Rooster Teeth Podcast - RT Podcast #267

Episode Date: April 15, 2014

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Welcome to the RISD Podcast this week with Gus. Gavin, Miles, Bernie, and Gus. So two of you were at the X-East this weekend. That was, so by the process of elimination, because you said two of you, at the east this weekend. That was so by the process of elimination because you said two of you. That means you were not so that leaves just two of the three of us that were there. Very good. It was me and it was Gabby. Yeah, welcome back.

You all have. I didn't see Gab in the entire time. What were we doing? Just tagging out like panels and stuff like that. Yeah. I was at I was this was my time to go around like you guys were, it was the lads there in there, Lindsay, Monty as well. And so I just, I went, spent this entire con doing like industry catch up stuff. That's what I did. So how did you walk

around? What's that? How did you get around without it was, it was not easy. We so like, I, we've talked about this before, I don't actually need glasses. So if I what? So if I take off my glasses and I walk around without my glasses off it's it does slow down the process of you mean getting stopped on the floor. You're like a shitty Superman. I guess that I get stopped but it is like it's it's also a thing too for like people see you and you're walking with purpose. A lot of times like'm like, oh it looks busy, I'll just catch a lighter. But once you stop, then you're stopped. And then so it's like, oh hey, you say take pictures with people and all this stuff.

It's really cool. I say, but I get there. So why don't we all walk another 20 feet and I'll stop again and do that. So that's just the strategy. My method for getting around was a three step process. Hood up. Gold sun glasses on. Pretend like I'm on the phone. That's good.

Actually very effective. Yeah, people are really cool. People don't, I mean, they don't always just catch you another time or something like that. Like there were times when I was helping Ashley shoot some new segments. If I had the camera on my thing, everybody was just like, nope, he's working.

How many camera can get you a lot of stuff? It can get you into places, it can also get you in trouble in place. I'm a pussy did did I'm Pussy and that and that too some girls are really into camera dudes is with yeah, yeah No, it's a thing are you being seriously? No, I'm deadly serious. Yes. I was filming a poker game once and this goes like I'm really into like skinny camera dudes. It's totally my time I was like all right, she was deadly serious. What's your attitude? All right, she was deadly serious

No, it's a weird specific fetish. It's like skinny camera dudes.com And she was like telling me that her ex boyfriend is like a documentary guy. Oh, no kidding That's a true I think she'll film her. I mean, you know that could be the her I think I might know the person that you're talking about and she seemed like she was very into her Things she had going on. Yeah, yeah, her pole You are correct. Yes. Yeah, so be an inch be an inch The segue of that people who are super into stuff that's really awesome The bar for cosplay is just too fucking hot high at this point like if I made miles if I made a cosplay I'd be the guy who's

like the Iron Man made out of pizza boxes. Yeah. Then like just like or like the kids Halloween costume. Yeah. The people, first of all, the legal legends booth at Pax East and Boston this weekend was Gus. I want to say it was an 80 by 80 booth. It was huge. It was massive. It was massive. Like when you go down the escalators, it was the whole left side. like that side over there took it all of that space up when you're coming down the escalators Did it cosplay contest? I want to say day two and The line of people in costumes wrapped all the way around that booth then all the way down the exterior wall and then down another wall halfway of the Exterior wall of the convention hall

Well, I'm just to get like your costume judged, like just to get up there. These were all people in costume. Yeah, and they were all going to be like filing due to go through this costume contest. And we're talking like good. Dude, they were fucking amazing miles. I don't know the characters. I try to look up. There's a mermaid character. I think Ariel. I prefer to rule is I think is the name of the champion and League of Legends,

which we've also discovered League of Legends champions. They'll have very unique names like they're very searchable, but no one knows how to pronounce them at all When you make how would you pronounce S-I-V-I-R the name? Silver How to pronounce I-V-I-R S-I-V-I-R Severe Severe? Severe?

Yeah, severe and it's like big debates over how to pronounce these things and I'm sure the Peer gonna blow up in me because I'm not pronouncing it their particular way But there's really it's hard to find a pronunciation guy for these things. But Sir Rule, I think I looked it up, was the, is the mermaid champion? There was this lady who had a, like, from the waist up, it was like this awesome,

perfect mermaid costume. But then from the waist down, she'd built a fucking island with like, fake, like a fake fish tail. And she would like, walk the island, like the whole thing, like, like fake, like a fake fish tail and she would like walk the island, like the whole thing, like it was almost like a hard skirt, but it looked perfect and it looked like she was sitting on a rock and she would get up and she'd move

and she was like, she had like octopus tentacles as well. I don't think it's actually that mermaid. I tried to look it up later. See what it was, there might be like a half woman, half octopus champion that's in League of Legends, but it was fucking amazing. I saw that. That's true.

Doing this on the escalator. It was funny. And there was a time Ruby cosplayers, I got a picture of the Yang cosplayer that I saw. And it's like, it's the bars too high. The bars too high. And my second friend, she's walking around. Every day she had a different, perfect costume. She had a fucking final fantasy sword that was like 12 feet tall.

I saw that. I saw that I saw that because we were all gonna get a cab together to the hotel And they wouldn't take them because that wouldn't fit in any of the cabs that's a good Yeah, she weighs like 80 pounds I don't know how she could like I don't know if she can hold it up But then she is a whole unit would just tip over The wind would just take her yeah take me to the calm It's like that bars way too high now like I that's like in the last five years

You could be like an amateur cross player like you have to be pro right? He's like come in that's when you go to the funny route if you can't do it seriously You can't make it look good. That's when you just always go the funny route like make it look bad on purpose piece of box iron Man, yeah, but embrace the piece of like have pepperoni and then we're those dudes Yeah, like there were there were the dudes like who came and they all dressed as the Mario guys like there was a Mario a Luigi a Wario and a while Luigi and they look like they had like the felt costumes they'd made themselves and they were just kind of okay but it was kind of cute but I was like yeah you guys you guys are a bunch of dickheads because look at the fucking lady walking around as like a moving island there was a dude who is dressed as like an eight-foot tall character from Wild Star,

then he went, MMO that's coming out. And it's just like, it was perfect. It was like his head must have been somewhere in here, but you couldn't see it. It was just, it was perfect. And it's just like, I don't know, I get like, when people wanna get started

and doing like online video stuff, we'll just get started, you know, just get started. But it's like, now I get it. Cause someone said, oh, just started doing cosplay. I'd be like, fuck no. I'm just making a fucking idiot. Just make that. You should tell them, you're like, so nice costume.

