Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #82

Episode Date: October 6, 2010

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie, comes a new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-octane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnet, and Thomas Hayden Church,
Starting point is 00:00:40 twisted metal, streaming now only on P-Cock. The Journey Is A You Did technical difficulties we joined the podcast in progress as Brandon defends his ignorance of spiders Everyone You see it every day you see the moon every day there you interact with the moon every day in some way and every night There's the moon every night how but like it's just another it's another moon or planet to you or a star like By your logic, why would you bother learning any of them? So you're never gonna go to the moon so everything everything that comes up in a given day no matter how small you guys you guys know it right? No, there's something like
Starting point is 00:01:35 Common How do you know what men's is you don't interact with men's on a daily basis? I do interact with men's on a daily base. What is men's it? It's like a collection of smart dudes, right? Group you have to apply for you get a smart. That's true. That is true. All right look It is a society. Don't It's all right my bad. All right if I get been my spider I got a fucking phone I can Google poisonous spiders. I can probably find a database of spiders pretty easily. Yeah, I know I don't get a research it and plus stop playing with fucking spider.
Starting point is 00:02:13 This does bring up a point though is that because all of our memory essentially and all of our information is now outsourced to places like Google and the internet. Uh-huh. Do you need to use your brain to store any of these things? If you have something that you can just pull out of your pocket, type it in and there, then you're... Yes. Because cellphones break, you lose signal. You don't want to be stuck in the mountains trying to Google poison a spider when you may or may not be dying because you can't get a fucking signal on the side of a cliff.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Well, I can give you a great example where this actually came up. When we first bought this place, Brandon and I were out here all the time, like looking at the building, deciding what we were going to work on, and one of the things we did was we discovered the fact that we had a tree in the back that was covered in Poise Nivy. I mean about half the leaves on the tree were Poise Nivy leaves. Okay. And the reason we were able to identify that was we had that rule of Brandon, you know, this, what, how do you identify Poise Nivy leaves. Okay. And the reason we were able to identify that was we had that rule of brand new, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:05 this, what, how do you identify poison ivy? Uh, do you itch? So it's a 3 let it be. It leaves a 3 let it be, right? So there's 3 leaves on one little branch, then that's probably poison ivy. That's what at least a way to identify it. But we just looked at it, we pull it up and Wikipedia on our iPhones, see a picture and go, that is literally that plant.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Here it is right here. This is a future. If I want to know what this is, and I was trying to explain to him that, you know, 20 years ago, if you wanted to know if it was Poison Ivy, it wasn't even like, oh, I have to go home to find out. There was no way to home to find out. It's like, you had to go to a library or look up on it.
Starting point is 00:03:41 It's a bunch of botanists. I have a sample I'd like to take to the lab. Is this the dot orgasaurus? Orgasaurus. This is the dot orgasaurus up on it. It's a lot to you. A botanist. I have a sample I'd like to take to the lab. Is this the dot orgasaurus? This is the dot orgasaurus portion of it. But this is, and so Brandon's solution was to get round up and spray it all over the tree. No, explain why round up, why you don't spray round up all over a tree. Read the down directions. It's not a threat to trees.
Starting point is 00:04:06 It's hung up. If it was, people wouldn't use it. I don't think that's what you said. When I said, why did you swear round up all of the tree? He said, I asked the guy who worked at Home Depot and he goes, no problem. So that's another instance of, don't ever ask the guy to go ahead Home Depot or anything.
Starting point is 00:04:24 The guy Home Oh, no shit You know the great part of the great part of killing that poison ivy is we live in Austin Which Austin will not vote for fucking expanding a highway, but they'll vote for saving a fucking ladybug So it was cool. It was cool to like kill vegetation in the city like I thought I was getting back at all the frustrations Overliving in such an environmentally crazy city. We are insane. No. God. We did something a little rude.
Starting point is 00:04:48 We actually didn't tell the guys who replaced our back fence that it was covered with boys maybe. We just figured they'd be able to figure it out on their own. Yeah, those guys deal with poison ivy every day, I'm sure. Putting up chain link fences in Texas. Yeah, I'm sure they see it all the time. They probably also know the spiders. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess
Starting point is 00:05:05 It's probably what's going to avoid What if they bread for lunch That's good that's that's only two you know what I did not know that bread makes you fat But I will say I went to a public school a shady public school and my fucking health teacher a nutrition was a goddamn coach That's been as old as a teaching dodgeball You know what all you motherfuckers can can't acknowledge this when I did fucking learn about nutrition I lost a lot of fucking weight and now I look better than all of you You're also 12 years old.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I mean, you can probably drop like five pounds in a day if you want. Do you know one of the craziest part is I'm actually nowhere close to the youngest in the company now? It's weird. Is that true? Yeah. We have a... Looking from our perspective, you're all kinds of close to the youngest in the company. Yeah, dude, no kidding.
Starting point is 00:05:59 We got Carrie. Carrie, obviously. I got Newsweek, buddy. You and Carrie are the same age. You're like six months apart. Carrie's 19. I don't get us kicked out of restaurants the difference washing that is true You don't I'm 24 I am 24 gonna be 25 difference between 19 and 24 I think it's also 20 isn't it? 20 20 to 24 is like a week
Starting point is 00:06:19 There's nothing I've also never seen a clear example of shit rolling downhill than this There's nothing I've also never seen a clear example of shit rolling downhill than this Rannigats on the podcast is immediately like let's target someone else Never ending loop we're gonna get carry on next week. Here's gonna talk shit about someone else And it's gonna go on forever. You have you met Carrie? In a few weeks you will actually be making fun of stem cells Shit about it. I know Carrie can talk shit about Hitler. What is that? The nicest kid Carrie serves a very valuable person. He's a very healthy organ. You don't know when he's gonna be valuable at the end of the
Starting point is 00:06:51 time. He's got typo blood. Having talked all that shit about spiders, I did see one when I was out hiking and I did take a fucking picture of it. So I'll be straight. You gotta, you gotta be over there. I put it back. I love that you just, you're gonna be straight with this G. Yeah, I just, I I'm gonna I'm Jeff I'm gonna show you this picture that that Brandon took on his iPhone Hey zoomed in it's zoom. He is it'll zoom. He found a spider. It took a picture of I'm a person I've ever met I was a spider spider killer you idiot. I was Spider it's a spider killer you idiot I was
Starting point is 00:07:26 I was in the way does that can that thing fucking jump? Google it how far can that thing jump? Yeah, it hurt you with a daddy long legs. Oh my god. They are poisonous though. No, that's a torture Do. Do you believe that? Yeah, I think they are poisonous right but they They can't leave turning on a microwave with nothing in it. We'll damage it absolutely. That's fucking bullshit Are you retarded? I'm not you can't you can't microwave nothing. I Destroy your mic. I beg to differ. Does our microwave work now? How many times have you done it? Well once now we'll see yeah do it three four times a day This part of us burning is like oh, why didn't she use the timer doesn't I?
Starting point is 00:08:07 Haven't verified that yet. I'm pretty sure it does have a time You also have an iPhone in your pocket that has a timer on it. Oh stop watch. It was upstairs Here's what you do. Why would you leave your iPhone upstairs? There could be a spider downstairs What are you gonna do? The Spider covered in a splice time for camouflage. Man, I got two or three more things to bring up,
Starting point is 00:08:29 but I don't want to make this the brand and podcast. Oh, we do. Oh, yeah, no, that's why you're here. Alright, yeah. This is the brand and podcast. Shit, what was the next thing? A fucking IKEA shit? That was not my fault.
Starting point is 00:08:39 That was fucking Bernie's fault. How was it my fault? I assembled like two or three of those motherfuckers and there's like 20 pieces each and then Bernie comes out and makes me feel like an idiot for using a regular screwdriver. So Bernie has this industrial drill that I use and it rips the shit out of one of the drawers. He has a hole in his palm because he put together three IKEA cabinets with a screwdriver and let me tell you something. It's so shame in putting together an IKEA cabinet wrong. You have to do it once in your life where you completely put it together wrong.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I didn't put it together wrong. What? How can you say that? I just destroyed two of the holes for the job. Have you ever, have you ever bought IKEA shit? There's a reason why it's so cheap. It's not even wood. You know, this wood have calories. We even want it so cheap. It's not even wood. This wood have calories. And what do you say? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Was it poisonous wood? No, it was poisonous. It was not poisonous wood. That's how beaver's gotten such a great shape. Beaver 2.0. Fuck, dude, I look good. I have results. This is the ultimate difference.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I got results. So the industrial drill he's talking about, it's really just a drill. It's a drill. It's a drill. I have that same drill. It's a nice, normal drill. It is not. And he says that he can also say you can't change speed, but you can do it in about two seconds.
Starting point is 00:10:00 You just don't pull the trigger as much. And he has no look. And he goes from nothing and he yanks the trigger. Yeah, it goes to the whole speed. Very speed. Yeah. It's depending on pressure, man. seconds you just don't pull the trigger as much and you know look and he goes from nothing and he yanks the trick and it's a little bit it's yeah it's depending on pressure man touch sensitive look look at these hands these hands are fucking smooth as balls all right smooth as balls we're gonna balls do you have man I have smooth balls I am not I am not worked a legitimate day in my life oh as Brandon's boss I hope you're paying attention to that. No, Brandon works very hard. Hey, this is a podcast me
Starting point is 00:10:29 Need you right? Gonna sign that shit before you get in here. Oh fuck Brandon is an eight-class administrator slash producer as long as we don't ever have a Shoot that involves Bread eating Who are covered in Kalamine lotion. Do you know I can't listen this no idea I love you know I've never worked a physical like a day of my life doing physical labor either and I can use a fucking drill That's no defense man. Look at me. Congratulations. I'm working. I'm working IT at a tech company I know I don't do shit. I can use a fucking drill. Hey, do you want a bad? I don't say what up triggers work?
Starting point is 00:11:02 Do you want a pad on the back? You want a pad on the back? No, I just want to you Hey, do you want a paddle? I don't understand. You want a trigger, his work. Do you want a paddle on the back? No, I just want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to, you want to cook? Look at that. I'm angry, breathe, I'm fired out of a canyon. Brad is just like coming out of Sweden. No, this is, this is fucking who I am. He's young, he can take us all on at the same time. We don't hang out. That's the two point, no.
