Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #53

Episode Date: March 17, 2010

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It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnet and Anthony Mackie comes the new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-octane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnet, and Thomas Hayden Church.

Twisted metal, streaming now now only on peacock Got to go with the theme song This is pretty first I am Jack Ramsay Just a roll up. Oh, hey man. Bada bada bada bada. Hey, you have a run. It's a podcast.

I think it's copyrighted. I think that is the most used soundbite we have out of the entire podcast when being remixed into a theme song is jekyllin the bada bada bada bada. And then now I just did it. Now you're in it. No, a minute, too. And somehow Coke made money off of that. That's McDonald's, I think.

Oh, McDonald's? I'm sure Coke is involved in there somehow. It's the same company. Hey, we have a guest. Yes. We have a special guest. Yeah, hi guys, I'm Bernie Burns. Glad to be here.

Third week in a row. I know. Welcome back. I'm very excited. It's almost like I'm working for him. No, we have another special guest who we we have even less than Bernie. Hello. It's Eric Dodie, aka DMZilla. Yes. And DMZilla works at Xbox Live. Tell us exactly what you do at Xbox Live. I am a community coordinator. I do many different things. I work on the same team as Major Nelson and Trixie. So you like the generally is that marketing events kind of a thing or do you actually like run Xbox Live community as well?

Like the actual software as well? Because I know on Major Nelson's podcast they have Laura Lollipop who's on there. And she's part of the programming. Now is that all part of one big group? No, actually Laura is an ESPET. She does testing and some coding. I thought all you guys did were like hand out achievements and ban people. Yeah, well, we do that too.

Oh, so, okay, that's cool. So if you want someone banned on it, contact Zilla. He's the one. Oh, great. Now, I instantly got 100 messages. No, don't, don't, don't flat out podcast that once you got like two maybe. Yes. And Zilla is in town because this week is South by Southwest, which is the festival that we have every year in Austin, which started off as just a music festival. Then it became a music and movie festival. Then it was for a really short period of time. It was called multimedia.

But then I guess they thought multimedia sounded too much like. Yeah, but then the late 90s ended. Yeah. It's like too much like an card on CD on so then it became the interactive festival yeah which is essentially a festival of people who know each other online getting together to meet each other in person and when did the douchebag level of the festival get added in I'm a little unclear on that timeline I probably would be that was early on probably yeah the year they invented the festival badge I think I don't know when that was established that you had to have a badge

I saw my first badge the day before South by Southwest started this year some woman was walking out of street wearing I thought there's no fucking reason she should be wearing that right now So she was wearing a badge to get into events that weren't yet happening right? That's she was like a time traveler or something. That's pretty cool approach They would like they wouldn't let her into her hotel. There's something unless she has there They should that you get to the front of the line I get coffee at the coffee shop or something speedo which it's it's what happens That's what happens to us for an entire week while we're down here is like all of a sudden

You'll be standing line at the coffee shop that we stand in line at every day and then so on We'll just cut in front of you They don't understand how the line works. They don't understand how the line works I think the badge gives them rights to cut in any line anywhere at any time I think. It's like a clipboard. I want a badge like that. Or they just really don't like you. That could be a two. Maybe they understand. Maybe you're the ones you don't understand. They're the ones getting coffee before you know. It is true, right? I mean, I told the lady at the coffee shop next door that we were in the process of moving to a new building.

Mm-hmm. Which she cried. She every I thought she was going to shed every single coffee shop that is near whatever office is like there it's always horrific news you know we're moving after we moved away from the office and beauty that coffee shop did close down it is true that coffee shop no longer exists that doesn't speak well for the coffee shop here in Congress so you know you know what the strategy is of course it just open a coffee shop where it's gonna be you're gonna make money Can we do a little bit of management by podcast with that be okay? Let's do it. Okay Joel you Joel we've worked together very long time right? Oh, it's gonna be good

So so Joel has played Joel has played Kaboost, but Joel was out in LA He had a bunch of acting digs out in LA and so he recently joined us in the office in Austin I say recently now it's been what two years essentially at this point feels like you move like move from LA to Austin Feels longer and And so Joel's been doing a lot of work and doing a lot of traveling and just for whatever reason Joel did not have a company credit card Which we saw the Microsoft company credit card courtesy of Zillow the other day. He didn't buy anything for us, but We saw it. I just like to wave it around We just memorizing the numbers.

It's got the jewel in the middle of it. You can pull up your account balance. This stuff is really weird. There's a lot of achievements left on that card. And so anyway, so Joel was one of the last people to get a company credit card. And Joel, how long did you bug me to get a company credit card? Would you say it was two months?

Straight? I. Oh, I love where this is going. Where's this going? So the company credit card we used for traveling and all that stuff. I already have my, just like, I need to travel. I got book hotel rooms. I need the credit card because I just, I can't stand getting hotel rooms and going through guys again. I just need it. I need to, I said, like, Joel, I'm very sorry. I'll get it for you. Joel finally gets his credit card.

He is first charged that I get his first monthly statement, $1.79 in Starbucks. I don't know what I can do for me. The way you justify that, the way that that's justified is that it's only like about, you know, 10% of my general coffee expenditures. So therefore it's totally... So you spent $17.90 at Starbucks that day? Probably. You know, with the amount of money...

Is that surprising to you? He put that piece of proxies to you. He put the tip on the credit card. But with the amount of money that we spend to end up like coffee on you know our corporate budget if there is a two thing When we move away from this coffee shop we could probably buy our own goddamn one of those machines Why don't we why don't we buy why don't we I bet it would be cheaper if we buy one of those machines and hire a barista to run it No, I don't think that's the case. I think so. I think we should do that. I think we should be cheaper to buy a machine and more entertaining to watch Joel burn himself with the team like once a week.

That would be funny. I think our healthcare premiums would go up if we got one of those machines in our office. Gotta be sweet if we had one of those. But not like like you guys, Zilla, you guys just moved into a huge new campus, right? Yeah. Do they have a coffee machine? Five or six new buildings. Well, we have our own coffee stands with baristas,

and then we also have the Starbucks machines. Do you have to pay for any of that, or is it all complimentary? The machines are complimentary. Interesting. They also Microsoft has those big coolers everywhere of just you can go up and grab a drink. Yeah, that's true. And they have that one drink that I've never seen anywhere in the world.

Oh, oh, oh, talking rain. Talking rain. Yeah. I've only ever seen that in Microsoft. I don't even know where it comes from. That's like the soil in green of King County or something. Talking rain comes from the crying mountains. That's no big.

What is it like a cup of coffee? No, it's just the water. No, it's a carbonated coolate essentially. No, carbonated coolate. I don't know what kind of shitty coolate you had to get it, but they have different flavors. It's like, seltzer water in can. And there's different colors at the top that little band and it tells you what quarter and quarter flavor it is. If it's red flavor, green flavor. Yeah, then it tastes like, the reds ones taste like copper, the blue ones taste like bluish copper.

They all have that same kind of mineral taste to them. That's how you know it's good for you. It's fortified. It's very suburban, because they don't have real flavors, like grape and cherry. They're all mixes of kiwi strawberry and banana chocolate. I don't, I'm just making these. But that chocolate sounds awesome.

No, that would be awesome. No, they're all like mixes of different fruits You would never put together in reality So like their strategy is like once you have one and you discover how bad it tastes And it's like well, I haven't tried this one. Yeah talking right. Apparently the rain says yeah Here Jolas I pulled a picture on Google image search for you. So I guess I'm sorry. I meant being I meant that pulled it up In case anyone's wondering I guess Jeff's out on vacation this week. That's why he's not in

the podcast today. And we we hear from him like once a day about how not being at work is the greatest thing ever. And he doesn't want to talk about it too much because he doesn't want to rub it in our face that he's having so much fun at South by Southwest. And we're all stuck at work. Is he going to South by Southwest stuff? Yeah, he's been doing a bunch of free stuff. Oh, okay. Well, we did some free stuff yesterday, right?

I guess so, I guess we did. What do we do? You attended the Microsoft or Xbox Live community event at South by Southwest. Which was great. They had Salt Lake barbecue catered there. Which was the greatest thing. I've been to the Salt Lake in years and it's like, oh my god.

You know, our old office in Buda was like four miles from the Salt Lake and I think that's the line. I've not been back to the Salt Lake since we moved away from that office. I lived like a mile away. You know we sent for Christmas gifts. We sent these guys at Zilla and Major Nelson's group. We sent them like what 25 pounds of Salt Lake barbecue. Yeah, I came back from a meeting and I had a giant cooler in my cube. It took up my entire cube and I opened it up and it just glowed. Like almost like a... Like pulp fiction? Yes, exactly.

You put up a briefcase and it just glows and you have tears in your eyes. It's amazing. So they returned the favor by coming down to Austin and buying a Salt Lake here. That worked. That worked very well, I think. I thought it did work well. Now, if only those other ingrates we sent meat to would do the same thing and for the first time in my life I got to meet major Nelson

That was pretty cool. So really the first time you met him? Yeah, yeah, it was a weird thing where Every time he came by you know, cuz I can't works constantly right and he's always filming something or shooting something for majors minute and every time we were at an event or like Comic Con or something or packs at the same time I would always come back to the booth from wherever I was and I would hear, oh you just missed major Nelson, he was just here, you know I was starting to feel like Clark Kent. I never realized y'all were at the same place at the same time. No, I never met it. I would have grown suspicious if I had noticed. Yeah, see? See, these dark glasses I wear. They tell. It's the beard.

