Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #60

Episode Date: May 5, 2010

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Twisted metal, streaming now now only on peacock Hey everyone, it's a podcast Hey, it's a podcast hello everyone. This is Bernie Burns. Hey, I am different. Gustav Rola. Joe Heyman and Jeff Hey, I am Jeff Ransi. Gustavola. Joel Hammond. And Jeff. R.T. Parkestings. What was the theme song? It's a final time. Oh. Ba-da-ba-ba-ba.

Oh, I wanted to throw my panties. I did throw my panties. Nice. Hey, everyone. I think the real joke there is that guy had to listen to like eight different clips of me singing over and over again with the other tune that I think so we should auto tune this whole podcast. Yeah. You sound much better auto tune Jeff.

Thanks dude. And now what it's for. Man, I'm surprised now that hearing that that it took that long for somebody to auto tune us. I probably didn't take very long that it was like from eight months ago. I'm okay. That entry was submitted. This person was really I'm okay. That entry was submitted. This person was really deceptive. I think they tried to get to the head of the line.

They wrote that the email was from, if you look at it in your, in my mail program, it says it's from Olivia Munn. Then you open it and it's from Keenan. I can't pronounce that last name. Little, little trickery. Well, no matter what you put in the email, it's going to be disappointing after that.

Well, maybe he was logged into Olivia Munn's computer when he's Entirely possible He's like, okay, maybe go to work. I'm gonna send this wicked ass auto tune software It was pretty awesome. I saw Olivia Munn in something recently Transformers I Date not a terminator. We shouldn't date night. She's the host is in date night. Oh, yeah, okay the trailer right I saw her in Iron Man to you and I didn't realize I was saying it but I saw her in Iron Man 2

But it's not at all a big deal and you should totally cut out that I said She's just like Jack your last week's part. That's why I had to cut him so insignificant I literally didn't remember that's where I saw is she also in date night She isn't date night. How is that movie? I haven't seen it Okay, I'm gonna come totally clean here. I was sending an email from her computer Your web of lies is unraveling buddy. It is and I was auto tuning some wicked songs Did you see that dude who accessed their palancy email? It was found guilty? Good on two charges

Prisoned stuff. It's he I don't think he's been sentenced yet, but he was found guilty of Computer fraud which is a misdemeanor subject to a prison term of up to one year and obstruction of justice Which carries a maximum of 20 year sentence. I wonder what the obstruction of justice was who knows? He was found not guilty of wire fraud and the jury deadlocked on identity theft Deadlock so deadlock means you're off the hook. I guess Like I probably try to retry him. I guess he's not found not guilty. I can retry. I guess yeah Until he's stature limitations runs out Obviously, we're all you know legal experts here. Yeah, of course. Absolutely. So he could do jail time.

Yes. He fucking should do jail time. I'm the Sarah Palin fan, but come on. Between those two charges, you could do a maximum of 21 years, but I doubt it'll be that bad. No, wow, wow. I just learned from my new iPhone addiction, which is a program by the day of Cranque QR-A-N-K.

I've been trying to get Gus, but go ahead, make your comment. Go ahead, fuck you. I decided that I'm just going, circumvent this whole problem. I'm just not gonna install it. In two weeks, you're gonna delete it and call us all stupid for using it. It's true. Or I'll be like, or you'll go, I can't believe it fucking ruined crank on me. It was great and then make that one update, and now it's worthless. What's it now? I gotta delete it. Is this the... When have I ever said that? Yes, it's a trivia game. When have I ever said that? Then they made an update and killed it.

Doodle Zone. Oh yeah, no. Just when have I ever said that yes the trivia game when have I ever said that they man update and killed it doodle zone. Oh, yeah Okay, that's true You're you're right in blinders on I was afraid I couldn't back you up on that. I was like oh shit. I don't remember that ever happened I'm gonna pull it out yourself. I have blinders on behind me I have vlanners on behind me Guys I plus also Q rank is something that Jack likes so I automatically it's got like

Yeah, that's not good. You're given that you're given stuff to Gus because you don't you'd like the app and he's not using it What's the story? First of all, I just want to say in my defense. I only don't remember the bad stuff about my So I'm very Excellent quality. Yeah, it is Well crank is cool because it's a trivia game Which I believe is made by somebody here in Austin Texas developer in Austin. Oh really? I'll download it then they go brother. I didn't realize there's local. Yeah, but I don't care what we see I'm not I'm not downloading goa lot because that's four square thing that was everyone emits That was a massive died is go all a local yes no shit

Yeah, Jolly Bush was trying to get me to download them make it up for us those those tabbed out tabbed out local Yeah, I mean that yeah, I saw dude with the tabbed out shirt at the Mac store put the domain the other day Really, yeah, awesome. We found a conversation that's less interesting than local eaters Local what app developers, but a crank is a game that you can only play once a day and it's a trivia game. It's almost like you remember you don't know Jack. Oh, yeah, I love that. It's a lot like that, but you have all your friends and you all compete with the same 15 trivia questions, essentially, and then it ranks you once a day. And then you say, I want to play against this. No, you've already played today. Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. After like a month, the person that has a high score, do they get money? You can bet your friends if you want to. I think you should

get money. How come you a free path of page you money? That's right. How come you never asked me to get it? I think I did. You don't respond to my aims. I did every chance I get. I don't respond to your texts like two in the morning. That's probably when I did. I probably texted you two in the morning. Bernie's probably when I did I probably texted you to the morning Bernie aimed me into my phone while I was asleep like at two in the morning You know that they let me know the starcraft tube beta was out for the Mac. Yeah, it's always like you're welcome I'm happy I'd read about it like seven hours before and already downloaded it I woke up and I looked at it as like as the site down fucking Bernie. Yeah, you get like the 230

You get the like the 230 texts that are like a complete reach Look at it like this When the hard craft beta goes down you'll be the first to It's true very true. So you also get like you also though get text from me like look up this girl on Twitter She's hot. Oh, yeah, no, I did get that one. You're swamp is what is this? Whoa, she is hot I'm sure I have Craig in here somewhere. I probably told your wife which is to me the same thing is telling me It's like it's telling the same avatar on the internet

They have the same avatar so you don't want it goes to both Yeah, yeah, you did find the fixer. Okay good. What in our defense it was like that for I'm talking a different way of it Look at you look at you dumbass. Oh shit That's me. So even I don't know what to do man even if you fix it your wife still has your picture I fixed up and then mobile me goes work on walking on it's all back the game So if anyone wants to like deceive the routine russian staff all you do is get like an I am address and then just like put your Put Bernie's picture in there's got to be the same thing. I'll be that be it Which wouldn't be hard to do. User name will matter.

Yeah. It's true. I'll get fooled by the little picture all the time. I'm going to make a name account called the real Barack Obama and put a picture there. I bet that exists already. And then I'll start aiming some of your old friends, Bernie. Do you know it was a big deal, Facebook hit 175 million users? I was like a year ago or something?

I bet they have 500 million active users now. Yeah, what the fuck? I mean, there's now there I mean, it's kind of a standard right? Yeah You get like your driver's license in your Facebook ID all the time. I mean that's you call like the tipping point You know, that's just crazy dog pile that went to the car dealership this morning like to get something service Then I was like sitting there waiting and they had free Wi-Fi and everyone that had a laptop was on Facebook Like that's no joke like 50% of the people in that waiting room had laptops and were like updating Facebook. And that's the biggest asset they have is that you know that everybody's on it. Yeah.

So we saw a really interesting infographic the other day which was ownership worldwide of servers based on company. And it was a pretty impressive graphic. Who was it that showed to me? Guess was it not you that you're doing? No, no, no, that sounds interesting. So I'd like to see it. Who's the, who would you guess would be the big one on there? This is ownership of servers for what now?

Just across the internet? Globally. Globally, who has the most co-located servers around the world? It has to be good. I would imagine Google. Google owns more than 2% worldwide of all computer servers. And they have this rank. What do you think about it?

With all the companies out there? Who's the second highest? I'm just going to turn this around so I can show you guys the graph. And they're at 2%? And are the biggest is that what you're saying? I wonder what we're writing. Here's Intel. They have an estimated hundred thousand servers rack space has almost 57,000 one in one internet has 70,000 and then we get down to Google by share

So it's a huge part of the infographic they have a few more than the other people they have over one million So they have ten times the closest person to them estimated one million plus. Good Lord. I went on I went on heard the second hand story that somebody told about an article they read. So that's has to be accurate. This is totally true. Where there's people who work for Google who just try to find geographic locations to

build co-location facilities because they're the only people that have to be there. And they try to find locations that are right next to a massive river just so they can pull hydro power out of the river. Clearly, it's for these clean co-location servers. I'm completely pulling this out of my ass, by the way, the story. Now, I'm taking this fact, the infographic though is right here. And I don't think anybody would make a graphic that wasn't. I mean, honestly, it's fascinating to me that the biggest person

that space only owns 2% of that space. That's interesting to me. Well you gotta think about the number of people that have servers. Like we have servers, we have a couple, right? And there's a lot of businesses like us, or just companies that have IT, that have servers. How many servers do we have, Gus? Seven?

If I have to estimate the couple on my head, I'd say 12. According to this infographic do we have got seven five test me at the top of my head I'd say 12 according to this infographic we have 13 We're like a tenth of a pixel or something on there probably I don't know what we do I'm not I'm not a big fan of the rise of infographics and flow charts on the internet I feel like those two are hand in hand and like now everyone makes Infographics and flow charts Go ahead. You can blame for that USA today Flow charts people who make flow charts they don't understand how how flow charts work

Can you make flow charts? Many have the flow charts on the internet are right Infographics it's it's taking a 10,000 foot look down at something and generalizing it all I Feel like you never get hard data or any, you never get hard data at number one. And number two, there's almost never any references backing up the data. It's like, oh, here's this information.

