh you got to go to the store across the street in in They still have full service gas stations. Yeah, you're not allowed. It's illegal to pump your own gas You get you could not fuck out trying to get out of your car and pump your gas in Jersey. Why it's a union thing I guess so probably probably probably illegal and then the gas station The cursome for the It's isn't wow I can't imagine it isn't there another state like that? There's a couple I think there's there's two states it's Jersey and one other one also in Oregon They can't sell at least for a Griffin group. They don't sell beer and wine and liquor in the same place
Starting point is 00:12:02 So like if you want to buy liquor you got to go to the liquor store and if you want to buy beer and wine You go to the beer and wine and liquor in the same place. So like if you want to buy liquor, you got to go to the liquor store. And if you want to buy beer and wine, you go to the beer and wine store. Remember when we went to Utah for Sundance and we had to buy liquor from the state? Yep. Oh yeah. I think Washington states also like that. I think all the liquor stores in Washington state are state-run. But the weird thing in Utah is you have to sign up for a membership to the bar
Starting point is 00:12:21 in order to drink there. You know I think that might be the same way in Alabama. They have the ABC, the Alabama beverage condition. And that's where you order to drink there. You know, I think that might be the same way in Alabama. They have the ABC, the Alabama Beverage Commission, and that's where you go to get liquor. I like to get the buy alcohol from these states, whereas Texas is getting you drunk for free. When I was in Alabama for Christmas, I tried to sneak out and buy a bottle of wine for Griffin,
Starting point is 00:12:39 and I after my parents went to bed, because being at home in 34 of my house is like being 12 again for some reason. And I went to the gas station and I couldn't find the line in the gas station and I went to the guy and I said, do you guys have any wine? I like all this he's beer and the guy goes, why would we have wine? And I was like, well I don't, and he's like, what's wrong with you? And I was like, I don't need, we got beer and I was like, I'll up to, could I get, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And I went across the place. And there was like, Miller, there Miller bud Bud light and natural light and that was it What a great selection. They didn't even have Heineken. They had Corona. That was like as exotic as a Well, you can walk down the street miss to buy your line We when I went to to Amsterdam, you know, I went with with Jason a couple years ago We were sitting at a at a bar and there was a cute bartender who was working there. I think his name was Raul. Surge.
Starting point is 00:13:27 No, she was real cute and I think like Jason was trying to like, like, chatter up and talk to her. And then after a while, he's like, you know, we need another round of drinks and she asks what we wanted. Jason was like, what's your favorite beer? She's like, they're all good. And he's like, no, no, if you can only have one beer the rest of your life, you know, what is it?
Starting point is 00:13:42 She goes, it's expensive, but it's this. And she pulled out a corona. And Jason's like, I'll take that. And it was like, it was like a $10 corona dude. I used to go, when I lived in Jersey, I used to go to the steak restaurant because they served lo and star. Lo and star because it was imported was $5 bottle. Oh, in the Jersey. And eating down. That's more than a six pack, right? Yeah. I would say more than it. For lo and for most of us more than a case. That's true So hey last week was the UT championship game, right? I was gonna curious how low on the alcohol talk was gonna laugh I'm just gonna sit here to watch you guys like wax nostalgic about
Starting point is 00:14:20 I almost brought up the the old lady that got us drunk in She in bread and death of the ones. God that was that lady is the devil. Wait wait what is this? What is this? We've talked about her before the old ass lady who owned a bar in Breda and her and her daughter in it and she was she was from the Netherlands but her daughter had an Irish accent for some reason. It was really weird and we sat down there we were waiting to eat at a
Starting point is 00:14:44 Mexican at the worst Mexican restaurant on the planet. And they put ketchup on corn torches. They were all the best. They were different for chickpeas in my burrito. It was really bizarre. But, and so we didn't know what to order. She was kind of friendly, so she was like, you don't order anything.
Starting point is 00:14:59 I'll just bring stuff to you. And then she would come and she'd be like, and everything at a different glass, like a special glass every beer. And she'd be like and everything at a different class like a special glass every beer and she would be like this one's the headache we'd be like this one's the double headache I felt so fucking bad the next day it was pretty bad I wanted to run that lady down I want to I want to go to remember her saying number 10 yeah there was like a number 10 the number 13 yes by the end of it we're like drinking out of these
Starting point is 00:15:21 ceramic goblets there's something I don't know what they were I want to clarify Jeff It was this place worse or better this is Mexican food was it worse or better than Taco Bill in Melbourne, Australia Taco Bill Taco Bill. I think is the worst Mexican food ever was worse. Really, dude It was like the ingredients were just bizarre. It was I can't even explain to you It was like nothing you've ever had before. So weird. So gross. I would say that Mexican food of all the cuisines is the most inconsistent based on where you're eating it. Sure. I'll go. I can see if I have
Starting point is 00:15:55 only like three ingredients in Mexican food. So if you mess up any of any one of those ingredients, you're going to ruin it. That's not true. I mean, if you ask anyone from different parts or one of the three ingredients in Mexican food? You've got some egg from California. They would say fish. Fish avocado and rice probably. And in Texas we would say... Beef, cheese and more cheese. Of all opinions. And all opinions. You know, melted cheese and cheese sauce. We've had some pretty pizzas like that too though. I remember the first meal you and I had in Edinburgh. We went to a pizza place and that was like,
Starting point is 00:16:27 the pizza combinations they had were just bizarre. It was like, there was like, cuttlefish pizza and just like, really weird, gross. I just went pepperoni and they were like, I don't, what? I think the closest we got was salami. Yeah, that was, you're right, they had a salami pizza that was as close as you get to pepperoni.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Not the same thing. You know, I never, I never know about the same thing as a kid Salami always grossed me out because and how are the duck how are the duck cuts off the tentacles from that monster And he says it's sliced salami. Yeah, so I was a little kid in my head slice salami was always like gross alien tentacles Wow as a kid I like salami, but occasionally you get this horrible like black pepper nugget in a piece of salami I'm like Oscar-Mire stuff and it was the worst experience in my life whenever I got that It was like those nuggets. It's like peppercorn or something right? I know what it is, but man that would be like it and punched in the face by a pepper mill or something So should we talk the UT Alabama game now? I can tell the booze. No, he doesn't. I can go.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I can I can I've got a story about booze we can talk and we're gonna do that. Let's talk about the football game. So this is police work. So we had the game with the Alamo draft house last Thursday. It turned out to be a really good game. It basically it turned out about as good as it could for you Jeff, right? Because the Texas fans I didn't get punched out or anything. The Texas fans were disappointed but but at the same time,
Starting point is 00:17:47 we lost our starting quarterback on the fifth offensive play of the game for us. Dude, when Colt McCoy went down, I got really nervous about 45 seconds. You should have been. No, you should have more nervous than that. You should have been nervous for the first half. It was, that was scary.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Well, if you would have told me, if you would have come up to me and said, okay, you're starting quarterback Colt McCoy who is the highest-man nominated, you know quarterback is gonna go down on your first drive I'd be like oh we're gonna lose by 90 points and no you guys did pretty well. We did really good actually A lot of that is I think is that we gave Mark Ingram the entire third quarter off I know I was more afraid of that other running back the Mark Ingram that that fresh Richardson. Yeah true freshman Wow, yeah, that kid was awesome. They had almost almost identical numbers they both had about a I think ingram had 114 yards and he uh... russian at 112 and they both had two touchdowns yeah well how many yards are what was
Starting point is 00:18:35 the biggest play that ingram broke like maybe like twenty twenty thirty yards he didn't have any huge plays like that that one that originally can have like the forty five yard touchdown yeah anger had a score from two yards out that he would have scored from 98 yards out. I mean, it was a hole that was just ridiculous. We would have had the same defense, and it was a... How, however, that...
Starting point is 00:18:53 Well, they put in that truck in front of them to go through the line. They're gonna take care of it. I don't know what that guy was. I mean, he was like, I think they shaved a rhino or something. I was putting him in an Alabama. That guy was enormous.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I was just saying they did some recruiting in Antarctica and picked up a walrus. I'm telling you, he looked like a walrus. Yeah, that guy was massive. We had that other guy in the defense. It was number 54. The guy that picked up the fumble and... What was your backup quarterback?
Starting point is 00:19:18 Gary Gilbert. Gilbert. Yeah, I won this. The guy that Gilbert tried to tackle. That was a very, very funny. Well, quarterbacks don't do a lot of tackling in practice so I want to hold out against them He he through Gilbert in the stands Well, no Gilbert just sort of like fell off
Starting point is 00:19:34 But anyway, here's what I don't get I don't get why people keep complaining that Texas would have done much better if they had Colt McCoy, right? Sure We had Colt McCoy. It's not like Colt McCoy was not in that game He was in that game and he was knocked out. That's part of football That's what happens. You can't say the Texas didn't have Colt McCoy They did have Colt McCoy like if Colt was on probation or something or got a DUI then that before and can play that would be a little different Yeah, or whatever, but yeah injuries are a part of football. Yeah, you know what else is part of football? Having a back-of-quarter back
Starting point is 00:20:04 Depth charts. Well, yeah, that's what I was saying the you know He's a part of football. Yeah. You know what else is a part of football? Having a back-up quarterback. Yeah. Depth charts. Well, yeah. That's what I was saying. The person probably got hurt most out of cult going down was Colt's brother who's coming in as a quarterback. Because Garrett Gilbert looked pretty damn good for a 19-year-old true freshman playing his first real minutes in the national championship game.
