Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #51

Episode Date: March 4, 2010

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Fiiiink! So, would that be like a barbershop quartet? Yeah, except I think it was the same guy. Was it the same guy? Yeah, well that's not what he just layered his voice in. He doesn't have any friends. He's like one of those Himalayan throat singers. You know, why pick that guy's theme song?

What's that? His name is Nico and I CCO. Oh, so it's like an homage to Nico who is sitting right over here joining us on the 51st podcast today. Hello. So yeah, welcome Nico and also we have an extra special guest even more rare than the Nico appearance. They were sitting at spot number three over here. The return of Bernie Burns. I have not been gone that long. You have been gone since you made the the passionate plea about late night talk shows It's been like five weeks and and since then they've canceled all of late night

You help make a difference when I think it changed you know what else that reminds me of is did you ever have that horrible candy called Neckowafers? I love it dude. I still eat it you eat that yeah, dude. It's great. They're like they're like big like shitty great they're like they're like big like shittier versions of like chalk of chalk. Well Jeff or like less tasty than chalk. Jeff also likes circus peanuts. Oh dude I love circus peanuts. I think his opinion of candy is invalidated simply by that fact. Circus peanuts are delicious. Like yeah man. Why would you make a peanut shaped candy that tastes like banana? That doesn't make any sense. It tastes like it tastes like packing peanuts. It tastes like nothing. It's like it's the original fusion cuisine That's a very very sophisticated how you have their Jeff God could your the taste of circus would probably be horrible

I think we just taste like hay and elephant poop. Yeah, monkey poop It would taste like well, that's in a appropriate that went too far. Come on. Sorry We've been filling Nico's head with all kinds of wrong wrong information about the cast He needed to have 15 bullet points prepared to talk about it We also told him he couldn't swear because the FCC would find us yeah, I'm totally all those all those were jokes But oh, yeah, you only need 10 bullet points. Yeah, you know I also want to point out that Nico plays one of the voices in the Griffville Miner Series, which is currently airing on Waypoint. There you go. Last episode comes out this Saturday, this coming Saturday.

That was a very subtle transition. Yeah, we flew him in just to promote it. That's it. Nico's actually in town helping us with music for the new season of Red Versus Blue. Yes, very fun. We didn't actually have Nico in for in-house for recreation, but we did for reconstruction. Yep. There's inclusion. Well, I think the last time we had Nico in town was for reconstruction. I think that might be the last time I saw him.

I don't know if I've seen him again since then. To be fair, we had Gavin here for recreation and this company has a like a one Non-marry yeah one for an aqua. Well, we did have Ben and Gavino in at the same time very real Yeah, but together they weigh 112 pounds It's like or four stone four stone. It's like one real person. Yeah, first time in three shilling There you go two British men is like one American woman So how many Frenchmen does it take to make one American woman? Frenchmen are in their own class, Nico.

You don't need to worry about it. Okay. You're safe. We will not talk bad about you until you've gone home next week, or unless you say something to annoy Gus. And then we're going to talk shit about you so much. You're in what we call the Jack Gavin Joel seat, which is the seat of shame and ridicule. Oh, cool.

That's the seat that folk, that's the focal point of my anger. It's directed behind me. That's probably why he's I say so quiet. Hey Nick, are you telling me yesterday that and hopefully this is for public consumption that you have quit smoking. It's true. Do you have to give up your French citizenship if you stop smoking? No, it's in jeopardy right now, but but so long as I promise to tunic or at least once a month, I think I get to keep it. I bet You can compensate with increased wine consumption, I think, I think it's like one of the clauses. I bet Nico that I can get you smoking again before you leave.

Okay, why would you do that? What's wrong with you? Why not? I don't like to see Nico quit. He obviously loves to smoke. He loves to smoke. He loves to find his identity. It's good for him, not to.

Is it? I don't know, it's not good to shock your system like that. Yeah, we had a slowly weaned cigarette side of your system over 20 or 30 years. Go down, like smoke a half cigarette less each year, and by the time you're 90, you'll be dead of cancer. I just don't think also it has the same aesthetic to imagine a Parisian cafe with a bunch of Shirley French dudes two and a half. I'll bring candy cigarettes next time.

There you go. They still make those. Yeah, they do. Yeah, I almost bought some from my kid the other day and then I thought, what kind of fucked up message this? I was going to say you would not have candy cigarettes and we've turned out fine, but you're trying to encourage

him to keep smoking so they did affect you. Maybe it did. Well, you grew up Mexican too. Yes, I did grow. I'm still Mexican, believe it or not. That'd be a great book. Growing up Mexican. So did you have all that weird candy like the duck candy that comes in the

squirt bottle like some roll cessso? Oh yeah. Yeah, you got all that stuff. Chewing tea tantas. Are you talking about Lucas right? Yeah, what is it? It comes in like there's like different kinds of Lucas. There's like the powder which is like a chili powder with a little bit of mercury in it. Then there's like the paste which you like squeeze and it's like comes out like an agel at the top and that one's lead based It's delicious, and it has looped putts What flavor is that though?

Chilli? Chilli flavor. Yeah, like chili powder. Good lord. That reminds me of, do you remember that website Bad Candy? Yeah, I remember that show where I come. I don't think so. They quit years ago, but we used to love that because they would find the creepiest, grossest, mostly

Candy from your people. Yeah. And then try to dissect what was in it and then eat it try to eat it Yeah, well, it's pretty gross. It's like it's like all early inspiration for us there with a Ugly internet and drunk gamers. Yeah, that's true. All the Asian kids always had creepy candy too Like that I couldn't fear what the fuck it was it kind of looked like checks mix in a way But it was like shiny. Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, and like then it was there was like there was a guy I'm it's good good friend growing up with and he had

Candy that you could also eat the paper from the candy But the paper is like what it came in It's like eating the box of cereal. Yeah, got me a good that would be like if the box was made out of graham crackers And you like had cereal like you know what this needs a graham cracker like Carp the UPC code Trump on it or if you could just like open the top of the box Poor the milk in and just start chewing. Oh, that would be awesome. You can do that with a little single serving ones. Yeah. That would be cool. Did you ever have that camping trip where you cut them open and you'd

use the box as the bowl? Yeah. They had a Chinese New Year celebration at my kids school the other day and they handed out this like heart-shaped plastic container with some white gelatin shit in it with little like floating squares of something in it and all the kids Regressed up by it but my daughter like flipped for it and she took the candy from all the other kids and she came on with like 20 of them Nice, that's a fucking big day. That's for yeah, my fridge is full of these things. What is it? I'm there's no way I'm eating that She seems unaffected by it, but I'm not gonna touch it here a baby. Yes, absolutely I feel that they should make a candy eating contest as part of the Olympics next time Why not with the winter Olympics? Yeah, they got snowboarding right or slightly throughout the fake Olympics did you know

I was laughing this whole time I've been really annoyed by all the Olympic coverage I thought it was all really stupid and then like on the last day of coverage I was like oh thank god they're finally done and it's like what what do they have two sports left it's like oh they have the hockey final and they have this other thing what is this oh 30 miles of cross-country skiing that's that's a real sport anybody who is like the fastest cross-country skiing for 30 miles okay that's okay I watched it and they they that's legitimate that's right yeah and they ratchet up the difficulty by

letting skiers skiers change their skis every every like laugh if they want to yeah if they want to and then they got to. Yeah. And then they got to like catch up. That was. Yeah, they can make pit stop. I saw some guy like trying to make a pit stop, but his coach hadn't told the pit crew. I guess that he's coming into change skis. He just wasted time because he came off and couldn't change skis and had to get back out there.

They were, you know, they time it to six seconds is considered a good time to change skis and get back out on the course. That's a real sport. It's pretty impressive. Not, not snowboarding or curling or anything. Dude, you can talk shit about snowboarding, but the snowboard cross thing they had was awesome. What was that?

That was like a track with a bunch of jumps and stuff. It's like motor cross on snowboards. And it's like four people go out, and it's like four people go out, three people go out. No, no. It's like, it's basically like, if you can stay on the board you get a medal and nobody can

It's just like I I watch a dude crash so hard He's like he covered the ground and blood just busted his face all up. It's super dangerous. Yeah That's awesome Gotta go with the times man can't be living in the past forever to me if it's not the decafalon Like you don't do it in the decafalon. It's not a real It's not the de-cathlon. Like you don't do it in the de-cathlon, it's not a real Olympic man. My qualifier was always, if it's not something that's advantageous to you in a time of war, it's not Olympic of it.

If it's not something you can use for combat. Dude, they should make biathlon, they should have the athletes shoot at each other. You know, that would be awesome. Like I was talking about biathlon to my wife, she's like, is that a real event? She thought I was making it up. I was like, no, it's real. Why isn't it on TV? Is it?

Because it's fucking entertaining. I think skiing and shooting? That's awesome. Why would you want to watch that? Yeah, just for those of you don't know, the buy Athlon is when you ski cross country, then you stop and fire a rifle that you're carrying on your back at targets. It's like the James Bond event. It's awesome. You know the dude who thought of it's a badass too, because it's the buy Athlon. It's the two thing race, right? And the only two things that this dude knew were skiing and shooting sks. That was it. It's like we only have a race doing the two things we know about shooting and skiing. That's it. Probably some dude from Norway. But I no, I agree. The original Olympic games were all had some kind of, they were like

extended metaphor, right? And you do the javelin and you ran. And some things like the shot put maybe didn't necessarily have combat. It's like combat. If you ran out of gunpowder for the cannon, if you could still like hurl the cannon ball at the enemy right and then maybe adding gymnastics because that's what Gregor Roman wrestling yeah you know but like they should give them knives a Gregor Roman wrestling should be like hand-to-hand combat you gotta recognize though that if you don't contemporize the Olympics and help it stay up with the times it's gonna go the way of the world's fair and nobody's gonna give a

fuck about it. Well thank you. Thank you. I have a snowboarding. I hope that worked out. I really enjoyed it. I would say the world's fair was something that was over contemporized right. I mean that was the whole thing. They were the they were the festival of the future. Right. Yes. How many how many world monuments or were built because of the world's fair? They just the Eiffel Tower. Of course, I know. St. Louis Arch was built for that. Was that the Toronto CN Tower? I don't know about that.

Built for the world's fair? Well, how do you know that? Just because you go to these places and they say this was built for the so-and-so world. I think you're right about the CN Tower. But even like, how do you feel that your Eiffel Tower was built for the world's fair? It was. Yeah, and 1883, I believe. Wow, that's cool.

Why did they build that big dopey Ferris wheel in London? Not for the world's fair. No, it wasn't was a million. They built the They built the the larger Ferris wheel that was twice the size of that one in Chicago for the 1893 That was the original Ferris original Ferris wheel built by Ferris But they dismantled it like 30 or 40 people in a car on that one people a car Jesus Wow, where's that was in that? It doesn't exist anymore It was the first Ferris wheel It had giant cars that could hold 60 people. Dude. That's got a someone start throwing up in one of those or when they start trying to rock the car

Like that's holes do absolutely they had I read a story that they had somebody go nuts on that Ferris wheel It at that world's fair and tried to open the door and get out and like the 60 passengers subdued him It wasn't like the original it was like the original dude going nuts on an airplane. Yeah, after that didn't think like have one or two like guards security guards. Yeah, they had some pretty cars because people were freaking out. That would be an awesome winter Olympic sport like the cable car that you have to escape from. Yeah, that kind of thing. That thing was built specifically to like outdo the Eiffel Tower. And supposedly at the time it did but you know obviously it didn't withstand the test of time. Eiffel Tower. And it's supposedly at the time it did,

but obviously it didn't withstand the test of time. Eiffel Tower is still there. Eiffel Tower is still around. You know what I like about that? Do you ever tell me about that? Was it cross boarding? What's it called? Snowcross?