Can you make a YouTube video? What's up? Fuck off, bitch. It was a good convention. Pack ceases, I think is my favorite one of all the ones I've been to. Packed out was really good on. Everyone was friendly, no one was a knob. It's fine.

Check list done. I feel like I'm talking too much to be in the podcast, but I disagree with you because you had a knob. It's fine. Check list done. I feel like I'm talking too much to the media podcast, but I disagree with you because you had a knob. Boston as a city has the worst fucking service of any city that I've ever been into my life. I mean, yeah, I was. No people. I was about the fans. They're great. They actually like surrounding service, like security and like people at the hotel. Oh, wait, waiters. Or for was it right? so I want to make a quick correction I think the mermaid characters name is Nami Nami and I'm in a M I I'm yeah that's it is that her I don't know I'm not me cause this was from

PAX Prime 2013 so thank you because I was looking it up on the plane trying to figure NAMI yeah yeah that looks like it that looks like it someone who was at Twitter Mark Gino Vincent thank you for the correction AMI. Yeah, yeah, that looks like it. That looks like it. Someone who was at Twitter Mark Gino Vincent. Thank you for the correction. And I looked up at cosplay galleries for Paxies 2014 I was trying to find pictures of this Nami cosplay Or mermaid cosplay from League of Legends. I couldn't find it and if anybody can send me a picture of that girl in particular That would be amazing. That'd be really cool. It's funny You said that she nailed the upper half of the of the mermaid costume I I'm sitting here going like I think that's just a chicken a bikini

Shokups If I did I'd be wearing like a little mermaid bikini That'd be my hair. So I was getting dinner with with Meg on one of the nights and we were ordering food and The waitress came every and said, one thing on the menu is sold out, but I won't tell you what it is, because if you don't order it, then it's fine, you know. That's cool.

It's like a game. I like that's not cheeky. Meg ordered, it was totally the thing that was sold out. And then instead of the waitress apologizing, she was like, oh, burn. I was like, should you be apologizing instead of just being like and she was like oh so deep Spitting food and I enjoy that Yeah, it was like so sarcastic, but really mean and like she really hated it

Fucked aren't you The hotel lobby there's like a little bar restaurant area there and the host is there and I can tell you what she was doing because I watched her do it for about two minutes. She had a sheet of paper and she had the column of numbers and she was just going through and writing other numbers next to it. I had enough time to figure out what the relation was between the numbers because I'm watching her do this. This host is like 14578, she's writing 13, 19, 21, and I'm standing there and I finally

went, ah, hey, she is yeah, and I go can we uh Can we get a table she is yeah, but are you can sit you down, but our kitchen's not gonna open for another half hour? And I said okay, that's great because all we want is drinks. She goes okay She's like I go. We just want like coughing stuff. She goes well. I haven't made any Okay, and then I was like, and then Ashley goes, hey, how about we go to Starbucks? And then like, gags me away. And then we went out to dinner with E from Xbox Live,

who you may know from a game time video we did with him. And he had to be, I remember he specifically, he wanted to be back at the convention hall of nine because he wanted to go to the giant bomb panel. He worked that out. So he got to the restaurant at 8.15, but it was everywhere's pack because there's nothing around that convention center.

Right, the middle of nowhere. Yeah, so we did find a restaurant where they could see this within five minutes which was amazing. They even made a big deal about the fact that they weren't gonna give us three of the same chairs. One of your chairs will be different, is that okay? We're like, yeah, that's totally fine.

No. Because it's like, well, it's a big deal to us. We're like, well, that's a nice place. Nope. The, we sat there, everything satis. It's the thing where we sat there for 20 minutes. And we were talking and we were like, nobody has come up to our table.

Like they just didn't assign a waiter or wait your store table. We sat in the window. We were close to the window. Yeah. Did you combine see this? Totally saw you in this. Oh, they did.

You're by sauce doing this. Because we thought, okay, we sat down with 40 minutes before 9 o'clock. We thought, maybe we get done, get food, get out out and we get e-back to his panel go see these guys We were at dinner for two and a half hours. Jesus So that's a special kind of torture I missed it. Oh, he don't really miss it. We weren't even done with the time panel endage I mean it was like it took for fucking ever and every time we talked about how long it took it

Then it like added another half hour to it and chairs were the same though. I mean see how that Did it get into what she comes up? She's like she's like here you go. Oh the Coutude is already in there like it was Three of us who ends Coutude for three fucking people the president damn restaurant in Boston that's us who has good to do for three fucking people. The best damn restaurant in Boston, that's cool. What was it like 20% bad at least. I got terrible fucking food poisoning last year at Paxies. Did you really? Like some of the worst ever of my life.

Like I think it was the first night, it was before the first night I had just finished setting up so it was Thursday night you know everyone had gotten there yet. I was there with Alan and we were staying out there intercontinental. There was like a stake place right around the corner. So we like, let's go to the stake. So we go into the stake place, I get like some Cajun rubble shit thing. I was like, wow, this takes really good. Go back to my room, you know, pass out, fall asleep. I woke up at about three in the morning. I was like, man, I've got a serious stomach ache. I was like, I'm just gonna go back to sleep. Nope, can't go back to sleep.

I need to run to the toilet, and I'm not sure if I'm gonna make it. Oh, oh, oh. And it was like the kind of thing where it's coming out of both ends at the same time. And you don't know how to position yourself. It's like, do I sit and puke on the floor or do I puke and shit on the floor?

Nah, you just climb on the top and turn it on. That's what you do. It was, that's what I was doing. It was making nice stew. It was fucking terrible. And then afterwards, I laid on the floor because the tile was cool. I was like, I'm just going to lay on the cool tile for this. And try to get over this violence that just happened to me.

