Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #52

Episode Date: March 10, 2010

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We'll have to you said it again. Barry a retractions song in next week's podcast I know that will someone will send us a retractraction song this week and in about five months we'll play it. There you go. As always, if you have a song you'd like to send us, you mail it to podcastairsteeth.com. But please wait five months. By the time you're very. You have to watch what you say in this podcast and other we can be edited.

It's true. Like I went on about this vacuum cleaner man that taken suck, but the guy who sold to me was a huge dick. So how you doing? You've been sick for the past couple days, Bernie. I went on about this vacuum cleaner man that they can suck but the guy who sold to me was a huge dick So how you doing you're you've been sick for the past couple days Bernie? No, I'm fine. I'm fine. You're the one who is sick I have allergies right after we What kind of what are ass allergies? No, no, I didn't have that shit I didn't have a little way. I didn't know that to me. He had after we Posted the podcast last week. I went out to dinner, then I woke up Thursday

morning, incredibly sick, and I think I didn't get out of bed till Sunday. And I hear Bernie caught a little bit of it, but not quite as bad. I don't know, I was pretty bad, but I didn't have the stuff that you had. I had no intestinal problems. I had a fever. I had what they call cedar fever. Cedar fever. At some point during the weekend, you told me you wanted to die.

Oh, damn. Me? you told me you wanted to die I am me. Yeah, I thought it was going to die You're also accusing me of trying to kill you on Monday morning. That's true. Bernie was well. I guess I'm right Yeah, listen. I'm a big baby And my wife would be the first one to tell you that she did she told me Sunday Yeah, when I get to take it to the end of the world I think I've written a couple journals like that too. It's like playing left it's like playing left for dead for you. Once those germs pounce on you, it's like I get it off get it off.

Yeah, it's like, you know, I'm a cap. I have 101 degree feet. What a meteor. Please land on the earth and destroy our life as we know it. That'll be great. So give me the journal and shot. Your your your impression of me is very favorable. Yeah, they're kidding. It's usually more panic to than that and angry But we're glad to have you back regardless. Yeah You're on you're on some kind of role is your second podcast in a row. I was gonna say I was here last week He said well coming me back. I was going back to the office. You were out. You were sick. I was going a day You were gone half a week. Yeah got a point. I was gonna two days

Half a week. I mean, I know laying in bed for three days is like Mexican working, but And that's the end of Bernie's political career. I could see that when all over CNN. I met Northern Mexico It's basically the region where guys is from in Mexico not to generalize. Well on that great racist note Can I put out something? something yeah what's up it will though being laid up for the weekend with cedar fever i still couldn't finish fucking mass effect how is that possible how long is that game how close are you i don't know i'm a most 50th run through you okay 50th one so you plan a lot right 10 more to go uh

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Like is it related to hay fever? I, well you can get, it can cause some serious problems like before my wife relates she had allergies, she got pneumonia from it. Oh my Jesus, what is with the sick podcast? Yeah, I don't know, those two years ago. What nerds are sickly? In her pneumonia, you got to from it. Oh my Jesus. What is with the sick podcast? Yeah, I don't know those two years ago What nerds are sickly in her pneumonia got allergies that he Have you from allergies? Have you seen a guy who's been posting videos online of wraps that he makes from tuberculosis quarantine. Yes, that's awesome. What no, yeah, they're awesome except for the dude

Everyone's gonna glazing over the fact that the dude is in tuberculosis quarantine And that's I guess we're supposed to accept that that's really what is he coming to us from 1950? No, I mean this is the new thing now that all these germs that we thought we had eradicated are now coming back Like I know there was that dude who had like that super rare contagious tuberculosis like last year and then got on a plane Remember that and the CDC had to like track him down and track everyone down on the plane and then all their families Yeah, they publicly kind of shame that guy, too Yeah, they fucking threw him under the bus. They really did huh? Yeah, but they used to have tuberculosis colonies. Yeah, where you just go live if you had tuberculosis

They still took it pretty seriously when I was in the army I had to get tea what they call the TB time test every year All I was in were they like inject a little thing on your Skin and if it bubbles up you've got the burcula. They still do that for like kids. Yeah, I think they do it for little kids And then they do it for soldiers like every 12 months. Hmm. It sounds terrifying. It's not bad I remember at the TB test. It's like it's like a little thumbtack, right? Yes, and they like yeah, it's like nothing to it. Yeah It's like they tell you it's no big deal one hurt unless you're on if your arm falls off

Then we'll know This one hurt unless it does But if you get a little bump on your arm where we did that shot we're gonna take you away from your family You're gonna move to an exciting new colony So I don't get why this guy like this guy the wraps are very very funny And if you haven't seen them will post a link to it. Yeah, absolutely. I haven't seen them But I don't know what the prognosis for this dude is. I mean, he's in this quarantine.

I don't know if they think he's just going to get over tuberculosis or they're just running the super antibiotics that they have that they don't give to anybody until it's like some super bug. Yeah, so I don't understand tuberculosis. Is it something that you can overcome naturally or do you need tons of drugs to be able to overcome it, you know? I don't believe so. I don't think it's something you can overcome. It's just a big, long, chronic, long condition that eventually it's what you die from.

tuberculosis, that's what they used to call that consumption, like in the 17th and 19th century, right? Is that what it was? That's your history had on today. Just making sure I don't know. Maybe this guy is on his way out and he wants to get as much rapping done before he goes as pop. Maybe he gets enough views on YouTube, he'll live, but give him the good end of antibiotics. Like if he becomes a partner.

We'll see. It's like, there's this rapper that I listened to, named GM Grim, who got, he got convicted and of some sort of charges, three strikes, you know, kind of thing. And he got, he got us into life in prison So the day before we went in prison like the 25 hour to see when in prison He made as many songs as he could in this studio as possible That's awesome and put out his last album of a final day of freedom That was like hustle and flow, right?

Kind of, yeah Yeah And then the dude started studying a lot when he was in jail and got himself out of jail He only served three years to start filing in jail and got himself out of jail. He only served three years. It's hard to file in motions. Eventually he got himself free. That's like Shawshank redemption. It's yeah, you write enough letters, so like fuck this guy.

Somebody can read. You were telling me the cancellation? Were you telling me the other day that everyone's in jail because of Nancy Reagan? What was the story of that? I was watching that Morgan Spurlock show 30 days, and he had some, he's had an interesting figure that now in American prisons more than 50% of men incarcerated are incarcerated for drug-related crimes, and that since Nancy Reagan, the amount of people incarcerated for a drug-related convictions has increased 12fold.

And the Nancy Reagan connection is that she launched the Just They Know campaign. No, she just bought a shitload of drugs. Since she ran out of everybody's house. She was a pusher. She's a big narc. She dead. Nancy Reagan. No, thanks. I think she's still alive.

Man, that's incredible. Really? She's still alive? Yeah, I'm pretty sure she is. Did you see the funny, did you see the funny in your dive it with all the presidents, the old SNL presidents? No. It's it's it's a it's some political No, add or whatever like that, but it's got Dana Carvey will Ferrell actually Jim Carrey is Ronald Reagan And he does an awesome Ronald Reagan and who else Dan Acroix heavy chase Fred Armiston You have to the point

It's funny. We were talking about Reagan. I'm with Jim Carrey's Reagan was awesome. Jim Carrey's pretty funny guy. Yeah, it's good to see him doing like that sort of character comedy isn't that an awhile. Yeah, Dan Acroid does Carter, right? Yes. It's interesting. Because I think Jimmy Carter's been on like this longstanding, Jimmy Carter impression from like the last 10 years himself. He goes from like winning Nobel prizes to everybody hating him for being an anti-Semite. Right? He goes back and forth between this and also insulting current president. If people hate him for being an anti-Semite, I must have missed that. Am I getting that right? Or is he too Semitic? He's not one of the Semitic polar extremes.

Okay. He's still I think he I think he was making pro-Palestinian statements which then were construed and I want to say construed or turned back such a volatile issue but you know yeah he was he people attacking him for being anti-Semitic it's a delicate situation yeah how do you like in Final Fantasy 13 Jeff hey dude I'm loving it wow I know what a job good lord I am I'm six hours into the game so far and you would think being six hours in I'd have a pretty good handle So are the tutorials over no six hours and I'm still doing tutorials So how is that first cut scene?