Snowcross. The thing I really like about that is that you mentioned it's four people, right? So in the final race, three of those dudes are getting medals and one dude's a big fucking leader. It's true. And they're also allowed to, that's also contact so they're a lot to push to each other and stuff.

They should have knives too. They should do. If they don't get to that point. If they had knives to every Olympic event, it might be a figure skating. Knives. You should be allowed to use snowballs and icicles in any event. For whatever, however you can repurpose an icicle, you can use it in an Olympic cement. Why use knives when you can, as Jeff said, contemporize and use automatic weapons. weapons. There you go knives are more elegant. It's more of a throwback. It's an ancient art of warfare

Be a bow and arrow. I'll give you that bow and arrow. They should be like fencing Crossy poles and that's it. That's it. That's all they do. They're ice javelin Fencing with ski poles. That's it Think I don't have the dumbass ribbon event, you know that they have in the summer Olympics Are they dance around with the band? Oh, yes, and the ball right? That's like another portion of that event If they have the ball as well. Yeah, stop making events. That's what I say Something gymnastics right performance gymnastics dancing gymnastics. It's got a it's got a very specific name. Yeah And honestly the problem with the Olympics the way I see it now is that it doesn't really feel to me

like an athletic competition. The winner of Olympics actually kind of do, but like the summer Olympics, they just feel like this is our genetic showcase. You know, this is the Chinese gymnasts are all, you know, four and a half feet tall. And here they just stripped the medal from the 2000 Chinese team.

2018? Yeah, I think it's 2008, a 14 year old on the team they determined after all this time I think it was 2000, but it just doesn't feel like like Michael Phelps Doesn't really feel like a super athlete. He just feels like a guy who's like genetically the perfect swimmer to me and loves pot Does that mean that he loves pot? He thinks or he just just worked that much harder than everybody else. No, I don't think so his life I think I think if I spent my entire life

dedicating every waking moment to gymnastics, I would still be beat. I mean, I disagree. I thought a ham tour. You think Tiger Woods was genetically engineered? I'm not talking about golf. Well, I'm just saying that sports in here. In the Michael Phillips example,

I think, you know, Michael Phillips benefits from having like a larger lung capacity than normal. Like there's things like that that you can't control. Like you can't train and increase your lung capacity. Like you're set with it. And he's got hands like frying pans. I mean, and the frying pan genetic mutation

also worked in his advantage. Yeah, I mean, what's next? The guy gets gills and we're gonna say like, oh, work hard kids, you can get gills one day too. You know? And no, I mean, I can work on my lung capacity, but there are certain sports I couldn't play. Women's field hockey, for instance.

I'm genetically predisposed to not be able to play that. I don't know. I think if you started early enough in life and were dedicated enough that you could excel, you could get to the Olympics and anything. You don't recognize that there's a certain body type for floor gymnastics that doesn't exist in everyone. Sure. But everybody around the world gets to have that.

I mean, there are, it's not like nobody in Wisconsin has that body type, you know. Yeah, but eventually, I mean, you can start it. But then, you know, at the end of the day, like 98% of people are going to, it's like, Oh, you're too tall now. Sorry. You work, you work, you work for 10 years to try to be on the Olympics, but you got to gain that extra inch. Sorry. But that's the way it is for everything. Like, like, what what how many short models are there? You've got to be tall enough You got to be a certain height to be a yes, but it doesn't preclude you from actually physically being able to do it But there's the there's like the running back. There's always like the bangles who's five with six But there's always an exception to the rule like there's fun web. Yeah, yeah, that's that's wrong though

You have that kind of thing, but in the Olympics it's five people from the country the country you know and that's it so you're gonna end up with those people you know it's I guess it's far harder to have the exception of the rules is what it boils down to when it comes to the Olympics sure yeah I mean it's like you look at any kind of sport it's usually at least people from within the same continent competing against each other and there's big teams like soccer or you know basketball here as that that is an example the Olympics it's one sport and it's the five people who are best at that sport from those specific countries You know and the people who do have those weird genetic variations they exist. They don't get medals You know, they're not in there competing. You I don't know the the the American Bob sled dude that won the Bob sled for America was bigger than Jack You see that guy. Do you see the poor that dude into that?

He was working with a bunch of he was he all of his teammates look like Superman and spandex and he had Like the Jack Patilla got they need a one-to-goal medal the extra weight at the tip of the Bob Slat to get it going Yeah, extra fast. There's gotta be something to that right. It's gotta be right like a big dude on lose would be incredible They're like you got it. You got it pound the six pack before we go out there We need the extra 72 ounces of liquid weight He gets tested for Twinkies. That didn't seem to come up at all this Olympics. What, Twinkies?

No, testing. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. They didn't talk about. I watched the Olympics every single day that it was on. I never talked about it. Didn't watch a second. I went to Vegas two weekends ago, and I accidentally watched some curling.

I didn't see any curling. I heard that there was like, I guess there's a curling lead here in Austin and this past weekend they had an event where people come out if you want to learn more about curling. I guess because of all the Olympic hoopla and they had it up at the Old North Cross Mall with the ring there and they said that 700 people showed up. Oh wow. Next week there's gonna be seven. They'll say. You know they're gonna have 800% attendance the week after Olympics.

Speaking of curling league, I walked in on something really weird last night after... It's not that fun. We all went out to dinner last night with Nico and Cori and everything and then you guys all went home to your Families or whatnot and Griffin and I went out on a date and we went to this bar over on these I called scootin It's like the oldest bar in Austin I guess. And they had a we walked in on the ski ball league. They have a ski ball league at this bar. They have two ski ball things and they're like they there was like 30 people and they had clipboards and score sheets and they were taking it super seriously. It was very entertaining to watch. Did you give it in there?

No way dude. They they were pretty serious. I didn't want to get involved in any of that. But I appreciate the fact that there is a ski ball league in Austin should totally be an Olympics You know, it's funny. I went to shift here Yeah, why not me the spring Olympics in 2016 Skittles We went to the high ball with my wife a couple weeks ago And she's hot ski ball machines there. She really wanted to play she wanted like a fake mustache or something It was like 20 tickets But the same thing like the line was like super long

You know, it's way too long. I took a I went to roller derby the season opener the other night and they had a ski ball thing They're a million wanted to play, but there was like 40 people. Millie was a fucking innovator on the video games. Yeah, they're in half time She wanted to go to the arcade section and she just like Naturally, there was a time crisis to machine next to Arctic Thunder machine and she jumped machine and she jumped in the artic thunder machine and grabbed the steering wheel and just like I didn't say anything to her doll she just reached over and grabbed the gun from time crisis That started just shooting at the boats

That's awesome. Like it was the most normal thing in the world. I was blown away. It was a proudest moment of my life. A natural born pirate. Yeah, pretty much. I got the instincts. Didn't realize there were no quarters in either machine, but they didn't seem to slow it down. Oh, that doesn't matter. Yeah. You mentioned the high ball. Yeah, and I guess this is gonna be where we talk about local businesses part of the podcast great

I love this part my favorite part of the box. I know you do I so we've talked about the Alamo draft house leader before the high ball is the bar that is owned by the people who own the Alamo draft house Which is great except for one thing they put the bar in the same fucking shop and complex as the Alamo Drafthouse, which already didn't have enough parking. So now it is literally impossible to go there. As long as you drop in from the sky

and you don't drive your car there, then you're okay. Yeah, like when I went to the high ball the other day, you know, I pulled in the parking lot and it was fucking, there was not a single goddamn space. And I thought, it's gonna be impossible to get a table here. And eventually I parked like two blocks away, walked over, I said, on my head, I was like, I don't even know why I space and I thought it's gonna be impossible to get a table here Yeah, and eventually I parked like two blocks away walk over I said on my head. I was like I don't even know why I'm walking here

It could be impossible. I'm gonna wait like an hour to get a table walking half the place was empty You really cuz they couldn't accommodate their parking. Yeah, I came in I was like okay, I guess I'll sit immediately a neat It seems I think their overall corporate strategy is to force everyone else out of that shopping center It must be right? Sure. Even if they do that, I don't know what they're not going to increase their parking, but those other businesses can't take more than five spots total. Is it legal to, in a shopping center where you all share parking spaces? Is it legal to mark off spots as for your place only?

If it's in your lease. Yeah, if it's in your lease. If you're in your lease guaranteed X number of parking spots, then you can do that. And we, I mean, but you can be towed and there's no you have no recourse right right dude there's but come on you've seen the other businesses in that shop that fucking that fucking Casagar see a has so many spaces yeah I know marked off but I mean there's like a sub shop a fabric store the sub shop smart they're drive through they are there's like five fucking well they were there before Alamo was yeah and they recognize that the parking was to be back and five Thrift stores next to each other all in one block and then like a

Religious bookstore. I don't see a lot of traffic going into that place regardless Well, you have to wonder too like if you run a business like that and you think oh wow They're building an Alamo here. That's gonna be cool. That's gonna cause a lot of foot traffic What do you think the turnaround time is before they absolutely hate having that there? They must have. 30 seconds. You know what though? I bet if anything, they might appreciate it more because the previous business in that Alamo probably was worse off for them.

Like that was the HB before it was an Alamo draft house. It was? Yeah. And so they had people, they had people going to the grocery store from probably 8 a.m. till 10 p.m. packing that parking lot. Alamo at least probably doesn't start to fill up till 5 p.m. Yeah, they had shopping carts. Yeah, and shopping carts on that nonsense. All right, you're lot. Alamo, at least, you know, probably doesn't start to fill up till 5 p.m. Yeah, it's shopping carts. Yeah, and shopping carts all that nonsense.

All right, you're mine. Alamo's doing the right thing. But how much business do you need to do with one of those stores to legitimize using their parking spot? Like, if there's a McDonald's parking spot, can you go in there and buy a French fry and park there? I don't think McDonald's will sell you a French fry.

I'm sorry to break it to you and you go. Oh, and France they can. It's part of the treaty. I'm just taking you order lef fry. They just call them fries. Or as much France they can. It's part of the treaty. You order le fris. They just call them fries. Or as much as they want. What do you call French fries in France? Freedom fries.

Are they palm tree? Actually, no, they're called fleets. But what's funny is when McDonald's first moved to France. In French, a mackerel means it's a kind of fish, macro, but in slang, my Coise at Pimp, it's not a very pretty word to use in a big Mac, essentially means big Pimp in French, and so there's some conversation as to whether they should It's just like when people talk about Macking and Pimping, the same thing. It's crossed over, it's all connected, it's a beautiful language. Totally changes the

branding if you think of like Grimmis as aimp he wears purple I could see some gold chains on grimmis he's got the fry guys as a little his little stable are they still is that still a property like do like do your kids know who grimace and like the hamburger and all that stuff I don't know what grimace is what the f**k is grimace but I mean I just know it was I haven't been to McDonald's in years they still they still push those brunette no idea right I thought those were part of Burger King.