I hate that moment when you decide you agree with your brain that you are going to throw up. And at that point, it's like, I might actually not make it. And it's really scary because you've got to be like, I don't know, like, disturb my up. And at that point, it's like, I might actually not make it. And it's really scary, because you're gonna be like, I don't like disturbed my body, you see, like, yep. And then the end is just like, it's just so violent. Yeah, but it was like such a relief.

And then I felt drained. That's why I just like, I just laid down. I just got over like, recovered from that for a little bit. He's had a hardcore ab workout, is that what? You just worked on your core for a few minutes and then leaked. That's what that was.

I watched you, I watched you leg it off a panel before in Chanda. Oh, yeah, I'm not Is it a con? Yeah 2006. Yeah, I don't I don't try here Was it on six minutes? Remember ago? Yeah, you got you got up and just kind of shimmyed off in the background Then I saw you off to as you go. I threw up Shoot it out of me. It's been on a habit occasionally. Yeah up everyone. It was shooting out of me. It's been on a half an occasion, Willie. Oh my god. I know so. The same place you went, was it the high-end stake place that's right near there? I'll name it. I don't care.

Go ahead. Smith and Wollinsky. Okay. I'll go into Morton's. But no, no, no, no. I do, I do like going to Morton's. But this was at Smith and Wollinsky. The reason I ask is you and Alan, and Gus and Alan have the thing when they go to cons together, they just try to eat at the nicest possible place. And just sing with them. And one time Alan was accidentally texting me while he was texting guys. Oh god.

They were plotting out. I was like, I found this great type of place Not meetings they were gonna have He somehow replied to a group text And I just said it was separate text I'm like you're texting me and birdie, but you're gonna be If you could have texted that if you could have texted it, if you could have texted this, I bet you would. I probably still have it here somewhere. Probably do. I actually, I love the rudeness of the East Coast.

What? It's refreshing. I think that because I hate friendlyness. Yeah. Is that all because I'm from England where everyone just stares at the ground and nobody talks to you and makes eye contact stuff. So what's wrong with friendlyness? Is it just make you uncomfortable?

Do you feel like it's not genuine? What is it? Yeah, the non-chanymanist just irritates me like everyone's like hey you hate your life and you know it stop but I walked up to this guy because there was no water in the room so I walked up to a guy in a lobby I was like excuse me do you know do you know anyway in this hotel I can buy water and he and he was just looking ahead and he looked ahead for like eight seconds and I was like easy how long do I wait before I say it again or just walk away and he went Hmm

Got a room here and I was like yeah I'm 520 or something. He's like show me the key And then he just walked off and I was like is he and then he came back with a bottle of water But it's just like such a weird Sort of rude approach to doing that. What was the... And he's in service. It's a hotel lobby. There was something else like that we had to do. I can't remember what it was.

I got to text there. What was the thing where somebody was like telling us something but not telling it to us. Like they were going to hide it like the what was I sold out. I think about it a second. Go over the text thing. So the text thing was planning and preparation for dice and it's a link to what to order at Lotus of Siam Thai restaurant in Las Vegas And I'm just getting this text. I'm not going to dice. I'm like what the fuck is this?

It's like this whole thing about like what you should eat what you shouldn't eat at this restaurant And Alan takes me later like a one-on-one takes this. I don't know what happened It was really bizarre. I don't even like Typhoon The way that happened, but in general our travel was completely fucked up on this trip like completely fucked up and Like I only had hotels for Friday to Sunday But I was I tickets to plane tickets from Thursday to Monday So I was like I guess I just don't even sleep once on this floor. No Megan casher switched with me and then she ended up on on a four day trip. She had to switch hotel rooms

three times. She should be talking about like, no, the hail coming in this morning, but the hotels were, no, the travel was a little bit fucked. She should've told me I had two rooms. I wasn't using one. Why? Why did you two? Well, because Mac at a room and she didn't use it. Oh, that makes sense. Fair. Yeah. We're play. Yeah, she was out there doing a thing called next level. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, there's like a esports thing that you be soft as doing. Yeah, like casual competitive gaming. Yeah. We're like casual competitive or anyone can walk up. It's like more open. It's not just exclusive to people who are super pro and specific at one type of game.

And we actually, uh, Michael and I also ended up over there for one point doing a little stream with the trials guys. Yeah, we did a match where we set down and played a vault. That was so. Oh my God. What is that like? A vault was awesome. So that was probably I'd say the biggest hit on the floor. Like big big standouts were, I mean, legal edge is always huge, you know what I mean? Wild star was there. It was a really big booth. I was really cool. Ubisoft showed some watchdog stuff, but then didn't later. Yeah, they had it day one, but they didn't have it day two and three. Really? They had watchdog stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, I'm off base there, right? They they had it day one, and then it was gone. Yeah. And then but then evolve with huge like the 2K booth was probably the biggest, most traffic booth I'd say.

And they had Borderlands, the pre-sequel, was they're putting out and evolve, which is by the guys who made a letter dead. Yeah, Turtle Rocks do. Yeah. I can't wait. I would describe it as just an insanely intensified version of fighting the tank and Lefodec.

Oh, that's a great shot. It's just so tense and cool and it's so class based to it's not as generic as you can play both sides or just a you know Michael was the monster and it makes sense. Yeah. It's an extended boss battle to a boss match. I like all of the unique characteristics and attacks. I haven't played it. But based on what I read it seems like the unique characteristics of each class really

plays well. Like I was the medic. I had the ability to snipe and reveal weak points in the month. I could also tranquilize it, which put it an outline on it so everyone could see it. And it'll just slow it down a little bit. And also I could heal. Heal people. You check my prostate at one point.

We put up a video on the know about it. We couldn't show any gameplay way to use kind of canned footage for gameplay because they would just wouldn't allow that, you know, just shoot the screens. You know, because you're not fined or built and all that. And so, I played support and I had a shield that I could use to shield everybody else but me. So the monsters going after somebody, I could sit there and shield them and they were pretty much indestructible whenever I had my shield. I took a couple of seconds. That's why I was healing you the most is because you were the only one who was unshielded. I don't know if that's the thing. You used a shield. This shield everyone at once or is it one person at a time?

