Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #7

Episode Date: May 29, 2009

Rooster Teeth welcomes special guest star Matt Hullum Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie comes the new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-oxane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnett, and Thomas Hayden Church.

Twisted metal, streaming now now only on peacock Welcome to the Ristreet podcast Matt theme song I don't know the theme song. What is it? It's different every week. I know the theme song that's in my head right now is my four-year-old goes to this Church kind of class thing he does and they've he's somehow single-handedly switched from saying prayers before lunch to now the entire class of four-year-olds all things The theme from Superman but barking as if they're dogs and this is it this is somehow qualifies as a prayer and this in this in this church school and a metaphor for religion in general If there is a god, I'm sure he approves That's it Who would you approve is rof rof rof rof rof rof?

I think it's how it goes for like five minutes You know, I just got an aim from Ben just now. It said something something is the best web invention I have seen in my lifetime So the question becomes will Ben hate this thing before the end of the podcast? I'm wondering if he's already hating it since seeing that email. It's like I totally rips him that email.

I hate it already. Ben is like getting like this, a malgum of all the traits of Rishi's employees. Jeff is the guy who, Jeff's on vacation this week, by the way. It's probably gonna make fun of him more easily. And we have Matt, say hello Matt. Hey, I'm not, I'm not filler.

I'm the real deal. You're, you're, you're, Jeff, Jeff was filling in for me. The previous six weeks. No, you're special guest star. So I should, I like that even better. It's like a custom pedal. Just from way too important for this bullshit every week. Yeah.

I just come in, you know, to bring up the ratings and then I'm out, I'm fucking out of here. It's the heavy hitter. It's, it sweeps week. Well, I'm sorry to say Matthew, your theme song is actually Worst and Jeff's, who is possibly the worst singer in the history. Hey, when you insult me, you're insulting children and religion. So I would take that back in dogs and superman.

And so we may be going to hell on Krypton. Yeah, we may be cutting Jeff's theme song in as the permanent podcast theme song. It was so good. Anyway, you were saying Ben's accumulating all of our worst traits. Well, like Jeff's the guy who will every time he discovers something, it's like going to be the greatest thing in his life. Like, it's going to be the thing that changes his life. It doesn't matter what it is.

He just found out about soup the other day. Yeah. Soup's like the greatest thing ever now. Is that his current thing? No, I don't. Everything's the best. Or the greatest. This is the best.

The best? The greatest. This is the greatest why. I mean, that's half of Jeff's day this is the greatest X this is the greatest Y I mean, that's half of Jeff's day right there That's half of the conversations with Jeff and it's like he sits down He's like how am I gonna revolve my life around this thing because clearly This is gonna completely change my life and make it awesome and then within what two weeks? We never hear about it again. No ever is it a two weeks even maybe a week? It varies. I'll give him that much credit. He's inconsistent. So when he comes back, when he comes back this week, he'll come back from his vacation

in Miami. So I'm wondering it's going to be like Cuban food or just Miami. Just drink bikinis or what are the what are the what are the what are the haves? Mojitos. Mojitos. That's what it could be. I've ever had a mojito before. It's the greatest thing ever. It's made with lime and sugar and sugar cane and Magic, I think would be the other ingredient Jeff would claim this in there. We're on a weird change now I'm scrambling for a way to get away from this conversation. Well I have a way how E3 starts this weekend, doesn't it? Dun dun dun. I thought E3 was over. No, no, no, I think E3 starts Tomorrow. No, I thought the whole thing was over.

Oh, it was over for a year. For a year. And then it was back. But so what is E4All? That's E3 is now like for industry people. Like it was intended to be. E4All is for the public as well. And E4All is the one that sucks.

Yes. Okay. E3Sucks too. I thought E3 went away and then the dudes who own E3 whatever those poor people are Then sold it to the people who own E4 all and then E4 all like went off did they not think we should sign a Noncompete and then they wouldn't bring back E3 It's just like trying to figure out the audio companies right now It's like I'm feeling that you're gonna start being able to buy a Chrysler fiat at the Man sign me up.

Give me on that waiting list. So the auto company's in there that their plan is, they're going to just dump brands, right? They're going to streamline. They're going to stream. Yes. I think they're going to make fewer cars, though, or they're just getting more brands.

