Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #83

Episode Date: October 13, 2010

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twisted metal, streaming now, only on peacock. I'm going to par-papa-papa, and then I'll add fuck. How's your adjustment going there Joel? Sorry. I can't hear at all. I'm sorry. I'm done. I don't know why we have headphones. I'm hearing a lot of back noise. I can't hear anything back noise.

How are you doing? Well, I'm done. A lot of suspicious wonderful start to the podcast. I didn't really start it. Is that going to count? Yeah, that's going to count. Is there no duovers in that case? That was the whole song?

Yeah. That's a little jam. Gus only goes back on his own technical screw-ups. Hey, Gus. Unless I forget to hit recording, which case... Because it sounds pretty static. Technical problem. The technical problem was you did not hit record. the technical problem was a lack of a mouse click

Hey Gus it's Jeff. How's it going Jeff? Hey, I got a question for you Do you remember when you watched my house for me and you had sex in every crevice? How can I forget? Do you when was that it was like in December? So like a almost a year ago almost you about ten months ago exactly Griffin and I found apparently after you did that, we bought you a thank you gift, but we got drunk and spilled wine on it. And completely forgot about it until like last week we noticed when we were cleaning up,

we got you a $50 gift certificate to a porn store. Nice. That's awesome. And then I have the money. And then why not it, right? It is not like, no, it's, I don't have have that is wine on it, right? It is. No, it's I don't think else I should be concerned about. Currently, do not have red semen. So, okay. You know, we should get you a gift of a black light. There you go. So I like on Craigslist, Gus was you did have sex everywhere in his house. Yeah. That's for you.

It's at the lingerie store right by our house nice i was kind of hoping uh... it would be that point store kind of near the new office but i support for near the house uh... bigger can be choosers that's true but i don't don't most gift certificates have to be used within a certain amount of time does that one has entirely possible expiration date on it does not have an expiration date on it and it's but it is a sorry i spilled wine on your card i'm gonna have a great time explaining this at the point so i like listen

i know this is the certificate looks like it really stained, but it's a wine I swear. I would bet they're not gonna bat an eyelash. You have to think they won't even raise an eyebrow. Hey Joel, you're a financial guy. Oh. So how much money are expired gift cards worth to these companies? It's funny because they can't count them in their quarters till like After they're after they've either expired or they've been cashed in well essentially incurred debt, right?

Right. It's on their books as a debt boy. They companies love those gift cards Yeah, when they because they will they get their money up front and then there's no guarantee that the consumer will get anything for them Right, and they book it as a debt and then all of a sudden they get to put it back on their books as earnings essentially, right? Right, right. And they don't longer owe the debt to the customers. We read a frustrating article a couple, not a couple of years ago at this point, Bernie, that was about best by specifically and how much money they made. Do you remember how much it was? It was so frustrating. It was frustrating. I don't understand. It was like, it was like millions and millions of dollars. No, the same job. Yeah, I think I want to say one quarter because it was the fourth quarter. Maybe when holidays when people give those gift cards a lot, they were, I think it was

$60 million. I want to say pull that number straight out of my ass, but that's why I remember 60 million. But I just don't understand if you are, if you're running a circuit city, how you let best by undue you, I just don't understand. Like if you ever go to a circuit city, know that work there. I do get pretty obvious But you how how hard is it to fix that is it that hard? Have you never had the experience? Were you walked into circuit city and as soon as you stepped foot off the path under the red carpet? There were like nine vultures trying to get you to buy a television and

Why don't they look at best buy oh? Let's just do that one time at circuit city they They convinced me that it was good back when DVD players first came out The comments me actually buy an open box DVD player. I would save a ton of money I was like fine. I'll buy the fucking open box DVD player. I got it home. There's no power cord in there So I had to go back and I had to buy a power cord I had to go back to the same dude at the circuit city. I was like you knew there was no power cord in there He's like oh yeah, I figured you had one at home. You could use what is really power cord.

Wow. So that was probably fuck those probably like 10 or 11 years ago. And I don't think I ever bought anything at the circuit city after that. I think the video at circuit city was they worked on commission, right? Yeah, they were they all worked on commission. So that's always the thing that leads to upset customers essentially. Yeah. Gavin once told me he worked at a kind of an upscale grocery store. Waitrose. Yeah, in the UK. Waitrose. And he said when he was here in America,

he was amazed at the customer service levels that you got with people talking to you, because they were trained not to speak to customers. Don't in over in England? Yeah. God, let's move there. Yeah, don't talk to the customers. Don't bother them.

Don't ask them how this day is. That's great. They also don't ask if they need help. They had specific phrases they couldn't say because they sounded to American. You know, he couldn't say have a nice day. Have a nice day. That's the was too, was not British.

He's like, you were telling people what to do. And people didn't like that. You were telling them to have a nice day. Do you guys know, like, it's a very guy thing. Like when you're in Home Depot and you're say looking for a wall anchor and you've walked up the same aisle like five or six times, how long does it take you to go and find somebody and ask them to help you?

That's the thing, right? I've noticed it in places where you truly do need the help. You're not getting it. Like, I would never ask for help. At Home Depot? At Home Depot? Specifically Home Depot, I won't ask for it. No way. I don't want to. I don't want to amasculate myself in

some board dude who gets paid $10 an hour to be better than me. Well, I'll tell you what, that is the thing because a lot of times they don't really know either and it just turns into a big waste of time. But come on, they've got like, you go to the wall hangers and they've got like 50 feet of wall hangers. Dude, it's just, I get, I'm so bad about it that I went to Home Depot a couple months

ago, the one by our house, and I needed some chain, because I was like, chaining something up. Nothing weird would have done when we were there. I have a, I have a, let's think that gift card back. I have a fence, I have a fence that doesn't have a lock on it, so I put a chain around it and padlocked it. It was after my house got broken into it. And they have this machine that said that cuts the chain

Like you stick the chain in you go through a process and you cut it right and I was looking at it And I was like I could probably figure this out and I looked at the guys over there that were working I was like man, I really don't want those guys to cut my chain for me And there's all these signs say do not attempt to use by yourself You know your chain and I was like, yeah, fuck it. I could do this right So I figured it out and it was actually pretty satisfying and I cut the chain I was really proud of myself and then I go up to the counter and let it goes Where's the chain tag and I go?

I don't know what that is and she goes you didn't cut this yourself did you and I was like Yes, ma'am. I didn't see any one that she goes hold on she hits a button She's like can I get chains up front or some whatever the fucking the Section of Home Depot is and the guy has to come over and he has to take the chain from and he's like cut the chain yourself On come on and we had to go back and measure it and you had to write out a tag and take me all the way back over and the whole time It was just like look like I was the biggest piece of shit on the point. They they have the same policy with the big ladders Do that I can already tell you I was at the top of the big ladder and Boy did I get yelled at and it has signs a little don't don't you don't customer?

You're not capable of using a lab. Yeah, they'll use a lab I read an article a couple months ago about this guy an inventor who invented like a new kind of Saw that was like apparently super safe and it was used for cutting large pieces of wood and he was trying to sell them to Home Depot Saying listen, you can really cut down an accident with your employees You know, it's really hard to hurt yourself with the saw so they ordered like two or three as a test Then they told him the test was unsuccessful and they didn't want to buy anymore and essentially they just stole his idea and made their own version of that Saw and installed it in every home people across the country. Did he suit them and want several million dollars good for him Good for him. It's like what the fuck? Well, that's a thing It's like it's like if you come up with a really great idea

You know a lot of times it's for, you know, I knew a small venture capital company that had a very, very great idea, but really you got to sell that sort of technology to Johnson & Johnson. So it's like, how do you go to Johnson & Johnson, sell them the idea and not have them just go, oh, okay, and then just have them steal it from you.

Yeah, apparently a home dupe will have to pay him $25 million. Wow, I'm good for him. It's actually had to do it that way and have to fight in court for it. Yeah. And not know if he was going to get their not. OK, it's done, that. If he had bought, it says that it's home Depot had just bought the devices out right in

the first place, it would have only cost him $4 million. That's usually the case because I just read about the finance minister in Ireland, gave the bank $4.2 billion to bail them out, but that day they could have bought the bank for $830 million. We're in weird times. Which weird times. But it seems to be, the bailout thing seems to have worked, I mean, in the sense that things are starting to turn back around. The only thing that doesn't seem to be catching up is unemployment. Joel, you're a financial guy. Do you agree with that assessment?

That's very true. I don't know. The thing is, I have to limit myself to what I have to say. So what you're saying about it, I'll bore the hell out of everybody. It'll be like a guess with World War Grand. We'll have to recategorize the podcast, this financial podcast. Like maybe we'll get on the top. They don't have fun to see it. Like the Fed approved like QE2, like more bailout,

yesterday or whatever, and then the same day, they launched QE33 which is the big boat that's weird all uh... all reports are that also all reports are that tarpa was a success the government is already made back the majority of the money that they loaned out the

now we have a certain case and out directly which i said you can go that you can go back to this podcast and i told you i said i said that I told you exactly which ones are gonna be successful Like with the car companies like the government will make money on this. Oh, yeah They did I guarantee you but that's not the danger the danger is looking forward in the amount of debt In the amount of real estate that they've taken off the market well, you also have to look at it Uh a bunch they did a bunch of smart people did a bunch of analysis and determined that had the bailout not taking place Unemployment would be around 16 or 17% right now. No, that's the thing.

I think I agree. I think it was the right move because you had to do it. You had to do it, but now you got to stop. You can only push that button a certain amount of time. I couldn't agree with you more. Yeah, I mean, you want to wean people off of that bail out money. You got to. I mean, look at the dollar is just like, you know, correening lower.

Yeah. And in other countries, they're scrambling to like lower the value of their currency It's like everything is just I don't know. Okay kids. You could tell your parents to stop listening to the podcast So bored by a conversation I helped start. I know so let me go here when you guys burp Your ears shut off for like a second. Yeah, you don't know how loud you burp. Do you ever have that? Yeah, of course some of my burps do that But I don't feel like all of my burps do that. I feel like it's a defense mechanism I feel my head has against my throat. I feel like the bigger burps I have my ears don't shut off So it makes me like extra proud What does that mean? Like if I burp quietly, I feel like my ears turn off

But if I burp really loud then my ears don't turn well maybe you're cutting off the whatever it is Maybe you're over maybe I'm blowing out my defense mechanism Yeah, there's three burps, right? There's the burp that you, there's the burp that you hear. There's the burp that the other person hears and in the burp and reality is different. So that's a weird thing.

I have to think about that. Yeah, this is a way better conversation. What reality is, there besides you and the other people in the room. Exactly. Some alternate. Have on Cliter. Well, you're thinking about Home Depot though,

as I've said, is like Jeff had this chain thing. Whenever I'm at a station like the chain cutting station or at the circular saw station, there's a button there that says, push this button for assistance if you need help. Like, you want to cut your window blinds or something. When you push that button, you get the wire. A guy will only push that button one time because you push that button and it announces across the entire store custom reading to help a chain cutting station. And you're sitting there like a dope like the... They must have made fun of you.

