Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #95

Episode Date: January 5, 2011

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Twisted metal, streaming now now only on peacock What's up bitches Is that your new catch phrase that's when you catch phrase Since they're always taking the welcome to the Drunk Tank podcast in the theme song. Yeah, so yeah. Now in six months they'll take that and I'll move on to something else. Welcome to the Drunk Tank confuses me every time. I can only imagine it confuses the audience every single time as well. Yeah, okay. They'll do that.

I feel like we need our own theme song now. Like a permanent theme song? Don't you think so at this point? Like we need something like the amp you up Our theme songs are like either really long and really awesome or too sure like what the hell just happened. Yeah Like being thrown into the water. This learn how to swim. How about this? I know many this Bernie's can we pay license music on the podcast sure why not? I'm gonna throw it. How about this Some girl talk some uh

Ozzy Osborne Jay Z and ludicrous. I'm only playing that because we played girl talk about 20,000 times too many in this office. Oh, yeah I think I listened to the first two albums already this morning or not the first two In my defense I got all my music I lost it when my computer's got stolen and I haven't called Apple to re-download it yet. So Girl Talks, the only free available music I can download to listen to. So, my entire library uses Girl Talk now. Since music got stolen from you, can the RIA go after the thieves? I hope so.

The music thieves. That's true, they are. I'm sure we'll get right on that. We the Jeff IRA. The G-I-R-A. I mean, you can just kind of see something. You're a- I have the G-A.

I have the police gotten a hold of you since that one evening. No? Griffin, please. They've got the vestment on the case. I am not going to interfere with the detective-y process. Every email they have to answer is like time that they wasted on the hunt. Yeah, they were so close to grabbing the criminals and, oh, this email I have to respond. It's like in Treyit when Matt Ham is like,

I was within 100 yards of them once. I suddenly... The only time I ever saw them. See, is there anything I always think of the big Lebowski scene where the junkyard with his busted car and he asked the cop if he hasn't he leads? He's like, Captain just put two new detectors on the case.

We got to look at his shifts. LAUGHTER Man, that bit actor, that character actor. just put two new detectors on the case. We got to look at it in shifts. Man, that bit actor, that character actor. I mean, why hasn't he been in the audience? No kidding. The way he laughs at that. So should we jump right into the awards? Because we can go straight from... Let's do it.

...Iglobalski into why I don't want Tron to win best picture of the anime. With Obi-Wan Labowski character in Tron. Does everybody see me yet? Everybody see Tron? Yeah, I saw it. Gus told me not to see it because everything I said in the trailer was correct. I said that I mean I don't think I disliked as much as you did but I said the things that Jeff was concerned about in the trailer turned out to be the worst parts of the movie like the the Zeus character, the dude in white, and Daff Punk making a cameo. I mean, they cut to them like 15 times in two minutes to like show you like, hey, look who this is

over here. They talk to me 1.2. Yeah, the Zeus character says, playing the music, boys or whatever. Hey kids, look at that. We're hip. We got the Daff point. That was awful. That whole scene. That that that was all terrible however that being said I did buy the soundtrack in the soundtrack is awesome Yeah, it's probably one of my favorite scores since the original Batman score for like that kind of movie at least you know Bad dance no Big Prince fan no the daddy Elfman right? a big prince fan. No, the daddy, Elfman, right? Daddy Elfman.

Oh, yeah. Although I did have, I did have bat dance on a five minute auto reverse tape in my car for a very long time. I'm almost embarrassed. I was driving a car with the original batman. Came out. Dude, I was so hyped from batman was coming out. I was so excited for that.

It came out on my birthday. It was the best night of my life. Was it, I want to say it was June 13th? I don't know. June 19th is your birthday. So yeah, and then Then they had a it was also at the time that boys in the hood was out And so I saw it in the same theater as boys in the hood and like as I was leaving There was a shoot out in the parking lot nice. Yeah, awesome those movies

I can't believe they came up they were in the theater at the same time They seemed like different time periods to me. No, they're both like 89 right? Wow, boys and girls earlier than me that's weird. What do you cause the shoot out? I was all I've lead debate about theme. Yeah, it was all the Batman fans fighting the boys Speaking of she that's a roomy to tell you something after we do the awards. Okay Go for it now. Yeah, okay. Well, it's not even really anything dramatic But did you guys see on the way to work today? There was a forensics fan parked on the side of 35. I did see that. I don't think I've ever seen a forensics fan. What does that mean? Yeah, well, there was like a cop car with a light, so I'm like, oh, somebody got pulled over. And then I looked and right behind it, you know, like the lights

were there to stop people from hitting it. There was a forensic van and they were looking over the edge of like over the embankment or whatever it is. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I wonder if there was like, they found somebody. So you business going on down there? There's everybody old wharf, the old wharf. I did going on down there? There's everybody old dwarf, the older fake, exactly. And that's house. Communitely close to Matt's house. There you go. Do you think the forensics guys feels like,

feel like, like, bad asses in the station now that CSI is such a huge hit? Oh, I would imagine so. Oh, yeah. They just strut around. Has to be way better than like, Quincy. Yeah, yeah. Like, Quincy did for them.

Before it was like, before it was like, it took me a while. The cool cops were like, get out your magnifying glass nerd. We've got three hit shows on TV. Who's the nerd now? Muscles. If you're the forensic guy in the local police department, how long into the run of CSI before you start wearing sunglasses to the office every day? I was like, immediately.

It's that after the pilot episode. And if you're a woman woman you were like the Mark Helgenberger pants suit kind of thing Have you ever watched any of the size I've seen commercials? Same here. I've never seen any I think I've seen one or two Episodes like on late night TV when I'm wrong. There's nothing else on I did watch one episode because it had something to do with like second life I think it was like a second life murder and CSI was no he was in criminal mind. Oh, okay different. Sorry. Yeah, yeah Phopal I don't think I've ever watched a full episode of lawn order either I've watched a billion episodes of lawn order really man my dad loves that show I got a me I even got him one year. I got him a autograph Jerry Albach picture for his birth

That's how much he likes it. That's awesome. Who's that? Jerry Orback, he was one of the main guys in loan or he's dead. He's a guy, right? He died like two years ago? Yeah. I think I know that guy, I think I'm picturing his face now, but for those guys, you can't

ever remember what he was in. Caretaker. So that autograph just went up in value. I guess so. You bay, here we come. I'm going on YouTube right now just to see if I can find the intro to Quincy. Yeah. All right, so should we get started? Let's get started in these awards. Okay, dude. Let's do it before we, uh, we made it so long that we forget. Well, I think that we made everyone wait long enough.

And they were waiting, too. They're like, go ahead and help me out of the water. No, they were so angry. Have to last week. They started the year. Did you get any look back? Did you get any look back? They need closure in 2010. They're not watching any new internet videos till we proclaim the best internet video 2010 They can't get started on 2011 till that door's closed Which by the way actually there is a candidate an early candidate for 2011 already Did you see the video about the homeless guy? Oh the homeless singer? I haven't watched that one yet

He's not a homeless singer. You have to watch it It does look when you see the title of the video. It seems like but he's got that great voice, right? It's it's you just got to see it. You know, you see the title of the video, it seems like... But he's got that great voice, right? It's, it's, you just gotta see it. You know, that's how Wesley Willis gotta start. He was homeless and singing on the side of the road and in Chicago and already executive walked by and was like... We got the castle. Whoa, you're really awesome with your little castle.

We used to, um... And then he became famous. Wesley Willis. Yeah, that's how you gotta start. Wesley Willis is not awesome. Yeah, he is. Uh-oh. And he's like the homeless Bismarkey, I mean, we look for him using.

You just, what you just described was awesome. But a lot of people listen. A lot He's like the homeless Bismarkey, I mean, we live from music. You just described was awesome. A lot of people listen. A lot of people like Wesley Willis. Let me see you. At a career. Let me see you the greatest Wesley Willis song. Battle, Star Galactical! And Prince Fress.

And that's exactly, that's a perfect representation of his music. Pretty much, yeah. He just screams and bangs on a camera. Somehow you don't have the same flair with it that he does though No, I don't have the stage presence. He's got personality of the homeless guy outside the subway. All right internet video of the year So we screwed up and we forgot to nominate two things. Yeah, we forgot to nominate What was the one I told you that day? Gus that we forgot to nominate the The arguing with an i-bex? Arguing with the i-bex?

Great, great video. I think I arguing politics with the goat. And the guy... Bank rubber eats hold up note. That's a great one, right? That's got to be my favorite. And it's pretty good. I was so mad when I saw that,

I'm like a compilation video the other day. I can't believe we forgot that. where a guy is being arrested and they've got him on the hood of the police car and the essentially the dashboard cam is right in the guy's face and it's being leaned over the hood and the cops are pulling all the stuff out of his pockets and he'd held up somewhere like a bank or a convenience or I don't know what he was a bank but he had a note the hold up note and they're pulling stuff out of his pockets and they pull this piece of paper out and he sees it because they put it right in front of him on the hood and they've got him leaned over and he just leans down and eats the notes. Awesome. Each of the evidence right there.

I mean, that is a fast thinking criminal. Dude, yeah, that dude deserves the award. And when he gets out, bam, he can have it in 10 to 20. So, is that who you voted for, Jeff? Bam. I don't know if we can do that. Because he didn't make the official selection. I mean, can we talk to the community?