Yeah, you know, my kids watch TV and I'm amazed by the, they still have a lot of the same advertising. Kid advertising hasn't changed at all. It's still candy made to look like hallucinogenic drugs. Probably with very similar effects. And they still use fear to sell breakfast cereal. I don't know why it is. How? Look at every campaign ad campaign for breakfast cereal.

Kids breakfast cereal. Somebody has the cereal. Somebody else wants to take the cereal away from them and we'll go through disguising themselves to try to get it from them. And then they reveal that they, oh, we know it's you, you don't get the cereal. Sure, like cookie criss-co,

like, for tricks, right? For trick, right? And lucky jaws. Cocoa puffs. Even like the, what's theinstones when the pebbles cereal yeah he wouldn't let Fred get it you can't have you're not allowed to have this that's the same or something you're all the same you can only have it if you're good enough yeah what's the cereal in your house I guess the kicks that

that's the kick side I'm pretty boring yeah I like kicks. We're a captain. I'm pretty boring Have a crunch is good. You know like crunch. I hate crunchberry. So I don't mind crunchberry frozen waffles Frosal waffles are good. Yeah kids like frozen waffles. I want my kids will actually eat the waffle frozen It's not the wrong with that. I used to do that. No, that's weird. That's weird. Yeah, that's totally weird We're spending a lot of money to fix that If only you could you could find a way to touch them in the box in the freezer man I'll tell you what working with Jeff now for 12 years. Yeah, however long it's been has definitely prepared me for

Having kids at meal time because going out to lunch with Jeff Where he can only eat in three locations and doesn't eat foods that are white and doesn't eat foods that touch other foods and all that Prepared me for having picky-ass. My wife is constantly amazed by you're not wanting to eat anything white-rules. And like, out of the blue, she'll be like, so white rice, we'll Jeff eat that. And I'll be like, yeah, definitely white rice.

I prefer white. I prefer not to eat white rice, though. I prefer brown rice. White? OK. Can I ask? Yeah. Why won't you eat white stuff?

I don't know, man. Is it like perverse racism? No. I really don't know What it is it just creeps me the fuck out like anything that's white and goopy you think that people just put come all in your food Yeah, I think I don't even know if it's like a jizz factor. It's just like I'm not a big fan of Marshall. I wonder if that website's taking just fact I've been jizz factor read I is taking like I can I can stomach marshmallows like in hot cocoa and stuff but I would never like eat a marshmallow on

its own I wouldn't know why you would do that. Not a lot of people eat marshmallows on their own. Like a sandwich? The marshmallow sandwich. I probably wouldn't have it in the underbred. By the way don't go to just factor or just factor. Please if you look in this podcast do not go to the list. Don't link stuff though. Yeah. It's the only meaning to link don't go. Don't go to the base dump those. Yeah, they can only meaning the link dump. Don't go there. Big surprise there. Anyway, I have to say in my defense though, I have really

expanded my eating palette over the last four or five years. I gotta give you that. Yeah. My wife has really forced me to eat new foods. She's not like you're embracing it wholeheartedly. She told me when we were getting married, she said, I'm gonna marry you. But there's one thing we have to talk about. And I was like, okay, I thought it was.

I didn't know. And she said, I'm not gonna spend the rest of my life married to somebody who won't eat a fucking thing. So you're going to have to learn to like new foods. And so I've made an effort. Good for her. I'm up on Indian food now. I like most of the Asian cuisine. I can't believe you're eating Indian food. We've had a lot of... We had a lot of problems about this. A lot of downs and downs with Indian food in the past. How come? It's delicious. Yeah, I agree now. Yeah. I said to find that place. Jeff's finally not eight years old anymore. Yeah

You know, I went through a period where I was a vegetarian for a while when I was like six because I was too lazy to to meet It doesn't surprise me though. I was like I was like oh, this takes so much work. I thought I'd just eat vegetables You know you guys were talking speaking of lazy the other week on the podcast you're talking about having a disc Changer, I'll be so sweet This is thank I was show out numbered and and also like there is a new will five came out like as a as a game on demand off Great now. I have two choice I can play battlefield 1943 or Resident Evil 5 if I have the wrong game in my 360 Yeah, the game's on demand thing is pretty cool Except it's not quite as convenient as you think because I was downloading especially your wire. It takes a long time Yeah, you could take two days to

download a full game. I don't know if it's necessarily that your wireless. I feel like their service is slow. Is that what it is? Yeah, because I mean if you think about it, if you're connected on a G network, you could have 54 megabits that you put. If you're wired, it's only a hundred megabit network card on there. Why can't they set it up like Zun Marketplace where you can stream immediately? I know. You can do the download 10% of the game immediately jumped in. Fable kind of has that You know what? You're right about that. Wow does that if you download the trial version of wow from the website

You can start playing within like 10 minutes it like downloads I guess like the starting areas first and then as you're playing the game It's streaming down the rest of the content that's fucking brilliant. That's great. Hey speaking of wow You speaking of wow speaking of wow, well weird time that came up you You got into the Starcraft beta. I did what did you I was hanging out with you While you were installing it and then you were trying to find a game and then I had to go do something else How did what do you think of it? I don't really know what's okay to talk about but it's cool. It's a cool Starcraft. Yeah, you talk about it. It's Starcraft

I mean, you know, I was just going through it. Not to go on specifics, but you liked it It was yeah, I mean, it was funny how I was going back to stuff that's old blizzard aesthetics like clicking on my pion character over and over and over again to hear all the different stuff They said and it was fun. It was it was it's very very cool You know, it's obviously still beta I don't know if the final version will be like this But it was kind of cool because the ambient music in the game was very like retro and through back to the original starcraft I felt I don't know if you noticed that

Franco Conner one time said, I think it was either about Halo 3 or Halo 2. It must have been Halo 3. He talked about the multiplayer, their strategy for it for the Halo games. And this is, the Halo Reach trailer also came out today for multiplayer. I think it was leaked and then finally released.

Right, right. But Frank, he said that they treat it essentially like a sport where they want to keep it new and fresh but you don't change the fundamental rules of sport right and i think that's a great way to look at it and to starcraft you could definitely say is a sport in some parts of the world oca definitely career right should be an Olympic event that would be awesome you want to contemporize why not

yes you know well we might see something like that i don't know i'll go out honestly i don't consider competitive video gaming as sport or anything special at all. It's one of those things I think that in theory, you think, wow, this could be big, and then even I can't watch it. Yeah. Yeah. Right? I mean, I thought I actually value the skills

that these people have, but it's just not that interesting to watch someone else play a video game. It's a whole other, like, I don't know, like method of scoring. And this a whole other like I don't know like method of scoring and this whole other thing that we don't understand like playing Starcraft professionally you have like there's a measure of like actions per minute that you execute right and you have to execute like you know over 80 actions a minute if you want to stay competitive it's like what the fuck yeah it's commands per minute that's crazy and then there's no chest there is some stuff like that though You we've all seen that video of some kind of street fighter championship where the guy comes back with some ridiculous block combo. Yeah. And a room full of like a thousand people goes crazy.

And I it's like, okay, I recognize that everybody loves this. But what the hell's happening? I don't understand. Oh my God. He pulled a quarter crescent hard punch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He got like street fighter has really changed over the years too where they have those Mega moves, you know, they're not just the hidden moves It's like power-ups and crazy combos and the big thing. Yeah, shit's complicated. Just complicated. I think what's good? Oh, good. I feel like an old man I prefer my street fighter when it was Street Fighter 2 not even turbo any of the other shit Just regular Street Fighter 2. Did you ever play Street Fighter where they had the big buttons and how hard you punch,

depending on how hard you hit the button? No, that's awesome. They were big huge rubber buttons. I don't think I'm interested. And they didn't have the six buttons, they just had two buttons, punching, okay? And if you push punch really hard, it did a fierce punch. That's crazy. Yeah, those were Street Fighter. I used to play this hacked ROM version of Street Fighter 2 in Mexico, like across the board from where I lived where Giles sonic booms went like up and down like in a sine wave pattern instead of just going straight. Why? Why not? I was a block it was it was fucking crazy and then like everything was amped up like to 300% speed It was it was a fucking nightmare to play. What are you good?

No, no, it's terrible because the rules are all broken. It's not balanced You know you're asking while the Vatos yeah But yeah, I think someone told me recently that that's called like the rainbow rom or something like that Oh, yeah, man It's been a kind of crazy week or two for video games that feel like like you just got into battlefield bad back company Two last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I started hitting up the multiplayer How fucking tremendous is that game like it's great? It was a little pissed off last night because I tried to join games for like half an hour and it kept telling me it couldn't Find any games. It was like battle for the 1943 all over again Oh, it was a game pissed off. I was like this is dice again

You know even had a beta for this why don't they have the server capacity ready? But I like after 30 hours of hit or 30 minutes of hitting a over and over I eventually got into a game man I haven't had that problem yet, but uh, and that sucks, but that game But then I got in and it was it was worth it. I quickly forgot 30 minutes of frustration. Dude, there's so many cool mechanics to that game. Like the whole marking enemy, so your school, the rest of your squad can see. Marking is fantastic.

And like in the rush game type where you have this giant map and as you take objectives, like the whole the battles shifts and it moves down the map. Yeah, there's like an A and a B objective and you have to take it while they defend it And if you take it they have to retreat to a second and then you have to take that then they have to retreat to a third a and b And then you can't move in that and then you win so you're not like constantly reloading a map You know you're just playing down the same map. It's it's but it's constantly changing and being fresh because you're moving down In new sections of it. It's really did you fly a UAV at all? Yeah, I flew a UAV It's fucking great. We will fucking helicopters. They a jet ski. I didn't get in the jet. Yeah, that's super fun. And then as you it's kind of like modern warfare, where as you level up, you get access to more weapons. Even early on, you can like

customize your class and change the weapons you have. So you still get like that from modern warfare where like everyone has a diverse like weapon set that they like and they're falling into their niches. And you always want to play with a medic who's got the defibrillator. Yeah, I feel like I'm playing the game right now. Good. It's really fucking fun. It's really great. Really great. I was out of fun game type for Halo that they could add on pretty easily would be kind of a meta game like that where you had a big map and then you had choke points along the way which were arenas, you know, we call multiplayer maps now and at the end like you start in the middle and you had just a normal firefight team slayer game and then if you beat that team you push them back to

their base and then you had one man assault going their way. That's it yeah like you'd win like over the course of a couple of maps. So you have to you have to win like a deathmatter to to get to the point where you could do in assault and like lower base up. And blow their base up. That's awesome. That's what they also but they push you back this way. Yeah so much to put you in charge. I hear there's some openings in Activision right now or at Infinity War. Yeah what's up with that? Yeah I don't know. I don't think the whole story has come out yet

but I guess a couple of people were let go for insubordination. Is that what it was? Insubordination like the CFO and the Cf. I don't know it was in the the Activision's SEC 10k filing and then immediately after that they announced that it was sledgehammer games is not developing for call Do you mean they're developing action an adventure or call of duty right? No, no, no, I mean, I think you're skeptical, but these are the sledgehammer game This is the people who these are the guys who started the studio that made Deathspace? Yeah, no, no, I know. Okay, yeah, Deathspace is a great game.

