Rooster Teeth Podcast - Rooster Teeth Podcast #99

Episode Date: February 2, 2011

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnet and Anthony Mackie comes the new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-octane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnet, and Thomas Hayden Church.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Twisted metal, streaming now, only on Pika. It's a great is podcast and you'll agree I'll find past time for you and me But maybe not for those under 13 as a kind of fucking curse So bring out your laundry and prepare your ears Runsuit's with spill and so will tears Gaves will be reviewed and lunch places too while will be mentioned. It's sad, but it's true So without further ado Here's a drum tank
Starting point is 00:01:15 podcast unplugged Accapilla ladies and gentlemen that was the debut of that white young Angelou from southern Ohio It was I guess it. It was funny. I got that same feel from it that an old time you've abroad or something about it. That was Chris Brown, I guess, he's on the comeback after beating up Piano. Of course. Wow. Okay, well, I got that good.
Starting point is 00:01:36 So that was a dude? That's all I said, Chris Brown. I don't know if it was Christine. You know the brown? I don't know if it was Christopher Brown. I don't know you were making a joke. Is it Chris? No, Chris of the K.
Starting point is 00:01:44 With a CH. All right. Maybe he was the producer. Hmm. It was something. That auto tune. Chris Brown. You can do stuff. Dude, I know all about that auto tune.
Starting point is 00:01:52 You do? Yeah, sex dogs, man. Oh, yeah, sex dogs. I'm a ringtone. Man, it's like we fucking set that up for the product placement. Yeah, so we did a short last week, which Matt calls me up. And he's like, hey, Jack, I need to come sing. I was like, what? And so it's like, do you like the who let the dogs out of stuff with sex dogs?
Starting point is 00:02:10 And I'm like, all right, sure enough, it's a ringtone now. I can never run for office. It's funny the way I found that script because they were trying to hide the script from me because I was having sex with dogs in the script. I think I was literally the last person in this office to see the script. I think technically dogs were having sex with you Yeah, you were actually quite adorable. It was hard not to like you know, it was weird Look as you brought Lincoln and Lincoln's your your dog He was in that day and he was he was eyeing you that's exactly how that day worked It was a text hey Bernie can you bring Lincoln into the office day sure?
Starting point is 00:02:45 Why don't worry about it? It's like that's all if it's that hey I need to put black all over your nose I said why she says don't worry about it. It's like what's the dog costume for guys? Don't worry about that. It's for later So it became a casketting things. I don't worry about it. And suddenly it was very very worried about it Yeah, the kind of ominously put that dog head outside of my door after we were done recording the podcast last week and we opened the door and there was just a giant decapitated St. Bernard head staring at us. You know, I do actually use now some of the pictures from that short as my actual head shot
Starting point is 00:03:16 though. Those are some good pictures. Yeah, they were fun. She definitely utilized. Well, it was a girl, Christina Brown. Christina Brown. They're verified. Okay. Speaking of girls, we have two new people in the podcast today. Hey, ladies, how are you? Why? At this point, Jack and Joel, while you're you're in the rotating seats, which is tell who you are and why you're in. I'm Jack. I'm here because Jeff is dead. Again, no, Jeff, about halfway through yesterday afternoon was just like, he looked like the plague had hit him. And I, I And I basically was like, Jeff, get the hell out of here because I'm going on a trip this weekend
Starting point is 00:03:48 and I was like, I don't wanna get sick before this trip. So, yeah, that's a very important trip. And I'm beginning to get concerned because there's like 5,000 flight delays this week. It's like 20 degrees here now. There's a snow storm apparently. Everything in the entire country. Yeah, we're staying, we're staying south though.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I don't think we'll, I don't think we'll be. Hopefully we'll not hit. We're trying to go to a lost, sunny lost Vegas as we can. Yeah, Vegas. Hey Joel, I'm gonna introduce himself at all. I'm Joel. That's Joel.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Joel needs no introduction. Joel's also joining us. What is there any special occasion? We're taking, we're just taking a trip for the hell of it. No, I literally booked a trip to Vegas just for the hell of it on Super Bowl weekend. Oh, that's cool Yeah, I know I didn't know like we're flying back during these during the game So you're gonna miss the Super Bowl cuz you'd be on a plane? Well, I hope who you're yeah You're playing probably will be fairly empty, right? It might be yeah, man. It's good strategy
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yeah, I don't know if the jets were playing we I think we watched the last playoff game It was like if the jets advanced then we talk about maybe stay until Monday just to watch the game there But I really don't care about this. Well really I mean what's gonna happen is the level of intoxication that we're at We'll probably determine whether we're staying a longer Yeah, I think we're concerned as well So those it all goes into the equation. I've actually been to Vegas during worst weekends by accident. One time I went to Vegas was the combo weekend of the consumer electronic show and the adult video news award. Which was the portal war.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yeah, so that would have been the second weekend in Vegas in January, right? Right, I think so. I just had to know. I've gone there during every single convention except for that. Really? Yeah. The other one I was there for, which scared the shit out of me. I just had a good one. I've gone there during every single convention, except for that. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:26 The other one I was there for, which scared the shit out of me. I think I went with you. Yeah, I went with you at the same time. We were there Friday, Saturday, Sunday. We had already been there at least 12 hours. And we've been sending emails all the stuff. We find out it's the same weekend as DEF CON, which is the big, huge hacker convention.
