Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #84

Episode Date: October 20, 2010

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twisted metal, streaming now only on Peacock. Welcome to the Risturty Park, with pretty gods, depth, jaw, and mouth. Listen as they discuss, some things like video game. Also, our bunch of stuff is totally recently. So sit right down and enjoy some cake. Well now I want to commit suicide. It was a sad song. Hey everyone, welcome to the podcast. That's like a super amp up song. Everyone's like super high-energy now, right?

It's like, it's like drowning pool or something. Traffling pool. Yeah. What the body's in there? Hey, I have a question. People commit suicide, right? And it's not funny when people do that. But it's stupid.

And a lot of people, like, in their teenage years, like I would say, I would wager that teenagers are the ones that commit suicide or attempt suicide the most, right? Yeah, they're pretty dumb. Getting serious about this, right? And when you're a teenager, I'm saying out of this comedy. When you're a teenager, no, I'm going somewhere with this.

I'm not coming with a life ring in about a minute here, guys. When you're a teenager, and you're all into music and shit, right? Because it speaks to you and it matters. And it helps you rebel against your parents and all that nonsense. What do you think the band is that the most people have committed suicide to? Is there a stat to that? Would it change over time?

I don't know. Or just classics people stole us into the Beatles every day. I'm sure people still kill themselves to certain Beatles songs, right? Maybe it peaked at some point. Maybe. I don't know. Man, I have no idea what you're getting in here. I don't know. This is an awesome start to find this. I'm just curious. Like, I mean, that's a somber, it's a somber thing, but I mean, they're like people listening to music all the time, right? I listen to music when I'm watching the dishes. Why not listen to music when you're curious? The cure?

You are like Mazzy Star or? Yeah. Okay. What is Mazzy Star? What is that? It's like a really somber sad sounding band from the 90s. Yeah. Mazzy Star?

You never heard of it. Feed into you. That was their big hit, right? Yeah. Yeah. You'd probably recognize was their big hit right that was it. Yeah, yeah. You you'd probably recognize that song but maybe not much else. Oh yeah, are we counting accidental overdoses? Sure. In the tally.

Sure. I guess they paint Floyd then. Oh that's a good one. That's a good one. There you go. I'm the declared on the drunk tank right now. See number one most suicided band. All right.

Pink Floyd. We'll do some research afterwards and we'll see what we can find out. I'm going to go contact our lawyer. It's Pink Floyd a very sui band. Sui band, I don't think so. They're not on iTunes, I don't think. I don't know if they really ever litigated against people, though. Do you hear Le Havvab with Gene Simmons?

Yeah. No. Gene Simmons is now the Metallica of 2010. Really? Like he just discovered the internet? No, he was like, yeah, he was at a conference or something like that. And he just decided to start talking about piracy and about how you should absolutely suit people.

If you find out they're pirating their stuff, you should take their jobs. You take their jobs, take their cars, take their house. Can I ask you a question? Do you guys honestly think anybody who still listens to KISS or Pirates KISS? Well I don't know but he was upset about it and then I think some people went after him and DDoS to his website and got angry and now they're threatening to do it again. I was a kid. I had KISS trading cards and I knew all their names and I would conjecture with my friends what they looked like under the makeup all that stuff. And I had all their names and I would conjecture with my friends what they looked like under the makeup all that stuff

Really? A friend who was a kiss fan way beyond when anyone was a kiss fan when they actually took their makeup off Right, and he was really excited about it. I know kiss really well. I know every member of kiss I cannot tell you a single kiss song If I could use later I learned that's what rock city what's the hey? I want a rock and roll all my yeah Yeah, I learned that was a kiss song. I go oh that's a kiss song I did not know that it was weird to say there's such a gimmicky band I agree that speaking of gimmicky they they might be the ultimate sellout bands too when it

comes to merchandise do you remember a couple of years ago they were shopping around they had the kiss coffin yeah they have everything yeah Gene Tim's talking about that you can literally buy a kiss coffin like you're a big enough kiss fan it's a coffin that has like kiss logo's airbrushed on it and shit. Wow. Yeah, so if you commit suicide to a kiss song You can then eternally rest in the kiss. I'll come back together. Yeah, it's all circular MN Gene Simms will sue you and take you to You're in a fucking ground And back out again

So I might have inadvertently pirated the kiss on just because I didn't know any of the shots. I wasn't aware of what they made. Yeah, Gene Simmons is there's always some guy who's gonna be, who's gonna take up, you know, that fight. I don't know if he's guess to take him to the fight so much as just being the target. Yeah, but he's, it's like they don't just randomly pick somebody, you know. Right. I mean, nice that they did. They get rid of a couple of bands. They'd be pretty cool. But, you know, yeah, it's usually somebody who starts talking about it. And, you know, all the artists, all the other artists kind of leave that person out to dry. Gene Simmons isn't easy guy to do that with because he's not, I'm not sure I'm irude, but he's not really that relevant.

Right. Right. You know, he's more like a reality show guy now. But, I mean, Metallica, when they're up in front of Congress, you know, testifying and kind of fighting for everybody, you know, I mean artists. There were a lot of artists who agree with them, just were spotted up at the... Not to have the sheet of the mouth. She'd been on them.

Yeah, there were only a few who I think came out and supported them. I think, at the time, the only one I remember besides Metallica was Dr. Dre. Additionally, was like, decided with them. Oh, yeah. was like decided with them. I think you still can't buy his stuff digitally. I could be wrong about that. I feel like all of that stuff is evening out because of convenience. Yes, I agree with you. It's more work to pirate than it is to buy something on iTunes. I would agree with that. I always wanted to give one of those guys where I didn't ever... One of the things that kept me away from piracy, especially for software, is I was never convinced

that while the kid was cracking it, he didn't also just add in like a super advanced worm that would take over my computer and send them all my data. I was wrong, Dr. Dre's stuff is on iTunes. But is it? Yeah. What you're saying happens a lot where if people download pirated software, it has, you know, back doors and trojans and other stuff added in to, you know, in to the cracked executable that a lot of people just don't know about. I think when there was a new version of Office for the Mac like two years ago, a Pirated version with a worm showed up on all the bit torrent sites. And people, and it's hard to get a virus on the Mac because you have to authenticate to install most stuff, but people authenticate to run the office installer, which also installed that Trojan at the same time. Right.

You know what else is hard? Getting a virus off of a Mac. Do you remember that one lady that managed to get a worm on an athlete, you and I had to help her? I remember that. It was only four hours. It was the worst. Time machine.

This was 10 years ago. Yeah, a long time ago. Well, it definitely is one of those things where I had we're using the new mic covers that I bought for you Uh, no, I bought you new mic cover. You did? Oh, that's nice. I was finishing out of my sound booth in my office upstairs And I went to go buy a mic stand. I saw mic covers. Oh, oh Yeah, next week next week on the drug tank podcast That are all different colored but um, I I don't know what to say about it. They I I've had so many viruses. I live with a woman who is my wife. I should say a little woman. But she will like she will click on

fucking anything, anything. I mean she's finally learned but man the first few years of her marriage it was like hey somebody sent me said I want to sweepstakes and I clicked on it. Now you know there's this girl who's telling me to play this fantasy game. It only costed $2,000 processing fee. We're gonna make $10 million. I mean, she would click on anything and everything. Like, look at this, look at this email. This picture is someone who wants to share pictures with me and they know me from high school,

but I can't see the name anywhere here. I'm like, God damn it. Of course, you click it. And I had to like, I had to partition God damn it. George, you click it, and I'd have to like, I had to partition off her computer from everything else on the network, just because she was awful. Which you ever be like, oh hey, just so you know,

I took care of that bank of America problem. No, that was another guy that I know that did that. He gave, he, uh, another guy that we used to run a website called Longhorn Nation, me and a buddy of mine, and he clicked on a PayPal thing to see the link. Oh, nice. Hey, you know, maybe we shouldn't publicize this, but we have to go through and do a re-education with our

people here, because a lot of our guys didn't know that when you get a link in email, that you should just mouse over the link and see instead of when you click. That's not possible, if you didn't know that. They didn't understand that the link you see in the email might not be the URL You're actually clicking like you can make the text appear one thing but make a URL be a note. How can you not understand? Oh my god and that for some reason they didn't understand also maybe the paypal would not register the URL mortgage dot check dot bis Dot SK dot SK right kid lord

So we work with idiots yeah we gotta be careful like a dot the security measures in place are not only to keep people out but it's to keep some of our people in like that a jail people into the network so they can do anything i mean just i mean you and i talk about a lot of security stuff i worried at the point where i'm worried that when i type in

my you are and i type it in that still they could spoof it. What is it called when they can come back and they can make a domain look like another domain? DNS spoofing. Yeah, DNS spoofing. Well, there's a couple names. DNS cash poisoning also, another name for it. That's what I was thinking of.

