Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #80

Episode Date: September 22, 2010

The Red vs Blue Revelation production team (Burnie, Matt, Monty and Kerry) host this weeks Rooster Teeth. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie, comes a new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-octane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnet, and Thomas Hayden Church,

twisted metal, streaming now now only on peacock This is pretty good. Hey, I am General Hans. Gustav Rolman, Joe Hamin. Hey everyone, welcome to the RISC truck, the truck, the truck, the truck, the truck. Welcome to the RISC truck tank. Thanks, truck. That song is better every time I hear it and I've heard it so many times now, it's like the best song ever. This is the tech trouble shooting episode of the Joint Tank. This is our third time or third time start matter, fourth time a start.

I've lost count. I'm going to, I'm going to, you know what, let's start again right now. Can we hear the song again? And then we'll just, we'll just rack it up. So I feel like we get points every time we start. Wow, that song was great. Hey, do you know who set that song in? Griffin?

No, it's actually deleted. No, it was actually deleted. Actually. All right, well, hello everyone. Actually. All right. Well, hello, everyone. This is Bernie Burns. This is Matt Hallum again. Monty.

We have Monty Ome on the podcast. And we have Kerry. We have our new young employee not in turn. What's up? Kerry. Kerry, how are you doing? I'm doing all right. How are you doing?

Now, Monty, you've been on the podcast before, right? Yes, I have. But Kerry, you have never'm on the podcast before, right? Yes I have. But, uh, Kerry, you have never been on the podcast. I've never been on the podcast. Well, welcome. Long time, listen, the first time, Colin. A lot of them are juicers. He had a lot of time to come up with that joke

because we had a style of technical to look at there. He's been working on the material. He's been on the road in the room. No, Jeff was building Kerry up for a while on what has performance is going to be in the podcast today. So, Kerry, you've brought a break out some zingers. I think we're going to need him. Yeah, big shoes.

Gus and Jeff could not be here today because Gus is on vacation, is that right? Yes, and he took the instructions for how to record the podcast with him on vacation apparently. Apparently, transcribed him to Sanskrit. It's, you know, this is the part of the podcast when we make fun of the people who aren't here. Aren't here in the podcast. Well, how we're, we're the ones keeping the company together, while everyone in office is apparently doing nothing. It's so true. That's what Jeff Augusto is doing when we're doing. The ironic thing is that that Monty and I are here,

when usually not on the podcast, usually while you guys are recording the podcast, Monty and I are talking about how we do all the work and all you guys do is record the podcast exactly So then sit in the back room and go fall constantly. That's right. Good. Fall That's right. I got a source. How you doing money? Yo, what's up? Now last time money was on the podcast money We had to edit a lot of this stuff out because money said there until this we're not funny and our jokes aren't good So money money is ready for he has called cup coffee in his hand and he's ready for the time. I have a glass of coffee.

You do have a glass of coffee. I drank a whole glass of coffee. How do you do that? You pour coffee in a glass. Well, that's scientifically accurate, but it's hoping for more elaborate description. For the record, it was full when we started. Yeah, that's right. Which is Monty interacts in unusual ways with seemingly normal

Objects around the office. He's the only one who has a like a special conspiracy theory about the paper towel For instance, he'd go in a glass instead of a mug And he's and he has a a system for getting extra paper towels that involves lasers and no no no I swear that, no, no. I swear that paper towel dispenser did not want to give me two in a row. Let me show you what we're talking about. We have, we're at the new office. And at the old office, we didn't have a paper towel dispenser. We had, we had one old towel with about eight billion germs. That thing was kind of skanky. They had like a hand towel that we would use. And then we would have a roll of paper towel that would sit there sometimes and we would use that. And the worst with a roll of paper towel because it always has that wet edge on the top

from whoever had it before like had their hands wet and they grabbed the top of it to take off the next paper towel. So it's all like wet and just nasty at the top. But it was unpleasant. Brandon was walking through the office with a shopping wet full roll of paper towels. It looked like he dunked it in a bucket of water. And he's like carrying it delicately, like trying to get it to the trash before a drips of it. And I go, what is that?

Where did you get that? He goes, nothing to worry about. Don't worry about it. It looked like he was like fixing a leak or something with it. So I was very concerned about the new office. It turns out he said no No, it was just in the sink and I turned on the sink and I didn't see the paper towels from the sink If you have full roll of paper towels in the sink, how can you not see that before you turn on brand? Easily distracted. It's a pretty deep sink

Brands usually doing like 30 things at once, that's why. That's true. It's 15 of those 30 things are redoing previous things to be distracted. That was one small thing, right? How many IKEA cabinets do we have that are have put together at this point? We only have one.

And it has, in the final, one of the doors, like stuck into the door. I saw him with a saw earlier, and I'm pretty sure you don't need a saw for Ikea cabinets. I'm not sure what's going on with that. I think everyone in their life has to go through that experience where you get an Ikea cabinet or something and you put it together and you put it together so wrong. But you're just going to live with it and you know how it's wrong or you get halfway done with it. Oh, I missed this step. Five pages back.

So now I have to dismantle the whole thing somehow it. Oh, I missed this step. Five pages back. So now I have this man's whole thing. Somehow Brandon puts together an IKEA cabinet like an Escher drawing. Well, there's like a drawer that doesn't go anywhere like you take it out and somehow the drawer is connected to another drawer that has its own handle that just goes into space. It's like inception with IKEA. Brandon thinks it's Swedish people just have half-filled furniture. It's like inception with IKEA. We've brought in things that Swedish people just have half-filled furniture. It's their aesthetic. But he's ordered new stuff.

And we have a choice whenever we go to IKEA. The IKEA in Austin is actually in Roundbrock. So it's either get in the car for an hour or wait six weeks for delivery. Austin's a really weird town with the suburbs or the exerbs or whatever you would call. Don't most wear that No, I just mean like the way it's laid out where like we're in Austin now But if you go one further exit south and we're only like I'm like five miles from downtown If that it yeah, it will on the south side and you go one more exit south. You're out of Austin They're your country on the north side. you can go like like 30 miles from still being

Austin it's ridiculous. Yeah, it's like totally lopsided town. If you look at Austin on Google Maps it's like the city and then just south of his all green country and then north of it is just like concrete suburban and landscape. Then we go south to go to that barbecue tour. The barbecue tour. Yeah, I think we should go out to lock out.

And he gets sick. you get sick at that's no he's coughing says Now we took we went down to lock heart Texas He's got barbecue long I think we talked about it before but you know being from Texas We take great pride in our barbecue and I think everyone pretty much agrees that if you want really good at barbecue You have to go about 40 miles outside of Austin and go to Lockhart, Texas. That's correct. I don't think we mentioned it yet.

The whole George Foreman thing. Oh, that was a bizarre story. Yeah, it was a strange story, wasn't it? So Brandon has been on this big kick where he's going to become Brandon 2.0. And I don't know how he's going to lose weight. He's such a skinny guy to begin with. But he's been... Oh, I thought he was going to install electronics in his body. I didn't know.