That's funny. You say that every time I walk back here to try to look at some of the gameplay every time I walk in There's a cut scene on and just like I swear I was just playing the game right before you walked in. I walked in like 10 times yesterday, and 9 out of the 10 times there was cutscenes on. Yeah, it was pretty funny. You know, we don't do reviews of games really. I mean, we just kind of play them in a slight opinion. We don't do like in-depth reviews or try to put ourselves out there as journalists are coming in. That's a good idea because we're clearly biased. Yeah. I think we just review people who play the games in like them. Like people who play play Final Fantasy 13 or the Final Fantasy series They're fucking crazy people

You have to I mean you have to have an interest in two things idle animations yet to really like those And menus that's pretty much it Item management like inventory you know they like manage a warehouse final time. She's the game for you So so yeah You know, they like manage a warehouse final fantasy is the game for you. So so you Don't we got a better as the guy who's played mass effect like 45 times James all item management Jeff made some comments about People my other addiction people who like final fantasy in the latest I will video and some people in YouTube comments call it a bag will never get laid

Yeah, because he didn't like final fantasy or he didn't like he made 200 people who like Final Fantasy games and It good naturedly. I mean, I'm a person that likes Final Fantasy games. I'm playing it right now. I'm six hours in Let me tell you some kids Fags get laid a lot more than you do They don't have problems with that. They got no issues on that front absolutely and also they probably don't like Final Fantasy It's probably too gay for them But uh, so you're six hours in still have tutorials, but you're liking it? I am liking it. Yeah. What's the last Final Fantasy game you played?

Uh, last game I played was 10-2. 10-2? Oh, which I did not like. I didn't play that. But I liked 10. 10-2. Did you say Final Fantasy 10-2? Yeah. Like first blood part three. Yeah, there was Final Fantasy 10-2. It was like that. It was not even close to me like first blood part three. First blood is the name of the movie. I mean, I mean, ridiculous that final fantasy eight is out. It's like this is the eighth final time we're going to do this. And they don't relate to each other, right? No, no, it's funny. Jack was watching me play yesterday and he goes, and how are these guys related to the people in 10? And I was like, had to explain to them that they never are related

It's always similar themes very similar costume design Identical sciences. Yeah, yeah same attack same magic just different worlds different people new graphics Shred new graphics same shallow. I'm a slow-deer hair. Are you having fun with the game though? Yeah, it's great It's a really good game. I think everyone keeps asking because no one can believe game spot spot gave it a nine and I'd say that's pretty accurate. Really? Yeah. Yeah. They give a nine for the tutorial phase. Yeah they just still it. They're thing is they say the thing that I read I think I read this on joystick was that if you can if you can suffer through the first 15 and a half hours the game gets really good. If you can suffer through the first 15 and a half hour. But I wouldn't call it suffering. I mean I'm six hours in and I don't feel like I've suffered. They

called it they're they are the game journalists it's true they review and they called it suffering it's a fun game man i don't mean can you imagine do they get a sign games they must be able to pick them right i would hope so yeah i don't affect the overall review that's a good question i don't know i know publishers like picking certain guys like certain reviewers will give them scores you know if they like like an RPG type games, like you want to make sure this guy gets your game and not this guy. I know that firsthand. Well, how hard is it, do you think to have journalists to integrity in the current environment where we are in history of video games? I think it's going to be the next one possible. Yeah, it's almost like the early days of radio of like Paila and everything. There's almost no morals when it comes to that stuff, right? I agree and it's just like hey, you know

Everything's nine up between a nine and it's end basically if the game cost over 20 million dollars to make and And then she's massive ad campaigns that are on the sites that are reviewing the games Mm-hmm. You know the number one source of their the ad campaigns are feeding the reviewers you You pretty much describe why achievement hunter will never do reviews. Well, I mean, I'm we're openly biased. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's it's a lot easier to be biased than it is to have to worry about. Oh, I don't want to piss anybody off or say anything that shows that I like something. Speaking of, uh, let's not point to anything out though, before we go too far away from

that. So I'm pointing out that in the overall organization here, that Jack would be the content maker for Achievement Hunter, and I would be the executive manager of Achievement Hunter, business wise, and business perspective. We're more than willing to do reviews. We can cash in on that pay-all thing. Bring it on. You know what I mean?

We can be openly purchased, basically. You know I can't wait for. What's that? Final Fantasy 14. Final Fantasy 3, too. Aren't they launching like a beta for that or something? Basically, you know I can't wait for what's that final fantasy 14 Final fantasy 3 2 aren't they launching like a beta for that or something? Are they yeah? Like I thought the PS3 version just for the PlayStation There's a beta code for final fantasy 14. Yeah, I'll say if you're if you're a a developer or a publisher and you hated

Gerstmann's Canaan Lynch review you love ours So just throwing that out there. Game of the Year. Yeah. Every year. Every year. Every, every sight skin. Game of the Year. You know, Final Fantasy, you know, and I'm clearly biased because I've never played Final Fist completely talking on my ass. I'm doing that thing where I'm sniping at something that I have no appreciation for. Which is, you belong on YouTube. Right, exactly. No one's gonna get laid. But I

would stray from being a PC gamer to being an Xbox gamer and now like a pseudo, still pseudo PC gamer kind of, which is gonna actually go way up because now that's steamed coming to Mac, I guess we'll talk about that in a second. So I really don't have anything. I have nothing to say. I missed the whole like Sony PlayStation generation. I just missed that completely because I was a PC gamer at that time. And that's when Final Fantasy really hit Yeah, the guy who plays the guy who plays the guy who Vic in red versus blue is based on a guy actually named Vic He was my roommate for a short time and he made me play Final Fantasy 7 like and just wouldn't stop talking about it. And so I think I played like four hours of it and just kind of

stop talking about it. And so I think I played like four hours of it and just kind of gave up on it. Well, you only went through 20% of the tutorials in four hours. Yeah, probably so. I saw the other day that Final Fantasy 1 and 2 are available in the App Store for on the iPhone now. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I might pick those up. Those were like games I was interested in when I was like much younger, like old NES stuff. I can't keep that step straight. Is that actual 1 and 2 or is that American one and two? It's actual one and two. Okay. Okay. Do you remember Dragon Warrior?

Yes. Now I remember getting a free copy of Dragon Warrior with my subscription and Nintendo power back in the day. That's the only RPG I ever really got into. Did you get into it solely because it was free? Probably. Yeah. It gives me that time, you know, I was a kid and the amount of games. I have word completely eliminated by my parents

So I liked it. I remember like you have to get the rainbow drop to make the bridge to get to the final boss Speaking of What is that you It's con go it's the Amy want raindrops. Amy want raindrops. Yeah, that's how they calm Amy down on the fly because she doesn't like to fly She has anxiety Amy of course is the girl who can sign so they give her martinis and they call it the raindrop drink. Yeah, that's how they come Amy down on the fly because she doesn't like to fly She has anxiety Amy, of course is the gorilla who can sign so they give her martinis and they call it the raindrop drink Can we nicknames Jack Amy? Yeah, yeah, thanks Bernie. Yeah, that's a problem. Whatever Amy I will say one thing that kind of sucks about fun fantasy 13 Before we get off this fun fantasy kick is that while I'm playing it for achievement hunter you fuckers are all playing battlefield bad company to gotta love that game and having the best time ever oh

You could play battlefield to at home. I guy played the play final fancy at home. I had to play six hours So I could get to a point where I could film something I was playing catch up last night in the first video cut for that game now, right? Yeah, I do that's good Yeah, I'm growing wise. I'm not playing it not playing it. No, it's co-op and I'm just not a co-op gamer I can't I just wait battle for that yellow people too much is that a so caught what you play on teams and squads and whatnot Oh, we just we're just like deathmatch multiplayer stuff. No, what that plan? Like what is a squad rush squad Rushing my favorite one. Yeah rush conquest squad rush squad death match

And I think that's it. Yeah, I went from level four to level six Like an hour last night pretty happy about that. That's pretty impressive me and Pike 419 and government cheese were We're on in the base. What do you play you play engineer? Yeah, I play engineer. What do you play in these days, Jack? Well, I've got my medic maxed out So I've been playing a lot more engineer But uh when it comes though if I really want to do some damage I jump back is my medic. Yeah, I'm met x pretty awesome I can I think after I get my engineer up a damage, I jump back as my medic. Yeah, a medic's pretty awesome in that game. I think after I get my engineer up a little more, I'm gonna switch over to a salt.

Like, I last night I unlocked the rocket launcher that you can, the heat rocket launcher. It doesn't work with the tracer darts, you can kind of move it after you fire it. Oh dude, that thing is awesome. But it's not the one that you can like, it's not the one you were talking about, I don't think. Really? Didn't you say you could, there's like another one that you could like, first person guide? No, no, it's not first person.

Oh, it's like, it's like the, they have like mounted. It's like the turret. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's the one I got. Yeah, that's it's the third rocket launcher. I wouldn't actually, I used it for a while, but then I went back to my previous rocket launcher because I like the advantage of being able

to use tracer darts more. Yeah. Is a, is every other person in the game still playing sniper? Oh, yeah. Good Lord. The amount of the snipers in that game are so stupid, especially when you're playing like Rush.

And it's like your team is all like way back at your starting base sniping guys. It's like we have to destroy the set, the, what are the uplakes? And they're all way, way back or in the helicopter flying around. And they're saying you have to destroy it. Where's sniping? Yeah.

