Rooster Teeth Podcast - RT Podcast #157

Episode Date: March 14, 2012

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie comes the new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-oxane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnett, and Thomas Hayden Church.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Twisted metal, streaming now, on P-Cock. You know that it's not last burning burning don't know what the burnings are gonna go to the next Joe hey man, we man don't know what the same man either deceit but he's cute. I give a man It's wrong thing your Wednesday treat sorry, because it wasn't short and sweet What up is the podcast? Sorry Gus, it's short and sweet. People said any messages through their theme songs now. That was awesome. Apparently Joel's cute, according to Strange Dunk. Once again I wasn't in that, so.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Yeah, by the time you leave the US, we'll be back. Yeah, having the end time. Gavin, you were gone for two years. You're gonna be moaned no one. Although like that's probably from two years ago, isn't it? It's pretty close there. It's over a year? It's pretty close. It's over a year.
Starting point is 00:01:46 It's like January of 11. Okay, so we're getting caught up. So we're true. We got lucky because a lot of people submitted Christmas 2010 theme songs. I had to skip now, because it's not Christmas anymore. So we made a lot of ground up. Okay, so at the beginning of every podcast,
Starting point is 00:01:59 we play like digital archeologists, where we try to date how old that podcast theme is. Guess what? We hit a big milestone. This... What was it? What was that? So, you are you all are familiar with the Ruestrieteath animated adventures. Yes, I am. Formerly known as the Drunk Tank animated adventures. Yes. So those were we've discovered those because those were created by Jay or Dan 23. A guy you yelled at at one point. A guy yelled at one point. I think his YouTube account was O the Knows. Yeah, O the Knows.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Yeah, yeah. And so he started making these little cartoons of stuff that we would talk about on the podcast. And so then we thought, hey, that's kind of cool. And just like we do a lot of times, we hired him out of the community and said, why don't you just make him and we'll post him on our YouTube channel and start to paint him to make him.
Starting point is 00:02:43 And he had his first video that had a million views this week Can you guys listen to that? Gavin's headlight fluid still on I'm glad that a million extra people have witnessed that one million people What what episode of the podcast was that was like in the end it was 30 30 mm-hmm, man God what do we at now 157 17 Over three years of podcast. Wait wait. This is yeah, did I ever call you out on your shitty math? Yeah, you did and I defend myself. Yeah, and I defend myself. This is the fifth year of the podcast I never said we've been doing it for five years
Starting point is 00:03:15 It is the fifth year that we've been doing the podcast the fifth calendar year totally different Have you heard this discussion Gavin? I would just like me saying I've been alive in four decades Right, technically true, but I'm not for Congratulations, or that we've been making a podcast in two decades for two decades. Well, we've been Yeah, we have a year. There we go five years Two years three years How does 150 episodes because we did one in 2009 2010 2011 2012 I just counted on my hand. That's five years.
Starting point is 00:03:45 We didn't do whatever week. I didn't say we've been doing it for five years. No, I didn't say we've been doing it. You're just saying what I'm saying. You'll forget the week we did one every day. Well, that was like suck on number downs, by the way. Oh, yeah, that's true. That would suck our number down a bit.
Starting point is 00:04:00 That's yeah, it's that. I learned all these new expressions. We did a really fun thing this weekend. That was so much fun Where on Sunday night we live stream us trying to play leferded on trying to be right to Leferded to on expert mode and we tried to be dark carnival Which essentially just for us was the first level the hotel level we made it to the hotel in we never got behind the hotel ever We got to that second staircase like you know you go and you have to go upstairs and you go down to got behind the hotel ever we got to that second staircase like you know You go and you have to go upstairs and you go down to get behind the hotel
Starting point is 00:04:28 I think we got to that staircase we never got to that staircase. We never know we got there one time No, we never got through the room that you bridge that gap. I know you're right. We're right We never that's where we died. That's the furthest we got it was terrible We are we've always been awful at left for dead always and I had some Friendly fire issues. Oh next but yeah, you did. Yeah, I'm reviewing. I'm rewatching it now And it's constant. I shouldn't make it like a counter like Gavin Gavin shoot someone or set someone on fire. That's it. It's literally friendly fire Well, I'm gonna wait till the zombie to group up and I'm gonna throw a Molta of cocktail on them
Starting point is 00:05:07 Sometimes it's hard to see what they're grouping around If you stop some like car alarm, they could all just like bundle at the car One time you were on the ground and to try to help you through boomer-buy line One time you were on the ground and to try to help you through Boomer by alignment You're incapacitated you through Boomer by all and you were like what do you do? He's like I tried to help He's any these depends what I thought it was a pipe bomb like well Yeah, let them to the work it out. Is that no that's not better. Well, I panic. I panic. It's scary. There's zombies everywhere It's crazy. I always panic. I think at one point I called a boomer a boomer I was so scared I think at one point I called a boomer. A boomer? I was so scared. I get so scared playing that game.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I think at one point you call a spit or a... And Carrie had never played before. So he didn't know what any of the... Yeah, that's why he kept saying, oh, it's the thing with the arm. You didn't know that new special. Here comes the thing with the arm. But yeah, that was fun. But the problem was, you would get a bunch of zombies
Starting point is 00:06:05 around you and you would be in trouble and you'd think how am I going to get out of this and then immediately why am I on fire? Because as soon as you were in trouble, Gavin would like you on fire. That was a lot of flame. You think the zombies are scared of fire or something? Like maybe if you like someone on fire, they'll run away from that person. There's so much, there's so much full sense of security in that game. Now, you think you've cleared an area, and all of a sudden it's like, which tank, everything all at once, it's terrifying, there's no way to run.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I still like, at one point, you guys are pretty far, you change levels, right? Yeah, we're to hard-a-rain ever. You were, you were, you were pretty damn far in the level. Gus was almost in the end, and then, the brain just jumped on a car
Starting point is 00:06:40 and set off the alarm. We made it through that level. Yeah. Because of that. No, you made it through that level. Hey, because of that. No, you made can be called a bog. Oh any toilet It's like slang for toilet. I don't know a bog. I can pull it. Oh, that should be our that's our new team name team bog It was either people come out the bog of the cupboard the cupboard
Starting point is 00:07:14 Right, so there's a thing in left for dead where if someone's dead and you make it more than 12 feet after somebody dies You have a chance to respawn them by pulling a lot of a closet. Which just makes sense We saw this happen like once maybe twice the entire night Well, we would see them appear because they're outlining piercing Hey, there's someone up ahead to let them out of the room and we would be like 30 feet away from them and not be able to navigate that I think we were about 50 50 for people coming back in the bog and then actually living them out Well, that's because on one level the the bog was literally in the first courtyard out. Well that's because on one level the bog was literally in the first courtyard. So someone had to die four feet out of the gate and then we'd have to survive that and then
Starting point is 00:07:51 pull the person out. Which is not unheard of. You know our very first run in dark carnival we didn't even get over. We like we struggled to get over that first car. You know you get your weapons and there's the car like we need to stand there at the very beginning. Somehow we died during the opening cinematic. That they were just born on the floor. There is something quite funny about someone getting brutally murdered by zombies and then just stepping out of a port of potty. Christ.
Starting point is 00:08:17 You have no idea. But that was actually a throwback to one of the only podcast related videos we've ever made, which was we did the left for dead survival goat mode. was we did the left for dead survival goat mode. This was the first left for dead, right? Yeah, correct. Yeah, so we tested, we've always loved left for dead a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:31 It's a great, because it's pure maam with four players. And we tested when they released survival mode as part of an update, where you just have to hold out as long as you can. And it was just us yelling at Joel and screaming tank, tank, tank. Every time a tank shows up. So we labeled it Rooster Teeth Survival Strategy Guide and there's no strategy. There's no strategy, there's no survival. There's no guide. There's no grip. There's no grip. Survival mode, I like survival mode, whether I just let bus through the wall and stuff. It's a lot fun. That's one of the last moments of that video like Joel's hiding behind a woman and the wall
Starting point is 00:09:08 Years talking about all this philosophy of if we get a room that's surrounded by bricks. They can't come to the bricks We're screaming and yelling But we were screaming that live too. We had like 3,000 people watching us right by the end of the night It was 24,000 a view of you. Yeah, and so we we I mean that was on 20 minutes notice Yeah, so people have asked a bunch so I should probably clarify so that was Kind of an alpha test to some live stuff we're gonna be doing as part of an upcoming beta test in the month of April and We already got some beta testers for it We'll be posting on the website again sometime soon.
Starting point is 00:09:47 And just to kind of hint, when we'll be posting is, we're trying to figure out the best time to do live events. And so it would make sense if we post a call for beta users at the time that we want to do live events because we want people who are online at that time. Right, that makes sense. So you're just deciding the best time to do them. Right, but everyone in the world to what? We think we've settled on the time because that was a good time. Right? That makes sense. So you're just deciding the best time to do them. Right. But everyone in the world to what? We think we've settled on the time because that was
Starting point is 00:10:07 a good time. Because it has to be what we think outside of school hours. Monday night work. Monday night is red versus blue night. Yeah. And so it has to be out of school. In fact, school and work. And I think although people just watch it work. Yeah. Let's put it in the background. And the, and the, that'll be available be available afterwards will they or is it just live? Well, there'll be some live events for the for the podcast where you know, cuz take So if you miss the audience if you miss the live event What happens then well then you'll be able to carry the podcast you watch recorded. Yeah, we'll put the audio out Like people know we would be pre-recorded the podcast obviously
Starting point is 00:10:39 They don't think they just hit download and I do We start talking Waiting for every person that is download doing we'll start talking as soon as they start the downloads all customized podcast That'd be a funny idea just to like put a mic in a room and whenever the light comes on you have to talk and that's someone on the internet So thanks James we're talking directly to you right now. This is your podcast Gavin. That's called a telephone Just so you know that's like no I exist you just give out your number and when it turns on you talk that's exactly what you need to do it even makes a little tone and everything like that whoop there reminds me of a conversation I had in college where we were pitching out ideas for shows and I had this crazy idea we
Starting point is 00:11:19 were like people saying well we could do like a thing where we set up cameras and you know we record what goes on in the television station all the time This is the student television station. I worked at in college where I we just talked about the Adam Sandler. Yeah, I did CS TV that showed up on YouTube Well, I look like I'm a 12 year old cancer survivor And Matt looks like a rote from like Molly crew or something. I was like a fasa So we were pitching an ideas there and I came up with this brilliant idea and I was like, said it so enthusiastically and basically my idea was we get a film camera.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Like we get a, we get to like a Nikon or Canon camera and still, you like stills and we take, we take 24 stills and then we put them together like with live action stuff and we put it together like so that it's motion and then moving and someone goes, why wouldn't we just shoot it on film? That's like, oh yeah. Oh yeah. I can't. I can't.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. At the time. And it's just like, I was like, oh, that's a good, you gotta do it. I'm like fucking eating.
Starting point is 00:12:19 That's like every day for Gavin. I'd invented film on the fly. Well, at least for Gavin, look, you've on the fly. Well, these were Gavin, you've got to be blown away by everything that happens around you all the time, right? This is exciting. You wake up like, what's going to happen to me today? How does this work?
Starting point is 00:12:33 I'm going to invent the telephone. So, you know what, I can actually go to my email and find stuff that I'm supposed to talk about for Gavin because Gus replies to it all with, Gavin is so fucking stupid. The other day, I guess it was like three weeks now. So this responds to the podcast, is it? Yeah, this is a response to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Gavin was telling us all the stuff about the royal family because we were asking him about it. I didn't tell you all this stuff about the royal family. You can tell us nothing! You don't look yet! You tried to get into it. If you gave us a Gavin level education of the royal family, which is like equivalent to a kindergarten.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Yeah. He told us, A, they don't't pay taxes and then you had a male that said they do they've paid since like 1994 I think. Well in the grand scheme of the entire history of the royal family since 1993. In the grand scheme of your entire life they've been paying taxes. I was born in 93. You probably don't remember life shit before that. How old are you in 93? Were you in five? I was five. So you were really big into the tax code. I'm sure. I'm sure there's really important to you.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And then he also said that Queen Elizabeth doesn't have a full name. Like she doesn't have a name. I said she doesn't have a last name. Yeah, she's, I don't know. It's like a wind source. We're talking about a different, you said from the house of Windsor.