That's what I was thinking of. And where you just think you're on the site. I can't say how many times today I'm convinced that I'm on a site. I click through and I'm typing it in and there's somehow forwarding all my information as I'm typing it to the real place and pulling my info. Okay, there's a like Bank of America has that site key, which when it came out, I thought was stupid, but it's actually a good way to combat that cash poisoning where you log in to Bank of America. You just send your username and then they send back an image and a phrase that you've selected. Yeah, no, it's not.

So if you go to the fake page, they won't know what your image and phrases, but Bank of America sends it back. It's like a three-way handshake. You send information, they send information, then you send your password. Right. Then you think, too, where with their online banking, when we have to send a wire, they have a feature you have to apply for and send all this information and then you're approved for it.

And then when you go to send a wire, you hit a button and it sends you a code, a randomly generated code to your cell phone, and then you punch that in and then you can send the wire. That's cool. Yeah, it's really cool. It's like there's a little thing to people carry around that work for, you know, big companies, for 400 or 500 companies where they go on the road and they have those codes they type in or you know when you play World of Warcraft What is that they don't do that essentially the same thing you've never seen it?

I have an authenticator so when I log in I have to type my username my password and then the authenticator code Which changes like every minute? How do you get an authenticator code? It's on my phone You don't do that. He does do you you You do not do that. Yeah. For a world of warcraft. Yeah. For your fake cartoon monster. For my fake cartoon monster. Yeah. Hello, authenticator. I'll show you. That is insane. And then you see the little green bars moving and then when it gets to the end, it'll change. It'll generate a new color. Really? Yeah. Wow. Is it like, think of it at the time of clock? Somewhere in like a mountain bunker?

I'm sure it's synced with it's about to change. I'm sure it's it's synced with their servers like oh like a change when you register You you get assigned a code like a server code that you put in and I guess that's the server link to your account that generates your number You know, I gotta say it's it doesn't seem worthwhile, but it probably saves blizzard Millions of dollars in customer service. I'm sure. You know, from people calling it going, oh my god, I lost all my stuff. My cloud song's gone. I have my cloud song.

You know what, I should forward this to you, but I read a very, very lengthy article on Reddit that some guy wrote about a scan that somebody was running on, wow, where he was offered for 10,000 gold, he would pay 10,000 gold and get a mount where someone else can ride on the mount You might know what that is. Yeah, and He was working at the math of it where it was gold farmer that offered him for it and then they then he paid the 10,000 gold and

that They would refer a friend to get it and that the gold farmer would then have a referred friend account and he would give him them out, he'd pay him the money and it all worked out that way. And I was like how could they possibly make money on this because the new account is where you have to be on the service for at least two months. So it's it worked out to be about fifty bucks. He did like this long complex math to work it out to wear a gold farmer account. They said you get a new account for free that they can farm on.

Because the guy gives him 10,000 gold to seed it. And then he also helps him set it up. And then the guy has a head start for two months. And it was just like this long complex method. It's got math and wow, and a scam in it, Gus would love all of those. Awesome. You should get the guy in trouble.

Well, I just think I wouldn't want to be tied to a gold farming account as referred to this person. No, not at all. It seems like a bad idea. You should, man, the World of Warcraft forums are pretty serious sometimes with the number theory that goes into damage and attack rotations you need to go into and how to maximize your DPS and maximize the mitigation of damage on armor. It's crazy. Some of the formulas, like you'll see posts that are just, like, super long math formulas talking about, like, I can't even,

I don't even understand it, it's crazy. It's like the first minute and a half of Leroy Jenkins, essentially, before you get to, before you get to the V-joke of the video, which is the guy running in the ice screaming Leroy Jenkins, the first minute and a half are they're talking about probabilities. Yeah, that's all, all that stuff. I think in one point there's a 3.333 repeating. Repeating, of course. Repeating, of course. But, yeah, we talked about... No, but the current exchange for what is like a gold piece gold for these days? Like how much is a thousand gold?

Not much. Yeah, after Bernie Crusade came out, the gold really got devalued. Like it became a lot easier to get gold. So, I'll be clear what we're talking about here is you can actually buy in real world dollars or euros or whatever, you can buy fake currency in World of Warcraft. You can use real money to buy fake money, right? Which is against the terms of use, and you shouldn't do. But I think all that stuff really became devalued when, because after Burning Crusade, anyone just do playing the game, it was a lot easier

to get gold, so no one really wanted to buy it anymore. Wasn't there talking one point they were going to put that on a currency exchange? Like an XC or something like that? I had heard talk like that. It's stupid. I had an idea that I talked to Jeff about the other day. He did. Which, if it's a great idea, you can always edit this from the podcast and we can take it

and make bajillions from it. But you know what they don't have? You know how you go to XC for your currency exchange, right? So XC.com is where you can go type in, you know, euros and dollars and it'll tell you what the current exchange rate is or you type in, you know, $100 and it'll tell you that's worth five and a half euros or whatever it is today. And I thought it would be very cool if they had a function of that where you could compare dollars to dollars,

but in different times. That would be cool. You put in $100, 2010, and it shows you what it was worth in 1960. So like an almost like a reverse inflation calculator? Yeah, yeah. That's cool. Because I was watching Mad Men the other day,

and there was a deal where a guy had to come up with $50,000 in 1965, I think is where they are in the storyline. I bet that was a ridiculous amount of money. I yeah, must have been, must have been a ton of money and I was trying to figure it out and I thought it'd be cool if they had a currency exchange, but a currency exchange would be a time and you can figure out how much stuff was. And I can even do like a projection one where it will be worth in 2030.

You got me all curious now, I got to find out. What if $50,000 US in 1965? Yeah, I found one by the way. We might like to guess. Yes, I'm going to say it's worth about $125,000. I'm going to guess it's worth about $125,000. I guess once, wouldn't be doubled, and I'm going to guess $150,000. $346,000. Get the fuck out of here, really? $3,000, $1,000. So you could take $50,000 dollars Oh God, here really? 346,000 dollars You could take $50,000 to move to a South American country and live for the rest of your life in 1965 and luxury Probably

I'm not good enough, but I'm pretty sure we just made $200,000 somehow Thank you, congratulations Thank you, thanks That's crazy Wow, so it is $50,000 worth, 3,000, you said $340 Yeah, $346 So it's almost 600% more hundred percent more. Yeah, wow

Wow over what 45 years Yeah, I'm gonna do some other math. You're gonna be some way we can make money on it. So many times it doubled It doubled almost three times. Yeah, so five to hundred two hundred when that 200 400 so not quite that much This is your money. There's an investment rule that says your money will double every seven years Yeah, which I don't know if it's true or because they're not in our generation I mean his store they always say his story always say historically. So where's the word you'll ever hear historically? This is supposed to go up bidding back to the year right after the great depression Historically when you put your money in stocks. It's not supposed to catch on fire

It is to stay there when you put your money in stocks, it's not supposed to catch on fire. He's like, really? It is supposed to stay there. When you grow. You're in here with the sound, wow, wow. So you get a stock market awesome day yesterday. Yeah, yeah, good. Did you also read there's a story about Twitter and the stock market? No, what is it? There's some kind of engine out there where a guy developed where he can process Twitter and

The quote unquote global mood or something like that and he can predict the stock market based on What's being put on Twitter that sounds that sounds like a hoax was that on the onion like just positive Like I'll go in in I should be very careful. This sounds like a fucking onion story I should be very careful. This sounds like a fucking onion story. No, that's crazy. Once again, record the podcast on Wednesday, Apple's holding an event as we're recording the podcast, announcing stuff.

Oh, right, they're gonna announce a new OS X version, right? Maybe. Maybe a new MacBook Air. I will buy that. Oh, yeah? I'll buy it. You want to laptop again? Why don't I have a computer in my house?

And I hit the bar on my way to MacBook every now and then, and she's not. Actually clicks again? Why don't I have a computer in my house? And it's I hit the bar my wish MacBook every now and then and she's not actually clicks on everything We don't know with me doing that. Yeah, I won't use her. I'm what you should computer do anything Yeah, I can't I don't feel comfortable doing it We know that the Russians are watching your wife constantly Her fucking laptop probably are gonna satellite on the other house But did you hear that the the dude the jet blue flight attendant who, like, blew up on the flight, I guess, is going to plea to a lesser charge? Yeah, I thought they sentenced him, right?

He's going to avoid jail time. Did they sentenced him? Yeah, I heard about it this morning. He has to pay $10,000 in damages to get really. Oh, really? Yeah, I guess that's the cost of popping one of those things. I didn't hear, I guess, the sentencing. The last I heard about it was that he was going to, he was going to plea to a Mr. Meater. He said he wouldn't have to go to prison. Yeah, I don't think he's got jail time. I think he probably had community service. I didn't hear, I guess, the sentencing. The last I heard about it was that he was gonna, he was gonna plead to a Mr. Meter. He said he wouldn't have to go to prison. Yeah, I don't think he's got jail time. I think he probably had community service

I didn't hear about that, but yeah, 10 grand and damages. I think the original thing he was charged with was a felony. He could have gone to prison for like seven years. Yeah. Well, at least he's staying out of prison. 70 doesn't have a job, so I don't know he's gonna give me $1,000 from him. I'm sure he's resourceful. He'll find a way.