The academy is going to take away our fucking credit, you know, a accreditation. Can we just recognize it? Let me go. Let's just recognize it. Lifetime, which you've been award for. Do you really want to give an online video award to a dude who just committed crime? As opposed to a lot of things going for it. As opposed to drunk as dude ever. I was eating my grocery list. Like like here's some validation for your disease sir how do you explain that in court why did you eat the piece of paper it was my grocery list and when I saw peanut butter on there my doctor

told me to more fiber in my diet so I started to start on it I didn't want to eat my wallet so I ate the paper instead okay so who's everyone voting for man I I know you guys want to like focus on those one off videos that are just like the random reality videos, like guiding a note or dude falls off as roof, but you got to give, you got to give some recognition of Freddie W and the stuff he did this year. I would say the, the flower warfare, is that what it's called? Yeah, that's the one we put on there, right? Yeah,

flower warfare on there. Yeah, I got to, I got to make a case for that, you know, that the flower warfare warfare one on there. Yeah, I gotta make a case for that. You know, the flower warfare one was fantastic. It's my favorite of the ones you did. Let me ask you this, Gus, I'm not clear enough. Like with bed and shooter and bed and shooter song, and then double rain, bone double rain, bone song, are those four separate entries

or are they bundled together? We decided to do four separate entries when we did the nomination. I think that it was made, why did we do that? That makes it harder. I think it should have been bundled. Because it's two different performers. It's either two in the news people or the original video. You're totally right. Hey, here's why I think

you did it. I think you did it just to mess with you. That's why I think. But I think that the two play off each other. I mean, that's sort of what happens, you know, like, you know, like, kind of like, oh, it's that from. Because I want to vote for double rainbow song because Millie sang it for three months straight. And it was really funny every time should say it is first but it's not but I would be I would think you should vote for the original Well, we didn't ask for your fucking life story. Which one do you like? Okay, I'm gonna go for Freddie W. Freddie W. Are you really? Yeah, look at that. So that's too for Freddie W I'm gonna go with double rainbow original original and you said Freddie W I'll just Freddie Freddie W. I was gonna go for double rainbow song. Oh, so I guess Freddie W wins. Okay Okay, congratulations. Our warfare. Freddie. I just I'll hold on. It's not official till I write it down in the notebook

Got to find a clean piece of paper here Well, I Have no idea again looking in this notebook some of the notes I make myself Horse tips is greater than fails. I have no idea. Again, looking in this notebook, some of the notes I make myself. Horse tips is greater than fails. I have no idea what that means. What the fuck does that mean? I think you're saying that I'd probably Jeff's Halo videos that horse and tips. Oh, this was a note for me. Yeah, the trite for email email addresses horse. Fails. Yeah, look at you reverse engineering my notes. I'mes. Horses, Horses, Horses. Horses, Horses, Horses. Horses, Horses, Horses. Horses, Horses. Horses.

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Horses. Horses. Horses. Horses. Horses. Hors so movie of the year. We're already category two. Just being right along. Well, we already eliminated stuff that I think our audience would want to see, like, Scott Pilgrim and Tron. People really upset that we didn't include Scott Pilgrim. That's okay. Yeah. I'm upset that Scott Pilgrim didn't include a story or a plot of any kind. You think they'll be equally upset when you Academy Awards, a snowp Scott Pilgrim? Man, I don't know. There was something else that somebody was saying that was a movie that was out.

Oh, somebody was talking about happy Gilmore is being one of the greatest sports movies they've ever seen. I don't remember happy Gilmore is being that big of a movie or that interesting. I don't know if I'd consider it a sport movie. I guess. I guess there was sports in the news. It's a sense of the time. I'm saying it's like I don't think over time people are gonna go back to

got pilgrim or kickass you know yeah i think kickass might have a cult life uh... but i think scott pilgrim is just another in a long line of michael sarah movies that'll get bundled as a michael sarah movie and it's yeah and it's not like it's not better worse than any of the other ones and it's just like you know how long how long do you think it's gonna how long do you think he's gonna have? Well, he'll hit puberty someday And then he'll McCullough call it I love him, but he is the same guy almost so what no no No, no, I'm the wrong with that. I know that I'm just for walking and I show off for Christopher walking

Yeah, I mean just eventually things slow down for a person that's pretty much this I don't know I can't make fun of him because I do the same I'm the same person in every RT shorts You find that niche and you stick with it. No, I mean I love him I liked most of the movies that Nick and Nora's movie I thought was great so last one is I You only problem with that and this is something that I hate in movies sometimes is when they don't match the actor and the actress that are the love interest As far as face size so when they go in for a kissing scene it looks really weird like her head was so much bigger I know that's a stupid thing to do good. weird. Like her head was so much bigger than it.

I know that's a stupid thing to get. I don't think I was about. I've never noticed that. But they really casting directors really need to get those actors up close to see if their heads are gonna work together. I just like watching some girls kiss. But you know, I just think that, you know, over time, I don't think of it as a Michael Cere movie. I actually think of it as an Edgar Wright movie because it was so heavy on the direction right now I could see that I mean I didn't come out of the movie thinking at all of us Michael Sera movie that's another problem I have with that movie I like Edgar Wright okay but I don't like people talk about Edgar

Wright as he's the next Steven Spielberg and he made one really good movie in Sean of the dead. Yeah. Hot Fuzz was like an hour too long. I like hot fuzz. It was, it was okay. I think hot fuzz can work. It was too long. How did this turn from movie the year of the breakdown? And then Scott Fuzz was like, had no substance, essentially. I could watch hot fuzz more than I could watch on the dead.

I have more rewatchability, I think. I don't know. You think I'm wrong? Well, that was my think. I don't know about that. Same. You think I'm wrong? Well, that was my problem with Tron, too. The first Tron was, obviously, wasn't that great a movie. It's not even campy. It's just kind of bad in a lot of ways.

But it's consistently bad. And at least it had something to say. At the time when the first Tron came out in 1982, that was when most people knew about computers through video games and through arcades because the Pac-Man fever thing was huge at the time and it was like you went to arcades, it was part of the culture. The problem I've got with this tron is that this tron stuck with the video game thing, which yeah, they're still a big thing, but it's really not the main way that people interface

with computers and technology. And they, I can't believe they went 25 years, they put a movie out in this culture and they didn't mention the worldwide web once Like there was that little segment at the beginning where the their OS was released on the web Yeah, and that was the only reference to that the problem the reason for that is you know The initial part of the movie takes place in current time But then most of the movie takes place in the computer when you know they were which is was a which was a snapshot from 1989, which predated the, you know, people's wide use of the web.

Right, but they did have, and this we're going to talk about some stuff here that's going to be spoilerish, so sorry if you haven't seen Tron, but I'm assuming that everyone who listens to podcasts and interested in Tron probably has seen it in one manner or another. They had the whole thing where the clue is trying to get his army out of the computer. What better way to do that than to like, here's a computer from 1989 that's in a basement in an arcade. They found a way to get out or find a way to connect themselves to the internet and that's how they're going to get out.

But that requires a physical connection. A computer from 1989 didn't have the physical capability to connect to the internet. No, no, okay, I get what you're saying, but it would have had a network card in it in 1989. Maybe, not, I mean, like a token ring. I mean, maybe, I don't know if that. Well, if it's got a computer that can digitize you, I mean, the latest digitization. It's not that big of a league.

You're also saying here, you're also saying, this is a problem when you talk about movies, you say, well, it's a computer from 1989, 1989. Okay, so what, make the computer from 1992. Don't get locked into what they wrote in the movie, you could write whatever you want to, it's a sequel. They could have made the computer from 1992 don't get locked into what they wrote in the movie you could write whatever you want to It's a sequel. They could have made the they could have made the computer from 1998 if they wanted to right So they could have just written it differently or just before the internet or whatever

But they didn't do that they made it from 1989 and they made some weird device now Narrative device where the people are gonna come out of the computer and apparently they can do that and they can become real It was it was strange to me really strange Yeah, that was kind of bizarre they abandoned all the stuff in Tron that kind of made it cool and geeky like that Everyone he runs into in that world is a program. There's no illusion of that at all I mean they're going to nightclubs. Yeah, you know in the in the game or in the computer world that nightclub scene was the worst part of the movie to me I mean what is what is that what is the metaphor for a nightclub in the computer world. That nightclub scene was the worst part of the movie to me. I mean, what is that? What is the metaphor for a nightclub in a computer, you know, it just doesn't make any

sense to me. Yeah. At least the game grid and stuff like that. Everything they did in Tron at least had some kind of counterpart actually in the digital world. It seemed like and there's nothing. There's no illusion like that. It's just we're going to go to a place where everything's dark and people light up.

Yeah, it's your porn folder. It's your porn folder. So that I think that was my main problem with it. to go to a place where everything's dark and people light up. It's your porn folder. It's your porn folder, can't it? So that, I think that was my main problem with it. But then I actually went back and watched it on a second time. And after I went in without the expectation, I liked it a lot more. Yeah, I went in with low expectations. I thought it was fine.

I mean, it's not the greatest movie ever. How did Teddy like it? Teddy, we, while we walked out after Custetti's 5 and Teddy can't sit through, you know, a two-hour movie. Yeah. So it was fine up until we got to the part where they're on the solar sailor again, and it's just this long exposition part.