Starting point is 00:13:41 What's the problem? She has a name. The guy said his her name. What's her name? I'm gonna look it up now. You can't say it or you summon her three times in the mirror. She shows up and starts knighting people. I'm gonna look it up. I don't get a Wikipedia because I'm sure Wikipedia if you look up Queen Elizabeth. But I know. And he also said that she doesn't have a passport, which I guess is not true anymore either. And she does have a passport. I mean, even that high school. She doesn't have a passport, which I guess is not true anymore either That she does have a passport who can't even that high
Starting point is 00:14:07 She doesn't need a passport. She has like a document that just says I don't need a possible The the name is on all the possible, but she's the head of the country You just know that she has a name and not like when we know the president I see we know the first name. Yeah But you know It's not that he didn't know it's like he said she had no name no, I said she had no way I said she had no surname That's a name you don't know her name
Starting point is 00:14:37 Who is the president of the United States? We've done this the other week who is the president of the United States? Obama right do you know his first name? Yes? You know the has a first name. What is his first name? You know, it's funny. No wait wait. Let's take it back a step. You asked what's the name of the president He replied with the last name. So how was the last name of the queen not her name? What do you mean the last name the queen? Well, I'm a queen. What are you talking about? So tell me then what is the queen's name? Queen Elizabeth the second and she's got like Mary that's the middle names as well But there's no surname is what I'm saying, but what I'm telling you say her name. So what is her name?
Starting point is 00:15:10 I don't know if she's a leader to country your entire life just say her name. She's called the queen Nobody calls on Liz. All right list. How's it going? What is what is Bill Clinton's full name William Jefferson Clinton? Not that he four years or eight years, he was president. Who's saying Obama? Okay. So, okay. So, even go back further. There's Franklin D. Roosevelt. What is the D stand for?
Starting point is 00:15:36 Delano. Delano, Delano. Oh, God, sake. They're not royalty. The royal family is born into royalty. They don't have a great understanding. So what's her name? Read it online!
Starting point is 00:15:47 What is her name? No, no, no, you're jealous! You're asking for money. The point is she's been the leader of your country your entire life. You don't know her name. That's the point. Now that she has a name,
Starting point is 00:15:56 it's like you don't know it. I know a role. What? Right. I know the way it went. What's her role? Queen. What does that mean? What does she do what does your big country boss she nice people commonwealth she taps people with a stick
Starting point is 00:16:14 Who's the prime minister right now? David Cameron Who's the person I don't actually know who's prime minister? David Cameron. Yeah, I lost track. Who's before the camera? Gordon Brown. Yeah, I lost track after Gordon Brown. I lost track after Tony Blair to be honest. I got to meet I lost track after Tony Blair as well. Tony Blair was the man. You thought so? I don't know. I just liked his face. I thought he was he was pretty well now. I thought he was kind of known for being kind of a bitch. I was a yeah. I never really listed anything He said it just he was gonna kind of agreed to go into Iraq and stuff like that I rock
Starting point is 00:16:49 Rock I want a rock what is the wrong What's the full name I rocks a commirile What's that read out the Queen's full name? Okay, hold on let me put the The full name I don't know the Okay, hold on let me her the name her full name. I don't know the I never said I did know it at what point you said she didn't have one I said she doesn't have a last name and because she's referred to us from the house of Windsor all that really old like Anglo-German name and you look at your email look up Queen name because I must have deleted it. Oh her Gavin is an idiot Okay, here's the Queen's full name is Elizabeth
Starting point is 00:17:24 Alexandra Mary, so you think her surname is Mary. Get me. It is a submittal name With the last one. So they don't cool like what's Alexandra them? It's a middle name and Mary is also Yeah, I think matter is many names in between the first name of the Senate. He's not called William Mary No, her name. That's the point nothing. It's not called William Mary. You mean no her name? That's the point. Nothing is not the point I was making. Listen, what were making? Look, you list all the names. They all have middle names, but they won't be one surname. But you don't know the name.
Starting point is 00:17:55 It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. The point is you live in a country where you're ruled by someone and you didn't know their name. You just said Elizabeth. I think the Royal Family is kind of irrelevant to my generation. Would you consider it? Would you consider Queen Elizabeth to be the ruler of your country? Yeah. I see I can be careful there because I know that's like the differences
Starting point is 00:18:15 between the UK and Britain. She's in charge of the entire Commonwealth. So it's the entire UK. So it's Canada part of the UK. No, you're the Commonwealth. The commonwealth Is there's a lot there's a lot of countries in the Commonwealth. I'm looking at the Commonwealth right now back in your period Oh, here we go Gavin quiz. This is your country. Me me. I don't know five. I couldn't I couldn't give a shot I can give a shot. Okay Hong Kong is definitely not in there anymore, right? Like they gave it away. It's not just Cons you know, they have no ownership in Hong Kong. I guess India Sorry, this list isn't alphabetized or anything I don't even see India on here. I must be going way too far back. I'm a colonial stuff so I would guess
Starting point is 00:18:59 British virgin islands BVIs Canada that's still Canada Australia, she's on all the Canadian money. Canada Australia, the British Virgin Islands. India's not on there. Something in Africa, I'm not gonna know. It's got to be wrong, the India's not on here. Pakistan's on here. It's just 52 to 56. Pakistan. Yeah. Say that again. I didn't actually to know that. Well, yeah, I mean, Pakistan was more former countries than America. Pakistan was carved out
Starting point is 00:19:25 You know from from India when the you when the UK was true Okay, but that's former countries what's still in the Commonwealth still in the UK Canada Australia New Zealand New Zealand Jamaica Jamaica Barbados, but this is a Bahamas Bermuda Granada pop on you guinea Solomon Islands But this is the Bahamas, Granada, Papanyu Guinea, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu. Are the Canary Islands? Are they? No, that's St. Lucia, St. Vincent, Belize, that's weird. Antigua and St. Kyrismnevis. But this conversation proves one of the great points about the Royal family is that foreigners are very interested in it.
Starting point is 00:20:01 You think so? Like, you're curious about the Royal family, like it's kind of weird, it's kind of... I mean, it's always interesting. Yeah,, you're curious about the royal family. It's kind of weird. It's kind of whoo. I'm curious. I'm curious. You're a lack of knowledge. But it's the tourist attraction just to go and look at the Queen's house. What is the Queen's house called? Bucky Impala. Winds of Cough. Not Kale Queen. There's a great bit in World Wars-y about like castles and stuff that's pretty cool and they talk about the Queen of England. Yeah, it's a cool book. And you go to our house and you can eye the door. Yeah, and that looks like, oh hello, I'm the Queen with no name. I have no last name.
Starting point is 00:20:34 So I'm sorry, I mean don't get mad at me. Can you put somebody if they make fun of the Queen, would you be like, I fucking, you make fun of the Queen. Yeah, you would you get a tip? It's, you can do that legally. His fist is clenched. Yeah, well it is clenched. You're finished.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Yeah, I have the legal right to smack anyone who badmouths the queen. You're not. And I can't be arrested for it. Not in your country. Maybe in your country. That's not true. It's America. Yeah, what is like, what is in like funny thing about the UK is you don't have freedom
Starting point is 00:20:59 to speech. Like that's not a protected right. What do you mean? Like we that's a big thing in America. Like the biggest, if you say like what's the number one inalienable right? It's the a protected right. What do you mean? That's a big thing in America. The biggest, if you say, what's the number one inalienable right? It's the freedom of speech. So you can say what you want.
Starting point is 00:21:09 It used to be freedom of religion, but that's people don't seem to care so much about that as much as freedom of speech. So you can say anything. You can say whatever you want to. As long as it doesn't create a public hazard. Like you can't go into credit, credit, you're in your life.
Starting point is 00:21:19 How's that different from the UK? What can I say? You can't use hate speech. Like what? Like clenback. Like that. Oh, I don't know. You can't use hate speech. Like what? Like when back. Like that. Oh, yeah, I don't know. You can't say terribly racist things in public.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Well, you can do that here then. Yeah. You can just preach racism. Yep, sure. Wow, that's great. I wish I lived here. I'm not just an example. I'm not criticizing.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I'm saying it's a major difference. Like a lot of people when they hear, when like I think there's a lot of Americans who think freedom of speech is synonymous with first world cultures, it's not the case. It's like a big thing here, but it's not a big thing everywhere else. Well we have freedom of speech, you know, really. We can say we don't. Nobody really wants to preach that kind of stuff anyway. Dense, well, you think of like some people do, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Yeah, but for a regular normal person, I'm free to say what I want. Well also in America and there's a lot of American saying they have a right to privacy. There's no such thing No, there's no such thing as you have a right against the legal search and seizure right That's about it. That's it. That's about it And they can interpret that to mean yeah, that's very open. Yeah, yeah Yeah, but you guys in the UK can I mean you guys have cameras freaking everywhere We talked about this yeah, where you'd rather be feel safe than feel private I always feel like and I feel like I've always read that those cameras don't always translate into higher arrest percentages or they don't close the whole point is if you're in a section right if you're instant you're fine like
Starting point is 00:22:41 If you don't break the law that's a bad thing to say say. That's fucking big brother talk. Yeah. I don't care. If I'm not breaking the law, I can't even damn what the camera's going to do catch me not doing anything illegal. Here's what that attitude leads to though. If you say if you're innocent, you don't have anything to worry about, that leads to the idea that well, he wouldn't have been arrested if he didn't do something wrong. That's not true. I mean, in America too, we have that problem where someone is arrested and charged with something and that gets in the paper when someone's charged with something. But then nine months later, there's a court case, and they're found innocent. There's no front page headline showing, oh, you found innocent, you know what I mean? This guy. It's just
Starting point is 00:23:13 a mug shot. Yeah, I spent a night in jail for doing nothing, like doing something not illegal. What were you doing? I slept in my car and I woke up the next morning. Broke into a jail. No, you've heard the story, right? Yeah, I think I'm like from a wedding or something. Yeah, yeah. I got pulled over. They thought I was drunk. I was not drunk and they still put me in jail. How was it?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Terrible. I do not recommend going to jail. Did you have to drop a douche in front of other dudes? But by jail, you just mean like a holding cell every night. Yeah. No actual jail. But it was not like a big communal, right? Yeah, there's like 12 of us in our room.
Starting point is 00:23:43 When you say jail, too, that's what I think us in our own when you say when you say jail to you That's what I think you mean prison what we call prison. I just said that yeah, I'm so when you get when you get like Locked away. Yeah, when you go to like sentence So I recently read and this was opposed. I had to go to Facebook to find it But now there's so many of the prisons in America that are private prisons and their private enterprises that they have goals for Capacity they want to stay that they have goals for capacity. They want to stay at a certain capacity for profitability. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:07 That's fucking scary. That's why the United States has one of the highest populations of incarcerated people in the world. Yeah. Per capita for sure. Yeah. That's one of the one of the big arguments why marijuana will not ever be legal because they can just keep those guys in jail. Nonviolent offenders and they throw them in jail.
Starting point is 00:24:25 That's, I mean, seriously, that's one of the things when you, it's like, when you talk about it, that's such a huge problem that we have private prisons that are for profit. Just sitting here, talking about that, that should be like our whole lives is getting rid of that. Yeah, yeah, it's like, like they're trying to find ways to get you into prison so they can, you know, get their bottom line. Yeah. So you have the highest level of people in prison. Yeah, per capita. Per capita, even with capital punishment. Yeah. We don't get that. Not that many people. Actually, not every state has capital punishment. Okay, well, how many people get executed every year then? I guess less than, well, less than a hundred maybe.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Oh, even the whole country? Yeah, it's probably more than that. Really? I think one of your texts did a hundred by itself. Yeah, text is my due, but that's a lot. That's going to be three days. Yeah, I can't. Because usually here's something that is about that. And it also depends on who's in office, very sadly.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Are you not worried about that? About being, I don't have to worry. You could be executed by your country. No, that is a concern. That's why I don't say things like, I'm not worried because I'm innocent. You know, because you could be executed by your country. No, that is a concern. That's why I don't say things like, I'm not worried because I'm innocent. You could be innocent in some set of circumstances to come up where you get pinned with something.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah, so you're against it then. You're against capital punishment. Well, wow, we rarely really get political on here. Yeah, I'm one of those people that's like, I don't subscribe to any specific like political set. That's a big thing in America too, where it's like people have like these buckets they fit in. Like I'm I'm pro youth in Asia which is allowing people to kill themselves if they're sick and they want to. I'm pro that, but I'm not
Starting point is 00:25:53 pro capital punishment now. And the big argument there is that if somebody, if something happened to your life where, you know, I don't want to even talk about that thing that could happen, you know, with a family member or something like that, then you would see the capital punishment and you would see the value of it. But that's not, that's an individual thing, not a society thing. Like if a dude broke into a prison and killed a dude that killed his family, I would be cool with that. I would be cool with that.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I mean, yeah, if a guy, if a guy took revenge on somebody else like that, that would, to me, that would be justifiable. But like society getting together and killing somebody doesn't, doesn't sit well. But at the same time, it's like, you know, say you put someone in jail for life and they're like 25 years old, they're in jail for life, no chance of parole. Yeah. The government's going to pay for that person for the next 70 years. Money's not people though. I mean, money's not people. When it comes down to it, to me, to me, I mean, it's, you know, it's one of those things. So since 1976, there have been85 executions the most was in 1999 which was 98 hey, I said less than a hundred
Starting point is 00:26:51 Well done Jack. Thank you. Yeah. How many were how many were last year? Do you have a list in 2011 was 43? Okay, so there are 34 death penalty states. Why I'm in your country then am I eligible for execution? Certainly really it would be tricky because you're... Here's what we work as he's wiley. So your government would probably intervene and try to file some kind of extra addition to get you out of the country? They'll kind of bet this lagging off the queen now. She'll say it to you, but what is my name? I actually have a Gus and I built a flow chart here.
