Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #55
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It's time to put your pedal to the metal.
From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland,
an executive producers, Will Arnet and Anthony Mackie
comes the new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal,
a high-octane action comedy based on the classic video game series.
Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider
who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland.
If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnet, and Thomas Hayden Church.
Twisted metal, streaming now, only on Pika. With Gus Jeff Burry, Joel Russe Steve, Russe Steve, on cast.
That was awesome.
In case you can't tell we're in the Acapilla phase of our theme song entries, it seems like
there were definitely, there's like you can mark when our podcast were made.
Like early on it was a lot like solo guys with guitars and moved on to like rock
riffs.
Then it was like rap and remixes and now it's like college acupelic groups.
These things I learned in the drunk tank today, being being celibate does not make you a
monk.
That's the first thing I've learned today.
What was that?
Was that something like a Gregorian chant?
I feel like we should talk about
church now. I had the coolest link sent to me via the
community site. And if you follow red versus blue, this will make
sense to you. If you don't, too bad. Someone sent me a link
that there is a new programming language. It's an AI
programming language developed at MIT and it's called church
irony nice, so irony maybe that's cool. It is irony is irony or is it coincidence? No, that's coincidence Did you know that the irid and who's it named after?
What's that who's it named after I don't know it could be I named that friend
I thought you were saying that was named that friend actual guy right a guy named Alonzo church who is some kind of
saying that was named that from actual guy right? A guy named Alonzo Church who is some kind of doctor who
forwarded the field of AI research.
Alonzo is Spanish for Leonard right?
Yes.
He had a girlfriend.
He had a girlfriend.
I don't know.
Do you know that?
Did you know that before?
No.
Yes.
I did my research.
Well, we know the name of the program that's
going to kill that program.
We do not deal with the program.
The program will be hit by a train going in reverse.
All right, what are we doing?
Well, it's a podcast.
Hey, Jack, Bernie, and Joel, along with Gus here.
Hey guys, I have an important question for you all.
So how was how was packs?
Fantastic.
It was shocking.
There was a lot of fun.
I had a really shocking is definitely the word I think I would use as well. Did you get was You get you get you got I got shocked fucking constantly. Yep. Okay. Nobody said anything
I saw other people broke you know from the fractals
Also had a Twitter talking about it as well. It's like the carpet. No, I don't know what it was so dry there
It wasn't only in the expo hall. It was everywhere
The car the fucking hotel room. This is how superheroes get started
I just what I was thinking I thought I had developed some kind of like dark Jedi powers. Every time I use the elevator it was
like both the lightning that shot out of my hand. The elevator buttons. It was nuts.
I'm surprised that my iPhone is still intact and working. I'm sure Robert
Kooz in a work on a way to train this on Twitter like Paxi electricity. You had a
theory that they were kind of pushing the Paxi-cness thing again. Yeah yeah. I
haven't feeling they were pushing like the norovirus and all this stuff.
Because I think Robert Koo just wants to get people sick to get another trend on Twitter.
Like he will, he's like, you know, like the superhero villain.
Like he's gonna infect 65,000 people with a disease.
So he can become a top trending topic in Twitter.
Brilliant.
And this is how superheroes are born, right?
Right, and some are gonna have like one, one lowly geek person or whatever,
will some side effect.
Like he's gonna get sick
But then it's gonna make him like super powerful. Yeah, he'll be able to play modern warfare to
Not stop for 36 hours and what better place for that to have maybe it's like unbreakable
Or like Robert coup is like the bad guy, but you don't really know. He's like looking for his
I think Tyke looks like an evil genius. Yeah
He's too nice, you know, but if he just like got a grimace on his face, I could definitely
get like a Persian caddies. Exactly. That'd be awesome. But you mentioned Brooke from the
Frag dolls. And we got you and I got busted, Gus. Hold on. You and I got we got straight up busted.
I got I got some very angry text messages from her husband I did you because we we committed to go to this frag doll party and then we didn't go
What does committed mean to a party? I don't know we said we would go we're on a list
We're on a list or something but but when when promises were made we were not the rules were changed after promises were made
Let's just say that the rules were set promises were made and then the rules were changed
Well, did you sign a prenuptial agreement
before the party?
And they said, we would go, then they said,
oh, you can't wear t-shirts or sneakers or hats.
You know, I've had that.
You have to be dressed up.
I've had that dropped on me.
Yeah, that's not how it goes for us.
And it's like, yeah, the way we pack.
Yeah, it's convention gear, man.
That's t-shirts and hats and shirts.
Yeah, people are traveling.
A horrible thing happened to me at convention wear,
where they signed me up for some dance or something like that.
And then like the last second, they're like,
oh, you have to be wearing a tie.
And then, didn't they tell you at one con, Joel,
you had to wear a tux for the auction?
That's what it was.
And then before I knew it, they were like,
oh, by the way, we're auctioning you off for tonight.
Just so you know.
And then some other girl came up and put like some weird like
bow on me because I didn't have a tie.
It was horrible.
Was it a bow tie, Joel?
I don't want to talk about it.
It was terrible.
It was like a poofy thing that the stewardess is where.
Yeah, but the point is we really wanted to go to the party.
We committed to it.
We didn't think we could go.
I mean, it clearly said in all caps.
It was like, you have to be wearing this
or you will not be let in. It's like, I don't want to go there and then not be let in and then the next day they're like why weren't you there?
And we said the dress code and they said oh the dress code didn't matter
I said what the fuck is it in caps all over your invitation?
Well, here's yeah, and here's the other thing. I mean you don't want to be the dude who shows up at the party not dressed up
Either you know, especially if you know, you know, you know, oh it's Gus. Oh, what is he thinking?
I don't want to be wearing my shirt my my t shirt with a wiener on it.
It's just come and take it.
Everything that was appropriate.
Everyone else is in dinner jackets. Yeah.
In sports coats.
Well, I'm going to be, I'm going to be a little more honest or two is that we
had agreed to go, but I was coming off of probably four hours of sleep in the
last 48 hours. It felt like because we were current
It just jam and trying to get that presentation done for packs. We got it done
And it was great. Thank you Jack for helping with the subtitles of the last second
Well actually the subtitles got messed up a little bit
So someone someone got to him after I got to him
They're good at finger pointing his start
Yeah, and you know, this is now the second second packs in a row where I have made the frag dolls mad. Oh, yeah, they got their
assassins cretin that I somehow fucked up or whatever they got mad at me
for that. What did you do? I can talk to them when they shouldn't have been
talking when they were in their robes at PAX Prime acting like monks from
assassins creed to because they promote UV stuff games. You know, well you have
that problem with monks in normal life, right? Where you just come up and talk
We're trying to sell it. Oh, it's that like so Buddha you want to make it so I can intro to our
I don't understand was this during a middle of a presentation or and you just they were walking down the hall
It was I just didn't understand apparently I didn't understand well. Have you played Assassin's Creed? I have okay
Well, you have no excuse in right? I guess I I don't still don't know why I made the Matt and now
I'm at again a second time was your wallet missing out yeah usually I'm gonna say this is like a long-term play
This is like we stood up the the hottest girls in gaming right so this is like bad boy 101 right here
Hey, whatever you know, I don't know that we can I'm not sure we can play that
I'm not sure we can play that card. It's a very long play.
That's what we can start smoking too.
We're so wild, they're gonna want to change us,
but no one can change us.
Get leather jackets with a logo on the back.
I can't trust you.
Motorcycles, we all get patches,
not even patches.
We're all gonna lean our segways up against the wall.
I'm sorry, I didn't have the con.
Yeah, I don't think it's gonna work.
Can I ask you a question,
and this might be inappropriate,
but I don't wanna ask it anyway? Yeah, I it's gonna work. Can I ask you a question? And this might be inappropriate,
but I don't wanna ask it anyway?
Yeah, I'm not gonna ask you.
How hot was Brooke?
How did she...
We've known her for years.
Is she aging at all?
Brooke is a beautiful woman
and her husband is a very lucky man.
Who could crush me by looking at me?