He's got a great self. I wouldn't say Brandon's that skinny. Yeah. Oh no. Okay. So we're not funny Brandon's fat. So the big thing is that with Brandon he's that he has been annoying the hell out of me particularly in the office because he won't stop talking about his George Foreman grill. And he's in won't stop talking about his George Foreman grill I mean yet in his apartment he got the George Foreman grill apparently have you have you heard of the George Foreman grill? Yeah, they're not they're not get they don't get much you know widespread recognition Not many people know about him a very small market and campaign this George Foreman grill I had to look it up on Wikipedia. They barely they've sold about 20 billion

No, but yeah, you get didn't you give me a George woman grill for a wedding gift? Did I like like 10 years ago? That sounds awesome. Like it was a George woman skillet. I wouldn't have done that. No, you're wedding. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Twitter is really a skillet. A grill maybe was a like a grill. I'm not a fan. They're just You know, I see this is the thing like as we work with younger one you putators in the other Like money and Brandon. We're constantly having discussions that are weird discussions about you know I'm only like six years younger than you and six years older than Brandon But you're a very focused person for your age like you have you have had your experience Like for instance, I came in here. We bought money a laptop when you first start working here And I

noticed that he has torn completely torn off the cover of the laptop, the keyboard. And I said, Monia, what happened to your laptop? Because I mean, I can see like circuitry through the front of his laptop. And he said, Oh, there was a switch on there that I didn't like. You know, they ripped off those like volume control, and it's got controls the wireless is one of those touch those touch pads got controls the wireless is one of those touch those touch pads Where controls the wireless and like the base and like it has the play and the forward button and stuff

Well, I don't know some wires got cross and it constantly flips on my my wireless network So I just ripped it off. I don't know what to work in so how did you rip it off your laptop? Did you just like grab it and rage? I mean what offer was this calculate wasn't that easy? I cut my nails that day, so I had to get a screwdriver. And I just, you know, a jammed screwdriver under the keyboard and I just had to pull it out. And it was actually surprisingly easy.

It just, it came off really well. But I just had to add the tape down the, the connector because I didn't want to get like like electrocute or anything because it still plugged in at the time. But he does, he has like one of those circuitry ribbons taped down with that. That's what I like about Monti He's a most direct solution most direct path to the solution but kind of guy like my thought would have been like oh man

I got it like go online and research this and figure out the software patch for this or whatever lunches like no Fair players take care of it. I would have did it months ago But every time I ask us about it. He's like don't worry. We'll take care of it We'll call them up and get someone, some technician sent out, you know, don't void the warranty. I'm like, Oh, Jesus. And then, you know, it was a day when Gus wasn't around. I just made sure I was there.

But a screwdriver was. So, but yeah, I'm not sure what happened with Gus. See, my solution would have been you would have gone on internet. Mine would have been, I'm going to make a note of this so I can complain about it on the podcast. Mine is just complain about things endlessly until somebody else fixes them. That doesn't work out for the George Foreman Grill, which is a great product. So Brandon's aggravating me about this George Foreman Grill. And more on topic of cooking things and stuff our guys don't know, apparently.

Brain in the other day wanted a timer. Because what was he cooking? He was cooking today. He brought his George Foreman grill in. He bought a new one for the office. And he brought a steak in and a bunch of other shit. I cooked a steak on a George Foreman grill. And he's like, I need a timer.

Let me run the microwave on empty for three minutes. And Bernie heard he's like, oh, what were you, you microwave the steak? He's like, no, I just turned on the microwave so to have a timer. And both Bernie and I were like, oh, what were you? You microwave the state? He's like, no, I just turned on the microwaves to have a timer. And both Bernie and I were like, what the fuck are you doing? You cannot run a microwave on empty. Did it not explode in your face?

He'd never heard that before. Brandon also thinks that bread has no calories. Brandon is exactly the kind of guy you're hoping does not have the ability to edit what Wikipedia articles. We make a blog like stuff. Bren is discovering everybody already knows a bread has calories. Bren is not the easiest to eat. You can't run a microwave nothing in it.

A black widow spider is poisonous. You know the black widow's are poisonous. Never heard that before ever. That's a bad one to find out the hard way. I'll keep I'll keep a blog of them but anyway, so we go to that we go to lock heart and George our brand name is bragging about is George forming grill endlessly and So we're eating this food and I said I made the joke to Brandon while we're eating this barbecue

It was deliciously good. I said I bet they cooked it on a George form and grill and he's like, ah very funny And then I walked out to get more food to send back for you guys at the office. Matt you didn't come down. I didn't get to come down but I did enjoy the leftovers. Thank you very much. And I'm a shitty boss one thing I like to do is feed employees. That's my favorite thing to do is make sure they have a food. Basically so they don't leave the office for any reason whatsoever. But so I walk up there to get the extra food and I had this George Foreman grill joke in my mind as I'm up there and I'm up at the front counter And I look at the front counter. I go you gotta be fucking kidding me

I could not believe the luck of this so I walk back to Brandon. I said Brandon. I said they cooked all their food on George Foreman grill I said you're not gonna believe it. They actually do have a George Foreman up there and he goes what? He's no way I gotta see this we walk up to the front of the restaurant and it's George Foreman standing there. He had just happened to come to the restaurant that day in the middle of nowhere, Texas. Like it's a weird setup of all time. The look on Brandon's face is I thought he thought

that I flew in George Foreman to this hotel. What are the chances of that happening? That the guy you're talking about walks into the place. It's pretty ridiculous. Did you find out what George Foreman had to eat? No, I didn't. I didn't because God bless the guy. He couldn't make it five feet without picture.

I mean, literally like, five feet might be an overestimation. I mean, he might have gone five inches at a time before. Like, hey, champ, you know, everybody calls him champ and wants to take a picture with him. If you're, by the way, if you're, is boxing considered an American sport? Not really, right? That's one of the more international sports. Yeah, it is.

Well, who was Linux Lewis? Was that the, uh, the UK guy was that was a major. Was a, I think he was a trillion or English. Yeah, I'm going to look that up now. But, uh, yeah, George Foreman was a, you need Jeff in here to tell us. George Foreman was a champ in back in the Muhammad Ali days. And then he came back in his 40s. And this is like the early 90s, right?

That's right. And he he started fighting again, but it wasn't fear when he came back because he was just hitting people with the grills. And I thought they should have outlawed about unboxing, but apparently, yeah, and then it's all his opponents have grill marks on their faces. It's really bad. But they have a little pan underneath them to catch all the fact. So let me look at really good cut man. All those guys. But uh he yeah he was a he was a I

think a two time champion. I don't know my boxing that well, but he uh then got his name and face put on these grills that their electric grills that people put in an apartment so that you can have a quarter, quarter, a grill. And no offense, they're super shitty. They're like one of those TV products. I mean, it's a terrible thing to have in your house. Man, I was working on the sponsorship this whole time and you're just coming and killing it. Yeah, that was going to be our first junk tank. That's your podcast sponsor. And I ruined it. But he, but he, he made more money from those grills than anything else in his life.

And he didn't design that, right? I'm not. It was a sign of the grill. Hey, Jeff just walked in. Did George Foreman invent the George Foreman grill or did he just endorse it? You guys needed a boxing expert, and this is what you called me in for?

Yes, exactly. You needed a grilling expert. I always George Foreman champ twice. Did he get- George George Foreman champ twice. George Foreman was champ twice. Was he champion early in his career when he lost it to him, homadali, right? And a tremendous, tremendous fight. Where Muhammad Ali was heavily, heavily, heavily favored to lose.

And he just wore, he'd rubbed it up, then we'll warm down. That was the rumble in the... It wasn't the thrill in the room. It wasn't the thrill in the room. It was something sketchy, Don King, name-killing. Yeah, for sure. And at that time George Rommel was like the scariest dude on the fucking planet. And who just left? Mine left. Oh, okay. And he hates boxing. Couldn't handle it. Boxing the white people. It's too much for him and one move. He's lost to Muhammad Ali in the rumble in the jungle in 1974. Yeah, and then I think he just put his name on the grill, right? I don't think he was like in the lab.