Starting point is 00:27:27 It's like pulling them in the story. How do we get Gavin XQG? My name's Gavin. Same on it. There were some Mexican citizens who were executed in Texas. I think within the last year, and it was kind of a big deal, the Mexican Embassy was a very... The Mexican government was very upset about it.
Starting point is 00:27:41 I realize you, we've been making that statement. There's some people that feel very strongly about it. Yeah. And it's one of the things she was like, upset about it. I realize, you know, we've been making that statement. There's some people that feel very strongly about it. Yeah, you know, and it's one of those things too. It's like, another thing I'm big into is I don't believe in cruel and unusual punishment. That's a big deal to me. It's like, when you have power over somebody, you have them captive. What you do with that person says so much about you as a person, you as a society, like
Starting point is 00:27:59 torture and things like that. And in other words, torture is like, even now is like the definition of it. It's all over the place. I think it stays far away from its possible, because once you start torturing people, it's just like, that's like medieval shit. That makes me happy you're saying that as the boss of the company. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Okay. Psychological is a totally different thing. Yeah, you're f**k. The podcast is not applied to torture. That's the second time. It's only torture for you, listen. Where's that shocking machine, you got it? I could not imagine to our church. That's only torture for a lesson. Where's that shocking machine, got it? I could not imagine the mental state
Starting point is 00:28:30 and what it does to a person to have your death as a date on the calendar, and it's coming. And you just watch it. You watch the pages of the calendar turn, and you know like February 15th, I'm gonna die. I'm not gonna be alive until December 15th. If you could know the date of your death through natural causes, you would not wanna know.
Starting point is 00:28:48 If you knew you had like 40 or 50 years from now that there's a date out there on the calendar, would you wanna know that? I don't like going out to like 2050 and knowing them probably not gonna be alive or 2060. Like that doesn't far enough out to me to know that I'm not gonna be here, you know? That seems weird.
Starting point is 00:29:03 That's actually not far enough, like 2070. That seems like kidding. You're pretty optimistic. I'm pretty optimistic. But the... It is interesting though. Imagine if you could see your gravestone with the end date already written on. You're like, damn. If you knew you couldn't die in your other way, that would be cool. Why? Because they shut yourself in front of cars. I'd be like, St. Thrill. Sure, it's fraud, I'll live in over the place. It's gonna smear it up the walls. Is it George Fraud the best mini-game? Oh yeah. Any game ever?
Starting point is 00:29:30 It was better in the first one I think. It was still great. I think the, uh, was in burnout, the old, uh... Oh, Crash. Crash mode was pretty good. Why did they take that out? I don't know. They made a whole game based on it that you should play.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Oh. Yeah, I played it. I feel like the Crash mode in the old burnout games was more... The last burnout game I played was Paradise, and it was just kind of like a tiny little mini game It wasn't really a thing. It was like a dream whenever you wanted. Yeah, but for what there's no, you know, why? Oh, didn't you should actually download the arcade game burnout crash? You should absolutely get it a lot of them. It's like the original GTA Which you probably never played which was top down. I did play that. Thank you very much. Oh, did you really? Yeah? Okay?
Starting point is 00:30:03 Well, it's like five I was about nine. I did play that. Thank you very much. Oh, did you really? Yeah. Okay. Well, so it's like five. I was about nine. He was infuriated by the tax code. Yeah. In the UK. And the matching cars. So you immediately logged on and played Grand Theft Auto. Play that on Windows 95. Windows 95.
Starting point is 00:30:15 There you go. And yeah, so it's like that. Burnout Crash is a really fun game. And there's two achievements I can't get unless my friends are playing. Oh, yeah. You'll get addicted to this because each level has three different modes. And then there's five stars in each mode on every level
Starting point is 00:30:30 So it ends up being like 280 stars that you get and then that's it's even to get every star and everything and it's like It gets to be and you can see all your friends and the the scoreboard. I don't know why on that game it matters Like that was a big thing when I first started playing Xbox live arcade games. What? Lea DeBoards. Lea DeBoards. Remember, remember, our some games are so much, I think the lead-a-boards are so much more important than others. Oh yeah, like trials. Oh my gosh. Dude, I played some trials evolution out of GDC this past week. Oh my god. When did that come in out? I think they're saying July. Nice. Yeah, I think they're aiming for some of arcade. I don't know, I don't know any new that for sure, but I let I let I let a party of like birthday party of Nine-year-olds play trials. That's totally fine, right? Yeah, yeah the guy flopping around a bike game
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah, yeah, it's ragdoll it gives him ideas for stuff they can do on their bike But I'll go way back on you know it was a great game for leaderboards marble blast. I know you can say that So good. I went through and I beat all your times by the way you slut you manky little slut There were somewhere you had a path where you could it was timed like how fast you could finish a level And there were somewhere you could pick up an hourglass that would stop your time Yeah, so there were somewhere you had to like pick up all the hour glasses on you can finish a level. And there were somewhere you could pick up an hourglass that would stop your time. So there were somewhere you had to pick up all the hourglass and you play for a minute,
Starting point is 00:31:49 but your times were like 4.2 seconds to finish the level because you were picking up the hourglass. And it's basically how quickly can you get to the first hourglass? It's a lot of the time. And it was like something a weird thing. And then we found out that people were over-calibrating their controller. Well, they found that the stick is actually limited by the plastic around the thing. So you can actually chisel away some of the plastic and your stick can push even further.
Starting point is 00:32:12 And it's actually like the controller can see it. Yeah, so you could if you take the top off of your controller. Yeah, people would just like, make a motion on your stick. Yeah, people just take the plastic or the shell around the stick. It would actually, it would make the bull just go a little bit faster Yeah, and then everything to like when you turn on the controller it auto calibrates Oh, so if you if you push up when you when you try to double up when you do it
Starting point is 00:32:34 Yeah, so this forward is the big thing leaderboards you will the the number one time on a leaderboard is never ever been a genuine run leaderboard is never ever been a genuine run. And why don't you even police that just keep that first time to leave. It's like it's like the first one is like point zero one seconds and the next one's 45 seconds. But you Jack you once got very high on the trials board for one map. Yeah, actually I got first place overall like worldwide overall for one of the trials maps. And then they busted the map and they figured out how to break them out. You just literally like in the thousands. But I happen to be recording when I actually got that time.
Starting point is 00:33:07 My best time on trials, I got 41 in the world, and I'm now like 705. Now the cooling of my trials is, like you were talking about that, you can go to the top leaderboards and actually download their runs. Yeah. You can watch their run. Like the top thousand time. They should like it.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And then they should like you to flag it. Yeah. This guy's obviously cheating and if they get in the flag, it's like, yeah, remove it or, you know then they should have you to flag it. Yeah, those guys obviously cheating and if they get in the flag Yeah, remove it or you know review it that'd be smart But there's also the philosophy too that you're using the game to get the time that anybody can do it like when you know You know, hey, halo to the head what they call sword sniping where you have a sniper rifle and you shoot and then switch your sword And you could sword lunge across the map You could do that with rocket as well and it was was fucking so. It was fucking hard. You shit.
Starting point is 00:33:45 To do that. And so the kids who could do it were amazing. So it's one of the things where there's a philosophy too with people it's like, I'm not modding the game. I'm taking advantage of something that's in the game that anybody can do if they learn how to do it. And it's not easy. So it's just when I guess patched
Starting point is 00:33:57 and then nobody can do it anymore that it becomes an issue. That's a good point. Because that hit the board way very quickly. For leaderboards. Yes. Yeah. But not so much for match man going matchmaking
Starting point is 00:34:05 Yeah, anyway, the trials of illusions could be four player like four players simultaneously. I saw some trailer stuff I just like the game is beautiful. When is that coming out? No July We're like, why don't we get it? When we see we get early copy will make that a live event It's red links. It's a Ubisoft company. So we'll see what we can do. We'll talk to faith So dear Ubisoft people out there if you're listening or, or Red Links tarot, something is the CEO of Red Links. We love your game. Charles is my favorite game.
Starting point is 00:34:29 We love your game. Number one video game, Pond. Yeah, Pond. Yeah, Pond. So we know the Queen's, by name. We know the Queen's true name. We have power over there. So what with you highest though ranking ever in a leaderboard
Starting point is 00:34:43 was Jack, you were highest. You were third in the world as the drummer on rock band No, I was tied for first time for first. I've been I've been first in the world on three leaderboards One of which I don't really count because those before a game was out. That's so you're right That doesn't count but still it was kind of cool to see your name But at that point there's like 20 people. It was I think dishwasher the the newest one that we got but anyway Yeah, um right when rock band came out I did the head-to-head competition and I was able to pretty much perfect any song on like medium is what I would play. And so I would always do head-to-head and as like inevitably the other person would mess up
Starting point is 00:35:14 like one note and I ended up winning like 50 matches in a row and I was tied for first overall. And then I took a photo of it. It was one of my first journals that I could ever wrote on Rooster Teeth as a matter of fact. Yeah. And then yeah. And so took a photo of it and that was pretty cool and then yeah, stop playing my highest ever I was like 26 in the world in dead rising Wow, and when I forgot that one achievement we played for as long as you possibly can I completely did that and then the other person I know who the other person I know who was pretty high already just waved at the door by the way I did. Come on in, Faith.
Starting point is 00:35:46 So Faith is going to come in. So we're going to give this in a second, but we recently changed the way we do RT life. You want to join us on the podcast? You know, my voice is like totally gone. No, that's okay. We just have a quick question asked you. So Faith joined us. She's working with us on RTX this year, and she's helping us.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I'm going to put on this head sponsor. And Faith is a frag doll, former frag doll. Now you are officially retired as a frag doll. I put on this head sponsor. And faith is a fried doll, form a fried doll now. Are you officially retired as a fried doll? I am retired from fried doll, but always a fried doll for life. Yeah, once a fried doll, always a fried doll. So we're talking about leaderboards on Xbox. You're a big FPS person. Yes, I am. What was like your highest ranking ever like on a leaderboard or like in some kind of ranking system? First in the shooter, what was it? Sharp shooter on Rainbow Six Vegas.
Starting point is 00:36:28 So you were number one leaderboard? Yeah, yeah. In Sharp shooter. Yes. So casual. Yeah, clearly. And the other one, Brooke was the other person who was severely high ranked.
Starting point is 00:36:38 She had, I want to say she was like 15th in the world in Galaga. Oh, totally. It's crazy. Like other games, Galaga. Oh, totally. It's crazy. Like, oh, the game's Galaga. That's one that that was a huge arcade game. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Is that an old one? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's like a classic. It's a great version of Space Invaders, essentially. It's a huge arcade game. Like an old school game. Well, that's more impressive than a modern game.
Starting point is 00:36:57 I think so too. I think so too. I think so too. I think so too. I think so too. I think so too. I think so too. I think so too. I think so too. I think so kitchen carnage, annoying orange. I mean, we were two and three and then E3 came and then just wiped all of our scores away
Starting point is 00:37:08 and we got so pissed, we just reached quit. You didn't understand. Like you're sitting there, me and Brooke, for like a month straight would just go and we're trying to get these fruit in the blender and then you have to get them in the air duct and then you have to get them in the cabinet for extra time. And we would like mark little points on where you need to put your finger, the actual part to get it like into the blender like the highest point possible you would mark it on your iPad Brooke marked it with a piece of paper. I just This is why your iPad's broken is what I'm getting at oh no both of our iPads
Starting point is 00:37:37 We have marks where our fingers are going back and forth you've worn down the screen Before the glass like we don't even like I shouldn't even have brought it up on the podcast worn down the screen. We've worn them in glass. We don't even like, I shouldn't even have brought it up on the podcast. That's pretty impressive. That's pretty impressive. So, Faith was in a video, the first video that Faith has been in for us. She was in an RT life video that we just posted, and I'm supposed to do a blog update about
Starting point is 00:37:55 this. It'll probably be out by the time the podcast is up. But we made a change in the way that we do RT life, which is behind the scenes videos for the site, where it started as supposed to be like a look behind the scenes of what we do here on an average day, but then as we tend to do, we started to try to make it as it became a production. Yeah, it became as big as possible. So we started doing these big productions where we were doing stuff like stunts and gags that we don't do. That's not what we do. So instead of like busting out the red to shoot in our two lives. Yeah, lights and all that stuff What I did was I just went out and bought a bunch of flips and put them out everywhere and said okay everybody when you have something Funny you're doing or whatever just pick up a flip or one of these Sony bloggy cameras that we have and Just go around and record and do whatever or if you're like Gavin you have an iPhone. Yeah, that records an HD Just do that. Yeah, which you do all the time. I just film I document everything
Starting point is 00:38:43 So I recorded faith trying to get her attention with her headphones turned on. I, you know, I was trying to talk to you today. Yeah, Adam was like pointing at me. I was in my jam. She, she's super paranoid that other people can hear her music when she has her headphones on. Oh, definitely.