Her husband is a big Canadian
who bully your shoe over your head
and beat the hell out of you. But I mean, really, we've known her a long time, we've known her, I don't want a deity
buddy we've known her like five or six years now.
Yeah I guess like six years I think we first met her at the original packs in 2004 up in Seattle I think.
I think I don't see God I think she's actually hotter today than the day we met her.
How does that have surprising that this group knows how to pull them out.
The female haven't chased the female away in that time and that's got to be some sort of record
Well, she was contractually obligated to be there. I guess no, I guess she worked all weekend at PAX where there's sixty sixty four thousand nine hundred dudes
Yeah, well apparently was a pretty cool party everything everything I've read about it. It was awesome
She told me it was the only party she'd ever been to a video game convention where there were more girls than guys
Awesome, she told me it was the only party she'd ever been to at a video game convention where there were more girls than guys
If you guys are the dress up clothes and all the dudes got scared off all the dudes probably got turned away
Yes, they would have been us. We would have been at the door standing in the fucking snow like oh
I've been I'd be the one sending angry text. I don't want to be having to like pack a suit, you know to every every deal. But that maybe I have to just put in a
no hoodies clause and you'll eliminate honestly half the guy. Three quarters. And you know, I mean
who knew it was going to be a good party. Honestly, right? Who knew it was going to be a good party?
You've been to these industry parties. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Right? I mean, they're all
that thing. The funny thing is I saw pictures from that party. I saw pictures from that party.
I saw pictures from that party and everyone is happy and smiling and looking good and
a smile.
But none of them looked dressed up.
Yeah, we'll see that's the thing.
Apparently the red dress code was, it's like a picture of like 30 hot girls and like
three dudes and they're all smiling, especially three dudes.
Those dudes are still talking about it. No one was there, I don't know what happened.
It was great.
Actually, there were tons of girls we could never hook up with there.
I talked to one, but I wasn't looking at her.
Yeah, plus big industry parties.
Have you been to enough of those, Gus?
Oh yeah.
I feel like I've been to enough of them.
Yeah, instead of going there, I hung out with a bunch of
People from the community website. We hung out with the internet. Yeah, at the shared in hotel. It was a good time
Yeah, that packs was awesome. It turned out like
Here right at industry party now
Hey, what's going on?
Hey, how's that how's that thing you're working on? Are you working on something secret? You can't talk about my business card
Take my business card. I've got another one? You're working on something secret you can't talk about Here's my business card take my business card
I've got a no one I'm working on something it'll come out
Q4 2012 I can't talk about it so all these all the drinks are free right I
Have one dream ticket left
Now we're working on right versus blue. I heard there's a girl here somewhere. Oh you know
We're still working on it. Yeah, it's so going well drinks. I want a well drink
Then no, no, that's that's Tucker. I'm the other I'm the other blue guy. No, I'm not actually on the show. I'm not caboose
I don't know caboose is in here. Hey, who let in the guy in the hoodie?
You've now been to every industry part of the video game industry ever
Little theater on the podcast.
Sound effects of everything.
Now that this patch was a lot of fun, like the first, I think the first time I went up
to the the convention hall, the expo hall though, I was a little nervous, it felt a lot smaller,
but then once you got the geography of the whole place, it sort of made sense and it worked
a lot better.
Did you guys feel that?
Like the first time you walked in, it felt a little cramped.
The first time I walked into the exhibitors hall, I thought that, then I realized
that there was, I was only looking at half of it because it had that weird like partition in the
middle where there were bathrooms, there was like expo hall on one side, bathrooms and expo hall
on another side. I didn't fully get the geography the first time. I mean, didn't they already say that
they're gonna have to go somewhere else next year? Yeah, they're going to the bigger committees
in our next year. Remember a few years ago Joel, when when we went up to NMA Boston, you and I, you were still
living in LA at the time.
I was at the convention center and then you called me Franick because I told the cab, I told
the cab, take me to the convention center and he took me to the convention center and it
was empty.
And I was like, all right.
He took it to the one packs is going to be in next year.
Of course, right? There's always multiple convention centers.
I think also the it seemed like the booth for a lot taller this year.
And so it kind of made it feel a little bit more cramped in.
Like the packs up in Seattle, it seemed like it was a lot more space.
Really? I felt like packs prime was more vertical. Like it was taller.
Yeah. Well, we were just in that space where they hold packs Seattle Seattle because Joel and I went to Emerald City Connecon for one day
Mm-hmm, and they had no tall boots everything was just those short 10 by 10 boots
But it's enormous and it felt like the aisles were
Smot man, it was crowded really great. I felt like the aisles were smaller, but maybe I don't know
Do you know the end scene of Raiders of Lost Ark where they're taking the art?
That is a box exactly wow a perfect perfect analogy that's still with people
Yeah, and we had Joel on a dolly maybe I don't maybe the aisles were too narrow or something
I don't know, but we were also we were like this triangle of like us mega 64 and those t-shirt guys right next to us
They were those guys. They were cool. They were good guys
But what do they do besides sell t-shirts non-stop? I don't know they sold a lot of t-shirts though. I think Jeff looked them up and I think they were like a
Mother an earthbound fan group that like makes shirts. No kidding. Yeah, what is mother? It's an old game for the
SNES, okay, they had like 12 people they had like 12 employees there, right? Maybe any yes. Yeah
They it's funny. I talked to them when we were setting up and I guess they're based out of hey
Whatty also I love that move
Hey, you guys met the meg six boy guys yet who is that rock oh
I guess those guys I think they're called fun gamer. They're based out of Tucson instead. They were thinking about moving to Austin. Oh really?
Yeah, that's cool
When you more T-shirt companies and also burn yourself fucking please do it
school. When you more key shirt companies and all that. We're new so fucking please do it. So.
That's the exact song too, right?
I was glad nobody's asking why I have block rock and beats in my
I was I was waiting to see all the comments on that group about
that.
And planning that that bit for so long that finally paid off.
That's right. I bought it. I bought it years ago, hoping I can have one
day talk about video game industry parties.
And actually the mega 64 guys with crank on music every now and then it sort of start like a some kind of crazy
Rave and right in front of our booth. I shot a video of it too
So I'll did you shoot video of the final one? Yeah breaking down with a reverse hoodie? Yeah, I got that
No, did you get the other two dudes though?
We were they were breaking down. They had like a little mosh pit in front of their booth
And they're like oh the two guys, yeah, they're these two kind of fat dudes who really into it.
And they took their shirts off and were like moshing around.
Then they started like dry-humping each other.
Then that moved on to hugging.
And then that moved on to full on making out rolling
around on the floor.
Wow.
They were committed.
Yeah.
They were not with megastix before.
They were just two dudes, who I guess happened to be walking
by and really got into the moment.
Now, in Massachusetts, does that mean that you're mad?
You know, right?
That's how I've had a concern for a while now that when I when I was growing up,
girls didn't kiss at parties.
That didn't happen.
And then when when the happen, Joel, like in the 90s, girl started as soon as I was
old, Joel, Joel, never talked to a girl.
I was going to say as soon as I stopped going to party.
That's what I was going to say. yeah, it's because it's true.
Where are these parties?
Not the industry part.
But you know what I'm talking about, right?
Like, you said some fun-hom-hom that happened after...
I'll tell you, that happened just right before,
you know, the picture that you set me the other day,
that pretty much summed up the entire thing
of the half-naked girl.
Oh, yeah.
And like the kid.
Yeah. Yeah, that Yeah. I sent Joel
a Myspace picture of a girl taking like her Myspace photo and she's all like
scanly dressed and her kids right behind her. Yeah it's nice. It's horrible.
Let's assume maybe a little brother, hopefully. So she puts out. But I've had a
concern for a while now that that's gonna start bleeding into guys wanting attention and guys starting to kiss at parties
Well, that's that's Twilight right?
No
I mean, it's already started. I hate to tell you
I think uh, I think we're at that point. Yeah, if it's girls it makes the party awesome if it's guys it makes a hundred and forty million
At the party Yeah, but's guys it makes 140 million
Yeah, but you know I just I know let me be clear nobody wants to see that you know what I mean nobody wants to see that Well apparently some people do 140 million dollar can be wrong. There's no really is there kissing in Twilight from guys?
