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That's HuluPlus dot com slash rooster teeth. That's huluplus.com slash rooster teeth. Hey, welcome to the Rooster Podcast. No thanks to JJ for calling us about 10 seconds early.
JJ, yeah, it's kind of, you're the intro to the first part was way better than
you know, people will not know how great it was. Yeah, I'm just
jaded. Can't we have some magic? I'm afraid that the monitors not working
We've had that before so when the director points to me I go director
Well, we did the director congratulations on the for a more mounted right should say floor manager
Who's who's directing right now is a Chris? Chris Chris? He's got Brandon out here. We got
He got Ben a August Ben Brandon Bernie. Hey, how you doing everybody?
He got Ben August Ben Brandon Bernie. Hey, how you doing everybody?
Cataclysm. Thank you. Hey, so let's hear this week because he's in England visiting his cats
So I'm the British person this week really yeah, you're gonna like bring a couple IQ points though Hopefully we'll see I'm thinking so I had to notice the difference are you at all worried Brandon that sitting here
Chris is in the seat directing that if he
does a better job than you that we will think you're a shitty director.
I've already sabotaged a show.
How?
I mean I can't tell.
Oh, you see that hurts.
Oh, sorry, lady.
No, I said everything up.
Everything is good to go.
I spent time before we make sure everything worked.
Before we went live, Brandon was sitting Chris down at his desk and getting him ready to direct the show.
And I don't know why I was just tracing a cable or something.
And Chris, I just hear Chris start screaming going, oh my God, there's a fucking toenail
on the desk.
Finger nail.
It was a fingernail.
Why don't you take a toenail?
Jesus.
Oh, I don't know because he overreacted.
He does it.
It's a fingernail.
Who was it in the old office?
There was someone who used to cut their fingernails into a desk drawer.
Jeff. Was it Jeff from Matt? It was Jeff. So gross. It was at the beauty to cut their fingernails into a desk drawer. Jeff. Was Jeff from that?
Jeff. So gross.
It was at the beauty office, right?
The apartment and it was a little thin drawer about that big and you'd open it up and
then it was tiny little fingernail trimmings and it was so fucking disgusting.
And apparently it was seen as totally normal. No big deal. They would leave like discarded
parts of your own human body. It was, it was, it was, it was, it was no shit.
It was years of fingernails.
It's gross. So I do something that my wife says is kind of gross. I want to get y'all's
a, you'll feedback on it. It is. It's gross. So sometimes I get like loose skin on my foot.
Yes, gross. Oh, I know, like peel it off. And my dog likes to eat it. So I just go,
oh my god. No. Why is it gross? You feed it to your dog?
It's he knew what was happening. He doesn't't understand I like to lick my feet. He likes how do you know he likes to like to eat?
I have to wear socks all the time
So if I don't he will go to town looking my fucking
Maybe he thinks that's just like his payment for having to get it live in your apartment
Maybe he thinks that's just like isn't he gonna get all your shingles whatever it is?
No, that's fine. No, I don't think I need your DNA. Dogs don't don't like to eat your DNA. No, what do you worry about if you get this DNA?
I don't think I'm gonna eat Gus all day.
I don't think I'm gonna eat Gus all day.
He's like cloning me.
Half Gus, half dog, gets made.
So here's why it's disgusting.
You pull the loose skin off of your feet.
Uh, right?
Is that gross? That's gross.
Would you eat it?
Why do you eat that? Why not?
It's gross.
Because it's gross. That's it. That's exact rationale.
It's a dog. A dog-rele That's exact right now a dog will eat shit
Do you like your dog eat shit? Absolutely not do you feed the dog your own shit? No, see that's gross
I gotta draw the line somewhere
The feet is fine. Why like what about that makes sense
Why do you have loose skin on your feet?
Dry feet and got like a little piece of skin just like right off. No
No, I think that might be a medical condition.
I don't remember what it's called, but it's not normal.
It's normal for you to sit around your house and have parts of your feet fall off.
Yeah.
I don't think I had that.
Like I've got a blister that made like, there's some loose skin.
Yeah, like the case that you know maybe I've got a medical problem.
But that's like an event.
How regular is this?
Like are we talking every week?
No.
Like once a month maybe? No, I mean that's still. What are you going to do? Like, are we talking every week? No.
Once a month, maybe?
I mean, that's still.
What are you going to do if Benjamin gets sick?
And you go to the vet.
And the vet's just kind of like, it's kind of weird.
There's human skin in his stomach.
It's because of the skin.
You know, anything about it.
No, would you admit it?
Would you say, yes, I let my dog eat my feet skin.
Yeah.
I give him the privilege.
Would they arrest you?
Isn't that animal cruelty?
No.
To feed yourself to them?
The dog is lucky. He's not eating some cheap shitty dog food. He's eating a hundred percent gust.
That's a great equality. So while we're on the subject of something that's obviously disgusting,
I hit a weird like line, etiquette line, that I'm not sure I go one way or the other and they both
seem equally disgusting. We were in Australia last week,
and we were doing a signing at PAX Australia.
And I'm a gum chur.
I chew gum a lot.
Like I can go through like a whole pack of gum
or altoids in a day.
And I ran a situation where I got it from the desk
because we were taking photos,
and there's this thing you do with gum
or like you stick it in the corner of your mouth.
But then I always feel like it's creeping its way
into the photo and I have like a white piece of gum
hanging out. So I got it from the table and I walked over But then I always feel like it's creeping its way into the photo and have like a white piece of gum hanging out.
So I got it from the table and I walked over
and I went to go throw away my gum.
Now really quickly, quick survey,
how do you throw away gum in a trash can?
Do you spit it in the trash can
or do you pick the gum out of your mouth
and throw it in the trash can?
What do you do?
Spit.
I would flick it in.
Like you physically take it out of your mouth
with your hand and then put it in the trash.
What do you do?
50-50.
But what is the right, what's the proper, I can't forget?
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget. I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget.
I can't forget. I can't forget. I can't forget. I picking it out but I couldn't pick it out because my hands were all handshakes. You know what? Oh boohoo, now you're not sick. I know right now what I'm saying
though is what is the but I don't know what the line is what is the proper etiquette.
There's spit out gum or do you pick it out? I feel like you don't want to introduce
more saliva to an event like that. It's like, it's just more bodily fluids going around and
that's not what you want in life. But I recognize the he's saying, it's grocer for you to put your hands in your own mouth,
but it seems like grocer at an outward level.
Like, it's a lot of it's spitting into the trash can,
which is dirty.
Not a nice sight to see though, if bendy spinning.
It's not a nice sight to see anyway.
Well, Ben, sure it ruined the experience
for everybody there.
They're like, oh, well since Ben is an expert,
obviously, on etiquette, let's say we're at an event
and Gus is feet fall off. Right. feed a new dog or does he throw away?
Don't you know the trash?
Just do I save them to take them home to my dog or can I just find a random dog at the event?
Would you put it in a plastic bag the correct answers you feed it to the random dog in a situation where Gus has leprosy
And there's a crowd of people around does he feed it to the dog or does he offered to like feed the other people that are you?
You got a hospital really
offered to like feed the other people that are using a hospital really. With a Benjamin again upset if another dog was eating your feet.
No he said dog he doesn't fucking know.
You never know.
Let's be serious here.
Do they?
I'm gonna look up here.
Edicott.
Edicott is spitting.
Edicott forget.
So Bernie just got back from Pax Australia and I was talking about this before the podcast
started. I have not been
on a live podcast monday night since july first for weeks
really yeah you'll get the one i missed you dude when you were on and i was sitting
here trying to wrangle these yeah that was a lot of chaos in the one time
that you know happen i missed you you're trying to wrangle with the opposite of
wrangle
you're like promoting chaos no i wasn't that's jol was over there reading the spots and all that stuff
it was horrific it was like it was a gavin barber and jol
it's a fucking night is everyone was it it's like it's a fucking marigold round
over there on the green screen
why like that i like putting more people on the
hot seat over there i feel like everyone has a thing they like about the
podcast like you like putting people on the green screen i do during the
patch brand new loves playing video game footage
or even when we do here and he likes overlaying video
and after yelling you to cut back to us,
like everyone has something they latch onto.
Me, I'm just latch onto me, my face.
Yeah, I get mad at you because you guys keep talking
about the video.
I'm like, I'll take it down, just stop talking.
Well, we have to keep talking about it
because you leave it on there.
No, you stop and then I'll stop.
Because then if I cut out,
I'll be able to talk about ever heard of this. See, this is, no, no, you stop and then I'll stop. Because then if I cut out, this is the
communication in between with with Gus's earpiece. I don't hear shit. You don't tell me anything.
Why do you wear the fucking earpiece thing? I hear other people saying stuff. I've never heard him say
that is what I should say. Who talks in that earpiece? I thought it was you. Normally Brandon,
he's never told me stop talking about the video and I'll cut away. But why do you guys need to,
why do you guys have communication through the fucking earpiece?
Why don't you just communicate we do so why are you talking now when we're on set?
You're talking to him about it during the production
And it's funny, but I know but you could talk I'm saying you could talk about it
I do I know at him all the time you know what it looks like you next time you're on set
I want you to have a mic that only goes in the gussies ear and that's it even when you're right here
I want you to be able to talk
When you said the high-patrick and there's make. Even when you're right here, I want you to be able to talk to you. When you said the hard Patrick,
and there's make it a more professional podcast,
right?
This is now like becoming the most amateur podcast discussing feedback.
Are you not wearing your ear?
This is a professional discussion, Ben.
How dare you?
I've got my earpiece.
And so Chris is talking to you, your Patrick's talk.
Today Chris is talking to it.
How is that working out for you?
How's that working out Chris?
I don't know.
He hasn't said anything.
Thanks 20 minutes.
We go.
You said it's good. He hasn't said anything. I don't even know what's a working. Thanks. 20 minutes. We go. We're going to cut
question.
31.
So we were out at PAX Australia and we had a group of people go
out to San Diego Comic Con last week. I think who's there?
Kathleen and Cara and Jason Miles.
PAX Australia is literally the same days as Comic Con, plus the fact that they're a day
ahead.
That's what I'm saying.
That's a good thing.
I wouldn't.
I don't know what they're going to do that again next year.
They said, from what I heard, they couldn't get another date with the city of Melbourne, but
I don't know.
It just seems very much like Robert Cudigo, fuck it.
We're going to put our con on the same day as you're a con.
Yeah.
The people who are going, who are attending Pax Australia,
are probably not attending San Diego Comic Con.
Only potential problems I could see is with exhibitors,
getting people to show up.
How many exhibitors do they expect to come from the US?
Like game exhibitors?
Well, it's different marketing budgets, you know.
A lot of the people that were there were like,
like Asia Pacific area.
Yeah.
Marketing like, I talked about it,
but World of Enks was there.
Instead of having like their World of Enks calm, domain on everything was World of Enks.
Not Asia on everything.
Not Asia.
Yeah, you didn't notice that like on all of their branding out on their stage.
No.
It was like, because it doesn't seem like a real domain to us.
Got Asia.
Yeah.
I didn't think there's a real thing.
Yeah.
Well, not a dot.
It's a dot, I'm a sensing.
Did they ever make the thing where you could make the dot anything? Remember that was like, yeah, it's a real thing. Yeah. What's that? Yeah, it's not everything. Well, no, it's not a dot, it's a dot, Amazon thing.
Did they ever make the thing where you could make the dot anything?
Eventually, yeah, it's still going.
That's still going to be a thing.
Like, dot Amazon was in application, but then they were like, because it's their actual
place, they're like, they've rejected it.
That's going to be, you can get it, isn't it?
That's going to be the worst thing in the world.
Yeah, I agree.
Once you start getting like, phishing emails that look like a sentence, dot, a word, like
word.word, you know, like, what is that? You should get it, word like word dot word you know like what is that right?
You guys got Gus Gus.
No.
No, I'm not buying.
You just started the trend.
No, someone's going to do it.
They're probably already trying to do it.
Well see like here's the thing is like if I want to check if a domain is registered, I
go to you know, www domainname.com and see if it's there.