I'm not gonna tell you how I came to these conclusions. But if it's a graphic, then it has to. Yeah, but if it's a graphic, then you look at it and it's easy to digest. You know what they are to me? They are the new version of the top 10 list on the internet. What God. Everything was top 10s for a while or lists and I can't stand lists anymore

They're one of the worst things and those are just and those are don't get me started on those Those are obviously just advocated to you. Please page views. It's like oh we could put all 10 on one page But no, we're gonna put a top 10 list that spans four pages god you know who's the worst about that cracked yeah, cracked Cracked is the fucking worst here are the top 10 funniest movies from 1982. One per page. Is that what they do? I thought they do top six lists and they just do two pages always. That's their standard format. No, no, they do not. I think they're normally top 10 in the three pages. I've been noticing a trend and you guys probably don't care about any of this at all, but like there's a website called the Motley Fool, which is like a stock website and they're

whole stick is to give you a ridiculous headline. And then like the article has nothing to do with the headline. It's just simply to get to click through. Is that the same thing as fool.com? Like that's the same site? Uh, no. Yeah, I think it is. Yeah.

No, you and I were just talking about it the whole day. And I was making fun of me. I told Jeff what is this? 1998. Jesus Christ. They are the worst site. I mean, their information is just utterly Wrong well there you go, Jack you were you're trying to figure out a financial site. You thought about going back to the full

I guess I'm not gonna go there. Not good. Not good. What's the best site to learn about financial shit? Yahoo, that's what I said I'm not indicated. Yahoo has just an absolute like The powerhouse statistics in there. It's all in one place. It's great Man, Gus you are you get your finger on the pulse. He does I can see Joel's computer for more. I sit I gotta say that Young who gets a lot of flack for just completely fucking up and losing the entire global digital Industry to Google but they've done a couple things right that are still right like they they have that other stock program is still the best thing that I've seen out there.

That's awesome. And I gotta say that Yahoo answers thing that they came up with. That's actually a pretty interesting tool and people use it. It's fucking entertaining. It is entertaining. Which is what the internet should be that. It should be entertaining and informative, you know. And at least they give the ability to rank up past the long answers that people give to one another. They're total bullshit

But they've done a couple things right, you know, they just missed on they just missed on the big big big thing Yahoo answers is like trolling for Wikipedia responses It's like you put a question out there and then people just throw shit back at you and you have no idea of knowing it Whether it's true or not if any in the end you do a pregnancy or sex, it's usually a ridiculous answer that comes back. But it's funny because I will get in Google Alerts for us. People asking questions about how we either produce red versus blue or what we're doing here. And they go to Yahoo Answers test that they don't, we have a whole website where they just

come and ask that and people can tell them what's going on, but don't they go to Yahoo to Yahoo answers and say in episode three of revelation. How did they get the guys to move like that? So Going back to flowcharts It's a terrible idea for us to release a poster that has like a flow chart of characters and storyline A flow chart I don't know because I love flow charts. I don't know if you can make that maybe like a venn diagram or something like that Well, we like the AI and the different you know on the things and structure and you're scared now things in the structure Yeah, I don't like that. No, I don't know I get the work in I just sounds like some user project

By podcast 61 the LFT author it's gonna have it all fucking mapped out for you This is a job like that's a job for something a job for the Mona and if they can't if they can't figure out just a box with a Question mark the job for what I don't and or borrows Get to the bottom of it. Did you see the other day? I sent you this article I don't think you believe me Bernie that the last remaining tech most Super Bowl player finally retired How is that possible? What? How is that possible? Tecmo Super Bowl was 91. No, Tecmo Super Bowl, 89. 91.

Yeah. 91. What does that mean? Wow, good memory, dude. So Tecmo Super Bowl was 91. That means here's the problem. I don't know how to get from 91 to 2010. That's 19 years.

19 years. What the fuck? He was it. It was Jeff Fiegel, a punter for the New York Giants. He started in 88. His first he was with the Patriots in 88 so he played for 22 years. I remember, Fiegel's was on the Eagles. Yes, that's how I remember it. I guess that I could see that because it didn't more in Anderson play for like 23 years or 24. He was when he retired, you know, just last week Fiegel's was 44. Wow dude, he retired early. That's great. I wonder how much money that guy has. Like if you're 40 from

Sure, the payouts for the tech and super bowl residuals there also the roof. That was a guy will go, right? Do you think that guy like for the red he's done kicking now in his life? He's like I'm sure you'll kick his honor to still 40 40 years old I'm never gonna like he sees a can on the side of the road. He's like fuck it. Nope Right, I mean, oh Whitney it's just like his bread and butter you might hate kicking at this point he may be so fucking sick of making that one leg motion over and over and over again for so many years you might hate kicking twenty two years but he might have kicking nightmare he can hire someone to kick for

yeah they follow around to kick the shit out of that i don't know how he's just completely happy to still be alive to be 44 years old. No NFL football. No kid. I guess I don't really fully feel that weight until you get near that age. The article says at the beginning of the 2009 season, there were three tech most Super Bowl players still in the NFL. It was John Carney with the Saints and junior sayout with the Patriots. That's the Junior Sayout with the fucking over too. And, wow. But those two retired, I guess at the end of the year, and Fiekel's just decided to retire. Junior Sayout was still playing.

Yeah. Wow, that's impressive. I mean, he's a linebacker. That's what he had impressive. Don't we eat at his restaurant in San Diego? We did. Sayout. Remember that, there was that waitress.

What waitress? What? It's just a cool, we had a good service. Remember that there was that waitress It's just a cool. They're just on it. We had a good service There was a way just with a crazy hot ass. That's what I remember No, I just remembered Like when I thought I, anyway, well, you flummoxed. I don't know. You want to talk about it? You want to take a time out? She's not in the room.

She's probably not listening to the podcast. You don't have to worry. No, I just, I got, I remembered Junior Say I was restaurant when you said the name, and then the first thing I came to mind was that waitress. That's the year we stayed at that hotel, like, fucking seven miles away from the convention center. Yeah, that sucked.

Never again. Well, I mean, that's okay I mean what that big deal is it The hard part the hard part was not just things so far away the hard part was finding parking every day Yeah, it's comic-con driving into and then like waiting in traffic for yeah an hour I couldn't imagine that now. It's so much busier there. Mm-hmm. It's terrible man. Just finding parking I'm gonna make so we had those guys in the suit of armor too. When we'd have to go over to the garage where we parked. Yeah. To get them dressed

up and then walk them back. By the time we walked them back to the convention center, they were already too hot to walk around for more than like five minutes in the halo hour. Yeah, and it wasn't very hot. And the weather was really nice out there. And it's still like the, you know, the armor was that, I don't know, heat absorbent. Yeah, I now have this thing that you used to blow up air mattresses and I just stick a hose up between their armor and their dress and blow it. Yeah, it sounds hot doesn't it. And then I just blow all the heat out for them if I can. So somebody's not going to wait in that room. Yeah, I don't know what between this and the wait or something.

I have the bathroom. We're going to Comic Con again this year. Well, it'll be the same booth and we worry last year. Surprise. That's cool. It's going to be Jeff, Gus, Matt, and Monty. I believe so. I mean, that's our VTOs the week after that. Right. So. Good time then. You're going to Ken West like in a week or two, aren't you, Bernie? Or two weeks? Yep. I am. Fuck, I'm going to E3 in a month, too. That should

be cool. Yeah. I'm excited. I'm excited. I'm excited for the Microsoft Presidents. I haven't been to E3 since like, 04 or 5. I think you and I went together the last time. Yeah. So same here. Was that when we got that car with the GPS that kept driving us in a circle? Yeah. It literally, we got to an intersection and it told us to take a left and a right turn.

That's also the same trip where Bernie booked us at that quality in in Koreatown and the sign was in in English and we couldn't find it. That's right. Did that? Yeah. It was back when you handled travel. That's right around when I took over. Yeah, it tells show you. That's how you get it done. Just do a shitty job. Yeah, you put us in that hotel. Jeff put us in the fucking Serie Avo hotel in Toronto. I put you in the Serie Avo hotel because it was recommended to me. I don't know Nothing back Car

Air conditioner unit was held in the window with duct tape not even duct tape like black electrical tape and lots of it Phoebe oh The beat for you get the sorry Jeff does this thing where every hour he lifts weights now or you It's girls and he does push ups the funny thing is I've seen that alarm go off at ten times I've never seen him actually do it. I have I've always seen the alarm go off and I never see the the follow through Oh, no dude every day. I do it probably eight to ten times a day. That's crazy. Yeah I've seen it you're not here tonight. I've seen it Jack does it do Jack does the push ups for impressive. Yeah, Jackson's push it. You're not here to know. I've seen it. Jack does it too. Jack does the pushups.

Yeah, Jackson's pushups. I do curls. Jack's probably a lot more sweaty. Not painting a good picture for the listeners. So it did. When Jack's not here, he brings down. So you didn't text me this at two in the morning, but Starcraft 2 finally has a release date. Oh, yeah, July 27th.

Right after comics. You guys are playing the beta. Yeah. What do you think? It's good. It's a lot of fun Did it feel like stockraft to you very much so totally so yeah very much so they but they finally had like we said The Mac version finally came out the other day Just a good peer. It's gonna rashed my Mac pro here at the office. Well, it's beta Yeah, you know, let's go on the reach beta How to people are complaining it's like this sub beta, you know, this is they're they're working all this stuff out That's kind of the wonderful this. I mean you're helping figure out if the servers can handle load

That's part of the process. That's why it's free, right? You know, it's interesting to read all that stuff people completely lose perspective for that I I drew a little chart for you That I made it yesterday. Oh, I was going to make it and put online and it was showing how it was a chart of people's expectations for a product versus how much that product costs and then a 10 bucks you have no expectations for the product and it like $10,000 you have more expectations but not nearly as high as your expectations when something is free. So it's like a big dip. So because your expectations with something is absolutely free.

You want to do everything in the fucking world and you'll complain about it and be upset about it. But as soon as you start to pay any amount of money for it, your expectations go way to hell that. Which is true. I mean, if you go to a $10 movie and like, what do you think of the movie? It's fucking terrible. It's like, are you mad about it?

No, it's a terrible movie. You know, no big deal, two hours in my life. But maybe that's why the app store has like that 99 set, like on the iPhone, has that 99 set price point for most things. Right. It's like, oh, sucks. And it was only a buck.