Yeah, I have to glue my beard on. So you don't realize we're the same person. But that was cool and we met Laura Lawypop. I just wanted to meet from your group Steven and the vowel as well. You've never been to I always call them the vowel because I follow my Twitter. But yeah, E. Nope. Wow. Well, he's a big NCAA college football fan, which we won't get into because I don't want Jack to come. We have Jack's not here. Tell us about the latest coaching changes in the NCAA. But it's always nice to talk to somebody who watches the same kind of sport that you do. Even if you watch this, you know, shitty pack 10.

What can you do? There's no accounting for taste. The fact that you're even talking about sports and any respect, I just zoned out. Like sports are totally beyond me. Really? Yeah. Well, you guys in Seattle, you guys seem to like the, uh, uh, what's that soccer team? The Sounders? The Sounders, well mainly because they have Xbox live on their jersey.

We have to like them. Is it true? They also practice at your new campus or do you have a big soccer field there? Yeah, we have a amazing soccer field. I won't lie. I do like soccer. I do follow some sports, but generally I'm too busy gaming to actually watch anything. But the the sounders are amazing guys. They come by every once in a while and practice on our field and

generally the team tries our team goes and watches them play in Seattle. They drink all your talking rain while you're there. They have to practice. They hoard it. That's where their power comes from. Kicking, kick enough strawberry kiwi. You got to fill up when you can. So what are the, like, what league does the Sounder play? Well, I think they're MSF. Yeah, they're MSF.

God, I don't follow. That's the one league I just don't follow at all. Obviously, that didn't clear up anything for me at all. Not the major league soccer. But who's it? How many teams were in MSF? It's like 12, I think. Is that where, what's his name place?

The famous guy that's very good at it? Beckon, he did. Yeah, he played for the LA Galaxy. Is he still with them? He went back to the UK temporarily and he broke his back or something last week. He broke his back last week. He broke his back.

Was the case, was his contract like Kelly Stanton? How much did they pay him his contract was outrageous? Wasn't it? Yeah, his contract was pretty ridiculous. It was like what was it like a hundred million? Am I not the only reason he he came here is we were the only people still willing to pay him because he's so fucking old. Well, who's the star of the sounders then? Is he the they have some major player on the sounders? I? I'm clueless. What happened to that? No, no, no, see now you stepped up. So now you have to answer all of our ML last questions to the expert now Yeah, David Beckham has ruptured Achilles tendon Achilles. That's come really different than broken back

What happened? It's all related. It's all connected dude. You don't know. You're not a doctor. It's on the back of the foot He goes from from the back to the butt to the foot when he said the back. He meant the back of the back side of the body But to the foot when he said the back he meant the back of the back side of the body Somewhere. Yeah, it wasn't being specific. I would say the spine. He would have he would have to turn around for you to see his injury That's what Gus is saying. Gus had just written him off forever because I got to be thinking you know broken back That's it. That's it right so he's out for the World Cup then he's out for a while. Where's the World Cup? It's the summer. Is it yeah? what the fuck's wrong with you South Africa South What happened to that really there was that American and soccer player and I can't remember it was the last world cup And it was like people were accusing him of being 14 years old. You know I'm talking about oh, yeah, he was really good

Yeah, Johnny Paley or something like that I don't know he failed a no one knows I'm talking about I don't know I think he was just some prodigy that they were grooming I don't think they were accusing him of being younger than he said he was They just like there were there were people who are it's the American team at the Chinese team But did we talk about before the the middle school kid that's been officially signed to USC? Have we talked about that? No, he can't officially be signed right? I mean it's I think it's like a pre-signed letter of intent Letter of intent or commitment letter. Yeah. Yeah.

But it was some, it was some, it was some, it was a little, yeah, quarterback. What? Yeah. Quarterback? You, you, you, you have no idea at that age. Well, that, that's the thing. Like, he signed a letter of commitment to them. I don't think they can reciprocate.

I could be totally wrong on this. Did they give him a thumb-assering? That's exactly what happened, right? It's like, it's like, for USC, it's like, they, it's for them, it them It's like they signed a prenuptial basically. No, they don't have to take them What it is is that USC Pete Carroll passed them a note that said will you be our quarterback check? Yes or no They did it in the lunchroom. That's how I did the kid check. Yes, and I was committed. Yeah, that's him David Sylas 13-year-old middle school quarterback. What? Kids hot

I bet looks like Andy Gibb. There's a reference no one's gonna get. How the hell can you tell what kind of skills that this kid's gonna develop? But he's going to USC. I bet the girls are lining up for him now. Fuck a future millionaire. Do you think middle school girls would have an appreciation for someone who's... No, but middle school girls have parents who have an appreciation for someone who's gonna be a fucking millionaire? Look at you. What kind of world did you grow up in. Or people are trying to marry off their daughters in middle school. Shit, they're not gonna be millionaires, they better hook up with one. Here, honey, you can build a better life.

Good. This will be sure, this will help us make sure we're not in some crappy nursing home. Do it for us. God USC. I mean, so Pete Carroll recruits this guy and the fucking takes off. Yeah, and then Pete Carroll's gone curls gone right we shouldn't talk about coaching We did we got into it didn't we came full circle somehow it somehow came back So do you guys see that crackdown two has an official release date now?

July 6th July 6th, so we'll be playing crack down. We're gonna get our crack down two playing interrupted by Comic Con this year God you guys love that game. Yeah. The game was really good. Huntin' those orbs, man, that took forever. That's one of the coolest achievements, I think, on the 360. You think Jeff's gonna remember he can lock on this stuff now? You ever play that game, so crackdown? Crackdown.

Oh, I loved crackdown. We make fun of Jeff all the time, because he played through the entire game without realizing you could pull left trigger to lock on this stuff. He beat the final block. He beat the entire game without ever locking on to anything. So imagine jumping off the top of the skyscraper and manually aiming while you're falling and shooting at stuff. That is impressive. It is. He has to be like the greatest gamer of all time. Or the worst. Not really. That's not how that works at all. So let me ask you a question. Yeah. How did you get your job at Xbox? Can we talk about

that at all? Yeah, that's a lot of fun. Yeah. You did you get your job at Xbox? Can we talk about that at all? Yeah, that's literally. Yeah, you were 13 years old. There was a promise ring involved and we corded for a while. Now, I know it's a lot of people in community roles. They always say luck. Yes. I mean, there is no real career path because I think at some point a community person has to be directly involved with the product. They have to know it. They have to really know it from the inside out. And a lot of people that get degrees and marketing and PR, they're fantastic at it, but I'm just stereotyping. They generally aren't the same people that are... Generally not gamers. Yeah, with this product specifically. Yeah, they're not gamers.

So, I'm obviously a gamer and I started in a contract role, propping content to marketplace, like demos and trials and gamer picks and themes and then I just kind of started doing competitive analysis stuff so I would have a PS3 and a Wii and a 360. And I would do reports on comparing the service. And some people think that's weird, but every company does it. Yeah, I didn't do the real deep stuff.

I just did it as a gamer. This is what I see. And it was my dream job, essentially, you know. And then eventually I just worked up to a community role is what I see. And it was my dream job, essentially. And then eventually, I just worked up to a community role in working with Major Nelson. That was over like a two and a half year period. How did you end up like, how did you end up

in that group specifically? I'd begged a lot. Is that how it works? So it was like an internal transfer at that point? Yeah, that's exactly what happened. So you were the annoying contract employee? Yeah, I want to work there. I want to work there over and over. There were emails and no, it worked out really well.

And I think people realized that, like, how passionate I was about the product and it was a good fit. Yeah, there's a very famous saying that luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity, which I think is probably pretty telling. So I knew a new one who says, or uses the word luck, that's usually the way things happen, right? You're just prepared for something. You do as good a job as you can and then you recognize an opportunity when it comes up. And you send 15 emails a day. Yeah. Like Andy do frame from Shoshank Redemption or that guy who just got out of jail that we were talking about last week. I don't think there were any emails in Shoshank Redemption. I could be wrong, but I think you may

have seen a different movie. Well, wouldn't you let the guy in prison be invented email in 1950? I know I would. But yeah, that sounds cool. So it sounds like you just, you know, get your foot in the door with a contract job and then I know your way to the top. What's your achievement score? Does that matter? Do you guys, I mean, is that part of it? Is that part of the job application? Do you have to write down what your gamerscore is? No, but they they generally ask it's funny in our org, especially in the Microsoft game studio side. Certain people you talk to if you start a conversation, the first thing they ask you is what are you playing right now? Really? Yeah. I mean, I would think that's really it would work all the time. Like, I would think it Xbox that you guys would all have Xbox is on your desk and We would have to interrupt you from playing games in order to get stuff done. How much yeah, how much of your day is gaming?

Lately not much unfortunately, but usually in our easily You guys sort of have a favorite game right now battlefield bed company, too Nice I'll drink to that I'm well known around the office for stabbing everybody. I'm so Gus. So sometimes I'll jump into a game with my friends. I'll get thrown on the other team at what will be an party talking and they get very upset, especially Stephen Toulouse, Steptoe. Like, he, uh, he keeps talking about it. Like, even on the Major Nelson podcast, he's like, he, uh, he talks about my cackling.

Because I'll start giggling, and he knows I'm behind him, and then I'll stab him, and I just let out this horrible cackling half. Because I mean, the stab animation in that game is probably slow enough as it is. The fact that you're able to fit in cackling in there somehow. I mean, I have to question this guys. Is that like a proximity thing?

You can hear people over chat or you can physically hear him in the next room. No, I think he said he was in party chat. Yeah, we're in party chat. Oh, you're in party chat together, okay? Yeah, the... Well, I went from Modern Warfare 2 where you have a bit of a... It's like an instant stab. Right, and that's the thing.