So how would I check to see if some if if like a a
like an extension is that you're kind of like a red sharp website
that's what trouble i don't want to do that how's that anymore trouble in going
on another web that you just type in the name of the website that's a
correct
that website's don't exist or don't know but the domain's taken
that it is a good idea that it's not
incorrect idea it's not being used to it's a total correct idea because i
went to the website and there's nothing there so the person isn't using it and it can be bought or it's not even registered at all
Which is even rare these days. It's like 10 extra seconds to go to a different website and paste the URL
Right. I'm on the internet. 10 extra seconds
She's a fizzy man, but I've got what I'm looking for at that point 10 fucking seconds
Did they ever register the dot xxx extension for porn on your face? I think I'll reject it as well
That should not be rejected. I don't understand the argument i think they
can't be said that we don't want to encourage porn
and now like in england
porn filtering is going to be on by default in the country talk about that what
the hell is that yes we're the entirely country we're also going to have all
of our like uh... american tv
like
things blocked as well
especially everything's gonna be blocked.
And apparently social networking sites
will be blocked by default.
What is that?
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
And it's like, they're not gonna do it.
So seriously, what is left?
Basically the prime minister's homepage.
You can go to the BBC website.
You can watch a great documentary about these things.
We've gotta protect the children.
Was it not from my space and Facebook
that social networking beat out porn
for the most widely used, I guess Wikipedia too,
thing that people do in the internet?
Is that true?
Isn't it?
Uh-huh.
I don't remember.
But my sword effects are right.
I stayed in a Ferris for a humankind.
If we have all this technology invested
in porn delivery mechanism, and we're doing it for Facebook.
You know what I find weird though?
I find weird that no one I thought you were going to say.
No one's finding this strange that just whole website's being sensitive and
tiled for a whole country and no one's like, oh, that's fucking.
No one's freaking out about this.
You know, no, no, no, no, no one finds anything strange anymore.
I mean, we had this thing where it was revealed that the government is spying on
its citizens every fucking day.
Oh, that's not it. Every conversation that came up and what's citizens every fucking day, every conversation that came
up and what's our reaction is like, why did that guy tell us that?
They're all men jail, it's guy out of here.
And then nobody cares after a day or anything like that.
And it's like even like, you know, there's this big birth control bill in Texas, there's
always these censorship bills in the US for the internet like a syspa and things
like that.
And then it goes away and then they kind of like put it in a bill with a bridge attached
to it.
And then that's it.
I mean, then it goes through two weeks later when everybody's forgotten about it.
That's just the way it works now.
And look, I don't know how the hell they're going to censor porn for an entire country.
I don't know why they want to do it. According to this article, it says, British Prime Minister David Cameron,
do you know what was David Cameron, was your prime minister?
Now I know that.
It's speech on July 22 at a children's charity in London, where they go right there, guys,
children's charity.
Called for serious measures.
What are you talking about porn at a children's charity?
He called for serious measures aimed at protecting children from pornographic content on the internet and at cracking down on so-called extreme pornography
That's two different issues all those kids now are like wait, there's pornography on the internet
What listen? I have two kids. I love them to death. I don't understand why we make everything about kids
Why is every single thing about how?
Like you're lying. I'm not saying that unless I do care about kids I send out not alright. I mean a parent's watching you like yeah
Yeah, like a penalty jobs are it's an easy battle cry think of the children. Yeah, it's an easy thing to rally
It's like raise your own children like why should what I'm have access to in my
Quality of life be affected by your stupid kids. Well like if someone gets up and they say hey
You know you know not depending me if someone gets up there and they say like hey
We have to have these measures to block porn
because children are watching porn all the time
and we have to block it and such to them.
I would like to raise my hand go,
my kids aren't watching porn.
Why are your kids watching so much porn?
I'm a net, what are you doing?
You're like letting your kids watch porn 24 hours a day.
Yeah, why is it easier for the country to censor porn
than it is for the parent to just watch
their fucking kids online?
I don't know.
She gets the worst.
Like when South Park came on as like you can't do this kids are gonna watch it.
They're gonna emulate it.
Don't let your kids watch it.
Watch your show.
Like how hard is it?
And next to me the dumbest fucking thing about blocking something like the .xx extension
and pornography.
Yeah.
Because if you then if every all porn sites were under .xx x then you could block it in your house and make a decision in your house
That was like
Block any
Just shut it up. I think the consent is like like why would porn companies go to xxxx if they're gonna get well
Then you say they have to right to for adult stuff like adults like I mean you say
But as it is they have to cover their covers nice. You have to cover you know black
I'm gonna try when they're on sale in a public place
What did he say? Oh, yeah, what was it? He said?
You said you you say
It was the most flattering impression
I did to be fair I did do that yeah, but it's like I say same thing is anything else
It's like we have regulations we have ratings and I'm okay
With ratings on stuff. Yeah
As long as you know people have the individual choice of whether or not they want to do it like once you're an adult
You should be able to do pretty much whatever you want to now
Well, they talk about some extreme pornography. I'm sure there's some examples of that
Then maybe should be censored. You know what I mean where what I like?
Think go ahead what I like about dotxxx is the idea that you could just
maybe put a random noun or a verb and then put .xxx after
and then find something.
It's just an infinite number of possibilities.
You don't have to search for any of that.
So you're saying there's an infinite possibility of pull.
Open addiction, we don't put it in a word,
and I'm sure there's a website for it.
Yeah, well, you know, there's actually like,
there's actually, one time I worked with
a company that they were making filtering software for parents to use in their house for
kids.
And they showed how like, there's, there's words that you can type in that you can search
for, that a kid would search for that do lead to pornography.
The best example that was toys, if you look up toys on the internet, you got a 50-50
shot of what you're going to get, you know what I mean?
You could get a pornography site, you you get a toys for kids and that's
a word you can see kids looking up yeah but if you filter that content in like
Google you said restrict on this computer restrict all search results from
God X X domains that's a huge tool for parents to use so why wouldn't they want
that I totally agree who knows I think when you Google the TV station you and I
used to work at I think it's a transvestite website that comes up to
A tons of them T.S. TV that makes sense. Yeah, yeah
I have to look up the logo for the link down but after scroll through pages of
Transactual transvestite porn find the TSTV logo
Hmm, how's that if you again if you could filter dot xxx. I would find that logo much faster
I it's not but okay now look actually, you're getting into a gray area there,
because would you filter out a transsexual website as pornographic, just because it's a transsexual thing?
What I'm saying in that case is I would do it to help me do my job faster.
If I could do my search and exclude that domain, easy.
Well, what does Google Safe Search do? Is that only for images?
No, that's for everything. Yeah, that's for everything. No, what I'm saying is that operator? Easy. Well, what does Google safe search do? Is that only for images? No, that's for everything. Yeah, that's for everything. No, it's in that
operator as well. What I'm saying here with dot com, you're in the slippery slope
here of censorship. Is that if they made a dot xxx site, obviously,
everyone having hardcore penetrative sex, that would go on the dot xxx site.
How you do it? Right, but if someone, if someone had a just a transsexual lifestyle
home page, there are people who would say that has to go in pornography, but if someone, if someone had a just a transsexual lifestyle home page,
there are people who would say that has to go in pornography, but it doesn't because it's not
pornographic.
We did not show up in my search results by the way.
You got to straight up.
You got to straight up.
You got to straight up.
Clearly pornographic.
But it doesn't become a slippery slip.
Like there was some people like you had.
XXX.
I'm sure there are some people in the country who would say this is a like homosexual dating
site that has to go in the. XXx because I want to block it from my kids
And then that they would force that kind of stuff to go in there. That's why kids how will kids date? What's that?
I will kids date
Exactly how would they how would they find other people?
But you know what I'm saying there is that that's the problem when you start censoring stuff
The lines of what should be censored and what shouldn't be censored or what is or is not
Explicitly sexual content is not saying to everybody.
End up with a committee that has to decide and draw the rules up.
That's that's always existed.
And they're going to fight like fucking me.
And then it's like, oh, this should be included.
This shouldn't be included.
And you end up with chaos.
Either the bottom line is watch your kids, you know?
And it's really famous.
I don't know if it was a Supreme Court justice or a congressman.
The only definition they had for pornography was you know when you see it
like that slippery slope has been around forever just indifferent mediums
whether it was magazines or you know old
film or uh...
uh... but but that's not that's not everybody sees the same thing when they see it
if i go to support instance a gay dating site and i see two dudes kissing
on the front page
I'm like good on you. That's awesome. That's fantastic
There are people who would see that and say that they like my children can't be exposed to that
You know or something like that. I use my
So graphic that's less pornographic
They're up that's also they're assholes. That's not a pornographic thing
That's like a more of what they would call an ethical thing
But they're gonna there's people that are going to make the argument
that that should fall in the dot,
they're going to say, I know it when I see it,
I see that that should fall under the censorship line.
Because they're going to claim it's an immoral lifestyle.
Once you start that process.
That's a different dialogue.
Immoral lifestyle.
But don't you think it bundled in together all the time?
What I'm saying is that you see it that way.
Can't you see that other people don't see it that way?
No, I think people, those people have no problems just saying, no, we have a problem with that. It's uneth that other people don't see it that way? No, I think people those people have no problems just saying now
We have a problem with that. It's unethical. They don't bring pornography into it. They just say that's wrong
I told you to use those tools in order to make their point. They just say I don't like that
I think there's a lot of people in the world who use the term pornography to mean sexually offensive to me
I think that's what they use it for like they don't like And so they lumped stuff that is no right being listed as pornographic as being pornographic. It just means more And it's not political at all about government censorship. That's political. You were talking about and then like ethics
Joining us
That's our point
That's our point
So what do you think about the legislature's newest initiative in order to blah blah blah
You get him go with the example you know, it's a little bit policy
Get him going with the example, you know, it's a little bit of a policy. I'm even.
I have no idea.
What's a big thing right now that you think that you know in the political sphere?
What's one of the biggest things you know about?
Um, uh, health care?
Really?
What about it?
What about it?
It exists?
Um, do we want to get political?
Guys, tell me more about health care.
I read a...
No, I don't want to, I don't want to get any, I don't want to get any, I don't want to get any, too. You don't know not one I don't know what you know anything
I read an article about the GOP having a plan to block any further government
funding in order to try to get Obamacare defunded this fall what is the
GOP like a year yeah I don't know that's like oh you good man. It's the Republican party.
It's the Republican party.
It's the Republican party.
It's the Republican party.
It's the Republican party.
It's the Republican party.
There you go.
There you go.
It's the Republican party.
There you go.
It's the Republican party.
You don't know that?
Grand old.
No.
That is the thing.
That just goes a show.
Take away the lifestyle, sexual content, out of it.
Any time you have a thing, we determine what is needed or what is not needed.
There's always going to be people that are on one side of the line
the other side of the line and they don't even see the line is being in the same place. I mean, it's just it's it's a
content battle to find that equilibrium. I mean right now in Texas we're dealing with a massive nationwide
like focus on birth control, which were issues we thought we had kind of resolved 30 years ago. Three decades ago. Yeah, I mean it's long time. Yeah more than 30 years
Yeah, what was your weight?
I think it was 40. Yeah, 40 now Jesus. Yeah, I've lost track of what you're talking about. Oh shit one day. It's okay
Sorry, I'm so excited. I lost my mind. I'm so disappointed that Joel is not here today. He was here
Yeah, he was he's dead. I'm off. I did not scare him off. He said we have five people. I said yeah, he was I'm out of here
No, that is scaring off that is giving him permission to leave the room
You didn't fight for him either you didn't call after him. I was like Joel slowly
I was
I'm trying to drag someone back to the couch. He's trying to walk away. What would that look like guys?
I can't even imagine what Gus fighting for someone would be. Oh please.
Blah blah blah blah blah.
I just don't have a question for you that I'd be meaning to ask you and you've been away forever.
I told you I've been here before. Right. So, RTX, 2013, big thing. I was running around doing social media for it.
I was taking Instagrams of things. Don't use Instagram.
And then later that night, I loved the Twitter. You watched them, man. I loved the Twitter, but RTX and I'm Instagram it and then and then later that night I
Love it. We are checks and I'm Instagramming and then there's a tweet from Gus saying here our text vent
Please stop using Instagram love Gus and then there's more Instagram
Why do you not like Instagram so much because it doesn't load in app?
Yes, it does no it doesn't know it doesn't mean it doesn't load in app. So you say yes
It doesn't even know what the fuck I mean sweet ball it loads right in the Twitter. the end. Oh, the Twitter. Oh, because, um, I used Tweetbot, it doesn't load in the app. I gotta click it.
It doesn't, but you gotta push, gotta click it, because it's a thing.
No, no, no, no, you know what loading in-app means? You're a fucking developer.
That loading in-app means you don't have to fucking click it, it just loads.
No, well, also am I supposed to give me a different solution?
Gus, you can have presented an alternative solution.
But then there's no videos.
I'll see videos as well on Instagram.
Don't do videos.
Okay.
I have Instagram now for one reason.
I find the perfect, perfect use for Instagram.
