Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #87

Episode Date: November 10, 2010

Burnie Griffon and Gus chat about crystals, pron and airplanes Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Twisted metal, streaming now, only on Peacock. No links to the devil and the coming team today from the Zeppelin. Wee-line Mexico! I got a Povia. Black Jack Pershing's on the scene. What about that Delaya in the battlefield on a ramp? We went to the submarine race. Hey everyone, how's it going? Fucking fucking fucking theme song stole my intro. Hey dude! That wasn't me, that was the song. You're being misled people.

You guys do. I was starting talking like, wait a second. So basically, he just added a bunch of static to it. He added a bunch of static. It's the least song, ish entry we've ever had. And then he stole the Red vs Blue theme song. The word you're searching for is musical. At least musical? You know that whole A-L thing.

I can't believe you actually selected a intro that has the old guy voice in it. I like old-timey voice. It's Jeff who doesn't like it. I thought you hated it. Well, I'll do it all day today. Yeah, fuck it. Just not here again. Eight line Austin. That isn't down then.

We bring to you now via rodeo fountain. The greatest show in the history of the world. Some of you have come today via motor cars. Some of you have come by a horse and carriage. Some of you have come by that behemoth of the airway is that the original, that monstile of the midway. You're really good at that off the cuff. That's really scary. That's okay. if you go back and listen to another that earlier

and maybe he says and you just throw in the word original the original you just got you've got to use the old time your word every now and exactly so it chefs out of the office he's sick again yeah oh no he's not the weakened immune system he's not sick what a weird coincidence um he's I taking care of our house stuff today we're getting a security system people get upset about being sick you Have you ever noticed that? Like, when people are sick, they refuse to acknowledge that they're sick. Yeah. What is that?

Like, they feel like they're better than the illness or something. Is that an evolutionary thing? Like, genetic? They're afraid you're going to call them from the herd. Is there anyone who's dead? I wish I knew these people that weren't complaining about their sickness all the time. Who are these people? You know, it's one of you talk to you talked about last time on the time. Who are these people? Oh, you mean the... You know, it's one of Utah she talked about last time on the podcast. Um, that guys are a lot worse at dealing with sickness and I agreed with her. Uh-huh. Then women are, because women can tolerate being ill and having pain more so than men can.

And have you ever seen, um, you know the guys that made Sean of the dead? Yeah. I know, I want to say Edgar Wright was part of it, but it's the guy who's in Star Trek. I don't know any of their damn names. Simon Pegg? There you go. Simon Pegg, and who's the other dude, like his sidekick, the Big Dude? I don't know.

The other ones I know are Simon Pegg and Edgar Wright. Anyway, the Big Dude, who's in Zombie at the end of the dead? Yeah, well, spoiler. Fuck man. It's a seven year old movie. Straight to the spoiler. Thanks Gus, but they did a YouTube video called Man Cold, which you can look up or Gus Yeah, well, spoiler, man. It's a seven-year-old movie straight to the spoiler. Thanks, Gus.

But they did a YouTube video called Man Cold, which you can look up or Gus will link, which is all about a woman dealing with a guy who's got a cold. And it's pretty funny. In fact, I'll load it up and we'll play the audio because I think it's just as funny with the audio. I think the guy was, is that Nick Frost?

Nick Frost, you are correct. It's almost like I have some kind of device in front of me that can answer questions. One thing that sucks about the internet, anytime you ask anyone a question they get annoyed if you can tell you to look. I mean it's like Google, as if like, you can't ask a question now. I'm getting to try to get through an advertising. First ad ever on the podcast right there. How much is

New sponsor is all state got how much are they spending on advertising with that dude who plays mayhem? You know that guy I guess I'm who watches these ads. I thought it was I thought it was pretty serious. Oh, oh Yeah, yeah, yeah, the guy who's I'm a teenage girl and he texted my arms and do a car and stuff like that Those ads are freaking everywhere here. This guy laying on a couch, okay? I'm gonna set this up. This dude laying on the couch. Ladies and gentlemen, may join the action impact. That's it. Let me find out, hero.

Prostrate, I think I'm... Prostrate. On a divan. The one that I'm having? No, it's not gonna work. I'm not gonna work at all. Guess you're gonna have to link the video. All right, well, thanks for the entertaining few minutes

of loading a YouTube video. You know, we actually did try. We actually did try this week to set up an insert where one of our friends came in town and I thought, oh, hey, he's in from Switzerland. We see him literally once every three or four years. Why don't I just bring him in? I'll record part of the podcast with him in the evening and then we'll just insert the interview

Into the show didn't do it Gassie you even set up the mics and all set up everything was ready to set to hit record I think it would be confusing to the audience to cut away to us talking to somebody else especially some some weird person They've never heard before it would almost be confusing is starting a theme song at the beginning of the show that ends with you talking. Almost as confusing. We've recorded a few inserts in the past. We never end up using them. It just seems weird.

It doesn't seem like it's our format to have inserts. You just need to have some kind of intro sound so people know that here's the insert. Like an alarm that goes off, warning, insert pending. No, but more like a little stash-y humor sound or something that's a little more dreamy We wouldn't you know what we wouldn't need to have any kind of things in warning insert approaching if we had an announcer Who could simply break in ladies and gentlemen who would now bring you an advertisement for lucky strike cigarettes Fellas, you know that five or five doctors prefer lucky strikes studying out the cigarette that is viewer in that glasses It's not really

He's been telling from of that doctor's prefer lucky strike setting up the cigarette that is beer in that glasses it's not really he's been telling from the excellent this morning I walked in as a kid you want to come down for the podcast are you drinking a beer already it's like no it's tea like okay that's what I'm this can be my excuse now for now on well we all know after hot days work

nothing but nothing makes it sweat like a nice and how's the bush what was the Budweiser start as Budweiser? I think so, yeah. Was it introduced to the World's Fair or anything like that? That's right. Perhaps Blue Ribbon got the Blue Ribbon at the World's Fair in Chicago. And that's true, you can look it up. Were they a beer festival?

No, there's a lot of stuff going on there. They had a whole worldwide beer competition and perhaps Blue Ribbon won. People have bad taste back then. This was a long time ago. They didn't have you like They didn't change the formula a little bit How did the world's fair lose their stranglehold on innovation? Like what if what if Apple had to announce other products at a world's fair? It is real like what's the point now? I mean they just had one in Shanghai. They did mm-hmm This year you know what's funny is you say that like pet blue ribbon won it's blue ribbon at the Chicago World's Fair

I just picture a bunch of like hipsters back in the 1800s like in black and white photos drinking PBR Sitting on the curve. Yes, sitting on the curve being listless. Be all ironic. Yeah electricity's cool, I guess You guys are riding horses around horses were riding cows Holy ironic sounds like a comic idea wouldn't happen That sounds like work for me I read recently like the something about the most Influential single-worlds fair and they introduced like six things that we still use to this day. All I remember is that waffle fries were one of them.

Didn't the ice cream cone also come from like a world's fair? Yeah, the cone was in there as well. Man, can you imagine how many like, like, were the ice cream cone guys like rushing to make the world's fair? It's like, well, we've got ice cream pyramids. We've got to get to the cone by the fifth. Otherwise, we're fucked. You know what else was invented at the Chicago World's Fair? What's that?

That song. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- So we were thinking of a song like that being invented like where did like that? The there's so many songs like that like that like that Then and then then then then then like where did that get invented at the Chinese theme? Right like I know that was probably from the previous World's Fair The only for that was Paris exhibition I think I think I know too much about the World's Fair at this point Yeah, I didn't see anything there are like it's like if there are songs like little jingles associated with like different cultures Yeah, people It's like a watered-down old interpretation of like that you know thousands of years of that culture deluded into two bars of music And there's so much still around today like Florida State uses essentially the Indian theme

Why essentially the Indian theme they done yeah where did that come from? da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da I don't know about Canada. We just have a lot like the, I think the big thing is crocodile dundee. Like everything that was big then. Like how did Australia like stay off of America's culture radar up until the mid-80s? How was that possible? It was far away, to the other side of the world. And then Paul Hogan really busted through. He broke down doors. Ridge cultural divides. What is he, is he still alive? What's he going on?

I'm pretty sure he is. Yeah. It was like a third crocodile dundee movie like six or seven years ago wasn't there. I have no idea I get the police academy franchise and the crocodile to deep franchise mixed up completely It'd be cool if you could combine them. Please Academy down under would be awesome I smell a reboot Oh, oh, that's so popular again, right? Yeah, crocodile dundee and Los Angeles came out in 2001 Wow in Los Angeles He was he was in it obviously you have to do it with them you

can't replace them right is it that big a difference to go from the outback guy going to New York and then it's like completely different if the outback guy goes to LA why would that be like that big a different long order did the same thing long order must have copied them because it was law in order in New York forever now there's law in order Los Angeles I think they're fucking just riding on the co-tails of the crocodile to indefranchise Even now even the courtroom has a theme song too. It's like We know where that one came from because that's recent. That's the law in order one

But I've ever been arrested for something your head said child is gonna make that noise constantly when people talk Where I'm gonna be a little bit thrown in a jail for contempt of court for me the law in order It's like what's the movie where the guy tells the whole courtroom is out of order is that sir Pico? Yeah, you had order the whole damn systems out of order right. I bet I bet there's a lot of dudes Jail for reciting that speech. I'm sure they all think that's worth it. I love courtroom videos And I don't know how stuff like that doesn't have more often where a lawyer is giving a deposition and the the the crook just dex the guy or just goes crazy. I just I wonder how every courtroom just doesn't descend

into blows every single day of the week. Yeah because it's it's serious you know when most of the time you're in a courtroom you're deciding the fate of your life for the next several years, right? If not longer. Or you have, for instance, a victim or a victim's family in the room, right? I mean, that's like, that's a powder cake, right there. I saw a woman fall asleep at court once, like she was on the table sitting in front of the judge and the judge asking her questions

and she passes out. From nerves? No, she was, she had like a lot of drug offenses or whatever, she was on something at the time and just like her questions and she passes out. From nerves? No, she was like, she had like a lot of drug offenses or whatever, she was on something at the time. And just like fell asleep while the judges were trying to talk to her. We great to wake up in prison. This goes, they comfort and put her on a bus.