Look at him. I don't think he was in there. He got his code on and his team of scientists with beakers trying to invent the perfect grease-free grill. We need ten more microns of Teplano on this. Yeah, I'm gonna guess that yeah he probably didn't invent it. Another cool thing about George Foreman is that he named all of his kids six boys, he named them all George Foreman. That's pretty bad. That's almost as good as Chad Ocho Senko. The knee name all of his kids, even the girls, some form of Chad. Like I think the girls are like Chadette and things like that.

I'm not kidding, I think you really didn't. And he's got like 48 kids, too, right? I think so. He's a, he's got Ocho's kids. He's got like 48 kids that he knows about. You know, if we had had a girl, my wife swears she would have named our daughter Bernadette and we would have called her Bernie Instead of giving any of our boys the Bernie name like junior and I thought of a great to have a girl named junior to that have been fun

But we did it would been luckily for this girl. We never had her With that name well my wife wanted to name a kid Jesus so really.? Yeah, yeah, not Jesus. No Jesus straight up Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Yeah, try to name a kid box card Jesus Ramsey So this would be a higher world it would be a boy the entire world intervened So this would be a higher world. It would be a boy the entire world intervened. Boxcar Jesus. Yeah. So you guys don't have a kids you're gonna work it.

It's like a Kerawack poem. Boxcar Jesus. It is. It's a it's a it's actually Alan Ginsburg. Okay, sorry. It's a little too flowery for a Kerawack. I don't know. Why do I have to make a decision right now? No. You know, watch Mad Men and they're at the point now in the history of the real world. Where is this spoiler? They're watching, I don't think so. I mean it's just contextual. It's not really careful. I don't even care if the audience I just care for me. It's the real world stuff so you should know it. Keep in mind that by the way, episodes of seasons one through whatever. Yeah, but not these lost. But it's there at the point where they're watching like we're in the real

world cashless clays becoming Muhammad Ali and then becoming you know champion of the world. So it's interesting to watch that stuff to place. Of course they're in the show. They're not even watching on television. They're listening to it on a radio in a bar and that's how they watch it. What a sad existence it must have been to have been born before today. You're exactly right. Yeah. Did your news from the radio have been born before today. Exactly right. God. Did your news from the radio?

Yeah, no kidding. Or like, what if you only went to the front porch and listen to only listen to certain types of programs? Couldn't actually view them. Yeah, no kidding. Right. Well, that's how you let's not like, I tell like my grandpa listened to baseball games, you know? It's like the fuck it listened to a baseball game.

We're like five guys talking in a room. Oh, yeah, that's it. That would be also bad. You know what's crazy to do with like team-bathlete radio? It's just like when you start listening to someone on the radio and then you finally see the person, a picture of the person, you see them in an interview and you're like, wow, that's what that guy looks like. And it's always like the radio is the thing where you kind of have, you don't have a visual

so you still have your imagination working. Yeah. And we kind of have a book, but books are mostly fictional. But a lot of people got their news back in the day from the radio. Like, I wonder if people like, we had this idea of what Hitler looked like in their head, or if maybe they didn't have TV. Well, the moon land, like, what did they think our astronauts looked like? Do they have big glass globes for helmets, you know?

I think with FDR, right? There's a lot of Americans didn't know he was in a wheelchair in head polio Yeah, what I think the I think the moonlight was a little different because it was nationally televised but yeah like Hitler Luckily we had like cartoons Robot the whole robot Hitler at the end of fucking Wolfenstein Then Wolfenstein 3D back on on their uh, a Vectrol uh, phonographs. But the uh, yeah, but I mean the Moonlightings are bad example because that was, isn't that the most watched TV event in history?

Yeah, that a match right? It probably a more match. Or the evolution of dance I think right? Oh, that was like a YouTube or a girlfriend by uh, that thing has been Averliving completely passed by. Any Justin Bieber video I think is ahead of it. I'm pretty sure the number one watch video on YouTube now is number one Completely passed by. Any Justin Bieber video, I think, is ahead of it. I'm pretty sure the number one watch video on YouTube now is number one. I'm gonna say Justin Bieber.

I think it's Charlie biting the finger. I'm gonna say Justin Bieber. Anybody else, let's vote on this. I'm gonna go with Justin Bieber as well. I have no idea what any of the songs would be. I actually heard Justin Bieber's song the other day. It was pretty good. I think it's got something. I can see why everybody likes them

I can't help but I can't hear you. Yeah, he does. Always gorgeous. Don't get me wrong. My nieces love them Your nieces love Justin Bieber. Yes, that's right. How do you feel about it? They're like 13 14 year old She gets see the video of him running away from his fans on a Segway No, it was pretty big a lot. Yeah, he was like trying to escape his fans on a Segway. No, it was pretty big a while ago. Yeah, he was like trying to escape his fans on a Segway. That's pretty funny. How can you possibly not outrun a Segway, especially for your teenage girl? I don't know. Well, you're so overcome. You've got the vapors, right? It's hard to find the vapors. I don't think that's what the vapors mean. I like Justin Bieber though, because he's like, he's probably the best example of someone going from the internet and becoming a big star. I mean we have lots of people who are already stars that come to

stuff on the internet like you know Will Wheaton was a celebrity outside of the internet but this is a guy who came from the internet. I didn't know I do. I didn't know. I didn't know. YouTube. Yeah. I sure saw his he had like a video that had like two million views. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. I do. Matt, did you see the, she this half-life 2 CG thing that somebody put up on the web? You showed me that yesterday. Did you watch the whole thing? No. No? It was mostly text.

Well, it's a teaser, right? It's like, it's like five or six shots. You know what I get tired of is the people out there who supposedly have a big project that they're gonna put out and just put, you know, they work on like the highlights of it and then just, and then they, they just stop there. I think a lot of that. I think the thing that I don't like is when somebody makes something like this and then people immediately pick it up, even like reputable press agencies pick it up as this is a half-life two movie that's in the works. You remember when that guy made that fall or reach script?

And he made about six concept art paintings which probably he farmed out to an artist friend of his probably took about maybe a week to put those six things in and suddenly there was a halo movie in production. Didn't it all make it all the way to being linked to Spielberg? Yeah, that Steven Spielberger is making a halo movie and it was going to be in theaters in 2011 and it's just I don't know why people do that when they get so fooled when they see something of quality on the internet, they're like, oh, this can't possibly

be an artist making this. This is a production company, and they're working on it. And here it comes. And they reported that way. Right. I actually get that was actually kind of the original perception of my stuff, except that was very forward about it just being my work.

It's like, wait, this doesn't look like something one person could do, yet here it is. I'm looking at it. But there wasn't the assumption. But the problem was that you actually put an entire piece together. Yeah. If you'd only done like two little snippets of five-second animation and then said, like, leaked from, yeah, yeah, X-Studio or whatever, then people would have thought it was.

But so, like, I guess that was the original appeal of my work was like, I put something together, had a legitimate beginning and end, and looked like it had like a production value to it that was more than a single person could handle, which, you know, that's kind of, that, you know, I'll be it, that is kind of rare, but it didn't have that connotation when people were like, oh, this must be something official,

right, which is what this half-life-two thing is, right, you're talking about. I, yeah, I don't know, it's just, I mean, people were, people are like, oh, this must be something official, right? Which is what this half-life, too thing is, right? You're talking about. Yeah, I don't know. It's just, I mean, people were, people are excited about it. And now they're, I'm seeing reports of, there's a half-life CG movie in the works. Which, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if Valve did something like that, but it would be Valve that does it. I mean, from my experience, Valve is not a company that just kind of, you know,

loans her IP out or licenses it in any way. I haven't seen that of you. No, and they've also produced some pretty stellar movies in house, so you would think they would be up to the task of doing it if they wanted to do it. Yeah, I mean, you look at those meet the X-C-X. Yeah, seriously, yeah. They have for their team fortress too. I mean, those are all cool.