Starting point is 00:38:59 But she fuses to turn her music down. Like she's like, can you hear it? I'm like, yes, she's like, oh, I'm so embarrassed. But then she keeps going. Yeah, I know. So you embarrassed about what you listen to. Oh no way I love myself. So what are you trying to hide it? Because the crap that just happened was in a video where everyone's like her music is so loud and I'm in the doorway shouting towards trying to get her attention like hey faith I don't try to say how loud I have to talk and order together.
Starting point is 00:39:23 You got pretty loud. Today I couldn't get I was four feet away from you and can get you yeah, but nobody you can do music He was like faith faith faith I look she can't hear you. I was having a silent disco. There you go You're wired in like in the was the social network. We've seen the silent discos right where say you go and walk into a party and Every it's just dead silent because everyone's jamming to the music on headphones. Yeah, that sounds awesome. Everyone's just Just think about it though. Everyone's just separate beats and everyone's out of time. Yeah, it's like you're listening to the exact same music But no music in the venue is on your own. It's the same music. It's all same Silent disco silent disco. Yeah, I see the guys improv everywhere do that too Where they'll give everyone an MP3 challenge. MP3 challenge, so it's called.
Starting point is 00:40:05 So everyone has an MP3 and they start it in public based on a time and it gives them instruction. So all of a sudden in like Central Park, 300 people just start all pointing in one direction. And it freaks everybody. Oh, is that how it's actually like calculated or planned is through an MP3? I've seen it in like,
Starting point is 00:40:19 Why wouldn't they just transmit it over? That's one thing they do. That's one thing they do. But then the other ones like, are they freeze in public and things? That's, or they have a bust out and they have a big play. You know, that's kind of stuff that's more rehearsed. But this thing is like they get volunteers and you just have to get the MP3 to listen and just do whatever it says.
Starting point is 00:40:32 It's gotten bigger and bigger every year. It's like thousands of people doing that. Yeah. What is some we were talking about with I am APED at a GDC about the silent disco. I mean, I've never actually walked into a disco where it's dead silent. I never was just like, dude, dude, dude, but I don't know. I've never actually walked into a disco where it's dead silent and never was just like DOOM, DOOM, DOOM, but I don't know. I've never actually walked into a disco. So if you're in that with no headphones, all you can hear is people like grunting and breathing. Exactly! I mean, just imagine the possibility of that. Okay, well, thank you for joining us.
Starting point is 00:40:58 So Faith is gonna be working on RTX stuff, as you guys know, RTX is this summer in Austin. July 7th and 8th. July 7th and 8th. Be there and be square And this has been a fun week to kind of get ready for kind of pumped for RTX because we've had thanks faith So we've had South by Southwest in town all week and it's been crazy because people come in from all over to You know see a say hello and we had a fun party with blip where we did a live a version of red versus blue That was fun. That was fun. It went really well.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Despite the technical issues and the rain. I think it was technical issues. Oh, it's like God. I mean, live head bobbing. I mean, I think Gus had my favorite ad lib when I think Simmons was just looking off into the sky and Gus was like, hey, look at that plane, sorry. It was pretty fun stuff. By the thing we bumped to HaloCare together and one just pushes the other off screen.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I believe I said out of my way, bitch. And then we had a, as we, if you can, I don't know if that I don't think this was recorded, but we did once before, not a live performance, but we did a table read at Halo Fest. Yeah, I think it was recording. I think we linked it. I think it was on the IGN page. I'm saying our live performance was not recorded. The Halo Fest one was. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Yeah, that was fun. So that we did the same kind of thing where we had a member from the audience come up and Provide sound effects and this time we had a girl from the audience come up and girls just can't do sound effects We said what do a gun firing and she goes Getting after her saying that's a laser that's a laser and then she had to play a taco salesman and oh god
Starting point is 00:42:40 We said give us your best taco salesman and she's the most racist thing and we said give us your best taco sales minute and she's the most racist thing ever done in front of a hundred people. See if you're in England, freedom of speech you should have been arrested and sent to the what is it what is it what you sent to the president. The bog. What do you call it? The boxy. The boxy. The boxy. My name is boxy. So we're looking at special guests for RTX and boxy showed up on the list. We talked about box boxy for a little while to go out there and find boxy and apparently she's returned to the internet Yeah, she got terribly famous hope bee and you hope me she got terribly famous Because of a site that will not be named and then vanished and now she I guess doesn't have the The popularity she wants this look now she wants that again, so she came back. Oh, don't don't get her motivations
Starting point is 00:43:23 Maybe she's doing it for fun. Okay I don't know she'm on you Jack. You like hard me. She's all got a void in her life She's just trying to impress me. It's not gonna work I know the queen by name so I'm a shelf-life stuff are you doing this you bring are you on any movies or anything? Wait did you have a panel this week? I did I had a panel on Sunday It was me and a guy who I had never met. There's tends to be in like online video. People that you that you like guy behind the guy kind of a deal. So Smosh was in Red versus Blue Season 9. Eating an Anthony
Starting point is 00:43:56 from Smosh who were the enormous YouTube channel and they make funny videos. And I met their guy, their business guy. He was on the panel with me. And I didn't know there was a business guy at Smosh. Yeah. And he, apparently they had, I didn't know the Smosh sold to alloy digital media. Like, and they're now in the same family of shows as like gossip girl and stuff like that. So it's really interesting. So he had a lot to say. And then speaking of live streaming stuff, one of the other people in the panel was a guy by name of of he goes by day nine Okay, which is that he streams
Starting point is 00:44:28 Starcraft tournaments, which is like if you're gonna stream anything just go ahead and stream starcraft tournaments Yeah, the most popular thing dear Lord you people watch the fuck on a starcraft Have you actually watched one like saddened watch those things? No the commentators are fantastic Like they make me feel bad about what I do Like these guys I mean they're like pro commentators I mean they know the games back to front and they just sit there and explain what's going on So they actually playing or just watching they're just watching there's spectator mode where it just unlocks It's like unlocks the whole map and you can float around and they'll point out different stuff going on
Starting point is 00:44:56 Be like always using this strategy. Look. He's putting these guys here like always you know He's obviously using this technique and this is so there's fast they're tipping off the other team is what you see No, I don't think they do this live I think they work like they'll get the replays and then do commentary over the replay. Oh, well, it's easy to do that then Well, I mean I guess so but I mean still like these guys do it like a meeting. No, these guys are like each sports guys Yeah, these guys are pro like a really good dudes, so I know Fwiz He does what he does and he's excellent at it. Yeah, yeah, so is that business live streaming? There's a lot of money to be made?
Starting point is 00:45:25 Each esports is getting bigger all the time, and esports seems to be the best application of live streaming. Like we even talked about 24,000 people watching that stream that night. I mean, that's not a lot of people. I mean, when we talk about videos, we have, you know, one of the fan made, I think it's not a fan, you know what I mean, but RTAA, he had a million views on his video. That makes more sense to us,
Starting point is 00:45:46 but live streams just getting bigger and bigger. Yeah. Guys like me and Gus, we don't think of the internet as being live. No. We think of carrier pigeons. She's basically like, I mean like bandwidth is getting so cheap now and like you're able to push the stuff out quicker
Starting point is 00:45:58 and quality is getting better and so that's where it's gonna be. I mean, you know, they always say like the, you know, the internet's gonna take over television. Like it'll have like, you know, internet box in early. It's not, it's not the data to me though you know, they always say like the you know the internet's gonna take over television Like it'll have like you know internet box in early. It's not it's not the data to me though It's I don't show up at the internet when the internet tells me to I go to the internet when I want to I pull everything I want even the internet is pull yeah even sometimes when you go on YouTube and this like a bar at the top saying watch this live thing It's not I'm gonna watch that now right why don't watch that now. I'm doing other stuff on the internet I wait to hear it was good and I've been a long time. And so our thing is like, when we look at,
Starting point is 00:46:26 we're gonna business talk here, you have to look at you. So when we look at Rishi's looks at live as like a business, we don't look at it so much as a big numbers thing, but how can we have better interaction? Like how can we have live interaction? Cause that's something you don't get. I mean, you can sit there in YouTube comments
Starting point is 00:46:39 and do that stuff, but even when you sit in like a, you know, video thread, and you try to comment to people, I mean, that just gets stuck. It's buried Yeah, I'll start everyone's watching at different times are commenting on different things So how long is it gonna be until someone's life is on a permanent live stream? Oh people people used to do that building that bad long time ago Yeah, there was like is there someone who's just been live streaming for the last you know five years I think people think most of her is a year at a time. Yeah, yeah
Starting point is 00:47:04 There was in that remember that was that old-site Jenni cam? Jenni cam, the Irish mid-90s. Yeah. I'm gonna look it up to see how long that went up, because I thought that was several years. Yeah, she was on loan all the time. She was like the first cam girl. Yeah, she was like a live, like a live logger.
Starting point is 00:47:17 And then, I mean, Zay Frank in a way was almost that. He had to show a day for Zay Frank's coming back. Zay Frank's so excited about that. I hope it's huge. Dude, yeah, he did that kickstarter, and the thing exploded. You know, the funny thing is, is Frank, He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. He was there for him. a video for the day. It was very, he's in addition to be a very creative guy. He's a very intelligent, savvy, technical guy as well. So he creates things that are cool. Like he creates games, he has iPhone apps and everything else.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Yeah, it's a really. Yeah, it's a great thing to me. It's like to me, it's like the perfect example of someone that should be on the internet. Yeah. I mean, it's like, you know, he's the internet's tailor made for him and he's tailor made for the internet. He's motivated and he's creative and he gets it and again He gets in a large audience that appreciates his stuff like world like world sandwich like that
Starting point is 00:48:10 That's genius. Come on now. Yeah, so world sandwich was where they tried to get two people on opposite ends of the world and put down a piece of bread So like so you'll turn the planet into a sandwich And so they were trying to figure out locations world is actually physically possible to do this So the same time, you know, it's someone taking a sandwich. Pretty badass. It was like a special giant piece of bread. No, I think it was a regular piece of bread. But they did like that. He's on that. He did, um, young me, old me, or was it? Or young me, present me, or I feel what it was, but it was like people trying to replicate photos from their kids. Okay, those are always cool. Yeah, he actually made a book out of that thing. So same same shirts same setting all that stuff
Starting point is 00:48:46 Yeah, I love that and I love them people do the thing with a take a postcard or an old photograph and try to hold it up in the current place Mm-hmm. That's cool. I like that alignment stuff. Do you ever see the We were looking at for character reference for red versus blue season 10 did you ever see the art exhibit that somebody did where they took siblings and close relatives and took pictures of their faces and then matched them. Yeah. Like blended them together right down the middle line of the midline of their face. It's pretty cool. It was pretty good. Some of them were like mothers and daughters and parents and children and things like that. And one of the most interesting ones to me was twins. And you see like they don't look alike. You know, I mean it looks like two different. And also the way they chose to do their hair, like he would blend their hair styles
Starting point is 00:49:27 together. And it's really, it's really impressive. We'll put a link to that. Anyway, so is it Frank? He had a actually a show that he put it was it five times a week or is it four times a week? Well, online. Yeah, online. It was like, it was five times a week. Well, it was it. It was pre-YouTube. I mean, those on his own site. On his own site, safefrank.com. Yeah, is it Frank.com slash the show? I think it's what it was. But, and it was just like, like a daily update of like what was kind of going on in politics, but like a smart look at it. And then you know also, you know, whatever it was going on in his life, you talk about
Starting point is 00:49:53 like going to conventions and things like that and getting trapped in hotel rooms with people he didn't know about. And then he had songs occasionally. Funny funny dude, real real smart, very happy to see you. So he's coming back to the internet. Yes. Was it Where's he been? He needed the attention of the internet. He didn't have it anymore No, like he's been touring around doing his own, you know doing all kinds of stuff like like Bernie said making games and you know doing websites and Going on TV shows and giving Ted speeches or Ted talks
Starting point is 00:50:20 Mm-hmm man Ted talks you get hooked into those things you watch one is like oh that one looks interesting What's your favorite one? Adam Savage. He does one on obsession. That's fascinating. It's like 15 minutes long. I like the one where they get the lasers that kill mosquitoes. This is like fucking hate mosquitoes.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Oh, those are blue lasers? Yeah. It's like a tracking system that monitor, that detects some mosquitoes and shoots them with a laser. It's like, wow, they do live on stage. Yeah, well, in the stage, on stage, you just put it in targeting mode so you can see it illuminate the mosquitoes. It doesn't actually shoot them.