Yeah. Well, go for it buddy. I got your back. It's a fucking pain in the ass. There's way too many snipers in that game. The best part of it is if you get within like 30 feet of a sniper, go for it buddy. I got your back It's a fucking pain in the ass. There's a way too many snipers in that game The best part of it is if you get within like 30 feet of a sniper They have no idea and you can just walk up and like stab I spent some time doing that I never see I've tried to get the dentist achievement for a while last night couldn't oh really

I've been trying to I've been trying to defib somebody to death because Jack did it once Let's screw it up a few times And there's nothing more embarrassing than going in for a stab or a D-Fib and Missing and having the guy turn around and just go boop. Yeah, I feel like an idiot. I did that to a guy last night I I Someone had a motion sensor so I knew there was a guy behind me and I turned and he swung and missed right in front of me And I shot him in the head and killed him nothing better than that Sounds like good time taking a very very good

I saw a great video online where I was monowarfer to a guy He was in the top of some barn and he came across a sniper just crouched laying down looking at a window And he got the guy's camera tag by looking at him brings up his Xbox live dashboard Sends the guy a message say hey turn around Sends it goes back to the main dashboard then drops out of the dashboard dashboard, and when the dashboard drops away, the guy standing up, turns around and shoots him right in the face as soon as he drops his dashboard. How we knew he dropped his dashboard, I don't know. It was a very funny video.

That's awesome. Great payoff. Speaking of Modern Warfare 2, did you see that video that I guess was on Dig the other day about the guy who like recammed the no rushing level and a lot of work or two. I watched that yesterday. He recammed it and cut it like as if it was made for TV or like a movie. When he said he recammed it, did he do it on PC then? Yeah, it's on PC like third person cam. Interesting.

So he, what would that entail like security cam footage and just different edits? Like a free cam. Yeah, like just editing from like free cam mods. Like people running around and like trying to tell the story. He cut it down to just like the dialogue essentially. Right, and then he's like six man to six man. It's like six minutes long. Yeah.

It's an interesting idea. It's cool, it's one of the original genres of machinima is the recam, you know, take what's there and just present it in a different way. Yeah, and then you like cuts it together, he shows like the people fighting, you know, at the house to get the intel and then the Russians, you know, starting their massacre at the airport at the same time that like the people at the house figuring out that they're, that they're, that they were going to go to the airport and attack it and the airport attack happening simultaneously. That's crazy. So like they make it a little more linear time wise. See, that's one of

the really cool things about machinimus that, that's the guy working alone who can do something very cool by himself, you know, and I don't know, I don't know anything by the guy, but if he's not a writer or doesn't have a lot of friends who can do voice acting, here's something that he can make that's cool, that people identify with it. Gus is watching it right now, looks awesome. How many views does it have?

Right now it has 125,000 views. Well, after this podcast, I don't have at least a... 125,100. Yeah, absolutely. And the last 30 comments I'll be drunk tank. That's one of the most obnoxious, I hate linking the stuff now in the link dump 25,100. Yeah, and the last 30 comments all be drunk tank That's one of the most of doctors. I hate linking the stuff now in the link dump because people invariably click on it And then if they have a commenting system on place at that place at that link, they'll just comment drunk tank. I love it

That's funny. I wasn't aware they did that. I feel like we're like releasing the hordes on people Especially I spent they loved especially, do it on YouTube channels and YouTube videos. There's no explanation, any link back or anything like that, so it's just, no, it's just, you know, okay, I think that's gonna be confusing as hell. We're tap-blocking locks of exclamation marks. So, should we say something about Awu? Because we, that was something we did after last week's podcast.

We made a new series called Awu. Yeah, and I have two of them. How is it possible you started after last week's podcast? It's a weekly update and you've already had two. Well, the last one came out late. Yeah, last week was kind of a slow week. So I was like, let's try something new. And so on Thursday we cut together this video. And we're like, hey, will this work and people seem to really like it. So we're like, all right, let's start doing it. What Jack's talking about is achieving a 100 weekly update that comes out every Monday.

And it's basically like a three or four minute live action video where we just detail all the new games DLC demos, that kind of stuff that comes out coming out for the week for the PlayStation and the Xbox. That's cool. You know PlayStation also? Yeah. Yeah. Why not, man? We mentioned it.

Yeah, who's a three this last one? I tried to pick that up last night. I couldn't. Oh, was it sold out? No one had it. That's too bad. GameStop said they might get it today. There was another game that you guys wanted me to pick you up for night. I couldn't oh that was it sold out. No one had it. That's too bad GameStop said they might get it today There was another game that you guys wanted me to pick up for you that they didn't have anywhere There's a tropical tropical 3 we couldn't get anywhere. I just do wear a strike force

Yeah, which has that is free DLC. I think this week. You can't buy tropical 30 on game spot on GameStop's website And that would be frustrating backordered as a developer. I mean yeah frustrating as hell other website is backordered as a developer I mean yeah frustrating as hell absolutely I mean I always I went to two different best buys and a game stop for you guys trying to find this game and it was a new game yeah I searched on their website and there are no game stops within a hundred miles I have it same with game crazy I checked them out too yeah that would be frustrating yeah how many games stop America 4800 are there more way more than I know I think it's probably it's between 4800 and 6000 let's say there's way more than that? I know I did. I think it's probably

4800 6000 let's say there's 12,000 and that'd be high. Yeah, for sure So there's not 12,000 copies of the game out there. I essentially yeah, it's like and also how fucking expensive is it to manufacture a disc? Yeah, the only place I would find it was like on Amazon calm. Yeah That's not not the Amazon rainforest the the dot com. I had a similar problem getting that Sonic and Sega all started racing too I could they didn't have it at best buy or game crazy or game stop I eventually found it at the mall Ladies and voices that game stop open their five thousandth store in 2007. Oh Jesus. Yeah, they have a lot more than that We saw a cool trailer the other day. We could probably just we could spend this whole podcast Probably just talking about trailers that have come out there. There. There are a lot of trailers. Yeah. We saw a trailer for a game that you and I played in like a lot. Just cuz, just cuz. Just cuz.

We had a guy to convention once walk up to us say, hey, I read online that you and Jeff really like to play just cuz. And I'm like, just, just, just cuz, just cuz what? He's like, just cuz. And we're like, are you saying just cause? Oh my god what he's like just cuz and like just cuz and then we're like are you saying just cause? Oh my god, oh yeah, I say you know, that's how you say it. No, that's like no Regional thing. Yeah, he must have totally missed the point of the game Yeah, they have those anatomy of a stunt trailers and We watch the awesome. I mean what is he did he think like the title was like totally not connected to the game at all? No, I mean, he thought like, hey, why are you guys having a rebellion?

You know? Just because. Whatever. Oh, man. I wonder if it's called like just because T-O-O. Yeah. Just because. Well, you all have an rebellion.

Just because too. Why did you jump out of that plane? Why did you jump out of that plane? Why did you jump out of that plane? I'm in a plane just cuz. I'm in a rebellion just cuz. I'm in a rebellion just cuz. I'm in a rebellion just cuz. I'm in a rebellion just cuz. I'm in a rebellion just cuz too. I'm in a rebellion just cuz too. I'm in a rebellion just cuz too.

I'm in a rebellion just cuz too. I'm in a rebellion just cuz too. I'm in a rebellion just cuz too. He was doing parasailing off a car. Maybe it was called just because it would be you all or the idiot. Man, here we are. I love the guy, that guy's my new hero. Yeah, well, he was pretty awesome. The trailer we suffered just because too was pretty awesome. You drove a boat off of a, like hit a ramp on a boat and then jumped on the boat and then shot a dude in a sniper tower with a bazooka And then got back in your boat and drove on My I haven't seen that while you were like 30 feet in there. I'll just check it out. It looked great Yeah, it does it looks really really fun great and the first game was a lot of fun. It was I think it was underrated Did you ever thousand point that Jeff? Yeah, I went back and did it What about you Bernie? I did it before he did he did it probably two years ago

I was pretty sure you did right away. I know Jeff played it and put it down and picked it up again Yeah, it was one of those games where Jeff hadn't finished, but he was so close so I was like, ah, look, I'm gonna finish it. I'm gonna start this game and finish it before he can get his last 100 points. And he did. And I did.

But I went back in like last October and finished it and had a great time playing it again. Very fun game. I can't tell you how many times I've thought about in the last three years picking up a new profile and dead rising and getting that achievement, I just can't bring myself to do it. I cannot. I cannot join the club. The achievement you have to get in dead rising, which one is it? Seven days right now.

And that requires you to place straight for 14 hours. Yeah. Approximately. Yeah. And just and not fuck up. And not fuck up. So I mean, what do you have to do? Do you have to actually place a mind? Can you go hide in a corner? You got to eat your health is deteriorating like a click every 12 minutes or whatever. So you have to find food and eat it so that you can keep your health up So you don't that yeah, the first thing I do is build up your character to the point where you can do that. Yeah, you got to book it And there's also some little things to you like your character has to survive for What's 14 hours or seven days in the game. And your food only lasts so long, but it turns out your food lasts about

35 seconds longer than the timeout on a wireless controller. So you can feed your guy, then immediately set down your controller and do that over and over again. It's like a Tomogachi. You do it for a weekend, essentially. So what you're saying as soon as the, as the as soon as like your controller turns off, you immediately turn it on and eat? No, well, the controller turns off and then pauses the game. So then you can come back at any point, turn your controller on and say, eat a pizza. And then do that. And then you have to like go out and get more food when you run out of food. And you end up losing a stock pile of food

like on the awnings of these stores and the mall. And there's weird boss fights that only happen at certain times during the day in certain places so you gotta know where the guys are. That's not that's not so much in that mode but yeah you're right. Yeah. Like you have to clear out the all the bosses of present in the mall and that's where you get most of your food and you just have to clear them out one by one. You know, I want to play dead rising again now. Good.