Can you watch those at all? No, I haven't seen those. You haven't watched the, are you not a team fortress fan? I have orange rocks for the 360, but I just never, it's the development team making They got a lot of they got a lot of really talented people on that valve team, too They do it seems like I'm meeting more and more people in the video game industry who have come from movies or they just Flop back and forth between the movie industry and the video game industry

Yeah, it's something that it seems like it should have been a thing like a long time ago. You know, going back and forth, but like video games are now almost to the point where it's they are almost the equivalent of, you know, CG animated movie productions. Yeah. So it makes sense now, like, you know, the same technical people and the same artists cost over on those. When I was working on Hollywood 10 years ago, whatever it was, I only had ever worked with one artist in visual effects and movies that also did games. Only one, but I had ever met. And now it seems like there's tons of people who go back and forth. Would you consider us a movie studio? I don't know. That's a good question because we're we're definitely

in between the two and we do something that's that's more like video game companies and less like a movie company. I would say there's more of a movie company because we don't make anything interactive really right we do some things with the online space like different endings without telling people that there's different endings for things and they just click on different links so it's true like where I guess you could say a movie production and I came here from game For games. That's true. Yeah, but you can yeah, yeah, yeah, and you were working on the interactive side You weren't working on the cutscene side. That's right. I was a designer So I then you got then you got into games by making movies. That's right

It's comes full circle Well the one of the big things we do here to the makes it more like a video game company Just as a business is that we actually hire people that work here And then we go from project to project as a business is that we actually hire people that work here and then we go from project to project as a team. Whereas in movie production or what we normally call general production, you hire people up for a job and then all those people go away. And it's over. Yeah. Did you ever work for a company on more than one project? I worked for Warner Brothers on more than one project, but it was more a case of a project opened up, you know,

serendipitously, right at the time when the previous one ended and I jumped over onto it. Yeah. But it wasn't a case where it was like a sure thing like like you're hired in its position that goes on forever. It was definitely a project by project phases. That's actually a little more, that's actually kind of the situation in games It's not as obvious, but in games people tend to assume Well, not really tend to assume, but there's there's you kind of kind of get you see idea that your position isn't quite permanent either Like that just as soon as this game is done because you know how they they kind of build up the staff when a game goes in the crunch The staff kind of just tends to grow to in order to deliver the game. That you kind of like assume that you know you could be moving on just as soon as this game is done. Like moving on, I was supposed to

move it out right. They're gone. I think video games as they grow like you said, I think they're becoming more like movies in that sense and there's a clear line in games where you have contract employees. Right. And they're not full-time employees and they know that. Well the, and they're not full-time employees, and they know that, while the entire time they're working, and unfortunately, from what I've seen, it's like the line seems pretty clear that, you know, there's two different tiers of employee, essentially.

Yeah. And then, you know, some of the guys from contract might come on full-time afterwards, but then the contract guys move on to something else. I just like to say, I'm very happy with our system of keeping people around. Yeah, carry out the tundering revelation production at the end. Well, you know, this podcast was going to be talking about revelation, right? We, we haven't really talked about that much, but carry contribution to revelation. We haven't

had much opportunity to really put out there, but he basically did what would you say, like 80% of the mission of a... Bob, what episode did you come on? I think it was either 5 or 6. So you can see, like, there's a really big scene. You've been here that long. You're declining quality. And then a slow gradual clawing our way back up climb to acceptability towards the end of the season. Yeah, but Carrie and I, I mean, Carrie basically sat with me the entire time and put up with

onto the abuse for me. It was strange that you made him sit in your lap. I don't know why you did that. Hey, you know what I mean? Chairs are expensive. Everybody's got a lap. No, some of us with a lot of fun. I've been carrying back at Pax like two years ago. Yeah. And been keeping the conversation with Kerry on and off for a while. And then he came on as an intern and then higher full time. That's our thing. Our contractors are interns essentially. Cheap labor is great. And then we say, I was under the impression until this podcast. I was still an intern. Well, we have paid interns, so you know, not paid well.

How did you, how did you, uh, how did you meet Bernie originally, Kerry? I, uh, I met Bernie three, uh, why man's at packs, but, uh, I think you're saying a personal ad for first. No, not in crisis. I, uh, I, uh, I just heard about cooker life.com. I'm obsessed with it now. Is that your life? Cooker life.com. Is he an ad for this? No. I just said the firstougarLife.com and I'm obsessed with it now. What? CougarLife.com is eating an ad for this?

No. I just saw the first ad for the last sponsor. I was sure it was a parody. I was sure it was not real. Because it's an ad for a single thing, but for the older women who are generally referred to this food. CougarLife. I thought you said CougarLife. CougarLife? No, that would be as less popular side probably.

But anyway, I did not mean to interrupt you. I know. Well, just to add to that, I've been kind of folding around colleges and at one point my one of my mascots was the cougars. And we had we had a place on campus. What you have? And I just I always felt uncomfortable walking in like I felt going to like walk into a room of like, you know, like some like 40-year-old woman's going to rip your shirt off. Yeah. What's the, we have established it. Carrie looks like Justin Bieber after all.

What is the age range for a cougar? I don't know. What is the age range for a cougar? I don't know the age range. I'm at different classifications. I want to say like, like, older 30s to like older 40s. You're something like that. You're something that kind of creeps me out.

And you don't have to talk about your home life if you don't want to. But my wife, as we've, we've been married now 10 years, my wife and I, I've noticed it like our outside interest, like people we find attractive, are starting to skew. Like, I like people that are about my age, that I find attractive, like, say, oh, Courtney Cox and Jennifer Ancestor are older than me, but, you know, like, that, those kind of women.

My wife likes, like, the Twilight guy, like, she's staying at the 20-year-old range, you know, she's staying there. Is it, which team? Is it the, uh, the Weir Wolf guy or the, uh, the, uh, zombie? I think she likes zombie. She, I like, she likes the zombie guy The she sees the brooding like emo one right it seems to be yeah, not the buff

If I want to throw my house acting like that guy she would kick my ass out of there in about 10 seconds How did how did this try to move you made honestly? How did this get me? I mean how did you pick if you pitched this to somebody they would think you were Retarded basically right it's like oh oh no it's cool because the vampire and chick they fall in love but there is a twist. There's a way of all. Like what's that? No! No! That's just like something like a fifth grader would write. I mean am I crazy? But are you a big Harry Potter fan? How can you possibly be upset about Twilight if you're such a big Harry Potter fan? Okay you got me there. Right you if you're such a big Harry Potter fan? Okay, you got me there Right, I mean it's like well