Yeah, 99 cents, no big deal. Not even real, but if it's free, then you're like screaming at the fucking topic alone. It's like everything on the internet is free basically. And as soon as people Move a pixel to the left everyone goes nuts I'm we're still getting in our comments on YouTube People telling us to change the format of YouTube back to the old format

First of all, you're fucking crazy telling us to do it and secondly get over it. I mean, I don't even know what the changes are at this point easy telling us to do it and secondly get over it. I mean, I don't even know what the changes are at this point. Yeah, they may be annoying for a day and then you get used to it and then you find out it was probably a good change in the first place. It's fucking the only. Ideally. Ideally. Joel, you know how you said that you can't believe that globally the leader would only have 2% of the servers in the entire world. Well, here's a good metric of action. It's a market for consolidation. Oh, you think so?

Are you thinking about anything that has 2% is the biggest market share? That's now. What? Well, it's not the same industry. I mean, they could have lots of people. Is it in industry where someone can make money? No. Yes. It is. So that's all that. I don't think you make money from owning servers. That's that's what the metric is. It's like oh, I see I'm according to the market. I can see you could like corner the market on co-location facilities These own I don't think you guys are looking at this right now. I'm just trying to justify what you say I'm not even listening. I'm gonna go into business as owning servers. That's gonna be my business

I don't think yeah, yeah, that's like Rackspace. That's what they do. They own servers and then lease them out. Well, there's lots of different industries that would end up owning servers that end up in the infographic. Intel is not the same as Rackspace. I'm not agreeing with them. I'm not a lot of companies that solely make their money off of like a company like Google, like servicing servers. Okay, Rack, RAC, that's different. That would be a totally different infographic like Intel makes 5% of the servers and sells 5% of the servers in the world. That's a totally different infographic. That's what you're talking about. Not people who own servers. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. It's like saying people who own cars versus people who manufacture cars. That's totally different. Still though it's

still surprising to me. That's 2%. But yeah. Speaking of it's OK. It's totally different things. Like if I said, Americans own 50% of the cars in the world you go, then you got to consolidate that. It's like, what are you being solidating? You're going to say, OK, Japan and America are combined now. Awesome. Now we own 70% of the cars. Has nothing to do with the manufacturer.

It's not a business. Man, I understand that. It's just magic. Speaking of cars, how do you like any new car, Gus? It's good. Yeah. What kind of car? Not this past week and the one before.

About a Prius. 2010 Prius. You want a Prius? Nope. No, I do. Jules of Big fan of the Prius. Jules hates the Prius. I don't hate the Prius.

Yeah, you do. I don't hate the Prius. Hey, Jules, I'm the only one who can buy anything but a Prius. I don't hate the Prius. Prius is awesome. I'm really enjoying it. I do. I hate the free. How are the brakes? Where's that car gets going man? You just can't stop it. It's just phenomenal. Once he gets going it is a Prius. When does it get going like by Wednesday?

It's warm enough right now. I had the sensation when I was driving a Prius that it had like one wheel like directly underneath you and it was like a ball ball I constantly had feeling that the car was just gonna tip over so that you know what? You're like a computer mouse driving around It's like a little tin toys with a wind up TN day. I slowed down below five miles I was just like it's gonna fall over. I totally cut you off. You're kind of saying as you car falling over yet No, no luckily, oh man. I had a recourse call earlier, but no, we're good No, I mean we were just talking about the metrics thing but I want to I want to talk about this car things because it came up suddenly because that's what happened the other day we're in the office and

who came by to see us at the office oh yeah Jason just comes walking in the office because he was doing some Tucker lines he's he's gonna sell his car right and he says he goes you get a new car and Gus says yeah he goes what would, what'd you get? He's got a previous. He goes, how do you like it? And Gus says, it's great. And then Jason goes back to lines and everyone else in the room is like, Gus, you got a new car? And he goes, yeah, I got a new car last week. I was like, would that be the kind of thing Jeff that you would tell the people you were? He probably inferred it from the email where I was like, hey, does anybody want to buy my old car? It's a piece of shit. Well, you're just selling a car. That doesn't

mean anything. That's what he got the same information you guys did. But what is the secretive thing that Gus doesn't tell anybody anything in life? Did you know I had a car? Guys, I don't want to be in the middle of this one. This is a no-in situation for me. But why is that?

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I knew I, I, I, he sent out an email like a couple days ago saying I'm going to sell this car. I did. I knew he bought a Pri days ago saying I'm gonna sell this car. I did I knew he bought a Prius But I don't know that I knew it just because I get a ride home from him every day and suddenly I was in a different car No, you invited us out to drinks the day I read it. I was like oh, I can't I'm gonna go right I we invited him out to drinks at an awesome local bar restaurant called Rio Rita

So run it you site check it out sometimes you get a chance he's six feet and Probably my favorite place in Austin. What are you pointing at? I'm gonna throw a scenario at you. Okay, and then he said I can't, I'm buying a Prius, and I guess that's how I knew you're right, totally right, and I didn't find that out, my wife did, so I find that through Griffin, because of retail Griffin, you tell Jeff, it's pretty much. It's through your point. Scenario, what in the hell are we talking about? Scenario, I'm gonna throw you, okay, let's assume you didn't go to drinks that night, that you going to throw you. Okay, let's assume you didn't go to drink that night. That you were doing something else.

Okay, let's assume you didn't get a ride home from Gus. Okay. On a regular basis. How long do you think it would have been before you found out that he bought a new car? It might have been in this podcast. Do you know what Gus told me when I brought this up to him? No. He said, nobody asked me. Why wouldn't you ask me if I bought a new car So I have a list of questions

That I would like to ask us daily questions weekly Do you have any children? No? Still no are you still married? Yes, okay? That one you can tell easily though to the same woman. Yeah, yeah Have you changed citizenship lately? No, no, no, been consistent with that one. Is there anything else that I should ask you that has changed in your life recently? I changed my bank account. I told you about that one. I've told you five times. I mean, I've told anyone else. I don't know if we- I don't know what I did tell you guys because

the banker was hot. I don't- it's true. We lived in Facebook. I don't know if we've ever talked about this in the podcast. If we have, I don't want to retell ever talked about this in the podcast if we have I don't want to retell a story but the worst one of those I've ever had is Gus and I lived together on and off for four years or so. I don't know how long. Yeah, something like that. Three or four years. Three to four years. Three to five years probably lived together in the same house, small house, right? Something different beds usually but the same house. Very close. One day I walk into my living room and Gus is standing in the living room with a girl and not his current wife but just this is a long time to go and I look at Gus and I look at this girl and I look at Gus and Gus goes oh hey and I go hi I'm

Jeff and she's like oh hey I'm so and so and I go oh do you guys are friends or something I guess goes no no we're dating and I go oh wow, do you guys friends or something? I guess goes, no, no, we're dating. And I go, oh, wow, congratulations. When did that happen? And that motherfucker goes about a year and a half ago. No kidding. We lived together, and I didn't know he was dating a girl for a year and a half. I remember you telling that story.

I remember you telling that story. A year and a fucking half. How did you hide her in the garage when I would walk in the front door? Yeah, probably. It was just so weird. I was like getting punched in the face with confining. What is that? Why don't you want to share information?

I just don't talk about myself normally, I guess. But that's a, I have a new car. I have a girlfriend for a year and a half. I'm in the space shuttle for a year. It's something like you don't know. You mentioned it. I don't know. We stopped at that.'t know we stopped that's what you remember one time There's I don't know what season it is Gus is not on one of the season commentaries to this day

Yeah, he said I can't be there for the season commentary and we said do you want us to move it? He goes I can't be there tomorrow. I will not be here. It's like it was clear There was something major that kept him from coming to commentary to this day We still I've been on every commentary except the season one commentary because I was in Puerto Rico it was clear there was something major that kept them from coming to commentary to this day we saw them. I've been on every commentary except the season one commentary because I was in Puerto Rico. No, it was like four or five. I mean, we must have moved it. This was the season two commentary.

It was in the beauty office. Yeah, it was the season two commentary. We didn't do season two commentary. That's the one you started out of. Yeah, that's the one that got rescheduled. It was a lay, it was a lay. You're right, I think every schedule. I think I stormed out of it. No, no, you're missing you're getting

You got stormed out of the one in Bernie's house because we were we were drunk and obnoxious that I didn't see too That's what that's what I'm this one was in the Yeah, so I was in for hmm you What? The Monkeys oh my god what's wrong with my stuff? I just growl big time. I think I just heard that on the fucking head. Yeah, why did you want to go to that? You're stomach is more talkative than I am.

I don't remember. My stomach is about a Prius. Anyway, congratulations on your car. It's fun to ride in. Thank you. You're going to be buying one too, aren't you? You're looking at a used car. I'm just fucked that.

What? I shouldn't buy a car? You know what you should buy. What should I buy? You know what you should buy. What should I shouldn't buy car. You know what you should buy what should I buy? You know what you should buy what should I don't you know what you should you need to consolidate your cars? You should be a picture of what you want to get all I'm gonna buy that car That's what I was gonna buy that car today. I should buy motorcycle button. No, I've already had one I I was gonna buy that car today, but my wife said she was too busy working on immersion to drive me out to the dealer to buy it So I'll have to buy it in another day. What is that true?

Yeah. Because Brandon said to me, he's probably moving the shoot. And I said, okay, we'll just let everyone know. I go, no, I'm not going to tell Griffin so that she'll make sure she has the stuff done for tomorrow. I think you probably shouldn't do that. You should probably tell her when it's actually due as opposed to. Yeah, because she that she loves deadlines.

If you give her a deadline, she'll meet a deadline. Unfortunately, that's a problem. Yeah. Yeah, because she that she loves deadlines. If you give her deadline, she'll meet a deadline. Unfortunately, that's a problem. Yeah. Yeah. It's that she doesn't get a lot of deadlines. And I think she's probably planning on working all night to get some stuff done. That's what I was afraid of. Yeah. And she'd not be happy if she worked like 25 straight. And then we didn't do the shoot tomorrow. Maybe we cut this part and then Jeff makes a phone call. Now, let's put it in his favorite. No, I want I'd like it to be fun to watch band and Learn. Yeah, I think it's good experience.

You know, Brandon did the PSA yesterday. That was pretty good. He did a great job. Yeah, great job. I thought he did as well. He went on a photoshoot this weekend. I don't know if you knew about that on Sunday. I did for that PSA.