Starting point is 00:05:44 We're all in this. Yeah, I really like your iPhone. We turned off our phones and our laptops and never brought them out again. I mean, it makes sense, right? If you're in the hackers' convention, that's probably, you know, that's where you want to go. You get like a lidline bag and throw your electronics into it. So, supposedly these guys who I just want to say are the greatest people in the face of the earth. Yeah, the good people. Yeah, exactly. They're sexy and they're with it and love. And then all that.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Okay, don't go too far. All right, let's do it. Don't get to start. Don't mock them. So we they have this thing apparently, which is the wall of shame that they put up at the convention, which is people that they've hacked while they're at the convention and how much of their data they can then print out and put up on the wall at the convention. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:29 And you're there walking in a Vegas with your, you know, Wi-Fi enabled phone and all of this. You're like, yeah, this is great. Look, I found a free hotspot. Yeah, I mean, free public Wi-Fi. Yes, please. Yeah. I don't even, you have me scared.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Gus has me scared of the point where I won't even enable the Wi-Fi function on my phone at all I guess that's the right move. Yeah, I fucking I don't use it don't don't connect to anything Ever ever in any way you know the whole fire sheep thing kind of died, right? No one seemed to care about that after Well Facebook I think is rolling out secure log in procedure to get around that but I think is rolling out secure log in procedure to get around that, but I heard they're making HTTPS that you can set it as your default connection. And your profile. Yeah, that's what I've heard. Right, right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:13 But yeah, I mean, it's still a big deal, but no one's talking about it. I mean, I feel like when I'm connecting to Facebook, I'm more worried about the, we're more worried about Facebook stealing my information than a hacker, but I guess they're both, you know, I don't know what you got it. We've already got it. Yeah, I mean, it's just information than a hacker, but I guess they're both, you know, I don't know what you're doing. We've already got a deal. Yeah, I mean, it's just, well Joel, you and Gus have ruined Facebook for me, especially,
Starting point is 00:07:32 because you guys go on there and accept every single goddamn friend request you ever get. And I try to keep Facebook just people I actually know. So you don't feel special? What, that they accepted your friend or a friend or a friend or a person or a person? No, no, no, it's not that. You don't want to be popular. I'm
Starting point is 00:07:45 defraining Jack. The problem is like I show up on their related friends or whatever. So whoever like we love fans will just throw a friend. You know, you can pretend like Facebook has like some sort of social interactivity for you that I stay off of Facebook. I check Facebook about why are you bitching them? The thing I'm never on sucks for me now because you guys You're the reason why I guess the reason why I mean, I you know the only reason I'm on Facebook is because You know, there's there's people who I know from a long time ago or whatever
Starting point is 00:08:17 There's people that you know that are on Facebook or whatever. Yeah, so but I mean that's about it. I'm not really I'm nothing really to say I like cross-pony risk to teeth productions Yeah, it's like I even want to try I want to try some of those social games just because they're so huge Yeah, they're so huge now that it's like if you don't know what's going on with that That's you're maybe missing something there's not much money But it's like it's just like that great video that you guys say you know where you try and get in there And it's like there's no there's no way to get in there Without you know, it's like really yeah, I don't know if that was complete thought by Joel
Starting point is 00:08:50 But I'll go with it. I'm gonna understand. It's a complete feeling and that's what's important Yeah, the whole thing. I mean, I remember when the Facebook like games started when they released their API And suddenly is like you've been bitten by a vampire and it's like Block you are now aware of block and just had to block all that shit. Yeah after you block it for a bit They don't see that shit anymore. Yeah, I yeah, I feel like and then there's like you know if you have like 500 friends There's always like those seven. Yeah, we're just gonna just tag you and there's nothing you can do stop It's like an aunt you don't really talk to but suddenly she wants the superpoke you all the time. Yeah I think I saw I think I saw porn about that once on cinema acts about someone superpoking their aunt.
Starting point is 00:09:30 It took some kind of I don't know. Oh technology. So I've never really had a Facebook account and I don't really I don't understand how I'm funny because you're your your friends with you seven times. I know I had a really stupid thing where someone was posing as me on Facebook which which I am not. I have even close to being famous enough for that to happen. Yeah. And yeah, the guy told me he thought it was a big joke and I was like, well, you're doing what? He said, yeah, I have your account. And I was talking to one of your friends from high school. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you? The guy said to me like at a, at one
Starting point is 00:10:02 of these conventions. He's like, yeah, I was just he had friends of people we do business with on that account and he would just repost stuff from my blog on Richard's on my Facebook account and talk quarter. I don't know what he was talking about because I don't have actually account. So he's talking to people I knew from high school or whatever. What a fucking maniac dude. That guy's a fucking lunatic. So I finally had to get a Facebook account just to hold it in place. Yeah. And that drives me crazy. But I've never I've never I don't know what that wall makes no sense to me. No, that's just gotten so cluttered on that side now What was the gifting thing where people could give you gifts and stuff too? That's that's gone. I think is it yeah, yeah, they gave you like a present
Starting point is 00:10:36 Yeah, they or you could buy a present and give it to people, but there were some that were free that were sponsored It's Facebook's a weird thing where it's like this private company that's getting hyped like crazy and like the Wall Street machine is basically trying to prep this thing for its IPO. And I'm telling you a year from now, two years from now, Twitter, LinkedIn, Facebook, it's gonna hit the market, it's gonna be like,
Starting point is 00:10:59 it's gonna be like, it's gonna be crazy. Yeah, I don't know how people wanna go into it, but this isn't Goldman Sachs like pre-selling shares of Facebook. Absolutely. They call it like dark market or second market where like you can invest, you can invest in Facebook if you want, but it's like there's no,
Starting point is 00:11:17 Facebook has no responsibility to do it forever. You don't get to see their financials and you have to commit to them for like a minimum of six months to a year or whatever. So for them, it's great. Didn't these people see the social network? Don't they know what happened? That's almost like that's part of the hype machine where it's just like, you know, release a movie. And then they were running into a regulatory problem so they're like, oh, don't worry, we won't let anyone in America do it. So it's only foreign investors who are allowed to get in on this. See, Joe, this is I think the average person's problem with the stock market.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Is that there's two transactions in the stock market. You can buy a stock and you can sell a stock. Somehow Wall Street has turned those two very simple transactions into an infinite amount of products that makes no sense at all. Like when we had the big collapse. Well, in a way they're a genius because what they do is they design a machine that only they understand. Right. So then when the machine breaks, the only people you can hire to fix the machine are them. Hey, that's really like a lot of people who should be going to jail,
Starting point is 00:12:18 but instead, well, we have to hire you to help fix this. You just described my job at this company. I was going to say, get to describe Gus's job on the website It's unbelievable. I mean people who saw the that collapse coming were like I see the collapse coming me went to like a lot of the firms like Told them about it. And what are the firms do? They're like well, we'll just make a product We'll make it we'll make insurance. They didn't understand their own product We'll make insurance our own product and sell that to you Yeah, like they know you know We'll make insurance. They didn't understand the real product. We'll make insurance our own product and sell that to you. Like they don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:46 In case your company fails and we have no money, we'll pay you insurance based on us not having money. Brilliant. Like Goldman Sachs knew, and they sold it. I see when you drag me into this conversation, you can get it right. But they sold it to AIG. AIG is these idiots.
Starting point is 00:12:59 It's all idiots that I will buy it. We don't understand it. We won't buy it. Like help me out here. What was the thing that they were trading right before the collapse that was buying all the bad dead essentially? What was that? Yeah, that was the insurance. What was the sea? I can't remember the CDOs There's some term for that. You're right right and they outlaw the sale of those within about two weeks All the companies like they were all saying well we had to sell them because everyone else was selling them We didn't have a choice right. Yeah, we had to compete and it's like okay, well, these are all legal
Starting point is 00:13:24 It's like okay, well we're gonna introduce this new product which is exactly the same fucking thing under a different name And then they were all doing it again within two weeks. It's it's a weird thing. It's the best gaming podcast ever We're gonna be a game of that. I'm gonna point everything. Money's point. It's my friend's life. There you go the ultimate game Okay, let's go back to security thing because there's there's a question I've always wanted to ask you guys. Okay, when I'm surfing, my total legitimate sites that I surf when I'm not in the office, occasion I get like a pop under or something like that that comes up underneath my browser window. And then I go to close that browser window,
Starting point is 00:13:59 and then I get another pop up that says, are you sure you want to navigate away from the site? If you want to navigate away from the site if you want to navigate away from the site click Okay, and if you don't you want to stay here great deals hit cancel like a dialogue message from your operating system or the browser as opposed Into like a website which is like the same as hey, do you want to install this garbage software or this virus on your computer hit Okay, but it just says do you want to stay on the site or date? It says do you want to leave are you sure then hit okay or if you want to stay on the site or date? It says, do you want to leave? Are you sure that hit okay or if you want to stay, then hit cancel or they'll do it. Where it's like, are you sure you want to leave?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Hit cancel to leave or okay to stay? Yeah. I'm convinced no matter what I make, I, if I see that dialogue box, I turn off my computer because I'm convinced whatever button I press, you're lost. You're already in the, you're in the box. Yeah. It's like, thank you for bank account information.
