Rooster Teeth Podcast - RT Podcast #175

Episode Date: July 18, 2012

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It's time to put your pedal to the metal. From the twisted minds behind Deadpool and Zombieland, an executive producers, Will Arnett and Anthony Mackie comes the new Peacock original series, Twisted Metal, a high-oxane action comedy based on the classic video game series. Anthony Mackie stars as John Doe, a motormouth outsider who must deliver a mysterious package across a post-apocalyptic wasteland. If he can survive the drive, also starring Stephanie Beatriz, Samoa Joe, Nev Campbell, Will Arnett, and Thomas Hayden Church.

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with more than 100,000 downloadable titles across all types of literature including fiction, nonfiction and periodicals. For free audiobook of your choice, go to audiblepodcast.com slash ro rooster teeth. How's everyone doing? Welcome to podcast number 175. Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum happy I have to give a big fat thank you to everybody who went to Comic Con this year and made it so I did not have to go to Comic Con this year. I said you're gonna give them a big fat something else. That's what that means. But if not for that this podcast would have started with a gigantic yawn because man that was a run of conventions that we did live events. Yes. The the capper of which at least for us the capper of which Gus was RTX.

Did you do it? Yes. It's weird. I guess we haven't had really a podcast since then. I guess we recorded one at the event. You seem confused. Yes. I'm totally confused.

I have no idea what's going on. Yes, so RTX, you're saying that because it seems like a long time ago that we did RTX, but it was, yeah. We could go for one podcast. We could go for the podcast you know that's podcast Jesus and last but we did a live streamed version of the audience attended podcasts did you listen to that it was really interesting to listen to yeah hearing the people laugh and watch the comments or not laugh as was yeah to my didn't save your Garfield joke people like the Gar joke. I got plenty of people defending me on Twitter about that.

People love watching you bomb with that fucking awful joke. I was in Australia and I thought it was so awkward. I can feel the awkwardness all the way from across the world. I also love that you're just like, would you ever have a bomb joke? Gus, you just want to get away. I just don't know. Because normally what I do is I just cut it.

If I don't know if you ever heard, notice that in the past. If I tell a joke that's awful, I get to know reception, it gets cut. You have a bitch. Not Lindsay's doing it, she doesn't cut it. No, Lindsay just leaves it in there. I'm already Lindsay in here.

Let's talk to her about a cutting process. So, so recording in front of an audience was really interesting. I felt like it was definitely different. Like I think some people, I don't know, it was just interesting. I felt like it was definitely different. I think some people... I don't know, it was just weird. I felt like we were having to react to people being there more. I was more aware of the audience. It was kind of like a sitcom we had to wait for the shitty laugh track to subside when he'd gone. That's how we look at the audience myozuses. The shitty laugh track. Yeah, thank you. You're just insulted everyone.

You're sorry, myozuses. F filling in for Jack on this podcast apparently. Oh, what's up guys? Jack today, how come he's there cuz I know he's back in the office. I forgot that he wouldn't be here I forgot that he would be back in time. Yeah, I booked miles Happened your people once you were booked you were locked in and that's it I just have to be writing in here because what are you doing here? I'll be on the podcast. I thought it was Bernie. He was in the conference. You're with the laptop writing people It's like hey, you can be in the podcast. He's like yeah, I was like oh shit. It's mild So that you're committed you guys are starting to look a lot of like I don't know I don't know what to say people keep telling me that I don't know if they tell you that

No, I guess that too. I joltz as I can't wear like flannel shirts or something like that because I look like you or something like that I can't fucking sick a Joel. Can I tell you? I'm just I'm sick of Joel because Joel constantly prods me all the time He's making fun of me all the time, but when I poke a jolt back he can't dig it. Oh, no. Don't don't ask you about the Higgs boson He just can't he just can't take it as opposed to be here right now. He said he would be. I have no idea where he is. He's not in his office. I called him. I texted him I just started to show him a little bit of a chance. We're throwing you under the fucking bus Not hard not hard. So did you feel weird? I'm sorry. I keep going back to it Doing the podcast in front of people. I felt like there was a different rhythm to it almost Well, we also took questions, which is a little different.

I mean, not everyone has been to a Rushi panel, but it's just basically like the podcast, where the audience member gets the microphone for about 30 seconds. And then once that spotlight swings around and hits you, that spotlight can burn pretty bright. We focus on you because we don't care if you came all the way from upstate New York, we're just gonna look at make fun of you.

You're a harsh old outfit. Yeah, you're part of the process. Yeah, I freeze. Oh, I'm a little bit disappointed. Lindsay just locked this. Hey, Lindsay, we're in here bitching about the fact that you don't cut some of the stuff we want to get cut out of the editing process. Like my bad jokes.

Oh, let me turn, let me turn your, follow me up. Right there. There you go. Give her a pair of head parts. Or just a pair of feet. So, Lindsay tell you is joining us. Let me turn the retranger while we look. There you go. Give her a pair of head pumps. Just a bit. So Lindsay Telly is joining us. She is the lovely young lady who edicts the podcast between when we record it and when we put it out.

What is the big thing you added out of the podcast? What's your process? Let's see. Aside from listening to Pandora on a low level, which I got yelled at for a minute. She listens to Pandora while she puts the podcast. It's a very, very low level. I wonder why stuff doesn't depend on what she puts the podcast I wonder why stuff doesn't get cut that we want I listen to two things in one so it's not too crazy I know, I guess she's got two years

Oh yeah, she's good Is that one of your great jokes that we're not gonna cut out of this That's gonna be boost volume at that point She is mine. You gotta get a plus-fold gain on that, please. You gotta insert like the crickets, good like a little soundboard going. We have enough of him here.

We don't need to insert anything. Q-siren clip. I mean, it's hard to do to edit what is typically about one hour and 15 minute podcast every single week. And then she has to go in and insert all the links for the link dump, because they're embedded in the MP4 5 And for MP3's don't have any of the embeddings

Thought because you have to make it formats. They just got to call it MP3, but just add new things It's like MP3 2 MP3 2 the current version of MP3. I mean how many different audio formats have there been Over the course of the internet's history? Yes, the first one I remember finding and interacting with was a dot a U file. Yeah, I think that's a son micro systems audio file It's a son mic. It's not foreign First one I found it's basically just Paul Hogan reading everything to you as crocodile Lindy That's awesome everything on the internet. that's not a side so many but listen

I don't know what it is like I don't try not to think of myself as like one of those people who's brand loyal or anything like that But there are certain formats that I just categorically hate. I just I'm not doing I'm not messing with it But like for for audio. It's a-i-f-f for some reason whatever that reason is I just see that format and like that sucks hey bro I like that but I like it okay but what's the ones you hate then like a you I hate it you so much I know it images like we're seem to court in a era now where we have to use dot png files we talked about png especially miles noses and made her like that is the best because it's Confident anything it can fit in final kind like a layer over a bunch of shit or you can toss it in Photoshop

You're a tips house baby. I Fuckin hate this too. I just want to use J-Pigs. That's it Yeah, but I like her treats of her. It's a lossy format when you're working You know a production you'd have some it's lost. It's gone. I fucking internet who cares? I mean seriously a lossy format when you're working, you know, a production you'd have some of this loss. It's going to fucking internet who cares I mean seriously a lossy format. No, I like that Red versus blues on the internet right? No, you're cheering. Paying price for our videos man

Do you remember when we started red versus blue? I do and we had to host all the files ourselves. Yeah, fuck you know one of the biggest cost savings in the history of the company is when just randomly one day Adobe decided to turn Flash into a video codec and they put that out because our files went from like a postage stamp size video that was about 90 mA's per minute and a half. Now we can do four or five minutes for like 18 mA, 25 mA. It's awesome. So even though our show is getting more and more popular, it's like all of us in our bandwagon will just drop through the floor. It's a big deal. Yeah. Especially before YouTube. We need to pay for all that stuff. Yeah. Flash is going away. Is it? Yeah. Well, what's the MP4? Yeah. Yeah. Once again, just do format. I don't want to find

any progress. You like when Flash got introduced. Okay. You like the new format. It is true, but also video codecs are like one of those things now. We're losing parts of the internet and the internet is supposed to be a self-documenting, like self-journaling entity. And so it's like when you go back to look at something and either HTML formats change gusts or video formats change, you can't get those codecs anymore. I think you can for the most part. You're gonna get the CinePack codec by Radius.

We're gonna get that thing. Come on, we're going to airport some shit on the internet with the CinePack. They did back in 2001. This is the third and this fucking conversation I've been talking about. I'm like, what the fuck? I remember that. Yeah, I mean, the internet is such a one enormous bad catalog. And it is cool to go back and see stuff.

Until someone doesn't pay their fucking hosting bill and their sites offline. There you go. Or the HTML format change change the browser can't read the page or looks, you know I've got back to an old site that you've watched like before and you're like what the hell this is totally different Like some of you used to love I went to ebombs world recently that was weird Pokemon website space jams Oh Oh my god, whoa, I think Lindsey just informed us that she used to visit e-bombs world People who made content for the internet

Because of just fucking piss us off of those guys with re-host everything that we made Yeah, and put e-bombs world on it Yeah, but that's still a business model. They're still fucking sites to do that man Where do that season just recently with people were stripping that? I mean, they're using these to do that now. Where did I see that just recently? We're funny people were stripping that I mean I mean I just need to do that now like CBS and I shouldn't throw names around So I'm a TVF but uh yeah people will take videos and then just strip everything off of it And you should see excited because they repost your video and you're getting Oh, yeah, that's right. We got in that fucking stupid ass argument with Brandon. Yeah when that fucking

Shed hole website re-host hosted our Siri video right oh yeah yep that's the thing I think you just referred to the Huffington post shit hole wet's like shit hole area of the public phone get off your fucking blackberry what is the buzz I never go there it's just like a new second there just like this like you said like it's like ebomb's world but for news okay I've done our Siri video is qualifies as news. It's got all the sides.

It's informative, I learned a lot. Tell me how to be angry at it, don't I? He's like a liberal rag. Like am I, am I leaving conservative here and like calling it a liberal rag? I think that's a fair assessment. Okay, good. I just have to know how to hate stuff in the court. You got another context.

I do. Liberal rag check. Steals content check. Well, it's one of the things that's tough. Very easy. Because it's tough to get a video that just goes nuts. We make videos all week, all month, all year. And then occasionally everyone just goes wild and goes crazy.

And it's like, you know, you kind of work towards or get that. And for a lot of people, it's their only video. You know, they make one that comes. It's your piano cat. It's a one-a-one cat know, you kind of work towards, or get that. And for a lot of people, it's their only video. You know, make one that comes... That's your piano cat. It's a one-day one cat. Wow, today I just missed it up. Do you make cats today? I have to deal with you.

You did the vlog version of keyboard cat. Ta-da! Right, do you make cat-a-cat? Alright, if we're talking about keyboard cat, we gotta talk about something that was big in the news this week. I hope it was keyboard cat. Well, keyboard cat first year about keyboard cat. Gus, I was a big guy a few years ago. I don't know. I saw Becca tweeted something about it. I thought I heard about it. Well, I first heard about it on dig.com. Oh, it was a big name on dig. Okay. And I don't know if you guys heard, but dig.com sold this week.

Really? Dig a few years ago, maybe more than a few years ago at this point, but dig was, a few years ago, maybe more than a few years ago at this point, but Digg was just like, we kind of read it, you know, we was aggrid, like, Farrker, or Reddit, and it was the most popular site. Like for us to get a video on the front page of Digg was a big fucking deal, big deal, because I'm in a lot of traffic. Was it a big deal? Big with two G's. Big. But you know, I gotta say though, too, I am saying it was a big deal, but that's the kind

of thing you do all the time, is like you know, oh, our site got your video got on the front page of Reddit or a video got on the front page of Diggered River. It never means as much traffic, either as you think it does. Like, it's not quite as big a deal. It is a cool marketing thing because you have a lot of people outside commenting on it, discovering something for the first time, but it really doesn't amount to all that many views. Unless it's already you get a lot of karma,

just throwing that out there. I mean, a boat's everywhere. Yeah, it's a whole lot of rumors. I was a weirdo like that actually has karma that counts for something. It's kind of weird that people chase all that karma on reddit for this. It is weird.

I don't really get that. Like I say, I don't understand why people like karma, but then if I post something, I get a bunch of downvotes, I suddenly just feel really bad. Really? I just don't give a shit. I got downvote. That's what I'm going for.

Downvote me, bitch. See, actually, then once again, the fewer rejection crops again. You're gone wild here, I come. I don't know. Let's get back to you guys seconds. I don't know. I'm making no here. I'm going to know what the motivation is behind gone wild post. What the motivation is? I hate people. Look at me. Tell me I'm pretty. That's the motivation behind people posting on gone We said we're going back to that

Miles like I'm not waiting. I'm jumping right But dig down and So this week and they sold for $500,000 and about three years ago Maybe a little more at this point They were in talks to be purchased by Google for $200 million. So it is a classic example of the window. Just for certification. I saw an ours technical article that said that $500,000

was not the actual total aggregate price. That was for a portion of dig.com. That was bought by some weird investment company. Right, like the internet started, they're gonna merge it with news.me. Right, something fucked up. Sound good, yeah, I'm really excited about that. But what do you combine all the different assets that were purchased? The final total price for everything put together was about $16 million.

And it won't point me in words about 200 million speculative. It's still a huge deal. And I think if you look at them, like there's, I think it's's tech crunched and if you ever look up a site they also tell you all their Funding they've gotten because a lot of these a lot of these sites are funded by venture capitalists Where they go through around the funny and I think dig was up to like $28 million in venture capital funding And people always you know, I mean essentially people can really say about that thing Well this company raised you know eight million dollars in this round of financing.

But oh wow, Karen should have had four beers. I'm sorry, but I can't buy mine now. Say I do. So what happens in that case? It could be her. So, have a seat, Karen. So, like, let's say, I'm a venture capitalist. I skip in, I give dig $28 million.

They sell for a total of 16. Am I shit out of luck? Do I lose $12 million? Well, yeah. I mean, the money's gone. Like, like they didn't I don't think so. Yeah, so use a team on the beer box. They don't get a cut of advertising during the run. Like they don't get any revenue. I'm sure it's all different. I'm sure it's all different but I don't think dig ever approach profitability in the entire time it ran. Like even

when it's in Tadei, it was approaching profitability. Wow. I mean they were I don't know. This is total speculations. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. approaching profitability. Wow. I mean they were I don't know this is total speculated I'm not stopping stop it stop it. Oh my god I just took off the beer ball a cap with her tongue. Well, my brain is gone. Oh Wow, wow, I should do I should do So intimidating look at you that bulk of it All right, she's a Charm. Lindsay. I'm gonna give us you. Thank you. The other thing we're supposed to do is we're supposed to give

Lindsay All right, Lindsay, I'm gonna give this to you. Thank you. The other thing we're supposed to do is we're supposed to give Lindsay. I don't know what just happened, but I like to. Hey, that's awesome. What are you wearing? A shirt? No, I'm your... What do you get? What is that? Don't put the ring.