Yes.
I think I've added two pictures in the year and a half
that I had my account.
I now just take Instagrams to send them to TitchGum.
That's the whole purpose that I use it for now.
I'm fucking Instagram.
Gus the other day couldn't get on civilization.
He was bitching about it on Twitter. So I just took an Instagram of me playing for now. I fucking hit Instagram. Gus the other day couldn't get on civilization.
He was bitching about it on Twitter.
So I just took an Instagram of me playing civilization.
That's all I do and I send it to him.
Apparently that civilization is so bad.
It just doesn't work on mountain lion.
What's Mac? Why are you fucking gaming on a Mac?
Because I bought it on steam and it's got the little fucking
like Mac logo showing that it works.
I used to play it final lion all the time.
I was like, I've great to him outland a few weeks ago. It's like I'm gonna play civ 5. Nope. Why do you install
him out lying? You held out this long. Because you didn't like it. You thought it was
detest it in order for Mavericks. Like groundwork to go to Fort for Mavericks.
What does that mean? The next OS 10.9. Oh, and you can completely lie in what the fuck
you were talking about. I thought we had an event coming up called Mavericks in which we were gonna have to play
SimFive as part of the event on max. That's right. Let's do it. I thought C Lion was a way better name.
It's Mavericks supposed to be like a play on max? No, it's like a place in California, I think. Yeah. Yeah.
Everything is gonna be California themed for the next ten or four years.
Instead of cats. There's not so many cats.
They, they, the reason we want to, we finally at Roosteristreet are probably going to upgrade to Mavericks because they fixed a longstanding network file share bug that we've been having to deal with for years.
Yeah, we're so snow leopard. We're like three years behind. Yeah, so finally, uh, why would you purposely stay three years behind those surely that's like, there's no compelations.
Just making you a way to.
No problem. Let me tell you a problem.
If they put out Final Cut X, I don't know anybody in the company that uses Final Cut X.
I was the only person that I liked immediately.
And you still use it?
Yeah.
I used it a few weeks ago.
A few weeks ago.
With all due respect, you're also one of the people who edits the least amount of video
in the company.
Yes, that is also true, but that's not relevant.
Yes, I know, but you do edit video.
You have a lot of side projects yourself.
Yeah. They do for short films and all that. Which would be very great. also true but that's not relevant. Yes, I know but you do edit video, you have a lot of side projects yourself.
Yeah, they do for short films and all that.
Which have been very great.
I loved your, the one that used the song from, what's it, the Wild Things?
What's the song?
That was years ago.
Okay, five, that was long time ago.
Back when we were in, aren't we in fire?
Wait, I can't, I can't blame it.
Yeah, it was okay.
I can't believe I know an arcade fire song.
I always see those guys like on, Senator, why are you in stuff?
I can't say you never know how you can say your old indie.
Yeah, Ben, I'm waiting for that. know how you can say you all Indy yeah yeah
God your street creds
One direction
I'm all Indy let me talk about Indy stuff
blah blah blah blah
That's why the Paul fucking talk about talking about something I don't know
No not yet I'm just looking at Twitter James Christ you want to fucking do the reads?
God damn can I fucking look at Twitter? No but I'm so happy like I'm like even my joke of like putting an Instagram up
To basically just annoy the shit out of Gus. I now feel like I have to keep that going and I really don't want to
That's all thing about social media now. I'm done
Why I feel about you guys in social media because you're so old you're like Go ahead and I'll folks and like oh new technology
Remember I mean like I just want to read my newspaper and do my crosswords in the morning
And that's it and you just so you hate every
That sounds one
You just the fuck off of our live stream podcast
Which is about the newest fucking thing you can do right now
That's why I feel about Tumblr I had to get people to explain
Yeah, I don't know where it's on the internet man
Wait, how to work it? I to you. Yeah, I don't know how to work it. I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it.
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I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it.
I don't know how to work it. I don't know how to work it. I don't know how to work it. I don't know how to work it. I don't know how to work it. I don't know how to work it. I'm not a teenager. You need to call me old, I'm gonna call you a fucking teenager. Ben, don't you feel like you have enough stuff
to do in your life to where you have a Facebook,
you have of Twitter account, Instagram, Vine,
now you just made a Vine five minutes ago.
I did do that.
Don't you have enough to,
and don't after a while don't you feel like keeping up
with all of that stuff prevents you from making other content?
Because you're just like feeding this,
so I want to make it.
You're just feeding all these machines.
Will you tell me you're using Final Cut X on the goddamn time apparently?
So you're using Instagram video over Vine?
Vine loads an app.
I'm fine with Vine.
Even though it's stupid and there's no reason to use it.
Man, I'm really afraid too.
It looks like Vine is going to catch on.
And it was a while there where it was like, it was, it was, it was, nobody was going
to do it.
Nobody was going to do it. And then like, one or two people made halfway, it was, it was, it was, nobody was gonna do it. Nobody was gonna do it.
And then like, one or two people made halfway decent vines and then all of a sudden,
I think they should, they should cut Will Sasso a big fat check.
Yeah.
They should.
I think they should talk about it.
Isn't it Will Sasso?
What's that?
The only thing, like, the only person you follow on Vine is Will Sasso essentially.
I don't think I follow him.
It can follow people.
Let's see.
Who should do that?
And so Gavin did it.
You can revine people.
Revine. What's the thing? No, not that's a word that people know and see my fucking
Now you should you should vineyard them. I mean
I want to make a vineyard of my favorite
Revine it for these what is that do when you rewind like retweet it is retweet?
Okay, we're tweeting to think so it's the same concept it sends it to your followers instead on what
In the who the fuck is on vine browsing. I've got followers on vine apparently I don't know what do you do on you go to the vine the vines? What do you do?
I'm just like to read it's just like everything else
You flip through it and they automatically play so it's just like you know you're flicking through life and shit
It's literally like everything else out there
They're going to my vine app right now. Right.
I made like,
I'm so in love with it.
I'm like, every single time I'm like, this is shit.
This is like the shittiest video.
Yeah, they're tried.
It's like, I guess there's charm
and making something shitty, but it's like, I can't do it.
There's no reason.
It's just, to me, it's more noise.
Yeah.
Have we ever talked about the podcast
and the horrible stats that are associated with YouTube?
The scariest one to me is that every single minute on YouTube a hundred hours of footage
Are uploaded. Yeah, so if you want to watch every single video on YouTube you fall four days behind every minute
We try to do that. That's frightening. That's just frighten as an enormous amount of content. Nobody's watching it
Nobody's watching the stuff. Is the thing though do people use YouTube for like personal things like if I want to do a
Personal video I would soon a Facebook it then put it on YouTube a thing though, do people use YouTube for like personal things? Like if I want to do a personal video, I would soon a Facebook it, then put it on YouTube.
Like I don't think people use YouTube, it's just like, you know, friend to friend stuff.
Right.
I think it's like when people want to make their own like shows, like their own Let's Plays
and stuff.
But even that, like, it's like a platform like that.
And I think that's like, you're right, that's the next step.
It's like originally it was, it's got you in the name.
But now I know it uses it.
No, there's, there's most of the videos or people just making videos of them doing stuff.
Like most videos are not let's plays, they're just people doing nothing.
I think for everyday life, the Instagram video and the
vines are looking to fill that void.
Oh, you're conceding.
Yeah, but that's stupid. No one cares about that.
No one cares about life.
No one cares about life.
No one cares about life.
No one cares about other people's lives.
It's already hard enough to read Facebook status updates.
I don't know what I have to fucking watch a video like 15 seconds. I'm committed to this. No.
15 seconds. What's your last indication of mine? Too much.
Six might be okay. Like does it take longer to load the video than watch the video? Yes.
Waste the time. Sometimes. Absolutely waste the time. Stupid. I might as well just watch that. No,
animated gifts take forever on the iPhone too. Anime, no, anime gives you life.
Anime gifts I like. If somebody who made an app that was anime gifts,
or social media that was 100% anime gifts,
I'm on board now.
I wish the iPhone loaded it faster. Why do gifts, anime gifts,
loads so fucking slowly on the iPhone?
You know, it's aggravating. No one's ever else is gonna experience this.
Do you know that the in-flight
Wi-Fi service on American Airlines?
Yes. Go, go. I think it's on United too, right? I don't know. It breaks anime to gifts. that the in-flight Wi-Fi service on American Airlines.
Go go.
I think it's on United, too, right?
I don't know.
It breaks animated gifts.
Like, it won't load them in.
It shows one frame.
It shows one frame and then it stops.
Yeah.
That's the ultimate first world problem.
I can't see animated gifts while I'm flying about the fly.
I'm so sorry.
It's a huge problem, man.
It's a huge thing.
Human talent team.
Do you know how many freaking flyer miles I just hit on the strip to Australia? How many? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha At 10 million he got a We're like 10 million was the number to get like some kind of silver card or five million. I thought he got winged
I love the silvic on the cobs. Yeah, wings
Thing wings thingy wings you pin in your shirt. Yeah, they give those to kids every time they get
I don't like not a special this one's probably go and I flew back from Australia
I got really lucky. I managed to use miles and I upgraded to business class on the flight back.
And I got to ride upstairs in a 747.
And for the first time ever, I saw the cockpit of the 747.
Yeah.
I never realized it's not down on the first floor.
It's upstairs.
I've never met in the way with the fuck it is.
No, but you're not seeing anything at the front of that plane.
You're just seeing like sky.
You don't even see the ground.
They land that plane without seeing the ground. They're just looking at die.
That's a West flight. That comes in fucking nose here first. Wow.
Although what was the the Asian one where?
Asjana. Did you hear what happened with that? The San Francisco television station.
Yeah. Oh, they're getting sued. They dropped the lawsuit.
Oh, okay. That was unbelievable. I can't believe that. It was some intern at the
NPSB who did that. And he was happy about it, right? He's an idiot. That guy is a fucking
idiot. That's how new five minutes of fame is. Oh, I'll do an anime. Yeah, but look, there's
a difference between five minutes of fame and literally making yourself unemployable for life.
I mean, this kid, okay, what do you do? First of all,
there was this name of the plane? Gus, what's the name of the airline?
Uh, Ajana.
Aj, that's not real, is it? Ajana?
Yeah, Ajana and with an A at the end. So what the intern did was he, as he was an intern
at the NTSB, I went, the local Fox affiliate called to verify the pilots, the pilots' names,
he made up fake names like something long Oh yeah, that's that we too low. Yeah, because the plane came in boom or something like that banged in
Al and then the box affiliate ran it as news because they got confirmation from the NTSB
But the internet just made the names up because I guess it was his last day. Yeah, the story was the plane kind of
Went nose first into the runway
First kill first. Yeah, that is an important job that that guy had.
And to do that, and then he posts about it,
like it's funny on Reddit, into the AMA.
Seriously, any employer from this point on,
I'm assuming if he worked at the NTSB,
he wants a job in either civil service or in aviation.
I'm assuming he's not going to be employable.
They're not going to employ that guy.
I mean, they might because you know, it
It's kind of prosper, but I would think that they search his name for two seconds. I'm like, what the fuck? No, we're not
hired. Oh, is that guy? No, fuck. Yeah. No, she's at Google's. What's that? They would do Google's on job interviews. You know, I was just
talking about this with some people I know in Australia through Ashley and apparently there it is not legal to they were saying this
I don't they might have been talking other assets sounded like they were but in there
It's not legal for an employer to look at your personal Facebook
Yeah, that sounds right and make decisions based on that the problem ask for your password
You can still see the public facing side. I mean, I think whether saying is the law was that they couldn't make I mean
Decisions based on that the same way that you can ask if someone's pregnant while you're interviewing them.
It's fine, bad etiquette to do the decision.
Let me tell you something,
in my experience, never ask somebody
if they're pregnant period.
There's never, yeah, I don't know what that will be.
No, nine times out of 10, you're getting punched,
or you're getting a really dirty look.
Is that a person there?
But no, I can say in the US,
people look at people's Facebooks all the time.
Yeah, that's creepy.
Yeah, they're social media profile.
Why is it creepy?
I mean, it's just putting information out there.
There's a plug-in I got for Gmail.
I forgot what it's called.
I'll have to look it up.
Alan told me about it, that it creates
like a side-painting your Gmail view.