Starting point is 00:14:47 I hate those. We'll be talking to your high school friends. I think in theory with if a browser is insecure or your computer is insecure, yeah, they might be able to install some kind of like, you know, maybe active X applet or like internet explorer that would cause you problems. But I think for the most part if you're using a
Starting point is 00:15:06 Secure browser well like up to date you should be okay If you're on that though, I'm still the way I'm still confident now if you're on a Mac though You should never enter in your now your local computer password anytime your browser in the way, right? I mean, and then if you're using a Mac it should prompt you for your password before it installs anything anything at all Right, okay, so you're probably okay unless you're in Las Vegas during Defcon Yeah, no kidding right in which case you're fucked we should be turning on any computers one more Vegas anyway I mean really yeah we should be We should be stable just the hip one that's hidden under my pants leg caps my leg caps your leg once you try God running rainman a whisk and this county County car just got a vacation to get that what do you guys play when you go to Vegas like once you're twice. God. Run in Rain Manowish. Emma's County County Card. Just kidding.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I can't even get that. What do you guys play when you go to Vegas? What do you look forward to playing? I like to play. I love to see. I love to see. I live with the pit boss. This is like a second time now where I go to Vegas and I sit there at the table and I
Starting point is 00:15:59 go and they're like, we love you. Take our executive host guard. And then like when I call them they're like, oh no, we can't. Sorry. They just don't don't know they're on you are a problem so you spent a lot of money last time we went and you got a pitboss's card right and you you know what senior executive host card what happened when you tried to email nothing no it bounced oh about it's why I emailed him several times just they don't want it they don't want me I don't like me so here's you probably explain for some of our other viewers, there might not
Starting point is 00:16:25 be a gambling age. How this works is that you go to Vegas. I'm not sure this is going to be too boring. You lose an extraordinary amount. No, people don't know this. Vegas is never more. Coming off of the Goldman Sachs conversation, I think we're probably okay. You lose a ton of money because you're trading with the old exacts.
Starting point is 00:16:38 You can't lose money, but it's basically the amount of action you give them. So in other words, the amount of dollars that you put on that table, you can win or lose It doesn't really matter, but the amount of money you put on your loose. They like it when you lose They figure the longer you sit at that table the more money you put on the table eventually they're gonna get you cuz statistically Yeah, actually a volume there actually I would say probably you don't win a lot of money You'll probably lose more in the long run than if you like your first trip to Vegas if you win 10 grand As opposed to exactly because you lose 10 grand you'll probably lose more in the long run. Then if your first trip to Vegas, if you win 10 grand, as opposed to lose 10 grand, you'll never go back.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Statistically, it's like funny because statistically, the best odds you can get is like the house is 51% or something like that, 51.5, and you're like 48.5 or something like that. And so the longer you sit there, they think they're going to make the money. Guess how much one of those black, average, guess how much one of those black jack tables makes an hour. Makes in terms of people losing their money to the table. Yes, okay. We're talking about a table on the strip there. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Am I playing on the set? I'm gonna say it makes, I'm gonna say it, I'm gonna say 500 an hour. I'm gonna say a thousand. Wait, $500 an hour or a thousand dollars? I mean, $500. They told me, and this is after talking to several people and vetting this, you're not going to believe it, because it's hard to believe it, but they say $40,000.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Oh, get out of here. I've said a blackjack table, so an hour? I don't know if that average is out against a higher table. Yeah, but that's probably the average. I mean, the tables that they don't let us get close to. Think about some of those blackjack, not the blackjack tables. See, that's some of those crap tables. You just got all those people. Oh, no, no, no, like, the first time I ever went to Vegas, like, I was, I was playing crap in this one table,
Starting point is 00:18:14 and it was pretty full, because it was like a $10 minimum, some like that. And there's a table behind this, it was reserved. I was like, that's kind of weird. And eventually, guy showed up, and I looked over, this guy had brought a stack of about $250,000 for the chips And he was playing by himself on a craft stable and I would look over at any one point He'd have like 50 to a hundred thousand dollars on the day. It's hard to watch and it's just like I'm watching this guy's throw You know it's like oh, you know these chip colors. I've never seen the bar. Yeah, like the bars You know, it's like why is why is your chip colors? You're not allowed to know the name so I'm It's racing stripes. I've never seen their color racing stripes.
Starting point is 00:18:46 But it's like, you know, he throws down like one chips. Like, well, there's my entire college tuition right there. That little chip, you know, but, I mean, it's all relative though. You know, my $10 to me is, you know, nothing. There's like almost no worse feeling when you're saying there, it's like, I've lost all this money and then the sky is just like, oh, he just put down.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Oh yeah, like one chip, a one bet, everything I've lost. Or like drop a chip and it's like, oh, that $10,000 chip you just dropped on the floor is more than I'll ever spend in Vegas. Guys, they're trying not to embarrass me. That guy was me. Wow, I'm suddenly very impressed. I suddenly find you much more attractive
Starting point is 00:19:16 than I did two minutes ago. But okay, overall in Vegas, are you up or down, like around the room? I only remember the ups, so I'm way up and it's awesome. I figure I'm going to spend money and I'm going to lose money and I budget amount to lose every day. That's what you should do. And then I don't remember the losses because it's a trip, so it's like I'm up. Yeah, I mean, hey, let's look at this way. I'm down on every other trip everywhere else I'm going.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I mean, look at this. It's an excellent point. I like that land of thinking. Yeah, let's say you go to Orlando, Florida. You're in the hole. You're in the hole. You're not getting out. There's no, there's no fun. There's no. Dude, the first time I ever went to Vegas, I went there for my 21st birthday. Like I at midnight, I went and started gambling. It was great. My first night ever I was gambling. I made 750 bucks on a craft table. It was awesome. It's like what Bernie just said. Yeah, that first experience is positive. Oh, no, it's great. It was awesome. It's like what Bernie just said. Yeah, that first experience is positive Oh, no, it's great. It was great and you will chase the feeling of that
Starting point is 00:20:07 $750 for the rest of your life. I ended up coming. I mean, I even if you get the 750, it will only feels half as good I came back from that trip up like $2,500. Wow. Which is pretty awesome for a 21st birthday. Yeah. No, that's awesome So you're betting 1500 next thing you know you're the dude the table next you put none $250,000 on a hand there you go next thing after know you're the dude, the table. Next you put none, $250,000 on a hand. There you go. Next thing you have to that, you're in the dark market by Facebook pre-IP.