Did you get engaged? No, I'm not engaged. What are you wearing? You're wearing a fucking engagement ring. You're wearing a fine engagement ring with the gift. It's on the ring. It's on the finger. There's one finger. You don't... Do you have anything on that? What On the finger there's one finger you don't you have anything on that What's going on there I just noticed that I was given this that. Oh, let me take a video

I'm nice to see y'all things for the intro bite it Biting the battle caps off of beer I can do it Texas. All right. Come on. Here we go. Oh God We got to have a video going here. Okay. Here we go I'm gonna give the background the mic. I'm gonna get the back on the Gears of Warbust. Oh wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait I think I just tried one time and I'll be dead you were drunk probably You know you're gonna you have beautiful teeth care. I hate you with you with a big crack to you look like a hockey player Oh, thank you. I don't want you to do it. All right, so Obviously obviously with this dig discussion people were all over you know like oh You know dig yourself for enough money and they're all their compared to Reddit a lot because Reddit

You know went into vogue as dig was falling not a favor But there's the other there's a flip side in this as well. It's again, Reddit's really popular. What people don't realize is that the window works on both sides of like when is the prime time to like get out of this company or sell the company or whatever. And I mean, you can make the argument that Reddit sold too soon. They sold the condon asked and I think like 2008. Yeah. Miles, you even know who condon asked, and I think like 2008. Yeah.

Miles even know who condon asked is. I'm gonna be honest with you, I have no idea. No, it's a condon asked. It's a huge publishing company. Condon asked traveler, right? Is the big like, I mean, yeah, yeah. That's one of the right things. I'm gonna put it on a camera.

I want to take the $7 billion dollar of your company. Yeah. And the owners of Reddit reportedly sold sold for about six to seven million dollars Do thousand eight and now read it to worth about $192 million so there's two flip sides of this I mean, it's like you know you could sell the right time mission window or you sell too early and you watch your thing Just grow up like yeah, the guys who sold my space right they fucking hit it dead on you know friends with that guy Tom on my

think they fucking hit it dead on. You know, I'm friends with that guy, Tom, on my space. More friends with that guy. I should have run into him and ask him. Does that mean I could private message Tom and ask him how things are going? I remember after my space soul for 500 million, and then I think Yahoo-Off was trying to buy Facebook for $2 billion dollars, and Microsoft was like,

a good turn him down, I thought, that is the dumbest guy in the world. Yeah, my space was bought for $500 million dollars by Fox. Yeah. And it was like, what? $500 million Yeah, my space was bought for $500 million by Fox. Yeah. And it was like, what? $5 million for my space. It's ridiculous. Half a billion dollars. And then March Zuckerberg made the comment that he wouldn't sell Facebook. Facebook was worth at least a billion. And he's like, shut up. And then sure enough, he turned out to be right. Yeah. And he turned down to a billion and now it's worth what? Oh, 100 billion. I believe. Jesus be right. Yeah, and you turn down two billion and not so worth what oh 100 billion I believe

Wow, we are under if you remember this but After Facebook turned down the two billion dollar acquisition offer We wrote Rooster Key to wrote and distributed of press release right say we would entertain any buyout offers for two billion dollars Anybody who's been by a social network. We're not dicks Yeah, we would be totally cool about it. We're not on Facebook. We're silly. We're company for $2 billion. We wouldn't bear to see you in the news and say, no, we're not going to take your offer.

Sadly, nobody took the offer. And we said, it was really sad day. I'd already priced out the my box that I wanted. There was this deep Nigeria though, who like, the way to get the check seemed a little difficult. All right, here I'm going to read this real fast. Just a reminder, this podcast is brought to you by Audible.com, the internet's leading provider of audiobooks with more than 100,000 downloadable titles across all types of literature and featuring

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Nice. Y'all need a bottle of beer. Oh, God. Have you read 50 shades of grey? I read a free excerpt that you can see on Amazon. Let me guess. Was it crazy? Yeah.

Okay. But it was really weird, and I realized why afterwards. I guess the author is British, but she was writing American characters. Okay. So every now and then there'd be a weird thing like an American would refer to an elevator as a lifter, you know, something like that. A torch is a flash. Yes, I would. What? They as a lift or you know something like that It's not just a flash Yes, I wait what?

They would stop mid-sexy cheeseburgers and basically go like Gavin you're like Gavin what does this say? Tell me please Is this hot? I don't know Well, where's Gavin? Gavin's coming back so good because back today I believe that Gavin is on a plane right now coming back from the UK nice and while he was there I know he shot some more slow-mo guys stuff. So if you are a slow-mo guys fan, you should expect to see even more in the future. He shoots a lot at once.

Like he shoots like 10 episodes in a week, you know, maybe potentially even more. Yeah, he's something that he is, I cannot remember his friend's name, I'm sorry. Thank you. He says that they both just get together when after he and we'll film like 10 episodes at a time. Just like, why the hell not?

Let's just spend two hours. That's the only thing. So what do you want to film in the same motion today? Oh, I'm kind of running up the fence. They both just get together when after you know we'll film like 10 episodes at a time Just like why the hell not let's just spend two hours It really is awesome to have a camera that when you point that something it just makes it awesome We're gonna film the gutter pouring rain down curve and it's gonna look like the most beautiful thing that you've ever seen Like that's a good investment in a piece of equipment I don't own any pieces of equipment that are like that. Those things are fucking expensive though. I feel like there's a tough side though. There's some things that you can film that's like are just a million times worse in slow motion.

I'm not doing it for all of you. Like people walk you around. Yeah, like a... Like vomiting. I gotta see it now. No, you don't. Gabbin' get on that right now. I gotta see camera now. No, you don't. Gavin, get on that right now. I gotta see camera opening up your bottles.

They put in that awesome slow motion, music that they do in every video. It's like, what? They do like falling out of six street bars. You get to see like a horror in the face of his friends. They would tell you, when I was in Amsterdam, I saw someone thrown out of a bar like in a cartoon. Someone would put his hands like this.

The backer picked him up by the collar of his shirt and the belt. I was like, I was walking out. Yeah, I couldn't even get out of the street. He's riding on this chest and the guy just like a cartoon. Stun up, just like a truffle. And then the back of the door just flew. One of these days, I want to see a fight that escalates to such a level that it creates a small dust cloud where I can only see like fists and like, that what I'm seeing like. That's she's winning.

Better do is hit by lightning, you stick a black sin there. That was it. But it's eyeball stay behind. That's it and they blink once. Before apricot's hit with that anvil that comes out right. Or it's after, it's after. He got to finish with the lightning. So that must be a bouncer's dream.

It's like my friend. with the lightning so there's a that must be a bouncer's dream Shots guy at the street like he updates his Twitter's like finally to a semester You know why he was not sad no I wasn't at in that bar I had just I had just got an amp stand. I just walked up the train. I was like oh look There's the red light stick on the bar. So let's walk over there I sort of walked even the first thing I saw at the very first bar on the edge of the red light district was some dude getting thrown out by his collar and belt. The red light, too. The best part of that story is his guss is right off the train straight to the back of

the car. No, no, tap. Where else are you gonna go? Honestly, I went out of the house. When I went? Check in, you don't need to go. When I went to Amsterdam, I don't know if you know this part of the story. I was in London with Jason and Joel actually.

And we had some time between our events that we were there for, we had like four days to kill. So we were like, let's go to the train station and go to Amsterdam. Joel was like, no, not go to Amsterdam. So fine. So Jason, I go to Amsterdam. We literally had the idea, walked straight to the train station, had no luggage, had no hotel

waiting for us to answer them. We'll just figure it out when we get there. So I was like, there, walked to the railway district, but had nothing. We were like, if we were like, if we were to sleep in a train station, if we were to come to the horse, that's not the work. If we were to go to the horse, I'm not even doing some awful things. And we seem taken, Gus. But no, we seem to find it.

We had no plans. We just showed up. Just had fun. If we're to go to the horse. We have Grinnell Plants, we just showed up. Just had fun. If we're supposed to worship behind one of those windows, try and earn much. Right, right, right, right, right. Do it at least for like that guy, man. I guarantee you, I would not have been on the main avenue.

I'd have been like a... The side alley, the side alley. Would you have tassels? Yeah. It's in those moments we have to like, what have that girl looks just like Angelie, Jolie? Wait a minute.

Girl? Girl? Girl? I think it's like, oh. You guys ever been to Amsterdam? I remember. I think we've got to get out of much. It's pretty interesting.

You know, they're cutting down on a lot of that stuff. Yeah. I think I read that it's going to be illegal for non-citizens to do drugs in the red light district. Why are there drug crackdowns? That's not really the case. It's correct. Only their citizens are responsible enough to do drugs. That's right.

That's probably true. One thing to be able is that their citizens understand the laws. When they take mushrooms and dive into canal and die, their family doesn't sue. I'm like, well, he's stupid. Yeah. We're just embarrassed by it. I remember when I was in Japan just recently, we were under a bridge and there was all these kind of uniform boxes and some of them had feet

kind of sticking out of them, like someone like that. And we had a guy that was taking a shot and someone we knew there. And I asked her, I said, what's the, all these little boxes construction here? She was, oh, that's where homeless people go. When they're homeless, they go there so that you don't have to see them being homeless. Because they're a shank boy.

I was like, you know what I mean? He's a little bit of that. I was like, yeah, that's not an American. Nobody's a shank in the homeless. They're all about honor. I'm still like, I'm not a racist. I feel like they're more honorable here than I get well there than here I feel like here were just like whatever we don't give shit We're not people fake ones and it's just to get some money inside of the street It's like you believe that the people are like I'm so I know for a fact

I saw a guy one time this is about two years ago in Austin sitting in traffic waiting on a light and I literally saw this older man get out of a car with a cardboard sign and put on took off like his nicer kind of like button down shirt put on this raggedy one walks up to the corner sits down and then just hold up the sign and I'm looking like who's I really see that. I'm really sure he didn't just come from a job interview. Like the half way house didn't give him a ride. And he's not taking care of his clean shirt. Gus, when did you get people?

Yeah, I was like, that one. I was like, that's one of good carer. That was it. First, all right. Careless, our manager started spitting bottle caps. He could blow. Wasn't he a famous homeless person in New York? It was a lady who they found out she was actually

worth a couple billion or something. Or a million, I'm sorry, because she had saved up over years, years, years, and years. And that's all New York? It was a lady who they found out she was actually worth like a couple billion or something or a million I'm sorry because she had like saved up over years and years and years and that's all she did was be homeless I think that's a welfare case actually what she was called the yeah, she had a Like it was almost like a pyramid scheme with welfare within one family They just had an enormous amount of social services coming into this one household great It was a ridiculous amount of money, but did you guys hear about the um, there's a homeless guy You got stopping with the sounds illegal There's a homeless guy in Austin who is doing aggressive pain handling. Mm-hmm. Is what they're calling it?

Where he'll get in your car And then you tell me to give him money and then he wants money He usually wants about five dollars and the people don't have money. He says well then why don't we just go to an ATM And you get money and people say I'm all in money, but here's a shotgun shell bitch. Yeah They're calling it they're calling that aggressive panhandling. They're not calling that mugging I Kind of breaking Don't people lock their car doors don't most cars automatically lock as soon as you put them in drive

Not mine people in weird social situations will make bad decisions like if the guy knocks they might open their door I'm not there now They're trying to find the article Quit hitting the fucking table We want more. What are you gonna do guys? He's fronting us. It's a couple of bottle caps in there and she'll say anything. There's one guy, this one home is person in town who hangs out in the area where I live.

His name is Nathan and he's a blind dude. Yeah, or like partially blind and he walks around with a, you know, the cane. Yeah. And he always acts like he's lost. He's like, where am I? I don't know. And then he gets, he guilt's people into giving him a trip to go get a new cane or something.

What's this guy look like? He's like a tall black dude. He's probably like, I know that guy. Yeah, no, he's the same thing. Yeah, he says, oh, I just need a couple dollars to go get a new cane to the tech school for the blind. He gets a few dollars from you. He asks you to take, ask you to take him

to the tech school for the blind. Then on the way, say, no way, and he stopped on my friend's house first. My mom is just really living all of this. I'm like, shit. I'm gonna be honest. I felt really bad about this one time he ran into me and he gave me that whole spiel. He's like, oh yeah, I'm lost. I don't know where I'm going but like I I've run into people like that before and I'm gonna be honest. I still feel bad about this even though I think he was trying to you know get my money but I slowly started to walk away to get sentenced to see if he was like really blind.

It seems like I get like, see? I just got like slowly tipped toad away and it's like, do your second wife. Oh, no! I was so bad, and I was like, I thought there was a car in person. You already go. I could see that.

Once he gets the money, he makes you take him to 12th inch of calm, where he buys crap. Like, he just gets out of your car. In class class I had to go. I was like I'm so You did the right thing don't get that guy money. She paints the guys have it and you're driving him there to buy drugs Name and all the You know the intersection Look at my neighborhood email this we talk about all time. And sometimes he'll be walking down my street and he'll see me and he'll be like,

oh, what street is this? I said, I'm gonna go inside and call the police now. So you better find somewhere else to go. Oh, Jesus. God, she's not fucking around. I do not fuck around with a guy. It makes you really better,

Miles, a blind guy, tapped me on campus with his cane. I was like, oh, I'm so sorry. I'm in your way. But he did not move around me. He proceeded to try and feel for what was in front of him, which was me. But I was very scared and it didn't know how to respond. I was like, ah, ah, so I went with, it's okay, it's me. It's me, man. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. It's me. I totally

got it. Yeah, I was on campus one time. we have a school for the blind is school for the deaf in Austin The big rivals I was on the U.T. campus one time I, I was across the street and I saw some black eye walking and he crossed a driveway and where the sidewalk goes across the driveway. But in the middle of the driveway, it was an enormous 18-wheeled trailer that was like extending out on the street. So guys, he's walking on his path, which I'm assuming if you're blind and you're in a routine, you walk the same path every day.

I don't know how to do it. I don't know how to do it either. steps. Yeah, or something like a mental map Yeah, yeah, and I guess everything else compensates if you lose one of your senses, but The but he was I can see him just standing there like at the truck and he was sitting perfectly still and he was just like I can tell he was like trying to like take in what this was like because it's like we're getting a wall. Right. And so I walked across street and I said are you you trying to figure out what's going on? I go see his yeah I go see can you can you tell me where I am because I don't know where I am I thought it was in one place but I go probably in the same place I go this is a big 18 wheeler just parked here in the way and so

I was like took his arm and like got him in the right place but it's one of those things like so many of you were just walking around him like it's like I can tell it was just one of those social situations where Anybody would have liked to have helped him, but they just didn't feel like it was appropriate Yeah, I thought it was appropriate to be like hey, can you guys help me? Which she is when you go to help people occasionally and they get really pissed off at you for doing it They're like I got it. It's okay. Yeah, I'm so I get it. Yeah No, she's not like walking into a fountain So, I apologize. Yeah, no, she's not like walking into a fountain.

I'm like, oh, that's a bad deal. Oh, I got him, but it's like, I feel bad because it's like, then I started really thinking about it. Did I put in in the place and like, getting in the right path? Like, I think it's right. I think it's right. I'm like, he is like, oh, we're gonna go to this,

the stairwell outside of Welch, which is one of our halls there. You know, he's like, doesn't know where that is. You know, we're under that one red building. Oh What is red? The G's link for my close caption for different people for different people. It's like, Jesus is singing some way yourself.

Thank you for your service character. Glad to be here. Glad to help. You came in with beer. They open with your teeth. There's nobody go from there but down. I think there's nowhere to go from. I would have to bring that door to the air.