I don't know. I like just to talk about stuff that I don't know anything about you just like to make assumptions right?
Yeah, it's a probably safe assumption to make you saw Twilight didn't you you talked about it
in the other podcast I yeah I saw I I didn't mind it I saw a lot of it let's put it
that way but I just didn't get me impact it just wasn't like this horrible thing
that you know drove me away let's put it that way my sister's big in that she's
oh I love vampires I'm no those are not vampires those are just sparkly
immortal perverts it It's all the
you know, I mean, it's funny how vampires it's just a genre that just is not it's like country music
like it's just going to keep coming back and money's going to be made off. It's like what we talked
about like last month or two months ago in the podcast is we were trying to figure out what the most
remade movie ever was. Yeah, and then we ultimately figured out it was like Dracula or like the wolf
man or something like that. It's just one of those archetypal, you know, villains and monsters.
Yeah, the thing about twilight though is like what are like the staples of vampires?
Like they turn to bats, they can't go outside during the daylight.
And it's like twilight, they just completely change all that.
So yeah, they can go outside when it's sunny.
It's sparkly by the way.
Oh, well, I think if you add something in and your version becomes popular, then it becomes canon,
if you will.
I don't know if you can add that.
By the way, just so everyone knows, vampires aren't real.
Right.
So, tell Enri.
You can probably change rules if you can make money at it.
But then it's not a vampire.
Every 15-year-old girl listening to this podcast Just turned it off
So I'm both of them. Oh, no, I'd like to think of vampires our real listeners
How will we ever manage? I don't think the bad thing was the original deal. I don't think they turn into bad
Yeah, I don't think that was originally I think you picked that up from Sesame Street
I think you picked that up from Sesame Street account. He turned to that is the only one that I can remember right?
No, no, there's Dracula who turned to a bat.
I guess I don't know when that's our,
but I don't think that was originally.
Have you seen the Japanese vampires?
No.
They hop.
Like they hop around like bunnies almost.
It's weird, man.
Like is it over a long distance?
Or is it just like the wall?
That's how they move.
They don't fly.
They don't run.
They just hop.
I saw a trailer for some Japanese vampire movie
at the Draft House one time.
It's like, what the hell is going on? Is it all Japanese vampires or was it just that movie?
I don't know. It might be all of them. I think they might be like their sort of style of vampires.
They also have funnicals. Yeah, I heard they're and cell phones on their shoes.
But hello kitty hanging out. So did you? I heard their Easter bunnies. We're wolf.
Are we done talking about that? No, it's gonna about to bring it back. Did you get hear their Easter bunnies were we're what are you done talking about? No, it's about to bring it back The um did you did you get Wi-Fi and any of your flights up to Boston Bernie? Did you break even on your?
Not not one. Oh man for four flights because I had to connect through Dallas and Chicago on the back not one
That's so now on two four ten
Geez waste total waste
Yeah, 20% American man half half of our flight say it was Jeff and I connected through
Chicago and the flight between Austin, Chicago did which you said was the one you had it on yep, but the Chicago to Boston did not have it
Although the Chicago to Boston flight was on a 737 and the power ports were not like the cigarette lighter adapters
It was a normal plug that's good. We're what those ports because I didn't I know I couldn't find it on my seat
Oh, why are they usually sorry? Do you know where they are? They might not be backwards. No, no, no, they they they're fine. They said they're all were there's ports because I didn't I know I couldn't find it on my seat. Oh, why are they usually sorry?
Do you know where they are? It might not be backwards. No, no They they they'll find this that they're all were there normally and you were it was in the economy
It's like every two or three rows. Yeah, they'll have they'll have seats
They'll have signs up under where you put your baggage. No, they literally that was literally on every single row
Oh, okay, but I couldn't find out like
You see where I'm sitting. Let's say there's another seat here
It's like in between the two seats down here at the bottom.
Okay, so in between the sort of like where the armrest is in the bottom of the armrest.
No, but below, like down where your legs are.
Okay.
So it's not on the floor, it's on the armrest.
No, it's not on the armrest.
It's like between the seats.
Like with the legs that support the seat, like down there.
Okay.
Looking for the ovula.
Look at the ovula.
What?
The armrest. It's made of a war. Joel went to fake medical school. Okay, look at the obvious
Jolman to make a war Joel went to fake medical school upstairs Hollywood medical college while we were at packs I think well at the new health care bill. Joe just gave us 37 to pelvic exam
But yeah, if you look at for the little lightening bowl and then I found out that if you look on at least on American
If you look at their little tool they have
to tell you for flight, we'll have Wi-Fi, it also tells you what rows on that plane have
power ports.
Oh nice.
I don't like that tool though, because it just lets you, you can only check it within 24
hours of your flight.
So you don't know a long period of time ahead.
You have to wait till less, less than 24 hours before your flight.
And then you can check.
Because you already booked.
Yeah, what the fuck? Otherwise, you might book a different flight and actually use the check. Because you're already booked. Yeah, it's like, what the fuck?
Otherwise, you might book a different flight
and actually use the tool for your can-
Yeah, why wouldn't they show you when you're booking
what flights have it, what flights you don't?
How many planes does America have?
I don't know.
Like how hard, how big an endeavor would it be
to put Wi-Fi on all their planes?
Yeah, how big of the fleet be?
Well, okay, what's the overrunner?
I'll say, what's the over under a thousand?
A thousand planes? Yes, they got three, four thousand. It got three four thousand yeah I've got to be closer to five I've
been okay I have no idea you know it's really scary when you know how many people are in
the air at any one point in time I think there was American Airlines proper the fleet
sizes 613 with 64 additional ones on order how much was it what's up 613 that's it
plus 64 on order I could start my own
airline. I got no planes, but I could add five or six. Give me a little bit of money.
Sandpiper air. Little seed money. Then you'll fucking black the windows out and try to fly
with the camera up to the rudder. Well, you're spoiling something that's coming because
most people haven't seen it. That just is referencing another video that we made which
goes back to the Mega 64 guys
because originally we had parts played by Monty and Frank that were going to be played by the Mega 64
guys. Oh that's what they were going to play. Well we keep threatening to do this team up thing and
then we just can't find a way to get it done because they're busy with production and we're busy with
production and we're in two different cities but hopefully we'll just... Just the next time yeah
the next time the booze or next to one another there you go. I think that's sort of a staple now.
I wouldn't be shocked if every pack's from now on, the Mega 64, Mr.
Teeth booze are very, very close.
No, I'm sure it's intentional.
Yeah.
No, we have been that way.
For now, what, four years?
Or four, the last four packs?
We have spent like three or four here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
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okay, so well, now we're actually near them.
You did a thing, you did an interview
for Achievement Hunter weekly update
with the Mega 64 guys.
No, it's Achievement Hunter in general.
Oh, it's Achievement Hunter.
Yeah.
And I saw the raw footage,
are you just gonna put that up raw?
Maybe, I've got some footage of like the dance party
and stuff like that,
I'll probably enter supplies for that, but I've got, and then also one night when we were breaking down for the night
and then literally they were just breaking down and dancing instead of collecting all their
stuff.
I was waiting by their booth, like I was just kind of talking with them, and they like,
they had a table at the back of their booth, and I guess under the table they had a lot
of shirts and like overstocking stuff, and I guess one of the guys went back there to
To pull shirts out so you could restock what they had out and you reached under there without looking
They're like kind of jumped back and then one of the megastas before guys like, ah jumped out from under the table
It's like what the fuck? How long have you been down there's like I've been down there like half an hour waiting for someone
I guess we were just waiting
anticipating someone to come look for a shirt and you like jump down scare jumps
I guess we were just waiting and just waiting someone to come look for a shirt and you like jump down scared
Dedication look I was like I reach down there and I felt a beard
The table is going through the change of life
But those guys they went for five minutes straight into the camera and it was hilarious the entire five minutes
Just non-stop, non-stop. Do they?