And I don't know. Pinyor Kade had a funny comment about that part of the movie where they're talking about getting to the portal, and I think Tyco said, if the portal's so hard to get to, why do they have a fucking train that goes straight to it? Yeah. It's like, they made this big deal about how hard it was going

to be, there's like, oh, let's get on that train. It goes right over there. And if the portal opens up, wouldn't that be a major event in F for everybody? Yeah. It's just, is it only, it hasn't opened in 1,000 cycles or whatever? The whole time thing didn't make much sense to me either.

Yeah, they were really weird about it. Like, a, a millicycle was eight hours or something like that. Right, they did the actual gauge. Yeah, they gave you a number of them. Compared to this, so it's like something a cycle would be eight thousand hours So then you know it hasn't opened in eight million hours or you know what I had no idea Yeah, and how long was that and then the Jeff Bridges character they actually Kind of tied into his like socialist hippie kind of character that he had in trauma

But then they took him like to this oh, yeah, oh be one Lebowski thing that I was talking about earlier where he was like, I don't know, it just seemed really kind of derivative of Star Wars and Matrix and other things that kind of matched up together. There were a lot of, I don't know, Lebowski overtones to his character like, oh, and you're really messing with this Zen thing I've got going on. Right. Yeah, I definitely felt that. So I think it was important that we put on the nomination list because we hadn't seen it yet, but overall I'd say if we had to pick a Jeff Bridges movie, TruGrip was way, way

better. Anybody else see TruGrip? Yes. I was missing it. What do you think? I was awesome. A different movie than I thought it would be. I expected it to be more of a, like, a no-country old men-esque kind of coming brothers film,

and it was a lot sillier than I expected. It was. I guess it's very true to the story. And I'd say about 70% of that movie Millie could have watched. There were just a few scenes that were pretty gruesome. But it was good. It felt kind of like a family-esque movie, except for like 10 minutes of it, maybe 15 minutes. Brainy was telling me because he liked it. It was a different kind of movie to set as a western and kind of turn the western genre on its ear.

But I think unforgiven did that a lot better. I would agree with that for sure. It didn't really turn the western role that it's ear to me. Well I think the silliness of it, I was surprised by some of the characters that when they showed up they weren't quite as wady as I was kind of hoping they would be. Like the Josh Rowland character? Yeah, yeah. I didn't really dislike him a lot about him. He was a little lighthearted. uh... set like you like the josh bro one character yeah i didn't really dislike him he was a little lighthearted little i'd heard it

but maybe that's kind of believable in a sense to like not every fuck up is a hard and criminal you know true in the old west when there was less less law and you know i guess it would be easier to make a mistake like that but once again they built them up that way but they did they did they built them up that way like especially the first scene of the movie, Jason, I'm the whole movie

and I got the no country from old men vibe like you did. Yeah. Like early on in the movie, especially those first scenes. Well, the trailer came across very heavy. I thought. Yeah. The trailer, the trailer is not the movie that I saw. I'll say that. I would be griffin. I would be interested for you to go see the movie because I would love to know what you thought about the costumes for that movie. I I actually really do want to see it and I had planned on seeing it over the weekend but we just had house guests like people in town so I couldn't really get away. Man they I don't know where you saw it but I saw it at the Alamo and before the movie they showed cuts from

the original John Wayne film. God that was boring. I don't like when the Alamo does that. I usually don't like it ruined district nine for me when they showed Alien nation before yeah, because you're like wow, that's a remake It's a weird tone sometimes but it worked in this one because it really made me appreciate true grit Because I would get that scene. I'd be like man. Thank God the colon brothers made this and not whoever the fuck made the John Wayne version again I can actually I do like it even even if it is, like you said, like it shows that things are derivative, it is an interesting way. It's kind of cool to have that, like,

what, I don't know what you call it. Like a perspective on it? Yeah, to have an extra perspective. I think that's what the Alamo does well. But they want you to think about films in general. It can work. I do think it can backfire. I definitely, it definitely took me out of district,

whatever the fuck it was called. District nine. District nine. Okay. In, in, no country for old men i saw the alamo and they had a bit that the alamo themselves had recorded where they were testing the newmatic device

the cattle oh yeah cattle killer what you call right yeah i know what it's called but they were testing on pumpkins in front of the alamo and having fun doing that i was like why are they doing this no money into the scene the movie where the device appears it really kind of muted that yeah that's Yeah, what we're talking about is Alamo because you have to show up 40 minutes early for a movie at the Alamo

They have a big long pre-roll where they just they roll a bunch of random video clips on the screen that are fun and have to do with the movie But sometimes they I think they don't realize that Yeah, there's something a're telling sometimes. We uh man that's that's out of control by the way we went there Saturday I took Caleb and Barbara there and uh roadblock and we got there a full hour early for a 5 pm show on Saturday and we were probably 200th in line. Wow. Yeah it was we were out the door. Wow. And a full hour early. Yeah. It's crazy. I love the Alamo, but it's a huge time commitment. I love the team.

I noticed that our group and we're huge Alamos porters have been starting to go to other movies that have just talked about. Well, I still go to the Alamo. It's just like, give me a signed seed or something. I go to the high ball and drink. Everything you did? A standard one in the cold.

A signed seeding a fuel downtown location for a while, but then they abandoned it. Yeah. But you would buy a ticket and choose your seed. I don't know what the logistics are for that. Maybe it's very difficult to do. I know that we had it at the ArcLite when you and I went Gus and it were really well there. Well, there's a big difference between the ArcLite and the Alamo.

The Alamo is really a restaurant that happens to show movies. So if somebody reserves a seat and then doesn't show up for it, they lose their money for their restaurant. Yeah, that's really me. I don't know. Why do you have this two front rows in a movie theater that are so close and nobody wants to sit in them and then it's a people who like straggling at the end who'd rather stand up along the side and watch the movie that way. Why even have seats there?

Just take them out. How would you eliminate a front row? Well, I just don't do that. Where do you stop? No, but at some point, it's just too close. You can't see anything. You should open your own theater. That's all back roads.

That's it. Obviously, movie theaters advertise they have huge stage area in front of the screen. So you start off 30 feet away from the screen. If you're running late and you know you're going to Alamo or someplace, it's like, you know you're not going to see the movie well. You might as well just see it another time. Because you know the two front rows of the only things are going to be available. I will say this that the element does really well is that they go through with ushers and they make people move down

and sit together. They do do that. They don't want you to believe a space between you and the people next to you. Uh-huh. Which of the animals even harder? Because the person next to you is eating you know steak tacos. Or a large pizza. Did you see Tron at the iMacs Bernie? I saw Tron at, no, just a normal synoplex, the one right across the street from us here. And then I went and saw it up at the galaxy, which has the debauchs seats where you move. And it has reactions to the actual movie on your seat. That was pretty cool. The reason I asked is they did something weird at the, I don't know if it was all iMacs or just the one here, but they had like a special injury, you know normally I tell you,

tell turn off your cell phone, squeeze to the middle so you can fit everyone in. They had like the voice, like a computer synthesized voice speaking to you, like you were programs in Tron. Oh that's cool. Yeah, telling you to turn off your communication devices and you know, initiate your silence protocols and the weird stuff like that. I've never seen them do any for any other movie at the IMX. I don't think you know what Tron was, you don't have to wear your 3D glasses for half the movie. Yeah. I took him off when I watched it with my,

when I went the second time, I took him off for the first half of the movie. Why is that? It's 2D. Oh, so there's only 3D portions. Once you basically go into the game world, then it goes into 3D. Yeah, there was part. And I thought all those shots are 3D. Yeah, there was a warning at the beginning

of the movie when I saw, I don't know if you saw, you probably had it also saying that there's a lot, that there's 2D scenes in the movie and that that's normal. Well, why, why do that? It just, I mean, I like to, because it's kind of like, you know, Wizard of Oz when it, like, everything goes to color, like, I like that idea, but if you've got to have, like, an apparatus to view it, it seems like a pin in the ass like you got it put your glasses on and off You can just give him on the whole time. That's what I did. So it doesn't okay. The 2d looks I guess like 3d glasses now aren't like they used to be I think I might be over 3d Really yeah, I really like the first avatar is cool, but I don't know I called it. I still like it

I think everybody called it. I'm about to get Gran Turismo though for my PlayStation Oh, yeah play 3d at home. I still like it. I think everybody called it. I'm about to get Gran Turismo, though, for my PlayStation. Oh, yeah. Play 3D at home. I like 3D at home. I actually, you know, time or demand. There's like, I think it's like a total of eight movies you can watch at home now in 3D. And they're all either animated Pixar Dreamworks movies or their Discovery Channel movies.

They're starting to broadcast NFL games in 3D, right? I saw them talking about that and showing the cameras, but I don't know how to get that. If they broadcast some of the world cup games, I think, on ESPN and 3D, didn't they? Oh. Oh, what was that? Was that Lisbon versus Tokyo? What was the game that showed in 3D? Lisbon has a team that competes in the World Cup.

Lisbon State. Lisbon State. All right. So, movie of the year. Can you run down the list of contenders? Let's look at the rest of them. Alright, well our list was Inception, Book of Eli, exit through the gift shop, Tron Legacy, True Grit, Toy Story 3, Jackass 3D, The Town, The Fighter, The Social Network.

Okay. I'm gonna vote for Freddie Wong. I forgot all that. I'm gonna vote for exit through the gift shop for mine. Interesting. Simply because I did watch the town and I know you did as well. And it was good. You didn't think it was good.