Starting point is 00:20:21 He looked pretty solid in his- He was kind of nervous at first. I mean, he had a few missteps, but he got it together. They didn't really let him play until about I would I would say really the second half like the whole the end of the first quarter and then the most of the second quarter is all handoffs and he looked nervous, but then when they finally like when he cooled off and was actually throwing passes, he looked pretty solid. The fact that he didn't die just like instantly die after that second and the fourth quarter. Yeah. I mean that was what he had two interceptions and then one fumble, but the two interceptions about deflected like the one was the the
Starting point is 00:20:51 shuttle past the end of the first half, which was kind of crap. I a more I don't know if I blame Greg Davis for that or if I blame the running back for not catching that ball. He kind of like like take the ball, just take it. Greg Davis is the offense of coordinator for Texas by the way. We've had our ups and downs. There was a didn't and didn't after one attempted Pascal Gilbert like walked off the field like kind of nursing his shoulder. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Yeah, oh my god. Who's there who's their backup backup? No, that was great because he walked off the field nursing his shoulder and was like well, it's down, garrist out and then literally the next cut was a shot of Vincion on the side. He was like, oh, he's got a year of eligibility left. Yeah, he's got one year left to put him in a suit. I'll say this, every single person in that theater was extremely awesome in a great mood and was really gracious with the exception of Dan Godwin. Really?
Starting point is 00:21:38 How's that? He was just bitter and angry and kept sending me pissed off texts the whole time. What about Joel? Joel was just drunk and obnoxious. Yeah, he was being pretty fun. He was just drunk. No, he wasn't being funny. He wasn't being funny.
Starting point is 00:21:50 He was being drunk and obnoxious. The weird thing about Joel, he was drunk. That dude goes from zero to hammered in one drink. He was drunk before the game started. Pretty much. Like, he was heckling commercials. That's so weird. He's like a groundhog. I think he saw a shadow and started heckling it too. But it was
Starting point is 00:22:10 really I would want to watch every every sports game for the rest of my life in a movie. Oh that was great. So okay something in a UTOU game next season definitely. Well I mean I will I should say depending on how well the teams look. No I wouldn't think we'd be able to rent out the Alamo for Texas OU Because Saturday because it'll be a Saturday game Hmm. Well if it if well the Texas OU games usually an earlier game though, and so that's off hours So I wouldn't be shocked. It's a weekend though
Starting point is 00:22:37 You know if we're willing to pay for it. I'm willing to bet they'd let it let it go I don't know they might be contractually obligated for movies that they have in the theater there Hey, I gotta go I gotta go trip on a conference call I'll right back. All right. See you. You want to do it while you're on the podcast? So while we're on the discussion of college football we should talk some coaching changes going on So what do you what do you think about Pete Carol even USC? Well, I mean, Pete Carol's a great coach, you know if he could keep his players straight I'm gonna go get on the comments call Gus
Starting point is 00:23:07 Well me and Bernie will talk about football. Yeah, that's fun. Okay, so who's this coach though that they picked up I'm not familiar with him, but everybody seems to think he's just a jackass. So Wayne Kiffin He was he actually coach or he was a offensive coordinator or defensive coordinator at USC while care was there Then he left to go to the Raiders actually. I don't know if I don't know what he did there. I don't know if he was head coach or what, but he was with the Raiders and then left the Raiders after having a horrible season there. With the Tennessee coach last year at Tennessee brought them to, I want to say, seven and six maybe or. They're seeing game season. Is that wrong? Probably. Maybe eight and six or eight and
Starting point is 00:23:42 so I don't know what fired mid season. It was just over just over 500 is what his final record was. What's his student name? Layton Kiffin. Okay. And now USC has picked him up. So now Tennessee is an alert because they've got what three weeks till signing day and they don't have a head coach. So thank you Tennessee or whatever. Current head coach, the University of Southern California Trojans. He was previously the head of the Tennessee volunteers, football team, the Oakland Raiders of the NFL and the offensive coordinator for the Trojans. So that's a good right. He said, 1993 graduate of Bloomington Jefferson High School in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:24:17 He graduated in 1993. He was born in 1975. He's 34 year old coach. He's the exact same age as me. He's annual salaries two million dollars. Fuck him. Yeah, what the hell? Max making five million a year now? Yeah, the max not 34. That wasn't acting graduate the same year I did. I would think damn it.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Pete Carroll would make it. I mean, he's coaching USC high expectations, but so I get the feeling that USC is headed very quickly in a Notre Dame territory where they're going to be adjusting their coaches over and over again for the next couple of years to find somebody who's Pete Carroll. But Kiffin is bringing back quite a few of the old USC offensive guys and defensive guys. He's bringing back a lot of sort of, he's bringing the band back together basically.
Starting point is 00:24:56 And they're saying he could do pretty well with that. You know what else they call that? What's that? They also call that trying to catch lightning in the bottle again. That's usually the way that works. Hey look who's back, it's Gus. Hey, it's Gus everybody So I got delayed five minutes. Oh, okay. Oh see. So now they're saying Tennessee is looking for a coach and actually with the one like the number one name on their list is Will Mustchamp the Texas defensive coordinator
Starting point is 00:25:17 Who is the coach in waiting when Mac Brown steps down? No, who's looking for this Tennessee the volunteers? Oh shit Well, if you go from the TV you TV. Yeah, who's looking for this? Tennessee, the volunteers. Oh shit. Well, if we go from the TT, you team. Yeah, that's also you team. Maybe it's contracted in right out university at Texas. They just wrote you team. He's like, look at that. Nice. But that wouldn't shine it.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Like, you know, like everyone's like, oh, well, you know, he's the coach in waiting, but Mac Brown's not going to leave for another. I mean, Mac Brown's, he's got enough goodwill at you team to last for another decade. I think. Okay, so he was seven and six, but he was in Tennessee. When you said he moved from Oakland to Tennessee, I thought you meant the Titans. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Oakland if you like what's the type if you're gonna make make me listen to this fucking football coaching conversation you should at least be able to keep up with it all right yeah I would say coaching change is probably the most boring part of football in general although some that's cool about
Starting point is 00:26:12 uh university coaches is the bigger schools for football tend to be state schools like University of Southern California University of Texas so their contracts are public domain because their state entities. Right. And so like you can pull up the University of Texas coach is Mac Brown. You can pull up his contract and see all of his paydays, all that stuff. None of its private information. Yeah, when you got a pay raise this season, you know, it's printed on the front page of the local newspaper. Yeah, and you can pull it up. I mean, like you get to get the PDF and you can look at the contract. And there was a weird thing where he got $380,000 on his birthday. Specifically, it was a- That's a hell of a birthday.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Yeah, weird clause. I mean, I guess they had to specify a date, so that was it. Well, they had a bit too, it was whoever won the National Championship. I think if Mac Brown were to, or the long-horns would have won the National Championship, Mac Brown would have gotten like a $500,000 bonus and I think Nick Sabin got like a $450,000 bonus. I think it was. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds right. Pretty ridiculous, just for winning one game.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You know that upset me during the game was when Komoko went out, they announced her's kept saying they were keeping him out of the game to save his pro career. And that wasn't, I mean, he couldn't throw. Yeah. I thought that was a weird thing to stick on the kid. You know, when you sit there on the sideline
Starting point is 00:27:20 that's showing him on TV and the announcers are saying this stuff. Man, that article that you forwarded to me about him in the locker room with his dad was fucking heartbreaking. I don't know. Did you send that to me, Jack? No, no, no. That rival's blog?
Starting point is 00:27:31 So, the brand is that to you? Somebody sent me a blog on rivals that described the situation of Colt McCoy in the locker room trying to get back on the field, essentially lying to the coaches. God, that's gotta be so fucking frustrating. Yeah. We talked about how like, he'd throw in the football with his dad a million times in his life. And this is the most important time that ever thrown the football together. And he couldn't get the ball to him.
Starting point is 00:27:52 And it's like six people watching him throw the ball six feet. You know, couldn't throw the couldn't throw the ball to his dad seven feet away. Uh, and it would like bounce at his feet and cold be like, give me the ball back. Give me the ball back. And then they give the ball and he throw it his dad's feet. His dad would go get the ball. He'll give it to me and they like kept doing and he throw it his dad's feet his dad would get the ball and give it to me and they like kept doing it and they were like cold it's over you know it's done you can't throw the ball.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So terrible. Terrible. Pinch curve that's what it was. Oh so he's okay or they're saying he's gonna be okay for the combine but did you see what Colt McCoy did with his girlfriend? That sounded weird. So Colt McCoy proposed to his girlfriend really really hot chick from the stands You've seen in all the shots of his parents
Starting point is 00:28:28 He proposed to her on the 50 yard line at D.K. R. Memorial Stadium here in Austin at night and the jumbo tron lit up or the god Zillatron lit up when saying her name will you please marry me Colt? It's pretty awesome. There's a photo of the two of them like hugging and what do you like gay? Let's do that. That's awesome It's so romantic. That's the photo of the two of them like hugging and what do you like gay? Let's do that That's awesome It's so romantic. That's the third largest HD screen in the world and Your name was on it and that that meant so much to her. She's like I always wanted to get married in HD Yeah, if he really loved it, why didn't he get the largest it's just fucking three hours north of us He's got some pull go the sound the largest now. I thought I feel I thought I'm still in Japan
Starting point is 00:29:04 I would just be like don't. It's been in the field. I thought I was still in Japan. I would just be like, don't you have enough football in your life? I mean, really, you gotta go out of your way at night to do this stuff and not even go to football field. This is what I'm marrying. The rest of my life is gonna be fucking football. I can't even get proposed to without football. If I were her, I would have said no. I gotta listen.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I got one word for you. He's a restaurant. You know? That's not everything. Put a ring in the fucking dessert dessert in a football shaped souffle It's like hey babe run a post pattern throws of the ring He's like no that's an out you dumb bitch
Starting point is 00:29:38 Has me like if Jack proposed to his future wife over Xbox And the next room is't even put on this headset. I have something I want to ask you. It's an astral gaming headset, it's the nicest headset. It's the third nicest headset available. I've missed this, I've missed this. You know the last couple times you've been on Jack, we've got a little easy on you. You have actually.