Yeah, I'd still be on his side. What's your bag is the table? Yeah. It's the table. Okay, let me ask you this. Lindsey, does it piss you off when dust. Put your bangs in the table. Yeah. Put your bangs in the table. Okay, let me ask you this. Guts, Lindsey, does it piss you off when Guts gets mad at everybody on the podcast for yelling for banging the table? When he doesn't have anything to do with taking off the bang, what are you upset about? It doesn't make me mad because I can relate because I'm like, fuck, there's a bomb.

There's a bomb, but then I'm like, would Guts cut out this bomb? No, he wouldn't. Yes, it was. Guts and Bums are saying the pector room and Gus would cut it every fucking bump. Everybody else. Bearing bottles on the floor. Okay, Gus cannot say that. There's a lot of talking over it.

We'll say that. Talking over it happens a bit. That I can totally relate with you when you're like shut up, stop. I'm like, I agree. I don't know who the fuck's talking right now. Yeah, you just gotta get the store out. All right, do you agree with that? Because there's times when the audience tells us they like when people yell over each other.

It's fun when you see the cluster of fuck, but I guess from an editing standpoint, I'm like, oh my god, it just sounds like you're in one room and you're all fighting with that. It's also fun when it happens occasionally, not when it goes on for 45 minutes straight. Speaking of which way the hell's Joel? We gotta get him in here.

I don't know, I'm just saying him a bunch of texts and I call him. He was in the beginning. I call him really, Mark Speaker. Joel. Colin put him on speaker. Yeah, I'm in there too. Yeah, we gotta get him in here. You gotta get in there. I know call him. I call him. I call him. I call him. I call him. I call him.

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Carol's intimidating with this gun. So we're going to have... Carol, you got some guns. Look at that. Guns with the guns. Look at that. Wait a second. Oh, real quick. While we're talking about Carol's guns, you. She got some guns. What do you got guns with the guns? What do you say? Wait, oh, we're okay. What were talking about care songs? You came up to me earlier today and you said, Hey, Miles. Um, so other conversation. Let me finish my fucking story. Oh god damn it. Okay, fine. Go. I'm trying to give some stuff away to the listeners here.

So we have one of those cogs snub pistols to give away. We gave away one of those last week. And we also have two of those Marcus Phoenix, Marcus Phoenix busts over there with the gold lands. I don't know if you'll see it back over there. Oh, yeah. And it lights up. Cool looking. Yeah, we got. Dude, I was just thinking of saying good.

You thought it. We got two of those to give away and then one of the cogs, no pistols. And we need to have a talk. I'm not feeling the stash. That's life. You know, I know you see that. Video games get a lot of bullshit for being, having ridiculous female characters. They're just as many ridiculous male characters.

Or do you know what's Eagle-Dude that looks like Marcus Vienn? Yes. He has the fingers the size of sausages, and then that the size of a tree trunk. So guess what else he is? What? What? I don't see.

What's wrong? He's not real. I mean, look at what you're gonna be able to do and he looks like either Emma is in or Zangief I love you to one day. I mean these people exist, but it's like in video games. It's everybody Yeah, I need to be a kind of like every character's either like bad if it's a dude or a super skinny big boot girl Right, it's always an extreme one. However Gus. I mean not to like pull that whole reversal if things are different but you know if we complained about the

Representation of men and the male body in video games. We were like just shut up. Please work out It's like fucking mouth, you know, so I you know, it's it goes both ways. It's fun. I agree I don't mind looking at hot dude. Who's the hottest dude in video games ever? Oh my god. Fuck Luigi's account I think Sam's is pretty up but that's a girl that's fine yeah that's fine me and Sam and Sam and Sam and Sam and Sam and Sam and Sam and Sam and Sam and Sam and Sam and did you see that did you see Kara that Lindsey is has a ring on I do yeah I came here right as you started talking about that. So what's the story? Yeah, the bubble I

Never went up he made a tweet the other day about six month anniversary Yeah, I had this ring probably since Christmas. I have helped approve you might have Christmas. I'm not have helped approve you might have. Oh wait, oh back that bridge. Oh, I'm gonna wrap this ring. Carey five. I may have been consulted for approval. I'm glad you guys know my style. Thank you. So we're going at this whole time and are we just noticed? Yes and no. It was a little small and I had it off for a while. I get a resize but it's probably been on me for like a month now. Now listen. No. And don't mature, don't mail it in your life. Oh, mature, I don't know about that. I feel like I have the obligation to tell you what a terrible decision is to have.

I haven't really thought this year all the way. You know this guy, Michael. I don't know. I got questions. Wait, what do you really know Michael? Do you know Michael Vincent Jones? So, what do you think? What Michael goes on with?

Is he as ragy as he is on Michael's phone? Yes. He's really? There's a lot of shit in Fox in the morning, but I'm the same way. And Jones so when you What might goes on like is he is Ragey as he is on my Yes, there's a lot of shits and fucks in the morning, but I'm the same way All right I think it was. She didn't talk. She didn't even like when you were talking. If we do that, we should keep one person out. She's low-weight, man. Yeah, well, maybe we'll have a Lindsay and Michael spoiler cast. We're going to have another spoiler cast. We should.

Because we really liked the one that we did for a massive fact. Yeah. We were supposed to be once for Avengers, and we did. But I think we could do one for either Game of Thrones or Breaking Badges started. Yeah. Did you watch the first episode? I haven't. I haven't seen it yet. I will see it by the time this podcast is out. What? You could do one for either Game of Thrones or Breaking Bad just started. Did you watch the first episode of Breaking Bad? I have not seen it yet.

I will see it by the time this podcast is out. What? Okay. Okay. You know, they did break up the last season of Breaking Bad in the two seasons. I hate when they do that. Why? It's just one, two.

It's still, it's not two full length seasons. They go for two half seasons. Right. Why not just put it all out? Bowser or Galactic, I think, was the first person to do that when they had season 2.5 yeah they either released DVDs of the first part before the second part of the season was even out yeah yeah ultimately I blame the sopranos for the start of that I hear they're long-high this between seasons but like I

look here's how to look at it I look at it as they have the HBO with the surprise has established a new kind of Series like one of these like super high production value Series that it takes a while to come out, you know, I mean, they're still faster the movies and you get a shitload for Kind of movies they had like 18 months breaks and they have a 24 month break a movie you get longer than that Don't you I mean get three years how long between you return to the king and the hobbit? That's like nine years Yeah, oh, yeah, but they were putting those out between you return to the king and the hobbit? That's like nine years. Oh, yeah But they were putting those out every year. We're turning once they fade out. Yeah, yeah, but still it's only four hours You can four hours in two episodes or that gets it's four episodes and this is a prank. Yeah, you know, I don't know

I like this new like uber tv series stuff. They're doing I like that too. I'm fainting so and I don't I'm I'm fainting Netflix Plus I watch everything in bursts. I don't sit there a week to week waiting for it to come out, really? Yeah, unless you do that. But that's self-breaking bad. I know. You did that for the first few seasons, and now you've screwed like the rest of us. I know.

It's true. It's true. And I like it so much I can't help but watch it every single week. But then again, I can never remember what happened to your previous week. Like, for instance, a part of growing up Bernie That was the first five minutes of watching Breaking Bad Oh was talking about a room like where was he in the last season? What is that?

I've been I've been rewatching all the back catalog trying to get ready for this season Because I knew that was gonna fucking happen. I'm not doing that. You're not? No. I'm not doing that People should like edit together like a primer. So it's like this is enough to know. Well, it's just parts of it. They not say that's happening. Or just like to refresh my memory, you know, or people watch the show.

Usually they do that. They don't do like this sort of like, they can do that on the internet. Yeah, they don't do that. Check it out, this dude does meth. Here you go. But I gotta tell you, when they do that, like they usually do that on lost all the time. Kira, did you when they do that like they should have lost on the time. Yeah, Karen. Did you watch lost?

I watched it a little bit beginning. I used to watch I watched weaselot and then I watched a Curkery. Oh, man. I asked you about lost Mark I have my little pinky finger down now, so I can't do that one in doubt. No, I'm interested to know what Kara watches, because Kara, I think, is the most different, than anyone else who works here.

So, like, I think a lot of people, they once said they watched, do you watch most people who work here would say yes. They watched it at one point. I watched it at one point. Yes. But, what's like your favorite TV show of all time? Quite frankly, I was a little surprised your curve. You see as I say

I did have some Jersey. I have to say that. I was with me. Do you watch house watch? Curve or it's always sunny and really do I want to know? So this is not the second case for all. Now it's like, yeah, now it's not. It's too much of an asshole. Curve.

I'm gonna ask the terrible question. I really don't want to know the answer to. Oh, okay. Do you watch the Bachelorette? No. No, I hate. Okay, so not as question. I really don't want to know the answer to do you watch the bachelor at Okay, so not as different as I actually thought I can respect that Pratt of you. You're challenging all of our stereotypes to the carer Okay, you don't want the best right and you can open up your problem with your team all right, wait, okay

Wait, I just remembered cares arms Carrie you have a freaky thing going on with your arms. Karen you month me today. She is hey, so So I haven't been able to feel like my forms for like five days. Five days what you told me to. I'm like, really? She's just can't feel, I can't feel it. Do you think that's bad? Like, yes, I think it's bad. We should go to doctor. Her first instinct, she goes, well, why? Because you can't feel your fucking arms for the past five days. I, well, When did it start? When did it start?

When did it start? When did it start? I don't think it right after RTS, maybe I just don't know. Oh, that sounds like we're pretty late. I'm sure, no, no, no. I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same.

I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same.

I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same. I'm sure it's the same. It feels like it's numb, but. It's not feels like it's numb, but it doesn't tingle, it's just dead. Yes. Yeah, it's cancer. Oh, no, burn me. Burnley told me earlier it was AIDS.

He's like, yeah, he has AIDS. Oh, yeah. And then he goes, he goes, he goes, that's the answer for anything. You know, you throw a hurt to your veins. It's the answer. So never ask for any burny, but I don't know what that is. I would acknowledge from the internet,

if everything is either cancer or AIDS, that's it. Anything other than that is the internet. It's everything easy to cancer or Anything other than that is way better. So why don't we told AIDS first? It's never loop us never ever And every couple years is birthloo That's it. That is cancer. A bird flu. That's it. Damn it. It's been you know I heard a thing. Did we talk about the chart that I saw which was the ways that people die and they charted a hundred years ago I don't read it. I don't years ago. I don't think so. I don't think so. I think they were signs did it.

It's crazy that all the harmonic plague and the harmonic plague. What was the big end of the test? I have all the data as well. When was the Vibhane plague? I'm going to say 1,000, 1,000. 16th century? Where was it? Europe?

Okay. Everyone got in Europe back in the 16 hundred. Everyone thinks that it's rats, but it's actually the mice that are the fleas that were on top of the mice-lash rats or the ones that would carry the disease. Correct. And then it's supposed to have an effect kind of like AIDS people believe that people who are descended now have the certain genes. You guys talked about the podcast by Red About, where they can like deflect the HIV virus

because it's the same thing as the bufonic plague. Kisically? Yeah. The immunity that people inherited for the bufonic plague makes them immune to HIV as well. Oh, okay. It's like 10% I think of the Anglo-Saxon population that comes out of your own. She'll explain, but.

So your f**k does. I have a f**k. I know. It's one of the things they test for on that genetic test I took are you I do have it. I don't have it. I don't have to I'm gonna miss like You know I want the advantage like I realize the advantage is not fair Yeah, but when I don't have it and I'm like I want the unfair advantage I really do I want it and I'm disappointed that I don't have it

Karen is Karen is giving up her seat to let Joel hang in the can Ninja no I would just like to tell the podcast that cares is single and she is available to Open your Fucking teeth as a dentist see you do that before that you'd be really Really tight one big my heat I care I have to drink the beer this means I have to

If you don't want it. Thank you. Well, no, man. All right, you drink it. Hey Joel, welcome back. Hello. Hi. So, why do you enjoy us? Yeah, that's actually Kara was filling in for you very nicely because she banged the table from beginning to end. People love it. People love banging here. What's going on here is that they listen to the podcast.

There's a banging table. Joel's idea of why you listen to the podcast is so different. There's a lot of other drimmers They want to hear us talk about the things Bozon You're gonna keep the beat I think I was money on on all that I don't think I was wrong on anything Anything else in there Do you think the Higgs Bozon discovery will be good for us or bad for us long term?

No, we're all doomed It's gotta be good for us or bad for us long term. No world doomed. It's got to be good, right? But you need to hand science move forward. It's got to be good. I guess. Well, site world one. I mean, it was your Japanese.

You guys remember we're thinking about black holes? That black holes in space are just civilizations that progress to the point where they destroyed themselves the science. Like they're trying to do what we're doing right now I'm too much science and that's what that's what black hole We just want to make it cool right so anything cooler than a black hole I mean really if we can just create one that pretty much just defines our civilization doesn't it?

It does what they're very cool It'd be cool if you make a bike hole and you like fire it with a slingshot at other places. Yeah Fuck them up. That'd be cool You know, people would be sent into black holes. Are you kidding me? I would do that every morning when I came in the office. I'd be like, I don't like you today. You'd be like, shit, fuck that whole.

So if we did make a black hole, though, would that destroy us? Or would it just, or would, as the black hole grew, let's say they built, they discovered one or actually made one with concern in France, right? Discovered by Colman's been No light but like what did they expand and what it slowed down time enough to wear like it wouldn't be this Cataclysm where we're destroyed. It's just like we slowed out on a relative scale and from the outside looking in it looks like we don't exist. It's like that but we're just fine.

This conversation got you science here and you're a bathroom I'll be back. Dave, give me a beer in your way back. I think I'll be like, oh, breaks down everything into like its smallest right? No, no. It doesn't break it down, it's Certainly it'll compress it through extreme gravitational forces. I think if one was made in France, unless it was like tiny in microscopic, it would kill us pretty quickly. If it's microscopic, maybe we'd be around for a bit?

But it would start growing. Yeah, it would start growing pretty quick. You know, like, give me what you're saying. If you're saying that you would suck everything in and destroy it. Right. But as you're entering the black hole, doesn't time stretch and slow down. What's your past that event horizon? Right.

So from the outside looking in, it looks like everything is destroyed. But our frame of time reference would stretch out so long that we might never reach the point. It's kind of like a half the distance thing. We never reach the point at which we perceive ourselves as destroys. So where is it just like stepping from the rest of the universe? The podcast was destroyed as soon as they walked in. Let's just get to the point. What's happening? What's happening? We're talking separate from the rest of the universe. The podcast was destroyed as soon as they walked in. Let's just get to the point.

What's happened? We took about beer bottles. What I've heard is that once you cross that threshold of the event horizon, that you aren't necessarily perceived as destroyed from the outside. So like, let's say in the black hole, and you're outside of it, to you, I would just appear to start fading away.