I just, I just don't want, I like Call of Duty, and I like that there's a Call of Duty a year. I just, I worry that it will oversetch right if they put out more than one game a year. You know what I mean? I guess I guess if the game plays different enough, then maybe that won't be the case, but... I can see that concern, but I mean, mean hopefully they'll hopefully they'll keep it fresh. How long is the Xbox fan out? For a little over four years, four years and four months. There are six call of duties on the Xbox now.

But didn't these service call of duty two? Yeah, but then they went back and added call of duty one to expo. We even talked a lot about the arcade lately. It seems like it's been kind of an arcade drive period, right? Although Toy Soldiers came out this week which is supposed to be pretty good game. Perfect darks coming out soon, tech mobiles coming out soon. There's a lot of stuff in the horizon.

I'm excited for that tech mobile game. I am too. Not to derail our call of duty conversation. No, yeah. I think as long as they manage the process, like as long as they manage the franchise appropriately and they have some people in charge looking at the big picture, it'll be okay.

And I'm not very scared about it. It's a big cash cow for them. They're not gonna want to fuck it up Yeah, it's good point like reading that that filing I just I just don't want to go there. I just don't want to go the route of like guitar here where they're like I How many guitar hero games are there? Nobody knows because they come out with a new game every quarter Yeah, I mean, but that's also because they started making rock band games. That's like saying oh well, you know They make a bunch of bad company games too. You know, that's going to dilute the call of duty series. That's not necessarily true. But you can screw up something by servicing it too much. Yeah, let me get to our hero. What is it? Guitar hero, erosmith guitar,

Metallica, there's like every band has their own guitar here. That's a music. Band hero. There's no such thing as too much music, right? Yeah. I guess. Who made band hero? Band hero is not made by NeverSoft, is it? I don't know. It's a, it's a guitar hero property though. Is it? Yeah. Band hero is not made by never soft is it I don't know it's a it's a guitar here property though is it yeah Band Hero is the more family friendly version of guitar hero. It's their competitor to Lego rock band How do they make it more family friendly? It's a different song selection and like pretty like Like more I don't know kid friendly graphics and stuff. Yeah guitar heroes all like safety pins and little hocks and nonsense. Oh, no Not safety pins and little hocks and nonsense. Oh, no. Yeah. Not safety pins. I'm just saying. That's like French preschool. Like, I think band here is more like Smashmouth, you know, and like really super pop-

Speaking of Smashmouth. Yeah, speaking of Smashmouth, that was a funny skid on SNL this week. I was not a fan. Never soft did develop band hero. What the fuck? I was not a fan of this week it develop band hero. What the fuck? I was not a fan of this week's SNL, but the Smash Mouth skit was fucking awesome. I agree. It was not a good episode. The opening skit had a really funny premise

and it was not done well, which was that Quincy Jones was announcing we are the world three to address the catastrophe that was we are the world two. Oh, terrible. Which I thought was pretty funny it was a funny premise but it didn't it wasn't executed at all this is the first time I ever saw

you're you're gonna disagree with this because you hate her but it was the first time I saw Kristen Wigg in a skin I really didn't like her in what was that she played Gwen Stefani and she did a good job actually I asked because I've seen only thing I saw and I thought you did a great job did you find that is the day you got to go into funny thing though. No, you Guess you do don't you? No, you don't find her attractive Any more than any other famous hot chick, okay. I don't have like any more than any famous hot chick Any other famous hot chick that I want to bang and

I thought you did I thought you had a really funny not really I More of a thing for Kristen Wagon Winston-Wonnie. Oh, there you go. Kristen Wagon's hot. Two of your favorite things came together. That's true. You should probably take down your Gwen Stefani poster for you to keep up that ruse. I hope she's not listening. There was, I was working late Friday night and one of the sites that Jeff and I go to quite often is a site called What Would Tyler Durden Do? Yep. W-W-T-D-D.com. It's just basically, it's like a good version of Perez Hilton. Yeah.

Essentially, or more geared towards, I guess, people like a more sarcastic version of Perez Hilton. Yeah, very snarpy. Not snippy and bitchy, but like funny and. Snippy and mean. Snippy and mean. Yeah. He put up a picture on Friday night of Marissa Miller. Is she this?

It almost melted my computer. I'm pretty sure. That was unbelievable. She don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I thought. I like I had it up with like an thumbnail on my desk and like people from across the room were like, hey, Bernie, what are you working on over here? So did you see the new photos that he put up of iced tea's wife Coco? No, she's awesome though. These are all like really high class photos and you should just check. They're also super photoshopped. Yeah.

It looks like she's painted over on top of herself. Yeah. So is that why you moved your computer out of the backroom Bernie? You couldn't send being alone in the same room with the picture of Merissa Miller? No, we have, and the reason why I've been from the podcast you is we're just on a hellacious Shushish production schedule right now and I just had to move into the main room because I need to be able to grab people Whenever you know it came up, you know and Jeff's working on achievement hunter stuff now And so he's not available all the time and so it's just I needed to have some focus

You know for everyone on what we're doing right now Yeah, so you know you're out in the main room and what used to be your computer, the podcast computer, this is the Jack's computer. Yeah, he moved back here where I was. Yeah, so we had to kick him out today to record this podcast. Ah, the Jack Free Zone. Well, all these companies all segregated now, Achievement Hunter's hiding in the back room. Pretty soon we'll be able to see the neat of it. Yeah, hiding, as opposed to being hidden in the back room. There you go. Oh, sorry, I'm gonna pick some rest of my... Yeah, hiding as opposed to being hidden in the back room. There you go. Sorry, I'm gonna fit picture in my

So you I'll be back with you in a moment you mentioned it in passing but the the Halo Reach multiplayer trailer came out earlier today Yeah, it was jet packs. Yeah jet packs is interesting Looks, uh, I know I think Bernie and I had the same reaction that a man that pictures so hot I can't stop staring. Oh, what was I saying? Oh yeah, the trailer. Yeah, the jet packs. That's interesting. I think Bernie and I have the same reaction that it reminded us both of the tribes.

Well that was the first thing I thought of, yeah, but Halo with jet packs is going to be incredible. I don't know. Now they just need to add some grappling hooks. I don't. Honestly, God, I don't remember the grappling hooks from tribes. Maybe I'm crazy. It's going to be, it's kind of hard for me to wrap my head around actually that it's I don't know how I'm gonna play halo with a jetpack

It's gonna be crazy. Yeah, I wonder how that's gonna work. I wonder if it's equipment, I guess I don't know or class base There is yes, they're I don't think they call them classes based on the trailer. It looks like they call them Loadouts load out load out your character before the match, which essentially is like picking a class. And I didn't do too much analysis because I figured what's the point. I'll just wait an hour and someone on halodebundsie.org will have a frame-by-frame analysis of the trailer. And sure enough, we've already started that process. Yeah, I noticed in one of the shots, they blurred out the information the lower the left,

like who killed who or something like that. I thought it was really weird. Or maybe how they killed them. Right. Could be interesting. But in the shot where they have the first show the jet packs, there's one of those graphics of this loadouts. And there's a guy in jet pack flying.

There's a guy who's semi invisible. It looks like. Yeah. Like he load out some kind of stealth package. And then there's another person running much faster than everybody else. But they've, you know, maybe built their armor for speed So it looks like there's gonna be classes and I mean They can't hide the jetpacks as a class. I clearly that's something different. Yeah, absolutely But it looks like there's gonna be a much more customizable version of the game across the board

It's gonna be super interesting. You know, there's a fight in the world of Warcraft with jetpacks Maybe jetpacks are gonna be in every video game from here on out. It's possible Which fight is that? Just came out jet Jetpack game. Gunship. Icecrown citadel. Haven't done any. Icecrown citadel.

Is that a love you, Gus? Jetpacks are the new regenerating shields. It's just new. I just haven't played it. I just haven't played it well in a while. It's amazing how many games now have that regenerating shield effect. If it's not an actual energy shield,

it's some kind of like, oh, you're hurt, just fine cover and recover that way. Pretty much every FPS now. Yeah, pretty much. Let's Halo the first people to do that with the regenerating shield. Yeah, Call of Duty 1, you regenerated health. You didn't regenerate. But did you have health? You just got shot and you were dead. Yeah. Like, if you play, you play it on the Xbox Live, you to play it on veteran, you can't, there's no health packs and you don't regenerate health. So if you get shot, shot. Wow.

It's hard to shit to get through level. It's crazy. Yeah. And no jet packs. Yeah. And no jet packs on professional on veteran. Jet packs should be an Olympic event. Yeah.

Only damn nice. Yeah. I've been playing Mass Effect because I started playing Mass Effect in order to prepare for playing Mass Effect 2. Mm-hmm. Big mistake. I told you not to do it. Big mistake to do that. I've been playing Mass Effect now for about three weeks straight. How close are you to your 1000 points or 1100 points? It's 1200 points total now at this point. Um, that I have to get. I'm very close, but very close means I only have about eight more run-throughs of the game. People who say you can get 100% of the achievements in that game with three run-throughs, they are lying. They are. I mean, this is straight up lie. It's straight up lie.

Or those just get cast holes. No, you can't do it. Because you have to play every specialty class to get all the unlocked casting achievements, then all the weapons achievements, then with all the different characters, then on different heart. Why 100% why not just move on Listen dude, why do you ask me a question? I open up that can of worms obviously he's got a hundred percent he started it. Yeah, start Yeah, finish what you start exactly right. I have the last game you hundred percented Jeff Just a work in man don't buy the Jeff. No, no, no, no, he's got to finish what he started up curious NBA live O7 I just oh seven huh. Yeah, to me a lot wow three years

I did it. Oh Seth Four years ago probably Probably came out in 2006, right? Yeah, probably fall 2006, but I finished it Oh, hey speaking, which are we doing what are we gonna do for Halo 2 shutting down? We're gonna let's have a game Let's hop on with Bums you can play we're playing April 14th You know here's energy thing is we just talked about Starcraft, right? If they don't have land play on these games, they will go away when they eventually shut down the servers that service these things

I think it's a good point. Yeah, and here's here's a game coming out that doesn't have land play and a very popular game That's about to have its server-based Play go away. So what happens? Bunchies solve that problem. They made the server code to myth available to fans. Yeah, I don't think they can do that with Xbox Live though. This is Xbox Live decision. Oh yeah. That might be a little trickier. That is a little trickier. It was a say for PC games, you can probably run private servers and do it like that, but for a decentralized service, Xbox Live on a console, I don't think that's possible. And this is another cultural thing where it'll be a long time from now. And I probably won't give a shit about Starcraft to 15 years from.

Let's hope I don't. But it'll be one of those things where people who have cracked versions of the game will be able to continue to play it. And those of us who buy the game and do it the way we should will be kind of out in the cold. Do you think, do you think we'll see a phase out of Starcraft 1 multiplayer sometimes? Oh, no, no. Not a true one. It's fucking crazy. They still release patches for Starcraft. Yeah. They still perform game updates and well.

What are they patching in this one? They're still doing balance. They're still patching out. We found a 13 year memory leak in a game. Have you ever leave the game on for 13 years on the splash screen? It eventually will crash your PC. Well, you laugh, but Windows, or Microsoft has released a patch for Windows that fixed

like a 13-year-old bug. Really? 13-year-old bug, really? No, it was a 17-year-old bug. The bug predated Windows 95. So what the hell? To apply the patch when I have to upgrade to a Pentium? I'd have to get 512 megs of memory in my computer to do that 512 Jesus. What are you fucking nuclear scientist?