And you wake up, you're like, like, a Santa go too well. Like a solitary. We should have had some coffee before I went in That's one of the funniest court videos. I think I've ever seen is some dude in Nevada who just showed up to courtroom drunk And he had been at the bar and that there was a woman I think she wasn't like on the table on like the defense table She was back in the gallery like first row and the judge said like who is this woman and it's like um she's nobody she's just someone um who's here in the court and it turned out it was a woman he met in the bar and he's like hey come

and watch me in court and it's it's how we decided to pick up a checklist to bring her to court and then he gets you know thrown out of court and essentially I guess this bar I don't know what happened to him never follow it up on the drunk lawyer. Wow Yeah, which pretty ridiculous, but I love when man judges have the biggest balls in the world They don't give a shit, you know They they will they can do anything at any point time. You're in their courtroom. They can do basically whatever the hell They want now they live in the world I know they can throw you in jail for talking shit to them right like you be talking shit to the president You're an asshole. It's like fuck you

Fearsage. Yeah, that's not going on in the courtroom, you know. You can have contempt of court. What is that? That is. What? What? Defendants not gonna have contempt of court. It's like open contempt is what it should be. Yeah, there's the quiet reserved contempt and then like the open blatant contempt of court. Yeah, I have you ever been to court? Has anyone here, either you guys ever, ever, ever been in a legal situation that you wanna talk about? Oh, I just, I've been to like traffic court where they,

like you come in and they're like wave things or whatever. I mean, nothing serious. We've like physically waved them or? No, I think, I ran like, I ran a red light and I didn't have any. Allegedly. No, I admit it to it. No, but I had to go in and like, I didn't to say anything I don't have any offenses so that it was the big deal I just

got like a piece of paper but I had to wait and I was behind the lady that fell asleep at the table what do you mean you didn't have any offenses well I mean I hadn't hadn't that was my first traffic violation you had no priors well yeah like I had an I don't know are you worried like if you came in with a rap sheet they would give you time for a red light It would like like like they're more likely to be like oh that's fine here Just take this defensive driving class instead of like you need to pay the fee, you know, right? It's not a very interesting story. We don't have to keep talking about it. Well, I'm glad you brought it up Thanks

It seems like all that stuff is done via the mail now Where it's just you know, you have an offense. You don't even have to go to court. Yeah, or the internet Yeah, or the internet now. Yeah, just, now it's like even with the stuff that gets stolen when you feel out of police report, they ask you, do you want to have a police officer come out? It's like, isn't that the way this works? What do you do?

It's like, I was a victim of a crime, so the police come and help me. And they're like, what do you want us to dust? I mean, do you really want us to dust? Do you think anything's going to come out of that? Yeah, you know, that dust gets everywhere.. We're gonna charge you five bucks for the dust It's a materials fee. I'm kind of in no offense to any police listening, but I'm kind of anti-cop right now And I haven't felt this way since I was like 18, but I'm like feeling anti-cop right now. Are you really?

Yeah, because they're very proactive when it comes to pulling you over and giving you tickets But when it comes to like checking up on you when you get robbed it's like We're gonna be the victim of the crime. Yeah, can I talk about it? I thought you guys were brushing over it earlier. What? There you go. Yeah. Okay, so at Wednesday after you were going on about how many robberies this company has had recently we got robbed that night After I was talking about how many robberies that were taking place where Jack got robbed and my car got broken into Griffin then went on Twitter and said we're moving out of our house for

broken into what a strange coincidence I didn't think I said that on Twitter did I I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I'm stupid if I did I think it's important to victim blame yeah it's always it's always the victims fault so how are you are you oh man I'm okay I'm actually having more of an emotional reaction than I ever expected like sure that makes sense unless it was pretty rough? I'm okay. I'm actually having more of an emotional reaction than I ever expected like Sure, that makes sense. And last night it was pretty rough like I got home and I got like all neurotic and crazy and clean the bathroom for like three hours Because I just the house first. So it's got dust everywhere because we're getting our floors redone right and then just knowing that there are people there in my house

Touching things and going through things and like they were in the bathroom They take a bunch of steps to take my jewelry and so I kind of just was like a racing So that we're not getting it dusted any I mean we decided we opted for no fingerprints Because we had so many people in the house. Yeah, yeah, and the cops they they sent us a form letter They're like I'm the detective on your case. I can't make it I've got a lot of work to do. So here's a form letter. Just fill this out and mail it back to me That was our a cop experience. Yeah nice There's that very fun. No.

There's a, where did you clean the bathroom so much we afraid that the thieves took a dump in your toilet or something? Well, the floor guys, whoever, like it was just the toilet was gross, the whole house was disgusting. I was like washing the walls less. Like, I got a little crazy. But. Did you burn sage?

No, not yet, because the house isn't all the way clean yet. What do you mean not yet? What does burning sage do? It clears out negative energies. Okay, it's in the fuck out. The house is full of negative energy right now. Why do you think negative energies are afraid of sage? I don't know. Okay, I just think you feel better and it makes the house more nicer. What's your problem with sage? What's your problem with sage? Like what do you have against it? It's just your burning something in your house. You're to go out buy something to burn it in your house. That was a different instance same thing I don't know

No, absolutely do you use for breeze or some kind of air freshener? No I do I do in my truck. I would find the connection between fobries and sage tenuous at best even if you said yes Well, I know but I mean it's still a smell. And I prefer the smell of burning sage to like chemicals in a bottle. Griffin likes every kind of weird odd like pseudo science. That's more interesting than regular science. Have you been to that rock store that opened your house? No, but I'm planning to. I heard about it. What is it like a crystal shop? Yeah, crystal shop. Just open it down there. I walked in there the other day with my wife because

she wanted to go in. And I could hear the employees talking. You know, that is how it's walking in. Another woman was walking out and the employees were talking to each other like, did you see that? She was so overcome with the latent energy in here when she walked in, she had to sit down. I was like, all right, that's it. I'm done. I don't want to sit there. The employees at the place. I was like, all right, I'm never sitting here. I don't want to go in there and have my energies judged. Yeah, they were totally energy judges. You should be like, oh my god, I just see her aura. Yeah.

I mean, it was all like that. I was like, is this a fucking joke? Are there hidden cameras in here? That doesn't surprise me. That's cool though. So it's right next to like the strip club and the head shop. The sex DVD store. We did not live like in the best neighborhood.

I wonder why your house can't book it into. It makes me wonder though. I mean, I hope their business as well. But when I see somebody open a business in a retail location, and that one's like on a freeway too. Yeah. I just wonder, what are you thinking? You know, I mean, is the crystal shop, I mean,

you're going to see all your potential customers, I think, in the first two weeks. I think that place actually was open somewhere else, and their business was so good, they moved to this location. Well, I take it the first two weeks. I think that place actually was open somewhere else and their business was so good they moved to this location. I take it back. A bigger spot. Yeah, but I think I'm with Bernie on this one. It's not like you're not going to be looking for crystals and going to this area, you know,

like right off the access road next to like a whole bunch of like sex clubs or whatever. You know, like it just seems like an odd place. It's a different clientele. You're not going to get walk-ins that way. Well, they have a very exclusive clientele list. I'm sure the clients will seek them out. Yeah. Well, it is nice to jog on the freeway and go, oh, there is a crystal shop.

But here's the thing. Like, here's what you're with your clientele. Like, how many stones are there? And once you have all of them, what do you need more for? You tell us. I mean. I know, well, crystals, you have to buy eventually because you wear them out. But other things.

How do you wear out of rock? All right. It's been a while since I read my stone power book. I've been since 16. But yeah, crystals are, they've sort of, I'm not going to. No, no, no, I'm curious. I'm curious. I've never, I've never heard this. Well, you can clean them and you can recharge them or whatever.

But I think eventually, like if you have enough negative energy reviews and enough front of things, you kind of have to replace them. And as is my understanding. Can you train them like Pokemon? Did they got their properties? Do they evolve? Like if you're walking to the street,

you see somebody else who has crystal, can you throw them out and have them fight? That would be awesome. Is trading crystals a big deal? Like if I had a crystal. People give crystals as presents. Like I had a lot of like hippie friends and organists to give things like that.

So yeah, I guess it could be a gift shop. Good point. When you feel like all your friends need crystals. Yeah, yeah, there's always, I mean, there's some businesses entirely that thrive on the gift giving season where it's like, I have no idea what the hell to get this person. I have to spend $20 on this person. That's it. And it doesn't matter if they like what I get them, I just have to go through the ritual. I spent $20 on you. This is clearly a $20 item. We're done. If you give somebody a 20 and say, I don't, I didn't feel like shopping. You're clearly a $20 item. We're done. If you give somebody a 20 and say,

I didn't feel like shopping, you're the biggest asshole in the world. Not the same thing. RoosterTeeth.com slash store. By the new RT shorts DVD coming out soon. DVDs are the best gift of all time. It's like, well, we got this guy and our family. You play Taylor non-stop.

What can we get out of it? Here's a T. You're the DVD. The recollection box set. On sale now. I don't have to sit down with them and play slayer for five hours straight. That's why he screams at me. I don't have to sit down with them in place layer for five hours straight Why he screams at me. I'm not playing well enough. I'll just give them the DVD and that'll be good enough Did you see those dudes who uh who made the uh the red versus blue Spartan outfits and they went as the different red versus blue characters for Halloween?