One person time. I did like target them and I had to stay with them and Medic and team fortress to type thing get kind of like that and then but he's the medic You know, it's kind of split up and then I also can call it an orbital Bombardment and then I had my own gun and then the most unique class was Lindsey she played the trapper and she gets at these Soundsflex. I don't know what exactly they did And then the most unique class was Lindsay. She played the Trapper. And she gets at these sound spikes. I don't know what exactly they did, but her big deal she did was when you found the monster, she could throw down and set up a mobile arena, which would then put an energy shield dome around us.

And that would trap us in one place where it'd kill the monster. The guy was saying that the map without that is kind of like the size of a battlefield map, just a super huge. And then you end up playing in a filled dome. It's just so tiny, like a really intense little map. And then it was assault, assaults like a typical, you know, battle FPS class. So you really fucked if your trapper gets killed because you're like, great. No, the monster can be anyone who gets killed and you kind of screwed. It's kind of cool.

And it's got the same mechanics of like down them and then they're on the ground, you pick them back up, or the monsters are pounded and I'm a kill them, or they bleed out while they're on the ground. That's what I loved about Lepherdead is if you don't work together as a team you're actually like completely totally fucked if you run off on your own and try to get your own stuff. I finally got Titanfall for the 360 and I started playing it and it's super fun.

I can't deny that it's really, really fun, but it's like I earned a sniper after playing however many rounds or something. I don't touch the thing I don't touch any of the shit that I am a snipe in game for me I don't know I'm not very effective with it at all. I said it's like junk food It's just like it goes straight through you. It's delicious. It's tasty and really intense But it has no nutritional value whatsoever. It's 12 minutes of ah

And then and then you want it again, but like it's I don't know it's it's it's really strange I don't even play as a titan I really strange. I don't even play as a Titan I don't like it has it. I play as a I play as a pilot all the time I put the Titan in auto mode and have it all my time get destroyed immediately. I just you rode your I just you rode your text I've decided my favorite mode is last Titan standing I play almost You're good with a Titan. Yeah with a Titan. I'm fucking which time do you use it? For last time standing I'll typically use an ogre sometimes I'll use an atlas. I always use the fast guy the little one. Oh, I love coming up I will blow the shit up out of you

It's fucking on two seconds flat. Wait, do you have for the one at 360 or one? Oh, fuck you. All right I'm current Jen Let me let me read this thing right now. Oh, let me do the last boss thing real quick Actually just reminding me what it was. We were in line to the security We had all these terrible service things in Boston and we're going out and the last thing was we're in the security line gonna leave Boston and we watched a guy in front of us go to the thing he goes here it shows the little boarding pass the guy he goes he goes yeah your pre-check and he goes the

guy says oh I am a loser pre-check line here. And he goes, yeah. Show me the guy goes, like this, he goes. It's over there. It's like, it was just like enough pause. Like, is there gonna be a monetary transaction here? I think that's what that pause is. It's like, I'm not gonna give enough room to where you feel like you have to give me money. When the guy was just staring ahead and ignoring me, I didn't look at his hand to see if

he was like getting his hand out for money or anything like that. It was the same thing was that pause. That's what reminded me of it. I forget about that. He wouldn't tell the guy over the pre-check line once. That's fucked up. I'm just not doing that. I'm just not doing the uncomfortable pause with people.

People are going to walk away. People are going to walk away. I think in Boston, I went anywhere else in the world. I would be amazed. I'd go to a restaurant and go like, this guy's a fucking prick. He doesn't really think I'm telling the dude. He's going to tell me. I was like, it was be amazed. And like I go to a restaurant, I go like, this guy's a fucking prick, he doesn't really think I'm telling the dude. He's gonna tell me. I was like, it was gonna be amazing.

It was like, waiters, everywhere else in the world are fucking push over. Look at someone from Buss and Us, someone from Water, and they go away and get it. And they just like, I don't know. He's like, it's like a respect,

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Someone on Twitter shaped it. Pointing out that Miles has the new community design shirt on. Oh yeah. And Wendy thing. What is that? And so we are a Rucheteen. It looks like it's supposed to be a 3D thing. Yeah, messes with your eyes.

Yeah. That was me showing it to the viewers. That's like internet. I mean, mess with people's eyes by making a noise. Well, that's the effect. You know, is it one immersive experience? Man, how many people came at you this last fucking week to tell you the Gavin was right about how many senses there are?

Oh, God. It was not stopped. And all I did was link some dumb fucking like YouTube show or QI or something like that. They'd say like, oh, look, Gavin was right. Here's a show with like two Just a couple of dickheads sit around a fucking table saying exactly what Gavin said and I totally listen Just because somebody doesn't fucking study and they determine these things. I I disagree They can publish and I can still say I fucking disagree. There are not 40 senses or whatever How can gravity be a sense? We talked about it in the panel.

To me, it's like a sense of like, you sense of gravity, not gravity. Well, whatever, a sense of gravity or temperature. Wait, what is a sense of gravity? Is it like gravity affects you? No, you feel that you have gravity. If you are, if I get a sense of balance, like that seems like an extra sense.

Well, here's the thing. I think he's a sense of temperature's warm too. Like you can detect temperature. That's just touch. It's touch, right? Yeah. That's like a subcategory of touch. You don't touch anything. You're touching the air, dipshit. Your skin's the thing. I think he says sense of temperatures warm too like you can detect temperature. That's just touch right. Yeah, that's like a subcategory of touch anything Here your touch in the air dips your skin's touching it No

So when it's hot outside it's the air that's hot and your skin touches it What if yeah, isn't hot then it's cold and your skin touches that I'll say the same thing I said before which is like to take temperature It's not a sense because you can't lose it. Nobody gets an accident and they can't feel temperature anymore. It's like you go to a hospital and you guys like, oh he doesn't have a sense of temperature. He would also be losing your sense of touch.

If you lose your feeling in your legs and you can't, you don't know if your legs are hot. That'd be touch. Like you can lose your sense of health. I see your head has no smell. He lost the sense. No, he stinks, he just can't smell it. No, he lost his sense of smell.