Starting point is 00:11:16 We don't hang out. We just work together. Feels like the rope and gel, but we beat him up on him for three weeks, and then he shows up. He's all rest. No, rest you, go ahead. I'd be here 730 the last two days. Oh, I know. It's early. It's fucking early. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:29 You know it's really surprising about this company is that Jeff is consistently the guy who gets here first and has been for years. Why is that surprising? Well, because Jeff is lazy and he's kind of a scumbag. Was that before? I'm a morning. Jeff also spent all those years in the army. Yeah. They brainwash you and change your biological clock to get up super early. Let me tell you what a typical house or morning is years in the army. Yeah, they brainwash you and change your biological clock to get up too early.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Let me tell you what a typical house morning is like in my house. I get up at 7.30 and I get my kid dressed, then I make her breakfast, then I make her lunch, then I go outside and I feed the chickens, and by then I come back in and I brush her teeth. I just don't say brain at any point, feel free to look up anything that Jeff is talking Yeah, no, I got my phone on I brush her teeth I make sure her hair is combed and then I take my daughter to school I Don't know what my wife does during that point, but it's a whole lot of nothing. I got it together
Starting point is 00:12:16 I think it has something to do with makeup this morning. She was gonna take me to school I usually take me to school But I wanted to get to work a little earlier today to work on some videos and to try to fix my computer problems that I've been having for two days. And so I did all of those things from set, and I leave by eight. So I get all of that done in 30 minutes, and I take a shower. I did all of that for Gryffin this morning so that she could take me to school. She still somehow got my kid to school, like, ten minutes late. We live ten minutes away from the school. She has to be there by 8.30.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Everything in the house was done by 758. Still couldn't get my kid to school on time. What is that? Well, she just wrote an entire journal about you guys being lazy. Both you and She called you out. Well, somebody should get her because they you were too lazy to get your own glass of water Even though you're walking around the house of your laptop. It's it's It's not true, necessarily. You're just fairly. What, should we get her?
Starting point is 00:13:08 She got up to go to the bathroom, which is right by the kitchen, and I said, could you get a glass of water? Uh-oh. And she said, there she is. She said, yes, I can get you a glass of water. While she was in the bathroom, I thought, I'm going to get my laptop and check my email. So I went and got my laptop.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I'd forgotten about the water. I didn't care about the water at that point. And then she got mad. Griffin, can you just not do nice things for Jeff? Can you recount for Griffin the story in your own words using simple terms? What he just said about her and about getting Miller to school late? Yeah, Griffin doesn't do anything in the morning. She's kind of lazy. Jeff does all the way. I'm not lazy. I have a lot of work to do as a girl.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I didn't say anything about you being lazy by the way. All I said is that the things that we have to do in the morning get Miller up, get addressed, get a teeth brushed, get a make her lunch, make her breakfast, I take a shower, I feed the chickens out the door, you do none of those things from 7.30 to 8. I do all of those for you every day. You know the worst part is you did everything for us this morning and I, you did a lot. And then we still got out the door late because you left and you weren't there to like get us out the door I don't know what what you guys do just like stare at the wall. No, we change our power down. No, I'm serious
Starting point is 00:14:10 Million I both changed three times this morning. Good Lord No, I'm sorry, but it's just harder to be a girl. Okay, like you took a shout. Tell me tell me about your process You took a shower, right then what did you do? I brush my teeth ignoring everything else just the stuff to get you ready I Right then what did you do? I brush my teeth ignoring everything else just the stuff to get you ready I I Ignoring everything else. I wake up. I take a shower. I brush my teeth. I comb my hair. I put my clothes on I do comb my hair. Okay, okay Product in there. Yeah, I got some some stuff Okay, and then I put my clothes on like every other human being what a planet. That's it. That's all I can do okay
Starting point is 00:14:42 You realize Griffin you're training your daughter to be That's it, that's all I got to do. Okay. You realize, Griffin, you're training your daughter to be, make your life incredibly difficult when she's a teenager. Like, you're your, you're all the bad habits early. With a bad hat, what? Oh shit, brand and 2.0, no.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yeah. I just want to point out, we spent the first part of this podcast talking about situations that Brandon can get himself into that he's not familiar with. This is one of those again. Yeah. So tell us more about how she's hurting your daughter. No, I got, I got it. Let me ask you this. Let me you recently started seeing somebody
Starting point is 00:15:10 new, right? I did. Very pretty girl, right? Oh, yeah, she's not. Does she wear makeup? I don't know. Does she shave her legs or armpits? Yes. You realize how much time that takes to shave almost your entire body? And I appreciate that. If you appreciate it, you should have the fuck up. Really? All right, fair to you. It's just hard to be a girl. It takes a lot longer. And OK, so millionaire, maybe not the most efficient people in the morning.
Starting point is 00:15:33 But you know what? I don't even know how I'm an excuse for myself. It's just fucking hard to be a girl. It takes a long time. Like today, I had to decide was I going to pull my hair in a ponytail or was I going to do my hair or was going to shave my legs? Because there's just no time to do both.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And I chose legs. And so I have my hair in a ponytail. This is the decision to make when you're a girl. Yeah. Is that it? Thank you Mrs. Ramsey. We didn't facilitate a divorce like I thought we were going to do it. I was helping with it.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I thought I was helping her with her. I mean guns blazing. It's because she knows there's no defense. Well, apparently, you're better in the's because she knows there's no defense. Well, apparently, you're better in the morning and she's better in the evening, apparently, from going to a little bit of a lot. How is she better in the evening? Well, you guys are lazy.
Starting point is 00:16:13 You guys are lazy. Every other journal she writes is about you getting drunk and passing out at 8 p.m. with the TV on. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, we all have our hobbies. You know, I have to say, I've always, I don't know if you've noticed this before, well, I mean we all have our hobbies You know, I have to say I've always I don't know if you've noticed this before Jeff But I always ask people what they do at home. I'm fascinated by what you guys do at home I have no concept of what you do like you you guys leave your hair at five or five thirty
Starting point is 00:16:36 I I really have no idea what the rest of your day is like you don't want to know And the Ramsey household I can tell you we Deal with being parents until 8 p.m. And the mille goes to bed and I start working on a chief 100 and Griffin paint something Or she puts you to work or she puts me a work of building or painting something what time do you usually go to bed? I went to bed at one last night. So somewhere so that's about average for me about 1 a.m And you're a morning person so you just, what jump out of bed in the morning? Yeah, I get up about 7, 7, 30. It takes me like an hour to wake up.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Really? No, I'm like as soon as he long goes off, I'm up. No problems. Now I have the worst time. I will hit the snooze button for 30 minutes and not realize that I'm doing it. I know any of my people did before the snooze button. I fucking get up.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And I probably got up, I think. I probably don't wake up till after I'm already here at the office. I wake up and I'm at my desk. I'm like, wake up till after I'm already here at the office like I wake up And I'm at my desk. I'm like well, how the fuck did I get here? Really? Yeah, I'm like I'm like I'm just like you know, it's fucking trance sleep and do stand each until then It's great though because you feel responsible at night You're gonna send my alarm for seven then you wake up. You just like snooze button like eight times
Starting point is 00:17:38 Hey Gus what happens at this roll-a-house hold you leave here about 5 30 every day What do you do from 5 30 to pass out normally Normally, I just get drunk and play video games. Is that true? You go home and play video games online. See, I don't do that anymore. It's like after my kids get a bed, which for me is like 830, they usually get a bed. I got a little bit older one.
Starting point is 00:17:55 So maybe it's all nine. And then after that, it's like, between nine and midnight, it kind of like lost hours for me. You just space out? Oh, not just space out, but it's just like, you know, just do random crap and just bleed away those three hours. I could fall asleep at nine if I fall asleep at nine or 10. I wake up an hour and a half later. Like my body thinks I'm doing a nap thing. But if I get a bit of like midnight or 1 a.m. then I just sleep straight through.
Starting point is 00:18:18 It's weird. Yeah. When you get home, Ari, are you kind of burnt out on the computer? I mean, do you spend a lot of time online? I don't have a computer at home anymore. Really? Yeah, I don't have one. I have my iPhone and that's it He spends a lot of time texting me about stuff. I do I and I feel guilty about that I text you guys at night about random stuff. That's totally fun. Yeah, I've done I'm playing video games sometimes watch your TV. I'm probably on a aim talking to people anyway What what happened on my text? What's that? I'm not getting any text. I'm afraid of my get one back
Starting point is 00:18:43 You said we just worked together. We don't hang out. I was complaining about that. I'm convinced Gus had a party at his house for welcoming and I wasn't invited. No, I just had to do that. We had one party before you got hired at my old house. I can never top that, so that's it. Gus was like a party a decade kind of guy
Starting point is 00:19:06 So I mean when it comes to like official parties and things like that just not on the same page Which is like you know like we go to events even GDC isn't awesome this week and we're being invited to parties and it's just like Once you go over here and hang out or play poker over here You know the packs party was a pretty good time though No, the packs party was different though the packs party we threw, which I haven't talked about that yet, but we do that. We rented out a bar and we just invited people, we knew over it, come drink with us at the bar. That's way more R speed than we already did the thing with the clubs and all that stuff with the goddamn music. Yeah, yeah, where you go to club is just ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:19:39 We used to do that every year for South by Southwest too. We would rent out a bar called Bulma Caves and do essentially that packs party in Austin They're like two two three years I think yeah, I think we did it twice twice man Do we do we want to start talking about how we're gonna be doing some more events next year? Do we have that list? We don't we don't have a list. We're working on it's a big list. I guess what we can say for now is that we're Yeah Let's talk about the party Big list I guess what we can say for now is that we're uh Yeah Let's talk about the party My my my wife messages me like I don't think she realized how text message works
Starting point is 00:20:16 She thinks they're like aim and she sends me Text messages that are like one word at a time. She sends me a sentence across about 20 different text. You do that too. Ideas, I guess I do it a little bit. But do you remember when text messages just first came out, aim at a sync to it, but you only had, there wasn't like unlimited text. You only had a certain amount of month. So you had all those assholes who would just like text you one word, because they knew it was going straight to your phone, which is going to charge you a billion dollars. Or am I the only one who knows who know people who don't like me? No, I do that to Robert Kuh whenever he goes especially like out of the country
Starting point is 00:20:46 I think you went on a trip to China one time Robert Kuh is a guy that runs Paniercade. I just send him endless texts. He's like you fuck these guys I'm a fuck a piece and I keep a tally when I send them to him. How much did that email you downloaded? Where was I? You were in France maybe or somewhere. Yeah, it was Australia New Zealand I was in somewhere. I was somewhere with my iPhone and Where was I? You were in France maybe or somewhere? Yeah, it was Australia or New Zealand. I was in somewhere with my iPhone and there was a four-meg PDF attachment and I think I was paying something, some retarded amount of money and these guys, they were approving it.