That was awesome. I saw it on Kotaku. They made there was some debate as to who one of the end guys was. Was it Doc or was it Lopez? It's Doc. You've got a plasma pistol. Right. I think the weapon indicates it. But the picture is great as the costumes were. The pictures were a little rough.

So I wish we had been to pictures of them. But you got the picture up there. Yeah, it looks like it's Doc, Kaboos, Simmons, Griff, Sister, Church, Sarge. Awesome. How long it took him a while, right? Like how long is the process? Three years. Three years.

I believe I mean that just looking, I was looking through the photos of like, of the casting and everything. I mean, it looks like it was really involved. Three years to make seven suits. What's also on there are custom made specifically for, you know, the people who warm. Yeah. That's a, you got the guy's name? What's also I mean they're all custom made specifically for you know the people who warm. Yeah That's that's a you have to guys name. What's his name? John Thorson John Thorson. Yes, I believe so. I'll be sure to link to his website What's his website? I mean, I look at it. I'm looking for it. It is I'm still amazed that people can do this stuff Protagonist the number four higher dot blog spot dot com

protagonist for higher Blog spot is blog spot doing okay? I don't know does anyone bought them was it no that's part of blogger right? Which is owned by Google Google yeah, I think I think Google owns them, so they're probably doing pretty damn good. Did you know the Google owns that Social network that's huge in Brazil. Yeah, or couldute orcute is that how you say it? I didn't know that. It's pretty interesting. Why hasn't Google made a bigger push for that social network here in the US? I don't know. Maybe they're timing it. I think people are getting to the point now where they're starting to look for an alternative to Facebook. Or maybe they're just waiting to buy something.

Because it seems to me that's their MO, right? Like Google video didn't take off so they bought YouTube you know right maybe or kooz not taking off so they'll just wait and buy Facebook what wait and buy Facebook yeah they've got the fucking money why not I guess they what is Facebook worse now a few billion six billion six billion that's it huh that's off the top of my head let me look it up yeah you know when I think when I think about the internet oh no I'm sorry investors value Facebook it up to 33 billion Wow, according to your times I remember when Fox bought my space and they bought them for 500 million. Yeah, is that correct? Something like that and there was a rumor at the time when Facebook was nothing compared to my space really that

Someone wanted to buy Facebook for 700700 million. Remembering Crickly, it was Yahoo. Yahoo wanted to buy them for $2 billion, I thought. No, I think they wanted to buy them for $700 million. And Zuckerberg at the time said he thought the site was worth $2 billion. And it was like, here are fucking nuts. Think this $700 million in run, and God, the guy was right.

I think at the time we were, if we had a podcast, if we had a podcast back then, we could go back and listen to it. I think at the time we were like if we had a podcast, if we had a podcast back then, we could go back and listen to it. I think at the time we were like, why didn't you just sell it? What's wrong with them? For 700 million, I think it feel like we talked about that at one point. Yeah. About the 700 million. Like we were saying at the time, like this guy's a lunatic.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He turned down to $750 million acquisition offer, deciding to hold out for $2 billion. Right. And my space was sold for $5, $880 million.

And now Zuckerberg's worth more than 2 billion. Essentially his share of Facebook is. I'm reading a mashable article that was written about it four years ago. Four years ago. This is a billion dollars is high but not astronomical. Facebook isn't as large as my space. Wow, it's crazy. What are your y'all's predictions as far as Facebook?

Because you're thinking that maybe people are looking for an alternative. Which I can see because I mean that's sort of just the trend, you know, you think it's gonna get too big. You feel like you're not in this little club that knows about something special and then you usually move on. I don't know, but once something gets that big, it has a certain gravity to it. It's like, you know, everyone I know is on it. I'll just get on that.

Yeah, but then yeah, no, you're right about that. But with my space now, like, it became so unusable because it's mainly just a place for musicians to harass you. And then I moved off of that. But with my space now, like, it became so unusable because it was mainly just a place for musicians to harass you. And then I moved off of that. So my space was unusable because it gave the users too much ability to customize their pages. Oh, yeah. That was the problem. You had people putting giant images as their background and playing music and loading all the stuff and it would crash your browser.

Yeah. It was just terrible. They gave the user too much power. And that's what killed their site. I always said that the way you served my space was you go to someone's profile and then immediately hit pause and whatever shitty song was playing on the profile. Yeah. It was like the first thing you did.

Yeah, you immediately before you even done loading you start looking for the player to find the pause button to hit it as the music was available. Where's this music coming from? Have you heard about, you know, I'm not talking about this. Have you heard about this new web browser that I guess is in beta this week called rock melt? No, it's I guess a Browser that tries to integrate all of these social sites into the browser

So like you have I haven't I haven't downloaded it yet, but From what I've seen you have a left pane that lists all of your friends like on Facebook or your different social networks And you can see like what they're doing and what their most recent updates are. And the browsers integrated into all of your social streams. So you see like updates on the right hand side from all of your different sites. It's like a social network RSS friend aggregator slash web browser. No, sounds interesting. It seems really interesting to me that they built an entire browser around that as opposed to say making an add-on for something else. It takes care of that. Yeah, I think they, I'm going off the top of my head, I think they based it off of the old Chromium browser. But I tried to download it the other day, but then I realized that this browser isn't for

me, because in order to get into the beta and download it, you immediately have to connect it to your Facebook account. Right. And I was like, wait a minute, I don't like this. I don't do this anyway anywhere else. So I didn't download it. But I heard that this morning, people who were using the browser were having trouble. It's still in beta, of course. But they were having trouble because there were problems between, there were problems with it connected to the Facebook API servers. So it just wouldn't load anything. It's interesting to you base your technology and your product on,

essentially on somebody else's platform, you never know when they're going to make a change that just kind of kills what you're doing. Right. I mean, a good example of that is Google just put out this Google TV stuff. And now content providers are starting to block Google TV, where you just can't access their services with Google TV hardware. Right. I think Hulu blocked them.

I think right off the day one, most of the TV networks did like NBC. Sci-fi did. Just see if you still say sci-fi. You still say it. I don't really don't say it, but if I have to say sci-fi. So it's really going to hurt Google TV, because Jeff really was considering getting

an television with the built-in. Well, we talked about it because Jeff bought a new TV. It's something you have to do with the old one. And yeah, we were talking about Google TV, and we said, yeah, just, we don't know if it'll catch just because people are already starting to block it. But like Gus said earlier, Google's got enough money where they can make partnerships

and make things available. Right. Right now, it seems like the safest bet is anything that has Netflix on it. Because Netflix has been very innovative in that, they destroyed blockbuster at their own game. And then while they were doing that, they were still smart enough to recognize DVDs are

going away and let's make a flip over to streaming because more and more people want to be streaming. And I think Netflix recently described themselves as a streaming company that just happens to also offer DVDs. Yeah, I remember reading an interview with one of their founders, like three or four years, one of those project four years ago now, where he talked about, it was before they were doing streaming and they were asking him, you know, we'll Netflix ever do video streaming and he said, well, the company name is Netflix.

You know, that's what we wanted, that's what we wanted to do from day one. We just are waiting for, you know, the broadband and the technology to catch up to be able to do that. So I think from day one, they've always wanted to stream. And didn't you just send me an article about the problem that Netflix is creating for the national broadband network? I didn't send that to you, but I read that. Okay, I thought, could just sworn you sent that link to me.

But it was just an article that was talking about how the amount that's being streamed now is amazing compared to what it was. Like when they developed the broadband networks, they were based essentially on telephone technology where you have this big pipe, but you're just not using it all the time. The reason why you get all circuits are busy when there's a major event is telephone networks are designed to not be used by everybody all at one time. It's just not the bandwidth for it. And that kind of cascaded into the internet technology.

And it's probably not keeping up with the way people are using it today. Because people are on all the time now on the internet. Yeah, it's interesting. You talk about the old phones, the way the phone system used to work. People don't have, well, maybe some people still have landlines. But when everyone had landlines, if everyone picked up their phone at the same time Not everyone would get dialed home right, you know There's only enough power to you know to to run the service for a certain percentage of people

They really are circuits. I mean that's what they are Dedicated circuits when you pick up the phone and I think that article you're talking about said that netflix was consuming Between 20 and 30% of all broadband during primetime hours Netflix streaming was. That's pretty serious. Mm-hmm. That's a lot of bands. Yeah.

That's a lot of people watching bikini car wash from 1988. I still think Netflix needs a better selection. Yeah, I'm kidding. It is funny because I mean, they're in charge. I mean, in that sense, they're in charge, but some of their stuff on streaming is just like, why even have this? There's no one in the world who wants to see this like But why, but you know, it's one of these like why? Why do it like what's the business model for someone like say for toy story three?

Why would they go straight to streaming? You know because if you want to watch toy story three you just you just watch it as opposed to They're they're a great example because I bought toy story three for my kids the other day you can only buy it and It's 1999 to buy it and you can't rent it from iTunes or anything like that and that's not like I mean, that's a big product. You know, that's a broad broad product. It's not like a niche thing that some people are interested in So it's it's they just didn't always approach it that way. I mean Disney used to pull their Titles off the market. Did they still do that? I think right now beauty and the beast is out of the vault. Oh shit Really? I think that's it. You hate it, but look at that. Look at that reaction. No exactly because I've been wanting to at Millie's never seen it

And I have never I've been able to find it to let her watch it. I think it's out of the vault. Okay Yeah, well, that's weird to me that you can't get Toy Story 3 on iTunes considering the whole Steve Jobs Pixar. You can, but you can only buy it. Or you can't rent it. And you can't stream it anywhere either. So it's like you just have to buy it. They're people are picking and choosing what they want to do.