OK. I would still be here, but you I would slowly dim and get the place. Gush, you fainted a little years ago. It seems like the deeper we go in science, the more that like perspective starts to enter the situation, which is weird. Well, it's like that video you linked several months back about the observer affecting the outcome. That's that's it still makes me mad. Yeah, like

perception and observation have direct influence over the outcome. Did you watch the video? Yes. Yeah, that's made you mad at the universe Yeah, just quit fucking around. Don't get bring it open. Jesus Christ Isn't shit, so she's open it. She opens it with her teeth. You saw that was not it's That's impressive. There's no way I could do that she single Is that what you think a shark does? Shake like a dog they go Oh my god, I'm not a hundred

Real quick 25th anniversary of shark week is coming out but I'm fucking excited. It's shark week That was shark footage can they're possibly a ton there's only like 10 hours But I'll watch that shit until like you know they go You know the same clips every guy We gonna get to the point where they have a Discovery Channel show where they're like, this is Neil, we're gonna put Neil in the water and show them some food and we'll record it. I did it, but it's 25th here. What are we gonna get at that? I want to see a dude get eaten by a shark.

Come in next week, Neil is gonna be in the Discovery Channel. I don't want to see a reality show starring sharks that are competing to get on Shark Week. So they have to be the sharkiest and whoever's's the sharkiest with, that's the end. And there's a panel of judges. Have you ever seen that Snickers commercial for it's like a market research? Yes. And they're in a group.

It's weird. Yeah, this market research people are interviewing two sharks. They're like, what did you think of Neil? It's like, he was good. I feel like there was a little something extra in him. They're like, oh, Neil ate a Snickers with peanut butter or something.

Yeah, I thought I'd taste a peanut butter. Can we bring him back and get another body? It's like, what the fuck am I watching? It was kind of strange. That's not watch. Those sharks are above water. That doesn't make any goddamn sense. Plus sharks do not want peanut butter.

Well, they get fizz-suba gear instead of talking. I actually think they need to be sharp that a shark will bite stuff to figure out if it wants to interact with what I do. That's what I say. I'll say shit. We're great species. That's why I call this shake hand. Yeah, I'm just gonna bite a wants to interact with you. That's what I do. That's it. I'll say shit. We're great species.

That's why Pate Shake hands. Yeah, I was like, I'm just going to buy the little piece off of you. And then make a judgment. That's the weather now. And a little piece is relative. I think the size of the shark. So I was actually watching this every channel last night. They had something it was called Mermaids, the body fat.

Oh, and it was that. It was a, it was a, it was a air courts documentary about, about how they found a body of a mermaid. And so, this thing was completely fake, but it was show. No shit, my eyes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no their RV or something like, oh, Marmory's, I told you, they's out there. Like, I mean, not bringing my family into the car. You know, when I was a kid, and we had things called documentaries, they were boring, but

then sciencey, black and white, factual things. And now it's like they've been the term of what the documentary is. They Michael Bated, yeah. Oh God, it's so bad. You know, when we were kids, you know know what the big documentary that we hear about all the time We go to the planetarium to see is how We were heading into another ice age and then that we're not the window now We're going into global peeding and global warming and all that

Global war We're going to see just that. Yeah, what results in ice age climate change which ultimately will lead to another What he's like they didn't talk about that when I was a. And that was something that had a picture of you fueling your car on the right. Like this angle is going to cause. I think a toll ride have now lived long enough to go through and I say somehow it's all I can know in your thread. It wasn't that bad. Like they made it out to be some terrible, refined, fine.

Totally fine. Totally fine. Many good movies. When we were going to, it was like, I mean, the Russians have no shit. They're going to kill you. It's going to be horrible. And that's what we grew up to, it was like, I mean, the Russians have no shit. They're gonna kill you, it's gonna be horrible. And that's what we grew up with. And now you guys, we have everyone to tear us if they're not white.

That's what we have. When we grew up, we were talking terrible time to grow because it was like, you were 10 seconds away from dying in nuclear fire at any point, at any point in time, or you were the eights. I just want you to know, you just reached, you just reached an old person milestone when you just told us how bad your childhood was

compared to archery. I'm just saying, you should grub because they were telling everything was gonna fucking kill you My day you're just trying to include the word milestone Also, it's just a no every drug was gonna fucking kill you If you took anything the moment you take it you're gonna go insane you're pulling your own teeth out They took you and put a baby in the oven. Yeah, you're gonna open your bottles with your teeth. That's how dare was. You're gonna head straight to the train right to the red lights. It's really worth getting in.

I think hot looked like LSD. Like, they took the worst of all doors. Did you see every permanence, Joel? That shit will make you want to kill people. Yeah, they forced us to watch that. I remember seeing a graphic as a kid. That was a joint. It was like one of these you know info graphics

For us joint equals and it was two hundred and twelve cigarettes Then you smoked one joint was seen as smoking two hundred twelve cigarettes. Well that's a science science It's a film is directly Oh when they would play the the toe and you have to turn it the And you go to mix mix slide. Yeah, we're really taking a lot of machines We're really dating sound machines. I'm this shit when I was a kid. Our tools were basically like flashlights with little plastic pieces, that is what we had.

That's depressing. What's that joke? I'm sorry, just right. That's essentially what that projector was like. It was a flashlight. Projectors are awesome. And then you would play like, say, the company, on your consent.

There was a lot of you said it's like, yeah, turn the door with the feet Next slide turn the one with that. It was like fucking 1950s technology So I just got smoking is equal to how many cigarettes and it shows smoking one joint is equivalent to 20 cigarettes study says the website that's got Fox News That's how you know it's true. Well, it's just funny, because it was like, that was the, you know, era of... It was a very conservative era in American time. Are there any Reagan?

Non-bice news outlets left, or is every news outlet... Does every news outlet now have its own agenda and slant? Well, did you guys hear that MSNBC just changed your name? They're not MSNBC anymore. Right, yeah, Microsoft dropped it. NBCNews.com. Really? Yeah, they just changed.

That's a weird thing, they're... The news agency. Yeah, I get what? Did NBCNews.com. Really? Yeah, they just changed. That's a weird thing there. Big news agency. Yeah, I get what the MSC for Microsoft? Yeah. Is that the deal? Yeah, I get it. So, over, see, it got to the point where I don't think anyone knew that. You guys are talking about weird commercials, like that's Naker's commercial?

Yeah. During Breaking Bad last night, this is a regional commercial, so we'll have to post a link to the video of it if it needs to be. They go and see. All right, hit me. We're really gonna... What am I learning today? There's a time-water commercial, which is it starts with a puddle on the ground

on the street, but it's not a puddle of water, it's a puddle of blood and it's raining blood into the puddle and then it shows mailboxes and it's raining blood on the mailboxes. Oh, okay. And then it cuts to the ground, he said it's time-water cable. And that's it. Then there's another commercial where a guy is sweeping blood off of a like a store, like floor, he's like mopping up my aisle for whatever and There's a drip of blood dripping from the ceiling and dripping in his bald head and he's looking up like that's stupid blood And it's blood over the place time on a cable. Are you kidding? What the fuck is this? I can't wait. I'm like five times breaking baggy today and I made everybody stop every time and watch it

I haven't seen the time order bring violence into your home. In your life. Well, hide your dead bodies for you. Time order. That's all it was? That's it, dude. Well, that's it. It made no fucking sense. It freaked me out. Is it like a show coming out?

Maybe some sort of print. I'm telling you, that's it. There's no explanation for what it was. Well, in their defense, time order has some of the worst fucking commercials I've ever seen in my life. Gosh, that's psychotic. I mean, it made no sense at all.

They probably play those before every thunderstorm because they know they're getting an influx of customer calls as to why everything is down. And so they just start throwing those commercials out there and maybe I should call. That's what they want to achieve. That's so fucking bizarre. Gus, you seem, what's up with you today? I'm mad that Miles brought me a beer.

I can't open. Yeah, I can open it on the table right here. But I don't want to find it on the table. It's tough to guess. How have you been, Joel? I've been, what was your favorite part of RTX? Good, God, that's a really hard to say. I mean, the whole event was a fantastic event.

Might have got a little bit intoxicated. Didn't remember what happened, woke up the next next day and to some videos that I'm like what the hell is that? I beat the shit out of Kerry and You were there. I was I Was that you stop me? You were trying to stop it at all look like you were like I guess laughing as you try to stop them Yeah, sorry, that's why stop stuff. Well, no, it pretty well. I thought, I mean, you guys did a great job. I think everyone, I think the fans were great.

I think everything worked out pretty well. And that's some of the nicest people. Yeah, I mean, I thought it was really, I thought, I think it would well. Yeah. From where I remember. It was just, the stage was a lot of fun. Yeah.

You know, it was weird. It's during the podcast, it was weird to not see other people, like sitting next to people in a big row versus like, we should have turned the tables, at least. Maybe that's what it was. There was something weird about it. It was totally weird, because you don't have like that eye contact,

it was weird. It's like you're more connected to the audience and the other people on the panel. And I couldn't see the audience, because it was so dark. No, you couldn't see the light. We had to light it up. Yeah, that's what you meant.

We're saying it was like a black seed, nothingness. They're like, oh, hello audience, I hope you're there. I think when we start doing our streaming podcasts, we won't do as much audience interaction as we did at that event. It's a little different when it's live and there are people there versus, you know, just people watching a live stream. Yeah, I mean, the notion is like we do important people over there, so we kind of, I want to say we don't have best behavior.

Because, yeah, go ahead. I like this is to say we're best behavior because yeah go ahead this is the time Warner at right here that enjoyed better pommies it's raining blood just like you said there's some eerie-ass music in the background when it rains it pours time-warned cable enjoy better this what it says oh yep mailboxes when it rains it pours. What the fuck? That's a fucking ant for tiny food. This is puddles. The apocalypse is coming by time more. So are you ready to eat commercial? Teasing another commercial? I don't know. Is it like a lucky dead promo? I was wondering. I was wondering. I thought

true blood said it maybe. Dude true blood got weird. But time Warner shouldn't be sent to. About six. To promote one channel over another. Right, chew blood on AMC. It doesn't make any sense. And they don't take chew blood anywhere in the end. Wait, no chew bloods on- Oh, I think it's on the end. They're-

Oh, I think I see that I saw it. Yeah. I don't know. I can say AMC's have a problem with the dish in that work, right? Yeah. Viacom. Viacom.

Viacom took everything off of the dish. That includes CVS, MTV. That's happening. I didn't know AMC, but apparently AMC is right. I had never heard of this kind of problem beforeS, MTV. That's happening. I didn't know what I'm seeing, but apparently I'm seeing it. I had never heard of this kind of problem before, maybe three or four years ago, and now it seems like every couple of months there's a cable provider who's having trouble with a network or like people who drop it. This podcast, I didn't, but I guess you guys predicted this.

This is going to happen. You said this is going to happen years ago, right? It's happening. This was the subject of my keynote speech itself by Southwest in like 2006, I think. I think it was like, well, five, I think maybe like people who people on some of the business shows were commenting on it. And they were saying basically content wins every time who's ever producing the content is going to win.

So why don't we just get to that point and move on? Yeah, I mean, the access providers for a long period of time enjoyed the fact that, you know, they kind of held everything hostage. But now, especially because of the access providers for a long period of time enjoyed the fact that, you know, they kind of held everything hostage But now especially because of the internet put a foot of funny name their access providers I mean I have the fact that they held it all hostage pretty much. It's like you want access to our pipes and access to all the homes You have to you know, it's the deal where they make money getting the content They make money giving the content, you know, it's just it's crazy. Yeah, and now they're they're providing access to the internet Which is undermined that whole other business right. So time Warner has a big cable division, essentially an IP division, you mean internet

protocol division, where they deliver data and people like Netflix and Hulu are enjoying that. And what meanwhile, on the other side of time, where does business, they're watching other video demand, which is a video on demand, which is a huge rush for everything, just dropping. What would you do? I mean, it's like you would find a way to cap your bandwidth side, you Yeah. And just make more money and forget a way to get an netflix and go, the fuck out of there. I think this is going to work out, man. I think there's always these rumors about Google is building another internet. Which kind of like, what was that movie with Jody Foster where they built another

machine to center in space? Contact. Yeah. And that spoiler. Contact with Matthew McConaughey and Jody Foster. But like, Google's just going to go, oh yeah, and that spoiler Contact with Matthew McConaughey and Jodie Foster, but like Google's just gonna go oh yeah the internet's all fucked up Yeah, here's our internet a new one. Well, they wrote about that high-speed internet access for that in Topeka or someplace Yeah, I don't I don't know they yeah, they remember they have the contest like cities could apply to get like the Google Fiverr and See why they wouldn't do it if they they want to, if they, like already they want to monitor your traffic to better target ads to you, why wouldn't they just monitor all your traffic data, not just your search if they run the access, like we'll give you free internet, we're just going to monitor everything you fucking do.

It's kind of creepy because we started with AOL and then we're going to go full circle back around AOL again, except we're going to have to be called Google. Right, that always happens. I mean, we were talking about the sale of digs here about that this week. No, okay Not to go back too far, but dig soul this week you know dig dot com vaguely. Yes, okay So it was a big social media. Oh, right. Oh, yeah, yeah, they sold this week and to you any oh god I can't take the name of the company it's the internet star that's gonna merge in with news dot me How much do you think dig soul for today in 2012 just a while guess suit a little bit like five hundred thousand dollars

That's where that thing can fall to you so we were talking about like the window of like when these businesses are big versus when people get out of my space and face do you think Facebook will ever I guess it listen I guess it's a good diminished at least a little bit I think it's gonna go and you think it's a good diminished at least a little bit. Do you think it's going to go off right now completely? Absolutely. Yes. It's not really diminishing because the Twitter, everyone and my sister's great and lower.

Yeah, the problem they're having, and I think that it's a problem everyone I did if I sorry. I mean, the do-go out of here is mobile. It's what's killing everyone. There's no way for them to monetize it. And it's an increasing market. Yeah. It's going to kill them.

There's also the long march which is young people eventually take over and it's hard to believe for people who are 20 and 21 now but there's gonna be people that are 2010 years from now who aren't gonna want to be on Facebook with your old ass. They're not gonna want to be on Facebook with a lot of people. Yeah, no one wants to be on Facebook. We just have to talk about what we do on Facebook. Right. It gets to the point where it was mom is on Facebook, then it definitely could be lights out.

Just as we had your mom, versus Blue, my space, you served the personal homepage. I think that was impossible. I thought that was like the basic atomic unit of the internet, essentially. My space got rid of the personal homepage. And then Facebook, after my space had a hold on everything, on everything, Facebook came into the role role and now look at look at all

though Myspace did a lot of wrong. You know a lot of things wrong. Well, Myspace let its users do a lot of things wrong. It's the problem. Sure. Myspace also focused on music. That's a bad thing. I mean that usually is music dominates a lot of stuff for me even when we look at the metrics on YouTube. A lot of band pages on Myspace. They will take it. They will take away the music metrics on YouTube? On the band pages on MySpace. They will take away the music metrics on YouTube because they overpower everything else. Because a music video might get 450 million views. And ironically, that is really, really what started

chasing me away from MySpace. This is when I got to the point where everyone was like, hey, come this is my band, come this is my band, it's like you couldn't, it was like walking through a cyber cafe of like, how does people would put it? Picture after picture. Picture. Fire is being, to grab a plate.

Or it's like, low page hit pause. That was the thing. Yeah, that was the thing. I don't care about your background music. I don't know what that's going to do. Yeah, that, that, that, that, that, there should be a license to have the like for. I'm glad you like dashboard conventional.