Dead rising to coming out. Oh, I want to play dead rising before dead rising Dude, Dead Rising 2 is coming out this summer. Oh, I want to play Dead Rising 2 before Dead Rising 2. Maybe I'll we should go back and do that. One of the best games easily on the Xbox. Came out the first year of the Xbox 2. Came out what like summer 06, like August 06? Yeah. Hey, let me ask you a question, Michael Burns.

Go for it. Now that you're a hundred hours into it, how do you like Mass Effect 1? You've played it more than any human being has the right to play that game. It's not... it's not a curve, and I'm... It's... the achievements force you to overplay that game. They really do. They force you to overplay it. But it's a great game. It really is. I had a very Jeff moment though I have to say in playing that game.

Thanks. Jeff played all of crackdown without knowing that you could pull the left trigger to lock on to enemies So he's freeform aiming through the entire crackdown. He's jumping off buildings. He's the final boss whole thing. I played Play through in a half of Mass Effect without knowing that the car shoots rockets I just didn't know that and so I was machine gunning everything which took me a long time Jesus that takes that must have been There must have been hell on a thrish or maw, but I got yeah, but I got really good with that that car which that car is terrible

That car that car is terrible. I say that game is two phases It's the talk to people's faces phase and then they drive the car over a mountain phase Mm-hmm, and that's basically the two modes that I came it's so glad they're I'm glad they removed that car in Mass Effect 2. Yeah, having only played Mass Effect 2, I have no idea what you're talking about. The car is the MAKO. The car's unwieldy. They are. I know they're putting a car in the Mass Effect 2 and DLC.

Yeah, it comes out live this month, I think. Yeah, but I'm on the last run, I'm on my insanity run, and it made the combat much more fun. Oh, right. On a sanity level, and it's not hard at all. Oh, great. You probably all several level 60 character now right. Oh I do but they level up above you. That's part of what insanity is and they have this thing where they can like go immune and you have a roomful of

people who are immune you're just waiting it out. But on achievement hunter you guys have the ability to rate how difficult an achievement is. Yeah. And then the profile for that game then tells you what's the hardest achievement for that game? Mm-hmm. And in sanity, it's I think it's a ridiculous amounts of people have voted that as being a very hard achievement. And so maybe I was over prepared for it. Hmm. Well, I don't have a level 6 character. I have 59 with like a hundred thousand experience left to go. And I'm almost done with my insanity run through. So you're gonna have another playthrough of that.

Something. How long does it take to get a hundred thousand points in that game? I, well, let's put it this way. I have a hundred thousand points to go of experience and I think over the course of the entire game, I've gained 750,000. Oh so I have one 17th or something like that. I have a one seventh that I had to regain of my experience and I've done over the course of the entire game. Oh, out of all your playthroughs too, relatively? Well, no, because I started with the characters to get other achievements too, but yeah, we'll

see. It's just like a lot of work. I recognize the mass effect has identified that I have a problem where I have a completion problem where I can't put it down till it's done. You have a really high completion rate, you have like over 50 games completed. Oh, you have way more than that now. Yeah, yeah, I don't think I have 50% but I have a pretty high percentage too. I'm sitting at like 40. I'm doing a dumb thing where I don't start games until I'm

sure that I know there's not some dumb achievement in it that I can't. That's totally smart. That's not that stupid. No, that's stupid. I'm glad to hear you admit you have a problem Bernie. That should not be. That should not be. That should not affect the way that I play games. That somehow somehow it is. No, that's not the folks of the be that should not affect the way that I play some of somehow it is now that's that yes I'm the folks of the game folks of the game staff fun not these not to collect stupid arbitrary points I would just talk to you talk into it should we talk some more trailers yeah I was gonna try to bring up the tron trailer do that tron trailers so bad yeah it looks really cool I think so too okay next trailer Next trailer. Next trailer. I meant to.

But the thing that amazed me is the young looking Jeff Bridges. Yeah. And that a, and a try. A lot of people are realizing that that's Jeff Bridges. Like that's a young Jeff Bridges. Yeah, my wife didn't notice it. What do you mean that's not really Jeff Bridges? Well, of course it's not.

It looks like him. You're saying they don't realize the character? Yeah, they don't realize that's Flynn from the first movie. Yeah, they didn't record Jeff Bridges parts for this movie, you know, 25 years ago like Superman No, Sean was a flop. Was it really a flop? Yeah, the first the first strong. I believe it I think it was considered a big flop. It was denied a nomination for Academy Award because he used computer effects Really? Yeah, like it was denied... special effects award are even nominated because it used computers and i was cheating

well and now avatars one for best animated movie looks like tron made thirty three million dollar wait a minute do you think avatars one for best animated movie that was a joke oh i was about to say that was what it would miss animated up with a lot of object i did watch one second of the oscar when I didn't see that? Up did. I didn't watch one second of the Oscars. No, you didn't miss anything.

It was terrible. I enjoyed the Oscars. You guys been ripping on it. A lot of people have been ripping on it. I actually thought it was pretty good. What do we rip on it? I didn't rip on it. Matt and I ripped on it for about an hour, Monday.

It's when you were home with allergies. Yeah. Seed or fever. You know, I thought the charm was considered flop, but it made $33 million on a $17 million budget in 182 182 a lot of money $17 million bucks a lot of money spending 82 yeah a lot of money Let me see what Jedi cost on I will look this up. Why y'all discuss Speaking of what stuff cost did you see the God of War 3 cost 44 million dollar?

Who announced that number? I didn't see that I was on joysticks I'm always skeptical of these. I ain't so. Or whoever develops. No, no, it's not. Oh, really? Okay, I have to develop actually announcing that. And they were saying that that was right on like target with what they wanted to spend on

it. Exactly. Like there was a list a couple weeks ago that was like the top ten most expensive games ever made. I looked at some of those budgets and I didn't believe them. I got to say I didn't believe it either. Yeah, they seem sketchy to me. Grandsett's thought I was on there for 100 mil.

I don't see how you could spend $100 million. Maybe music rights. I wouldn't know. I don't know what it cost to make a video game. I'm surprised when I find out that only 100 people make these things. Yeah. And they start off with teams of like,

15 to 20 people, throw it up to 100 over the course of development. I would think you would need 300 people to make a video game. Fuck, make it a thousand. Okay, there you go. Sound my money. To accommodate our vision? Yeah, it would take a thousand easily. To give you perspective, return to the Jedi, which when I looked it up Jack was looking on my shoulder. So I'm going to fund myself before Jack does. When I look

this up I take a return to Jedi. I have no idea why I wrote that. But the production budget on return of the Jedi by George Lucas also knows Star Wars episode 6 cost 32 million dollars So Tron was a little more than half the budget from return of the Jedi. Wow. So if I mean that that's a They knew that was solid money. That was bankable money 32 million So I Tron must have just had an escalating budget. All right. How do we get up on this discussion? We're gonna change it now. Oh, we. We're talking about the expensive video games. Right. I mean, that's going to be like, it makes you wonder too.

I guess there's something to be said for just saturating the market. But why wouldn't you make like a reach? Or why wouldn't you make a modern war for every year? If these things cost $50 million and make a fucking billion dollars. Yeah. I don't know. I would.

I've seen our friends who are blizzard. I don't know. I would. I've seen our friends who are blizzard that I follow on Twitter, they post their company parties. That's 1500 people at Blizzard. And we know that most of Blizzard is wow at this point or big chunk of it is. How many people work on wow? I bet there's not many that work on wow. I would be surprised more than 200 people work on wow.

We read out. We read how many people work on wow and that infographics thing we had the other day. Yeah, it was surprising. We small. Yeah, I don't know what it was, but it was it was it was a surprising figure. God, I'm sure they have a lot of like a lot of people dedicated on the Starcraft and Diablo teams and also on that other new MMO they're working on that they haven't announced or say anything about. What is that by the way? I fucking fine. I wish I knew Come on tell us give us a hint. What I saw the way you I said a little twinkle in your eye. I work here I don't know anything about that

Did you read about the uh did you read about the new MMO that was announced yesterday? No, what I can't remember. I was hoping somebody else would know is I think I know what you're talking about is it the Battlestar Galactic? Yes, oh yeah, the Battlestar Galactic MMO That's uh, I think that's something I liked a lot, but I've no interest in playing in game 4. Isn't that being developed in Austin? I, I don't know, but it's a weird setting for an MMO because they never went anywhere.