From what you can't buy a Saturn anymore, but you can buy like 14 different varieties of GMC. Well, you're Saturn owner. Well, I'm actually sad about your Saturn owner. I am. I'm actually sad about the Saturn thing. Are you? Well, Saturn was, I thought Saturn was a cool company because it was like, one of like very like,

OK, I can't go on with this. Wow. I can't go on so fast. Because like, you can go right into the cult, feel like I have a pamphlet. I'd like you to take away. I know what to do. You know what to do.

As Saturn, it totally makes you join the cult. When you buy the car about three weeks later, you're still like in that new car kind of zone. Like I got a new car, but it's starting to fade a little bit. And that's when you get cookies in the mail. I shit you not. Saturn sends you cookies. Like, hey, thanks for buying a car. What car company sends you cookies? They don't do that nobody does that cookies it's really I'm very good and you're like

thank this is I don't know why maybe it's my nature I'm very wary of big goods in the mail but you know what the cookies that they send you have that new car smell you know you know you know you know another great thing Saturday they smell like the evergreen tree that you hang on your Saturday mirror. I said it also let you pay sticker price for your car What does that mean? It's everyone to let you pay sticker price for your car. It's like a no-haggle thing No, I'll think yeah, there's a whole long explanation about no-haggle thing would you like to hear that? I would know you wouldn't is it long how long it's too boring actually? It sounds like you

Paised a car No, it'll take every week we talk about something that's dead last week it was Paul Harvey this week at Saturn Yeah, I got accused of being too old to make a Paul Harvey reference, but you made it so Harvey drove a Saturn Did he really? Rich all dead all right, I can feel a sliding back with here. Okay, we can't start cutting brands here ourselves Let's abandon the Paul Harvey That franchise is done for us. My first car was a dots in 200 SX and it was where glass met glass on the door because the way this was like a sports car I guess but it's like a 1980 car and after a while that rubber grommet just went

away so I literally just had a gap between two pieces of glass. It just sounded like a whistle constantly in my car. It was nice. Take your own date and just shout. The entire time. The car talked though, which was fucking awesome. The car talked. Yeah. Like one of those your door is open. Exactly. Door is a jar. And it's like it wouldn't do it. Like the only thing you would do like if you left the key ignition key is in the ignition. Of course what only do is is if the car was off. So as a distanced stupid you are as a teenage driver. To show people that my car would talk I would get up to like 50 miles an hour, put the car in neutral, turn the car off, power steering, turn the car off, and then pull the key out or open the door with the key in so it would say your door is a jar or

key is in the ignition. What couldn't you do this? Your lights are on. Why couldn't you do this while you were parked? Because we're moving and it just came up in conversation. So why not put the car neutral at 50 miles an hour, turn off the car, and the steering wheel sometimes is locked like it does when you have the car turned off. So imagine that at 50 miles an hour. Brilliant.

Brilliant. You grew up in Houston, so it's a lot of straight driving. So you used to have that working in your favor. I actually didn't sell that car. I bought that car for $200 because the dude who sold it to me said, oh, this car is completely busted. The radiator, the fluid system, I'm going to complete a bus of white because this is watch.

I want to make sure you're aware of this. And he pours a picture of water into the radiator and it all just dumps out the bottom. And he said, I've changed the hoses here and everything. And this doesn't work. So anybody who wants to take this car away take this car away and, uh, you can have it for 200 bucks. So I was 15.

I was like, okay, he missed a hose. The bottom is a hose the bottom of the radiator. So I literally bought the car for $200 went to chief auto parts and bought a $5 hose and had a perfectly running car. It's crazy. Car ran for eight years. I had you knew me when I had that car, right? So what did what happened to that car?

I remember I sold it to George, a friend of ours.. Oh George. Cool. And he wanted to learn about cars. So he bought this car to like just because I sold it for $200. If I recall don't you have a story about George immediately driving that car and trying to change the oil in the parking lot. So he's going to change his own oil. So he drove it to work one day. And immediately after driving into work, he went to work changing the oil on it which if you drain the oil out of a hot engine not a great idea and he was going to catch the oil in like one of those grocery bags exactly like it like those super thin plastic bags you get at the grocery store right and to catch the oil and that goes right through that melted gets oil all over him over his hand I was laughing at it because he's covered in this black sludge but I mean he could have been burned for all my ass.