I did. Maybe I overspoken when we talked about it. I just not even as much as I said. I wanna say that none of us have seen Black Swan and none of us have seen the fighter. Right. So this is a big asterisk in this year. Yeah, it's always an asterisk. So you chose

to exit the gift shop. Jeff. Yeah. And it's I mean, I can't exit the gift shop. Yeah. I really enjoy Book of Eli and it's like it's fun, but I'm gonna go to exit the gift shop. I'm gonna change my vote to Book of Eli. Okay. You just don't want to be like part of the crowd.

No, I think I think it needs to vote because you guys are gonna vote for exit to the gift I'm gonna do inception So did you stop a gavila, right? Yeah, he was not blown away. I was not blown away Well, I mean, I it's it's a very clever book No, because if I had to pick between the two movie the year I'm gonna go with the exit to give shop Exit to give shop was good. I liked it Yeah, and the fact that everyone's still talking having conversations about it I think that's a sign in itself the year I'm going to go with the exit through the gift shop. The gift shop was good. I liked it. Yeah. And the fact that everyone's still talking, having conversations about it, I think that's

a sign in itself. I don't think exit through the gift shop focused enough on the web in social media. Too many lighted up people in that one too. No, but if you liked the social network, which I think will be a big contender for a picture of the year, you should also watch an independent movie called Catfish, which just came out on all the digital distribution, I think yesterday or Monday. It's a movie about social networking, about a documentary, about a guy who meets somebody online, and I thought it was pretty interesting. Kind of kind of an unfortunately, a bluer, which thing to it? Like, is it real or is it fake?

Who's in it? Nobody would know. It was like a Sundance, darling, that kind of had a theatrical release, I think. Does it have anything to do with catfish? Well, I mean, there's a reason why they named it catfish, and I'll just put it that. Okay. You want to watch it? Sure. Do you think I'm going to have much trouble finding Banksy to send him his trophy? No, but maybe you should send it to Terry.

You can find Terry pretty fucking easily. Do it! Send it to him. Yeah, absolutely send it to him. All right, Mr. Brainwash Mr. Brainwash. I've been reading a lot online about that movie and people thinking that it's not that it was all staged I think it was all stage. I think it might have been all staged, but it doesn't matter. That's a fucking 12-year commitment but the stage that you don't know the thing that's really had all that old footage They could just say they had all that old footage. They could have been working on it for a few years I don't doubt it took them a long time. It doesn it doesn't get anything to get a VHS recorder. Yeah. Yeah, I guess

that's true. I think it was actually stealthy. I think they've been working on it for a couple of years though. Do you guys ever see that art movement where they were taking those old Fisher Price cameras that would record on audio cassettes and you could record like four minutes at a time? I want to say it's a PLX2000 if I'm remembering correctly. It's a Fisher Price camera, they sold for a very limited time in the 80s and you could record video on Audio cassettes. No, yeah, it's anyway, so you can probably look at it. The PXL 2000 PXL. Thank you That's interesting. Yeah, it looks like garbage. It looks like really super super shitty super 8 essentially weird weird Okay, I saw the super 8 T and I need to get how do you I don't even know what to do with it?

digitize All right trailer of the year Our stupidest category let's just not do this category. Yeah, this is the last trailer I think we created this category last year for the Star Wars old republic I said to you and so we don't have anything. I'm gonna vote for the revelation red versus blue Recylation trailer To the man asshole. I want to give a trophy to myself. Awesome. What are our candidates? I don't even know. Uncharted 3, true grit, the old Republic Hope trailer,

Fable 3, launch trailer, the Hale Reach Deliver Hope, Tron Legacy, Mass Effect 3, Portal 2, Wheatley, Harry Potter, and Inception. I'm going to vote for Freddie Wong. Never gets old! Potter and inception. I'm gonna vote for Freddie Wong. I never get told. Jeff loves the repeated jokes. Jeff, why don't you take this one? I'm gonna vote for true grit, I guess, because I'd love to see Gus try to figure out how to get that to them. Ringing endorsement from just. I don't know, it's hard to get behind you. I'm gonna go with the Fable 3.

Fable 3? That's a cool thing. That's a cinematic, right? Yeah. Yeah, but the launch one where they're carrying down the statue. Oh, well, can we just make it the same? No. No.

I'm gonna vote for Skyline. Skyline? All right. We didn't know. I don't care. I'm writing it good. I never even saw that trailer was a good it was Triggy the initial teaser was did that movie come out yeah apparently was terrible I don't think I heard a single good thing about it. It was it's actually because it's $10 million big budget or not Big budget a big VFX movie for 10 million bucks. It's not the movie. It's the same $10 million battlefield Los Angeles or whatever

That's a weird story where the guys working on Battlefield Los Angeles decided to take their work and put it into Skyline or something like that, develop it on the side. So what are you saying Griffin? What do you want? I'm sticking with Able 3 because it didn't make game of the year category so I got a representing. Yeah, I'm going to stick with it. Also, I did like the statue one. I thought it was a cool. It seems very cool. Yeah. that also I did like the I did like the the statute one I thought it was a cool yeah skyline gross $52 million against the 10 million dollar production

buzzard wow 10 million in quotes 52 million worldwide 21 million dollars in the US hmm I would take it yeah I wonder how much of that budget was taken from Battlefield Los Angeles how many how many movies make 100% of their budgets and profits you know so are you abstaining from voting in our shitty category? I'm voting for Skyline or you're riding in. Bang. All right. Well, I vote for Fable 3 launch.

Oh, so we have, I was hoping we have a tie. No. We're in the last four of our tie. All right. So Fable 3 launch trailer. A lot of sci-fi movies coming out in 2011. Because we're in the future now. Oh, yeah.

Like what? Well, battlefield, Los Angeles. I am number four. I don't know what that is So it's a man to see it. I don't know how to explain it any Will Smith sci-fi movies I don't think so. Damn maybe the kid now is gonna start making those movies. Oh, yeah I saw him with Justin Bieber in some clip and man. It was like Will Smith. No, no, I don't Jaden Smith. Yeah, so I saw him in a little like some kind of like hanging out. It was like an entertainment tonight behind the scenes clip with Justin Bieber and Jaded and Smith joking around and I wanted to fucking shoot myself. That sounds awful. Yeah

It made me hate that I could see I can't believe that I can't believe the entertainment tonight still on the air I want that show been on the air like fucking 25 years the air. I don't know, I show up in the air like 25 years or something. I don't know. Yeah. Crazy. People want their celebrity gossip. It seems like a TV show like that would be outdated by the internet. You'd be surprised, man. I bet there's a lot of households in America every day.

It's a big debate. Are we going to watch entertainment tonight? Or are we going to watch Wheel of Fortune? Because those are always out at the same time. And they're always those syndicated. You would think so too, but like that fucking TMZ show apparently it's huge ratings so that's fucking guys and that is like the hardest thing that's stupid really tough to watch it's really yeah a guy came to me and said you can lob a hand grenade anywhere you want once it might be the set of team the next

of that blonde surfer dude. Yeah. They were playing it in the fucking there. I was getting a prescription which I should change. You guys last night at H.E.B. and there was on God damn it. I just wanted to change the channel so I was fucking terrible. And there were like seven people watching it. That was like I still recognizable. I don't know.

It's him and the guy who stands on the edge of the queue. Harvey Levin. Yeah. That's the guy's name. I think that server. He's always making like a water bottle. He must walk around and pub like a people go. I know I hate that guy for so much. I've never wanted to punch a stranger before.

I just got a douche chill and I don't know exactly why. Did you run over my dog? Hey, if you guys, before we go any further, you guys know I'm getting my butt searched tomorrow. And I'm so really excited about that. yeah, but when you go into the doctor, I'm in the schedule after the blood search, I'm in the schedule of the doctor appointment next week. No, and so I have to do all this crazy medicine. I went and filled the prescription last night. Do you want to see what the prescription was?

Yeah, is it a giant suppository? This is my medicine that I have to take today. What is that? That is a gallon? Gava light in it's a thing that makes me poop a lot and I have to fill this up with Four like four gallons of water and then drink this in 30 minutes. Wait wait wait You can't drink four gallon or I don't know. I want to be a gallon four course. I guess it's four chords So you have to build that up four times. You just fill that up one I just filled up once. Okay, but I have to drink it in like 30 30 minutes It's probably a gallon. I mean, there's a way you can drink it in 30 minutes. Yeah, we'll see you on bet

Just put it in a this is a Tito's bottle and he'll have no problem This is also the third this is the third thing I have to drink. I have two things to drink before it and Then this like to what Jeff's holding up Jeff is holding up this huge like Plastic jug that has some kind of white powder in the bottom of it. Yeah. And all these medical labels on it. It looks like something that you would find in an organic chemistry lab.

Yeah. It does. Yeah, it does. Like it should have one of those like diamond warnings that are the mac and semi-trust. Like MSDS. Yeah, it tells you if it's explosive or if it's caustic. Yeah. And you have to drink this.

I have to drink it this afternoon. You have to lunch. I get flavor packets. It has a flavor packet. I get lemon. Or do you get your selection? Is there a selection? I do.

There is. And I think the other one is... I hope it's cherry. If you have to select a flavor in like for toothpaste or you know the dentist or whatever, what's the flavor that you always choose? Oh cherry. What do you choose? I usually choose grape.

