Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #57

Episode Date: April 14, 2010

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It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnet and Anthony Mackie comes the new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-octane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnet, and Thomas Hayden Church.

Twisted metal, streaming now, only on PCA. Maybe this guest star right in the bus man wants to smell I think they catch us far without further ado. Let's get started Hey, everyone. Welcome back to the acapella hip hop section. I'm the head of the podcast. I detected I detected a beat in there. Yeah, no That's why it's acapella hip hop. He was good good stuff there. You think I got a bell of me He's got two mouths He could be the next pop loose Hey, you guys want you guys watching any pop loose lately? You love pop loose. I'm not a fan. What the fuck is pop loose? I don't even know what that is That's a chick on YouTube that Bernie's always watching who looks like a dude. It's a chick who like she breathes

Things where she doesn't actually Got a really good voice though oh you guys are fucking crazy she's not singing she's talking no no she's singing she's talented the guy who's with her that guy is crazy talented though I'll give I'll give you that what makes you say that I mean what why is he like a place to fucking instruments have you seen his other stuff he's done by himself nope he did this one thing I think it was like radio head mixed with Beethoven it was really really cool He did this one thing. I think it was like radio head mix with Beethoven. It was really really cool. They called gay. Yo head nobody cares.

Is he a chick? Is he a is he a kind of cute chick? No, then who cares? You know we're we're I haven't checked this morning, but we may have passed hot for words on YouTube. We did man. We did. I don't I don't want to do that. I already checked. There is no way that you're at Comic- at Comic Con will be the bigger the bigger YouTube star Here we run we run into her dude that that Comic Con seeing her at Comic Con was amazing Did we ever talk about that in the podcast? Yeah, I think we probably yeah, no reason to rehash it Yeah, we've had we added an account. Did we take over the Rissu T2Count? We must have right yeah

It wasn't ours and we it was sitting idle and we requested it We were given it nice see I mean when we got it when we got it it had zero videos uploaded and for some reason still had 10 followers Oh, so it's like RRT that you were the president But the we took it over and then we started putting up videos on YouTube And so once we started doing having an official RRT channel We've kind of over the course of the last year have grown in subscribers and we've been passing people like

we just passed Chris Crocker the Lee Britney and the guy and we passed him at a brick next speed. I can't believe he is like the one video that YouTube was made for which is just him saying bitch please about 42nd straight just over and over again. I haven't seen that but it's also awesome. And then sadly this week we passed Maureen or Lovva. Maureen or Lovva. Hot for words. What is wrong with the internet?

Yeah it makes no sense. Did a chick that's that awesome and smart obviously because she knows words. It better be behind that. She could speak very well. She's a very talented. She's well spoken for a lady. Why isn't she the most popular thing on YouTube? Period.

Why isn't she the most popular thing in the world? I mean, it's like a bite-sized show with a hot chick. You just think that would just tear it up. And you're learning. And you get smartified. Now we've, yeah, she's brunette now. Have you seen that? I saw that. I don't know what she made that change I looked at the at the page recently and saw a brunette

I thought someone else had taken over no until like I loaded up the video and realized it was still there if if anyone Listening to the podcast knows her please tell her I said hi Everyone listen to the podcast knows her congratulations. Yeah Wait, so also why are you listening to our podcast? Have you seen the new thing too? There's some lady who's, I see her in the related videos for Hot for Words, where it's just a hot lady working out every day, and she posts herself working out. Oh, I think I've seen her in this really good video. Well, that's just silly.

Millions of views. That's it, related videos. Millions and millions of views. Brilliant. Hey, I feel like real fast, I should say a thank you to the dude that sent me the Dan Tees in Fernow, White Hot, Kayan Pepper hot sauce. I don't know who sent it, but I haven't had it yet, but it looks delicious. Oh, it was Zorda.

Zorda. XO-R-D-A on the website. Oh, thank you. Well, have you never talked about your hot sauce encounter at Pax? Oh, yeah, I don't know how it happened I guess we were talking about the man one day and now hot sauce has become my thing and it never really was But some dude came by the booth and challenged me to try a million Scoville hot sauce In schoolville of course is like the rating the rating for spicy things. Yeah, I was gonna hold for your tongue right? I think a jalapeno is 7,000 Scoville if I recall. Yeah, and then a habanero is like 40,000. Yeah. Anyway, now it's just like

the Richter scale where it goes up and magnitude to 10. I don't know. And then of course this hot sauce like I said is a million. But I did try it and it was hot. But I survived. And this is a now fucking I conquer the millions go, but I'll be the hot sauce guy. I don't think you said that it's gonna be my thing now. You said the man was worse though, right? Um, it's hard to the man made me sick for the rest of the day. That also puts you in a bad mood and it put me in a bad mood. This hurt really badly for about a half an hour And then I was okay. So I don't know six or one half does the other they're both hot as shit. It's like I don't know I don't know how to hot is hot, right?

What did that hot sauce that you got sent to you is that does that I have a scoval rating? I'm not I can't find a skill of writing anywhere So I got a scoval writing what would be the Sun the Sun would be the Sun's like 50,000 What would be Marlena or Lovah? She's scoval 500 million God, why don't you want to blonder a brunette what you prefer? I did that doesn't matter or Lovah makes no difference I just care about the message So and then I'm looking at Scoville units here. I guess pepper spray is 5 million

So if you ate pepper spray I never thought of using pepper spray as a condom you know I've been pepper sprayed before it's not fun. I mean you go gas. They make you do in the army Oh, basically see us gas. Yeah, it sucks It sucks bad. So what is that is that literally just pepper in a spray? I don't know dude. It's like Getting punched in the throat and the eyeballs and the nose with like a thousand tiny needles. It's fucking this brutal You see it's you see this like a bunch of big grown men like with like, snott trails going all the way down to the ground, crying in a corner.

Why did they make you do this in the army? Like what's the point? Is it just a fuck with you? Just to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to understand what you're gonna be up against and to reinforce that you should keep the fucking mask on. When we tell you to put the mask on, put the mask on. Otherwise, you're gonna be on the ground again.

What do you think was the last time that a Soldier was gassed in common a US soldier World War two Right Korea maybe didn't they didn't they wasn't their gas in the Gulf War? There was seren gas in the Gulf War. Yeah, that's a little different. That's totally different. They bitch who in a seren gas No, there's a different for you for that. Yeah No, whenever it's a syringe of you for that. Yeah. No, whatever is this a wrench? Whenever I think of, of Gassy, I always think of like World War One, like the trenches and shit like that. Man, they do train you how to use those fucking atropine injections too.

That's what I never want to do. No shit, do they really? Yeah. I mean, clearly you don't have to do it. You don't have to do it, but yeah, there's a whole process. I had to do it and you jammed on your thigh and it's a... Oh, you don't put it in your heart? No.

Yeah, has that a movie thing or is that... I think it might be a movie thing. Goddamn. It's a you know putting your heart. No. Yeah, is that a movie thing or is that I think I might be a movie thing goddamn Michael Bay. Yeah, they can you what do you have to hit like you're from oral artery with it or gonna go anywhere in your They didn't teach us the aim for arteries They just how to in the in the thigh was what you needed to do. There was like a little diagram They should you know Matt did not know the difference in arteries and veins out there the other day Metal one. Yeah, I would get your blood. You're on you had a lot of John from an artery He didn't know the difference. What's wrong? Why the fuck we all talking about this anyway? We were having some weird conversation about that old myth that your blood is blue until it hits the air and then it's red. Yeah, that's not true. Yeah, and then did you

heard that before? Yeah, I've heard that. People say that when it's, or also in your system, it's when it's less oxygenated like come on the return from the lungs That it's a different color than when it's going to the lungs You know, I was watching when I was a little kid I was watching blood sport with my cousin and at one point one of the dudes gets hit in the head and like the blood is kind of It's a shitty movie so the blood is like black and I was like why would that guy's be blood be black? Is he like an alien and my cousin explained to me that brain blood is black And that's how you know if you're gonna die because if the blood that comes out of your head is black

Then it's brain blood and there's no coming back from that I believe that until I was probably 14 You know maybe older. I was we had that conversation last week with my brother telling me stuff And you know, you just believe it. I also had some things like you must have had in your life something that you believed Much longer than you should have. Whether it's just like a way to spell a word or like some kind of grammar thing. Like I thought that there was two versions of the word separate

and that one was used as a verb and one was used as an adjective. Like I have two separate pieces of paper and I'm going to separate these pieces of paper. I thought there was two different spellings of were. I think I got the Affect and Effect applied to that word. Yeah. That's interesting. I also had there's also kind of what was that thing that somebody told me. Oh, I had a teacher who told me point blank a science teacher that told me that gas is a super cool liquid and

that's why older windows over time they flow and they get all warbly looking and they get thicker at the bottom because gas is actually a liquid but looks like it's as close to solid forms as you get glass not gas what I say yes or glass okay glass glass flows over time it's it's not quite a solid this is not true by the way this is something that a lot of people believe and I was told this by a teacher and I have believed that my entire life when did you find that it wasn't true I think I found it on like a snopes or Wikipedia just randomly when we were in Amsterdam there was a bunch of like

glass like that and you explained that to me and I believe that I was sorry I'm sorry I discovered this last week man I was like man why is man, why is the glass all suck and answered him? And you're like, well, it's like 300 years older than glass. It's gonna be a cool liquid. And I was like, oh, okay, science. Wait, so what is that phenomenon then when glass changes? I don't think it does change. It does, and it's just the shitty glass.