So when you click on a message, it automatically looks
that person up on like LinkedIn, Facebook, and Twitter. It displays all their social media information shows a picture of them and
So you know who you're talking to
Yeah, I
Feel like that I just don't give a thought when I'm on to it like people say to me social media
I was at a conference and they said when you're on social media be professional, you know like employers look at it
And like as the guy was talking I just tweeted the word come like a few minutes ago Yeah, we'll never be able to get real jobs
Fuck fuck yourself, Brad
What the hell does that mean? No, but I would look at somebody I would look at somebody's face for real jobs profile
Yeah, according to Brandon once you get like a million bucks in the bank
They give you a lollipop isn't that the way rewards work on these major things?
They give you a really nice set of wings
Didn't they in the movie? I can see what I've real and a million you but he asked what they did in the movie words work on these major things. They give you a really nice set of wings. You can tell. They don't.
Didn't they in the movie?
I can see what happened.
And a million.
You, but he asked what they did in the movie.
I'm telling you what they did to get in the car.
I didn't ask once what they did.
I told you what they did.
We have none.
And you tried to correct me with myths.
You're like fucking reddit.
So nobody has the right piece of information
and tells you the right piece of information.
And some jackass is sitting there going, no, it's this,
no, it's this, no, it's this.
And then he blames it on me. And you asked ask me why i told you what they did in the movie
they gave the guy a god damn silver card and then what's his name to do with the big fucking
mush must-dash not sam shepard sam Elliott thank you jj jj jj is our film buff
comes out and shakes his hand it's like american airlines ambassador pilot okay
we'll know what the fuck happened in the movie let it go here's what happened in the movie. Let it go. Here's what happened
in real life. At a million miles, American gave me gold status for life, which means you can basically
upgrade to first class on a normal flight. But you know, you got to spend points. But at least,
you can't even, if you don't have gold status, you can't even get the upgrades. You're just stuck
with the seat you got. And then at two million miles they gave me
Platinum for life which is like board first all that other stuff which boarding first sounds really like
But you actually get overhead space. Yeah close to boarding first is awesome
Yeah, so it's and it's much better than standing like I never have to stand that big long line waiting to get on the plane
Yeah, it's always like in the first four or five people to get on when we first start traveling together
We both liked boarding at the last possible minute
Yeah, because you didn't want to sit on the plane any longer than necessary
But ever since they introduced fees for Czech baggage you know everyone carries on and now you got a fucking get on there to get your overhead bin space
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because everyone's like you like I just want to fly to San
Jose from Austin and then it should be like okay use your
flight on the days you request and I was like I don't know
eight a.m. that's kind of early you're like fucking
imagine booking your own travel what a pain in the ass that
is then booking it for other people and then they him and Ha and
they're just dicks it's a hard job it sucks so let me tell you why
gosh was bad at the job that sucks because when we first started traveling a
bad part about living in Austin is that there are not many direct flights from
awesome to other places we can go to LA we can New York Chicago but everywhere
else we got a pretty much connected Dallas so So a gust used to do for whatever reason
This story is a lie by the way
Because he was so inexperienced to travel
I was sitting there and I had like these three hour layovers or three and a half hour layovers in Dallas
I'm like what the fuck is with this? Why am I waiting three hours every time?
I finally asked Gus about it and I said Gus can you see if there's like shorter layovers?
He goes oh, there usually are shorter layovers
But I booked the longer layovers so that
we don't ever miss our flights are connecting
i can tell you why it's a lie right now with proof
use that i did it because i was an experienced traveler but the time we
started to keep i'd already been working at that other place where i've been
traveling for fucking years already so who did i have this conversation with
that nobody was it me i don't know who else you talk to in your day
it's just a fuck wasn't me i absolutely was you You can ask every other employee who I book travel for.
Everyone says that story is false and did not happen.
I remember because you were so fucking out of character for you.
I clearly remember.
Because I didn't fucking do it.
You did do it.
You were so fucking out of character.
You were so fucking out of character.
You were so fucking out of character.
You were so fucking out of character.
You were so fucking out of character.
You were so fucking out of character.
You were so fucking out of character.
You were so fucking out of character.
You were so fucking out of character.
You were so fucking out of character.
You were so fucking out of character. You were so fucking out of character. You were so fucking out of character. You were so fucking out of character. You were so fucking out of character. bullshit you want longer layovers bullshit the geese never book our travel Never no maybe a casual like one or two off trips, but I don't think let not as a regular thing. No. Yeah, the other problem
too is you married you remember how we both with we would appear to be when we wouldn't fly with certain people
I got stuck on a watch list a no fly watch list where I couldn't check in at the kiosk
Yeah, I got I got a fair dumb reason though is the homeland security thing and
It was basically what it was let's point it. This is really one of the dumb things about living post-9-11 America
When red versus blue took off the first season when we started selling DVDs
A bank account that we started for rucy-teeth had nothing in it and then all of a sudden we started selling DVDs
And it went up and homeland security had a job of like trying to identify all of a sudden we started selling DVDs and it went up and Homeland Security had this job of like trying to identify all of a sudden large growing accounts to figure
out like where the money was coming from.
So I had to meet with my accountant at Homeland Security and I had a show where every dollar
was coming from like we're selling, you know DVDs for $20 a pop and t-shirts.
I go I can't literally show where every single one of these transactions comes from.
It's not like that.
And because it was like a new business and internet business, I just kind of got flagged from
that discussion and I was on this no fly watch list for like three years.
Really weird problem to have.
You know, kind of one of those problems you want to have.
But anyway, what happened was anybody who flew with me ended up on the list as well.
And then they couldn't check in at the key out.
So nobody in the company would fly with me.
I'd like book my own tickets and go separately.
And the other one on your own tickets, huh?
The after
Further investors this is clearly after the first year because I got sick on the list like six months after the DVD came out
I was a year and a half book the first year you used to book travel before me now to go over at the fucking apartment in Buda
Which was year three? No, it's not true. You that is 100% true.
That is true.
You did that.
But we have the conversation in the apartment in Buda and you did do it.
I swear to God, I shouldn't swear to God.
The contradictions over that the story falls apart.
This is not a sudden falling apart.
It's because you were doing it.
I'm still apart.
I'm sorry.
Past tense.
Now, the important thing is your friends now.
Yeah, right.
That's all in the past.
It's behind this part.
Let's just move on with our lives.
Let me read this. Let me read this and we can move on.
The other thing is,
remember, nobody would fly with Jeff,
because Jeff went through a two-year period
where Jeff could not set foot on a plane
and the plane would take off on time.
Yeah, just that weird curse on him.
We got about that.
Yeah, and if you got on a flight with him,
you were delayed two hours.
Every single time.
We got about that one.
And I'd never been on a plane that was delayed until I flew with him.
And I think maybe since then, I've been on one or two flights and been delayed.
That's it.
Like sitting there on the fucking tarmac waiting forever.
Yeah.
Rook the curse.
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Yeah, I really love this stuff.
So using it, I saw, uh, I just got a new guy in top of it.
I have, I have yet to try it, but I want to try it.
I'm real, I'm a big nitty about, uh, any kind of pills or anything like that.
Have I ever explained to you why that is?
No.
Did someone spit in your pill?
Mm-hmm.
No, that's why I won't drink out of drinks.
But one of the first stories I remember as a kid like global news stories was the Tylenol thing. So I'm just kind of
iffy about like taking pills, but I'm going to try on it soon because other people
the company have been trying it now and they've been talking about it. So it's like I can't
get I feel like I can't get left out. There was a they yeah, I've I forgot to take
a new Australia. I really regret it. You know about oh you didn't take it with you. Yeah,
I've fucking forgot it. Yeah. Can you buy it down there? Yeah, they have an international store they ship everywhere
I think the I think the version they sell to Australia New Zealand is different somehow for me lake
It's called after bringing the source. You know what else I've rated you down there. Sorry Ben
We keep cutting off but I ran you down there
They don't have high food choice corn syrup and any other stuff in in Australia, which I like the lot
They also don't have state of decay or...
I'm sorry, I've read it.
They throw a four.
St. John, four got banned again.
I thought they cleared it up.
Nope, they got refused classification for the second time.
This weekend, it happened.
Wow.
Ben, what were you going to say?
Ben here.
So, on it does something with dreams, right?
It's what I understand.
Alpha brain.
Which is one of their products.
So, I've got a problem with my dreams lately.
So, I sat an alarm on my phone to wake up in the morning like most people do.
But in like the last few months, whenever my alarm goes off to wake me up, it doesn't wake me up.
It just integrates into my dream. And then I've been running around in my dream like I'm in a forest or some shit.
And I'm like, I was here to leaping like my rim benois. For God's sake, let me hear one of your dreams.
Please explain like from beginning to end like what's a
Ben dream? Why you in the forest running around? Well, I mean we were trying to
I know, so we're not going to classify the director's own direction, I don't know, so yeah and for some
I just have to like half an hour this marimba noise is going off and I start to break down in the dream
Like I can't get this noise to stop. I'm going I'm going crazy and make sure that's oh I'm sleeping to wake up
Why don't you record custom ring sounds or a custom alarm? Yeah, but what would I do? Oh?
I would bet one
I would
Right now for now, I'll do it. Please please please record it
right now for the please please
recorded did i would tell you the uh...
my aim
inbound app on a noise you know that makes a delete the loot when you get an
aim that you the aim client you should do that we all use a message now
but it used to make this inbound app on noise
and one day i decided i'll just have jason who placed occur
i had him actually just record the sound of the
uh... bully
and it drove fucking mad crazy
I love that sound
We were in the same office and I'd have conversation with people and you just hear Jason
constantly going
boolee, bee loot, boolee, boolee, boolee, boolee, boolee
And that was like, man we're going outside of your mad adjacent
And Jason, the fuck are you mad at me for? I'm not even in there
I got used to love that sound.
That reminds me of a Reddit thread where people were like,
what are you gonna miss 10 years from now from our decade and my generation?
And one of the top ones was the door closing sound in AIM.
Like I don't really like, because AIM was not a thing in England, no one gave a shit about AIM.
But yeah, that's such a iconic thing that no one's ever gonna understand.
I'm kinda weird.
Right.
It's gone.
And now we can just tap into our thoughts and talk directly to each other, I'm kinda weird. Right. It's gone. And now we can just like,
tap into our thoughts and talk directly to each other.
I don't know.
Future.
Future stuff.
There was a thread on a Reddit about creepy pasta.
Is that like cut and paste that are scary?
What is that?
Is that what that is?
Creepy pasta?
Anyway, it's like it was,
it was holding where people cut and paste stuff
into comments on like YouTube
or whatever.
And there was one in particular that I read that when they posted it freaked me out a little
bit.
And I'm going to see if I can find it on the stream for everyone to freak out about it.
Now I'm going to see if I can find it here.
You know what I'm going to say?
It's like when you look up stuff on Reddit, like obviously you tend to look up stuff
that you just saw and is now gone
like a day later or 12 hours later, it's like somehow it's drifted away.
But then when you look that stuff up on Reddit, you don't get that.
You get stuff that's lower rank, but only eight months ago.
I never search on Reddit.
I search Reddit via Google.
I search for what you want and then type space site colonreddit.com.
That works way better with most sites.
Yeah.
Reddit.com colon. Now site colonreddit dot com that works way better with most sites yeah yeah reddit dot com colon
no site colon reddit dot com
now i'm gonna do it my way
i'm gonna site work on the way
yeah that way you can do you can execute your
yeah i found it there is right there two days ago
yeah specific domain it's way better than
any sites built in certain
say we all learn little something when the podcast is live
i've been known to search for you things via google what is what the hell is your
app
i got this uh... from somebody in sydney um...
jordan polygon it's the sydney roosters it's a rugby club uh... in uh...
in sydney and she gave it to me is really cool
rugby is a tough sport i can never. I can never play any sport.
But rugby is definitely at the top of the list of sports
I could not play.
No, you can get.
There's like no position.
Maybe the ball.
I didn't even retire after the age of like,
then people retire at the age of like 25.
Yeah, it's like, it's, it's, it's not a sport
you've played too long.
And those guys who play rugby are genetically like different
than everybody else.
It's like, they're just massive
I think walls of musk what's one of the positions like your puller? I've no fucking clue. I've no clue
Would you watch like a under 125 pound rugby match?
Lightweight road just like small dude. No, it would be tough if you watch the old days
We used to play gaming college
Which was called pushball and it was all the different fraternities would play it in like
Intermural day and you know those big
six foot rainbow balls like there's six foot diameter so you can like like if you're my height
You can almost see over the top of it. They're a little bit bigger than six feet diameter
So it's a huge ball and they put it out in the middle of a football field and we could have
If I remember correctly, I think we'd have it out in the middle of a football field and we could have
Turn around correctly. I think we'd have 12 guys in the field at one time
Okay, and our goal was down there and their goal was down there and we'd line up on the opposite side try to push the ball to our goal
Okay, that that's 100% of the rules that was it
It was basically a 12-man fight with a huge fucking rainbow ball in the middle of it your Your job was like a Halo game type. Yeah, there was four people who would push on the ball.