Everything, everything changes eventually. I mean, that's the main thing. Everything changes. I think, you know, currently the, the biggest threat for Facebook, like I said, is mobile and I think you know currently the the biggest threat for Facebook Like I said it's mobile and Twitter, you know, those are the big ones But the other thing is how's Twitter making money? I guarantee you they're not profitable. They're still living on the internet They're capital so they're gonna kill it's Facebook and

Not making you what to do you can know nothing about the internet and like be on Twitter and just get like the random tweet ad and it rubs everyone the wrong way. I don't know of a single person where it's like, the thing is I buy stuff. Like if they could pair up with what I'm looking for, like throw me a beer tweet. Yeah, throw me a beer tweet, it's fine. Have they throw me a beer tweet?

They have not throw me a beer tweet. Yeah, they've got a problem. They don't know if you're over 21 or 21 or so. I usually get like menopause ads on my Facebook. I'm like, thanks. That's cool. I've got, honestly. I've got no problems with the way Twitter handles ads or promoted tweets I think they're fine. I don't think I've ever purchased anything through a promoted tweet Yeah, but I mean, I'll read them. I really really like Twitter. I love Twitter and you're right They they add so bother me enough that I would stop using

Twitter, but like I don't follow through on the ads there. But, you know, I don't know. I signal him. So, okay. You know Instagram sold to Facebook? For a million dollars? Yeah. Which was amazing.

I just want to float it out there again. Yes. Facebook must have bought us. We will sell for two billion dollars. Absolutely. I have the authority to execute this transaction. You can look up for a million dollars. But that's what we're going to do. $2 billion absolutely. I have the authority to execute this transaction. I'm looking for a win-out.

But that's what it was. When I went out on his own and did that, like he was basically like, I'm gonna do this. I don't care what anyone says, I'm doing it. And he did it. It's how that happened. Really? Well, yeah.

I mean, that's how he wants it, right? Have you guys seen the new thing that's kind of catching on like Instagram? The sinnagram? Yeah, the sinnagram? Yeah, those are the accused. Yeah, it's like we take the parole. Oh yeah, what is the first show this time of the day? And it blew my mind. Jack talked about that while you were in Australia. Yeah, the Synagram. Yeah, this is a little cute. Yeah, it's like we take the photo. Oh yeah. What is the phrase?

I showed this to my other day and they blew my mind. Jack talked about the one you were in. Oh, I was really? Yeah, okay. What is that? What is the Synagram? It's really cool. And so you take a photo, but you're taking a video, and then you only animate a portion of the

frame. You can make really cool gifts with it. It's the first thing I thought of. It's pretty cool. I remember the first time I saw one of those, it was really cool. It was like just a person like reading the newspaper in New York. Oh yeah. It just looked like a picture and then they turn the page and put my mind exploded.

He showed me one. Now everyone can do that? Yeah. He has one of like girls' hair is waving. I'm like, ooh it's like a Harry Potter painting. So there's this thing in New England. You know, it's really crazy. Like how the pathway that something goes from like, wow that can be done to.

Now it's an app and everyone can do it. Yeah. That was how I thought about Instagram. Like, you know, it's just like there's three different filters that make you look really demon like a good photographer. Now everyone can fucking do, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, as well. She's like, this is my catalog work. I took a picture of this. I took a picture of this rose in the rain. I got the light. When I first got it, I was like, man, I can take good pictures. And then after a while, I looked at everyone else's like, man, oh, fucking asshole. The worst is when people do that. Like, they don't save the original. Like,

that's all we've got. That's the band-aid picture. Shitty picture. I usually associate it with like, not to be stereotypical, but I usually associate it with the college girl with the big blonde hair. I was like, yeah, out with the not to be stereotypical, but I usually associate it with the college girl with the big blonde hair I was like yeah out with the girls and then like the all tweet pictures like make it all cool and like artsy with it with that Instagram I guess I'm gonna tell so many to human sure but they also have the ironic iPhone case, you know It is. Is it one of those in this room? No, no I have these some shitty. I only use that one. I think it's like a toaster. Yeah Can I tell you I just saw the most aggravating one of all time.

What's that? Which was, we were taking photos in Australia. We were doing a sign in Gavin and I were in there. And somebody held up their phone, their iPhone, to take a photo of us. And their case was an old camera. Oh, like the last time I got the case. The last time I got the case. And I was like, I didn't know where to look.

I'm like, I didn't know what off of the side. Oh, that's the camera. I thought the camera was the camera. I can't. I was been all here, went off on the side. Oh, that's the camera. I thought the camera was the camera I can't just laugh and I mean it's a camera and a camera man. Yeah, I've given a Pope of their ever being a good picture Take it of me ever so once you get to that point what's wrong with you? You don't think your father Jenna? No, I have not I've seen I've seen I've seen thousands of photos of each old you look great in photos No, that's not you're just a hard judge my wife hates me because she says I look identical in every photo I can. I have a problem. Gus, I want you to read aloud the top tweet on that page for everyone please. Cat parasite me increased risk

of suicide in humans. You better fucking click it man. John's so scared. That's treated by a slap shot. I knew it. I knew it. It's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. Yeah, it's the cats. familiar. It's the cats natural defense mechanism. Haven't you ever heard that there's a parasite carried by cats that is 50% of the world population? What? That makes people more docile and more prone to like cats. Are you serious? Are you serious?

That explains the fuck at a cat way. Are you serious? I understand myself now. 50% of the global population has a parasite. Okay, so I've heard of this parasite before. I've heard of the parasite that wants to make people, you know, have to see like make you want to kill yourself. And I don't know what to do because I have read it. I know I've never heard the end of it. So I swarly had you read it. But you're true. That's sad. That's not tweeted. It must be true. What if Joe's

trying to kill his soul? No, that is the cat's natural defense mechanism. I hate you. Like a scorpion has a tail that's poisonous. A cat's like, I love you. Oh, you look cute. You go pet it. Do you want to kill yourself? See, that's the cat's defense mechanism. That's why cats have survived the ages.

You know what though? Cats are amazing animal though, because the cuteness of the cat is totally relative to the proportion of your size to the cat. A cat is bigger than you is fucking horrifying. You don't wanna have like a pint of cat's volume? You have. You can eat it. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm kind of scary. Well, these are calf taz may need devil. He went for crotch though. There are exclusions to the role. No cats are, yeah, I mean, yeah, not good.

Do not get like you get into the circus and I don't know what it is. I had a friend that I already told the story on the podcast. I showed it probably shouldn't tell. Yeah, should the fuck up, Joel? You told the parents story. I told the parents story. I told the story before. Oh, okay. I can't know.

No, no, no, no. Don't worry about this. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of the door. You can't argue again. Did you lock the door? No, I'm not. He's not here. He's not a job. I feel bad because we kind of screwed Lindsay on the podcast. How? How are you screwing me? We had four microphones with a podcast I think and Monty came in to the panel which is fine but then we were short on microphones so I didn't know how to do the device microphone up.

So on the OCD, that was a stupid setup. We had two microphones per seat. One was for the audience to hear us, and one was for the record. Why? I think that's your stupid. Actually, they both worked. They both recorded. I just had them there for redundancy.

Oh. I didn't tell you all that, because I didn't want you to think you could only use one. Why? But they could have handed one off when Franco Conner came in. I didn't get a gun as a mic See what happened glimpsial though the silver mics were all track five but then the black mics were all separate to individual tracks Oh, everyone sounded fine. So when you're just telling me about it, my uh, sounds okay I was shouting the extra loud because I was like That was like what the fuck did he hit? If you had told me, I would be trying to move like,

the other mic would I have to move away from it. So it's like, I was shouting in there with all the microphones in here, mate. Gus, can you give us clarity? Because I've been tweeting photos this week of the podcast tech test. Can you give us clarity on what's happening? As soon as I post a photo,

they have a billion more questions. Which are finalizing our technical requirements and the setup for that. We have some... It's looking good. Yeah, we have to do some finishing on the desk. We'll probably be ready to go. I hate to say the date, but we'll probably be ready to go by the end of the month. We'll be working on it for a while. Yeah. We want to, I mean, we've really built an awesome, it's almost like like a television studio. We've really built an awesome infrastructure. It's pretty cool. It's to handle multiple cameras and audio and We've really built an awesome infrastructure. It's pretty cool to handle multiple cameras and audio

And it's really really awesome and we're not using it. You've run it out to the local new station or a second Joel there was actually a discussion at one point about building a miniature skyline of Austin Yeah, David and I have not given up on it yet. So I'm that we can put on God's illicit and real estate to this conference around it I love that So we were doing promotion for RTX. Yeah. We had a photographer at the Statesman come by our local newspaper.

And she was like, oh, where do you want to take a picture? I said, well, let's go do take pictures out here at the podcast set. Oh, yeah. So she went out there and take pictures of us. And she was like, oh, it's kind of dark. I was like, oh, here we're going to turn the light spots.

I turned the key nose on. She's like, oh, wow, this is awesome. This is way better than the studio. I have set up at the States Really? It was a really good. Yeah, that place is falling apart. Nice. It's depressing. Noted. I was like, wow, we're just We're just gonna be on the internet. Well, I don't know if you I mean you did some local news stuff for like promotions of our Jackson we did some for season 10 as well and it's just it's always interesting to go to local new stations and they have robotic cameras. Yeah, what?

There's no camera man on the cameras on the local NBC affiliate. The humans are thrilled about that. It's like, and yes, they only have one dude who, who like is like is directing the show. He runs like sign up. He's the person who's like making the cuts between the cameras, moving the robotic cameras and like doing video

insertion. And all the over cameras, and doing video insertions, and all the old releases, one dude who runs the entire broadcast. Jesus, he kinda creepy. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, the creepiest thing I heard in terms of robots replacing humans is there was a story in wire about robots in a warehouse that was picking, like we're saying for the Amazon,

they would pick packages off the shelf based on barcode or location, and they would make the packages send to people. And the robots were working great and the humans like working with the robots, but then they realized that because of just regulations, they headed like throttle the robots down because the humans were in danger if the robots were put at their full potential. So they got rid of all the humans so they could turn the robots up to like 45 miles an hour.

It was actually the staples.com fulfillment. That's what it was. It was a nice creep. So they have like these robots that, you know, you just like zip around it 45 miles an hour in the warehouse pitching up. Damn robots taking all our jobs. Picking up orders and packing them.

What's big? They're taking us to that. I wonder if you look better. I wonder if this video for that. They were talking about a robot teachers for a while, right? Like a couple years ago, they were talking about, I not dead serious. They were talking about doing that in college Like having essentially like robot like you put in a video and like enter your answers here to do it There you go 30-second class think about this think about like you're on Amazon and it recommends or staples

And it recommends based on your previous purchase that you buy one of those robot vacuum cleaners of room Yeah, room buff. I think so you buy it But then a robot goes and picks it up and delivers it to you and puts it in your package, packs it up, ships it out, and then it gets delivered to you and you have your robot vacuum cleaners. Where are you in that process? The website recommended it. A robot delivered it and you deliver a robot to you.

It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it needs in that process. That's the value in that process that process exceeds what the outcome is The amount of value that is in that whole process of delivering and maintaining and getting into the thing So this thing can now spend the rest of its life picking up shit off my car. Right exactly It's like the coke machine of the pizza place. It's like the most advanced pizza technology ever It you know used in my daily life and it gives me a coke. That thing is awesome. It's like at the end of the day, I got a sugar water.

I went there the other day. Which is bad for me, it's gonna get it. Exactly. I went to that pizza place of the day with the fancy coke machine. You know that was made famous in the animated adventure. And the machine was broken. Like I looked at it and it was like a windows error screen. Like a dot screen was up.

A blown screen? I was like, oh that sucks. And the one by the kind of was like yeah What do you want to drink? I was like is it a machine broken? I don't know what you did. I was like I want a coke. Okay, so for behind the counter she pulls out like a two meter of coke I Ported into a cup for me. I was like no, that's fucking Barric No, I know but you know like 15 years now 20 years from now to be like the machine is broken

We're all in danger That's how to provide for ourselves. Yeah, absolutely true Michael's literally said to me if the internet goes out kill me Like it was like fix the fuel injection in your car Just kind of crap out a little bit in the middle of the desert if somebody else is like feeling that you're just like holy fuck

we're watching a video of robots i'm like watching a Jetson episode right now so i guess they can probably I guess they can probably communicate with each other via rf or wireless to let them know what path they're going to take So they can point to these guys They're using calligraphy to let the team Yeah, but the and they also you know we're gonna lose though. We're gonna lose those awesome

Videos from inside of warehouse or somebody like back to forklift off They've got to frequent all I've worked with off the board. Oh, that's the best. They've not just freaked the head off. Oh my god, that's how my finger is. It's like, oh, it looks like it's trying to guard nose. And then all of a sudden, it's like his torrent of water. It's like pouring off a shanker head to some dope ramp.

Do you remember the year we went to ACOP and someone did that at the fucking hotel we were staying in? Oh, remember. It was like in the floor, below where I was staying. Like all of a sudden the fire alarm went off and those like, what the fuck's going on? I don't know what you're saying, it was like a floor below where I was staying. Like all of a sudden the fire alarm went off and it was like what the fuck's going on. So we were starting going down the stairs and I got to the point of floor below us where I realized that someone had activated one of the fire, one of the sprinklers

and he'd set off every sprinkler on the floor and it was just a torrent of water everywhere on that floor and then going out the stairs down. Oh my god. The stairs went The boss. There's water runs all the time. It just takes one little team and it's like, we're dead. Why do I like? Never any of this was flooded.

It was like something out of a movie. It was stuck on the second amusement park. You're like, oh hey, the Bernie Hotel water run. Yay. Everybody come home. It was the middle school that I went to one time. It was the main. It ran cement.

Oh yeah, your friends cards. Or that guy's in there. OK, so I went to when I was in middle school that I went to one time. Oh really? It ran cement, so it's... Oh yeah, your friend's cards. Or that guy's in there. Okay, so I went to, when I was in middle school, they were doing construction on the school that I went to, and they did it in a fucking ass backwards way too. They started with the sixth grade wing, then seventh grade wing, then the eighth grade wing, which meant one class, my fucking class,

had to deal with construction every single year. Oh, that was one wing per year. It was one wing per year, it was a big school. So, I like that. It can't trick your experience to be the worst one so so so um there was one you know in high school middle school there's uh if you

have different courtyards there's like you know there's a goth kids thing out of the over there there's the jocks of there there's one courtyard that was like it was the nerdy courtyard there were the people with the poker the magic the the UEO cards. And one morning I got the bus, my buddy, my buddy and I were walking in class. I'm awesome because, and we look over, I'm like, what the hell was that?

And then all of a sudden, we're like, oh, hey, it's raining. And then we realized, there was a pipe of liquid cement on the top of the roof of the building, a valve had burst and it just started spraying liquid cement into the sky and it started raining down in this courtyard. Lucky it. This is what happens.

It starts raining. My first thing is get the fuck out of there. I saw the saddest thing that day. It was a saddest thing that will. The saddest thing that will. The greatest. It was the greatest. The audience will decide.

All these kids who are playing you know, Yu-Gi-O and Pokemon that are playing their card games, it starts raining cement and I saw this like a little kid with like a bowl, chili bowl haircut and like thick ass glasses. We blew my blue eyes. I mean, Dauvando is on his rare Yu-Gi-Oh card and sacrificed himself. I was covered absolutely. I was so mad. I didn't even make a night blew-l-eye.