Or did he ever had it? He never found out. You'll say the air is touched on. So John. So John, and that makes you feel cold. Yes. What if you're in space and there's no air? Can you feel cold? It's the you also have an internal temperature too Just like you see parts of your body. You can also feel parts of your body I can't feel the temperature of my hot right now. What you can feel your when you get a fever you can feel that you feel let your hotter

Maybe I found somebody who doesn't have a sense of temperature. Where are you going? I've never had a fever. You never had a fever. No, I'm not. You've met a blind guy. You now know a guy who doesn't have a sense of smell. You met deaf people.

Okay, there you go. Have you ever met somebody who can't feel temperature? Have you ever met someone who can't stand up because they don't have any balance? No ever So many who's lost their sense of balance like other than that they're totally physically fine But they can't they don't have a sense of balance and it's gone and so what do they do? Mechanics dollars and just roll If your inner ear gets fucked up you like you lose your you can't you can't balance very well I think this is what I think we're getting at I think this whoever did this fucking study whatever

I think they blurred the line between a sense and Nability because somebody has an extraordinary ability of good balance and you can have a poor balance But that's not a sense. That's not a sense. All right shut your eyes. Go ahead touch your knee Okay, that's the other thing sense. That's not a sense. All right, shut your eyes. Go ahead. Touch your knee. Okay, that's the other thing, too. He didn't do it. No, so he's avoiding it. That's the other thing.

That's the other thing, too, is that I was thinking about when we were talking about this last week, is that if it was an independent sense, how does sight help my balance? Because it does. If I shut my eyes, it's harder to balance if something's moving, then if I can just see visual cues, it's easier. All your senses work together. Oh, you're telling me sight helps me with my hearing or my smell? If I can see something, I can smell it stronger? No, no, seeing something makes the smell connect to the memory of that thing quicker. If you identify it, it doesn't smell stronger because I can see it.

No, but you use both to get to the same conclusion to the got the conclusion fast, right? But they don't augment each other they work independently There's a difference between I get what you're saying Gavin I get what you're saying, but I think there's a difference between your sense of smell and your recognition of a smell those are two different things Like if I smelled something Super like a durian fruit, I never smelled it before. A what fruit? A durian. Is that what it's called? It's called durian. What's it called? I have no idea. It's called durian. Why are you laughing? I never heard of it before.

It's funny. So like if you smell a durian and you're like, you think smells like shit. Smells terrible because it's a horrible smelling fruit. But you've never smelled a durian before. You wouldn't recognize that it's a durian, but you'd still be smelling it at the same level because your sense of smell is independent of everything else. Yeah. And if you saw it, you wouldn't go, all the smells were worse because I could see it. I have no idea how this doesn't, how this means gravity, sense of gravity isn't the sense of it.

I think sense is like when they identified the five senses in a person, these are five and you know anything, if you are in freeful, go ahead. With no other senses senses you would know you don't hear or see I was about to get a death blind yeah you would know what I'm saying what I'm saying is that I believe that you can feel gravity I believe that you can but I think that's a sort of sense of touch overall that you don't touch any you feel the weight of gravity on you You are you are it's the force of the earth on you. That's what you're feeling

But if I take your shoulders and I push them down is that a sense of shoulders? I mean is that But it's because it's the same thing. It's just a physical thing me doing it or that your sense of touch You know what I'm saying? If I grab your shoulders, I push you down. What is that sense? It doesn't become a sense. Kevin's like, you've answered your own question.

His shoulders. No. The sense of shoulder pressure. The sense of pressure is one. Okay, your sense of pressure is one. To me, that's just touch as well, because that's pressure pushing on your body. And it's like pushing here. Once again, if I put you in,

so you said the inside of your ear is touch. Inside of my ear is touch. That's hearing. Are you talking about singing on the way down there? Well, like you can feel pressure in your ears first. It's where you feel pressure. Yeah, why don't you have a sense of touch in your ears? Do you just associate touch with your fingertips?

No, I'm, you got another sponsor or anything? All right, all right. But my point of which I'm gonna make is that people will always cite things on the internet and look, he's absolutely right. That's the sense. I just don't agree. I simply don't agree.

And I don't think it makes you right or makes me wrong or me right and you wrong. All it probably does. But I just don't agree with those people who say that. I think there's five. Do you agree with the shape of the earth? Yeah. Why?

Because a shape is a geometric. It's a mathematical fact. Why are you asking that? Do you not agree with the shape of the earth? No, it's not necessarily like why you fear is not an abstract concept. A sense is something that's made up. Everything's made up. It's all just saying, like, why you- Spear is not an abstract concept. A sense is something that's made up. Everything's made up. It's all the brain anyway.

It's all the brain. It's all the brain. I mean, I'm gonna go for a college degree and have a good day, one of a shop, it's all the brain. I'm gonna go, fuck. Well, I think you just became Carl Pilkington. I think I'm the most Carl Pilkington thing you've ever said in your life.

I don't remember what we probably have talked about since the podcast, we're talking about everything. But I learned that based on its size, that the earth is smoother than a cue ball. Yeah, it's a pool table. That if you shrunk the earth down to the sides of a pool ball, that it would have less variation in surface than the average billiard ball, essentially. It'd than the average billier ball essentially it'd be dense what's that it'd be dense yes it would

be dense totally you think you could only live on god pool table any other pool table it would crush it it would have a serious sense of pressure going on I love you Gavin did you hear about that that girl from the Netherlands who over the weekend tweeted threats to American Airlines? I was talking to American Airlines and Twitter just like fucking around with them and I heard about that afterwards. I got worried about it. Yeah.

She got fucking arrested. Well, she's just threats. She got arrested. Yeah. Well, it's so, it's alright. Tell me. She tweeted that American Airlines something like my name is Ibrahim. I'm from Ascana Stan.