Starting point is 00:50:50 But they have video of the... The wireless power one was pretty cool too. Did you see that one? Oh, wireless power? Yeah, like they were able to power a TV, like walk between it. Whoa, that's trippy. So I'm showing them the pictures of the faces. Make sure you email me that.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Oh well, it's called split family faces on my modern and that's like the, yeah, it's seamless. It's so well done, yeah. It's very well done. Yeah, and with relatives, even male to female like that. It's just like, it's really cool. So it's really cool, right there? No, no, no, that's not to me.
Starting point is 00:51:19 That's guy who's 30 and his brother who's 29. Wow, so maybe they were born in two different years, Gus. So it could happen. That's crazy to you. That's a father and a son. Well, yeah, so we were looking at this too because we have a AI character in a season 10 that's two two entities and one essentially. Really? Yes, boiler. Yeah, boiler. I can't read the script. That's a twin. Oh, yeah. So a little different like nose and everything. Yeah, a little bit different. Just a tiny little bit. It needs to show like how life changes people, you know I mean that's not all just genetics beats you down nature versus murder beats you down. It wears you down
Starting point is 00:51:53 So who watched Jeff and me play baseball I Watched some of it, but it's 30 minutes. I watched all of it and it was fucking funny. I sat in there a bit Well, y'all were recording It was probably the most Most of it I laughed while I'd make it a video Jeff actually had to get up in the middle of recording and go to the bathroom because he thought he pooped That's terrifying. I'm watching it. Oh, you should have you ever shit your pants cam? When I was a kid I did a lot. I'm sure everybody did No, I tend to see like. I sure everybody did. No, I tend to see if like you can remember.
Starting point is 00:52:25 No. Okay, now that we need a tone or a music cue or something when the podcast takes the dark turn, at least we were talking about execution. Oh, it took the dark turn. Yeah, we're out of the dark turn, man. Like we were not ending on the dark. So guys, have you ever pooped your pants?
Starting point is 00:52:41 I shit my pants when I was five or six. So you remember the last time I remember it? So you remember, I remember craped your pants. I shit my pants when I was five or six. So you remember the last time I remember it? So you remember, I remember crap in my pants. I was in kindergarten. And in our kindergarten class, there was like, we had our own bathroom that like it was in the class. You didn't have to leave the classroom to go to it.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And I remember I had to go. It was a bathroom. So I got up and someone was in there. So like, it's about a resurrected survivor. I should have let him out. There's like a little plastic chair in front of it. So I sat there and I was waiting. It was very really needed to go to the guy who was in there forever. You wouldn't come out. And finally, I would just sit in there and I remember I just, I shit my pants.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I told the teacher I was like, I crap my pants. I go to the office, I called your parents. I remember I went to the office. I was like, you need to call my mom. I shit my pants. I was like, okay, I remember the secretary was like, why don't you wait outside in the hall and you put your chair out for me because I guess it's stank. And so I was like, you need to call my mom, I shit my pants. Like, okay, I remember, the secretary was like, why don't you wait outside in the hall and you put a chair out for me, because I guess it's stank. And so I was sitting there in the hall, school, like, with shit in my pants. I remember this older kid walked by,
Starting point is 00:53:34 he must have been like a fifth or sixth grader, right? He walks by and he gets like in front of me and he stops and I could see him, like, start smelling the air. And he turns and looks at me and he goes, did you? And I was like, yes, yes, ugh. And he's like, what?
Starting point is 00:53:44 What the fuck? Nobody let you go clean up or anything? And he turns it looks at me and he goes, did you? And I was like, yes. Yes. Ugh. What? What the fuck? Nobody let you go clean up or anything? I don't know. I guess not. No. You're there for like third meeting. I was there waiting.
Starting point is 00:53:52 My mom came pick me up. I was like, all right. Take you home. I'm like, shit in my pants. That's a call I've never got to work. You need to come here and pick a kid because they shit their pants. What about you, birdie beds?
Starting point is 00:54:02 What's that? Pooh. No, I don't think so. I mean, I don't. I've had some shock vomit incidents. Shocked. What about you, birdie birds? What's that poo? I've had some shock vomit incidents. Shock what is that? Just like where I just throw up but without really like you know something you feel sick it's like I could actually throw up but I'm not gonna not go to the toilet because I'm probably holding and I was just sat at my laptop and I was I did it like a really nasty burp I was like oh my god and I was like
Starting point is 00:54:25 I totally almost threw up like I totally almost threw up so I was like I'm fine and all of a sudden it just went I like caught it all in my mouth like my cheeks were full man and I was like, I was sat on my laptop. I was like, shut my laptop. It's a Mac, but I'm not gonna, so I'm like, get up, sorry. And all this time I was like, round two. And it went again, and the picture of mouth was already full. Oh, it just went, it just went, and I was like, squashed my mouth, but, oh, over the walls and door.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I was like, I was like, oh, it's like, I have a horrible gag. I was like, I see nothing. And it was the kind of thing I thought I was like, and it was the kind of thing that afterwards, I was looking around, I was just like, where do I stop? Like, which bit do I clean first? Yeah, one time I had food poisoning,
Starting point is 00:55:18 and I was laying in bed, and I felt awful. And then all of a sudden, there was the same thing, it was like, oh, I'm gonna throw up, I'm gonna throw up. And I got up to leave the bedroom to go run to the bathroom. And like, as I opened the door, I start vomiting. And you're like, you said I put my hand on my mouth, but it just created like, shit stream. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I'm gonna pressurize
Starting point is 00:55:31 and you start shooting it. And I was like, run to the toilet, but like it all falls in. And then as soon as I was done, I felt better. And I was like, you know, my bathroom was just covered in a few, like, now you gotta start cleaning. Gross. I'm pretty proud that I've only thrown up
Starting point is 00:55:44 not in a toilet twice in my life. Where was it? I actually, one time I got really, really drunk in a friend's pool and getting drunk on the pool. No, no, no, I'm not. I'm not in the pool. I didn't drop in the pool. I mean, it was clear of that.
Starting point is 00:55:56 Have you ever gotten drunk in a pool? It's tricky because you're already like, you're floating so you don't realize how drunk you are. I stepped out of the pool and was like, oh my god, I am fucked up right now. I am destroyed. First of all, go back one second. You're floating in the pool?
Starting point is 00:56:09 Oh, no, it was like a normal pool. Like you're in the pool. So I was like, you know, water's up to my neck or whatever. Oh, so it's kind of walk around. I'm like, check on a raft. Yeah, no, oh man. Oh, man. You get out and just kind of hits you.
Starting point is 00:56:18 It was like, oh my god. And so like, I immediately dropped to my knees and like, where can I throw up? And he's pointed to me as far away as I could. So I crawled to like, to his fence line and a pen. Have you ever drank in a hot tub? It's like the worst thing you can do. Yeah, I've done that hydrating yourself, right? It I don't know what happens But you just have a couple of beers and then you like stand up and you immediately fall over Yeah, yeah, in the hot tub in the sun is even worse. Yeah, if you get fucked. Yeah
Starting point is 00:56:41 You're poisoning yourself. Yeah, well, yeah I mean anytime you drink you're poisoning yourself. That's why. Well, yeah, I mean, anytime you drink, you're poisoning yourself. Let's be realistic. We're poisoning and cooking yourself at the same time. One of the first times I came here, I went tubing with you, Gus. And I'm tubing. And I'm tubing. Dan was there. Dan Godwin. Like, Gus, you went tubing. I went tubing before. Yeah. So we were just there. Like, you have, you have the one that you sit in and then there's like one third drinks right and so you can just pull a drink and I had a few drinks and You passed me your can to like put in the little net because you didn't want to chuck your own can in the river and I was just like I was like trying to get the can in the net and I it wouldn't happen I was like oh can't do it and you were just looking at me you're just like you drunk
Starting point is 00:57:21 You know what I think I totally am but I didn't feel it, because I just like floating down the river. But it's like, I just couldn't, like my arms just wouldn't, I was like, why isn't this, just, one time, a really rough time. One time when I went tubing, me and another friend of mine decided it would be a good idea instead of taking a bunch of beer cans and having to deal with that.
Starting point is 00:57:37 We each decided to buy a box of wine and just take the bag out of the box and have it with us that we could just drink from that the entire time. Classic. I got so fucked up that what I ended up passing out and I don't remember this other people had to take care of me. Thank God they were there I passed out and I drifted into the weeds like I wasn't moving anywhere
Starting point is 00:57:54 I was stuck in the weeds like they have to come and get me like put me back in the river and then like I was like our past out for any I was under water I woke up and I was another like, I was jumping and I was like scrambling to the surface. Did you think you were being born? I didn't mean that.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Everything else was just a dream bleeding up to this. I'm actually being born. Like, Nia, wake up. It was real well. It was crazy. Oh my god. That's insane, dude. Yeah, it was awful.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And then like in this back when I had like really short hair. Yeah. And then like I had burned my entire scalp and it all like came off in one piece and had like tiny holes in it for my hair I feel awesome Like it's some satisfying well gross. Did you keep that? No, no, it was like By the way an excellent way to get melanoma. Yeah, so you know Is if you shave your head cuz your head is not not typically exposed to that. What's melanoma? That's skin cancer? Yeah, I see cancer. Yeah tubing is awesome, and that's so much fun to do Yeah, for the first 15 30 minutes and then you realize you've gone there for fucking three hours
Starting point is 00:58:58 That's why don't go anymore is because like I want to go and then it's just such a long time commitment So what it's just such a long time commitment. So what? It's relaxing. You know what's relaxing? See, don't my fucking couch. Not getting skin cancer, not waking up underwater. That's relaxing. I've heard about you being on the couch. I've heard about people going over to Gus' house in the weekend.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Like hey, we're in the neighborhood. Let's go buy and see Gus. Don't fucking do that. No, don't do that. No. Because you knock and he's like, what do you want? Like in the door, like, who are you? Get out.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Go away. Well, in the realm of mobile phones phones you never just turn up as someone's door do you ever? No I'm not done that. You don't do that anyway. I mean you just text and say I'm going out you want to go out Yeah, it doesn't actually we went to San Francisco a couple weeks ago And it was like the most time I think I've ever spent with Gus outside of the office. Yeah, it was awful People having to see them and talk to them and be nice to them. Being nice to the worst part. We went to dinner the other night with someone like a business associate and it was like right after we recorded the last week's podcast and it was like a nightmare come true for me.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I was the first person to show up and so I had to put our name on the list and I stood there in this crowded restaurant with like people everywhere just like being loud and Like coughing and not covering their mouths and just being obnoxious and it's like Oh, I wanted to I wanted to find it. You're leaving a very funny one out to explain to me when we did it You said they people were being loud and they were obnoxious and they were sneezing and coughing and some of them were being kids God kids and kids are fucking worse. I'm sorry. I guess people put up with their own kids, but it's like, oh my God, anytime I see kids, it's like, get the fuck away from you. This is my nightmare.
Starting point is 01:00:31 You are like a walking germ factory that is loud. You're everything I hate about the world. It's children. Children. Children. Something about, I was talking to Michael about this yesterday, about how spitting on, like if you were in a fight with someone, and they just gobbed on your face. That's so insulting like it's more insulting than being punched I spit I spit on Jeff for me did that history of Halo thing
Starting point is 01:00:58 It's just like I spit on him and then shut him like I can understand like getting a fight and someone punching me in the face But then if he go up to me, but I like I do Like I can understand like getting a fight and someone punch me in the face, but then if he go up to me I'm like oh dude Then you'll be really upset. Yeah, what's a gob is like? And then it's fit. Yeah, oh yes Nice big Lougey Have you ever been in a proper fight? Yeah, no, I let's do it. Have you been in an improper fight? Yeah, you have you got to fight the bar in the pub I got out of the fight in the bar. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:01:26 The the blood stains the pub the blood pop blood pub Yeah, you heard the story right where he like there was just a giant bar fight Like it was like 50 dudes like brawl and oh geez and then I got out of there went back in like went back through to the toilet And in the toilet was just blood all up the floor and all up the walls even up to the ceiling and I was like, it looked like someone stood in the middle and just went You know how they exploded? 1202? You know how in Watchman, Dr. Manhattan could just pop. It was like that. It was like Have you ever encountered like just random blood while you've been downtown like in a bar or anything?