I was going to come to, but I was already committed to grilling steaks. It's sad that we only, I'm so hungry. I'm hungry. I'm going to be right back. It's sad that we could only show one of those photos because they were they were amazing Um, maybe we make like a I think you definitely get the winner We should uh we should find a winner to capitalize on that and merchandise those hell yeah, dude She makes a kind of like a by-glassy a by ten. You can sign them. Yeah, it's some kind of good. Oh, I've Comic Con

I should go up to like mixed a Virgil Blue Fregna Anyway, so I'm not buying a car today, guys. But maybe tomorrow if Griffin has the time to take it. Is Griffin going to buy a truck? Eventually. Yeah. See, I think that she should buy a truck that is exactly the same as what Bernie's truck

is and with the same exact mileage, just the like, because I know Bernie's trying to like hint at selling his truck. I'll buy Bernie's truck today. If you'd sell it to me, I didn't think he wanted to sell it. He's been in the process of like potentially buying a car or selling the car that he has for about four years now, right? Oh, longer probably. Yeah.

Probably five years. She should buy a car just like his and then have a money in front, kick it up and like have the same kind of dance on it. It's true. And we should get a picture of you, oiled up. Hey, are you looking at, I keep looking past you to your screen and I keep seeing the jeweled. Is that, are you gonna talk about that story about the guy who beat the jeweled?

Yeah. That's a fucking bizarre story, right? Yeah, this dude, I guess, played the jewel to, y'all know what I'm sure of you heard about this Bernie, do you want the dude who played the jewel to for three years and beat the game? He got, I guess, the maximum score possible where it couldn't count his scores anymore. I've never played, but I'm assuming you played on PC and you can save your progress or something. I guess. Or did he just leave a game open for three years? I hope it powered and go out. Can you say that? I'm going to make some rattling here.

I hope it comes. He scored two billion, 147 million, 483,647 points. Damn, what's he gonna do with all those points? More importantly, he collected almost five million gems. He's gotta be rich, all right? That makes me sad. Honestly, it makes me sad. That somebody beat that game, that somebody spent that much of their life.

Which one do you think? I don't know. I'm really sad about the jewel going down. That was, that was some of the thousand lives forever. Sad that wasn't you you have you played the jewel Not in 10 years Like since not since like season one of rbb. It says that I guess over those three years he played for almost Well a little over two any two hundred hours

Which is equivalent of almost 92 days straight of a jewel playing you know If you like you play a game and you love the game you play the game for like 12 hours straight or whatever you know what you're gonna be dreaming of that night. You know, that game. And it's like you imagine this guy is probably clinically insane. How much? Yeah, how much of that guy's identity is wrapped up in the jewel now? Does he walk around going, hey, what's up I'm a jeweled guy. Maybe he's like a maybe he's like feagles. Like feagles doesn't kick anymore. He's got to play the jewelled anymore. Like does he go to like, does he go to PAX and walk around hoping to get noticed and be like, oh hey, oh yeah, yeah, I'm the, yeah, you recognize me, I'm the Bajool guy. It's so funny that you say that, that's an interesting phenomenon, that does happen. Oh, all the time. You can get so wrapped up in a small thing, you think everybody else in the world knows about it.

Like, we've had people tell us like, yeah, I'm the Bajool guy, or, oh, you probably read the backwater forums, I'm the big poster, and it's like, what the fuck is this guy talking about? You know, that happens way too often. That happened on that podcast the other day that I was on where there was one guy on that podcast that didn't think Halo reached beyond the MLG. And I had to say, dude, I don't talk about the MLG. Nobody I know talks about the MLG.

This podcast is the most anyone's ever spoken to me about the MLG ever. And I recognize that they's ever spoken to me about the MLG ever. And I recognize that they're out there and they're pretty vocal, but what do you think is the MLG population by percent of the overall halo audience? 1%? You didn't make me a million?

A half of a percent? It's a loud fucking percentage, whatever it is. Well, they do complain about when pistols change or spawn points get moved to half. Or grenades aren't as powerful. Well, I'm in the MLG Fucking assholes. They're like professional liners right? Yeah, that's what they're good at right? I mean you don't hear about like in the NBA they change the ball

There were a couple people they complained about it or you know they make a slight change the rules You don't hear the LV NFL players like just falling down crying about shit Yeah, didn't they change to the basketball in the NBA this year something it was like two years ago to change the basketball Yeah, maybe kind of slicker and something else. I don't know what they did with a nurse It then yours the ball. Yeah I mean you're all playing with the same ball because of shit, right? Yeah, that's a matter That's an excellent point if they have a level playing field it doesn't matter That's exactly right. Yeah, yeah, I never thought about that one

Well, you said people have a better battle battle rifle Yeah, now like some people are playing with the old version of stuff and some people play with the new version. And I know the battle rifle and the DMR that's out and reach. I know those are exceptionally comparable weapons because I cannot fucking use either one. I'm finally getting I'm finally getting better with the DMR. It's taken a lot of practice when I'm finally starting to get the hang of it. I still feel like I wish it killed with one less shot. I feel like it takes one to any bullets. I feel that way about every weapon I've ever used in every game. Yeah, once I actually kill someone in reach, I'll let you know.

And then I'll have a reaction to it. But yeah, I guess we reach wasn't out by the last podcast. So what do you guys think of reach so far? I'm having a blast, dude. I'm really enjoying it. Head Hunter might be the best new idea for a game type either. I'm a little frustrated, but it's I'm frustrated a blast dude. I'm really enjoying it headhunter might be the best new idea for a game type other I'm a little frustrated, but it's I'm frustrated with the players because I'm trying to play a lot of grab bag games Like a lot of objective stuff and anytime some the group I'm in sees team slayer. They all vote for team slayer

Everyone just wants to play slayer. Yeah, what's the deal with that? There's play fucking headhunter or stockpile I was playing one of the new thing. Hey, it is a beta I guess but yeah, let's try new things then. It's the fucking beta stockpile is a awesome awesome game type and Gus is right and people want to play like classic slayer You know I give them come on I agree with you guys But you have to recognize that we're in the minority. I guess so people play slayer. That's what they play because it's MLG Or team slayer I I don't know I'm not sure I should go down this thread, but it's like I feel like

when you first lit it up in the office, it was like, you know, you could see people from Bungie, you could see some people, it was like, I don't want to say adults, but it was adults playing everyone having a good time. And then literally, I feel like by Sunday afternoon, it was like flooded with children who were just, you know, I feel like I haven't had that feeling since Halo 2, or it just dudes cussing and it's just out of control and it's like, I don't know. Yeah, it had been a loss since I played Halo 3 matchmaking online and I was I had forgotten about like slurs.

You can, well, you can say tell us what a plan reached. You're your options for the kinds of players you want to be paired with And I've done that. I've had no problems. I've done that. I've requested polite there to have fun and quiet Nice and most of the time. So I'm in games now. No one has hit so that system works. Yeah, but this is I mean occasionally You'll get someone for the most part it works. That's awesome Yeah, I got the guy who's just like going to like, you know, team kill. Yeah, I have yet to play with someone who insists on singing Lady Gaga songs, you know,

always playing the game or nice whatever that is. I hate I hate the singers. It seems like every time you play, girl, there's a G in it. Singers. There's got to be someone who just fucking singing a song the whole time. Singers from Chicago. Maybe she'd get a ringer in your game. Oh, you look for one of me. I know that. So I'm going to go home tonight and do that and see how my did you want the game to change?

There's no better song in the world than to listen to it through an Xbox headset. That's that's greatest. I don't have any problems with any of that stuff. Even when I get people who are horrible people, I was born with the frag dolls the other night. I didn't realize Jack was in the podcast. They're good friends of mine. I would actually just play with Brooke and they get harassed on a pretty regular basis. You kind of expect, because it's a room full of mostly girls. And that's most haloed players when they come in to that. They're kind of be like, it's a room full of mostly girls. You know, and that's

most haloed players when they come in there. They're kind of shocked by that. Yeah, I never get that. I'm like, I am playing with a girl. She's probably hot. Hey, let's taste her away. In real life, that dude would be like sweating, turning red and like looking at his shoes in the corner. But no, they're giving him some anonymity and a microphone. Yeah. Well, that's what to play with, too. Like, I just constantly, there those one guy and there was like berating them So I just started hitting on the guy nonstop You know, hey dude. I like girl. I like guys and then like girls too, man What are you up to what are you wearing right now?

You didn't like that very much. No, go go figure. I had a similar experience when we did our community play different Grand Theft Auto like a hundred years ago where we got some interesting dudes in and I was like All right, you know, it's eight RVB guys and then two two dickhead dickhead angry dickheads, you know And I kind of went that route to and they reported me Chopped out the game no really yeah The you know the weird thing too is the longer a game goes the more aggressive and angry the community becomes The more aggressive and angry the community becomes

Antropanity and I played a game of Saints Row Multiplayer man that was the most Like thugish group of people that have ever run a crowd. It's like everybody that plays Saints Row Multiplayer is actually playing from a jail cell pretty much right like there was one guy we joined the game and for the first two rounds of the game they are teammates at the start of the game would just kill us killing kill and you're being and stomp on us and I go guys can we just play the game and go hey shut up take your lumps it was literally like we were being

jumped in the game I've never I've never run into anything like that anywhere else. Oh, remember now you're in. I am. I'm part of the game. The hard part is now getting out. Yeah, it was leaving. You quit the game and then messes you going. No.

No. No. Yeah. It was, it was really strange. It was, but it made these maries get a better, in a weird way. I think it would take your lumps, might be my new catchphrase. Take your lumps.

Nope. No, take your lumps. I mean, the quiet. And it wasn't even aggressive, like me, and it was like, no, you shut up now. It's just a part of the process. It was a part of the process. It all makes sense one day.

I wonder if the original Xbox Star Wars Battlefront crew was like that before Xbox Live got shut off. That would have been an interesting community to analyze. The Battlefront crew, when they were getting shut down, there has to be some angers. They were always like the number two original Xbox Star Wars. Always. We talked about that. Yeah.