Are they?
Well, I'll be watching.
But you should put it up.
You should definitely put it up there.
I'll put it up.
It'll almost be the entire raw footage I shot.
But it's good stuff.
That is fun.
It was funny, dude.
Really funny.
So something kind of weird to have in a Pax.
And it was a big new story.
There actually, I was kind of disappointed.
There didn't seem to be a lot of coverage of packs.
Like even Kotaku and Joystick, there weren't those daily updates
of what was going on at packs.
I guess maybe because it's less an industry thing
and more of a culture.
Well, that's what it's on here.
Like the media badge is there.
They don't really get you into anything.
It's just like a free three day badge.
Like if you have a media badge,
you still have to wait and line to get into panels.
I mean, it's like primarily about the fans
and I think that's sort of what they really want to push.
I guess they're concerned about turning into E3.
But I think there's probably a better balance
that can be reached there.
I think maybe if they're more selective
with their media badges,
and who they give it out to
and then still maybe give them priority.
Because I saw some people with media badges
that I, in companies that I recognize
that you shouldn't have a media badge.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Thank you.
I'm not going to call them out.
Why not?
I don't want to crap all over them.
Well, I'm not media.
What are you worried about?
What are you going to do?
We talking about Jack.
Yes, I'm talking about Jack.
I'm just human hunter.
It's bullshit.
Actually, Jack didn't even have a,
not an exhibitor badge.
An exhibitor badge.
What did you exhibit?
Ristrate notes.
Ristrate notes.
I broke down the booth, where were you?
What? I was in the...
You were fucking abandoned us, we're breaking down the booth. Don't even bring that up.
No, it was done and we thought you guys were...
I was, you abandoned us.
Jeff and I went to go fill out the paperwork and get our shipping list.
You know, the amount of...
We came back and everyone was gone.
That takes place around the booth,
near breakdown and setup.
It's like the equivalent of being on the deck of the Star Trek Enterprise,
when it's getting hit. It's just like that for two days. No, we had everything created. It was
already to go. We were just sitting there and all of a sudden Jeff and Gus left and I was like,
I don't think we would be like, hey, let's go guys. Well, I don't know. I thought you just was like,
if you guys and just took off, which wouldn't shock me. That's happened like soon. I remember
Gavino was looking for Dolly one time. He's like, I'm gonna go find a Dolly. He didn't seem again for another three and a half hours.
That's a serious thing.
And that happens, it's happened with, I mean,
but no, it's like, it's true though.
Like when you're in that situation,
you're like, okay, I just need to find some shrink wrap.
Yeah.
It turns into this tail, this quest,
where it's like, you go talk to a guy,
oh, I saw one over there, whoa, and before you know it for,
I was like,
I was like,
I was like,
I was like,
I was like, that's exactly where he was. You know, I actually, exactly exactly what it's like to take a weird aside here you said quest and that
or bought me up a or brought a story of my head when I left Rooster Teeth on
Thursday before or the day before we go to packs I left I left the office like
130 and I was driving on Congress Avenue and I saw you left the company I saw a guy
hitchhiking don't tease me and I was like you know and then I realized it was Leslie the Austin Homeless oh
Is he back? Yeah, I guess he's he's walk around me. He was hitchhiking and I passed him you're gonna have to explain it
And so Leslie is like the like the Austin he's a famous homeless guy
We have a famous homeless guy not we have a bunch of famous homeless people in Austin
He's run for mayor. I don't let's see if he walks around in his underwear
He ran for mayor and got three percent of the vote. I thought it was like 15 percent or so. It wasn't over double. It wasn't double
digits, but I was going to say six, but I was saying three to be safe in case somebody
could fact check. But he wears like leopard thongs around six street, which is like our big
downtown club area. And he just like, he's a face that has been in Austin forever, like
as long as I remember. Okay, explanation over. Get back to you. All right. So anyway, so I'm
driving on the street. And I see, I see this this guy, you know hitchhiking and I realize it's Leslie and then I passed him and I was like
I immediately regretted that that I should have pulled over and you know picked him up and seen just I think that would have been an adventure
Great thing that would you think that would have ruined the magic
I see if you get to know Leslie do you think all of a sudden the magic's gone?
I don't know because maybe you lose your castle
Ha ha ha until you're like you realize you're in a car with some weird homeless dude, but it's a shower in a week
And it's wearing underwear in a thong and it's like and when that reality hits you actually was wearing daisy dukes
I
When I passed. Yeah, I'm not sure I want to wake up in that it's like now. So anyway, that was I regretted that adventure
I think you made the right choice or not taking I think you made the right choice
I would have totally picked up Leslie in a heartbeat. Yeah, Yeah. You should have gone back. I should have. I just
agree with Joel. Okay. Well, you've got leather seats, Bernie. You can you can clean them
and oil them down. Yeah, it's right. You know, and then, you know, Bernie picks up Leslie
and somebody happens to take a picture, then it's on the internet. The rest of the world
doesn't know about Leslie, the famous, that's what happened it in Berlin Bernice have a story I was just giving him a ride that's right exactly right same story all right so I'm
Donald my story okay how about the how about the story you guys want to talk
about the guy at packs who yeah you read my mind so apparently I guess some
idiot decided he was gonna try to steal a game at packs and not just like a
retail game he tried to plug in his laptop and download the source code for a game coming up this summer
and of course was caught by security and arrested and the name of this game is breached.
Did any of you play breached?
Yes, I did.
Sort of ironic.
That's ironic.
Yeah.
It's actually it actually looks really cool.
I can't believe it's going to be a market point.
In the game you're in the game you're in a convention center and you're the plug-in.
Nevermind. I can't believe it's gonna be a market in the game. You're in the game. You're in a convention center and you're the plug-in.
Never mind.
So this kid too, he also like, they were asking me,
hey, what are you doing?
And he's like, oh, I'm stealing your game.
And they're like, wait, what?
And then eventually, like, I guess they said,
stop it in the Iran.
And then he's like, he's not sad.
He's not sad.
Had he not said, I'm stealing your game.
Let's say he said something else.
He'd have the game probably, right?
He told them he was trying to steal the game. He got caught.. Right. He told them he was trying to steal the game.
He got caught.
And then he told the police he was trying to steal the game.
And then later he's like, oh no, I was just
trying to get on the internet because the Wi-Fi wasn't working.
Yeah.
And then he said that he just really liked the game
and he wanted to bring home to play it with his friends.
Yeah.
We need an episode of cops that covers just nerds.
Because that would be great.
Well, earlier in the day, too, he was
at the Xbox Enforcement panel, right?
And he had, like apparently his account got banned and he asked for it to get unbanned
and then I said, why? And he's like, well, an illegal copy of fours of three on my machine.
And I was like, well, you dumbass. Of course you're going to get banned.
Yeah, you're hiring the same onto a modded Xbox and play it online.
And of course you can get banned.
Really, the dumbass isn't doing that.
The dumbass is thinking that it's totally acceptable
to stand up at a mic with the people who work in that industry
and say it like it's a funny thing.
Haha, get it, I'm pirating all your stuff.
Hey, you guys worked for three years in this,
I'm just gonna take it.
It's cool, would you?
He also offered the police a hundred bucks to let him go.
He sounds to me like a guy who clearly spends
too much time in internet forums and doesn't understand that the world works different.
Here's the thing too, it's not just that guy. You know there's lots of people like that.
I think it's yeah well apparently after he was caught that's what he says like I know people
like and if you let me go I'll give you names of other people who pirate and fish the knee are you? He ran them out? Yeah, he totally flipped. We're starting to write everyone out
What a surprise and then he jumped bail and then he jumped bail
I would he jumped bail so he could play modern warfare too and this is why Jeff does not hear today
He said I'm playing model 20 year old kid, right? Yeah, here's his picture of no one seen him. God, what a douche
Yeah, he's the internet right no one seen him. Gowdy-Dush. Yeah.
He's...
That's the internet, right?
Interesting to see what happens with this fellow.
Well, I mean, it's like he...