They must have done that. They'll just only push it once and they'll never push it again. Yeah. And the other thing too, they have a policy come depot where they... I think they have to walk you to whatever you ask about. Like, I just want to know one aisle has this. Oh god, I hate that. It's just like, where is the... I don't know, the fucking drill bits.. Oh come on. Let's go. No, no, no, just tell me the number

I can see no no, they got a like fucking lead you by the hand. No, it's true They don't tell you they don't tell you and it's like you're walking on the way and you try and get the information out of them You know, this was like from your seven It's like they started an escort mission in World of Warcraft I have another embarrassing home depot so if you'd like to hear it, also at the Home Depot by our house, go for it. I, you know how you like, you go to a place enough,

and if you own a house, you go to Home Depot a lot, unfortunately, and you start to recognize the employees because you see them around all the time, right? Right. Well, I was just one dude who I would see all the time at Home Depot, so I went up to him, there's a couple of months ago, and I said, hey, you work here, right?

And I was, no, I don't work here. And I was like, are you sure? And he's like, I'm pretty sure I don't work here. Why would you think I work here? And I was like, oh, I see you here all the time. I was like, why would you be seeing me? What do you, why would you remember me? And I was like, I really don't know.

I'm sorry, I just, I thought you, every time I come to Home Depot, you're here. And he's like, how did you notice that? And I'm like, I just thought you were an employee. I recognized you, cashed here too. And it was very awkward, and i just kind of backed away i thought i was gonna attack me was you always wearing like orange i mean why would you think that i just

swear to god every time i'd ever been to the home people i saw that guy and i'm like that i must work here it's fucking sucked he probably said he probably thought i was coming on the one or something i was like no he's like why why are you remembering me i'm like i don't know so what so this like the moment you realize it's a stalker. He was creeped out by it, but He is there all the time in my defense Home Depot is one of those places now too that has those And I see him everywhere. They have those self checkout stations for you know

Yeah, you don't get a cashier or you get the one cashier for every four customers who are royally screwing up I know I don't know how cashier or you get the one cashier for every four customers who are royally screened up. I don't know how I feel about that those things. The thing that annoys me about that is home people in particular will only have the self-checkout lines open and no regular checkout lines open. That's true. Unless you go all the way down to the intellect, the contractor check out. Well, that's like a lot of places now. They have self-checkout. There's five of those open and there's one regular one open. Yeah, and I feel like there are maybe three people in Austin who know how to use

the self-checkout line efficiently, everyone else is there like, what's it? What do I scan? I don't know what to hit. They're like swiping their credit card before they even start scanning anything. One of them's always at a order. Well, the thing is sometimes, or a lot of the times, you enter into that situation where the dude in front of you, you're like, how freaking incompetent is the dude in front of me? This is ridiculous. And then blah, blah, blah. And then you get up there and you realize, oh, the seven on the keypad doesn't work. Yeah, and now you're that dude.

And you see the dude behind you looking at you, now I'll near that guy. I feel like I ran into that a lot though. It self checkouts in ATMs. It's like two things, self check out ATMs. It's like the two things you do deal with all the time. And in particular, I know it jails laughing at it. I fucking hate that best by.

When they have to walk you through how to use the credit card terminal It's a game. Yeah, it's like I have to I always try to use it faster than they can tell me how to use it It's like it's all information. Okay. They're hit correct I'm like, errr like you're scrapped your card to sign the thing. You know you know what the things break down right grocery stores Because if you're the kind of person like I am who buys alcohol with every single purchase. Exactly. Then it ends up taking way longer because then they have to like, it's like, hold, let's make sure you're old enough and then somebody has to walk over very forwardly and check your ID and go, buy more wine today, huh?

And I like, yes. Don't spill this on any gifts or tifickets. Yeah. They're like, you know, you were just here yesterday buying wine. If you buy six at a time, you get a discount. Why do you remember me? I didn't know that. I did that yesterday about six bottles of wine.

There you go, 20% off. It's for you. It's soft, and that's what I say. What a weird thing to bulk purchase for people. It's like, why not cigarettes, too. It's like, you know, if you buy a carton, we'll give you massive discount on it. You do, don't you get it discounted if you buy a carton?

Yeah, but that's from the manufacturer. That's not from the store. It's encouraging you to buy more. And that's pretty universal around like every grocery store at least in taxes If you buy six bottles of wine you get 20% I guess and the some grocery stores You can have like that little cardboard six packs for the wine bottles that you can like put me a bag They gave me a bag man a material and I got to keep the bag And then like now I look at this empty bag

This image you want to rebuild it goes in it exactly is a marketing tools brilliant Why you everything okay? Why you buying six bottles of wine? What's going on? They're wrong with that. Are you having a party? You're not telling us about it? It's a secret party. Yeah, there you go. So it was I the only one I know we missed this last week was I the only one who noticed that Cataclysm has a really state finally December 6 December 7th a date that'll live in infamy. Yeah,, speaking of that, did you see Wow just hit 12 million subscribers? Yeah, I heard about that. That's crazy. So what about the what about the Taliban thing? Right? The EA no longer has a Taliban in the game before we go far away. Can I tell a quick story about ATM? Sure.

Do it. This is a close-up ever. Well, I'll explain that for it. But I was one time. I was at 7-11. Remember the one where I passed the one that was on Guadalupe? Yes, so the 7-11. It's that 7-11. remember the one where I'd camp us the one that was on Guadalupe? Yes, so the 7-11, except 7-11 had that room where you go to use the ATM? Yes, which is like the mug in your room, it always does like. Right, I need to work through the game to see it. No escaping, you can't escape, it's like closed off. And I was waiting behind a guy who I walked up, he's sitting there staring at the ATM machine. You see those people with that blank look at the checkout, self-check out of the ATM, and he's just looking at it and looking at it. finally go um are you using the ATM and he goes oh oh sorry

uh... you see uh... no no go ahead go ahead so i go i go up and i put my card in it's as please insert card so it sucks in my ATM card goes makes a click noise and it says please insert card and so i hit cancel cancel cancel and I go I go this thing ate my card the guy goes Isn't that like a common scan where a scam where people will put a card reader in there or whatever and it will steal your No, it's a scanner on top of the scanner Yeah, so that when you swipe the card it reads it and then there's always always to a little camera that watches your pin being punched in two So they say you should cover with your hand while you do your pin or just look for cameras or wait Take a little pinhole. I mean you can't tell a camera these days. Yeah, no, I feel like you could see

the Extra reader on top of the original reader It I feel like I know there are some that look pretty good But most of them that I see online are pretty obvious, but for those people who appeared to be using the ATM for the first time You know, they're always in line in front of you. They probably have no chance of noticing. Yeah, well fuck them I'm gonna concerned about me. Yeah. Yeah, there's definitely nothing as like worse as your car getting Shoot up and spit out. I mean that is I'd take a week year life gone. Yeah tracking nothing down and get a new one. One time when we went to E3 I think it's the first E3 we went to as well maybe it's back in O4 so like the day I was going I was

going to the airport to get on the plane and leave I stopped at the ATM on Riverside to get some cash you know got my cash got my car started driving to the airport and I was like I left my fucking card at the ATM. I went back it was gone and I was like I left my fucking card at the ATM I went back it was gone. I was like I'm about to get on a fucking plane and fly halfway across the country And I just lost my fucking debit card. I had to call a bank and they were like oh, yeah Most likely the ATM just just ate it when the card sits there for more than a minute It'll just suck it in that beeping noise it makes if you leave it now if you left it on I one time I walked up to an ATM It is when we were just swipe you don't leave your card in it.

And the guy in front of me walked away, I walked up to the ATM and says, would you like another transaction, yes or no? So it's like, I have access to this guy's bank account, if you want to do it. I called the guy back, but I wonder how many times that's happened to people where they just walk away from an ATM not realizing.

I always wait for that splash screen to come back up. I feel like I have to wait like an extra five seconds or I'm just staring, it's like, okay, it's done. It's like when you draw the line on your check so that people can't feel another numbers. Yeah. Yeah. You don't trust anybody. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt now. Uh, back to Metal of Honor. Oh, fuck. What were you asking Joel? I heard that there's ATM machines, a Metal of Honor. Yeah. And no, like the Taliban was taken out, right? May last minute. I'm mad about that. I beat that game. Just beat that game already. And uh, are we allowed

to talk about? Yeah. So this week, uh, it comes out this week. Uh, that game, just beat that game already. And are we allowed to talk about? Yeah, it's been a while. So this week, it comes out this week. And you know, sometimes we get games in early. So for a few hundred and I beat that game. And the thing that's frustrating to me is they had the Taliban in and I thought EA had a really good explanation for why there was you could play as a Taliban a multiplayer and they were essentially in every game of cowboys and Indians. There's a good guy the cowboy typically typically, and bad guy, the Indians.

When you're playing World War II, somebody has to be the Nazis, right? They have to be bad guys. I don't like the characterization of Indians as bad guys, but I'm sorry. I'm just saying, I'm thinking of, oh, like, I'm not like... You know they're the bad guys because they're the ones that open the casinos. Yeah, like, if I can put it in perspective for you, like Americans are some Mexicans, right? Somebody has to be the Mexicanican nobody wants to be right uh...

but um... so they uh... the military in their infinite wisdom decided to ban the game on all a fees military installations which is like the the mall in the army or in the military it's called a fees it's uh... interesting i don't know what it stands for. Something exchange.

But that's where you can go by like DVD players to really cheap and shit. It's like a target for the army. And... So yeah, it's the PX. That's what it is. Public exchange. And so... EA buckled under the pressure and decided to pull the Taliban out. They basically renamed them to a opposing force. And so the military said, hey, we appreciate that you were still not going to carry your game. And I played the game. And that game is a five hour blow job to the United States military. It is so pro American that I was ready to get like a pickup truck and put an American flag in

the back of it and join the army all over again. It's like, I hate the fucking Taliban. Like I didn't like him before. Now, I hate him. Dude, until you're in metal of honor, fighting, I also understand why Afghanistan is so hard to fight in, and the Russians lost. It's fucking terrible in those mountains, dude. It's cold, and it's bitter, and there's no line of sight.

It's cold. And there's a dude with a fucking RPG behind every rock in the entire country. It's terrible. So it's fucking terrible. You understand Rambo 3 a lot more? I do. Man, I hate the Taliban. And that game is so pro-American even at the end like after you beat the game

There's like a it's like they weren't like a novel of thanks to the armed forces where it's like you know This game is dedicated to every single person who's ever you know Served in the military You it was it was I felt it felt it was good and I just like if anybody in the army in the higher up had played that game military blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah up in it and the story by the way the single player story is I think way better than model warfare too. I hear the multiplayer experience is not as immersive. I mean I wanted to play it before now I know now I really want to know. Well why wouldn't it be pro-American it's made by a company who compares Indians to Nazi. So did you really make the statement about Catboy's Indians and Americans and Nazis. Yeah, somebody made it. Probably, yeah, maybe not the best semantical. So I understand it's not politically correct. So, I can't wait to hear the apology. I mean, nah, they made that

come a week ago. I feel like there was some controversy about that, but I don't feel like it wasn't as big as I thought. I feel like it was blown out of proportion, I should say. Yeah. Like the people who were complaining about it were complaining very loudly, but I don't feel like it wasn't as big as I thought I feel like it was blown out of proportion I should say yeah like the people were complaining about it were complaining very loudly But I don't feel like there were too many people complaining about it the people that were complaining to you We're complaining because they they don't want to put this in kids hands This was like concern mothers and stuff and they did a study and determined that the average age of a person who plays metal Honor is like 35 well also right A little longer is for mature game, which means you have to be 17 and above

to buy it right away. Right. So you can't flood world, do you live it? Hey, I'm just saying that ESRB, they do a good job of policing that. They do. If a parent buys it and gives it to their kid, then the responsibility is on them. The kid's not going to go into the store and buy it again. On a rare, I have gotten carted by games still.