When he was completely wiped out, they finally, they finally fixed it. And it was just like the aftermath from a battle. Like, you know, like nobody was fucking talking You were like some kid cry and opt in a distance If you have been covered in cement police report to the nurses office in a calm manner and it would just fucking sounded laughing How do you get the kids covered in cement to go to the nurse's office? We hope that please get some people to chisel the children out of the car. You're not the fantastic That is fucking phenomenal. My blue eyes is probably the business

I can never fucking figure out break one of my favorite like tell you the name of the site Yeah, I just Fort lift rings down. It was better when there's big boys Big dash voice duck So it's for it. Let's point for this thing. We're gonna miss out on these for the rest of our lives because fork lift is made for comedy So We're gonna miss out on these for the rest of our lives because forklift is made for comedy Has like a big cylinder of gas in the back of it so it's like somebody come along and shoot it on explode It's like maybe for comedy It's No

So we almost got Oh, shit! It's the second one this year! Oh, god! So we almost got fucked up by a porklip that our GX, I don't know if you know this. I mean, yeah? Are you literally got fucked up by that? Yeah. That's how our fulfillment house that delivers all of our stuff, all of their forklifts broke the morning. There's once a deliverer our stuff to the work to the convention center.

So then they had to like rent forklifts and bring them in from some other, like his rental place in order to, uh, to get our stuff out the door and to the show door and to the show. It's it's I thought I fucking hate forklifts right now I found the top 10 forklifts acting on YouTube. I might be gone for me. Oh, that's good See anytime anyone gets into a forklift binyhill music. She just start playing Well, it's I don't know if they've been like a in a bobcat Which can't like a small bulldozer or in a forklift, there's a cage around the cock. I still want to have bobcat fights. I'll do a cat You can get different attachments in the front of the bobcat. I have bobcat fights I've been wanting to have bobcat fights for like 14 fucking years. You get a rock hammer on attachment for the front of a bobcat

You should be able to choose your loadout like a video game You're like don't like the rock hammer or don't want to hold those are blades like I raise a USA with bobcat Just fight conditioning. It sounds like if Miles hears like a jackhammer, he would be able to do multiplication like so much faster. Like because he spent all his formative years in school around construction equipment. Fucking miserable. I just got to get it moving shit.

Because we had to move to the, to the, uh, portables, every single thing in this area. Thanks. Oh those portable buildings. Yeah, you get to the worst. They're going to be in the portable. It's just, it's not really a classroom. You can like the rejects of the school. It's held faded. It's not really a classroom. You can't like the rejects of the school. It's

held outside. It's a one-year-old. It's a one-year-old. Every year of my middle school. The rejects of the school. Oh, yeah, you're right. I hate that solution. I wish they would just come out with something different. Like buildings. Oh, yeah. Like build a school. How about that? How about we're not keeping it living in hotness? We can't. We can actually build a building for our kids to go to school in. They're not nomads. They're going to, you're no longer going to learn. You don't need to move the fucking building. I'm just a mare's butt at when I see poor people.

It's all over the schools. This is the worst. Just build a school a little bit bigger. I've been no one to pay for it. People want the bigger school, but no one wants to pay for it. Why do you never ever set the old school? Why do you never set the old school? People say, you hear people bitch like,

oh, I have a property taxis of one up, three years ago, I don't want to move up again. That's people with that kids. They're going to die. Thankfully the country is on decline. Yeah. And so if the school will be getting smaller, naturally. I still have to pay property taxes.

Why not? I have no kids. Yeah, with education benefits, everybody gets. Yes, but it benefits people with kids more than it benefits people. I know I can't do it. I understand. I understand. I understand.

I benefit in the long term from these kids who are educated, but I don't take from the system what people, people other people take. Does education benefit like, does it? Yes, yes. You wouldn't have a doctor when you're sick if they weren't educated. No, we get forklift robots, so to take place adopters, I'm gonna be okay. Yeah. It'll be a lot of money.

It's cancer. It's your blue eyes. We're sorry. You have these. It's cancer You're blue eyes Sorry We usually have you like they're stupid but the fact that we all drive The roads every single day in these complex machines and we don't kill each other all the time It's pretty amazing. Yeah, I mean you don't be on the road a bunch of people just completely uneducated people Have you seen any robot cars in all these dashed-pams from Russia?

That's all I need to say. I saw a video that was Jackass in Russia apparently Jackass in Russia Like raised in the state I mean we should just link it Lindsay. I show it to you. It's true. From the country they brought you flinging this girl off a roof. Did you just call that video right? Yeah, that was terrifying. She's just totally cool about it. She's like, woo! Yeah! Oh my god, she's about to jump in.

She's literally the worst here. She's so pretty. Actually, she's the worst here in this place on earth. Russia just at some point went, you know what? Hey, fuck it. Yeah, fuck it. Is we don't care. Are they faulting? Are there any video game conventions in Russia?

Let's go to Russia. Oh, Jesus Christ. Let's go to Moscow. Like, live at Kayla. Do they have video games in Russia? Aside from Tetris? No, that's actually... I wonder if the Xbox or PlayStation are even released in Russia.

I'm calling the Soviet Union. Jesus. We're going to take three to put in your credit card and write dot are you? Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. It's not happening. There's so many, that is so down the list of things I would do.

There are things above that list that are discussing it all. You know, it would be nice if you had to do it every day. That's why it's Jack Ashford. I would be interested to get a credit card and brand new credit card and just put it on a site and just see what's it would have. Get purchased by that's Jack Ashford. It would be interesting to get a credit card or brand new credit card and just put it on a site. I just see what's it. Get purchased by that. Well, thanks for volunteering, Bernie. No, thanks for what happened. Yeah, it probably would be pretty much the same credit card, same with the Jack gets every

probably all the same site. It's all from flush line. I can't believe I brought that up again. Inverted, you said the words though, I didn't say the words. What? Never let it go. Rhymes with Reshrine. I don't know, I don't know.

Don't worry about the left one. Don't worry about it. Oh. Yeah, I kind of missed out on that one. I'm kind of glad that I did. I guess I dodged a little on the right. I dodged a little on the right. I did shoot a video of the, it was like some little like,

village in China that they thought they found some new Oh It was like a rubber vagina and rubber in us It was like a They rubber vagina and rubber anus it was like a tube and they I just think I'm very in the ground they reported it was like a bullet or more part of China that you reported the news the news since the station center reported it she does the story on it and then the next day they have to issue an apology and then their apology they say the

reporter was really young She didn't know me better. Oh, yeah That's why so people don't report a fleshlight is a new species Wasn't a flesh like it was like a super flesh like they're a removable part of a fucking real Chinese knockoff some China do you just totally job dodge the bullet go ahead and take a punch go ahead and take fresh right go ahead and go go ahead yeah I know you want you really good just rolls off the tongue all right right guys this is the time to knock off gosh just turn the air we know itself and he's

showing shake his head depression we're going right to it. I thought we could talk about, we can't make fun of an accent, but we can talk about having sex with a fake vagina and butt hole. That's fine. We'll think about the kids. You know what? I got to admit, what I'm using Japan is that I, how's that work out by the way?

That was totally fine. You would think it would be like an alien world where did you find panty by the emergency? No Pantsy many machines totally more than we're got five for gal I tried to order them Vinnon what happened in Japan they did service chicken skins and chicken bones Yeah, and I think I was a joke did you have a regulated pig? I would eat the shus and chicken skins. Oh, it's World's chicken. I get what you're saying now what I was talking about. What do you know about?

You went to the bathroom with Gav. Oh, like you said precedent. This is Australia. Close Australia. What happened? What happened? We talked about it last month. Yes, we got to get Gav back.

Because I've legitimately made Gav. They are some creepy, creepy bathrooms over there in Australia. Like you go to the Australian rugby places. And like the bathroom, it's literally like, you have to like walk up onto like a cage. Yeah, and like the cage is surrounded by the cage. Like you walk, it's like a pool of pee. And you have to walk up on top of it,

and then there's a wall and you have to pee on the wall, and just pee everywhere. Rebound off the wall into the kitchen. So it's an American pool need for a giant opening of pee. Like, it just make it go, like I'm not sure what the philosophy is. All I heard was you went to an American bathroom just with a cage.

That's a different one. Well, in the Japanese airports. That's a trot. For those like 40 dude, you know what I mean? I know, I know a teacher. I'm a Ben Emo's. I'm sorry. Ben and every stadium, have you seen the film? It's a trough for there's like 40 do you know? Yeah, I know I know I know I know E-Mos I've seen the film where they like take the

The 40 pigs and kill them all in one second. What do you want? What are you watching? McDonald's tips. Is this a new is this a new time water commercial? This is a new time water to make it Babe 3 Oh baby Babe 3. Oh, Babe 3. We're going to really open this. Babe, please, what are you doing? We're going to spin Russia.

What are you doing? Spin Russia. How are we going to get the L.U.F. botlover? So Gap comes back. So next, today, so next podcast, I will talk to him. He was legitimately mad at me. For like two hours, I would be mad at him. I thought he would like add the word legitimate.

Like it's not legitimate. Have you ever known Gap Matt ever? You know, you've never seen Gap Matt I know Gavin Matt ever I kicked him in the but hole and he wasn't mad. He gets fake angry He does the frown was like oh you don't know then he walks off like that's Gavin being bad No shower will ever clean your dick again after that. I don't care what you do That's a man. Oh, Gamm has an STD. No, he even gets a I mean, that's a sense. Gamp has an STD. No, it didn't even get to have fun. It was fun. It was fun.

If you're going to get an STD, at least have fun. Get it. That's fun. Can one have fun getting it? He does not have this. Oh, no, no. Does this happen? I mean, you don't want to burn me if you get it to you.

Mixing it up your arms or numb. No, no, no. No, no. But when I was in Japan, they had, especially in the airport, we didn't talk about this, they had all the different kinds of toilets. So they had the Japanese toilet and the sprayers, which looks like a normal American toilet, with extra stuff added on. Then they had the foot, things with just a hole in the ground. Then they had the race car toilet and a thousand subscribers. I was going to describe it, the Japanese toilet, which is like a motorcycle.

Oh yeah, I know that one. That one's different. So in the bathroom you had to pick which kind of toilet you want to use. In the airport, I never saw anywhere else. There's like, you never saw them anywhere else? Well, when we went to the restroom like in my hotel, they just had the normal western toilet. They didn't have the race car toilet.

Can we go back to the bathroom? That's why I don't want to see the western car. I don't want to see the western car. I don't want to see the western car. But I went to this one restaurant when I was there in Japan where you go to the bathroom and the commute like where you wash your hands in the sink that's communal man and women then the stalls are all like their individual toilets no they're not gender separate so man and women

go into the same bathroom but stalls are like floor to ceiling wall with a completion closing door so it doesn't matter everyone goes to the same bathroom, but you have your own little private toilet space That's actually totally legal in the US. Yeah, that doesn't violate any codes But I had no problem with it, but you never see that no, I've also never seen a race car I'm gonna show you this yes, you're quick. Just work. We're going long. Oh really? This is a mom's home. You know, we got Lindsey right here. Lindsey, do we have stop? Never stop. We have a segment at the end of this podcast. I haven't told you yet.

Oh, right. Japanese Motorcycle Toylin. I don't know. What? After our PXI interviewed Justin from a robot entertainment. Wait a minute. And so that's coming up the cool one. That's not it.

Or it's a stop? Yeah, or it's a guy in here who can't. Oh, you love it. Oh, you love here, coming. So this is actually a motorcycle toylin. I do. I love you You and carry always on the way you look up motorcycle toilet and you actually found

There's a page of motorcycle toilets. It looks like that Mm-hmm, and you just sit on it like you put your leg on either side and just sit down on it I'm gonna be honest I'm disappointed. I was expecting an actual Like It's better than I had I can show you a picture of a motorcycle So I like I have the guy on the internet you want to picture You want to picture a motorcycle? I can't picture like you're in Japan You can get you a woman dressed like a motorcycle

You will be your target What you guys do in your engine? It's crazy That's the other version of it right there I feel like I saw those all the time at train stations This is where I would always see those. Did you all take the subway much? We took the train from the airport into Tokyo, which is like a two-hour endeavor. Yeah, I told you I was long. I was like make sure you take the bullet train. It's gonna take a long time. It sucks. Yeah. Yeah. Well, when I went I had no idea.

I thought oh yeah, it's just like an airport. It's like, what, 30 minutes? You're on that fucking train. Especially because you, you know, you got to navigate. So you did take those, right? You did not. We did take a train. But also it takes longer to get on a train because it's that feeling of like, I'm committing,

would you get on a train? It's like, if we get on the wrong one, we're in China somehow. Yeah, you know. So you do pull the trains everywhere? You took the train from the airport to Shenzhoku then You were staying there. That's like the biggest train station they have there. That is correct. That place is fucking massive Pretty nuts. Yeah, yeah, there's so many people that I walked out of there one time like during rush hour

And it was just like a mass of people I'm sure you encountered that What did you know that we can give you? Yeah, it's so you can't move. There's so many people You went to train station to train right in Tokyo. What do you know?. There's so many people see with the train train arriving Tokyo with a hotel No, we got off the train and the train station, but then had to get cab from the train station to the hotel Geez, okay, that was like another 15 minutes no one spoke English. No, we did okay. I mean we were really okay Was it magic? I should speak English or I should say nobody spoke English everyone we ran into spoke English And they were extraordinarily helpful everyone Close English. Yeah, it's a little disappointing Joel to be honest with you because I wanted to be kind of stuck not knowing the word Japanese But everyone was like I'll help you out here. Hey, what's going on? I just know

People should they go a little a little and then they spoke a lot. Yeah, yeah, we're fine. I didn't live you Just like incredible We went to we kind of toured around Shinjuku, which is this big like commercial district. We were only there 30 to hours. And we stayed in the hotel where they filmed loss and translation. So that was pretty cool.

I was thinking about that. You were telling us to go. Yeah, and it was weird because the level of service in that hotel was unlike anything I could imagine. Wow. For the front desk clerk, there was no front desk. It was, you just sat down on the table Kevin said it was like we were buying property together And then he got up he said okay, well, let's show you room and he walked us to our room

That's cool. And it's that if like you were walking down the hallway and ran into housekeeping They would stop and bow and not move until you were out of the hallway. That was a good man Yeah, it did every American was like, please please just don't pay so much attention to me. Yeah. Like I was in the gym, did you feel like you guys stuck out? I, maybe, I mean, but not even feel weird at all at any point in time. Well, like when Gavin had the camera and he was filming

the intersection of all the pedestrians, I felt like we were in people's way and I felt like that's the only time I felt like, oh, I'm a tourist, but we were just, we were just having fun. Gavin is a great guy to travel with because he doesn't care. He'll do whatever. He'll do whatever.

He does not give a shit. So here's the thing is honestly Joel, you're a little harder to travel with because you're very rigid. Hi maintenance. And like when you get your artillery, that's it. Like Gus was telling the story about how he went to Amsterdam. Well because I'm scarred from Beth from Stories. I don't blame you. I don't blame you. You'd be like why?