Grape is better than cherry, typically. I do you choose? I usually choose grape. Grape is better than cherry, typically. I do bubble gum. Bubble gum is good. Bubble gum is good. I get the choose between lemon, orange, and cherry. I never choose lime, anything. I love grapes, but I hate fake grapes.

Purple. Yeah, that purple taste. Purple flavor. Interesting that you would bring that up. I'll come back to that in a little while. OK. And just like I like cherries, I love fake cherries. Red flavor. Awesome. Oh yeah. I actually like purple flavor better than grape. I think.

Oh just FYI, I'm not going to be in the office tomorrow. Yeah. Good. Yeah fine. If you drink that, please leave the office. I'm not going to. Apparently I won't be able to drink this and leave the office, so I'm going to have to go home and drink it. Yeah. You're establishing a new office in that. Make sure you keep a log. Yeah. A log with my logs. Yeah.

Sure grits up to 90 million against $38 million budget. That's got to be the most successful Cullen Brothers show of all time. Maybe so. I think that, gosh, I'm going to say, oh brother, where art that was or maybe a serious man, they did like 60 million. They're not a big box office. I don't think a serious man did that amount of money. Tron has made $133 million against $170 million.

I've heard rumors that that budget was actually much higher than $170. I believe it. I've heard rumors that they spent close to $300 million we developing technologies and working on stuff. Digital domain, which is a big, visual effects house, just put out a real of how they did a lot of the effects.

And if digital domain is doing that That means they put a lot of that. That's a James Cameron. Yeah, if they're developing new technologies They can make that money back with the movies in the future, right? You would think I know that I didn't know that Let me double check that I have to tell the main the guys that did a starring night for Halo. Yeah, yeah I have to I have to admit something I had a conversation with Jack before Tron came out like around mid of like around E3 of last year I'm sorry, and I'm gonna yeah What he can do I work sitting off of them, but I told him that there was no way Tron would make more than $75 million

Oh really and he doesn't remember that but he can totally make fun of me now because it definitely did I didn't think it would do as well as it did yeah digital domain was. Digital domain was founded by James Cameron, Scott Ross, and Stan Winston. Okay. Well, there you go. There you go. That's your bit of VFX trivia for the day. I'm glad to hear that James Cameron is making them money somehow. Thanks for getting out of the way. Turned something profitable. By the way, I don't care what he says. The the the chicken tron who plays the like all white girl that's the hangs around with Zeus. Their name is Jim. that might be one of the hottest women on film you know No, normally I don't think Olivia Wilde is that great looking but I thought she looked awesome in Tron

What's her name Quora? Yeah Which is like I don't go back in Tron, but there's nothing about it means like there's a whole Middichlorian subplot Yeah, when they when they were the announced that thing but the whole I missing that, I was like, I literally rolled my eyes in the theater. I was like, really? And they don't buy like, it's just supposed to take it at face value. It's like, there's no explanation for this.

Anyway. It just happened. It just sprung on its own. It's like, really? Yeah, yeah. It's just even like they were trying to add too much stuff into this. And then the nightclub happened.

And that was so terrible. I mean, we forget about the other stuff. Is that the scene with the wannabe David Bowie did? Yeah, that's Zeus. Yeah. I thought she was a pretty good actor. That part? Terrible part though. I mean but it's like you take all the bad stuff from movies that you hated, sci-fi movies like the middiclorians and star wars, they had those in tron, the merivingian from matrix which was like that's what he is, he's the merivingian they have that scene from matrix 2 they stuck in tron. They could

have that tron 2 could have been literally twice as good if you would have just cut that character. Matrix 2. I'm sorry, Matrix 2. Yeah, I mean it's just... But that being said, do not put the Mirror of Engine in Tron 2. And then they, you know, essentially, you know, Jeff Bridges character, the Flynn character, is essentially a cross between the architect and Obi-Wan Kenobi. So they're gonna make another Tron now, right? They've left some very big hooks open, I thought,

for a sequel. I think they set up what could be a much better third movie. If they put in Dylan Jerson, who's, what's the kid's name? Celine Murphy. He's the kid from... Oh, yeah, 20 days later. 20 days later and the...

Sunshine movie. The Scarlet Crowley played. Yeah. They're, yeah, they also, I don't want to dwell on it too much but they also telegraphed a lot of like twists early on way too much Sure in that movie that's all say about that like Flynn was a father All right TV show of the year I'm gonna go first all right. Can you listen categories? Yeah, all right modern family breaking bad madman It's always sunny lost walking dead Louis and I'm gonna say breaking bad, madman, it's always sunny, lost, walking dead,

Louis. And I'm going to say breaking bad. Very, very tough category. A lot of... I was like, based on the first episode of Breaking Bad, so I don't feel like I can really vote for that. But I can see that that is probably a tremendous show. The good show.

I liked it a lot. Obviously. I thought this was the age of the internet and TV was over, but every show you just mentioned is awesome. I think every one of these shows I watch of the internet TV was over but every show you just mentioned is awesome I think every one of these shows I watch on the internet what should we have what I was gonna say I watched it on the internet too I guess I do too close to canceling cable if my wife didn't watch cable news. I would be out of my house My Apple TV is like my favorite thing in my house. It's awesome. I know there's no way it's gonna win, but I'm gonna say Awesome, I know there's no way it's gonna win, but I'm gonna say

Now I'm gonna go with modern family all right good show. I was gonna say Louis but I'm gonna go with modern family Louis awesome. I think I'm gonna go with always sunny, alright I have to be a side boat. I love it. There's absolutely no way that I would vote for anything besides modern family Modern family is incredible. Oh, yeah I just, not even Mad Men? Not even Mad Men. No, not even Mad Men. And this season of Mad Men was really awesome, but it's just, you know, modern family is also has the benefit of being a lot fresher

because it wrapped up its first season in 2010. They immediately went into a second season and then halfway through that. I think it's a tremendous show. I think that's why it's so funny. I mean, it's a great show, but I watched literally like 36 episodes in the span of like four or five days.

It's funny because it helps. It does help a lot. What season have you been watching at the house? We're on season two right now. I mean, that was so, I don't, yeah, I haven't seen this season yet. No, this is this is season two. Yeah, the last episode was a dance revolution.

And you've seen that. That's where they go. I feel like I'm starting to see modern family influences in TV ads now. Like there's an ad for Pizza Hut, where I feel like the family in the ad is trying to be like the main family. The Dumfies?

Yeah. I also say the cool thing about modern family is it's getting progressively better every couple episodes. I wrote off park and recreationers. Park and recreationers. Park and recreation. Park and recreation. I wrote that Park and Recreationers, Park and Recreationers. Park and Recreationers. I wrote that off as an office knockoff, the moment I started watching it, and I kind of

did the same thing with Modern Family the first time I watched an episode, which if you can get past that, it's a really great show. I think it's a... It kind of goes into it. I mean, I think that the first episode felt like that, but it came into its own more. Especially the Phil character. Yeah, the Phil character. Phil used to be such a Michael Michael Scott early on and now I think

I feel like he's broken out of that a little bit yeah I mean yeah but he's still he still does feel the way it times you know especially those moments of genuineness that he has they feel very Michael Scottish I bet Ron Howard hates that show because he put out the parenthood at the exact same time which is essentially the same show and nobody gives a fuck about that show. The back shepherd. Yeah, with that shepherd and that dude from... Have you seen it?

Have you seen it? Yeah. Have any of you seen it yet? I saw it like two episodes. I like that. It's a little more dramatic. So Modern Family wins. Modern Family.

Here's your recommendation. If you want to try to get into Modern Family, I'd recommend either the Halloween episode from season two. Oh, it's great. Or Airport 2010 from season one. Yeah, one of those. Airport 2010. I would say the Halloween episode.

Also the beeping episode. I don't know what it's called. Oh, the one with the smoke. It's called the chirp. The chirp. That's up pretty good. Yeah. They're both really good.

I just really like the Halloween episode. The Halloween episode is one of the funny things I've ever seen. It was great. Good stuff. But every other show is great. Always, we sunny great show. Yeah, yeah That was a good category. There's a lot of good TV shows. It's always sunny over for the season Are they done hard to figure it out? I feel like always sunny like it's one of those shows that everybody watches and everybody likes

But it never had like that critical mass. Yeah of everybody discovering it at one time and you kind of see the value of being on a network in that case Like everyone I know was something for like two or three years to watch always sunny. That I would really like it and I just never watched it. And then you guys started watching it and liked it. And then I finally watched it like six months later and said, oh, this is great. But you already talked to you because you're like, yeah, we know. Yeah. Season six wrapped up on December 9th.

Okay. Yeah, it seems like a good episode to wrap up on D gives birth. Yeah. That was a pretty good episode. You know what? I'm going to, I'm going to learn to like Madman. If enough people like it, I got wrap up on D gives birth. Yeah, that was a pretty good episode You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna learn to like madman if enough people like it I gotta get past that first episode. I'm gonna watch it I you know I was thinking about that when I was in true grit Were you turned off by true grit because it was such a racist movie?

Because I knew you were going to see it and you returned off my madman because it was too sexist. I wasn't I Think it might be the fact that I'm I have a daughter more than anything They bother you about it. If I had a black daughter. Maybe that would true. It would have been He's also from Alabama. I am a great segue to her next That would be awesome. Anyway, I'm determined to like madman and breaking bad. I'm going to watch them both. I'm going to get into the next season of Breaking Bad. It's hard to April.