Starting point is 00:30:01 You guys done? Y'all done? No, I got all that. I feel like you'll be here. I didn't get started on the achievement in lock jokes. I was just working to pink Xbox controller somehow So did you see Jeff that over public on push to spring 2011? Was it really pushed? I mean they never announced the date. It was expected to Speculated that it would launch this year, right? But you know what I would say speculation might have been Yeah, but you know what I would say speculation might have been
Starting point is 00:30:29 There because they put out a fucking trailer for the game. I mean call me crazy now Once you start seeing game footage or a trailer and marketing for the game You kind of expect to see that within the next 12 months. Yeah, I mean that'll be E3 It'll be two years since they put out the trailer before they put the game out Mm-hmm, and they didn't announce that I'm sure long before that but imamose are a completely different beast though Cuz those things take forever to get ready. I don't care take as long as you need just make it awesome Yeah, I can wait a year. Yeah, at this point. It's not like you know, we're looking for content Yeah, it's not like it's not like this is gonna be a dry year for games. Yeah, god damn I just wonder why they announced stuff like that too is it more that that stuff's always been out there
Starting point is 00:31:03 They're just more less people to report on it? Like why do I know that Marvel has movies scheduled through 2013? Why do I think it's the internet, just all that information so much more readily available now. I guess. Hey, can somebody explain to me the relationship between Sony and Marvel and how, why Marvel doesn't own the rights to Spider-Man movies? I think Sony purchased the rights for the Marvel of the Spider-Man movies. But they can lose it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:28 They was talking about them losing it with this fourth movie. It is a contractual license, too, but I'm sure. It's like an expires over a certain amount of time or if you don't produce something in a certain amount of time, it reverts back to the original owner. That doesn't mean that I don't know for sure,
Starting point is 00:31:42 but that would be my guess. I'm sure they don't have a perpetual license to it. They signed, you know, they probably optioned the property. Sure. And then it was out there for a while and then they used it and they're just in their license agreement, the way for it expired and we'll revert back to Marvel at that point. So what we're talking about is Sam Raimi and everyone
Starting point is 00:31:57 who is in the first three Spider-Man's are now off of Spider-Man 4. Like they're not making Spider-Man 4. Oh man, I was really looking forward to another dance sequence. What feelings would they have had? Supposedly John Malkovich was lining up for a culture, yeah. Howard Stern will make a great culture. He would. Is Howard Stern a good actor though?
Starting point is 00:32:17 Probably can though fucking culture, it's Spider-Man. What did he have to be? John Malkovich? That's a good choice. John Malkovich is a good choice for the Walter. He's a creepy dude You're not old enough though. Not that like he's not that doesn't have that look yet I don't know. I think I think I gotta make up and stuff nowadays. I hear the even use computers sometimes I don't know man. You run out of Hill and you go long enough
Starting point is 00:32:37 I just saw a weird thing where you remember Superman for the quest for peace. Yep. No wait, is that right? What's the one where they made the radiation man? Yeah, that was four. That was four, right? They take the nuclear weapons to the sun or whatever. Yeah, three was what your prior four was radiation man. Did you know that in that movie, I don't know if it was to replace radiation man or if it was their first attempt
Starting point is 00:32:58 to make radiation man wherever he's called in that movie, they had Bizarro. And they had a live action Bizarro. And they shot with it. And there's a movie they had Bizarro and they have it they had a live-action Bizarro and they shot with it and there's a battle sequence between Bizarro and Christopher Reeves Superman. I have no memory of that. It wasn't in there. It was cut. Oh okay. And then they were played and they're replaced in with that radiation man character or they just had him earlier than moving cut all those scenes out. I was gonna say millie just watched Superman for not long ago. Yeah no no it was it was lost to time and suddenly we discovered and it was terrible
Starting point is 00:33:26 I bet it's like thorium. I mean, I don't know who was you know, it was lost to time I don't know if it was it was terrible in the relative world of Superman 4, but just in general it was fucking horrendous What? Close the link to that. So now Sam Raimi instead of doing Spider-Man 4 is working on the World of Warcraft movie You hear about that, Gus? Yeah, they got announced that Blizzcon last year. Also, for Sam Raimi and Tollman Guarantelezi, I was going to fire them, it seemed to get fuck. No, I'm sure they got paid plenty to make Spider-Man 3 that they're not concerned about
Starting point is 00:33:55 4. Yeah. Because they were contracted for 1 and 2, right? And then they all got a huge paid A for 4. Dude, that's the lamest thing I've ever seen in my life. I just showed Jeff a big headless arrow. I think Edward's. It's like a beefy Edward C good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, skin, it's just like a thicker jaw, retarded version of Superman. Huh. Well, it's just like, we talk about this a lot with comics,
Starting point is 00:34:31 and it doesn't matter how far, how long it takes, eventually this happens in every comic book franchise, you have your superhero, right? And then eventually, they make the Arch Villain who is essentially just the superhero, but a bad version of it. Yeah, sure. You know, you have Venom for Spider-Man and then Carnage on top of that too.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Yeah, wasn't enough. Right. And then like, what, like War Machine is gonna be in the next Iron Man. Yeah. And the weird thing is, is that- Spoiler. Is this a fucking trailer or how? That he turns bad.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Oh, he turns bad. I mean, I think he turned bad the comic, maybe. Sorry, sorry, you didn't read the comic 20 years ago. Not exactly because- I think that's, yeah, out of the spoiler. i think he turned back the comic made sorry sorry you didn't read the comic twenty years ago i think i think that's you out of the spoiler but like green lantern has the yellow dude whatever's name is i mean it's like why doesn't the yellow green lantern fight batman why do you have to fight green lantern right now they just they do that every single comic like even captain america had that us agent or the fact that was us agent yeah Yeah square shield. Yeah, any more black. He was the the black
Starting point is 00:35:27 Uniform diversion of Captain America. It's really weak. It's pretty limp. It's always been weak You know Wolverine has saver tooth. It's just it's it's so old. I don't know why people But comic books are so lame Well, it's such an easy way to be like oh, you know these characters They're on a thin line between good and evil. It's like, this is what you could have been. And it's an easy way to mirror their, like, the good guy as a bad guy. It's a cop out of what it is. Yeah, yeah, basically. It's a trope.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Is that the correct term? It's, it's your comic book is 700 issues deep and you've got nothing left to write about. Pretty much. I'm guessing Daredevil probably started as a Batman villain at some point. Kevin Smith's writing a Batman book right now, right? Are he's writing a Batman series? Oh, no., maybe. He started doing that bullseye series. I don't know. The villain from Daredevil and then never finished it. Or I don't think he ever finished it. He could have. He really, he really liked to. They put out a trailer for a new Kevin Smith movie called
Starting point is 00:36:19 Cop Out. Yeah. I heard it was pretty bad. Yeah. It looks like a trailer you would see in another movie. You know, that's that's yeah. That's like an as a great description. It's like an SNL digital short of like this is what something stupid would be. Be it of trailers. There was a trailer that could hit over the weekend. It was awesome. Yeah. Awesome. What was it? A team trailer. Oh man. Dude, that is horrible. But that last 10 seconds. That is funniest thing ever i felt stupid watching us like us terrible isn't it gonna be good and then like the last ten seconds are like okay that was awesome yeah what's the funniest thing ever very now i'm gonna see the movie well i will have to uh... to leave hope that can find i think
Starting point is 00:36:57 it's out with the other they put it in the actual it's on the i would think so speaking of people who have been fired from major franchises What's up with this Conan O'Brien thing? So Wait, we just run through the whole thing people didn't know what people know. It's on the front page of CNN every day Which do you find that interesting that it's on the front page of CNN? There's what 300 million people in America, right? Yeah Five million people at most watch these shows. I think they get an audience of like two or three million people yet
Starting point is 00:37:25 Whoever's at the helm of this thing and all this is is front page news that we're all supposed to be interested in I mean really 99% of America does not watch these shows and has no and has no interest in them Yeah, it's a really and suddenly, you know the fact that Conan O'Brien's not gonna be get to be the You know the host of the tonight shows a big deal to everybody people like a scandal though I guess so. I bet 99% of America didn't watch the personal and sex tape. Well, it's definitely, it's creating this big divider. Like it's making a clear divide between the people who like Leno and the people who like Conan.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And it seems like the, like the, so who likes Leno? Are there people that are that adamant about it though? Are there like people that like I honestly, aside from Howard Stern, are there people out there that are like, I hate Leno so much. Well, it's more like it that adamant though. Are there like people that like I honestly, aside from Howard Stern, are there people out there that are like, I hate you? No, so much. It's more like it doesn't watch it. It's always more like the Leno,
Starting point is 00:38:09 like he represents sort of that old way of doing things and like sort of an older generation of people that think, you know, his horrible jokes are actually funny. It's just safe comedy. Yeah, it's super safe comedy. And then Conan's little edger, he's a little more in depth with, you know, what's going on and he's, you know, younger.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And so it's basically like this old ideology versus the new ideology. And it's, and NBC isn't giving Conan the opportunity to sort of find his ground on, on his, and it's time for, I heard he had a pretty funny joke in his monologue that I heard on Stern this morning. He said, Conan said that, you know, he's, he's all broken up about this whole thing and he doesn't know if he's going have to leave or what not and he said It's really weird because I remember being a little kid and watching Johnny Carson and saying to myself someday I want to host the tonight show for seven months
Starting point is 00:38:53 No, I watched the whole the show last night was was amazing man They they just they were mercilessly ripping into NBC in the whole situation You'd let him and been getting in on it too, which is really weird. Did you see what Jimmy Kimmel did last night? No, I heard it was funny though. Oh my so Jimmy Kimmel dressed up like Jay Leno with a big old fake gin in the whole situation. You knew Letterman's been getting in on it too, which is really weird. Did you see what Jimmy Kimmel did last night? No, I heard it was funny though. Oh my, so Jimmy Kimmel dressed up like Jay Leno with a big ol' fake gin in the wig, the grey wig, and the hairdo did his whole show as Jay Leno. The entire show? The entire show with guests, music guests, everything.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Did you do the voice and everything? Yeah, he had a weird, lispy kind of voice though, but I mean, he did, yeah, he was playing a character the whole time, and it was was great and Chevy Chase walked out with the Conan O'Brien hairdo yeah like a well-wagon with a giant little swoop at the top interesting huh it was funny it was really funny that sounds funny but yeah I'll let you make it funny dude boy I hate to be lamppooned by Chevy Chase how stingy relevant although he is on a network show now yeah he is on community he looks older than my grandfather that's why you shouldn't How stingingly relevant. Although he is on a network show now. Yeah, he is.