I'm in Alcada. We're going to give you a big surprise on June 1st. Oh fuck. Oh, they were five scary men. They were five something like we take all through it very seriously. We reported you this message on your IP address to the FBI. She tweeted that on Sunday and then on Monday I'm fucking arrested. She did a bunch of tweets after that say sorry which she was. And the last tweet was I blocked the FBI just to be sure She kept she's obviously a little kid right like like not fully understanding what she's doing

But she once again somebody fucking up in a way that a lot of people have fucked up before but she's gonna get held to this like Global standard now where she's the example by which we hold everyone so she was saying things like I'm really a Retrieved really scared. I don't know what to do and this stuff like oh my god. I just gained three thousand followers from this Also, I'm and it's like I'm reading between like reading it and reveling in it So she actually got arrested. Yeah, she was like oh my parents find out I'm gonna be in so much trouble Merck and airlines like give us a follow-up Friday So to Merck and airlines have the IP

Hello, my name is Ibrahim, but the actual user account is Queen Dimitri The name Sarah should even think to change that Yeah, it's not the sharpest told me said Everybody's done something dumb right but though for she 14 she's 14 that's so stupid So stupid, but she's 14 years She wants to dumb shit when you're 14. Yeah, yeah, I mean to an extent I ever did you ever friend who called 999 at one point and hang up and did know they traced the call No, my friends little sister did that she called 911. She's like we're getting robbed hot and then how you up in the fucking cops show over her house

Oh my god, it was a big deal. I have to pay for that if the club show I don't know how that worked out exactly. I don't they was you know Kid it was always don't fuck around kid, but it's kids by steer chill. It's a cop show up. You know what I mean? Kids don't kids don't understand consequences. I mean I was smarter than that at 14. I would know that but Yeah, I was on the internet at 14. It's gonna be poor and all day long. Yeah fucking Twitter. I would not have used Twitter at all It was a 14 year old porn. You would have done porn 24 hours a day. 24 hours a day. If I'm on the computer at 14, yeah.

Teenage boys are fucking disgusting. You guys know what I'm talking about. And then, yeah. Listen, I, you ever go through like just our curiosity, see like, I didn't see like, man, this is when I know it follows 900 people. It's like who the hell do they follow? It's a weird thing that you can see on Twitter you can actually go through and see who other people follow

and also you can also see in what order they followed people. Yeah. Which is its own interesting concept. And that was the thing that we had on our site for ages and we've always kept that secret like you can't see who watches who on our site. You can't see who you're watching which is what we call following essentially. Yeah. You can see who you're watching. You can see who you're watching. You can't see who you was watching. Yeah. And we had a view log where we just made it easy to find the public information like, oh,

Gavino made a post in the Slamo forum, you know, or commented on this or commented on this, like public stuff that you could find anyway. Just we just made a place where you could find it all. Remember how people got upset when we made that available? People lost their shit over there. They said it was gonna encourage east stocking is what they called it at the time. Even though you could just search it anyway. Remember how people got upset when we made that people lost their shit over there. They said it was going to encourage each stocking is what they called it. Even though you could just search it anyway. Right. We did it with all the

public stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm always surprised when I like people I know the number of people who follow porn stars on Twitter and Vine. It's just like just like in the it's funny because it's like all their friend from work, all the friend from the bar, you know, guys we know different companies, 18 porn stars in a row. And then it's like random. The old, who else you should follow, thing, very useful.

It really is. Once you find one of them and you click, click, click, click, click. Yeah, look at the thumbnail pick. Okay. All right. I'm interested in that. I'm interested in these products and services. I will, what will happen to Abraham?

I don't know. I don't know, actually. Oh, Sarah Bram. I mean, she got arrested. So I had to probably just, yeah, she got arrested in Netherlands. That's not, I'm gonna get another beer. They're probably gonna deliver to her to like three joints a day. And maybe only half on the weekend.

It's hard when you're in teenager. Yeah, I got big Bernie Dick right. And the lens. So speaking of Dick, you were telling a story about before we started the podcast. Yeah, it was. I had to go to the doctor today and I had to do a urine test while I was there. Predominant.

And well, we'll see. I had to do a urine test while I was there. I've never been in position where I had to do a urine test and I didn't have to pee. And I've never felt more pressured by a little little bit lady before in my entire life. Like, I don't know, I'm talking about that because I did it right before work and I was like, okay, cool, talk to the dog, everything's good. She's like, oh, by the way, do this drug test thing.

I was like, oh yeah, cool, it'll just take two seconds. You're gonna have to pee in the scup. Mm, I went before I got here, but okay, sure, I'll give it a shot. And then to add on to which it goes and you're gonna need to do it. All the way up to here, I'm like, I do I need to or is it encourage that? Feeling of peeing when you don't need to pee. It's not pleasant

I didn't think I was doing but I believe that I will do like refocus all of the sweat I had to hold down here's it's like concentrate hold my hands up spirit bomb style I went above a me on to I went above the line. Thank you very much So you had a man over a cheever you had someone you're glad that you just didn't really I just had to go searching for it deep inside somehow I just like an sense of touch so it's all the brain it's all the brain anyway so there was I didn't have to pee I just brained and then I could get a sense of pressure yeah just pico old yeah yeah yeah I've got a little bit more old.

I've got a story about this. I was thinking like he's just like pissing a cup. I just wanted to see what it was. Seven or something. I think it's putting a microwave. When you do like a testing like that, they try to make sure that you don't bring in outside piss. One year I was taking chemistry in high school.

I think I was in 10th or 11th grade and like for our chemistry class we did like basic rudimentary analysis on ourselves and so we had to like bring in urine samples and we'd like boil it or whatever. Dude, they did that today they would shut down the fucking school. They did that when I was in school. You brought in your own piss? Yeah. It wasn't in my class but they did it.

They did a urine test to a, in like the upper level. What do you test for? I don't remember. I'm sorry. I was like, hey I got. I'm in the early morning. I picked the problem with the test though is we did it the week before spring break. So we finished all the tests and everything and I was like, cool. I put my leftover piss in my like drawer with my supplies and locked it and then went on spring break. Then like was out of the, the, I was out of school for the whole week, came back that next Monday after the break,

opened up my drawer and it was the most foul cup of old piss I've ever you like compared to the other I have seen some cups it had shit growing in it it was that's all the world and so I went to go throw it out and I opened it why did you do that because I was going to just dump it out in the sink Not an open it like instantly people started running out of the God I hate these stories when you guys tell them. It's my favorite. It's like ship floating in it. It's absolutely disgusting.