Yeah, I got I got my my computer now. I bought these drives. I have six terabytes of Video storage for the new season See I'm jealous of every season that jumps up. I think last season we had three terabytes now. We get two terabyte drives in Awesome, I'm jealous. I need I need to do that that two terabyte drive-off for two hundred when we bought that like three months ago I've filled twice now Yeah, but you have a external drives you offload to yeah, they're all full I have three full external drives You know with that much video storage. I get the feeling I could just

Leave the Xbox running and just record it and it might make its own episode of Reverse of Blue. Just give it a shot. But your shirt comes dance. Let's go to Vegas. It's a second. I had fun in Vegas when I went. Yeah, you had a good time? Yeah, I went with my wife, so I guess, sorry. She always makes me stay in places that I don't want to stay. Where'd you get to stay?

I would normally stay at the MGM or even like the Monte Carlo, where it's just a bed. You know what I mean? You go there and say, but she always wants to say at the MGM or even like the Monte Carlo where it's just a bed you know what I mean you go there and say but she always wants to say at the Bellagio or in this case the Aria. Well she has a different experience or like a different desire and vacations though right like you wanted to go out and see Vegas and gamble and do that whole thing right and she wants to like hang out in a really nice room and get room service and go to a nice restaurant not be pestered by kids all the time. Exactly right. Yeah, I can understand that. Exactly.

And if we were up to me, I would just sit at a blackjack table, break even by the end of the trip and get free drinks in. So much. How do you balance the two? What's that? How do you balance the two? We balance it by doing what you want to do. Yeah, got it.

That's how it works. That's how I'm very interested in it. Is that how it works? Is that the single guy? I asked that question. You compromise by doing everything you don't want to do. And if you don't balance it that way, after nine or so years you end up getting divorced and you have to start all over again. Right. Yeah.

Not to beat the point into the ground, but the most recent Starcraft patch came out last January. And what did they patch? It had a feature change where you could do in-game speed option menu now has an enable CPU throttling checkbox enabling this option allows Starcraft to consume fewer CPU cycles. That's Activision makes sense? Blizzard. Oh black. Yeah and then three bug fixes. Three bug mixes. Wow. They also lessened the imposed delay in the CPU throttling feature removing an unnecessary delay when processing palette cycling updates and fixing issue with reply feature. If I was Blizzard

I put out a patch for Starcraft again tomorrow that says we just disabled the battle meta counts of the infinity ward executives So upgrade this and they're gone. You'll never see them again man that SEC filing they announced blizzards Blizz numbers to did you see that world of workraft is ninety eight percent of the revenue for blizzard surprise it was from ninety seven percent why is that surprising i'm not surprised i'm surprised they have two percent of other revenue yeah

people people still buying the obeltax this thing is still like forty bucks are they really yet the battle chest at this point i mean where does Wow rank in global economies? I saw a custom. I saw an article on that the other day. It ranked higher than a lot of countries. Actually, maybe crazy like five years from now, we find out that they actually ended up buying a country. And that's Azeroth. They just like geomapted. And it's actually real people walking around with chips in their head that we're controlling. This entire time. They could probably do that at this point

It's like it's like saying the avatar is 100% of James Cameron's income of course it is you know right here Well, I put who knows how what he makes from Titanic still to this day and aliens how much is his next movie to cost could it cost a billion dollars? I mean anything possible with a camera right and I'll you what, he spends a billion dollars on a movie, that movie I make five billion. Yeah. Could you, could you imagine, you know how old people are depressed about Pandora not existing?

Yeah. Could you imagine if they had a Pandora MMO? Oh, wow. You could do it on that. With different classes, they have humans, they have factions, they have pretty much everything you would need for an MMO. Are you looking up what it's up to? Yeah, I was, but too bad the avatar game itself sucked

I mean that leaves you with no leaves you with no hope that they'd be able to pull it off well listen Warcraft's a great game, but it It was definitely inspirational material to spawn world of warcraft those two are not related in any way That's true, you know, just in case anyone's curious, Avatar has now made $2.5 billion. Wow. Yeah, it's fucking nuts. Wow. It's made over $700 million domestically and $1.8 billion for it.

And I bet it was still number two or three in the box office last week, and I didn't even check. I should look. It's a great movie. Yeah, Nico liked it. Oh good. I loved it. Glad to hear that.

Two and a half billion dollars man off a $500 million. I would like to point out that drunk tank picked star trek as the best 2000 last nine good job last week avatar was number four number four. That's made someone seen it 13 million dollars I at this point I would like to see what the percentage of It's box office every week is iMacs and watch that percentage grow that in like you know two months It'll just be an iMac series, but people will still be going to see you know last weekend my uh my mother came to visit in town and I was like oh if you see now a talk she's like no I said oh let's go down the iMacs see we can see it

nope we sold out all weekend really I still couldn't see it I was just about to check to see if it sold out right now I bet it is that's I want to see it again so I want to see it I mean yeah absolutely I've only seen it once and I would love to see it again I haven't seen the 2d version I want to see that I don't I don't want to see you do that love to see it again. I haven't seen the 2d version. I want to see that I don't I don't want to see you. Oh, what would you do that? You'll see it eventually my you see it on TV and stuff I still want to lessen that experience. I as a matter of fact that experience was so like immersive I need to see the second time to see all the stuff I I couldn't take in In three years. I saw twice and it didn't I was looking at entirely different things the second time per

I was just watching stuff on the side of the screens for the hell of it. You think it will release when it does release the home video? Do you think that'll be the first home video to release with a 3d version for your home? No, they've already released DVDs for 3d versions. Yeah, like what? Coraline came out as a 3d version. Well glasses and what not? Yeah, it came with glasses. There was a... And there have been a couple others. There was a program that was broadcast in 3d recently. What was that? They're like during the Super Bowl didn't they have or the Super Bowl last year they had a movie trailer that you could get 3d glasses for? Yeah, but there was one like in the last three or four months as well. It came out. Yeah, I think it was Max headroom So wait a minute. So they get they can book core line on a DVD today And you can watch it on your TV with glasses and it's 3d. I like where this is going. Why are they selling 3D TVs?

I ask myself that all the time. What is a 3D TV do? I have no idea. Because you need glasses to watch a 3D TV. Yeah. Are you do? Yeah. I think I just found a home system. It's a ruse. That's a really, I, yeah, what? I wonder if the 3D TV upscaled non 3D stuff so that you can watch it in 3D? Oh, that's interesting. I have no idea. How would it possibly interpolate a flat image? It just takes the images and it doesn't offset. And then you wear in the polarized glasses. No, no, no, no. No, that's true. You can take a...

You're not going to build in depth into a flat image. If that's a major... Oh, no, you're not. That's right. Yeah, you would have to have the source. Especially in a flat screen, right? You could take it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah, you would have to have the source especially for green. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that's crazy. Yeah, I mean computers can't figure out the cap shot on us account sign up. So look at a picture and figure out what's supposed to be

farther away. I mean maybe one day you go by yeah. Oh, did you hear Roger Ebert's new voice? No, I heard an article. Oh, I heard a story about that on NPR the other day. It was really interesting. How's this new voice? Yeah, so Roger Ebert had some kind of cancer that led to salivary land cancer, which led to most of his job being removed. So Roger Ebert has not spoken I think in a year and a half. It's been a while. It's been years since he's been able to speak at all. So some company in Europe, you'll probably know it. You probably know them personally. They made a in Europe, you'll probably know it. You probably know them personally. They made a voice synthesis based on the catalog of all of his recorded voice stuff previously.

So he talks to this Stephen Hawking voice. That's how he does it now with the Apple talk. Sure, sure. And then he switches over and it's a computerized version of his voice. And if you grew up watching like Cisclin Ebert, it sounds like him, but it doesn't sound like him it's still pretty fucking crazy

made his wife cry as per said why does he need that stuff? I thought he just did the thumbs up and thumbs down thing he's actually a really really brilliant guy it's a Roger ebert's really really interesting dude except he doesn't think that he did a great job he writes a lot of columns that are really he's a pretty smart guy yeah he is very interesting

He focuses on the culture of of movies specifically But he touches on a lot of different things. Yeah, and he doesn't like video games. No, not a big fail But so I mean what would his opinion be on something like aliens versus predator? Which is really you know spawned by a video game right? I mean the cycle of that franchise is Movies to video games and then I bet he gave the movie thumbs down I don't want to go too far in the line here, but I think aliens were just prepared to respond by a comic book wasn't it? Oh, was it I think so right like a dark horse comic Way back in the day. Well, I think it was spawned by a joint and a bag of Cheetos like

What are the awesome predators on the aliens? bag of Cheetos like full of that. What are the awesome predators about the aliens? And out of all the dumb like ideas were so and so flight so and so why is that the one that like everybody latched on to? It's it's that makes sense. It's the aliens versus the predators. It's because they put that fucking alien skull in the predator ship in in predator two and that like planet the seed.

Yeah, that's why we're going to have Star Wars meet CT. Apparently the comic came out first in February 1990, and then in November that year, printed two came out with the scene you just talked about. Okay, oh wow. There you go. I bought that comic. But it sounds stupid when you say it for anything else.

Like it does. If you had a Star Trek vs Star Wars movie, it just sounds dumb. Did you see the Enterprise build the Death Star? Yeah! Like Willow was in the council in episode one, right? So, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so we, so Oh dude, it's terrible. I thought Millie might like it so griffin put it on it's it's fucking terrible. Millie didn't like it It's I don't know how anybody could watch that I don't recall Willow doing well when it came out I saw in the theater. I don't remember if I remember they kept trumping it up as like and this is the new franchise

You know this was gonna be like the Lord of the Rings version of Star Wars essentially before Lord of the Rings was in theaters Yeah, I remember having a lot of hype like that. Here's the interesting conversation. I had with Nico Okay, and I know you can't shut him up right now, but We had a conversation what do you think has been the most remade Movie ever. Oh, I can answer that. Go ahead. It takes a chance on that scare. Okay. Has to be the most remade movie ever King Kong There's been three King Kongs. There's been at least three text transomerskers You can't King of Kong. And there's King Kong, the original King Kongs from the 70s with Jessica Lang.

Jessica Lang. And then there's the Peter Jackson one. I would say this like now if they're going to go back and revisit it, they're going to tell another Superman origin story, which get over that. We are. Yeah. Can you look that up? Let's see what the most remade. How would you look? I don't know how I'd look that way. I do it. Yeah. Can you look that up? Go for a fast and see what the most remade. How would you look? I don't know how I'd look that up It's really what Google what's the most remade movie of all times Jeff with that laptop is so annoying

You're not really I'm really curious. I think it would be a horror film I think they've retold the Batman origin story three times now It was part of the Adam West Batman. Yeah movie and then it was the Tim Burton one and then now the Batman begins I Think you're one of those one of those for sure It's it's What these people are saying is either a Christmas Carol or Scrooge. I don't know if you count that. Oh, yeah It's been remade like 20 times. I feel that they should remake Rocky one Those still the best one of of all of them. There should be like a new Rocky room. I'm sure they will well kind of banked on the ending

You know, they had a really cool ending. Yeah, it's which I don't think you can recapture with a remake. Yeah watch Rocky 5, man. Rocky 5 is great. I loved Rocky 5. Did you see really? Yeah, that was awesome. I stood up in the theater and cheered. Did your wife was so embarrassed. Yeah, but the Guinness Book of Records site Cinderella is the most film story along with Dracula and Zorro. Okay, okay. Dracula is a great one. Yeah, by the way, you never, ever have to tell us that your wife was embarrassed by X. We will just assume that. Okay. We should come up with a hand gesture for you to say this. You don't have to like waste the breath of the thing and my wife was embarrassed.