Yeah, they're older building, so they were made. I've read the way I read this, the way they used to make glass pains is they would glow, you have a brother-in-law who's a glass blower. Yeah. Yeah. And they would blow a globe and then they would shake that flatten that out and turn that into a pain of glass. And because of that process was imperfect, they would end up with these warbly looking shabang shabang. Shabang shabang. I had a teacher in ninth grade who tried to teach us about the concept of ONWEE, except she would only pronounce it NUI. And my friend Frank, who was one of the acoustic in the immersion script, was like, don't you

mean ONWEE, ma'am? And she's like, no, it's NUI. And Frank was like, no, I'm pretty sure it's ONWEE. She's like, no, you're wrong. It's NUI. End of story. Really? Yeah, so she taught the whole class about NUI.

Did she ever get disproven? No, no. How is that gonna come up? If only they had the internet back then you get a dictionary.com Have you ever used that word in context once in your life on we? No, yeah only in that class I always had to say this in UI isn't it a isn't that in the New Year's song is it all like all like side? Yeah Maybe I'm mixing up some stuff here. Maybe I'm using it as a verb. So I put it in it.

That was the God in Avatar, right? Onway. What? No. No. Wow, dude, that was great. Hey, take it easy. We like to welcome money back to the house.

No, we got a Jack this week. Because of an episode of the Sims Thanks best. Thanks for making sure they knew that goes that I'm sure you remember I get that song and Keep your eye on the grandled flag confused because of one song one episode of the Sims Homer sings and my old acquaintance Be forgot keep your eye on the grandled flag. It's stuck like that in my head now Did you see what the essence guys did for the South Park guys? So today is the two. I already saw you enough to tell them. I'm telling everybody. I haven't seen this. Shut the fuck up. Damn it. So tonight is the 200th episode of South Park

and the guys at Sipsons cinema, a congratulations card that said, Hey, congratulations on 200 episodes. We already did it twice. It seems kind of bitter. Yeah, it's pretty cool. What are they saying to the family guys? I don't know, bomb, maybe. No, that's Millions Goval hot sauce. As far as I can tell Bernie, the word on-wee is not in the lyrics for all-length songs. It is in the old Frank Sinatra song.

Fighting Vain Lee, the old on-wee. No. And you, I, excuse me. And you, I, my teacher should have known that one. You think you could have slept with any of your teachers? 17-year-old Jeff couldn't have slept with anyone on the planet. That alone had a teacher.

There were some teachers that I think students could have slept with. Yeah. This one teacher who absolutely hated me because one time I, well, I did a lot of stuff to her. But she threw me out of class and wouldn't let me back in the 12th grade because I was a stroller person What I found I found her slim fast and I hit it from her and then she had to ask the class who took her slim fast

And she's all embarrassed because she's trying to lose weight and that's the whole thing But I think I think there's a lot of guys that could have slept with her probably really why She just was kind of young and dumb seem kind of slutty I think I had a single teacher I would have wanted to sleep with when I was a kid. Not the Trapper Keeper lady? No. I think in high school there was a single teacher. But it's just weird. That's when it came out of nowhere where now all of a sudden all these teachers, female teachers are getting busted for sleeping with their students. Yes, some lady in Florida just got sentenced to five years. I mean, I saw a ton of my male teachers, but I know P.E.K.O.

which isn't what I'm not. But yours and the church are prepared you for that though. Oh, wow. Yeah, I went there. You know, we're going to go through podcast. You know, you know, what's what there? All the priests. We're going to go through one podcast one day

where we don't offend some small group of people. Even the boring podcast. It'll be the shortest podcast ever. Well, it seems like we, uh... Well, let's just try to, let's make it this podcast. We're not gonna tell you. Anyway, now that we've offended the Catholic Church for the next two minutes, and teachers everywhere.

Okay, who else is in front of us in that YouTube, breaking thing? Like, who else do we need to pass? No, I don't know. There was no one I recognized on the current page, so I'm really... Like, Marino or Lovah was my current goal, and then to pass no I don't know there was no one I recognized on the current page so I'm gonna let me know or lova with my current goal and then after that I don't really know okay the the other thing too is that you know you there's a there's a big movement now with these the vloggers on YouTube and they actually are pretty savvy bunch it seems like and they're you know they're constantly making new accounts and adding those accounts and

moving them up and you know passing us in some cases with some of those things. So it's hard to say. It'll probably even out to where they'll be like this buffer of all the very popular vloggers on YouTube and then maybe some narrative stuff down below that. Does it matter? I mean, what is what is a high subscription count on YouTube gets you at the end of the day? Anybody? Anybody? Lardiger P6. Hey, did you, did anyone hear about the streamies from day. Anybody? Anybody? What are your paychecks? Hey, did you, did anyone hear about the streamies from the other night?

I did. Where did I get it going? Something. Did we, are we going to talk about this? It's going to bring it up real fast. Well, what do you want to know? What do you want to know? Well, apparently, I haven't watched the streamies.

I forgot that it was time, it was that time of year again. But the only reason I heard about it is because the next day the executive producers put out an open apology letter. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. And it's so dumb, the whole thing is so dumb. It's actually very internet, honestly.

You guys know I'm in that academy, right? Yes, you are. The International Academy of Web Television. And I actually talked about this a couple of weeks ago. I went up to the head screenings for the nominees and they had a screening in New York and they had a screening in Los Angeles. And I thought this is my first year in the academy. I want to take this as seriously as possible. These awards are very important to people I'm gonna go to one of these screenings and see it and I went to the screening and

Honestly, there was nobody there. I was in a theater of about 300 seats and there was maybe maybe 20 of the seats were filled and this was in New York. Yeah, this was in New York and this was I would say I didn't see I saw one other group there that actually had a web show It was just general public was held at a university. That's where they rented out the space to do the The nominee screening and after that I was like well, I don't really want to go to these awards. I already kind of went out of my way and spent my own money to go fulfill my duty as a member of the academy.

I'm not into awards ceremony just anyway, honestly. We're not nominated for anything. So there's no, I can kind of sit this one out and, wow. Apparently it was a major, major disaster, which now makes you wish I had the whole time. The only clip I've seen I guess like two presenters came out. It was a man and a woman on stage and then two people from the crowd ran up dropped their pants It started dry-humping them as they were trying to like read the list of nominations for the for the award

That was is that the embed like what else happened? The Oscars. That was Lisa Nova and Chris Hardwick You know, you know, yeah, he's at Nerdist. Yeah, you're a big fan. Yeah, I'm and Chris Hardwick you know yeah yeah he's at Nerdist yeah you're a big fan yeah I'm a Chris Hardwick fan yeah and see your friend or I'm okay you think me no Jack Chris Hardwick you guys friends at all Jack she's not gonna answer give me this tear down give me the dead air but yeah but actually those people who ran up there were actually part of her group that the YouTube group, the station. And those are a bunch of the vlog groups, people that have done the sketches that have gotten together. And so that was kind of, I guess they were doing it. So that was funny. But it was the other stuff that was going

on. First of all, they had Paul Sheer, who's the guy from Human Giant. He was the host. And apparently, this is all complete hearsay from stuff that I've constructed from reading online. Apparently, he didn't know much about web stuff and they had a string of technical problems combined with bad creative choices, with the people who produced the show, that just essentially ground everything to a halt. Apparently they were showing a pre-produced video on a DVD player. The DVD locked up and there was in a, literally a room full, a theater full of producers. This was an unsolvable problem. This could not, there's nothing that could be done.

And it brought everything to a halt. They're streaming this live while they're doing it. And they just, you know, futs around for like 10, 15 minutes. And then I think they had to reboot the DVD player and then when they rebooted it it started the DVD over from the beginning right and they were like 11 minutes into it at that point. 11 it was an 11 minute presentation. Yeah like they all the presentations from throughout the night had been on that DVD. So it started back over at the beginning from the very beginning of the show. And nobody could fast forward it. It took them forever to figure out how to get around it.

the beginning of the show and nobody could fast forward and I'd like to remember ever to forget how to get around it. And then some streeters ran up on stage and then there was and and strikers and also the Humming people. Yeah, the Humming people were they were a separate group of like street half naked people. These were fully naked dudes running across the straight stage like maniacs. And then there was apparently something in the middle that everyone really took exception to, which was a guy who came out dressed like a pimp and talked about what it's like to work in web content

or something like that. And apparently he was just ridiculously vulgar and inappropriate, like completely over the top. And then somehow sprinkled in with all this, I'm not gonna straight kind of read on this, but either the nominees and award winners were self-deprecating to the point where they were just ridiculing web content I can't illustrate kind of read on this, but either the nominees and award winners were self-deprecating to the point where they were just ridiculing web content as a medium

and saying nobody watches it, nobody cares. That was the theme of the night is that what we're all doing kind of sucks. And it doesn't matter ultimately. And it doesn't matter and we're bad at it and we can't put on an award show. And so it's been this massive massive cavalcade of just blog posts and people being upset. I read that I just deen right up and she said that she was embarrassed about it because of how vulgar it was that she felt bad for anyone watching the stream and it would be difficult to be taken seriously because of

how profane the award ceremony was. Sounds like the video game awards. Yeah that's a really great point. That's a really good point. It does sound like the video game awards. We're trying to be serious and then people do all this like the thing that pissed me off about the VGA's a couple years ago was when they had the winners painted on naked women. It's like really like that's that's the face you want to represent to the rest of the country as video gamers. Yeah, I mean we're trying you know video games to try and present themselves as being you know not juvenile. Yeah. You know, the more grown-up medium and being taken seriously as art and then that was the year the gamecock guys Bump the you know got in front of Ken Lovine

Cunts good lord just absolutely by the way. I want to before we get too far away from it I just mean she's completely hot. Yeah, she's super talented and I think she's like I think she's like I Think she's like a flea today type or that's a that's a genuine blog post from her I think where she's just a really super sweet person. Yeah, really tough like bordering on you know Maybe even a little saccharine kind. Yeah, she's really super sweet. Speaking of Felicia Day Did you see the guild got picked up for a fourth season? Where? She tweeted it. She tweeted it. I guess it's getting picked up for a fourth season on Xbox life. No cool Yeah, so great news for them. Congratulations.