Those were usually your biggest guys and they would push on it.
Then there were guys, so there's four guys you just are pushing and then the ball would
want to go up too.
So you'd have to try to push it down and push it forward.
Then there's other dudes who would come running, you would run up the backs of your guys
and go over the top of the ball to hit the other guys off the other side who are pushing in your direction.
Why is that not really around?
And you would literally go over the top like punching like this.
And then there are these guys, the position was called hookers, which sounds weird.
Interesting, go figure.
And their whole job was to run by a full speed around the back side of the ball and grab
people by the fucking neck and pull them off the ball so that you could get the ball moving.
And then the other people, the other people who were left on team were basically, their job
was just to run around and punch everybody
else who was trying to hit me.
It was horrible. It was horrible. It was really, it was one of the most brutal things that
ever involved with push ball. But it was still absolutely what it's called.
What do you play? Push ball. Yeah. And it was, it was only played one day a year and
it was a very violent competition. And that was the day. It was the day before your healthcare benefits lapsed.
Make sure everyone's covered.
Dude, we weren't college, it didn't matter.
Oh shit, there's lots of photos of this.
Push-ball.
Oh, I thought you were looking at your creepy pasta.
Oh, yeah, I can't find it.
Google's failing me.
I could show it to you, but it reminds me of the conversations that Gavin and I have had
about feeling like we're in a coma.
Right. Let me see here. I'm gonna see if I can find
this thing how do you know what coma is though creepy past like you you you counter
weird situations like this shouldn't be like like every day like it yeah in real life
too many quincidences happening oh see so that's a coma to you what's like your brain's
creating it like it's not real
uh... it is been reported that some victims of trauma during the act
uh... would retreat into a financial world from which they could not in
capitals wake up
in this kind of panic state that the victim lived in a world just like the
normal one
except they weren't traumatized in that world
the only way they realize they needed to
wake up was a note that they found in the financial world would tell them about
their condition and tell them to wake up
Even though even then it would often take months until they realized they were ready to discard the fantasy world and please wake up
That's an interesting thing like that fucks with people's like, you know Like this feeling that they're not living within their own reality. There was a future on my episode like that where Lila
Get stung by the space bee
She's in a coma and she keeps getting told to wake up by Friday because he's the he's actually awake in real life at her bedside
asking her to wake up. Oh I guess props to Futurama.
We dropped it at first. Speaking of television, the first homeland trailer came up today.
Is anyone in the homeland? I just see season one of homeland but I just couldn't get into it.
Yeah I don't know. I've been just all on like all of it in within space of a few days. I was like I've been wanting to go back and rewatch season one. It's watching That's what she said. She said everybody. Yeah, kind of.
I mean, she could say that.
I can't really. By the way, this reminded me this, because one of the teams that would come out and play was the rugby team would come out and play.
And so it was like, it was always a nightmare.
This just looks bizarre.
Yeah.
Is this like a legitimate like sport with people?
No.
No.
It's not like to shit up with each other.
It's not a usual thing.
This is just like board guys making up a game.
Oh.
Thank God they need Final Cut X to edit out the fucking boring part.
They would stabilize the shit out of that video.
JJ, you had like...
Let's talk to each other about the video.
That way we can cut away from it.
Alright.
Is that how it works?
That was a great video that was on the screen.
Okay.
But the discussion Gavin and I would have been was that
We had so many coincidences with one another that it seemed like we were fab
Like it got the book was only we're fabricating reality on the fly. I mean, I think with you and Gavin
Here's what I've told ahead is that you're from America. He's from England
YouTube came together when he was like 14. It's like fate
It's like the universe bringing the two of you together.
Underage guys,
in a series that's pretty dreamy the internet.
You're like a pro ton, he's like an electron.
I don't know how to just get together.
Listen, I just Gavin and Measierly,
like last time we were on the podcast,
we were talking about the social media thing
and Gavin said that he likes Facebook better than anything else.
I was like, no, he fucking uses,
I'm not Facebook stuff.
He thought Facebook was cool.
Yeah, it's a weirdest thing I've ever.
So like in the last week,
I actually went in posts and photos on Facebook and I actually have enjoyed using Facebook more than anything else
In fact, that's like where you're coming. What's that? I agree with that. I agree with that. I
I really believe it or not. I actually trust what Gavin says a lot. I listen to Gavin when he talks
The whole reason I really know that whole reason I wear weird socks is because of Gavin. What I have on today
I'm in my California. Don't you wear a different pair of socks for everyday of your life?
No, no, no, no, no, that's what you're doing.
That's what you're doing.
One day.
One day, that happened.
It's when you joined Facebook.
Like, when I got on, it was just people and colleges
and universities and only the people you know.
And then at the point in time now,
where your mom and dad are on it and your grandparents.
Do you set up your social media?
I mean, you set up it all on social media,
knowing that your parents follow you?
Well, I mean, I use custom privacy all the time. Custom privacy? And it's not just my parents. your grandparents. Do you send to me? Do is the best thing I block you all the time
People to do that honey thing to me. It's a one button
It's like I shouldn't bring it up. I shouldn't bring it up
It's really easy and fast to block people on Twitter. Oh, yeah
It's just one button click on the post and click block
So the weird thing I have when I sleep is I have apnea so a lot of times in my dreams
Like I'll be dreaming. I'll have a normal dream and then all of a sudden it's hard to breathe
And in my dream I'm struggling to breathe and it's like I can't get enough air and then I wake up and it's like I haven't taken a breath
So which do you find weirder that that happens or that your your feet is falling and flaking and falling apart?
I was weird. Yeah, you didn't even die. Do you think yesterday would feed you to the dog?
Which it cook me is the better question. to roll you out of the bed into the dish
What I mean fresh when I've been freshen up for the dog to eat you know straight away or how does that work?
That's how it fucking died
Oh, we got two dogs now. Yeah, are you happy?
Do you like the two dogs? Yeah, the dogs are awesome
Is it like having kids but not with all the money and hassle?
No, I don't know
People who say at it are completely up against it.
And he was like, you need to start thinking about having kids soon.
With who?
Hey, the.
Oh, from a two-minute.
And he was like, he's starting to think about having kids soon.
Does that have any kids?
He was 21.
He's being prompted for him.
He's like the same age as you, fuck that.
Wait, who needs to start thinking about having kids?
You or, you need to say?
You need to say like, you're 21.
Soon.
It was like, oh yeah, like, 25.
That's a good time. I was like
Number you got plenty time. That's like 20% more of your life. That's the fucking stupidest thing I've ever heard
Yeah, you got plenty of time. What's the age to have kids like what's what's a age?
Anyway fucking go out with a bank. I'm saying things. I want to preserve my 20s for having fun and locking about and fapping about
I don't want to be thinking about you know people being made that's just too much
Stuff to do I get having a lot of kids when you put them to work like on a farm, but now they just take away resources
It's expensive aren't they yeah, it's like
Want to go on a trip to Australia? Nope.
Got to take the fucking kid.
Oh, yes.
Got to worry about the kid.
Yeah.
It's like, yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like, yeah.
I don't even have a child to hear this.
You're like, dude, you have a kid.
You have a kid.
You have a kid.
You have a kid.
You have a kid.
You have a kid.
You have a kid.
You have a kid.
You have a kid.
You have a kid.
You have a kid.
You have a kid.
You have a kid.
You have a kid. You have a kid. You have'm gonna show it to that kid in 2050 a kid
Here's how you unplugged machine just grab all the
Or I'm just yank and it comes around in the wall and then you can feed him to the fucking dog
Good dog
The four driver dog
We use the third right? Yeah, the third would you name your kid Gustavo's a role of the fourth?
Absolutely you would you do, not continuing on the tradition.
If you did that, I would totally call your kid Quattro
or something like that.
I give him a nickname like that.
I'd have to do that.
I really like my name.
I think a lot of people, I think, aren't happy with the names.
I think my name is also.
I feel like if you have a crown on you and a robe,
Gustavo Sorolo, it sounds like a dictator.
You know his middle name?
You. Elliot. Elliot. Oh, yeah. And like a robe, Gustavo Sorola, it sounds like a dictator. You know his middle name? You?
Huh?
Ellie, it is.
It's the top of Mexico's name.
It's the top of Elim.
It's the top of Elim.
It's like 20% of people in Mexico are named Ellie.
You said you'd be for, I guess, one.
That's a lot of sense of fucking Ellie.
Ellie, is it Pedro?
You're gonna keep going?
You're gonna keep going?
You can probably guess it.
Mexico is in the stereotypical names, do we guys? I know. You might have I said you're gonna name go for it
Raul that's cool that's that's that's to be a test name good name I have options I'm open
It's cool. I don't know what's your middle name
Uh, you wish you should first name is your first name Brandon. It is my legal first name is Brandon what does that mean yeah what does that mean by fall by oh because like that's
the thing like you're asking like a lot of people's first name you could have
this answer yes my first name is brand I did feel legal in there yes that is
well I mean a lot of people would say my first name is you know whatever but I
mean reality yeah but it's like a man what is he's and I answered it's Brandon
legally yes we hope we're too need to people change that first name in America is a big thing. No, no, no, it's like oh
What's your middle name?
Fair hang it means culture and was my grandpa's not Elliot? No
Brandon
That would have been that would be good. That was slow well fair hang. Yeah, it means culture
It was like my grandfather's attempt for me to always carry out my culture, but it didn't work that's cool. It's
This is it like a joke. I'm a language. My name is Charles
Very problem very very British. Hey you excited about the British baby the little prince thing
Nah, I'm so sick. No. He's not gonna be anyone
Are you know it's gonna be the fucking king in a long time like I'm gonna be dead by the time he's king
Probably I got that you know, I gotta say I don't I don't think I'm gonna get sick of stuff anymore
I just don't pay attention to stuff nothing lasts long enough anymore. I get sick of like
I don't know the reason I got sick of the royal baby. Yeah was when we went down to Australia because of jet lag
I would wake up early so i turn on the news
and that's all they fucking talked about bull shit you constantly australia
there's a the shooting immigrants out of the water immigrants also was the
other part of the house really is for crazy dude last time i was down there
uh... or one of the first time to end down there
they were in the middle of debating whether or not when asian fishing boats
come down into australian waters
if they can sink them
like right away or have to get more warning men sink them. Why would they do that? And now they've totally
stepped it up or it's like oh there's immigrants coming. Yeah we're gonna sink them and they
think they sunk the boat. So they're gonna immerse people that want to come to that kind of
thing. Pretty much. They take them to a third island like New Guinea I think. They even are like
some other island and they like leave them there. That's how I hate it strange.
That's fucked up.
That's pretty fucked up.
I've done that.
That's pretty fucked up.
Well, we live in people.
Well, that's the world, the Australian,
can still live in.
Yeah, but the first world.
Speaking of, I gotta bring this up.
I did a cameo in Freddie Wong's video game
high school season two, which by the way,
you can check it out.
It's really awesome.
It's a great series that Freddie puts out. Freddie's a good friend of the company is like our two years
he's done he was keynote last year and was our mark one of our marquee speakers this year
yeah he showed the first time showing the trailer for video game high school season two
at rtx this year that kind of needs fast man so you got the trailer done at rtx actually
some of that footage we shot at rtx and then it just came out like this last week. So
The way Friday describes it was in turn the typed up all the credits and because I spell my name in dumb way And what people need to realize is my name is in a spelling. This is not the way Bernie is spelled
It's because I spell it like it's based on my last name
Which is awesome because it makes my name very searchable which is an important thing in
Today's modern times you say to create created personal brands, would you say?
I look, you know I hate that word.
But the other problem too is now since auto correct has been on the rise,
like the number of times that my misspelled name has been then spelled correctly,
quote unquote incorrectly, has been on the rise as well,
since auto correct has become the big thing.
And my name in the video game high school credits was spelled as Bernie Burns with an E. Bernie? And goddamn it I absolutely don't care about it. I've seen
it a thousand times spelled that way and I realized that is the actual current credit
I can even. You know, it looks wrong to me with an E. It's sort of weird. I've seen like
it with a U so much. You're like, burn. That's the word. Yeah. Say that word. Burn. And
then E. And I get just make sense. I get the name Bernie's not that common and a lot of
people who do encounter it in our audience I might be the only Bernie that
they know right until they see it spelled that way but it is actually my
name is misspelled but it's fucking brutal because everybody keeps pointing it
out like they just keep bringing like ceasing Freddy on it like essentially
making him feel bad about the fact that he put my name in the credits are Are you saying that people on Twitter CC people on Twitter? Yes. Yeah, that's an old that no one says
they say like a wall. This felt the name. What a CC stand for? Carbon copy. Oh, what is BCC stand for?