He gave an interview to like Joysticker Kotaku via Xbox Live as well.
Yeah, it was Joystick.
Yeah.
That's why they knew his gamer tag,
which is why they know when he didn't show up for court yesterday morning,
or Tuesday...
Yeah, yesterday Tuesday morning,
that he was playing Modern Warfare 2.
They said they sent him a message, but he immediately logged off.
It should be like, oh shit, court.
What it's in it?
I'm already BBL.
That's a fast court appearance.
Yeah.
What's it like?
You said you read an interview with him.
What are you saying the interview?
No, no, no, I didn't talk to the guy.
I'm saying joystaked it.
Yeah, but he said you read an interview.
Oh, yeah, they basically, he was explaining what he had done and like why you know, oh, it's not a bad thing
I was just I just wanted to play with my buddies again
It's like you're dumbass. Wow. Yeah, I mean, it's just like there's nothing there. There's no there's no sensor there
He's just a moron. Wait, I think it's just you know being in an environment where
You're currently surrounded by people who support this like this is okay
And it happens all the time where you think it happens all the time and no one ever there's no repercussions
It seems like well. I mean this guy could be the example, you know
You could you know hopefully they'll they'll hit him pretty hard
They say because he's been like five years in jail. Yeah, I think he's facing before
Skipping his court appearance. He was facing five years in jail in a two hundred fifty thousand dollar fine
Yeah, but for skipping court and a $250,000 fine. But for skipping court, now he has $150,000.
Well, yes, and a rest warrant out for him now,
since he skipped court.
So they're probably going to add on additional stuff.
Apparently, the guys who do breach
also do a lot of military contracts
or something or government contracts.
And so that was like the big deals.
He could have pulled something by accidents.
That would be like, now it's not secured enough.
Well, come on.
I doubt it's taking national security stuff to come on.
No, he's not.
I also, I also heard he knows where Osama is.
And he's lucky he didn't pull any protective data.
Beyond what he already did, you know what I mean?
Getting 14 mags out of a two gig file
is what they said before they stopped him.
Hey, and he was talking to just, you know,
he's probably looking forward to posting about it,
saying I even told him, taking their game and they're like,
okay, cut it out.
Mm, I stood there and got all two gigs and here it is for everybody
God, well you think now like the breach guys are actually kind of psyched about this because it's gonna a lot more press
I honestly I had not heard about breach until the gap. Yeah. Yeah, there you go
Yeah, I hadn't heard about it. I like earlier in that day. I was walking around
Maybe I heard him and it looked really cool. I was like oh wow
I like I took a card. I talked to the guy there for a bit. I was like, I'll
check it out later. And now it's this huge deal. What is it? It's like a FPS. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. The next thing to be arcade game. Yeah. 15 bucks. That's this was probably
one of the best cons I've ever seen specifically for arcade games. Yeah. Because they had that.
They had the Monday night combat. Monday night combat looked great. Yeah. Because they had that, they had the... Monday night combat.
Monday night combat looked great.
Yeah.
It was like an alternative sports game,
and I didn't get a chance to play it,
but you did an interview with the developer.
I talked to one of the guys who worked on it, so.
It was like they're up eventually.
It was cool.
It seemed like they're definitely pushing arcade games more and more.
I mean, that's what it was like at the Xbox Live party
here, itself, by Southwest.
Yeah.
All arcade.
Yeah, that Monday night combat, it's like a team fortress to Powerball, Southwest. Yeah, all arcade. Yeah, that Monday night comment
It's like like a team fortress to powerball basically. It's pretty neat
And I'm not sure if anyone else cares, but there was also a hydro Thunder remade. Yeah, hell yeah, that was pretty fun
I that
Got to be in my top 10 all-time worst arcade games really hydro Thunder. Did you play Arctic Thunder? Yeah, it was it was in that era
Video games, so I think the arcade was dying.
And everywhere I went,
where they had a lousy shitty like three machine arcade.
And two of them were like big buck hunter.
And a hydro Thunder, or a golden tee.
Yeah.
Exactly.
It was one of those peripheral games.
So it was Area 51, the buck hunter game,
and then hydro Thunder.
And if you're lucky, time crisis.
And the joy is actually a very good game.
Time crisis too is on my favorite arcade games ever.
Area 51's fun too if you play with both guns
That's a lot like John Wu style put in two quarters and play both players. That's a lot of fun. You ever done that before?
Yeah, I worked in arcade for like the first three years of my career or
It's all been downhill since then really was it the gold mine? No, I worked it
So what was Sega City then it was game works the one only Klein mall
No, I worked it uh, so what was Sega City then it was game works the one in Lakeland mall
Speaking of Sega Why did say I have a 10 by 10 booth next to us in the corner of the convention center?
I don't know our booth was bigger than say
I was our booth was a couple the size of say yeah, what is that?
I don't know man, and it was it was staffed by a guy. I don't think actually worked for Sega
I think you just ran the booth maybe you're just a huge Sega fan
It's like I want to set up a booth for them. Yeah, cool shirt though
That's what they were not pushing anything. No, they had they like they had two kiosks set up with like Bayonetta and some other game
I didn't recognize in a couple of like DS stations, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's it
I'm looking at them like you know, maybe they maybe they had some other game that they thought they could start
Promoting no, they could start promoting.
No, they were promoting anything.
No, no, no, no, maybe when they made arrangements for the booth, maybe they thought they were going to have something out in time and didn't.
Maybe that knew that thief was going to be there. They didn't want their stuff stolen.
It was just amazing to think like, you know, 15 years ago, Sega was the number two gaming company on the planet.
And here they are in a booth half the size of ours. That's, wow.
You know the whole, well, it might be that they didn't want to be there.
They had the budget money there to be there.
And I'll be honest, you don't know what's going to happen with any of these
conventions. Who knew when PAC started?
And it was 3,000 people that it was going to grow to what it is today.
But what I was going to say was that we all know now at Comic Con that it is too
late to get a booth at Comic Con.
If you want one, you cannot get a booth.
It's not gonna happen.
Like, we're any of you.
We're any of you guys surprised that like,
they're sold out of the East Coast packs,
and they have to move to a bigger location.
No one's surprised by that, right?
No, I'm not.
I'm surprised that they did it that quickly.
They went in one year.
That they were sold out.
You couldn't walk up and buy a ticket to the DVD.
I'm not surprised at all.
I'm impressed, but I'm not impressed but I'm not surprised at all.
Well, it's the first year they've done Paxies and it's the second largest
Pax they've ever had. That's impressive. It's also like I think the week before
um, um, enemy Boston. Oh yeah. It's an anime. It's still a lot of crossover.
Like people who go to these events, true, might look at both and be like,
I only have enough money to go to one Which one am I gonna go to true?
That's true. Yeah, my money's still out there, right? Yeah, I think you're dealing I think we do with cities that are that big
You know, it's always gonna be I don't know. You're always gonna have enough market
I just realized we can talk about money now
Yeah, that's the first time that's the first time anyone said his name on the podcast
Hey, and now he's and now he's not here
I mean he was gonna be on the podcast
He's been here for six months wanting to be on the podcast and he's out of town
When he first started when he first started he was like you think I could be on the podcast like you don't have to say my name
And I'll just be there and talk. No, you can't fucking do that. I don't think that's the way it works
But no, what I was but what I was trying to say was that maybe Sega's doing a smart thing and just we have a booth this year
So next year we come back we can get a booth whatever size we want next year. That's like kind of reserving future booth. That's pretty smart maybe. I
mean there are there are big big companies that cannot get booths at Comic Con anymore just because
they missed the vote. You know now that you're saying that I think the Sega booth either at E3 or
PAX last year they had a big bayonetta thing they had a really big booth. I'm not mistaken. So it
may that you're making that makes a lot of sense that they would just be like okay we're gonna feel
it out and see what it is in the next year will yeah better couple of Bayonetta cosplayers show up
Yeah, every now and then at their booth. There's a Bayonetta was probably the most cosplay thing in the entire convention
I don't know about that. Oh, I think I would agree. I saw a lot of effort
I did see a bunch of Ghostbusters, so I think we're together together
Yeah, and some team fortress people. Yeah, the individuals coming.