We talked about that a while ago. Peronially, always right behind Halo. It was them, Fable, and like Conqueror, right conquer right splinter cell splinter cell. Oh, yeah, cast here Right cast there. Yeah, so the we were talking about weird metrics before but the reach beta they put out after 24 hours They had 1.1 million people play The reach beta and they had a total number of games played of 1.7 million and I'm gonna let you guys, but I don't get in a game with anybody who's got less than 70 games played at this point or yeah It racked up pretty fast. Yeah, so how are 1.1 million players only playing 1.7 million games?

I'm in average of like a million and a half games each might be I'm doing it in a half games each might be like My mouth was a little off there. That's a one and a half games each and might might have been due to like network issues Like I know I tried to play for a little while last night. I couldn't get into a game. Yeah, there was they seem to be a little backed up at first But they've worked through it. Oh, I was assuming people just got on and then maybe said I'll just come back Come back later when you say your Thursday, right? That makes sense. It's entirely possible But you're right like every time I play like I think I'm a corporal and I'm always like Embarrassed that my rank in every game. Yeah, man. Those those guys have gotten yeah by like Sunday It was like every game you get into. There's like no everyone's higher level. It's a general really. Yeah

I don't think it was that high. I think it was like the Warren officer. Yeah, I've seen Warren officer I saw before but it was still friends with family dark sage was war and officer already. Yeah, I played a lot of games I can embarrass more by my games play games one. Yeah, that's a bad. I was you can make that private Although I saw I saw I was looking at some of the people on my friends list. E has only one game one one God damn it. He only has one one. Hey, you're gonna be busy right? Don't you're in like production or something you can't be on the podcast anymore? Maybe he needs to go on a ranger. They need to one more games If I had to fight chicken in my mouth I could do an impression of you, but

Take it easy. That's racist. Yeah, dude come on But the I am I was looking at the statistics on The, I am, I was looking at the statistics on Bungie.net for Reach because they have some of that up already. Another big stat that they have on Reach is a fucking kill death ratio. And it shows your trending of your kill death ratio. I don't need anybody to see my kill death ratio. I go positive about maybe one side of every eight games. Yeah. It's a lot more. I have like two little marks of blue on mine. We're usually

That's the bottom one. Yeah, the top's victories and losses We're all similar and that we all like to play objective type games and objective type games. Sometimes you die Take it for the team take for the team. Yeah, right? And so maybe that has really has nothing. Hey, this is bullshit I'm terrible. This is like my worst night. Yep. My statistics being put into a graphical interface. That's an infographic. Like, it's only there's a flow chart that went along with it. Maybe you can consolidate. I've been, I've been even on my KD spread more often than I've been positive. Really? That's good. No, it's fucked up. We were looking at our Halo 2 stats and I had 20 across all of Halo 2 all the years of playing a hit.

So I'm like 23,025 kills and 23,000 deaths. I was flipped. I was negative by 25 deaths across like 23,000. Damn. That's fucking crazy. It's pretty consistent though. It was pretty close to being dead even across 23. I guess that makes sense though.

I mean, because most games aren't like, I have 25 kills in no dash or a big kill 25. I mean, generally, it's going to be, it's going to skew towards the middle. Yeah, but I'm like, I'm like right there. I mean, I'm like, that's like an average of like a negative 0.008 or something like that for a game. The percentage on that is tiny.

Yeah, crazy. It was really small Now I want to look it up now. I want to look you guys up to it's interesting We'll take a picture like a big red bar. That's what mine's gonna be. I'm gonna be any you do have a lot of game You have more games that you play than anyone else on you probably you and Gavin But they weren't played very well, but I love the beta. I'm having a blast Yeah, it's a ton of fun. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. It is. In the world longer than when you have like seven steps to go with your five or six skulls to get into that circle And there's like four dudes behind you and there's bullets going all around you and you're like, please please please please please please please You actually have a worst KD spread than me. Oh, I'm sure I do you're only positive once here that I can see that doesn't surprise me

Doesn't surprise me at all. You've won maybe a few more games though Yeah, I'm doing okay on the winds actually like I'm like, I know what maybe 66% or so. We're pretty even. No, you're nine victories out of 24 games. Oh, really? And I'm nine victories out of 23 games. Hmm. That was higher than that. We played almost the same. Nice. Y'all keep vamping. I'm looking up this. I was actually playing my house early last night. It was fun. Yeah, it was good. I've discovered that playing anything other than airborne on that sword base map, sword, or whatever.

Yeah, it's pretty much worthless. Yeah. Airborne, especially when it comes to like flag games, we're trying to retrieve them or. Oh, yeah, it's a good defense. Yeah, you got to be airborne. So did you see that the new track, I guess, College of Duty game got announced?

Black ops. Yeah, College of Duty Black ops. Yes, I I did when's that coming out November 9 yep wow I also saw that they announced that the news dollars for some leash 2 comes out in October I believe it's gonna oh yeah yeah yeah did and did you see there's new dragon age content coming up that's dark spawn awakenings or something comes out on the 18th. Yeah. I can't even know where.

Speaking of coming out of nowhere, they had fucking massive, I don't know why I'd swear about it, but they had fucking mass effect too, do you'll see today? Is there anything to that deal see or is it just equipment instead? It's just equipment. Yeah, I don't get that. But they just didn't advertise it at all.

They were just like, oh, by the way, today there's DLC. That's cool. I guess. I can't understand the reason you're trying to do Aoo and you're trying to like report with these things that are happening. I don't understand why they release like equipment and stuff. Our people still like going back and replaying or playing that game. Like why wouldn't they come out with that like right at the beginning? Because if I was still playing the game, I would, I would, I would, I would help you pick it up. Yeah. I

guess I mean, they see the metrics. I guess I'm interested in replay value and it seems like there would be or am I wrong. Yeah, but I've already played it three times. Well, for other people, we'll only play once will he play once me man it comes out in the same day that's a big day in May it comes out that Dragon Age DLC comes out the same day as Red Dead Redemption Allen Wake Prince of Persia well is it Alan Wake on the 11th nope okay 18th so Gus for Halo 2 you have 5,247 kills, okay, and death you have 6,263 Seagr, that's about right negative 1,000 lifetime on kill death Joel. No, I was pretty drunken during most Halo 2 games in my defense. I don't want to know. You don't want to know yours? No, it's bad right? It's terrible. Joel has 25,367 kills.

Total deaths 32,198. That's almost a 10,000 swing. Jeff, I don't think yours is here. Yeah, I would have been a different account probably. Yeah, you changed. What about Gavin? No, look him up. But I had mine on here too.

Because I feel like he played more than I was. Here's mine. Total kills 17,000, excuse me, 17,000, 891 total deaths, 17,954. Wow, it's like 60 cars. That's crazy. Yeah, and I probably threw it off with playing those, the playing in that last run.

I actually didn't do as well, because I had played Halo 2 and so long. Yeah, I got to the point like that with Halo Halo 3 for me where it's like I let the game sit. I let the game sit. The longer I let it sit, the more I was afraid even interact with it because like I knew I was like not going to be nearly sharp. Well sharp for me, but as it was.

I'm looking at Gav. Your old gamer tech Jeff, you only had 35 games played on it. Really? So you switch to a... Okay, Gavin has negative 5,000. He's got 20,000 versus 25,000. Hmm. So that's over the scope of the whole. That's how he did.

I did pretty well. You did pretty well in our group. I played a lot of rumble pit, though. I remember in Halo 2. Yeah. More than other stuff. I'm pretty sure that little assault on Zanzibar. Man, I fucking love assault. What do you, what do you, will come back?

I hope so. What do you guys like, I'm sure we haven't seen everything yet Like what's your favorite thing to like what you go to thing on Halo 3 guys? Halo 3 yeah, I'm really not picking you in Halo 3 actually. I like I like capture the flag stuff. I like lone wolves still I'd like objectives objective. I like playing by myself It's almost to me like the fact of a beta coming out or a new halo experience coming out Is it everybody that you've liked playing with? They're all back in one place again.

Yeah. Spread out across different games. And that's a good thing. It's almost like a family reunion. Yeah. I mean, there's dudes that I used to play with all the time. I haven't played with a long time. An hour playing a game.

It's fun. The crazy thing for me was that Halo 3, you know, asked me what the dominant thing in Halo 3 was for you. Mine would definitely be Gripball. I have more custom games than match made games in Halo 3. Wow, because it was a custom game. That's interesting. Yeah, it wasn't in matchmaking at all for a long time. And once that started, I mean, we played hundreds and hundreds of games of Griffball. Couldn't help it. Griffball is pretty awesome. I'm a big fan. My last list of like, if you look at at my history my last list is all custom games. This boring shit

By the way, that's something else. Did you see that I guess the Air Force performed like a security test on Airman And they sent out an email I guess like some kind of internal security team sent out like a pseudo fishing email saying hey Transformers 3 is gonna film at the Air Force base saying Guam Submit all your personal information on this web page to be considered as a part for it to be an extra in the movie. And overwhelming that everyone filled out like the social security, like all tons of information, start forting it onto civilians and people outside the military. And then they started filling it all in and populating all the information.

And eventually I had to come out and say, Oh, this was just a training exercise to see if you guys were going to do this y'all idiots Man, I would not let that get out that that happened. Yeah, I guess they They had to send out a clarification after To tell people that it wasn't real. It's amazing how unsavvy people are I got on a um, and these are all fairly young dudes in the middle in the Air Force, too I mean you're thinking probably 18 to 35 Yeah, I guess it would like the rumor even like spread over to transformers fan sites that I've

never heard of before. Good Lord. I can name me times a day. I bring Gus over to my desk saying, hey, I'm getting this weird certificate error on this. What do you think about this? Do you think it's okay? Like we read through the certificate problem.