Why? I do have a history now. In the bathroom. Ambush would be horrible. You're the barbecue and bathroom ambush guy, but we went to New Zealand. We got Joel stayed in Auckland. Well, we went off and had some fun adventures in New Zealand. He's like, I'm happy here I'm doing my thing. Yeah, you're probably very much on your own. Well, there was gambling there and it was a city And you had people in it and you guys wanted to go look at cows or whatever We did we have cows in my zins. We did we didn't say a pony farm at one point so yeah

It was all Australian pony farm different so she's engaged Talk to the man next door. Yeah, why are you these rules and rings? A lot of rules rings so what is a promise ring? Well, yeah essentially this is just kind of a gift I was given after we decided to start dating. I was like, hey, you're every time she talks about it, too. We said, picture that. She's like, nothing but grins. I'm blushing. Yeah, well, it's a very beautiful ring. I was like, bitch, I like you and I was like, you know, bitch, I like you too. And here we are. Bitch dumpster. I feel like that's exactly how it went. That's the script.

I'm just going to be in a situation where my life arrived at a conversation with a female. And if she smiles at the end of it. Where she sees. And I said, I like you too. It's kind of weird. All right, well, let's wrap this up. So we're doing an interview with Justin from Robo.

Robo. Mm-hmm. Six, OK. And then we are doing also next week. Do you want to tease what we're doing next week? I'll just say we're doing another interview. I'll tease it. So we are doing also next week. We do want to kind of tease what we're doing next week I'll just say we're doing another New season so next week from the developer of a game that we've been talking about lately that we like a lot Yes, play that's cool

I really need one of those You the voices That's just me miles could give us any guest in the That's not that like that's just me miles could give us any guest in the Request so any of this portion of the podcast but keep listening but there is more Pond where are we gonna go to eat now? We have some Barbecues and give you a restaurant to go to in Austin like a good like going out and I go to eat You know

In our kicks I ate at the restaurant in the lobby of the W Okay, and they have a rib eye there that they tell these for two people but one person can eat it. What is that right now? And when you're done, they have this thing they call drunken donuts which is different donuts served with like liquor toppings. Oh, yes. Like melted caramel with liquor and melted chocolate with liquor. So, keep a steak for two and then eat drunken donuts at the W. I'm currently in the midst of trying to get permission to air this, but I actually bet Grace from Daily Grace and Hannah from my drunk kitchen,

that they wouldn't just shoot those. They gave us, we were there like really late one night, they just, the bartenders gave us drunken donuts, and I had them do a shot of the dessert dips. And they're pretty big. And it's a pretty goddamn funny video I'm in and they're funny shit, so hopefully I get permission to show that video All right, so I want to get fat and drunk. Yes, you do. Well, thanks for listening, but keep listening Hey, everyone. We have a special segment now. I have Justin here from robot entertainment

We just finished wrapping up our TX 2012 and Robot was kind enough to come down and be part of the show on the floor. And, you know, being such a big fan of the games you guys put out, I thought, I got to grab you before you leave town and get you on here. So we can chat a bit about the show and how it went for you. It was awesome. I got to say, like this is our first RTA while you've only done two, but this is the first time we came down here. And it's nice to have a local show. We got to drive down and the show of itself was a lot of fun. So you guys were here, you're from Dallas, right? You're from Dallas, right?

Yeah, Dallas, no. Dallas, yeah. So you drove down not too bad of a drive. So this is the first year, this is the first time we've had RTX, you know, in the Austin Convention Center. And so what was your experience? How was the flow for you guys and interacting with the people here? I really liked it. I mean that we weren't sure what to expect. You know, we've got with gone to other conventions

We kind of know we're getting but coming here we were like, well, let's go let's go see what this is like and the community here Was actually really awesome. I mean we had a lot of people You know because Ristratice community is largely born out of Halo We were a little we were showing PC and iOS stuff so we were like, well, our console people were going to react negatively and surprisingly everyone was really stoked to play on PC and they were bringing here to Academy to Steam. We had that playable here the first time and people were like, like, gushing over. I can't believe it's coming to Steam. This is great. So it was a really warm reception here. I mean, it was nice to interact with everybody.

Yeah, I guess we should tell everyone, like like what games you make and what you're showing off So robot, you know, they make of course orcs must die here Academy and orcs must die too Which is coming out in a few weeks right? Yeah, three weeks from today in fact July 30th Wow, it's crazy So so here Academy said it's coming to steam. So it's gonna be like I play here Academy like fucking crazy On my iPhone all the time. So when it's moving to steam, I haven't had to check it out yet. Is it going to be like, I guess you use the mouse to click and indicate where you want your your your your your your your guys and move them the way you would like a little if it was a board game or something on on on a PC, but yeah, it's a it works pretty

much exactly the same. We've done some UI changes basically, but it infects cross-platform playable. So the game is completely the same. You can take your matches wherever you go. So when you say it's cross-platform, does it mean you could play on the PC? You could play against iOS players and vice versa. Yeah, it's one giant community of players. So you've got your hero academy account you signed in with, either on the phone, iPad or on Steam.

And yeah, if you don't have an iOS device you can now play everybody over there or if you have both you can play some matches on your lunch on your PC and then pick up your iPhone and you get home and keep going so. That's awesome. I think everyone that I play with is probably really... I play with a lot of guys at the office and I think they're all probably really pissed off at me because I've been so busy with RTX planning and stuff. I don't think I've submitted a turn in that game in a week. Yeah, I'm the same way. I've got a mountain of games piled up. I think my notification right now RKX planning and stuff. I don't think I've submitted a turn in that game in a week. Yeah, I'm the same way. I've got a mountain of games piled up. I think my notification right now says 33 games waiting for my attention.

So I have to get back to it as soon as I'm back in the office. Yeah, I had to turn the notifications off. So I wouldn't feel guilty about it. It's not until I load the game like, oh, there's so many ways for me. I can't do it. I have to have them. Like when I check my phone, I need to know who's sending their turns back to me. It's like, I know I'm biased, but I'm completely addicted to it. So, I've played every day since it came out. It's a fun game. And I like that. It's the kind

of game you can play without having to spend any money if you don't want. And then, if you want to see, if you have different teams and different abilities, you can play. And typically, I feel like I'd like supporting those kinds of games and like I end I think I've bought I know I've bought every team that has come out for it. I think I you I Payed for some like color customization and avatars and everything it's like the kind of thing you like oh Yeah, it's only 99 cents. Yeah, sure I'll get that. Yeah, I mean it's you can play for free We the iOS version anyway is a free app it has ads in it

But it comes with a team that we work really hard to balance out with the rest of the team. So it's not like a, if you buy a paid team, you're going to win automatic. So you can play for free forever on iOS if you want. This team one will be a pay for download because we don't have ads in there. Right. So, but yeah, I mean, in fact, a huge chunk of massive chunk of our player base plays the free version, remains competitive. Yeah, the council is the free team. Yeah, they have a human fantasy character is basically. I get pissed off every time I play them because one of their abilities is the health potion heals

them much more than other teams. Yeah, and I believe you can also use health potions on downed characters. Yes, and you cannot do that as any other teams. That's there. Well, each team has their thing, and that's the council's the healing, and when you've played other teams, you play against the council,

you have to factor that in, because they can revive from quite a big distance. Even if the healers stop on the field, they draw all the potion and it's like, I forgot about that. That saved me many times in many, many battles, so I'm grateful for it. Yeah, I feel like any time a new team comes out, I'll always play that. Yeah, I've done that saved me many times in many, many battles, so I'm grateful for it. Yeah, I feel like any time a new team comes out, I'll always play that team exclusively like a ton just to learn it inside of you.

Yeah, and then once I know it like, okay, then I go back to random and I just cycle through whatever team I get. Yeah, that's, I play random all the time, but I get the, I have the luxury of playing the teams before they come out to get used to them, so. But yeah, no, it's, yeah, we got teams out, and then the Steam version's actually going to have the Team Fortress 2 team. Exclusive to that. So it's all nine Team Fortress 2 characters as a playable team in the game. And once you've unlocked it on Steam,

you can still play it on your iOS device. Oh, damn it. There are a lot of fun. All right, well, I guess I'll be picking that up. So in addition to Hero Academy, you're also showing off or it's supposed to die too, as well, right? Yes. That's also coming out here pretty quick. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Steam Hero Academy is August 8th, and Orcs must have died too, is July 30th. They're a week apart. So is that like, Killer, do you have like a huge team working on this stuff

or these guys? Surprisingly, we don't. I mean, our development team is, the Orcs 2 team is about the size of the first game, and the hero can't be team is five or six guys. I mean, yeah, it's a little surprising to me. A lot of these guys work together at Ensemble, so they've worked with each other for years. I'm new to the mix, and coming into it's been surprising to me how much they can get done and how quickly. So yeah, a lot of, I mean, this is interesting you mentioned that a lot of the robot team started originally from I don't know how to put it from the old

ensemble team ensemble yeah what's on the table was closed they went on and and made this and how long have you been with robot now? Two years two years wow I came in about a year after they opened. Where did you come from? Most recently before that I was at Microsoft I did I was up there doing community on Gears War for a while, then on Halo on the Halo Waypoint stuff and then came down. In fact, that's how I met you guys. It was a Halo Waypoint. And then now I'm down in Texas being very hot and running from tornadoes.

So, yeah, you all had some bad tornadoes recently. Yeah, every, it's every April that I've been here, three, three years in a row now, three April's in a row now I've been terrified by tornadoes that come rolling through it's horrible I don't want to get into I'm not gonna go into a huge tangent huge weather discussion on podcasts But it's weird to me how there's always tornadoes North of Austin and in the hill country and especially like that the Dallas area

But there's never tornadoes in Austin itself. Like just your lucky. The tornadoes in the suburbs to the north, like there's a suburb up here called Cedar Park, which is probably eight or nine miles from downtown Austin, and they'll get tornadoes, but never key here. Never in Austin. Well, we're lucky, like we're all north of the city of Dallas,

and it all starts south and comes up, and then it dissipates over the city. So we've lucked out every time, but every time I see the big red path on TV, it goes right over the studio and my house. And I'm just like, please stop, please stop, please stop. At least it doesn't get to like the black purple color. Like, yeah, I'm like, oh shit. Yeah, it's it's a new experience for someone from California to have to worry about tornadoes.

But long frequent listeners of the podcast will know that I'm obsessed with earthquakes. I've never been in one. I've always wanted to feel like not a major. I want to be in a huge one, but I'd want to feel a smaller one. Did you ever sit through any earthquakes? I mean, yeah, I lived in the Central Valley, so the big ones were all over on the coast, and we didn't get a ton of them. But like when the big 89 won in San Francisco hit, we felt that. I was three and a half hours from San Francisco where it was and we felt that I mean, it was probably a couple of times a year you get little ones through

there. You shake a little bit. Someone made an earthquake survival kit for me that hangs it. In my office, I wish we could have got you were recording at the convention center since we just wrapped the show. I wish we were at the studio so I could show you someone made me an earthquake survival kit that hangs on my wall and it's got like little individual bottles of Jack Dan and like little party stoppers. And they were celebrating it. That's awesome. It's in a glass case.

It's in case of earthquake. We're glass. Do you have all your furniture like nailed to the wall just in case? No. Just waiting for the Texas earthquake? I don't think it'll ever happen here. But every time I travel to the West Coast or somewhere where earthquakes happen, I'm like, oh, this is it.

I feel it. But it has yet to happen. Nice. So how long have you personally been working in the gaming industry? I've been, it's been about six years now. April was six years. So yeah, in fact, it was like almost exactly on my four-year anniversary that I started at robot.

So I started down at EA doing all the shooters at ELA, which was at the time just metal of honor. Then was there for a couple of years that went up to Microsoft? I think a lot of our listeners, you know, are people who aspire to join the video game industry and they want to know how. So how did you, if you don't like sharing, how did you get your start? Kind of accidentally, ironically, I'm a huge comic book nerd and I used to run a Superman website called bluetights.net. I like the sound of that. Yeah it was it

was a big Superman site that I ended up connecting with Warner Brothers and sort of becoming the official fan site for Superman Returns film and while covering all of that stuff, EA invited me down to the Tibberon studio where they were making the Superman Returns video game. And that's in Orlando. In Orlando, yeah. So I went down there to cover the development of the game for my site and I met with their online marketing manager at the time for that product, a guy named John Long and he's

a huge Superman, not two. And so like the first night we get to Orlando, we spent the entire night out at a bar, somewhere drinking and talking about Superman, and then on the way back, we ended up stuck in the airport together for about three hours, and I just talked to Zero off for literally three hours about community management and how I thought community websites should run and the differences between video games and film and whatnot. And that was it. I thought it was the end of the conversation and two days later he just called me up and he said hey Los Angeles needs a community manager for Medal of Honor. Are you interested and I think about three weeks later

I lived in LA and I was working in games. It was a very like random whirlwind kind of thing Oh, that's crazy, but yeah, I mean it's that's a weird question. How do you get in the games industry? Because I've heard a hundred different ways. Well, that's why I always ask. Yeah, as I feel like, you know, I'm lucky enough to kind of work in the industry as well. So I get to ask and I get to find out. I feel like other people, you know, who don't necessarily get those experiences,

they want to know. Well, we've got, I always bring it up in the conversation. Our design crew at Robot is like the most eclectic group of people. We have an ex, Navy, rescue swimmer, an ex-biologist, an ex-loyer, and an ex-rockstar who are our designers. Like, they didn't come from a game school or anything like that. They just came from all these random walks of life and loved games

and ended up getting in it on some both the time and here they are now. So it's like, everybody, I get the question a lot. Like what should I be doing to get in the games industry? It's like, I have no idea. That's yeah. There's a hundred different ways. Yeah, like a lot of people, you know, they, I feel like a lot, a common thing is like they'll start off as testers or, you know, they'll apply in a contract position and work

their way up. But I like hearing the stories about like the one you have where you were passionate about something unrelated to the game industry. You kind of somehow strangely got looped in. Yeah, I mean, like I'm a hardcore community guy. I've been running community sites for as long as I remember. So it was nice to come over to, you know, the film side of the world, of the entertainment world isn't, they're not big on that kind of stuff. But the video game side is huge on that. And so it was nice to come into an entertainment kind of industry that was really embracing community at the time. And so, and it won't still are. So yeah, that's really cool. So here, while we ended that out. So here at the

show, you guys were right up front near the front door, next to the Halo 4 booth, and there were some other exhibitors behind you as well. I don't know if you got a chance to see any of them. Did you get a chance to walk the floor? I did, actually. Yeah, it was kind of actually nice that it wasn't the big uber show, because I could take a few minutes

and go walk the floor and see everybody and say hi to people and check out all the other booths. I actually got to see quite a bit of this show. In fact, everything but the main stage in the back really. I got to see what was the most interesting thing you've felt you saw here at the show. Oh, man. Let's see.

Well, I don't know if you saw it. I mean, outside of our own games, probably Halo 4. So I'm like, I didn't want to play because I want to save myself for that when it's out and I want to put it in and I want to play and have my time with it. But I went over several times and watched it played and it looks beautiful It's awesome. It looks amazing. I don't know if you saw but there was another booth pretty close to you guys I know like right behind where you were was like

Was like a little aisle of booze. So it's kind of behind you and then to the right There was this other there was this company has this like're also from, they're from up in your head. They're from the motor. Yeah, yeah. That is. The zombie. They see there that set up. They had that was mobile. Yeah, they were rolling around with that TV. It was crazy. One of their guys was telling me about it. They had to rent like these special cell batteries. Then and a charger that would charge these massive batteries every 30 minutes or something. And yeah, they had a massive like TV. It was a 70-inch TV. Yeah, it was vertically oriented on a little cart with wheels and every time they rolled

by the booth I'm just like there's no way this could go wrong and it worked out fine for them but it was just crazy. They had like a zombie on there and whoever was doing the voice was skyped in I guess. I'm talking to people. It was a pretty crazy setup. I don't know. It was interesting. Yeah, yeah.

