Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #91

Episode Date: December 8, 2010

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Twisted metal, streaming now on P-Coc. Welcome to the Ruestrat Teeth Drunk Tech! Hello! We got the Rockin' Intro today. What's up, guys? Not much, it's Gus, Jeff and Jack. That's your name's right, that's my name. Yes. One of those two, we're doing the podcast.

We might get a fourth later, we'll see I hope so I hope you have a fourth Hey, guys doing I'm doing pretty good guys. I hope this doesn't become an achievement hundred podcasts When you guys you guys here all right, let's do it. What are you gonna talk about first? Well, I think the the big item everyone's talking about or thinking about at least Tron the video game Tron the video game. I saw you playing that a lot yesterday. I played it yesterday. How is that game? It's okay How's the movie? I don't know it comes out next week The 17th the video game is you know, it's okay. It's like a Prince of Persia style game. Oh, yeah Yeah, it seems like they like that. There's some slow-mo effect. We jump in the air and throw a disc at the Show over and over for our saw you playing think like

Prince of Persia meets mirrors edge Okay, and that's pretty much the game two games I never played yeah, there you go in the grid in the grid I can't believe I never played mirrors edge. I think I saw you playing it briefly and I just never picked it up If it helps I can't believe I'm playing Toronto Well, you play a lot of weird games for a I bought the the soundtrack for Tron Legacy last night. All right. Is the the Daff Punk soundtrack? Uh-huh. Uh, it's pretty good, but one thing I notice though,

the, uh, the titles of the songs actually spoil bits of the movie. If you've seen the first movie, it spoils bits of the movie, I think. It spoils bits of a 25-year-old movie? No, no, no, no, no, the new movie. I don't know if you haven't seen the new movie. Well, I'm assuming it does. I haven't seen the new movie yet, but there's stuff in the title that's like, oh, no, no, the new movie. I don't know if you haven't seen the new movie. Well, I'm assuming it does I haven't seen the new movie yet, but there's stuff in the title is like oh well shit

Like I don't want to say anything because I hate spoilers, right? But yeah, so if you do buy the soundtrack you can buy it without reading the titles go for it. Don't read any titles Yeah, yeah, don't don't look at your your music player hot play But anyways pretty bad at soundtrack. I listened to it last night while I was playing wow and it fit very very well That they had that music video didn't they that deaf punk music video that was like cut in with with footage in the movie. You have song D-Res? I think it was. Yeah, yeah, it's one of the cool songs. Well, yeah, they're actually in the movie too. Like they've got their deaf punk outfits. Is it their tron eyes now? This is pretty cool. All right, well I don't want to see the film anymore.

Are you guys going to see that? That sounds as cool as putting a Backstreet Boys in Star Wars. They weren't in Star Wars. No, they weren't. I was supposed to be in sync, I think, and they never actually showed up. Are you sure? Gus Internet. Oh, I'm trying.

I'm about 90% positive. They're not actually in it. Because there was a huge outcry. People were bitching like you. People who were fans of the movie shouldn't be in the movie. And then they never actually... I wasn't the people who were fans of the movie shouldn't be in the movie. And then they never actually listen to people who are fans of the movie shouldn't be in the movie. It's teeny-bop boy singers who aren't actors shouldn't be in the movie. Why? Why not?

I guess they were cut after fan out crying. They were there and they were cut. People bitching like you. They were supposed to be in it, but then I guess if I can't be on a no one can. I don't want to be in Star Wars. I just don't want them to ruin Star Wars by putting people who aren't good. Yeah, because that's what ruined the first three or the prequels. That's what ruined the prequels. Yeah, talk about Segway. You guys are like spot on. I read this morning on Slashdog. Oh my god. George Lucas is buying the rights to dead actors in the hopes to

like use computer like CGE to try to get them to be in current films with current actors Jack's got to be totally fine with that. Well, there was a movie Skycaptan in the world of tomorrow where they didn't they use They use someone who is dead they used his face and is and is like aerial Flynn I don't think it was a real Flynn. I didn't hear that They used to brand and Lee in the crow. It's true They used the mama soprano and sopranos. Oh, man. Yeah, that was after that bitch croaked. That's a terrible scene. This is really weird and obvious. So bad. But like, what would they be like reused old dialogue? Yeah, it was. They'd be kept here like in the dark in the corner. So you couldn't really see her. Yeah, he saw enough.

It was a fucking horror movie. It was liby a there you go he's dead and rocking my world today jack was also okay with that for the record you can put anybody in any movie and it'll be cool I don't know corner jack only if it's a referential so if you guys been playing any I know I know the answer this question already if you guys been playing any cataclysm yeah of course that's what what everyone's really psyched about. Yeah. I made a goblin yesterday.

I went through a little goblin area. The goblin starting stuff. So you went from the, whatever it's called, to the lost aisle. Yeah, Kiz on to the lost aisle. And then where do you go from lost aisle? Calendar. Oh, really? Yeah.

Okay. Where do you land in calendar? Right outside of org. Oh, that's cool. It took me like six hours to get through all the goblin starting stuff to the point where I was finally in org. And then like I was like, oh, finally, an area I know. And I didn't know a goddamn thing. Second I walked into org I was like, what the fuck is this? You get lost in org? Yeah, it's like I can't find anything. That lost aisle is pretty fucking cool. It's gorgeous. All that goblin starting stuff was really cool. You pointed it out that a lot of those starting quests, you don't kill stuff. It's not what you're used to.

It's very varied, very varied. And there's a good mix of quests and things to do. Yeah, I haven't really played well in Ernest since around Burning Crusade time. So the game feels like a totally, totally different game to me. And I don't know how many of those changes came along the way and how much of it is as a result of cataclysm. But I was floored by how varied the quests were. And I'm still are.

I mean, I'm in the lost hour right now. It's like from one quest to another, it's like chop down a hundred plants and then commit arson. And then blow some chickens up. 100 plants and then you know commit arson and You know, blow some chickens up and it's like I'm catching the rock to the chickens was fucking fun. It's fun as hell dude every mission is like that And then at one point it's like go kill some sharks and I was like oh, yeah, I kill stuff. I totally forgot my character kill stuff It's like a perfect I was too busy giving people drinks at a party. I didn't even think about it

You know, oh you have to fight the pirates You do have to attack the party. That's true. But it's like it's really cool because like as soon like the one thing in the back of your head when you're about to start As you're like, oh, I'm not looking forward to the you know first 30 level grind and And then it's like you expect it to be like go collect 10 flowers go get 10, you know, wargain hearts and I don't know Some fucking claws off some dead animals, and then none of that shit happens. And I feel like even when you did have to, you might not have gotten to this quest yet,

but there's one where you have to like kill Naga and get intact Naga hide. And I haven't fucking goes one of those where you have to kill 100 of these things to get five. And I felt like the drop rate was okay. I felt like I killed maybe 10 or 15 of them to get five of the items I needed. Oh really? That's awesome. So before I felt like you would have to kill a lot of that shit so far And I'm only level eight and I'm about halfway through lost aisle. I think I so far From what I can tell

Or from the missions. I've had the dropper. It's been one to one Like it's really it feels like a really streamlined version of the game and you and Griffin ran into an issue where you all couldn't see each other for a while. We still can't. Yeah, the, uh, you were at different points in the quest line. So the world was different to you. Everything was instant stop. We're phased out. Yeah. So I've had no, so I'm actually not as far in the Well as I'd like to be because once you explain that to me, I stopped and so now I'm waiting for her to catch up. She's got about an hour of gameplay to catch up to me, I think. And then hopefully we'll be able to quest together.

You should be able to. Which would be awesome. Yeah. But not that, I mean, it's so fast and easy. It's like, it really, I really do feel like another thing, too. Like, you go into starting areas. Like, I felt like I was in, I know, I still to this day, no Camp Tarrahu, like the back of my hand.

And the crossroads. And yeah, well, all that old stuff, Ashen I could I could run in my sleep, you know, cuz you you You want you once you get to those zones you feel like you're there for fucking ever, you know like rom go base camp I have nightmares about that and and This like I feel like they present like the lost aisle and I'm on this fucking beach head And it's really cool and gorgeous and they're like all right go blow some monkeys up All right now we're warping to the next area and you just like it feels really linear

and like you're just blowing through terrain and you don't have a chance to get bored of areas. It's really cool. Can you get to the Lost Isles outside of starting a new character? I don't think so. No, not yet. At least starting. I don't know that they'd ever do that if they'd ever open it up.

Oh yeah, I guess it's a starting area. Yeah, it's a starting area and it's so instant sharded as you're doing your quests, I don't think it would make sense for someone to come back and look at it. Well, I think once I hit probably 85 with my mage I've got right now, my role in new character and just check it out. Yeah, I'm thinking about rolling another character as well, maybe an undead character, just because I heard that all the original race starting areas and starting quest were also a redoing.

Yeah, and we both heard that the undead starting areas supposed to be tremendous. Yeah, so I was gonna roll and I'm probably today. I'm gonna roll an alt undead just so I can play while Gryffin's Catching up man. Have you looked through the the new achievements new guild achievements they have set up? Yeah, I've looked at a I mean that extensively. I've I've browsed over them. It seems pretty cool. I got like three or four last night just for being online. Yeah Well, I mean, it's part of the if you're you, if you're part of a guild, you're gonna get those two. But some of them pretty cool. There's actually like, there's one for, it's getting every race up to level 85.

And then there's one, then there's individual ones underneath that where it's like, get a certain race or all the professions under a certain race up to 85. Or not a profession, so what's the word I'm looking for? Classes. Classes up to 85. So it's like, you know, get a troll, you get a troll mage, troll priest, troll, you know, platinum, like to 85 so it's like, you know get a troll you get a troll made troll Priests troll you know platinum like try and so it's like then there's another team and that gets you know all the all the races and all the classes

I see it's like it's huge. I'm looking at him right now and they're like for example you said troll Yeah, the achievement for that is classy trolls. Yeah, yeah, it's classy troll reach level 85 in each of the troll classes Well, also I've noticed and there's probably just because I'm playing goblin, which is kind of a funny race to begin with. Well, I always had like a decent level of humor, but I feel like with the goblin, at least the goblin starting area stuff, they really knocked it out of the park. It's been like just silly all the way through, you know? But in a good way, not like not goofy.

It's been pretty funny. Yeah, I've, don't take, don't tase me, Mom, made me laugh. They don't tase me, Mom, you seem here. My life is wondering why I was laughing. Yeah, no, I had't take don't take me mom made me like that. Don't take me mom to see me. Yeah, my life is wondering why I was laughing. Yeah, no, I had to stop because I was laughing so hard. So you even made it to the point to get archeology at have you? No, no, no, I guess you haven't done any of that stuff. I just got it to org and I logged out. I think the archeology trend is somewhere in org. I'll

have to find him. Yeah, he's writing the big like the central building, whatever work, garage is now. It took me a while to all it took me a while to figure out that I had to go to a machine to learn my professions. Like I didn't notice that in the Lost Isles. Like there's like a profession vending machines. I just ran you. Have you seen the warrior?