Blind carbon copy. Oh, I know my shit. What are those? What is the etymology of those words?
Back in the olden days when they would have to physically copy
those.
I'm proud of you.
Finally, it took like six years.
I finally got a gust of approval.
It's an old man thing.
True.
I'm proud of you.
You have to use carbon paper to make copies.
See?
Carbon copy.
I'm getting called out for calling Australia fucking crazy.
I'm sorry.
We actually like Australia.
We love Australia. We love us a lot
But some people got upset that we made fun of the UK in one of our interviews down there
What did you say about them? I think we said fuck the UK. I just alright. Yeah, they want to block my poem
They can put themselves
Is that gonna affect you much? I mean one they can turn it on I mean it's it's off by default in the filter
But like the things that they're blocking entirely
and centering entirely is like American orange.
And I wanna watch American TV.
That's gonna annoy me.
I'm gonna, you know, figure that out.
But, you know, so-
The pornography block is off by default?
No, it's on by default.
It's like, there's a settings panel
that you can like say, I wanna be able to get poor
on my account, that kind of thing.
Oh, is it like an ISP?
Yeah, by the ISP, yeah.
Oh.
And the ISPs are legally obligated to do that.
Google keeps safes are drawn by default.
You have to turn it off, right?
Yeah, you have to sign in.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I guess it's kind of like safe search
just on a much broader scale.
Well, it's kind of like an institution.
It's not just a random app.
Yeah.
Yeah, I just didn't understand how they were going to do the blocking and how the end
customer will seem to be able to control it, but I've seen some of the screenshots of it and like some of them make sense like
Suicide and self harm is a category that you can turn off by default and that's you know, they're all off by default
That's that makes sense and there's things like like
web discussions
Is off by default and I'm like I guess if you don't want to talk to Pete.
If you don't want a kid to participate in the discussion,
like you're a little post-stuff.
What do you mean by reading the comments, Gus?
But reading comments?
There's a new movement to not read the comments.
There's a new movement?
What do you mean?
Well, people I talk about don't read the comments.
I guess there's a Twitter account called don't read the comments.
Oh.
And like it tweets like once a day saying, you know,
you're watching or reading an article, it's really interesting.
You're going to read the comments, but don't forget, don't read the comments.
It's all like that.
Most sites, I don't read comments.
I feel like there's almost never any decent insight provided by Comments.
Do you read comments on the material that we produce?
On our website, I will.
On YouTube and other sites, no, absolutely.
You can't possibly read all the comments.
There's a ton.
I'll read a lot of them.
Yeah.
Typically, if you're on Reddit and you read the top ones,
it's like someone debunks something immediately.
Like, a headline is really extravagant, you know,
exaggerating.
And then the talkum is like, well, they've got their facts
wrong. It's actually blah, blah.
And they cite stuff.
So that works.
When I posted our T-Life on Saturday,
I had no idea what video they were watching.
Because the first hour was just
Random random and it was it was like a single thread like everybody was talking about the same thing
But it had nothing to do with the video. It was probably just get off in a tight box
No, they're real people they were just arguing with each other
I find you it's like if you when a first comment goes by it's like especially on YouTube
Somebody can make a comment and that can that the responses to that because YouTube comments just fly by
Yeah, at least at least on our video. We get a lot of traffic on our channel and
The replies to a comment will then keep that thing going
Yeah, and that can like bob it up and down for like an hour
Yeah, Dominic's competition people are still like arguing about the video that we did like three years ago about American history
I love it sometimes is like they're still arguing about Let it go. did like three years ago about American history. I love it. I go on it sometimes, it's like, they're still arguing about things.
Let it go.
It's new to them though.
Yeah.
Really?
Some like that's the reason.
Yeah, it's like you've been watching the promotion for a long time.
Like, hit the scene.
But they may find it in a related video or something.
Is that video up to Ben?
Well, I don't know.
They've usually like you can't.
Yeah, I don't know.
No, I mean like fucking time wise.
I don't see the changes all the time. Has he been in a way? He's asking me a question, I don't know. What mean like you can? Yeah, let me know. No, I mean like fucking time wise.
I don't see the changes all the time.
Because he gave me any weight.
I was asking me a question, I don't know.
What's it called?
England versus US?
America versus England.
US, Russia, T.
That's a video that Ben and I did where I quizzed him about US history.
And that's the July video series you're going to hear.
I'm looking forward to more of those.
I think it would be good if there were more of those.
Whether it might be, who knows? we talked about it before we made some more
we're going to post those soon yes there's one going up very soon
yeah the arguing here eight hours ago they're arguing the battle of britain
i'm using it i don't know what five nine oh that's good
here let me uh... let me read this i want to talk more about that
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You've got a ton of great TV shows.
You don't get that in the UK, but we can enjoy it.
I, I, a few days ago, literally, I think I Instagrammed it.
I went on Hulu plus in my hotel and I realized they've got every you gear episode ever.
And I was like, incredible.
This is my next few months or they've got a ton of stuff. I only have a few things here, but they've got every Yu-Gi-O episode ever and I was like incredible this is my next few months or I mean they've got a ton of stuff I
only have a few things here but they've got down Abby do you watch down Abby what
how is that what you got down down down to an Abby down to an Abby he said
I put it like Denabby down Abby down oh shit is that the name of the show yeah
you know up until this very moment time I thought it was downtown Abby I did
that's all good down down down how's it during? Yeah, no, I didn't know that
Absolutely not like that. Yeah, they got a ton of stuff. So check it out. Apparently they have every you deal episode
They do do that. So yeah, look at that. How many how many you deal episodes are there? There's like 200
Oh, it's crazy
You know, I would just did a video with E from Xbox live
I did one of those game time videos where we play a game like a kind of a slower game
or mainly it's got to be a game like on one screen so there's not a lot of flipping back and forth.
And E for Xbox Live talked about how they deliver content. I had to edit that conversation but he actually talked for a little bit about
specifically how they deliver
Netflix and he talked about Hulu content as well about how all that stuff is delivered over Xbox Live. Yeah, and talked talks about Hulu content as well, but how all that stuff is delivered over Xbox Live.
Yeah. And talked about for Hulu how they have a big database of all the things that you basically have purchased,
if you have that, and how it determines how those files are shared across these massive content delivery networks.
I don't think you can speak very specifically to how Hulu does it. I'm not sure that's public information if you knew
But it was really interesting the way like these like like watching movie or let's say TV show like
What's something that's on Hulu reversible for instance?
It sits on an origin server
somewhere like a massive server and
That's where that file lives and then when people download it then it like propagates out across the network with CDN. CDN, there you go. And so
it's like that's not even my file now, it's my chunks, like the chunks of the file
go and it's like it just delivers this content everywhere and it's just
crazy the way that stuff works. And it sucks for people who are outside the
country that don't have it. Do you have anything the equivalent of who
would have in a different country? I mean we have, for all the broadcasters we have
like BBC, I play a pretty like the main everything like you can watch anything online
I don't have TV I've not had TV for a long time I just watch it all through my computer legally for British things
America things that don't watch me go but British things yeah
Yeah there's a there's entire shows that I have watched on Hulu. Like, I never watched 30 Rock on TV ever.
I watched 100% of 30 Rock on Hulu.
I watched, I think I watched the first couple seasons
like that, and then you got to the point
where I watched a lot of stuff like that,
where it's like, I'll just wait till the next day
and watch it on demand.
You know, and it's kind of a pain in the ass,
a little bit when content expires,
like these deals they have expire in the time,
it goes away, but as an offshoot of that, then the service also kind of renew deals they have expired and then something goes away. But as an
offshoot of that, then the service also kind of renews itself every now and then. Where
it's like, I feel like, I've watched all the 30 Rock, let me find something else to watch.
Well, I don't want to watch wipe out. And then I come back like in a week and it's only
all new stuff on there. And I can go back and watch it all.
But here's the thing about being on so many social networks, you're talking about, I don't
have time to watch TV. Like, I'll watch the TV that I watch, but I don't say, oh, I'm going to watch X that I've not seen for.
I don't just like channel surf. Channel surf is not a thing that I do. I will watch a show
that I know and that I subscribe to, essentially. That's it.
What about a challenge? What about a challenge that you're friends with?
For honest social media. That really happens. They did that with
Game of Thrones. Everyone in England loses their mind of a Game of Thrones. was like I watched like six episodes. How the fuck do they watch it?
They are they all turn to really in England is crazy big because in England the actual channel is like a paid for like it's a premium
That's what is in you it's on HBO here, which is a premium channel
Okay, but yeah everyone and it's so everyone like people that I thought my friends
But I didn't think would be tech savvy turns out they are.
But what is the channel which you can watch Game of Thrones in Skywalk?
Sky Atlantic. It's not even the main one. It's like a really weird off-shoe.
It's really bizarre. Well, they probably play a lot of money for the rights to
Game of Thrones and they're probably putting it on their channel in order to promote
their channel. Like, they did it with Glee, where Glee was on the rest,
like the main broadcast of this three to air,
you know, everyone loved Glee.
And then it went to this, like, kind of commercial private one,
like they bought the rights,
because they just bid so much money for it.
And then they know I'm watching it.
Yeah.
So I'm going to pay for that channel.
You know, forget, you watch Glee,
I forget sometimes it's been as a young child.
How's the kid?
That's true, it's difficult to know.
Are you upset about the dudes who died on Glee?
How are you holding up there?
How am I holding up?
I've not watched Glee for like three years.
Don't do that, Brandon.
I mean, he's a, I mean, let's not offend people.
He's a child.
I'll see you podcast.
I mean, he was a drug addict.
Is that a deal?
Yeah.
Allegedly, or was he like confirmed a drug addict?
No, he sent him to rehab.
He was doing rehab.
And then he just kind of had too much.
Young guy, yeah.
To shitty situation, I mean, it's hard to feel super, super bad.
I mean, he did it to himself, but it's still shitty.
It sucks.
Yeah.
No, especially in a way like he's portraying a young person that, I mean, I don't really know,
but I think for if you were like a teenager now, and Glee was your thing, I don't know if he glies a thing for anyone.
But if like someone who portrays like a teenage in high school
Then immediately dies from like being this crazy drug addict adult and it's like well
He's a good guy in the show. Yeah, I think that's the issue
He's the good guy in the show and I think a lot of people do look up. Yeah, that's a show city situation
Well listen, I mean I have a I have a big family and
It's it's easy to say stuff like, you know, all I did it to myself
or whatever, but when you have big enough family and you have people like who are very
genetically close to you and you see them like struggle with that kind of stuff, it's like,
it just, that stuff gets hold of some people, you know what I mean?
It was a nice guy, like you could, like, in the, like, you see his tweets, people were
showing like stuff he's doing days before he died and like, he was a nice guy, like, he's
not like, he was, you know, some kind of bum on the street, like, he was, you know, a really nice bloke and it just like turned out they have this thing that,
you know, I think that happens to a lot of people is that it's just something that they
aren't, they get addicted to they can't control it. Yeah, you couldn't get out of it.
And that's one of the things that bad thing. When you do 23 in me, it tells you if you're more,
like more, uh,
something like, you're more likely to get hooked on heroin. You're more prone to it. Yeah.
Like, how did that work though? Like, what is the thing that makes you likely to get hooked on heroin. You're more prone to it. No, no, no, no.
How did that work, though?
What is the thing that makes you likely to get addicted to a thing?
Because I feel like I could hope, I'm gonna say that.
I could try a thing knowing that I'm not gonna let myself get attached to it.
This genetic marker, maybe you can't control it.
You don't know.
I mean, honestly, Ben, you don't know any of that.
I think you could try something and it just grabs a hold of you.
I mean, just you don't know.
Imagine you need food to survive. Like, you'll't know Imagine like you need food to survive like you'll eat food
Imagine you can survive, okay, you then I survive and so you'll eat because you're like I will die if I don't have food
It's the same things psychologically for these people. That's why they continue to do drugs
Even if they want to get out of it, but it's a known fact that you need food to survive
Reservant things it's like that, but you're assuming that it's completely rational
I would assume that mind I would have the Integr of mine to know that I don't need this.
It's just a thing.
I try to stop buying my nails.
The most common thing to look at is alcohol.