Right. You know, which we do with our stuff as well, you know, not on the level that Disney does, but, you know, there's some things that we take part in, and other things we don't take part in. Yeah. And it's difficult to decide, you know, what's going to be good, because you just don't know. Sometimes you just have to try things and see how they work,

and if they don't work, you just, you pull it out of there. Yeah, no, that makes total sense. I'm sure they have a lot of people who look at it and run numbers that I wouldn't even understand. So have you, did you, anybody pick up a connect? Yeah, I got one. Well, how are you liking it? Um, it was fun.

It's fun. Uh, I'm not like whole-hardly and I don't like getting up. Yeah, I'm wondering how well I do. I like the voice and the hand controls. Yeah, Millie, we got it for Millie and she loves it and then Jeff's been doing it and he's been next like, and then he had me do it and it's actually like a real workout he had me do it. And it's actually like a real workout. And I just don't know how well that's gonna translate

to the video game community. Well, I think it could be, I mean, it could be revolutionary. I mean, it could really change if they get some titles, you know, that the average gamer wants to play as a speciality titles. It could be pretty cool, you know? I wonder if it might have more of a mainstream appeal kind of like the Wii does, though.

I'm sure that's what they're aiming for. I wonder how all it'll do. I think it's, you know, the 360 is something that not a lot of kids play, I don't think. And they've had, you know, stabs and having a lot of kids games on there, like the Lego games are pretty big on the Xbox. And they had Viva Pignata, but I just never know.

I like Viva Pignata a lot. You liked it a lot. I did too, but I almost think, in some ways it's not really a kid's game. Yeah, I don't think that was a kid's game. Yeah, it's kind's kind of gets complicated like at least it's as soon as your garden gets a little bit Bigger it gets pretty like it's all maintenance Managing yeah, well, it's like I don't know it's it's hard to What is that category to because you know if you play like some of the Mario Galaxy games

It's pretty complex the way you have to move around a sphere and you're like thinking in a 3d space or like you have to change the direction Of the gravity on some of the levels it gets pretty complex, but it still feels like a Kids game. I don't know if that's the right way to describe it Maybe it's more of a cutie game, you know, so it's more healing the kids like they want to try it Honestly when kids play games, I don't really know that they get what they're doing anyway You know what I mean? They just do what they do and they don't really care about you know Unobjective yet objective or winning or anything like that. They just, like, I don't think kids noticed if they were playing the same level 18 times in a row.

Yeah, fucking loser kids. Yeah, Millie, like, we've had it got them off her or that game. Yeah, and it was great. And that's the great thing about that game. It's, it has that sort of man-mandering take your time, just wander around, eat things, whatever. Like there's, there's no instructions, no HUD. Yeah, and like you, eat things, whatever. Like, there's no instructions, no HUD. Yeah, and like, you eventually get to where you're going, but there's no urgency at all, and I think that's good for kids. Didn't you say she cried at the end of that game? Yeah, she was very upset.

Because they had to say goodbye to each other, the two characters, like the mom and the little green guy. And she balled. Yeah, she got a little upset, because she was like, he's leaning. This is it, it's over. You sent me that video the other day of the Connect Unit in the dark with the night vision. Right, camera, which is really cool.

You don't think about how it sees you. Or how it sees everything. Right. It's pretty weird. And I guess it just shoots out tons of, what is that infrared? I don't know what they are, but they took somebody with a a Sony camera like one of those ones has a night vision setting on it Like the parasailant style like parasailant style They're exactly and they in a dark room

They turn on the connect and then they look at the room and you can see the connect shoots out all these dots So the dots cover everything in the room when you look at it with this night vision view Didn't it doesn't scare a little bit connected to the internet and you have all these little like this camera in your room. Yeah, I was thinking about that. The other day I saw this article where people were talking about how when you set up the connect, there's an option towards the end that says, do you want to use the connect microphone for party chat?

And by default, it says yes. So if you leave that on, whenever you play a game online, the connect acts as instead of your headset. The connect is what picks up all of the audio so it can hear You know everyone in the room and everything that's going on I Sit mine to off I mean, yeah, I don't know what to say about that. It's it kind of the thing about the connect that kind of creeps me out is I don't like having cameras staring at me all the time. Yeah, no for sure. Especially in my house. I just don't like the feeling of, sure,

it's not, no one can access it, but whenever I see a camera lens, it seems like a person's eye, someone I don't know is looking at me to that lens. It seems to me like, someone like Madcast or someone's gonna probably pretty soon make a connect cover. But when you're not playing your connect games, you can put a little cover over the unit.

So there's gotta be somebody smart enough to figure it out, right? Yeah, was it there an old Pinyarcade comic like years ago, like five or six years ago, about the Xbox 360 watching you at your most private moments? I think I remember that. Yeah, it was like, it was like, it was like looking into people's bedrooms and stuff. I don't see why I can find that for the link.

One thing I don't like about Connect when we were playing, maybe this is just some games, because we were playing a kids game. But it takes pictures of you while you're jumping out of the Canadian and then it shows you. I love that. I hate that. I don't want to see pictures of you.

My wife hates that also, but I was playing. I like that it strips away all the pretense. It's like as soon as you play it, it's like, just be goofy and have fun. I like that. I was playing with my wife over the weekend and at one point playing Connect Adventure, she stepped on our dog and that's right when the Connect took a picture. So the picture was like of the dog kind of riding and screaming at my wife, like starting

to bend down and look at the dog. It was like perfect timing. We grabbed like the authorities had been notified. Over the cap, it is like animal cruelty. Fatalities. So I didn't actually pursue it like after the photos are taking you whatever. Where do they go? Where do you get them?

You can choose to, they're in, in, in, in connect adventures at least. There's an option you can go to and see like your photo gallery. And then you can upload them. And I believe the websites connect share.com. And you can go there. And if you upload them, that's where they'll go. And you can see them on the web there. Okay. It does seem like something that it would make sense for you to opt in before you

play it for the first time. In other words, a lot of people who got surprised by that. Yeah, you can disable it in the settings, but it doesn't tell you that it happens before hand. Like there's no warning when you first launch the game that says your picture is going to be taken a bunch of times. You know, when you're speaking to cameras on that thing, when I bought my connect at Best Buy, you know, at Best Buy, they love selling their fucking product replacement plan or whatever insurance they have. To the point where they almost bash the product while you're buying it. Right. And when I bought the connect, I bought it the day it came out, they were a bunch of connect units on a table and Best Buy had printed up their own little flyers

to go with it that says, buy the product protection plan or whatever for $20 a year, it covers all three cameras, four microphones and one motor in this unit. It's like they're trying to scare you about how much is in the unit to make you buy their fucking replacement plan. They talk about that motor a lot. I went to a midnight launch event. I never got to midnight launch events, but I did because this was hardware. And the best buy people when they were there they were kept talking mentioning the motor

Hmm, I think it's got a motor in it. You probably want that extended warranty. Uh-huh Would you get it? Did you get the extended warranty? I got it on one of my connect cameras, but um I bought another one that was bundled with an Xbox and I'm just not gonna buy the extended warranty with the Xbox just because I know Microsoft will fix it and I would buy a lot more chin and warranties from Best Buy if they weren't priced to be 25% of the cost of the item. That just seems like I'm paying for almost, a quarter of another one, just in case something's wrong.

Just in case, yeah. I just make it five bucks and then everyone will probably get it and then it'll probably work out better for you, but I'm sure Best Buy has some actuary chain to a table somewhere if it's making all this stuff out. Yeah, but yeah, it Best Buy has some actuary chain to a table somewhere. If all this stuff out. Yeah. But yeah, it definitely seems like they they they ride a fine line between scaring you

into not buying the product versus buying the you know the insurance to go along with it. They don't ride that line very well to me because like when back when I would bought an iPod from them, I mean they said to me, you know this battery would probably fail in the first year. I'm like, well, then I don't want it. I'm not going to buy this thing like I handed the guy and walked out. Yeah. And it was one of the first generation iPods.

It just seems so stupid to me that they would train their employees to tell you that something to piece of shit while he's else. Yeah, the product's going to break. So you better pay more for it. Yeah. Yeah, it's really weird. But I have really liked to connect. I didn't get much chance to play because I went out of town for a couple days, right after it launched. But man, I played with Jack and we hit a ball. And it was fun. And it was fun to watch Jack get completely out of breath. It is cool. I think especially for kids, because they have the,

especially in the US, it's the child obesity is such a problem that anything that gets kids running around and jumping, even if they think they're playing a video game and they're actually exercising, they can't be a bad thing. I keep hearing the child obesity is a big problem, but I don't see too many obese kids. I mean, I guess kids being obese period at any level is a problem, but I don't like

walk around and see a lot of obese kids. Well, when was the last time you went to an elementary school? Yeah, I bet my kids in elementary school, we walked to school all the time, you know? And I don't see like, you know, I mean, I guess I'm not laughing at the fatties. It was fat kids when I was in school, you know? Yeah. You see, you say you say, you say, you say, you say, No, I just worked on that playground marketing project that

was focused on getting kids more active. So maybe I'm a little hypersensitive to it. Yeah, I wonder if I'm five year old if it's possible to be obese. I think maybe maybe I'm sure to. Eight year old level, nine year old level. Maybe then you start to see like the body catches up. I don't see how my kids friggin run like a maniac. My wife said that if you ever wanted to be in perfect shape, just follow a five-year-old around all day and do exactly

what they do. And you would probably die of exhaustion the first day or you'd be in super shape. Don't eat everything that they eat. It's because they suck all the energy out of you while you're in the room with them. Well, my problem is I said, I turn into a human trash can so that my, whatever my kids don't eat, it's like, oh, I'll eat the rest of that. I should probably just never eat anything and then just eat whatever my kids don't eat. And that would be enough food for me. Yeah, I've actually gotten to where I'm not ordering like a meal for a million. I'll order like one meal and then we'll share it because she barely eats anything. It is crazy. I never remember that as a kid, man. I eat two bites, something that was it.