Yeah, Dracula is like a call man. Christopher Lee made a new Dracula film like every three weeks in the 70s. You looked uncomfortable, so I thought I helped you out there. I was trying out Gus was helping me adjust my audio equipment. Do you guys call it? Do video games ever get remade? Speaking of the mic What video games have been remade Pac-Man? Mario Brothers Pac-Man CE. Yeah, yeah, I mean essentially isn't every video game remade and they just called two Yeah, right now

Like is Super Mario Brothers that much different than the Super Mario Wii that just came out? Yeah, new Super Mario Brothers It's very like throwback to original Super Mario Brothers. Yeah in six weeks. There's gonna be a Pac-Man with jet packs It's gonna be fucking awesome. I hear it's gonna be a little bit sport. It's true. What could not be made better By adding jet packs marathon. Marathon. Marathon Miller. It's true. It would burn a butt. Yeah, and we should be able to get away. Oh, awful.

Hey, miss Miller. That didn't last very long. Man, that picture could be remade a couple times. I'm pretty sure I'd be okay with that man So that really affected you that picture of her. I just showed it to you. I was I'd seen it a few times Yeah, at that point. Oh something else I forgot to mention earlier sad news gene porter the man. Yep from Mrs. Barbeque died on Sunday That is sad. It is sad. It's very sad and he was a very

That is sad. It is sad. It's very sad and he was a very sadistic person but I loved him for it. I tried to take jack up there a couple times like when we went up there at Chips. I think it took Jack there like two or three times and every time we went he was never there. Yeah, he'll never have the chance to experience that now. That dude had so much personality. He was. He was. He was the man. The man. Yeah. He was the guy who made the hottest hot sauce. Yeah, we talked about it on the truck tank made the hottest hot sauce yeah yeah we talked about it

on the drunk type before yeah the hot sauce looks like a black hole the hot sauce like absorbed light and light could not escape it can I try it before I leave it's a saddle yeah you can try it when you get back home yeah yeah yeah go to Dixie's barbecue in Seattle I don't it's an Kirkland I think I don't know Northropway that's the same thing I don't know it's the same thing. I don't know that they'll continue to have the man because the other times I've been there when he wasn't there. There was no I've been there once when he wasn't there and there was like another old white guy who was Oh really? carrying the man around. Yeah, okay. Still not the same expression. Yeah, watching him make fun of Matt. It's like I like how he Assigns everyone a nickname and then he'll call you that the whole time. Like no matter how embarrassing it is for you

or what you think about it. I was glad he called me Curly. He could've got a much more mean route. He was good times. This stuff is so friggin hot, it almost put gusts in the hospital. And he literally tried just a drop from a toothpick not even a drop I would call it like a droplet you know it's like you could barely see this

little particle of death one of the only times in my life I've ever seen Jason mad like Jason such a laid-back will I see but after he tried the man he was mad the entire day and he did something so stupid he had that he had the man on top of his sandwich. He's like, cause his hot. I'll just mix it in throughout my whole sandwich to dilute it. Yeah. No. It made me sick. You're on cue, can't dilute that. I could feel it burning through my intestines. I'm dying to try this. Oh, dude. It's something you got to do once in your life. Yeah. And maybe not again. I don't know.

I think I, I don't think your body will let you do it a second time. Yeah. I think I've done it twice. And that's it. I believe you only get that over on your body once. Your body has muscle memory And it's like fuck is it like jalapenos where it hurts on the way in and no, it's like the scene of alien where they cut The blood drips down to eight layers That's that's a very good description. I mean we laugh, but that's probably as close as you can get to describing it I'm dying to try it.

You will be! That's the point! You are going to die! It's just so like absorbs light. It's evil! It burns the light. Oh shit, jinx dude. There's no other way to describe it. It is absolute evil in a tiny saucepan that's like 50 years old. Yep. It tastes like what would you describe the taste as? You can have taste it!

Yeah, Satan. It's burning! It like peels off your your taste buds So if you guys go to packs when most people go to see that I guess would be for packs prime Is that what's called? Yeah, not packs west, but packs prime if you just remember Dixie's barbecue and make a trip out there It's definitely worth it Kirkland call call ahead. They'll make sure they're serving the man that day. Yeah, you don't want to You don't want to this out. Although I've called ahead and they fly. I tell you that place. That's one of those places. It's like the soup nachi. Yeah, yeah. Where they, they, they pride themselves on terrible service. Also, yeah, also,

you better know what the fuck you want when you step up to the counter because they are not going to put up with your nonsense. Not why would they? They have, they have prescriptions called. Yeah, I would sat there waiting to pay for my food, waiting for 15 minutes for the woman to finish trying to refill her prescriptions over the phone Yeah, there's like there's a lot meanwhile. There was a line out the door and it's raining and the people standing up in the rain waiting I'm like, can I please pay for my food? And don't even think about getting annoyed that lady could shut you up in one look Nobody said or even the people the rain was like school

We live in Seattle we get we get used to the rain. So wait, rude and incompetent. Sounds like you're no, there's nothing in common. No, they definitely know what they're doing and they do it well. Oh, man. Yes, that's that's that he's gone. That is said. So I had a very strange thing happen. First time for me. I had a look at the murderous amila picture. No, no, no, I didn't move for that. The first time I had a conversation on Twitter. I actually had a back and forth conversation with someone. Oh, yeah, who? Which might be the first time that's ever happened on Twitter, period. I was talking with the vowel who's on major analysis podcast. Yeah. And Stephen Toulouse, who's the vowel is E, right? Yeah, E. And one of the Stephen Toulouse who's

he's going to be a packs prime Prime by the way. He does, if you're going to Pax Prime, he does a hilarious panel on like the book of Xbox, like treating Xbox terms of use as though they were with the word of God, very funny. And I know he's going to add to that. So it's almost like a routine like material. Nice. You said Pax Prime, not Paxi's. Sorry. Pax, he'll be a Paxi's. Okay. I think he'll be a Paxi's doing it. That's Steven to lose. Is that also going to be during our panel? No major Nelson's is during our panel Okay, so you should definitely come to our panel not to major. Yeah, yeah I would you like to kiss everybody's ass major Nelson. Fuck that

But we have we have tons of cool stuff to show at our panel people should come by we I think we we plugged it last week and Yeah, yeah, we we definitely want people to come out. I'm actually worried we're not going to have enough time to answer questions because we might have too much stuff to show. I think that might be a good thing. You should, yeah, I like the questions. We're going to have to have some questions, but I prefer to leave it a mystery. Yeah, just come check it out. I'm very excited about the stuff we're showing off. But this conversation actually plays back to what we were talking about earlier,

where we were talking about Sysklin Ebert, and the neighbor common thing, will video games ever have a Sysklin Ebert level of reviewer, where they're synonymous with good reviews, and a trustworthy source for the general public, like a broad thumbs up or thumbs down. Okay. And once again, tie everything together, I said, don't you think gave him a tie over that? And they said, no, they're not, they're more for the hardcore guys, but what's there in common? And can that come, Jeff? Do you think we could have a Siskling in the Ebert for video games? I would say that I don't understand the

Determination that they're just for hardcore gamers. I agree with that. I think Gabe and Tyco speak to like a core game audience. I think the question is for a more diverse public, like a place your mom could go to and read a video game review, or a place your wife could read a video game review from. Or the guy who played Madden and Call of Duty all day and don't get on the internet and talk about video games. Right.

Which is basically 90% of the people who play video games honestly, right? Yeah, that's overwhelming majority. Yeah, I don't know. Where would they find that person if they weren't on the internet? Can you have it, Tom? Near, that's over a majority Yeah, I don't know where would they find that person if they were on the internet. Can you have it? Don't you times? Can you can you review those people on reading the new times? Like Ebert has to go and watch a movie that's two hours done and he can review it He can form an opinion of it. You can't form an opinion of a video game two hours

Can you you have to play a video game for five or six hours or longer and then like a game like fallout? Yeah, like and then games that are complex like you know heavy rain or fallout where you have like these branching story lines it can go in a million different ways or even just to complete the plot if that's an important part of the game you could spend 10 hours 10 hours just to finish the main plot right and that's assuming you're actually good at the video game right right you're terrible you could spend days you could you could what we call neco it exactly you can be just trying to be playing mass effect god that game that's interesting are you get it let me ask you

this yeah you were super going to hold about it you got about halfway through you were still was on your third playthrough you were still super going to hold about it it's great then you came in the other day and you were just super defeated and sad I'll go away from it for while are you gonna play mass effect to right after one no no that's a show I'm gonna go to where my droughts right now I think a massive act to it's so fucking good yeah are after one. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, here's the thing. Like, I have, so on my PSP, I have this amazing game that's a collection of Atari games, of old, you know, Atari arcade games. And if you have to get, if you get all of the achievements, it unlocks 52 Atari VCS games. And those achievements are hard, man. They're a pain in the ass.

So you're asking, like, is there an actual reward for getting achievements? Yeah. I'd like avatar clothes and that kind of stuff. And just the... Not for Mass Effect, though. Not for finishing. Not for Mass Effect. It's just to finish it out and say I completed

100% of the game, which I would argue, meeting you'll say I just finished the game and just saying that is pretty much the same as getting 52 Atari games. Because I would play probably 10 of those for about a minute each and then be done with it. Like, what's the big one you're trying to get from this Atari unlock adventure? You could probably get you could probably get adventure on the web in about six seconds if you wanted to he has a poet I got an adventure the one with the dragon. It looks like a duck right?

It is the duck the duck dragon and you're a. Also the very first Easter egg I ever saw in my life. What was it? You would go, you know, use that bridge, and you would cross over on the bridge. There's a part in that maze where you can't see where you're going. Like it's like you have to move to see where you are. OK, a lantern. So it just shows.

A lantern, yeah. Like haunted house. And you'd use the bridge across over, and you'd pick up a little pixel, dot a glowing pixel. And then you would take that, and you do use the bridge across over and you pick up a little pixel dot a glowing pixel And then you would take that and you could walk through that barrier wall and you could see the names of developers there Oh, that's cool very cool. It's probably one dude. Well, yeah, the developers is one one person Progaine and like a TRS 80 or something like that Hey, Bernie you tell me you saw shutter island the other day. I saw shutter island the other day. Should I see that movie?