Actually, I saw a really cool team fortress to cosplay.
It was a guy dressed up like the spy.
He was waiting in line for the Will Wheaton meet and greet,
and he had a Will Wheaton mask on.
Oh, I saw it.
You know, Will Wheaton actually took a picture with him.
Oh, did it?
And tweeted it.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah, there was another guy too who was the robot from Automata.
Oh, cool.
I thought that was pretty cool. Oh, that Oh cool. I thought that was pretty cool.
Oh that's cool.
I saw Fruitfucker too.
The last night of the convention I went back to my hotel and there was a note slipped
under my door and I think it was intended for Will Wheaton but I'm not sure.
And it said, it was very kind of cryptic.
His name was IonFlu or something like that.
And he was awesome, just like your keynote.
And I was like, um, okay, so you
were next door to Liliton. Nice. You know, did you guys, well, we were in that hotel,
which by the way, I have to give a shout out to the Sheraton hotel that's connected to
the, what is it? The high conventions and high-end convention center in Boston. Congratulations,
you were the worst fucking hotel in the entire world. I will say this, they have the best
hotel internet
I've ever had in mind. That is true. It was fast. It was fast once you could get on it once they got the right name on your
Room. Oh, yeah, we had big problems overall. Then we had a room in our name that we had to pay a whole mic for that we didn't
Reserve and they just gave it to us and we accidentally registered for a room. No, no, no, we didn't accidentally register for room.
That's a fuck up on the room.
No, I know.
Yeah, they just said, oh, you have another room.
And I said, oh, well, then give me the keys for that one too.
And then there goes 160 bones.
Oh, yeah, that hotel unit was so fast.
Like the first night was working out like a banner situation.
And I had to upload a 250 megabyte file to FedEx.
It uploaded in seven minutes.
Like it was uploading at 1.1 megabytes a second
for a while there.
For a second, I thought Gus said I was working out
and I was like, no, no, no, what the hell?
This is the most amazing story of all time.
Yeah, come on, I had a preview,
like the Chief and Hunter ad packs East preview video
that I upload a while was there,
I cut and upload a while was there.
Usually when I upload those things,
I'll start the upload, then you can start inputting details.
And usually it's like by the end of it, it's, we set it to private because we wait for them to get in
high-death before we push them live. That thing had finished before I'd even made it to that
option. It just uploaded super fast. It was really, really cool to see. I hope our new office
has something similar. I was going to say we might actually be jaded by how bad our internet
here is at this office. I could be right here. Here's terrible. Do you think we have the worst
internet connection
for a company that's based on the internet?
Yes, I think so.
Like we're using a residential.
Like someone at home could have this internet connection
and like use it like a couple.
But we've got a small family.
We've got a split between.
We have 12 machines.
We're running a business with like nine people
I'll share in it.
It's like, oh.
It's not a good idea though with us.
And by the way, we're talking about our office internet,
not our servers internet.
That's what 50 megabits per second burstable to 100 megabits a second.
That's 50 up to a infinite. Up to infinite.
Charge for it. Yeah, it's our office internet when we're trying to, you know, surf what would
Tyler Durdden do and check in. Docker and. And send you to the pictures. Hey, the other
day, I think it was yesterday, count 3d sent me this store, count 3D's a member on our website,
sent me this story online, and I think it's a pretty good podcast topic.
Apparently there's this Japanese game developer called Overflow,
and they produce like erotic video games, like animated stuff.
Like stuff you always associate with the Japanese game market.
I was market.
Yes, you have that intention.
Have this game that came out called Cross Days. And I guess what they did
was they knew people were gonna pirate it and put it up on BitTorrent
trackers. So they the version that's online, if you pirate this game, it has a
modified setup file. So when you run the setup file in order to install the
game, you have to fill out just a quick survey like, who are you, where do you
live, stuff like that. But it's not in the retail copy. It's only in the pirate version
So when the pirates download the game illegally they fill out the survey survey automatically posts to the company the game developers website
Along with the screenshot of their desktop at the time that they filled out the survey really yeah
And there's like a whole gallery you can see a people's screenshift people's desktops and like all their information, their name, their address,
everything you're awesome.
And it's probably in the terms of service.
It's in the terms of service.
That they can post their desks, and they agree to that.
Yes, they agreed to it.
That's fantastic.
But you know, who's gonna fill out a survey correctly?
You know, you're not gonna put your real name
and your information, right?
Yeah, for a, I don't know, some more on my.
Some more on the porn game that you pirated.
I'm cool with that, man. Like, anyway, to start-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
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Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line.
Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, for some more on-line. Yeah, forjans and all that. Well, you know, I don't know how to feel about this because that's the case of the developer
doing it and then the developer putting it out there.
If that was a police agency, that would be entrapment.
It really would be and then there's no equivalent of entrapment on a private level.
But you know, you could say it's a prank, but what happens if do they do they approve
these things before they go up?
I don't know.
Or they just automatically post?
This is one of the first information on your desktop. This is one of the things that just is not getting
et settled until there's some weird huge massive lawsuit. You know, it's something that happens in Japan.
Yeah, I'll say it's Japan. It probably won't happen. This happened in America. It'd probably be a bigger story than this.
Did you get that? One shirt would go on for a long time. It may not ever, there may not ever be a lot.
You know, we sure would go for years.
Someone was reading a very, very thorough erotic fan fiction
when they were playing out the service.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm not even gonna read it in the podcast.
I don't think our explicit tag covers it.
It was fun in that.
Well, there's a big deal in China.
I was reading an article about it,
and I'm gonna, I'm gonna miss quote the term here,
I think, but I believe it's called,
meet searches or something like that meet as an MEAT
Yeah, like meet as in meet as in like as a state as in delicious as in people and the reason it's called that is
It's a phenomenon where when they see something that's happened like a video tape of a security camp footage
If you say a guy beating his wife or something like that. And it gets on their equivalent of 4chan.
I guess our 4chan is equivalent
or whatever they have actually.
But that people get internet rage going
and then they determine as a mob group,
let's find out who this guy is and let's ruin his life.
Oh man, and anonymous does that here.
Not quite the same or what.
I wonder how successful they are at that endeavor.
Well, there was a case,
I was reading a long article about it.
And one case was, and this is kind of gross and terrible.
But it was about a video that two couples made,
man and a woman, where she basically stepped on a kitten.
And it was a bad, just horrible thing.
And her face was clearly on the video,
and they could see geographic information behind her.
They could see skyline and things. And they this one out and just under down and just made their both their lives miserable.
Apparently she was like a school teacher or something like that. I'm just going from memory here, but it's a and then of course they went into cases where they just end up
ruining people's lives for things that aren't that big a deal. You know, like a guy cheats on his wife, which is horrible,
but they just shame the guy basically out of his career and out of his home and everything out.
Wow. And it's just you can see, you know, internet justice being metered out by these anonymous moms.
Yeah, it's like that Steve Bartman guy at the Cubs, the Cubs game, who ruined their World Series shot.
Oh, the guy who stole the ball. Yeah, well, he knocked it out of the player's hand and they lost the game and the
Bluesing did not make it into the World Series. Like that guy, he's kind of dropped off face of the earth, right?
Like people are trying to find him and he's, you know, he's gone. People are still trying to find him. Yeah.
Well, we got no, another we're done with packs. We got one more event coming up. We got the Alamo Drafthouse event.
I need to correct myself. Oh, sorry human human flesh
Search is what it's called is a phenomenon of massive research using internal media such as blogs and forums
They should definitely rename it meat search. It is based on massive human collaboration
The name refers both to the use of knowledge contributed by human beings through social networking as well as the fact that the searches are usually dedicated
Defining the identity of a human being who has committed some sort of offense or social breach online. People conducting such research are commonly referred to collectively as the human
flesh search engine. Wow, that's interesting. It's like a collective. So what you were just
talking about reminded me of that, you know. Okay, it's almost like a distributed processing on a
human level. You know, I've seen how like disputes get resolved and how people organize
and forms in the set and the other thing. Probably not the best system. I'm just saying.