Yeah, it's a targeting dummy. It's awesome. So I wish I was a warrior now, just so I could interact with them. Yeah, Griffin's a warrior. She has fun with that guy man We could use some some warriors in the the drunk tanks. That's the the guild I run. How's that going? It's going pretty well, man We're up to almost 200 players right now. Um, it's it's been fun like we started running We started running a lot of the old instances last night because we realized there's a lot of guild achievements tied to having four or five Guild members together running instances. So we ran like rfc

ran um what we tried running scarlet monastery head issues with that sfk and Dead mines. What wing of scarlet monastery the very very last one like the the I forget what his name is, but we literally got to we got the final boss of it And then we a player to drop out and then we didn't get the achievement for it. So that sucks. Our, our instances like Shadowfantkeep and Scrawlmonastery any different Gus or they identical. I heard there's like a harder version. There's heroic instances now.

Yeah, well, there've been heroic for a while, but they went back and I think there's a heroic Shadowfantkeep. I'm not sure if I'm right about that. Yeah, let's see heroic black rock caverns. Oh yeah, heroic shadow fan keep. Also, let me actually heroic dead mines. All of the dead mines is fun. Like they've redone the gear. So like all of the clothing has colors around it now. Is there any significance to to that? What do you mean? Well, like I'll get like a wristguard and it'll have

like a red background around it. And then I'll get one that has a blue background. But it doesn't seem to be tied to green and blue and orange equipment. I can't figure out if there's any icons. I'm trying to figure out if there's a significance to it. If you look at your characters, it's totally different than it was last time I played. I don't know. I didn't notice that. Yeah, it's weird. Strange. I'll take a look at it

after the podcast, but I will say one cool thing is being able to fly around Orgimar and just flying around the old world is pretty badass. It makes makes it makes it makes archaeology a lot easier because you just fly to wherever you need to be, drop down and start working. I saw a couple of years ago, it might have been around. I don't remember when it was, probably right after Bernie Crusade came out. I saw someone make a video on a private server where, you know, since it was a private server, they were able to fly around the old world. And you could see just how incomplete a lot of the land was

which is why they never opened up flying for the longest time there. I guess until cataclysm when they had to redo a lot of the work anyway. Yeah, yeah, this one's thrown in. To retext everything from the top and the different angles. Yeah, there's still some rough textures if you get up high enough. Like some of the work anyway. Yeah, yeah, this one's thrown into a retexture everything from the top and the different angles. Yeah, there's still some rough textures if you get up high enough.

Like some of the tops of trees and stuff around a not action veil. What's in the Southwest? In the Southwest to what? Like near Angora crater, talking about like a feralus, that might be it. I was flying up above there one time. It was like the trees were kind of rough,

but it's understandable. You're not supposed to be that high. I logged in to one of my old characters Who was in Pharrell this yesterday just to see if it looked any different of the identical? I was kind of disappointed by that man. You were talking my camp tea that it's kind of sad flying through those old areas now It's been destroyed. I don't know if you've gotten to see it yet. Yeah, I've seen videos point the alert Well, it is based on online for eight months showing that stuff. Yeah, but yeah, man It's kind of sad like the first time I could fly a flu down the southern barons because the the great divide

Basically kept me from doing that and Yeah, seeing Camtine like even though the flight trainer like the flight path guy He's still easy still laying their dead. It's kind of like oh man. I went through this guy so many times I remember when there was no flight path in Camtine and we liked it Everywhere now, you notice that yeah, they've really opened that up. They really made it easier for I guess leveling those first You know 20 levels or so I hear there's also tons of trainers in the crossroads now, which is fucking awesome That was a worse time going from the crossroads fuck up to order or the fucking Thunderbluff. Yeah, who wants to go there though?

That sucks. We're not a fan of Thunderbluff. No, Thunderbluff. It's terrible. It's it's it's it's fucking confusing for no reason. Yeah, the triple tears and all that shit And then having to figure out like which rise you need to go to off to the side or it was always easier Maybe it's just because it was like the first big city I encountered. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no Org was much easier. Not anymore though. I fucking don't know my way around there. You got that mason stuff now and org. Pretty confusing. Yeah It took me forever to find the fucking flight path and zeppelins. Yeah, I fucking don't know my way around there. You got that mason stuff now and org? Pretty confusing. Yeah, it took me forever to find the fucking flight path and zeppelins. Yeah, I felt like an idiot.

Miss elevators, yeah, oh man, it was awful. Pretty crazy. All right, a lot of fun. Looking forward to wasting a lot of time, indeed. Yeah, I'm gonna see, I usually get bored around 40 and then I grind out to like 40, 45 and then quit. And then, you know, for like eight months, then come back, don't remember how to play.

So I just started a new character get up there again and quit. So I'm going to see if maybe I can break my 45 record this time around. Yeah. And we are looking for members for the drunk tanks is the guild I'm running right now. So what role is that on? We're on Don Bringer. Don Bringer, which is a PVE server, which was a point of contention between you two. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, dude. I just don't I just don't get it like we're fighting a war against the alliance why wouldn't you want to fight the war we're still fighting a war it's the alliance controls the people behind you just collecting naga huds you know I just I like to play against people I guess that's the difference like I wouldn't want to play halo multiplayer against bots for instance I would only want to play against other people or call a duty it's

same same thing but in a way you'd want to play against other people or Call of Duty, same thing. I don't know why you'd want to play Wow against NPCs only. Because there's going to be dickheads like you just trolling the whole time. But that's part of the fun. It's like the level, like it adds a level of tension and danger when you play that's like a real entangible. No, only for the first 45 levels to be quit. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. No, you see, like, you know, you're talking about, you don't want to play online or you don't, you know, you don't want to play Halo without people. I don't want to play with those 12-year-old kids screaming And that's the essentially the exact same thing you can't hear those people. Okay. Can you mute those assholes? We're gonna stand outside of an instance Do you hear? That's right. Well, it's essentially the same thing. It's like they're grieving people, but do you hear them? I Don't understand. Why would I what am I muting? Thank you. Gus you're on the

same page as I'm. No, I embrace both. I have PVP and PVE characters. If you had to pick one, you can only play. Luckily I don't have to. They give you the choice. The one I will not pick is RPPPP though. Yeah, I'm not playing a fucking RPS over. Yeah, that's ridiculous. You know who's big into those? Back in the day. Who? Becca. Yeah, that's ridiculous. He knew who's big into those back in the day who Becca really remember we used to play a what was that game? Oh, yeah, I was a game age It was they had RV R is what they call it realm versus rail. Yeah, she got a lot dark age a cam. Why she was all up in the role playing Yeah, so embarrassing for her Dark age cam was pretty good game. Yeah, we went back in the day. It's still around

probably Dark Age of Camelows is a pretty good game. Yeah, way back in the day. Is it still around? Probably. I think I, like before, I went through a long period where I would play MMOs and none of them attracted me enough to where I'd want to play past the first free month. And I almost paid for Dark Age of Camelows. Yeah, I remember you, Dan and I were used to play that together. I think the only MMO I ever paid for before a while was I paid for a couple of months of galaxies. Yeah, and V2. the only MMO I ever paid for before Wow was I paid for a couple months of galaxies. And then with Wow I've had a subscription for pretty much since the game launch.

You never paid for Ashron's call? I don't think I ever played Ashron's call. I remember you had a friend that was really big into it. Yeah, he uh, the game, the game never looked appealing to me. He loved Ashron's call and he would like, while he was at work, he had this script that would run that would make his character go to a vendor, by apples, peel the apples, make apple pies, then sell the apple pies back to the vendor. It was like really? It sounds fascinating. Like for eight hours a day, the script would run, and sometimes he'd come home and like someone had bumped him or he wasn't making his script,

wasn't running right, his pies were all fucked up. The pile of broken pies. broken pies are awesome sounds like a fucking awesome game. Did you ever play lineage two? We had a bunch of friends that got really into that for a while. Yeah, I played again That's one of those games I played for a month and then gave up on I just didn't get it. It wasn't fun Did you ever try to find a fantasy online? No, I never did I never did either. That's console too. We can play that in our Xbox if we wanted to yeah I never did either. That's console too. We can play that on our Xbox if we wanted to. Yeah. No, this didn't interest me. Yeah. Okay. I think I haven't played a Final Fantasy game since Final Fantasy 10. I want to say you I think you yeah, the last Final Fantasy game I remember you playing is actually nine. Yeah, I know I played 10 the Waterball Titus Yeah, Titus and walk on all this

Yeah the water ball tightest yeah tightest and walk on all this yeah I've no idea what you guys talking about right now I played 13 how was that good I liked it it was a lot like 10 um I didn't finish it because I had to move on to the stuff for a few more but I you know I played it earlier this year it was fun you know it's a fucking final fantasy it's exactly what you remember yeah it's it's one of those series where I know I'm going to get into hate mail I don't tends to hate mail. I don't know. I feel like I don't know. I grew it.

Yeah, I can understand that. I can definitely understand that. The leveling system is pretty cool. They have like the orb grid kind of thing. I hate that shit. It's better than 10. That's what I think is drove me away. It's cool because it allows you to customize.

You really customize how you level your character, which is kind of nice. And then there's like the like the weapon creation and modification stuff is pretty, pretty rich. I remember I getting kind of lost in that and having fun just trying to level up my weapons and not really paying attention to the story. And then, you know, I had to move on. Story's fucking final fantasy story, you know, what are you going to do? Yeah.

End of the world. Some fucking 16 year old kid who has trouble with his parents. Some nature shit. Yeah. Some sort of a soul. Some fucking 16 year old kid who has trouble with his parents some nature shit. Yeah Some sort of the soul So sort of a soul the soul of the planet who knows so do you think that You'll pay for the old republic? I don't know. I mean, I inclined to say yes But I'm not gonna have room in my life for two of them. I don't know if I room in life for one It all comes down to the question. Well, old republic be available on max of them. I don't know if I've roomed my life for one. It all comes down to the question, will the Republic be available on Max?

Yeah, I don't know. I hope it is. If it genuinely hope it is too. If it's not, then there's a 0.0 chance that I'll play it. I think I'm pretty much in the same boat with you. Yeah, I'm not going to buy a PC. At this point, you're going to have to, right? But, boy, my boot camp. I mean, like, at this point, you would think they would have to, you know, make a Matt client, right? I mean, your typical at this point, you would think they would have to, you know, like make a Matt client, right? I mean, that's it.

You're typical casual gamer or someone who's not going to be, you know, as hardcore of, you know, a gamer is going to own a Mac. Plus their market shares increased significantly, right? They're like 10% no. I think it's over 10. Is it really? I think so. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know. It's still, it still seems like a niche market to me. But we are starting to see, I mean, steam with steam coming out, and you know, Blizzard fully supports Max. That maybe we'll get there. We'll see. So did you hear that there's rumors that EverQuest 2

may have its own cataclysm type expansion? Can't play. I guess so. Are people still playing EverQuest 2? I guess that's the news. That's the real news. EverQuest 2 has a server. It still exists. I remember back in the day that the sad thing about every

quest too was that like three times the amount of people were still playing one. They didn't like to. It's the same thing that happened to I think it's the same thing happened to lineage and astronauts call. Yeah, I remember like one being like people don't flooding over to two and then going like, yeah, I'm fucked this.