To me, it's another one of the examples of somebody that the internet takes up the cause for, and everyone is super interested in it, but when it matters and he's in court, nobody cares. He's probably like, hey, remember I was a big folk here, I was like, yeah, you know, New season of a Georgie Shore or a crew of everything without, sorry. We're all too busy with new Twitter now When you go fall in the mine How long will those minors in there like 60 days long time and they they came out and I They came out to their adoring families and mistresses waiting for them dude

You know what the craziest thing about that is to me. I didn't realize this. They were there for like 17 days before they were found. So they were just sitting in their waiting to die. They didn't think they would ever be found. And it was 17 days until they were able to, the authorities were able to locate them. That must have been a shitty 17 days. If I put that perforation drill through to them basically at that point. Yeah. That must have been a awesome moment when that drill came to the side of the cave or whatever they were in down there. Yeah. Yeah, that must have been great. They also weren't told immediately how long they would be down there. They were trying to figure out how to break the news to them that they could not get them out very quickly.

Everybody in the world knew for about a week before they did. Yeah, that's rough. They got about a head of schedule. I think they were supposed to get them out till December. If it's any consolation to them. And they each got paid $10,000. Did they? Yeah, each minor paid $10,000. Did they? Yeah, each, each minor got $10,000.

Wow. Like the one you were talking about, the guy with the mistress and the wife who both showed up, he gave his wife $10,000 and moved in with the mistress. Nice, life short, man. I guess so. I think that the, the mine company that employed them though, went bankrupt, so they're all, they're all out of

here. They're all out of work. And apparently a lot of them have been offered mining jobs in other parts of Chile But they'd have to move like 300 miles or something and I don't think any of those guys want to go back to mining But I think they're gonna get hired in a accountant and they're gonna do like a book and movie deal kind of thing I think one of them actually did go back to mining like right away He said more comfortable underground than a book ground and he wanted to continue mining really

He's called himself a mole I remember her one asshole he's probably not there was pick working the day too much chip chip to like cut it out for it pocket driving his crazy taking break they uh... pocket full of gold they also said that it cost about a million dollars a person to pull them out wow yeah there's no cost on rescue missions. That's why when somebody does something dopey, like takes a boat to a hurricane, you gotta charge those people. Because I mean, you got like 20 dudes risking their lives,

half the coast guards risking their lives to save you because you're an asshole. Aren't there some states and areas that do that now? Yeah. I guess they're like so budget strapped. If you require a rescue, they send you a bill for it. I think they do that with flood waters in Texas. Oh, really? Yeah, when they put out our warnings.

Yeah, if you drive your car into a flood and they have to go save you. Which by, we should be able to tell people of this phenomenon because they might not live in an area where they have this kind of thing. Their area is in Texas called low water crossings. And Texas is one of those places where, if it rains for about three hours straight,

something's gonna flood. Absolutely. There will be, there will be a river That was a creek and it's suddenly this raging torrent water got into somewhere or it'll be my basement That's not a joke man water is scary shit Mm-hmm if a lot of water starts moving in one direction one time. It's it's dangerous as hell Have you seen Jack? Yes yet? No, all right. We'll talk about it. It's fine. Well, no, no It's it's not something we should really talk about if you haven't seen Jack

But there's some water stuff in Jack as that people have seen it know about and All right, well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, was until I bought a house and then they were like, oh, you know, your drainage here is a little fucked up. Like, what does that matter? Like, oh, no, you got to worry about this. It's going to hit your house. It's going to soak this whole side, this wall. You can get water damage. And what do you do? Well, we got to reshape the ground and make it run this way.

Like, what the fuck really? Yeah, it's one of the major. I mean, whenever you see like a house going off a cliff, that's water doing that. Yeah, it's an earthquake or anything. It's just a little stream of water that, you know, eats away over time. I mean, water makes a great canyon. That's a a little stream of water that eats away over time. Water made the Grand Canyon. That's a good point. That's a good point.

Yeah. Wasn't overnight, that wasn't because of a flash flood. I know we talk about, sometimes about net neutrality and things like that, and we're always concerned about ISPs controlling what their customers can see on the internet, right? And locking them out of certain content providers. Did you hear there was a weird case, I think it was last week, where news corporation, the content provider,

went and blocked ISPs from accessing their content. That's cool. Why? I guess they were in like one of those negotiations with cable providers, and as part of the negotiation news core locked out, I think it was cable vision Yeah, cable vision from being able to access Fox dot com and any Fox content on who Lou dot com damn

Okay, this is the flip side of net neutrality that I've never understood has never come up before and I'm glad it has Which is in every other medium that people who provide the content are paid by the network who then supplies it to the customer We weren't you telling me that we that ESPN It's an outrageous amount of money from cable providers compared to everybody else wasn't me Well, anyway, they pay for it like even even we had a thing in Austin one time where time Warner lost NBC And because they would NBC wanted more money for time Warner to show their network and time Warner said we're not going to do it and so they shut off for like three months or a second month and a half I think. Yeah, it was not long. But so why on the internet, why is it that everyone provides everything for free and then suddenly now the providers are saying

we get access to anything we want and you're going to have to pay to come through us to the customers Bullshit, but without without Imagine if you had your provider whoever does let's say it's Cox or Rogers up in Canada or the UK whoever does it I guess you have some kind of social poth no big condos the royal family internet or something or a RFI There you go Her Majesty's Royal Internet Imagine if you got on that internet and all they had was their own news provided by their employees.

Like, they're shitty. It'd be like, AOL. Well, that would be the original AOL. Yeah, AOL. Yeah, AOL. And you didn't have Google, you didn't have YouTube, because YouTube didn't pay them, and you didn't have it.

That company would go out of business. They need the content providers. They got nothing without the content providers. Not a single thing. You know, if they didn't have Reddit, and they didn't have Red Vista Blue, and they didn't have YouTube and a bigger scale Facebook and things like that, why would you,

why would you have that service? Who would not? So why do they think that they can do this thing where they can like filter and people are gonna pay for more money to be on their service? I don't get it. I don't know why it's backwards. Yeah, it's fucked up.

It shouldn't, it shouldn't mean issue. Oh, we get to fight for net neutrality. It should mean when somebody does it like, yeah, go for it, we're not paying you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the customer will decide the customer will move to The place that provides them what they need and that's why Google paying Verizon is a huge stab in the back Because Google's starting to do that stuff. They're working out this deal with Verizon for prioritized traffic And whatever the hell they're doing. Well, however they're gonna phrase it. That's essentially what they're doing If all the content providers just goes, oh, you want to do that? Fine. None of us are going to pay you. So good luck. We'd love to watch

you go out of business. I actually might be affected by this and you might too. We both have time Warner at home, you know? Yeah. And ESPN is coming to Xbox Live very soon. And you'll be able to watch the ESPN, if you're gold, subscribe, or you'll be able to watch like thousands of ESPN programs and live sports and all that stuff, awesome stuff. But they've got to have that they have to have that arrangement with ESPN 3 worked out and time Warner doesn't so I don't think we'll have access to it No, you will not as a time Warner internet subscribers You will not have access to the ESPN functionality on Xbox live. Yeah, you just switch from ISP. Yeah, we're gonna. I'm gonna have to switch I just found this out the other day. And time order is a total monopoly in Austin.

I fucking hate them. Yeah. I mean, remember when we were watching the World Cup, that's why you couldn't watch it at home on the internet. I could not watch the World Cup at home on the internet. Because you were a time order subscriber. We could watch it at the office because we had AT&T. And I could watch it at home because I had that other provider. We had DSL at the old office. Now we've got time

order here as well. You've got time order in this office. So yeah, good luck. No ESPN for you unless you switch providers. It's aggravating as hell. Super frustrating. But it is one of the things it's, you know, if I was going to go back to the piracy discussion we had earlier where I thought was going to kill piracy was the fact that You know if people are downloading movies and TV shows You're probably doing that through a major media company either AT&T or your cable company like hawks or time order for us Or her majesty's Royal Internet cable vision in UK and they're gonna start to lose money on video and demand services Which are a big cash cow for them?