Starting point is 00:21:18 It was like I think for a calendar or a poster or something. And someone was like, oh I made a small change, here it is. And it's like, oh I don't like this, can you change this? And they would apply and keep the attachment going and it kept going back and forth and my iPhones just checking email $380 from that one email chain we calculated I paid for this PDF going back and forth like 20 times awesome nightmare I Will say this though 18T is pretty cool about that. I hate e AT&T for just about anything in the world
Starting point is 00:21:44 But if you go overseas and you don't have an international plan, they will retroactively add it to your account. Yeah, you know, that's a great way to get a sponsor brand. What's that? AT&T. Oh, sponsor brand. You think sponsors actually listen to the content? Yeah, I don't think that there's really podcasts.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I'm convinced that no one really advertised on podcasts anyway. Yeah, I don't think so either. I don't think think so maybe on the top two or three, you know downloaded and how did Adam Curry get so rich off podcasts He the only guy that made the podcast Adam Corolla. No Adam Curry. I'm curry. He made money off a podcast. He made like a hundred million dollars He had companies that had VC. Yeah, did you guys see the social network? No, I haven't seen it It's really interesting. You know, we, the economics of startup businesses have always been interesting because people get very excited about that VC money,
Starting point is 00:22:31 which is great if, you know, you're the one of the top guys pulling the salary from it. But people get excited. It's like, they got $3 million in funding this round. It's like, yeah, they're awesome. Look at how great this company is. Like, you wouldn't get excited if they phrased it as, this company got a $3 million loan. You know, it's like like yeah, it's not revenue. Yeah, but I don't I mean
Starting point is 00:22:48 I don't think Adam Curry could have made it could have bought that that castle in Ireland purely off of VC money Could he um he had a company that he sold he had like a That's like Mark Cuban Mark Cuban had broadcast dot com and brought the Dallas Mavericks Dallas Mavericks. That's a for Brandon. Throw it on the terminal now. There you go. So he sold broadcast to Yahoo, right before it was one of those timing things where he just got it into the right time
Starting point is 00:23:12 then the dot com came and hit. And he converted all that fake dot com money essentially into a real asset like a sports team. Yeah. And I also heard this cool story about Mark Cuban that he had a bunch of friends that he did a lot of things with and that he just basically bought every house on a cult Assack and gave his friends houses so they could just always hang out together. Yep. I have also heard that story You know what he will. What are you gonna do that for us by the way?
Starting point is 00:23:36 Dude if I make if I make like broadcast comm Dallas Maverick's money, I'm gonna get all new friends So you all know you can hang out with Mark Cuban. I mean, we'll work out as severants. Or something like that. I'll take that. I'll buy the coldest egg and come visit you guys. You'll have to say what they're like. I'm not living next door to Jeff's lawn. I don't think it's fucking a rooster that crows.
Starting point is 00:23:56 I think it's awesome. He has a rooster in a suburban neighborhood. Yeah. There's a lot of people with roosters in our neighborhood. I'm the only one. I would, honestly, if you were my my neighbor I would fucking shoot that rooster. I was in the morning. I just if my dog barks twice I'm out there shutting my dog up.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I would be complaining if I heard them. I think Jeff and I live far in a park where I don't hear the rooster. No one complains though right? No. The Gus is right. There are so many people with chickens and roosters in our neighborhood There's a Facebook group for it And it's a it's a whole thing so people are used to it
Starting point is 00:24:29 There's a lot if it's on Facebook. We had goats in our neighborhood for a while Jeff, if I were to thank you already you I would come over every day and choke your chicken Thanks events. Yeah, so we're gonna you know, we've been kind of Staying away from events for a couple years. We used to do a lot of them. We used to do probably what 20 events a year I'm gonna get derailed And but we had stopped doing it. We only did Sandigo Comic Con and Penny Arcade expo for the past few years But we've decided to start doing to get events again in 2011 I think fortunately for us they can make it new packs
Starting point is 00:25:04 Convention to get events again in 2011. Unfortunately for us, they can't make it new packs convention. Yeah, we're still working on a finalist. I don't know where we'll be exactly, but we will be doing it around the US and potentially some overseas as well. In a city slash country near you. Yeah, seriously. I think one of the sad things about whenever we post about
Starting point is 00:25:17 where we're going to be at, most of the comments are, oh, I wish you were here, I wish you were here. But hopefully, you'll still get those comments. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. We literally got a comment one time saying, oh, we're going to be at Baltimore at Otacon. And somebody wrote us and said, that's on the east side of town. When you guys are going to come to West Baltimore, literally the same city. Yeah. What another time we, uh, someone wrote in asking us to go to Toronto. And we're
Starting point is 00:25:40 like, you're in luck. Our BTO is in like two weeks. We're going to be there. We're going to hang out and be like, yeah, but I live in the suburbs That's kind of far that's downtown's kind of far for me We also had a big you're in another fucking country you asshole We also had a dude sent a nasty email one time that said I'm really sick you guys going everywhere in the world But New York why don't you guys ever come here this sucks and I wrote back I was like do we done six New York events in the last two years and he's like yeah, but I didn't go to those You do want to come to West Baltimore? Have you guys seen the wire? I wrote it back and I was like, dude, we've done six New York events in the last two years and he's like, yeah, but I didn't go to those.
Starting point is 00:26:05 You didn't want to come to West Baltimore? Have you guys seen the wire? What would anyone go to? Why does Baltimore support that show? The anti-tourism. It adds a good question. I guess we can't really talk about it, but we had an idea to shoot this apocalyptic thing in Detroit and it would be great to try to convince the film commission of Michigan to use one of their major cities as a world gone to flames and death. You know the sad thing is Bernie and I are actually from Houston and Robocop too. That's supposed to be said in Detroit. They filmed it in Houston because
Starting point is 00:26:38 Houston kind of shitty. Was it Robocop 2? Robocop 2. I did not know that. I think it was supposed to be Houston supposed to be OCP city or whatever the hell that was now that was a judge dread wasn't it new Detroit wasn't that the corporation in Robocop build their own city definitely Detroit what's that definitely Detroit but it was new Detroit right not old Detroit oh yeah it's completely different yeah there's a new environment crime-ridden hellhole, I guess I've looked at filming locations fourth Ward Houston, Texas. Yeah Fourth Ward. What's the what's the bad one the fifth ward ward? That's what ghetto boys are from yeah with Bushwick Bill
Starting point is 00:27:14 Yeah, he's dead right nope. No bushwick bills alive. Yep. Yeah, boys. Is it a one-to-be a baller? It's a good one a B. A baller. I wish I was a little bit taller No baller shot golly No It's a good one. It's the E.O. Baller. I wish I was a little bit taller. No. Baller, shock, golly, 20 inch boys. No! No, no, no, it's not like that. Oh, no, get a boy's just the office space song. Yes, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:31 They're the office space, people. It's very good. Get a boy's like super hardcore rap that has his soulfelt. Scarface and push- And that made just sounds like easy-e. Yeah. Get a boy's. You know what?
Starting point is 00:27:42 Yeah. Minds playing tricks on me, Dymist is good to be a gangster or a gangster of love. You know, the hits. Good stuff. The usually hang out with Scott. I got a buddy Scott who is way too white and way too suburban to know as much about hardcore gangster rap as he does. He's seriously into it.
Starting point is 00:27:57 He's the reason I know what get a voice is. Oh really? And I know the whole backstory of Bushwickville. Not a, not because you grew up in houston in the fifth world you know houston's a weird city in that everybody who lives in houston lives on the west side of houston there's literally no east side of houston
Starting point is 00:28:15 the the eastern border of houston is essentially downtown and everybody lives to the west yeah yeah and it's like they live in places like kate what is he sugar and he's like pacidina it's oil refineries in the port. Uh, passing is southeast. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just it's all industrial. It's like seems basically where it's like they have a downtown with the commercial area and then they put all the industrial. They put all that yellow
Starting point is 00:28:38 stuff east, the blue stuff central and the green stuff west. Bernie's actually from from a leaf, which is kind of like a ghetto suburb. Still the suburb but yeah it's kind of it became I'd like to think I came from the streets of a leaf you know. I've been to your neighborhood and your childhood house it seemed okay. Yeah I mean it's you know it just changed a lot. Yeah over time and uh but you know this is one of the things it's like you never you never know like in neighborhood that you grow up and it'll be completely different but it got it got a lot more hardcore after I left. Oh really? Yeah. I mean, you know, you were there to hold it down. Yeah. You can look at like the, the notable
Starting point is 00:29:12 alumni from our school and there's like an Emmy winner and then some kind of scientist guy and then like some other kind of artist and then every year after that is rap star, rap star guy who went straight from high school to the NBA Richard Lewis. Yeah, well then destiny's child from your neighborhood I think I think Beyonce went to my high school. Yeah, and but she didn't go to my house For many reasons no mainly because I think she was like four or five years after me, but yeah, it was It I went to a high school. There's really a interesting call El Sik High School in Houston and it had 5,000 kids in high school. What's your mascot? It's a ram nice
Starting point is 00:29:52 And in fact the the reason my church is light blue is because that was my color in my high school that way I wouldn't wait. Huh? They they they have an entry in Wikipedia. I'm looking at them right now Yeah, they have notable alumni notable alumni and you're not in there I'm gonna add you and Wikipedia. I think I think somebody, when I talked about LZ, one time he generally added me before and somebody else removed me. Oh, that's cool shit.
Starting point is 00:30:10 That's totally fine. British Island is actually next to another high school. Yeah, that's where 9,000 kids, yep, within a mile of each other. So it's not even a mile. It's like one block. There's two high schools in the district, and LZIC is right across from Hastings. So your rival high school is literally next door to you.
Starting point is 00:30:27 And they share all the same facilities and all that. We have one stadium and the home games alternate and then when those two schools play each other, it's crazy. There's a gun battle, too, at the stadium. There probably is now. Yeah. Yeah. So when they come to steal your team RAM, they don't have to lock it very far.