Starting point is 01:02:02 I don't think so. One time I was walking, I don't know why, I was in that bar they called the library downtown. Oh yeah, yeah. I walked in and they have that staircase that goes upstairs. Yeah. At the bottom of the stairs there was a caution, wet floor thing and I was like okay, I better be careful. And I looked and it was just a giant pool of blood.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Wow. I was like, what do they have the time to put the sign on? Why is anybody here cleaning it? Fuck, I wouldn't do that. I was like, I do they have the time to put the sign on? Why is anybody here cleaning it? Fuck, I wouldn't do that. I didn't mean to get out. I was like, I'll go get the sign. Have you ever encountered a large amount of blood? In the UK, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:31 You're talking about a couple of other sites. Oh, were you there? No, I was with him in Lester. Yeah, and we were in the UK. Not only until the story, but Sam Duncan was awesome. Yeah, it was a pool of blood on cobblestones that I could see. It's porous material and somehow enough blood and blood. And it's like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:02:48 So Gav, you've never been in an actual fight. I haven't. Me neither. You're not gonna fight? Yeah, let's do it. I'm nippy. God, I would love to. I encountered a car wreck once that left.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Just blood everywhere on the highway. That's horrible. I mean, I don't think anyone made me laugh about wreck. Dark terror. Dun, dun, dun. Someone tell creepy story that's not really that gross. I mean like I don't think anyone made a lot of that right doctor So I want to tell creepy story that's not really that gross have I ever told you the like the creepiest story that I've ever heard So should we turn the lights off and get a flashlight if you want to turn lights off is super creepy so that was just a title on FARC They're doing to say the Queen's name three times. Yes exactly if you know it And then she goes she shows up and goes that's not it
Starting point is 01:03:26 So there was a just a thing in in the park where somebody just threw out there, hey, what's the creepiest weirdest thing that's ever happened to you? Yeah. And everyone, it wasn't like Reddit where stuff ranks up. So you would have to like read through everything and then all of a sudden there'd be a bunch of comments about one. You'd go back and find the word people were commenting about. And this guy told this story about traveling and he was traveling from one state to another and he decided, you know what, I always go through the highways and I never go through the mountain roads which are much shorter than I would go through the main highway. So I'm just going through the mountain road and see what that's like.
Starting point is 01:04:03 So he's driving at night and he's like the like these rural appellation mountains and it's the middle of the night, okay? Desolate road like he's actually afraid like talking about it. This is all from memory here, too I'm telling the story he was afraid that like it was gonna like go down to like one lane or like gravel at one point It's like a shit. Maybe I shouldn't done this. So he's just going this is like middle of nowhere two lane road And he comes around this pass up in the mountains mountains, comes on this pass, and there's a fucking car wreck. And there's these cars, and they're all just there, and the blinkers are on, like the hazards are on, and they're sitting there.
Starting point is 01:04:32 And there's bodies from the car wreck laying in the road. And I don't know if he said he was a paramedic himself, or if he knew his paramedic, and he stomped his... Oh shit, he goes to get out, and he goes... This doesn't look exactly right. Like something about it was like spider sense, or whatever, he's tingling goes to get out and he goes, this doesn't look exactly right. Like something a bonnet was like spider sense or whatever, just tingling or whatever. So he thinks, okay, so he drives very carefully,
Starting point is 01:04:50 and it's in the road. So he drives through the scene of the accident, like around the body, he's like looking at them there, and they're laying on the ground, bloody or whatever. Decides is gonna pull up a little bit and then come back to it to help people. Like he just thought he would do that. So it does that, It drives slowly through everything.
Starting point is 01:05:05 It gets around the bodies and all that stuff and drives up about 40 to 50 feet stops, turns around. All the bodies are sitting up and looking at him down the road and 30 or 40 people have come out of the bushes on the side of the road and all looking down the road. Oh God. These mountain people in the middle of the night
Starting point is 01:05:21 had staged this accident and he just fucking gunned it and got out of there that Jesus Christ that lives with me to this day him telling that story so why was this this moment of all he's staring like now 30 total people in the face like in the rearview mirror who are looking after him like they're highlighted by his tail lights in the room and he's like um get the fuck out of here something something similar, oh, sorry. Something similar. I mean, you wonder what would happen? What would happen? I heard of similar things out on the board. And I grew up on the board of Mexico where I've never heard of the two cars just faking a crash, but I've known people who'd come across like a minivan, like in the middle of the road, turn at an angle with the blinkers on and then
Starting point is 01:06:01 people lying across the road blocking it. That they try to get you to stop to take your car to then there's a bunch of other illegal aliens waiting off on the side of the road who then just taking your get in your car and leave. But they don't like that you get your car. Maybe. I don't know anyone who ever actually got stopped like that. Everyone knows when you see that you just drive around it. Just running dudes over. It's like Grand Theft Auto. They're in the country illegally the free. You see the video of the truck. So there's a truck at like a planned parenthood or something like that, like trying to get into
Starting point is 01:06:29 plan parenthood, but they had these you know anti-abortion crusaders that literally were laying in front of the vehicle and he didn't see them lay down so he just drove up. Oh my god. No one died or anything like there's a couple injuries, but it was still like and then you hear these people screaming, what are you doing? And it's like literally people laying in front of a truck and they're screaming at the driver, what are you doing? Yeah, if you're laying in the road. If you're running over people, I would ask you what you're doing, too.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Well, I mean, he didn't see them because his vision was blocked by someone standing in front of him. So he didn't see people lay down. So he's from Ford and his rental. They're like three people. It is a level of acceptance. If you lay down in front of the bulldozer, the bulldozer's not going to run over me.
Starting point is 01:07:03 That's what that's the hope. What are you doing? so I'm what am I doing? I'm recording you because Gavin took off his sweatshirt and his hair Ridiculous you look like a kitty doll like you're here. So I'm recording this. I don't know your hair's like I'll spiky and weird Everywhere that face like you just want to I don't hurt Gavin Yeah, Jeff said that to me like he was I was like I was not hurt Gavin. What? What is that? Yeah, Jeff Smith said that to me. Like, he was, I don't feel that way. I was sat with Jeff, I heard him, and he was just like, you know, I want to punch you.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Man, I just got up and kind of punched him. And he just shoved Gavin as the wall yesterday. It was like the most rewarding thing ever. I'm getting them done. Did you make sweet, sweet love? No, no, no. Don't do that. You throw a shoe at his face.
Starting point is 01:07:37 Don't push, don't push, don't push, don't push, don't push, don't push, don't do that. You literally throw a shoe, you kick your shoe at Gavin's head, and you tell me not to push him? I do kick my shoe at Gavin. I almost broke so much The other day I made kind of a kicking motion to Gavin to like give his attention and he flinched I Have kicked my leg and he's like I'm pretty flinch here. I haven't opened a door without peeking around it for a long time Yeah, now I just make Kung Fu noise
Starting point is 01:08:16 Oh, it's got up retro has got up to us. What is with it? Well, wait, not what is with it? What is with Americans and birthdays? They're a big deal here They are like a birthday is like everyone. It's my birthday Yeah, it depends on the birth date. Yeah, it depends on the person. Jordan says that depends on the person. No, Jordan says that too. She's like, she's like, I said, I'm going to a birthday party. She goes, fuck, how old is that person? I go, they're turning 30 and she's like, and they're having a fucking birthday party. I'm like, won't be like, birthday parties? Is that what people do? She's like, fuck, we'll go to that. I'm gonna celebrate my birthday. So long. Did I tell you about that woman on the plane? So long, you're like 12. The woman on the plane, they did what? I was, it was probably three years ago.
Starting point is 01:08:45 I was flying, oh that's a good show. I was flying to Austin, Texas. And I think I was flying from London to Chicago first. And I was asleep. I was thinking I've got to, I want to get some sleep on this flight. So, you know, it's shorter. And some fat, stupid American woman stood up, woke me up.
Starting point is 01:09:04 She like shook me. I was like like days I was like what's going on and she was like It's my daughter's birthday. Can you sign this piece of paper? I'm getting everyone to sign it and I look everyone on the plane. She's like she wanted everyone to write happy birthday to a daughter and I just looked her in the eye I was like Crazy Relentic. I didn't do someone You're crazy. You're lunatic. I didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Someone woke me up. I couldn't believe it. She was getting everyone. On a transatlantic flight, I would fucking murder them. What the hell is her problem? It happened to me too. There's nothing better than sleeping on a plane. Yeah, everyone's sleeping on a plane.
Starting point is 01:09:37 You're sleeping in your own bed. It's better. No, it's a good time to work. Yeah, if you're on a plane, sleeping is the best thing you possibly do. It's like a teleporting. Yeah, exactly. So like, after I said no to her she she was like oh It's like kind of annoyed and then she started pushing the person next to me. I was on the aisle She was then leaning across me saying hey, and I was like I can't believe what's happening. This is crazy
Starting point is 01:09:56 That's insanity. That's insanity and then and when the plane landed she got up and she was like But they go says thanks like to everyone on the plane. How old was this kid like seven or something? Oh my god, and everyone's just like Start off Wow, wow unbelievable. And so she was American is what you're saying so that yeah I mean she would never get American mercenaries. Of course no gap. She was fat stupid American Yeah, is that what you said? She also tried to pull a baggage out of the overhead while we were on the descent like we hadn't even hit the floor Mm-hmm. She did everything wrong. She did everything wrong She was
Starting point is 01:10:30 Regulate God nothing pisses me off more than when you see people put two bags in the overhead bin now Like that drives me nuts really nothing makes you worse Really it's like it all like the flight is clear So I go, okay one you put one bag up top one underneath your feet and then like're gonna get on the ladder, stop! It's like nothing at all, like the flight is clear, it's like okay, one, you know, put one bag up top, one underneath your feet, and then like you'll get on late, and it's like, well everything's taken, and then you see them getting off the plane and pulling off like three bags. I do, I do that all the time. Earlier, we talked about the possibility of being incorrectly executed.
Starting point is 01:10:57 It bothers you that people have put two bags in the overhead bin. I want to murder them. Nothing makes you better. Nothing makes you better than the two bags. On a plane, yes. God, I think this is what the internet has done. It has like raised minutiae to that is our life now. We live in that minutiae level and we just like exist there.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Well, if we're talking about plane flights, this is what drives me crazy on plane. No, what it is now is everything's the best and everything's the worst. Yeah. I tend to do that a lot though. Yeah, I think it would be excited about stuff, either Twitter or bad. everything's the best and everything's worse. Yeah, I didn't do that a lot though Yeah, we excited about stuff either better bad What's the point of what's point of what's point of you like you would get ready sorry, but oh this is a out of 10
Starting point is 01:11:37 Never gonna be like almost the best. No, it ever says this is the top 10 best things I've ever done Yeah, everybody does that it's the best. I mean the best. Oh, it's the best We're the worst or the worst or worst. We're basically the angry. Well that's what we're talking about, social media stuff. Because everyone in social media is this big, huge, gigantic community lie where people post all this stuff about their lives and it's like all the stuff they're doing that's exciting and fun or whatever. And that's what they do.
Starting point is 01:12:01 They like cherry pick the best moment of life. So it seems like everyone has these awesome lives and nobody ever talks about like I forgot I'm up to my I ball some tape Yeah I'm sorry about it. Yeah, well more and then there are the handful people with that's all that they do all they do is Complain and then they seem like just maniacs Well, you got like a human bullhorn where like no matter what you say ends up on the internet like those people drive me crazy too Where it's like okay okay, you're off. Yeah, some people in my office, but.
Starting point is 01:12:27 This is a big topic of discussion with you, buddy, about, you know, like social meter and the illusion of social media. But why is it picked up? Just, it's like we work for a social media company or something, Jesus. No, I think, who cares? I here's why.
Starting point is 01:12:39 People use it like they use, I think it can negatively affect people. I think as people can be out there and if they're on social media, they can see other people and they think like, I'm not doing enough or I'm not living in society. They think they're like it's incomplete. They can get that from a TV though. What's your reality show?