It was for a payroll issue that I was having. And I guess our payroll company let their SSL security certificate lapse. And I was like, I'm not touching this thing because I don't trust that this is not wrong, you know? That this is not some kind of fishing site. I'm always convinced if I go to like my bank, it's not my bank. Someone has set up a webpage,

someone in the world that looks just like my bank. I'm chewing this, I'm talking here. I guess you're gonna kill me for this. Yeah, I will. But no, I totally agree. Like, and the worst part, and the most scary part is when it comes to stuff like DNS poisoning I'm chewing some talking, you're going to kill me for this. No, no, I totally agree. The worst part, and the most scary part, is when it comes to stuff like DNS poisoning, where you'd never even know where a third party gains access to your DNS server and everything,

you type in everything correctly. You go to BankofAmerica.com, but they're rogue DNS server instead of sending you to realbankofAmerica.com, redirects you to a fake bank of America calm I yeah, which looks identical and just is there to get you using them in your password. Yep. I believe it I believe it I'm also convinced it like they'll like take it and then pass you through to the real site Yeah, I'm gonna do that too. You don't get scary as shit. Mm-hmm. God is so scary It's a kind of thing to you. Well, I like I don't use hotel internet if I use hotel internet

And I use any kind of thing We have to log in even to our site. I come back and the first thing I do is change all my passwords and we're log in I just don't trust it We're gonna have at our new office. I'm sending up our network to where we'll have VPN capability to where if you're on the road you can connect back remotely through to our office securely and then tunnel through the internet and our office That's cool. So you'll have a point-to-point secure connect back remotely through to our office securely and then tunnel through the internet and our office. That's cool.

So you'll have a point to point secure connection from wherever you are to make sure everything's safe. You're on a known network essentially. Can you make the quote march with your fingers when you say safe? Thank you very much. Safe go. Safe go.

It's a A-puh. Well, it's the same thing. Part of the reason why I don't use cloud services either because you like it Do you like how you don't like cloud? I'm not a fan of cloud. It's Jack. That's a big fan of cloud That's what it is. Yeah, I don't just I don't trust that and then I mean moves we fucked up and all your shit got erased You know, that's like yeah, that's like the best Kiss scenario a while ago right where exactly happened, but it seems like that's a trend right is things trending towards that Yeah, everyone loves it. I mean I use it for some stuff, but nothing seems like that's the trend, right? Is things trending towards that? Yeah, everyone loves it.

I mean, I use it for some stuff, but nothing for, you know, for nothing critical, nothing sensitive. What's the cloud thing that happened just recently where they deleted a bunch of people's data? Was it sidekick? Yeah. That's right. They had that data out. It should they deleted it and it was gone for a long time, but I think they eventually recovered it after a couple of weeks. What's it deal really?

Yeah, the eventually managed to get it back. What's the deal with danger? They actually said that. Sorry, Jeff, they actually set that, sorry Jeff. They actually set that the data was lost. And then I think like the San engineers, the company that developed the San, like went out to show them how to recover it

and was able to actually recover it. Well, that is a big fucking thing to release if you're not exactly sure. Yeah, I'm kidding. Well, too, as far as they knew, maybe it was God. Okay, but let's call the manufacturers, you may be, I think it's more some further options. I mean, what did the SAN manufacturer read the press release

and go, hey guys. It probably, they're like, oh shit. Yeah, this could hurt sales. Why don't you hit the blue button? The restore button, it'll be fine. But yeah, I guess Microsoft bought danger, right? Yeah, I'm on time to go. And then the result of that is the new kin phone,

which I don't think we've talked about yet. No, I was gonna ask is what is sidekick been up to? What is danger been up to? I think the danger project's been working on the kin, which is like that new Microsoft phone. I don't know anything about the kin. Tell me about it. Well, now you're on the spot. I don't know much about it either. I think it's just supposed to be like an integration of like a lot of cloud services, like imagine the sidekick, but much better. Will it does it have zoom functionality? I believe so that's pretty cool

But now that you have put me on the spot. I'm going to be doing some very quick fact It's a social media device and they have like a little puck version that there's two versions of it And one is more of a standard phone smartphone with the other one is just like Essentially social media services, huh? And you know, they're just trying to capture that market. I don't know. I mean, it's not, it's not honestly very high up on my radar, but if people start showing up at them a lot of places,

what are you going to do, right? Yeah. Speaking of people showing up a lot of places. Are there any out yet? I mean, when, as far as I knew, they weren't out. I don't know, dude. I don't think, we started a topic that nobody knows anything about.

Next up up particle physics So you guys see that the iPad sold a million or the iPad that Apple sold a million iPads in 28 days faster than the iPhone Yeah, faster than the iPhone That's pretty crazy, but how are you feeling about your iPad? Because you bought one I love it. I just discovered last night a problem Not with the iPad but with e-readers. That's pretty fucking annoying What is that? You know I listen to npr every morning on the way into work when I'm taking a military school And they always have these great book reviews and I always sound like good books that I want to read

And so I've been writing them all down and over the past three weeks I've I've written down like seven books that I wanted to buy and last night I thought I'm gonna get on the iPad Get into I books and buy these books and I could find two out of the seven and that I wanted to buy. And last night I thought, I'm gonna get on the iPad, get into I books and buy these books. And I could find two out of the seven. And then I said, well, I've also got the Kindle Reader, so I'll switch over to Amazon and go through the Kindle and I found one more. So these are books that have come out in the last three months,

let's say, seven books that are all big enough to be, that have stories on NPR, you know, major releases. And I've been able to purchase three of them. Eventually, this is going to change. I hope so. Eventually. Yeah, I teens music star was very similar when it launched also.

Yeah, and it's not just I mean, it's not anything against the iPad. It's just annoying. So, it's something to be said about being against the iPad there, I think. What do you mean? Well, like Joel, you're saying it's so new, it'll change, but Apple also has a history of you want to be in ours. You're doing it's so new it'll change, but Apple also has a history of you want to be in ours, you're doing it our way. You know, so I could see like this could be turned to a fight where they get certain publishers and Amazon ends up with certain publishers. And honestly, I think Apple

will fight that battle harder than anyone else will fight it. Probably the end result is I don't care which service I buy it from. I just want to build a read the book and I don't want to have to have a you know, and hopefully Apple will see it as we have Enough of an advantage where we have the hardware and our buttons the most prominent. Let's just have you know all everyone have the same Labrision we're not going for exclusive stuff sure I think you're right. I mean I think that a fight is gonna happen right but right You know, I don't know it's always everyone try to get proprietary on everybody else. I wonder how big the eReader market really is It's a good question. I don't know Well, how many how many apps have you

Downloaded for your iPad from my iPad. Yeah Oh, I'm gonna say 10 probably how many of them were free Maybe half I don't have problems paying for apps. The most expensive app I've purchased is was Plants vs Zombies. And I definitely got my money's worth out of that game. I beat it the other day. Awesome. God, this game did not hold my attention. We've already talked about that. Yeah, it's a really game. To answer your earlier question, yes, the kin has zoomed functionality. That's cool. Will you go to play games? Windows mobile games? Just not say. I'm just comparing the specs of the two models.

I'm going to grill you they uh... apparently just what's the retail price in this they like they read the kid is not out yet it'll be out later this month how long is it a little hard to be through various barb and tell me charge times i guess the kid to which is like the bigger one has an eight megapixel camera and shoots hd video it says man speaking of charge times

i have still only charge my ipad twice and i use it a little bit every day and i looked at yesterday because i was talking about it with Griffin and I thought to myself I wonder when the last time I charged this was let me look and I had 84% of the battery left still That's crazy. Yeah, I think I don't know how long the charges, but it must be like 15 hours. Wow It's pretty awesome. And that's one of the big debates going on between Steve Jobs and like Adobe right regarding flash Mm-hmm as what they're talking about battery life on mobile devices man the vates going on between uh... steve jobs and like uh... doby right regarding flash mhm as what they're talking about battery life on mobile devices really they're

really cut the road we talked about that because i think that's the biggest battle in the battle ground right now is a doby and flash or uh... see me apple and uh... doby i don't understand where that came from what that's not a little bit of you you can see a comment we we we talked about it a few weeks ago in the podcast i was really listening to some of the podcast and I think somebody sitting in this chair said I think the biggest battle going on or just gonna happen is it's Adobe and Apple no but like even looking further back that I don't understand you know where the

bad blood came from it's not just competing premier and final cut products or anything yeah well the Steve Jobs said at one point that they get error reports when a Matt crashes which I think a Matt crashing is a very big deal to them. And they look over their crash reports, which is nice. No, somebody does that actually, but they said that an overwhelmingly high number comes from flash. I will cause their computers to crash. I wonder what the percentage of them is Gus saying soundtrack pro is a piece of shit. I was about to make a joke about that. I'm glad you said it and stuff. Because that happens. I know Flash does not crash my soundtrack pro.

I would I was on the dig day of the day or maybe it maybe CNN and there was a poll on CNN that asked where you stand and on the whole Apple versus Adobe thing and it was overwhelmingly pro-Adobe. Really? Yeah, it was like 68 or 69% thought Adobe was in the world. We're still living I think in a PC world, aren't we? I think that must be it. Yeah. Well, bless also, I don't like polls like that,

because you don't know if these people necessarily understand the question or understand what flash is. Sure. Well, yeah, but it's not about the truth. It's about just perception. Yeah, exactly. Trying to understand the population believes on stuff. But yeah.

I do find without flash on my phone. It doesn't bother me. Yeah, I don't miss it. I think Adobe really has an uphill battle to keep flash relevant, I think, with HTML5 video encoding. It's competing against them. And I think, with HTML5 video encoding, like, you know, competing against them. And I think there are Adobe's really benefiting from the fact that there's two different standards

for HTML5 right now, which is fucking stupid. I wonder if Silverlight has made any kind of a noticeable dent in their market at all. Could I ask you? They're great asking questions we can't answer. You're really on a bottom line. I see Silverlight more and more of these days. I see it a lot. Yeah, and it's usually like in the cooler on like Used in cooler ways, you know, and pretty impressive ways like if you watch the Alan Wake stuff

That's obviously Silverlight because it's Microsoft thing But the stuff they do with Silverlight on that on those Alan Wake web episodes. I showed him to you. It's really impressive I wonder if Gabel Corps is gonna switch over to Maybe I don't know. I want to back up what I said earlier this is a quote from an article about when right around the time the iPad launched says more recently word leaked out from Apple's employee only meeting after the iPad introduction that jobs had slammed flash according to a report unwired he responded to an employee question that quote whenever a

Mac crash is more often than not it's because of flash and that quote no one will be using flash the world is moving to HTML5 so he's making no bones about it man. It's pretty serious. That was a pretty serious letter he published. Yeah. The other day. Yeah that kind of sucks dude. Hey speaking of Max and Steve Jobs I had to clean out my attic at my old house the other day because you know I was going through this whole thing and which is why I found those drunk gamers keychains that I gave you guys. You know what else I found in there? I found the first period. No, no, no. I found the first time we were ever in a publication. It was Mac rumors.