Starting point is 00:30:43 No, they don't really. We never had an official RAM. We had a guide in Joey in a round of the port Joey is what we had and uh yeah but they it's always pretty cool like the else in casing games like it's nuts but the really crazy thing is when you go in Texas eighth grade is middle school and ninth grade is high school and they actually have a ninth grade center now where all the ninth graders go but back when I was in school, they had a lottery and they would determine since the schools are next to each other, you're not based on
Starting point is 00:31:09 geography, which one you go to. So they had a lottery and you would be picked for Elsick or Hastings, which was a huge deal. And you, there were all these rules that if you had an older brother who went to the other school or an older sibling, then you could automatically choose to go to that school. Is that how they're like Harry Potter, right? Like the sorting hat? Is that how that works? Oh, no, I've never, they didn't put that.
Starting point is 00:31:29 I think it's more like the bloods and the crypts. Exactly. You get your bandana, you're awesome, you're getting on the right bus, you're gonna get stabbed or whatever. But it was interesting, and it's weird because that's the high school that I went to and that's to be normal, but I realized it's so weird now hearing other people's high school experiences that you wouldn't be on a city block with essentially 10,000 kids from two different high schools in one city block.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Seems like a mistake. It does seem like a mistake, right? Yeah. Well, they corrected that mistake by building a building that connected the two high schools actually. So they're now actually technically connected, really. Yeah, it was just like, the distance between them was literally the size of a soccer field. And that was it.
Starting point is 00:32:07 But we had cool facilities like we had a Anatatorium. I don't know how with 9,000 kids though, like how would you even know if somebody was from your rival school? It's not like you could physically meet every single person in your school. I had 11 or 100 kids in my senior class. And we had a reunion.
Starting point is 00:32:24 I was like, I don't recognize any of the people on the list that are there and I had other stuff to do So I just didn't even go cuz it's like I don't know any people Yeah, I didn't go to my high school to do because I did recognize the people on the list It's like hated hated beat me up beat me up beat me up What you doing working at the chrome factory? Yeah, didn't we determine that the chrome factory went under yes we determined the chrome factory was gone crippled our local economy you think Facebook has hurt the class reunion business I would say yes because I think a lot of people go to the class
Starting point is 00:32:57 reunions purely to see what's up how people aged what they're doing with their lives and if you can get a snapshot of that and not get on a plane to do it then why bother yeah you don't actually have to talk to them and you know who's pregnant who's fat. That's a good one who gained a lot of weight Not you buddy not me You and your bread holding it down lost 16 real 16 I've been by boys and spider didn't know it You developed a parasite you dropped 30 pounds in five days. Fuck you, whatever works. What happened actually is I was dating this girl for about 15 months and we broke up and
Starting point is 00:33:29 I was like holy shit, I gotta get him, I gotta get him to shape if I ever wanna get lady. I'm sure she'll be happy to hear that. It's like now that I'm broken up with you. Now I'm gonna care about my appearances. Yeah, once you get that logged down, you just let it go, right? Yeah, you know, I mean there's all sorts of stages of that and I think every guy goes to that. It's like, well I got a girl or a wife now.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Once you get that shit pregnant, it's like, all right, I'm in the clear. So you're essentially a romantic. I'm not hearing. Once you get that shit pregnant, you're in the clear. You're like a modern serenote. I have the trademark, so it's a, nobody better put that on a t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Hey, just so you know, girl, I love love you and I'm gonna get that shit I got feelings and shit I keep giving carry advice he just doesn't take it I give him good advice well adjusted man let him alone if you take it like you don't have like advice about women or about women spiders no no no I tell no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no You need to be natural. You need to get this all wrong. I'm like a tomb of knowledge. Yeah, it's just that. He's got to look at Google to figure out how to talk to girls. He doesn't interact with them normally. Bullshit, dude. I do.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Pretty well. You have to look up like which one are the girls? One's interest is our girls. Is that your advice to carry? No, I tell you. I get my carry. If they were in a dress, hit that shit. Get it pregnant. As much as you can't, I don't know what pregnant is because I get if they were an address hit that shit Get it pregnant as much as you can't I don't know what pregnant is because I haven't googled that yet But get it right that's the exact same thing about not knowing what an obscure insect is poison or so not that's that's
Starting point is 00:35:15 Bravo Jeff obscure obscure Obscure I like it you're signaling on the one thing as if that was the one thing you didn't know You also don't know what shop back is didn't know what starch was. Yeah, you don't know. You also don't know what a shop vac is. You didn't know what a starch was. You don't know what starch is. Have you seen the way? You don't know what a vice grip is. Have you seen my clothes?
Starting point is 00:35:30 He actually did what I described him what a vice was. What did you say a vice is? I used that shit to break apples. What? Yeah. It's what he would do. It was a game show. It was a kids game show where you had to identify something.
Starting point is 00:35:46 It was a Nickelodeon. I used to watch Nickelodeon nonstop. I didn't go outside. I just watched Nickelodeon nonstop. How on earth? I'm starting to figure out why you don't know what a fucking spider is. Is I sat at home watching Nickelodeon?
Starting point is 00:35:57 I mean, I worry about it with my kids, but because my kids, kids just don't go outside anymore. Nope. They're not allowed to do that. They're not allowed to go ride their bikes around the neighborhood until the 15 now. To be fair, there are spiders outside. They're dangerous. And somebody might try to grab them and put them in an apple breaker.
Starting point is 00:36:13 But the reason why he knows that a vice is something that you can put an apple into and break it is because he grew up on a farm. I lived on a farm for a while. My grandparents had a farm. How do you grow up on a farm. I lived on a farm for a while. My grandparents had a farm. How do you grow up on a farm and not know some of this stuff? I don't know, like I remember getting it. I was getting it. Probably till I was about four or five.
Starting point is 00:36:35 But I still have memories. It's one of those things you go back for holidays too. Four or five is when you learn respire. You know shit. We should have a like, bring in Teddy and like have a Facts of the world face off with Brandon, but he had to leave the farm after five because that's when he's played around up on all the crops. It's how fertilize him.
Starting point is 00:36:54 So you know who's got to be upset more than anybody else about Facebook? In my opinion, I mean, I know we've looked like friends, sir, and my space and all that. But really, classmates.com has got to be like, everyone's like, hey, we've seen Facebook, Facebook, Facebook, and you see people, you see people, you know, from high school, and you share pictures, and all those classmates must be like, yeah, we know. We can't, we can't, we can't, we can't do this for 10, 10 years. They should have charged. I'm looking it up to verify, but didn't classmates just lose like a lawsuit?
Starting point is 00:37:22 I think, yeah, yeah, they had to settle a lawsuit for nine and a half million dollars Because people would get the spam the email from them saying hey classmates are trying to connect with you And they'd sign up go through the process and return out no one was looking for them Facebook does that all the time though Well, that could be bots right on Facebook. Yeah, I think it's those ads. I'm like see you with this person said about you Yeah, so I guess they classmates had to, that was this year in March, have to sell for $9.5 million because of it. 9, that's a weird class action lawsuit amount.
Starting point is 00:37:51 9.5 million dollars. Seems like a single lawsuit. Class action lawsuits are interesting. Did you guys hear about that trader, I mean like stock trader, not like Benedict Arnold trader, and not that you know who that is. But, or the stocks are. Let the record show I was looking at. Brandon when I said that.
Starting point is 00:38:09 That stock trader in France who just got found guilty for illegally trading and he cost this bank $9 billion. And the court ordered him to pay back the $9 billion. He makes like 70 grand a year and they ordered him to pay the nine billion dollars back as a part of his punishment. He's going to jail and he's required to pay to work it off. Does that even make you sad or is it just so ridiculous? It's just so ridiculous. They were interviewing people on the street and people, it was on Imperial State, people on the street in France were like, this is fucking, you gotta be kidding me. Apparently the dude is like a local hero now, he's being vilified and
Starting point is 00:38:43 like the bank is hiding behind him And apparently they had four knowledge and they were having them do it illegally. Oh this nonsense But anyway, what kind of court says okay, yeah, you lost nine million dollars by trading illegally or nine billion pay it back But you do read your point which doesn't matter. Yeah, it's what could possibly happen to me. Yeah, how much do you have to say? Yeah, it's a mid-level trading. I looked it up here. It's, he has to pay $6.7 billion and he makes about $1,200 a month. Yeah. How does the guy make $1,200 a month lose $9 billion?
Starting point is 00:39:16 Well, I think he's working part-time as a computer consultant. He's not doing the stock trading anymore. I think I read the story about this guy. When was the trades that he made? Does it say their guess? I think it was the story about this guy. When was the trades that he made? Does it say their guess? It was 2008. I think it was the guy who was just trading back and forth, and he was losing two or three billion and then making it back the next day. Yeah. And then losing it. And it was just like it was this dolphining effect, essentially, where he was trying to keep up with the big swings and loss. And that in his mind,
Starting point is 00:39:41 had they not shut him down for losing the 9 billion, he would have just made the 9 billion back the next day. You know, it was just a matter of time. And it was they would... They cut him on the bad day. Right. They cut him on a good day, they would have been up tons of money. Well there's no security measures for stopping you from this stuff on the good days, right?