But yeah he was fine and you know. I'm building a thing burned with his ego. It was pretty funny man. You know. I mean George knows. He says a guy we used to work with. He just knows everything about everything it seems like. I don't think I've ever sold a car to a friend.

George sold a house. Like literally the house. He kept the land but sold the house and they took the house away Who do you call to do that like I need you to move my house? Somebody else bought it. Please take it away He bought just like this he bought one of these you know central us and like lots where the lots worth a ton of money He just had old house on it and so he just had to move the house away With a crane with a crane. With a crane. Yeah.

I mean, I know they can do that with mobile homes. This was a house. No, I've seen them do it. They did that to a house like three houses down from where I live. They took a house off of a giant lot, and then they split the lot up into three lots and they're selling that now. They can do that.

It's usually a pretty big deal when you try to do that. Yeah, they had to like, they literally had to cut the house on my street. They had to cut the house in half. And then they had like orders to move it. Yeah, they had to, like, they literally had to cut that, the house on my street, they had to cut the house in half. And then they had like, in order to move it. Yeah, and then they brought like two or three semis in and what did they cut in half the right way? I didn't, I took off the top floor.

I wish I, I was still too wide. What were we thinking? I wish I even cut it in half because I've no idea how they did that. Like I just walked by there one day and was like, oh, the house isn't too giant. Pieces now. I can do that. There's always like those crazy tools that you never see

until that one day that they bring it out. With your ever driving in East Texas, you'll pass some places where they do strip mining. You see these enormous machines. I don't even know what they're called. They look like they're from the future. Science fixing or something that like Just go out there and they're like, you know an acre long one machine and it's like tears up the ground

Yeah, I've ever seen those pictures on the internet of that machine that looks like a giant saw blade I just had to bring it. Yeah, and it's got like basically dump trucks on each of the on each of the teeth and it goes around It's like a it's like a saw blade with buckets for teeth Yeah, but the buckets are each the size of a dump truck That's how big they are that's crazy. And this thing just like choose to do it It's got like 30 of them are turning it. Yeah, and like moves along these like railroad tracks and just like goes It's horrible horrible that that's what that's what they should make a terminator movie about that machine I'll take over the future right there. Yeah, that's the machine. I'm scared of yeah

Like what I don't they just have that machine like just pull that out in the battlefield, you know what I mean? And just scare the shit out of people. You've never done something like that. So if you see dirt flying, you're like, what the fuck? I'm leaving. I would. I wouldn't stick around for nothing to get close to me. Yeah, they should put that in the new Call of Duty modern warfare game. Well speaking of moving... Wow. Well, I was gonna segue for moving houses to up, which I thought was a much nicer segue.

But if we want to go to the Call of Duty trailer, let's go for it So it's Call of Duty world that war fair modern warfare two trailer It's the most confusing title to me That video games get like that video games you know when they're an established franchise because the title is just get Six six, but it the title it says it's number four two four it is it's called duty four two so you had to form the two you get six so I was ever confused well I think Infinity Ward has reached the point now where they just want to separate themselves completely from the franchise I don't think I think they

just want to start calling it modern warfare and now they're like branching it off as modern warfare versus the Historical warfare the uh the the trailer came out and I watched the trailer and it looked pretty cool But I can't help but wonder do we really need trailers for video games? Is that something that we need? I mean video games as a Format and the way the game is Constructed we have the ability to have demos for video games

So if we can have a demo an interactive demo, why do we need a trailer? Because it's easier to put out a trailer than a demo you can put out a trailer before Your code complete or before you're far enough along in the development process I guess so but does that really like I mean who watches the trailer for a video game really? I mean to do people just randomly go out and watch the 400,000 people watch this thing on YouTube. So let's just take, these 400,000 people. Probably, these are all people who played modern warfare one-dash-one, right?

I'm assuming? One A. Yeah, one A. Well, let me tell you something even crazier than that. The other day, Nathan was saying he saw a Call of Duty modern warfare to trailer on TV Yeah, and I was like I thought wow that's crazy. I thought I was just on the internet Then he came back the next day. He's like oh no, no, I saw it again. It wasn't actually a trailer

It was a commercial saying there was gonna be a trailer during the NBA finals Really and it's had to tune in during the finals to watch a new trailer or new commercial I know this one I didn't see that but I saw the promo the previous day that said there was going to be a commercial that promoted the trailer and I was thinking this looks pretty interesting. I should watch it for that commercial. They want a marketing campaign that's as confusing as the time they need a marketing campaign to hike the marketing campaign. That's right. Well, it's like I mean you look at movie marketing campaigns right like they do these big things during the Super Bowl for summer movies and they start like really gearing up in January.