I think everybody is going through that right now. You know, we're, it was like that was a game. Everybody's coming from that game, but this game. And so it's like that's one of the glaring differences. Right. Is that stab? You know, it's just so different. Yeah, it feels like a second and a half animation.

Because you draw your arm up, but then you stab down. Yeah, it's just, it takes, it seems like it takes forever. Yeah, but still a great game. I want to set my ringtone as the little dog tag sound. Nice. I just want to fly my ringtone as the little dog tag sound. Nice. I just want to fly the little helicopter all the time. That's all I want to do. UAV.

I shot one down with the rocket launcher the other day. I was so fucking happy. That's like hitting a dime and floating in the air. Fucking sucks. Hitting a needle in a haystack with another needle in the sky. Still haven't played it. I finally finished Mass Effect though, so I'm done. You're still on the Mass Effect too, right?

Ah, yes, sort of, not really. Kind of. Kind of. Would you say you finished Mass Effect? I finished Mass Effect 1. How much? He 100% of it. How much of the game did you complete? I had 100%.

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You're done with the game at that point. You feel like you have this weird, I really do feel like I have closure. It's like, OK, I don't ever have to come back to this. The way my feelings is if you're marketing a game and I get that experience of I've gotten the 1,000 achievement points, I'm done with this game. OK, make the next one.

I will buy it Okay, big time breather my feeling you know, I obviously I feel differently about achievements and you guys do if I play through the campaign You know, and I'm a good gamer. I should probably get about 50% of the of the achievements and then playing some multiplayer I should probably you know easily, you know, you know, investing some more time maybe 80% and then the last 20% the last fifth should be the hard ones to get. I think you're right. I think I think it's a little too skewed right now. Like I can play through a game you know all the way through a campaign I can play some multiplayer and I can end up with 20% of the dude. That's cool. You're absolutely right. I feel like if you generally get through the main campaign you should at least get 50% of the team. You're absolutely right. I think you do. Not all of the time. Not at all.

I think you do. No, no way.. Not at all. I think you do. No, no way. I mean, it depends on the game has like collectibles or you know, things like that. But I would think most of the time you play through the campaign, you get about 50%. You're crazy. I'm not crazy.

I'm going to pull up my game record right now. You're not a good game. You're a bad example. I am a bad gamer. I'm pretty new to this. You plow through. It really depends on the style of game though. Sure.

I mean, it comes down to, like, if you play a traditional Japanese RPG, I mean, or I think BAN, that or even I played through that. And I don't think I got 50%. Well, I mean, you should be playing it. I know BAN was bad about that. Yeah, I know BAN was bad about that. In modern warfare, that's not, although I guess

if you're playing veteran, I'm still not convinced. If you play on play on veteran and that's all you do you complete the main campaign single player on veteran I I'm not convinced you get over 33% of these humans You know be careful though because I don't think that's right at all. Don't forget. I could be wrong Modern warfare two has zero multiplayer achievements. Nugged. Yeah, it's all campaign and I can look up because I just That's right. That's right. It's all I just did a straight run the modern campaign and I can tell you I think I have 50% of those guys I think Mass Effect 2 was done well. I felt like when I was done with it And I'm looking here. I got 42 out of 51 achievements and I played through that game only once You know, not really trying to get any achievements. I think that was that was done well

What are the craziest things about the 360 is that The thing that I bought four years ago is nothing like the thing that's on my shelf today. Oh yeah, this generation of gaming platforms is just insane. It's completely revolutionized how I think we view gaming platforms overall. I mean, I remember getting my super Nintendo

and that never changed. And then you know, I mean, I've owned every Nintendo console ever made and like you get them Nintendo 64 and they release a game like perfect dark and you play it But then if I remember correctly, you didn't get the full experience unless you went out and bought that little memory unit Right the expansion pack. Yes, there's for that star Fox 64. I believe yeah, and maybe Majora's mask Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was four megs of memory. It was yeah, it was for that in Star Fox 64, I believe. Yeah, maybe Majora's mask. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was four makes a memory. It was yeah, it was tiny I mean, even that go buy it at a pawn shop. I think it's still 12 bucks, which is more than most thumb drives It just doesn't make sense but now I mean

You're getting complete new experiences on consoles just through software Well, and I think that's important from a hardware manufacturer's perspective, because they want to give the console a longer lifespan in order to recoup money lost early on in the console's life. And I think by constantly providing these updates there, refreshing it, adding new features, and making it so they don't have to come out with a new platform as quickly. It's always astonishing to me that basically you're dealing with a box where it's like the hardware is the same. The hardware is the same, but it seems like

with different generations of games, they definitely get significantly better on using the same hardware. No, yeah, that's a trend that always happens. Is that developing? It seems like it's having learned how to use the hardware. Yeah, it seems like it's happening more now than what it used to, but I don't know.

Well, look at Halo to Halo 2. I mean, that was on the Xbox. And those two games were dramatically different. Yeah, I guess so. Well, I'm just thinking about Halo 3 and you look at what's going on with Reach. And you look at the detail. Wow. But then some people also hit their stride pretty early on.

You look at Epic. Gears of War is still a beautiful looking game. And Gears of War 2, yeah, it looked better, but it really wasn't, you know, that generational leap, like you're talking about like between Halo and Halo 2 on the original Xbox. Yeah, but arguably launch titles are always, you go back and look at launch titles and it looks like they're just... That's true. They're almost like safe development bets, essentially. And I think that's why Halo is so popular, the original one, because it didn't seem like that.

It was, you know, it was like the Super Mario that came with your Nintendo. It was just an incredible launch title. And that's what I mean, you know, solidified the platform and that franchise. God, I was so broke when the original Xbox launched because I bought the Xbox and four controllers. At the time, I had to buy a bundle. So I bought like Halo and I don't remember, I don't even remember what the other games I got were. Yeah, all I played was, I played the fuck out of Halo. Yeah, for years. I'm sorry, I played the fuck out of Halo. Yeah, I'm sorry I played the shit out of Halo That's much better But I think it shows a shift in general like you talked about the platform

They want to wait, you know a few years before coming out with a new platform I think that there's a shift now that the platform is no longer the hardware that the platform is Xbox live and What's going on behind the scenes and that the hardware that you're having yourself is just your current way to access that platform. It's almost like a cable box given to you by the cable company. Yeah or in you look at now like the Windows phone stuff that they're putting out. That's just another way to access the platform. Like cloud computing. Yeah don't say that. I won't like it if you say that if you say it that way.

You speak to what you saw, right? I wish the Xbox to the new Xbox stuff would go more cloud. I would like to have all my save games in the cloud. That would be nice. Like kind of like how steam does it? Yeah, you just log in. Yeah, that'd be cool. So if I carry around our memory cards.

It seems like that's the way it's going, right? I think so. Now I have to bring something up because I mentioned memory cards. So Zilla has something that I am very jealous of and I don't it's so rare. I don't even know if I can talk about it. Is it my epic beard? No, it's not your epic beard Damn it and when you're or your Guinness hat, which by the way St. Patrick said that a so happy St. Patrick did everybody who's wearing green Zilla has a rare item. He has a black chat pad for where his controller. And was it a prototype or was it just one of those ones that was rarely made?

It's just a color test. Every company does this when they make new peripherals. It's just they test out colors and manufacturing process. So this I mean, this is not something they're producing. I'm I actually took the picture when I when I mean, this is not something they're producing. I actually took the picture when I got the job or not long after I got the job. I'm kind of surprised I didn't get in trouble for it because, you know, rumors start. But it is just one of those things that we had in the back room from one of the accessories guys who I came to know pretty well and I begged them for it to go with my custom controller because I think you've guys seen it where I've taken three different controllers

and pieced them together so it's a Franken controller and you know I'm greedy so I was like I need a black chat pad for that. I would kill for a black chat pad and a black memory card. So if I go missing and then that's a couple hours it was burning. That's exactly right. I did you or if I recall correctly you got the black chat pad by trading him a gifball figure before they were out. Yes. That I had given you. I don't recall where I got it.

Wow. I can really think about this trading. You really show it away. You can really think about it. It can really be called something. It's just that black chat, black chat pad belongs to Todd McFarlane. I think about it. I found a link here from some people who I guess do like custom color modification on their Xboxes and they describe a process to paint your chat pad black and talk about the colors. It required you need to use to match the elite controller. Yeah, that wouldn't work for me. Okay. I would. I have someone to wear in terror myself would just eat through it. I know I ended up with like a blackish chat pad that's white showing through in lots of places duplicated color matte black No special technique to applying it take it slow light coats two or three

There you go now you're good. Thanks though All right, well now that I'm actually here at the podcast I'm impressed by Gus because he's talking but the speed at which he browsers and searches while we're talking Mind blowing. Well, we used to I mean we had talked about this a lot But we used to work at a call center and you know one of the things that you have to learn at a call center Is how to listen to like 20 different conversations while you're still doing your own thing and I keep up with what? What's going on at all times? It's like working at the drive-through. It's like working at a drive-through And an internet drive-through. I just feel like throwing out random topics and seeing how fast you can find something out.