And there's got to be a balance. And I think that, you know, they're doing everything they can do within reason. I don't believe all those average age studies. I don't. You don't? I don't believe that. I think there's some crazy math going on there. Like I think there's enough ages of marketing.

Do you think it's a marketing thing? Well, if you average ages, like it depends on how they do. They say the average age of the person, are they waiting it by the number of people? Or it's like 17 year olds play it, and 80 year olds play it. So the average age is Well in the end, you know, it's like it's probably in your interest to serve the demographic of people that have money Yeah, well, I mean the other's will income is something else. So I mean even if it's not you know, it's not that's certainly how you want to have it perceived or you Could be like the drunk tank podcast is in terms of the demographic of 95% of people live at home

unmarried. Yeah. In basements. That should be one of the questions. Do you live a bum ground or a below ground? Are you like sleigh stacked? Are you? Are you?

Yes or no? Or do you live under a bridge? When you look at a window, do you have to look up to the window? Are there bars on the window? Do you see other people's feet that you wouldn't have that that that that become a thing like that people live in the basement i'm never met anybody who lived in a basement i think it was all of her insurely right

wasn't yeah they had to be living in the basement that was always a new someone who lived in the basement from back in drink gamers on the forum there was someone who uh... who live in the basement is that true yeah there's not a lot of bait there's not a lot of basements in Austin right? No, Texas. No, Texas is not a baseman So I mean if you're in Texas, you got a basement. You're committed. So that's a weird thing Yeah, Texas is really no basements at all if you're really nervous

You got to be really industrious as well. You don't build your own basement. You don't really have a basement You have an area under your house that has a door It's walled in gotta be surrounded by has a door. Just because of this. How would you define a basement? It's walled in. It's going to be surrounded by everything under a house with four walls. It's going to be surrounded by four walls or three walls.

Is it a room down there? Yeah, I got a room down there with a washer and a dryer. I would define a basement. The clarification I would make is you have a dirt floor down there. Oh, you have a dirt floor? I have a half of my house's a dirt floor. It's like a crawl space and the other half is where the laundry room is. Is that a dirt floor?

No, it's concrete. Oh, okay. Does that concrete no it's concrete okay okay I think this means you know it's like it's like my basement is like a self-contained thing it's like a a room under the house yes like they're just out like any other room it's a concrete floor it's a basement yeah I also think it's a lot and that when it rains that makes it a basement yeah yeah I would go there in a tornado but I would say a basement would qualify a house where the basement has a staircase inside the house that leads to the basement That makes sense like you you access the basement for within the house or through like those doors that open up next to the house And you go down do you have those doors like seller doors? I don't have a seller. You don't have a basement

How can I have a seller with that seller doors? You can tell that this group of people have the I'll put it this way on like city inspectors The MLS categorized my house as having a basement when I bought it so okay that's owner's tubsion my basement a derri your basement's very nice Jeff I should I should I should have made photo Jeff for thinking that the internet basement dweller is based on LeVernin Shirley somehow

I'm just saying that's the first time I ever remember seeing somebody live below ground where you see like the feet walking by it's only the intro to the to the show every week not that I watch it still. Oh I do the laverna surely ran. Four or five years? I'd say like four or five years yeah. Well it depends if you count the cagney and lacy as just as simply the second part. Oh man.

Let's try that from that. Was laverna virtually part of maritalin more with a what they based in Minneapolis as well i don't know that they were in the winter when milwaki that walkie that's what it is is what they were they worked in the selectory there was a spin-off to i think it's to it was yeah

is there were fonsies friends yeah that's right that is right to be finally a little garage i think something something something spun off of Leverning Shirley to the Jesus. I just looked it up Leverning Shirley ran for eight seasons. Yeah, yeah, that is that's crazy I Sons indication must have known it went longer than a hundred episodes There I think there was like a linear squeaky show after the There was a linear squeegee show.

I wonder what the longest string of spin offs is, where like happy day spins off of Vernon Shirley. And Joni loves Cha-chi. I think he loves. I mean the longest, I think the thing with the most spin offs was, or to be like the most connected string of spin. It was all in the family. Because the Jefferson's came off that, and a bunch of stuff came off Jefferson's.

Really? Yeah, that could be. Jefferson's were a spin off of all in the family. And what was a spin off of that? I don't know. I think the longest running one though. Not here? That was like, that was cheers and frasier. Yeah.

Right, I'm not talking about like two together. I'm talking about like the most, like a show that spun off another show, that spun off a show, that's on it. For our international viewers who might not be familiar with American television, we have what they're called spin offs where you have a popular show. You used to be more popular when there's only three or four television networks But you get a popular show and then we take some of the characters in the show and literally give them their own show

Like I did that with friends and Joey. Yeah, people outside of America all know friends, right? It's like the most popular show in the world. That's out of America. Right and friends spun off a terrible show called Joey Which lasted two seasons? You know a lot of in the last decade a lot of very popular american tv is based on british tv that's not all friends was based on coupling uh... the office we grow out was based off of british is america's got talent also based on like british that's how it that seems like that's how yeah that's just

that's just a direct port the x factors based off the x factor did you ever see um... did you ever see, um, did you ever see, Jeff, you were a fairly big American Idol fan back in the day, right? Sure, man. I'm all about it. Did you guys ever see World Idol when they got all the winners from the pop idol contest

around the world and had a minute of a contest? Yeah, then that like ugly Irish dude win. I think it's a Norwegian dude. Maybe that was it. And his name is Kurt. Oh. Kurt Mielsen, I think. He was good. Dude, he can sing mono like you would not believe.

Better than mono. Probably better than mono. It's amazing. It's amazing. I'm gonna look it up on YouTube so we can play it. I think the guy also didn't speak English, right? He's a plumber. That's when I learned on World Idol that apparently when you sing,

you don't sing with an accent. Nobody has an accent when they sing. And I didn't know that. Because you're like a long-ade vows or whatever? I have no idea. I have no idea. It's a weird phenomenon that I have no musical training whatsoever. So I never knew that.

So you're talking about playing Medal of Honor. Yeah. I was thinking about I was going through my compare games the other day because I was seeing if you were still trying to catch up to me on completed games and seeing how Mass Effect has DLC and now Left or Dead has DLC. And suddenly you don't have nearly as many complete games. No, I don't.

But I think they fixed that where if you don't download the DLC, it still counts as a complete game for you. It's true. So that's cool. I read in the new update that's coming out, like the new update, I don't know what to call it, the in-ex-ex-ex-e or whatever. Connect to one essentially? Yeah, they're going to have the one thing that annoys me about the dashboard right now is

it shows you your first completed games, but only shows you the top 12 and you don't have the ability to drill down and see all of them. What is top 12? The most 12 reasons. The most recent. They're gonna fix that so that you can have a more immersive experience where you can go in and like look at all the games you've got. Well, I guess they forgot who's like run the podcast for over a year now.

Gus set our microphones up on a table that is essentially like a drum. Yeah, and I don I know why you did that I haven't had time to do anything in my office It also doesn't have a I I one square inch of flat space on it. It's like super bowed I think I stole that table from Monty. I think you had a bunch of bottles on it and I took it Yeah, the thing about this place is we need more surfaces I went out and bought a bunch of little folding tables and we need to get you a better table here Gus. Yeah, I go

It's a temporary solution. We're gonna build something out. So I was not on the bottom bunch of little folding tables and we need to get you a better table here, Gus. Yeah, it's a temporary solution. We're gonna build something out. So I was looking at the compare games and I was noticing all the games that I have not played. First of all, are you talking about Connect? Are you gonna buy Connect? Yeah, absolutely. Are you gonna buy Connect?

I don't know. I'm the fence, I don't know. It's got achievements also. I'm gonna buy a Windows 7 phone, even though I have an iPhone and I'm not gonna use it as a phone, I'm just gonna use it to play games. games really yeah, it's really interesting. I'm gonna buy connect I'm not gonna buy a Windows phone because I don't want I don't want another thing in my pockets That's a big thing with me if I can find a way to get rid of my curkeys

I'm this close to getting rid of my curkeys. I'll be so happy. I'll just have a phone and a credit card That's it. Okay, here's all the games that I haven't played because I was looking at games that are upcoming And I thought oh I should play Dead Rising 2 because I haven't I have missed the following games. I missed Dead Space I miss Rainbow Six Vegas. I miss Gears of War 2 never even loaded years. Oh, fantastic game really? Yeah, it's great. I loved it. I said I've seems like a lot of people who played Gears of War 1 felt like there was a drop-off I didn't play Gears of War 1. I love Yeah, I played Gears of War 1 Yeah, I played Geersward as one as well

But it had that big gap in the plot line and the love it that made no sense Oh, I still couldn't tell you what I played both of them I couldn't tell you what they're about but they're fun to play multiplayer and it's also weird too that now Gersward two I keep reading they're gonna have 31 times experience like you know how Halo has double XP weekends. Oh, are they really they They have three more times X. This is what's like happening with the Fed. When is that happening? It's like XP Bayley. I'm saying inflation.

When is that happening? When is that happening? Because I need that. It's around October 31st. That's why they're doing the Chinese have their XP controlled. Is it almost impossible to get the level 100 in that game to get that achievement?

So China is buying a government war player. They're buying up their XP debt. I mean, that's just a broken system. If you go to 31 times XP, that's essentially like, if you find a way to cheat and grind. It's silly, like you did in Halo for your splash damage achievement. I didn't play BioShock 2, and I want to play BioShock Infinite,

is that what it's called? Yeah, you can buy Skid BioShock 2. I never played Splinter Cell. The new one. That was really good. I never played Alan Wake. Never played Crackdown 2. I played the Hell out of Crackdown.

I never even loaded Crackdown 2. Same game. I haven't played Dead Rising 2 yet, which is amazing. That's my ultimate favorite game. I've never even talked about Dead Rising 2 yet on the podcast. That's our ultimate. That's your second ultimate favorite game. Well, it's probably actually now.

It's Halo, then the Leopard Dead series, and then Dead Rising. But Dead Rising is such a unique game. Especially for a long time. I can't. I couldn't. I could. I was at a launch time. I came up eight months after the Xbox. But it was a original launch. It was original when it came out. It was great. Any game where it's like there's monsters and no matter where you are in the game, there's one behind you. I wouldn't say it's a rid of the hole in behind. I was a... Well, I was a judge of marijuana. There's one behind you. I was definitely hitting that. I am. I'm from a video game. I'm a real cook of in behind. I was a well with the Judge Mara might this one. Definitely. I am for a video game.