Yeah. That's really cool. Yeah. That's really helped promote that game. That's not on Xbox. But it was, the funny thing about the awards was that what I'm reading overwhelmingly from that is honestly, there's two models to online content.

And there's a really cool thing going on. When I talk about the YouTubers being savvy, they're in the middle of the discussion, and it's pretty clear, Jeff, that they understand what they're doing. Like, they understand that they have a big audience, that they have a lot of people watching what they're doing. They call themselves one man studios, which I thought was pretty interesting.

You talk about like the Shane Dawson and all those guys. Yeah, it's basically like a Phil DeFranco, which was in the mix there. I don't think Shane Dawson's gonna be making a lot of blog posts. He might be talking about it with his hairson and all those guys. Yeah, it's basically like a Phil DeFranco, which was in the mix there. I don't think, I don't think Shane Dawson's going to be making a lot of blog posts. He might be talking about it with his hair and his eyes and stuff, but but Phil DeFranco is in the mix of that. That's straight-edge Phil guy. Is it straight-edge Phil? Well, SXC is typically straight-edge. He might be like internet to speak for sexy. I don't know who cares. Who cares? So they're in the

mix there and the other school of thought besides as YouTubers and they were kind of a second they were all thrown into one category even though in I don't know actually know if you can never verify who makes these posts but it was authored supposedly by Phil DeFranco. And he said that you know here we have a ton of views more views in these quote unquote studio back projects and we're all in one category and it felt like we were just an afterthought in this award ceremony when we were a major part of this online content movement. And then the other side of that fence

are those other people who make the narrative content and who now seem more like they do seem more studio-backed. They seem more, for lack of a better term, kind of junior Hollywood. Sure. And those people are so fucking embarrassed for no reason whatsoever. They are on blog post talking about how this award ceremony was a legitimize

Online content. Come on. It's supposed to make it to where it's respectable and all that and it's so it's so fucking clear From all those posts that this whole thing is just like Do they really believe in the web content movement or they just is it just this avenue to get to Hollywood and now they've been Blockaded by being associated with something that's That's respect that's with tall. Yeah, I think a lot of people look at it that way, you know, they they think They don't realize that the internet's a destination They think of it as just like a place they're passing through trying to get on to Hollywood, you know to other avenues Yeah, which I guess I mean if you're up front of it, I guess that makes sense But if there's a bad award ceremony just the award ceremony is just another production and a production being bad

Has no implication on your your show at all. Yeah, that's very true Not in any way like you look at let's go back to the video game awards thing the fact that spike TV Put on the worst fucking award ceremony in the world doesn't say a damn thing about the video game industry Right because the video game industry doesn't need an award doesn't care. Yeah, I mean sales why do we have to have an award ceremony we don't for everything it makes no sense yeah so so like the who what one what one BioShock won that year and the game cock guys came up and interrupted the game cock guys are fucking idiots BioShock is still around the more with their what the game guys are They got Bob by SouthPoke Media. SouthPoke Media.

Well, that's probably just a desperate move to try to get some attention, right? Yeah. Well, I think they were hurting for money, too. But it's very clear in the whole process that Hollywood has an award ceremony. So we're going to have an award ceremony. We're going to have pre-produced bids because their award ceremony has pre-produced bids. We're gonna have a craft awards that happen on a different day because that's the way the Oscars do it. Did they really do that?

They really did do all that. It's just, yeah. They really, like they had best sound design, best sound editing in a web series. I mean, have we built up enough of an academy of people who are experts in sound design in web delivery that we could actually own a ward something in that that seems bizarre to me which sounds best over your usb speakers basically I mean honestly the web I think the web awards at this point if you're going to do specifically for video and that's all this concentrates on

you can have what maybe eight categories you know that are very specific to web video there's nothing specific to web video I mean, there was a there was a vlogger category and that's about as good as you're gonna get You know, but there's like best animation, you know best dramatic series best comedy series best actor best before you know It's just like it's clearly just a minute of something greater than itself. Yeah, and that's good That's dumb who needs that? I mean if you're gonna have an online's good. That's dumb. Who needs that? I mean, if you're going to have an online content awards, what kind of makes sense?

That would be online. Right? Yeah, I agree. I mean, you get to do something cool and different. Nope, they're all getting together in a theater in Los Angeles. Dressing up. Red carpet.

And here's really something really embarrassing. I read about some guy who was nominated. He wasn't allowed to go down the red carpet because he wasn't allowed to go down the red carpet because the other Celebrity web series the celebrities were allowed to go down the red carpet, but there wasn't enough time Or ability to accommodate the nominees themselves literally one of those that who's the dude who's in the guild? You know the is it sand dream? Is that how you say his name? I'm not sure he I read something by him this morning He said he said that one of the people walking down the red carpet instead of one of the nominees was Patrick Duffy Wow, they they were bumping people out of the way for Patrick Duffy to come down and make the award ceremony seem more legitimate

What I think legitimate. I think Patrick Duffy. I know I do. Oh, it's Patrick Duffy have a web series Oh, I'm looking here at the winners and I see best ensemble cast in a web series is it serious I haven't seen called easy to assemble yes, actually actually it's good. It is it's a lot of names I've heard you know Ilya on a Douglas justine Bateman Sheri Oteri Tom Arnold at Begley Jr. to Meadows, Ricky Lake. Weird. It's Ileana Douglas' project and it's about... Oh, there's another weird thing to you. There was a whole category.

I said there's no category specific to Web, but this is one of the ones they had that was specific to the Web, which was bizarre, which was best product integration into a Web series. That was a big deal. Huh, who won that? In fact, one of the biggest deals about this awards ceremony tanking is the fact that one of the sponsors was rumored to have asked for their money back. Like, that's a big deal that it hurts our collective ability to get sponsors, Jeff. Where are you worrying that I'm so worried? Should we close up shop? Yeah, we should. Well, not legitimate, Jeff. What I heard was what I heard And I know of course I don't know as much about this, but you know You said there's best product integration in the web series. That's for easy to assemble

IKEA Apparently yeah, that's what I thought of it and what I heard from someone else who's also in the academy Not you what I heard from someone else in the academy was that IKEA was the biggest sponsor of the event So it was a little bit of controversy that IKEA is the biggest sponsor and then they turn around and get an award because of it. Interesting. Seems a little weird. Marina or Lovah not nominated.

What? Travesty. I have. What? David Wayne won something, right? Here's Patrick Duffy. For Wayney Days, I think. Here's Patrick Duffy at the Streamy Awards.

Sponsored by IKEA. And Kodak. Yeah. Patrick Duffy at the streaming awards sponsored by IKEA and Kodak. Yeah. Patrick Duffy. Yeah, I don't know. It's, it's, it's, it's fledgling. You have to go in that expecting it to be a little fledgling, I think. And I think it's, I said one post that the ceremony itself seems like the internet to me because you have a bunch of bad jokes a bunch of horrible noise You have dude rushing the stage naked you have a host of technical problems and then in the middle of that You have a couple people who are doing really cool stuff and you're excited That sounds just like the fucking internet. That's so the award for your life. Yeah It's mayhem and chaos chaos punctuated by people doing cool stuff that you want to see.

They just needed some people up on stage off on the side yelling, you know, racial epitets and obscenity to really round out the two internet experience. And they had celebrities. They could have was Michael Richards there, by any chance. They was. They could have even assisted. Zach Galifanakis also one didn't bother to show up. Zach Galifanakis one for that between two ferns show. Yeah, that's best show of the year best comedy show there

I like I like Zach Alvin act as that shows socks. I think it's so susuck. I think that's the point I guess but you know, then then that's funny once I don't know if that has to be and is a further continuation of this thing being a great representation of the internet is that come Monday come Monday morning Everybody at that award ceremony was essentially Taylor Swift, right and They were all just so upset. They were all just ruined and they were all except she didn't even like take to the streets and Cry about it. She let other people do it for yeah, but it has become now Real life internet drama where these people are just like

live it. People should be fired from the academy. This producer should be let go. It's I think we do. We need to bring our real life versus the internet video back out of it. Yeah. Out of the vault posted up again. I mean, we should. That was one of the first red versus blue videos I ever saw.

I think what real life versus the internet. Yeah. Yeah. That was like one of the first ones I saw and I was like, this is really, really funny and then I started getting into the series. Did you watch the Streamies? No. You, anybody?

No, the only reason I remember is like the day after it happened, I saw a bunch of tweets from Kent Nichols talking about it. Yeah, I mean, it was- I totally missed it. That's the other thing too, is that nobody would know. If there wasn't all the people who were supposedly offended by all this and I'm really not offended really embarrassed by it That it didn't legitimize them if they weren't talking about it. Nobody would know. Maybe it's intentional

Make you wonder. Yeah, maybe Maybe there's a lot of noise and a lot of people upset to get it to get people interested in it It makes it more interesting. Yep. Doesn't it? Yeah. It does. You need conflict. That's why we yell in the podcast. Because conflict is what people love. If we all just got along, yes. People are so boring. People love conflict.

As long as they're not part of the conflict, as long as they can watch it. Bite me. And I know you guys don't care about it. The management of the people listening to this don't care about it too. But I mean, this thing going completely wrong has actually done more for Solidarity in that community than I have seen in a very long time like people are actually talking about things as opposed to being wow I have a show with a million viewers. This is crazy. I'm the best thing in the world No one no one's ever done this before. This is amazing. Wow look at me. This is great. I love that you're playing with your hair while you're doing that

I'm a method actor on a happier note. We're having a hila to play date tonight. Hey love that you're playing with your hair while you're doing that. I'm a method actor. On a happier note, we're having a Hila 2 play date tonight. Hey, that's right. Y'all gonna just have your copy of the Hila 2? Yeah, I already found a copy. I'll be playing tonight. Was it 9-11 central? I think we're doing 9-11.