Now that you know you're in a convention trying to download a game at the booth with the people
who made the game. Uh-huh all fun and jokes right? It's like personal piracy right there.
Are you trying to get away from packs? We should talk about the panel.
No I was just trying to talk about our event tomorrow, but no, the panel.
All right, we should talk about it. It's a good segue because it has to be
a little bit more. Yeah, you guys want to be alone to talk about this? I can
step out. Me and Joel can go ahead and drink. So the panel went really, really well. I
think I was an in it, but I introduced it, but I was an in it. How do you
feel about that? Feel about what? Do you want to talk about it? You brought it up.
It hurts. No, really. You brought it up. Why would you bring it up? What? That you
weren't on the panel. It's a body. I was under saying. God damn it. But you said it though.
Do you feel bad about it? No, no, I don't feel bad about it. Well, you shouldn't because you
don't deserve to be on it. That's it. That hurts. Do you feel bad that they're going to mute
all your dialogue in the podcast? That's true. I was recutting you said in the past. What do you know,
guys? I am stupid. We were showing at the panel, we were showing the first couple episodes of season 8 of Red
Versa Blue.
And we showed another video to start off with.
We talked about in the podcast before, we're Gus and Jeff were sore last week.
They made this video.
Oh, I got horribly sunburned.
Yeah, and when you jack it's a horribly sunburned, right?
And so we showed that first.
And there's videos of the panel online if you really I'd probably want to spoil some of the stuff and see shaky cameras
It's what we showed. Are we leaving those up? I?
What do we do take down everything on the internet? I know Brandon gets excited about that stuff
God so yesterday we have someone who's been uploading achievement 100 videos to his personal YouTube page
You're the one what talk to talk about the panels.
And he starts talking about it.
And then he's leaning with his fucking derail the conversation.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
We're talking about what you wanted to talk about.
And when we get into it, you fucking change the subject.
Gus should be.
And then this was going to stay away until we were going to talk about next.
We even talked about it.
Gus should be a third grade teacher.
Gus, do you want to talk about it?
No, we're going to talk about something else now.
So I let Brandon off the leash to take this guy's sight down and he destroyed it and
Brandon was like extremely happy. So I'll just continue with the panel. Cool story,
dude. I think he destroyed it in destroy any way's sight or anything like that. Well,
it's YouTube. He just had video taken down. Yeah, that's it. It was pretty funny. It's very
not a killer. So the panel, you want to talk about this? Yes, some more. So the immunity
on this person, it was. Yeah. Brandon started human flesh search engine. So the immunity on this person was ran and started human flesh search engine
So the panel went well and we're gonna be showing similar some of that stuff at our Alamo event tomorrow night
April 1st we're gonna be showing all that stuff and a new video at the Alamo
Drafthouse tomorrow April 1st, by the way, should we talk about April 1st?
Yes, we showed it's tomorrow. How fucking sick are you of the fact that our anniversary is about April 1st? Yes, we should. Tomorrow.
How fucking sick are you of the fact that our anniversary is on April 1st as a company?
I thought it was kind of cool at first.
So did I.
And every time we say we're going to do something on April 1st, now everyone thinks it's a fucking joke.
For now, seven years in a row.
Yes.
Every year, we haven't played a joke.
We really show stuff.
We really do something.
We really do have cool new announcements for the year.
No one believes it. Is this an April Fool's joke?
And here's the way April Fool's works, guys.
If we say we're going to do something on April 1st,
April Fool's jokes are jokes on April 1st.
We don't make jokes about April 1st before April 1st.
That's not the way April 1st works.
You don't make jokes about the date.
You make jokes on the date.
Yeah.
So we're not making jokes about it.
That was kind of funny. The company started on the date when you make jokes. Are date. Yeah. So, we're not making jokes about it.
That was kind of funny, but company started on the date when you make jokes.
Are you guys joking right now?
No, we're not.
In fact, I actually had a funny idea that we could do for our webpage, for April 1st,
but just because we don't do any April 1st jokes, we decided not to do it.
I see. Now, now you just make it sound like it's an April Fool's day.
No, no, he said that.
No, he said that.
The more we don't do April Fool's day.
Right, right.
The more, and passionately you make that argument, the more it sounds like you're trying to set something up really
Jesus krauka we're moving our we're moving our anniversary. Now that is a company March 31
Can you do that? We got April 3rd or something? I don't know speak
Speaking about it. We'll do the third the third Thursday in April
We have let's make it let's make a tax day. We have our one year anniversary for the podcast coming up to really yeah
It's April 10th. It's when we first started doing weekly podcast. It's crazy
We move we used to be on Mondays, I think is when we would do the podcast
So the dates are gonna line up quite right. So I think we'll celebrate this podcast number like 57
58 57 I think yeah, let me give away this joke that we were gonna do was that I thought and I presented and then we
Go's no we're not doing any of the first jokes
I thought it'd be funny to take our
webpage and then offset the image and like make it slightly opaque or slightly
transparent, excuse me, so that everything's all blurry and that we've moved our
webpage to 3D and then you have to order the glasses from us in order to
want to read the webpage. That's clever. And we'll be the first webpage in 3D
since everyone's so excited about fucking 3D. Back in the day we talked about like
when we were still doing drunk gamers before, red versus blue and
research teams, we talked about having like a premium sponsor model, very similar for the website,
where you would not see the letter E in any of our articles, unless you paid us, you know,
$5 a month or something for premium access, because E was the most used letter, and therefore
consumed them a most amount of bandwidth.
Right.
Transmitting all those ease costs.
That's a lot of money.
So to cover our overhead, you could either not have the ease
or pay to have the ease.
So you're just a fucking awesome idea.
I do, we should do it.
We should do it.
So is there anything else we want to talk about today
or should we wrap it up?
Because I know we got some shooting to do today.
And something.
Yeah, I want to talk about it.
Since we're talking about 3D and it just came up.
I want to note that there were two booths at packs that had 3d games with glasses
Mm-hmm. So get ready. It's coming and Nintendo announced this 3ds sort of it's called
But then I heard it's oh it's a 3ds and now they're saying no Nintendo never actually said that then
It's not really gonna be 3d and now that's just like rampant speculation and now what's reverse speculation is the what exactly is going to see.
If you get a 3D game and then you put it on a 3D TV, do you go into another dimension?
You go back and you go back and on.
I read that Sony is going to patch the PS3 with an upcoming firmware update this summer
to allow for 3D gaming.
Do some hubbub about them removing Linux from the PS3? What's that about? Well,
up until now, the PS3's always had an option in the menu to install other OS. So you could run Linux
or like custom operating systems on the PlayStation, but with the latest firmware update, that's gone.
What was the benefit of doing that besides bragging about it? Some people were pro. I think the reason
that they ended up removing it is I think some people had written custom Linux distributions for the PS3 that allowed them to rip blu-ray movies. Oh nice.
So go figure Stoney turns it off then. Right. What a surprise. Like you can't put the genie back in
the fucking bottle. Yeah. People are just gonna not update it or they're gonna you know how the
internet works. Yeah. They're gonna find ways around it. So I heard Clash of the Titans has killed
3D speaking of 3D. It might have, right?
It might have.
It's like, it's here the 3D, like they shot it 2D and then sort of like reverse engineered
3D out of it.
Oh, it's not going to work.
And apparently it's terrible. They're talking about doing that with Star Wars.
Yeah, yeah. But I've heard nothing but bad, bad.
I've heard some bad, we need to stop the original trilogy.
No.
And Laura the Rings are going to do.
Not the original trilogy, the special edition. No, and Laura the Rings are gonna do not the original trilogy the special edition. Oh, sorry
Yes, the special edition original. I'm gonna say to franchise where they're just like making it worse every
I'd go see it. I'm sorry. I don't say I definitely go see it. You would go see it too, Joe
I would go see it
I then now in complaint after what I would bitch about it before I'd go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I would go see it. I of the coolest things I've seen ever. Yeah. Yeah. And I was the only time I've actually ever seen, um,
well, the original print on an, in a theater because I was too young when it came out.