I mean, they never, it was, you know, ship to ship. Yeah, I mean, is that right? Do you know ship to ship? That could be an MMO, I guess. The ships were pretty big. Yeah. And there was, we used to know, there was 20 of them.

30, something 30. I don't remember. They always had the count of the people up on the wall. I guess they could do that. But they only went to like, I think three planets in the entire show. Yeah. What'd you do?

Are the silons constantly following you? Like, I'm gonna go hop in my vipershoot some silons down. Woo! OK, let's go. You've got some dances on the bar. That'd be the greatest animal of all time if they only let seven people be silence. I got seven players per server. That's it. I guess 13.

Would you play an MMO with a user cap? Like, say there could only be 2,000 players on every server. That depends on the dynamic of the game. Who would make that business model? Yeah, I don't know. By the way, the accounts are $900 a month. To we mean like 2000, that's it. I wouldn't know. I guess it would depend on the if it was a ton of AI in there. Like, if you were in say like Matrix, for instance, if you were in a normal environment, there was like only 2000 other people who were super powered in the whole thing.

That might make sense. Or city of heroes. It has to be something where it's like it enclosed environment and every user would be more important than normal. It's kind of how galaxies were supposed to work where only certain people could be Jedi. And it was a really big deal to get to become Jedi and they broke it almost immediately. Yeah, then they fucking... And you just do tola crons. You mean the devs broke it? Yeah, well, after a month, like everybody in the fucking server was a Jedi. Like, nothing you can do about that, Jeth, there's nothing you can do about that.

Well, before the Jedi came out in the game and leading up to like in during development, the game they said that the process to become Jedi was in a work in the story. It was going to, it was going to make sense. It was going to be a clear path. It'd be attainable for anyone if they just worked at it and in the end it was just like, oh, find this rare item. Yeah. And if you find the rare item then then everybody found it. Yeah. Really everybody found it. You had to go into this fucking cave and fight this monster and like 5% of the time he would drop this holocon and you would go into that cave and there would be 500 people all sitting around and the monster would only spawn like once an hour and then everybody yeah the monster spawn spawns an hour and everybody would try to like try to shoot it real fast

and then you know one out of 20 times somebody would get the holocon one out of 20 times one out of the 500 people would get yeah and 499 people would be cloud-songing and you know So if you shot the monster like you got the shot that killed him. No you had it first Okay, and then it aggro down you whatever so then but if you're the one who killed it The holocrom the job was yours or can other people pick it up? No, no If you if you're the one who shot it first and it was tagged as your enemy then it would you're the only one who glued it That's it. Okay. What do that's that makes sense though? If you think about the canon of Star Wars. That's how Darth Vader he killed that thing.

It's a midichlorian box. I mean, how does that pass any kind of writers meeting? I mean, they're all a bunch of geeks in a room that follow Star Wars. Who comes up with that? Everyone goes, yeah, that's cool. That's how you become a Jedi. That makes sense. You kill a monster at cave. You become a Jedi. It was like when Luke was on Dagoboy and he faced Darth Vader, you know, in his mind. When did Luke become a Jedi? What was that the moment?

He became a Jedi between 5 and 6, didn't he? He went away. He went back to Tatooine and completed his Jedi training at Obi-Wan's old house, right? And that's how we got the Green lightsaber from... got kwagans lightsaber that was in like a foot locker in obi one's house and like he not he wrapped it up what the movie did you know what's that in the movie it's in the radio it's in the radio place i think he's right though i'm right yeah they mentioned kwagans in the radio place they don't mention him specifically but they mention that it was obi one's

old Jedi master oh no kidding yeah and that Yeah. And that's why he has that green lightsaber and Juh. All right. Fair enough. Fair enough. So the contest, if you've ever wondered, who the biggest nerd in the podcast is, Jeff Ramsey. Today. I'm sure that'll change hands next week.

No way! I feel someone busts out with Stark Trek minutia. What? Corey Haine found dead. Yeah, he died this morning. What the fuck? He OD'd. That's not a surprise.

I mean, I guess that's not that big a deal. I mean, that's a big deal to him. Are they saying he OD'd? Yeah, it's a... It's a post-over report. Yeah, initial reports that it was overdiff. Wow. Unintentional overdiff.

In the picture they've got of him here is he's, you know, 18 or, you know, 16, he looked like he was 12, but he was 18. The last boys. Yeah, man. Yeah, see, and then did not have a flattering photo of him this morning. No, no, no. Was there a more recent one? He hasn't he didn't age well.

Yeah, had a lot of rough times in his teens, I guess. Man, I think fame at a young age can be probably one of the worst things that could ever happen to you. It must have been really bizarre for that kid to be like on, he was in the cover of like Tiger Beat and all those heartthrob magazines and like you'd go into Walmart and it'd be posters of the Hame brothers, next to football players and stuff. And he, he like overnight went from being like the object of every 15 year old girl's desire

to nobody remember who he was. That, that happens, I mean that's that category. Yeah, no, I know, but he, he lived with it for a a while because he he was a child actor to before we became a teen actor and i must have been like weird to like from like say it from like the age of eight to like fifteen that's your life and the new trend sixteen and like nobody's calling you know well even the one to see me make it out of a child acting career and sustain i mean the poster boy for that is michael jackson you know to mean and they

don't really it's still not uh walking Phoenix to the Patrick I was a walking theme for his famous child actor. He was pretty big like I just saw him in the parent clip the other day Well, I think he was famous because River was fame But he did he was in a lot of movies. I'm saying. Yeah, you know, he was you know He was leaf Phoenix. I wasn't he was leave you read about the kids and he was and he changed his name from leaf to Walking Phoenix. Yeah, I guess Jody Foster would probably be the best example of someone who's turned out success like turned out yeah but you see

got crazy stuff around her yeah that guy who shot Reagan to their attention Fred Savage and Fred Savage stop Reagan he really like Joey he was a huge taxi driver fan but would you say Fred Savage is I mean he's directing and producing now He does a lot of it's always sunny in Philadelphia. Okay, okay. Yeah, he's not acting really, you know at all anymore But he's still in the game I mean, I mean currently Neil Patrick Harris He was a child. Yeah, he's probably the top of the top of the food chain right now in that respect carry Carry what's her face from Felicity? Carrie Russell?

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except for the success, essentially. I think a lot of reality stars must deal with that. Yeah. Oh, hey, you're Bill from season seven of Survivor. That's why you see a lot of the Survivor people like signing autographs at truck shows. It makes me think of that scene in the wrestler where maybe he's working behind the Delhi counter.

The dude's like, I know you look like that wrestler guy. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. He didn't want to work the counter no matter what. Right. Yeah, no matter what happened. Yeah. It was more of a pride, yeah.

And now Mickey Rorkis in the Iron Man 2 trailer to bring that back down. He looks great in the Iron Man 2 trailer. What do you mean? No, it seems like his accent, the character, all that stuff seemed really cool. Oh, really? I didn't like it. I've never read the comic books. I don't know. I am withholding judgment I mean that face because I love Iron Man so much

But what kind of character is yeah, I don't even know it like I don't read comics what's supposed to be he's a character called whiplash I read Iron Man a ton as a kid and he's a weird like combination of He's a later character, but he's kind of a re-visioning of a character called constrictor Yeah, from the like the 80s Ironman and late 70s stuff We had to like steal cables that came out of his tops of his wrists and And you know, he's one of these villains where Ironman suffers from good villains Or all essentially fall in the category of people who worked for Stark or or competitors of Stark and stole his technology and then you did against Iron Man. So they're all just some very easy to Iron Man. You can even

see that he's got the big heart thing in the Iron Man 2 trailer and they're doing a great job with getting around that and they actually haven't gone to the main villain which is Tony Stark himself. They haven't started to do that stuff yet. Yeah, I'll be interesting if they foreshadow any of that. The rumor is that demon in a bottle story line is going to be the third movie. I heard it's great. I mean, it is the main reason why I heard it made fans when they heard that the cast Robert Dunning Jr., but it's like, that's perfect. Yeah.

You know, it's because Tony Stark, the suffering alcoholic was great. And they seem to be going to the the war machine plotline before they do that so I you know What are you gonna do have faith right? It's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be awesome The first one was incredible the trailer looks awesome, you know I'm sure Mickey work will be great and scrolled your hands and looks that's the first time I've ever been interested in the black video character ever Yeah, I'm pretty interested in that too Yeah, they can buy it right now and I think when it's pouch is looking like that character's actually really interesting I like the dynamic between her and Tony Stark Yeah, well I think a's not thinking about it right now. And I think what it's about just looking like that character's actually really interesting. I like the dynamic between her and Tony Stark.

Yeah. A lot of good trailers came out. I guess everyone's gearing up for summer, summer movies. What's the big summer movie this year? Iron Man 2? It's May. It's made. It's made.

It's made. It's made. It's made. It's made. It's made. It's made. It's made. It's made. is May. I think you stop. Stop that's not a big. That is not.