You know one of our favorite sites that we always hit during the podcast is box office mojo and guess they just redesigned their site over there. Yeah I'm not a big fan of it. It's slowing me down. It's all it's just a bunch of white columns with nothing to delineate the columns. Yeah. So it's just a bunch of white with text. Yeah, actually the one I first noticed that I loaded the mobile version on my phone at home. Yeah, I thought my thought my phone was rendering the page wrong. I was like, oh, this fucked up. I thought the same thing here doesn't look like it's loading some kind of layer, right? Yeah, what was that site? Box office mojo is where we go to get all of our box office information. So if you ever hear us talk

about the budget for a movie or how much a movie made in the last week or what the 13th highest grossy movie in 1985 was We're usually unboxed off of the window while we're talking about that Which we I heard a crazy thing This week which is that Avatar is already coming out on DVD and blue ray. I know it's gonna be out in the middle of April Yeah, I know it's unbelievable that is unbelievable It seems like they're cutting their box their box office friends short because if they come out with that in April, the movie only opened in December. That's a four month run. Titanic was in theaters for 10 months. Titanic was making

$40 million a weekend like 15 weeks in. And why wouldn't you want to keep that in your back pocket until Christmas, you know? Right. It doesn't make any sense to me. So what week would this be Gus? And I can look up the actual box office here for Titan $600 million domestically by the way. I will bet you that during the holiday They will re-release like a limited edition version like in the theaters you're talking about Well on physical media. Oh It's probably smart. Okay, so Titanic came out in January. So let's give it another two weeks. This is week 12 that we're in. In mid-April, Titanic was still making between

11 and 15 million dollars a week at this point. We just wrapped up week 12 and avatar made 11 million dollars. I'm sorry to me, a weekend. That's what it was making. So not even a full week. Oh, okay. I'm looking at weeks. So what did the avatar make? Would make would you say you say would avatar made this weekend this past weekend It made 6.5 million and so it's already coming out on DVD and blu-ray. Huh? It was the number seven movie this past weekend It's yeah, that's crazy. It's also dropped a lot so many 1700 theaters I think I removed from a lot of i-maxes For the Alice in Wonderland. Yeah, that was a good movie But I think they're gonna pull Alice in Wonderland and then put Avatar back

And I think that was the strategy all along was to give Alice in Wonderland like two or three weeks. Yes But you're saying that totally makes sense to me. I mean, I Think I can see Avatar the thing I don't get though is Avatar here locally anyway Avatar was still selling out at the iMacs my family came to visit me and I tried to take him to see Avatar like on a Sunday I don't think it's pot like everything any narrative that's three day at that I max is always sold out. I guess forever. I mean, I even Batman that wasn't 3D, you know, that was sold out for just forever. Mm-hmm.

I have heard really good things about the Hubble 3D thing they've got I max now. Yeah, is that out yet? I thought that was just plain here at Southwest. Is it actually plain in I maxes yet? No, I didn't know. I mean, pre screening I max stuff at festivals. I think so. I think that was like a Southwest Southwest thing. Look at? No, I didn't know. Pre-screening iMac stuff at festivals. I think so. I think I was like self-by-self-wise thing. Look at iMacs. I'll grow up.

Who knew? No, but I had read about it maybe even like two weeks beforehand. What's the Kevin Pereira? Am I pronouncing that correctly? The person who stands next to Olivia Munn. I guess he chose that. He tweeted that he had seen it and that you should find any excuse in your life to go see it Which is you know that guy I tend to like the things that that guy likes including ghosts So I would definitely take that as a good recommendation

Now how do you guys feel about 3d in general? I'd like movies games any entertainment experience. I feel like it's gimmicky and I think it's I'm hoping it's a fat I'm really uncomfortable with having to wear glasses already the fact you know I already have to wear glasses is what I was bitch about this is my problem having to wear glasses on top of my glasses is fucking terrible I think the fact that these movies are making as much as they're making makes it inevitable that there's gonna be more of it well I had always hoped that you know it was such a difficult process and the technology was so you, difficult to deal with that it wouldn't become a big thing, but I think

James Cameron supposedly changed a lot of that with Avatar and helped miniaturize it and make it more. Anything is going to make that amount of money that they're going to figure it out, right? Yeah. But, yeah, the only tribute of the Hunter. It's a Cess to 3D, you know what I mean, which, I don't know, you know, up was I just went 3D and I see people going crazy about upping and, you know, an mean which I don't know you know up up was I was one 3D I don't see people going crazy about Uping and you know an all new kind of movie. I guess it's hard

You know, I don't know. I feel like that if I saw Avatar and it wasn't 3D and I know I'm probably alone in this I'm not sure I would like it nearly as much but I Think here we talked about this a couple weeks ago and Gus and I are essentially the same opinion which is we call this stuff 3d but it's really not. It's a 2d image you're looking at. No it's it's fake. They just cut it in the layers and right. So it's fake 3d. So I like 3d a lot when it comes and it's going to be holographic and on your desktop and that'll be really cool. Like can you imagine playing an RTS where you can like turn it and you can actually see the buildings and it's in 3d

in a some kind of you're like in the holodic Yeah, you're not that big you know to me, but if you had a holographic display and you can actually see things that'll be that'll be awesome You know as long as you don't have to wear glasses As long as you're all right as long as it's not this fake 2D thing it's actually a 3D image that you're looking at I haven't heard any technology that doesn't involve glasses You know, it's got to have the glasses to work basically, but the way you would do it, like if you have the holographic display, like what Bernie's talking about, like if you have an RTS, like here, and you like almost like a big chessboard, you could do that if you have like multiple cameras, or multiple projectors. Is anybody producing that?

No, no, no, no. Yeah, people are working holographic stuff, sure, but I mean, it's, you know, that's still always away. No, it's one of those things you never know. It's like all of a sudden one day it'll be here. And how do we live without this? You know, like HD or something like that. There was always out there DVDs or discs, you know.

And then suddenly they were here and you can't live without them. But I think you'll still wear glasses with those kind of displays just so that when you actually turn the display in the wrong way and fire the lasers into your eye and burn out your back. You'll have protective goggles, like a welding mask. You'll have to wear it. That's going to get worse. Oh yeah. The future sounds wonderful. It does. It sounds dangerous and exciting. Maybe you can have like gene therapy. So your

cornea gets like the polarized coating on them directly. You can be like like that. Vin Diesel. Yeah. And what is it? Oh pitch black. It's black. I was just a perfect Head his eyes turned into mirrors. Yeah, what did they have that had a thing they called it? What they call it? Was it glassing? It was a glassing. Yeah, I think it was glasses. Yeah That movie. Okay. I'm embarrassed that I know that man, we went to Emerald City, Comic Con last week For we were in the Halo waypoint booth for exactly one hour, which was weird to go to a con and be there for just a short Period, that sounds fucking wonderful. Yeah Joel was there. I was there like maybe two or three. Okay, I can't remember Bracket brag about it. Why don't you?

In and out and but it's funny because as soon as Bernie left major Nelson was there funny because as soon as Bernie left, Major Nelson was there. So. That's right. It's a joke. I just missed him. But that was an incredible con experience because of all the cons that I've been to,

that was one of the only ones that actually focused on comics. Like when you talk about comic cons, they're no longer about comics in any way. Yeah, that one really felt like, I would tell Bernie it felt like to me, like maybe the San Diego Comic Con 1985 What was just World War Con Jeff and I a few years ago went to Wondercon in San Francisco

And that was like 100% a comic convention really and we did fucking terrible there Because they're you're not a comic and we were not a comic. We were a total bad fit We have not come back But the crazy thing was was that you went there for a day, right? So yeah, I went the day after you were there, so Sunday. There are no big booths. They're all just a lot of the smaller 10 by 10 booths, like the standard size booths, but there's just rows and rows and rows of them.

And every one of these, there's a guy or, you know, a small company with just stacks of graphic novels out there. And you can walk down the aisle, see probably a hundred different franchises or IP or whatever you want to call it. And they all look awesome and they all look better than what I saw on the cover of Marvel Comics growing up as a kid. Wait, so it's all like independent comics?

Yeah, you've never heard any of these things. You can't believe the amount of stuff that's out there. Well, that's crazy. I thought it was like, just resellers. I was like, why am I going to buy Captain America from you? I can buy it from that guy for 25 cents cheaper. Although it does seem like everyone has the, there is a franchise that everyone has,

like some variation of like the devil girl thing. I don't know, it's like, everyone's got one of those. Everyone has something that's related to Satanism or steampunk. Yeah, like they have their one niche market. Yeah. And they all have to touch that title in some way. But yeah, but it was amazing. It's just like I couldn't even,

I couldn't even tell you all the different things that I saw just walking down one of those. And I mean, it was crowded. I mean, they pulled a lot of people. So that's cool. Yeah, and there was a lot of Halo artists and former Halo artists that were there in like Artis Alley too. I hope it's a thing that continues to grow, you know, I hope it's not a thing like baseball cards in the late 90s or whatever where it was like

Explod and in popularity and and then drew back, but I don't know it's It definitely seems like it's popular right now. Well, we have a friend who works in the comics industry and we went to a comics party a comic con lecture, San Diego comic con the big one and I and we went to a comics party a comic con lecture stand you come come to the big one and uh... i it was weird to be a party was all just comic industry people and i asked them i said you know you guys this is called comic on but it's all seems like movie stuff and now a lot of video game stuff as well it's there like an undercurrent among the comic people you don't like this they said no there's no undercurrent there's no subtext it is the text they

can't stand it they can't stand it. They've essentially been pushed out of their own calm that they've made. And they become like this like side show essentially to the main attraction. Well, like you were saying at Emerald City Comic Con, there was a emphasis on the indie guys and these obscure titles, which I love, but I can't read a superhero comic now because they're all the same thing. I mean, oh, here's a superhero and he either dies and comes back to life, or he has to fight a dude that is exactly like him, but the evil version for no reason. Yes. And that drives me crazy because you know, 10 years ago, when like superheroes were fantastic and now they're just, feels like they're rehashing the same ideas.