Yeah. Yeah. Mac rumors. Or what was it called? Mac design. Oh yeah, Mac design. I've heard about the tiger thing on the cover yeah I found I found just just like sitting in my attic on the ground covered in dust I'm out of it. I brought it you know I have it somewhere it was pretty funny though that tiny little like a little instead of a few yeah you don't like this one there's like a screenshot of that quick time player when you're right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah make it fun to max that point time how far the world's come how far how far indeed you know to talk about marketer and things like that what is apples marketer world wide And we were making fun of Max at that point in time. How far the world come? How far?

I'm sorry. You know, take about a market share and things like that. What is Apple's market share worldwide? I think it's like 11% of desktop computers. How is your 12th in there, but it's in that range definitely. And you know, that's a great range, Joel, for a computer manufacturer. It seems like this kind of David against Goliath. But really, Max is a huge company.

They have 12% of the market here That's pretty goddamn impressive, but you have to compare it like Dell and HP and everyone else Second, I was gonna do yeah who has all the other marketer. It's not just you know You know 12% versus 88% right I Wonder what that's gonna be what that figure's gonna be in another 10 years as they slowly Changing I don't know though you like you used to their iPhone

People get used to the iPoders like the Mac hardware growth was double digit Wasn't really yes it was Hardware includes iPhones and iPads no no just the max just the max I mean look 11% 10 12% something like like that like I like it here's a maximum Max computer, but I don't know they have made a hell of a headway there's a graph of the market share trend The green one atop is HP I'm gonna walk over there with like a little over 30% Dell is trending down around 25 and there's Apple at the very bottom But this is they have like a corner of this graph.

Apple has like 5%. I can't be right. How old is that graph? That's from January. Does that include, maybe that's just desktops and not laptops? No, I don't know. Could be.

As well. So what was HP's final share there at the end? Look like a little over 30. Like 32, 33? Damn, HP. You go. I know that when my wife is still in college, I would sometimes go to classes,

whether they're pick up from classes or whatever, and every single kid in that. If there was a kid with a laptop in one of our classes, they had a Mac, you know, so like, this is a really famous picture that people put out online of. It's a college classroom and everyone has a laptop at their desk and it's all those white glowing apolo goes. Oh really? One dude has like an IBM and one dude has no computer at all. Have you ever seen that obnoxious video that dude who took a typewriter in a class with him? Yeah it's funny. He goes in and he's like taking notes at the press like what is that? I'm sorry I'm not taking notes to get out of here with that. That's awesome. That's pretty funny. It's one of those collapsible

kind you carry on those suitcase. You should me a terrible video today Which they Justin Diver video This is just a b-word doesn't know what German is I guess I don't know what's important for what Germany is man I mean admittedly I hate to say but in his defense the question was maybe maybe he didn't hear the question properly or something but then the host shows him the card and it's like right here I mean I read this like I don't know what that means we don't say that in America we don't say that we're German in America dude patriotic he's still mad it fucker holds a grudge it's World War 2

but I don't want to let it go just to be where how old is Justin Bieber was he like 16 15 is he I don't know what What did he come from I like add nowhere? I think came from YouTube. Is that what was yeah? I think you got popular on YouTube and it was like all at once. I think usher signed him or something like that Okay Hey, you're my picture Jeff. Yeah, I had two pictures that I love that's one of them That's so it's like this overwhelming picture completely candid where everyone in there apparently just has a Mac in that college classroom, which says a lot. I mean, it really does say a lot. And the other one that I like to show to people is there's a picture from so much of our

culture now. It's like a where's Waldo? Find the non, find the Dell laptop. It's a lot of glowing white apples. But it's crazy. It's crazy. It's a lot of apples. It's the picture, the Obama picture of all the other ones.

That's the other one that I love to show to people. It's such a, it's crazy. So I wrap around his picture, the Obama picture of all the other phones. That's the other one that I love to show to people. It's such a, it's so indicative of our culture. It's the inaugural ball, the youth inaugural ball for Obama when he was elected. And he's up on stage with his wife. And everyone in the crowd is of course facing the president and is like looking at him as he comes out for his inauguration. And the youth inaugural ball is like, I guess everybody who's under the age of 25 who worked

on the campaign. Literally, every single person in the crowd is holding up some kind of video recording device. It's just like, you can almost see on the little window LCDs. You can see the president's wife up there. It's just so crazy. Like, they're everyone's first inclination is to record, you know, that it's approved that they're there or something. So you're at the cool, you've been working on this for months, if not years, to get this guy in the White House. You're there just fucking enjoy it. I think that's a fundamental thing now.

It's a larger question when people would rather, you know, show off what they've done than actually, I don't know. Enjoy your experience. Or maybe they just want to remember it rather than experience it the first time. Yeah. Remember when we saw the president and recorded it? That was awesome. We used to make fun of them, but we talked about going to E3. We used to make fun of the guys back in 2003, 2004, who apparently would go to E3 and they

would literally watch the entire show through their LCD on their video too. And they just walked with it in front of them. And they would narrate, remember we make fun of those guys. It's the constant narrate and everything that's taking place. Yeah. We can wonder who is that for? Who is he doing that for? You know, this is before YouTube and all that stuff. And it was just like, does he go home and then watch it himself or does he pass the videos out to his friends? It's like, and now that's that guy is everybody. No YouTube. Now he's got an outlet. Yeah, it is. He got a distributor. And I a distributor. I guess so My guess so reminds me that great onion piece they did about that What funny things ever?

That's so funny. Hey, they really man onion really hits it on the head They did one the other day. I can't remember was now, but it was so friggin perfect. Were we watching it together? No, I don't think so I'm sorry. It's unmute. I'm sorry. It's unmute. My mute is broken. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. Well, we're talking about Apple products. So what, so you guys read about the nightmare and almost Street remake? Made the what to make? 35 million?

34 million. 34. Against a $35 million budget. And apparently everyone says it's crappy. Smash fucking hit, though. Good Lord, dude. It's available at D-Box. At Galaxy Highlands Cinema. The thing that I hear about it is like the worst thing you could ever say about a horror movie is that it's boring

Like you don't only hear that about a horror movie and you're just like fighting to get from scene to scene Well, those are boring in your skull With a gerail that's kind of cool Yeah, it's funny. It's just like you know that branding, you know They're gonna make a movie and it's gonna make money. It's also just like you can't I don't think you can fail with horror in general Unless you're a blur which too Yeah, I'll make some lesser blower I have all of you guys go into that deep was it called debauches? I've never been I've never been either

I went how was it? I talked about the last time on the podcast. Yeah, it's worth it I had to I had to leave clash the Titans, but I got to watch what Tim minutes of Clash the Titans. That was Tim minutes of Clash Titans. It was okay. You know, one thing I didn't like is a big deal with me is the chair kind of makes that servo noise when it moves like, oh, right. Like that little wine.

You know, it's a little disrupting to like the. Because it gets the shots of now wait, wait till a little two years from now when that chair is nearing the end of its lifespan. And it's like, if it was a movie about C3PO would be awesome. Wait until two years from now when that chair is nearing the end of its lifespan It was a movie about C3PO be awesome The Gold Class cinema opens up in Austin this week, I think is that gonna be in the domain. Yeah, okay Finally finally's happening. Yep What are the what are tickets cost for that Gold Class? I think like 20 or 25 bucks and they serve food and booze right? Yeah, I think the popcorn and the blanket is free

But the food and the booze cost there's a blanket yeah there's a blanket you get in a pillow awesome are you okay Bernie I was like he said I was like R2D to you are a little bit droid and it just made me laugh thinking my ear if your seat was a droid you know Jack goes up the sitting he goes I Did they would ever break down the language of R2? Do you like me and guess I kind of I'm sure somebody probably did This me there we go. Thanks mother. Oh, I'm surprised there aren't you surprised there aren't nerds, like speaking to other nerds who are speaking clean on it, Comic Con or something. Yeah, that's a great conversation. Listen to a clean on talk to an R2 unit. That'd be funny.

Or a clean on talk to a wookie. Do you see that the Dead Space 2 trailer came out the other day? Yeah, I haven't watched it. It is good. It's alright, yeah. You finally see Isaac's face. Oh really? What do you look like a dude? Okay, big surprise there. Yeah, I guess that game's coming out early next year Dead Space 2 is a straight-up sequel to Dead Space 1, right? No, what does that mean? Why don't they be like a prequel or? No, it's a sequel. Is it a sequel? Yeah, still haven't even played the game great And it's basically so good. Good game. You liked it right? You did yeah, it was awesome

It was a great game. They game. It was so good. A good game. You liked it, right? Yeah, it was awesome. It was a great game. They really got a good job of final boss. Was really fun to do. All the creepy stuff they just nailed. Yeah, they did. Do you know, I jacked told me because he did, I think he did like an event where like a press event with them and he got to go on a tour with them and shit.

And he was telling me that the guys to make those creepy monsters, the artists, like the concept artists, they looked at car crash victims. Yeah, that's like the monster. That's an all of a sudden. Yeah, that's pretty fucked up. But I guess like to get that realistic level of war, it's creepish. Shit. There's a fun game.

I'm really looking forward to the sequel. I'm wondering if The sequel is gonna sell better than the original did be interesting. Does it have a? Well, there's a there's an interesting stat on that space Regarding things, but does it have a release date? I did said early 2011. Yeah, that was the big thing is that they they determined EA determined that dead space dead space sold a million and a half copies But that it had been sold three million times. Or the three million players had played it all along. Three million players had played it online, so that they did, you know, roughly every copy that was sold got resold.