I wrote a official list of him playing Metal Mario yet. My hand played Mafia 2. Hand played the Sanskrit 2. Hand played just cause to him play Resident Evil 5. Those are all games that I played the hell out of in previous so you're not a gamer. I guess not anymore. I can't be there's too many game games now. It's it's like I have not even played any of the Mass Effect 2 DLC and I love Mass Effect 2. That's one of my favorite games. I think you know something I thought statistically There was gonna be less games in 2010 and there were in 2009 but companies were dumping more money into big franchises

I have I have the opposite because I hadn't beat left for I haven't beat Mass Effect 2 yet like I still haven't completed it. I'm at the part where Everybody gets kidnapped or whatever, but I've played every DLC. I think I have all the DLC achievements. Did you finish Mass Effect too? Yeah, several times. Dead Rising 2 is phenomenal. You should really pick that one up, Bernie.

I guess that's what I'll do next. Did you play the first one? Oh yeah. Is it much better than the first one? I think it's much better than the first one. Really? Yeah, I think they fixed a lot of the annoyances I I had with the first one the only problem with Dead Rising 2 is the fucking loading screens You you get low screens constantly. Yeah, that's the worst. I hear multiplayer's pretty borked

You got to adore need a little yeah, um, it's it's bad It's stalling to the hard drive seems to help a bit, but it's still really really I'm gonna let you know you're never gonna play any of those games because even if you wanted to You're getting you're getting further for the behind mental of honors out this week next week. Follow out new Vegas comes out next week after that Fable 3 next week after that. Always do people three time already next week after that. Assassin's Creed Star Wars Force on leash 2 new James Bond game. It's not it's it's endless. Wow. I can't believe I can't believe that I haven't played Civ 5 yet I have played the hell out of every civilization game ever made me too And I've had every Civ game since the very first one and I played the crap out of all of them and it's not even on my radar

It's a is it the Stereo Mac report? No, they're about to make one. Okay. I read the other day that's coming to Mac very soon That that's kind of the one thing though. I mean, Siv is kind of the same game. Every time. Yeah, but it's a good game. Dude, no kidding. I've been playing Gus, turned me on to Siv for the iPhone. Yeah, so much fun. The new one is supposed to be completely different too.

Like the way they did the movement, they went to a hexagon pattern, like some of the ton games. Yeah. And you can only have one unit per tile, so you have to choose what to send to fight people it's interesting hey i have a question you know leopard ed just came out for the mac right

right yeah right and steam has that that new steam integration with the with the playstation network that's coming out does do you guys think leopard ed could become a playstation game at some point then like what they eventually port leopard ed leopard ed to the PS3?

Oh, well, I'm sure. Why not? Maybe the next iteration of the franchise will have it. But I think Gabe Newell has essentially completely reversed his position on the PS3, Brandon Harps on that all the time. Because Gabe Newell was one of the first guys to like, He was very outspoken. I won't develop to the PS3 paraphrasing here, but you know he

would bash it constantly and then suddenly was on stage talking about how wonderful the PS3 is. So I can tell you from an achievement hunter standpoint that's so awesome for me. Like when Gay Tony finally came out for the PS3, my views on Gay Tony doubled. It was like a second life for all of the videos that I did. There was a whole new generation of gamers. Why would so much for those walkthroughs. Why would someone not want to develop for the PS? Supposedly the PS3 is hard to develop for. Very different.

The architecture is very difficult. Yeah, I think it's hard to develop for and it didn't use, like, open, it didn't use industry adopted standards, which created a longer lead time on development. Yeah. I also think that the PS3 is that we're we like a lot of American games. Like even the Japanese titles we like for instance Capcom, Dead Drives 2, that's made by a Canadian developer now, right? Yeah, Blue Castle. There's a feel it's a feel less Japanese. No, as a result. No, I don't think so. Dude, it's exactly like Dead

Drives 2. It's exactly the only thing that's different I can think of is they remove the photography mechanic. Which is a huge Japanese Japanese thing like taking the pictures of the zombies and taking pictures. Yeah Oh one thing about that game There's no like indestructible weapons from what I can tell in that right? Yeah, you really can't book up weapons I feel like that was broken. Yeah, it was broken. Yeah in the first Definitely fixed it you get Joel you get in the first edirizing you could get like a chainsaw from this clown And then you get these books that made your if if you carry to certain kind of magazine, it would make your weapons last longer. And you could essentially get this awesome chainsaw that would last the entire game. Which, in deduizing a big

thing is that if you use a weapon long enough, it breaks and you have to go find a new one. Yeah, they still have that. They're, they're, they're, they're, they're, they're sort of books. The, the, the weapon customization's awesome too, like being able to combine whatever you want and use different, different weapons, it's just kind of goofy. Like my favorite, it's not effective. My favorite is the flaming boxing gloves. Before motor oil and boxing gloves, and you're like punching zombies and they're catching fire,

you can like pick them up and like punch them in the face. So, some of the stuff I played case zero, which was the arcade prequel to Dead Rising 2, like the Dead Rising 1.5. It's like a demo prequel. Yeah, it was a demo prequel of a sequel. Yeah. So it wasn't before Dead Rising, it was, I guess maybe it could have been timeline wise.

But anyway, and some of the weapons in there were kind of silly that you would build, like you could get a drill and a bucket, and you would make a bucket with a bunch of drills in it, and you could put it on a zombie's head. It was the most inefficient weapon you could ever possibly have. And you'd have to wait for it to finish killing and killing the zombie then it falls off and you pick it up and go put it on another one. Or you can make that like the air horn which you can use to blow up a zombie's head but you have to be directly in front of them and pull it down for like 10 seconds before it works. Yeah, pretty silly.

It's always a case like that too, is that you know in games like that you find the one weapon that's much better than anything else like in Dead Rising was the blue chainsaw yeah and in the case zero I haven't played the full game but in case zero it was just the baseball that with nails the baseball first one you got with nails is very handy throughout the entire game I don't think there's ever a moment I ever played Dead Rising 2 where I didn't have at least two of those in my inventory yeah but the best weapon is the night gloves the boxing gloves with bowie knives on them really yeah it Yeah. It's fast. You get a lot of experience for it. Oh, that's good. It's a fast weapon that's a good one.

I mean, and with devising too, I mean, isn't like, but the first one isn't sort of the clock always ticking. Yes, I think. Yeah. It's a cool game mechanic where you play for 72 hours. And then you just restart and you maintain your character over and over again. Which is cool.

Yeah, cool. I like it. Do they still have like that achievement where like, if you play the game for three days or whatever? No, that's disappointing. There's something else. There's another game mode in that. That's cool What is that? What is that game mode? Anything that springs in survival time in the first one. Yeah, no, it's like I guess it's the sports one. Oh the terror is reality Terror is reality like some stuff. That's a multiplayer. Is that what it is? Yeah, okay. What do I think? Yeah, really does cool to do into it

Anything that like taxes you in reality like the character that you're playing on the same on a one-to-one basis That's cool man. You're not gonna let this fucking achieve me. Oh About this I don't mean it like do you know the history of this? Let's do We haven't passed it by do you know the history of this let's do I know the We haven't talked about it in three-foot podcast I'm not I did shit stormly. I haven't you got it. Just out of curiosity. Why haven't you got the achievement? You see this list of games you got go on here. Oh, I got I got that I got to do that too That's 2010 for you 2009. This goes back to 2000 They're very busy with the chief mother. I'm very very busy

I was playing a playing warfare to do the day. I was thinking about the achievement race that we had back then Which is definitely I mean I Modern warfare is I guess you could say the thing that kind of the game that started achievement hunter in a way Because that's on race that we did in the mile high club thing that we did Absolutely that I would absolutely Which might explain what we did I fucked myself in that too because I gave Bernie a key I mean that last that last Challenge I would have killed myself had I gone through that whole game and then the last achievement is guess what?

It's not possible. I mean it was just that was hard dude. We were talking about here is That was just back when I'll go ahead. I was in 2007 I mean like we've entered we've entered an age Don't tell me I'll just go ahead. I'm sorry 2007. I mean, like we've entered, we've entered an age. Don't tell me I'll let us go ahead. I'm sorry, I can't help it. We've entered an age now, where it's like, if you run into trouble on a video game, you go to someone who has already sold the problem for you.

Right, online. That was always the case. What was in the case before me? What we did was Jeff and I, modern warfare was coming out. The first one called duty form modern warfare. Yes. And so everybody knew it was gonna be a popular game already And Jeff figured out that all the achievements were single-player achievements

Which we love and we had talked for a long time out of it about having a race and achievement race Who can get all the achievements in one game the fastest and so Jeff and I we got it do we give we did over a weekend Right we did it over we can start it on you did it. We started on Friday We started on Friday like we waited it wasn't launch day But we waited till Friday, and we said, okay, go it noon, and we both raised to the game as fast we could, which meant mainly finishing the game on veteran

and collecting a certain amount of things, the TVs, 30 little intel things. And there were a couple other ones. Yeah, intel. And that got you at 980 points. And that, I mean, we were going and marking each other's progress. Jeff went offline to hide his progress and kind of like, you you know subvert his own work. I got to 980 before

you did but you blew me away on the fucking you say blew you away because 980 took us to a thing called the mile high club which was a bonus level that you had to beat on veteran to get the last achievement. That was essentially the entire race. It took me like 500 tries. It was endless. It was over and over and over again. I probably did it at least 253 hundred times and at least that wasn't you, man. We was to go through that last airplane level on veteran, on veteran and like killed the three the hostage essentially. But did you have to do it in a certain amount of time? A minute and a half I think. No, it was a minute and a half time? I might have been in 90 seconds. Yeah. You had to run through the bottom floor of an airplane,

kill about 25, 30 guys, then go upstairs, and kill about 15 more, and then shoot a hostage taker in the head behind the hostage. And it's 60 seconds or a left. 60 seconds. 60 seconds. And it's some. I can't wait.

I forgot that. It's rough because there's a lot of patterns you learn and there are sometimes when you play if a pattern pops up You know you can't do it. So you got to wait for the right pattern and King of Kong you have to rely once You have to rely on AI to do a lot of the killing for you, which is tough That's the one thing I don't like about video game scenarios sometimes when you have to do something over and over again to the point where you now, it's no longer a game, you now understand the mechanics of everything that's going on around you.

And it's a zero one proposition where it's like, okay, either I got this one or that one. This is impossible. You know, when you break a game down to that level, the game's lost because that's not a game anymore. I should break that out today and see if I could do that running again today. I bet I could. I remember it. I can tell you turn for turn in person for person running through that thing Where everybody is I can see it in my head right now

It's horrible. I know when to throw the flashbangs Did you go and you go left or right on the first? Remember like go left you go left into the room the conference room Yeah, the company. What do you do then you shoot the guy in the head with the silence? Well then you flashbang when you're running through the conference Yeah, you shoot the guy you throw a flashbang over his head then shoot him in the head Yeah, the flashbang goes over his head into the first row of seats right where there's like six dudes six dudes There's two on the left two on the right and there are two guys by the door right you run for them knife one or two

If they get in your way because sometimes they'll strip you up like you can't walk over them But they're on the ground like one because I can't see because I can't see. Then if you threw that, you hit the wall on the right side, at least I did. And you're all way with two entry. Yeah, you're pretty good there. Then, then the next room is the room where the fucking explosion is. The next row sees is decompression. Yeah. And you gotta get through that.