This is, does it seem like once a movie comes out, like a major movie comes out, it really just like steam rolls, the whole genre into what the movie was about, or I don't know, I actually don't follow comics that closely, but it seems like... Or I wonder if everyone who makes a comic now is like, what's the best way to make this so we can get picked up and turn into a movie? I don't know. Do you think so? I don't follow comics at all, I'm talking to my ass. makes a comic now is like what's the best way to make this so we get picked up and turned into a movie? I don't know. Do you think so? I don't follow comics at all and talking to my ass. To me it's always surprising the stuff the graphic novels that do get turned into movies. Well like that Bruce Willis movie we talked about last week surrogates.

Oh right. Was that a graphic novel? It was a graphic novel beforehand. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like I'm probably this could be totally stupid when I'm about to say but I feel like when I saw all of that stuff, you put your side of tent probability. Stop man, never do. But it's like, it seems like the way that Iron Man was depicted before the movie had sort of, I don't know, variances to it. It seems like now the way he's depicted every single artist drawing is exactly like how

he appeared in the movie. Oh, yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah, like Harry Potter. If you were going to draw Harry Potter today, he doesn't quite look like the guy that was on the cover of the novel to begin with, right? Right. He looks a lot more like Daniel Radcliffe suddenly.

Yes, exactly. I think that happens. It's just a branding thing, because people become familiar and comfortable with that. And a money thing, because everyone wants to cash in what's there, right? Exactly. Yeah.

But that happens with everything. Like, I just saw the road, the Vigo Mortensen movie, the post-apocalyptic one. Oh, yeah, right. And I was talking, I forget who I was talking with, but they said, I was talking about the movie, and they said, well, you should definitely still read the book, because the book's great.

So I went to go buy the book, and the original version is gone, and the only version that's left is the movie version, essentially, with Vigo Mortensen in the cover. The text is still the same but you know they've just rebranded it to... So you recognize it? Yeah you know. We've got to cash in on that marketing. I mean, just spending all that money marketing in the movie with those images. Why not just put on your cover your book? I mean I really get the feeling that books more than anything else are sold by their

cover art. I really do. Like if you have a really good cover art on a book, that can make a book a hit. So I think it seems like it seems like comic books are the one thing that is not going to lend itself to like the new iPad or the Kindle or anything like that. That's the one thing where you want the physical piece of paper where you want, I don't know, maybe I'm not. No, I want the digital version. Do you? Because I don't go to comic shops and buy them monthly. Because I have such a support. What happens? I have a short attention span.

Sure. So I read it and I go, what's going to happen next? Well, what happens to all the people that have been like stockpiling? I'm with you, Zilla. Comments and what. Like in their basement. What happens to the value of those? They go up.

I guess they do. Because they won't be there. There won't be as many of them because everyone will be looking for digital, digital copies. But at the same time, it's like we will we just talked about there's all these independent artists, all these independent companies making all these independent. Well, unfortunately, Joe, those are just not popular, you know? I mean, you could, you could if you were a collector, your best bet is to probably to buy those things and then hope that artist then hits really big. Also, those people can find their own way to distribute

through an iPad or I'm not sure about how the Kindle works, but if you want, I'm sure they can figure out an iPad distribution where they just have high quality images that they can sell that you can navigate through like a little gallery. The price start doing with the music industry picked up a couple of years ago is they'll release the digital, but then for the collectors, they'll release it on physical media, but you'll get like an art book and just the bonus features for the true fans. Yeah, kind of like how video games have standard release and collectors addition.

Yeah, and they jack the price up, you know, level because you're a collector and you'll fall for it. I was going to say it seems like that's dropped off a bit, but I guess I'd just stop paying attention because Modern Warfare 2 had a pretty ridiculous one. With the NVGs. BioShock 2 also had one with the LP with all the music and the posters and stuff.

Oh, I ordered that day one. As soon as I saw it had vinyl on it, I must have that. I think the coolest things that games do now is the Avatar Unlockable Awards. That's pretty cool. Is that, are you liking that? Because that's one of the things you didn't like about achievements.

I love that. I like being rewarded and getting something, not just an arbitrary number. So something that you can showcase. It's like, oh, look at my Avatar. I obviously did that. And it's just a quick way to look. I don't have to drill down and go through menus and see you know a list of a list of shit It's like I can choose you know four or five things that I've done and have those displayed for everyone to see you know at a quick cleanse

See that's the wild player in you. That's the wild player in me a hundred percent You need you need to wait like walk around like I want my tier seven avatar outfit. Oh here we go He got the while looking as big as a huge small. Talk about it. It's like, I want my avatar avatar to have a mount. Hmm. So has that stuff where they destroy the world of warcraft? Is that happening yet? No, no, that's when cataclysm comes out. They haven't announced a release date for that yet. Oh, so that's way, long way away. Okay. It'll be interesting. You know, I feel like I should go around and, you know, capture video and images of the world as it exists before they destroy it.

I'm sure you'll be able to find that stuff. I want my own perspective though. How you do? Yeah, the place I went to. Who's going to catalog the fucking echo islands off of Sengen Village? That's where I grew up. If you look at somebody else's gallery, it's like, Who's this dickhead in the middle of my picture

It's like you're looking at somebody else's vacations. Yeah, I hear you Fucking Photoshop myself in there. I'm gonna bet $10 you're not gonna do that. No, I'm not gonna do shit I'll talk about it and then when the expat your rolls are I'd be like oh well fuck it They'll probably though you could probably add it for like $5 a month to your account back to the old places as they used to be That's funny. I mean, I think, right? No, I doubt that. There's always been discussion about having what they call vanilla servers that are the world as it existed before the expansions.

Yeah. Well, you know, level 60s the cap and everything sucks. It's like that in anything. There's a weird feeling that, you know, you can't control the way the world evolves right the real world so in digital environments where social media where they're a facebook or like us with box office mojo

there's this feeling that you have to resist evolution in change of things and you want to go back to the way that things were but you really don't you know you really don't want them the way they were everything sucked everything looks better in retrospect, in your memory. Right. And you're attaching some kind of nostalgia to it. And yeah, there's definitely some change that, I mean, people can make bad changes for

sure, you know. But like you talk about the Xbox, if we go back and look at the original Bladed dashboard that they had, that's not the NXC, you wonder, why did they ever put up with this, you know what I mean? Or like, you know, in wow terms, it's like, wow, I used to run molten core once a week and there was a 2% chance that an item I wanted would drop and then I have to roll against 39 other people to get it. Yeah.

Not at all like that anymore. Or it's like, you just stopped going to some of these places after a while, you know what I mean? I play while every day, but I haven't been to here in Mill, is that a place? Yeah. And I can look at me. People still go through there. You know, well, you know, like you as a player though, you have to mean so things have to change and things do have to evolve to keep things fresh. And no, I'm not hinting that we're changing our website in any way. I don't want people getting upset. We're adding mounts to Red versus Blue.

And having a petition. We're raising the level cap on the Red Army. Yeah, now you'll be able to go to 101 versus 99, level 99. Now speaking of change in World of Warcraft, what are the chances of you guys moving on to a new MMO completely? Well, we didn't move on to Star Trek and talking about that.

That didn't seem to hit, and we had talked about playing it. We don't really play MMOs. I mean, we've all played wow at some point. And ultimately, and I'll just say it, the problem with Star Trek is that, you know, since we're a video production company, we have almost exclusively all max for our editing and Star Trek didn't have a back client.

Yeah, but we can do a boot PC. Yeah, I mean, I'm doing that for the Starcraft 2 beta, it's just a pain in the ass. A lot of listeners were sending us links to a zombie survival MMO. That we should try out. That's not really, I don't think it's too well known MMO. Sounds like a great idea. Yeah, it does sound like a great idea.

It doesn't. We were talking about it as though it would be a good idea. Hypothetically, and they said, well, this thing exists and you should go play it's this. And I was like, that's awesome. And then didn't click the link. You can see it. I stay away from MMOs. I have a feeling that that's a hole that I can very easily fall into. That's why I never actually get an account unwell. I just use my 10 day when they send me, hey, come on back to wow, free 10 days. I did that.

I played in the open beta and then once it weren't live, I knew I couldn't do it because I was in college and graduating is kind of a big deal. Yeah. Kind of a big deal. It's a big milestone where you milestone in your education is to finish. No, I knew guys who didn't finish because they were so addicted to while.

Everybody knows the guy like that, right? Yeah. And no guy in the room like that. I didn't finish. OK. It's one thing to just decide to not finish college. I mean, that is your decision. But to just be told that you can't finish

because you've been spending like 80 hours a week playing while. Well, they just need to offer degrees in while, and then we've solved the problem. What's the most time you've ever law, the game you've played the absolute most of? Probably Unreal Tournament 2004. On PC? On PC. I'm an Is it PC? On PC.

I'm an old school PC gamer. Yeah. So I used to play competitively in New York. I would just go to random LAN parties and try to win stuff and money. And yeah, that game easily 40 to 60 hours a week. Wow. On top of playing other games, like Half Life 2 would come out. I'd play through the single player and then jump right back into Unreal Tournament.

Now, was Unreal Tournament where they had, was it 2004 where they had that popular game type where they just had the one shot, one kill, shock rifles? Oh yeah, those were amazing. Yeah, that was a fun game type. It was essentially just hit somebody their dead. They'll set a vehicle to that one, right? Yep. Well, something that, uh, Unreal Tournament did that a lot of other games didn't pick up on as you could actually do, uh, acrobatic type.