No, I shouldn't right no take your I've seen she likes Leonardo caprio. That's why I went see it I was out I don't know if I've cares I have got not a going to see Twilight but I got to go see Leonardo caprio movie still I actually don't have that much of a problem with like my wife wanted to go see hot guys or chick flicks It's it's almost like the other way like last night I wanted to watch this old Antonio and he filmed called Laventura. You want to watch hot guy flex? Where you going with this? No, no, no, it's just an Italian film. I didn't want to watch it because she'd have to read. Like she was turned off by subtitles. She only wants to watch movies with like

dick and fart jokes. Really? Yeah, she just wants to watch dumb like like the equivalent of like whatever this year's American pie is. That's all she wants to watch. Sex drive. Sex drive. Yeah. Did she like that? I think she liked it okay. Did she like Avatar? I think she liked it. Okay. Did you like Avatar? Yeah, she loved Avatar for sure She's gonna resent you're saying this. I just want to let you know that she won't read to listen to this. I'll tell her I have no I'm gonna material for next week. I dare you to listen to a Griffin. Come on bring it I'm strong. Yeah, wow come by the way. I'm working late to that Well, what's coming out anything new coming out the Oscars are this week are

they are anybody care about that they're on Sunday oh shit is that true I didn't realize that so many on Twitter said they were preparing for their Oscar party this Sunday so that's my information didn't the kids movie come out recently they look really good maybe I'm on about that oh the flying dragon thing is that how to teach your dragon fly yeah that's not at all what it's Jesus it's dream work so you, who knows what it will be? Yeah. Somebody also pointed out that the film opening the Tribeca film festival this year? Track four. Is that true? That's what I once again, Twitter.

I get all my hard-hitting news from Twitter. Damn you, Twitter. Okay, so what was the conclusion of your conversation with Steven Tullabies? Did it is there gonna be a Let's just go in the book for gaming. No, we're just gonna open and think we're we were talking about that stuff And you know, maybe wonder can you do that like can you review games? Is it even possible? It doesn't interact of medium is a review worth anything well game spot sure tries the hell out of it I mean it just seems like we try to fit it into that model, right? And is a demo probably the replacement for the review for this kind of media? Interesting. So like outsource it to the the consumer to determine

Right, but I mean like what the value of I actually made the point is the Xbox live unique user count Is that the new thumbs up or thumbs down? Like this is number two after a month. This is a good game Yeah, it's a good poll good but it's how I choose stuff But it demo put general public doesn't this might not necessarily understand what that means or how that works I've read a demo can also be like a trailer, right? I mean it only shows the good parts and then Five minutes later you actually when you actually do go and see the movie it's one big disappointment Well normally though a demo is like a level or like a chunk of the game

That's cut out you know specifically for demo purposes. I think it's rare that some will put extra polish into that area and then neglect the rest of it because that would just be Like more work if that makes sense Hmm. I didn't find the first levels in games are a lot better than later levels I concur with Bernie on that. I mean sometimes you can feel the development time running out as you're playing the game They don't necessarily build the game in a linear fast enough. They're not like, oh, we're building the last level a week before we have to ship. No, but when they assemble it, they're like, okay, this is the best level put that first. They're not going to put the shittiest level first, right?

Or they start off young, excited, not tired. You know, that, oh, yeah, let's just put a monster there. Oh, yeah, what do we do with a hole in on a moment, put a crate in front of it. You know, that kind of thing. I'm always very happy when I get to the end of a game. And the end is a different experience than the previous three levels. Like you got a, like, given example. Oh, God.

That's a fact like that. Like, Boralands would be an example of how it didn't do that. It was kind of leading up to that, but it was, it was just kind of ended all of a sudden. Yeah, but it felt like that because the thing at the end wasn't what you thought it was gonna be, it was just like everything else. Yeah.

You know, and you run into that a lot. An example where it was different at the end. You know, I don't know, I'm trying to think of a really good example, but I watched you beat Mass Effect too. BioShock felt different at the end. It seems pretty different than the rest of Mass Effect that you were controlling squads and stuff.

Mass Effect at the end was different than the rest of it, too. Yeah, I mean, I guess, to an extent. But I haven't played. You're just allocating squads more than playing, but you're still, like, the game core game play is still the same, other than, you know, assigning people to certain tasks that you then don't control. Like Mass Effect's a good example, is at the end of the game, I'm hoping I'm not spoiling this five-year-old game.

Whatever it is now. At the end of the game, you're like outside on the citadel in space, fighting across a crumbling structure, which is a little bit different than invading the same base over and over again. What Mass Effect, many times I gain the suffers from repetition. Everyone on his base is the same four point Every single one is that true is that the part where you get the jet that not in the case and two at all You know how when you played bio shock and you did that water hacking thing Yeah, oh, this is that version of that like every time it loaded up

You like am I gonna give the one the top left or the one on the top right? That's how massive fact is is that is the base the one with the door in the back or is it the mine shaft doors with the circular Entrance they fix that in Mass Effect to yeah, hopefully so Mass Effect to that's why I'm so much better again. I love Mass Effect. I will play eventually Gavin even asked me yesterday He said I have Fallout 3 here and Mass Effect 2 here. What should I play I thought I'd play Mass Effect Mass Effect 2 because you can be done with it more quickly That's what I said. It'll have like Mass Effect 2 will be over before you know it. Yeah, Mass Effect 2 you can finish you can go

Over and play Fallout then if you want to break and fall out mass effect to DLC will probably be out by then Yeah, I can't wait for the best effect to DLC. I think I had a dream about it the other day. It's coming out End of March is that right is that right? I can't come soon enough the one with like the new vehicle and stuff five new missions This someone was asking me the other day how long you know if it was possible was possible to finish Mass Effect 2 and I said, I've played every goddamn mission in that game twice now. Have you played, oh yeah, I guess you did. Gus did make a comment a few weeks ago about Mass Effect the series in that it reminded him of that game's star control that we played. Actually, it's one of the few times in my life I've ever liked something in my past that I played years ago brought to somebody to hear I think you'll like this and showed it to Gus and Gus liked it as much as I did. Oh yeah, I can't even fucking

cry. I still play it. Star control too. And that game is Star Control too. Yeah, it is. It's totally Star Control too. Mass Effect is an updated version of Star Control. Mm-hmm. And I haven't heard anyone say that before you said it and you are absolutely right. Not that it matters. I don't think anyone really that before you said it and you are absolutely right. Not that it matters. I don't think anyone really remembers Star Control too at this point. They should. Oh, somebody did it at Edmonton apparently. I think the game is more influential than people realize too, because the storyline stuff

that's in there is in everything. The ancient race that they call the precursors, which went away for some reason and they had super advanced technology that everyone in the current time is using But they don't quite understand mother fuckers cannot hold on to their superior technology What is that? No, it comes back to bite you dude. Yeah, it's like a mess effect. Yeah, they're just waiting just beyond this in the periphery of your vision Then when you let your guard down they pounce. That's right. It's the hubris of man We think we build these fortresses that you're You're standing on the shoulder of giants mentioned they collapse on you the giant is gonna fucking take a break

But what happens to you you can't stand up there. It's true So did you hear that this chilly earthquake? Change the rotation of the earth. Yes. I was hoping we'd like this. I'm glad you brought it up. It's crazy It it did like made days shorter. Yeah, yeah, it's shortened days by 1.26 microseconds. It changed the gravitational center of the earth and the analogy that I read was that it's like a figure skater, which should be an olive export. When they are doing spins and they draw their arms in, how it makes them spin faster, it's like that but on an enormous scale and small chain

It yeah, it shifted the axis and then kind of compacted thing. Hey, what's up with all the fucking earthquakes? What's up with all the earthquakes dude? Yes, what is it up like that was the third one nobody even talks about the one over in Central America that happened after the Haiti one Wasn't it one in Japan to just recently? Yeah, it's like off the coast of Okinawa. I think where's that? It's like a southern island in Japan. It's a right That's where Mr. Miyagi's from that. Yeah, Okinawa big big US military base there. That's right They said that I guess like this Chile Chilean earthquake made days 1.26 Microsecond shorter, but the one in 2004 that generate all the tsunamis in the Indian Ocean made the days 6.8 microsecond shorter,, because even more of a dramatic change.

This all sounds like global warming. I don't really think it's real. I hope we get bloom box before the earth is destroyed. No, have we talked about it on the podcast yet? No, but listen, listen, I'm not a conspiracy crazy person. I know. Outside of the spot, you've been talking to your buddy Scott too much. I mean, this 2012 thing is coming and one of the things that people are saying is that we're going to come across, we're going to cross the galactic plane. Wait, wait, wait, what 2012 thing? Sir, an interrupt. We can't wait to talk. This would take too long.

It would take too long. Just roll with us. The end of the world. The alliance predict at the end of the world of 2012. Okay. It's like, you saw the terminator? It's like terminator's win. It's like terminator's win. But it makes you wonder if there's not something to this with all this weird ass shit that's

going on. Hey Matt, we're talking about end of the world stuff in earthquakes. Link, all these strong earthquakes. Did you tell my embarrassing earthquake story? No, what's your embarrassing earthquakes? Oh, from LA. From LA. Yeah.

I lived in LA for a while and we know we would get earthquakes periodically. But like the first time I ever experienced one, we had a couple of friends over, and it was a couple. I was like me and my wife and this couple of friends of ours. You had like a couple of things. Yeah, it was a couple of things. Well, it got really intimate during the earthquake

because we were showing them around our apartment stuff. And for some reason, just at that moment, me and the guy Had ended up in the bedroom By ourselves and Anna and the girl were in the front room looking at something else And I was like saying yeah, see this is over here blah blah blah whatever and this earthquake starts and like our friends Have been there in LA for a long time. So it's like yeah earthquake. Whatever no big deal But I'm like, you know, I'm shaking both my earthquake. Oh, earthquake, and because I'm nervous, you know,

and so like, I grabbed him, and I'm like holding him. Because that's your first instinct. And the earthquake is to grab what it was supposed to shoot. And for me, it was a dude. Where did you grab him? I'm like, oh, I'm not grabbing him. He's like, why are you grabbing me in the bedroom? And then my wife and Janine come back from the front room and they

see us and we're like embracing in the bedroom and it's like the whole ladies move in like you know one of those beds that you put the quarters in. So we had our own like motel six moment there and got caught by the wives. Dude Griffin and I got to figure out a way to make a earthquake machine in the house. And we were covered in a lube but that was still a coincidory. Also I read that if there's an earthquake machine in the house. And we were covered in a lube, but that was still a coincidence. A science story. Also, I read that if there's an earthquake, you should immediately take your shirt off.