I was done, you know. And I also was like, my kids were, it's like, I need two bikes to something that was it. I was done, you know, and I also was like my kids where it's like, I hated everything. It's like, I ate four things. I ate chicken patties, plain cheeseburgers, pizza, and I don't know, something macaroni cheese. And you're like Jack. I was like Jack is today, Jack and Harry. Or like Jeff was four years ago, we would go to lunch and Jeff was impossible

because we'd always go to lunch with Jeff and he said, where do you wanna go? I don't care, I'll go anywhere. It Jeff was impossible because we always go to lunch with Jeff and he said, where are you going to go? I don't care, I'll go anywhere. Then you'd have to name eight places. Yeah, no, that's a thing. He's like, no, you pick. And then you try to pick and he's like, oh, no, we can't go there because of the backs. Yeah. No, they serve white food there. Like any white food. So weird. He's, he had a way thinking, where do you Chinese food? Who does need Chinese food? What is wrong? What is wrong Chinese food? It's like the best food ever. It's basically chicken and salt and sugar lots of sugar And that's it and it's and he can't absolutely can't take it anywhere near it He said now and he eats Indian food now

He's making a real effort. I think because he's so sick of being the problem and being told that he's the problem Being told he can easily slide back into his old self now with with Patilla around. Oh, yeah No, he's been I mean he tried to coach Jack on vegetables and Jack wasn't having it so french fries were vegetable right haha have I ever seen Jack in vegetable and trying to think no he actually when we go we went to where were we at recently was it over there at the water loop no no we went to a burger place you and I recently within Jack was there was that you I don't remember it was just some like chain like Jack in the box out and he like asked for them to take

all of the vegetables off of his burger and then he was like, well I kind of want that but it looks like there's some green in it. Oh yeah, we were at the Carl's Jr. which is already terrible at beginning with it. You know Carl's Jr. has some of the most unhealthy burgers ever. They have a Philly Cheese Steak burger. It's a burger with Philly Cheese Steak meat in it. I had them order for me just the other day Just because I saw the sign for this and we're going to Carl's Jr

I said give me the Philly cheese steak burger I'm gonna try it try it and then eating the entire thing in about 35 seconds by the way It was delicious. Yeah, I'm an unbad mouthing it, but I've eaten it a few times I don't want to see if it was like the cheese steak that was at Mike's pub, which was the smallest hole in the wall, dive bar in the world that was right next door to us at our old office. And every now and then they would have this cheese steak,

which was essentially just kind of like a cheese steak but made with American cheese and then on a normal hamburger bun. That thing was incredible. I know you would always walk by Mike's pub to look to see what the special was, see if the cheese and then on a normal hamburger bun. Right. That thing was incredible. I know you would always walk by the, like by Mike's pub to look to see what the special was. See if the cheese stick was on there. Mike's pub is also cool because you have to enter

through a parking garage and like go through the parking garage to get to it. It's like hidden away. Yeah, it's so weird. It's really bizarre. There was a lot of crazy stuff like that. Like they had one of those little ATM machines. That's not a bank one.

It's a private ATM. Right. You see it like the convenience stores which yeah I'm always given to put my card in and they're like sucker Let's empty this account out and it's like three seventy five to use it as well. That's the V. They charge you right and There was one time when I when I put my card in I said I Want 40 bucks because they only take cash at that place to and it said sorry We don't have the cash to dispense. It's unavailable. So I was like, damn, I was there. And he goes, what's wrong?

I said, oh, it doesn't have the cash to dispense. Um, where's another ATM? Because no, hold on. The guy comes out from behind the counter with a key and opens up the ATM and like puts money into a huge stack of bills in there. And he's like, yeah, sometimes he can jammed up. He takes out this huge stack of 20s and like taps it on the counter and like pats it and then puts it in Shuts it and kicks the machine and then it works That was so informal was that on his resume also like ATM repair That was I said so you own this ATM because he goes he goes no, but the guy who does leaves us the key because it keeps screwing up so much

Wow, that's a level of trust. I don't know if I would have. One thing about that place, I went there recently when we were doing the last short we did it in the old office, the back in time one or whatever. Yeah, right. I had to go in and I went short for everybody. I went to my ex-pub and I have tried to order like, I don't know, like nine burgers or something

or the cheese steaks. And they're just like, well, you know, it's gonna take a while. I'm like, yeah, it usually does. And they're like, well, I mean, it's probably gonna take a while. I'm like, yeah, it usually does. And they're like, well, I mean, it's probably going to take at least 45 minutes. I mean, do you still want these? I'm like, yes, I do want them. I had to like talk to the guy into it. Well, we're going to have to work.

You know, you have to make them and then, you know, we have to make this whole exchange. These cheese steaks have motors in them. You're going to want a cheese steak replacement plan. Let's be honest. It's really not very good for you. There's a doctor here who'll tell you how bad it is. Yeah, I run into that. I think I like Austin's laid back attitude, but I do run into that a lot. Where it's you come into a business and it's a bunch of slackers work in there and they will almost try to convince you that you don't want to be at the business. Right.

It's usually private places, you know, where it's like an A-Mese or a Thunder Cloud subs, like businesses you only find in Austin, but they've hired typical Austinites and then a lot of times like. Well, they're really good decoration for this kind of places because they kind of fit the Austin vibe, so they're like cool kids with like the dreads and whatever. Yeah. And then drinking their PBR. All right.

Talking shit. I talked about last week that place we went up in Seattle, that lunch box laboratory. kids with like the dreads and whatever is and then drinking their PBR. Right. Talking shit. I talked about last week that place we went up in Seattle that lunch box laboratory. Yeah. Gus you would love it because there's a lady behind the counter. She runs that whole place like she's the moment we set foot in there to the moment we left. She did not stop screaming. Because the place clearly does not have enough real estate.

It's about as big as your office here that entire restaurant including the tables. Wow like all the entire service area It might be smaller than this and you're literally like crammed on top of each other And so she has to come out and serve people and walk through the line and walk through the tables and all that So she's yelling the entire time like coming out this is hot you move get out of my way Where people are for people are done eating like the they stopped chewing, and she like kicking them out. Exactly. They don't want people in there. If you're standing in one of her lanes, you will know immediately. She will let you know. They have a couple of places like that in Seattle then, don't they? Like, that reminds me also of Dixie's barbecue is the same way.

They had a very specific ordering process that you could not fuck with. Yeah, you do, you don't talk shit to those people. And if they're doing other stuff besides helping you, that's fine. That's fine. If they're on the phone with the pharmacy, you just wait it out. It's wait for it. Let them take care of whatever they need to do. You'll need eventually. We relied that barbecue place in Seattle and there was a line of what? 20 or 30 people was it was might have been longer. It was out the door and it was a lady at the cash register She was talking to the pharmacy about you know filling some prescription and

Everyone just waited patiently. Waited. Yeah, and you don't look look at her don't don't don't don't get up any negative vibe just like look at the food look around talk it's like the sign felled soup not yeah do not act like it's inconvenience you at least the barbecue Nazis I really said the one time I went there the man wasn't there like he was off and now he's dead right didn't he die yeah he's dead in fact I tweeted about that I said did anyone know if they're still serving that unbelievably hot hot sauce now that gene, gene, gene porter. Yeah. Then he passed away. I think we talked about him before. He was the guy who would walk around with the

sauce pan called the man. And it was like, it looked, there were pictures in the wall, like newspaper articles that were like yellow with age, and it looked like the same pan he had in all the photos of him, and it was just like, it was like the shining, you know. That pan was given to him by a demon 40 years ago. Exactly. He was like, he felt it. He lost a fiddle playing contest, and now he was doomed to walk the earth with this sauce. He probably like killed a demon, and he had to like serve it slowly.

People over the years. Like there's the only way to dispose of it. That's so unbelievably hot. And we pride ourselves on me from Texas when we go anywhere else of we can eat anything hot. That's like what people from the South bring everywhere when they go like up north to go. You don't have good Mexican food.

You don't have hot stuff. We can tolerate this. That was unbelievably hot. That guy was a, he was a ringer though. He was, he was Cajun, he was from Louisiana. They don't tell you that going up there. That's true. He took the heat with him and when amplified it.

What do you think is more annoying? Do you think it's more annoying when Southern people go north to visit places or do you think it's more annoying when people from the north come down to the south? Probably Southern people going north. Do you think so? I think so, man the North come down to the South probably so other people going North you think so I think so I got called a Yankee the other day by who by that that old marine guy whatever that was helping me on project yeah yeah I was like damn Yankees we

were not here like well you are for more energy I am but I've been here a while I don't have the cues to be and I don't know if this Pacific Northwest count is Yankee I was gonna say no I don't. It's outside the Mason Dixon boundary, so I would say yes. If I moved down from Montana, would you call me Yankee? I guess that's an excellent counterpoint. I mean, yeah, Oregon's so far away from anything, like, I don't know, East Coasty, North, you know. I guess.