Yes. Lose where you could, uh, double jump, you could wall jump. And they used me this video. I can't find it on YouTube anymore is this clan basically all they did was stunts. And they didn't modify the game at all. This was all in engine and it was amazing. That's cool. Some of the coolest stuff you've seen, and they would shoot missiles and this bio-rifle

across the map and hit these guys. They just made it look so easy. So it was like, this is like a video showing how bad ass they are? Yeah, yeah. But it's not like the Counter Strike, you remember the old school like Counter Strike videos and you look at that today and you're like that game looks terrible. Yeah. It's like, just, it's guys made out like four polygons running around.

Yeah. It's, yeah, it's amazing. You're a big Halo fan too. Oh, I love, dude, I have two Halo tattoos. Yeah, your cover, Zilla is covered, head to toe pretty much in tattoos of different games that he likes. Most of your tattoos game game themed? All of them are. All everything one. Yes. And your most recent one is from Skate 2 right? Yep. I have the Kildet Skull Crown logo on my arm. What's your favorite with your

favorite game on the 360? I would say hello three you should check out Hi impact halo that or they're guys to do that with your time I they just do they focus entirely on tricks and jumps in halo like when you're running up On the ramps say on black out how to jump up and get on the ledge and then jump up So you don't like walk up the ramps or anything like that wasn't there a service like years ago in halo two came out We saw like some guy would teach you how to do that. You could pay him. Oh, that's right.

He was like a tutor at Halo 2. And you could pay him and you would teach you how to do all the jumps and everything. I had like a couple of demo videos on his website. Was he like a 12 year old kid? He was pretty young, based on the way his voice sounded. So that's probably who you want to learn from, honestly. Yeah.

The game that I played the most of by far was Halo 2. I mean it was just I would and that was when we were making reverse blue and I was just playing it constantly and then I would you know make videos in it as well. So that was crazy. I must have played I want to say 2500 matches in Halo 2. Wow. I think Gavin's got 5,000 in there. He's got a ridiculous amount. It's really crazy. You know, I look him up right now. I'm not sure. I might have more than GAV, which means which is really embarrassing because I'm not that good. No, no, you're not at all. No, no, no.

But that was the first, to be honest, that was the first game I really delved into with Halo 2. You're also terrible at bad company too, by the way. I know. I look you up. Okay. Your skill level is 10. I'm a 10. Out of 10? No. No. Sadly no. For comparison Jack skill level is like 135. Oh, don't compare me to Jack. He's been playing the kill out of that game. I think mine is like 65 or so. Yeah, I'm terrible. Well, I'm sure you guys go through the same thing where if people know your gamer tags and they end up in a match with you, they all likely assume that you're amazing at video games. Do you guys get that? I try to keep mine anonymous. No, they pretty much know. If they know our names, they know

we're not good at video games. Yeah, we're fucking terrible. Except a bad company too, where I'm pretty good. Well, do you have anything to tell any of you as an Xbox live employee when you when you get online? My gamer card actually has a blue watermark. Uh-huh. That says an XC launch team. And I have some avatar clothes that you can't get anywhere else. Really? Like what? Blackjack pad.

Yeah. Major Nelson T shirt, that kind of thing. Actually, I can't remember. There's stuff from the beta of an XC that you can't, they never put up on the service. So, like, I have a certain shirt, a halo shirt that I have multiple colors of, and they only released like one color because that was like going to be the popular color. So in a way, you would have to kind of know that, yeah, that's a rare item. See, that is the tough part about, as the Avatar catalog grows,

is like, you don't really, you see stuff on fields like where'd you get that you know and they even introduce the service on gamer picks where you could mouse over online and it would tell you where they got it like if I had a gamer pick and I'm like oh where'd that person get that gamer pick that's a really cool one this back you know before avatars you can go on like Xbox.com, pause your gamer card mouse over the picture and I would say like for our stuff I would just say versus blue. So at least I had some idea where it came. Yeah, for the longest time you had that rooster head as your avatar, and knowing you where you got that from. That was from...

It was like one of the original picture packs or something? No, no, no, it was from Outpost. What is that? Outpost Kalokey? Kalokey, 20XX? Yeah, that's arcade game. I mean, I played for a long time. I had 50% of my games played on the 360 arcade games and 50% were you know

Quonon called retail games or full games, you know Well, you buy like every arcade game that comes out don't you? I pretty much do I pretty much do yeah Well now I'm bringing this full circle because we talked about the community of that yesterday Did you guys try any of the arcade games we had there? Yeah, I'd never heard of that a snoopy like a flying game. Yeah, like the dog fighting game. That was pretty cool. Dog fighting. That's funny. Um, yeah, it reminds me a lot of Crimson sky. Yeah, it was like a Crimson sky with peanuts characters. Yeah. And what was the toy soldiers one? Is that?

Toy soldiers is out. Is it out? God, that one. See, that's the things. Like, there's so much going on. I can't even keep up with anything. And then that risk factions game also looked really cool But that was that was back in the quarter. I like risk risk. Yeah, it's risk. Yeah, but Xbox live arcade has like a slight Span on it. I don't remember exactly like the the art direction is pretty cool. Yeah, it looks really really great I sent you that story the other day, Bernie right about the guy about the Jedi Knight who got fired from the job center in the UK. Yep. The what? I couldn't be happier that that guy got fired. Apparently there's a 31 year old Jedi Knight who got fired because he wouldn't take his robe off at the job center at work. Because it's part of his religion.

It's part of his religion. Because Jedi is officially a recognized religion in the UK since 2001 yeah, and so then he got fired and then he complained and then they apologized isn't a bigger questions involved in the story than what you're talking about right? Does there like how does jet out? Is that become a religion like something that we all know? Is it real? I think it's kind of the point that enough people believe in it and that you know a large No, no, no, is that the point? Is that the point? Is that what makes a religion enough people buy into it? I mean if that's I think the people who I coca religion who tried to make it a religion We're trying to make a point by saying like here's something that a lot of people believe in well I know yeah, I know that's the point they're trying to make right

Obviously, but I mean is it enough? I mean if you're the government is that enough for you to go? Okay, is that what makes a religion? I don't just a government you say it religion her Her bot or I guess the Jedi's boss wrote an apology and said we are committed to provide a customer service Which embraces a diversity and respects customers religion? Yes, because if the government endorses it, then you have certain rights and texts. No, you're also applying the rules of this country to the UK. It's not necessarily true, not every country protects religion. No, but I'm sure there are certain laws and certain, you know, endorsements by the government. There's got to be, right? Otherwise, it's a point. There's just so many questions there are certain laws and certain endorsements by the government.

There's got to be, right? Otherwise, it's a point. There's just so many questions that come up, though. I mean, does their insurance cover the midi-chlorian count? Does it? Exactly. Exactly. You know, I mean, like, say there was a thing in the early 90s

where the internet was coming up, was that universal life church, right, where you could just apply to it and become like a minister or whatever. And like, that's what everyone did, right? You know, but it's, I don't know, I'm fascinated. I did that. I know it. I did it too. That's why I performed the wedding ceremony for Jeff and Griffin.

See, you're the first person to take it to the next level. And then I also performed the wedding ceremony for Griffin's brother. Did you really? Yep. Did you charge anything? Nope. They bought me dinner. That's so bizarre because a picture just came up recently and like just randomly popped

up in my desktop of you in your ministers outfit which was a big black three amigos Mariachi costume and a huge mustache why am I the only one who's like interested in this is it me me? What's that? Isn't that weird? I don't understand. About the Jedi in New York. Yeah, it is. I brought it up.

Well, the UK actually has a fairly high relative percentage of atheists. It's not an overly religious country. If I could just have the Wikipedia numbers up here. Well, that's why the Puritans got the fuck out and came over here, right? In the United Kingdom, these are only European countries that are sampled here. Well, that's why the Puridans got the fuck out and came over here, right? In the United Kingdom, these are only European countries that are sampled here. In the United Kingdom, only 38% of respondents said they believe in a God. Wow. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, and as opposed to Turkey, which was 95%. No wonder they had trouble getting in the EU. Yeah, Poland, the lowest actually on here was Estonia. 16% of the people said they,

only 16% of the people said they believe in God. And the New New Zealand just cut a cut a glimpse of my costume. Where they would want to believe in God's probably. I've actually seen the picture Gus has that but the one that Bernie has is pretty epic. Yeah. You look like Mario. Not real. You know, jumping over mushrooms. Not really. Like one fall bed or something. I don't know what you're like. You know, if Mario wasn. It really looks like one-fall beds or something. I don't know what you're playing with in this photo. If Mario wasn't Italian American, he would be a mariachi. He would have sat in mustache.

It was fucking hot. It was June, the middle of June. And I was wearing that fucking heavy. I was blackouted. I was dedicated. That was commitment. It was so hot like the adhesive for the mustache kept melting and falling off. I had to reapply that thing like five times. Hmm, I just tried to interesting fact on Twitter. What's that? Steven to lose.

Somebody from your neck of the woods, there's Illa. Yes. Jess wrote trivia. Tron Legacy's director, Joseph Kaczynski, if I'm reading that correctly, Kaczynski, directed The Gears of War, Mad World Commercial, and he also directed the Halo 3 starry night commercial. It's a very interesting pedigree.