But when it boils down to it, it's a seven or $10 decision for people to make. Like I'm gonna go see this movie. But it's all this hype, like they generate tons and tons of marketing. And it works. I mean, yeah, it's only a $7 or $10 decision, but they are competing against, you know, a large number

of other big movies coming out during the summer. Right. And I guess this Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 is coming out 1110-9, right, which is, I mean, they might as well say Christmas, you know, because that's a Christmas buying season. And sure, they came up with a cool date, but I mean, that's just basically right before Thanksgiving when people start spending lots of money. But I mean, do people start plotting their $60 purchase this far in advance, you know, or is it just...

Well, it's so kids can start dropping the hints to their parents. Right. And it's funny because they do it with franchisees more, right? Like, modern warfare 2 will get a lot more marketing than new game than say, like, prototype. Sure. Well, because they know how much it sold already. Right. But then, doesn't the game itself then have momentum, right? I mean, doesn't it have like I'm gonna buy the next Halo game. I'm gonna buy the next Call of Duty game, you know, if they came out with wow too, would they advertise the shit out of that? Well, they advertise the shit out of

wow still. They do. Right. I guess there's just, you know, keeping the ball rolling, right? Is a big part of it. But like, there's new games that come out that have the potential to become a franchise. You think there'd be more money invested in like trying to get these things off the ground. I wonder how much of it also is established brands buying the ad time and the ad space to freeze out the competition. Not so much, you know, to promote themselves, but to keep the competition from pulling their games. We've certainly heard of that happening. Interesting. That's a good point. That's a good point.

But like when I think about like movie trailers, right? I can recall very easily some of the best movie trailers I've ever seen. Like what's the best movie trailer you've ever seen, guys? Oh man. How about you, Matt? I got two. We're always stick out to me. Yeah.

Raging Bull. Okay. It's a great trailer. If you've never seen it, you can see it on the, I you can see it on the raging bull DVD. I think it's on there and Cliffhanger which was an incredible trailer for a terrible movie more one of most memorable trailers was the Star Wars episode one trailer where all the Gunkins come out of the mist at the beginning. I love that at the time. Do you know I still think that trailer made Adam Sandler's career because that trailer was in front of Waterboy and Waterboy had a

$40 million opening. However, it was also in front of Wing Commander. Wing Commander. Oh, you did not do so well. Yeah, one good open. And I'm pretty sure Wing Commander, they was, Wing Commander came out before Waterboy. Yeah, but there was a huge Freddie Prince junior saturator. I don't know if you remember this Also, if you're lilyard was he in it? I don't know if you remember this about trailer also, but Like you could watch it on the Apple website, you know I do I do but if you wanted to watch the high-res one you had to have quick time pro Yeah, I think they remember that pay 30 bucks basically to watch a commercial right, you know

We just go on to you like this Terminator machine mother's out. You have to pay to watch a commercial right, you know, we just go on to like this terminator machine of that's out you have to pay to watch that but isn't that basically just like a promotional thing? You have to pay to watch that yeah. It's a three bucks an episode. No way. It turns out basically more than the movie. There's a lot of there's a lot of promotional stuff out there right now that's for money that's people they want you to pay to watch or consume. Like those Star Trek comics that were on the iPhone which were pretty good, but those were like a buck each of those five bucks by the time you finished it's like let's go see the movie again you know. It's crazy. I certainly didn't last as long as you know the movie but. Do you know you know that people say sometimes that go into the movies the best part of going to the movies is the trailers you know I heard that. Yeah some people really like them. That adage before I wonder you know I've heard in other countries like in European countries in the like the when they list the movie times

They list like the movie starts at 715 and the trailers start at 7 You know, so if you want to skip the trailers you just you know You know when the movie actually starts you just go right to it But I wonder if at some point it'd be like do you want to see just the movie? You know it's eight dollars. Do you want to see the movie and all the stuff that comes before it? It's going to be $9.50. I had a... No kidding.