Starting point is 00:20:29 You're in the slippery slope, my friend. Dark markets, I'm like Harry Potter. You're gambling moves from Vegas to Wall Street. I like that you Wall Street says dark market because black market is like, that's clearly illegal. This is not black. This is dark gray, March. I can't see, but that's clearly illegal. It's not black. This is dark gray market. It's not a can't see, but that doesn't mean that it's not.
Starting point is 00:20:49 It just absorbs all the color. It's okay. I gave up on this dark market when I first heard the words after hours market. Who are the people that can trade when the market's closed? That's what I want to know. I can't walk in and go, I want to get some after hours trading. Look, oh, no, you're not that guy.
Starting point is 00:21:04 You know, you got to pay a cover chart. Those are the guys who sell speakers out of the back of their car right? No No, no, those are the guys that have like 18 of those guys working for them. Yeah, basically Jesus I had a guy knock on my door the other day selling magazines Did you really yeah? Yeah, I haven't had that in forever. Yeah off the space Well, I can adore the door salesman salesman. And he described to me his the program that he was a part of. And he just he essentially just described to me the definition of a pyramid scheme. And talked about how is the greatest thing ever to young guy. And
Starting point is 00:21:34 I'm like, what do I say to this guy? You know what I mean? It's like he's working. He's trying, you know, but it's just like, I it was so clear that he was trying to move up to the next level, you know? And then I guess he gets more thetons or whatever. You know, he was just like, I'm working here. I worked with this guy. He's got five guys working for him. And if I get enough points, they'll move me up.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And now I have five guys working for me. You know, you know, you know, it's frightening about that. It's like a lot of charities are sort of run that way, I think. I don't know if it's right or it's wrong. Have we talked about charities on the podcast? Yeah, we did like three weeks ago, I think. The Pono thing? We never mind that.
Starting point is 00:22:08 No, no, we talked to the Pyroman scheme though. We were talking about overhead. I don't know if it's a sorry pyramid scheme, but it's like the people who are doing the work take such a large percentage of the money that it's... That's not always the case, but most of the time is the case. Well, it's like I feel like I could go door to door and be like, I'm collecting money for Darfur. Yeah, yeah. I'm keeping 90% of the time is the case. Well, it's like I feel like I could go door to door and be like, I'm collecting money for Darfur.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Yeah, yeah. I'm keeping 90% of the money you give me and maybe passing on 10. You know, we were in the Boy Scouts. I was. I was in the Boy Scouts too. Anybody else? Jack. I was.
Starting point is 00:22:37 We were in the Boy Scouts. Okay. That's why I'm prepared. We did not sell cookies. We didn't write. We didn't sell cookies. No. We had a popcorn fundraiser when I was in the boy scouts
Starting point is 00:22:46 Didn't I mean I probably sold like five tens of popcorn and it wasn't even that big. I'm really sure all boy scouts did that Did you ever I never did that know I yeah, I can't remember. I don't think I did But we were never strapped for cash as the boy scouts. We still got our uniforms We still wait camp and all that stuff. Well, where the fuck does all that cookie money go for the girl scouts? Because they're not doing anything different than the Boy Scouts, but they generate a fuck ton of money for most cookies. Where is that going?
Starting point is 00:23:11 I mean, is that like cultural guilt engineered into America where it's like a little girl shows up your door and say, I'm selling cookies. Well, you have to buy it. You do. You pretty much do. I mean, somebody's gonna figure out a way to get
Starting point is 00:23:21 how to try. I mean, that's a business model. They're gonna train puppies to sell cookies that you're doomed. Yeah, I mean, that's the girl's contract. It's just shows up. It's got like a box, you know, and a collar. It's that high. It's got like a roll of thin men's on her's neck.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Buy this so I can eat tonight. That'd be great. That'd be great thing where you send a hungry dog to the door with a box of milk bones. The person has to buy the box of milk bones to feed to the dog. It's like the perfect system to make billions, but I really want to know where's where does all the girls gal cookie money go? You know, I never thought of it that way. I don't know who's making that money somebody's making that money the girls Girls, okay, the commission are they? I don't think so I can't remember when you join the boys guys you have to pay you have to pay You have to buy your uniform. I know that and I think there is a yearly do you like do's?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah, I guess yeah, that sounds right. I remember do's now that now that I set that word It might have been like a every meeting thing you had to take I remember I remember paying like do's but I think it was like to join the boys has like 50 bucks a year Yeah, it was like two bucks a meeting or something. Yeah, cuz that was during the depression so two bucks a meeting or something. Yeah, because that was during that depression. So long time ago, we're also There was many years ago. We also had to train with a rifle Just in case Hitler made it.
Starting point is 00:24:36 The National Guard was deployed in Europe at the time and We were maintaining border security. Please, please tell me in the Boy Scouts are still shooting off rifles. Please Please tell me I have a shot of rifle in the Boy Scouts. No, yeah, we had the rifle training. They've added things, but I don't think they've taken away too many things Isn't there an internet badge now? I think there is an internet badge. Wow Internet badge you have to download it It's digital you put you put it on your on your Evest what he did what he what he have to do we should look that up We have to find out what you have to do.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah, look at the internet badge. Troll 4chan. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon.
Starting point is 00:25:16 You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon.
Starting point is 00:25:24 You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to Defcon. You have to go to about the Girl Scouts outside of the cookie sales. Yeah, what are they doing the rest of the time? I think they're just gearing up for cookie sales. That's it. I guess they're making cookies. I might get it. Somebody's got to make all the things. I think cookie factories, where the girls go.
Starting point is 00:25:38 That's right. I always feel compelled to explain to the international viewers too. If they don't know what a Girl scout is or what girl scout cookies are Well, they're missing out, but there's this cult in America And they all dress in green and they're young. That's why they say you can't see them. They're each other on top of you They're the box of cookies. You know, no dude. I can't I don't want to say no They hang outside the grocery store. You're like and you're like girl scout met like you're you're in suburban like you're I am yeah They're everywhere they have they have high density in my area and it's they're they're just little girls like six to ten years old
Starting point is 00:26:12 And they sell either cookies door-to-door or now what they do is they camp outside of retail places all day and with a card table These two girls and like we want my cookies. You like I mean I'm in a box for like 10 cookies 10 cookies what is it it's a roll it's 350 yeah I'm like a loan dude doing my loan dude thing going to Vegas or whatever I like to think that I'm almost as far away from the Girl Scouts as I as someone could be but uh they're reach it doesn't matter there's always someone who knows someone like I don't actually see the Girl Scouts but they have like these adults adults they use and they come and they're like listen my uncle's niece's daughter whatever and like here's a form and like they get to you. Remember when we watch your dog that one time?