Yeah. Wow. That's going to be... I'm sure that's a big reason they start that $10 initiative. I think probably, yeah. I think that happened a lot with Mirrors Edge and Dead Space. When they had it, it this really cool initial like new MPs there pumping out. I bet a lot of use copy of a Halo 3 ODSC got so this

week. Yeah no kidding man. Yeah I think it's just I think the kind of things a smart move it rewards people who've bought the game you know it's a free beta they don't have to give it up to anybody at all. Yeah you know why not let people have a chance to play it. I'll be honest. If I was making Halo Reach, I would be too nervous about let's put the game out there and let people play it. I would just be like, let's just develop this thing

and people will understand that it's gonna be kind of bumpy road and we first start this thing. I wonder how much of it's like become like marketing at this point where they know, you know, I don't know. I think lots of times it is marketing, but I think this one it seems like they really do you know, I don't know. I think lots of times it is marketing, but I think this one, it seems like they really do collect data

and do tuning with it. If, you know, like server load, you know, weapon balance and things like that. I'm sure they do, but, you know, I mean, it seems like the beta helps. I mean, oh, sure. I'm sure it doesn't. I think in a lot of cases though, it's just marketing.

That is one, and if you are playing the game, you know what I mean? There's a lot of people who are very casual, and it's like two one that you are playing the game You know what I mean? There's a lot of people who are very casual and it's like two weeks is enough with a game You know what I mean? I would be nervous about it But it worked clearly works for them. You know what I mean? And I think who knows for having a bravery to do it You know, yeah, and that is one thing you have to you have to say for bungee is when their game comes out It's pretty fucking balanced and there's not a lot of patches coming out You're not hearing about weapon fixes every other week

Yeah, I'll do it seems like every time I turn around, there's like a new call duty patch to fix it. Yeah, and it's choices to like release it to like everybody and then like get fixes. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I'm just saying, I'm just saying putting it to himself in their shoes. Then again, we do work all week long to make a video and then just immediately put it out for free. Here you know what I mean. So I guess we're doing that. But when you're talking about a product that's you know Three years in the making you know, that's a little bit different. Yeah, I'm sure they spend a little more money working on Hilla reached and we did on

Let's say red versus blue. I would say there's a little more stake money wise. Yeah, I'd like to see some sort of a flow chart on that Preferably from the internet We kind of accepted it's done because Hilla 3 did it, but a beta for a console game. Had that ever happened before Halo 3? You could... I don't know. An open beta where anybody in the world can play like this blur? Have you been playing Blur at all?

No, I haven't played Blur, but I will say I played split second and skate through. It's almost... I mean, you could think of demos as being kind of like beta's, but I guess the difference is like a multiplayer thing right? Mm-hmm. That's a really interesting point though I can't I do definitely download more demos than ever before now and I can't remember doing that ever before Halo 3 Yeah, you were very anti-demo before was I yeah, you used to be very anti-demo You told Gavin he was stupid for playing demos. Well, he's defense Gavin stupid. Yeah, Gavin is stupid. That fact is not I don't even I don't even remember the point I had there or like why I was I didn't like I think you didn't want to track from the game. Oh really? Yeah. I don't I don't feel that it does now, you know. I've

had a hell of a lot of fun playing the skate three. Babe, I'm still going to buy it or the skate three demo rather. You know, it would be great one day if Microsoft or whoever, just let out the metrics on what are the conversion rates from people playing trials to people playing, you're buying the actual full game. I guess it depends on the game probably. Yeah. It'd be cool if you could download a demo

and then like kind of like on Xbox Live arcade, where like you play it for a bit and it's like, hey, do you want the full version? And you could just unlock the whole thing. Like games on demand or something like that? Well, I played you know, yeah, but I'm saying like that But like for a full game like you could get the mass effect games on demand and you know play for five minutes But hey, you like this that is a six gig download though. That's you know, I mean kind of you can stream the initial content to you

Like world of warcraft does that when you sign up for wow you can stream it and start playing like within 10 minutes Yeah, but wow is like its own economy. I was just saying that's several gigs as well and there's a method to it. Do you guys think that next week when Mejneelson publishes the weekly use, do you think Halo Reach will be number one? I do. Oh shit, right? Well, they have a lot of players.

I saw two thousand people on last night. They have one million players in 24 hours, one point one million. Not everyone can get it, you have to have ODST. They're where I think they would they publish like four million five million copies that were sold. Some like that. Yeah, I think it's all five the latest numbers. Yeah. So, you know, but I mean, they don't ever tell you exactly how many people played it. Are a million people a week playing Modern Warfare 2 at this point? Because that's what it has to be. Ah, I would think so. Probably. Yeah, it does, it's pretty impressive. Yeah.

I mean, this isn't just like a bait of, you get, but you definitely ashboard. Like, I remember seeing the FIFA demo when it came out. I remember seeing it as like number three or four. So. We see that with Lefford dead too, as well. I remember we see Lefford dead two demo up there along with Lefford dead two.

And some Resident Evil stuff I've seen. So yeah, that'd be interesting. I wonder I wonder what it does. I wonder where Halo 3 if Halo 3 will then drop next week because everybody who plays Halo 3 is playing the reach beta. We should try to play Halo 3. Yeah, you would think so, but like it didn't seem that modern warfare 2 affected the modern warfare rankings. That game still shows up pretty high. What do you say? Modern Warfare 2? Okay.

So that franchise confusing. That's confusing itself. Yeah. Yeah, that is still stayed there. Yeah, the COD6 versus the COD4. Yeah. And now left for dead. Now we have stuff like left for deadware.

They're currently developing content for both versions of the game. In fact, asynchronously, because they're going to put up the left-redead content after left-redead 2's content. Which occurs earlier in the timeline, right? That's confusing. Yeah, right? I think so. I would just assume that, but yeah. I think that stuff is kind of nebulous with them. Oh, that reminds me. The new mutation should be out for like, you're reminding me, yeah. Yeah, should hop on a play. What did I got last week should I think it probably came out like over the weekend yeah there's your Friday yeah oh wow should play it that's

that's it that's it's overshadowed by the the reach beta yeah for sure there there's an achievement to play six mutations and since there's one a week you got a man can take a minute six weeks and probably has honestly the coolest avatar award of any game ever, which valid, by the way, you've got to give him credit for having Avatar awards, because nobody does. That's true. What's the Avatar award?

You get a prop for your Avatar? Garden, no. That's a lot of fantastic. Yeah, he had to do it, it takes six weeks to get it. You know when you're... Jesus. Concurrently or concurrently. No, you had to play one, you had to play six different six weeks to get it. You know when you're Jesus concurrently or completely you have to play one Get to play six different mutations and they change once a week. Yeah, so just log on once a week for six weeks

And you'll get it. Wow man on avatar or not avatar, but like awards in general. I just they didn't hit with me as I was Just browsing around the dashboard last night and then I saw the awards thing and I was like what the fuck is all right And I looked at it and I had a bunch of awards. I didn't even realize I had I think the only awards I have is the Star and the First aid kit from left for dead. Oh, yeah Yeah, I have a couple and left for dead too and I have a couple from waypoint and then I had one from like Explosion man or something they should they should stop selling them I think and they should just make them all

skill base or unlockables. Absolutely. That's what I like. Absolutely. That's what I like. I want something. The fact that you can buy them is making them just seem kind of lame. And if anything, why don't you just make DLC that then supplements the game. Yeah. You know, or give away like a free t-shirt for the thing. But yeah, that's absolutely. They also, I think also they kind of ruin it because they end up if they do have an unlockable avatar award. It's typically not the best thing like the best thing is for sale The other thing is something you necessarily want like there's bio shock helmets They should have those for people who got a thousand points in bio shock, too Mm-hmm, right instead of people who just bought them because then it was like where the fuck did you get that helmet?

Yeah, so get to work for it. Yeah, I kind of like unlocking the sword in Halo 3. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, but of course the people cheated for that, Gavin. What do you have to do to unlock that sword? You have to go a thousand point to game. You have to thousand point Halo 3 and then you get the sword. And okay, I guess I have it then.

Yeah. How did Gavin cheat? Remember he got in that suspicious game where everyone got their They're overkill all at the same time that was not Gavin Was it that was someone else we know whose name but Gavin the Gavin to be he's Gavin of cheating because we saw his save game Because he put it up for us to prove it in cheap and it was still suspicious Yeah, like his third and fourth kill were literally dude standing still waiting for Gavin to hit him. And he slayers that he just caught them by surprise. They were just standing there.

Theater mode is the greatest thing in the world. I'm really glad they have that in the beta. That was deep for reach. I got to watch Joel get two kills in a team slayer game the other day. I am the fricking expert at bouncing grenades off the fucking walls. Yeah, it is. In the wrong direction. Dude, I think a grenade like there was an entrance like a doorway and at the bottom of the doorway

you think it's a flat map. You see a seam for the bottom of the door. That seam is real brother because I've got a grenade. I threw a grenade and hit that seam in the map. It just bounced right back at me. You went under the carpet. Unbelievable. You think that's a texture? That's not a texture. I couldn't even bounce right off that motherfucker. They rolled into the couch. You reach it down under there, five-quarter. I will bounce on the skittles and ways that it's unbelievable. But you know where it's going to end up. Right next to my head. Man, awesome. I was playing some guys. They all had the same

fucking name, you know, like SLB and then GD. some clan or whatever. So yeah, they you know and that's your game or tank too so they're committed to this. Sure. I always just spray it with the assault rifle and it was like kind of close where I beat him down but it was like I clearly had the drop on him. Yeah, you know and that's the thing is like I got I got an extra seconds or the like laying into him with my assault rifle. He should be the turner to hit me. I go down dead and he goes running it off and no tea bagging or anything like you into him with my assault rifle. He should be the turner to hit me. I go down dead and he goes running it off. And no tea bagging or anything. Like you're used to that, like getting tea bagging

like any motherfucker or whatever. The guy literally just hear him over like proximity voice chat and he just goes, man, that guy was terrible. I've never, I've never been on solo. Oh man. He almost, yeah, just like the right little mix with a little touch of concern for me I hope I didn't ruin a little kid's day like casual the I gotta use that from now on just like

At least at least you didn't get why don't you get your Joe Joe act together. That was the worst thing ever didn't get why don't you get your joe joe act together that was the worst thing ever well yeah you're joe act together yeah I hate my username alright we should probably wrap this up we got some reach baited to go back and play let's do it oh yeah all right thanks for listening all right everybody describe the show to a newcomer and a more familiar way do you like apples all right example together and trepid hosts charm of columns charm of columns after the ideas of nothing to do with this Do you like apples? Alright, example. Together in Trempathos, Trempathos,

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