Here's my defense of my defensive Harry Potter is that it's it's an entire magic universe and this was just like it was the way that they said I've had to see twilight Because I'm married so that's what you have to do when you're married Like they set it up as like a vampire thing and then it's like oh the big twist at the end is there's a there's a We're Wolf here too. Yeah, okay, but it's like Harry Potter. It's an entire world. It's not like oh and by the way, you know it's magic. You know, it's like you go into it like set you're an accept like this is the universe or you're not gonna accept that. But the the Twilight thing was there's a world with vampires. Oh, and by the way, all sides were all. I'm afraid that they threw an alien at the end where people just go, I don't know, she

got cool aliens. Yeah, let's throw those in too. Maybe she's going to have, you know, I think if it had aliens, I might watch. We bought from Planet X. Don't they throw in random stuff when the Harry Potter, like the the flying Griffin things and the what's the quidditch? I think I think I think that's point is it's a larger world that larger world more consistent with itself exactly But they have the regular world he's he lives in a house with And they draw very certain lines between the two so it's like you go into them. Well, you like to order the rings right? Oh, yeah, this is the Harry Potter or the ring basically the same things. To me in terms of they established a world and then they stick to the rules of the world. Not all the same thing. Twilight

was like, you know, they could, I mean what else could they throw in? Frankenstein walked out. They would just go, yeah, sure, Frankenstein, what the hell not. I mean she's probably going to be dating a mummy in the next world. Twilight had one rule. It was no choice. It was no choice. me in the next one. Twilight had one rule, it was no tricks. She's gonna be a cougar. Hey, Bella, let's go away in vacation. I got a cabin of the black lagoon. Nothing can happen to us up there. They're gonna ride the Loch Ness Monster in the sunset. See that's the world they should establish. They're just in the world where all the monsters exist. That's it. I'd rather shoot that movie. Every single monster.

Yeah, I don't know. It just seems like stuff goes in cycles to me where certain things are big. Like space gets big for a while. And then vampires get big for a while or monsters scare me. It's like, we saw a revival of like in the 80s, there were all those slasher films that were really disgusting Yeah, and then those kind of came back earlier in the 2000s. They're kind of back now like saw and all this stuff

They think they're going away are they I can't ever tell saw I thought this is the one that's really interesting to me right now That's making a big revival is like the the uber macho super kind of masculine Hero like typically portrayed by so best Sloan or all choice and eager or one of these kinds of guys. It's like get the expendables which came out which surprisingly was like a huge hit. Yeah. And then Rambo was and then kind of like a cult hit. Yeah and Rambo was fairly big too. And then now you have Duke Nukem coming out. And Duke Nukem is kind of like the parody. Yeah of those characters, but it's a it's a winking a nod parody

It's like it's very slight. I'm like Duke Nukem the game now Duke Nukem the game, but just like in terms of an overall cultural You know rise of this type of of character and and genre it seems to be coming back I don't give a fuck about Duke Nukem. I don't want to talk about Duke Nukem anymore I'm so I'm so burned down on Duke Nukem news. I don't care. fuck about Duke Nukem. I don't want to talk about Duke Nukem anymore. I'm so burned down on Duke Nukem news. I don't care. I'm not into the game. And the game when it came out, like whenever the first ones came out, wasn't that good to begin with? Wasn't that interesting? It wasn't that fun.

And I don't know why people are so fascinated by this goddamn game. I think honestly it's because it was kept away from people for so long. They just wanted it more. I think at the end is because you find out he's a werewolf. I think it's going to be like snakes in the plane. I think we're going to have this thing. And it's going to be probably one of the first things with games where it's one of those things. That's a big deal on the internet, but it's not going to translate to anything, which is weird because video games in the internet go so closely together.

Yeah, but I think the fantasy of Duke Duke or this like running joke everyone has, I think that's way bigger than the property. I know. Yeah, the second the game comes out, nobody's going to care. No, it's just it's because it makes still not come out. Jokeshiver. Yeah. Right.

If I could just sell that property from game company to the game company as a marketing ploy. There is a very strange disconnect nowadays between like marketing and even like fan generated enthusiasm when you talk about stuff like Duke Nukem and Scott Pilgrim and other things that are like they seem to be huge on the internet. We've talked about this before on the podcast, yeah. Right. Go ahead.

Well, I mean, it's just that, I mean, it's like if you only, you know, got all of your impressions from Twitter or Gagre or whatever, the internet, blogosphere or whatever they call that, you know, real life. You know what I'm saying? The magic flavors? The magic universe. Yeah. If you only got all of your impressions from that and not, you know, walking around, actually talking to people, whatever, you would think that those movies, those video games were

the biggest thing ever. The second coming up box car Jesus, whatever. And really, they're not, they come out like snakes on a plane. It's like people were so, people thought snakes on a plane, like the idea and the marketing and just, you know, the cheesiness factor of it was really interesting and really funny, but nobody wanted to actually see the movie. Yeah, no, yeah, it's just, does it, does it translate to box office?

Which I thought about that I talked about like or or actual Asher and Kutcher and things like having so many followers on Twitter But then I actually kitchen movie makes a hundred and fifty four thousand dollars of the box office You know when he has five million followers on Twitter So don't they follow him because they're interested in asking Kutcher? Is that what isn't at the deal? It's it's it's there's always like to see every now and then it makes the conversations on the internet seem irrelevant It does because it doesn't like it doesn't lead to anything

Doesn't lead to any kind of like actual business or anything, but you mentioned you mentioned dig a second ago What do you think yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? We're talking about about the whole the dig read is I don't think we've ever talked about that But that is actually one of the biggest stories I think going on right now on the internet. Carrie, do you, what do you surf when you go online? I did go to dig. Oh, you did? I did. And what happened? You don't go to dig anymore? No. All right. So why don't you go to dig anymore? I don't know. I just, I didn't like the change. There's something about it. Yeah, just, I just maybe not want to go to the site anymore. It wasn't, it wasn't, I wasn't listening to other people. I didn't, I just, you know, I went to the site one day

and I noticed it looked like Facebook and I thought Not so much and we were so really busy at that time so I kind of stopped But do you have you replaced that with something else? No, okay, so you just don't go there anymore? I just yeah, I don't have I don't I've been going to like a aggregate new site anything like that Did you find that you were going there less before? The switchover and you just stopped when the switchover happened? Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. So is the you already on the decline in the next? Yeah. Okay. I just need this interesting because there's a phenomenon. It's in general fandom and I guess it applies to the internet in general where people build stuff up and they're all part of this community and they build something up and then there's a phase that they hit where they go through the tear down phase where part of the fun is tearing that thing down that they helped

build up. We see like Star Wars episode one is a great example where it's all. Well, it's the, you know, I found it first. It was cool until everybody else found it kind of mentality, right? Yeah. You know, I mean, everything stops being, it starts getting less cool the moment you find it. Yeah, exactly.

Like when you found it, it was at its height of cool. And then it was all downhill from there. Right. But like dig is interesting to me, because I saw an article about it that talked about the percentage of domains in URLs where their links come from. And it could almost be broken down into like a handful of like 10 domains make up like 90% of the links. And then there's like a subset of like you know of this this

few other you know random material that comes from everywhere else. But it like I mean that whole premise of dig correct me from wrong was that it's supposed to be a user generated and user promoted ranking of links. And that's what the social aspect of it is. But I think people got tired of it. It seemed like it was just particular domains probably that were paying to get there somehow or whatever.

And it, or people trying to game the system. People trying to game the system. And it no longer felt like you had any input as a user. Should probably say what we're talking about really quickly. In case you're not for sure, dig.com, dig.com is a site. It's an aggregation site where you can send in links like if we wanted to promote Red Versus Blue and we thought, okay, let's submit it today. So we kind of like a Kotaku in a way?