Starting point is 00:40:00 It's only on the bad. Only on the bad days. And that was... And he... Apparently his supervisors knew what he was doing and encouraged it uh... kind of under the table as long as he kept making money he was allowed to do it for a while
Starting point is 00:40:12 they found all this money did they say much money made for the company total like what's the loss nine billion you lost nine billion he was down you know six point seven billion or six points that inside you know i i gotta say any any of those guys though that you know get thrown in jail or anything i'm happy about i really are these suppose the
Starting point is 00:40:30 experts who take money in when everything's going great it's oh yeah we're driving the economy but that when the money disappears like we have no idea this is all voodoo and nobody understands that you know that your money's all gone and you still have to pay us for the privilege of losing your goddamn money and then they get a bailout i mean you have something bad happening you know there's a certain feeling certain reaction what does it feel like to lose nine billion dollars i just like no concept of it yeah i mean it's like it's almost same as talking
Starting point is 00:40:58 about it right i was some guy in the street actually said he was uh... withdrawing money at the end when they interviewed him and they said uh... how do you feel about this and he goes the bank let him play at the end of the interview them and they said uh... what do you feel that the city goes the bank let him play with six point seven billion dollars and they they should let the strong amount for like however long six months and let him play with it but if i go uh... three euros over on my checking account they call me within ten minutes
Starting point is 00:41:20 he's like it's just it's unbelievable yeah it's true yes but uh... new computers or some of our new employees They were the credit companies were like Oh, man, what are you doing? It's like we're servicing our business. We're buying computers They called you they called me at the store and they also had us call in from the store It's just ridiculous for computer purchases. It's just like for a computer company credit cards You've got to be more of a hassle than ever man. It's just like there's one card that we have it's it's it's like piracy where if you if you stole the credit card you could probably use it more easily than if you are than you're
Starting point is 00:41:51 that's in your company really true that's probably true you if you actually did where you know stole someone's identity and had their credit card you could probably get more charge let me get on it using legitimately I mean I don't want to name names, but their name rhymes with Citibank. And we have a mastercard that if we go out of town, which, I mean, when you have a credit card for business, you use it for out of town travel. That's one of the primary uses for it. If we go out of town with it, even if we call them head to time and notify them, we get two charges on it. That's it. And then it's like, nope, that's the same card you told that story about several podcasts ago where Matt called hung up on the lady. I mean, she locked his card and we're in my own target. That was one of the fucking cards.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Best days ever. She was asking for information. He said the target counter. He goes, you know what? I'm just gonna use my other card. That's not a big hassle. I'm gonna use that one and set thanks. He hangs him up and she canceled his card. Yep. It also doesn't help that the people that you talked to on the phone have about as much worldly knowledge as Brandon. I got Mike Hardlocked overseas when I called in to find out why. The guy said, because you bought something
Starting point is 00:42:55 on something called iTunes. Right, that's something called iTunes. Yeah, we've been seeing that crop up lately. I think it's some kind of a fraud thing. iTunes, really. And the dude, he sounded like my age, 25, 30-year-old dude, and 35, even maybe. And I just, I think I had never heard of iTunes.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I have that happen sometimes when I buy stuff on steam. They'll lock it and they'll come and like, we see some suspicious charges. Did you do this, make this purchase on steam? I'll like, yeah. I was like, why is it every time I ask them? Why is it every time I buy something on steam, you all call me to make sure it's real.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Oh, well, we see this is a lot of fraud passes through steam. We want to make sure that these are legitimate charges. That's like one business kind of, is it, what's a libel slander? Yeah, it's like, no, this is totally fine. I'm sure millions of people buy stuff on here every day, just fine. I've been brainwashed, you know the difference between libel and slander. Do you know the difference? Yes, slander is spoken.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I miss conception that people assume if you say something, it's always slander, but it's actually if it's publicized, like if you go on television and say something and it's slander, it's actually called libel. So slander is just if someone says you talk to you and says something that's incorrect. Brian, Brian, and I know this is media stuff. I'm impressed. He knows. He knows his mediast. What's defamation?
Starting point is 00:44:09 I guess you say something that's not necessarily true about someone. Like, I think you say if they did something versus if they were alleged to do something. Is it, or is it intentional to do? It's intentional. I think it's intentional. I'm intentionally trying to undermine the character.
Starting point is 00:44:22 It's more calculated, right? Yes. Like, it's like what we're at a table. But if you were, right? Yes. So it's like premeditated. But if you were actually planning to do it on purpose, it premeditated slanders. That comes up much less. It's a usually news. We had a Bernie and I in a matter.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I'll work to the TV station and it's always the news people that fuck up and get you in trouble. I saw, like I get TSTV over the air at my house. And sometimes I could have flipped to the channels. I'll stop there for a second. And I saw they were doing like a retrospective and I saw you burning in I guess when you were still in college doing an interview really yeah, I'm my biggest interview that I didn't cause I got to interview Adam Sandler and that was a blast we actually had Mark Cuban come to our studio
Starting point is 00:44:57 No, I really yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz you know he he produces a lot of independent movies and documentaries He produced the road he has what is that production going to call it? It's it's something road 9339 road or something like that. I think it's called I may be confusing with the road But it's it's got some kind of number in the studio name But the if the Vigo Mortensen movie that's based on the current McCarthy book. Yeah, he did that. That was really But very good book and a very good movie. I think I got to do a lot of cool interviews And I remember interviewed Dave Foley from kids in the hall and it was basically me being like hey, hey, remember that sketch
Starting point is 00:45:31 I don't know what got up my butt that day, but when I interviewed Adam Sandler I thought I'm just gonna have fun with this and it was when he was He didn't he was in that move someone with Bob Barker. I think it's happy Gilmore Yeah, I said yeah more and I asked him about that. I said um I Said oh, so what's up with that? I go out of myself Bob Barker. I think it's happy Gilmore. Yeah, it's happy Gilmore. And I asked him about that. I said, um, I said, uh, so what's up with that? I go out of myself. Bob Barker kicked your ass in the movie. I go, you can't take out old man and go, what's your problem?
Starting point is 00:45:50 He goes, well, Bernie, let me take some. It's all made up. It's all movie. I go, I don't know what you're talking about. I saw it on screen. Bob Barker kicked the shit out of you. He puts you some and like he gets out of his chair and he goes, okay, he was over satellite. He goes, I'm coming in down there and beat the shit out of you, Bernie. Bernie. He was, he was those drops for promos forever.
Starting point is 00:46:06 He was like off the cuff, funnier than anybody I've ever run into in my entire life, essentially. We used a promo of... Present company exclusive. Yeah. Whatever. We used a promo of Andy Dick grabbing this one of our girls boobs, one of our reporters. Well, is that surprising to you? No.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Do you guys know that Andy Dick lives in a shed behind his ex-wife's house what? really? yes this isn't like liable or slender anything no no he was on her turn a little while ago talking about it he doesn't have anywhere to live so his ex-wife lets him live in the shed behind that house he's a piss bucket
Starting point is 00:46:37 that she doesn't like him to go in the house that sounds like a stunt no no that's any dick allegedly has a drug problem you know it's like day i mean it's a allegedly has a drug problem you know it's like celebrities like any dick they're really hurt by the fact that hollywood squares not around anymore
Starting point is 00:46:54 it's like those guys that are famous there famous for being famous at some point essentially me and he did was on news radio right what was he on the side that like it is already kind of like famous for being in the digital was on something he was on another television show before news radio i think it was like simply susan or one of those and uh... yeah and he was on the bench to the show too but that
Starting point is 00:47:14 nobody saw that and he also he also is on show in tv for briefly briefly but no you're right he's like he's like at this point now he's like the next bruce flange you know that Charles Nelson Riley. Charles Nelson Riley is a great one. Yeah. It's like Charles Nelson Riley, I have no idea what he was famous for, but he was on Hollywood
Starting point is 00:47:31 Square almost every single day. You know, Tom Green, I pulled up Andy Dix thing and here's a picture of him with Tom Green. There you go. And Tom Green is like a guy that people like and like to see, but I guess he's on the web now, what is he doing? He had a podcast for a while, like a talk show podcast I read about. I don't know, I don't know if it went anywhere. I mean, like time green or not.
Starting point is 00:47:50 It's pretty cool to see him go from public access in Canada to, you know, not even having public access anymore. Yeah, yeah. And he'd expect in a lot of things I hadn't heard of. Ben Stiller had a show. Yeah, that's absolutely. Yeah, that's absolutely. Reality Bites.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Ben Stiller had a show on MTV way back in the day It's kind of like when MTV started that period of we're just gonna put anything on the air that's for no money whatsoever Right, I think it was after the state even or maybe right before it Yeah, but so I think when I think it Ben Siller show might have predated the state That is that they had the John Stewart show back then too. Yeah, stuff. Yeah, but that that cast on the Ben Siller show was ridiculous. It was Ben Stiller, Jeanine Garofalo. Bob Odin Kirk and David Cross.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Yeah. Bob Odin Kirk, David Cross and Andy Dick. I don't think David Cross was like one of the main guys, but he was on it with Bob Odin Kirk. I think that's how they got their show on HBO, which is a great show, I definitely like that. There was somebody else kind of big on that show too, I think. I'm pulling it up here.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Ben Steller, Andy Diction, Ingraffalo, Bob Oden Kirk, Sarah Silverman, Wishing Joe Dapetal, Joe Dapetal. That's crazy. Yeah, very cool man. A lot. And then, and then Joe Dapetal went on and made Freaks and Geeks. I never watched Freaks and Geeks. I always heard about it. Same here. Yeah, I never realized how many people, basically, all the people who are famous now came out of Freaks and Geeks. Yeah, I love that show. I've never seen a single episode, people fucking love it. The girl who she went on to ER, she was also in a film from Scooby-Doo and then Jason Segal Seth Road, you can James Franco. A lot of that. Listen to that. I mean, it's just go crazy.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I'm sure I'm forgetting someone, dude. Let me see here and pulling up. It's supposed to be IMDB Change, so I'm looking it up now. Yeah, it takes a little longer for me to do that. I'm sure it's going to be a lot better. I'm sure it's going to be a lot better. I'm sure it's going to be a lot better. I'm sure it's going to be a lot better. I'm sure it's going to be a lot better. I'm sure it's going to be. I'm sure I'm sure for getting someone to See you're pulling up. It's supposed the IMDB change their format. So I'm looking it up now Yeah, it takes a little longer for me to find you
Starting point is 00:49:30 You have the IMDB app Yeah, I think it's awesome. It's great. It's funny when you go to IMDB on your phone It says hey, hey check ass come choose the app. Yeah, they all do that. I don't like that. You know, it's um Should we talk about this? We're in the process of wrapping up production on the first version of our RuchertiTap. And so we're in beta testing right now, and that should be out very soon, and that is for iPhone devices,
Starting point is 00:49:56 or more specific. iOS devices. iOS devices. And would you like to tell them what the RuchertiTap is? Why don't you tell them what the RuchertiTap is? It's a mobile version of our community site. That is correct. Poor Ben, Ben's been a great job with this app, but every time he submits a new version,
Starting point is 00:50:08 it's always, all right, this one's going live, this one's for test, and then it's notes, notes, notes, notes, and then another email. That's the way it works though. That's the way, yeah. That's the way software production works, you know, because we'll get a ton of back and then we get now to the point where we have people from the community site testing it. Yeah, we have the moment.
Starting point is 00:50:24 We need to have as many different devices tested as possible. I think, you know, between all of us here in the office, we only have like, you know, 3GSs and iPhone 4s, you know, I found a guy who still had the original edge iPhone to iPads, you know, different configurations, different operating systems. It will not work on the iPad, at least the one that we're testing. It doesn't, what happens? It just sells you, we can't copy it over. Hey, that'd be great if, you know, you've replied and submitted that. Well,. It doesn't what happens. It just sells you, we can't copy it over. Hey, that'd be great if you've replied and submitted that.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Well, report when we asked for notes. I assumed it was intentional. He felt bad. He felt bad. He didn't know that it didn't work. Yeah, I thought it was, I mean, there's a lot of, there's a lot of apps that are, I don't know if it was an issue of resolution that it would be difficult to put that for me.