Starting point is 00:26:53 Hey we're selling cookies. They get to. So I mean there's no where they don't reach. The Boy Scout internet badge has many requirements, most of which are really basic and stupid, like find out what ISP you have at home and stuff like that. That's cool though. One of them is explain what a web browser is. For example, Netscape Navigator, Microsoft Internet Explorer, Opera, Amaya, or Lynx. Wow. That sounds like the little not-up-to-day made.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Yeah. Well, they're just missing Safari and Chrome in there, you know, which who uses those honestly? Firefox? Well, they're just missing Safari and Chrome in there, you know, which who uses those honestly firefox And let's get navigator and links who the fuck knows what links is I do I bet you guys don't I remember is that a It's a text-based Unix web browser. Okay. Listen Jesus the guy who designed that requirements is a dude a grown man who works at Boy Scouts of America He probably uses links every night. Maybe. I would imagine so. On his dial-up. Awful.
Starting point is 00:27:47 No offense to the guys that the Boy Scouts use links every night. Learned about online safety. Online safety. Using the web for scouting, you're only using a computer to start a fire. Who is the case you need? How to frighten a bear using computer. What's it doing in case of online predators just roll up in a ball and act to help out your shirt to make yourself bigger. But here's how a conversation like
Starting point is 00:28:18 Jealous Right. Here's an actual conversation ahead this year. I think Girl's Scott cookies are now twice a year too. I think they've moved it up or like they're like they're like they're shortening the window for sure But Griffin came to me and she said hey, do you want to buy some Girl Scout cookies? For Millie or she said like that. It was for Millie and I said oh, I said yeah, I guess I yeah Buy some girls like I should how many do you want I go? By boxes, I guess I go is Millie even and she's like questions like what is the minimum I can purchase What a girlfriend like is it five is what are units of guilt?
Starting point is 00:28:52 Where is a five now or we as inflation maybe ten? It's exactly the same as buying a birthday gift for co-worker essentially how low can I go and get away and not seem like a jackass But I said I guess I'll buy I'll buy five boxes and a five boxes. I said, is Millie now she's in the Girl Scouts? And she goes, oh no, this is for a friend of hers in her class. And I said, I will buy no boxes. I got zero boxes of cookies. Because I know someone else is going to come up to me.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Yeah. And I got to save my five boxes that I'm going to buy. A more direct connection for somebody else. You know, my mother, when I was younger, my mother was a field director in the girl scouts Which is I guess like the leaders leader like in the pyramid scheme. She's a few steps up and every year at Girl Scout cookie time This giant 18 wheeler with the Girl Scout logo on the side of it would come to our house and unload all the cookies Every Girl Scout in like the surrounding counties at Seoul. Oh my so our house would be filled with fucking cookies that I couldn't eat.
Starting point is 00:29:46 And when you're like 13 years old, and you see like hard burdened beds. Two tons of cookies that you can't touch. It's a fucking frustrating. So I buy all the cookies now. Nice. Except for whoever's gonna email me now and ask me to buy cookies, I'm not buying your cookies.
Starting point is 00:30:00 There's something you have to do as an adult. My entire freshman year of college, I ate ice cream for breakfast every day because I could yeah, well, yeah I think that's the backfire of like when when parents are like no, you can't have this you can't have that there is a repercussion for that mm-hmm I remember being a kid not being able to get all the video games I want it now. It's like well now. I'm just gonna fucking buy him not ever open I'm just gonna put him on the shove. It's true. I mean just like I'll show them yeah, I'll show them
Starting point is 00:30:24 But it's you know See I didn't waste my youth, but I wasted my money when I was take that, parents. So I saw an interesting, well, I thought it was an interesting discussion on Kotaku this morning, where they were asking people, you know, talking about video games, they were asking people, when you buy the collectors, or if you buy the collectors edition of a video game, do you prefer like a physical thing to come with the collector's edition or do you prefer an in-game add-on for the collector's edition? That's a great question. And I don't know about you guys, but I prefer the in-game stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I hate finding a place for this physical things. Like Modern Warfare had the fucking Night Vision GOG, which I'd never use. But if you have a better gun in the game. Were there results on that? No, it's just an open discussion. Like an open comments thread. I can already tell you what people in this room will say. Jack will want the physical item.
Starting point is 00:31:09 That's correct. He likes the, what they call a chauchee. Yeah, yeah. I only specific ones though. Not like I've got my rockstar key chain. I got from Grant of Thought of Four and I'm about the collectorship and that. I still have that on me right now.
Starting point is 00:31:20 For a lot of people, they will eventually hit a point in their life where they will go. You know what? I do not want stuff. I don't want stuff and I've hit that point in my life where it's just like I'm doing everything to like not have stuff. You know, it's been always possible, but like I don't know. You come from life. I don't know if you're gonna hit. I don't know if that's your thing. But it seems like a lot of times like this stuff is almost, is almost makes you better in the game Like when bad company two came out if you pre-order didn't you get like a gun that would take you a lot longer to unlock otherwise So it's the M1A one if I were not was a world at war that was world at war
Starting point is 00:31:55 I Always go for that. I love you like jump in and you're instantly better than all the other people you're playing with yeah I mean yeah, absolutely I always prefer the digital add-on stuff just because it's like but that's not especially the multiplayer stuff It lasts for about a day and that's when it takes everyone else to catch up to you. Maybe that's true That's true. There's the stuff less risk of your life There's some single player stuff like in Mass Effect 2 you got armor and weapons that helps you throughout the campaign
Starting point is 00:32:23 That's the funny thing because I think a lot of times it dependsends right I mean there's I remember the halo helmet the halo helmet was cool. Yeah, you know, so I actually have a flaming halo helmet from the DLC Preorder also cool. Yeah, and people have now been asking me how to sell my avatar yet a flaming helmet if you bought it The legendary edition yet a flaming helmet in the game, which still happened to this day. Though now my avatar, my Xbox Live avatar, has a flaming helmet. Yeah, I see that. People are constantly asking me how to do it, but they can't get it. Kind of sucks when you see something like, oh, I want that. Well, you need to go back in time to 30 days before the DLC came out, and then you can get it. I kind of like that sort of thing, you know, where it's like Nike with the shoe philosophy,
Starting point is 00:33:00 where you have limited runs of stuff, and it creates diversity. I mean, you've got to limit supply on stuff to make it cool. Yeah, it's like an exclusivity. Yeah. You're like, you're like, I don't want to say a cool club, but you're in a club. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And it's like, well, next time you have the Anabal, pay attention. Well, if you think you might play a game too, I'm so far behind, I'm right now, I'm playing Dead Space, not Dead Space too, but the original one. It's great, that game is from 2008. That's happening to me more and more and more now, where it's like I'm playing like, I hadn't played the first one where it's like, I'll go back and I'll play the original one. That game is from 2008. That's happening to me more and more and more now where it's like I'm playing like,
Starting point is 00:33:25 I hadn't played the first one where it's like, I'll go back and I'll play the first one. And it's all, it'll be a good experience. I'll enjoy it. And, but I think that kind of thing though, I think it punishes the long tail people. Like I'm discovering dead space now two years later,
Starting point is 00:33:40 and I'm buying, I bought a like games on demand that was right to the publisher. There's no manufacturing They probably made more in my $20 purchase and they made on a $60 purchase in the retail store I should get that bonus I think at that point Do you think that they're trying to copy like the the movie philosophy where they want a big opening weekend and as many Frontloaded numbers as they can to then fund development of sequels down the road. Oh, absolutely Otherwise, I mean otherwise the team goes away.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Right. I mean, oh, we had a bad day one by everybody. Yeah. You know, we're not even going to put this thing on games on demand. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Also, I mean, with multiplayer games, you have to have that.