There's a wall here right that you can hide behind the door. I didn't even go through it nearly as many times, but I went through a lot, and I know exactly what you're talking about. The way it gets tricky is when you have to go up the stairs, do you go up the left or the right? Yeah. That's the tough part. And what is it left or right? I went through a lot and I know exactly what you talk about. The way it gets tricky is when you have to go up the stairs. Do you go up the left or the right? Yeah, that's the tough part. And what is it left or right?

I went right. And you're sprinting that entire time. Do you go left or right? I went right. Remember, I forgot all the stairs to go. Absolutely, I forgot all the stairs to go right. Then you're when you get up, you go up the stairs, you turn around and come back up. It's one of those stairs with like landing.

Yeah. You come back around, then you look up and just as you crest the top and see the over the top of the top stair, you throw a flash bank into the up and just as you crest the top and see the over the top of the top stare You throw a flashbang into the room come up shoot all the guys then run into the room where you shoot it through the flashbang There might be a dude right there on the right or there might be a dude on the left That's kind of random cocksuckers. Yeah, and then and then you stab one of them and try to run past the other guy before he Recover's enough to shoot you then three dudes come running down the hallway And you shoot them and then turn left, turn right, there's the doors and you're there. As you all were describing this, I was watching a YouTube walk through here and you still know it.

Yeah, no, dude, I'll remember it on my deathbed. But the thing about it is, when Bernie was saying, especially upstairs where you stab one guy and let the other guy go, and then you run down the long haul the your AI has to kill that guy because he will turn around and kill you So you have to like go fast but not so fast that you're too far ahead of the AI. Yeah, that's helping you It's fucking tough, dude. Yeah, you can't leave your teammates behind. Oh, damn I even remember that like three seconds of manic whether cutting through the hatch at the beginning Uh-huh I saw I had to listen to that a thousand and then by the time you're in that room You're out of flashbangs like you've done your last flashbang and there's flashbangs on the table And it's like do you take the time to get the other flashbang for the end of the long hallway?

Or do you I would take it I did too I did too It's a good achievement. I mean it's definitely like it it harkens back to the old days of yeah video games You said nowadays and I saw a cartoon on Reddit about this where the classic arcade games like people who played Nintendo era You didn't have the internet. It's so weird because you'd hear it somehow from a friend of a friend. It's like where did they come from? It's all word of mouth. But even if you knew it, it was like you had to... the way they showed this was they showed the panel was the classic gamers. I've played this game for about 80 hours and I'm almost to the point where I can make it through

with my three lives through 10 levels and make it to the second to last level. And here's today's gamer. It's like, man, I've been on the same room for five minutes. I got to get on the internet and find a chance or how come I don't have a checkpoint? What a shitty game, you know, when, I mean, even a checkpoint, you didn't have those in the 10 minutes. Okay, fucking ghouls and goblins, but you know what? Checkpoint halfway through the, halfway through the level and that's it. I'll tell you though, checkpoints. Yes, I don't care. And now checkpoints. Yes, checkpoints are a good thing. I don't care. I don't want to repeat crap.

I don't want to repeat crap. Yeah, that's how you play Call of Duty. You play for checkpoints. Yeah, and I'm fine. That's good. The interesting thing about Call of Duty on veteran is that you get, your checkpoints are awarded by a time. Like, so if you go fast enough, you can get a checkpoint. If you don't, there is no checkpoint. duty on veteran is that you get your checkpoints are awarded by time. So if you go fast enough, you can get a checkpoint if you don't, there is no checkpoint.

Oh, interesting. Which is the key to beating the last level on Modern Warfare actually. And Modern Warfare 1. And that's, I like that mechanic. Because you're like, you're really, you're really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, No, you have to figure it out on your own. You know what I think you should do? I think you guys having done this and I did this this weekend, you guys should do another achievement race

for beating Halo Reach on legendary solo, because there's an achievement associated with that. Yeah. And that little, that little destroy. I've already even started. I'm about half way through. I hear people talking about it. It's like, oh, I get upset with them. It's called the monument to all your sins. Yeah, good Lord. Was that hard?

You beat that though and you get 270 points because there's two achievements tied up with the It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It matters is that I have that achievement. I can board that over Anybody though. Oh, you how you do? Oh, I got it this last week. I haven't played. How long taking I had it? I had a sick kid and so he was like you want to watch me play Halo Ridge for you know I was kind of derailed my my progress with that But I'm gonna get back to it hopefully hopefully tonight. How far have you gotten? I've gotten up to where you after you fly the spaceship and you have to land under the cruiser and kill the communication crew Okay, that's where I'm at okay very enough So you have to drop in and yeah, like it's especially the assembly multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-m cool and did a very cool thing where they put our names as troops that you can be assigned in Halo Reach like the little guys who add into your squad.

So there was a couple times where you guys were actually in my squad. You fucking suck. You guys are all died right away. I still have a few more. You're a real co-op experience because you guys were dead immediately. Were you screaming like a little girl? Cause that's a real co-op experience. Yeah.

There's a covenant. Get off me. There's a fucking plasma grenade. Your feet just fucking move. The hardest one for me I have to say out of the whole thing and I'm sure everyone Yeah, there's a covenant. Get off me. There's a fucking plasma grenade. Your feet just fucking move. The hardest one for me, I have to say, out of the whole thing. And I'm sure everyone who's done this, all five of us in the world, hopefully, because that was hard.

But the hardest part for me was there's that level Exodus, where it's the one where you're going to the city after you spoilers on Reachbot. You land back on the planet after you're pushed out of the space station or out of the spaceship, there's this thing there at the end, we have to activate those two buttons. And then you have to go up to the building and turn on that last one. Hit that last button.

First two buttons were a breeze getting from that last button into the building. Chiquit me probably an hour and a half straight to move about 50 yards. Yeah. I mean, it was just relentless. Let me ask you this in general. What is what is a harder gameplay mode across the board veteran in a Call of Duty game or legendary in a Halo game? I always just go to the hardest levels. So what's harder the hardest which one's harder to beat on the hardest level? The hardest level on modern warfare and I didn't play modern warfare two. I didn't. You put a veteran. You had a tough time on that one where you have to clear the house out and then run down to the Helicopter you had to run down the hill to the helicopter

Yeah, and you guys run across the rooftops, you mean? No, no, no, no, Model War for us to across the hill. Oh, that was a glitch though. Mine was glitched. I just restarted and I beat it in like a minute after that and that was really weird Every time I got to put where I was supposed to cutscene. I would it was being explosion. I would die That was thinking point where I was supposed to cut scene I would it was being explosion I would die Hmm, I was thinking what am I doing wrong? And finally I just said forget it I killed my checkpoint and restarted but I wouldn't say modern warfare 2 is that hard I agree my number one Yes, my more for one was harder than two there was a ferris wheel But you know what that was a blast no

I am so hard I'm these three hours to beat that level I No, it was so hard. I've been these three hours to beat that level. I love levels where it's a super hard level But you get to at least have the time where you control the beginning of it where it's like, okay I have some planning where this is where you set out the charges and you set where you control the space to some extent But in the beginning when you're doing those run-throughs and you have those levels where But in the beginning, when you're doing those run-throughs and you have those levels where you do five minutes of setup and then you just get killed by the, you like you missed this one shot and so that one guy kills you, so you got to do the setup over and over. But that was the one experience. I've had only a handful of experiences where I just got killed over and over and over again, did mind it, had a blast. So, and that's one of us.

Are you saying that the fairest wheel level in modern warfare was the hardest level in modern warfare to complete Yeah, but you that was of the veteran levels that was definitely one of the hardest levels I've ever played I mean my high club wasn't part of the campaign right, but I mean there was stuff on legendary where I was like this I was like I lose it up some boys. I know this can't be done. I know I can't beat a Room of five zealot elites with an engineer giving them extra shields I just can't physically be done. It cannot happen Like I said, I'm not all the way done yet, but the The part where you have to cover June as he's like setting up the it's on nightfall as he's setting up the explosive on the cloaking shield

Oh, yeah, and the dropship comes and drops elites and two hunters. Mm-hmm. I about put my controllers through the TV It was like it was like you just permutations. It's like, it was like, you use the permutations. It's like, what cover am I going to run to and run to? What order do I have to kill everyone in? What weapons do I have to pick up? Because I'm running out of ammo constantly. I could say with the utmost confidence, I now know why the Halo Reach console comes with two controllers.

You will need that second controller when you smash the first one into a Bolivian What do you think was the hardest level of complete on legend? Very and reach it was Exodus for me it was the very very last checkpoint on On Exodus and I'm sure there's some people who like did it in four seconds You know because they had the right weapons if you don't like that's that's the that's what I find the most frustrating Is it when you're in the scenario and you're like well? I don't have the right weapons I'm kind of screwed here and it's just like like, then it's like, do I go back and blow the whole level again, you know, understand what I'm about to get into. Yeah.

They really do a good job of making you pick and choose. And they're not some of those levels you're just scrounging for anything you can find. That's sweet. I felt like all the time. It was like, I don't have enough ammo. I don't have enough weaponry, you know. Now I was always done to where I like got I had a one point I had a fuel rod cannon that I think had which is the alien equipment of a rocket launcher essentially and I think it had 28 rounds in it I thought this is gonna be my trump card and I kept a thing forever It didn't matter. I should have just abandoned it for a plasma pistol. Yeah, at any point in time a plasma pistol in DMR Or that needle rifle? Mm-hmm. That's that's the way to go. I'm linching anything ranged. I hate the

The assault rifle. I don't want to get up close I want to stick to the DMR and pistols and needle rifle anything from from range where I can hide behind cover DMR's determined this weapon Absolutely fantastic. Looks like you're gonna blow up. I'm gonna blow up because there's something There's something I hate and hate to reach. I mean, there's something that that if I ever see this in real life Which impossible is a fictional game? I ever see this in real life, which is possible, it's a fictional game, I will punch it in the face. But I won't be able to, because I won't be able to hit it.

I don't know if everyone else has this problem. What the fuck happened with jackals between Halo 3 and Halo Reach? I cannot kill jackals to save my life. I tell you my jackals are the skirmish of it. No, I'm talking about straight up little dopey birdie jackals. I've noticed I have a lot more trouble with jackals now than I used to I Hate I would rather face a the lead than like three jackals. I mean they are they are impossible

I saved my grenades just to kill jackals I have a lot harder time hitting that little weak spot that they have yeah Yeah, and I feel like it takes more shots to take them down as well. They're more they move around a lot more too Yeah, oh yeah, they do, yeah. Everything moves. Also, I'm legendary, you have the thing where anytime you have the DMR or something that's a scope weapon, where you're like zoomed in and you're shooting in a lead in the head, it takes like 10 shots of the DMR to take your shields off and you get that pop and your shield comes off and then instantly something taps you and it takes away your zoom.