Well, you should probably do 9-12 midnight, because they shut it down in midnight, right? I think they shut it down in midnight Pacific. Ah, so 2am central. Right. Nobody, but you can keep playing if you want. We're not gonna stop you. I'm actually not gonna get in Pacific, so 2 a.m. Central. Right. No, but you can you can keep playing if you want. We're not going to stop you. I'm actually I'm probably going to get in late. Oh, yeah, what you got going on? I'm having dinner with a friend. Oh, yeah, what were you guys eating?

Somewhere up north, probably like throwing gills or something. Okay. Who's different? Okay. Patrick Duffy. Patrick Duffy. Well, they'd be bumped for Patrick Duffy. But yet I saw a post on HBO that Bungie has gone back and updated the did you know screens for Halo 2? That's halo dot bungee that word right? Yeah, halo dot bungee dot work. Yeah, not HBO Not home box office, which by the way, what is that the dumbest name for a channel ever? We were talking about dumb corporate names that you just take for granted that it's just a stupid name And we I think we all pretty much agreed that paypal

It's probably the dumbest name. I mean x.com. I know I was about to sound if you remember when it launched it was x.com X.com's way better then paypal paypal is just it's horrible because Joel is pointing out that friendster makes no sense. Why would they name a Big corporate company and a entity friendster and I said well actually would they name a big corporate company and an entity friendster? And I said, well, actually, fit at the time it came out because it was Napster. So this was friendster. So it made sense. He didn't get it. Go figure. I'm shocked and flabbergasted that he did not understand something. Facebook.

Like Amazon. Why is the book circle Amazon? Well, I read we have to destroy the trees and the Amazon Should be the forest one page of the time What I heard was that they weren't sure what they were gonna do when they started that they weren't sure like what they were gonna Sell specifically so they tried to pick a generic of a name as possible So that way no matter what they decided to sell it would they would work well a fucking work So good for them, you know know you can see on use net You can see Jeff Bezos's original post where he's asking for people to come help him build a site

Really? Yeah, that's part of the archive of use net. Wow. It's pretty crazy. I mean well like 92 91 maybe Yeah, that's pretty nice. Is there any sort of like like large place that holds a bunch of internet history? No, yeah like important events like that. Well, there's the way back machines. Google actually acquired a lot of the old original user archives that existed that have been missing for a long time when they put them online. Yep. I remember they found it was a real-to-real tape that had a lot of that back up.

And it was a big deal because the tape quality had degraded. They needed to do a lot of work to fix it. And then they need to find a fucking machine to read the tape. It was a big deal when it happened a couple of years ago. I didn't tie the ass. I know on Fark that. On Fark, I think every 9-11, they post the original thread

of the 9-11 thread. They're like reposted. That's just crazy to read that kind of stuff. And like the old iPod thread, so on Slashdot, talking about how crappy it's going to be, stuff like that. There's no like one place you can go to see all this sort of, you know, internet history, right? Not really. I mean, go to the internet where it was to begin with. But yeah, you're right. Those sites die and then what happens to them? Yeah, like Geosities. Like Geosities is gone. Like, that's ludicrous. What a loss loss how will we ever recover well I know my

first website was on geocities like the first one I ever made what a loss no but I know what you mean it's like and there are no caretakers there's just too much stuff to do that I was on some I was I sent Jeff a video that we had watched back in what 98 98 or 99 3 brain it's the we song. Oh God remember that fucking his world. I hate that. Do you really? When you're a kid and you want to go we? When you're kid and you want to go we? Griffin came to get me because I was painting in the bedroom and you had sent that on her account and I walked over and I started watching and started laughing and she just stood there and looked at me and was like what the fuck? What is wrong

with you? That's like all the rather good stuff, right? Yeah, I'm rather good at it for out about this sponge monkeys or whatever. Actually, the three-brain guys still have a website. It just doesn't have this on it. This is on albinoblacksheep.com. Do you remember that site? That was a new ground. That was a new ground.

It was old grounds. Yeah. And one of the other things that came up was a site called cool site of the day I remember that that was the cool side of the day that he goes back to 91 and they're still updating today and had the exact same HTML format that they had back then have we ever been on cool side of the day no we were not there home servers on the three fucking times what the fuck I don't know man I was looking even like the the first month when we started. Nope. We're not on there It's some of a bitch fucking home star actually what one of the blocks every I read the daily what which is just like that

It's post crazy stuff on the internet every day and I check it all the time and I noticed the other day that our immersion video got posted on the daily What I was really really cool. But I go crap. This is a site. I read or actually on it. That's neat Finally legitimacy see this I was really really cool, but I go crap. This is a site I read or actually on it. That's neat. Finally, legitimacy. See this one? We need no we need no award show. This is what we've been looking for all these years. And if only we get a golden web award then everything will be so cool. Oh wow. Wow, golden web award. What? I'll leave it up in. It's okay. You don't have to apply it. No. I gotta play it.

Sing along. Do you know the words So fucking long Oh But you inca-trux yet Don't as is try love it love it terrible and it's just that stuff is just missing it just goes missing You know it's like even ice the love in enough the series. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it's terrible now Probably terrible, but I would never talk about that. I'll bring that up every day. I'm wondering I wonder if you could even find it. You know, the homestart guys, one time in an interview just recently, they were talking about their 10-year anniversary and what the web was like when they started and they mentioned the strawberry shortcake. Miss Muffie. Miss Muffie. The wrapping strawberry shortcake thing. Youuffie. Miss Muffie.

The wrapping strawberry shortcake. And you guys loved the same people that did it. That's serious. Yep. But there were some stuff out there like that. Yeah. And it definitely wasn't consistent content like they did every week.

Internet stuff goes fast, man. It goes by really fast. Like you're talking about South Park. Have you ever watched the old Met Parker and Trace Stone? Yes's a park in metstone. I get a parker. Matt's Thank you. I'm at stone the history of America. No the shockwave stuff. They did remember shockwave Yeah, yeah, the princess princess. Yeah, I don't know if I'll be linked up in the Yeah, it's very rough. You can look at it yourself if you want to I'll put a giant NSFW blink tags around. Yeah, you should definitely look it up though.

That's one of the best stories in the history of the industry. There was a documentary about that whole thing. It really is. Like Flash came to them. Yeah, it was Flash.com came to them with like a million dollars. Yeah, and said make a Flash series. And they said, okay, but we want complete and total control. And they said, yeah, sure, whatever. Yeah, this is like season two of South Park had come out.

And so they made a flash series And it was called princess. Yeah, and they were there is wondering how can we like we push the boundaries of television on South Park How can we push the boundaries of the internet and they did a good job? Oh my god They made they made two episodes and that was it and they turned it in and then flash was like We'll get back to you technically. I think it was macro media Macro media that's right. I don't think flash was every company There's actually there's a documentary about that whole whole event on like views or something like that once Really?

There was a old thing that I used to watch called fat kid network and I don't know whatever happened to it I don't ever heard of that. Yeah, I shut it down fat fat kid as one word fat kid network and it was flash and it was awesome flash for the day Everything was flash like dabble core. Yeah, I know core There were course like some web design firm that never actually had a website They just did a coming soon site flash Intros for their coming site. We were all in love with their their flash coming since We were all in love with their flash coming since time. Anytime you're going to every week to see it with update because it's so crazy. Have you ever seen it like have you gone back to look at it?

It's it's changed a few times. Well, they archive somebody archive the old version Everybody went to and looked at oh that's terrible and we don't look at it go one day the Weble Weble Weble Weble Weble Weble Weble

Weble Weble Weble Weble Weble Weble Everything will be like Gabel Corb. What was your first ISP ever? A. Well. A. Well? Yeah. I think I was a prodigy. Oh yeah. God it was horrible. You had monies on your dozen-roll. Yeah, that's good.

Where's the money when you need them? So, you were talking about immersion. And you were talking about immersion. And I just want to let everybody know that we've had very positive response to immersion. So we've already started production on a few new episodes of immersion. Which should be coming soon. So excited. I love, too.

It's like, this is like the world's most perfect show because I just give brand an idea. It's like, all right, here's the thing I want to try. Let's do this and let's try this. And then brand is going to have to get out of the way to make it happen. Branded and Griffin. Yeah, dude. I asked my wife what she was doing this morning. I won't give any spoilers away, but she was going to the hardware store to build something terrifying. I look she's got plans

up on the computer this morning and I'm like what the fuck is that? She's like don't worry about it. It's like we'll get packages from these obscure companies and just like what's in that? It's like don't worry about it. You'll see. Yesterday in passing I was like walking out of the office and you had been talking to Brandon about something and you look at me You go man, you're gonna hurt so bad In the next video. It's gonna be really rough. You should be ready. I did clear one thing I was like I have to ask you before we spend money on this would you be willing to do this and to your credit You said yes you would yeah, yeah, I said yes to Gus is a baby though. I said yes to all three of those things I was like I don't know, I wear glasses.

I would do it if I could see. I think it's a little unfair for me to be blind on top of everything else. Ha ha ha. All right, that's it. Yeah, I'm a baby. You're replaced. You're replaced.

Okay, let's have Jeff do it with his fucking eyes closed. Yeah. I'll do it. How blind are you? I'm pretty fucking blind. Why don't you get lazy. Why don't you shut the fuck up? Why don't you get I'm serious? I'll get it the day my eyesight goes bad I'll be there waiting for the doctor to wait to open up. There's also another two is if you get lazy You're gonna need

Reading glasses sooner in life than you normally would yeah sure if you're gonna read Well computers for that shit You've already got your iPad right? Yeah I'm reading the I'm reading yes I'm reading. Did you get that Alice in Wonderland pop-up book? No but I'm gonna get it. I heard it's fucking awesome. They also have a Winnie the Pooh pop-up book I think that's supposed to be pretty cool but I'm reading like a Bikowski book I'm reading women. Wait but there's a pop-up book on the iPad. It's not a thing to use in the word, right? Oh, that's what it's called.