Starting point is 00:34:15 If you show up in the multiplayer and you can't ever find a match, because there's 100 people online, that game's dead. Or because everyone's so fucking good because they've been playing that game for two years. Yeah. And you're just jumping in. You don't know the maps, getting screened at. I think we're not fucking good because they blame that game for two years. Yeah, yeah, you're just Jumping in you know the maps getting screamed at I think we're not saying you want that big first weekend for that. Yeah, of course I get to say weird thing almost words just like I remember when black ops came out it was like biggest release, you know entertainment release ever or whatever it is it's kind of like yeah cool
Starting point is 00:34:41 Video games. Yeah, take that. I would would love to write, I like to be the guy at a gaming magazine that writes the biggest release ever because it's like, I just use the same article and just like know the variables. Like, we're the biggest article release. It's a control find, Call of Duty 1 with Halo Reach, okay, replace all. Which you've done.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And it's like, you replace the dollar figure. Yeah, you have. It's like the name of the game and the dollar figure. Yeah, right. It's like, we're just writing like a template. It's like, just every time the big game comes out, it's like the name of the game and the dollar figure. Yeah, right. It's like just riding like a template. It's like just every time the big game comes out, just replace and I'm done. It's funny that you say that though because it's definitely true. Like it's if you've never played Call of Duty before and you jump in that multiplayer.
Starting point is 00:35:16 I mean, versus someone who's been playing the previous versions of Call of Duty, you don't say any chance. Yeah, you're literally under leveling aspect to the game that protects you as a new player. Yeah, but there's always people who have new accounts or get reset or they did a dopey thing with a D-level. Yeah, people do that prestige Is what that is right? Well, they know inhaler well Three there was a thing that they try to go down in right Right, right? You would try to get down to level one right you can't do that in color duty because once you reach a level There's no going down.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And when you prestige, and I'm at level 50, so I'm almost there, but I mean, that's your basically level 51. It's not like you're not like taking a level one. Oh, it's your like star one or whatever. Yeah, I think basically all it does is takes away all, I think, all the guns, and you just kind of have to start over
Starting point is 00:36:03 all the abilities or whatever, but it's still matching you, you know, gets people who are 50s and 50s. I believe it does seem like that's fundamentally wrong that a character who is a higher level who then has more game time would have access to better weapons. Well, again, I think if when you get to a prestige prestige, you lose all the weapons, you lose all those bonuses. Okay. So to some extent, it's like, okay, we'll fear this good now. But even like level 30s, where's level 45? I mean, it's the level 45 is between a lot longer than the level 30.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah, but and he's got better weapons and everything. If they die, you can pick up those weapons. Okay. I mean, I don't know if better is the right, they're all different in different functionality. It's just like which weapon works best for you I guess in a situation you build loadouts and choose what you want to use. Yeah, I still I still like you sound like a special right? I still love battlefield bad company to the best. That's probably my favorite multiplayer. I've played an Xbox great game to me the biggest single advantage a multiplayer person can have in Any game is knowledge of the map. Yeah, absolutely. The more knowledgeable you are about the map, that's the biggest advantage, I think.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, it's hard to separate knowledge of the map with experience playing on the map, though, too. I mean, just, you could kind of go hand in hand, I think. There is that fun first experience, no matter what map it is, where you just can't figure it out. It's like, how did they get up there? Yeah. Yeah. Like, how did they get up there? Yeah. How did he shoot me from there? That's fine.
Starting point is 00:37:27 That's some of the coolness of it to me is like, okay, let's figure it out. I'm kind of surprised though that, you know, the battlefield technique, or the style of sort of loadout and stuff, hasn't really kind of expanded out to other games yet, you know. Reach has it? Not really. Like, there's not like a medic class in reach, you know? Yeah, there is.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Is there? Yeah, there is. Is there? Yeah, you have your drop shield that heals people. I guess so, but that's, I don't know. But I like the idea of being able to, like, you know, revive people and there's like specific stuff. Like in other words, I hear what you're saying, because the classes in battlefield are very, the more the more specific.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Yeah, I mean, honestly, like, I've said this before. And then that team, when everyone's, yeah, yeah. To me, the best team dynamic that I've had was in Battlefield where you have a bunch of people that are different classes and that works. But I mean, like in Reach, everyone has access to the same weapons.