It's like they have the time on that. So perfect. And you just want to tear your zoom. It's like they have the time on that. So perfect. And you just want to like tear your hair out when that happens. And then the elite just like ducks behind a rock. And you're just like you're in a agony knowing you've got to do all that again. But seriously, I mean, I don't know what to do with the jackals on reach or what the, you know, it's a prequel. So what if the jackals lose?

But I mean, jackals are jackals were my nemesis on legendary. They are just, they are so hard to take down and they're like They're almost like a step up from a grunt, right? So they throw like five or six of you at a time I feel like every time I interfaced with those guys and I haven't gotten very deep in the legendary But it's like I've wound up running up punching them punching them punching them. Yeah, we're good luck with that on legendary Because if you if you come out and you cover it's just like You take two steps and you're like the and I an Exodus the level

I'm talking about all you have to do you don't kill anything all you have to do is touch a button and that that level is over But it's just it is impossible to wait through that I found myself doing a couple of endarounds where it's just like okay I'm just gonna pass this up Especially in early level, but in this case you can't you have to get to the bottom yeah Well, you can do it you can do it on the club a rare level where you have to fight for hunters in that time oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i just yeah you just book it you know yeah why does anybody fight those hunters

i don't get that like i was doing the the uh... campaign the first weekly challenge to be done for a look and i was going to co-op with a bunch of people and i was back at the falcon let's take off and the guys are like that they're like why would you help me the hunters? Why the fuck are you? Why would you waste your time with those hunters? Doesn't make any sense? Yeah, you're not legendary You can bolt right by him. That's nice. Yeah, that's the best thing to do. I actually thought about on legendary trying to

Initiate that little party How how tough is it? Oh, yeah, you could do that to circumvent that how tough is it to get through I have things that I haven't played in a Legendary yet. I mean I played played the level where you have to, I don't remember the name of the level, but it's the one where you have to get the tank to survive through legendary. I did that a team back in the sword base. Yeah, going back in the sword base. As the only thing I've touched in legendary, but when I think about stuff that would be really hard, the part that gust of stuck at seems like it would be impossible. but also the part early on in

It's a check in his head. Yeah, the part early on on that Club era level where you have to go into the hospital and go all the way to the back and get the shield generator or whatever And you have that one long hallway that's full of broots. Yeah, it's a hospital level Yeah, the hospital down that's certainly you go down a spiral and then that seems like it would be like next one possible There's a it's when you're coming back, brews have a thing where they don't have shields, so you can use the needleer and just whey-lay brews. So the needle rifle and the needleer are just, I mean, they just tear brews up. When you're coming back,

though, you have all those jumping jet pack elites. Yeah. And that's just, just hate those. All of it is checkpoints to your friend. Okay. And that medic bubble shield, that does nothing in legendary.

I mean, you have to be behind a corner. It's just a healing unit they have to hide to use because you can don't pop that bubble shield. Hope for things that are knowing me the most of the jet. Even even a multiplayer when you're playing against people and they have jet packs. Fuck I hate them. I'd rather try to do some of those than one jet. How about a jet pack tackle? Okay, let's do it. It's a horror story. Those jackals are so terrible on legendary. I can't believe how hard it is to the whole story. It's a horror story. Those jackals are so terrible, unlegendary. I can't believe how hard it is to fight those things.

There's nothing in any of the other Halo games. They're fodder. And I see one of my co-hosts like, I have no grenades. What am I going to do? Yeah. Collegrand would be great if Hollagrand was present more often. Because if you get those stupid jackals to turn around,

then you could be in business. Yeah, they're really good with their field. Another question to you. And it's just because I played so much Halo Reach this weekend that I have all these questions. Sounds like you guys are really attacking the single player more than multiplayer. But yeah I played I think 130 reach games which I'm surprised to see because I have I don't feel like I played a lot of multiplayer. Flash. One of our buddies has played 150 games so far. What rank is he? I want to say he's a tenacernal. Really?

I want to say he's up there. He's up there. Yeah. And like, I know somebody else we know has a thousand points. I can't remember who it is. Every single time I've logged into reach, he's on. Every time there's not a single time I have a log game where he's on a log game. I think I played 2,500 total games of Halo 2 and that was ridiculous.

And that was over two or three years Damn it. He's played 800 games in what a week or a week and a half two weeks. Yeah, it's crazy It's pretty crazy He even posted a tweet that was like I don't get a chance to do this very often But I'm gonna relax Friday and it was a picture of Halo Reach and like a bottle of booze I'm like how the fuck do you know how you are obviously playing Halo Reach 24 hours a day? I think he meant he doesn't drink very often. Ah, that must be it. I like you. You said that part of it. That's this normal Friday night for you drinking at the house.

Normal. I don't even know what his rank is. What is that picture? I'm looking, I'm looking on bungee.net. It's like I also feel like Jeld, visual awards. Yeah, at least in a Colonel grade three.'s rewards for playing campaign ongoing like they they you continue to get credits and you continue rank your multiplayer. That's a good point Yeah, one of today's daily challenge is the beat to kill 50 elites in campaign is a daily challenge. Yeah I'm trying to think we do that Yeah, they've had that one before haven haven't they? I don't know. I think so.

Yeah, I've gotten that one. I got that one on. It's funny, where I am now in the legendary campaign. When you're playing legendary and you have to die and restart constantly, you end up killing 150 elites pretty quick. Yeah. I think I did it on the long, I think I did it just on the long night of solace level. Right, because checkpoints it just keeps your tally going.

Right. Oh, you're right. That's what I did. I just kept going up and down the beach That makes sense. That makes it. You can do the last level. There's five or eight. You just run that room ten times Yeah, I'm way behind. I'm way behind. I'll never catch up probably What do you mean in terms of rank? Yeah, I just I don't know that I will ever complete the legendary We get terrible at hallow well the terrible at hallow the nice thing about ranking up and reach It's like I could never make general in Halo 3 because I'm not that good

Like I would never happen. It's not gonna happen But you can totally do it and reach cuz you can do in campaign You can do it in firefight you can you got a whatever avenue works best for you I like I play a ton of firefight. I really like firefight-match making Reach is reach is a perfect game. Yeah, they they figured everything out It's almost like they just like knew that there's nothing else we can add. I mean, too to date, it is the best game I've ever played. But it's like, you can just see like all the little pieces that they had from all the

different games finally come together. Coming together. And they ditched stuff that didn't matter. Like there's no dual wielding in reach that, you know, people didn't identify with. And I'm sure there's other things I can't even think of that, you know, were in a big deal. Yeah, well, it's something they're still that. You know, we're in a big deal. Yeah. But something's just still there. You know, that like scoring is still there, but it's not as prominent as it wasn't Halo 3 because it wasn't that important.

But like you said, it's just a tweaking. Dual-wielding's gone. Even the equipment changed, you know, to great armor ability. It's just like a more refined system. Right. You think that the logic there is that maybe the match chief has access to all the equipment. And any point in time whenever he wants to use it. and he doesn't have to like choose which one he wants. Like he doesn't.

Yeah, I guess. But how different is that though? I mean equipment system is theoretically supposed to be better. Yeah, like armor abilities you can change on the flying campaign. You just have to fly through. Oh, I guess. Yeah, just like in some of the things. Yeah.

Who knows. The war was very taxing on the economy. But let me ask you this. Since I played so much read, one more thing. When you guys play Halo, do you guys find it's much, much, much harder to kill something from behind than when you're facing it? Like when you're shooting at it.

I know hitting it, it's a death. Yeah. Like if a gun is running away, it takes about five, six shots to kill a gun. Where if it's facing you, it's one shot dead. Granted in particular, it's hard to see Yeah. Like if a gun is running away, it takes about five, six shots to kill a grunt. Well, if it's facing you, it's one shot. Grunts in particular. It's hard to see their head from behind. Right. I feel like they have like a collar piece or piece of armor or like something, some plate on the back. So it's harder. You have like a little section on top of their skull. Like a turtle. And then the front, you've got like the entire face. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely. But it's a particular award. That's true when someone's

shooting at you and multiplayer. It's like it takes more shots if you're running away from someone hitting you in behind. I don't know what's that Well a headshot. Yeah, definitely on a Spartan. Yeah I'm gonna agree with Joel and that yeah, I think so. I was just playing multiplayer a little bit a little while ago And that was I was chasing a dude through and I do a lot of running away the new ivory tower And I must have put like 30 needle rounds into him in the back of the head and just kept trucking. I can kill a dude with like three in the head from the front. I am a little confused about that one part

in the storyline where you exit the covenant ship and in like the next cutscene you're just on the planet. You filled earth. Yeah, I guess you can do that if you're just a noble. I actually noticed. Does it master chip do that at the beginning? It's a part of the game. But be using a master chief if you actually look at there's a cut scene at the beginning of that and I have somehow I notice is the

first time I played through if you look at noble six and cut scene he actually has a pack on that's called a reentry pack well it's very prominent I felt it was almost spoilerish when I saw that the first time I'm a first playthrough because he kind of turns and puts it like directly in the camera okay I agree with you I saw yeah like I thought they telegraph first playthrough because he kind of turns and puts it like directly in the camera. Okay, I agree with you. I saw it like telegraphs it. Yeah, it was I was like, oh, that's weird.

I guess I'm going to have to reenter, you know, you know, come to the planet. They definitely show it. He's got it must be a space thing that they have a reentry pack. And then I think at one point, like I do, Noble five even mentions that there's only one reentry pack. Oh, is that true? Yeah.

And in the level right before you, right before he pushes you out. Oh, yeah, you're right. When he says that the trigger on the bar Miss on the bomb is fucked up. That's right Still like I feel like I've wanted to see something I don't know I get that I get that you wanted to see it happen But the supposed parts can jump in from space and they can land they're like extra special ODST's that are need the whole pod They just need the backpack. Yeah, they they locked their gel layer. I mean that's a that's a pretty

Yeah, they they locked their gel layer. I mean that's a that's a pretty Impressive technology really All pretty impressive. I mean you think that would be their best form of attack would just be like creating some sort of Just put a jet pack on the back of the guy into the gel lock and just run over everybody Right, I mean who's I'm who can stop that? Right, if you can impact upon the planet Spartan bowling. Right. It sounds like in your game time, you can make and reach Lega Spartan bowling. You know, did you guys read about the, this is back to real life now.

Did you read about the meteor that is coming dangerously close to Earth? I heard about that. My encounter. They found it, Jeff. They found it at the beginning of October. That's when they found this media. That's always that's 60,000 kilometers Within with an earth's orbit, right? So are we gonna die today? It's 12 meters across So it's cool that they can find that's not that's not gonna kill us No, it basically said it would burn up in if it hit the amateurs like burn up 12 meters about 45 feet is that 36 feet 40 feet something like that Yeah, yeah, that wouldn't that one kill us It fucks him shit up though. Yeah, fuck some shit up. If you lay it on your kill you

You're knowing my odds that's probably exactly what's gonna happen that if I had a jackal shield to kill me also It didn't someone I may be totally talking about my ass here But I feel like didn't wasn't there a story a couple years ago about someone who was like taking a nap on their couch And they got hit by a meteor and survived. It was like it came through, it like had, I guess, the seller enough going through their attic and their second story and they like hit them in their couch and they're like, oh, that really hurt, but they survived and they have this meteor that hit them. They, God, they put on that second floor. Maybe the meteor, the jailer and their seller or basement.