If you want to catch up before then, so we can win in 2011. The thing about those shows, and you love the shield, it's like you sit and you have a heart attack essentially right now or whatever. And you end up like like I don't know It's just so tense. Yeah, I don't know if I can do that for entertainment all the time No, I don't know how you do it. Yeah, just drink Look at how many other sorts of walking bed were there? Seven I think I had on my computer was a million more than I thought it was like ten

I'm gonna get I'm gonna yeah, okay. I know that it was more than I thought it was like 10. I'm gonna get I'm gonna yeah, okay. I know that it was 10. I think it might be I think it might be mobile and send I'm I my inclination was actually to say six as well. And they're coming and they're definitely coming back for a second season of walking dead. It's interesting. It's only writers right? No, I think that I think they that they was a rumor or maybe he tried to fire them and then you know they got six million viewers for the finale. So they said guess what we going to keep the band together.

Yeah, it's six. Yes, six. Okay. It's interesting that American TV is starting to emulate the release cycles and schedules of British TV, like now having television shows that have six episodes. I would say more so it's starting to emulate the soprano's model. Yeah. Well, that was kind of like a midway point, right? Halfway between the thing I always associate with British television is that there seems of like a midway point, right? Halfway between. The thing I always associate with British television is that there seems to be a finite amount of episode

and they're just gonna make that amount no matter what. Like two seasons and that's it. It almost feels like it's some sort of a law in England that you can have two, two six episode seasons and then one Christmas special and that's it. Well then they start running into the episode tax. I don't wanna try to avoid that. Unless your grandfather, like Dr. Who,

and then you have 40 seasons. Yeah, I'm kidding. Oh, man. That's a good show though. It's really good. Millie loves it. Yeah, she does. DLC of the year.

Wow, that's a tough one, man. No, it's not. Can you? The candidates are Bioshock 2, Mass Effect 2, Red Dead Redemption, Borderlands, Lifer Dead, 1 and 2, Hela Reach and Cataclysm. Cataclysm. Cataclysm. Mass Effect 2.

Red Dead, man, that was a massively awesome DLC. Should we start eliminating things here? No, we just want Cataclysm. We just kind of, Cataclysm is just one. Oh, you just voted for it? Yeah, we both voted for it. We both voted for it. Yeah, well, why do I even have a vote? You and I just give you a list of what to vote for.

I'm going to make the decision. All right, all right, all right. You guys are making fun of me. Listen, I sent, I'll be the first to admit it. OK, I was having a bad day and I sent a nasty email to Gus over the holidays. But I will say as soon as I sent it, I texted. I aimed him in a polygist.

Yeah, but then he bitched me about three hours about how I knew I knew where. You were? No, I did. I was totally normal. He called us to you. I was a jerk and I apologize. I apologize publicly on the podcast to all of our listeners. I'm sorry about the email.

The very terst nasty snippy. I'm most embarrassed that it was snippy. It was awesome. I'd like to do a dramatic reading of Jeff's email. We were we were we were setting up. I said, how about we just start making cuts so that we have the ability to discuss less choices and the talk to talking about the awards and the awards. So the podcast isn't bogged down, which is already

is. So how about this? Everybody submit two from each section to cut. If people feel strongly, they can veto a cut. Here's my cuts, and I listen to some stuff. And then Jeff cut something that Gus wanted to vote for. So Gus said, I have to veto that cut. And then Jeff wrote, I don't do my job.

And what is the point of voting in the first place? Either I have a vote or I don't. Why don't you just pick the nominees, then you decide what are important and leave me out of it then Didn't never problem with the veto till history's got vetoed well I will say that when you read it like that it sounds bad It's all about context it is totally about context you can't take something from the internet and how it's when I it was It was much more effervescent when I wrote it. I'm good. I'm going to do your internet voice for it The internet voice would have been appropriate

I'll try to get the voice point When you read it like it's a YouTube comment. It's way better I say it was a bad day because Griffith I don't know what was going on There's something must have been going on because Griffin wrote me a nasty aim too. We did this interview. I didn't even know. I didn't interview for a immersion, which ends today, by the way, our last episode, airs tonight at RootShotit.com.

So, Brian and I did this interview with a blog where we talked about immersion and we went on this like five minute cock sucking ass kissing. You guys were glowingly positive of Griffin. Like talking about how awesome Griffin was. It It was basically like Griffin is the second coming of Christ. She's the reason why this show so great she designs all the stuff she's amazing I can't believe it and then she writes me goes you know we didn't buy those costumes from that place you guys get your information right. That's all stick away she took away the whole thing I would be embarrassed to play it

right now. Oh my god. How complimentary we were. I appreciate the the accurate compliment, compliments, but what's a compliment? Confirmation. Confirmation. Confirmation. All right. But no, okay, here's the thing. Well, we had an episode and I know, okay, I know I was a little bit. But we had an episode where it was all focused around costumes. And I was up until five in the morning or like five thirty in the morning, making them them and then I got up like at 6 to like take a shower and get to get there and then like I'm making up the girls and putting the costumes on them

So I was up like making a Sam costume and then Brandon on the Why sleep for 30 minutes doesn't that do more harm than good? No, I know about head sleep because I had to be on camera I didn't look like shit So especially against two girls that had barely any clothes on so Brandon with Brandon was like, oh, we got everything online like shit. So especially against two girls that had barely any clothes on. So Brandon went with Brandon was like, oh, we got everything online. I know it wasn't just for me, but we are selling the shows short if we're talking about how we, because if we customize everything,

why say we buy it online if we don't? Hey, if it's not to change the subject, but if it makes you feel better, Bernie, she sent an email to Marshall that was way worse than the one she sent to you. Yeah, what did you send to Marshall? Oh, yeah, I don't want to talk about it. Marshall and I have worked out, worked it out. What did you say? What was it about? Everything your grades were out. No, because like, unless Friday, everyone was hanging out, like it was a relaxed day, because everyone was still kind of trickling back into town. Had a little barbecue.

Everybody was like playing basketball, drinking beers, and then I was there building Marshall's project because Marshall came, he got some stuff the other he wanted to make some kind of a rolling thing for camera. I'm like, all right, cool. So he asked me like about bending something. So then I started to bend it for him. But then he wanders off and then he keeps like giving me lists of things to do for this thing that he's building.

So I ended up building this whole thing for him, which is fine. But then I sent him an email asking him to proof book four because he could help with editing. So I sent it to him and he was like, oh, yeah, I forgot to grab it. I guess I'll just do that on Monday. And I was just like, listen, if you want me to help you with this like these props and you have to help me with before. So I apologize because I was kind of bitchy. And your email was that nice too. No, it was actually my email was worse, but dear asshole. I said, love you with these things. I made your track while you were playing basketball and eating barbecue.

I cut my hands twice. I didn't, I cut my hand twice. I didn't get to eat any barbecue because I was too busy making your... It wasn't that bad. Did you win the game? I hope you did. But here's the thing. I'm trying, this is one of my many resolutions for 2011.

I just wanted to do less shit talking and if I can be direct with people then I don't have to talk to everyone else about them Okay, okay, but I maybe I could be nicer about how direct I am yeah, baby It's hard to be nice and direct another thing that was inaccurate about what Brandon said He said I have a good attitude, which I have no idea where that came from I corrected him I know I know I do I said I don't want to vouch for the attitude. Yeah. And meanwhile, after this glowing review

we gave a different interview, I went on to berate you and Gus as being expendable and not important in the whole thing anyway. I didn't get an email from either one of you or an A&M. Oh, yeah, because who gets yours? Yeah. I know.

I know. I was a little moody. We all have our roles to play in the company. Yours is defensive. No, I have been a little bit moody lately. And and probably the last three so just kind of in bitchy So I apologize to every single person who's coming contacted me for three weeks I do want to commend Jeff on the excellent deflection though we started talking about I can't immediately threw it all on the ground. I'm not sure how that happened. I'm just like Jeff on Jeff

I am dude. They call me Jeff. I'm Jeff. Long. Jeff. Long. Yeah All right, we got one category left. This is this the big one game of the year I know every every developer out there's eagerly awaiting this kid once again. Can you get on the? Yeah nominees are Hila Reach Call of Duty Black ops starcraft to red dead redemption mass effect to Assassin's Creed brotherhood mine Minecraft, Angry Birds, and Heavy Rain. Man, can I tell you, I just played Black Ops over the weekend and beat it, start to finish

for some I played it, and I know it made a billion dollars, but not a very good campaign. That was fine. I really wasn't into it at all. It was a good campaign. I don't know. No quick thing, what was your choice for DLC? Just we have the other choices. I said Mass Effect 2.

I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Red Dead. Yeah, best DLC. Although Borderlands is a close second, because I think it was Mass Effect 2. We already gave other choices. I said that's fake too. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say red dead. Yeah, best DLC. Although borderlands is a close second because I think it was massive too. We already gave those books. I know, but I didn't actually see what my choice was. You guys already lost that one?

We were kind of, we were just talking about it. We should have other people out there as mentioned of what their choices are. That's why I wish the vote is red dead. Thank you, Shish. All right. For the third time, free now for the fourth time, Bernie's vote is for red.