Starting point is 01:12:53 But yes, theoretically there's people that actually know though and this is their real lives. TV's made up. I don't think the opinion is that social media is not made up, even though it is. That's what I'm saying. It's a constructed reality. So when you tweet, is it all like what kind of stuff do you tweet? If I get like say in an argument with my wife or if I have a thing where it's like I have
Starting point is 01:13:14 a performance and I'm disappointed in it, I'm not going to write, hey, I was on the podcast saying I thought it was okay. You know, like, I just, you don't do that. It's like, we did this. It was great. That was awesome. You know what I mean? It's just, you know, like, I just, you don't do that. It's like, oh, we did this, it was great. Yeah, it was awesome. You know what I mean? It's just, you know, you don't do that kind of stuff. Like, people aren't going to share their actual things that are going on. And then anyone's life, you have these things you hit
Starting point is 01:13:33 that are hard to deal with. And it's like, fuck am I really personally dealing with this kind of shit? And it's like, you're creating a character of yourself on the internet. A version of yourself. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're posting the diamonds,
Starting point is 01:13:43 and you have to sift through a lot of dirt to get the diamonds Does that make sense? Yeah, absolutely. Look at that. I would have gone with gold I just made a med of something. I don't want to say gold on the podcast cuz I want to fucking read the comments It's like summoning Joel. It's a thing like the D.Y. Why three times Joel. Hey, man appears. He's sliding down a pole right now from the second floor Did you watch gold rush have we talked about this anybody? I've seen season one because it's streaming on it Oh my god that shows so awesome awesome. Gold Rush is a group of guys who go to Alaska to mine for gold and they don't know what the fuck they're doing and it's basically they've like sunk all their money into like
Starting point is 01:14:14 buying this equipment to mine for gold and they have no idea what's going on and they're like they read a book about it. Yeah, it's wow Fascinating. It's just like watching these guys tear their hair out. Like nothing happens in an episode, it'll be like an hour long episode and they'll do like they'll dig one hole. I'm like, okay, that's it. And then that's what we get frustrated about that show. It's like, will they find gold this week? No, you know, after an hour, it's like, no, stay tuned, maybe they will next week. It'll be next week with an hour. No, it could be the end of the mind. So here we're like, what didn't happen? But they're going to continue on. No, no, no, no. Well, the opinion is too is happened, but they're going to continue on. No, that dammit. Well, the opinion is too, is like you find gold.
Starting point is 01:14:48 I mean, you find gold is like this much, but like a little nugget. They go through tons and tons of material to get ounces of gold. Like flakes. Yeah. Yeah. And I read a stat one time, you know, diamonds,
Starting point is 01:15:00 it was a debirz is the diamond cartel essentially. And that they have Vaults filled with diamonds that most diamonds are actually used for industrial purposes and not for what we you know Right, I drill that stuff. Yeah, they find diamonds all the time and debirs has like falsely raised or actually they falsely I mean they've been inflate the market they inflate the market Thank you, and they hide they stock stockpile diamonds to make this kind of enforced fabricated scarcity of diamonds The gold is actually really scarce Gold is I read one time that all the gold that has ever been mine in the history of the world would fitness-winning pool
Starting point is 01:15:36 Wow, yeah, it was a really shockingly small amount. Yes, really it's very dense It's very dense. So it's a lot of weight But yeah, all the gold that's ever been mine that we own That's out of the crust of the earth is what fitness winning so that what's the biggest Storage of gold that exists. It's a swimming pool the size of Kansas No, but it's a regular swimming pool. What's the biggest what what was the biggest stash of gold at the moment? Well, we have a big stonic in America called Fort Knox. Yeah, it's like that. It's what our movie It's what our entire currency in the country used to be based on
Starting point is 01:16:05 So if you had a dollar it was represented by a certain amount of gold in Fort Knox. So now there's actually more cash than there is go way more. Yeah, when did that happen? Want to say Nixon 68? 60s. Why did that have to happen? Because we needed to print more money and we turned to what they call fiat currency But why did you have to print more money? How is Joel Joel not in this room right now? I know, Jesus. How do we do what? Pizzies are fucking on fire. We just, we went off the gold standard.
Starting point is 01:16:31 And to now money is represented by the security essentially of the country. And to essentially, I have a piece of paper, I warrant that this equals a dollar and you agree as well. And it's just an agreed upon value. That's what a fiat currency is. And you can't talk about it for too long
Starting point is 01:16:44 because then everything's part. Yeah, basically. That's what a fee on currency is. And you can't talk about it for too long because then everything's part. Yeah, basically. I was actually a pretty cool video about pennies and talking about how pennies actually cost more than a penny to produce. Right. And they're actually talking about like, we should get rid of pennies.
Starting point is 01:16:54 We'd actually save money by getting rid of pennies. And they're not made a copy of it. You should get rid of all of your coins. Why? Yeah, well, yeah, that's a point. We should. Maybe that's quarters, but we should get rid of everything else. Yeah, but it's like I get handed change
Starting point is 01:17:06 But I mean the fact that a dollar is a piece of paper and that something smaller than dollar I've then got to carry around. I just chuck it chuckle the change Well, I was trying to get out into my cultural differences like they don't tip But we know what tip we just don't tip for like buying a coffee or buying a bit of food So it says here in the history of the world 165,000 tons of gold have been mined. You could make a cube that's 20 meters per side. So 60 feet basically. Yeah, 60 feet by 60 by 60.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Like a cube, 20 meters high. Wow. It's all the gold. Not much in the entire world. That's insane. Because you think about like, what like the Egyptian? You make the cube, it immediately becomes a James Wan villain. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:45 The cube. Like, it like tries to like overflow fucking, oh. So the cube would town or something. I wonder if the richest guy could buy that cube and then hollow it out and live in it. It's like, the cube doesn't exist, you're fucking idiot. Yeah. Yeah, no, I know what you're saying. But someone's like, I know it's not actually there.
Starting point is 01:18:01 So someone that buys all the gold. Yeah. Melt's into a cube like Guster said. Yeah. Theoretical cube, and then like, Holler's out and lives in it, cuts windows and doors. No. Well, the reason is that theoretically,
Starting point is 01:18:11 because of how little of the earth's crusts that we've actually penetrated as well, it means creepy, like if you think about the size of the earth and what little space on it we occupy. And what if the earth was an apple, we live. The livable part of the earth is the red skin. Like even the stuff in the middle, it's just not. It's just that little thin layer.
Starting point is 01:18:32 And then you take away all the oceans. It's like, there's almost nothing. You take away all the deserts and all that stuff. It's like the livable space on earth is very, very small. And even like the size of the earth, it's just a opinion like when people, the space shuttle goes out in space that they're operating outside of the earth gravity? No, you're not even close
Starting point is 01:18:48 because you're up like a few miles and the earth itself is thousands of miles, it's a huge object. So they're just like, it's orbit, they're falling around the earth. So the astronauts are not in zero gravity, they're in free fall, they're in constant free falling around the earth. Even the moon is in earth gravity,, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's why I'm saying it's exactly. Exactly. I mean, yeah. I mean, it's like the people think that you're outside. I mean, the earth is like this enormous thing. We've actually, we, we told one to the 98% of the Joel's stupid stuff. I don't believe that. No, no way. This impossible. 98% of the earth hasn't been seen by humanites. Yeah. The stupidest thing ever.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Ridiculous. But if you take away the top layer of the earth, I mean, we've actually penetrated very little of Of the crust so like what happens if we find a 40 by 40 by 40 actual cube of gold like we find a vein that big And then you've been you've got a James Bond movie Did you see all this being a James Bond movie? Did you see Richard Branson and James Cameron are racing to the bottom of the Mariana's trench? Yeah, that's a leg noile I always literally the two of them But they end up just punching each other down. No, no, no, it's like they're both doing separate missions
Starting point is 01:19:47 to get as deep as they can in the Marionist's trench, which we've never experienced before. And the winner gets to spend the most money. No, they become presidents of the United States. Why? There's two weird like spectrums of science. Like there's two polar opposite ends, which are the macro science, which is basically astrophysics.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Like let's go out. Yeah. And let's go to the universe, which is enormous explore. Then there's the micro universe, which is basically astrophysics. Like, let's go out. And let's go to the universe, which is enormous and explore. Then there's the micro-universe, which is, let's go down. You know, I mean, this is your time I'm going down to the Marianne Strins. I know the people would go to the molecular level, like, that's what they're doing at Surn and doing, you know, super colliders and stuff like that. There's a whole world down that direction too.
Starting point is 01:20:18 And Gavin, you actually explore this kind of stuff because you do your high speed photography with super slow motion. Yeah, we do a lot of analysis stuff. It's crazy. There's a whole world between our moments of perception. Yeah. Where all these stuff, all the stuff is happening. But I'm always amazed when I see something in slow motion like we exploded a thousand pound bomb and you can just see the sound. You can see a dome of sound, the shock wave. And it's like, well that's there. I mean every time there's an explosion that is there and it hits you but you just can't see it. There's some great videos on break of like it's people destroying munitions dumps
Starting point is 01:20:48 Yeah, and they're like miles away You can see the explosion happen. You can just see the shockwave coming yeah and hit them But um, yeah, it's it's always amazing to me that every human sees at the same speed Like to me you like speed is like who sets that like why is this why is this speed? Why is our frame of that like why is this why is this speed? Why is our friend's reference? Like a second like if I drop something why don't why doesn't that when I see it drop for like 10 seconds? Mm-hmm. It's a And there's a lot of you that levels. Yeah, you can get away from it. Yeah, like other animals must have much high
Starting point is 01:21:17 perception of movement and you know, I have greater reflexes. Yeah, I mean just I filmed a lot of animals as well And and I've been like I don't know if you ever saw that video, it's pretty slow, my guys, where I pop the balloon down the side of my house. I just let it fill till it, mostly shattered. And all of the rubber actually hit me in the face and in the neck. And I don't blink for like 27th of that. But my reflectors are so bad, that would have gone in my eye. Have you ever done a video comparing like a catch reflexes versus a person?
Starting point is 01:21:41 He had a Lloyd jumping. I had the cat. No, I never looked at the side by side. So you could like put a person and like shoot catch reflexes versus a person? He had Lloyd jumping. I had to catch No, I don't have it like this side by side like you could like put a person and like shoot them with a water Gents. Yeah, so they react and like put a cat there and have she didn't with a lot of interest in to do a lot of last I don't know speed stuff. Yeah, we don't have any idea for how animals perceive time We assume it's the same frame and rate as ours But I mean, it's like imagine if you smack a fly what if a fly is like you just catch the fly off guard And it's not it's not being crushed, like smashed,
Starting point is 01:22:07 but all of a sudden there's a pressure on it's about to, what is that? And then it's like slowly being crushed. Like, yeah, that's how it perceives it. It's like, from what I understand, that's how they understand, that's how they know to get out of the way of like, your hand is they can feel the air coming
Starting point is 01:22:21 on like tiny hairs on their back. That's why fly swatters are. But would not be annoying if you could perceive the world a lot slow but you couldn't do anything about it like you get surprised you get punched in the face it's like oh god he's punching me so I can feel my bones fracturing. We were talking about how all the girls did you hear gold and come running? We've been talking about my gold, Joel. How have you? Yeah we have. You're probably gonna be mad at what was probably wrongly so I mentioned this Statistics that all of the gold that's ever been mined in the history of the world can fit in one swimming pool
Starting point is 01:22:49 That's yeah, it's an actual scarce material. I suppose a diamonds which are yeah, yeah, Artifish. Thank you That's just like translating for me on the fly. Artificially. That's right. Yes. It's right. Don't get me started Fucking assholes. I don't know. It's silver's like it's silver's like that. What about platinum? But it's crazy to think about that because everyone has gold. I have a little gold, you have a little gold. Everyone has a little gold. I've got a lot of gold, look at that. Yeah, but is that solid gold?
Starting point is 01:23:10 Like, that's the thing. Oh, it's a gold-goated. Yeah. Is it meant to be? It's crazy to think about, right? It's like, everybody has some gold. You look at like Mr. T. And it's like, that's like a significant chunk right there,
Starting point is 01:23:20 but it's like, yeah, just a swimming pool. One big size swimming pool. Right, if I gather up all the, if I gather up all the class of rings in the world, I'd have that. Yeah, like it is like yeah, just a swimming pool. One big size pool. Right. If I gathered up all the Yeah, like if I got all the class rings in the world. I'd have that yeah, yeah Yeah, it is high did mr. T. O one percent of the gold ever mind It's like they can only they can only you know all the mining manufacturers is like they can only produce one percent a year Basically, that's the whole fucking point people Fucking point they can only produce one percent a year
Starting point is 01:23:43 When you say that what does that mean when they can only produce one percent a year. When you say that, what does that mean? When they can only produce one percent a year. They can only mine one percent of the existing amount of gold every year. They can only increase the overall stock one percent. Oh, I see. Right. The supply of gold is maintained by natural forces rather than people just being like, well, it's just increased, like corrupt politicians just being like, well, just make more of it.