I see, I know, I do, you see, you remember that as well. I think it's a message. In the hand or something with it? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, are you guys? It wasn't the same guy from the head on collateral. Yeah, it was, it was some woman in 1954, a meteorite struck her. Yeah, I feel like every crazy, I feel the probability of that. Gus. Yeah, that's a fucking insane. Yeah. I think he's made up. Just a problem. I'm sure it's the probability. I mean, there's a lot of meteorites that hit the planet every day. I mean, small ones. I mean, not hundreds of them. Not even close to them. I look it up. Just a problem. I'm sure it's the probability. I mean, there's a lot of meteorites to hit the planet every day. I mean, small ones. I mean, hundreds of them. Not even close

to the Earth. Look it up. No, it hit her in the hip. It was November 30th, 1954, and it was a woman in Alabama. Her name was Anne Hewlett. Oh, Miss Hewlett. Yeah, I know her. And NASA has confirmed it. What are the part of the English from? Silicon Kaga. I don't know where that is. Yep, Silicon Kaga. That was the Silicon Valley of Alabama. Does anybody know what Alabama fell to in the polls? I haven't had the heart to look. No, I haven't looked. Do you have seen Alabama lost? But as a Texas fan, I'm not aware of that anymore because I literally can't acknowledge college football after last week.

God. But I did say when we first started the podcast two years ago, it said Rangers they're going. And I was a year early, but although they might be eliminated tonight. Yeah, they've been, but I'll tell you what, series tied up two two. So whoever wins tonight tonight is gonna meet the Yankees in the ALCS So whoever but I gotta tell you I would much rather I got a much rather lose to Tampa Bay I mean if the Rangers go the ALCS Would you rather lose the Yankees? I'd love to I'm a Ranger fan Gus. Let's not get crazy I have a special message from YouTube for Jeff.

Here's a little message to Alabama fans. Yes! And you're tired! You guys fucking lost! I'm tired! Yes! So sorry! You lose! Have no! God! Second fucking time to hear it! Same as our hero! Same as our hero! Oh Jesus Guys made that guy is somebody

Love obviously an Auburn fan if you're a college football fan How I mean how have you not felt that way at some point during right? That way do when Texas beat you at sea do I live in California 10 years getting beat on USC fans oh that is an angry young man that kid that kid needs therapy yeah that's so that's pretty pretty out there he's a pretty angry guy who is he who's the fan of who no who cares when we got a research this guy's like the German kid who got angry at the video game good Good lord. Somebody translated that.

It was pretty interesting. The kid couldn't wait for the load. Man, that's... Is that what it was? So how could the kid... Would the kid take himself doing that? He couldn't wait for it to load? Yeah.

The game wouldn't load. I think he's trying to counter strike. And he's saying, why won't a load load you stupid level? No. And then he's like, would you get disconnected from a server than reconnect? Hey, you guys excited about the biggest media event of the year happening Friday It was a best thing ever. What is it? I don't even know what you're talking about. You guess no no fucking Jack S3D comes out Friday

It's so excited. It's gonna be the best day of the year. I gotta see that somewhere. Oh my god I'm so excited. We're all gonna go go with us. I don't know if there's some more crowd agreement with draft house. We're gonna go gold class, I think. Oh, that's a good idea. You can't go to gold class to watch that movie. You guys are so good. Absolutely. They have booze and food. But John makes a good point though. We're gonna gold class is a very nice upscale theater here in Austin where they have about you're gonna be the 40 seats total in the place. Yeah. And there's big reclined. I see. I'm with the O'Rourke crowd. I went there this weekend.

And I literally saw an overweight 55 something great here, gentlemen, making fun of the servers because they're servers. Like that's, yeah, that sucks. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So you know what, the waiters essentially put it in the building. Yeah Yeah, there was some over there was the worst thing I'd ever seen. There was like some overweight old pompous douchebag guy and brought his like seven-year-old son there. And while the server is serving this douchebag seven-year-old little kid, he's like

and I guess they had been talking about getting a job or something like that. You see, that's why you want to get a job. You don't want to be a server, rest your life. It was like, and I guess they had been talking about getting a job or something like that. You see, that's why you want to get a job. You don't want to be a server, rest your life. And it was like, are you in front of the side? I was like, are you being serious? Like, did you just say that? I was in his food. I was in his food.

Dude, that guy deserved a knuckle sandwich. Yeah, that's, I was, I was embarrassed. I felt bad to be sitting in the theater. No one does that job. You don't get food or drinks at a fucking theater Like what a fucking dickhead an arrogant. I hate that stuff Especially that is like you know How can you not value something that you're going out of your way to enjoy to I mean he's going to that theater

For that service for that experience and then he looks down on it What a fucking asshole is like and he would be the first guy in the world if his fucking chicken sandwich turned up 10 minutes late to be raising hell probably, you know? And what really made it the most offensive is there was no like consciousness of what had just happened to him. Right. You know what I mean?

Like he just wasn't even, he didn't acknowledge it. I don't think he was even aware of it. And the way they serve there, like the waiter kind of has to lean over you to hunch this table that's between your two seats. Plus it's also like you said, a room with like 40 people at most. So it's a very, very small, interesting place. Plus, just explaining that kid to be a dickhead.

That's a play, they play a trailer. They play a trailer at that place that's like for a golf club. Like, at beginning of the movie, it's like a golf club. It's also $30 a ticket. And for reference, most tickets are $10. That's back to the point. Is this where you want to see jackass? Yeah, it's a good point.

Yeah, people are going. There is something to be seen like when we saw their models pop out of their eyes They're so shocked. What is this? When we saw jackass one, Bernie, it was I think you were there We saw it West Lake and it was at like two in the afternoon on a Friday And it was a full theater of like kids from high school And that was like the best experience ever because it was just two hours of people laughing constantly.

Right. You know, and being in the middle of like 300 people laughing at once is awesome. It definitely heightens the experience. And then we said check, it's two at the Alamo, which was great. And we, that's a tag. That's a tag. That's a tag. Like maniacs, but I don't feel like anyone around us was really like, I mean, Jeff and I,

we go to this thing, we're like two gay guys at the Tony Awards. We're just like, we're on the Tony awards pretty much we're on We're on the loud nine dude it's bigger than any video game it really is this is our Oscar this is Jackass nice you need to make a Jackass video game I actually I like it so much that I couldn't listen to Howard Stern yesterday because Johnny Knoxville was on and they kept giving spoilers and it doesn't seem like a movie that you wouldn't want to be spoiled but trust me me, dude, some of the stuff you're saying, you're like, fuck, why do I have to know about that now?

I know about it going in. I had to turn, I had to turn it already off all day yesterday because I couldn't, because like, somebody would say the word dildo and follow it up with something else that's hilarious, and you're like, fuck, I'm not gonna spoil it for you guys. There was a Jackass video game. There was, yeah, for PSP, right?

There's two and PSP. Do you think it sucks? Probably. No, I can, I probably no i can i can tell you about that it was made by uh... new zealand developer name synth which is s i d h e right we actually met them only went down there for armageddon con one year because they had specifically put in a machinima mode in it where you can really where you can make movies with

and the guys could talk like you make steve o talk and the jackass hadn't had no input or nothing to do with it didn't get any residuals from the two. From the game period. From the game period. Yeah, weird. Well, it's in TV, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You sign it.

If you sign anything with it in the MTV building, watch out. Yeah, because they will take, I mean, I think these guys are still making these movies because they never made any money from the TV show. That's what I think. You know what's funny? They were talking about money with Johnny Knox really yesterday.

The part I did here, he recently got divorced. And his wife gets, or he got divorced in 2009. His wife gets half of everything he makes on Jackass in perpetuity. You mean if he makes other movies? Yeah, like she gets half of his money from Jackass 3D. I have stood in for that guy twice. I started from two movies.

Yeah, one was Duke's hazard, right? So you should get something. Somehow I should get something. Yeah. No, not really. Like he made a, he's So you should get something somehow I should get something. Yeah, no, not really like he made a He's a good guy. He seems like a good guy. He made five million for what was that movie? He was in the Pretend no, what was the one? It was a big movie. He got five million to be in it man and black two

Maybe now it was a movie he had a bigger role and I can't remember. Oh, oh The movie you stood in for him. I have to have a good hazard hazard he got five million for that and had to give two and a half to his ex-wife. She gets any she gets specifically anything from Duke's hazard and jackass for some reason those are the two properties she gets have. Well she was David divorce after he's a hazard that makes sense. Yeah. But like going forward if he does like another dux a hazard movie supposedly has to give her half of that as well. It's not everything he does it's just certain properties. You know like divorce laws are one thing and it's you know community

properties community property and you know, divorce laws are one thing, and it's, you know, community property, community property, and, you know, you can make the argument she was home and allowing people to have this career. But there is, specifically, I think sports guys, and he's a very unique guy, people who hurt themselves. No one he's going on hurting himself and destroying his body and then handing off that money. That's a little different than the dude has had the pee

out of a catheter every time he has to go to the bathroom for the last two years. And everyone knows that. And he's gonna have to put it in for a minute. And he's gonna have to do it for like another two years and maybe forever. That's a pretty brutal. Yeah. Like, would you see guys like, even like, I see guys like Mike Tyson and this gets away from the divorce thing, but just in general, the people who are in his organization, who then you know are taking money from him left and right, what it's a musician or something like that, I mean that's a musician, but like Tyson who's like just beat his brains out, you know, it's a special kind of tragedy, you know, and it's just sad when you see it happen,

like an NFL star who can't walk. Yeah, yeah, no kidding, right, like Earl Campbell. I watched the Tyson documentary, which was actually pretty good if you guys have never seen it It's on Netflix. Yeah, and you watch him get stupid throughout the course of his career Like he was never seemed like a brilliant dude But he was coherent and like cohesive and could have conversations and seemed a bit like a point And you just watch him get dumber through film like through film clips. It's really sad Yeah, I mean or boxing careers like usually 18 to 30. Yeah, it's not you know

It's not normal to make a setting in yeah, it's just getting your brain I saw a document on rampage Jackson or whatever like the you see guys like he he understood it like you see him jogging around and kids Like he's like don't do what I do go study. Yeah learn You see him jogging around and kids are like, ah, and he's like, don't do what I do. Go study. Learn. It's terrible. Don't be a server.

I'm trying to, you know, try to peel out and do a movie smell. Forget away from that stuff. That's what's true. So if you get, I mean, you know, you're made the shade there, right? Speaking of which, the rock is in an action movie. Yeah, how often I've heard about that.