Alcohol gets hold of some people where they have to have
a drink or multiple drinks every day.
Like, I'll have a party in my house, a beer.
I now buy, I shouldn't tell you all this.
I buy beer that doesn't have paper labels
So that it doesn't like rot the labels off and I can just use the beer again at the next party for whatever that is
Let me tell you a story oh
Beere at Bernie parties
I'm excited to a party at Bernie's house and he had a cooler full of beer bottles here like this one and
I originally cooler pulled it out and I popped the top off and it was a clear bottle like beer, bottles, beer, like this one. And I reached into the cooler, pulled it out
and I popped the top off and it was a clear bottle,
like I don't know what it was,
but I looked at it and there was like a ring of rust
all around the lip.
And I was like, oh, that's kind of gross.
I put it aside and I pulled another one out of the cooler.
I opened it and it also had the ring of rust.
But when DeBurner was like,
how long have he been sitting in the cooler?
And he said, I don't know, two years.
Oh, not two years. So I didn't have been sitting there sitting in the cooler and we said I don't know two years Oh Not two years
In water to the point where they had rusted up for years
Are you more embarrassed that I would have a party and I wouldn't want to see you for another two fucking years
I wouldn't invite you back over I can't drink enough to drink all the beer you're Bob two years ago apparently
No, I will I will like I'll have a party and I'll buy booze to the party liquor in beer
Is that is it bathing or are you a spirit person? No like I'll buy bottlesze to the party liquor in beer is that is it bear thing or are you a spirit person? No, like I'll buy bottles of booze like liquor and I'll go to my next party and I'll go get the bottles of liquor
Look at them and they're like literally covered in dust when I met my
I just don't ever think to drink. It's just not a thing that I do
I mean like an American part is because I still don't get it
I've been trying to figure out for like six years do people like
Like beer seems so popular here. I don't feel like beers are very big in England like we just
Spirits all the time maybe
Cultural thing yeah, beer's a pretty big part of I feel like
Beer big thing isn't there like a big pub culture with like different beers
Yeah, but like you're a pint would go to really to pubs. You know chicken
Pines are we trying to the dead they went to the fucking Winchester?
No, I'm saying a pint. There's a whole movie coming out this week. Yeah, I want to see that
But I'm saying like at university like you wouldn't
You wouldn't go to basically we have a different system to you where we have pre-drinks when we drink for a few hours and then we go clubbing
And like totally different system
There's people in the UK where they're going what the fuck is he talking about?
I'm just saying I'm just saying you and your friends don't drink beer you and your friends
No, I've been to I know I've been drinking people aren't my friends and not not really has been it's all just let's just buy a bottle of rosé buy bottle of wine
Down it all know what has kegs. This is our kegs. I don't think no you have red party caps
We do not have that I bought some
From CVS just to take home
Shipping them back
So
Red party cap so we had a party while we were down there at Pax
at the Kodiak Club in Melbourne.
Did you see that they had those red silicaps at the door?
They did.
They were wrong.
They did the wrong cups, sir.
Did you see them?
No.
Like, they weren't quite right.
They were red and plastic.
But instead of having the rings
going this way around them, they were like a vertical life.
Like, all the way around them.
I was like, the fuck is this?
So they don't throw it in the ground. They throw it in the ground. And I was like, what the fuck is this? So it goes through all the way around it?
I was like, this is wrong, this isn't right.
Then they cried, because there's this old sandwich.
What do you mean is that? Is that like, is there one company that has a monopoly on that?
Solo Cup.
Is that what it's actually called? The company is so low.
They're so low.
What the?
They're on song too.
You just go buy a bunch of cups and then you just need to provide it.
They just happen to be right.
I just want my cups like plastic cups that you can see through.
No. In fact, at university, I'm so undemysticated. I just buy plastic for everything. He's gonna buy a bunch of cups and then you just need to remember they just happen to be right I have some like plastic cups that you can see through. No
In fact a university I'm so undemysticated. I just buy plastic for everything plastic knife plastic for plastic plates
Can't do it plastic cup can he's amazing can it's a way to live learning no washing up
I also can't enough paper plates. I can't fucking stand it
I just hate it. I just like I'm eating food. I just want a goddamn plate and I
I just hate it. I just like I'm eating food. I just want a goddamn plate and I want to open your mind and soul to fit into your mental state of wanting to get new socks every day.
It's like, nope. Did you play? What are you done? Throw it away.
I mean, you'd again, but you can't do it. Can't do it. Hate it. I also like the, I like
new socks. So the front end of that I like. It's like, it's like saying I want to eat
a meal of a clean plate every time. I do and I actually do do that. But like it's like it's like saying I want to eat a meal of a clean plate every time I do and I actually do do that but like I think I want to wear new socks every day
It's something I do want to do. I don't want to throw away a pair of socks every day
That's why I don't do it. It's just like the idea of tossing out socks every day is
Extraordinarily wasteful to do. I need them a good will yeah, I don't know if you can
You don't eat socks you can't donate a mattress. I got a freaking mattress. I can't get rid of it I mean if it's been on fucking gusses fee. I don't want if you can you don't eat socks you can't donate a mattress. I got a freaking mattress
I can't get rid of it. I mean if it's been on fucking Gus's feet. I don't want them
That's true. You imagine a homeless person getting like flakes of Gus
Follow him around
He's so lucky. What if you dog
Who develops an dependency when the addiction?
What if your dog defles an addiction to your feet? Yeah, and then he starts looking at me like I need your feet like
My dog go to a different owner. Why you gotta bring that up? So I always wonder like is he gonna is I hope
I don't know I'm not gonna take about my dog going to someone else. Yeah, so we talk we
You guys I'm depressed now. Oh, I don't worry about it. Okay. So we were talking about comments earlier did
Do you read about the Phil Fish thing?
What went down? The developer of Fez?
Who, what are these things that you're talking about? So did you, did you ever play Fez?
So I never played either, but I was heard about it. It's an indie game and he was actually in
The independent movie they made called was it called any game the movie? Indie game the movie
Yeah, and he was one of the main people highlighted and apparently, the guy's known for being outspoken and quite frankly, a bit of an asshole,
according to most people who follow him. Right. And he got in this argument
with online critics and abruptly said, you know, fuck this, I can't live in this
world of negativity and paraphrasing here. And said he's canceling FES 2.
And he's getting out of games, game industry.
And sure enough, the publisher, a few, half an hour later, or an hour later, posted and
said, development of FES2 has been canceled.
We're sorry for anyone who's disappointed.
And that's it, so he's gone.
So he just basically, and now there's been this big analysis by the gaming industry,
the gaming blogging industry, about what blogging industry about what is going on in
like what is the negative negativity at the guy angry gamer.
I think it's annoying gamer annoying gamer.
Yeah, because he had called him out for not giving a statement about the Xbox one stance
on indie game publishing before they came out and clarified that you could publish games
from any Xbox one console.
Here's what I would ask like a publisher say someone at the top of that project, so
they don't want to do it now.
As a publisher, would you literally go say, oh, all right, let's cancel thing.
A publisher won't have that happen, they get someone you in.
Publisher doesn't have the rights to it.
They might have, I don't know, I would imagine there's some kind of insurance as well.
Like if they put that much money in.
I don't know if the publisher put him money at that point.
You know, we don't know.
I mean, if it's an independent game and he's in the developer
He's independently financed you know either by himself or through his own time
I would ask then if he like kill the whole thing just because of this negative of critics
What is it that he wants like does he want?
Normal people to enjoy his game. Does he orders a care about you know like reviews and critics?
He's done with the game industry. He left the industry.
Internetory. He said that he's done with that negative, the negative cycle.
So say, okay, flip that around. You've got a musician who just makes like cheesy music.
Like, you know, not good music. Great, Nika Bap. I was going to say one direction.
Nika Bap. And that, but like, are they going to quit just because the industry thinks they're not cool?
Like, would you say the game industry is any more negative than any other creative injury in industry?
Yes, I will they were posting and I'm working for memory here
I'll get some more notes when talking about this on the patch later this week, but they were showing examples of how
You know people could say things like boy the
The movies this year kind year look all similar.
These movies that are coming out the summer kind of shitty.
And nobody will bat an eyelash at that.
But if you say, wow, the Xbox One looks a lot like the PS4.
People will be like, fuck you, no way, they're totally different.
This one's way better and for this reason, fuck you.
And they showed a Twitter feed from one of the developers
that by a belief call of duty.
And they had just made a modification to balance showed a Twitter feed from one of the developers that by a belief call of duty and
They had just made a modification to balance
The sniper rifle in the game like they changed the re bolt time and the reload
Rechambering speed of the gun by like point one seconds which makes a difference
when you're playing and the guys Twitter feed was like literally just this like endless stream of like fuck you. I hope your family gets killed
I hope you get raped. I'm gonna find you and I'm gonna dismember you
Oh my god, I just died in college duty again. You fucking loser fix this or I'll come to your house and chop your head off
I mean just like you don't really get that in other stuff man. You really don't get that
It's like you don't get this like constant
barrage of unbelievably
Negative feedback. I mean, you want to,
let's make it. Let's make it. Let's make it. Yeah, I Jones the crystal skull or, or like,
and night shammel and just put out yet another movie, right? And people will sometimes criticize
and not shammel and for not living up to his potential. I don't think anyone's ever said,
if you make another shitty movie, I'm going to fucking murder you. I can't, I don't think
anyone said that. It's a man. It's a man so much. Yeah, but someone says something everywhere. It sounds bizarre
It for whatever reason it doesn't sound bizarre in the gaming world
Well, I guess because movies are passive experience whereas games are active
And in the game it's like gun. Yeah, well, I mean it's people kind of messing with you and making your life more difficult
If you're playing the game so that does make more sense than if they're just watching
It's like people think that that's their real is like it's them pretending that it's
their real life one of the
making your either making you more stress
uh... if you want to read a really good article about this uh... penair k the
p.a. report
uh... bencuchera did i thought it really great
uh... article about it i you know
i and we will definitely talk about the patch i don't necessarily agree that
uh... you shouldn't read the comments or that you should take those people seriously the point where you quit the industry
But I will say this there is sometimes where I feel like I'm spending my life
Creating entertaining content. I mean we make
Dozens of hours of content a week now at a research teeth
There are some points in time when I read some feedback and I'm like, I don't wanna entertain that person.
Like, I don't want that person to have a better experience
in life because of my work.
It's like, I literally, but you don't get to pick
and choose that.
You know what I mean?
It's like, do you think that's their way
of enjoying content?
Now that's the other argument I've always made in the past,
is that you have to read the comments
because there's some people who will go through
and pick something apart on a critical basis.
I like, this sucked.
I thought this, like, in Reverse Blue, this was Momentwo Shitty, this joke was funny, this one was I thought this sucked, I thought this, like, in reverse blue, this was moment with shitty,
this joke was funny, this one was not funny.
And I used to think, like, wow, these guys are an asshole, but it's like, nope, that person
is enjoying that content.
That's just the way that that person enjoys content.
That's a far different scenario though than, like, fuck you, you're a shit bag, you shouldn't
be making this stuff, you should get raped or killed or, you know, your family.
No, that's just like, this is the job of trying to why we need censorship on the internet to stop kids from telling people online discussion
Telling people they should kill themselves. It's just awful. I love it David Cameron
I actually I think if we want to talk about a solution to some of the stuff might be is that you no longer have anonymity
That anonymity is is anonymity on the internet required you don't have it anymore
Yeah, you do I feel like that's that's an illusion like I in a criminal case you might not
Like it you know they can find out for my pee and find out who you are probably but just making a comment
It is part of the just the anonymous like see of people constantly making noise
Yeah, you have an
anonymity. I don't know. Big problems
inside by bullying about that.
Especially in England and the people
that would just especially for teenagers
they would have those like that may
a question and I'll answer it and like
people anonymously send questions to
14 year olds like why don't you kill
yourself. If you're curious like Google
someone's username and they very well
might have a link to like a public
profile like they use that same username on other sites that reveal like there's like Google someone's username and they very well might have a link to like a public profile
like they use that same username and other sites that reveal it like there's it's unbelievable
the
ridiculous amount of privacy people still making two different arguments I'm saying you can be anonymous you're saying some people are
bad at anonymity I agree some people are bad at anonymity more than they
really realize they leave a trail of it but I'm saying it's like if if you could no longer be anonymous
Yeah, like if you when you you had to post your name was your full name
Yeah, yeah, you might be surprised at what people wouldn't put up at that point in time
A lot of people would change in their real names to John Smith. Yeah, yeah
Yeah, then it's like how would you fall that you would like at that point if you're gonna enforce that you'd have people to like have to
Like link with their government ID, but their social security number or something and then that's getting a bit weird
I mean you say that how do I know you I'll tell you you say it's weird
But your ISP is gonna have a control panel that you can go to that controls what you see on the internet
Who knows your real name when you connect to the internet your ISP?