Wash their hands and go back to one. Yeah. But so I guess they're. Yeah, I'm fucked this, wash their hands and go back to one. Yeah. But uh, so I guess they're, uh, yeah, the, that's their, uh, their attempt to, sketch up to Blizzard again. Do you, do you remember back when Everquest was the king, right? It was the big thing that everybody was playing. And when we worked at that tech company and everybody played

and they'd come on the weekends and all that shit. Yes, I had a roommate. Yeah, uh, I had a roommate who played so much that I quit paying my half of the phone bill because he was always on the motor plane ever. It was like before we had high speed. The phone was always in fucking use. I did. I didn't have him playing ever. I remember that game being like this crazy juggernaut that was so popular and I went back and looked at some figures one time and I think at the height of its popularity it had like 500,000 users. No way. Yeah No way. It was nowhere near as big in the grand scheme of things What's that what's that magic thing that made wow so popular and it is remained popular? It's good

But I mean like I'm sure the other ones were good too like there had to be some sort of element that they were okay It's I think it's the same thing that makes Diablo and Starcraft so popular Blizzard makes fantastic games. You get immersed in the world, you get lost in it, and they just do their fucking endlessly entertaining. When did you start playing wow after it was created? How far away from the beginning of it, where you in? I probably started six months in.

I think maybe Gus, Gus drug me in. Yeah, I started a month after it came out. Jesus. So I probably started five or so. I'm gonna say I started six months after you started You know Getting ready for cataclysm I was going through and like cleaning up my wildfolder and everything and I realized I still had like every patch

I'd ever downloaded for a while since I started playing the game. Wow I was like why the fuck do I still have all this stuff? It was so much wasted space digital relics like I remember the time I decided to start playing Wow. We went to this terrible convention, and we were in the hotel room. You griffin' Bernie and I, and Bernie was playing on his laptop, and I was watching him run around as a panther, and I was like, this looks, I think he was in Ashenvale, and I was like, yeah, I got to play. I wish I hadn't seen the screen, watching Bernie run around like that looked like so much fucking fun, and that's when I think he was in Ashenvale. And I was like, yeah, I gotta play. I wish I hadn't seen the screen,

watching Bernie run around like that, look like so much fucking fun. And that's when I decided to jump in. Who's you and he were constantly talking about that. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. And you write about EverQuest subscription. I had to look it up. I guess they peaked at like 450,000 subscribers.

Yeah, which is crazy because it felt like millions. And 118,000 simultaneous logins. What's the highest login simultaneous? Let me get my words out of order there for, for a world of warcraft. I'm gonna have to look that out. I'm gonna guess that's a technical, whatever that, that, a login is,

it's a technical limitation. And they may not have that out. Yeah, it's true. Like, not a really set. I'm sure whenever cataclysm would lie like that first day is probably their highest. Griffin was having a mouse trouble last night. So, I dropped both of our accounts out.

So I could look at something and then she logged back in and I went and like did something around the house and came back to try to log in and I couldn't get in for 30, 40 minutes. Wow. Last night. Yeah, for an in my post in an image where he was like, I think he was like a thousand something on the queue to get into his server. Wow. He's like, well, I'm moving realms.

And so he moved his character. Yeah. It's like a throwback to the old days. I remember when the game fucking launched and when I started playing it's like a throwback to the old days. I remember when the game fucking launched. When I started playing it was like that you have to wait in queue. If you were always like a hundred and eightyth in line, which meant you were gonna wait twenty-eight minutes.

Yeah, and it would give you like your estimated weight time. Like, oh, well, to play the game you like, you'd, you know, you'd log in, get in queue, and then go do other stuff, and come back and play the game when it was ready. So we get to speak into that. Did you did you catch the flying video we put out yesterday, guys? No. It's, uh, so I stayed up till when Cataclysm went live and so around like 205 central standard time, whatever I guess on Tuesday morning. I went up to the flight path area in Orgermar because everyone was sitting there waiting for that flight trainer to allow them

to access flight like flying across you know, there's hard, the, Yeah, calendar, yeah, calendar. And, you know, you had to log off to reset cataclysm. And everyone got a message saying, you know, you must restart, wow, in order to activate your cataclysm stuff. So everyone dropped offline and immediately, they're like trying to get back on,

took about 30 minutes. And then once I did get back on, I was able to film like people getting their flying for the first time. So it was kind of cool sitting there and watching people like getting their flying and then taking off I wonder if there's anybody who Logged in and stayed logged in when Kedrickson went live, but hasn't logged off like this. He'll play. Yeah

So you still have old wow, they're like I'm not I'm not upgrading Not only Blizzard puts up with that shit. They do the auto shutdown, right? I always I would always get those messages like, the server is shutting down in four minutes. Yeah, well, they'll have maintenance on Tuesday. Before a week, they might be able to play the old version. That would be weird. I wonder if you would still see the new players flying around and stuff, and if you couldn't do it,

or how that would work. Or if you like XP and stuff you got would transfer over. Yeah, yeah. I don't think you can see this player flying around, because I asked that, well, I don't know, maybe not. Maybe you can, I don't know, I didn't do it, so I can't vouch either way. Oh, we'll do that for the next expansion. There you go. There we go. So that one, well, they've had three expansions now. Yeah, version crusade, uh, rest of the lich king and cat close them. That's over the course of six years. Yeah. All right.

Break next speed. Yeah. So we're averaging just just under two years. Mm-hmm. An update now. I think just about every two years, because they just celebrate their six. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, two years almost on the dot then. Mm-hmm. All right. I mean, players, they have 12 million. Something like that. Yeah. So a few more than ever, Quest. Hannah, no kidding. It's fun, man. I just started playing about a year ago. Like, when I pretty much want to start working here. I finally fell into it and it's been fun. I gave crap to people who play it, but man, it's good times.

So go wow. You know what I'm excited about? What's that? You, the all achievement 100 podcasts we're about to have. I'm excited about that new game mode, Jack and I made up Monday, achievement horse. Oh, yeah, that's fun It's a lot of fun. I'm excited, but I'm also very sad that my email box is now broken again I'm getting too many emails Jeff's like here send it to this what one should explain what it is for people who

If you haven't seen it I had this idea that like it would be cool to play horse Throughout video games like I could go into a game and challenge Jack to say like, let's do this in Dead Space, first person to do it, and then we jump to another game like Grand Theft Auto, like jump a bus in a car or whatever, just come up with goofy little things, and I was looking at the wall,

I was trying to figure out my head, I was looking at the wall of games we have. And then I saw a reach and I was like, oh fuck, it reach has forge mode. There's no end to what we could do in there, let's just do it and reach. And so we sat down and I explained the concept of Jack, and then we both started building maps.

And then we created just like this wacky video that's literally like Jack made a map that's like jump this gorge and land on the other side. And then I made one that would be like get the golf ball in this basket up in the sky. Like that kind of stuff. And we just competed in a game of horse and kind of video for it just for the hell of it and it people went nuts for it. Yeah it's

been really cool. Yeah it seemed like it was a blast. Yeah it's a ton of fun. It took us the entire day and we were just I don't remember laughing that much and that like super intense like when somebody finally gets it you know. Yeah. There's nothing better than like doing something before Jeff. You know like having a lot for you. Yeah well I like to say I get the toughest one out of all the ones we had. I would think so. Keep telling yourself that anyway. Anyway, so then we decided to make it a week.

I think a Wednesday weekly feature where people can send in their own horse maps first to play and then go against each other. But of course, it'd be great if you could make, if you could find a way to make it a game type to where like you have a giant course with different I'm pretty sure setups all around. Yeah smarter people guys like knock yard could probably figure that out You know people who really understand forwards because for just fucking it's deep deep deep deep with options So yeah, we'll probably continue to do it our getaway until somebody smarter than was shows decided to There's got to be some more streamlined with the game types like almost like the rally game types or something

You know where you could trip sort of you could trip a gate or something. Right. I'm not sure exactly how. But we also figured out. Jack put up some of the maps so people can go to his file share and try them. It's cool. So it's pretty neat.

You look forward to doing it every week. You should set up a dedicated achievement hunter, Xbox Live account, and then put all your map shares and stuff in there. It's a really good idea. It's not a bad idea at all actually. Yeah. I try to get paid the big bucks.

Fuck an idea, man. You get paid. I get paid in Xbox Live points. I'm not your soft points. Yeah, Microsoft points. Yeah. Hey, did you hear about this Xbox Live rewards program? Yes, I did.

When does that go live, do you know? I think it might already be live. It's crazy. I just heard about it this this past week I'm rich. I must have been out of the loop or something. Did you ever sign up for like that Microsoft frequent player card or something? Remember riding the 360 came out there was some sort of weird promotion They did where they actually would mail you a card And I got it

And no idea. I think they didn't have anything with it. It's no clue what you're talking about All right, well anyone you know who knows what the hell what's talking about. I don't know. I don't know. Anything with it. It's... No clue what you're talking about. Alright, well, anyone who knows what the hell I'm talking about, it was some weird gamer card thing. Like it was supposed to, you could use it at, you know, Sam Goodie to get this counts or something like that. Hmm. I don't know, but... Well, in more relevant news, there is the Xbox Live rewards program.

Yeah. Which is pretty cool. Which I guess allows you to... You get like affiliate points or points for doing stuff on Xbox Live. Yeah. And then you can redeem them for, I'm not sure exactly what. Like MS points, right? Yeah.

Well, I just think I don't think they are MS points. I think they're like rewards points. And you can like redeem them for special avatar clothing or other things. Somebody's gonna get to the bottom of this. Yeah, I'm looking through their website, trying to figure it out, but I can't see what the rewards are. And while we were talking, I'm looking through their website trying to figure it out But I can't see what the rewards are

And I and while we were talking I just signed up for it. Oh cool. I'll make I'll make sure to put a link to that And the link dumps if we can do that also not today. Oh speaking of the link dump we um I Set up a separate little bit of you know technical jargon for people listening to the podcast There's a separate RSS feed for people who want just the MP3 version of the podcast, not the enhanced podcast, the M4A version. Because that breaks some. Yeah, some users don't, don't, can't play it. They think it's a video file for some reason.

So if you're living in the Stone Age and need an MP3 feed, you go now. You can't suck it up with MP3s. And if you go to Rischief.com slash podcast, there'll be a link there for the MP3 RSS feed. You know, you. You're going out. You're going out. You're going out. You're going out. You're going out. You're going out. You're going out.

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You're going out. You're going out. You're going out. You're going out. You're going out. Win-amp. Win-amp, I haven't thought of Win-amp forever. I wonder, I bet people still use Win-amp, right? There are people that are still probably, you can probably still get it. Did it, didn't Win-amp got bought or get bought by somebody? I think it was for AOL, right? Something like that. I'm pretty sure. If you are still using Win-amp and you listen to this podcast, I'd like you to send an email to Jacketachieve100.com and explain why. I'm curious, I'd like to know. And then Jack will forward it onto me. Of course. Everything will in't you I'll make sure to for it on so you can read him He's my secretary make sure you set up a rule for that. It's automated. Yeah. Yeah, where you guys on ICQ? Oh, yeah, of course Oh, yeah, I'm that being on CQ back in the day. It was like how low is your number? Yeah, it was like your e penis back then. Yeah, I got a six digit. I think you number

I think mine was seven. Yeah, mine was seven was not six But it was like and it was like one million is what mine was. But I remember we had a friend who had a five digit. I got we worked with. I don't know if I say friend, but we had a guy we worked with about a five digit I think you number and that was like, that was his claim to fame. Very sad claim to fame. That's like I see.