It's like a motion of work. Oh, okay. I don't know how to describe it. Like, the elements in the page move around and stuff. Yeah, and you can interact with it and you can push buttons and shit happens. Yeah. That sounds cool. The iPad in itself has been fantastic. So what I'm hearing here is that the iPad has now made books ADD. Yes

I think it delivered ads to why you're doing it like what you did to me. It's like hey, you want to cook? Come on. Do you want a delicious cake? Tri-portal So any drawbacks to it any drawbacks to the iPad? Yeah, you're our iPad expert. You're the only one with one. I can't think of any. I was worried when I... I will say this, my first impression when I got it was that it was heavier. And I said I got it's griffins, but that it was heavier and smaller than I thought it would be. But I got over that really quickly. Start playing a felon love with plants versus zombies.

I've been playing that constantly at home. Really? Reading, yeah, that game is great. No, that game's not good. Yeah, it's awesome. Have you played that game? Yeah, it games good I played it on the Mac though. I played like on my laptop. Maybe I just don't like tower defense games or whatever That's called plants versus zombies HD is great Especially when you get enough of the powers on lot that you gotta like start choosing your loadout every battle It's fun really fun. Nope.. Got the Netflix player. That works awesome. ABC.com player works really well. So what with the ABC player? Is it just like the same catalog that they have on the website?

As far as I can tell. Yeah, I don't watch a lot of ABC shows, but lost is on there. Okay. He showed me Netflix is like awesome. Yeah, I'm a huge fan. Like, I always, like, the, I guess like the early argument is that you've got a laptop and you've got a phone, why do you need this weird hybrid thing that doesn't do either function as well as the other two? But it's just super convenient. I don't know, man, you can kind of walk around with it without even thinking about it. In bed, I can check my email faster on it than I would do. I have to pull out my laptop and open it up, wait for it to turn on, the whole thing.

So you can watch movies and movies and play games wait for it to turn on, the whole thing. And, seeing why I like, I watch movies in bed with it, I play games, it's like super, super, super portable and convenient, and you just like set it down and forget about it, it's great. And the battery life is ridiculous, I didn't charge it for a week, and I use it every day. I finally charged it last night, it was like 12%. Interesting.

Yeah, I'm a huge fan though. Oh, and I got a brushes for Griffin, and that's pretty cool. It's like a little Photoshop That's cool. Yeah after my my you might be interested in this Jeff or Bernie after my discussion of how much I hated dimplast week Ben actually sent me I guess like a Photoshop alternative you can use it on the macOS. It's called pixel-mater. It's like a $60 app $60 program. I guess and it. Like, I'm not an advanced Photoshop user. You know, all the basic stuff I want to do, it can do just fine. You want a crop, you want a resize, I want a crop, I want a resize,

and you want to save it as JPEG. Maybe you want to keep making a layer in a race elements. You can open PSDs, do some sharpening, maybe fix some levels. Yeah, and the formatting, the way it's laid out is very similar to Photoshop. Looks great, works great. Doesn't have a Starburst filter. I haven't found it yet. Okay, CS5 came out, right? It's coming out. It was announced.

Is that going to have augmented reality stuff in there? Yeah, that content awareness stuff. Is it going to have the content awareness? Content awareness, Phil? Yeah, that's in CS5. Have you seen that video? It's pretty crazy. Yeah, I guess. It seems like it's a take on some of the other. Yeah, that's in CS5. Have you seen that video? It's pretty crazy. Yeah, I guess.

It seems like it's a take on some of the other stuff we've talked about before. Like I've linked up those videos where they do the automatic resizing and it's all taken care of in the application. It seems like just an extension of that same technology. So that will have the context sensitive resizing to? I don't know that they've announced that it'll have the

content or filtering yet or not. They all leave sit. Yeah, I have now in Photoshop CS5. Matt, I just will link up this, but essentially if you have a picture and you go to resize it, you're thinking it's something different. Content aware is something different than what you're talking about. No, it's the same thing. Are you sure? Yeah, I mean, it's the same technology. Yeah. Okay. I'm not gonna, so I was explaining it now I don't want to because I don't want to sound like an idiot. I'm gonna go Jack So Jack I'll make sure you're talking about the right thing. Tell me what you tell me what you're talking

Content aware is where like if you want to replace something or wipe something out like the demo They show is like a like a golf course or something like that and they remove a tree from the sky And then it out it like it content where ads in the rest of the sky, and like, replaces the tree. Trees in the sky. Well, like, the shot, whatever, fuck you. And then the thing you're talking about, the resize thing is where they were literally, like,

stretching and shrinking an image, and it added an elements to the image based on how, why the image was. Or removed to them as well, right? Yes, or removed to them. So it's also content aware. It's same technology, dude. I don't know. What do or it's also content aware. Same technology, dude. I don't know.

What do you think the words content aware mean? It's aware of the content. What's Amazon mean? Where does talking name stand? Amazon's a rainforest. It is a rainforest. It's the same technology. So if I was going to resize PayPal, what would happen?

The official x.com. The official sneak peek they showed is the one Jack talked about with the golf course resizing and the one birdie's talked about is the other video We've talked about and linked up in the past where it's the same technology But is it part of Photoshop is the reason I don't know that the resizing will be okay? I don't know. I don't know. That was a Adobe. No, that was a proof of content presentation. Yeah, that was pretty cool stuff The all the content of where stuff's pretty cool I mean they kind of have that already you could say that the magic wand is essentially the beginnings of being content aware come and got just keep fucking dagger eyes

there just gave Jack a look that could have wilted a plate you know I know it's bad because I was looking at my laptop looking up information about this content Where I think and I can hear it in my fucking headphones What happened you got into the microphone That was unintentional sorry Why else would just look at you guys that was an unintentionally That was an unintentionally warning. That was an unintentional warning on. Oh man, that was nice. Look guys, we're just trying to be legitimate here.

Stop embarrassing us. Stop embarrassing the medium. We are not going to win a potty award. Wait, I don't understand why that's funny. No, I'm not here. Now I'm here. I just want to be funny. But you know, there was a big thread in the drunk tank forum talking about it was a group

of people who did not understand why.orgasaurus was plenty and they were trying to figure it out together. Oh man. It's a gather we can do this. You hit Wikipedia. I've never heard of this.orgosaurus before. I'll get on the wave egg machine. I'll hit a ball of museums. We'll figure this out. When does CS5 come out? I thought it came out within 30 days I think. It was like the the content aware video we're talking about on YouTube said that it's going to

come out April 12th when I'm looking here on the Adobe website and it's all pre-order stuff. I could have sworn someone said happy CS5 day on a Twitter post. Well, I'm looking at the Adobe store and it's all pre-order. Unless it comes out later today. So does that mean they're upgrading pre-rear as well? Yes, it's upgrading. Upgrade. It looks like it's Photoshop, Creative Suite 5 design.

No, Creative Suite 5 master collection. Let's take a look. They'll be premier now with running Now crashes half as much. Yeah, that was 4% less memory leak Money is the only guy left in the office who's on PC and the poor fucking guy every time he wants to show you something to the desk it's like okay I'm gonna click it crash okay there is a new version of premiere there is yeah and money's also the only guy left in the office who still like pounds his desk I don't know if you noticed it being out there like he'll be in the middle of something all of a sudden you feel like smashing on the desk like is everything're money? He's like fucking my or fucking premier. You're here like, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click I was like, I don't know, who knows? It's because you don't use a PC anymore, and you don't have to deal with premiere. I bet that's it. I don't think that's it. I think that's it. I don't think that's it. A large portion of

the frustration of your life was progress bars and premiere and crashing. I think I think when we were, I think what's up with the hole in your desk portion, that's a machinima hole. That's a, that's a, that a that was I think you know not getting something the way I needed it to get it. It might be a crash who knows man. I don't know I just I I will do anything in my life at this point to reduce the amount of time I spend looking at progress bars. I have a really weird feeling that when you die depending how bad you are you to, as like some kind of form of punishment, you have to watch your entire life beginning to end

and it's an observer. And I can't imagine how much of that time I would spend watching me watch progress bars. Like it'd be terrible. Just staring at them, really every Thursday of your life. It's like, please move, please move. Now Mondays, right?

Progress bar Monday. I see that CS5 ships mid-me. Okay. Okay. I saw Jeff get super frustrated the other day with just cause two. You threw a controller. I did. I did. I don't do that very often. Just cause. Just cause. I am usually able to keep my temper under control I at least I think but just cause frustrating me so much that I did throw my controller across the room Twice but here's this thing. Yeah, well just cause to his great game, right? I'll just like just cause it's definitely an improvement on just cause very fun game I think just cause is very underrated just cuz to is very fucking buggy though and you have to do certain criteria I've made like four videos for a team 100

and they're all like accumulation or collection videos where like say you have to kill 10 guys in a certain way. And the game just just doesn't count for no reason some of those. Like if I had to kill 10 guys you know by hitting them with a car it would count one out of every five car kills. For no reason. It could be identical to the others. And there's this one, and you even came and tried it. You came in, I was trying to fly my plane close to the water for 30 seconds, like close enough to the water for 30 seconds, it gets this achievement. And I kept getting 15, 20 seconds, and then the plane would just crash into the water because you can't tell the distance, or it just would stop counting for no reason. And then came over and you flew super super close to the water and

It just never started tracking that for you right for no reason Out of less ten bucks and you lost ten bucks and he was doing it He was frustrated and all this like fuck. Give me that bitch ten bucks I can do it first try and I was skimming the water and it wouldn't start the counter at all and finally I thought well man to go just a little bit lower than the crash Yeah, and I had been doing that for like an hour and a half and it's just like just for one of a reason it just wouldn't Wouldn't count that that distance and so I got mad into my controller This is bad. It's not a hard achievement to get this is a bad example is the game fighting against me because you're playing a fucking video game

You should get over it But when you're when you're doing something around here and you're having like problems technically around here Mm-hmm or you're under pressure to get something done. Thank God we have such a supportive office environment. People just don't see that. How angry can we make him? This will be fun. This is my day. And the metal coming to go, that's weird.