They're not gonna they're not gonna look up on they wow, we're losing on money on VOD, but all of you are over here running 20 gigs a month, you know, or in some cases two terabytes, a month of downloading. What are they downloading? And say, oh, they're downloading all the shit, they're not buying on video and demand. Yeah, I'm sure they figured that out already. Yeah, I'm sure they have as well. But it's going to be even more interesting as we see who's going to buy who, like with Comcast

Buying NBC, which just seems fucking ridiculous to me. Now you have an access provider buying the content provider. This makes me wonder like how they're going to shuffle up that stuff and how it's going to affect NBC's dealings with online distribution. So wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, back up here. Who's buying who? Comcast bought NBC Universal. Comcast bought NBC Universal Comcast bought NBC universal

We'll build okay, so then I wonder if that's gonna affect their deals with you know Hulu for just you know digital distribution Their iTunes distribution. It just seems like it's gonna fuck everything up to me. I wouldn't I would imagine and I don't know They don't publicize what these contracts are I would imagine that Hulu is going to have a very tough time, the next time that they try to renegotiate all those contracts so they can't have to try to renew them with these companies. I think a lot of them like why wouldn't NBC just make their own player and bring people to Hulu? I mean don't you kind of go to Hulu to will they NBC shows? They did those in the past and a lot of them went under. Well CBS does it and ABC does it. Yeah CBS is on Hulu now though.

Are they? Yeah. Well, I know ABC does. There's never been watches lost on ABC.com. You can watch it on Hulu. You can watch it on Hulu. How can you really? That's how I've been catching up on modern family. I have Hulu Plus and I just watch it all. Great show. Yeah, pretty good. Yeah, Hulu Plus is awesome. If there's one thing I don't understand, I really don't have any concept of these streaming models of what people pay to be on streaming services like Netflix Dreaming and Hulu they I look at the numbers on it and it doesn't make any sense to me and I watch everyone else doing it I'm just like I'll admit I kind of throw my hands at it go. Okay. I have to admit that I don't understand this Well, just stay out of it. I read an article

I think I afforded it to a while back that one of the big reasons Netflix does it is because they save a shitload of money on postage and And they actually make money. It's actually a lot easier to do it to sell to pay for bandwidth that it is to pay for the US males Yeah, which is cool. I mean, I guess there's energy involved But it's probably a lot lower cost and materials, but I don't understand from the content provider side Yeah, you know how like the deals and how they're worth it to them right I guess they pay a lot of money I'm gonna get a drink and then we're gonna talk about something fun. All right, okay Hey Jeff. Yes, didn't you do extra life stuff this weekend? I did I did the Jack and I and the Griffin and the pajama achievement squirrels came out of retirement

Put the PGA's out of retirement 24 hour Marathon of pulled the P.J.s out of retirement with a 24-hour marathon of for extra life. And we raised like $15,000. How did you ever manage that endurance to play video games for 24 hours? Dude, I'm gonna tell you right now, playing video games for 24 hours is a treat. Playing video games for 24 hours in the same room is Jack, not so much fun. God damn. Man, that guy can get on your nerves. It was good though. It was a lot of fun.

And what did it benefit? Like when you say you raised $15,000 was that like for a hospital or something? Yeah, like when you sign up, you pick the hospital that you want the money to go to. So I, Jack and I picked Dell Children's Hospital. Oh, okay. Children's Hospital here in Austin. So like you guys playing video games in that room over there raised $15,000 for Dell Children's Hospital? Yeah. Nice. Yeah, it's cool000 for Dill. Children's Hospital. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. It's cool. It's cool. It's a Millie's Hospital.

So. This movie's been a lot of time there. She's been there once. Uh, that was not fun. A lot of these charities going on these days. And I've got no kidding. Have you gotten a bunch of emails since the actual life thing ended? About people that thought it was really cool and want to make their own charity.

Why don't they want us to? They want us to help them and tell them how to do it. Yep. People should understand I have no fucking clue how to run a charity. I just signed up with an email address and then played video games. We didn't run the charity. Right. We had nothing to do with that. I'm sure there's a website.

I think it goes to extra life. Extra life. It comes up. It comes up every year after child's way too We get when we ever we send links to child's plan I'm sure pin your kid must get thousands of emails, too. Oh God. Yeah, where it's like I want to do my own charity It's like that's really great that you want to do that But there's already tons of stuff in place. Why don't you just go and like Jeff did and participate in an existing charity

Right exactly. Just do that. That's enough, you know. I agree. It's, I honestly, I don't want to be a downer because it's a very cool cause, but I don't, all these charities online, I haven't seen any books, open books on any of these charities. You don't know what they're paying their people.

You know, did you hear about Bono or what's in Bono? What's the UK, dude? You two do? Yeah, Bono. He's also from the UK So yeah, that was a little confusing Look at up real quick because this is numbers. I might get them wrong for sure something about his charity one has raised 15 to 16 million dollars and a hundred and fifty thousand dollars of the 16 million made it to people that's what Yes Look it up look it up it to people that's what yes look at up look at uh... that's a white left john shirat there that they

reported that only a hundred eighty four thousand of its total fifteen million dollars public donations was given to charity there we go what happened with the numbers by the way it was awesome more than eight million dollars was distributed salaries for one campaign employees and you know it's our unit was for that that's not what they do they raise awareness They're not there to distribute money to people in need they're there to raise awareness of issues and making part of the social fabric Wow, I got news. I'm aware that people need money. Yeah, I know I know it was the New York Daily News who reported it

I guess when you're making it when you say something like that I should give a source and it's no big deal They raise 15 million you you think you think you think of a charity raises 15 million bucks. There's a guy who's like walking 15 million dollars into Haiti and just handing it over to Bono. Is Bono available for comment on that? No. Like if I'm Bono, I would, I would write a check for 15 million dollars tomorrow to a fucking charity. I guess the way you work for myself apparently doesn't matter. Because it's like a month old story. What's the date on that that uh... the charity was established in two thousand two the date on this story was

earlier this month October third October third have you heard about anything of the week's about no clue and I I'm constantly on cnn.com and new times dot com and reddit and heard a word about it uh... that says scandal right that's a yes yeah i can especially from a guy who can I type it into Google that I've had bono charity It the auto-complete scandal fraud investigation your post. I mean bono's like the big humanitarian guy

That's always meeting with dignitaries and you know touring and povres nations and shit and so I I'm ashamed to admit I watched the show on tarash It's one of those shows that I watched like three full seasons of it on iTunes one time. So now I feel obligated to keep up with it. And there's a whole scene with this fictional movie star Vince is being bugged by Matt Damon and Bono. I don't say to say Bono, but Bono. To give him a cut him a big check for charity. And I'm thinking now it's like when they bug you for the big check, they're bugging you to pay their people. So there's salary, yeah. Yeah, no kidding. I don't know that we don't know that bono makes the money from it but he's got

a bunch of you the work for them that make me that is the name on the fucking plate it's pretty it's pretty crazy you're checks going to some some employees for one k and health benefits yeah a charity doesn't exactly work the way you think it does you know what i mean and it's that's why i would like to see i would like to see some open books on all these things absolutely like when you hear that the uh... c- the CEO of Goodwill or Salvation Army makes $750,000 a year, that's something seems off there to me.

It seems like if you're going to work in a charitable organization, I understand it's a big company and it takes as much to run it as it does for something else. But I think that's a guy who's going to work on that because that's what he wants to do. He's already had a career of 25 years as ae-o-s going to donate some of his time right to write a report but you know

you know a nominal salary build a big-fucking house because he's running salvation army or or i you know i don't know which one was but either good will salvation army guy was making seven hundred fifty and i'm looking for the uh... president c-e-o of the Boys and Girls Club of America received a million dollars in 2008. Living in a mansion made out of two dollars a day.

Boys and Girls Club, that's even still around? Yeah, I guess not. Somebody's taking all the money. Boys and girls go over to his club. I'm gonna pull a burning and get a drink too. Hey, I think some of this tea is good for you. Awesome. But remember this guy's when there was a big hubbub on the internet and this is going to go back a long ways for like 2003 when Katrina hit and something

awful.com run by low tax. They had servers that were housed in New Orleans. Why the hell you'd pick a colo in New Orleans? It's down to me. For the kitchen food. They were somewhere in Louisiana. And the servers were underwater. And I think we sent them a note saying, hey, if you guys need a host for a couple days, we'd be happy to try to figure out a way you guys can host an ours while you're finding a new co-location facility. And we never got our apply.

LoaxX did not return our email. But in the process of it, there is this, you know, the something awful community is a lot like Reddit, a little bit, a little bit meanier. There's somewhere between Reddit and 4chan. They're not as well. I know what starts merging anybody. They're all awesome. So there's something awful guys. They, they were like, hey, let's do something about this. This is affecting us and it's affecting these people. Let's start a chariotote. Let's do something, start raising donations for people who are affected by Katrina. Real people, not just servers and things like that. And so low tech is

put up a PayPal account to start collecting donations. He kind of caught on to this community movement and people just started throwing money into this PayPal account. Uh huh. I forget what he got up to. It was over $30,000. It was 10. It was in nine hours. It was tens of thousands of dollars in lia like just had nine hours super fast and then paypal shut it down they said this is not this is set up as a nonprofit account it's all was ungenerating

you know tens of thousand hours an hour this is the we're shutting down to be configured what's going on with the paper work and there was a huge hubbub and people are very angry about that but it really is it that's the right move to do you know You can't just set up a nonprofit organization call it nonprofit. They started accepting donations right like it was so ridiculous I remember that people on Farak were threatening to leave Farak if Drew didn't stop using PayPal right on the site right Like how ridiculous, but and people would not see, you know, comments.