Not a blockbuster. Kick ass will make over $100 million. OK, we all agree, but that's not. They're put it out in April. They don't they wouldn't put it out in April. If it was like the marquee movie of the summer, also every movie makes $100 million. No, that's not a big deal.

Kick ass will surprise you. Look, we're all excited about kick ass. Can't wait for kick ass. It is not the the blockbuster jewel in the studio summer lineup. It's not Iron Men 2. So what would be like did July 4th movie this year? Yeah, I don't know. Terry Potter got a movie to name. Harry Potter has two movies coming out. That's November though right? They're later in the year. Yeah. It's always around Thanksgiving for Harry Potter. Hmm interesting. I really don't know. Maybe it's something secret. Toy Story 3? When does that come out? Yeah, that could be it. That could be it. That'll be a big one.

There's something else. I'd like to drop some knowledge. Okay, here we go. Dun, dun. Um, July... Well, before he says it, will it be a 3D movie? Yes or no? Yes. Okay. June 30th, which is right before July 4th, obviously June 30th Twilight Eclipse. Oh wow, that's really just Jesus. I know they're filming that Have I mentioned yet that I actually watched Twilight?

Did you like Twilight? I did I I thought it was totally fine. The glowing stuff when he gets to the sunlight, that was too much for me, but everything else was totally fine. There was just nothing and nothing happened. I disagree. Until Vampire Baseball, I was when the movie started. And that was like an hour and 30 minutes in. No, I disagree. I thought it was pretty fine. Crazy. Just for reference, July 9th is despicable me and predators. Oh, predators. I wonder how big that'll be. We need to training for that yet. Have we? Yeah, they've just filming that it feels like they're nothing seems that big in this list. I read that Rodriguez is bringing Predators

footage to South by to show. Inception July 16th, we talked about that a couple of podcasts ago. Yeah, but even that seemed like a December kind of a side. Yeah, that ain't true. Oh, level like a surrogate. Do you remember that Bruce Willis movie? You can watch her. I just saw that was good. It was I like anything sci-fi. Honestly, I love anything sci-fi and it was just good There was something really cool in that trailer that made me want to see it just for whatever was already falling down on the street Maybe the folding yeah, the 18 Jonah Hex and Toy Story are all June releases. Jonah Hex? Yeah. I don't even know what that is. It's a comic book.

Yeah, it's the one with Megan Fox. Which is like a western comic book. No clue. Didn't know I have no hearted comic, never heard of the movie. Yeah, it'll be, I think it's gonna be a big movie. There's no, I'm not even sure I'm sitting here right now. Oh, I know what a fucking, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, the stands of time movie. Oh yeah, that's coming out.

Prince Persia. There's a Marmaduke movie coming out. I'm there. Starting Owen Wilson and Ron Perlman and Jeremy Piven. Jeremy Piven is in the Marmaduke movie. Ron Perlman and Jeremy Piven have got to be the two best guys in the world that... If Jeremy Piven are to room together... Is the voice of Marmaduke?

I was sending him $100 right now. I was putting an envelope and send it to him. I hope you guys don't. Who is the voice of Marmaduke? I don't know. God, I hope Jeremy Piven is the voice of Marmaduke. What's the name of the new Edgar Wright movie? Scott Pilgrim?

You mean the one that are filming out in Arizona or whatever? I thought they were done with it now. I don't know. It's another comic book movie. Owen Wilson is the voice of Marmaduke. Dear Lord, well he's got the nose. Jeremy Pivant is the voice of Bosco. Oh, he's the voice of a dog?

I have no idea. That's good for 25. Bosco sounds, yeah. It definitely sounds like a dog's name. Bosco is the voice of something. I guess it could be all animated, right? It could be. Does anybody know what Marmaduke is?

No, I can't imagine that. I mean, Marmaduke was like the Lamer version of Clifford the Big Red Dog and his lame as it was, you know? Marmaduke is like Heathcliff. When's the Pogo movie coming out? Over that matter, when's the Heathcliff movie coming out? Or Snuffy Smith.

Jeff, you must have read Snuffy Smith growing up, right? I mean, that will be him. I got it. I like Snuffy Smith when I was a kid. That thing can't possibly exist today, right? I mean, that was like depression level cartoon when we were growing up.

Why was that still around? It's funny. You say that. I went to the grocery store last night and I saw that they had some sodas set out. Like the 12 packs of Pepsi with like the old branding, like the old Pepsi logo from the 80s. And then next to that, they had some old, like the old Pepsi logo from the 80s and then next to that they had some old

like Mountain Dew with retro packaging like the Mountain Dew package for like the 60s where it's like covered in hillbillies and It said like it's good for your innards. You remember those old the old mandu ads? No, it's good for your innards Like that's the one that when Mountain Dew first came out in like the 60s and 70s It was it was marketed towards like hillbillies in the in the Ozarks and the Adirondacks and like all their their mascots the logos were like Hillbilly's with like jugs and they were like dance You never seen any of this stuff. No, I'll link don't bit But it's like no, it'll tickle your innards. That was their their old their old cat

Tickle your innards Wow, no, I never knew that no and then now it's for life. I was just out of was a response to mellow yellow I'm a yellow was more for the beat knit crowd it was that was the hipster crowd It was mellow yellow no mel in mountain news completely taken over that The mister yellow is sitting around somewhere just fucking cursing up a storm. You know there's how to do the do commercial. Every time the X Games comes on TV,

I got like something bitch. We should have been yellow. We should have been so goddamn mellow. Mellow yellow, what was I thinking? We thought we were going to ride that mellow with some decades, thinking the 80s. That fucking Nancy Reagan. Take away our mellow, but it's ail

I love it when it all comes back around it always does it always seems like it somehow or some way it does So I can't believe we've made it almost an hour into the podcast And we have a podcast 52 by the way. That is 53 53. That's four year. Happy birthday It's a we're almost there. We had that week where we did five in a week. Oh You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I can't wait. We haven't talked about Steam coming to the Mac yet. I I prefaced it. It's true. You talk you You teased it and people have been listening waiting for it Steam Mac Mac is gonna get steam so let me ask you this question I

paid 99 bucks To get every Valve game on the PC version of steam which by the way Incredible deal. Yeah, it's tremendous does that mean I'll just be able to like install steam and download the Mac Yep, yep, is that true? Yes, that's tremendous. Does that mean I'll just be able to like in-scall steam and download the Mac? Yep. Yep. Is that true? Yes. That's unbelievable. Any game that you own and can play on the PC side, you can Redownload and play on the Mac side. There's honestly that's a kind of thing like you can take for granted. There's no justification for that. That they would port the game to another platform and I would just be able to Download it for the hell of it. Right. That's an awesome move by that company. Yeah. It's really cool. That's incredible.

They're even going back and porting the original left for dead as well. Like, you know, some back catalog stuff to make sure it's all filled out. That's great. You know, we spend or I want to say we as a culture, we spend a lot of time be rating companies for what they should do when when they don't do it. Like, oh, they should give this away for free. And, you know, they should ask the fans how they want this to end and make five different versions and give it to us this way and all that stuff.

But when somebody does something cool like that, that's not a given. That is a major endeavor and they should be commended for that. Wow, that is cool. Everyone should go, download Steam and buy some games. I agree, wholeheartedly. Man, that's pretty cool. I hope it does well.

I hope more games start moving over to the Mac.-hmm I phone is done well right remarkably yeah or they say that the iPad is gonna launch with the largest video game category like catalog in history and it doesn't matter you know doesn't matter I can't say it doesn't matter to have you seen the windows of phone oh yeah windows seventh mode they were playing the same version of the game on the phone and on the Xbox and on the PC yeah I saw it you could even unlock game on the phone and on the Xbox and on the PC. Yeah, I saw it. You could even unlock achievements on the phone. Yeah, I can't wait. It's the best thing ever. Yeah, I guess it's part of the X and A game studio 4.0 that they're talking about GDC

this week. Dude, my dumps are going to be so productive. Oh, Jesus. That's going to be the best. They were doing this thing where they were showing it somewhere weird. I forget where it's like they were in Dubai and they were showing this thing off Where it was the same version of the game and they're playing it on the on the phone playing on the PC and then playing on the Xbox Was it was it like touch on the phone? I don't know. I read the story. I actually see the video itself. Hmm

But I mean, that's pretty cool. I also read I don't know if it's a rumor, but I read about Mac Steam is that you can play a game on the Mac Save your game and then move over to PC and finish it there. Yes All you could also play if you're playing multiplayer against people on the PC platform Wow, you know, it's crazy that like what the valve is able to that cross platform stuff seemingly better than Microsoft is when Microsoft actually controls two of the platforms Mm-hmm. Yep. Like how many MS games or how many games are cross playable from 360 to PC?