It'll change all your settings, everything breaks in a week. I also think that maybe I'm as angry and stressed as I have been my entire life. It's just that now we have Joel. So, it's different. You know what I mean? It's like switching into a thermometer to Celsius. It's a totally different scale at this point.

So, what do you think about Twitter now doing ads? You hear that? You hear about that? They finally implemented a business model. Yeah, good. What do you think about that? Yes, implemented a business model. Yeah, good. Where are you from? Good. Yeah, it's good. I don't mind at all. I don't mind at all. Basically, the ad is going to pop up another Twitter post.

Like, you would normally see on your feed. It's like, oh, it's that one's an ad. And that's it. The irony is that if, I'm sure people will bitch about it constantly and say Twitter's a sellout now, but if Twitter didn't find a way to monetize their content in some capacity, Twitter would just go away. Did you get to get to everybody? Would can't let them on venture capital forever. Yeah. So fucking good, good for them. And I hope they make a billion dollars off of it.

Hey, did I hear everybody that uses their product for free? The Twitter acquire the company that makes Tweety. Yes. That's pretty cool, right? Yeah. Smart. That's pretty cool. You know what I wish there was on Twitter?

I wish there was a way that when you were following someone, this would be a really great Twitter client to get, where could just say all right I know I follow this person and they show up at someone that I follow I just don't want to see their posts anymore. You know, so it doesn't notify the person that I don't follow them anymore they can't tell you follow their feelings heard you follow them but you mute them. Exactly. So like if they have a major event in their life like say a new baby and they're tweeting about diaper changing every five minutes Just like hey, I'll come back to you in a month, you know, that's it. Just come tune down a little bit. That's a good idea

That's a great idea. I wish there's a way you could set it up where and nobody gets her feelings hurt Yeah, like on on the auto post or whatever like when someone gets oh, I got one achievement and a post your achievement on Twitter I wish there's something like it's send them a message and just warn them like, all right, you do another one and you're done and they give them like two shots and then after that, oh, unfollow automatically. I'm tired of seeing that kind of stuff like raptors really, really bad about. Well, there is a way you could do that though you could just reply to them. Yeah, send them a message. You have one warning. I'm too lazy to tell. I don't have a program. This is too nice of a guy. You don't want to do it yourself.

It's a fact that you're a guy. Sorry, it wasn't me. It was the robot did it. Did you ever read that story last week about the 12-year-old kid in the UK who ran up like $1300 worth of debt in Farmville? No, but how do you... Wow! $13,000 was the micro-$1300?

$1300 worth of the micro-transactions? What do you want to get his farm just right? And he took his mom's credit card and Bought a bunch of stuff for his farm. What do you do? What I don't get it? What do you buy? I've never played farm bill But I guess you buy like buildings and crops and stuff They're like just like set up a little virtual farm is that what is Jeff? Do you just you buy a farm and you just decorate it? That's it. I don't I don't I'm never played it

But what you're describing sounds like right at my alley and I would want to do that. You want to buy a farm and decorate the farm? Oh, it's like the Piano or whatever, right? I love that show. But it's like your friends have to work on your farm to help you or something on Facebook. Yeah. Like, I don't know. They talk about on South Park last week actually. You know what farm though, it needs? What's that? An award ceremony.

There they go. Oh, I guess what you can do is like when you start the you start the game You're given like virtual money to set up your farm and then like as you grow crops You get more money and you can buy more stuff or you can just use real money to buy more fake money If you're in a hurry So he bought a bunch of fake ones and patience. Yeah Can I say something? We I think we might have talked about this with downloadable content stuff before I'm totally okay with being able to short-circuit anything in a

game with real-world dollars. If you want to do that. Oh like being able to like max out your tiger stats. Yes. That kind of thing. Maybe not to imbalance multiplayer like you could always have it to where you can't bring a paid player in a multiplayer. Right. But you know. But if you wanted to like just in single-player unlock every car in fours of for $5 as opposed to playing for 50 hours to do That kind of thing. I'm gonna give you another example. Okay, Lego Harry Potter is about to come out. Uh-huh I would like to have an option to pay to unlock all the levels To where I can just play all the levels from the get go. I see because I have two kiddos and they all have to

Unlock them in their saves individually even though they play them in co-op or Hopefully Lego will just fix that because that's kind of one of the lame things about it is that you don't really get true Co-op credit the second player just is like a helper essentially. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah, I'm okay with that I really am okay I'm one of those people who things like I paid 60 bucks for this game. I don't want to unlock it If I don't want to unlock it, I don't want to unlock it, you know, that's my choice But I don't want to have a game where it's like I paid $60 for one tenth of this stuff that's on here. Right. And I'm going to have to spend 80 hours to play a certain level. You see, that's kind of how I feel about World of Warcraft. I know it's kind of

in a roundabout way, but I feel like, if I don't, like when I was playing a lot, I felt like, if I didn't play a lot, I didn't get to see the whole game. Yeah. There's like end game stuff that you'll never see unless you play constantly. Yeah. And get to the point where you can go see it. And people will say, well, like, that's what the game, you know, when you, I'm playing them on the board of my internet voice here, but that's what a game you need to play it. And then, but it's like, that is not fair. You can buy your way into that, but it's not exactly fair that you have 10 hours a day that you can devote to this game either. I mean, the fear doesn't play into it at all.

It's different scenarios in people's lives, you know. And I realized, you know, that one rewards a certain kind of play and one rewards the developer with money. You know, so I think we all know which direction it's going to head anyway. So, hey, speaking of LEGO Harry Potter and Kids Playing Games, I would like to thank you for suggesting that we get the mall, because my daughter has fallen in love with that video game, and it's the first game she's ever wanted to play, and she plays by herself. I watched her last night get to the first three levels completely by herself.

Cool, which is really cool. She's your help constantly, I was at the other night. That was Monday, she's way past that. She needed my help on level three, because she has problems with these specific turrets. They're required to smash A a bunch, And last night she figured out on a run how to get past it finally. And she was like doing flips. It was great. She was so excited. But yeah, like that. And that's such a cute fun kids game, you know. It's a fantastic game. Everybody should play it. It is. Yeah. Kudos to those guys that twisted pixel for

making it. And also making cute little stuff to animals that my daughter drags around town and loses a coffee shops and requires us to Go and yell at coffee shop employees until they find it a little stuff. You pick those up at Paxies, right? Yeah, we picked them up at Paxies. I didn't most fucking frustrating. Anything happen. Millie left her Left the mall at a coffee shop and then Griffin had to take her to ballet, you know, because she's a girl and After ballet, Millie was like, I need the mall. I left them off the coffee shop What are we gonna do? So Griffin called me and asked me to call the coffee shop and see if they found it and they were on their way to the coffee shop So I call them and I say, hey, did you guys find this purple stuff animal? And they go, yeah, the thing was one eye. Yeah, we got that and I said, okay, my wife is gonna come pick it up in five minutes

Can you just set it aside somewhere in that five minutes? They lost it again. Oh? Yeah, and then it took him 45 minutes to find it, and with my kid freaking out, and my wife screaming at him, you know, how can you lose a stuffed animal in five minutes, and then they finally found it, and it was like soaked in water. I don't know where it was. Well then, give me the, give me the, mom, I gave you back. Well, I thought she didn't know it. I told you we had it.

No, give it back to me. You said it would be nice to have a back if I didn't know what that meant. Oh. Yeah, yeah, well, no totally. I gave you my kids mom. I thought it was weird that you were giving it to me. No, I thought she had lost it. No, no, she got it back to me. You said it would be nice to have a back if I didn't know what that meant. Oh. Oh. Yeah. Yeah, well, no, totally. Like, I'm not going to my kids mall. I thought it was weird that you were giving it to me. No, I thought she had lost it. No, she got it back.

That's a good transaction there. They got my mall back. This is your also the DCM explosion man. Yeah. What do you think of that explosion man? I was not a fan of that. Not my kind of game. It's too precise for me, you know.

And I'm not a very precise kind of guy. Oh, yeah. People jump into certain way. Yeah. I'm not like you're also not a very stealthy kind of guy so you're trying to play split-up addiction yesterday. Dude fuck that fucking guys. I rocked it. So Jeff and I are playing co-op and split-up addiction right now and it's like it's like I'm trying to be sneaky and patient and

quiet and Jeff is just a bull in a china shop run around trying to like shoot as many people in the head. Make as much noise as possible and I'm sitting there. Jack doesn't like that I shoot out lights to make it make it You shoot out lights that don't matter and all it does is piss off the guys who are like waiting for every light What sucks is I really want to play Splinter Cell Conviction, but I really want a good co-op partner and I know Jeff would not be one Call a multiplayer co-op multiplayer because we play that first level on the hardest difficulty and I was awesome

What once we get through the game I'll play with the guys. All right. That'll be good Comic jumper is the next game that twisted pixels making. Yeah, I don't know when it comes out But it's cool because they're I like Xbox live arcade. I like it a lot I do too. In fact the game room thing is not resonating with me. I like Xbox live arcade a lot better and You see they just have their Xbox live arcade awards what probably one of the coolest uses I've seen of the Xbox Live dashboards dashboard so far by Microsoft. No, I didn't see that Yeah, they had awards where you could vote on the categories for Xbox live and Basically the the end story is that trials HD and shadow shadow complex destroyed everything else And those are two makes sense really great

Yeah, yeah, oh in battlefield 1943 destroyed everything in multiplayer. You know, I'm really excited about shadow complex was so successful that we're starting to see a ton of clones of it already, which is super cool. I didn't know what was. I wouldn't say it's super cool. I've seen the rush. You're talking about Russian attack. Yeah, like Russian attack and the new Lord of Croph game. I think both look like shadow complex clones. That Russian attack one is a straight Like rip off. It looks identical. It looks like Shadow Complex to me. That's cool. I don't know if you've seen the trailer for it yet or not.