Oh. It's a long story short. If you're going to spring break through your PC way. Remember kids can't have stale piss lie about it. Not going to have any of that, right, Bernie? It reminds me of a story that's making me think about it go on which is I tweaked a tweet that I wrote journal about this on the Rootie site I get really excited you guys did not watch you guys

ever watch the Romero zombie films yeah yeah you're watch day of the dead I think I don't think so okay I lived in no wait is that the one off the door't of the dead? Yeah It's the third one. Yeah, well it's a third one, but then there's they made ones way way later later like the Millicid dead, whereas it gets like pulled off isn't it yeah, yeah That's in a second. That's what I was getting towards is that that That's seen but I

It's really gross to begin with but in walking dead but uh... it's really gross to begin with but uh... in walking dead uh... the tv show that's on the mc they just recently did the most amazing thing because uh... they put a cameo in walking dead they put a cameo zombie a celebrity zombie in they put the pubs the zombie above the zombie from day of the dead the smart zombie the smart zombie they put

him in the zoom one of the crowd's zombies the actual actor i don't think it was the actual actor but they put the collar on his neck and everything they dressed in the same clothes and everything And it's like he was on screen for like two seconds. I was like That was Bob. I was like that was like and I totally caught it actually. It's a really weird They did a reference that obscure and then I caught it and I made a journal about that But your story is what I was thinking of when when you when you start telling that was in the behind the scenes of Day of the Dead, they talked about how they had to the scene this could get pre gross here, where the zombies get in, they like pull

this one to the part they pull out his guts. And the way that they the way that they try to fake that was they try to come with like like they make it like Tom Savini was like the visual The way that they tried to fake that was a truck. They made it like Tom Savini was the visual effects guy back then with Romero. I don't know if he worked on that, but he was one of the famous ones that worked on it. They couldn't fake it very well. So they actually went out and found a place that would sell them a butcher that would sell them pig entrails. Like actually went testons.

So they do that. But there was some kind of thing where they did that and there was a they kept in this refrigerator And then they moved to a different set for like four or five days. Oh God and then they came back But they realized when they left a set somebody just to save money cut the power So the ball The bucket of big entrails sat in a fridge that then powered down and cooled down and like turned to all like a hot box I feel sorry for whoever opened that and they opened it and said it was the most disgusting the ever because they were so low on money.

No, they couldn't like throw them away. They had to use them in the scene. And the extras are like, what? What? What? What? What?

What? What? So some pretzels on these guys. What? They would go like, they'd be like, So I put you somebody's like Like maybe like Just like keep roll say they were so low on money, but they could still spend it to keep the cameras rolling Yeah, I guess they were that tight like they think it was to go get them They were gonna have to burn a day or two which is a lot of money on a movie set

And they may literally made the discovery when they needed to pick and trace and they were just like The moaning is really loud and oh So gross so gross Fucking awful. Yeah, I think it's other behind the scenes for day of the day So that's gotta be like the the worst casting caliber could be an extra in a movie Right, it's like you're gonna be a zombie. You need to play with rotten pig guts. Oh, and apparently those Might have been the same one, but those those anytime you got like a mass amount of people and you got to put prosthetic makeup on them And a lot of makeup just turns into like a like a mass production line

You know what I mean? We're just like moving people through and you know, like mass assembly? Like assembly line. Assembly line, yeah, you're doing that stuff and you put it on. But then at the end of the day, after eight hours, they were pulling these things off and like the glue they used to make sure they looked good all day.

That like people are passing out from the pain of like pulling off the appliances at the end of the day. It was like a regular thing that people would pass out doing it. Just put the big bucks, it's next to the unconscious window. When you wake right back up, I really love the Romero zombie stuff. It's good. You love slow zombies?

Absolutely. Absolutely. I do too. It's like, it's the best form. Do you watch Walking Dead? No. Okay. Is that slow zombies? Yeah.

It's all, it's like, I'll give it a go. Yeah. The graphic novel is basically just like, have you played the Walking Dead games? Yeah. I've played it's like I'll give it a go. Yeah, the graphic novels basically just have you played the walking dead games? Yeah, I've played it up to season two upside-down. Yeah, you say no slow Yeah, I mean I didn't Don't have to show us any different. Oh true. That's true. Fair play I rise in the game. Oh, I was just a bit of a swig there. I didn't rise in the game that it's not just on me in fact to people that turn to zombies What do you mean if you die you just turn into a zombie.

In what? In the walking dead? Yeah. That's pretty much the way it is. No, it's pretty much the way it is in every zombie. I know. If you die of natural causes in a zombie world, you don't turn into a zombie. I've seen so many scenarios do that.

Of course, it's like a virus or a bacteria that affects the TV show. If you die, you know, I don't watch TV show. In walking dead, this is a little bit of a very high level for the world spoiler. There you go. The discovered season one or like graphic novel book one, is that everyone is infected and just like getting bit by zombie kills you. And then, but if you die, you turn, you have to kill a dead person. Yeah, yeah You have to shoot him in the head or whatever way from the turn do it, but the thing is is like

You know, I know that that's the case because all the dead rows up in every zombie apocalypse. They're all the dead rows up So that something must have triggered them to turn into zombies Okay, that's that's an excellent point. Yeah, wait. How does the zombie apocalypse start if the dead don't just naturally That's an excellent point. Yeah, wait, how does the zombie apocalypse start if the dead don't just naturally In all the pants and if you're talking about like if it's a virus contagion or if it's the when there's no more room in hell If not every zombie writes us are cast if it's like a favorite version of it If it's like a 28 days later style thing where it's a virus it starts with like a patient zero and that person spreads it Yeah, and all the fact you burn 20 days later in the zombie discussion is gonna you will fuck And all the fact that you brought in 20 days later in the zombie discussion is gonna get you a fuck