Do you know you can check how old your account is on aim? Like if you have an aim name. Oh really? I have an aim name that's over a decade old now. I change aim names every couple of years. Yeah, I have no idea. I remember my old ones. Yeah, I think my first aim name, like I didn't like that.

We were moving to aim away from my CQ. So my first issue, you mean, whatever you used was, I wish this was I CQ. Yeah. I haven't used that one in years, but that was the first aim name I ever, I ever, I have a more. We used to put those on drunk aimers so people could mess with just directly. Yeah, I haven't used that one in years, but that was the first name name I ever I ever I have we used to put those on drunk aimers so people could message it directly. Yeah, stupid. I think we used to have it briefly when we started a red versus blue on The page of redversiblue.com as well. You know, I read this crazy story the other day. It is totally off topic. Okay, good. I read this crazy story the other day about this This operation that took place during World War II,

that it was a brainchild of Ian Fleming, the author of the James Bond books. He came up with this idea where the British would take a dead body. They found a homeless guy who committed suicide and they took his dead body and they created an identity that he was like a spy. And like they fed the Germans, you know, all this false information about this guy being a spy

and carrying important paperwork. And then they faked a plane crash off the coast of Spain and through the dude's dead body out there to make it look like he died in the plane crash. And they put fake secret documents on him so that when his body was recovered, the Germans stole the fake secret documents and thought that the British were going to invade Greece so they moved all of their troops out of Italy over degrees expecting the attack and the British attacked Italy instead That's awesome dude

There were so many clever fucking people doing cool stuff cool things in World War 2 It was really an innovative war you remember the the documentary you and I both watched about the money forgers the German 24 yeah, like that's one of the most fascinating things i don't know if we ever talked about the podcast we may be have i think so but that's one of the most fascinating things i've ever seen in my entire life there is a dude this colonel in uh... the nazi army who came up with this brilliant fucking idea jack to get the worlds basically he went to concentration camps and found

people who who are Jewish people who were uh... the world's best for years well he could make them for years they were you know Basically he went to concentration camps and found people who Jewish people who were uh... The world's best foragers Well he made them foragers they were you know fucking letterhead, letter types and all that stuff and uh... he created a forging team and he forged something like ten billion dollars in British pounds

It was something like that It was a ridiculous amount and their goal was they were going to fly planes over England and just drop the money on the streets and instantly Devalue British currency and destroy the British economy and it would have worked tremendously well, but It came in the under some fire because he was super secretive and I think is Nazi Hyrups didn't like that and then they had to move around a lot because things were not going well at the war at that point. Not accidental management. And then they eventually had to abandon where they were because allied forces were coming in.

And so the money never got circulated, never made an encirculation. Well, a little bit of it did. They would give it to their operatives to buy weapons. Yeah, to test. So they would send operatives into Britain to try to spend it and see if they would work. And then they did a little bit. It was like maybe half a million dollars, I think one into maybe a million. But then the money disappeared and nobody could find it.

And I guess the dude, they discovered like 10 years later, they were dredging a lake somewhere in Germany and the dude had wrapped it all up and buried it at the, like dumped it in the bottom of the lake and he was going to come back for it someday and live rich in England, but they found it. And supposedly it was like the best forgeries of all time. Yeah, it was indistinguishable. I looked it up, I guess, by April of 1945, he had printed up over 133,4 million pounds worth of money, which adjusted for inflation from 1945 to 2010.

It's a lot. Yeah. And I mean, that would have been catastrophic to the British economy. It was, it would have been really interesting to how that affected things. But just I think that dude was kind of a douche and like was his own worst enemy. If I remember correctly from the documentary. Yes, something like that. And just refused like wasn't happy with the the state and just kept slow rolling it and slow rolling it.

That's what it was too. He didn't want to release the money because he would have to go back to battle. I remember that now. Oh, too. He didn't want to release the money because he would have to go back to battle. I remember that now Oh, right. Yeah, it won't like once the project was a success They would take the money that would dump it into England and he would have to go back to the front line He's gonna go to Russia. Yeah, and he didn't want to go to Russia because he knew he'd fucking die or freeze to death Right, so he kept telling it was gonna take longer and the forgery is going good enough And he kept he slowed himself out of the job

Essentially, it's a crazy story pretty interesting A lot of really in like I was saying a lot of really interesting stuff in World War II. Very creative. We just passed the 69th anniversary of Pearl Harbor yesterday. Sixty nine. Yes, 69. Today is the day that John London died. Oh, is it? Yep. 30 years ago. Yep. I guess so. And it's funny because the one I guess, no, no, who's the money knife football guy that is died though the quarterback Fran on Shula no no don't Meredith no dandy Don Meredith Yeah, he just passed away, but he wasn't there that money knife football game when they announced it right

Because that was like it was like a big deal that like really most the most of the US found out about it because Howard Cosell announced it on Monday night football during Miami versus Miami versus New England game. It was the Patriots. So I don't know if they were with New England at the time but that's New England move around. You guys don't know football do you? No football, okay.

Yeah, I know football. I don't think they've moved around. Okay. There's uh, Miami Patriots in the dolphins. Yeah. So, and uh, yeah. And that Cocelle announced it with about four, like, what four seconds left in the game. And it was like, it was a tie game going to a fuel goal to win it. Everyone was sitting there watching and it's like, what?

John Lennon got shot in his dead. I only know this because I watched on the ESPN last night. It sounded like a treasure trove of obscure information. So I'm looking at the clip right now of that game. TV looks way better now. Yeah it does. Looks awful. Looks like a scratch EVHS tape. Yeah even like the clock in the lower right is like obviously just a camera pointed at the clock in the stadium. It's not like a graphic or anything. There's no graphics at all on the screen. That was that was some guy's job too too He was still like it was the clock camera guy

It's like make sure the wind doesn't knock it out of the place. You guys sit there and hold it still for fucking four hours Hopefully they had a tripod. No, try pods weren't no tripod. Didn't you have it? Yes, steady cam They put on some dudes back and get to like sit there crawling they also didn't have chairs for that guy. You just stand there They're crawling. They also didn't have chairs for that guy. You'd have to stand there. They had a stick. Tupper times back then. Hey, I'm going to a button on this weekend. All right.

Oh, is that this weekend? Yeah, it's a 24 hour movie festival. I talked about it last year, I think. Yeah, you did. Yeah, well, they do it every year. So you're, they, you think that the short-tron? I think they will. I think if I'm Disney, and I know that that audience is going to go bonkers for this kind of movie, that's the audience I show to help build buzz.

Not that Tron needs more buzz, but I mean, you know, showing it to a geek audience is going to flip out. That's always a good thing. But the big rumor is now we're going to see probably Tron, probably get to see Sucker Punch, the new Zack Snyder movie, the guy did 300, probably get to see True Rit. You're probably also going to see Megan McCain, right? Yeah, she'll be there. I would assume you'll see True Rit, yeah. Yeah. And so I read a very unfavorable review of Tron the other day. Oh, yeah. Was it done by Drew McQueenie at Hitfix? No. See, he wrote it. He wrote Drew McQueenie at Hit Fix? No. It was easy. He wrote it.

He wrote it pretty. I think it was on Catacoo, actually. It was somewhere weird. I didn't expect to see a Tron review. I thought I was reading the video game review. And then I realized how fit it was for the movie. And it was not that positive. I've heard some good reviews for TruGrito.

Yeah. Come on, TruGrito. It's going to be awesome. That looks fantastic. It's a great trailer. But yeah, I mean, it'd be cool to get like a double feature of, you know, Jeff Bridges from Tron and then true grit. Yeah. And, um, but yeah, supposedly it's gonna be like six finished movies and six premieres or something like that. Any torture movies

this year? Absolutely. Like, I mean, they like, no one knows the actual lineup of the movies except for Harry Nobles and Tim League and Tim's the owner of the Alamo and Harry runs ain't it cool news.com. It's it's Harry's birthday That's why they throw this event and they also raise money for the kids film series So speaking of which I need to buy my tickets. I haven't done that yet You know you're saying that the true grit that true grit had a good trailer reminded me that next week We have to do our nominations for the Drunk Tank Awards. Oh yeah. And we'll talk about those I guess next week and then two weeks after that we'll announce our picks.

I was number 29th. I hear the industry is a buzz waiting with baited breath for our for your consideration list for our for our list. I I've been going back in consuming media and stuff just to make sure, because last year, a lot of us hadn't seen a lot of the movies that were being audited and TV shows by source, and so I've been catching up and I watched a movie earlier this week that is now my movie of the year. I'm not going to say what it is, but I can't believe I missed it. I know what you're talking about and I agree with you. Hands down movie of the year. Okay, we'll talk about it next week.

I don't know if I'll be here next week, but I definitely want to throw out red dead as game of the year. Like that would be my nominee. Pfft. All right, let's say about that. I know a lot of people would agree with you, but I am not one of those people.

All right. I'm gonna, I gotta think, I don't want to get into it, but I gotta think Mass Effect 2 has a pretty good shot. A lot of people I don't do. I could see that original world brand new character like characters that I I really really enjoyed original world the old West Yeah, how did they ever come up with it? Well, you say like Mass Effect 2. It's like a train. It's also a fucking sequel So well, but it's not reliant on the original game Okay But it's not reliant on the original game Okay Fight fight

Griffin's not here so I got to fight it doesn't seem any more original than Mass Effect 2 being built on a original world Mass Effect 1 yeah, I totally agree with you. I think you're off base saying that red dead redemption as an original world I'm willing to bet you're gonna find more people that never knew that red dead redemption is a sequel Then you will that the regardless of that it's still fucking based on the old west. It's still based on a million But who's based on space? I mean that's what I don't say a real space. Space travel hasn't happened yet We wrote around horses we wrote around on those cranes like that stuff that happened already Plus you're saying just because nobody's played the first game because it wasn't any good that that somehow makes the second game more valid in a Rigid, you're arguing that the world is a sequel and I'm saying it's not it's technically a sequel, but I would I would say it's not at all

It takes place in the exact same world and you can buy a downloadable you can buy DLC to import all the old characters into your multiplayer Of that game if features characters from the first game then it's it's a sequel. I'm sorry. No, no, you know what there's a paid DLC You can get that it brings in characters. How about this? How about this? I didn't play Mass Effect 1 and I played Mass Effect 2 And I felt like a new self-contained game, but you there was still like I missed anything There was still clearly a game. It's called Mass Effect 2. There's a big number two behind red dead Red dead with red dead with dense cold gravity effect. Then it would have been okay. Yeah, that would have been absolutely fine Wait, wait effect wait effect. Massive effect. Mass Effector.

Mass Effector. Oh, man. You guys are fine. I missed having you here, Jack. I really did. Yeah, clearly. Hey, so on the topic of space travel, have you heard about this? Oh, we've talked a little bit often on about this secret Air Force space plane.

Oh, do you think it's amazing? I'm so excited about it. We're about to get four or more, right? Or three more? Yeah, we'll not exactly the same, but other other variants of it. I guess it's like a plane that the Air Force flies into space and does secret stuff and then it sits up there for seven months and then it comes back. Does secret stuff, by secret stuff, you mean it can intercept any satellite in the world and access that satellite without being detected. Right. Take that rest of the fucking world. That's why America's King. We got your satellites. We know everything about you. We've seen the pictures. We know all your secrets.