I had a very different experience when I was living in Puerto Rico. Like, you gave the example of, you know, Trailer Start 7, Movie Starts at 7.15. In Puerto Rico, like, let's say the movie time was 7 o'clock. And you want to get there a little early. You show up at 6.45, you want to buy your ticket. They're like, no, no, movie doesn't start till 7. Like, yeah, I don't want to buy my ticket. No, ticket no no no movie starts at seven. That's when we start selling tickets

Really? Yeah, and then so you buy your ticket at when the movie time starts Then you go in and you wait for like another fucking half hour and then they start when they just start whenever yeah Whenever they feel like you know that this is not we're on the the thing before The movie comes up. I say you said this Pixar up movie to come out yep What I'm most excited about going to see this movie is Did see the short film that comes before it because you know Pixar always releases those short films and they're always great The last the one I ended with the I've seen oh you've seen the short film. I've seen the short film. It's called Well presto was the last one. Yeah, right. I don't want to I don't want to you know color your opinion of it or anything like that

What was your favorite short film before Pixar movie? Gosh, I don't know. I mean they've all been so good. I can tell you my least favorite one. I think was the alien Sequence one where the the abduction and I can't remember. Oh, yeah, the farm. Maybe that was right. It's too. No, no, it was before that. I think I Yeah, I thought right. I thought right. It's you know I thought right. It's you was the was presto, but I'm not positive. No, no rest presto was Wally. Yeah, presto was Wally You're right anyway presto was the one with the magician that was previously my favorite this new one is my favorite one really I really I really like this one man doubt this the presto is so good and

The one what's the one with the the musicians? Where the the one man band one man band. I think that's cars with the the one man band one man band I think that's cars you know I think that was love that one they would watch that over and over again yeah yeah and the short films on on the pit on the Pixar DVDs are really good too like the the Jack Jacks extra stuff oh right yeah for Incredibles oh yeah forgot about that yeah Incredibles was great too but up up great you've seen all about I've seen the whole thing when we saw the short film. When did you get to see this?

About a month ago. I got to see it. A screening at the Alamo. It was one of those eight of cool ones that we go to. That's awesome. And see, those things are kind of rough too, because when we go to these advanced screenings for stuff, and the eight of cool crew usually gets us into those and once again, just so we get our free tickets. I was able to appreciate that.

It was a riding, it was a ride. But the, you have to show up for those things sometimes like get to send those and once again just so we can our free tickets. I appreciate that. Maserati Maserati. But you have to show up for those things sometimes like an hour in advance. And the people who were in that group of people who do that, they're totally cool with that. But man, I can't show up an hour in advance for any. It's really hard for me to show up. But it is fun. You know what I mean?

It's like it does tend to be the same group of people that go to these screenings. But up was great up has the same Quality of every other picture movie just like unbelievable like you forget you're watching animation after while But it also does that thing where it's got that dark moment in it and so if you're gonna take it If you're gonna take any kids to see it, I mean you got to be ready for this and up has probably the darkest stuff And it's like right out of the gate. yeah. It's right out of the gate. So that's the only thing I'd say, I'll say it, but I don't want to ruin it for you.

You should definitely see it. It's set in like a future like dystopian kind of place and the guy does not get it so security check. Is that the opening scene? The old man, that's in it, is actually a 15 year old kid with a disease. He just looks old, So it's really depressing. The short is really great. Because it's like, it's the kind of thing where

Presto is something you're used to, right? And it's just executed really well, right? Like that whole teleportation gang. And if they just do it over and over again, and it's just, it's awesome. The one thing I find weird about this particular Pixar movie going into it is it seems like Pixar has had a really good thing going where their main character with a few exceptions on the edges like Ratatouille, the main character is really the rat, but there was also the bad cook character who is a human, right? Most parts they don't do humans as the main character.

It's usually a toy or a car or a rat or whatever. It's something that's not, you know, human. I find it kind of weird. It's like it's two human characters in this one, right? Well, Incredibles was all humans. I guess, but that's so, it was, I mean, it was so stylized and so about the superhero world that kind of, it kind of felt different. That's a good example. This one is most definitely about people. But this one's just like normal, everyday average people kind of a thing. And a a good accept. This one is most definitely about people. But this one's just like normal everyday average people kind of. And the dog they can talk through some invention for what I can gather. Oh, is that right?