So,
were the original prints 16 millimeter and not 35?
I think they probably had both.
Okay.
But he has, I think he has a 16 copy of it.
I think that was 79 or 80.
Well, it was 77, 79, 81 or 82.
82.
82.
Yeah. So, so it was before you were born. Before I was born, 79, 81, or 82, 82, yeah.
So it was before you were born.
Before I was born.
What were you born?
82.
So you never saw a single Star Wars movie in the theater.
Nope.
So what were you released to them?
Oh yeah, the re-releases.
So let me ask you this.
Did you grow up a Star Wars fan?
Kind of.
Like I was born to comedy's and stuff
when I was growing up as a kid.
My dad raised me on like blues brothers
and cannonball run and stuff like that.
And so I really like that kind of stuff.
But I never really on the sci-fi.
It's probably actually until I started getting the computers probably around like eighth grade or so.
So I guess around the time you could have either gotten into girls or nerdy stuff.
Exactly.
I was the nerdy stuff.
How did that make you feel, Jack?
You want to talk about it?
You brought it up.
You want to talk about it?
You have a pillow?
You want to tell me about the Blues Brothers again.
We can do this in VR style.
But we've done that already.
So what was the first time that you saw Star Wars a new hope?
And how did you see it?
I probably saw it on VHS.
How were you?
It didn't come out for a long time.
Right, right.
You may have seen it on HBO if you ever had that.
I know when I was a kid, that's how I would wait for it to come back on HBO.
I'll tell you what, the first movie that I remembered seeing in a theater that really
blew my mind was Jurassic Park.
That was, I think, sixth grade for me, and that was the movie for me.
That was my Star Wars, I would say.
That was a movie that maybe you want to get into filmmaking.
Really?
Yeah.
I can tell you which theater I saw it in.
I saw the Alamo Lake Creek up in North Austin.
I saw it probably six times the first week and it came out hmm. Yeah, I remember I literally would go
Go see the movie get out go back and get in line to buy a ticket for the next one
I wonder if you've even seen the original I guess you have seen the original
Trilogy like the way they aired theatrically or I yes
Yeah, they were for a while and I think they're gone. Yeah, so you didn't see Star Wars in the theater
No, you did not see Indiana Jones in the theater. I will I have now but not when I was a kid. Right interesting
Yeah, very interesting. But by you guys you were born after Star Wars, right? I was born in 78
I saw I was I was too young to remember but I saw Empire in the theater and I do remember seeing Jedi in the theater when I was
So when did you see Star Wars like anytime like I said time I'd wait for it to be on like HBO or something.
My family didn't have HBO, but I had a neighbor who did.
Soon I knew Star Wars was going to be, you know, back in their rotation.
I'd go over and watch it constantly.
Okay.
You know Joel, think about that.
Can you imagine today if they put something out the players?
By the way, I was on set when they shot this.
Oh, were you really?
Yeah. Jack was good friends with Chubaka.
You were not really on set, were you? No. Okay set were you no okay who knows I am I am that old you said that
with confidence well you were old no when it came out you saw the theaters I
told that that's the thing I know what you were getting ready to say you know
where it's like I'm not sure that it's possible to have an experience like you
know I remember being like seven or eight seeing Star Wars in the theater going
this is unbelievable and then it's gone
Yeah, I know it's gone. It's gone for years and years and years
You just talk about it for years. Any any access you had to that universe to that whatever you do it like that
I remember the action figures. Yeah, that's the thing you can get the toys blew up right?
Toilet toy like try to recreate the story in your mind or like try to remember it
I mean I could not watch it like that's the thing like we spent more time probably recreating it in our head
Going over it than we did viewing it, which is now that that does not it does not how it works now and there weren't TV shows
And video games and no, no, like any access like if like if like Harrison Ford was on a news interview it'd be like oh my god
I just remembered I actually had a VHS copy I recorded it off of HBO
But when was it it was it was like oh
Shit I must have there's like a Fadi eight. Yeah, I like I put them on to be a copy them on to VHS
And like that's what I would do like I would watch on the weekends, right?
But even when there's still then even then it was like a VHS copy that I made off of my TV
Even like return of the Jedi came out. They didn't re-release the other ones
You know, I think maybe I heard they did but then limited runs
But you just had to remember what the story was about. I saw Star Wars in the movie theater
I saw it 36 times in the theater. She is because there's also a kids movie so all my all my parents friends
Yeah, I want to see it over and over again, too, so we were always going to see that move
That's it was like a medal that you wore. I saw it 12 times. I saw it again. It's all 13 times
So yeah, man, I can't imagine how many times I went and saw
But you know, but just movies combined. It's just a testament and I mean it we've come such a long way that now we have so much
Available on demand and instant access what's like we were talking such a long way that now we have so much available on demand
and instant access.
What's like, we were talking about Disney
and how they like, we'll put stuff in the vault quote unquote.
It's like sort of create demand or whatever.
I mean, I think there's something to it.
I think so too.
And look, I mean, we're talking about Avatar.
It's coming out next week or the week after on DVD.
Mm-hmm.
That's crazy.
Yeah, well, I mean, who makes that decision nowadays, you know, you know, not
the director probably anymore, you know, it's probably the studio heads, you know, where
it's just like, I would imagine James Cameron was heavily involved in that decision.
Did you see the, was he?
I don't think anyone's going around James Cameron, determining when his movie's in
the movie.
I'm sure no one wants to upset the music with his-
Do you think one is a dollar filmmaker?
Yeah.
Did you see the thing, but-
I guess so. Do you see the thing that James Cameron
So there's not gonna be any trailers or previews or commercials on his DVD because he's like my movie made two billion dollars
You're not putting commercial
Yeah, I mean that's a moot that's a DVD you're gonna have for 10 years
You don't want to see like coming soon, you know the blindtag to it's just like it avatars gonna be like
Avatar's gonna be the twister of new systems. Do you remember when DVDs first came out and people were showing off their stereos?
It was always fucking twister.
Really was it?
But the movie that sold DVD players was the Matrix.
See, I remember reading about DVD players and everything and reading about home theaters
before I could afford a DVD player.
It seemed like the movie that he always had in the screenshots was the Fifth Element. and I think that's the only reason anybody saw the fifth element was because of DVD the shot of her jumping off
Mm-hmm to the city's capet that that and dark city those two movies you would
Majority it extremely well on DVD. Yeah, but you would never have heard of dark city
Yeah, and the fifth element if it hadn't been for DVD coming out. I think I saw the fifth element of theater
I saw like the city in the theater. I saw dark city on DVD. I feel why I saw the theater, but then I then I saw Matrix. Oh, this is dark city too
Basically, and then it was like what's dark city so much better than this?
The dark city was really good. You thought dark city was better than the Matrix. Uh, I should say it dark city
Zedder than the Matrix trilogy. Well, that's one movie. So compare Matrix to dark shit the fuck up. Fight fight fight. All right, well let's wrap up
We got a lot of work to get done. All right, not no other plugs everything everything good. We got to eat things tomorrow of your
In town, uh, or resets hold out. How about the first episode of Reverse Blue Season 8 is tomorrow. That's right April 1st. What time?
What? 7 p.m. Central.
Jokes on you. Um, what time are we going to put that up on the website? 8th, that we're going to have a-
Oh, that's a really good question.
And one that we are debating, I know that it'll be of three hours ahead of everyone else,
four sponsors it'll be up.
And then we're also trying to work on a way to do some other cool stuff for sponsors as
well, but we're still working on it, so I can't really talk about it.
But please watch the website if you're a sponsor, because I would hate for you to miss it.
It might be a limited window kind of a thing.
Thank you.
So, be on the website. So probably around what afternoon I guess
Look is wrong with you, but you've got like weeks without pissing me off and all of a sudden here we are
And you're not even in your normal seat
Jolts in the shit seat
Dark City made $14 million the box off awesome. Let's then Tron
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