Starting point is 00:39:45 He is on community. He looks older than my grandfather. That's why you shouldn't disappear from the limelight for a while. And then you would research like 20 years. I think the last thing I saw him and was probably like Christmas vacation. Mitha Robertson's was the last thing I saw him in. Mitha Robinson's work is a vacation. He looked like a 40 year old dude in the 70s when he was on Saturday Live.
Starting point is 00:40:01 That's true. You know, but I just I don't know why everyone's in such an uproar over it. I mean, it goes back to the old thing. If you like Conan so much, watch the goddamn show. Yeah. And there wouldn't be any controversy. If all Conan fans watched it, there wouldn't be a problem. And now you get to go on Twitter and the internet, which is becoming the champion of failures
Starting point is 00:40:20 basically. I don't understand that. Let's all change our Twitter icons, our icons orange and show support for Conan O'Brien I mean the internet seems to have a philosophy now of we're not just gonna root for underdogs We're gonna root for failures. Yeah, we're gonna wait till something failures And then we're gonna be like this is important to us. It's like no it wasn't important to you last week Shack the fuck actually internet success So Chuck came back on the air after like they they basically renewed or they brought it back for a third season
Starting point is 00:40:45 And it was only like a half season and the internet was so adamant about wanting them back that they've now renewed them for a whole full season And the ratings further their premiere were better than anything from last season. Who is this guy named internet? He sounds powerful. Yeah But actually Zach really by was on Conan last night Zach really by his Chuck on the TV show Chuck and he talks about Xbox live and video games last night. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I actually saw that interview also. I thought his story about playing on Xbox Live for the first time playing Ghost Recon. And he like taken under the old grizzled veterans wing was kind of funny. Yeah, was the old grizzled veteran like 12. I mean, I think he commented that when Xbox Live started, you know, it was so few people and it was like, it was the age skewed a little older. So like when you first started playing, it was like, you know, all like
Starting point is 00:41:27 gruff sounding army sergeants were like, I'll come with me, I'll help you. We'll get through this together. And now it's like 12 year old screaming at him, calling, you know, saying he sucks and teabagging him. Then he explained what teabagging was between Conan O'Brien and Tom Broke all was sitting next to him on public TV. It was pretty great. You know, that Xbox Live thing too about the young kids on there. You run into it in Halo. No, no, no, no, you run into it whatever the most popular game of the time is. And Modern Warfare 2 has taken all of that away from Halo 3. I was on Halo 3 recently playing
Starting point is 00:42:00 and it's all guys that are either in college or out of college and they're out there and it's a lot more fun. You know one thing that was pretty cool? I saw a major Nelson posted the top 20 most played games of the year. Halo 3 is at the top still. Two, three and four were all modern warfare or call duty games, but Halo maintained the top spot. Well you know I mean Halo 3 also did get 10 months that bottom warfare 2 did not. It's true. You know but Halo 3 was also what a two-year-old game in What did Halo 3 come out 2007 September 07 man? That is crazy That is crazy. There's a long time ago. There's a most played game a two-year-old game. Yeah awesome
Starting point is 00:42:38 Where was ODST in the list? Yeah, I think with number eight Number eight. I think so. Yeah, you were talking to somebody about demos who were on that list too, right? Yeah, one thing I thought was weird was left for dead too was not on the list, but the left for dead too demo was. Huh, so. There was another demo that made the list, but I don't remember what it was.
Starting point is 00:42:54 What do you think that is? Do you think that's a sign of the economy? I guess so, right? Yeah. I mean, I don't want to sign the people don't like the game. I don't want to ask a leading question there. Do you think maybe it was end of the year or, or well, I'm sure a lot of like the game. I don't know. I don't want to ask a leading question there. Do you think maybe it was
Starting point is 00:43:08 End of the year or well, I'm sure a lot of it has to do with end of the year But then again modern warfare two came out at the same time I was offered it was a session's Creed 2 on the list. Assesses Creed 2. I don't remember. Oh, it doesn't have online though It doesn't matter. Same play against you get on there. Okay. I guess last dot the other day and yes I do read slash dot posted a very cool article that made me happy and it was about the death of Endings in video games or how there are less and less endings now in video games where That's the way games started there was no ending Yeah, you know you played asteroids until you got the high score and you just got harder and harder and harder And you were essentially trying to beat yourself and they they said that now, somebody did an analysis.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I think it might have been that Guardian in the UK. And they were saying that now that games have DLC, the people who develop games don't want to put in endings because they don't want to have a finite chop-off point for the game. Sure. And there's sequels and everything else. Well, that's it.
Starting point is 00:44:02 And if you do, you've got to come up with creative solutions like follow up. And that's like Assassin's Creed. Like Assassin's Creed, you play DNA strands in the game. And in the original game that you buy in the store, there are two strands missing. Like you jumped from like chapter 11, the chapter 14. I don't like that. And it's like, obviously that, and then now I've come out to know that'll be the DLC packs.
Starting point is 00:44:22 And it's like, that's, that's all for DLC. So that's like, yeah, that's weird. Of course, now I packs and it's like that's that's I'm all for DLC that's like yeah that's weird of course now I'm gonna have to play it too because yeah yeah yeah go for a article in the Guardian asks whether the focus of modern games has shifted away from having a clear cut ending and towards indefinite entertainment instead with the rise of achievements frequent content updates and open-ended, it seems like publishers and developers are doing everything they can to help this trend. And it just goes into detail from the actual article here.
Starting point is 00:44:52 So I think it's cool, you know? Absolutely. You and I were talking about the other day, you know, ODST gets a little bit of flack for being a shorter campaign. I like that. Yeah. I determined the length of a campaign for a game should be about five or six hours. I think it's five I think six even six those little on me like Jack and I just beat through we blew through army of two 40th day
Starting point is 00:45:10 I think we put about five hours into it. Yeah, five or six and that was even a little slow because we were you know Doing videos and doing collections and stuff and it felt perfect though It felt I beat it we beat it in two sessions essentially and it was great and the nice thing about it too is like You take a game like even Modern Warfare 2, which is a fun game, and I'm going back through and I'm playing it on the veteran right now. There's like 20 fucking levels in that game. And I didn't, like I played it in November, and then I'm going back right now and playing it again.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I don't even remember half of them, but instead of having like 15 levels in an 8 hour game or a 10 hour game, why not just have six really good levels that are fun to play over and over again? Like, I think like Leifer did too. Like, Leifer did too, exactly. Or like, Army of 240th day, which I would be totally happy to go through and play with you Jack levels 1 through 7 again because they were so much fun and they were so well-designed, you know. And I don't feel like I got enough out of those levels playing in one time. No, so how do you feel about something like Grand Theft Auto 4?
Starting point is 00:46:02 That. Totally different in them. Okay, but it's no level. Yeah, there's no level. It's the sandbox. But I mean, there are levels you play. I mean, there's story missions you play. I mean, so I mean, it's not really level based, but it's the same idea. Like, I can tell you right now, like two or three of my favorite level or missions from Grand Theft Auto 4.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I don't see how it's comparable. I mean, it's not a level based game and we're talking about games that have more levels versus less levels. I love sandbox games. Like, if the campaign, if you went through it, all the campaign missions on Grand Theft Auto, and that campaign from beginning to end was only about four or five hours, I think that that would be more than enough. And then you could spend a lot of time in the world doing either side missions or just doing whatever the hell you want. Yeah. Or playing multiplayer.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yeah, I like that idea. I like the way that some games are doing it and the saboteur was also another game that did that where you could do your main storyline missions, but the same time you could see other missions that were available and go do the side missions. So you could take, you know, the game itself might take, let's say, six hours, but if you wanted to, you could extend that experience to whatever length feels good for you. Case in point. Yeah, Gus and I were just talking about sabotour the other day because he's going back through him playing it. I feel like we played two entirely different games because he was talking about stuff. I don't know what he was talking about. I was talking about missions I played. He had never seen and it was cool.
Starting point is 00:47:13 And I feel like if I wanted to go back and play Sabotour, that I could play through the whole game again and get an entirely different experience just by doing the different side missions that he did. Okay, advice for us, sir. That's awesome. Yep, and that's good. But it's totally optional. That's sandbox versus regular traditional linear gameplay. Okay, I first sir. That's awesome. Yep, and that's what is totally optional. That's sandbox versus regular traditional linear gameplay. Okay, I think I'm a
Starting point is 00:47:29 fan of that. I don't think you notice too when a game is good and the ODS T campaign was great. I just went through and replayed Bioshock from beginning to end to get that that last achievement that they had it. Press balls. Yeah, press balls. After I complained about it in a previous podcast. You got it. Yeah, somebody came and said well Here's how you do it. It's not as hard as you think it is. They were right and the playthrough on bio shock Especially if you take out the big daddy battles, which are just basically the same thing over and over You don't have to do this right. I don't remember. It's been a long time since I know you could you could avoid them
Starting point is 00:47:58 If you want to but it would make it harder to finish I think because you get powered up from that kind of thing right But if you take those out That is probably a four-hour game. Yeah, maybe four or five hours. How long did it take you to go back and play through it again? Well, I was playing on the hardest level without being able to use you know White of Chambers, which is you know, I couldn't respond essentially. Yeah, I'd say probably took you about 11 hours altogether Mm-hmm, you know, just like that, but if you play through a normal and you know, just like the game was You know the way it's intended to be played. Sure.