I don't know if he ever did that. I have to write a text. So I'm gonna... All right. All right, so I gave her the year. Free now for the fourth time Bernie's vote is for red. I don't know. He ever did all right All right, so game of the year you you did not like black ops now I just I was underwhelmed by it. So you're not voting for them. No No, that's my video if I get a video. I'm gonna say massive to elect mass effect you so much It was a great game. It was a hard choice. There were some great games on that list. It ended poorly, though. Not to be a spoiler. It ended poorly. Griffin, it ended very classically like the second story in a trilogy where it's like, there's no ending. Right. It feels like.

Well, none of the games I play made the list, but can I just make it purely on observation and art and all of that? Yeah. Access and securityge Brotherhood is beautiful and I actually plan to play it because it looks awesome and really fun So I'm gonna vote for that, but I know that my would vote. Maybe shouldn't count for it Yeah, fuck it your whole counts. Okay, good point. There's so many gamers out there They're mad right now because I'm in on the voting Man, I'm over Halo reach I played that game more than anything else this year and it's you know after 10 years of playing that game I'm still playing it, you know, and this was a great version of it. I'm about trailer reach. I look at it from a

I had the most fun in a campaign with Assassin's Creed But if I look at like the effect I had in the game industry and like I consume a lot of game the effect I had in the game industry and like, I consume a lot of game entertainment and media, then Minecraft and Reach by far surpassed anyone else this year, and I, as intrigued as I am by Minecraft, I haven't spent enough time with it to really get a sense of it. I think it's gotta be reached for me.

I mean, the fact that we were able to, like, you're able to do stuff like achievement horse in Reach, and it creates an entire new game, you know? It's just, there's nothing that compares to it. Well, it actually art wise, it's really beautiful too. Yeah, and I like fucking theater mode is still unparalleled. Like I've been playing around with the black ops. You can't even see theater mode anymore.

Yeah, just a playground. Yeah, just a playground aspect. Like there's some cool, there's some cool things they did in black ops, but like nothing compares to how robust theater mode and, and, and forage art. The ability to, and the ability to recam clips is what's unbelievable most unbelievable about it and share it with friends. What you talk about like Minecraft, what

Minecraft does really well is it does. An amazing amount of play with very limited mechanics and it's really surprising how much you get out of so little and on on a much higher scale what a reach is able to do on a console, it's just, it's not parallel. No, no way.

It's not parallel, it's unparalleled. We also talked about eliminating Minecraft from the list because technically it was an outfall year and then just entered beta before the end of the year. So really it hasn't officially released. Yeah, I can see that. So we could conceivably see it again in a future game of the year list.

Hey, let me ask you guys a question. I agree, birds, you yeah, we moved it into this year because it came out the end of last year That's another one. I wish we had a mobile category just so we could say that like angry bird Just the best all-time mobile game ever that game is so fun I mean, I'm mad at it still, but it was a really good game and it's sold like how many people played body angry birds I think it was like five to seven million. I think it was 50 million God speaking of Millions and millions and millions I read a stat that city village is launched that's like the the city version of farm bill and it had a sustained eighty four point two million players last month

that's crazy that's fucking crazy dude but eighty four point two million players so anyway i'd like to now announce the uh announce the launch of City View Hunter. Have any AAA titles started doing that like social media games or smaller versions of their games? There have been... Didn't Crackdown 2 has a Windows Phone 7 version of their game? Or like... There have been Tians.

Fable 3 had a Facebook game tie-in this year. Crackdown 2 had one where you like shot rubber duckies or whatever and you get experience and cracked on two. There's games that are making inroads into that market, but I don't think it's hitting a full way yet. It probably will soon though. I would imagine. Get him to make it. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, Angry Birds. I was on the airplane where we were flying back from New Orleans the other day and I looked down the aisle and I was right in the middle because I was on the aisle seat. were flying back from New Orleans the other day and I looked down the aisle and I was like right in the middle because I was like on the aisle seat. Like everyone on to the right of me and to the left of me, everyone was playing Angry

Birds. Like, really? Yeah, just everybody. Oh, that would have been a great picture. I know, I should have, I was just kind of in an awkward place I couldn't get, you know, stand on the other side of the city. Right. So you know what makes me mad when I see that, I think I'm better than all of you fuckers

and I have no proof because my save game got deleted. Mm-hmm. I spent so much time getting good at Angry Birds. Well, see, that, that kind of brings me to point that I always think about with Halo Reacher. The Halo series in general is that the reason why I would always nominate a Halo game, at least ones that are made first party

or made by Bungie or Microsoft, is that I so strange how often I think about Halo when I'm playing other games. Yeah, absolutely. Like features that are in Halo, it's like, why don't they have this? Why can't I take this game and build something with it? Why can I like an Angry Birds why can't I save my files? You know why can I post them and share them with other people? Why can't I make boot movies from them? Yeah, you take for granted all the stuff that they pack into that one disc

It's crazy and there's and there's like any one improvement they made would have been a great improvement on the game like But they just packed it with so many like you didn't think about like commendations by themselves are tremendous. I spent probably three weeks just focusing on getting commendations because they were fun to do. You know, you know, the turning halo in a way is that like people are focusing on different parts of the game. I don't know. Like right. It means nothing to me. And it means it used to be like you had your rank and that was the main thing in Halo. and now people are looking at different things all the time Like I mean there are some people who just spent all their time in the challenges the daily challenges the weekly challenges Yeah, and other people who just don't give a shit about that, you know or forwards like we still have yet to see the forage

Error of Halo reach which is gonna be awesome. It's just starting to to show up. I think like crazy like you saw you Saw that ski ball ski ball that somebody made. This is a ski ball. Dude, it's awesome. Dude, it's awesome. It's cooler than you can imagine. Yeah. Really fucking cool. That's the same thing that Minecraft has that where people are building their own stuff and that's really now a major part of the longevity of any game. We, um, you know, achievement 100 horse number five comes out today and there was all the maps are awesome and they're all clever, but there were two in particular in this episode that just blew my mind. There was one where a dude built a tube that goes straight up and you um at the top of it are two kill balls and right on top of the kill balls, Banshee's continually spawn

so that it rains down Banshee parts and then the mission like the the object is to take two Falcons and fly to the top and hit the kill ball and die and you're just constantly getting hit by Banshee parts and they knock you down so you're trying to go up and dodge and get to the top first and it was just like just that alone It felt like an entire game and it was fucking great and the fact that the way you're able to that's in the horse video today It comes out today the way they were able to forge that was just unbelievable And then like another one was a dude made a race track that goes all the way across four-dworld and it felt like a full racing game. Like he was able to design it in such a way like the fact that guys like knockout who are able to make things look so seamless and so like intentional like the game was designed for it.

This racing I'll show it to you guys will watch horse. It looks like something you would play in burnout. I mean it's fucking well maybe a little crazy joy ride because there's a lot of jumps and stuff but it's just unbelievable like not only the like the amount that you can do with the game, but how polished you can make it, if you spend the time with it, you know? Yeah, and I'll always have a lot of respect for those guys who were making maps in Halo 3,

like right at the end before Reach was coming out, and they were making perfectly curved tracks in the Halo 3 forge where they were. Yeah, that was a lot. And pulling all those bizarre tricks of like, spawning stuff at a certain time and holding something else in place. Because I know I just took tons and tons of time to get that stuff right.

Absolutely. The reach forage just makes everybody at that level. If they, you know, have a little bit of talent and a little bit of vision. It still takes a lot of time, but definitely easier now. That's the thing is, I think the longevity of reach will be greater than any previous Halo game. Well, I don't know. Halo 2 had a ridiculous, I mean, people would still be playing Halo 2 if they didn't turn the servers off.

But I just, I feel like there's, yeah, like the people, like, there's another good three or four years of people just coming up with better and cooler things to do and reach, you know? Yeah. So, big surprise. We like reach. We like Halo. But Halo reach. Yeah. I can't wait to see, oh, I can't wait to see our trophy in the trophy case. What? Are you sure you're gonna be, I think he'll go in the community table. Hey, what did we game of the year two last year? Last year was...

Left for dead. Yeah, yeah, left for two. Left for two. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah, you were right, because we sent it to Valve, I remember that. That was a great game. What do you guys, is there anything on your radar

for next year at all? A real fast before we get to that. I wanted to say, I mean, I mean, I need to bring this up for two weeks now. After I made those comments about Bioware, not having our trophy in their trophy case, or two weeks ago, I got an email from Bioware. Really?

Yeah, they said our trophy is actually indeed in their trophy case. It was moved out temporarily when they moved offices here in Austin, but that it's back in their hallway. And they said they moved out temporarily when they moved offices here in Austin, but that it's back in their hallway. And they said they had even emailed you to a picture of it in the trophy case in the hallway. Actually, we got a mail-

I got a picture of it on a desk. On a desk? Yeah, okay. Pictures as well. It says, I sent him a photo, probably displayed it, so you walk down our hall. You can, so I'll pick up. Towards the bathroom.