I have it. It looks just, imagine the Shadow Complex trailer. That's the Russian attack trailer. With Russians. Shadow Complex is a great game. Great game. Shadow Complex is better than a lot of the retail games I play this year. That's not a lot of them, but it was good.

That was the last arcade game. I had 200 of 200. Did. I'm trying to think. Might be the last one that I did as well. It's definitely the last one I did. Actually I did that DRM thing you told me about Bernie and I downloaded all the stuff to my Xbox the house. Get out of here.

That was just like it. Wow. I would think you're showing me Shadow Complex. That's what I told you. It's like looking at Shadow Complex. Wow, that's crazy. Shrapnel in the military complex. Yeah, that's that's.

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Yeah, so I started playing it again and actually there are someone did guides online like video guides online of how to beat levels Three through 12 and get golds on all of them because you get an achievement for getting golds on every level But I can't get past level two on my own and get a goal to make at the level three before I start doing his guys. So. But I mean, it's that kind of game where you have a little parts of your station that you build up like you get the machine gun turret versus the laser turret and that kills some enemies better. I see that attack you might not be at the you might not be at the well. There's two different. There's like adventure and then there's war and the war one is one of me have weapons. It's kind of funny though like when Xbox Live arcade came out I thought it was like it was a way

To give you bite-sized like kind of okay gaming experiences between retail games, right? Like I'm sick of playing Grand Theft Auto What am I gonna play while I'm waiting for splinter saw to come on? I guess I'll play fucking pack mancy or whatever But now you could just have Xbox Live arcade and just play arcade games and have an awesome gaming experience. And still not build a play-amul. There's so many good games out.

Ben kind of a drought lately, but yes. Yeah, it seems like in the last- Well, final- Final-Fight came out today. Final-Fight. Yeah, Final-Fight Fury. Final-Fight Fury. Yeah, huge fan of that.

And then after Burner comes out next week. Perfect. That'd be cool. Perfect, dark school. It's definitely been in the initial days when it was- There was a couple of original the initial days when it was. There was a couple of original games and then it was an endless stream of Williams ports. Yeah. Yeah. I was actually just looking here. The first achievement I ever got on Xbox 360 was in Joust. Oh, was it? Yeah. Yeah. Did you guys not get achievements at the zero hour event?

No, I didn't have my memory card with it. I have. I might. It's recorded that I played Quake 4. I could see it here at zero hour, but I didn't actually get memory card with it. I have, I'm I can't. It's recorded that I played Quake 4. I can see it here at 0 hour by then actually getting the achievements there. Interesting. Yeah, perfect. Actually, by the example, that game just came out what three weeks ago. And that's a 40 to 60 hour game.

Yeah. The experience you get for like 15 bucks. Yeah, you will even like Doom when Doom came out. They released the port on Xbox Overcade. That's a 20 hour game probably. Yeah. Yeah, that's got. I should go back in 200 doom just to have 200 and doom. Well, okay, the second thing about doom is it requires you to beat all the different like there's, you know, there's

chapter one, chapter two, chapter three. You have to beat those on nightmare or maybe hardcore like this step down for nightmare. And if you play co-op, you don't get it. You have to do all single player. Oh. And it's, you can do four player co-opop, you don't get it. You have to do all single player. Oh, and it's it's you can do four player co-op, but you don't get any achievements. We do co-op. I don't know why. You're gonna be new co-op and doom. Yep. How is it? You're seeing? Yeah, I remember playing doom too back on on a was a big toe BBS here in Austin, a dial up BBS.

I don't know if you could play with that many. I thought back then it was only two player co-op. You knew for. Wow. I don't remember. I stand corrected. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Then it was only two player co-op. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, sold on PC when it came out as opposed to how many copies they've sold since then on different platforms like Xbox Live and DS and cell phones and I mean like every other I mean you can get on pretty much any other gaming platform at this point I wonder what the disparity between those two numbers is interesting I guess it'd be impossible to find out I don't know they had a cool model doom was one of those games that came out shareware where you played the first two levels and then

unlocked it yeah and they you know that was apogee software you played the first two levels and then unlocked it. And they, you know, that was the Apigee software. I played the whole first chapter and then they unlocked the last two chapters. Well, it's essentially what he just said. We said the first two levels. They're like nine levels and each chapter. Come on. You're a dickhead. I am.

What I'm saying is a share where model. But you're right, Jack. You're absolutely right. Thank you. For Shane Burnie. How are we ever going to get legitimacy and our podcast it's your egregious errors but i think about i can think back to the doom awards

back in that i think for so we should talk uh... but i'm assuming you're getting close to the end we should talk about the the corner of ryan going to be yes and you care about that i don't know what we talk about that with that it's wrong with you no what is huge what is huge about you? No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait not also an anchor. He didn't even jump. He was an anchor as a news anchor, but anchor as in he was a large part of that network broadcast. And the, the interesting thing that I think this whole process is that George Lopez

had that time slot and has now been bumped back in our, you know, it's funny. We were making that joke the other day that Conan screwed over George Lopez, much like Leno, screwed over at Conan. And I read an article that said that TBS approached George Lopez and said, Hey, how do you feel about this? And he said, I'd rather have Conan's lead in an hour later than not have it. So please, please bring him on. Apparently, yeah, apparently, everything I read the same article. He said that he didn't want to do it. He fell in comfortable bumping George Lopez. And I guess George Lopez had to call him and, you know, beg him to do it. And George Lopez has been very open since the announcement,

Tuesday, and this is the greatest thing ever. Bring it on with Capcom in coming. He's awesome, which is the right thing to say. Absolutely. But is it a big deal? No. I think it is. It's it why.

Well, we'll see when the first like, you know, series of ratings come out. Oprah's already done it. Or she's in the process of doing it. Yeah, I think that's going to ultimately, that'll be a bigger deal. I think so too. Yeah, it's Oprah's thing. I want to do more people watch Oprah than watch late night TV. Oh, I think that's gonna ultimately, that'll be a bigger deal. I think so too.

Yeah, it's Oprah's thing. I want to do more people watch Oprah than watch late night TV. Oh, I would think so. I would think so. Yeah. Plus she has, I mean, she has like, all that other stuff, she makes movies,

she has that book club that essentially drives the publishing history. She is very busy, Lloyd. She's unserious. She's got tons of stuff. Didn't you say Jeff that since like this whole controversy with late night talk shows have died down that Lenna Letterman are both getting beaten by nightline now. Yeah, let Leno's back on top. He's beating Letterman

Pretty soundly, but that nightline is destroying both of them Which is yeah, nobody wants to talk about it, but yeah, yeah, so I mean it just goes to show nobody People talk about it, but it's really not that big a deal Yeah, it's really not that big. I don't think that many people are watching. Which is the conclusion we came to last time. Which made Bernie go on hiatus for a few weeks. Did they reveal how much he's gonna make at TBS? No they haven't talked about it.

But he owns the show. That was like a big deal. It was like he has full ownership over his show. So he can do it every once and keep it. Yeah I don't know. It'd be interesting. Well within the limits of the FCC. knew it every once and keep it. Yeah, I don't know. It'd be interesting. Well, within the limits of the FCC.

I read some rumors that were unsubstantiated. I'm hesitant to even talk about it. But I read some very unsubstantiated rumors because I don't want to present it as a fact. Please, could I? That I guess Microsoft was in talks with Conan about possibly my dream. Yeah, his show on Xbox Live.

Oh, I read that too. I think somebody posted that on Twitter as a suggestion, but I mean, I mean, I mean, they could have been floated. Why not? You know, how many boxes are there out there? How many Xbox Live accounts? 20 million or so. 20 million Xbox Live accounts right now.

Yeah. How's it interesting? It's a hell of a lot bigger audience than he has on television. Yeah. He was doing like a 2.5 on TV, right? He's also doing four episodes a week. Like he does new Friday episodes. Sounds like John Stewart.

If he was gonna sign a deal like that, it would be interesting if he ended up as a direct original show for Hulu or for Netflix. That'd be interesting. Yeah. That I think would be the most forward looking thing. Or if he was on Xbox, he could have been a great lead in for the guild

But you guys laugh about it would have a great deal lead in for the guild Who's like for season four? That's true But is that is that is that like that matters to you? Like are you gonna like rush out? It's interesting to be us now. I'm excited for your show to come back on huh? When you're excited about the destination You don't seem I'm interested I I'm interested. I'm interested by the destination I'm curious how it's gonna work, but we'll see what's your favorite TBS show now? I Don't know. What was last time you watched?

Probably like family guy like something whatever was on hey Jack. Hey, what what channels TVS? TVS is 65 I think that's not right I don't know. 430. So that's OK. I mean, TVS, where is? Does a TVS just exist to show it in Lano Braves baseball games?

Yes, it really does. Well, it's, you know, it's really, it's very funny. It really doesn't matter because, I mean, if you look at like a show like Mad Men, that's very well received. Let's say an E, right? No, it's AMC, all right? Yeah, it's AMC. AMC shows that.

And then, you know, where's Weeds? That was Showtime. I mean, even HBO. It leads us up, Shota. Came out of nowhere. HBO's legitimate network now. So maybe this is a move that TBS could get stuff done, you know. It's possible.