And I mean, we visit Seattle, which is in Western Washington. You go to Eastern Washington, it's pretty rural. It's pretty rural, it's pretty redneck. That's right here. You just don't associate with with South but I think when people come down from the North to the South I can't I'm from the know I'm from New York, you know, but I've lived in Texas most of my life I get so annoyed by People from New England when they come down to the South to visit they act like they're visiting the zoo Just like oh my god look at this. Oh, you know, it's like It's just like, oh my god, look at this. You know, it's like, it's

just, it drives me crazy. And when we hear someone from the North talk about people, it's out too. It's always like, what is like, it's like they're special younger brother, you know? It's like, it's very annoying. The only thing that drives me crazy, or the thing that drives me crazy the most is that a New England accent. It's just great to me, like the Bostonian, Rhode Island area? Oh, you mean specifically the Boston accent? Yeah. You know, an accent is the best in the country. What's that? Maine. Is it they have an accent in Maine? Yeah, no, for sure. Yeah. I did not know that. Yeah. I got on now. That's great. I love it. It is great. The main accent is great. If you ever read a lot of

Stephen King novels, you like get it stuck in your head. Yeah. Because he writes in that. Hmm. I said, no, a guy, I was a taxi driver for a while, and there was this drunk guy for Maine. It was like an old trucker, but he had lost his license from being a drunk, and was continuing to be a drunk until, I don't know what he would have into him. But he had a Maine accent. And even though he was a pain in the ass

because he'd get so drunk, he couldn't write checks to me, and I have to write checks for him. I just keep him around because of the accent. Yeah, so he would feel like, he was like Maine slash drunk guy. So you would fill out the check to yourself and he would just sign it? Yeah, and I think I had to sign it a few times. I was impossible to carry him to his front door. You have a regular cab driver. I don't understand that. Oh, well, it was a small, it's a small, it's a small, so if it was a certain

certain days of the week, I would be the driver and then I had like a partner who would be registered. Oh, he was the cab driver. you were the captain. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. No, he wasn't just a drunk cabbie. No, I was, I was the cabbie. He was like, I would just like, I had a routine right, pick him up from his like apartment complex, drive him to this bar like on the other side of town and then drive back like three hours later, pick him up, like, haul him into the car, drive him home, right, a check to myself and then throw him in his house. How would he convenient for him? You don't think he would go to a bar closer to him or move to be closer to that bar? He was a regular, I don't know, he lived in like a cheap, cheap apartment.

And this one bar was kind of out on the outskirts, so I went in an apartment complex nearby. And the only thing close was like a retirement community, which was a little bit more expensive. Well, he was a retired truck driver. I don't know if retired is the word. He's not currently working. He was retiring. He was in the program. He forced retirement. In the process of, so, I always wanted this too. I mean, truck driver makes him more sense because they go everywhere.

But I always wonder how people get from one place. I was like, how does that guy get from Maine to end up in San Marcus, Texas? I wonder if he lost his job and he happened to be in Texas and just stayed. Or I didn't mean to leave. That's where he was stuck in San Marcos. A lot of people relocate. It's like here in Arizona, like you're talking about last time. Yeah, like people like they get the sex over and they just never make money to leave again. And that's just where they live for the rest of their lives.

I don't believe you. You had some weird, it's weird. Why, why? Life is from a town called Quincy Illinois, which is in the southern part of Illinois. It's basically more like Missouri than it is like Illinois. And they ended up there because they were driving from New York to LA and they stopped in Quincy and they literally stopped the family and they lived in Quincy. They liked it and they lived there. She was there 17 years. It's like the Donner family but with a more happy

ending. What happened with the Donner family when they got stuck into the mountain pass? Yeah. All ate each other. There was no town there though. Yeah. I mean, I guess it was before they had my, it was her parents before they had any kids. So they just stopped and I get like fuck the whole west coast. That's the idea. I ended up in Texas that way. I was on my way to check out Mississippi to see because I followed my ex down to Arizona. We hated Arizona.

And then I decided she wanted to go to Mississippi. And I was one, I decided, no, I'm picking because you picked Arizona. It was a total bust. So I stopped in Texas and liked it and then bother go to Mississippi and I was one I decided no I'm picking because you picked Arizona it was a total bust So I stopped in Texas and liked it and didn't bother when I was a city just went back and packed So how'd you take in a different route? Yeah, Texas you would never met Jeff or anybody you'd be a Mississippi I wouldn't I don't think I would have gone this I mean if I had I went back to I went to that town later and had he's Spark Mississippi did not want to move there So I would have ended up somewhere I don't know where where. Hey Gus, you're born in bread, Texas.

Yeah. And we've talked actually about moving sometimes. This just comes up naturally. Yeah, of course. We can move the company to somewhere. And you've always been like, nope, you're not leaving Texas. Is there anywhere that you would live? New Zealand.

You would live in New Zealand. Yeah. I think one day I'll move there. It's hard to get residency there, I think, isn't it? Yeah, it is pretty hard to get residency there. You just said I just have to show you. And did you know the US is one of the few countries that does this, where if you're a US citizen living overseas,

even if you don't spend a single day in the US, you still have to pay income tax on any foreign income you make. Really? Yeah. So if... I didn't know that. If, for example, I moved to New Zealand worked for a New Zealand based company Never even came back to the US. I would still owe US federal income tax on my New Zealand earn money

How would you revoke your citizenship? You have to I think you have to go to the embassy and you can turn in your passport and officially Revoque it however in the case in New Zealand because that's what we're talking about you It's really hard to become a citizen there Yeah, so you have to find citizenship somewhere else and then turn in your passport and revoke your citizenship and then move in New Zealand because that's what we're talking about. You, it's really hard to become a citizen there. Yeah. So you have to find citizenship somewhere else and then turn in your passport and revoke your citizenship. And then move to New Zealand. And then move somewhere else. Yeah.

Citizenship is a weird thing. Can you not be a citizen? I don't think so. It almost, as the world gets smaller and smaller, it'd be cool if you could just I don't know. I think I read a short story about that in middle school, right? The man without a country. No, I never is about some guy who spent all his time on a ship X criminal

Yeah, I mean if you went if you went out to see why not just revoke all your citizenship Might make it tough when you try to you know landed a port somewhere right Well, we should we should do it find out Griffin. Oh, let us know how it goes I'm I'm pretty happy with my US citizenship. I'm pro-american everything now We're just talking theoretical. And as a dual citizenship, is that as high as you can go, can you go to like try? I think you can do more than two.

I know somebody who's, no, no, she's got two, you know, friend. I think you can do more than two. And of course, it depends on the country. Some countries don't recognize or allow a dual citizenship. Well, then some, I think I'm more lenient if your parents are from some place, you can get the citizenship. And you don't have to necessarily be born there.

So let's throw this out there. Let's say you went down to New Zealand, you got to get a job. Would you have to pay New Zealand taxes and then pay US$I? Yes. Get out of here. I wouldn't do that. Yeah, it's a really rough deal for US citizens working and living overseas. So is that what all the people who went to work on Lord of the Rings had to do?

Oh, those? I don't know. I don't know, I don't know the specifics of how that would work. I'm sure all those people didn't revoke their citizenship. I probably had to pay. I heard that the Hobbit got greenlighted by the way. Oh did it? Yeah. Nice. I think we talked about that actually. Yeah, we talked about the labor dispute they were having. I think they're all done with that and I think it's going to move ahead in New Zealand now. Yeah. As two movies. Yeah.

And speaking of movies, I'm starting to see more stuff about Tron, and I'm starting to get nervous. Not that the first Tron was this, you know, landmark cinematic event, but I'm still getting more nervous about the new Tron movie. I don't know, just that it's not going to be good. I'm pretty pretty excited about it It'll be not good in a bad way. That's not I'm worried about I read this morning bad the The triple X tron parody is already in the works. I got to hear the name of it. What's the name? Pron Is that true? Yes, totally true. I've got some pictures. I'll I'll link up the safer work stuff that I saw here online

Do you think the tron guy will make a cameo in Tron? They had no thought about that at one point, right? You know, I've never seen the original so I can't. I don't even know what you're talking about. I mean, I know it's going to happen to you. No, I have to pass my phone. I'm sorry. I know I've had the basic story,, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, That probably was a more wild concept back in 1982 when we didn't have the internet. Now if you wanted to the computer to be pretty fucking lame, a lot of people are talking about lunch. Well, I think now people have maybe a more general understanding of computers, and it's

not as exotic as it was back then. It's funny, I just remembered this. Yesterday my wife sent me this link to a video as a news report from San Francisco that was in 1981, I think, where they were showing this old man who could download the newspaper to his computer and he would do so every morning Really would dial up. I guess like a bbs, you know and hook up his modem and they're like, you know And the San Francisco newspapers one of the first newspapers that allowed this to happen back in 81 He's like look I can download this newspaper. It only takes me two minutes to download the entire newspaper and it's only $5 a minute. Oh, God. The 1981.

$1 a minute. Oh, this is a tangent. But did you guys see the Charlie Chaplin, like time travel theory video? I know. I just, I just saw it. And I just, for a second, I was kind of weirded out. And then it doesn't really make any sense at all. No. Like, there's no way could I do it's a it's a movie where they found someone walking by in the background and they're they look like they're talking on a phone walking down the Right, but she's holding could be holding her hat from the wind or anything. I think it looks I looks to me like she's scratching her head like this As she's walking, you know, it's touching her town touching their ear right and but by holding their hand over their ear It means they're on a cell phone just because that's what we do now like everyone on the set wouldn't a freak the fuck out that someone was Was doing a time travel person would be that dumb to walk by like yeah or that there was cell phone reception

Yeah, there's no Like walk here and try to find a signal. Yeah, true But it's time travel anything's possible, right? We barely use phones to make phone calls as it is now. You know, who the fuck was this person calling? That's the thing, too. It's like if they're a time travel person and if they have a way to communicate through time and not meeting like satellites or whatever, why would you have something you can hold

in your hand up to your ear? Right. Like, and there's got to be a more elegant system at that point. Why would you walk through a movie set? I'm just walking down the street. Oh, that's something you would easily pick out. And I guarantee they were letting people just wander through the back of the movie set that were just walking down the street. Right. They weren't just filming on the street. So that was debunked. The other thing that got debunked was this missile that was launched. Oh, right.

From somewhere in California, a bunch of people saw a missile take off. And the military all breaks the military saying, nope, we didn't fire a missile. We don't know what you're talking about. And no one can figure out what this thing was. And now they're saying it was a jet. It was contrails from a jet. Yeah, I read that too. That people mystic for a missile taking off from the ground.