I would not have known that that guy directed those two commercials. That those two commercials were directed by the same person. I thought that Gears of War commercial was phenomenal. I thought the starry night commercial for Halo 3 is one of the best Halo things I've ever seen. Did you domain the effects for that starry night commercial, right? Well, I think he directed it, but yeah, I think they did it. I mean, they created everything you see. It's visual effects for that starting night commercial, right? Well, I think he directed it Yeah, I think they did it. I mean, you know, they created everything you see It's visual effects in that. Oh, no, I'm not this county. I'm just saying they did the effects. Oh animated piece But yeah, it's that in the the odst commercial. I'm gonna be directed that if that guy'll pop up anywhere

Rupert Sanders. He's no he's a has a very huge. We talked about it before. He has a very impressive Library of commercial work. Yeah, nothing was pretty cool We were at the waypoint, but it actually brought in the ODST costumes from that commercial, from that shoot. How did they look? I don't know if I'd want to see something like that in real life, you know? It seems like it was real cool in the commercial, and I don't want to ruin that illusion and actually see it. Yeah, lighting and post-production helped a lot, but there's still very cool. There's like nothing that I've ever seen, except from like a handful of items that look good in real life right yeah I

mean like I got to look at the actual Wolverine claws when I was on the the first set of X-Men and those looked like unbuilt perfect and they came in its box it was like a stained box it was like it was fantastic I don't understand how would they look I mean they they come out of his hand They yeah, there's a bar. There's a metal bar Yeah, hold on to and then they have these subtle things that go in between like put them on End of his knuckles. Yeah, right and those look like just I don't know they look like That would be a tough item to then sell you know for like side show collectibles because Clearly you're making a weapon.

They get out of plastic or something like that. They could do some actual damage too. And then you pick them up and they have the weight, you know, that you think that they would have, which is like, you know, rare for props, you know. But that sentence me though, because then you watch the origins movie, that's what it's called, right?

Well, Verine Origins. Yes. The weapon actually an X-head. And his claws looked so bad. But maybe it's just me, but when they came out, like the bone? The bone? They looked like they didn't do post-processing on them. They just look bad.

Yeah, but the bone ones you were talking about when they were metal eventually. When they were metal. Yeah, well, when they come out, they're CG, right? So yeah, there were some scenes in there where they didn't cut away and they probably should have, and then cut back to a practical prop in his hand. Yeah, I mean that movie came out what a year ago you have something like Avatar which actually looks really good.

And then you have these metal claws that just I don't know. Maybe they removed all the work that the effects house did that leaked the movie. Like I'll fuck those guys who are just going to remove all of their effects from the movie. They're going there portfolio. I wonder if that did affect some of the final stuff they did on that movie. They were just like, well, shit, you know, this thing's been leaked.

Didn't they supposedly change it up a bit, like change the ending or something? I don't know. Yeah, fuck that already. In the original endings, it will be like, become president. And they just had to back off of that. Unfortunately, unfortunately, I never saw the movie.

That movie wasn't, is there anyone in this room was a supporter of that movie? Well, I'm a big Leaf Shriver fan only because I think if like I get in really good shape, the best I could possibly look is Leaf Shriver. That's the best look I could pull off, you know, or maybe like a half retarded Ben Affleck. I was thinking I was thinking maybe get to that level. I was thinking of Vincent D'Nofrio. Almost into my workout. Almost into the best case scenario here. So you know who I looked like the most when I was in high school? What was that?

They said I looked like Neil Patrick Harris. I fact for a while, they even called me Dugi. So if you want to see what the road less traveled for Neil Patrick Care is going to be, just look at me. He could have turned out like this. I'm sure that's a sobering thought for him. Wherever he is, he just got to chill up his spine. He's staying away from the craft service table at this point. I think all shapes today is what he's saying.

Man, I don't want that beard. So what else is going on, Mr. Goose? Apparently this week, or this past week, at South by Southwest, Robert Rodriguez showed off a teaser for the new Predators movie. I heard good things. Yeah, and I saw it. I found a big, I guess he also really stood on the internet.

You can watch it. It looks really cool. I can't wait to see it. The weird thing about it to me though is that I haven't seen anything, but I read reports of it. And they were talking about the different classes of Pred predator that are shown in the trailer. They talked about that as well. And how Rodriguez is apparently introducing the fiction that there's different types of predators now like fast predators and stealth

predators. And I guess just like the bookworm scientist predator or something I don't know. Somebody had to invent the spaceships for them. And I had that same feeling hearing that that I had when I first heard that Valve was putting in the super zombies or the special infected into left for dead, it just didn't seem right. But that turned out to be a really great choice. It's also reminiscent. I mean, we don't know much about it. We just know what we've seen in the multiplayer trailer, but it's also reminiscent of like the loadouts in Halo Reach, where it looks like Spartans have different abilities based on the loadouts they choose. Yeah, I don't know if I want to apply gameplay balance to a narrative, you know, but I don't

know. We don't have to worry about balancing a narrative in a movie. It's like, hmm, the stealth predators overpowered. We need to nerf them in the next patch. Well, no, I mean, I was with you on those zombies with Valvara. I was like, I'm not sure this is a good idea because they're not zombies anymore but man the game plan that games phenomenal right but I have that feeling about the movie and I don't know you know I'm the same way like when I see when I see

the jetpacks and halo I don't have a negative or positive feeling about seeing that I just look at it and I haven't played it and all I can say when I see it is that is remarkably different. But although I have absolute faith that the thing that Bundy does better than anybody else is exceptional gameplay. So I just know it's gonna work. I just have faith in this game. I'm total. I want to play it. Yeah. When I saw that trailer I almost fell out of my chair because I used to play a lot of Wolfenstein enemy territory. Yeah. And it was the World War II game but they had a jet pack. from Stein enemy territory. Yeah. And it was the World War II game, but they had a jet packs. And that completely changed multiplayer for me.

See, jet packs make everything better. Exactly. You know, there's a company, I found a company in Australia that is made by... Except Marissa Miller. We talked about this. Jet packs do not make Marissa Miller better. They don't make supermodels, but I must have missed that.

Because then they get away from saying. There's a company in Australia. I'll show you the link that's manufacturing jet packs. Oh, yeah, I heard about that. That's like $75,000. Yeah, and it sounds like you you're in a blender It's the loudest sound ever. It's the it's a beta test. What do you want? It's like how big an attention-horr could you be? You know what I mean? You're flying around and everyone around you within a mile can't hear anything else The dudes on the motorcycles. You know, we got to get one for shorts now We got to find a way to incorporate it I figured what we could do is this would be a good rig for the camera

Catch the camera. We'll just take touch one expensive item to another expensive item that's filled with rocket fuel and see what happens It looks like it looks like the guys wearing two turbines pointed at the ground. It looks Like really dangerous just to navigate in the thing at all it looks so how jets are needed to hold the thing up right into it so like I mean I can see this thing at all I just saw like the headline are they are they like it was like the blurb of the company was like it was our we met in 1980 and the goal of the company was to produce the first the world's first jet pack that didn't kill you know like we're successful so do you have to be careful like when you

land that like there's no one below you like will you burn up people or like They show they have a video of like the the the tests and it's like dudes with ropes and stuff and like Just everyone like he starts it up and everyone just like takes that you know three step back Sort of deal. It's like yes, it totally works It's not dangerous at all and what what kind of company history is that? I mean, I mean, we got together in 1980 and decided we were going to make a jetpack. I mean, I'm sure a lot of companies start that way,

but they end with, and then we sobered up. And then we went back to work. They end with, then my mom told me to clean my room. Then after I cleaned the room, we met again in the clubhouse. How do you get venture capital for something like that? Well, crazy. No, it's funny that you say that too, because when you go through the bio, it was like, we first decided that we were going to start making a coming with jet packs.

And then like 10 years later, it's like, we convinced some investors, and they convinced some fun, some equity fund that's based out of New Zealand is something to endorse this. We were very drunk at the time. We convinced these guys. Exactly right. This invention only come out of Australia. You said New Zealand. Well, no, no, the backers are from New Zealand, the company's house. Oh, okay. No, that's it. Well, you can understand why New Zealand won't have an interest. Rocket powered sheep. I think it's the future. Well, that's the thing.

It's like they had plenty of subjects to test it out on first, right? You've got to get to gonna colonize the moon you have to get the sheep there some how many how many rocket packs was sheep attached to They go through before it was like they okay, we can drop a human to this Pictures of UFOs in New Zealand somebody was saying is that way a sheep? They just have random craters and their hillside with wool around the outside. Then they saw flock and they were like a mother fucker. Test out the tape. Holy cow. You know, there should be we should do a whole award ceremony just for arcade games that come out during the year. But guess, weren't you telling me about a model rocket that you had as a kid where you could put a hamster in a little compartment

and you know a great idea. For the record I never owned that model rocket. That's the only purpose of hamster. Isn't it? All the displays on it like all the on the outside of that rocket. It's the only reason you showed you putting like grasshoppers or bugs in it but you know everyone fucking bought that and put a hamster in. The only reason to get a hamster is to like to teach your child death. Like that's the first step in teaching your child death is getting a hamster is to like to teach your child death like that's the first step in teaching your child death is getting a hamster am I am I wrong I never I never actually owned that rocket but it seems like a cool idea I when I was a kid to put a hamster set up like to have a compartment and like

launch stuff I never thought to put a hamster I wasn't fucking Ted Bundy or God that's fucking demanded you are like the weird neighborhood kid. We were talking. Can you still do that? Is that like a national security risk now? Like launching stuff up in the air? No, right? Do you remember how this came about? This came about because somebody who attends the local university, the University of Texas at Austin, came by to visit us. He's

a Red versus Blue fan, and he's in aerospace engineering. And he was talking about how he was in the middle of doing a project where he was gonna launch a rocket to 59,000 feet. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, or something's unbelievable. It might have been it might have been 85 like it was a high number I thought I felt well above or playing school like it's 59,000's way up there So playing usually at 35,000. Yeah. It was like, it was about eight and a half miles. Sacredness orbit.