Starting point is 00:38:14 It's the year true. I mean, it is, I'm just pointing out that they say they have it and all that, but I'm really in Halo. They're really all the same guys are different. I mean, when it comes down to every single multiplayer match you play in Halo is a slayer match I mean is you know, but you know, that's what it comes out to you know, it's funny to me though Is that all the little differences in all these multiplayer is kind of a good thing because each one of them plays a little bit
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah, so it's a different experience and that's kind of good. Yeah, I mean reaches reaches got a lot better about it with you know Like you know, there's racer stuff now and there's you know grip ball and stuff like that now but you know I'm actually not the great of like that great of an FPS player so anytime I get a chance to do something where it's like you know I love I love driving and reach and I love playing a medic in battlefield because I actually you know instead of having to go and shoot people I can just you know support the people I know what they're doing and are better at it than me and I wish there was more stuff like that in other games have you ever played team fortress to yes okay that takes that to the extreme yeah I mean there was more stuff like that in other games. Have you ever played Team Fortress 2? Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Okay, because that takes that to the extreme. Yeah. I mean, you have entirely support classes. Yeah. You play as an engineer and never fire your gun once. Yeah. Yeah. I like that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I never played that game. I feel bad. I wish I had the chance. If you like specific duties like that and you want to play like a support class, which I enjoy playing as a support guy, that's fun. The medic in that to me is no fun, but like the engineer's fun, spies are fun. You know, it's very, very, very specific. And I can't play as soldier in Team Fortress 2, which is, it seems like the base class of
Starting point is 00:39:33 you have a rocket launcher and you're an FPS guy. Yeah, you should people. I can't play that at all. I'm terrible at that, you know, in Demo Man, I guess all the offensive, you've always liked support characters more though. I have, back in the day, we played Battlefield 1942, the original one. I guess all the offensive, you've always liked support characters more though I have we're back in the day we played Battlefield 1942 the original one Yeah, I would play the medical time or the engineer and that was fun fixing people's tanks Yeah, going along with the tank. Yeah, that was fun
Starting point is 00:39:52 So I like to do that in Halo, but people and even when they play teams There's a way you play teams in Halo that you don't play in other games I mean, it's definitely more of an offensive game Yeah, and I think halos are really cool hybrid now of the shooter FPS and the class FPS. It's like right in between those. Yeah, it's cool. Yeah. Yeah, but I don't play much of the shooter FPS is like I don't I don't play cold. I don't think I played a single round of the new color duty multiplayer. I think on modern warfare, the original. original or maybe Warfare 2 is the big one. I played I think two matches to of that stuff. Yeah, I'm thinking of I haven't played Black Ops multiplayer at all. I played some of Joel. We played some zombies, but that was it. It's funny. I love that game type. It's such a blast. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of funny because it's I
Starting point is 00:40:35 feel like you can never win. But that's kind of the point. I just how long you can delay the inevitable. It's like life.'s like life damn fucking string it out. Yeah, did you see the the guy who recreated Halo gameplay and Minecraft That he recreated lockout and they'd like a multiplayer shooter where it's like two guys running around shooting each other Fucking crazy. That's awesome. The pillar minecraft has really expanded the creativity of people with with the mods. It's amazing Then there was another video. I saw I think I saw them on the same day Where someone recreated the original legend of Zelda using little big planet to really that one not the whole thing
Starting point is 00:41:15 They just recreated that first dungeon that you go through they recreated all the monsters and link and They're really crazy thing I keep hearing about that kind of thing and little big planet, but when I watch it It still looks like little big planet to me. You should see this one. I should. Yeah, because it never, when you say Zelda, I'm imagining a top-down view. Yep. And that's what they can show in a little big planet. Okay. I need to look at that a little bit. Yeah, it does. Anything, anything like a little big planet. You would think you're looking at maybe an emulator. Really? Yeah. That's really interesting.
Starting point is 00:41:43 It's really crazy. Yeah, those sandbox games, those, I think those are the future for sure. Are these even technically sandbox games at that point? You know, just do whatever you want and play however you want. Yeah, it's almost like an end. You're just given an engine and you just plug in the bits wherever you want them. I would say the opposite is now looking backwards are the games we considered to be sandbox games are those really sandbox games like Would your grandfather auto compare to forage or Minecraft it doesn't really because you can't what you do in the world is just open world. Yeah, I remember editing maps and doom two Using those those crappy like your wad files
Starting point is 00:42:19 Files. Yeah, I love that stuff. Actually like I remember right before Columbine hit I had made a map of my middle school To play and do them. No, no, it's one of the things is like, you know, and then as soon as all that happens Like, you know, I started reading about these kids getting busted and getting in trouble for doing stuff It's like that's the only building I know, you know, I go to that building every five days a week So I know it so I'm like, yeah, I'll design that mine as well. Yeah, like I even made like multiple floors Which you know doom was only a single floor on the best escape like, yeah, I'll design that mine as well. And yeah, like I even made like multiple floors, which you know, Doom was only a single floor. I found the best escape routes. No, I know I'm worried about the weapon stashes. Yeah, like there were the rips and like, you know, like KG demons and stuff where like teachers would be in classrooms and things like that. But
Starting point is 00:42:56 anyway, yeah, it was pretty crazy. And like I always wished like the the uh, grand theft auto map, like the big giant grand theft auto map, you could manipulate more or have things change on it or change a game type even where I still think it would be great if we had like a giant zombie game using that huge map. It's like, I guess that must be a very hard thing to do. That's like prototype, right? Kind of. Yeah, kind of. Yeah, but I mean, that's what that was.
Starting point is 00:43:22 You know, that's what you're trying to repurpose it. Yeah. That's where the Left for dead series came from. It was a mod of counter strike. And they were playing around with different things you could do with the engine messing with counter strike. And they just kept coming back to playing the zombie variant over and over and over again.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And then they just changed into left for dead. I think there's a lot of sound logic in that where it's just like through some assets out there, let the community get a hold of it and see what great game happens when people want to play. And then just, even if it's Val. Yeah, even to Counter Strike. Like you talk about Lifer did coming from Counter Strike, Counter Strike started like that also.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah. It was like, it started from Half-Life. You know, at Pax where they have the Omega Thon, is that what it's called? Which is a kind of like an Olympics of gamers, and it's hard to get in. I think they take 32 or 16 contestants. I think it's 32 I think.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Yeah, you have to apply and then we've never really participated in this, but then they have these events where you go up against somebody in a game and whoever scores highest or head to head beats the other person, then they go up until it's like the top two gamers. And it's like different games all along the way. And it's really very cool.