Starting point is 00:48:27 And yeah, you can play through that game very quickly. There's like six levels in the game, and that's it. I mean, you can get in your little bathy spear or whatever it's called, and you can see all the levels in the game, and that one game of the year. And that didn't have multiplayer. And nobody, you know, nobody complained about that. So, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:43 People were pretty loud complaining about the multiplayer for that game When I thought it was a stupid argument. I'm saying they were complaining about the length of the game. Oh gotcha Yeah, and it as long as the game's cool to have some replay value to it I don't think people should measure games on how long they take to finish absolutely. I agree. I think Vertical vertic agree upon That's probably one of the big reasons I'll be chose Left for Dead 2 without realizing it for game of the year. Probably because it's just a replay game. Pick up, play, replay, done. Yeah, I think Jeff, you and I have played through certain parts of Army of 2, like probably five or six times.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Should we talk about how yesterday, how you totally screwed us over? I'm sorry about that. So, at the end of the game, there are basically three different threads you can take I'm not gonna say what three different endings. Uh-huh. Just call them a B and C Okay, so there's a B and C and so but to get to that point where you can see the endings You have to fight through this last battle that takes probably about I would say 15 20 minutes of some of the hardest guys in the game fighting Over and over again. It's a little dicey. Yeah, and uh, and. And so we had issues just getting to the end the first time and then we finally got there and it's like we realized oh hey there's other ways we
Starting point is 00:49:48 can end it we got to check out the other way see if there's anything cool. And so we played again you know probably played for another two hours to get to the second ending and then after that we took a break and then we came back. Tell us something. That's my comments scroll. Okay. Alright. Then after that, we ended up playing some more to get that third ending. And so it was basically, it was Jeff's turn to pick the ending. Well, before that, we had had some trouble. Like, we got almost to that ending and the power went out. Yeah. Oh, that's it.
Starting point is 00:50:18 And then the next time we died, we wiped. And then the next time, so the next time we make it's the end of the game, and it's Jeff's turn to select the ending and Jeff picks the wrong ending. I just hit like there's a green ending and a green button and a red button and video games You always press the green button. I just wasn't thinking about it. And so I hit the I hit the the wrong ending And immediately I was like what did you do? What why have you done that and and sure enough? We then it was then I got angry for you know 20 minutes or so and then we tried again and got the other ending so but I I caused us an extra 20 minutes probably I felt I felt sincerely that I was
Starting point is 00:50:52 sitting there like wait a minute this isn't right and yeah you know the guy don't like about that game army of two forty-thousand what's that after I we beat at that second time or that last time I wanted to go through there's a lot of cumulative achievements. Like get 6,666 kills, all that kind of stuff. I went to the start menu and I wanted to go and check my progress on some of those achievements and there's no way to do it. You have to go into the game to actually do it.
Starting point is 00:51:15 That kind of stuff. Which is kind of annoying. Was Army of two the first one very well received? I almost had Army of one. I don't know. Was it the first one I've all received? I don't know. I think the idea of the co-op gameplay aspect was a big deal. The game itself didn't do too hot. It got kind of ripped apart in ratings.
Starting point is 00:51:32 But yeah, it was a different gameplay mechanic as far as like it's all co-op. The whole game is co-op, no matter what. Is the you and an AI or are you in a partner? Kind of feels like gears or a little bit. Yeah. And the weapon customization stuff was kind of cool and What they do with the face mask now or you can actually design your own face mask That's actually really really neat somebody in the side had a funny idea They said that we should have done the Jeff mask. Oh, yeah, yeah, we should we should do that We should say hey, you know, we should do a contest or something How do you do that? Do you do with like an internal paint program? No, it's a website
Starting point is 00:52:01 You go to the army of two website and it's actually a mass creator you can use there and then you can import it from there into the game. They do that with their sport chains down to where you can put your face on tiger woods. Oh yeah, they're like they're for skate too for the skateboards and shirts and stuff like that. I said yesterday somebody made a captain american mask that was pretty funny. Yeah, yeah, that just opened up to lawsuit. Yeah, I guess. Well, there's usually a creative. There's an approval process. I know for factors approval process.
Starting point is 00:52:24 My buddy was the approval guy on the skate too. suit. Yeah, I guess. There's an approval process. I know for factors, approval process. My buddy was the approval guy on the skate too. Really? Yeah, he would sit there and be like, oh, no, the other penis, the lead, another curse word, the lead. Was it an approval process or was it a screening process? It was policing as it would go up and they take it down. So it's not a proof. Yes. It was a screening process. Okay, that's where it would go up and then he'd go through and be like, no, sorry, sorry. See, because if you have an approval process, that puts a lot of liability on you. That's true.
Starting point is 00:52:51 That also kills it. You want to put your mask on me too when you do your playthrough and then you have to wait two weeks. And it's undetermined amount of time before it gets approved. Nobody's going to do that. And always be worse at launch. Yeah. Oh, it's true, you know, which there's a game, an NBA game. I think it's 2K8. It's NBA Live A7. Oh, it's weird. You know, which there's there's a game an NBA game. I think it's
Starting point is 00:53:05 2 K 8. Okay, it's NBA live a 7. Okay, there you go. NBA live a 7. They have an upcoming thing where there's an achievement associated with being online as the same time as a thousand other people. Yeah. And the game is about to be shut down. The servers are the servers are. And so the, well, you won't be able to play multiplayer. So basically the same effect. Yeah. Yeah. This has been attempted a few times in the past. Well, it's been done a few times. It's been done and the last time they attempted it didn't work So if you're interested in getting that they're gonna try to do it January 31st The last day they can do it to get everyone on the line. I'm gonna do it I'm gonna do it. So yeah, I have the game and it's the only achievement I'm missing from that game
Starting point is 00:53:38 Well now they only need 999 other people actually you can sign in players 2 3 and 4 as guests and they count I think nice So every single person can count for four you're right organize something like that on your own. There you go So speaking of large numbers like that Jeff and I received the army of 240 day a little bit early So to work on some videos and stuff. We didn't release them until the game came out but in the like the versus mode if you go there and look There's a little box in the upper right corner This is how many people are playing world wide and the first day we got it we popped
Starting point is 00:54:07 it on looked at and said three players are playing world wide and two of them are Jeff and I. It was kind of interesting. It was kind of like oh that's pretty sweet. Yeah so even the day before it came out there like 30 or 40 but it was kind of cool to see like that one or two days where it was like just us. Did you guys get achievements and all that in it too? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Yeah. I hate that shit when I see other people play the game. That's not yet. Well, we've now turned that off for you kids. Hell, we're a part of it. Yeah, we've had to modify our game attacks. We had to do this for Bayonetta too, where we would get pre-release games we're doing achievement videos.
Starting point is 00:54:35 So sometimes we get debug versions in, and then that's a closed off system. It's part of part of that, nobody can see it. But when we get retail copies early, or green copies, that's like, I guess they're called green or gold, what are we doing? We have to change all of our Xbox live settings to private so no one can see what we're playing and what are students We're getting and just see what we jackasses. What's that? I just see it on jackasses. Yeah, yeah I get it. I say when when ods t leaked I remember seeing a bunch of my friends playing ods t and it was like
Starting point is 00:54:59 Damn it. You know when you say elite what do you mean elite? It got released or like I mean some a target So yeah, yeah, so many broke street day. Yeah broke a leech? It got released or like, I mean, some, some, some, some targets sold. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody broke street date. Yeah. Broke street. Okay. Not a leech. Or, yeah, I guess not leech.
Starting point is 00:55:11 But they put out more information about Halo Reach. Did you see that? No. What did they say? They put out more details. There was some, I think it's, I'm like, game informer. Game informer, right? Game informer has an article about it this month.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Yeah. And they had a specific details about Halo Reach and, you know, some things that put people up in arms who are very big into the canon of Halo. Oh really? Yeah. It doesn't follow the follow of Reach storyline was a big thing. It's not about Spartan 2's, it's about Spartan 3's. I thought Spartan 3's an inexist at that time or something. That's what a lot of people are saying that they didn't exist. Which kind of makes a question, is that does Bungie have to follow the extended universe storyline if that's accepted as canon? I mean, you know, I don't know. I mean, you can apply that logic to Lucas as well, right?
Starting point is 00:55:58 That does Lucas follow extended universe? I'm sure there's a lot of people who don't consider say follow, reach the novel to be extended universe, but it really is. Yeah. Until the game does it, right? That's the, that's the first part. Yeah. But, you know, but then does, does Halo Wars count as extended?