And pretty soon Julian Assange is going to get those secrets and show them to you. So look for one wiki leaks two unless he takes his suicide pill. Did you read that on CNN? On this one, like Julian Assange threatened suicide pill. I don't want to get into that. It's silly. Yeah, it's really cool. It looks like a space shuttle that flies on its own, which is kind of scary.

Yeah, it does. And it does fly on its own. And makes me happy there's stuff like that. And it can be still exists in the world. It can be over any point in the world. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm gonna tell me this. It can fly to any point in the world in an hour. Right. That's fucking crazy. So if we had four of those puppies, we could be anywhere in the world in 20 minutes. 15 15. Think about that. Oh, conceibly. There was another thing. I don't have a link here. I forgot a book market, but they're for some working on some other Plane that would fly. No, it was the other plane. I think that what would be at any point in an hour wouldn't it? The

That was a bomber right? Yeah, yeah, it's kind of weapons. Yeah, delivery platform Didn't get a lot. I don't have it here. They had a test flight that didn't work out and crashed But it was crazy like looking at the you know like I said, the test flight didn't work, and I don't have the image of enemy, but the test flight was supposed to go from like L.A. to Hawaii in like 15 minutes or 20 minutes, I think. That's crazy. Yeah, and that was also another autonomous thing. I think the computer onboard detected that it was losing stability, so it crashed itself into the ocean. Fucking sky net.

Yeah, I know shit. So who's remote controlling that? Is there like a dude at NASA with one of those like handheld remote controls? Yeah, for a car with an antenna that just goes to space. Yeah, big floppy thing. Did you see the RC plane that flew around New York City? No, yeah, someone like got one of those giant RC planes and attached a camera to it and then like first person, you know Point of view flew the plane through New York City like around Empire state building and like the Brooklyn bridge and everything pretty crazy that you would be able to do something like that But apparently they picked a time where they knew there'd be the least amount of flight traffic and they were able to do it. They didn't get in trouble, which is surprising. Hey Gus, was it you or Bernie

yesterday that was talking about the new TSA thing at Walmart? That was Bernie. I'm looking at Vito. He was talking about it's cool. I wish he was here to tell that story. New TSA thing at Walmart. I guess like, well, it's like the Homeland, it's actually Homeland Security. It's a good thing. They're going to start and this is a store I heard from Burnham, haven't verified it myself. They're going to start putting up monitors at Walmart, so around the country. In check out lines, at the checkout lines, reminding you to report suspicious activity and suspicious people. That sounds like an Alex Jones thing. Like that. That sounds a bit to out there. Have

you guys flown lately and had to deal with TSA? No. Like since the enhanced procedures came down. But they announced yesterday that Austin is getting the, next year, the scanner that they already have it. They just have to install it and that our floor won't fall through. No, it's, I just verified Bernie Starr. It's true. It's, I'm reading here on CNN. It's a program they called, if you see something, say something. So like loose-lipsing ships essentially. Yeah, they're gonna more like McCarthyism. They're gonna, I guess they just started this past Monday at 320 Walmart stores. Is your neighbor a communist? How the, when did the when did this fucking USA change and become so goddamn paranoid about the rest of the world? Eventually it's gonna expand to 588 stores eight stores in twenty seven states like remember when

we got attacked on our our home soil like that was you know how that was nine years ago at this point do you think the space plane is listening to this conversation right now we in trouble like I mean like at what point did we suddenly all of a sudden like oh shit now we're fucked like when did that happen like it's really starting to kind of piss me off about all this you know John Tider predicted this I'd like to point that out. We've talked about John Tider before.

He did predict the gradual erosion of civil liberties in freedom. But I mean, what happened in the last year that now all of a sudden is like, oh, now we're fucked. Like, before, like, hey Jack, freedom isn't free. If you don't put, if you don't rat out your neighbor because he may or may not have bought like, I don't know, fucking that plant manure and vodka. Yeah, then you were letting the terrorists win manure and vodka. That sounds like an awesome weekend. Vanuir vodka. That's the name I knew band. Yeah, I'm going to try to make a weekend. Speaking of manure and vodka. You and I had a conversation years ago, Gus, about what, how the temperature required to freeze vodka. And we came up with a retarded figure.

I trusted your math because I don't have math. And you weren't born with that skill. I accidentally set my freezer to too low. I said it to negative eight degrees and I froze vodka. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy. I did. And I determined that if you put it at negative two you get a vodka slushy

I'm looking actually at answers calm and someone's asking that and they say that 80 proof vodka, which is typical vodka Will freeze at approximately negative 16 degrees Fahrenheit or negative 29 for Celsius for our European listeners? There you go. So if I'm at negative eight, I'm getting pretty close pretty damn close almost solid 100 proof vodka will freeze at Negative 40 Fahrenheit, which is also oddly negative 40 Celsius. That's creepy So I think when we talked about it years ago we assumed there was more Alcohol in vodka than there really was we did yeah, that's why we came with some ridiculous number But if you if you wanted to make a tasty vodka slushy, negative two, perfect.

Just, that's why I public service now. Do you get one of those like slurpee straws and then has like the the bow to end on it? Yeah, of course. Okay. What am I, some asshole? Now you have a slurpee straw? I gotta go to your house this week

and try some of that stuff. Let's do it. Did you ever, when you were a kid, did you ever freeze soda and make like ice cubes out of soda? Uh huh. And then put those ice cubes into that soda and drink it. Yeah, kids do stupid stuff all the time. So awesome.

Yeah, it's so awesome. It's gonna be the juices and anything I could and fucking mixing up all the different sodas at the soda fountain. Oh, yeah. Missed. Soos. Awful. Awful.

When you're a kid, you don't know what tastes good and what tastes bad, man. Dude, we gotta talk about what happened to us at fucking Double daves last week was that that's the girls at this week It was last week Gus and Griffin and I went to the lunch buffet at double days. I don't even know how it's a pizza place It's a local pizza place. I don't know how to adequately describe what we experienced But there was a man and a woman in front of us in line, and they were I'm'm going to guess late 20s early 30s. Yeah, it's a good, right? Approximately our age. They seemed fairly, I mean, they had all their clothes on.

They were wearing shoes. They seemed to be using English appropriately. I had no initial idea that they were going to turn out to be the two most retarded people on the planet. Until I realized we were standing in line for a long time. It's like, double-dives. All you do is you go up and you say buffet. Here's seven bucks. Here's your drink. You have to say that. They start running the soup.

They bring you up for a buffet. It's going to be a buffet because that's what you do at lunch. Yeah. And they, I'm realizing we're standing in line for a while and I'm like, why would it take so long to get the buffet? And then so I start listening to them in the conversation. And the lady's like, we heard about this thing. It's called a stromboli.

Is that something that you guys sell? And the lady's like, yeah, we have some stromboli's and she's like, what is that? And she's trying to explain it to her and she's like, I just don't understand. And the guy's like, yeah, is it like a cow's zone? And what's a cow's zone? And the lady's like, well, it's a little different from a cow's zone. And she's going through this explanation. And the people are just like, I just don't get it. I don't know. Tell me, stop me if I'm telling this. No, no, that's totally dead-on.

And they're like, yeah, it's just like, is it good? And the lady's like, well and they're like yeah It's just like is it good and ladies like well? They're good if you get the buffet you can get the pizza and then if you want to try a strong bully or a calzone or whatever Feel free and then like can we see it and ladies like I guess so she walks them over to the buffet and there's like pointing out It's a combo and there's a calzone and like there's this whole conversation and They're over there for like five minutes. I can't hear what's going on over there I can just see the pointing and the people just look fucking befuddled like their entire world got turned upside down because somebody mentioned the word Stromboli to them and then eventually they pay and I'm like, oh, thank God and then we get behind them in the buffet line Where it takes them like 20 minutes to decide if they want a Stromboli or a calzone and then if so what flavor and how much and it's like

It's like apparently a life-changing decision for these two people, they're lunch. Alright, true or false, the buffet line is the only line it's okay to cut in. Yeah, I'm okay with that. Yeah, okay, totally true. So then, I'm like, they walk away and I'm like, thank fuck and Christ, we get our pizza

and we walk over to the soda machine. And they have this newfangled soda machine. I picked up the brochure. That's a typical the, the, the, the cool of freestyle. There's a gold shirt. Whoa, what the hell is that? It's really cool. It's like a, it's like a touch screen soda machine. It's a, it's a touch screen.

Uh-huh. You choose your soda, but it's only single serving though. Like there's only one person at a time. Yeah. Yeah. 106 drink choices. And so you just go, you were like, I want phanta. No, I want raspberry phanta.

And you just drill down. I was like, menus. It couldn't be simpler. You hit up my five You'll could do it wow and They stopped at that soda machine and that was like I saw jaws hit the ground They look scared is like I think they left they did I will here's we watched them for about 20 minutes Try to figure out what so did to get what we're standing there and then like scratching their heads and they're like what is this?

I don't understand what I put the cup What if I just want coke? It's like hit the coke button. They're really confused. And then I turn around and I'm talking to Gus and Griffin and I'm making fun of them about how retarded they are, but not within the air shot. They couldn't hear me. And when we turned back around, they just had their empty glasses and they were just walking

out the front door. Yeah. I never saw their food again. I never saw them again. I never saw them eat. They just like set their food down somewhere and walked out of the, like in a days with their food again. I never saw them again. I never saw them eat They just like set their food down somewhere and walked out of the like in a days with their empty glasses like the Defeated devastating combination of strong Holy and soda and the freestyle destroy they went back to stay head to leave and go to therapy

What are the odds that these maybe were aliens that had landed on earth and never actually seen any aliens would have picked up on this Faster they would they if you're out there and if you're listening right now I want you to know you're the two dumbest mother fuckers on the planet and you should never Ever leave your house again or have children or have children although I will say oh, they'll probably they probably already have children I will say it's gotta be I was thinking about this later in the day It's gotta be awesome to be that stupid because every time you leave your house It's a whole new world of the adventure and possibility and everything is exciting it's fantastic it's like a soda machine this is gonna occupy me for the next six hours this is fantastic and I'm fucking retarded so I'm gonna forget about it tonight and then tomorrow

it's gonna be a whole new adventure again I'm sure Jack knows all about that oh my god wait what hey we just we just got it we just picked up a fourth hey what's up what's up everybody welcome mr. Bernie Burns I had a friend in college who had a hamster and he said, it was like that, I said, how can you keep this poor animal in this like three by three foot cube of glass? He's like, he loves it man, he has no memory. He runs on the wheel for a little while, he goes, oh, what's this?

Oh, fucking castle. What's that amazing? That he gets over the castle, he's like, check out that wheel. Dude, we met the human equivalence to that in the lunch buffet the other day. Oh, sorry. sorry terrible. Oh my God. Reddit had a really funny post the other day where I read it. Reddit has like three different modes. It's go crazy about whatever the hot topic of the week is whether it's the cold bear thing, the

TSA thing, you know, and then it's like talking about how lonely everybody is. And then the other one is just complain about the minutia of life. Yeah. And one of them is, they did the other day is that the pie chart of the people at the ATM. And it's like people who want $20 in cash. And it's like, this is a little tiny sliver. And it's like people who want to rearrange their 401k and all the other higher than the laters.