It could be the next Fox, 10 hours of Time File to Reruns. And then. Going to the right. And that's not a family. Yeah. Here's a really interesting question. We'll talk about lead-ins. hours of time to reruns and then I'm going to write. I'm going to write. I'm going to write. I'm going to write. I'm going to write. I'm going to write.

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I'm going to write. I'm going to write. I'm going over equate with TBS. It was like I was a kid. And that's where they always showed Andy Griffith, the monsters, and sometimes the three students. Gilligan's Island. Never forgot when they showed. And then they would show three students from six to seven a.m. every morning. I would get up early so that I could watch

three students before I went to school. Who was it here that said that they hope that Conan was gonna not go back to late night, but he was going to do something like what Tina faded, where makes his show that's a vehicle for him. If somebody said it here, and I thought that would have been great, you know, I don't tell, doesn't mean to have like a 30 rock -esque show, but done by Conan O'Brien. Yeah, that'd be really cool. He could do like a Larry Sanders type thing, right? Well, I wasn't saying Mr. Cerville. This is like that, yeah, but they could do something you know where

Andy Richter said a bunch of TV shows too. He's a funny dude. He is a funny guy. For the record Jack was right TBS is channel 65. Wow look at you look at that. What's the lead in? Oh I don't know what time they're gonna play Errider anything. Yeah when does it start? No Vember. No Vember. No Vember. Well he's completely obliged not to get back on TV that makes sense that makes I think he can be interviewed though He just can't talk about NBC stuff. I think Lopez actually interviewed him for something Like like you know, welcome into the network or something like that It'll be interesting it'll be interesting to support you though, Bernie TBS is also channel 501. Oh is it yeah there you go on your

FM die so he's on two channels. He's on cable and AM. All right well we should probably wrap this up. Well we haven't talked about something else big. What's up? We don't talk about the years of War 3 trailer. Oh yeah. Did you guys take a look at that? Yeah. Yeah. What they call it? the ashes to ashes trailer? Yes. I didn't realize that was Dom at first. What the beard? The Do of the beard. I was like, who's this old guy? I, it's really interesting to me. I'm maybe because I never played Gears of War 2. I'm not quite, I know Marcus Phoenix, like the main guy. I don't know the other guy. Yeah. Dom had a much bigger role in the saying. Oh, JD, it's Marcus and Dom are the like the big pair and then it's it's coal and who's the other guy? It's a coal train. It starts with a B, doesn't it? I don't know. Fire, bear, something like that? Something. Yeah, but then it's like those other two guys, so. That beard's a big deal. I keep reading about this damn beard. Like people are just fascinating

by the fucking beard. Well, the one thing that fascinated me was the fact that trailer had five people there in that pit at the end Which makes me think maybe it's gonna be five player co-op that doesn't make any sense Why does that make sense because Jack said it oh? I get it. So we're going there now. Yeah I see you know I there was a female There was a character in there so I'm hoping that means they're gonna like girls play co-op now. I said we're drawing weird conclusions from the trailer. I love the trailer school though. Yeah, you did. Yeah, it was cool.

I read a criticism where somebody said they've already done the slow music thing in their last two trailers. It's like, it's a lot of diminishing returns. Everyone's doing that style now. But Dante's inferno did that and there was, there's not a big one that did that recently. But you can also say it's thematic for the franchise that's what they do yeah that's what they're known for that's what their trailers are that's how they do it it's not overdone how do you overdo your own things the thing you've started you think I you know we see those characters too and people are all like doms got to be here like you know I think doms beard has a blog somewhere now. I've got a million subscribers on YouTube.

Get a Twitter account. If we just, we're hoping to pass them soon on YouTube subscribers. But it makes me wonder too if a franchise like Mass Effect, do you think it was a mistake to make the main character so customizable, to where you don't recognize? Like when I see the cover of Mass Effect 2, I don't identify with that you know what funny is when Jeff was playing the DLC for achievement 100 videos the other week I walked in and saw him playing I said that's really weird to see You know you playing to see this shepherd walking around in this universe because I have no idea who this is But this is the fucking default shepherd. Yeah, yeah, you said you felt like I was playing a different game

Yeah, it's so weird to look at the like shade head shepherd Yeah, and like you see people's videos, and we had to want to look like John Locke. You know what I was like? This is so strange. The female shepherds don't bother me that much either, but it's specifically like the weird, alternate male shepherds that are just weird to me.

Yeah, it's an interesting point. And I'm gonna say, I think it is a mistake. You think it is? Or does it make it more personal to you? That franchise? I don't know. To the players. And it will reward you for, you know, being a bigger part of it.

Because even the side characters change from episode to episode. There's very few characters in Mass Effect 2 that were in Mass Effect 1. Yeah. I think Garrus and Tally were the only ones that returned. Yeah, but Le auras in the game Which is not part of your squad as always Ashley and so is Rex But there's also the indication that you know, you're not gonna see them again Like I can't imagine me want a double shoe of every scene either either Ashley or Kate and Alenko exactly

I think how you played they're not gonna keep that going. Yeah, maybe with Ashley and Kaden maybe with that But like Rex when you guys played Mass Effect 2 was Rex the leader of the Krogans or One of my playthroughs I killed him and then the other playthrough he lived in Mass Effect 1 and I in one of them He never appeared in the other one he was right. What about you when you played? He was not in the one I played. Yeah, I didn't play the first one Because he then means he had died I guess so so. So in mind, if they already have an alternate version

where Rex is dead, in Mass Effect 3, they're not going to revisit the Rex character. They're like, fuck this. Let him go. We don't re-shoot two of those scenes. Yeah, they, uh, yeah. And one of them, I got in a lot of trouble. Like when I went to the Krogan planet for, uh,

for having killed Rex and Mass Effect 1. No, did you? Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing too is that if you watch the cutscenes, you can watch people recording your cutscenes on YouTube every one of those damn scenes Apparently that last battle at the end that can go about 8,000 different ways. Yeah, I like there's so many endings to the end of that game I don't want to give anything away. I don't think I mean this point six months

But I mean you can have a you can have an ending to that game spoiler Where everybody else but you dies and you're still win the game But there's nobody left in your crew in any way. I'm out How are you mentioning? The massive three in the massive three like you talked about all the different decisions and who exists and who doesn't exist Because you built such a large Squad this time around you right. It's way more people to keep track of and variables and where the loyalty come through Like they must have a tree at this point. That's just massive

Yeah, I think they said I forget if they carried 300 or 700 pot hooks over from aspect one and the massive to This next one is gonna be ridiculous. It's interesting now. Does it have any notes when it comes out? Mass Effect 3? Yeah, nope They've even announced it yet Nope Hmm. That's like like a back in the day when they made like you know street fighter two or street fighter three or something like that I was just like okay okay, that guy won. And I was like, that's it. All right.

No matter what, I was like, okay, Luke King won the last Mortal Kombat. That's what we're doing in a Mortal Kombat III. So, I'm just, you know, even if Johnny Cage won, no, no, Luke King won. They did? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that. There was actually a plot line that kind of followed through all the Mortal Kombat.

Hey, plot? Yeah. But yeah, because it was like Luke King one, the first one, I think. And then I wanna say like, Kung Lao won the second one. God, this is not good. I don't even know who Kung Lao is.

He's the guy who had the hat with the, like it was, had the, the brim that was a blade. He was awesome. He's fatality, he would cut you in half, he'd like open up like a, like a flower. So is Mortal Kombat based on big trouble in little China? I think Raiden is.

Well, there's a lot of references. Like you're one of the fatalities, one of the guys in flates, and then blows up. Oh, yeah, good point. I don't know. It's a good question. It seems like it. Fire by.

We'll have to investigate. But if you're going to make fun of Japanese fighting games and bad plot, you cannot get past Dead or Alive. That makes no sense. That's like a Japanese guy watched an American soap opera once. Like he had one episode and he watched it 10,000 times. And then he made a video game. And then they made an offshoot of that video game, which is even weirder.

It's like, and even further layer removed with the Dead or Alive paradigm stuff. And then they made, oh, okay. Yeah, one of the characters is super rich in Ones and Island, and all the girls go there and they're bikinis. Well, that's because he won the live. For the big volleyball tournament. You know, the going back to what Jackson though, that's why he had that island, he bought it with the winnings from winning that are alive. I wonder why are they still alive?

I don't know. They're either dead or alive. He's alive. He's alive, you know. You talk about Zach though, right? Yeah. And then they made a movie with their friends. Yeah, I in a fighting tournament. Dead or alive. It alive, you know you talk about Zach though, right? Yeah, yeah, then they made a movie with their I'm a fighting tournament dead or alive

I don't think that if you don't if you're not alive, you're dead. Okay, let me sense what you what's the Japanese name of that game? Big boobs 2000 Girl fight plus plus But you were you were commenting the other day about But you were you were commenting the other day about Them trying to go through and make dead rising Less Japanese that they were Capcom was worried that the game was two Japanese So they hired a Canadian developer to make it more Western

Translation dead rising to is going to suck It's like no this quirky stuff that people seem to like No, they really hated it. Let's do it. Yeah. Let's replace it with new stuff. I can't imagine being a boarder of Disney. You know what this game needs? It needs to be more Canadian. We don't want our main character taking pictures of zombie panties anymore. Luring zombie photos.

How about... How about instead of a camera, he's got to cup a Tim Orton's coffee. I can't imagine all the cutscenes he'd be like wow you guys look really tired. Are you feeling sick? Have some poutine. We all eat super nice Canadian people's office. Hey how are you? This is all waiting your life for healthcare. Yeah, that's the healthcare system. It made us all be apocalypse.

That's a serapaylonal say. Yeah. Alright, well let's get out of here. Alright, I got political at the end. Sorry about that. Oh, I got to cut it. Alright, well thanks for listening. Tata.

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