Not quite. It's like I would submit a link to say to ladies up, I said, Red Versus Blue, or one of our fans would do that. It's something you want to get out there and then Theoretically the way it works is in the back end It shows up and people who like this thing can dig it which is basically just up voting it Um, and then if it gets enough digs it ends up on the front page in theoretically But then of course once you have a system like that people will always should figure out how to game that

uh, especially once it gets more popular. And then the dig community is very vocal as well. They participate in comments and then you can upvote and dig the comments that people make as well. And then there was a big beta test where they did it. I think they called in like major users and did a very long beta test because I knew it was coming for a long time. One day they did a switch over to where the way that you submit stories and I'm not entirely clear on it has changed,

where they focus more on legitimate new sources so that people aren't just making blogs to redirect traffic through them and then submitting that to dig. But then also changing the look and feel. Like Keri said, you think it looks a lot like Facebook? Yeah. Yeah. Maybe like slight changes to the colors scheme and things. But the end result of all this is that there's been a huge user revolt where they actively hated which users hate every change. Right. If you're a member of a site. I think in this case, it seems like the design change maybe was just the straw that broke the camel's back or at least maybe like brought some of the underlying problems to the surface and made it more apparent to everybody that it wasn't serving them in a community way that they thought it had been originally intended to do.

But it's been very interesting to see this perfect storm of the way the users were heading and with the change at the same time where it's amazing to see the effect it's had on that site in a very short amount of time. So what I'm getting is that people don't like this change and they move to Reddit. Reddit's one of them. Yeah, Reddit's being uptick. Similar to dig. Yes, another aggregation site.

To me, to me they're all derivative of like FARC or slash dot. I mean, yeah, everyone always thinks they're the one inventing the wheel, but you know, it's just a reinvention. And yeah, they've moved on to something else, you one inventing the wheel, but you know, it's just a reinvention and Yeah, they've moved on to something else You know or other places, but you can kind of see because it's all numbers, right? How many upvotes something gets how many comments something get and it's just down across the board I mean, it's you can't really hide that because they they post all its other something they might have gotten You know 800 digs before now gets about a hundred digs

And whereas it might have got 300 comments, you know 250 comments and now gets eight. I'm also getting that I don't follow any of these so it's this is all fresh to me But I'm also getting that because it apparently looks like Facebook now some people dislike it Yeah, is there an ins it that's what I'm wondering too is like is there an intense Facebook Back lash that's just about to crest you know like with the movie coming out and there's that that lost suit and it seems like more and more I hear like I don't like a site because it

looks like Facebook or because it's trying to be Facebook and if you don't like because it's trying to be Facebook is that's because you don't like Facebook either or it's just the the me two attitude that they that kind of rub them the wrong way yeah I think the big thing to take away from it is that it always seems like or is it just the mean to attitude that they that kind of rub them the wrong way? Yeah. OK. I think the big thing to take away from it is that it always seems like the internet is whatever the current five biggest sites are, like Google or Facebook or DIG or whatever.

And it seems like those sites can't go away. They're like, oh, they've filled in this gap and that's what they do. Now Google is a totally different animal. But sites like DIG or Facebook, like if you said what's gonna be after Facebook I think there's a lot of people think that Facebook is the thing and it's cougarlife.com It's cougar life. Yeah, and it's not going anywhere, but there will be something after Facebook Facebook You know if nothing else

Young people who are too young to use the internet now will grow up and they're not gonna want each Facebook Because it's his head book old people like carry use Facebook, you know, yeah, I move on to whatever You know, there'll be something I do read my space my space. I mean my I'm a stranger. It did in my space. I mean, same thing with the tear down there. People hate my space. Yeah, you know, we try pod. Whatever. I've had a question about dig because you know, I haven't been on the internet lately. I've been looking at sites, but I would always see articles and it would have a link to the site of the article that would say, do you want to dig this?

Are those going away now? I don't think so. Now when I go to a news article, it's usually there's like 50 buttons like that. The buttons have gotten out of control. They really have. I mean, do you want to dig it or stumble it or read it or read it or wonder about it or go somewhere and have a nap? I don't know There needs to be a werewolf and a vampire button at the bottom as well

Let's talk more about revelation production sure not get that buddy. What do you want to talk about? I don't know I should throw it up there. Someone else started I'm just the idea man. You guys have different vibes. Content. Well, you know, the DVD just came out. It came out last Monday. What day is today? Yeah. Yeah. I came out last Monday. We had a we had a lot of users on our site last night for not putting out an episode. Well, they we kind of got them in the zone of coming Mondays at nine central. Don't get out of that zone. Don't get out of that. We kind of got them in the zone of coming Mondays at nine central Matt you're working on shorts not right now right working on shorts. I think we're all gonna

Go shoot something tomorrow. Cool, and We had we had a little bit of a stock pile of some stuff we had shot and we've now burned through it We actually had to wait a stock pile some stuff for the move and then we I was hoping we'd stockpile enough to get through the intense period of red versus blue production. Yeah, but we Clearly didn't and we just didn't have enough which was the cause of our little break that we had there was like four week break For shorts, I think sounds like it yeah in our in the midst of our heaviest Cycle on red versus blue wasn't really a break for us. It wasn't a break for us. Yeah, it breaks on the crosser. Yeah, put our feet That was a pretty intense period. How did that how did that period of production compare to other things that you've worked on?

I mean, there was a point where we had hotel rooms across the street and we would just go sleep in our hotel rooms I you know what now that you mentioned the hotel rooms. I'd actually say it was easier than the most most of the production times I've had. Yeah. Yeah, like when I was doing... Like two years ago when I was at Namco and we were on Crunch at our game, I was on Crunch in a game. And as soon as I was done with that and everyone was wanting to just relax, take a break, I started production on prototypes for our next game, single-handedly, by the way. While everyone else was like, all right, it's time to vacate and take a vacation and stuff.

And I decided I wanted to deliver three episodes of Dead Fantasy at the same time. Wow. I started that and did that within four months. There was a lot of swearing going on in my private time. Yeah. But I mean, how about like the actual production crunch the production crunch time like you've been to video game crunch video. Video game crunch is the worst. Oh my god. They they they uh because because you treated worse. Right. We treat you really well. We're just to get out of the tower room. We got all the tower room. Right. Now food from

Amazon. The Hollywood orders a lot of what's what's called healthy, healthy fresh mixers, fresh mixers, fresh mixers. That's a current, you've got a great, those are great. You fucking microwave them, you got Zedian meat sauce. My only problem with the four stars in Amazon, the Zedian meat sauce is like, it says 300 calories on there, but it's really like 3000 calories because you have to eat 10 of them. Yeah, well, because one is like bubble gum.

It's like, it doesn't even, I mean, I didn't fill you up at all. It's like you didn't eat anything. Well, nothing. So I let me up. I could eat after I eat every single time. But the problem is if you eat 10 of them, you pretty much have your yearly supply of sodium.

So it is. So be careful. You'll have a stroke instantaneously. But a production was pretty cool for us I think because it's like I I mean one of the things that was different for me here versus like game jobs that I had Which I was pretty much there 24 hours a day. Yep, not 24 hours a day But like you know, I do two day two day straight or maybe even three days straight here. I could do two days straight or two

They straight but I come in whenever like you'd see me like Matt straight, but I'd come in whenever. Like, you'd see me, like Matt, just saying, I'd come in at like, I didn't see him for like two weeks because I was coming in at like 9 a.m. or 9 p.m. and leaving at like 5 a.m. or something or some stuff like that. I remember raining got off of me one time. He's actually worried about you. He's gonna call the police at one point. Why?