I like seeing those kinds of things. You know, when we, you know, were approached to show one of the things that was important to us was to find exhibitors and people who would come that would, like I don't want to entertain people, but that would give people the opportunity to get like a hands-on with something. Yeah. You know, in your case, you have, you know, games that aren't out yet, which is awesome. And in that case, it was a rolling zombie person to interact with.

It's a top-of-the-up. Very strange technology. But you know, you asked me what was cool. That was one of, that was something, I didn't know how much you guys were leaning into it. The internet meets gaming thing, but like Freddie Wong was walking around, and the 501st guys were all here.

I love the costume guys, by the way. So the 501st and 405th guys were really cool, but yeah, it was like seeing some of those kind of people walking around, I was like, whoa, this is not like, you usually don't get that at a gaming only show. Like I had the cool internet culture going on as well. I really liked that about it.

Yeah, when I was one of the set-up days, I think it was Friday, I had to make a delivery. We put all of our special guests at one hotel, so I had to go deliver some stuff over there. So I was delivering and dropping it off and I was coming back to the convention center and I was walking by registration and I overheard a woman checking in. She's like, yeah, I'm going to check in. Like, okay, what's your name? She's at center Hannah Hart. I'm like, oh shit, that's Hannah Hart from my drunk kitchen. Yeah, it's weird. It's an interesting mashup you guys have of the gaming and just like famous internet people. It's cool. We had that conversation have of the gaming and just like famous internet people.

It's cool. We had that conversation at the booth where like there's just people here who were just famous on the internet and that's like a thing that didn't exist 10 years ago. I mean you couldn't have that kind of person but you guys were, you started it. I'm not blaming you. Well when we started you know, we were seeing this kind of little over 9 years old now. You know it was before YouTube existed. Yeah. So it was, you know, if you wanted to do something,

it was like all these little islands everywhere. You know, you'd have to like, oh, oh, if I want to see this video, I go to this website. Yeah. This video go to that website. And now I feel like, you know, it's a lot of it's very focused and channeled over there. We're just good and bad, you know.

At least now there's one place to have, like, almost like a repository for video. But I feel like that also takes away from community, which is something you're big on. If you can't really foster, I feel it anyway, like you can't foster community on YouTube. You still need your own website and your own place to do all of that stuff.

Exactly. Yeah, and that's going on the professional side of it. That's something I look at all the time is like, how much do we lean into developing our own forums and website versus like using what Facebook has, for example? You know, you can do a lot there. It's already built in but your community's there instead of with you, you know, and it's a Yeah, I do advocate those much as possible if you if you can roll your own do it, you know, keep them in in the fold, right? But yeah, we struggled for a long time as well, you know with the same questions It's like oh, you know, we have you know a lot of people who'd like us on Facebook

But we have our own community side. Yeah, like are we in compa for a long time? I feel like we weren't sure if we were in competition with Facebook. Yeah Like how we should leverage it to help us and I think we're getting a lot better about that You know we have people who are dedicated to community and and dealing with those kinds of issues Yeah, before we didn't yeah that we have people who are dedicated to community and dealing with those kinds of issues that we have before we didn't. Yeah. It's really helped.

We've done a lot of growing in the past couple of years. For a long time, it was just six of us. And now there's, God, almost 40. I wonder how big you guys are now. It's 40? I think I think it's the biggest robot is. We're 49. Oh wow, crazy.

You guys should start making games. We do, it's funny. we do a lot of work with games and with fans of games, but I don't think we could ever make a game. I don't know. Penny Arcade did it. That's true. I have not played their new one yet. I have neither. I have that chance. Just because there's no Mac version yet. Like, I know that they're gonna make one, but once it comes out, I'll I'm sure I'll pick it up. Well, I know that they're going to make one, but once it comes out, I'm going to throw a pick it up. Yeah, I just, like, that's one of the things that's been the weirdest is as soon as I started working on games, I just didn't have time to play games anymore. Like, I play, and it's almost embarrassing to admit that I play less than, less than now that I think I ever have. Really?

Most of it's on actually my phone and my iPad because I just, it's like, I have five minutes, I want to play something real quick. And I play an asynchronous game or I'm obsessed with ventured towns right now. But so it's like, any more that's kind of all I'm doing and my iPad is a nice little, you know, I'm just been 30 quick minutes.

So that's it. So then I mean that kind of reads up an interesting question. Like how do you, what do you think is gonna happen to games? Cause it seems to me like, you know, people are really pushing for mobile stuff like iPhone. And you can, you know, asynchronous stuff seems to be really

popular now. Like do you think that that's going to eventually overtake like a traditional, what's considered a gaming experience? Or will it just cannibalize like the gaming mobile market as we know it now? I don't think it all, I mean, I don't think it'll overtake it. I think there's room for both. It just, we got to find what works best where, you know? I mean, I think, I think for my iPhone, I mean, I'm a snob about a lot of it. I think there's room for both. We've got to find what works best where. I think

for my iPhone, I'm a snob about a lot of it, but there's only really a handful of things on iPhone and iPad that I really like and I think are really leaning into the value of the experience and aren't just cheap, pull the port over. Shameless plug, but Hero Academy is one of those things that it was explicitly designed to be used on those kinds of devices originally and and it played to their strengths, but I don't know. I don't think I don't think it's gonna cannibalize it personally. It's I always go back to film, right? There's romantic comedies. There's action movies. There's horror movies and there's a place for all of those out there varying qualities and everything they all have their market. I think games will find that equally bram It's just we're on this crazy cycle right now of let's all do social games

Let's all do iOS games and and it'll all level out I think I think Personally, I think that a mobile gaming systems like the DS Yeah, I think they have a lot more to lose. Yeah, I agree with that Yeah, when I can do all of that and make phone calls and keep my calendars, I don't really, I mean, I don't own one right now. I don't know, portable gaming device aside from my iPhone. Yeah. When I actually had something interesting, when the 3DS came out, the day it came out, I went and I bought one. Yeah. I took it home. I was like, why did I buy that? I mean, I didn't even open it. I took it back to the store and returned it. Wow. Really? Yeah. Exactly. Wait, I was like, didn't even open it. I took it back to the story Returned. Wow really yeah, it's like wait a minute. What am I looking for to?

Yeah, I'll never mind. Yeah, that's been I mean, I don't know. It's it's neat I've played with it it shows and it's that I've seen some really interesting demos But I I just haven't I haven't got yes. I got to get it now, you know, I'm sure there'll be a killer rap or something that They'll come out for it. That's was where maybe I I may be. I need like 10 killer apps before I buy something. Again, shameful. I don't own a PS3, but the uncharted games make me want to own a PS3. There's a couple things like that, but I need a library before I really commit to it. I'm not going to do it for three or six games. I'm going to try to't know. The Intraternities series is a great, it's a great series of games.

I mean, I know tons of people with PS3s, I've seen it and stuff, and every time I see it, I'm like, I want to play so badly, but I'm not gonna buy a system for it. I don't know. Yeah. I'm that guy. No, I can totally understand.

I mean, it's a big investment. Yeah, well, and then the time thing, I heard a great article on Gama Sutra this morning about somebody, I don't great article on Gama Sutra this morning about somebody, I don't even remember who it was now, writing about how the gamers who started gaming early on the early systems are now grown up and they're married with jobs and kids and they don't have 40 hours to play Skyrim or something. The whole article was about a market that's not being met for movie-length games, you know, a really good narrative experience in a game that's two to three hours, but only costs like 20 bucks, like a DVD.

Interesting. And I'm a big proponent of that. I think that's a brilliant idea. I would do that. I would buy a three-hour solid, if it's solid, good gameplay throughout for three hours, I'd buy that for 20 bucks. But I'm that guy, I'm that target audience now. I love hanging out with my kids. I got two little ones and I just don't, I haven't even started Skyrim yet because I know, as soon as I'm in it, it's like, well, I got divorce papers on my table here, you know?

Go feed yourself kids. Exactly. It's like, whatever you can reach on the shelf, that's a cheer eating for dinner. Yeah. So I feel like there's another sign of that. I think I may have read an article similar that talks about, you know, gamers getting older and like the the rise of like father figures in

games and how there's a lot of games now that foster or that have feature main characters with children and a lot of it's about putting like the last of us. That looks fantastic. Yeah, it's kind of along those lines and you know, even to a lesser you can say like buy a shucker by a fuck too. Yeah, like your daddies and the little stuff. Absolutely. I mean yeah and now that I am a dad that stuff I gravitate towards that stuff. I find that more interesting you know but I'm biased again. So it's interesting to see the industry and games in general follow like that curve of like the as their fan base ages you know, to to those kinds of things. Well, I'm the guys that make them like it's interesting to me now to see we're getting now to the point where somebody said it last year, we're for the first time we we have

a viable second generation of game developers like the people who were making games in the 80s can have kids that are getting into game development now And this is the first time that's ever happened that that this industry has the next generation of developers And I think that's interesting and that it's gonna as we get to two and three generations It's gonna start changing how games are put together. It's truly next gen. It really is. Yes. Yes So what what's the next show that robots gonna be at? This is it. You said last big one for the year. Yeah. Did you hear that? Everyone's last big one. Yeah. We did we did PAX East and this and that was all we were doing. So that's in fact that's a big reason we wanted to come here.

Your timing was great with the show. It's right before we've got our two games coming out. And so we wanted to get out one last time and talk with actual gamers before we got the stuff out. Now it's just ship the games and support them through launch. And we're looking at ideas for DLC for it works must-e, too, and I'm gonna start working on that stuff as we wrap up the game. So the rest of the year is just supporting our products. Nice. Do you, I mean, I know you haven't made any further announcements. I think you all have more stuff down the road on the horizon. We're talking about stuff. Yeah. Yeah. We're very busy down there. Good. That's awesome to hear. And you don't have to answer if you can't. But like how much I know here Academy

like we've already mentioned coming out in steam in a couple of weeks. How like are you all looking at releasing the many more teams down the road as time goes on? We're going to get steam out and then we're going to take a look at that. The teams have been really good on iOS. We just announced that there's a Chinese version actually being developed of Hero Academy strictly for the Chinese market. They're going to be on their own servers and everything. The partner we're working with there has actually developed like a Kung Fu based team just for that market.

Interesting. We've had a lot of people asking to bring that over to the Western version. We're looking at those kinds of things to figure out, okay, what's the next right move for Hero Academy without overwhelming people with too many teams? Because it is, you know, if you're new now, you go in and there's four teams in there and there'll be five in a few more weeks. And we just want to make sure that we're finding the right balance with it, that we're not overwhelming people with stuff. And we do have a lot of hard core players who've made a lot of feature requests in the past months while we've been

developing the PC. And we want to get to some of those requests and stuff. So we're in a cycle now of finish up PC and then take a big picture look at what we're going to do with the Air Academy. Yeah, I never thought about it approaching it again as a new player. I think when I started playing it was just the council and the dark games. Yeah, yeah. Right at the beginning. Yeah, so it's a lot, you know, when you're like that, after, once you've been playing

a game and you're used to two teams and anytime a new team comes out, it's easy. It's not as much of a learning player. Yeah, exactly. But jumping in new and seeing a ton of teams might be too intimidating. I mean, it's nice and that you have some options. And we just added the single player challenges in. So if you don't own a team, you can now play with them and learn some of their mechanics, which is really helpful. But now, like a new player to the game now can come in and get the free council team. And originally, you buy the Dark Elves because that was the only other team. But now it can be, I've got the free council team and originally you buy the Dark Elves because that was the only other team but now it can be I've got the free council team and I've

only bought the tribe or the dwarves and so the mixups get a lot more interesting hour if they buy this team version they'll just have council and TF2 and so like I said we're taking a look at all the numbers of how people are playing and how many people are playing and just gonna figure out where to go from there. Yeah, so the team right now is to exist. It's council, dark elves, dwarves, the tribe, and team. And then team two will be coming out. Yeah, that's a good mix. Yeah, it really is. Especially, you know, once they all start mixing up, like,

any one team has different strategies against whoever you're playing. You know, I play dark elves differently when I'm playing against the council versus the tribe. Or well, the dwarves. What's your favorite team? strategies against whoever you're playing. You know, I played Dark Elves differently when I'm playing against the council versus the tribe. Or well the dwarves. What's your favorite team? Uh, that's rough. Right now, I think it's the tribe, because they've been out for a while

and they work really, really well together. Like if you combine units together, they're good in little teams, and most people haven't realized that yet. Even just by how long it's been out, a lot of casual players haven't realized it yet. So I like to go in with the tribe and do crazy moves and scare people. Frankly, I think they're probably my favorite as well right now. They're fun. They're a lot of fun. Then TF2 is coming.

They're amazing. I can't wait to see that. Yeah, it's cool. It's like the team so far I've had five units of peace. And the TF2 team has everyone. It has all nine units, so it's been a really interesting balancing task and trying to figure out how each different type of unit can bring something to the table that's different than the previous teams, but also doesn't completely screw the balance up. So when you're dealing with nine characters versus five, is there more overlap between roles? Of course, there's more utility amongst them. There's a little bit of overlap.

We haven't talked too much in detail about what all the units do yet, but they take a little bit of elements from multiple teams, and then we've gone about things like the weapon upgrades a little differently with the TF2 team. So we've been able to do some really interesting stuff that keeps all the characters true to who they are in TF2, but they play like hero academy characters still. That's going to be interesting trying to bring like these are characters that people are really familiar with since the TF2 has such a large passionate community.

So it's got to, you probably have to approach it very carefully to stay respectful to the characters and what people expect from, even though it's not a TF2 game, it's the characters that they own. And that was, we had that conversation over and over during tests. Like, you know what, I expect that the engineer can do this, or I expect that the sniper can shoot across the map. Like, that's my expectation, he's a sniper. And so we, and we've got a ton of TF2 fans in the studio already. So we're, there was a lot of familiarity there,

and we were able to just pound on those conversations and go, okay, what's it gonna take to make this character feel like he's doing exactly what you expect him to do? And I think we got it there. That's good. I'm gonna agree with you about the internet. You'll hear instant feedback.

Yes, we instant to mark while fast feedback comes there. Got it. Well, I'm really looking forward to that. I don't want to go too long. I know you've got to get out of here and head back up to the Dallas area. So I want to thank you for coming and sitting down with me. Thank you for having me. And I want to remind everyone, we've talked about in the podcast

before, if you do, if you do, if you do, you're not playing, you got to check out here Academy. Yes. You got to check out Orchman's Di2. They're coming out really soon. And thanks a lot for coming out. Just, oh, and if people want to find you on the internet, do you have like a Twitter handle or anything you want to plug?

Yeah, you can find me. I'm just six, okay. I'll spell it out. S-I-X, okay, A-Y. But robot ent, for robot entertainment, and then our games or Xmas. Die and hero Academy are both on Twitter as well. Great. Well, thanks a bunch of coming out, man. Thank you Describe the show to a newcomer in a more familiar way. Do you like apples? Example together in trepid hosts Characombs Characombs are free of Diaz of nothing to do with this podcast.

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