360 to PC. Shadowrun I think was one, right? Big head, they've counted in Shadowrun. Could you actually play? I think so. Okay, I'll be on that. I don't know man. I don't think there's any. Huh? No, no, you mean, where it's simultaneously PC and console users. Yeah, we're all gonna die on this on this

podcast, by the way. Um, no, I don't really think there's any other ones. Huh? Yeah, I think of the big thing people keep keep them separate because you have one part of the people playing with mouse and keyboard and other part of people playing with gamepad. Sure. And it's not the same. It's not the same. Well, if you knew you usually get games from Windows, right? Where they had they were starting push live and achievements to PC gaming. That was never full integration. Have they even do that anymore? Um, you know, I don't know. I don't ever see peace like games for live Windows games coming out with achievements anymore. Yeah.

So I don't know, but I know Halo 2 did it. I know that Shadowrun did it. There was some There were a couple more driving games. There was like 10 I think a Gears War did it. Gears War 2 I think. Yeah, but yeah, I really was a Gears War one actually, but yeah, I don't know. I think it seems like something that they banned and I guess it just wasn't Demand for it or I don't know. It seems like something that should be better at this point, right? Migrate. I think that's what steam's doing. Yeah. At least on the PC side, you know, they have their own achievement system and you can see

all that stuff online, you know, doing the cross-platform playing between, you know, PC and Mac, but still some cross-platform. It is a captive platform waiting for someone to take advantage of it. I think that, and then once Blizzard launches Starcraft 2 and Diablo, you know, whenever they do that, they have their own achievement system built in and like, you know, chat system and all that, all those kinds of things as well. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I know basic percentages of market share, but I wonder if you compared the number

of max in the marketplace to Xbox 360s or PS3s like what numbers would you be looking at there? Are there more max than there are right? So he's 12% of the computer market which max have is that equal to a greater than the number of 360s Right out there. I don't know and you know if you're gonna compare any Platform to a console the Mac is probably the best one because they're the most standardized computers. Yeah. You know, you know what you're getting into with the graphics hardware, typically, you know what you're getting into with the memory and the operating system.

So you mean like from a developer standpoint, they know, yeah, it's very standardized what they're coding for. Yeah. Yeah. It'll be an interesting experiment. I think they said that's going to launch the steam the mac launch is in April, I think. Wow. It should be very cool. And that portal two will be their first simultaneous PC mac launch. You excited about portal two? I guess yeah, I mean, I liked portal one a lot and then when it was over, I felt like it was too short, but once I played it once it was kind of off my radar. I'm sure that one portal two comes out of the awesome. It's gonna have co-op. I don't know how that's gonna work But I'm sure whatever they get that would be interesting. they do with it will be fucking fantastic, right co-op

I mean I couldn't imagine that I couldn't either. I would kill somebody. Yeah Right, I mean it would be it would be like in plus I feel like a legal Actual acceptable thing you could put forward as a plea is you know you killed this guy actual acceptable thing you could put forward as a plea is you know you kill this guy at 3 a.m. on a Friday night what happened it's important to just have a club mode level 11 yeah we'll see those a lot I had some some kind of funny when I picked up Final Fantasy 13 happened to me Tuesday morning I have this very contentious relationship with the target by my house because they open at 8 a.m.

every day and best bye doesn't open till 10 or 11 and game fat a game spot or game stop and game crazy open at like 10 or 11 And I always stop on Tuesday mornings at the target at a.m. on my way to come into work to buy whatever the new games are and I always go there and they don't have the games out and I have to stand there while the guys unpack the boxes And then they don't have the game I want or they can't find it I think it's in the back and I have to like antagonize them and they hate me and I kind of hate them And it's very tense very I would hate you. I think I would hate you. Yeah, I've I've sarcasm issues and they're working at 8 a.m Yeah, and yeah, and that they open a date and I'm expecting it to already be on the shelves, you know

And they're trying to put it all together and I'm not awake yet So I'm the shelves, you know, and they're trying to put it all together. And I'm not awake yet, so I'm really annoyed. And then I just want to get the fucking game because if I don't get the game, then I got to get this jack of Gus taking that lunch to buy it. And it's the whole thing he's just annoying. And this Tuesday, when I walked up to the 360 aisle, and I like, I walked up to it and I turned and I looked at the top role games and the guy comes over and nudged me and he goes behind the counter for you. I was like, well, it's already pulled to the side for you. I didn't even he didn't ask what game. He just knew I was coming to get some.

And they'd already set it aside for me. Nice. That was pretty funny. That's fucking funny. Yeah. So you haven't told them what you do or anything. He just knows that you know, they just know I'm the guy that comes in and buys like two video games a week every Tuesday morning.

Well, you know, see you're gonna give shit what he does. This one is a lot of there is fast, we can get him all of that. That was it. Now that's the target. Is that the same target where Matt hung up on the first time? Yeah, got his credit card canceled. We were in line one time, we were buying furniture for this office when we were first moving in here and now we're about to move out of here, but we were buying furniture and I think Matt had used the card like four times that day because we were just on

an office spending spree. Yeah. And he got one of the security alerts on his card. We've laid the cashier, he goes, they're saying we need to call in and just verify some information. So Matt gets on the phone with the lady and I guess Matt was just like tense with her

and he was verifying his address or something like that. He didn't feel like he should have to give her as much information as she was asking for. This is frustrating when they put you in a process. Because it's like the password and then they want to know the last four of your social security and it's like, I'll just use another card, thanks, and then she canceled his card. The lady on the phone canceled his card on him.

It's fucking awesome. Yeah. Just outright. That was gone. Bye. We had to get mad at a new card. Every time we got to get mad at a renewed card, It's a big friggin hassle. She flagged his account I bet I love it to get the dickhead flag. I love it. It's like when we got our FedEx account canceled

When you when you yelled at them and threatened to sue them In my defense they lost a fucking server. I mean how do you lose a goddamn server? And they were truly like no big deal. They're like you got a tracking number yeah here it is it's like you know this is a $5,000 dollar computer and they were they said well how do we know it's $5,000 and I said you motherfuckers here's the goddamn receipt for it yeah cuz I paid for the fucking insurance for it that's why you didn't ask me if it was $5,000 you charged me for the fucking insurance I mean you know dust I was I was angry but I'm not gonna curse anyone out I worked in customer service for 12 years. I'm not going to

like call someone an asshole or do what most people do on the phone. I mean, why are you looking at me when you say that? I mean, I'm going to give you for affirmation. It's like, yeah, I agree. You see me. Have I ever called it like, you motherfuckers? No. I mean, we've had some dudes who are in our years of working tech support and stuff like that. We have that people who are just unbelievable. We had a dude on 9-11 Tell us yell that me. Yeah, because the internet was slow and I was like started the world trade centers Just fell and he's like I don't give it hell. They give it down what fell. I need to check my email. It's like

Okay It's like was it stock quotes? I didn't need to check it. It was stock loads. Yeah. It was the guy was a day trader or something Yeah, man I remember one time I had a dude Call me in the late 90s when we were working at that place and this is the dot com, you know, I remember looking, stocks are going crazy. And he said to me, he was just fucking reaming one of the reps that I managed and I said just transfer the guy to me, you know, because I hung, that's part of the job is manage,

just take that bullshit off those guys. Sure. And you know, I let him just go for like five minutes railing at me and all this stuff. And then I tried to respond to it and he was like, you know, this bullshit, do you know I day trade? I'm losing. You know how much I'm losing? I'm losing $10,000 an hour, probably that I'm talking to you.

And I said, you make $10,000 an hour doing day trades. And he's a guy go, maybe you should have that business on something more than a 1995 month pileup account then. I was like, what the fuck are you thinking? That's the probably the rudest thing I've ever said to a customer. Yeah. Yeah, the fucking upsell into a business account.

Oh, running a business on a residential account. Oh, well, we need to transfer to business sales. Hold on. That was a guttonized line. I was like, oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize this was a business account. You need to talk to a business. Oh, well, it's a, it's a, they changed their tune really fast.

I was like, I want to refund for the three hours that I was down and you get like, OK, you pay 1999 a month. But they changed their tune really fast. I want to refund for the three hours that I was down. And you get like, okay, you pay $99 a month. And you're down for three hours out of 24, which is the 30th of your month. And like, would you, I can request a 17 cent refund if you'd like. It wasn't even that, it was like, okay, we owe you 1.8 cents.

I guess I can get a check. Can we, can we round that to two? Is that okay with you? Yeah, I mean, and they don't, man, when they give you a business account. They do not mess around like our phone line Here's like 160 a month for phones here for two lines. I think it's together We pay like 85 bucks a month for for each line Mm-hmm. That's a DSL to you. That's our Oh, it's our internet too, but I mean doesn't matter. I mean a normal phone lines told bucks a month are

I don't want to say this out loud, our stuff here's residential no shit is it really yeah right I cut a few corners when we got it yeah all the business stuff when we moved in was like ridiculous you're right though all the business stuff where I priced out we moved in it was like you know business internet oh business internet oh well that's $1,500 a month it's like, you know, business internet. Oh, business internet. Oh, well, that's $1,500 a month. It's like, what are you fucking? Are you serious? Wait, so who looks at an address and it's like, okay, you're on Congress Avenue. Yeah, you're residential.