And it's like, those are the people in front of me at the ATM. I ran into someone like that once when we were downtown at an ATM near the office, where he must have done like 15 transactions because he would do stuff then a receipt would come out then he'd go again another receipt like I was like what the how the fuck did I end up behind this guy what the hell is he doing? Do you deposit at the ATM? Yeah, of course. There he is there's always one guy who's afraid to deposit at the ATM. I now do depositing the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at the at cool like you can there's eight the ATMs literally I did deposit checks on the ATMs that the Bank of America is literally

It's just like slide your check in and a little scan it read it to show you who gave it to you how much it's worth and like Chase chase does that to just fuck Bank of America Just gonna discuss you not go there. No Bank of America sucks ass. I I got the I dropped make America because I I started I set up my my iTunes account with Bank of America and I bought one song 99 cents. I was charged a $1 fee for not swiping my card. And I was like, yep, I'm done. Fuck you. I am done. I get one strike you are out on that case. With authority. No, no, that's bullshit.

That is all you get sir. I Like Bank of America. I think they're fucking awesome. I don't know what Gus is talking about. I like a bunch of dickheads It's the bank of America. Gus is the best bank in America I gotta say my mortgage and my set then a credit card are all tied through Bank of America and their online portals awesome Like I go to I just log log in and every piece of business I have with them is right there. If you have a safety deposit box, Bank of America, the one by my house, at least,

you like use your hand print to get in. It's stupid. You really? Come on, that's great. Do you really get to use your hand print? Yeah, it's like a key. Is it like total recallery if you put your two fingers together and you start up the reactor?

It does, yeah, it's got three fingers. You just jam your hand on there and it works. It has pegs and you have to line your hand up with the pegs. And then like all these lights, there's a picture of a human hand up in the little white outline. That's pretty cool. Like a little kid drawn a turkey. And then it lights up in different parts

as it recognizes the different parts. Or it just lights up to make you feel like it's doing that. Like the colors hitting the button under the colors. Like yep, that's Bernie, let him in. Probably. Are you cool, that stuff, though? Like when they try to use the track who you are. Well, I mean, if anytime you ever go to safety deposits box,

anyway, they track you. I mean, I'm kind of okay with the safety deposits box, them tracking who you are. Having forbid, though, with something like that, like there's a power outage and you can't get into your safety deposit box. Or they, you know, they're fucking database with your handprint gets deleted. Like, here's something, I don't know, what was the last time you guys went to Disney World?

A couple months ago? Disney World Gus. Disney World. Did you, okay, when you went through, did you have to do your fingerprints? No, no, maybe, okay, maybe it's just universal. What? When I went to Universal Studios a few months ago, when you scan your ticket through, you have to put your finger down and they scan your fingerprint and

That would there is they do it because it has something to do with them reselling tickets It's like they don't want you selling your ticket fuck on one security Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but it's pretty weird like they do stuff like I think it will like the season pass at Disney World They they make you you fingerprint as well, but yeah, it's pretty pretty trippy. I have to go get a People are cool with that stuff. I've document notarized the other day because I was filling out an entrance form to get money back for you know My break in and at the bank the notary lady made me do both thumbs on the fingerprints of both thumbs just to get her to fucking notarize A document saying my shit got stolen It's a little extreme.

Jack's over here talking about tracking stuff. Uh-huh. And do you want to be tracking all that? And I was just about to get on my iPhone here by Apple. Wonderful product, not a sponsor. Um, and I was going to see I was going to look up this thing about Walmart. We just talked about it.

Yeah. Okay. I figured you might guys might have talked about it. But I went to go look that up to make sure it's not some kind of weird like urban legend or we're not misunderstanding it Which I'm sure we are and I saw my search history on Google And it really makes me wonder what's wrong with me. You want me to read you just to say? Please go for it. I just fucked up. I think I just lost it. Okay, so I have mega 64 Sean Derek Rocco Mm-hmm. I looked at up Sean's name spelled wrong. I was trying to figure out how to spell his particular variant of Sean.

Fish truck. I don't know why I looked at up. Then I looked up computer sings Daisy, which was the remember 2001 when yeah, how dies. That's actually based on the first time a computer ever spoke. It's sang the song Daisy. No, I didn't have it recording of it on YouTube. Yeah, it's a universe. What wine goes with pork ribs? University of Illinois what wine goes with pork ribs How many shells will a Mossberg persuader hold what gauge is a Mossberg persuader? What is a Mossberg persuader? That is my shotgun that I have it depends on how it's plugged right exactly I think it holds ten shells. Yeah, it probably holds ten but legally you probably can't put more than six in it Same as my wife what a great

That was great. What a great name for a shotgun brother. A super sweet. Yeah. If ten shotgun shells can't persuade you nothing well. And then what does Superman eat? That's nothing I wanted to know from Google. So Gus, what does Superman eat? Stakes, whatever you want. Stakes and apple pie, man. It's fucking America.

We got a big debate in my wife and I. Whether or not Superman eats anything at all. I don't think he needs to. I've got to. He's's solar he eats sun. Yeah, yeah, he eats the sun's race Okay delicious sun rays Well fuck crypt on man, but yeah, you're a Gus looked it up and you're a tea your home and security story is on scene Yeah, I read it. I verified it and see you know, well then it's gotta be true. It's true I was just saying it sounds like an Alex Jones thing Alex Jones is is one of those crazy conspiracy theory guys who's based here in Austin and now is now world known, which is all scaring its own right.

But it's a George Oral thing. That to me is like off the charts crazy. Pretty big. So eventually they're gonna put it in 588 stores is what we read. It's already live. They're already doing it. How do you feel about the body scanner is burning? We mentioned they're coming to Austin next year.

So at the airport. I just say I think they're terrible. I think that's, you know, I think that's the real cost of terrorism is that it's just like the, the weight eats away at your life every day. You know what I mean? You know what's really terrible? You know, I said you guys that story yesterday saying that the scanners were coming. Right. The worst part about that story to me is that they did an independent study to determine if the floor could support the weight that cost

$250,000 Because a quarter of a million dollars to decide yeah, this I beam can hold a fucking scanner, right? Mother fuckers. You know what that is. That's the architectural engineer who worked just pulled the plans and was like hold please Look at the ceiling for a little bit. Plates of Minecraft and come back. Go, yeah, I'll do it. He's like, let me rebuild the airport. I'm not sure he did need to. This is the plan.

I mean, I'm not an architectural engineer. I have a pretty good feeling and know how much weight the floor can. Yeah, well, when we bought this building that we moved into, I had to meet a structural engineer out here because we had to determine whether or how much weight we could put on the second floor. The guy lifted some of the ceiling tiles out here, looked around, popped his head around, looked at the bottom part of the floor, wrote something down, it was like, yeah, you can do it. I was like, okay then. Just please, Scott will be $200 million.

That would be a quarter million dollars, thank you. I'm going to tell you this, read you this story that I was trying to tell you guys it once today, but I started to wait. Okay. Which is now a new phenomenon since the podcast is now we defer conversations. this, read you the story that I was trying to tell you guys at lunch today, but I started to wait. Okay. Which is now a new phenomenon since the podcast is now we defer conversations. It's true. It's killed our social media and typically you forget it too. That's the worst part.

I'm bookmarks. All right. This is from London Times. Outside the Bristol Zoo in England. Oh, yeah. There's a parking lot for 150 cars and eight buses or coaches, as they're called in England. Now, it was man by it was man by very pleasant attendant with a ticket machine charging cars one pound,

about $1.40 in coaches, were charged five pounds, about $7. This nice gentleman was known by everyone and he worked there for a solid 25 years every single day. Then one day, quite suddenly, this guy just doesn't show up for work. He's not there. So the Bristol Zoo calls the city and says,

hey, this machine, the ticket machine has been cleared out, people can't get tickets or whatever, it's filled up. And we can't find the guy that works here, can you send out another attendant to work it? The city says, Zoo, the parking lot is your responsibility, it's not our responsibility. They said, we don't want responsibility for the parking lot, we just want you to send another attendant out and they said It's your responsibility parking lot is your responsibility and it will you have a city employee that's worked here for 25 years and the city says We have no record of this gentleman So apparently the guy one day came

Set up a machine and was collecting it every single day all the money from the parking lot of the zoo for 25 years That's awesome. They estimated he made 3.6 million pounds, $7 million over 25 years. That's so awesome. No one knows his name or where he is now. What's that salary? What does that salary? What I wondered about that story was,

when the parking lot needed repairs, like who would he call? Would he go to the zoo and be like, oh, time to repaint the parking lot? If he's a smart dude, is what he did. Or the parking lot or if he's a smart dude is what he did Or a pocket if he's a smart dude he fucking does it himself. He's like just doesn't say shit $7 million over 25 years is $280,000 a year

We're coming in clear now to the parking lot machine That's awesome now so much probably gonna write and tell us that's an urban legend. I don't give a shit The story is still you're never gonna meet the guy who's got $7 million, you know, but it's an interesting story that somebody could theoretically do. Yeah. You come set up a ticket machine, everyone assumes it's okay and people just start paying it. He steals a dollar a day from 150 random people. Who's gonna go after him for that? Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I'm looking it up on... on snopes. If the asshole had anybody toad or ticket it, then that's a little different. Oh, the story. Like, if you ever got toad from the Bristol

zoo, any point in the last 25 years, you'd be like, that motherfucker. That's the guy who's gonna find the guy in the beach and like, the Caribbean and kill him. That is fucking awesome. Have you heard of anything like that before? Like, anybody get in a way with like some major crime? I've read about cons like that, but nothing that long. Like, I've read about people who would like basically say an A-team was broken and then have someone in a security guard outfit sitting next to it like with a bag, you know, essentially saying, you know, if you want to make it a positive, you can make it a positive with me

and then they'd have a number in the back here, you know, you can call this number and then someone would be on the other me like no no he's he's legit he's with us or lead answer you know bank of whatever and he would sit there and collect deposits what you'll be a dumb mother fucker to fall for that you have to do that then you have to get some that's a Nigerian level stupidity well that's like the only thing I've heard anything of that nature later that day you'd be like I'd like to buy the stromboli but I just made a deposit yeah I'd like to get the stromboly, but I just made a deposit.

I had a guy next to an ATM. Was that stromboly? Was that what this dude was doing? It was fucking stromboly in Calzone. Apparently the parking lots are religion. Yeah. I just told you not to tell me that. I know it clearly is an urban legend, you know?

Then why would you not want me to tell you? I don't want to know. I don't want to ruin it. But you do. Who gives a shit? Is our parking lot attendant know about this Yeah, I'm gonna go ask Alex Man like he's nice though. You know in America guys. I've say let's say theoretically now Now I can't even talk about it because it's fake, but let's go ahead and talk about anyway in America if the guy had done it

Could he do it for a long enough period of time or he would claim that he actually owns a parking lot. Like Squatters rights or something? Yeah. No. I guess the city could just emit a domain back from it if they got that right? Yeah. But then have the right for fair market value. No, I don't think you could. I think you'd have to live there.

Maybe if you set up a shack at the parking lot and lived there as well. I don't think you can claim residence over public property in the city. Not in the public though. What's that? What if it wasn't public? Oh, if it's private? Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter because Gus figured out it's fake.