Starting point is 00:56:13 Does, you know, I think Halo Wars is part of the story. If I remember correctly, because even in Halo Wars, there was a timeline where you can see how it fits into the overall timeline of Halo. Well, I would argue that the overall timeline of Halo. Well, I would argue that the novel fall of reach fit into that timeline as well until somebody made a prequel game that now kind of violates the rules. That's true. But we don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:33 I mean, we'll have to see when it comes out. Yeah, nobody knows till the game, till they're playing the game, right? But they said that they revamped the, or they, they, they're not reusing the Halo 3 engine. It's all, I don't know if it's brand new or if it's just tweets or what, but... I read another comment from an internet post that said, it looks just like Halo 3, which I've heard about every single Halo game when it comes out that it looks just like the last one. If ever the case, Halo 3 would look just like Halo 1. Or Halo Reach would, the trailer looks just like Halo 1.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Everybody that thinks that, go to Google and compare some screenshots. You'll be wildly surprised yeah, you even watch even watch the first five seasons red versus blue versus reconstruction or God damn I remember people were making that complaint when when you and I were making the Multiplayer beta video we did yeah for Halo 3 and we had to cut back and forth It was the like the lobster like the free shrimp Party or whatever that's our chat. Yeah, and we were cutting between Halo 2 and Halo 3, and I was like, I was like, Halo 2 was a great looking game. I mean, we filmed in it for three years or whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:29 And we would cut, we'd be in Halo 3, and then we'd cut back to Halo 2, and I'd go, OOOOOO! OOOOOO! This is blurry and... What the fuck? Yeah. I just recently went through the entire Halo 2 campaign. That is a long campaign.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Wow. I hadn't played it in years. I think that was the only one I played through once did you do it I'm sure you did it on Xbox you didn't do on PC right and go for the children no no no no I don't have the PC for I don't have anything to play it in fact I just found out this a fucking nightmare I don't have a PC in my house right now I have one here that I that I can play like steam games on but I only have something capable that at home and
Starting point is 00:58:03 the trailer for Lego universe the Lego MMO just came out and it's gonna be PC only yeah I have the same problem Griffin really wants to play Star Trek online and I do too actually But I don't know the PC so I guess I'll get parallels we get a bootcamp. Yeah, yeah Yeah, not parallel as bootcamp. Yeah, bootcamp But I'm gonna go find a copy of XP somewhere boot camp is the thing on Mac where you can install windows And you just reboot instead of rebooting into Mac you reboot the windows and we're seeing exact same had no problems with it Whenever I've had to use it. There's some software that I have for our business that doesn't work on a Mac because it's business software and
Starting point is 00:58:37 But there's a thing I don't understand this you have to hold down the option key to get it to boot I've never gotten out of the first try ever ever Before that the the sound pops up. You know, I hear you yell all the time I've never had that problem like I have to boot into windows sometimes at work for a soundtrack What for audition? Adobe addition and I've never had that problem, but you're always screaming about it I just I always miss it the first time. I don't know why I think I figured out why though I think it's because I have a wireless keyboard and maybe
Starting point is 00:59:06 the keyboard is not active. I could see that sure so I was trying to figure that out. I was just trying to figure that out yesterday. I actually still have to use a PC too because the voice filter that we have for red versus blue is one filter that's only available in a certain sound program on the PC and that's not on the Mac. Can you just like pay the guys who made that filter to make a soundtrack for over? No, we made the filter. I had to make the filter back in season one
Starting point is 00:59:30 to match the speaker phone that Gus had to be called on a Puerto Rico. Hey, what's up, I'm Gus, I'm back. Okay, okay, Gus. Do you remember we'd call Gus in Puerto Rico when we get that Latin-hold music? Oh, man, I forgot about it. You recorded some of that, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:59:42 Yeah, I did. I have it, yeah. I think we put it on a DVD on season one DVD, maybe even in the outtakes. It was some kind of phone system where we'd hear this, you know, I don't know what kind of music it was, but it was Puerto Rican, Marimba music. And that guy's going to click, hello. That's the end of it. So, yeah, so we have that, and then I have to go back and constantly re-reward into PC just to filter people's dialogue.
Starting point is 01:00:04 It's almost like the kind of like the secret formula for, you know, I've always heard that they have a like a cup of grease for McDonald's that they put in everyone's fryer that it comes from the original store. That's not true. I can't be sure. Is that true? Is that true? Is it McDonald's or something else? Yeah, when they start a franchise they get like a starter cup that they put in. There's a that'd be interesting to look up. They take that seriously. Like there's a restaurant that Gus and I really like an Austin and Hamburger place called Topnatch. If you ever come to Austin, you should love Topnatch.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Super old school kind of like restaurant. They filmed a days think of fuse there. Yeah. And varsity blues was lazy there. It's fucking terrible. It's good. It's fantastic. It's good.
Starting point is 01:00:40 And like unfortunately the owner, proprietor died. What did that happen? This is like last year. But he had a special, you know, they have a special sauce. And he wouldn't let anybody else know the ingredients to the specials, including his family members who were also running the restaurant with them.
Starting point is 01:00:56 He would come and work before them every morning to make it. And so when he died, they lost the recipe and had to shut the restaurant down until they were able to break into his safe to get the rest of it. The restaurant was closed for like two weeks after he died Because they were trying to recover the recipe. They did they got it But yeah, it was a whole thing. I know the old woman who works there at the front She's always there every time you go to top notch. Yeah, that's great
Starting point is 01:01:15 But that's cool. I mean, that's cool that like that's a place that my dad went to with his mom when you know my grandmother When they were when he was a kid and it's still around like dirties by by campus you know like that place now or ever sandies there's a lot of great places like that dirties isn't nearly as dirty as it used to be they ran they're renovated like three or four years ago and clean that place up yeah but it's still kind of cool but like yeah this has been around forever like the old nighthawk off a burn it in twenty two twenty two this is not gone they just they moved it didn't they they moved it into the old Curris location. But still it's gone, you know. Yeah. Sweet locations in Austin.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I was at home the other day and like, I just, I had the four square app open when I turned on my iPhone. So it didn't locate my position at home. And you can add your own custom locations to four square if they're not in the map. Some guy added his house. So I'm now constantly checking in.
Starting point is 01:02:04 It's out. I'm trying to become the mayor of his house. So I'm now constantly checking in. I'm trying to become the mayor of his house. I hope it freaks him out. That's awesome. When he loses a mayor ship of his own house. Have every fucking awesome. Bernie B is out to do his mayor. What? Get the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Have you started leaving tips for his house yet? Oh, that's a great idea. Quit your dog for fucking barking in the middle of the night. No, because the night is sleep with this guy's wife night. Yeah. Like, putting a guy's schedule like, yeah, he's out of the house Wednesdays from 8 p.m. to midnight. The back door is usually unlocked.
Starting point is 01:02:37 That's a great idea. I may get roaring fork from you. You might. You might. I don't have fork from you. You might. You might. I have a pretty weak hold on it actually right now. Do you even figure out the actual specific way you can become mayor of something? According to the four square website, you have to have the most check-ins over the past
Starting point is 01:02:56 two months and you have to have an avatar in your profile. Okay. I just picked up mayor of Jackalope. You got mayor of bikinis. I got mayor bikinis. Which has now radically changed. You guys weren't there yesterday? They're now putting in a wall and basically
Starting point is 01:03:08 halfing the size of bikinis. Which is a restaurant we eat at a lunch quite a bit. I guess it wasn't making, we eat at a lunch. We eat at a lunch. I guess it wasn't making enough money, so they're opening an Elvis themed bar next door. Yeah, because that's what Austin needs. Everybody's clamoring for Elvis themed bar.
Starting point is 01:03:23 I hope they have live music there too. Elvis is huge in Austin. Jeff, have you ever been to eat a bikinis when Joel or Jack wasn't there? Like no. No, I've never gone ever. No, no, no, no. And that's always the same thing. We go outside and people are like, what are we going to eat today?
Starting point is 01:03:34 And everybody's like, I don't know. And then everybody, like Joel and Jack are just kind of slowly walking towards the bikinis. And they're like, well, we could go to Daddy's. Or, or we could go to bikinis. Or you like, yeah, that conversation about, hey, where do you you want to go for lunch and you can watch Joel and Jack going? Let's see a propry man Before suggesting we go eat it
Starting point is 01:03:51 And you guys go eat there in the dead of winter When all the waitresses are worth in parcasts and makes no sense I think that was because we were watching football because it's a sports bar You go and watch some football games there and it's you know If you want to go watch it with friends that don't live near you might as well go somewhere that is games on sure Right, that's pretty it's pretty rare in Austin to find a sports bar like well No downtown like what other sports bars are downtown like right next door to that place is daddy I will say the daddy's is fucking terrible. It's it's fucking terrible. It's also slower
Starting point is 01:04:22 It's also slower and it's more expensive and There's not girls in the That's the appropriate response find a bar on six feet that doesn't have a television showing a sports game I'm gonna miss the cold weather now that it's going away from us. Are you gonna miss it? I am I like it's done I mean, it's really yeah, I'm sure it's always South by Southwest was sort of the the threshold of when I would say winner ends and Sort of our summer be good. I can't wait for stuff by Southwest Dude kick ass is the opening film that you see that I kind of I think I have to buy a film badge just to go see kick ass again I'm so excited. You really don't a film badge is like 400 bucks But to see that movie again. I'm I'm that
Starting point is 01:05:01 It's not like it's the only opportunity you're ever gonna have to see the fucking movie again It's like I'm back in the vault you've seen the movie and the movie's coming out I'm sure it's not that bad that I want to see it again pay me $100 $400 and I'll get the movie for you. I'll go see other stuff too But I'm saying that is a big factor as I want to see or wait two months and see it for fucking five dollars in a matinee Jesus Christ you can see. Imagine how many times you can see it for four hundred dollars after it comes out. I love it. You can price it. See it when it buys. I was on the fence about buying a self-isolful film badge this year
Starting point is 01:05:34 and that being the opening film is pretty much pushed me over the edge. I want to see that movie. Just get a fucking press. Which you've already seen. You can't buy a press badge or you can't get a press badge. Personally, Jeff, I, or Jack, I admire your enthusiasm. Thank you. Sorry. I can have one nice compliment. Yeah, paying $400, see what movies do. For $400, I'll give you a pre-screening of the new RVB season.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Nobody else in the world will have seen it. $400 gets you into every film during South by Southwest, including all the parties where the earth, what other movies do you want to see? I don't know yet. I haven't looked at the schedule. For $400, we'll just get down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down,
Starting point is 01:06:07 we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down,
Starting point is 01:06:15 we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down,
Starting point is 01:06:23 we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just go down, we'll just If I were you, I would never see the movie again. Because you saw it with a good audience, and that colored your impression in a positive way of the movie, and I think you think you're gonna be able to recreate that, and you're not gonna be able to. I think the opening night screening of that movie at the South by Southwest will be very, very similar to what we saw at B-Nat.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I just gotta be a group of people that absolutely wanna see that movie live and are gonna have a great time. It probably won't have that temp soundtrack that you really love about that. No, no, we didn't see the see the beanat cut of it, which had like Superman music and Batman music stuff that won't make the final cut, but there's a lot of stuff that was in there that
Starting point is 01:06:52 was permanent that you know, it's going to be interesting to see how they get around that. You also saw $400 interesting. Apparently, the South by Southwest audience is so different than the button on my phone. It's true. It really is. is yes but it's not as bad as what you would think there are people who pay four hundred bucks for a film that they are different audience if you're gonna say it's if you preface this four hundred dollar badge by saying it's not as bad four hundred dollars shouldn't include the words as bad at any point well it's I mean it's not gonna be as good as as it's not going to be as good as Button-O-Mathon. Nothing's going to be as good as Button-O-Mathon. There you go.