I don't know, man, it seems weird. And there's a theory that because Obama apparently is in Asia that it's we fired a missile as it look an ICBM test to show that we you know as a show of strength while Obama's over there. I mean thinking about that if I were gonna do that I was military. I'd fire it somewhere closer to Asia rather than right off the coast of the US. Listen, if I'm in charge of that stuff, I'm not gonna test ICBMs. Just because I don't wanna fuck,

I mean, what do you do? You notify Russia or all the different parts of Russia that have broken up the USSR that are now these tiny countries with rusting silos and say, hey, this is not a real missile launching. This is a fake test missile that we're just launching towards India just for the fuck of it

Give me a break So I don't know what that is. That's the only thing I legitimately worry about with all that stuff is just now the maintenance of all those nukes Right, I don't even worry about like you know a guy showing up in downtown Manhattan with a suitcase bomb because I don't live there I do worry about like oh, yeah,, this system that we forgot to maintain or this system that wasn't prepared to roll over 2038. Yeah, some weird year that you don't even think about. Yeah, it's like, oops, we forgot about that and it launched all over, you know, rushes and missiles. You know, I hadn't thought about that, but now that I have something to worry about. Yeah, see, there you go., did you pick 2038 out of your ass or did you know about year 2030?

No, I mean about 20, there's a 2038 bug, right? Yeah. Yeah. I was just another Y2K type thing. Yeah, it is Y2K thing, yeah. It's where they can't handle dates beyond 2038. Right, it's like, I think because that date in 2038 is like the maximum expressable date as a 32-bit integer in binaries.

Okay. And then it rolls over. There's no way to handle it. I've watched a different space. I think your explanation was actually worse. Like the concept of 2038 was definitely more graspable. There's numbers. I thought it was some mystical thing I could wrap my head up. Yeah. It's when all the crystals are kind of discharged. It's when all the planets are going to line up and the gravitational force is going to move us just through. What does it think the galactic plane? Yeah, the galactic plane.

That's the new thing. That's the 2012 thing. It's nothing like that. Okay. We're going to cross over the galactic plane and our solar system will be cast through the universe at an alarming rate. I look forward to seeing the new stretches of the universe. But this is that's not like the first time we've gone across a plane,

right? Isn't that the whole idea of the age of whatever's. Yeah, I think last time was when all the dinosaurs died. It's right around there. Sometimes give it take a few years when they all croaked and explained. When all the meteors hit the earth killing them. Man, you know what? I saw this global warming explanation that this guy put out. It was linked somewhere as being, here's the definitive argument as to why we should be environmentally conscious and prepare for global warming. And everyone on the YouTube comments like, this guy is brilliant. He should take us out anywhere.

And essentially he had a grid, which was four choices, which is if we prepare or if we don't prepare in the case of, and this is the other axis, it exists or it doesn't exist. And basically what it is, you went through and said, if we don't prepare and it doesn't happen, then we're okay. And if we do prepare and it doesn't happen, then we've just spent a bunch of money, okay? And if we do prepare and it does happen,

global warming, catastrophe happens, then we're prepared for it we're great But the worst case here in this whole chart is if we don't prepare and it does happen and if that happens It's catastrophe in the world is destroyed. So The worst case scenario here is destruction of the earth and everything's terrible and you know, we all die So all the other scenarios are better. That's why we should prepare because the worst case scenario here is if we prepare is either we just spend some money for nothing or We save the planet those are the two outcomes there, whereas the other one is nothing happens or the world is destroyed That's why we have to prepare and it's like that's perfect

That's brilliant. It's like yeah if you believe it's gonna happen It's like why don't you take that same fucking case and apply to if dragons invade earth You know what I mean? It's like if we don't prepare for the dragons then guess what the world is destroyed you know it's like that's not the argument that some people don't believe it's taking place it's also a very high-level look at a very complex issue right and I'm one of those people that does believe in global war with this argument was just stupid and it was weird to see so many people just reacting positive there's a lot of bad

science on the internet I don't know if you noticed that. Bad science and bad math and faulty logic. Yeah, it was, it was, it was just people seeing a presentation and then just not seeing beyond the presentation. Right. Seeing what they were supposed, what they were being told to see. Clearist example of that that I've ever seen. But I'm still going to prepare for dragons.

Because you never know. Did you hear that a Boeing 787 on a test flight had an emergency landing in Texas yesterday? No, I really? In Laredo. They had to land. Left, fuck, they landed a 787 in Laredo. They had to land because there was smoke in the cabin and they had to exit off the emergency slides. Wow, that would be difficult. To put that in perspective, that would be like landing a 787 in Laredo. That's how big is Laredo is pretty small, right? It's like right on the ground. Yeah, but 787 is not huge.

It's not like, you know, the 747 or anything. It's a smaller plane, but still it's a, you don't want to be landing your new prototype plane in Laredo. No. The drug cartel already stole it and kidnapped it and they're holding it ransom. For back to Boeing, for $2 billion. Yeah, I mean Laredo for perspective is one of the cities in Texas that essentially shares the border with a Mexican city. So there's no way of a Laredo in Mexico, and then there's a Laredo on the U.S. side.

I think the only other city really like that is El Paso, and what's your contrast to Puerto Rico? Why is it? There's lots of cities like that. You'll passos like that. You'll passos next to what is Piedrasniagra. Yeah, that's a different town. And I think that you're saying is that sharing a name or things around ville, and Madame Morris. Yeah, but why doesn't it'll pass or the same name?

But there's a there isn't our Mexican side of El Paso and then a US side. Am I wrong? No, it's it's Maris is on the. Oh, I see what you mean. Okay. So your point is that that there are towns on the border. Yes, I see what you mean. Okay. So your point is that that their towns on the border. Yes. I guess that's my point. It's like it's like it's a it's a border town. What I'm saying is that it's not prepared to handle a seven eighty seven landing in its airport. No, probably not. I especially one that's having trouble and that has smoke in the cabin. They're like, oh, maybe we should have bought that fire truck. We should have had the dragon preparation scenario. You ready for this? I guess so dragon wants to land on our runway.

I remember one time about somebody landing one of those big airliners in a small runway and it punched through the runway. Oh, it's too heavy. Yeah, as it landed, those tires are solid rubber, they're not air. And so as it landed, it just went down the runway and just literally ripped up the runway and it's landed.

Man, fucked it up for everyone else. Pretty much. Did you see the video on break yesterday? Who knows if it's real or not? It's a guy, or two guys in a single engine prop plane and the prop dies and they have to land it on the road? I would never be real. I mean, it seems real to me.

I mean, it seems real, but who knows? Everyone always says everything on break is fake. Some of those dope, some break were saying the guy by the way who landed it was 22 years old. And he lands, they have a twin prop plane and both engines are dying and they start them and they die again And then they land on just a it looks like a highway in the middle of a town

So it's not elevated highway or anything like that, but that's where they land it and Somebody I break was saying oh, that's clearly a training exercise because you can tell I was quickly the reaction Who the hell's what private pilot is gonna have a training exercise in Lynn on a populated roadway? Yeah, I like how the the guys Though the instructor's telling him land in the field land in the field lands in the road and the guys like I'm sorry I'm sorry, I said no you did great watch a wing watch a wing I guess as they're pulling into a parking spot He pulls it into a parking lot and like parks the plane

They they stay remarkably calm for guys who are in the plane with the engine stop when the engine dies You hear a bunch're fuck fuck fuck and then that's it just like okay or you land i think you i think that at some point you have to get it together like and i have my kid panic or i can try to live i mean i think that people maybe have more control of themselves in the realize in the situations yet you know um... whatever friends crash the plane and from the vernice crash

the plane and he said he didn't even think about it uh... like panic wise because he was in control of the plane, Ed from the Bernic Lase crash the plane. And he said he didn't even think about it, like panic-wise, because he was in control of the plane. But the other people in the plane who don't have the stick in their hands, they are in panic mode, because they can't do anything. He's like, you know, he's a trained pilot, too, where he was just like, I just went into mode of like, I'm gonna recover this, I'm gonna do this, and it's like, he had something to do essentially, and so he didn't panic. He's mind becomes occupied with something to do rather than Overwhelming panic and fear about the situation. You also don't have that much time like they the videos like a minute 30

So you have to make a decision fast like if they run a long approach To this freeway they probably would have time to think like oh, how am I gonna land this thing? Yeah, how many power? It's like you just kind of deal with the situation. Yeah, but I think that I mean I think that argument is for as people being calm, especially if they they're pilots you know like you're expecting the worst at some point you know I think that it's a day it's no I know but like if you come and finally you're like there's a possibility that something's going to go wrong at some point and I'll have to deal with it.

True. So then that moment comes and then they deal with it. Yeah. Well it's the same thing with some earlier it's like you worry about all the stuff that can happen and then something you know crazy. Yeah. Well, it's the same thing with some earlier. It's like you worry about all the stuff that can happen and then something, you know, crazy, like, you know, the Russian missile silo. I worry about the human component of it.

Like there was that, whacked out dude on the Egyptian airliner who just decided he wanted to crash the plane. Oh, right. And they pulled the black box out and the copilot was trying to steer against him and he just is, you know, saying he said something like it's in God's hands

or whatever. You know, dives the plane and the copilot's pulling back, trying to pull them out of it. And so their flaps are going in different directions. How is it in God's hand if you're pushing down on the... Because you're crazy. I mean, you're killing yourself with an airline full of passengers, you know. You're just a looting tick. Yeah.