It took everything else on the internet. The dream killer. Fake. That's me. So Bernie, are you kicking around the idea of jumping back in a while? A little bit, but I just was playing a lot of borderlands. So I'm not really feeling the need to go back and play a while because I mean borderlands is closer and you get to an MMO on a console, except for the MMO's on consoles already.

What's an MMO on a console? Final Fantasy? Nobody who plays that? Nobody. Really? I don't think. And also, I'm going to get two angry emails. I've gotten into 3D gaming. Oh yeah, that's not working out for you. Yeah, I got a 3D TV, so I gave it a shot. What did you put? Did you play? Let me say this, and this will make everybody who owns a PS3 and has listened to this podcast and we talk about a PS3 before. This should make them happier, I guess. That 3D gaming on the PS3 is way better than it is on the Xbox. Oh yeah. And way better. The only Xbox 3D game I know of is Black Ops. Yeah, that is the one that I have played.

Okay. But even though the, even beyond that though, I mean, assuming other titles, the PS3, when I plug it into my 3D TV, knew that it was a 3D TV. Nice. And walked me through some stuff about 3D gaming. Was it a Sony TV?

No, Samsung. Hmm. Cool. And when I went to go play Call of Duty Black Ops, and I set it to 3D mode, I then had to go make a change to my TV so that I could play 3D Black Ops. Apparently, there's some side by side mode, where it literally,

it looked like I was playing split screen, but single player, until I made the change to my TV that recognized that these are two different feeds and to overlay them in a way. Oh, right. Oh, cool. So. So and it was even when I did that, it was still pretty damn swimming. You know, so it was the Call of Duty experience was one thing, but the fact that when I plugged it into my PS3, my PS3 new was an HETT. That's pretty cool. How, how do you like 3D gaming in general? Well, the game that I played that I really liked the most was wipe out HD on PS3's Erasing Game. I think I actually found something that makes me interested in racing games.

Yeah, is 3D? I saw a tech demo. I think it was at PAX East of that, uh, the game just caused two. Yeah. 3D, I played a little bit of that. That was awesome. Oh, I remember that. Yeah, that looks really cool. I played it too. Yeah, it was PAX East. Yeah. But I will say this, I had never purchased wipeout before because it's a fucking racing game and I hate them. But when I downloaded it and bought it,

it was one of those PSN games. So I purchased it, downloaded it, three updates. Nice. At the moment I bought it, I had to update it three times. I'm gonna jump on this bandwagon. The other day, my wife and I were getting a new disagreement over which game had the best graphics. And I was gonna put in Heavy Rain as an example on the PS3.

And I put it in, and of course, I hadn't played it for a while, so there were a ton of updates. I updated, went through all that. It was like, it was over a gig of updates, by the way. And installs. Yeah, and installs. I went through all that, and I launched the game, and I loaded my save game, like I couldn't play the game

like there were like heavy rain you've never played like you have to hit certain butt combinations that you see on screen there were weird combinations I'd never seen and I figured out there was a move controller on the screen I was like well I don't have move why does it want me to use it so like I tried to quit the game I couldn't quit the game without move really yeah I had to power my PlayStation 3 off relaunch the game and before I loaded my game I had to power my PlayStation 3 off, relaunch the game. And before I loaded my game, I had to go into the settings until I don't have move. Wow. Oh my god. It's on by default. It's on by default. Even if you don't have the hardware, I was like, what the fuck is this?

That's bizarre. That's terrible. That's really bizarre. No, I didn't have to play PlayStation off. I hit like the PlayStation button. I had to go to quit game, went back to the dashboard and then relaunch the game. Just imagine if you're the kind of person that gets confused by Stromboli, you would throw your PS3 in the trash. That would be an insurmountable. You'd be like, it's broken. Nice, you still have a VHS player if you're confused by stromboli.

I always say that when you go anywhere now like in a suburban neighborhood, we laugh about the fact of how many unsecured networks are out there. The fact that people can set up a wireless network at all is amazing to me. Every time I go to set up a wireless network, I block out like two hours, three hours. Yeah.

Maybe I'm doing too much to get it exactly right. But at the same point, it's like, how does the average person set up a wireless network? How does the average person go and buy a Cisco router, go home and set that thing up? I see that. Best why all the time now, they have like that, like that home, Cisco networking wireless stuff. Like, who the fuck is using this? Who the fuck is buying that? I can say it makes sense like that ISP sell like their networking wireless stuff. Like, who the fuck is using this? Who the fuck is buying that? I can say makes sense like that ISP sell

like their home wireless service where customers don't have to worry about it. It's like you pay your ISP, they'll set up your cable and they'll set up some Wi-Fi access point that you're renting from them and you don't ever touch it. You let them do it. They'll also install your, what was it?

They'll install your Xbox for a hundred and fifty dollars? Was that the big scam the half for you squad? Yeah, that's best buy you know, I'm getting sick of it. That's why it's a great great vendor of DVD Yeah, no, they are squad, but I'm getting tired of the employee trying to push the five dollar insurance for every game I buy yeah, yeah last for a year like I'm not gonna be playing this game in two weeks little I got really fed up with customer service on the phone the other day and hung up on someone. Like I was trying to log in to manage my XM radio account and I couldn't remember my username, couldn't remember my password, find the figure it all out and it was like you have a you know

you've been locked out, you've tried to log in unsuccessfully too many times. Please call this phone number. They're like fine. I pick up the phone, call the phone number and they're like you know what's your phone number and I tell them like I can't find your files, they fine, pick up the phone, call the phone number, and they're like, what's your phone number? And I tell them, I can't find your files, they'll use my account number, they look it up, like we can't find it. This is a series for XM account. It's like this is an XM account,

oh, well this is the number for series, you need to call XM. It's like, well this is the number that was on the website. They're like, oh, okay, we'll call XM, okay fine. Same company now, by the way. Yeah, same company, I call XM, and they find my account, and the woman's treating it like password error And I'm like no, I know my username. I know my password. I'm locked out so I'm locked out

She's like well, this is your user name and spells it out. This is your password. I go through all that like okay It's not working. I'm locked out. It's like okay. Well, let me transfer to technical support We'll be on the phone five minutes at this point I'm like okay fine. She's like but first let me congratulate you sir You have been pre-selected and I would And I grabbed the phone and I smashed it on my desk and then I hung it up. I was like, what the fuck? She started trying to sell me something.

For support? Yeah. God. That seems like a, we worked in support for a while. And there was always somebody who had the bright idea of, let's try to sell something to customers, some while they're on hold. With while they're irate.

When they're experiencing something that's not working. While they hate the product, essentially. It was always unbelievable to me that the people thought you could have a sales opportunity during support moments I eventually figured out that they had just cookie my browser so I couldn't log in from Safari so I just launched Firefox and logged in there just fine my account wasn't locked oh yeah that's interesting way to lock something yeah it's weird stupid way you read about that glitch where they released a list of sites that were exploiting something in JavaScript that allowed them to see other sites that you had been to. Yeah.

And since then, where they could go back and look at your browser history and they were capturing all that data. And I was actually pretty surprised by some of the sites that were caught doing that. Like some hardware review sites and things like that. Really? Yeah. The ones with the technology, they want to figure that stuff out. I guess so. Yeah, that seems like yeah That seems like it would be a bigger backlash. Yeah people doing that or what it's gonna ruin They're gonna they're gonna end up forcing government regulation on the internet because people are doing stupid shit like that

Wasn't the government already taking websites? Are they're taking domain names? Yeah That's a whole other It seems like something would cause a real amount of backlash. Like where it's not just people complaining about stuff. A butterfly just flew out of it. We know it. Everybody in the office. Stop and look at that butterfly. It's huge. It did look big. Ever you all got so wistful there first. I could be outside like that butterfly. Enjoying the day. Should I play wow. Should I give up borderlands and play wow? Yes. Yeah. Play just...

I don't know. I can play the new starting areas. Do you like a goblin? Do a goblin starting area. It's a really interesting experience. I don't want to go all the way through it because we... I know you actually did. First half of the podcast was... I'm sure. Alright, I'll play. But the cool thing about it is, and I'll say this, I was not looking forward to going through a starting area because of the grind

of the same kind of quest over and over again That we're gonna hit the pig hit the pig that kind of stuff I haven't I feel like I haven't done the same type of quest twice in the first eight levels of the game Okay, it's very varied very different and it's very cool. It's not all combat oriented It's not combed oriented quirky weird stuff combat oriented stuff Maybe 20% of it. Yeah, and you just blow through it like you blow through environments so fast you don't feel like you're grinding out on the same beach for ever it's a lot of fun it's really cool I've seen the goblin mounts yet yeah yeah the pretty and that's another thing they let you get on a mount almost immediately in the goblin for the first five levels you have

amount yeah like your third quest is you get a mount and then you like have it for most of the starting time I'm at the the mounts mounts are like a like a trike. It's a three-old motorcycle. Oh, okay. And then it's pretty cool. And they're flying mounts a helicopter. Do you know, do you know what made me stop playing while the first time?

What's that? Okay, so I understood that it was a MMO game. And I hate downtime in games like I hate like minutia stuff. And so I specifically chose a druid because I knew that it got a cat form at level 20 and everyone else got mounted 40 right that time I think. So I thought okay, great. So I'll be faster than everybody else to be able to walk across the lane and get stuff done faster. So either specifically why I chose a druid. Then I get the cat form and you don't go any faster as a cat really? Yeah, you go no 20% faster 40%

It's not as bad back then. I don't think you went any faster No, you go a little faster. It's just not as fast as a mouth. I think he's right I think back then they might not have gone faster. I remember when you got that that I was actually talking about the time we were in College station and I watched you play wow on the laptop in the hotel room and You were showing me the cat form and that's what made me want to play the game really. Yeah, well, that's how I got it That's why I stopped playing. I was so angry about that Because to me it's like you have two legs you go to four legs. You're faster. That's just science more leg even faster That's all I'm saying

I can't see the history, but I see that it is 40% now and I that's what I remember it being I don't it didn't see many faster but when I got it I think I looked it up and it's like yeah, the cat's not too fast. You get a mountain now at like 20 20. Yeah, too. It's crazy There's there's one thing though in playing borderlands Which is a great game has a ton of character and it's really awesome There's one thing in that game that's gonna make me stop playing that game and that is the clap trap No, no, no, no, you don't think you don't find the clap trap funny. No, really? After playing it over and over.

Check it out. I'm dancing. If you leave a title screen, he'll get to you after a while. I kind of like that's the one thing I remember about that game was the clap trap was kind of clever. Right. And the problem is though in the interface, do you guys remember how you pick up a weapon or pick up anything on the ground? You hold down. No, you hit X. Okay. Then you want to pick up multiple things. on the ground. You hold down. No, you hit X. Okay, then if you want to pick up multiple things Oh, right. You hold X then if you want to pick up a gun Like say there's a weapon on the ground jack and you want it to replace the gun that you're currently holding which how often in a MMO game

Do you really replace your weapon set? It's not every time you pick something up you hold X So it's the same button to do everything. So when you're picking up a bunch of crap, you always end up changing some shitty gun. You just picked up off the ground. Yeah, and then you got to go in your inventory system and it makes it makes picking things up, which how often in MMOs you pick shit up. And that game you pick shit up cost. And while you pick up stuff constantly, it's like after every kill picking stuff up should be a lot easier in a game and I have no idea why two or three different functions are assigned a one-button. That would happen to me all the time where I you know equip some stupid gun. I'm like why the fuck am I not killing this? Oh what is this gun in my hand? Yeah because I have a level one P shooter now.