Starting point is 00:51:01 No, we need to test it on the iPad. I've been dying to test it on the iPad. It doesn't work. Great, thank you. I appreciate that. I on the iPad. I've been dying to test on the iPad. It doesn't work great. Thank you. I appreciate that I appreciate the feedback overall note Doesn't work on iPad. What do you mean doesn't work? Your iTunes will not copy it over to the iPad. It will consistently give you a error message. Did you take your iPad? It should tell you that what did you set up your provisioning on your iPad? No, okay Did not do that.
Starting point is 00:51:25 OK. So your instinct of not turning that in was a good instinct. Just tell you now. Whenever you do beta testing for iPhone devices or anything like that, you have to set up another file that lets you run. It's like almost like mini jail breaking your phone in a way, Gus, right?
Starting point is 00:51:42 Well, yeah, it allows that one piece of an authorized software to run, essentially. Right. Because it's not in the app store yet, you're still testing it. Well, couldn't you just do that? Couldn't people send out the codes and send out the software to essentially just let you install apps on a non-jail-broken device? Yeah, but you need to be an iPhone.
Starting point is 00:51:59 It would revoke your ability to do that if you started doing it. I see. So they pull you sensitively, right? The developer system as well right okay sorry I remember I am convinced that Apple can hear that and then take away our ability to be listening on our iPhones right now
Starting point is 00:52:12 we're not we would have a mom but they're listening we try and expand make sure everyone in the company was testing it and I remember asking Jack I was like oh are you testing the iPhone app he's like no no no I copied it didn't work and I was like oh hey Ben you know Jack's having problems and Ben's like Jack never sent me anything. Like, he never sent me any information on his phone. Never sent me the code.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Well, guys, I usually have to walk around to everyone's desk instead of their provisioning on their mobile device. Well, that's why I got professional beta testers from our community to test it out for him. Good day, yo. Thank you, community. So those that their information should be going out today, they should be in their hands later today. All three of you own an iPad,
Starting point is 00:52:48 right? Yes. Yes. You I gave you Brandon. I gave you a gift of an iPad. Bernie did give me an iPad. It was a special moment. It was a crunch gift that we gave from the vice many nights of 3 a.m. You know, I've worked with Bernie now for 12 years and he's never given me a single thing. Mm. Ever. What about that? I have signed every paycheck. I've been there for 13 years though. That never given me a single thing ever. What about that? I have signed every paycheck. Maybe, I have 13 years though. That's a better gift. So now the iPad has gotten to the point where it is the fastest growing, most quickly adopted
Starting point is 00:53:15 electronic device that is not a phone in the history of the world. Uh-huh. And deservedly so. Okay, it's an ask. So you've used it for a while. Is it worth it? Absolutely. Absolutely. The great thing about it is that we all talk shit about it whenever it was first announced
Starting point is 00:53:29 I'm not we all I didn't I never talk shit about it. Well, I Apolta I think most of the people in the company talk shit about it It was like a little bit underwhelming when you saw it, but when you actually hold it and you play around with it I got it's pretty cool. I could go back and listen to it But I think my official take was I don't know I'm not sold But I I'll check it out because I'm a believer there's been other things that they've shown them like and they were great, right Fuck you guys someone said that I'm sure a lot of people know that I think the general consensus in the no Gus talk tons I should about it the press to the press was talking about yeah, he did the press was like this is a dud
Starting point is 00:53:58 This is horribly received when they made the announcement nobody gave a crap about it But then it came out and sure enough it was a huge hit. Remember if you hated the name iPad, because they were making like Maxi pad jokes and stuff. Yeah, very mature people. I thought it was totally, that seemed like a perfect name. Yeah, it always seemed like a perfect name. I slayed, I think sounded a little bit better. You can't say I slayed because it spells is late. And they were already in development for so long in the iPad, like, remember it was three
Starting point is 00:54:21 different of the, I one thing I hate about following Apple products is the way you digest that information like you have to watch those friggin seminars I ironically it's just like the 19th or thing everyone gathered rooms staring at them you know yeah staring at big brother in a black turtle neck telling you what's what and uh yeah so the couldn't name it isolate because it was is late there you go there you go there you go one name anything that's built in pun there you go you Hey, speaking of Apple and Apple products, how are you enjoying your Apple TV that you got the new one? What a great segue. So I got an Apple TV and that thing is awesome.
Starting point is 00:54:52 It's about the size of a hockey puck. Yeah. It has a power cord and it has an HDMI cord that goes into it. And I basically just plug it into the little monitor that I have for my Xbox upstairs. And I mean, it's great. I just found out too that you're supposed to download the remote app to your iPhone. And if you're on the same network as your ITV,
Starting point is 00:55:12 you can just control it from your iPhone. Totally awesome. But it's great, because I can stream Netflix. Carrie wanted me to check to see if I could do Hulu. So I need to do that. But I need to stream Netflix a bunch of other streaming services. And then the most important thing is that
Starting point is 00:55:25 You just connect to your computer's library on the same network and you can just stream anything You know your picture is you can stream music you can stream you know TV shows that I watch on my TV shows I think with the the next OS update for the iPad if you're watching a video on your iPad you can reroute the video out to your Apple TV Oh, let's go let me ask you a question. Go ahead, ask me a question. Because this is going to be a big deal to me. Can you have multiple iTunes libraries connected to your Apple TV at the same time? I'm going to get you can select different libraries. Okay, because like I say I have like the wire on my laptop and then I have you know
Starting point is 00:56:04 freaks and geeks on my desktop. It probably won't show you one list of everything. You'll probably have to select the library separately. As long as I can do that, I'm fine with that too. Are they two different accounts? I mean, are you paying two different credit cards? Two different, are you? No, it's the same account.
Starting point is 00:56:16 But what do you download something as well with? Just turn on home sharing on your library and it's available. And what I discovered when I downloaded this remote app, I'm pretty sure I haven't tested it yet, that you can share the library from your iPhone to it. That's crazy. So it's like, you just carry that around with you. The remote app in itself, even before this was awesome.
Starting point is 00:56:35 That's like at parties and stuff, I would just play my music list and like, fast-worth your songs and stuff, all my phone while I was walking around the party. It's really cool. Yeah, it's the future. It is the future. And it's here. And it's a little future proof too. I think the future. It is the future and it's here and it's a little future
Starting point is 00:56:46 Pro, too. I think I guess what is the new wireless network? Is it N? Yeah, I mean, I don't think none of our computers are N But I mean any MacBook Pro bought in the last two years should be should I have N? Yeah, my whole house is in really even the Xbox is In and PCs are right here like a little man. Yeah, we have an internet work set up in here fuck me Yeah, I see my PCs you can get stuff you want you have to wait for them to integrate it like right now We're dying to get us be three And it's just a pain in the ass that we can't get you in the three. Yeah, Gus talking for long I think that's more than Intel thing. I mean Apple Apple doesn't make them mother codes here comes the defense well Yes, and no, I mean Intel
Starting point is 00:57:29 Well, yes and no. I mean Intel wants to push their own technology, of course, but I mean Apple could just use another vendor for their motherboard if they wanted to. People like Intel. Didn't we read Narcola where Mac leaves an enormous amount of money on the table because they won't put the Intel stickers on their computers? Oh, really? I read that. They won't put the marketing, you know, Intel inside. They won't put those stickers on their computers. So I mean, it depends on how you want to look at it they're either paying to do that by not taking the money from intel or taking the discount it's hundreds of millions of dollars i never i never even thought about that crazy i'm sure it's compensated in the
Starting point is 00:57:54 uh... price of a mac they passed that cost on the consumer and the uh... did what so what's the other word apple just got pounded with a patent lawsuit i don't know the details about that I don't know what's going on They have to pay like six hundred million dollars. I want to say that was like 300 million But it's a enormous amount of money. I feel like there's at least one patent story a month It might it might it might be two different six hundred twenty five million dollar judgment patent suit over cover flow spotlight
Starting point is 00:58:21 Time machine Cover flow spotlight and time machine. Yeah, wow those are all great products. Those are all great things on those dudes who I'm using the shit out of time machine as we speak I probably switch to Mac because of time machine time machines is the thing on the Mac where You can just hit a button and it just backs up your computer entirely and then just sit there in the background at any time You make a single change it backs it up And so I know it sounds like oh, you know, it just backs it up But when you can actually then pull up time machine and go to like I want to go to my computer Three weeks ago at noon and then you can literally go into that file system and take stuff out It's like I need to see this file five revisions ago
Starting point is 00:59:01 Yeah, you know before I made those changes that ultimately fucked me up to where I am now. Bernie, you went from your laptop to an iMac, right? And it was just basically, yeah, it over. Is it the exact same all your applications installed? Yeah, I got a new iMac, and it switched from a laptop to an iMac, and when I got the new iMac, it said, do you want to set up this laptop
Starting point is 00:59:17 or this iMac from a time machine? I said, yeah, use my laptops time machine, and it had all my files. I mean, it was like, imagine getting a brand new computer and within 20 minutes, it's exactly the way you want it to be. Yeah, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:59:29 It's just a 20 minute party for the start. Yeah, everything's installed. All the applications, all your preferences are set. Awesome. I did have to reactivate, of course, Photoshop and final draft. I wish I could show a piece of software. Fucking Adobe, man.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Dude, I've had to do it twice in the last two weeks. Yes, I've been having some Adobe headaches for the activation. They chastised him the other day on the phone. They yelled at me yesterday. They're not deactivating. They're like, sir, if you're going to keep calling in like this, because you please just deactivate the program and then you won't have to go through this process.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Nope, I can't. I can't, because I paid $1200 for a piece of software. So guess what? You have a job. Yeah. Gus, have you gone to the licensing website? No, I have not. Oh God. We bought CS5 Kind of the test where all in CS4 still and it took three days for them to post a serial number
Starting point is 01:00:16 Awesome. Really? Three days Let me answer question if Today You could pay a lifetime subscription to... Let's have a good partner. Like Photoshop. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Lifetime subscription to Photoshop. You can have every version that will never hassle you about it. I mean, your central to your serial number would be your... Social Security number. Let's say... Something maybe a little more secure than that. Oh, sure. What would you pay?