It's just safety. Yeah, it's OK. You don't let a good buttons caught in anything. You want to hide under your Freddie Mercury poster? I forgot to mention we had been playing couples' twister right before that. So we were all limbered up. But actually, Matt, the reason why I wanted you to come in here

is that the earthquake then spawned a tsunami and it was headed towards Hawaii. And I actually have a crazy story where Matt and I took a vacation together with our wives. This is not going to end up the way history did. But we did do a lot of hugging on that trip. Well, there was a point where we were out on these cliffs and we were going to walk through like this natural bath. Queens' bath. Queens' bath. Queens's bath is the island of Kauai. It's like this natural pool that's out there

But you have to walk across these lava cliffs to get to it We were going out there and we were just watching the waves and I saw this wave out there It was about a mile out and I thought that is a really big wave and we're like 40 feet above the sea level on these cliffs Mm-hmm, and I just saw this thing coming and We were on different there's like different theories of where we were I just I mean just have to picture that because it's like just saying 40 feet above the sea level on the cliffs I mean it was you're on a cliff literally on a cliff and you go to the edge you look 40 feet down There's the water that's a normal level of where the water should be and so I saw that I pointed out to Matt and he's like Yeah, that was a really big wave and so I started like pulling getting our guys to like come up the cliff

And there was this couple out there taking a picture of the edge of the cliff and we're trying to get their attention Man this wave hit I've never seen anything like it before it was just a rogue wave that came in and it washed Everybody up against the cliff face 40 feet up it was everybody up against cliff face And then started to wash people back out towards the cliff to pull them off and then one guy got completely just his back scraped up Yeah, they're lava rocks. They're probably all sharp, right? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I saw a scar in my leg from when I jumped down to help him in the girl And then didn't we read after that that like a few weeks before three people had died in the bath? Yeah, wow, you know great How do we know? So the point of story is big waves already coming Hawaii, so

Well, I read a story a couple weeks ago that said I guess scientists have finally confirmed the existence of rogue waves out in the middle of the ocean Oh, yeah, we're like their rogue waves can exist that are literally a hundred feet tall you betcha Like out in the middle of nowhere and they like they're proposing or they're theorizing that this is why a lot of ships have disappeared over time and you never hear anything about this. It's just all of a sudden a rogue wave will hit them and they're underwater. They finally caught one on satellite right? Right. The column set. I thought they find the way to confirm it. I would say ours was that big but it was like these waves coming in and you just see this huge mound out there and you're like that was

that and then it just keeps getting bigger and then of course as it gets close to the land, then it gets enormous. Yeah, because the one that is good. But imagine standing up on a cliff like you are anywhere else watching the ocean, and then suddenly your chest deep in water. It was bizarre. It was bizarre. Did it, so like when you said it was a big mound,

like before the wave crested, did it just look like the Cloverfield monster coming out of the water? Well, by the time it started to get really close to us we were in full scramble mode to get up to get up higher and higher to get away from how long did it take to get up to go that mile. You know who knows if it was actually a mile because we're looking at the horizon motion and it probably took about I think 40 seconds total you know for it to come in. I mean for she like wow that's big and then you kind of like hey Maybe she can't get a clip and then he's like getting closer like fuck you know They're one that would be an awesome Olympic event

Wave riding tsunami surf. Yep. Yeah, but that dude. Yeah, that was right That dude was an asshole and got his immediate comeuppance I hope he's listening right now. I think he broke his camera, too. No, no, that was me. Oh, that's right I took a video I have a video right before the wave came in, and I can see how high it was. And it was the last video I took with that camera. So you got your come-up hints for being good Samaritan? Yeah, exactly.

Oh, why you still have that video? Yeah. I've never seen that. Yeah. You too, man. It's just me panning around. So you can see the distance of which, the height at which this happens.

That's cool. That's pretty cool. And you're be like, that's not 40 feet. So I'm sure the first thing you're going to say to me. In our heads, it's 40 feet. Dude, you had to be there. Yeah. Getting crushed by the enormous wave.

So what else is coming out? So the moral of the story is never go to Hawaii. The moral of the story is never go to Hawaii. They have actually footage now. Have you seen some of the footage from people on the 18th floor of a Chilean skyscraper who have their video cameras out at three in the morning? Uh-uh.

Scary as shit. Live leak is a great site for stuff like that. Live leak.com. Like if you were the kind of person who wanted to see a killer whale beating their trainer to death or something like that, that's probably the site you would get. I the other week there,

I don't think I ever talked about this on the podcast. I saw someone had like footage of the challenger blowing up. I guess he had just gotten a video camera that day and was like testing out his VHS camera, like some old guy living in Florida. I was like, oh look, there's a shuttle off in the distance. Then you see it blow up and you just hear him going, that doesn't look right.

Immediately. Yeah, and like talking to his neighbor, like, what did you see that? Is that normal? Does it do that? Then we think about that video to me, guys. I saw the same one. It was weird to see something you're so familiar

with from such a different perspective. But also, it's like that guy, you know that happened in 86. They're all talking to each other like it's the 50s Yeah, it's real weird. It was the whole thing was seem to bizarre. It's like literally he's out there watching the challenger And then some lady walks down along going to a car she goes hi Bob go into the store see Yeah, and he's like okay Sally I'm watching the shuttle, you know, it's like that and then yeah, then his his neighbors George right? George is that normal George? You see that George they got problems yeah problems there George yeah but it was really yeah I saw that same thing isn't she man he definitely like he must have been retired

like engineer or something because he immediately recognized that that wasn't right yeah they got problems George they got problems there George all right and he do we have anything else to talk about? Should we wrap up? Is there anything else we need to plug? We will be, I'm not sure who's going yet, but we will be at Emerald City Comic Con in Seattle. March 13th, approximately. We haven't worked at all yet, but we will be at Emerald City Comic Con, signing Reconstruction DVDs that we'll be giving away at the Waypoint booth. Right, it's not a full fledged, we'll be at TIPP-Present. We'll have our own booths. So we're going to be co-located at the waypoint booth. Right. It's not a full fledged. We'll be at TIPP. We'll have our own booth. So we're going to be co-located at the waypoint booth.

We'll have a like a slot. Well, actually, they're going to have a time when we're there. OK. And we'll put more information. But I'm pretty sure it's on Saturday. I think that we're still trying to work it out because it's kind of a last minute thing. And then if you're at the South by Southwest,

Interactive and Film Festival, I've got a panel with some guys from College Schumer, or Bust of Tees, the Despair, and Lady who does the 32nd Bunnies, that'll Interactive in film festival. I've got a panel with some guys from college humor or bus of teas The despair and lady who does the 30-second bunnies that'll be on Sunday. I'm doing that March 14th bunny's ran out of time. Yeah, yeah, they got a they're on the Netflix streaming now All right. Oh, yeah, yeah, they are they along with loose change. Yeah, I saw I saw that my wife was like Oh, you want to watch it? I was like that's I thought we've seen this on the internet. I haven't, didn't that strike you as weird? Yeah, it was real weird.

That loose changes the 9-11 is an inside job documentary. Yeah, they released it for free on Google video like a long time ago and you could watch it. Is it Alex Jones? I don't think it is. If you've ever seen this. It's very Alex Jones-ish. If you see the pictures of the chicken wire frame

that with the fire around it and they have the cinder block on top of it showing how steel doesn't burn or steel doesn't know this was their scientific experiment. The uh... is being a valix Jones he had uh... he was saying about the plane crash in Austin a couple of weeks ago he was saying that uh... the federal government knew about it and that they were fired up the fire department was there before the plane hit and that's why the FBI was also already in town. What?

I know. Wow. Wow. Apparently though the fire department was already there. I found out. Well they were they were close by doing a training. Right. They were across the street doing a training exercise that the David Buster is there.

They were doing the same thing in 9-11. Yeah. They were out in the streets. So maybe the conspiracy is David Buster's. David Buster's terrible place to go. The firefighters are clear of wind. Did you did you know that also? David Busters. David Busters is a terrible place to go. The firefighters are clear of wind. Did you know that also,

that al-Qaeda has claimed responsibility for that plane crash that we always talk about? That is the one that happened the week after 9-11 in Queens. Is the Rockaway island? The Queens, I remember that one. The one that crashed in Queens? Did you remember the responsibility for that? They've claimed responsibility for all along and everyone has just ignored it

What's the deal with that? I don't know. No, but the somebody used call Alex Jones But it's been proven that it wasn't it wasn't terrorist related. It was proven by who? It was proven by the FAA. There you go that it was a it was a cop the copilot fucked up He overcompensated and broke the router that vertical stable I thought it was a jet stream thing where they got in the jet stream of another jet Yeah, they got in the jet stream of another jet. Yeah, they got in the jet stream of another jet. But then the copilot overcompensated,

broke off his vertical stabilizer. And the plane fell apart. Apparently the dude who claimed the responsibility for it was the same guy in the same cell or something that is the underwear bomber guy. And that's why I came back up again. That this guy has always claimed responsibility for that plane. You know what amazed me is, do you guys remember shortly after 9-11

The what was his name Richard something the guy who was Richard read the shoe bomber. Yeah Like how would anyone in their right mind let that guy fly? I mean you saw pictures of him. He looked like crazy Racist are you my wife or something? I go I sit next to crazy people all the fucking time on a Spada's Kevin Smith you're okay okay let's talk about that for a second I know we're going long I know you want to talk can you gonna go conspiracy is anyone believe for a second that Kevin Smith was really thrown off a Southwest airline flight just by

happenstance two weeks before his motion picture goes in the theaters yes and I'll tell you why seems a little convenient it does mean because you cannot find a trailer or advertisement for that movie that mentions Kevin Smith in any way I'm not buying it he's not attached to that film unless Kevin Smith is saying he's making that movie you're not seeing it it's never it hasn't been advertised as a Kevin Smith film in any capacity it's true we're talking about cop out by the way the Tracy Morgan how did that movie do in the theaters by the way is it out? It looks terrible. I think it came out. I think open number two.

Did it it looks like number two Matt made a comment though that he was talking about how if Kevin Smith is the director but not the writer Which if you're gonna hire Kevin Smith to do something? It seems like you would never hire him to direct without writing it like you want him to write your movie if anything Yeah, it opened at number two 18 million dollars on a what would say the budget 30 okay? Kevin Smith's what definitely one of those guys whose movies are better on paper Like you ever read one of his scripts. They're hilarious. Yeah, when they're really hilarious and then the movie like not so much I mean, I don't know. Wow. You have strong opinions

While the hate maybe he's something you don't like What's it here probably the probably the one I worked on didn't get paid for What did you get paid for would you do I just work I did work a few days on that I for mirror max during the The ain't bidding out the angel wings Whatever and they think they ended up actually doing all that practically. Now let's be perfectly clear here you are not paid by the company that you want to know no relationship to Kevin Smith. It was like Kevin Smith or Mortemax. It's like 25 levels down from him. Yeah.

Matt probably worked for some visual effects house that was paid and then didn't feel to the money there. Exactly. there you go. A lot of that happens. Yeah, sure. But I, you know, there's not for a second that I believe that that was not in some way constructed. I like your ideas. I hadn't thought about this before, but I like where this is going. I like this line of thought.

I mean, come on. Right. I would like to subscribe to your pamphlet. Thank you. Thank you very much. I don't know. I feel if it was an attempt at getting publicity for that film, I'd say it failed terribly. Well, I would argue that as well, possibly.

I mean, it could be an incident. It could be coincident that the incident happened as well, but surely he was going to try to turn this something into as big as he possibly could, you know, two weeks before the movie comes out in two weeks. I mean, he was probably flying from a press junket. That's why he was probably on that plane probably right about that we will see taken the oakland l.a. yeah i don't think south of if it was a stunt on the south west was in on it because he fucking lit into them

by maybe made i don't know it's a weird airline did you know that's a great that's a great question a big time writer director opening a movie with Bruce Willis and Tracy Morgan, kind of airline. The movie only had a $30 million budget. There's a fly from Oakland LA. Yeah, Oakland LA, I bet there's a lot of Southwest flights.

It's probably like how long could that flight even be? It's like hours and a half. I think so. Yeah. It's like an hour and a half. More or less. I'm gonna have more less you just have to we have a critical eye Can't accept everything at the value. Okay, let's cut the short We're already we're already let's cut let's cut this north already record this podcast already run in the lights And I gotta get the sound time

Well, thanks for thanks for listening. Thanks for being here Bernie. Hey, I was gonna see you again, and you two Nico Hey, we could we could not shut you up. Hey! And see you again. And you too Nico. Hey Nico you were definitely not here. We couldn't not shut you up. I know. And hope you never come back on. Alright, well thanks for listening everyone. Tata, bye.

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