It's a good to feel this emotional about it. Why don't you set up the right way and pay a couple days and donate? Of course. I mean, PayPal should have done something to work it out. So I don't know what happened to this money. Did it get refunded? No, no, no. They locked the account down and refused to let anyone else donate until they could verify

that it was illegitimate. Yeah. That's all they did. That makes total sense. But it was on business time and not on internet time. Over the next few days, they're going to work this out or whatever. And internet was like, it's three in the morning. We want to donate money right now.

Fuck PayPal. Let's burn everything to the ground. It was just, you know, people were caught up in an emotional moment. And obviously, when you're watching an entire city drown, too, and you want to help and there's a company like PayPal saying, you know, people were caught up in an emotional moment and obviously, you know, when you're watching an entire city drown to When you want to help and there's a company like PayPal saying, no, we have to do this the right way It doesn't always you know feel like the best move at that time. So Those people could have also just as easily donated to redcross.org, you know or a million other existing charities They could have but you know, there was you know, this wonderful guys wanted to do something awful

You know, they're uh, that's the other thing other two like yeah, that's just that that seems kind of The cherries of the we do I don't like the whole I can tallies Yeah, I know it seems almost egotistical in a way right seems almost promotional yeah Promotional there you know how I always feel about it and it always makes me feel kind of ski me to like they're like What can you promote it and put in your front page and we're gonna have teams and who can ever is most like? Yeah, I feel like we're like I to like they're like, well, can you promote it and put in your front page and we're gonna have teens and who can ever raise most? Like, yeah, I feel like we're like, I feel like we're competing for money and it feels like a competition and it's as charity.

It's not, you know, that's why I'm glad like they don't publish stuff from like the child's play, auctions and stuff like that. They just say how much they raised and that's it, you know what I mean? They don't call people out like, oh, you know, big props. $30,000.

Big props to the dude from Pop cap games to just bid 40,000 dollars on nothing those guys are baller that guy was I guess admit That was one of the most baller things I've ever seen in person is this dude who gets runs pop cap games dude Pop cap got to make so much goddamn money Yeah, they really do and this will be a hope with a guy who makes a ton of money like that, that he'll show up in an event like that and write a big fat fucking check. And he did. That I'm okay with.

If you're in a room with a bunch of other people at a private event, you want to write a big check, that's cool. I don't know. I would love to hear feedback from the audience on this, because I always worry like if we put a bunch of charity stuff on the front page, I guess we have to do it. We should use what visibility we do have and use that for a good cause, but at the same time I feel like we're like, hey, look what great guys we have.

Also, who are we to pick and choose which charities as well? Well, you've got to use something. Also, if you're promoting it, you're incurring the liability if something like that one foundation turns out to be the case. Certainly, Bono is attached to the scandal, right? Absolutely. Yeah, that's why I brought this up is that, you know, I'll admit we did not do. We have good faith because we know the guys running it. The extra life thing. Yeah, we have some experience with them. Same thing with child's play.

Same thing with child's play. And it's got a track record. It's been going for a couple of years. Yeah, we're operating on faith. Yeah. Essentially. But we think it's well placed faith, but at's play. And it's got a track record. It's been going for a couple of years. Yeah. We're operating on faith. Yeah. Essentially. But we think it's well place faith. But at the same time, it's like, you know, people should be careful.

Yeah, you never know. You never know. You never know. Yeah, no, it's definitely a tricky issue. And it'd be nice if people open their books because then other people can see it. Yeah. I think you're not profit. Don't you have to open your books like that?

I would think so, but then you think this bottle thing would have come up sooner. I guess so. Maybe. Oh, yeah, I have no idea how that works. I guess San Diego Comic Con's a nonprofit. They don't know. I don't know anything about their salaries. There you go. You're charity. I don't know. You drag Joel in here for this and find it. Just him and Haul and stammer over us and nothing will get said. And if you want to be charitable, there's probably nothing better that you can do than donate your time as well.

Money is great, but if you can donate time to do something. I don't think you have to because there's a whole conference you're going on with the US Chamber of Commerce right now where they are receiving donations from foreign outlets and they're using them to place Republican attack ads and they're refusing to open the books to show where the money's coming from. And they are no problem. And there are no talking about that. So, they add that attack Republicans, or they wouldn't call them Republican attack ads?

Well, they're largely attack ads at Democrats. Okay. Focus that Democrats. Or whoever, you know, but it's a well-known conservative organization and they are using the foreign or outside donations to fund campaigns essentially. Get a hold of a category two, you talk about the US Chamber of Commerce,

that is not a government organization. No, it sounds like a government organization is not a business bureau, not a not, attached to government or the public in any way. That's also, business bureau is also kind of weird, the way it works. We got contacted by them, remember? Like, oh, do you want to get listed and verified in the Better

Business Bureau? It'll only cost you only have to write us a check for you know whatever seven hundred dollars. Yeah. Then it will verify and you'll be in you know your customers will have a satisfaction of knowing you're associated with the Better Business Bureau. That's just such a fucking antiquated entity. You know. Yeah. You needed stuff like that before the Internet. You did. You did like 30 years ago. It made sense. Yeah. You needed stuff like that before the internet. You did. You did like 30 years ago, it made sense. Yeah. You watch dog groups.

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. It just seems like a relic at this point. Absolutely. Now I have reviews. I love it. I love when you look at reviews. Nobody rates anything two or three stars.

Everything is five or one. Or one stars. Yeah. Everything just be positive or negative. We don't need stars anymore. And that's it. Because everyone is like, I got this product, it was great. Maybe you'll get a four of like, I got it. It broke in three days, but what am I going to do? You know, and then there's a guy who's like, I bought this microwave and it became, it became my entire year. I wasn't going

to let it go. I was going to like, hi, like hire this company. I got three different microwaves sent to me for $120 each I worked it out after the third one. They wouldn't replace it. This is the worst company ever Here's the address of the customer service reps. I talk to here's their friends and families addresses and phone numbers Would call them and yell them to it's like dude. It's like Let it go. Let it go. It's a fucking microwave Come on take up another cause and there's there's one of those in every single Amazon Or anything. I love when like on the Amazon reviews people give stuff one star And they're like for the dumbest weirdest reason like the clerk looked at me funny

When I when I was looking at this once I love I love to you. It's always nice now that you can rate ratings Because they give a one-star going I could never use a product like this like why the fuck are you ready and you know it and you're knocking up high and why would you rate it or when like stuff isn't even out yet and already has hundreds of ratings it's like how is there possible they fans of Lord of the Rings remember they bombed the blue ray the blue ray collection for Lord of the Rings because they were putting out the non-extended versions first. Right. And they were going to hold back on the extensions.

What a surprise. I bought it. Totally fine. Nothing wrong with that Blu-ray set. You buy a lot of physical media, huh? Not really. No. You bought Lost. I did buy Lost, yeah. You found out more stuff about that Lost thing, didn't you? Yeah, there were more things. I like it came with a black light that I you know, I knew about the black light, I didn't think there was anything to it,

but if you shine it on certain pages in the disc inserts, it reveals like hidden messages and drawings and stuff. It's pretty cool. Yeah, pretty cool. There was a lot of stuff in that box. Very true to the story. I mean, I don't know why I guess I like there's some stuff that I want to see, like streaming HD over there and it's fine and all, but there's some stuff that I want to see and see it well. Like lost, looks okay, but it looks way better when you're watching it on physical media. You know what, while we're talking about streaming, I had a bit of a bone to pick with my dear Apple.

I recently upgraded to an Apple TV. I was very excited about yours, Bernie, that you got the little tiny one. And so I went and I rushed and got one and I set it up there the night. It's got some flaws. Nope. It's got some annoying flaws. You can't purchase anything through Apple TV, through the TV. You can only stream stuff that's rentable.

And the rentable catalog is smaller than the actual iTunes rentable catalog. Like I guess I've got some licensing to work out there. And so if I want to like say buy an episode of always sunny, I have to go to my computer, buy it, download it. Then I can watch it on Apple TV as opposed to zoom where I can just buy it and stream it instantly. I found it to be from a purchasing standpoint, a lot more trouble to use than zoom.

So you would say one star. I would say one star? I would say. No, I still like it. I like the YouTube functionality. I like the Netflix functionality's way better. It's got the search in it. It's really cool.

I just am annoyed with that because that's how I watch all of my television by purchasing it, purchasing it, and streaming it. And I can't really easily do that with the app TV. That seems to know. Kind of bummed. My vector has been totally different there because I was one of those people who got trapped on iTunes.