It's got like some collar that. That's in the trailer. That's in the trailer. And it's in the trailer. All I've seen is like, like the two say, I saw the commercial promo for the promo for the trailer for the commercial. That's what I saw in the magazine that I read. That was about commercial trailers.

Well, this is, I mean, I think it's really great. And it's like I was saying on that short, it's called Partly Cloudy. I believe, I think I'm getting it right. And it's just, it's one of these really like fantastical things that you couldn't make a whole feature about it, but in a short film, they just bam. Expected it really well. Although, who knows? I mean seems to be to be able to develop crazy stuff in the features I wouldn't think a guy taking his house up and balloons could become a feature did you see it in 3d? No, no Nissy, I saw aliens versus monsters or monsters versus aliens. I saw that early two and I didn't get to see in 3d Do you think that which I liked I liked monsters versus aliens? Do you think when people hear the the name Pixar?

Like it's a Pixar movie that that people Distinguished that from the other Animated movies that come out like monsters versus aliens. Absolutely. I don't know my wife has a hard time String telling them apart really I think people do and if not they will it's like Disney versus like Don blue stuff I mean, you know people people will figure it out. You were talking about Monster first aliens a second ago and I had to look this up. I knew Monster first aliens was the highest grossing movie so far this year. Yeah. It just got passed by Star Trek. It's so funny because I was just about to say. I was just about

to say that you think people can't differentiate between like production companies and things like that. But people now are like, they know the box office tallies, you know? And like, wow, you hear random people in the street going, did you hear the Wolverine dropped off 85%? I said, what the fuck are these people talking about? Everyone's got a subscription to variety now. Exactly right, you know? Thanks, I don't know.

It's people are interested in it, you know? And I think, you know, especially with movies and things like that, people develop fan bases. I don't think that, I don't think that the studio system really even quite understands it. They just knew they'd do well. Like, who knew Wolverine was going to do that well? Wolverine was a huge cult comic hero, right? And this is because they virtue of the fact

they had three X-Men movies out, people just carried right over into Wolverine. And tons of people went and saw Wolverine. It wasn't just comic book fans or whatever. And then they'll put out something like, I don't know, like some other comic book movie and it just like, you know, day like the whole like in city You know to mean since it's like well friends one of those perfect combinations of You know having an actor people like and having him in the role that people want to see him in you know, yeah I mean like there's a lot of great

comic book heroes that don't necessarily get their full impact on screen. Because it's like, do you really want to see Thomas Jane play Punisher? Yes. I mean, it's not really what you're looking for. You're looking for. I want to see John Lithgow. He's going to be a Missile Plaker, whatever from Superman. He was a great Missile Plaker. Mr. and Mr. and weird. It was weird.

Some open up a little bit here. I got to start with my wife for not finding Hugh Jackman attractive. What do you think that means? It's like, he was on the cover of some magazine. And I was like, I said, you must be really happy when a Hugh Jackman movie comes out because he's on the cover of every magazine. She goes, ah, he's not my type. And it's like, I kind of took that as a weird offense because I'm married to this woman.

You know, and it's like, what are you she trying to say? She has some kind of weird, like, she doesn't like what's universally accepted as like a good looking dude. Well, it seems like. Let me tell you some of the dude. I'm more into guys like you. Let me tell you some of the dudes my wife likes. Steve Buscemi, Vinicio del Toro.

I'm in horrible confidence. You know, it's like, I tell her every so often, I'm like, I'm glad you have such horrible tasting man. Otherwise, there's no way I'd ever have had a shot. I like the turtles from Super Mario. But you know, you can get really like, like even with these movies that come out like comic book movies or Wolverine or whatever, living on

the internet and interacting with the majority of the people I interact with on the internet, you can really start to get in this bubble of what's popular and what's not. Like snakes on the plane is going to be the biggest movie of all time. Yeah, or watchman was going to be like a watershed moment in cinema, right? Yeah. You know, and it's just like then it's like, oh, it's not the case.

And you can see this happen all the time. Like the internet's going crazy. Like we got to save dollhouse or we got to save Serr Connor Chronicles and it's just like why is it that every season a Popular show on the internet is being canceled on television. Why is that get the hint if you cancel for a reason? Yeah, it's because people aren't you know, I mean what is that? It's just the audience just really isn't there or the internet people aren't watching shows on television It's because the internet people are pirating the shows. You need a big part of it?