I love our air safety talks. Yeah, Gus and I, for as much as we fly, Gus and I spent a lot time on air disaster sites. What's the one you go to all this air disaster dot com I think it's dot com or dot org about I think it's dot com it catalogs Every incident that's ever happened. Well, that's the FAA's been around listen Don't go to the site. I'm not going to seriously. Don't don't pictures. Accounts. It got black box recordings You can listen to what was happening. Yes Not all pilots are calm. What's the point of that, man?

It's a... And sometimes, it's just out of nowhere. It's just like, hey, would you have for dinner last night? Oh yeah, that's cool. Yeah, you know, I... That's it. Crunch. That's it.

Nothing else. Hey, what's that Billy Goat doing up in this cloud? That's a far side crunch. That's a far side car. I'm quoting my Gary Larson here. My bowler, my all-time favorite far sides. There's two pilots and they're in a cloud and then there's this goat. I know that one.

I know that one. But yeah, there's some sort of thing if you're scared of flying, you should never see. One is area to zesters.com. The other is you're scared of flying you should never see one. It's area disasters. I come The other is that movie alive. That's a terrible one. Yeah with a soccer team crashes. Just don't watch it and you know what if you're in a plane I Wrote a list which I guess I should post of like travel tips now that I've hit you million frequent flyer miles I think you're you're an authority. I am I an authority. I think so a lot of good. I'm gonna blog with authority now I'm a Social media expert. I'm gonna blog with authority now. I'm a

Social media expert. You see these guys crop up. How do you become a social media expert? Spend a lot of time on Facebook. Yeah, I bookmarked Mashable. I downloaded rock melt Having our access feed, but if you're in a plane I mean the big thing I put in there is if you're nervous fire if the flight the flight attendants are not strapped in, you don't have anything to worry about. That happens pretty rarely. We, not to derail or you other, if you remember, we had that trip to Australia a few years ago where over the Pacific, they made the flight attendants strapped in. It was like 45 minutes, some of the worst turbulence I've ever experienced in my life.

Yeah, God. But I've heard the turbulence can't knock a plane out of the air. It can fuck you up in the cabin. Right. It can bounce you around the cabin like a ping pong ball. I've heard of people dying like that, not being strapped in and hitting the ceiling. There's videos of like people like flying up hitting a ceiling. Where are you fucking seatbelt?

That should be on your list. It is. Oh yeah, that's right. That was on your list. I think if you're going to die in a plane, we're like if you're going to bounce off the ceiling, you know, from turbulence, then, you know, that's right. That was on your list. I think you're if you're gonna die in a plane We're like you're even bounced off the ceiling, you know from turbulence then, you know crashing or something You know crashing is just like Matt calls it Matt calls it the national lottery of death That somebody has to die in a plane crashing. We all kind of buy a ticket into this thing and like you may not

But there hasn't been a fatal Commercial airline or crash since the week after 9-11. I don't know about that. I mean the Regional and commuter airlines, yeah. That is, I'm talking like, you know, the planes in most people fly. I think a lot of people fly commuter and regional stuff. It's true, it's true. Like connecting flights to smaller airports.

I probably flew one on this last trip because I had to go to North Carolina and it was probably considered that because it was the two seats on one side and the one seat on the other. I can't imagine any airport in North Carolina receives anything other than commuter. They have sure.

Like, come on, look at you, you're being you're being no no still the same thing I'm I bet it's all like you know United Airlines operated by Comma Air or while I flew American into Greenville Spartanburg oh wait no no you're right yeah yeah I'm like a meter one in there totally commuter I bet every airline uses a commuter brand thing there you know it's frightening if you ever have you guys ever been to Alaska no it's almost like a bus. Like we took a flight from Seattle to Sitka, Alaska. And in the moment you're going to tell us what we landed, I don't remember where we were.

But we stopped. We were in a small plane like that. And we stopped it every little town and like let people get on. If you were waiting for another flight, you just like stay on the plane. So it's like bus stops almost like being on a greyhound except you're flying. Wow, it was weird. It was really weird. And everyone on the plane was talking to each other like they knew each other, but they didn't. It was just a really weird, it was a weird thing. The last thing is a weird. Thank you. Some people want to talk to you on the plane. And some people don't want to talk to you on the plane.

I had a guy who wake me up to talk to me. It's the guy who couldn't talk right? The guy who didn't talk because he had throat surgery and I'm like, he like, he had made this pain face every time he talked and I couldn't understand him because he had throat surgery and he kept wanting to talk to me. And then when I asked him to like, what, I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying. You know, I could say dismissively so he would stop talking to me. He would then like, croak it out and like, be heard.

He would start like, stop talking to me. I'm not saying anything to you and you're like going through this massive Ever to talk to me. I'm just not interested. And he woke you up to do that. He woke me up at one point to talk to me. Ask me He was on a plane to Europe and he was a Croatian dude and he woke me up to ask me if I'd ever been to Europe before because I told him Where I was going and all this and then I fell asleep. I fell sick on the international fight. Fucker woke me up Do you sleep with your eyes open because I've had people wake me up thinking that I was asleep or thinking I was awake. I don't know, maybe I do, but I don't think so.

But she poked me. Oh, okay. So you can actively waking you up. Oh, yeah, if you talk to me, I will wake up. It takes a lot to wake me up. A good poking by a Croatian will do it though. All right, well, you guys want to wrap this podcast up? Well, we got on subject year,

so I want to talk about Stefano a little bit. Okay, okay. No, no, go for it. Because what I wanted here so i want to talk about stuff on a little bit okay that's okay no no go for it because what i want what i want him to come in and talk about the podcast was um one of the things really interesting is that he's from switzerland and they have compulsory military service in switzerland which i normally wouldn't associate with that country because they're the they're the neutral country right right you know that's what they're known for that's

their chocolate hey well he brought chocolate did you get some of the chocolate no i didn't know i thought that was i was i was awesome it was really awesome right he even brought us chocolate that looks like a swiss army knife all wrapped up and i think you did that because we're americans he's the real stuff you gotta bring us like the touristy one but um anyway so he we uh we met Stefano a few years ago because he was doing an academic paper and he was doing it about businesses on the web and just people

who were doing innovative things and so he covered Red versus Blue is part of it and it was just recently published It was a series academic academic endeavor Anyway On his last trip here he told us that he was part of this compulsory service But then also part of the military service that everyone has to do in Switzerland is then they also issue you a gun that you have to keep in your house. So, there's mandatory gun ownership as well. And that he had to go through a process with the government of giving up his gun and essentially

proving that he's pacifist. And he had to go through with these guys and do these interviews where they're like, you know, are you trying to pull a fast one here? Are you trying to make fun of us? What is this? And he's like, no, I just don't want a gun. And he had to go through this long process of giving him his rifle. It's like the second amendment. I'm sterile. It's like, not only can you own a gun. You have to own a gun. Yeah, you have to own a gun. It's like, and this is Switzerland, you know, this is, these are bankers and watchmakers is what you, what

at least what I think when you were saying to you that it's not like a useful, like a gun that you'd really use in self defense it's just against people get drunk and shoot their spouses with whatever what's a military like you know I think I'm thinking like an m1 Abrams is the way he's describing it no it's a tank what's that what's the ground you're on thank you and that's what I'm thinking like a big like World War 2 era rifle you know yeah it's probably bulky and huge and hopefully they'll never have to use it guess where, were the Swiss invaded during the World War II?

I don't believe so. Let's say it out of it, right? It's because everyone there had a fucking gun. Maybe he said a criticism, which would be like, maybe it worked. What do you think about that? You're a gun guy. I have a gun too. I don't agree with it.

I think if people want a gun, they should be able to, but I don't think you should force everyone to own a gun Man, I have I know a guy old school Texas guy and he was he was he flew a lot to the traveling sales guy and He said Southwest Airlines in the day back in the day was like this Alaska Airlines you're talking about you could pay them at the gate Like you could show up at the airport go through security and then just give them $20 at the door They would let you on Southwest, which is why they have general boarding and they don't have assigned seats. Oh, that's interesting.

I didn't know that. Their history was like, yeah, planes leaving at three o'clock, show up at three o'clock if you want to get on it. And you're like, that's cool. They collect money at the game. That's why I guess a lot of people in Texas like that appeal of that.

It would just like, It'd be even better if you could get on the plane and then you pay once you're on there. Like kind of like a train, like they come by looking for tickets, you even have, we just give the flight attendant a 20. Yeah, you try to avoid eye contact with the driver, that kind of thing.

Go to the bathroom, send it to the whole flight. But he had a philosophy too of give everybody a gun, mandatory, everyone has to have a gun. He thought everyone should have a gun on their hip, because there would be no crime at all. I don't agree with that. I think about how angry you get all day, like just little things that annoy you all day long and if you had a gun in your hip how like how much would it take to get you to that point. Car accidents would be a big thing like people get a car accident and you have a long tail on your hip and it does. Yeah that's road rage man. There's a road rage incident in our

mole pack a couple of months ago where somebody I got cut off and you pull out a gun and shot the shot at the car that cut him off. No, wait, really? Yeah, down like a backpack in 360. I think that would happen a lot if everyone had a gun with them a lot of times. Because I don't know, not everyone's at stable. Some people should not own guns. No, not at all. But I would think the people who are not stable go out and get guns anyway.

I mean, a lot of people have guns in their car and we hear about this kind of thing pretty early. Yeah, but there's a whole process. I mean, you have to go through a whole process to get again. No, no, no, I thought you had to go like do training and all that You want to go get a gun right now? I'm gonna go get a gun. You can you can walk in. Is there an academy around here? Yes, you can walk into that academy and walk out on a gun in probably five minutes If you don't have a felony, if you're in a film restrictions, okay, well, I'm about to that was a joke I'm not gonna buy gun. I'm not gonna commit any crimes. I was like anti-cov earlier. You should. I'm telling you to start lining up. Alright, well let's wrap it up. Alright, let's wrap it up.

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