Starting point is 00:44:21 And at one tier, it was Simon, the old Simon game where you play the memory game. You know, it's like everything. It's awesome. And I think one tier it was Simon the old Simon game where you play the memory game You know, it's like everything it's awesome and what I think one of them was a trivia contest and the hardest the top trivia question In it was what was the code? What is the code that's typed in on the bomb on Counter-Strike? What's the five digit number holy shit and Gabe knew it? Jesus. Yeah, I thought that was pretty funny That's a really good one because you see it all the time
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah, you don't get a欠 but you wouldn't pay attention to what the code is that's fucking crazy Yeah, yeah, but that's what valve does. I mean team fortress two team fortress was a really honestly a horrible game If you look the original one and team fortress two they adopted that style the new style for it the the visual aesthetic and It's now a phenomenon that game. I mean, we don't even really feel it because we're more console gamers. On the PC, that game is huge, absolutely huge, enormous community behind it. You know, it's funny, I love PC gaming when it works, but it's like takes so much, I feel like it takes so much time and effort to get myself in a position where it
Starting point is 00:45:21 works. It's just, I don't want to... Yeah, I was talking to a friend of mine the other day and he was talking about, you know, how he's playing all these, you know, PC games and how I should get back into it. Then It's just, I don't want to. Yeah, I was talking to a friend of mine the other day, and he was talking about how he's playing all these PC games and how I should get back into it. Then he's like, yeah, I only had a little bit of trouble. My two, my crossfire video cards were acting up, and I guess I was getting a lot of screen tearing. It's like, I uninstall the drivers, reinstalled them, spent like half the day, and I finally got it working.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I was like, yeah, you just reminded me why I don't do that. You're more sure. It's funny because a lot of people, I think back in the day, got their start in computer technology through like, I have to change my video card. And that's how it starts. Now, when I found a PC game, is what I would always do is I would load the game up,
Starting point is 00:45:57 like, crisis or something like that. And then load it up and go, wow, this is really cool. Look how beautiful this is. OK, let's change all the settings to lowest setting. Because I'm not gonna Notice all this stuff after five minutes of playing the game. So let's just get to the game and turn all the other stuff down Just like a relay. Yeah, I would I have no problems unless it's like an RTS and it actually physically reduces my real estate
Starting point is 00:46:17 That I can see on screen. I have no problem lowering Draw me crazy like I always wanted to ramp it up as high as I could and if I couldn't then it's like I'm missing out then you got a lot of money for a new video card and your computer Have you guys seen the new TVs that are out like a 3d TVs and the led TVs and have this Motion correction built into them. I hate it. No a lot of people feel like it It almost looks like it interpolates frames between the frames and it kind of like takes Your frame rate up to 5997. Yeah, and so a lot of people don't like it because it makes everything kind of look like video It's like super crisp. Yeah, and like a shutter rates higher. It's just it's really strange effect
Starting point is 00:46:58 You can kind of my house like the 120 Hertz TV exactly. I think mine's a 240 Hertz actually. Oh, yeah, cuz they're doing two 20 Hertz TV exactly mine's a 240 Hertz actually. Oh yeah, yeah, because doing two different signals for the 3D So it's a 220 signals that come on to a 240 and my wife immediately saw it hated it Somebody really well. He said it makes everything look like a Spanish soap opera And I thought that's a really good decision of the look. I saw one of those then I saw Avatar They were playing it like a best buy or something. I was like something looks looks different with this. It looks like you said it looks like a Spanish soap opera. Yep. Yeah, like certain visual effects utterly fall apart. Yeah. And you increase like frame rate and they hurt. It seems like like I saw Spider-Man or whatever. It was just, it was so crisp, it didn't look real at all. It looked not good. The tap dancing sequence down the sidewalk was horrible.
Starting point is 00:47:45 There's something about the human eye where it's like if you're looking at something with the human eye, something's going to be out of focus somewhere. You know, it's like if you're looking at a screen where it's a giant city, Vista, and everything is perfectly crisp, it doesn't bring true. I think you know, I've played new video games with that on. Yeah, I was going to say so I started headed with this. So I played a Halo Reach with that setting on. That was bizarre. I mean, it was like you would turn to your left and there would be no blur because it would interpolate all that. So it's like a perfect turn. I came and describe it and it felt like we never do a machinima on PCs because the mouse look is
Starting point is 00:48:20 so much different than the controller look because it's not quite even. But there's something more to it. It's like everything is too clear the entire time you're turning. And to see that on like Halo in a console game, it's really strange, man. It's really strange. So I had to turn all that stuff off. Yeah, that's crazy. I don't think I would like that. You know who does, you know, who does really like that and who cries out all the time about the frame rates of the average movie going experiences James Cameron. He really he likes 3D a lot. I've heard him talk about this, but it's really the frame rate. He's trying to move to a higher frame rate. He's trying to move like a 60 frame per second standard for movie
Starting point is 00:48:55 theaters because he hates motion. You know, he hates the normal blur you get from just panning. Interesting. There's a term for it like stereoscopic something or other, but I forget what it is right now. You probably made the word up. I trade. He's got so much money. You own five bucks right now. He adds in my number dictionary. Yeah, you can watch out the guy that I'm on a money too, because he's like, I was going to build my own theaters. You know, they'll have this.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Yeah, that's really weird. You should come see him. You can see my house and play hello on the TV. Yeah, it's also weird where it's like gaming versus viewing, you know, like passive versus active. Yeah, it's also weird where it's like gaming versus viewing, you know, like. Passive versus active. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. So what you were saying about the cityscape as well
Starting point is 00:49:32 is that I hate when they force a depth of field on you. They do a lot of games. Gears of War is really guilty of it. A lot of the, what do they call them, like the next gen games? Yeah. Well, I think that's a graphic thing too. Like they're saving themselves, you know, I guess
Starting point is 00:49:46 Reno process or real estate by it is kind of like lowering the graphic settings on the further away stuff. Sure I get that. I mean, is that new fog of war? That's that's draw distance versus depth of field though. You're talking about that. Sometimes they do it for an aesthetic and if like I'm looking at a character In the screen like if this is truly interactive if I'm looking at my guy and Grand Theft Auto and i want to look down the street i can focus down the street if i want to realize i don't look down the street and splurring i go all walk down so it's not blurring the same effect in a movie your actually it's a narrative you're showing people what they want what you want them to see you interact supposedly you're showing them what they want to see and death of you just to me does not work in video games. That's it. Are you bothered by the infinite focal distance of Halo? Does that bother you? No. Yeah. And I assume that Call of Duty has the same infinite focal distance. I don't know that there's any way they could solve that without having like software track your eye to see what you're looking on the TV to then determine what should be in focus and what should be out of focus.
Starting point is 00:50:41 That is weird, right? Yeah, so your TV would it's almost like Yeah, I don't know that'd be fucking bizarre connect can't do that I just want to point out I'm gonna put a bookmark right here We will one day come back and listen to this podcast and go But we were talking about depth of field and eye tracking like it was a big deal You know like it can never happen They'll probably have like a week and a half from now and this podcast will sound super dated almost immediately Well, you started with the old-timey voice, so you're setting up being dated immediately. But we should wrap up before we go too long.
Starting point is 00:51:11 I agree, because we're working on something big next week is our... Gus? What? What is next week? February nights? It's our hundredth podcast. Our hundredth podcast! After a hundred...
Starting point is 00:51:22 God, a fucking hundred. That's crazy. Congratulations, man. That's awesome I'm just thinking about the cumulative amount of time do you dream when you dream at night? Do you just like hear people's voices every like and you think about what do you have to cut out or whatever every now and then Oh, I'll have a dream seeing garage band in front of me with the bars and the waveforms and Well, oh so that's gotta be sold right now. If it takes like, let's say six hours of podcasts, it's 600 hours in my life.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Jesus, it's been cutting stuff. So you're not gonna reveal what's coming up. No, no. We're gonna have our hundreds of podcasts next week. So check it out. But we're cutting short so we can go prepare for some stuff that we're here on. For next week.
Starting point is 00:52:01 We can go deal with snowpocalypse outside. Yeah. I'm pissed at just 20 degrees, we don't have snow. For next one, go do all of this. We can go deal with snowpocalypse outside. Yeah. I'm pissed. It's 20 degrees, we don't have snow. Oh, it's the same. Sucks. All right, well thanks for listening. Bye, everybody. Characans are free to do is have nothing to do with this podcast. Analyze various unsolved and rooster teeth's cryptic podcast.
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