They know one they know one name in a household right so they would put that name on everything and then the master account can create subacaus
That's a lot of work not that far fetched compared to what the UK is already implementing for privacy
Can I read you a small sample here? This is from the PA report. This is a report by I think it's by Ben Cuchera who wrote this
The byline I think is at the bottom. Let me read it to you now. Oh, tribute the quote to who said it or who wrote it
David Von der Har is the studio design director on call of duty black ops 2 recently was announced that gun in the game was being balanced
quote the DSR fire time was point two seconds it's now point four seconds
Vonderhar said on Twitter the re-chamber time was 1.0 seconds it's now 1.1 seconds
unquote he also said he didn't know if these fractions of a second are worth
threats of violence.
That's not hyperbole and in fact he was being very calm about the sort of messages he was receiving. Some of which you can see in this tumbler. I want to quote a few and I'm not going to edit any of the words or spelling.
This is what we ask the people to make our games to wake up to every morning.
This is their diet of fan interaction. These are quotes on Twitter.
Why don't I get probation when even when the game kicks me
You fucking retarded fag at piece of shit packing cunt
Another one is I'm going to tie you up and rape your family if you don't fix the fucking DSR
I hope you die in the gas chambers like your parents did. I can't fucking imagine
I cannot imagine if somebody put out a movie or a TV show that they would get that. Here's a great example people fucking hated
movie or a TV show that they would get that. Here's a great example.
People fucking hated a recent development
of Game of Thrones that happened.
And we're like, George R.R. Martin,
you're, I'm not gonna watch your show again.
You know, it's stuff like that.
I don't remember hearing a litany of like,
George R.R. Martin, I hope you fucking died.
You know, and things like that.
I just don't remember hearing that.
Because we know that Game of Thrones is not real, isn't it?
Well, the news is, it's dark, isn't it? Of course it is. Okay. Okay. No
The video games that you know that video games are not real like even with Call of Duty that's based on real
I know it's not you grew up in the UK. How do you know that Westeros is not a real place? What is it?
We have dragons in the
International
I was gonna give a fuck a history lesson about Westeros and the seven fucking kingdoms of the UK
At home you ruined it with the dragon. I can't believe I can't believe it
I've even lost track of what I can't believe
It is it's only fictional. It's okay. It's all fictional. No, but with video games. It's up as drag
Thanks, buddy. So with video games people know that it's not real because you know they're playing it and
They're controlling it. They don't think I'm actually controlling a real person in the real world so I've lost track of what my point is
All right, yeah, you're kind of countering yourself there a little bit of it. Neither one of them is real
Like like you said people know a game of throwing just a real. They also know called you. He's not real
Yeah, and they make arguments about you know that it's not but what percentage of those comments that you read
Do you think really reflect the overall volume of interaction those people have with the fan?
You're the negative people a lot more
but you can't be
happy about that
it's probably more vocal the people there's no one who is like
oh thank you for increasing the chamber time from one point one point one
seconds the game is much better now no one fucking sends that message yeah but
overall thoughts in like you know communication about the game and reflection
about the game it's still there's still a lot of positive stuff like granted
when they make little changes
as we've seen or any website is seen as well like Facebook makes a change all you hear negative things but still the overall
reflection on the product i'm sure it's still really good but it's just those horrible comments that get everyone's attention and those become the focus.
You look at the feedback when the only feedback you get is negative i mean you but is that the only feedback you think
yes as as someone who helps
run a website that makes changes occasionally
yeah but the changes that the changes but i'm talking about the overall
product
like i get that the things you change
will create a negative reaction
i don't think you should realistically expect people to like change because
they just don't but the overall product
and like the overall way that people enjoy your games and the communication
that they have with you
i'm assuming is way more positive
then the much more that if you don't get the feedback
but i might have a psychic i can read people's minds and know what their
experiences you don't think there's a lot of tumblr post on just people liking
the games are you do you think people who can learn about call of duty there's no one of Tumblr posts on just people liking the games or do you think those people who complain about Call of Duty?
There's no one else who says they like Call of Duty.
I'm telling you, I guarantee you the guy did not get a single message that says thank you
for increasing the chamber time on this rifle from 1.0 to 1.0.
No, I agree with that because that's the nature of making changes.
I agree that that's very negative.
I'm just saying the overall experience about being in the gaming industry or the entertainment
industry, I feel like the overall feedback you get is positive.
It's just those things that stand out as negative.
Well, in that specific case, then, yeah, you can say it's positive because the game made $300 million.
You know, I just think that's a dialogue of people liking the game.
Yeah.
No, I agree, but it's hard when you get beat down when the only interaction, the only messaging you're getting is,
I hope you die in a gas chamber
Great I feel great about the job I do every day. I'm gonna message him and let him know that I like I bend it
Fix your game everyone hates it because the lag why can't you shoot around corners?
I'm just reading like random sampling here
There's a lot of stuff about this guy's on the sweater kind of now from the articles that have come up
You know, it's just it's a lot of feedback about how much they don't like the game,
about being shitty and stuff like that.
But then you and I used to talk about this a lot a few years ago.
Yeah.
You know, we talk about like, uh, reference, we go on all the back like season six.
We used to talk about processing comments.
Yeah.
And one of the things I remember talking to you about, I actually wanted to do a game
time with you and talk to you about just interaction,
online, social interaction, especially as a young person
like kind of growing up in that and see what's like.
So I'm gonna say yes on the podcast
as it made me catch the ablives.
Absolutely, before you go home.
Well, we'll have to record it.
But like one of the things we talked about was that
you went through a period I felt like where
there would be 45 pages of comments on something.
And if there's the one negative comment,
that one would stick with you.
And I think that's the thing that a lot of traffic,
a lot of people fall into.
And I fall into it as well,
where in the sea of good comments,
like law, good episode,
or whatever, or just like,
somebody quoting like Kaboos said this,
and they just put the quote in,
that's typically a good comment.
But then there's the one in the middle
that's like, here's why this episode is shit.
That, that, that, that.
And that, that comment, because it's contrary,
and because it draws out details and points,
it seems more intelligent than all the other comments
that are just sitting there saying they liked it, you know?
But if they just said, bullshit, the sucks, whatever.
But no one's gonna go through and say,
I love this episode because of this and because of that. They will that They realize a reaction though to that person. That's a different thing
They were like that person instigates a discussion and then people were respond and say this is why I like that
What's like critics reviews? It's a difference between a guttural reaction like something that you immediately feel right and then something when you try to analyze something
You know what you really want is the guttural reaction
And but yeah, you do and you want you what you want is the 99.8% of the people who don't leave a comment
Yeah, I just watch the show every week and come back or play Call of Duty every week and just have a great time
And they get their ass kicked or they their sniper rifle doesn't load as fast as we can they're like I guess I'll use the machine gun
You really know if something's not good and it's not working if people stop going to it
You know the comments at that point don't really matter if people, people don't like
something they don't go to it, but if the numbers are going up and more people are looking
at it, you know, they're not saying that to you, they're not communicating that to you,
but you've got that number that you know that more people are going to it.
And that's the thing as well with events like RTX and stuff is those people start to become
not just numbers, but real people. And you see like swarms of people like in like panels just like filled with thousands of people that really
love it. They would they probably would not leave a comment saying I enjoy this experience
I would watch it again next week. Right. It's just you get that from them being the place
they're laughter and then leave with a smile on the face. And even though it's only one
guy puts his mouth on the mic and filates it but that's the guy that everybody would all remember that guy
if he does there's a huge evidence of
you know engagement that he had it would be different if you just like this
sucks goodbye
but i mean he still shows to kind of go to you was a negative just say it's
a good example of like
you draw out the extreme examples and you tend to remember those
and that's just the way that's just the way works but the one comment is not
negate the forty 42 pages of comments
from people before it's saying they liked it.
But you shouldn't.
And you know, I don't know what to say.
It's like, should you quit in industry
because of that kind of thing?
I guess it all depends on your personality.
Some people don't want to do that.
But then it makes me wonder,
what is someone like Phil Fish going to go do?
Like, what is he going to go into writing for TV?
Is he going to go into graphic design?
No. We've also been a lot of other stuff. I don't know who he is. I can't tell you. It's the guy who made Fizz.
Yeah, that is. I can't say anything. I've got to be careful. Especially dealing with all the pressure to
Making a successful product. Like I'm sure there's a lot of reasons that he probably
That didn't work out. Yeah, you guys should definitely read the article by Ben Cacera. It was really very telling in the middle of it
He had a youtube clip
uh... from davis appell
talking to the who's the actor studio guy
uh... james looked at the talk of james looked in and he's talking about
the pressures of hollywood and it's like
we said this guy's crazy davis appellant after he's crazy martin lorchard's
running the traffic
with a gun he's crazy
mariah carry was
you know what half naked on t-rl she's crazy
but these are crazy people he goes these are well-established great performers because
it's hard thing to do they're not crazy.
So what is it?
Why are people acting like this?
What is it about this environment that makes people act like that?
And it's a good question you know I don't think Phil Fish is crazy.
Why do you start to the imagination?
I think if he's an asshole I think some people are just inherently assholes and call people
out on stuff
But what is it about that that just draws like moss to a flame all this negative interaction and how much can one
individual individual be expected to bear from that because he didn't have a big company, right?
It was just like you're not really sharing that load of you know criticism
It's like they're not really criticizing the game or the company.
They're criticizing you as a person.
That's tough.
I study media communications at universities,
so I should be able to give you an academic answer to your question.
Go ahead.
I can't.
That doesn't sound like a bullshit.
Course at all.
But the reason why people love that is because they want that ability to just be
not with no repercussions, with no consequences.
And it gives them that kind of deep deep down, like, everyday, like, people that, like, you work with it, you
don't like, you say, fucking it, you're like, I don't know. All these things, you have to
kind of repress, being anonymous on instant, let you just unload all this stuff, and you
know it will never come back to you. And that's why Bernie says that, you know, removing
anonymity on the internet would do that. It's just absolutely. You would also lose
a lot, because there's a lot of places in the world where the internet would you read that? I think you could do that. It's tough. You would also lose a lot.
Because there's a lot of places in the world where the internet is used for purposes
that you need to be anonymous for.
Somebody, somebody, it's color rising and shit.
Yeah, and for communicating, there's a lot of people in places where information is
not free and they need to be able to access other parts of the world where it is and not
identify themselves.
I get that, you know what I mean?
But maybe Twitter isn't one of those places.
It also lets you be very impulsive.
Like I think someone was saying how,
if Twitter forced you to wait a minute
and then asked you, do you really wanna tweet this?
We'd probably have less people fucking up,
especially athletes and saying really stupid things.
If you get mad, you can just go on the internet
and then just say something.
You don't have to get a piece of paper and a pen and write it all out and get an envelope because at that time you're just like
I don't fucking over it but I mean I think I think I think I have a skewed view of privacy on the
internet just because I feel like I really don't have much of it. You don't yeah really do you know. I make
like like you talked about like generic names name is being searchable. My name is instantly findable. Yeah, you know
There's not a bunch of Gus Arale. I think as well like you look it up. It's gonna. It's probably me or it's my dad
You'll be like in an interview and people be asking you things and you'll say something in the minute that you'll forget
Immediately and then like people will bring that up like I said that on the podcast that happens all the time
Yeah, and then there's like hundreds of hours of you for your future children to look back and like,
my dad was an awesome.
Don't forget, kid.
You have an encyclopedia of Gus.
How many podcasts did he have?
150?
Way more than that.
200?
200, yeah.
So it's 200 hours no more than that, maybe.
Gus, you've been on like 95% of the podcast?
500 hours of Gus.
Gus, you're like,
every of the things that Gus on Fisher, you've given. Yeah. You're like, I'm gonna say in a
Gus on Fishery. You've given. Yeah, great. Yeah, your name.
One of every medical condition you've had to give.
We're probably in the strafler. I say anything else.
Or say anything I remember.
Two with a medical condition. Are you googling me?
Yeah, I'm just looking. Your name auto-completes pretty quickly.
You're like the third entry.
Like an encyclopedic.
Yeah, not a lot of Gus's. All right. Well,
I think we're at time.
So we should go ahead and wrap this up.
I want to thank everyone for watching this week
and we'll be back on Wednesday with the episode of the patch
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