Starting point is 01:07:27 I'll admit that, absolutely. There will never be a better rocky screening than the one we saw at the Draft House for B-Nath. That was awesome. Which was awesome. But if you- That's what I'm telling you. I'm not arguing that.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Don't try to redo it. What he's saying is you're going to pay $400 to be disappointed. I'm going to pay $400 for a film magical last being nine days that I get to see a lot of movies and go drink a lot of alcohol. I got news for you. I need you to work overtime. Most of the time. You're trying to catch lightning in the bottle again. And you're gonna be disappointed.
Starting point is 01:07:55 And you're also gonna take other people to the movie and you're telling all awesome it is. And they're gonna see it. Yeah, that was pretty good. You're gonna be like, what? Have you seen the hit girl trailer? Come on. That movie's gonna be awesome. The movie is awesome. I'm not saying the movie's not awesome.
Starting point is 01:08:07 I'm saying what it is in your head is you're not gonna be able to match that. I thought it was pretty awesome when I saw the first time and it was called the professional. Oh snap, what about that? I'm kidding. That you're talking about not being able to recreate the moment and you're showing something and people not appreciating it.
Starting point is 01:08:23 It makes me think of the, what was it it the film festival with the zombie with an X? Oh, you know what it makes me think about is there's there is that thing that when you Show someone a video that you really like and then you're two minutes into a five minute video and you realize no one that You're showing it to likes it like when Gus showed us that fucking Japanese video Japanese video that's what I was thinking about rocket chair rocket chair is the best Showed us the funniest video on the internet. It wasn't that like I remember thinking I now like Gus I'm guessing our friendship because this video. Oh, please. It was it's awesome But Gus was talking about a film festival that we went to which was actually the one that we made Real life versus the internet for Right great video. What was it called?
Starting point is 01:09:01 The you I know you you talk about calling it was the wild wild wild web and it was an interesting idea it was like an internet Browsing session but in a movie theater and they had a connection up There was at the Lincoln Center in New York and people would call out things that they wanted to see and they would look Them up online they would show them so we'd watch people's call outs like requests two minutes at time three minutes Time maybe we had like the GI Joe PSAs That kind of thing you're talking about that guy, aren't you yeah, and then we went through and we got to think and then one guy called on a Flash cartoon called zombie X X zombie it was yeah, it was on new grounds or something I think and he was like Yeah, you can't get you show the show zombie show zombie is he really excited about it?
Starting point is 01:09:40 And it was about a five minute flash cartoon and a couple jokes went by and it just wasn't hitting with the audience It was really well animated, but it was just like the audience was clearly not responding to this the whole theater full the kid panic The kid I mean the kid absolutely lost it and he was like turn it off just turn it off No never mind just turn it off it's no good and I remember that I thought so bad for that kid It was the first time I've ever seen someone in the audience bomb I'll be sure to link them, but I pull it up. I'm watching it right here He he was really yeah, he freaked out the draft house used to do something similar to that It was like bringing your own tape night. It was like you bring in a VHS tape and then they would have like best of night And stuff well they have those uh those like found movie nights
Starting point is 01:10:21 Yeah, yeah, that's a nice. It has to be a VHS tape you found somewhere like a garage somewhere Whatever there's there's that's based off found magazine, right? I don't know if it is or not Which you know what found I do know what found that magazine is that found magazine for those who don't know what it is is a Guy of basically he finds papers and collects stuff off the ground and then makes a magazine of it I don't I've never really read it, but I've heard I read it because there was a like a Seth Rogen issue. Oh really? That one, yeah. Oh that's cool. And it wasn't as good as I'd wanted it to be.
Starting point is 01:10:50 So he just went around finding articles about Seth Rogen on the floor? Like I mean, like, I mean, Seth Rogen had like a feature he did on some shit that he found growing up. And it just, it wasn't really funny. I was disappointed. Hmm. I expected more. Out of Seth Rogen? we all expect more. Speaking of found footage, I watched, I sat down and gussed chair and I'm making segue after segue
Starting point is 01:11:11 here. It just flows. It's the chair. I watched paranormal activity just because I was curious about it and it's finally out on DVD. Oh yeah. And I made the comment before that it seemed like somebody just saw the cycle that, oh oh it's been about 10 years since Blair Which let's make a movie and market it and basically the same way they did Blair which I didn't realize how on the nose That comment was until I saw the movie that movie's just like Blair which really yeah It's a movie about found footage where there was a an incident that happens they find this footage And it's footage from the police department. They recreate what happens to these people through their footage. Oh, I know it's a lot of walking around in this house It's like Blair Witch in a house where they they talk to this woman and she talks directly into the camera
Starting point is 01:11:54 And then they just have these incidents is it scary? Yeah, man, it's like that creepy kind of scary like when you're looking down a long hallway to a door in the middle of the night Kind of a thing, you know? That's cool. I don't like that kind of scary. That messes my head. Plosible scary? Yeah. Believable scary? It's definitely like a first date good movie, you know, where people are just jumping out all the time. Not like Drag Me to Hell, which was fucking awesome. I'm glad you finally saw it.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Awesome. Great film. I don't know how it missed it. Was that 2009? Because I would have said that would have been one of the better movies in 2009 was it 2009 I think it was yeah yeah that was actually that was the South by premiere at two in 2009 Joel did not he did not get it didn't get dragged me into hell no he did not get any watch the whole thing or just that scene just that one scene that you and I watch but he would see me talking about the the homage scene that evil dead to the scene at the say ounce oh yay which is nothing but evil dead to the scene of the science. Oh, yay, which is nothing but evil dead to a mosh. It's got a movie so good. So much fun to watch. Yeah, if you're a Sam Ramy fan, who yeah, you know, but if you liked evil dead, I mean, it's it's like the movie you should have made after you made the evil dead. Absolutely. Yeah. Because that's what you would expect.
Starting point is 01:12:58 It's like higher production evil dead. But it's like you watch the movie. If you had no idea who directed that movie and you watched it, you'd either be like, that's same-ramy movie or that's someone desperately trying to be Sam Ramy Yeah, it's it's so spot doing a great job. Absolutely I love that movie everybody should see you driving now. Did you pay $400 to see that movie? I did it was awesome Actually, I bought a badge to go to South by that year. So technically yes asshole. Did you pay $400 for your badge that year? I think it was like $375. I'm in I'm in a panel for South by Southwest This coming for the interactive. That's gonna be like so years in a row for you. So you get a free badge I do get a free badge, but I think I get a you get an interactive bad or do you get a gold badge?
Starting point is 01:13:36 I think I get a gold badge nice. I'll take and that's one that you can go to anything No, that's film and interactive Like the platinum is the everything that Jack Jack, can I tell you something? Yes. I would never set foot in a live music show. I, 100% agree with you. Any in your life? I, I, I, are during South Bud.
Starting point is 01:13:53 I don't like live music. Really? It's a weird thing to say, I know, because there's so much live music in Austin, but it's beat the interest in live music out of me, living in the city. I, I think of live music when I go see someone perform live. It's like, wow, this is a mediocre version of the song I like on the radio. I just like recordings.
Starting point is 01:14:08 I'm weird that way and I realize that, but I just don't go to live shows. You want to hear the polished, like finished version? I want to hear the song. Yeah, I want to hear the song. And I also don't want to separate through all the other songs that I don't like and don't listen to in my car to get to the one song. Okay. I don't want to pay $400. No, that's understandable. But yeah, the one track. You know, like the platinum badge though, it's how it buys like $700.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Something more than that. Is it like $11? Yeah, I think it's over 1,000. Yeah, it also makes me feel gay. It does. What? I want to talk about that. It makes me feel gay to go to a live show.
Starting point is 01:14:40 And like, because usually bands are all guys. What if it's a hot chick? And you're, well, yeah, who ever the beans say first sure Tiffany co-sharo crow Bring spears like it's not like a short-age of hot chick I would watch that Pablo moves chicken Yeah, yeah, probably but like if I'm like on a going to a band that I like and I'm just sitting there like staring at them all night I just feel a little awkward. Yeah,. It's not a comfortable feeling for me. But see, I saw Metallica last year.
Starting point is 01:15:07 It's out by Southwest. They had a secret Activision show when they had just announced the Metallica guitar hero or whatever. That was probably one of the best concerts I've ever been to in my life. Because it was like everyone there loved the music and they literally, it was like a greatest hits compilation of Metallica. Like they played everything you wanted to hear. Hey, by the way, there's tickets on your desk. What's that for?