Starting point is 01:00:43 Lifetime subscription. $2, that. Oh, sure. What would you pay? Lifetime subscription. $2,500? Free updates forever. I would. Luckily, I don't have to use the Adobe products very much. So I would not ahead it for me. I would do it for Final Cut, maybe. For Final Cut?
Starting point is 01:00:55 Final Cut is a video editing software. Final Cut is not a problem for us, though. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I pay a lot. I use Photoshop quite a bit, too, though. Lifetime subscriptions are interesting, because lifetime is your lifetime, lifetime, the company's lifetime,
Starting point is 01:01:07 and then changing cultures, we might not use Photoshop in a couple of years because there might be video shop. Or the premier team moves over to Photoshop? Yeah, like if you were a... Well, that's kind of... That's pretty funny. It's a little misery. If premier is their video, I think software that just,
Starting point is 01:01:24 I mean, it's just hurt us It's a little misery. It's a premier is their video and it's off or that just I mean It's just hurt us painfully the last couple of months like if you were the guy who Bet on who like had this option in 1996 and paid for the lifetime subscription of Corel draw You do fucking this right now. It's like I'll have a Perfect for the rest of the world. Yeah, I'm gonna throw all my money in all this Did you see that a left for dead two is also available for the Mac now? Yes, that's cool. But left for dead one isn't, right? They haven't released left for dead one.
Starting point is 01:01:49 They said they're hoping to have that out later this month. The fuck? Valve seems to be on the offensive. They are. It's Xbox Live. I mean, and they have a weird thing to you because they're a very popular child on Xbox Live. So they set the price, you know, according to them,
Starting point is 01:02:02 it's because Microsoft makes them, they set the price for their DLC super expensive, and then they set the price for left-for-dead to and left-for-dead on the PC on Steam. It's cost you less to buy it today than the DLC costs on Xbox Live. That's why I read on Kotaku at least. Yeah, I guess you can buy left-for-dead to with a single licensed price at $679 and a 4-pack price at $2039? Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, and then the DLC is $7. Yeah, speaking of that, that reminds me of something else.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Have you ever noticed that in iTunes, there's absolutely no incentive to buy the season versus buying individual shows? Yeah, that's true. Why is that? I don't know, that's a good question. I've never seen a bundle deal. Do you I changed is just not capable of doing it? I don't think that's they I think they're capable of doing anything They want to they don't have to they must not they just must not see a benefit But you know what's like you really want to click 20 times over the course of six months when you click once Yeah, well, it's like just why not get people to realize instead of well I think I'm gonna like to so I'll get the first two episodes
Starting point is 01:03:04 Mm-hmm. Let's incentive to hit the buy the season button. Maybe you may see some episodes on TV and you miss some others. Let me do this. There's a lot. Netflix is a example of. There's a lot of things I think I'm going to watch in their entirety and I now don't. Yeah. Like, I love the wire. I haven't seen them all yet. Same here, but I probably would have gone through and bought them all. I discovered a new show that's very funny. That did not look funny to me at all, but I gave it a shot and it's awesome. Have you guys seen running wild yet? It's a new Will Arnett carry Russell. The promo is everything about that show just looks terrible No, I agree. I was really bored one night and so I thought I like Will Arnett enough. Maybe he'll carry the show
Starting point is 01:03:40 It's really funny. It's a lot like a rest of development. I think I would watch anything with David Gross Yeah, he's he's the funniest beings. He's barely in it, but He is in it and he's very funny in it and I thought it's weird because you know He's got to show the increasingly poor decisions of Todd Margaret that just came out and it's a David Cross show featuring Will on that And then this is a will on that show featuring David Cross. You've never even heard of it other show you just mentioned Yeah, it's a first episode came out last week, I think and it's also got spike jones in it that one no kidding Yeah, but it's very funny both of them are funny, but I think winning wilds better So you're gonna say that someone should watch a TV show right now American TV show. What would you recommend?
Starting point is 01:04:14 It's always something to fill it off. Yeah, okay. This season is tremendous I don't know I guess I guess the wire but that's kind of old I don't think I've got any new I got into any shows drama I don't know why there's been off the air. What about you, Dr. I don't think I've got any new, I got into any niche shows. Drama. But I don't. I've been off the air for like three years now. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's been a long time.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Who watched that show during its broadcast run. Everyone I know watched after was long gone. It was on the air the same time as the sopranos. Let me say the second season of Parks and Recreation. I saw the first episode of the first season that thought it was pretty bad. The second season is pretty good. I don't think I, I don't, I don't, I can't think of a drama, honestly.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Mad Men. Mad Men for sure. Well, I've never seen it. Yeah, I'm gonna, I tell you what, I'm gonna watch it because you've been recommending it and I always bugged you about always sunny. So I owe you a madman. This season of red men's were really good. And you know, they're really catching into if you go to the, was it top TV shows and iTunes? All seasons starting to happen. Mad Men has a problem on iTunes, though, when you download one episode. Oh, God. It downloads the HD version, the SD version, and then they have a behind the scenes of Man-Man for every episode, HD version. So one episode is four downloads. You should be able to pick in your settings what version you want.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Yes. Thank you. I don't understand that. Well, in your storage space, in your preferences, it says, do you want to check for new downloads? And you say no, but every time it keeps doing it, you don't realize it until you run out of space in your hard driving, like, what the fuck is this? And you're downloading 50 files. But he's also, he's also saying that I just want the HD version. Yeah. I get HD. Why would I want SD? Never, you know, I had to waste that bandwidth and then immediately delete
Starting point is 01:05:38 it. It's dumb. But I would say you would, you would take it for mobile. You'd put an SD version on your iPhone instead of an HD version. I'm fucking retarded like that. I cannot buy an SD version. I wouldn't I would rather stream Mobile anyway. I don't you I don't watch TV on my iPhone that much or what I do. I just stream through Hulu plus I'm trying to give it to my wife to give up cable But she can't give up her cable news channels So you guys see that guy from CNN lost his job because he uh Sanchez called the yeah Rick Sanchez I think his name is, because he called John store a bigot
Starting point is 01:06:07 on a radio program on POTUS, on the show. He called it a bigot. Yeah, and they asked for clarification, he was like, oh, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, he clarified by saying John store it was raised in New Jersey by a school teacher mom and a scientist dad, and he's biased towards whites and Jews, and upper middle class people,
Starting point is 01:06:23 so CNN that day let them go He also said that CNN as well as other networks are controlled by the Jews He did say that. He did say that. That's always a winner. Yeah, so he said the media is controlled by the Jews and was immediately fired We went up to you out of the water No, it's funny. It's funny that happened because there was somebody else on my Twitter feed who essentially did the same thing in the same day And was like yeah, my name is a no last name is a bird or goldstein, so I'll never work in Hollywood Oh, wow, that's uh, that's kind of interesting tweets So and then later the days of having a really shitty day today
Starting point is 01:07:00 So understand what you pick a fight with John Stewart a lot of people give him credit for taking down crossfire I'm gonna crossfire for you guys again. I don't understand why you pick a fight with John Stewart a lot of people give him credit for taking down crossfire I'm a crossfire for years ago. I don't understand why you pick if I was Jewish controlled media Why is it how are they now like we're not saying how did that start that just part of the Zionist conspiracy right? Is it that just an off-shed of the Zionism running the world and all that stuff? Yeah, underground bunkers Gold stockpiles. Yeah, I mean, clothing hooves. If you, if you, she's at least, if you do control the world, why would you have the Holocaust?
Starting point is 01:07:32 Like, why would you make that? Is that just a really crazy diversion from you or is that, or did it say it happened since then? Probably I think they say it happened since then. So you went from what hell will come back? Yeah, no kidding, right? You went from the damn near genocide to Secretly controlling the entire fucking planet
Starting point is 01:07:48 Not in the in the span of 70 years is that I mean it's like you got Jews controlling the world and the expose winning the world series Near each other hey, so did you know that Microsoft is discounting Xbox live subscriptions before before they raise the price Oh, it's awesome. I think I already signed up. Yeah, if you renew now, you can get two years and 1600 points for $84. Two years of gold. 1600 points. $84. Can you apply that to the family plan when that launches in November? How does that work? Because, no, that is interesting because you and I are definitely switching to the family plan Bernie because we're a family family plan gonna be for Xbox live gamer tags for
Starting point is 01:08:28 $99 a year. I think it's pretty good. All right. I'm gonna go outside the box here a little bit There was something was disappointed by in reach marketing and I kind of kept my mouth shut about it But I feel like I have to say something about this. I'm point I was disappointed by the fact. Yeah, I know I really thought that the reach console Did not come with the legendary edition of the game like that if I wanted the flaming head or one of those benefits I would have to buy the reach console get a heroic edition of the game and then go out and buy $150 version of the legendary collection. Would you paid $70 more for that Xbox if it came with it? Yes, what I have paid $70 more for that Xbox. Yeah, cuz I paid 150 to go out by the legendary collection
Starting point is 01:09:02 paid $70 more dollars for that Xbox. Yeah, because I paid 150 to go out by the legendary collection. Oh, my good point. You know, but I know I'm in that Uber fan category, you know, and I just don't know why they just do it. I get used to be a lot of people who are in that Uber fan category when it comes to Halo. I'm sure if you would offer the skew,
Starting point is 01:09:15 people would have bought it. For sure. Yeah. You're going to have two skews of the Halo Reach console standard and then, you know, legendary. Yeah, I guess that why make a 200 when you can make a 350? Yeah, but I don't think there's I don't think there was in that level of thought Yeah, I don't know that they're had to have been and it's not something you just throw together I mean it's like a major I'm sure I'm sure it make it makes sense on some level that I don't see Well, I'm sure they probably thought of themselves who's gonna pay the 70 extra bucks. They might have yeah
Starting point is 01:09:42 That's already expensive enough. They lose more money in the end because lots of people might be surprised I mean, you know companies that size they think on a lot higher level than than we do, you know I mean they do yeah tens of millions of people and how to move those kinds of units and When it comes to those I mean even the people who finished stuff on legendary It's just it's lower percentages, you know, that's a really good point. That's a really good point didn't we Isn't it like an obscenely low percentage of people that actually finish campaign on legendary most games period Yeah, yeah, most of the like if you go through when you play on reach you can browse through people service record And you can see how you know there at least you couldn't halo three
Starting point is 01:10:17 Yeah, you can see what they'd finished it on reach also I don't know whatever I'm like randomly matched up with people I always look at you did they finish campaign what did they finish it on service records are kind of fucked up though like I have beat and I've been every halo game on legendary and it doesn't show me record me is beating reach or a halo three on legendary shows me as heroic because I did some of it single player and some of it co-op and so it doesn't recognize that as being one complete legendary run all that now on reach they've broken that out you can see what your status is on Solo and Co-op.