That was a smart move on Apple's part. They got the library. I bought all my crap on iTunes and you can make all the arguments about DRM that you want to but it was just easier for me to buy iPhones, then to buy Mac and then buy an Apple TV because I don't have my digital library anywhere else. Here's a spread out. Mindspread out and sucked. Yeah, you have a really confusing.

I do. Part of why I got the Apple TV was to start to consolidate and fix that, but it's just not as easy to use for the person who plans to buy and stream stuff. Isn't it? So, I wonder how what they're going to do is I believe Zoon software is coming to the Mac with the later this year with the launch of Windows Phone 7. So I wonder if they'll have some kind of Zoon app as well that you could use on there. I don't know that Apple would approve it, but I wonder if Microsoft would make it to try

to get their marketplace. They have a piece of hardware. I can imagine they wouldn't approve it. Does, am I wrong? Microsoft doesn't put a blue ray Player anywhere near the Xbox and and there's no blue ray drives in any max which fucking bullshit right? It's because they have to pay Sony, right? I don't know if that's the case if that's the real case Well, the status is the physical media is dead Apple says physical media is dead and Microsoft says the Xbox is fine I would agree

I always do need to one of those companies wanted to pay licensing fees to Sony. You might be correct. Not that I blame them, but at the same time it's like I really don't really miss it on my, I really don't miss it on my, I just don't miss it either place, but I would like to occasionally like throw a blue ray disc into my computer. Yeah. I would.

And the fact that I can't burn a blue ray, You know, I can't create content for our max blue ray I mean, that's crazy. Yeah, we built in that's crazy. We bought a third party external solution that works But you should be able to you know get it all From one place and it should just work. Yeah without resorting to external shit Did you Did you guys see that I guess now the PS3 and the Wii have disc free Netflix streaming? Yeah, I saw that. Funnily came out.

Started this week and I believe also they started doing Dolby High Definition audio on the PS3 and Xbox 360 to get it soon. There you go. Two things happen this week with Brandon. This is my favorite part of the game. Two things happen with Brandon's week. The first is that he went to go play little big planet and he original. Yeah, original one. Okay. So clearly he hadn't played it

in a long time, right? Took him 40 minutes. Was he okay with that? No, he said it was terrible. He said it was really awful. And he said there was like 15 updates since the last time he played it. He said, sort of lies all updates sequentially. Yeah, when we talked about this last, he said it was the gamers fault for not playing the game more frequently that they had to update. They would have to sit through an update like that. So it is fault.

What a bullshit appointment. OK, go ahead. Gamers fault. Well, you know, the PS3 does the thing where, let's say, there's version 1.0 of the game. And there's six updates along the way. And eventually, you get to version 2.5 of the game, if you will.

On most things, wow, the Xbox. If you put into 1.0 version of the game, it takes you from 1.0 to 2.5. Right. PS3 doesn't do that. It takes you to 1.1 to 1.3 to 1.5 to 1.7 to 1.8. Oh, really? If you watch some all being applauded,

you're like, give me a fucking break. And it took 30 minutes to do it. The second thing that happened this week, the microwave stopped working. And we had to buy a new microwave which is why I was looking up on Amazon microwaves and so Brandon was the guy who discovered now the microwave broke because he's running stuff in it without without anything inside the microwave to prove to us that it was

he broke it by running it with nothing and it's not only he broke that's all we know he said it's no big deal nothing will happen the micro wave is now dead what the fuck I didn't know that we have a new micro wave now because the old one all of a sudden stop functioning out of the blue so after we talked about it you know I looked it up and I was like does microaving does running a micro nothing in it fuck it up the answer is sometimes depends on the way the micro is made. Sometimes you can run it, okay, they don't advise it in any case, but sometimes you can run it okay with nothing in it, but other times it will break and destroy the microwave. So the

answer is most likely he fucked it up by running an empty. Would you care against which version of that micro if we have our head? It was like on multiple sites. It was like on a, it was like one of them was like on the it was like on a some government side I can't remember what it was like consumer safety Website telling you not to run your microwave and nothing in it. What was the deal with microwaves and pacemakers They should always have that time. They don't have it anymore. Oh, yeah, I don't know I guess maybe the shielding they can't figure out the shielding appropriately yet Yeah, maybe that they change pacemakers so that they're not affected. I don't know. So you have to get a patch for your pacemaker. Hopefully it's not a Sony

pacemaker. Yeah, we're keeping up to date. What does a pacemaker do? Does it make your heart beat? I think it emits electrical charges every now and then to keep your heart beat regular. It doesn't make your heart beat, but if your heart starts to have an irregular rhythm, it discharges and puts it back in a rhythm. Like a mini-diffibrillator. That's crazy. Mm-hmm. That's crazy. That's awesome. I can imagine, meeting one of those or having gone through an event in your life where you're like,

okay, now I need this piece of technology in me and I hope the battery doesn't run out. Shit, no kidding, right? Stuff it's made well. There's no way. You have the wires sticking out of your chest with a little double A or 9 volt hanging off. I hate anybody. What do you get a little battery light on it, too?

That's essentially what Iron Man has to deal with all the time, though. I know. You bring up an excellent point, man. I just saw Iron Man, too. It's not on Blue Ray. How was it? I still haven't seen it. I still like the first one better. Yeah, but it's good. Iron Man 2 is, you know, I love Iron Man so.

I'm Robert Downing Jr. so perfect. I see that they've, that's like their new movie to show off HDTVs in stores. Now, like I go and I see Iron Man 2 on those TVs all the time now. How's Mickey work doing? I mean, he held up well. I'm Blu-ray, you know, as well as he could. What's he doing now? I don't know. I'm sure he held up well. I'm gonna play, you know, as well as he could. What's he doing now? I don't know. I'm sure he's doing something.

He's had a resurgence. He sort of, I mean, he did that wrestler thing and it seemed like, wow, Mickey Rork is back in a huge way. And he was awesome in the wrestler. Yeah, he was fantastic in the wrestler. He was in the expendables. But it seems like the part that he got from that though was iron man too, like that was the big.

Yeah, come back. Yeah, that's a big, that's a big part big part is John Favreau to the story at the screening where Mickey Rorke suggested the character have an animal to humanize him when he has a bird and John Favreau cut him off like as fast as he could got got to bird as quickly as possible just so that he wouldn't suggest like a small dog or you know you knows what else you know we walk around with a miniature teacup Chiwawa didn't want to didn't want him to go to Joel Schumacher Superman route where he wanted to give Lex Luthor a puppy what yeah that was but one of the in the old Superman scripts you know back when they were they were kicking him around when Schumacher was involved yeah that was one of the things was he thought Lex Luthor should have a puppy and he wanted to like have this little dog

I've never heard that yeah I don't know that's also he also wanted Spider-Man to fight or one of the things was he thought Lex Luthor should have a puppy. And he wanted to like add this little dog to follow. I'd never heard that. Why? Yeah, I don't know. That's also he also wanted Spider-Man to fight, or Spider-Man. He also wanted Superman to fight the giant spider, robot spider. There's one Kevin Smith was right in the script.

And he was like, I'm not putting that in. And then conveniently the big boss in Wild Blood West, which was the next Joel Schumacher movie, was a giant robot spider. Is there a giant robot spider like in Superman comics? Is that like one of his men? No, that was part of the point. It's like they're in the giant robot spider is there a giant robot spider like in Superman comics is that like one of his No, no, that was the point is like they're in the giant robot spider. Yeah, there's like Superman doesn't typically fight giant robot spiders Not probably the point he has it's possible. I'm a man over the course of the last 90 years That's ridiculous 80 years or so. Well, I'm that seems like they were

They did make a couple of bad superman movies, but it seems like they had the opportunity to make many more terrible superman movies. Oh, they stayed away from them. Like that one, the one we talked about before, we're Nicholas Cage, a superman. That was at the same time. The same one? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, um, have you played Uncharted? Yeah, I played Uncharted 2. I never played the original. Have you played Uncharted? Uh, I played through like about 20 minutes when you were showing me how cool it was, and it was awesome. It was awesome. So they're making an uncharted movie. And there's a big push online to make a...

Naked Infillion? Play a... Well the dude looks just like the... And he acts like it too, I mean, it's literally... But it's kind of strange to me because... Why not use the actual actor? Who does look like the character? And who plays the character now?

They'll be all like. Does he do like screen workers he just a voice actor yes name is no one north yeah no one north he's in every video game that's ever made does he does no one North look like that like was that no one North's face I mean I could buy I'm looking at it right now it's the first time we've seen him I could totally buy it as Nathan Drake and plus he plays the character it's the same voice and it's the guy who plays Nathan Drake I will say this that is the star of that game to me is voice acting We've talked about this. Yeah, that's what you like about that game

Absolutely, and that's why they're making you into a movie no north was Romeo in ODST. Yep. Oh, was he really? Yeah He's in all I bet I bet you could name like five triple a title He's in all I bet I bet you could name like five triple titles. He's a lot of stuff. So it's not really work with him on a game that worked at the monotony. I see a sense of people too. Lazy. Yeah. I don't know the enough of a lot of stuff. So what's this? Does he have any screen credits? He's in one an episode of modern family, I guess. What was it? Donald Flume in the episode on guard. Yeah. I mean, I clearly haven't been against the nation filling. I think Nathan filling is awesome.