And he's supposedly it's badass. Thank God, dude. Two fairy two. God, I'm so looking forward to it. Here's the thing. Like if you're a real, we scape to which mountain. You thing like if you know it's a real Reescape to which mountain You know if you're an action star and your big action story you start going down there

I'm a comedy children whatever movie route. Is it harder to go back and have people? I guess it's okay. I think you that must be the role of becoming a parent, right? I mean you watched Eddie Murphy do it Like suddenly we went to make movies for his kids like the rock must have had some kids and yeah His kids are like what'd you do today, Dad? And he's like, well, I can't show you because I ripped somebody's skull off. They could stuck a grenade in his ass hole.

And they get the tooth. Yeah. So I can describe that when you're 20, Dad, he can show you my... The kids are finally old enough to appreciate his movies. Yeah, well, I'll say like, you know, so he's like, all right, well, I'm gonna make the two-thirty, so my kid can understand what I do for a living.

Well, I think the prototypical action star is Schwarzenegger snigger And if you look at him once he started doing funny stuff That was it all he could do was go back to stuff that he'd already made like terminator But it's yeah, seemed like it lost something but who knows and even kindergarten cop wasn't that bad because he was like a tough guy in a Stupid situation right and it was still action stuff in it I think it was more like twins when he did that Yeah, yeah, yeah, or when junior for Christ sake was a pregnant guy. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah I never saw junior. I don't think I saw it. Yeah, I never saw. Yeah. How do you get that billing together? How do you put Arnold Schwarzenegger in a movie with Emma Thompson?

How do you put that out? Yeah, maybe with the action stuff too It's like maybe you get to the point where you're too old or you're just too tired to maintain that. Like it must be, like your entire life is like in the gym just to stay that ripped and probably doing all kinds of terrible steroids for your body and stuff. And at maybe some point you just like, you get beat down and you're like, I can't keep it up. Nobody wants to, I mean look at Silvestre Storm. We all love that he's, you know, still going strong with the Rambo and the expendables. But the dude looks, has had a rough look in life. I'm glad to hear you say that dude. I can tell you, I'm sick of it. Working out constantly is getting on my nerves. And I was thinking of you, actually.

I don't get it though, because you were talking about how he was on that interview on Stern. I think we do, I can't remember if we talked about this on the podcast or not, where he's just like, well, I'm just struggling and blah blah, trying to get made. Oh, he's still up for it. Yeah, and it's just like, well, I mean, didn't,

I mean, don't you have money in the bank at this point? Well, you know, I have the money that he has. Yeah, you say that everybody else. You could, I think, I mean, you think a guy, I'm not inflicting people on your own. You still want to work? You make a bunch of money, you have like three X lives probably at this point, you've lost a ton of your money

in divorces, and you make a lot of dumb decisions because you're like I have five million dollars this month I'll make five million dollars next month someday the script stop coming and maybe so you're not smart with your cash maybe so it sounds like Jeff has done a lot of Research into divorce I've been through a divorce and his defense once you once you go through divorce you you notice stuff Okay, before we get off movies, I want to point me out. We talked about the town a couple of weeks ago. Oh yeah I'm actually- You guys saw it?

No but I thought this was interesting. I saw the town on the list of movies that's showing at Gold Class when I was trying to buy our tickets. And so I looked it up, sure enough, I don't know if this is Beteth first directorial. It's not. It's a second. I remember y'all talked about it.

The other movie he did was God may be gone. God may be gone. But the town I think is, man, you can look it up guys. I think it's made about 70 million right about there This movie has now grossed every single Kevin Smith movie ever Kevin Smith has never had a 70 million dollar movie In fact, what was it? Surprising me what is interesting right because like don't you consider Ben Affleck kind of of be in that stable of Smithites. Kevin Smith and then he goes out and direct something and it makes $70 million. Yeah, that's a really good point. No, no, he elevated past that a long time. He still does back and does all those movies, huh? Right. But yeah, but

you know, actually, I think he's not dependent upon him. No, not at all, not at all. But he may consider fucking a Jersey girl, you know, more and more interesting. The town may have grossed as much of all of Kevin Smith's movies did combined no not quite because do you know what the highest Gross and Kevin Smith directors look hit the director I'm looking right here. You know the highest grossing Kevin Smith movie Directed I feel like I should know this. I'm gonna say it's Chasing Amy. Yeah, that's why I would guess cop out. Oh, not Out wow what a tremendous piece of shit The movie is really have you guys seen it? No, it is in it is embarrassingly bad

I had to watch her on a plane. I had to turn it off. I was on a plane coming back from England So I was coming back from Scotland. So I had like 10 hours on me I had to watch it in chunks like I'll watch 20 minutes of it this time around next time it comes on in the cycle I'll watch I was able to stomach another 30 minutes it was okay I feel like I've been on a man on an island for the past 10 15 years have a long heavens myth has been around And I haven't seen chasing Amy it seems like that might be a good movie, but of the movies that I've seen him do Are you really being serious? I mean seriously like this is good. What are we saying? Oh? You know like you miss what you think? Well, no, I'm sure he's a nice guy really being serious i mean seriously like this is good what are we saying you know i can't just read

well no i'm sure he's a nice guy but a lot of the movies that he's made i don't get it did i i i understand what you're saying i think it's a movie very good i mean i'm as bad for a kevin smith film i'll say that and i liked i think clerk was on awesome movie i could still so i don't want to work for it's that i thought the strong i hear clerk's, it seems like very good. I think about a clip. That was a movie that came out of nowhere. You had low expectations. It was an independent thing.

OK, cool. But then what was the other one, mall rats? I did not like mall rats. But Kevin Smith is a director. You start naming directors in America. You're going to get to Kevin Smith pretty quickly. Absolutely. You're not going to get to Ben Affleck that quickly.

Even like Spike Lee, you'll get to Spike Lee. And Kevin Smith is in the same class director Spike Lee. He has a very specific audience, that love live and die with his stuff Yeah, you couldn't ask for anything better. I mean he's had a longer career than 99.9% of all directors that have ever directed any kind of it doesn't matter 16 years ago It doesn't matter what Kevin Smith directs because he has you're right He's got that instilled audience that's always gonna go and watch and support a stuff and by the shit out of that guy's merchandise like say what you all about that dude he is a merchandising genius so funny because

there are Hollywood directors out there they're good directors and no one knows their name like they direct a lot of move there's a guy Johnny who did I can't remember his name but he does a lot of what's the name of the movie he did uh... did you the alamo uh... he did he just did that that the Walt Disney movie with the secretary it just that movie he's not working for all this and what you know it's it's funny to me that it's just like there's a there's a lot of directors out there especially TV directors certainly legitimate people who know what they're

doing no one knows who they are but they're working who cares i mean it's just funny like how some people have a name and are held up you know and it i guess it's just because only like, how some people have a name and are held up, you know, and it I guess it's just because someone like Kevin Smith is Very distinctive Labor well, he got he got famous in an interesting way too. I mean he made his own film. He did the Rob Rodriguez thing Right, and like it seems like and work into the industry in a cool way He didn't break into it doing like made for TV movies and slowly building it up Yeah, that's true. And the studio films. That's true

You know, you mentioned that secretariat movie I don't know if you've all seen this, but they've been playing a lot of TV commercials for it. And I guess, I don't, I mean, I guess I kind of know what the movie's about, but there's this one scene in the trailer where they cut to a guy who I guess is a bad guy in the movie. He looks at the camera and says, Secretariat's going down.

It's like, you really? Yeah, this is a lot of stuff. I'm in this movie. You also got to give Kevin Smith credit because he made himself a personality. Absolutely., I mean he gave himself a good character Put it in that first movie and then he spends probably spends about as much time on Developing his films as he does his brand of him, you know like his clown He'll use the term brain reference to a person that but I mean like a spike leave. Spike Lee is still

You know floor seats for the Nick every damn game. You know, and what was the last time you went to see a Spike Lee move? I don't even remember the last Spike Lee move. I think Inside Man. Inside Man. It's fucking awesome. It's a dead-ass movie with a, who's the best heist movies ever made. One of the best, one of the best New York movies where New York is a character. Yeah. And the people who live in York, like, it's tremendous. Like anytime you have a movie where it's like

people stealing money and it's set in New York. It's like New York is not going to let you escape. It seems like that should be the press of the movie. I could build Murray. I think the last spiky movie I saw was Summer of Sam. Summer of Sam. It was in Long time ago. No, we was not good. Inside man is inside man. Inside man. Inside man. Oh, so good. I mean, they're inside man. I can't believe you're not inside man. Yes, great. Gensel Washington's great, Nick Clive Owens great, and just like all the, and then it's nothing but character actors. I think, oh, Jodyody jody Fosters in it too right right she's like a minor

villain character yeah good one yeah very good I'm sure that is that a Netflix is not screaming no idea I saw the theater he's the only than that the uh classic actor Christopher Plummer uh Josh again flipped that up for us, isn't it? Yeah, I don't know. But listen, the only Kevin Smith movie that I legitimately didn't like was Dogma. I don't have any opinion of Mollrats, I realized people really liked it, but I think I was, because I just like clurped so much, and clurched too for a sequel to Plumber. For a sequel to Plumber. Thank you, Christopher Plumber. Uh, for a movie that came out 10 years or whatever after the original movie, great sequel. I hear it's good.

You didn't see it, why haven't it's good. I really enjoyed it. I have no idea. I just haven't sat down to do it. How much did the town cost to make? Do we know that? 37 million. And it's made 70. So that's awesome. Really? I'm not going to see because it looks good. Yeah, I really want to see it. They say it's a it's like a freer consideration type film. Really? Yeah. I mean, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, variety says no question them all right. Well, we need to wrap up here before we go too long Okay, everyone go see Jack S3D so Jack S3D on the plate this week Mm-hmm, and I might be checking out inside man. You should see anything else. We need a plug I I would like to plug something that I finally have in my hands after all this time do it

It's not our thing, but I'm in love with it I have my black chat pad for my Xbox controller. Joe, look at this. Look how beautiful that is. Wow. It's gorgeous. I got a minute finally selling these. You should wear that like a necklace.

They're finally selling these things. Yes. I saw that in the box upstairs when you bought it. I was like, oh, I'm sure this was a happy day for burning. I'm so happy. Yeah, that's pretty satisfying. Yeah. That's what I just asked for.

That's it. Other way than that, we're still working on our event list a happy day for Bernie. So happy. Yeah, that's pretty satisfying. Yeah, that's satisfying. That's it. Other than that, we're still working on our event list for where we're going to be in 2011. We finally found a UK convention. Yeah, I look promising. I contacted them. We're talking. So hopefully we'll get that worked out.

And thank you to the Red versus Blue fans who sent that in. Don't ask them to have a nice day. Don't ask anyone to have a nice day if I'm over there. There you go. And we haven't talked about any behind the nice day. Don't ask anyone to have a nice day if I'm over there. There you go. And we haven't talked about any behind the scenes stuff, but I mean, we're bolting out of here to go to production and pretty much the next four days are solid production.

It seems like every week is like three or four days of solid production right now. Yeah, we're cranking. We're cranking. And then you have your thing Jeff, which is every single day. So yeah. And now you're going to do your legendary run on Halo Joyce uh...

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