Starting point is 01:10:47 The same problem with ODST. I was pretty sure, I was pretty sure on Halo 3 they had it broken out too, but you're saying you had a heroic for each. Like if you go and you look for Halo 3 and your Reach thing, it'll say that I've only beaten it on heroic, and it's not true of being an unlegendary. The big thing I think with the Reach console was, how the hell would you deliver a console
Starting point is 01:11:06 and that enormous legendary? That could have been the whole thing right there, right? I mean, that's like, yeah, that's fucking huge. And I'm thinking about it just my perspective. I don't really, honestly, I'm not a tooly kind of a guy. I don't really care much about the statue. I think it's cool, but I gave my statue to Monty because he loves having that stuff and that's gonna give another one to Jack.
Starting point is 01:11:24 But I'm more interested in the digital asset. And that was the flaming head that you can have for multiplayer. I was more interested in that. So when you say what I pay 70 bucks, most of 70 bucks is going for that statue, right? And then Halsey Journal. The Halsey Journal is awesome. And the digital thing, you know what it means? So it's like what do you include in the packaging? And it's like, you've had the reach console and that statue in one package. I mean, you have to have a palette. Monty is so in love with that Halsey journal that he keeps it around like it's his journal. Like he doesn't, I always see it in his hand like he's walking around, he's got it in his
Starting point is 01:11:53 hand, or it's sitting next to him at the desk. That's like, I don't know. He must just read it constantly. He might think he wrote it. At this point, yeah. It's great to see that extra stuff. I think Gus bought the whole series of lost and didn't it come with the journal of someone who was on the black rock? Yeah, it came with some like first notes diary and stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:12 It's also a hidden disc in that box set that they didn't tell you about. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I don't know if I've showed it, I guess I didn't show it to you. Like when you open up the top of the box set andossed on the bottom of the top is a map of the island And I was like, oh, that's cool, but it's weird how it's kind of raised I just kind of set it down and I looked through the rest of the rest of the box set And there was like a little toy onkin the box set And I was like, that's kind of cool and I kind of twisted it and I realized the onkin came apart and Inside the onk was like a little scroll with like buttons you can press on your remote And I was like, that's weird.
Starting point is 01:12:45 And I looked at the map again and I touched it. And I was like, this is really weird that it's not flushed with the rest of the box. So I spun the map and it spun and it like popped off. And then behind the map there was another disc with more bonus features. And then if you're watching the disc and you enter the code that was in the onks
Starting point is 01:13:00 it unlocks another menu option that you don't see unless you put that code in. All right, that's all, that's all very cool. It was awesome. It was very clever. That was a fun and fun experience to just go. Oh, yes, and it's in, it's very true to the universe and it was, it was, it was, it was really cool. He came in the morning, the morning after he discovered that like, he was on fire.
Starting point is 01:13:19 He was so excited. Yeah. He was, he was like giddy. He was, he was shown at the mat and I was really really cool in Revelation if you leave the main menu running Grif, well pop out of the screen. So, um, not as cool. Not as cool. That's the last thing.
Starting point is 01:13:33 We have tons of Easter eggs. We don't have like physical menu, capturing Easter eggs. That's pretty cool. That's the next level. The next level will take it to. You know, that's definitely like when they make a custom onc that you can unscrew. You know, that's great if you're making you know 10 million units You're gonna deal on those as I can we need 12
Starting point is 01:13:52 How much will that cost? All right, which price start wrapping things up here before too long? Got a full day ahead of us. There was a few more store items. I don't know if we talked about that there was um a couple new shirts and a poster Maybe what we got the cabooses and Supposter that seems to be doing very well. Yeah, um They take it easy shirt I was a tons of Griff merchandise this season. Mm-hmm protect me cone. I was born a thing You know, this is this is your your great season after you you took off from production. There you go
Starting point is 01:14:19 Yeah, I got to focus all my time on acting Who's got all the weekly challenges so far on reach? You have I have them all so far, I think I don't I don't have all of them now No, I intentionally skipped one so I wouldn't feel the Overwhelming me. Oh wait was last week to beat a legendary Do level do a level and legend. I'm sure it's the other. Daily challenges are so great. They've gotten kind of nutty lately though.
Starting point is 01:14:49 There was one that was, I think, that's seven multi-kills in one match of multiplayer recently. You have to do that in Rumble Pit. You can't really do that anywhere else. Yeah. It couldn't be firefight matchmaking. I mean, you know what? I'm going from memory here and that's not a good way to do that.
Starting point is 01:15:03 You know, it's crazy. Or are we revenue? We're revenue. We're revenue. We're revenue. rumble pit you can't really do that anywhere else yeah it couldn't be firefight matchmaking I you know what I'm going from memory here and that's not a good way to do that you know it's crazy or are we revenue have there have there been any scoring challenges yet not to my knowledge I have not seen any scoring that's interesting you bring that up because scoring was such a big part of Halo 3 yeah and it was a lot of fun like you and I went through and got all those scoring achievements together right and had more fun doing that than I did just playing through the campaign like there's something really satisfying about that scoring stuff scoring weird too because it's like scoring achievements together and had more fun doing that than I did just playing through the campaign. Like there's something really satisfying about that scoring stuff.
Starting point is 01:15:27 It's going weird too because it's like I'm not sure if I should ever turn it on just why wouldn't you just always turn it on? Yeah I keep it on constantly. Is it just to give you less information when you're playing? Uh, yeah I don't know. It's just it's cool to see. It's, I mean it gives you indicators like you got a headshot and it's like that. It's important but I don't think it's really clear how it affects it.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Like does it count as, like if it turned on scoring it says it'll you lose your progress in the level That kind of thing when you shoot when you change skulls. Oh, yeah Well, I don't know can I send it real quick? Or am I gonna get cut off and editing ask? With the way Bungie does their stuff and a lot of other games give you all the extra content and challenges and stuff Do you see that more in American games than Japanese? Because I saw a few weeks ago there was like a Japanese developer that was criticizing the Japanese industry for not innovating and not kind of keeping up with the ingenuity of American studios. I recently read that the main difference between American gamers and Japanese gamers
Starting point is 01:16:18 is that Japanese gamers don't want to play games socially. That's a private experience, more so, and that it's not like, there's more integrated in the culture, but they're not interested in the competitive parts of it as much as we are here. And really, all those things just another way of having competition, aren't achievements really just a way to have competition in single player? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:16:38 We are a very competitive society. Social. And social. In that sense. But yeah, like, that's interesting. Like, final fantasy is you can play all the way through every final Fantasy spend the equivalent of a month of your life playing through all those games who eat two or three months of your life At least nobody would know it just you just talk to them about it
Starting point is 01:16:56 You know how much do you think is the communicator and the fact that you can actually hear people and talk shit and get frustrated? I think it's a different component altogether. Did it dissuades me from playing online sometimes? I would say I haven't run into any of that in reach yet. No, right? Well, did you use your tone settings? Yeah, my profile stuff. Yeah, I did that too.
Starting point is 01:17:15 That seems to be working off. It's work and fantastic. I don't run across any dickheads at all. That's great. I intentionally put, I want to play with people who are quiet, because I don't ever use my headset. And I almost never put into game with people with a headset. You know where if you don't use a headset you get fucked is in left for dead. If you show up in a
Starting point is 01:17:29 random match like in a pregame lobby and you don't have a headset connected they will boot you every time. As well as you can't even play. You're right that you have to communicate. But it's impossible to even get into a game with that headset. I mean you don't it's not only the fact that you don't want to guy in your team you can't hear because you look you look back and he's got a hunter on him He's been like yeah, yeah, five minutes now. It's the same way like if I'm playing firefight I don't want to play with someone who doesn't have a headset Yeah, firefight matchmaking. Yeah, I definitely feel like that's a more co-op experience
Starting point is 01:17:57 You know, I feel like 10% of PlayStation users use a headset because it's fucking frustrating and difficult to actually get it working I can't see the dynamic between the two systems. I got that headset. It's a it's a Bluetooth headset Yeah, and I got a plug-in charging at home I just I don't think I ever put it on I think you and I are in the same boat. I have that headset too I've never fucking used it I've got to plug in charge of two online. I'm gonna do all this nope nope What's PS2 got in front of it? They got the move. PS3. PS3 got in front of it They had the move come out and that didn't seem to be is it already out? It's not yeah, it came out like two weeks ago. Are you serious now?
Starting point is 01:18:31 Really you're the PS3 fanboy. You didn't even know it was out? No, I didn't know I was out and getting an order right now You're walking into the game so buy it today. I think they just kind of took the Wii technology and made it a lot better But I don't think that's gonna really exciting anybody. I did read that it's significantly better than the Wii technology. I mean, the technology just works a lot better. What? Like motion capture. Here's the problem. And the problem we'll probably see
Starting point is 01:18:51 with the connect for a while is that there's no core games for that technology yet. And people that core gamers just aren't realistically aren't going to care about the next Wii Fit version for the Xbox or for the PS3 or the archery game or any of that shit. This doesn't appeal to me. So the move came out September 17th. It's been almost a whole month.
Starting point is 01:19:13 I, that's crazy. I rejoiced in Kataku all day every day as a part of my job for Chima Hunter and I had no idea. How long to lay Japanese sex game with a Kinect? Well, hopefully very soon. Okay. With the connect? Oh, connect from Xbox.
Starting point is 01:19:28 You know, this is nothing to do is Xbox isn't really hit in Japan the way it is here. Yeah, you know Like PS3 having moved might be one of the biggest stories in Japan right now. That's a good point It could be huge over there. There's one. No, it. Yeah. Hey, do we want to we got off of events? Do we want to talk about those events like read over the calendar real quick? I Said we should we should wait till we have some more solid information Okay, we should let people know that we will be out there and we'll have a full list soon as soon as we could talk to those people The first one is what's starting about March of next year. Yeah, February and February looks like we'll be in Australia We'll go March through November. I think on events if you know of a good convention in the UK We would love to know about it. If you know of a good convention in the UK,
Starting point is 01:20:05 we would love to know about it because we have not found a good, right? Yes, we have. We can't find a good, right? Let's just go to Gennie knows house. And if we can't find one, we'll run one and gavs the backyard. Okay, well let's wrap this up for sure. Okay, all right, well thanks for listening.
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