And he would be great as Drake but it's kind of one of the things it's like This guys are doing it doing it well. I mean well, you know, it's like when they made a firefly movie You didn't wonder who was gonna play the part of Mal in the movie right because there's a guy who already plays Mal right It just makes it I guess there's no one makes the connection between voice actor and Who the on screen actor and it goes back to our previous discussion talking about whether or not people who do voices in video games I'll ever get respect as being there to be as big as you know traditional on screen actors and this proves that That's not the case at all because no one's even thinking about him

No, not even he's not in part of the discussion He would have to be like the star of video game voice acting too like the most recognizable Voice actor in video. It kind of looks like a cross between Nathan Drake and Seth McFarlane Yeah, and I've seen the footage. I mean to me it looks like the guy They have bonus footage on the first uncharted that you can unlock what it shows there behind the scenes of it's all mocap and to me it looks like You know, it looks like the same scene, but're in a, you know, a plywood car. This is a little model car acting all out and to me he looks like the guy and, you know, his actions are what are translated to mocap and yeah.

Look at me wrong. I like Nathan Phillian but you're right if they already have the voice and they already have someone who does it. Why not just don't rock the boat. If it ain't broke, right? Where are you using all these phrases? Don't rock the boat. If it ain't broke, right? Where are you usually going to phrase this? Don't rock the boat, if it ain't broke. That would dance with him on the brunette. That would be a good position to be in, if that were the case, because Nolan North would be in like 400 movies. He'd be in every video game adaptation.

He'd be like, I believe I was the main character of Dark Void. Jen Taylor would be uppercut against herself for every part on the planet, for playing Cortana and Princess Peach and all that. But it's funny too, like let's say they make Uncharted, right? Let's say they cast anybody. Let's, you know, let's say the cast bread pit

to play Nathan Drake or brain phraser or somebody like that. Then the movie becomes a big hit. Makes $200 million, $300 million. Then they go to put out Uncharted 3. Good question. Who plays Nathan Drake in Un charted three? Right. Pride pit, you know, it's very rare that a movie star will reprise their role in a video game. Honestly, I don't want to see an untarded movie. I want to play an untarded game.

Comment crazy. I enjoyed those games so much. I mean, like if you look at it as a movie like the story, it's like an Indiana Jones movie or whatever. I mean sure it was it was fine, but it was, I think it's much more fun as a game. It's like a cross between Indiana Jones and Rimo Williams. I remember Rimo Williams. Yeah. I think what does it call Rimo Williams, the adventure continues? Is that what it's called? The adventure game, the adventure begins. It was that thing that people do. It's like, they, oh, clearly, it's gonna be a huge franchise. Fred Ward. It was awesome. Yeah. I love people do that when they say, like, call something part one.

It's really ambitious. You know who else did that was a Buckaroo bonsai. They had at the end of the movie, I don't know if you remember the Peter Welle movie, Buckaroo bonsai, but at the end, like they say, as the titles, as a credits role, they go, stay tuned for Buckaroo bonsai too, and they already had a title for it.

Nice. Are you staying tuned? Still waiting. Back to the featured, did that as well staying to still waiting back to the future good that as well I think the back future I think man. Did you see last week they released I guess more of that Eric Stoltz footage As more than fly. I guess guys the 25th anniversary back to the future you should probably explain that yeah I guess Eric Stoltz was originally supposed to be Mario McFly and they filmed for five weeks with him Well, he wasn't originally it was originally supposed to be Michaelael j fox but michael j fox back that or really and so then they they replaced them with the air extolts

then michael j fox's obligations freed up and he was able to come in and so they they feel for five weeks of air extolts and have a lot of footage i think a couple of stills in a little bit of it but i guess uh... they released a whole bunch more of the twenty-fifth anniversary dvd it's crazy i mean i think they filmed a lot in five weeks. They must have filmed a lot of the movie. And he looked really good. I thought it's Marty McFly.

Yeah. I wonder how bitter he is about that. I guess they said they had interviews with, I guess, like Spielberg and Zamekis talking about how they just, you know, they did all the film. They were looking at it and they didn't feel the energy. They said they didn't feel right to them. So they went to the studio and asked if they could reshoot all that. I couldn't couldn't I mean I couldn't imagine a more perfect person for that role than Michael J. Fox

It's what we all know at that point in time. Yeah What is the best Eric Stoltz movie? It doesn't have to be an Eric Stoltz movie. I mean because he was in Pulp fiction. He was great in Pulp fiction He was great the drug dealer in Pulp fiction. Yeah, but I would say I like the prophecy a lot But he was obviously he was in that the Christopher walkin Yeah, I think wow, I hadn't thought about that in a long time I would say my favorite Eric Stolz movie is Memphis Bell But he was in I mean I've never seen The whole thing is a better movie, but he's a bigger part of Memphis Bell

So you know, it's about a Bomber crew in the world in World War II and I think if they fly 25 missions and live Through all 25 missions bombing over Germany then they get to go home like they retire the Metro 25 mission I can't like catch 22 and they would be essentially the first people to do this No one has made it as far as the Memphis Bell has and so it's their it's their last mission. I'm having a I'm having to look through His filmography to figure out my favorite My wife would definitely say some kind of wonderful or yeah, there's a pretty in pink pretty pink. He's not a pretty in pink Was it all I think he's pretty pink. I think he's Molly ringwolds boyfriend in pretty pink

Let's see no he's not pretty in pink. Yeah, no he's not no I'm gonna I'm gonna have to say mask. Oh, yeah, he's a mask Eric Stoltz is not in pretty pink. No, no Does he play blame in pretty I'm looking up pretty in pink now? Blane is played by Andrew McCarthy. Oh Classic mistake. Yeah, I can see how you'd make that mistake What is Eric Stoltz is a he kind of disappeared like he was in that he was one of those dudes that like I lump him together with a guy named James LaGrosse where it's in the 90s every independent film I saw had Eric Stoltz and or James LaGrosse in it and then they just kind of disappeared. But he's in that show Caprica, right?

Eric Stoltz is? Yeah. I have not seen that show. You watched Battle Star. Did you watch the entire run of Battle Star? I did not watch the final half season or whatever it was. I did not watch the last five episodes. I watched was. I did not watch the last five episodes. I watched the cast and crew singing along the watch tower.

Oh my god. And decided I was done with it. You missed the whole last season then. Okay, is that what I missed? Pretty much. Yeah, I think it's not streaming now. I may go back and watch it. By the way, I will agree with you.

That was fucking terrible. I thought that's it. I'm done. I know I've invested three years or whatever into the show right now. No. That was might be bor bar none the worst narrative device I've ever seen in a series I mean ever where they heard the song and they were all singing it and that's how they all determined who was a Sylon all of a sudden

Terrazy like and that was like the secret they've been dangling out there for so long and then all the sudden just like oh here Go it was showing the premise of the show who's a salon and who's not. Yeah. And they used the worst, worst possible way to explain who the final silence were. Did you ever find out like they were still like to because they lost me at Spacescope. And then I came back in, I came back in literally for that episode, the all long watch episode.

And then I was like, I just bug it. I'm out fool me once, shame on me. Or you, shame on somebody. I can't fool fool. And fool me, K.A. Fool me once, shame on me. Or you, shame on somebody. Careful, fooler. And, uh, fool me, K.A. Fooled again. But, even at that point, there were still like one or two silence that had, they were dangling out there that hadn't been...

There was still dangling like half of them. Had, uh, did they, did it ever turn out, was it like a dama, uh, silence? No, they added, they added a 13th silence or something like that. They added another one. They had, I don't know, I stopped asking by them. And then they revealed who it was. And it was a character that really wasn or something like that. They added another one. They had I don't I can buy them and then they revealed who it was and it was a character that really wasn't all that important, but it did fit into the whole, you know, it did fit in well. The problem was the first season of Battle of Sarkylite to go

so good and it's so well. Awesome. With the reveal of a sion, it that was great. It began really well too. That mini series where they're jumping, continually jumping and running. and running the first episode The first episode so good like every 33 I rewatched that the other day I was like I was actually sitting on home was like man I really want to watch that episode and I watched on Netflix. It's awesome tremendous great great idea After the podcast will you tell me who that person was? Yeah, well, I will I mean you want to you want to like listen if you should that is you don't want spoiled for you

It's it's a couple years old like don't don't listen for the next 15 seconds. It was Sal's Sal's wife. Oh, oh, that was always kind of suspect who died. Yeah, yeah Yeah, she died and then so that she was going off the show for like two seasons Mm-hmm, and I actually stopped talking because I don't want to ruin it. It's be like it might be back It's it's their fault. I mean, I haven't seen it. Not even I won't get mad. Fucking my fault for not watching it. Oh, you didn't know that?