Starting point is 01:15:25 That's for Jonathan Colton, actually. Oh, yeah. He's playing at Antone's next month. That's a platinum badge. The walkup rate, by the way, is 12 25. Yeah. $1200 and $25. Yes. $15.25. The, uh, yeah, like, when we go to pack and stuff, I never go to the music shows or anything like that. I like Jonathan Colton and I like his songs.
Starting point is 01:15:43 So like, uh, you know, everything he's got on iTunes, iTunes I just wouldn't I wouldn't go to a live show. I disagree with you on that like I would prefer live music but I want to so many shows as a kid growing up that I don't think I've been to one in four or five years I don't think I'll ever see another live act again. He's got burned out but the kind of music I listen to is a little different and it's all like obnoxious kids running into each other. Yeah I hate to say it but I agree with Bernie. If I could never see another live music show the rest of my life, I would die a happy man. But every time you saw this memory on the plane, you had a good experience, right?
Starting point is 01:16:09 It was worth it. Yeah, that's true. I will say living in Austin, I get really tired of the live music scene here, because it's like every bar in Austin has a stage. And every time it's like, if you go out Thursday, Friday, Saturday night, you're gonna go to a bar and there's gonna be a crappy band playing
Starting point is 01:16:24 more ways to out. That's because you go to places that have cover bands like we got a different bars. I've never ever ever ever go to a bar that has a ban playing Speaking I'm gonna say there's no bars that have you know, not that I'm saying that's the scene that you subject yourself to well anywhere You got a shake spears that not anyone say I to go have you ever seen a band play casino or jackalope? I stay away from bars have like actually I ever seen a band play Casino or Jackalope? I stay away from bars, I've seen a band play a Jackalope. I don't go to a bar to listen to, I go to a bar to talk to people. Yeah, me too. Not to have trouble. So I don't go to the kind of bars that would have music that would make it hard for you
Starting point is 01:16:55 to do that. Okay, but I'm saying the majority of bars on 6th Street are going to have live bands. I think what Jack is saying, he doesn't like bars with live music and you're saying you don't go to bars with live music. Yeah, he's saying that he's saying that you all are agreeing. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not saying all of the bars do, but I'm saying the doesn't like bars with live music and you're saying you don't go to bars with live music Yeah, he's saying that he's saying point y'all are green. Yeah. Yeah, yes I'm not saying all of the bars do but I'm saying the majority of the bars on six to eat have live music, right? Yes, you can't argue that point. Okay. Thank you. I mean it's very you could throw rock and hit one easily for yes Hey Jeff, do you know what new clips album came out last month? No, it didn't yeah really? Yeah
Starting point is 01:17:21 I'm listening to a night. I have no idea. We should get Jeff. Do you know that you died your hair? Yeah, oh, I didn't my wife did no that's not she asked me your hair She asked me if she could die my hair and I said yeah, I'm okay sure We'll you die all the gray out using some greece in formula. I do have some gray, but I wasn't I've had gray hair since I was like 14 Really we knew a dude that we worked with who went gray completely great like 24 Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Oh, yeah, Steve Martin. I got hit. I got a concussion. I got hit in the eye with a baseball when I was like 14 and then when I woke up I had gray hair. No shit. I've had it ever since. Yeah. Knocked the pigment out of your hair. Yeah. They say that they say that
Starting point is 01:17:57 trauma can do that. Yeah. Jason has like, just to play baseball. Jason has that little patch of gray on the back of his head. Or is that gray or is that like a blonde? It's like a blonde almost. It's really weird. Speaking of trauma, Gus had something on his laptop for the past hour, I think he's been trying to get to. No, that's cool. Don't fucking make sideways.
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Starting point is 01:18:32 I feel obligated to have our fringe science portion of the podcast though. Did you read that one of the explanations for why the UK is completely frozen right now? What's that? This is this kind of ties and things together. Have you guys see that picture? That's satellite image. You should linked up that satellite now. What's that? This is this kind of ties and things together. Have you guys see that? That's satellite image. Yeah. You should link up that satellite image. Yes. That's scary. Yeah. We saw a satellite image of the UK from last week where it looks like a picture of the North Pole. It's just the what Gavin will get on me about this. But it's the island of Britain of Great Britain. Great Britain. Not Ireland, but the
Starting point is 01:19:02 island of Great Britain. Great Britain is the island and it's solid white. Yeah, there's nothing green on the entire island It's like something out of the day after tomorrow. Isn't it is that's exactly what it looks like isn't North England sinking to or like getting slowly flooded? Let's hope so. Yeah, now it's ice. Now it's ice and it's like yes. It'll float. Yeah, so yeah problem solved But there's things because you know, you know, thinking about it the UK's way to hell of north. Yep But it doesn't have you know Iceland or Sweden, thinking about it, the UK is way to hell up north. But it doesn't have, you know, Iceland or Sweden temperatures because it gets some kind of Gulf stream or whatever the hell that goes through there and makes them a little bit more temperate. And they're just not getting it now. And it's they're
Starting point is 01:19:33 frozen, they're solid frozen. Ben, I read recently said there's 10 straight days of snow there, which they've never had in his entire life. Yeah. Yeah. So I was just like, it's over like 10 years. 10 or 11 years. Right. But this is great. This is from the Pakistan daily. And the reason for the cold temperatures is because of the time hole leak and leaks in quote, not time hole. But the time hole leak over Norway is what's causing the temperatures because they punched
Starting point is 01:20:01 through the troposphere. The US did because we were running experiments and we shot a high energy quantum beam into the atmosphere and poked a hole straight through the troposphere which brought down cold temperatures. Which I think is the plot of the day after tomorrow. Because the cold temperature from the atmosphere comes down through like some kind of funnel and they're using as evidence the spiral pictures from Norway for the we say that we had like two weeks ago. I completely believe that. So to the West firing of this quantum high energy beam, we had previously reported on our December 10th report,
Starting point is 01:20:34 titled Attack on God's Heaven, Lights Up Norwegian Sky. To how catastrophic for our planet this massive thermal inversion has been, Anthony Nune, an assistant general manager for risk management and Mitsubishi Corporation in Tokyo, is reporting today that the entire northern hemisphere is in winter chaos, with the great danger from this unprecedented global event being the destruction of billions of dollars for the crops in a world already near the end of its ability to feed. I know a couple weeks ago I gave you shit about not sending me links because I could find them anyway. I could never find that ago I gave you shit about not sending me links because I could find them anyway
Starting point is 01:21:05 I could never find that what the fuck is that Pakistan daily? Is that I don't even know how to find it? It's daily dot pk Is that from info wars dot com? Please send me that when I would never be able to find that one Sarah Palin actually fired the missile Oh, sir, there's there's there's a Sarah Palin's on she's a commentator on Fox News now. Yeah, good for her. Hi energy being fired into the upper heavens from the United States high frequency active a rural research program. What's that an accurate? That's so many, that's so many so many big words I totally do. His resulted in a catastrophic puncturing of our planet's thermosphere, thus allowing into the troposphere an, quote, unimpeded thermal inversion.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Was this the exosphere? No, I'm no scientist, but I have a question here. Wouldn't the space shuttle launching do the same thing? Are we puncturing the troposphere and the thermosphere? Is that what they call it? God, that's not a high energy quantum. Oh, okay, okay. This is a high energy quantum.
Starting point is 01:22:04 I guess that would be, it's a high energy quantum being it creates the hole. What Okay. This is a high energy quantum. I guess that when it's a high energy quantum Being it creates the hole for us the spatial which is article written by like an a-thread boy Well, it punctures the air in a way that the air won't reseal itself. Right. Right. Right That makes sense Yeah, is it only gonna get worse or will eventually it is the whole gonna heal itself? Let me see if I can see what the frog knows. Can we fire another missile with a giant band-aid on the end? Oh no! Look up the hole. Just fire the same missile in the other direction, right?
Starting point is 01:22:32 In a worse? Do you like to hear their analysis of what's going to happen? Yeah, please. To the long-term consequences of this thermal inversion caused by the West, these reports further warn that by the puncturing of our atmosphere, by the harp radars, our planet has also been, quote, needlessly exposed to the growing threat posed to us by the giant mysterious object currently approaching us, which we had previously reported on in our January 3rd report titled, Russia prepares for asteroid strike as new comet near Sun. Which has been blamed for the rapid shifting of our earth's North Pole that was first documented in 2005 There's a lot of information in this article if the silver surface shows up. I'm gonna be freaking out
Starting point is 01:23:11 So why he'll save us no, because the silver surface the bringer of doom right he bring her old of galactic Harold of Galactus, but he sounds like Galactus is office I love this podcast because sometimes even I feel like I'm not the nerdy person in the room Man alive so So okay so. So we're fucked. Yeah, well, egg on our face if this turns out to be true. Yeah. And we have punctured the troposphere.
Starting point is 01:23:32 If it doesn't turn out to be true, then Mitsubishi's run by idiots. We need to rely on the Russian Bruce Willis to stop a comet from hitting the earth. They're going to go up through a hole in the troposphere. If you also could poke a hole in the atmosphere, that'd be great. Like you could poke a permanent hole like all the oxygen like spears out It makes me think of spaceball. Yeah, I was just like the vacuum onto the atmosphere is to suck all the oxygen out She's gone from sucked a blow yep All right, so I'm saying this link us because you will never be a one thank you
Starting point is 01:23:59 Thank you. I also sent you the slash dot link about the ending of games now coming to an end How ironic is that speaking of things coming to an end? Should we start wrapping things up here? Okay. I need so why not? It's been a good one. Please send your PayPal donations for Jack's South by Southwest badge. Or should I say his ticket?
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