I don't know. That was that week. That was talking about earlier. Like, we hadn't seen you in so long. It's like, what's going on? But then, so then I got on your computer and started going through your files and looking at the date modified. I know that was that week that was talking about earlier like we hadn't seen you in so long It's like what's going on But it's so then I got on your computer and started going through your files and looking at the date modified The figure out if you had been there and turned out you had been there

All of the stuff we just had never had not come across. It was like a game of finding clues to see the money was in the office Exactly was producing stuff which is fun. It's always fun to be making stuff. I'm working on stuff right now It is it is I've been in a business admin clearing house phase where just taking care of stuff that I think is a drag, right? Had a neglect a little bit. Well, like at one point, we actually had our phone shut off up there because we didn't time our move date, right? And remember, we had a month of month of no internet up at the old office just because we just didn't change our move date and time and they moved the service down here and then we forwarded our phones back up there. Our internet.

We can't do that with internet. Our internet at the old place was so bad. It was terrible. It was terrible. And there were so many times when we had to get an episode uploaded and we would have to leave the office and go to somebody's house to upload just to make sure it got up in time. But when we launched the internet,

well like our normal landline internet connection, Gus went out and got one of those clear things. And it turned out that was faster than our original landline internet connection. The only problem was that we had to like hold the computer on the windowsill in order to get any connection. I remember that. And I was like, say it I was like say into Brandon like wow this is awesome

Why didn't we do this before Brandon's like well? It's not a sound way to run a business I'm like that's out better or sound I'd go for better. I think we're yeah Money's not about appearances. I think Brandon was worried about the insurance or legal hassles If we drop the computer out the window and you know crack some in cracks some of the skull. In fact, currently right now everyone's in this like moving mode where it are all printing up their spaces and trying to get their kind of work area to be, you know, I think we've moved on to printing up your space. So there's a particularly tidying up when you leave. I just made it as bare, minimal, minimal workable as I could.

They just get started working. I got to get that mocap set up right now. Matt, we did put the two Clottery is guys is that the best way to put it? Clottery is a is a word that is Very apropos to describe Brandon and Monty. We put them in the main room Brandon has a stack of hard drives. I don't know They're not connected to anything No one knows what these hard drives do over their forward.

What do they have on them? No idea. All I know is there's a stand over every single time he stands up. Yeah, there's stacked under his desk. And they do nothing except like Robin of FootSpace. It's like 14 terabytes of storage. He has under his desk.

And I don't know what is the purpose of that? What does he do with it? That Cougar website. Yeah. He's like, I'm like, calm. So I was upset about the clear connection. What what is the purpose of that what does he do with it that could her website? About the clear connection We said with sound business. He's talking about his business But he's actually he's actually back up at the old office today Brandon this and he is

Cleaning yeah, no, he's he's kind of like prepping it for tomorrow. You guys shooting there tomorrow, right? Yeah. Yeah Spoiler spoiler Where does one last one? Yeah, we have we have the old office until the end of this month So yeah, which is cool because we only had to extend our Lisa I think four months So we've got an almost perfect I mean those two dates almost came together. I will say I miss the coffee house downstairs Hi every place we've ever been we've been next to a coffee house except for this place Yeah. I will say I missed the coffee house downstairs. Every place we've ever been, we've been next to a coffee house, except for this place.

Yeah, I missed the people at the coffee house. There's good people over there. It's fun talking to them. Yeah, I think they were, they were very nice to us. And they even hosted fans that were come by looking for the office a few times. I will not miss, they called them customers. The front gate closing at like 7 p.m.

and having to walk around through the back entrance, through shit. Yeah, you mean the second toilet? Yeah. Jeez, you know what was really weird? When we moved into that place, Kerry and Monty weren't there, but when we moved into that place,

we had a big old present, waiting for us in the backstab. Come on. It was a big old like hobo duker back there. And whoever the guy took it, oh, and I used condom. It was back there too, right? Wasn't those the two things? Yeah, I'm out of the stuff.

And the duker was in an old milk carton. I don't know why you decide, there's some kind of etiquette there. It's like, well, I'm going to take a shit on the back step of this building. The least I can do is do it in a milk carton. Right? And then when we moved out, I don't know if it was the same guy if he was feeling nostalgic or what, but another one right in the same place.

And approximately the same size. He maybe eats the same thing regularly. You're lured I'm just saying It's a busy guy saying these are the things you notice when you work downtown All right, let's segue to Ben Affleck's career from that discussion Did you see the town? Are you interested in that at all? What are you trying to say then he's lost like on the back of milk carton? Or is there some kind of other analogy you were trying to pull out of that? No, I think he's moving on.

Just like we're moving on from the progress. That's what that was my analogy there. I have not seen the sound but everybody is saying good things about it and it'd be cool to see John Ham from Madman in another role that was worthy of him. John Ham should play Fred Flintstone if they ever do live out. I have a live action with who John Goodman. Yeah, but that guy has like five o'clock shadow Instantaneously, I mean, he must shave and just have that five o'clock shadow. Just like a cartoon character like Homer Simpson You want to rent that five o'clock shadow out? You know, it's a good endorsements

Just his five o'clock shadow. Hi, I'm John Ham's 5 o'clock shadow. You get it's okay to drink. I'm around. It's 5 o'clock. It's a drink whiskey with John Ham's 5 o'clock shadow. But the cool thing about the channel, which I'm just realizing, is I knew that Ben Affleck wrote it. And it's supposed to be an awesome movie. I didn't know that he wrote it. He also directed it. He directed it. It's a second directorial effort. Is it what he did?

He did the other one that was the Hollywood land one? No, no, no, no. It was, it was also set in Boston. It was by the Dennis Lane who wrote Shutter Island. Uh-huh. Wrote this one. He wrote the complain. Can you write it in the department?

Not the department. No, no, no, no. No, god, what's the name of it? Had his brother Casey Affleck in it, I want to say. Yeah, I think I know what you're talking about, but I can't remember the departed. No, no, no, God. What's the name of it? Head is brother KC Affleck in it. I want to say yeah, I think I know your time up. I can't remember the man. I can't oh gone baby gone Okay, that was it, but you know that was the promise of Matt Damon and Panathluck when they won they were gonna be yeah Right when they won that awesome great creators Behind the scene behind the camera not just not just actors and then they both went off and made you know

And the born I get and the devil daredevil daredevil wow Yikes, and it seemed like Matt Damon kind of like took off for a while there was like kind of Pacing Ben Affleck's true. I've received like Ben Affleck was doing it because he was a star of all those blockbuster movies And then he made a couple missteps and then suddenly Matt Damon was making already like Mr. Town to Mr Ripley and stuff like that and then he was suddenly the guy who was doing everything like the oceans 18 or how many of those oceans movies have they made? Three of them now. There's 11 to 13. They should have named those there finally because it feels like there have been 13. Having a 13 maybe it's just because

they got extremely tiresome after the first one one What was the one which was the one where Julia Roberts played the woman who looks like Julia Roberts? What was that? I don't know that was 12 Pretty sure I felt like they were improving that Plot point literally on the screen like I felt like the actors were there making shit up in the movie theaters They just You got a command for they just got a command for the curtain that they were really

going to be back to the crash of the the screening live but uh... yet but you know i was sure the common hurt about that but i'm not like a mad damon was that

if hollywood can't make these guys good parts they can always make their own they can I cry to rebar it's at that. Yeah, it's that we said you can they can always write themselves Excellent parts. So it's kind of cool to see that it is me. I think anybody would do the same though if you had a chance to be like The lead in a Bruce Willis movie, you know, or you know Army get in or something like that You probably would do that. You can't pass up that experience. Probably so, you know Michael Bay enormous comments gonna smash into the earth. So, look, so go see the town. I'm gonna go see, I haven't seen it, but it's just on the promise that it's gonna be good. I want to go to hear the Boston accent for two hours. I love that Boston accent. Oh yeah. And when, uh, this is a weird story I haven't told them when we were at at packs