We're on residential. There's residential on Congress. Yeah, we're on the stairs too. There's a building two blocks over, kind of over by Chipotle, one of the same kind of these buildings that's an architect lives in it. Guys, they just built one on the street.

Yeah, you can have a Congress address. Austinian. Yes, though. Not that rare. But it is crazy like when you put the business level or business class of service on something, what it jumps it up. Because for instance, I mean, we're an internet company and we have a pretty high traffic site, but we actually pay more for our servers rent than we pay for our rent for our company. Yeah, that's true. They use a lot more AC than we do though. for our company. Yeah, that's true. They use a lot more AC than we do though.

I guess so. I mean, that's like, you know, I guess they include utilities at that, but it's crazy that, you know, the 10 square feet that our server sits in, cost more than the rent for the rest of our company for all of our employees. 10 square feet, it's like fucking four square feet. That's a fucking tiny ass little square. I mean, it's a closet. It's like a closet next to a closet. It's a fucking tiny ass little square. I mean it's a claw. I took a claw. It's an extra closet It's like 10 cubic feet maybe But there is a lot of AC in there. There's a lot of AC

You know just as we're talking about business stuff, too I'm always amazed just to bring this back to current events that we actually pay more in health care Then we do in rent and parking for everybody in the company. Wow. That's one of our biggest expenses. It's crazy when you think about it, right? That's pretty crazy. That is crazy. That healthcare comes from your company. I've always wondered where the hell that started.

That you don't get anything else in your life from your company. I do this like an old union thing or something. Yeah, just started one day. We all just kind of accept that that's the way it is that your healthcare goes with your job. I mean, I don't know where it should come from, but I think it probably started from people getting injured on the job and suing the places that they worked for and it was insurance against that yeah, and then it became insurance like I mean at some point Health insurance morphine of health care plans. Yeah, or it's not just insurance seems like it's like the individual Responsibility and not the company's responsibility.

Yeah, but you know, you don't get your car loan from your company. You don't get your home loan from your company. You don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get, you don't get if I don't want to pay with my companies, rate is if they make me pay part of my premium, I can go somewhere else and look at it. It's bizarre. I'd like a little more competition. Getting there's any companies that are big enough where they have medical staff? Absolutely.

Like, they just have a doctor on staff? I would think so, yeah. That would make sense. How about a doctor, maybe nurses? Like, that my school's campus is huge, right? Right. Up in Redmond, they've got to have like, there's got to be a gotta be a Michael stuff emergency

Aid or something there why would they that you say that but I mean just because a lot of people wait at 90,000 employees Yeah, but there's spread out across a bunch of different places, but they got to have tons I you know what Disney has a hospital on campus in Florida. I know cuz I went there once now is that Disney They just wait a minute. It's just Disney employees. It's like a Disney run hospital for Disney employees. And they treat crabs? Oh my god. Yes, and mermaids. Yes.

Do not ruin the illusion. What did you get the hospital for, Jack? Actually, I fell off a bike. So I worked at the Disney MGM studios, which is now. You had a little mini bike. Did you ride with the top pack? And it says, Alcobre Strikes in Disney MGM studios which is a little mini-bake Alcobas Studios and in the that's the one. It's now Disney's Hollywood studios But it's huge and unlike Epcot or the Magic Kingdom. There's no easy access like Magic Kingdom is actually built on top of tunnels

I don't know if people a lot of people know about that What so you can go underground to get to any part of the park, like just, you know, by climbing up some stairs. And anyway, they didn't have that at the place I worked, but they had bikes backstage where you could actually take a bike from one end of the park to the other where guests couldn't see you. And so there's a quicker way to get around. Like if you want to go to the cafeteria, it was like, you know, a 15-minute walk or, you know, a two-minute bike ride. So I was on a bike and I was talking to someone and completely hit a curb and fell and scraped my knee. They're like, well, you have to go to the hospital because I was

bleeding. Was it a nice hospital? Well, it's just like, it wasn't too crazy. You know, the Donald Duck was the chief of surgery and really, the greatest questions. Goofy came out with scalples and was pretty scary. I just like that, you know, then Jack is now the guy who fucks up the bike thing for everybody. Yeah. They take away the God dude.

Now everyone has to walk 15 minutes instead of riding a bike for two minutes. You know that's what happened, right? Yeah, absolutely. Actually, the funny thing is they did take out the bikes. Surely I thought, not because of me, but because, No, not because of you, not because of you,

never, never years. This is a month after, but because no, not because you never never never use months after but no they actually had an older female employee who She fell off a bike and she claimed that her manager forced her to ride the bike Like to go somewhere to get something and so Oshia came in and said you gotta get rid of the bikes So now there's like go car or not go cards, but golf carts in the back No, that's cool and much for every employee for every employee who weighs 15 pounds more now. Yeah, golf carts are always way better than a bike. You know, if you get on a bike or get in a golf cart,

which one are you think Jeff, you're more likely to take off a jump? For me? Yeah. I don't know. I've seen Jack ask. I'm pretty excited to take a golf cart off a stick. You're doing the golf cart for sure, right?

Yeah. Because you can hurt on the bike. you think you're immune to the golf car Safe in the golf car, you gotta move Yeah, I think golf car is a bad choice Drive over shit, you know you think you're immune That's like the second when we all were in Seattle and we all rode segways that day The first thing the guy said was don't go off curbs, don't try to jump anything And we're like yeah, no problem, buddy, as soon as we rounded that corner

I was like what can I jump? He's also like don't use the red key. The red key will make you go fast. We're all like, turn the corner, like, all right, I never put the red key in. That's fun. We were joust, we were playing tag on Segway. It's in the park in Seattle. That was, I mean, I have, like,

that was one of my first time, and I might have been my first time ever in Seattle. And I have no idea where we were. Like, if I were to look at a map, I have no idea where that was. There was a lake, and we were like in an area around the lake. And it was gorgeous. I remember that being like one of the nicest, nicest days I've ever experienced where that was. There was a lake and we were like in an area around the lake. Yeah, and it was gorgeous

I remember that being like one of the nicest Nicest days I've ever experienced in my life It was awesome. It was so much fun. Yeah, the weather was Perfect and there were all there was like 5,000 people out at that lake and there are those little restaurants where people were drinking at the time And then we were running around like idiots on the segues and then we ended up under like a freeway overpass Oh, yeah, we were like in a black top parking lot with like one of those fenced-in basketball courts underneath a freeway but it's really quiet that day and it was very surreal to me because we were just everyone was moving around but

they were silent because they're electric. So it was just like everyone was kind of like drifting all around that parking lot. Yeah. Very surreal moment. Good times. You remember what that was for? What were we were there for? Was it the original packs? We were there for packs one. Yeah. and what was the attendance of packs one? It was like eight thousand or five. No, no, it was twenty nine hundred I think I think there's three thousand or somewhere around there you can look it up on Wikipedia It shows but I think it yeah It was like three thousand and then the second packs was like

Six thousand and it was crazy. Do you remember that vendor? It was us and you be soft I think wow. Wow. And the guys who had the virtue We had a ball. No, no, the virtue rally ball was later. That was the next year. Yeah, that was the year We were we had that long table in the foyer and we had to like have somebody babysit the stuff because it was open 24 hours a day remember and that was when Joel was signing his name Joel Heyman Joel Every packs. Yeah me too. Yeah let's keep that alive. Man it's crazy. And what is this packs that we're currently going to hit this year? Seven? I don't know. Something like that. I guess the three of us have been to every packs. Well we've on our panel.

At packs in Boston is going to be Saturday at 3.30 pm. Right and we will be showing some very cool stuff. Do not miss that. And Joel and I'll be showing some very cool stuff do not miss that and Joel and I will be at Emerald City Comic Con this Saturday which is March 13th I believe yes that's right and we will be there from 11 to 12 in the Halo Waypoint booth at Emerald City Comic Con in Seattle and we will be giving away some DVDs I think we're going to give away reconstruction DVDs and just sign them but we're only going to be there for one hour and that's it we're just stopping by the Waypoint booth as part of like a halo community day and then you also have A South by Southwest interactive panel that they after that don't you? Yeah, but I don't yeah, I mean yeah

We are I don't know how many people listen podcasts are going to South by Southwest, but on Sunday I will be on a panel and Southwest at 11 in the morning again I'll double check that maybe 10. I think it's 11.30 actually. I slipped it up on the Southwest website. But it's the merch panel. It'll be me, guys from Bustatis, 30 Second Bunnies, and despair.com. And then the next week will be Southwest Southwest. I will be on vacation and appearing at every venue

that has free alcohol from Monday to Thursday next week. We might be announcing this a little prematurely, but we're also going to have an event at the Alamo Drafthouse here in Austin sometime in April. Oh, are we? Yeah, we're still working out the details. What's news to me? What are we showing? We're not on the calendar yet But we're hoping for April 1st Alamo Ritz for a seventh anniversary show. Yeah, South Lamar South Lamar But we're working it out. We'll we'll post some details soon as we have a date finalized. That's exciting. Yeah All right, so is it lunchtime? I think so. Let's go fight some food.

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