Starting point is 01:24:01 But I was saying, I was saying that there's also the possibility to that Suddenly we hit a vein of gold. That's like double. I mean theoretically that's possible We could double all of us and somebody finds this thing like they crack open a mountain or some shit I guess so I don't know How much does possible. Yeah, how much does gold go for right now announce a thousand seven hundred ish? Okay, a thousand seven hundred mm-hmm an ounce I'm sure I was gonna say like twelve hundred I was off by all I'm just an ounce how much how much how big is it it's a sixteenth of a pound oh that's not much too not much wow it's like a little it's also gold is measured in different ounces measured in Troy ounces which are slightly different I think yeah I guess so that's yeah which I don't
Starting point is 01:24:42 know the whole of the gold ever mind is 5.3 billion Troy ounces So people apply 5.3 billion times 17 hundred you figure out how much that's worth wow speaking of gold How many freaking miles does it take to get gold status 25,000 in one calendar year or 21,000 year I think 15 or 20 Call fine seconds or if you get to one million total lifetime miles and you get gold status for life. If you get to one million, by the way, we switch topics here.
Starting point is 01:25:10 We're not on American Airlines, frequent flyer miles. Cause you just got back from Vancouver, right? So you've been doing a lot of flying recently. I've flown probably like 10 times this year, maybe more. I can't even keep track and I've got more coming. That's too many. How many not too many? It's too many.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Plug into the site and see how many you got. Do you have a... Well, I guess it's telling me 26,000 but I've got in the line whatever that was yesterday. It was like my, my gold, you're not gold. It's like what 26,000. I'll go take a look with you and see. Yeah, I just looked. Let me look at it. I'll let you look at it It's like some sort of and they keep track of your total lifetime miles. Yeah, it's also on there. I'll show you I've got to get a million miles like to fly Australia. That's like to how many miles is that?
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Starting point is 01:26:45 Oh, good. You're going to be like, you're starting like $100. You have that equipment and stuff. Yeah. Oh, that's so much. Adjas are remote capture. $100. $100. What's that? Kilos. Huh? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:53 70 pounds. That's like 35 kilos. Oh, yeah. My bag was heavy, then that coming here. That's it. Yeah, the, when you ever you travel like that too, it's always fun to see how close that weight you can get, but they will kill you if you go over that weight by pound. Like, 50 pounds, right?
Starting point is 01:27:05 Yeah, it is. Yeah. My allowance coming here was 24 kilos. Yeah. And I was 24.7 kilos on my first bag and they charged me like 50 quid. That's when you chuck everything, as you say. I should have just taken it. Before Ben went, when Ben was here last year, he was getting ready to leave, go back to the UK.
Starting point is 01:27:24 He was really concerned about the weight of his bag and he was the same thing He said 24 kilos and he busted the scale out was measuring weighing his bags like I can't get I don't understand my bags way over 24 kilos It's way too heavy. I'ma did you rid of all this stuff? I said Ben did you change the scale for pounds to kilos? He was like oh no, so I went You know and Ben though you have like feathers you know way anything anything really I mean it's like I wait like ten stone Yeah Yeah, I just playing it when it's a guy to explain it 14 pounds 14 pounds, huh? So you will measure people and pounds, but items and kilos
Starting point is 01:27:58 Well, that's yeah, yeah, the whole thing's best that we buy we buy by the Lita and it's all done by Mars Pagallan So nobody knows how much how much value they get. 3.75 liters to the girl. It is why they are trying to extract the information for this one. You want to buy American to fat? It's because everything we measure is in pounds and ounces everything except for nutritional information on the side of a package of food. That's all metrics. They just, I mean they have to find the information but obscure it slightly so that most people can't see.
Starting point is 01:28:24 So you don't know what you eat? Yeah, all metrics. I mean, I just find the information, but obscure it slightly so that most people can't see. You don't know what you're eating. Yeah, exactly. But on the package, it'll tell you how big the item is and ounces. And then on the nutritional information, like this is a 12 ounce coke and it has 35 grams of sugar. It would be like, I don't know what that means. Or a serving size is 5 grams. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:38 But there are too many cars on the road, right? If every car had a meter on it, just whenever you filled up it just said like say you put 80 dollars of gas. Yes. It would just, it would update with the current price and have on your car 80 dollars. And as you drive that money just slowly goes down. Or you could start up here and pull cars driving on that strip. Yeah. When you put your car in parking like this strip cost you. Yeah. It's just that's like, oh, maybe it shouldn't drive, maybe it just walks a bit. Isn't when he's talking about called the fuel gauge? I mean yeah, but no one makes the money on it It's a game it's abstracted. Okay, that's that oh truck
Starting point is 01:29:10 It's like every time you go in oh god. It's gonna be expensive Yeah, no, it's true Yeah, so if there's a if there's a but a value that's directly the people who make the cars It's not in their interest view to not drive the cars, so they're probably not gonna do that Yeah, I can't say it would save the planet It would save the planet and the truck You know the planet's gonna be fine like we can drive around we can nuke ourselves the planet is gonna be fucking fine Yeah, it's fine. Sorry by planet. I meant humans
Starting point is 01:29:47 We don't we don't deserve it. Have you thought about that? We don't we don't deserve the planet. Where's the place for turning the dark turn? We need that we need that sound cue But we you the right though people like environmentalists need to change the way Like environmentalists have like saved the planet. That planet will be here, we're saving people. Save yourself. Yeah, but yeah, save yourself or not even like what they should do to like bring conservatives into environmentalism is like,
Starting point is 01:30:13 let's not save the planet. We're gonna fight it. The planet should have killed us. So let's fight the planet. It's like, sorry. The planet naturally wants to kill us and will cleanse us if we keep fucking with it. So let's learn how to like not fuck with it or get what we want without like making the planet man. We're like the planet. That's how they should get it.
Starting point is 01:30:29 I'm now imagining a lot of people will come to a mountain stop. I had a, uh, it's like we're not planning trees to restore the environment. We're planning trees to cut those fuckers down. I had a, I did tree on my property that was like kind of really close to my house. And I called an arborist over to give me a quote to see how much it would cost to cut down this tree and The arbor showed up looked at it and goes yeah, yeah that tree's dead I was like okay, how much you know what it cost you to cut it down and haul it off. He's I'm not gonna do that And I go why not he goes because man made structures of temporary that tree's gonna be here long after your house is gone So just deal with it
Starting point is 01:31:07 Okay, thanks You call the guy with a chain song you'll be The next guy was like how much you cut it down is like I'm not gonna cut it down. I'm gonna burn that If you call an arborist, you're going to get some sort of political... Theoretical ideal for an at you and some... It is amazing how short our stint on the planet is going to be though. Imagine if you could see a time lapse of the earth from like a trillion years ago. You'd see probably some like... A hundred trillion years ago.
Starting point is 01:31:39 What, why are you saying that? I don't think the earth existed a trillion years ago. A billion years ago. You think anything existed a trillion years ago? Hey, sure. Why not? How is it? Four thousand years old, isn't it? So what was here before that? I mean, there was another universe that then contracted. That's outside of our perception of time. Okay. So a billion years ago, you see all like the stuff the earth maybe like changing form. And if you went from four billion years ago you see all like the stuff the earth maybe like changing form and if you went from four billion years ago to now say in the space of a minute it would be 59 seconds of just earth you know existing on its own trees and
Starting point is 01:32:16 stuff and then it would be and then all of humanity would be there and all buildings would just go and that would continue when it's down of humanity Pretty much you look at me like I'm a maniac. I know what you know, yeah, you're making your way It's short-stint, but it would just continue off that like everyone be dead all the bands will still be there and they'll just continue Yeah, but it's it's crazy to think that we are I can't see screen. Yeah, and then we'll see that place off the others. So you you're describing time But the point is it's like I'm happens like, the point is, it's like, I'm happens. All of it is so irrelevant in terms of the whole client. I love you. How do you? Are like, how? No, how do you? I'm 23. You're 23. So this is the thing. Like, this is the
Starting point is 01:32:55 conversation that every 23-year-old has. Like, we all had this conversation when we were 23. Yeah, right now, or this is what happens with time right See that's the real thing you need to worry about is turning into that they're went off for 23 years and then It's like did you ever wonder that we're only a speck of time in the universe is like Yeah, I don't care anymore moved on now Yeah on now. Yeah, but everyone talks about a planet. It's like, we've got to save the planet. You know, who cares? That's right.
Starting point is 01:33:29 We're in a slight inconvenience to the planet. Well, that's when we go back to the discussion we had about science before, is like people who are like big about the space program. The space program, when you explore space, you're like, when you look out there, you're exploring the past, like this cosmic history. Because even the time it takes light to reach us
Starting point is 01:33:44 to show us what happened. It's on. Yeah. It's millions of years. Yeah. Everything's the past technically if you use the light analogy. You're in the past. No, I know, but it's relevant past at least. It's not millions of years ago. Yeah. You know, and it's it's in our frame. Yeah, there are some stars that you're seeing the light that was broadcast by the star before the earth was even there. Sure. or even if we discover something, like if we discover another civilization, it's like we might reach them and have some kind of communication. It might take hundreds of years to pass messages back and forth with current technology. And then it's like we discover something, it's like we're not going to be able to pay
Starting point is 01:34:18 off on this for literally thousands of generations potentially. Whereas if you go the other way and you get in with particle physics and things like that, that's something we might like to employ in our lifetime. You know, that's what I'm more interested in like particle physics than I, it's interesting. The cosmos is interesting. And like you talk about us where we fall as a speck in the scale of time, just in the scale of the universe, just in a current time, it's like we're beyond a speck, we're not even in a spe Yeah, there's a great Carl Sagan video called Pale blue dot. Yeah, have you seen it? Yeah, yeah It's a speech he made that somebody then made a video from it if it's it's the I think it's Voyager
Starting point is 01:34:53 They turned Voyager around to look at earth from When I'm passing when I'm putting a lot of money I'm gonna do it and Carl Sagan was like champion is get back Turn it back and take a picture of the earth from the edge of the solar system. And it's literally like the earth is like a speck of dust in a sunbeam. Yeah. Is what it looks like.
Starting point is 01:35:11 So it was passing Jupiter or Saturn at the time. What is that thought? So when everyone, whenever, when you think about like how big everything is now, small we are, it makes you sort of take real life less seriously. I just want to punch you in the face. Yeah. You're the puddle, like the punch doesn't matter. Yeah, I was like, scheme of things. But like say, say some guys been like getting on your nerves for a year or something. Yeah. See, that's why that's why I like the smaller particle physics
Starting point is 01:35:35 too, because I'm a fucking giant. I'm the amalgamation of an infinite amount of universes. You know, like billions of units put together. Exactly. All right, let's move to this, baby. Let's wrap it up. I got one thing I want to talk about real quick, to go back on something. Gavin was talking about, so you were talking about how much it costs to run a car for petrol. Like if you had a meter that said you're spending four pounds
Starting point is 01:35:57 of money, or whatever, even your money is like, just makes sense. It's about to fall off. Joe's melting. So to run a car when you're in a cab, you're not just paying for the gas. You're paying for the, they build in the cost of the vehicle and then the driver as well.
Starting point is 01:36:11 So there's more than that. And a good way you can measure that, which frighten the shit out of you, is every year the IRS calculates what that standard rate is, what it costs to run a car for gasoline and to run an average vehicle for maintenance or whatever. So you can get reimbursed by your company when you drive your personal vehicle. Right.
Starting point is 01:36:27 So then that can be a real sobering thing like, oh, I have a car so I can get around in the solidities. You don't have to take the bus. The rate for 2012, the IRS puts out there for reimbursement of a vehicle, is 55.5 cents a mile. So that's on top of fuel. That's just car maintenance and. No, that standard miles rate for the car. That's just car maintenance and... No, that's standard miles
Starting point is 01:36:45 rate for the car. That's a good fuel. Oh, that's good. So that glutes everything. Cost your car built in for like you know the rundown of the car and maintenance. What was it? 55 cents. 55 and a half cents per mile. So you go 10 miles, it's five five bucks 50. I lived 10 miles away from the office. So every day I spend $11. I mean, I'm here in a bus place. That's not much. Most people want to have a car. They just attribute the mileage to the gas. It's much more than that. So what would the gas be then per mile? That's everything, Gavin. Okay, let's start over now.
Starting point is 01:37:19 I know that. If you can write off miles, that's always a great thing. That was one of the best things you could do. Like, okay, and on the tax advice, you've got to keep a log book. And keep a log book. Hey, where would you go eat, Suck? Or what you do is December 31st, you get out three different colored pens and you just start writing for the year.
Starting point is 01:37:37 That was the thing back when I was doing the acting thing. It was like, we had that like a tax class is back at Suck. It was like, keep a log book, write everything down, or whatever, just like, so I had, you know, like you said. You know my truck in the center console, it actually has grooves for hanging files because the skies sure like, got real men who on my pickup,
Starting point is 01:37:54 they'd use it for job sites and logging and stuff like that. And that's where the thieves, that's how they know where to steal stuff. Yes, these are what steal paper work. I got the logbook. I can't, no, I can do my taxes. I can do somebody else's taxes. Where are we going to eat? Where are we going to eat? Medical mild. Let's just go. I'm fucking starving.
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