A bit tourney and the ratings aren't there. I mean, what else can it be? Well, that's interesting. That's interesting. There's no monetary support. We talk about this all the time. Or it's just a smaller portion of the general populace. People who watch, you know,

house don't get on the internet. They don't go talk about how awesome house was. It's like, did you see this week? It's just like last week. And it was just like the week before. It wasn't Lucas again. I'm still happy American idols over. Because all my TV that I watch, I watch.

I'm voting controversy. That's serious stuff, man. Come on. What are you talking about? Come on, I'm really, come on. We gotta do something about this. Come on, internet called arms. Come on, voting controversy.

Because Adam Lambert did it? No, apparently there's a story going around Let this come on internet called arms come on voting controversy. Adam Lambert. I didn't know Apparently there's a story going around that What's the other guy's name Chris Allen that at some Chris Allen watch party AT&T reps showed up with like store phones and showed people how to power text and send like 10 texts at once Using phones from the 18. That doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense at all Also the whole thing for it. Come on.

It's a show where they generate a pop star. Who cares? Yeah, who cares? I mean, it's not like winning American Idol. You don't get money for it. They still both make an album. You can't tell me you're not excited about the next Rubin Stuttered album.

How sporty. I had a Taylor Hicks joke lined up. And you're undercut me with that Rubin Stuttered. Who's the chick you never heard of? Contessa who is the no Felicia or Fantasia Yeah, I mean it doesn't matter if they're they're also gonna make an album. Yeah

I mean Jennifer Hudson got kicked out like halfway through the show. She's one of Grammy and a Oscar I mean so the uh so we're going into the summer and there's gonna be nothing on TV basically. Yeah Not much and but although you know what is gonna be on TV that's I find it really strange is this whole J Leno moving from Late night to prime time. It's bullshit. What's it pretty? It's a pretty interesting departure for the network. Don't you think? No, I'm not saying it's good or bad. I'm just saying it's an interesting departure that they're getting rid of You know the mainstay, you know third hour slot of dramatic programming in favor of right They're getting more just narrative content for more talking exactly exactly. It's gonna be Variety in in prime time and that doesn't work. What do you mean?

That's a good way to show and that doesn't work. What do you mean? That's a good point. Like a variety of things he's showing. Oh, that's a good point. And that doesn't work at all. Yeah. Well, it hasn't traditionally. I think it's weird too, that something is really, even weirder to me than Jay Leno being in that slot is Conan O'Brien being the host that's in the night show. I don't know why that's so strange to me. Other than like, when Conan O'Brien first came on,

he seemed like he was more like you know counter culture like weird or humor The Simpsons and the sound of life stuff he had done and like all that cool Amy Polar stuff that they used to do and just like it was weird They had a lot of weird stuff on there like masturbating bear and I'm glad you brought it up You know all that stuff was like really funny. Is there Walker Texas Ranger stuff? Yeah, I mean that stuff was great And they're not I don't think they're gonna be able to do that. No, but David Letterman with David Letterman threw stuff off a five-story building and when he went over to CBS He didn't do that stuff. I mean well letterman would get a bowl of cereal. I guess that's true Letterman never seemed like he had to quite the the same Weird edge that Conan had he was pretty weird though. He really was I Letterman had, Letterman had Andy Kaufman and wrestlers on.

How old are you? I mean, what's amazing to me is that Conan O'Brien could make that transition from late night with Conan O'Brien to getting the tonight show, which is, I mean, that's like, that's a Hollywood institution. It is. And Letterman couldn't make that move, you know? And Conan O'Brien could, like Conan O'Brien to me still doesn't seem like a real talk show host. He's not an interviewer, he's just like,

a guy who's a funny at parties and he has some funny stuff. You know who's a guy who's not a good interviewer and who is not funny at parties? Jimmy Fallon. Well Jimmy Fallon though seems to me to be the same level as Conan O'Brien, you know? The same type of guy. No, like Jimmy Fallon taking over Conan's show,

he immediately seems at the same level as Conan to me, even though Conan did it for 11 years, 12 years? Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah. And then there's like the guy who's after them, like Carson Daly or whoever's after them. Craig Ferguson does like a 30 minute monologue every day. 30 minutes?