No, but I mean, it makes sense. I think that's the best. There had always been speculation about that. Oh, really? OK. Fair enough. But they were really great. I liked all the characters on there.

I liked all the actors on the show. There was one or two that kind of went nowhere, but that kind of happens when it was a series stuff drops off, but I liked it overall I like that guy that played the chief so much. He was great. Yeah, Saul right was named. No, no No, the ball was the exo the mechanic guy mechanic who um Grace Parks Oh God damn, what is his name? The character's name. I don't exactly know what you're talking about.

Yeah, I don't know. That kind of looks like a, like, are you lying? Kind of, yeah. Like a sober, are you lying? It's a sober, a successful, inner, are you lying? Yeah, what was his name? You gotta look it up, guys. I'm looking it up, I'm looking it up,

take me a second. IMDB has really killed all those conversations, hasn't it? You no longer feel like anything. It really does, isn't it? Thank you very much. Chief Galin Terrell. Tyrol. Tyrol. Tyrol. Well, that doesn't resonate with me at all. Galin very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

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The boy uh-huh Still a minor character, but I guess they just recast the actor But they cast the kid who plays little bill O'Reilly on the inner I might see the kid. I'm just like why did they cast him? It's so draws me out of the moment because I want to go You are I see the kid. I'm just like, why did they cast him? It so draws me out of the moment because I want to go, you are a douchebag, you know, or whatever. There's this kid who online, who would imitate Bill O'Reilly, a conservative commentator here in America.

And the kid was great. I mean, really, really funny. And it's just so weird to see him show up in something legitimate like that. Not that what he was doing before was legitimate, but you know, or he's actually playing a partner in a drama series. By far though, best show on TV is Madman.

Yeah, best show on TV. It has ups and downs, but it is the best show, man. I'm still in that place where I watched the whole first season, loved it, was waiting for the second season to come out and then I got distracted and never went back to it. My wife and I were talking about that, man. You know, we're watching this last episode. We know it's gonna be a year or a year and a half

before there's any more episodes. Yeah. When TV shows just come out in the fall. Remember that? Yeah. That was kind of cool. So Prano's ruined that. It is, it is.

Yeah. So Prano's ruined it. They would take fucking two years off or whatever. Also now, it seems like every third week there's no show. Have you noticed that? Like I watch all my stuff a couple days late. I have a rotation where I go, okay, well now it's time to watch Running Wild,

now it's time to watch SNL, because they're out, now it's time to watch 30 Rock. And every week half of those shows aren't new for some reason. It drives me crazy. I gotta say, with lost, there was a lot of times where they do a bigger deal, and I'd be like, oh, who's that?

What is this again? I had to go back and read up on the internet as to why I should understand who this person is. Why do you care? As much as I love the sopranos, we used to have like sopranos watching parties and all that shit back in the day, I didn't watch the final season because at that point, it was so far off my radar,

I just couldn't be pulled back into it. I sat down and watched the final episode because I felt like I had to do that. But yeah, I missed the entire final season. Leaving up to the final season, I had actually I had to do that But yeah, I missed the entire funnel leading up to the final season I'd actually got all the previous seasons on Netflix and watch them also I remember and I finished like right Is it's that final season started? Smart question file season through you should do that with madman. That's the way I should watch shows now

It's a good idea. Yeah, I did that with loss. I enjoyed the last Three episodes of lost because I caught up on two seasons right before it and it all made sense to me Trying to remember anything. Oh, the fuck I'd say they were lost. I still haven't seen the final episode of the lost. Oh really? No, I just know about it because I had you guys tell me about it. But I haven't watched it. That's a great episode. Well, the last, what did you think of the last episode of the Superannus?

It was fine. I liked it. I didn't have any problems with it. There was, I think we maybe even talked about this before. The editing was a little... How do you end that show you know It's it's it's just a tough thing to do You're either gonna go to prison or I mean Yeah, whatever we talked about it. I'd say it's show that I really liked that I gave up on was the wire I am still uh, I still haven't finished watching season one, but I love it. Love every second. I see of it But weird. Yeah, it's really weird

You just get taken away and then it's hard to it's hard to find time in your busy life to get back to it, you know So Jeff and I laughed our asses off I'm crying right Through whatever 90 minutes of Jackass however long it was We were that really nice movie theater with the big We were that really nice movie theater with the big Only seats 40 people and we were Jeff and I were just cackling like maniacs the entire time I but I guarantee you there were 36 people in that well 38 cuz our wise boy hated us too

That do wanted to kill us. Were you like the only two laughing? Oh, yeah people would like chuckle and there would be like some You know like some polite laughter, but I was like I was going to fall I'm pulling at the screen And then they were'm playing it the screen Talking about repeating like did you see what he just did? Oh, no Like don't go to it don't go to the donkey, you know all that's okay. Bye-bye Let's so we don't spoil too much. Let's talk about two stunts they did you pick one. I'll pick one And so you talked to you mentioned the donkey one. I'll talk about the donkey's that Just because it's a stunt revolving air and McGarrity and a donkey and it's it's not the best stunt in the movie or anything

but his reaction is One of the craziest things I've ever seen. I've never seen a person shake in the way that he shook doing the stunt It was like it was bizarre dude. We're really funny. It was my the most scared. I've ever seen a human being Yeah, I'm waiting for the I don't want to spoil it for you It was bizarre dude really funny. It was my the most scared. I've ever seen a human being. Yeah I'm waiting for the oh I don't want to spoil it for you No, okay, they play only talk about two they play that they play the game called pin the tail on the donkey So they blindfolded Aaron Macarity Wow Adam is underwear and he had like a thing he had to put on a donkey

He had a pin on the back of the donkey. I don't know. Maybe he didn't have to pin on it But he never got close. He never got close Oh and he and the donkey kicked him, and then he had to do it again, and that's when he started shaking, and they're pushing him forward, and he didn't want to go, and the donkey kicked him in the dick. Oh, man. It was so great. It was really bad.

I think the other, I like the animal stuff. I think more anything else, because animals are just terrible. And this probably is the best I'm talking about, but it's the one that I remember the most, which is they want to know if music would sue this after me. So they gave Steve a tuba and Ryan done a trombone, and they got in like a corral with a ram. And he's trying to play this trombone like, a ram is just fucking,

it was just plowing right and done over and over again it didn't seem to matter it wasn't even interesting Steve Steve got in here and helped oh my god help he was dying and Steve got his pants caught on the fence and he couldn't get in there

they're convenient waddling on Ryan's that was fucking awesome that sounds fucking awesome That was a little waddling on Ryan's butt. Fuck him up dude, it was so gay. That sounds fucking awesome. Gotta gotta see that movie. So good. So good. I wasn't a shoot, they are not afraid to make We-Man fly.

Do you remember in one of the previous Jackets? I don't know if it was the TV show or one of the movies? When they put him on a parachute in front of a swamp fan? Oh right, right. Jackets shoot. It was a swamp coach with a huge fan. I, right. Yeah. Jack has to do it. Yeah. He has a swamp coach with a huge fan. And remember how he flipped and flew across the water?

That was amazing. And there's some stuff like that with me, man, in here. And I, you know, I hope those guys are making tons of money because they are, they are just killing themselves. They did a midget, they're trying to little people bit in that movie that is unbelievable. That'd be awesome.

I didn't think I was gonna like it, but it kept getting worse and worse. And so many years ago, I'm gonna chance to go check it out. You should definitely go see it. You gotta see it in the face. They made 50 million bucks opening. I was about to say it's like a October record.

Highest opening, October ever. Yeah, and they deserve every penny of it. I hope they get some of that money. You should be prepared though. They do a lot of poop stuff. I agree with this. Yeah, they did an uncomfortable amount already and Jack asked to do much.

They do too much. They went, yeah, the poop stuff is worse than Jack asked to, for sure. Yeah, they did they did an uncomfortable amount already and jack asked Too much they went yeah the The poop stuff is worse than jack has to for sure and there is one scene that made like Griffin Who's got a pretty strong stomach had to leave the theater because she was gonna throw up? Wow don't bring it up I'm not gonna start wretching Bernie Bernie couldn't handle it didn't I wasn't gross to me, but I mean I wouldn't do it I got a gross I Should that watery? It's pretty good. All right. Well, let's go ahead and wrap up I mean I wouldn't do it. I'm gonna go get some fresh air.

Alright well let's go ahead and wrap up so Bernie can go get some fresh air. Alright that's good. So gross. I bet I can make him puke by talking about it. I don't want to talk about it. Alright well thanks for listening. No problem. Terrible.

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