Yeah some old pieces of shit in my hand. I experienced a similar problem in Fallout New Vegas where anytime you would walk into somewhere they would where they would confiscate your weapons it would also reset your quick launch on your D-pad. So like I had set my D pad upwards like I have a long range, short range middle, like medium range, where I can say left, right or down. Every single time you go into somewhere where they pull your weapons, you'd have to reset it. It's just do it all over. It's when you lose that item, they do that. It's the same thing with Stimpax. Like I always had a hot button for Stimpax. And if you ran out of Stimpax

and bought more, it wouldn't remap it. You'd have to go back in and reset the quick use. Like why isn't always just permanently like this will always be Yeah, if you have that item. Yeah, that'll be it. If you don't have that item that it doesn't do anything. Yeah I don't know that seems like it that seems like a no brainer. Yeah, well, it seems like it would be a good 3d game to me Yeah, yeah, I go that wow seems like it will be a good 3d game as well be interesting. I just just recently I just, I just just, I mean, just now thought that, um, wow, there's areas of wow that really remind me of Avatar. Yeah. Like, un-Goro crater and stuff like that.

There's, there's stuff in the outlines that's almost like, like, like, Nogoran actually. There's a lot of stuff in there. It's like floating islands. Oh, yeah, yeah. So. Rip off. Hallelujah Hills. Is that what they call it in Avatar?

Yeah. How is that what they call it in Avatar? How L what they call an avatar hallelujah hills. I think so interesting. I don't know that's the Navi name. I don't think so either you know that that blue ray. Monty's been watching that thing pretty much on a loop since it came out and the new avatar blue ray has so much additional content it's pretty awesome. I think it's like three discs blue ray is like 45 hours content and of content, I'm pretty sure. Do you see the alien box set that money got? That's like 40 DVDs. He folded it out from me. It's like 12 DVDs for three movies, four movies. Wow. It's pretty crazy. Yeah, it's got a bunch of similar to avatars like extended cuts and things like that. On that avatar blue ray, can you watch the, like the performance capture version of the movie? I haven't seen it.

Monty does the thing where while he's working, he just always has something on a loop right there next to him. At least one thing, sometimes three things. There was a couple times when Avatar first came out on Blu-ray, when it was just the movie on Blu-ray and that was it. Yeah. He watched the entire movie at 50% speed, like he put it on half speed anded it and did that like two or three times. Mm-hmm. He was analyzing like the visual effects and everything like that Yeah, yeah, he's a on top of everything else. He's an amazing student of other people Yeah, I've never seen anybody consume stuff the way he does like he like I he watched the Ironman special effects are like special features for like 40 straight hours, I think like every time I went in there, he was watching John Favre talking about stuff.

He's like something from the future. He has so many monitors with so many different things going on around this. He really is. It's like Project Swordfish. If a monitor goes missing, I assume it's on his desk. And it probably is. And he's using the shit out of every one of them too. Also, the sandwich goes missing. It's probably there. The crazy thing though to me is that, you know, in watching all that stuff is like how

he can consume it all, one of the things he does like that is video games. He plays no video games at all. He just watches them all on YouTube. Right, yeah. He watches some fighting stuff but not much. Or like, yeah, when he plays like, he plays Ninja Gaiden over and over and over again. He watches stuff that has animation cycles. Yeah. He plays the same, like, he'll get obsessed with the game and just play it over and over and over again. He watched this stuff that has animation cycles. Yeah. Yeah.

He plays the same, same, like, he'll get obsessed with the game and just play it over and over again. But I watched him the other day. I was watching him. I watched him, I was having a conversation with him while he was watching like 20 minutes of cutscenes and gameplay from enslaved. And I was like, oh, are you going to play that game?

And he's like, no, I don't need to. I got this, you know, he just was content to watch it. Yeah, he watches, he watches about 95% of the video games. Yeah, that he can see, which is a really weird way to go about that. Sometimes he'll come into our office and just watch whatever we're playing, you know? The other day is watching one of those final fantasy games

where you take turns punching the monster and casting those, but I hate those games so much. It's like attack, attack. It's like, you're just hitting A for like two weeks of your life essentially. And he's watching one of these battles like how can you watch this? How many possibilities like I just think this kind of game is like wow. I mean, that's saying they're staring at the monitor. He's working and it's like there to his left and he can look over and he's listening to it while he's watching. I don't know. I don't have issues with that. I mean,

something like everyone has the sort of you know, guilty pleasure game like the dynasty warriors games I fucking love those games and they're those are just idiotic button mashers So same thing. Yeah, Jack has never played civilization ever really. Yeah, I sent out an email recently Seeing who would be interested in dedicating like a Saturday to coming up to the office and let's all play a full multiplayer game of civilization and let's all play a full multiplayer game of civilization. I think that would take longer than a Saturday, I think. You think it would? God. If we're all in the room and we're all playing, I think we could get done.

I said I've never played a full multiplayer game of civilization in my entire life. I don't think I have either. Do you think anyone has? I am sure there's people that have. You used to be able to play it by mail. Do you remember that? No.

It was an email function where you take a turn and it would email it to your buddy that it was just turned's civil is that? I'm gonna say civ two. Did that? Yeah, and it we it's like old chest by mail kind of a thing. Yeah. You know. But you should you should definitely play civilization. I was I was planning on picking up through the Mac version of steam, but I didn't play a place of rev on the Xbox. Let's get I think I like severe more than I like sub five. Oh, it's you dumb down. What do you think? I thought sub five was too dumb down Oh, you did okay. Yeah, all right. Silver. I've seen it was it was it seemed to flow faster It's it's cool. It's a lot of fun. You get locked up especially like technology trees

Yeah, man. I was so fucking angry I was dominating my continent and I realized it was another continent where the fucking Russians in French I was like fuck those assholes. How the fuck did they spawn over there? Like I didn't build any netted like suddenly wrap up my navy go over there Stap them around a bit. You can also play it on the iPhones great iPhone Oh, I have it on the iPhone, but I played it. I have no idea what the hell is going on So yeah, I was like that with minecraft I didn't understand you know It's just look at the worst graphics in the world and wandering around

Carries and playing minecraft like non-stop as he yeah, you know He plays that mode where you just you get as many bricks as you want you build whatever you want Which I find out that's how people make those enormous things. Oh, yeah, which I guess is pretty cool But not really I mean it's not cool. I mean, it's you know if you have a world and you're trying to survive and you're trying to get stuff That seems a lot cooler to me. Yeah That games tough because you can build a lot of stuff and Unless you're very careful about where you actually Started building from where you spawned you spawned in the same point in the world all the time

so you can lose your own constructions and You know you know you can kill you're like crap Where was that thing that I just went to we've been building and we had a really cool moment because I played with my kid and we found one of our old caves and homes like really like like several game sessions later so it's like finding your own relic it was really kind of cool that's awesome it's like wait a minute I know that tree there's a torch oh it, it's great. So.

Hey, should we talk about any release stuff we have coming out this week? Today's Wednesday. Sure. Yeah, let's do that and wrap up. We're going on this coming out. Yeah. We've been going pretty long. We do have a new immersion coming out today.

Is that right? It's the girl immersion. Ooh, that's no spoiler because it was the next time. It was the previous one. But is that coming out today? Yeah, that comes out today. Sorry. It's all coming to me.

And then we're also, Brandon was putting up for sponsors. I forget what he was putting up earlier this week, but then Griffin and Brandon, I recorded director's commentaries for the first two episodes of immersion as well. So we're gonna put those up sponsors as well. That's cool. Well, one of the things we're thinking about with immersion,

we don't really see it as being a product that's gonna go to DVD. So we just wanna like, just make it like essentially build a virtual DVD. All the content we would normally have in DVD and just put it. Put it up for this monster. Congratulations. Congratulations. I'll do your success to the second one. Like it blew up, man. Oh, thanks, thanks. Yeah. And you guys, the Achievement Horse thing is... It also blew up.

Yeah. Yeah. By the way, speaking of congratulations. It's a bitter speaking Congratulations the achievement hunter finally got best finally got dumped down the second place in the gaming section the gaming shows on YouTube. Yeah, it got dumped down the second and replaced with immersion. Oh my god was the top day in your house when that happened. I just off this morning. I was like why the fuck am I second place? Oh, I'm also first place. That's fine. I guess you're both shows. We're all over that shows page on YouTube. Like RT shorts is on there, red versus blue is on there. That's good. I don't think people have a lot of shows.

I mean, I think we're I mean, we just we do different. We call them shows. And that's the way we've always done it. You know, and a lot of times when you look at the shows on YouTube It's really just different channels for people doing whatever they do. Yeah, essentially. Yeah, the full-of-franco show is for all the Franco's channel, you know what I mean? I mean, like the Rooster Chief YouTube account is sort of a giant bucket and so the show is their way to kind of separate that out So if someone doesn't want to see all the you know the achievement hunter stuff We throw and they can watch this red versus blue or if they only want to see a sheep hunter They can do that or they can do that or T-shirts Rooster Chief dot com watch it there it there, yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

RRUSHT.com. Resource for everything RUSHRT. That's right. Every video we've ever made appears on RUSHT.com. What is the, what is the cut up for if people want to order from the store before Christmas? I have that in my email. I don't know.

I've talked my head. I'm going to say, depending on their shipping options, they can order as late as probably the 19th of the 20th. I think it gets stuff in time. I think by like US Postal Service, it as probably the 19th of the 20th. Mm-hmm. And get stuff in time. I think by US Postal Service, it's probably going to be around the 17th. But I will post on the front page. Have we talked about the shirts that we got on the store that I'm so happy about? The red flag in the blue flag shirts?

Yeah, we've talked about them. And today I put a new shirt in the store today. Oh, we brought back an old favorite at your request. We brought back. Well, not at your request, but you. It was one of your favorite shirts when we were looking for an old shirt to highlight. What is it? I'm a gay robot. Oh, nice. Yeah. It's down forever. Yeah, it's been it's been out of rotation for about three years. So tears.

Awesome. Once you achieve my own shirt going up. I don't know. It's it's it's it's being printed right now. Okay. So into the week. No, like like we we mentioned the achievement on our shirt on an I will like three weeks ago. And I'm still like two weeks ago. So I think I should make an achievement horse horse saying that even should make an achievement horse. I'm not saying that's even horse. And an achievement shirt. Yeah, achievement. Someone needs to draw an achievement horse, like actually a horse that's themed around achievement. Send that to Jack at AchievementHunter.com.

I can be a logo. Very well made up horse. Or you can send it to it now. Alright, well, let's wrap up. Alright, alright, let's wrap up, Patti. What do you want to talk about? We mentioned already, Burnham Blaney, that we mentioned that next week we're going to be talking about nominations for Drunk Tank Awards. And we'll go from there. Yeah, hey, Drunk Tank, feel free to find us. I'll write a journal post or a link to him or something.

Not too late to buy all of your favorite Rooster Teeth gear and get it sent to your house by Christmas. And somebody should make us a holiday themed song. That would be nice. For next week's travel. Christmas music for... If we will get it in time for py-lye podcast at RoosterTeeth.com. Yeah.

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