Yeah. We'll say, sorry about that by the way. So recanting, almost terrible things I said. I'm not trying. I think we should the bathroom. Yeah. Well, sorry about that, by the way. So recanting, almost terrible things I said. I'm not trying. I think we should complain about more things. Who do we have such reach? I've been looking at the upcoming games for 2011,

and it feels kind of like a letdown to me. 2010 felt like there were almost too many games to play. I agree. I'm really not. I guess people are excited for bullet storm. I really don't know much about that. Portal 2 is exciting, but other than Mass Effect 3, Portal 2, Uncharted 3, Mass Effect 3. Mass Effect 3 is the big one on the list, I guess. We're just entering into the time of year where we're going to start hearing about next holidays games. Yeah, I hope so. I felt like at this point in 2010, I think we've made

a comic about it. About there were like 44 AAA titles that were on on planning to come out and a lot of those got pushed the next year But just I just don't know you want to make any predictions about Duke Newcombe and how that will do I think it'll do pretty well That's coming out really soon isn't it? Yeah, isn't it your box took that over is that right? Yeah, yeah Yeah, isn't that your box took that over is that right? Yeah, yeah Good can eat my words on that. It's really soon I won't push that release day back. I'm sure I can't believe that there are that many Duke Nukem fans still around They're still clamoring for it like it's amazing to me that there's like still a fervor for it There's not there really isn't right there really isn't it's like snakes on a plane. Yeah, okay

It's just a joke that people are saying but there's no way behind it because when i think it didn't come i mean it was fun when i was a kid but i put it in the same category as like a leisure suit lary type game that was kind of like dated and like goofy bathroom potty humor that was appropriate at the time in the early you know pc gaming genre i guess and that i felt like i don't know i feel like that a game like that doesn't really have a place in gaming anymore when you have games like Mass Effect 3. I'm looking at a list of releases for this year and I'm still in January and there's two very obvious ones we forgot already.

Little Big Planet 2, Dead Space 2, both coming out this month. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Little Big Planet 2, I guess, I don't know, it's not really on my radar, but I didn't play the first one, but I guess I should probably check, I'll look at it. It's a good game. Those creation games are big and we might not be big PlayStation guys

But people on the PlayStation love a little big planet. It's supposed to be a big year for the PlayStation right because of Uncharted 3 and I think resistance 3 comes out and kills a new is it a new kill zone? Oh, I'm not sure. Yeah Xbox had a really good year Xbox Xbox had to have won the year. Yeah, I thought there's no doubt about that Well, I think the big stories that we just died off this year, I think I mean this was the year. Yeah, I thought there's no doubt about that. Well, I think the big story is that the Wii just died off this year, I think. I mean, this was the year where people were thinking. I read a really interesting quote on Kutaku that the guys that he's had trouble kind of defining

what's going on with the Wii, and he quoted some lady just from random, non-gamer who owns a Wii. And she said she wanted to buy more games for the Wii this year, but when she went and looked, everything just looked like video games. And it just goes to show that the people who bought Wii and played Wii games like we fit and all that, they weren't necessarily the video game typical video gamer, which is a good thing. And it leads to huge numbers. But I wonder what does the long term effect

of that console? Did Microsoft ever announce reports on how well the connect did? Like they had said that they were going to hit 5 million. That was their goal by the end of the year. Oh, last number, I heard it was like 1.5 million units after three weeks or something. They had they had broke 2 million I think, but they had like another 3 million to go and they said that they would they would hit it. I never heard of you a 5 million saying they were trying to yeah, which seems like we're really lofty to me. But you know what we've been playing a lot of connect lately. yeah, I don't ever think to turn that thing on, but we had a party, like a get together the other night, and as soon as our non-Rustrate friends

who maybe would consider casual gamers, I guess like Wii gamers, right? They saw connect and they immediately were like, can we play this? And they played it for like three hours, playing dance central at the time of the lunch. We've since had house guests, so we've been having people come over

to the house more regularly, and that it always seems to turn on like get turned on. So definitely a good party like a social thing to do. They have hit 4.05 million units worldwide as of the 14th of December. So they might have made it. Wow dude. That's pretty impressive. Dragon Age 2 is also 2011 by the way. Yeah, you hated that game though Big game though. I think if I didn't like it I mean there's still gonna be nice and obviously nice the old republic is probably gonna come on to this years or three Yeah, I'm sure I'll be excited about gears three when it comes out and I start playing it that this bio shock forever

Or whatever it's called yeah, yeah, I think that's supposed to be this year. I thought that was 2012 Is it I thought so rage man? They should not this should not be said more than Man, they should not three. This should not be. There's more than 12 months away. I agree. Or anything. I shouldn't doubt anything. There's more than 12 months away. Middle gear solid rising. Is that the Xbox game? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I can't. What is Captain America coming out? Cut technology. Is that coming out two years from now? I have no idea. I don't know. I see production stills all the time from it though. Yeah. And you're at about by our stock infinite. It's targeted for 2012.

So 2011, what are you looking forward to for movies? Anything there? Harry Potter Part 2. Oh, sense. Harry Potter 8. Yeah. The finale. Yeah.

For sure. It'll be really interesting. I'm not sure what's going on. What's coming. I'm actually excited about Battlefield Los Angeles a little bit. Because we saw so many posters for it at Comic Con and I didn't know if it was a game or a movie but either way it looked really intriguing.

The promotions worked. They're very happy to hear that. They did. They did. They didn't work in the case of Scott Pilgrim but they definitely worked at least for me on Battlefield Los Angeles. The movies can promote a Comic Con though. That's not exactly a great pedigree.

It's true. Like, did you go to Comic Con pedigree it's true like is your last year I think did you come with us here no I'm not gonna last year last year was all Legion like everything you saw is legal Legion or you're before yeah yeah yeah all that stuff last year with all Scott pilgrim I'm sorry I was thinking 2009 yeah the Legion stuff I remember the head they had banners everywhere for that movie and it's a good January you know visual effects last year I don't really remember that movie coming out is the new

Is the new JJ Abrams movie coming out this year? What is that nine millimeters? That was called or something like that? I don't know. Oh, I don't want the train teaser, right? Yeah. Oh No idea. Yeah, who knows All right, well, let's wait Okay, but before you do it's gonna okay sort of a subject changed that I've been I'm on to wrap up. Okay, but before we do, it's kind of a subject changed. But I've been on the Rooster Feast group, you know, the group that came to town and went to all the places that are mentioned on the Drunk Tank.

And they were recently put up a hole to see what percentage of places should be repeats, like going and visiting the old places that we've already talked about. But I think that we haven't really been talking about on the Drunk Tank lately, and I think it's because we moved south to where that's just mainly chain restaurants. We haven't been exploring as much. So I was kind of hoping that maybe the staff might start exploring places again and talking about them. I can't remember last time I went to a new restaurant. I know, like it's bad. So I'm just kind of want to put that out there. Like we should this year try to make an effort to

break out of our little like chain restaurant zone. Our New Year's resolution is to eat worse. Yeah, there you go. No, no, not, come on. Hey, should you mention an immersion immersion comes out there, right? Yes. Today is the last episode of immersion in this quote unquote season, because we don't plan to really make any more as we come up with other ideas, I guess we will make some.

But it's been a lot of fun to work on that. Griffin, it has been, and I want to make sure I phrase this. It has been a pleasure to work on immersion with you. I think everything went really well. This one we actually did, we did an extra segment to at the end of it, which was a lot of fun. So I hope you guys enjoy it. Griffin, I hope you enjoyed working on it. I've loved it. And I'm actually, I'm excited about whatever we do next. Hopefully there's something that I can be as involved in next. It's a... Hopefully your involvement can be marginalized in retrospect. I'll just say it.

I haven't spoiled every single one of you. Boy, you know that she's already preparing her email in Rebuttlty, right? Well, I was gonna be on purpose. Be careful about what you say. You don't want to write an ass email to yourself. But what you said. I will say that this immersion, I don't know how about you, Gus. But this was hands down the most fun to film.

Yeah. Hands down the most fun to film. Hands down the most dangerous to film yeah hands down the most fun to film hands down the most dangerous the most dangerous and also Easily I think I think it's our best episode the most fun to watch I think I can't wait to see the final version I'm hoping actually because they I've talked to the guys and there was so much b-roll that we took that hopefully we'll be making behind the scenes Video about it because I think that is actually in a lot of ways brand yeah I think that there should brand and told me that on food actually in a lot of ways. Yeah, I think that there should.

Brandon told me that on food, he told me he thinks he could do a 20 to 25 minute cut of outtakes and footage that they just didn't get to use in food. He said, and I don't remember this because I was fucking hung over and tired, but he said that there's about 20 minutes of him just filming Gus and I in the back of your truck while people were setting up in there, that he said, oh yeah. The funniest thing he'd ever do. We were just talking shit. We were just going to cry. We were just going to angry. I have no idea what that would be on that. There was some speculation

that we faked that you guys knew we were going to wake you up. No, God no. No. The only one thing is that like you woke us up and then you made us go sit in the back of your truck for a few minutes while you guys like got the lighting right I guess. Right. We told you out of your house. We had no idea what was going on. Yeah, we're sitting in the street. We're called this, we were sitting there speculating, like fucking exhausted. We thought when your neighbor was doing the walk of shame going home.

Dude, that was great. She had one shoe. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Wait, I should point out that we actually did reshoot the, the bar scene where I'm outside the bar. We reshot that later to a better setup because it was so hidden that the first time we shot it, it didn't work out that well.

When we actually took you guys out drinking the first time. Yeah, oddly enough, we didn't have trouble getting you back to the bar after that. Yeah, that I'm always up for reshitz. We should have done something to him. Yeah, you guys were skeptical the second time we brought. Oh, that's right. Man, my defenses were down. All right, well, let's let's wrap this up.

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