Yeah, it just goes forever. Is he speaking to a Scottish accent? Yeah, he's awesome. He's awesome. Like that's a dude you would love to like show it a party. He would just take over the entire party, talk for an hour and a half straight leave and you'd be like what the fuck just happened here? It wouldn't be anybody else less than the party though. No, that would have left 15 minutes in the evening. He's entertaining. I haven't seen any Jimmy Fallon, so I can't talk about it. Yeah, it's rough. The only thing I remember about Jimmy Fallon really was that he ruined every sketch He was in on his last season of Saturday life, especially if he would eat this. Yeah with the last thing. Well, I almost did that now

He came now with his talk show. He can look straight into the camera and not ruin anything with it SNL those is two things. He'd always look straight into the camera Good good thing that they don't have a picture of Horatio Sands face behind the teleprompter. I think that was what did it to him every time he would look over Horatio Sands and just he couldn't give it together. And Jimmy Fallon's show could catch on fire, explode, fall into the ocean and get eaten by a shark and it still wouldn't be as dramatic as a decline as Amy Polar going from Saturn alive to that fucking horrible show on NBC. And she's like there's I don't know who's in twos running that thing, but they're taking other people down with them like the dude from human giant Aziz. It's just like they need to they need to just yank that

show or I don't know do something with it. They'll be that'll probably one of those shows where they completely redo it in the second season. Like it doesn't even look like the same show anymore. They do that occasionally. Like, didn't they do that with that Joey show? They like, they think so, yeah. Like he, didn't he get like a girlfriend or something like that, they never before?

Yeah, they like retool the show completely. Like suddenly he's an astronaut. And it's like, well, he wasn't astronaut the first season. It's like, you know, this is Joey. It's got to happen organically. An acting job is an astronaut. Therefore he is an astronaut. And then NASA thought he was a real astronaut. He did such a job and mixing you know he's in space. Holy shit. We just wrote a new sitcom. This is a bad I said come we can we sell this right now? No, we we've copyright this stop taking it internet.

Star recording. Gus and I are being ridiculed for just these bald faces we have now after the saving face video that we made. Well, we were talking about the, you know, Jimmy Fallon cracking up and I was telling him a way of last night about the scene that we shot. The one shot. I had to actually leave the room. The line that Bernie does with the mustache. Where he says, I think I do work at an auto plan. I don't think so. When he said that, I like, I ruined how many takes. You probably were like four or five takes. And it was like, we were shooting backwards. So it was like one of the last things we were shooting. And it was hot. And because we had

the term of the air conditioner and stuff and more in Texas. I still don't believe we have to turn off the air conditioner, by the the way. Well listen to the other one that we shot that we're throwing out the audio for but The like we're doing that line and it's something about it like one to burning out to the part where he like does the little smirk and I brought up Move with the mustache. It was like I couldn't I couldn't stop laughing every time I've been every take and but I look at the Outtakes of it and after every take is like burning doing a great job And it gets the end and his eyes like go above the camera to me You're looking to be going. What else matters to you? And then I'm just like your footsteps and I did you want to be using the first take?

No, I used the one where I was out of the room. Oh really? Yeah The I think I ruined a few takes on Captain dynamic when Ed was doing his you I Captain slippery and captain whatever I had to it was funny You wouldn't even be in the room been like we'd get to that point you'd walk in just to hear like it's a captain slippery And he burst out laughing. You need to walk out and everyone would be like what the fuck? It was funny And again time what else do we need to talk about guys? We're running this we should probably wrap up here pretty soon

No anyone got any any last things I want to talk about? Gus, you're running this. We should probably wrap up here pretty soon. Oh. Anyone got any last things I want to talk about? We have a play date for Halo Wars on Friday night, depending on when this podcast comes out. Tonight is Friday night the 29th. Mm-hmm. Hopefully the podcast will be up before then. Hopefully so. And then we have some other stuff we're working on now.

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Website talks about it in terms of counter programming like it's this thing you do like if there's a if there's a kitty movie coming out obviously you release a horror movie against it so if uh... drag me to hell and uh... lift drag me to hell is the horror movie this week and up is the children's movie this week what porno is coming up this week all right well uh... we gotta go thanks for listening everyone thank you for joining us i you know i won't be here every week because I am a special guest star, but I did appreciate the Wait, I didn't give me a pause or anything

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