It's my five-hundreds point. What? I don't know. Yeah. He can correct us. He'll probably listen to this. He didn't have miles, only like 45,000. Maybe it was 18,000 miles.

18 miles. Yeah. He said you have to like let the FAA know, right? Yeah. He said you had to let the FAA know. I wonder what that cap is. Like I wonder what that altitude, that when's what altitude you pierce, you have to notify the FAA know right yeah, he said you had to let the FAA know. Hmm. That wonder what that cap is like I wonder what that altitude That once what altitude you pierce you have to notify the FAA

I like like a typical mother rocket probably only goes like one or two thousand feet It's a lot of the FAA know about that. I'm always freaked out when I see people in private planes flying around fire Oh shit. Did you hear about that private plane that crashed yesterday? No, it was in South Carolina on the beach This pilot was flying like a little you know single prop engine plane. It was him and one passenger. The propeller fell off the plane. And uh in flight? In flight. And uh like oil shot up and like started obscuring the windshield so he couldn't see. So he started trying to glide the plane down and land it on the beach. He successfully landed. Him and the passenger were okay. He hit a jogger on the beach from behind who never heard the plane coming because the prop was gone

hit and killed a jogger on the beach with a plane with a plane that as he was crash landing it wow and he'd fill out the insurance forms of that it's like that there's in hilton head south Carolina was probably something on vacation that yeah it was it was a doctor from Georgia who I think was out there for a conference it was jogger on the beach with like an iPod on Her headphones and the plane came from behind him and hit him. You know, that's crazy

I read a story that was a follow-up to a Helicopter that crashed like a traffic helicopter or a police helicopter and It hit a dude who was wearing an iPod and he didn't hear it coming and you know Didn't know to like a to last meant last second to look up and got hit by a helicopter You know didn't know to like a to last mint last second to look up and got hit by helicopter Don't think about it. I'm sure it's a last thing that guy thought about while jogging on the beach God, what what was he fucking thinking about? You know, let's go. Let's go in through your head like you're jogging You're running. I don't get hit by your dad. I know. I know I know instant What was he thinking jogging on vacation?

Who does that on the beach? Maybe I was like the story here about the guy and like this full scuba suit in the middle of the woods? Oh, that's a huck in her bed. Let's yeah, yeah, I pods are the new Basically the second you put on the earphones your life is in danger You think so? I don't know. We're all wearing earphones right now. We better watch out for planes Yeah, I think they tried that marketing campaign. It didn't sell as well Your life is in danger. You will get hit by something you don't hear.

That was always a talk about when the Prius or the Prius, how do you say the Toyota Prius Prius, that because they run on batteries in urban environment, that they don't make as much noise. And some people are constantly potentially getting hit by these cars. How long have you talked about that with the car in the Southern California, right?

Where what when you wanted to buy was it the Tesla the Tesla? Yeah Because they're running bad when they're in battery mode But the Tesla always is yeah, you can't hear it at all. You can't hear it It just rolls up on you people will step off the curb right in front of the damn thing and get knocked over That would suck. It would suck. I know girl got hit by a bus like that she was at one of those places when I of those intersections where lots of buses are. And you mean to went out in front of our office? Yeah, yeah.

But she, this was on campus. And she saw her bus across the street. It looked like it was about to leave. So she stepped off the curb to run and to go to it. And like somebody pushed her really, really hard. And she fell that and looked back up. And the person that pushed her was a bus. And it had just like like just started moving forward and

Noctur and she's the bus drivers like leaning way over like right on Oh my god, I had the scaredest look on his face. I've seen so many terrible videos on the internet like that That they've been involved a lot more speed but dude who landed the plane and Hudson is retiring. Yeah, I heard about that now They should send him off with the biggest pinching you could possibly imagine Just I hope he doesn't go jogging on the beach. Yeah, no heard about that now. They should send him off with the biggest pension you could possibly imagine Just I hope he doesn't go jogging on the beach. Yeah, no kidding right? Oh, what do I do now underfield be like some kind of you know safety consultancy or some kind of lobbyist for You know aviation safety seems like he could parlay that celebrity into Interlect lobbyist or consultancy work eating really monopolized on it though, you know or take advantage of it

Got a book does he? I don't totally joined the Facebook group. I take it I don't think that's his Facebook group. You think you made his own know some other dude started Okay, what's the what's this thing you have on your screen about halo creators have bungee arrow space? Yeah, I guess I came out this week that bungee applied a trademark on the name bungee arrow Aerospace along with this logo. Wonder what it means. I don't know. It's been a lot of talk about it.

I guess it's a filing with the US patent trade office, a trademark office. See, it's an interesting thing because there's actually gaming companies that are associated with real aerospace projects. Right, and that's what it talks about. Like John Carmack has that armadillo aerospace company, which... They were pretty close to winning the X prize. Yeah, they were really close. I think they were, I think they were second, weren't they?

They were second and third. They were up there with Jeff Bezos project. Yeah, yeah, they were, for the X prize, they were up there and I'm pretty sure that they had a launch date that they were gonna make. There were all these rules that you had to go up twice, right? Right. And you had to go up within a certain time frame.

Right, right. And that they were, I think they were filing a protest. If the last thing I heard about Armadillo, for the people that actually did win, like they were just, but they, they were just doing it on a formality basis. And everyone kind of knew that these people were going to win the edge. Yeah. I think Armadillo had a launch that was, that ended up being unsuccessful. Is that what it was? I think so. Yeah. I'm going to, to I'm going to make it. Does anybody know what their sort of project looked like at all? Like I know the guy's a rocket.

I know the guy's a one. It was like it was like basically like an airplane that got to high orbit. Then like it was like sort of a feather. Where technically it's called low orbit low orbit. I'm sorry. But was a rocket. Did they literally I have no clue. I have no clue. I have no clue.

It looked kind of like this actually, like the, but you're a space logo. If I recall properly, it was kind of like a cone. It was weird looking. You can have like three legs on it. It looks like something out of a 50 sci-fi movie. Supposedly, there's about to start beginning those flights out in New Mexico, where they're going to be doing 200,000 bucks a seat. And they're building a spaceport right now in New Mexico. I read about it I think it was either in

Forbes or that terrible magazine that's in the seatback pockets of American Airlines lights. I mean American way. Yeah. How dare you sir. You like that magazine? I love American way. See I would want to accomplish something. I would want to just go you know if it's just a deal where you take off from New Mexico, land in New Mexico. I would want to take off in New Mexico, land in Australia. Well, no, no, that's actually the space for that's what they're saying is that you can buy your jet pack. Exactly. Jet pack, jet pack, and jet pack.

But they know they're saying that the actual long-term application of this is that it's not going to be for space travel, but for really awesome globe. What is that? I was way off. That's the Armadillo Aerospace Vehicle. What? That's a... Well that looks perfectly safe. It looks like four giant fuel tanks. It looks like somebody that lives about a hundred miles outside of Dallas would have made. I mean that's exactly what it looks like. Where would you put the person on that? I don't know. It looks like a barbecue grill. It's like parts falling off of it when it launches. It looks like something from the 70s that they thought you know space travel was going to

look like. It looks like artist concept. A 50s sci-fi book cover. Yeah but it's like it was a weird period in the 70s of sci-fi stuff where everything was bulbous like that. In the 50s everything was look like fins from a Cadillac, you know, and that thing looks like almost like organic in a weird way. It looks like it looks like four bombs tied together. It looks like the ship from the old game Lunar Landr. Did you ever play that game? That's what it looks like. With the big handle on it? Yeah, that's what it looks like. What, you do it have to hide.

I'm trying to remember, like you said this, you said from me before I would get on that. You said there was 70 sci-fi, you know, looked like bulbous. I know there was a movie or a ship that I was seeing is very iconic like that from 2001 like face 1999 something like that like that era and the original battle star Galactica Yeah, yeah, I can't I can't picture. It's good driving crazy All right, we should probably wrap this up. It's a it's about lunchtime Let's go eat some food and get Zilla back to Seattle. Let's go eat some food and enjoy South by Southwest. Hey, I think I saw that they're setting up some music downstairs. Oh, that's great. Can't wait. Don't forget we're going to be at Pax East and we'll have a panel on Saturday, March 28th. Gus is at 27th. March 27th is definitely the Saturday at 3pm.

330. 330pm. Major Nelson's panel starts at 3pm, 3.30pm. Major Nelson's panel starts at 3.00. Go there for 30 minutes and then come to ours. That's the way it should work. Sure, why not? So go in his for 30 minutes and then come in. Well, we should put the difference. Okay, go to his. We promise to just delay and we'll start half an hour late. Right. I'll try to give up the details at the beginning because that's the correct me. I went ahead and updated our events page on RisterT.com. Great.

So you can see all of our upcoming events. We have Paxi's Boston. We have a showing at the Alamo Drafthouse here in Austin, which has sold out like three times already and they keep me from going to a bigger theater. I think the next theater we're going to is the IMX. Not really. And the IMF is still there.

Nothing till the summer. And Zilla, you have actually seen some. I'm not the best. Nothing to, uh, nothing to the summer. And Zilla, you have actually seen some of the new Red versus Blue stuff? Are you excited? I, I am speechless. I, I, I, I'm not even, I haven't been sarcastic. Like, I, I am very, very excited. Good, I'm glad you liked it. I hope everyone likes the stuff that we're going to be doing this season.

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