I was seeing next to this this nice couple from Boston and I was in a like an restaurant like they had a window like it had some seats They're like oh wait wait, let me start the story because it starts with me like Brandon and I were sharing a room at packs, right, and this was what Sunday, right? Yeah, we're getting ready to go this day This day we're getting ready to go and Brandon decides to wander off somewhere I think he was being sentimental about Seattle or something and I just I'm just so that I'd all right I'm gonna go get some breakfast or something maybe some coffee and I'm I had kind of just

meandering towards the direction of the convention center I run into Jeff and Luke we're walking back and they're like, oh, we've got shit for the booth. So I decided to go help them. And then we went back to the hotel because they apparently forgot what the tripods and like the boxes for the TV and like all that other shit they had apparently. How can you forget something that big? But anyways, that's the news that bring back to the booth, right?

And then we so we go back to the hotel room also and then Jeff also happened to forget his badge to get into the conventions. So we keep thankfully he was able to take mine and we grab all the shit and gather in the hotel room In their defense they were still drunk from the night before probably Saturday is how they forgot it Yeah, so like we gather all the shit like Tripods and boxes and shit to take to back to the to. And we hail a cab. And now, at this point, Gus had also met up with us because we had forgotten other stuff that we needed to actually start to day with. And so it's me, Jeff, Luke, and Gus,

hailing a cab with like two-shreds of tri-pods and giant boxes and stuff. And then- Yeah, two giant TVs. And then- And then, so I, I mean while completely you know Unknowing of what was going on with them. I had gone down to get breakfast and there was this restaurant a block down and had a like a bar that Was next to a big pain glass window looking out of the street and I'm sitting next to this nice couple from Boston

It was kind of chatting with them. They were Visiting CL for the very first time and they were very confused by all the video game stuff going on. They didn't know why there was for all these you know cosplay outfits and everything. You told them it's always like that. I said I said this is the way CL is. So I you didn't hear about that from your chore guide. But they there's always a guide in the Duke Newcomap that you know walk around with a giant you know 80-cal machine gun. But they were we're looking at the window and, um, I, I'm eating my food and, and looking at my phone or something, and I hear the two of them going, oh, wow, look at these idiots.

Can you believe these guys? How stupid are they? What are they doing? They're never gonna fit that in there. Oh, there's a Larry. It's not looking. I'm drooling around and I look up and the idiots are referring to are Luke, Jeff, Gus, and Monty. All trying to figure out how to get these gigantic TVs in this cab that is clearly not going to fit it. And they were running around like Keystone cops, trying to figure out a way to, you know, squeeze more square footage out of this cab than it actually had.

And the couple from Boston thought that was frickin' hilarious. They were laughing their asses off. And so I actually always like that. And that is true. I said, I said, does it answer my friends? So imagine everything would go down to help them. And any point. No, I was having too much on watch them. Sounds like a scene out of like pulp fiction or something where like two think two story lines converge at one point. It was, yeah, pretty much. I wish only

was taking video of it, but I was laughing too hard I wish I had been more coherent during the panel because like Yeah, I always get that one question. What is it that question? Bernie is a what programs you use what programs you use money to make your G. G. Scenes like G. I. Z. That is like every other goddamn email I get and message and comment is like what program I wish I'd like at the panel the thing is we had me and Brandon had not slept the night before we like flew in and stuff. I wish I had at that. Let's hear that story. At the panel. I wish I had turned to Bernie and been like, Hey, Bernie, what are you used to write your scripts? Word? All right. So if I download Word, can I write scripts

like you? That would be the perfect point. I'm glad you didn't say that though. They might not come across that great to a kid coming up and asking the question. You're probably going home crying. They do have a clippy now. That's what you want, how to write red versus blue scripts, I think, don't you think? What's a clippy? Remember clippy from Microsoft Word?

The little office assistant? Oh, is that the paper clip? Yeah, that's cool. What would you like to do now today, dirtbag? You know, I don't. Exactly. I like the fact that you being a lifetime Matt guy, that you have a name for that.

I don't think anyone had a name for that. I said that was all Gus. We're here He would probably tell you that Excel was originally introduced on Mac. I remember that I don't mean I don't know you know, I actually you know this right rain. I'm explain more Mac for the PC go despite me being a PC user currently. I actually used to be a very heavy Mac user Really? Yes, you converted back No, I actually used to be a very heavy Mac user. Really? You converted it back? No. I'm still on the PC right now.

I converted to PC. You converted to PC from Mac? From Mac. That's right. What drove you? I guess the argument would be I choose freedom over stability. I think every argument for Mac, like on why you should use a Mac Mac is based on how stable it is and how it makes your life easier The way I use PCs

It's just stuff that makes sense that isn't there on a Mac like How come on a Mac when I want to resize a window? I can only drag the bottom right corner or like the fact that when I remember Older OS is I think OS 7 if you had the numlock off and you hit the decimal key on the number pad, you could drop down the menu bar and access those through keystrokes, but that doesn't happen any more. Well, if you'd like to start from another corner, you'd be holding it wrong. But like stuff on the, like if I wanted to access brightness and contrast on Photoshop on a Mac, you have to hit the mouse and drag it from the menu bar, where for me, brightness

and contrast on a PC is alt IAC. Alt highlights the image in the menu option, drops it down, A is adjust, and C is contrast. Stuff like that, or Gaussian blur, alt T, B, right, down G. Stuff like that. So you've learned that you use computer in one way, and that's the way that the press of time. It has a general rule that there's a way

to get to every menu option via a letter or a keyboard stroke. OK. Yeah. And you don't have that on a Mac. You don't have that on a Mac. You have to use the mouse. If you unplugged your mouse from your Mac, you would lose like 50%, 60% of your interface. And money gets its efficiency down like tearing the covers off the keyboards and things like that.

I've seen money like calculate the way he's going to run down the stairs to do it faster and figure out the fastest way to get down the stairs. How about a money efficiency story from Jeff? Look here, Griffin has a money efficiency story here. One time Jeff was going into the kitchen and Monty was going to microwave something and he said it says in the package and he might to microwave this for a minute. But if I microwave it for 59 seconds, I only have to do that. No, no, no, no, that's 59.

55 because you get the button to like, or 56 because it's the whole of the number. So you'd rather put it in a cold food than, what's it for seconds? It's five seconds. No, it's five second difference or four second difference from a minute. If you want to make a statement, wave something for a minute. What do you type? 1,00? Yeah. Or you type 5, 5, 6, 6, 5, or 5, 6.

And that's two digits with a single roll or a double tap. What? I just didn't have to be that our microwave skulls are door at this point. We hasn't ripped it off because it isn't want to push the button open the door. OK. Well, how would you rate this podcast in terms

of efficiency today, then? I don't know. A little slow in the middle, kind of fast at the door. Okay, well how would you rate this podcast in terms of efficiency today then? I don't know. A little slow in the middle, kind of fast at the end. Could use more coffee. How about the ending now? We are going to stop now. Describe the show to a newcomer in a more familiar way. Do you like apples? Alright, example. Together in Trempathos, Characombs, Characombs are free to deal with nothing to do with this podcast. Analyze various unsolved, and Ruestrates cryptic podcast,

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