I know it's the rage virus Living right let's go and say left for dead zombie game too while you're at it. Yeah anyway Hey, I like zombies like anyone else Marrow and you just die of starvation or whatever you state that here's the problem. Here's the problem probably maybe But in the movies this that way, but no see when you watch zombie movies nobody dies of a heart attack I mean you be shitty like oh just so happens this guy died of a heart attack in a day of the dead movie They all get bit by zombies. I mean that's part of the movie. I mean it's like that's the threat of the world I've never seen a zombie movie where somebody died of old age or natural causes. I was thought that the fire spread that into in Walking dead season one isn't there a character who has a hard attack

and in the walking dead is there is and there's a starved character too that's that's a really crazy moment in the video game but in walking dead they explicitly say that it you know it's a if you die you have the virus in you right yeah even if you die of natural cars it's really good if like a survivor shoots another survivor. But in other things like in show to the dead, if you're dead and you get bitten by zombies, you don't reanimate because your blood stopped moving. So it can't pass the virus around the body. What was the moment in show to the dead where they revealed that fact? Yeah, I don't remember that kind of the dead either. Yeah, why would you say

that? I really like show to the dead. But nobody in Sean of the dead died of natural causes. They get bitten, then they come back. Yeah. Some people at dead. So their sex of death was great. So what was the moment, what, what, what, what did you see? Maybe you saw an interview with Simon Pegg where you said that. Maybe.

Oh, commentary. That's just like four different. Oh, we just gave it a follow-course. You always get this look. His father's is my brain. I like find a path to information. And then my brain severs the path, but it keeps the information. So it's like useless little blobs of disconnected information. It's your sense of mental direction.

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It's like this website is secure. Well, that information is transmitted securely using a protocol called SSL. It's like secure sockets layer. So it's like no one can see what information you're sending. One of the popular ways to create SSL sessions is with a piece of software called Open SSL. This isn't anything you run into computer probably. It's like the server you log into run this. Well, there's a bin a bug in OpenSSL for like two years that allows a third party to intercept the data that's supposedly secure and steal information and that bug is called Heartbleed. So there's been a lot of rumors about it. Rue should hit luckily, we were fine. I think the day after

the Heartbleed bug was announced, we were already patched against it, like before it even hit the news. We were already secure. We had some middleing internal service stuff to clean up that took a little longer, but it's fine, we're protected against it. But people are curious now. They said, you know, this bug's been out in the wild for two years. Some people are saying, did the NSA know about it and have they been exploiting it in order to steal people's information since they could eavesdrop on supposedly secure conversations? The thing about OpenSSL is it's an open piece of software. It's like an open source thing where people can contribute to it.

What I wonder is did the NSA code in the bug themselves? Not tell anyone and then just let it sit there so they could then exploit it and get everyone's information. Why do they even need to do that, though? Why do they need to listen to all of our phone calls and steal all my fucking texts? That's how they get off. You know, I think they're doing it. I think, you know, we talked about this with the point thing.

I think there's archive all its stuff in case they need it. I mean, I think it's a political advantage where they just archive everything and they can archive it. Then if Gavin gets to be a prominent political figure, they can just go through and search other stuff. That's where I think. I don't either actually look into any of that stuff. I don't think the processing in any way.

I think there's archive in all cases. And you do. It's just too much data to look at it once. So if you could pay a thousand bucks for your history, just to be wiped from all those thousand bucks, Don, you would do it. Well, there's the, what's the, the Nixon act, the freedom of information?

Freedom of information. You can actually, you're supposed to go to the right and find out everything they have on you I think they're not for 25 years. There's there's a public record like that's for like their activities But there's what you're supposed to be able to see what they have on you I think so and I want to say I think they denied Angela Merkel access to look at her own file Yeah, the the prime minister of Germany Freedom of information act. Yeah, They would not disclose the information they had

on her. They fucked up. Yeah, this is like a great investor. Or a leader who's supposedly one of our biggest allies who's like one who is the biggest financial power. Sorry. In Europe. What can you go on this planet? People in Twitter are equating the NSA to people on steam. Just like, I'll get this in case I need it. It's like you never know. It's a steam sale. I can get Bernie Burnt for $3.99. I'll probably never look at it. It's sure you never know. I make a board one Sunday. But it's one of those things like if somebody does rise, like if you know, just like for instance Obama's

Burnt certificate, we can such a big fucking deal, big deal. And imagine if they had an archive of like all those personal conversations at college, Jesus. I would not want that. You're age, you have probably half of your life is probably fucking archive at this point. Yeah, somewhere. And if they're not doing it, the best thing is,

you're doing it yourself. Like you're putting all that stuff out there. Everyone is, you know. I heard on, when I went to pick up the pizza earlier, I was listening to NPR and they said that in order to better target people for audits, the IRS is now scraping information off of social media, like Facebook and Twitter. Well, people bragging about money. Bragging about trips and stuff that they bought. It's like if you are reporting low income, you know, how is it that you were able to take this trip

or buy this car or do these things? Interesting. So now it's like... So they've automated processes to try to scrape all of that information and tie it to individuals' accounts so that they can develop a profile as to whether or not you're potentially a tax cheat and they need to further investigate your tax returns.

I'm imagining all those people that like Photoshop themselves and they're really cool. It's like you were hanging out with Brad Pitt and Egypt. What's up with that? Oh, leaning in the pants apart. I like that you put together Brad Pitt and Egypt as like the ultimate extravagant.

I was like, I was like, I'm not gonna lose the liberty. Quick, what's a place? What's a place? What is the joke? I love the miles like when I camel But they're right by the period I'm doing the post for you

With that include stuff behind the friend wall like no supposedly they're only doing the stuff that's publicly view I had a great what's your friends with the IRS? Yeah, no one no friend I had a great link shop on Facebook it said Here's a good link to help you trim down some of your friends if you've got too many and you click it and all it does is Search your friends for people who like nickel back And you can just remove them there was a promotion. I thought that was really good. What's wrong with nickel back by the way It's just an idea thing. It's what's like a lasting stop man, isn't it? Is it? I mean, I think so and stuff. This is a lot of shitty bands. I always wondered how Nico back just got like

coined with that. Like why was it Metallica? Because they actually went after the internet at one point. Metallica. Now listen Metallica fans, Metallica's great band, they fuck a rock hard and everybody. Clown,

Clown, Clown, Hey, deep go to Congress. And eventually that's the password to get into a concert. So that's the dude. But no, they went to Congress, they were complaining about MP3s and all that stuff.

Which I think was totally legitimate to do. And I think the rest of the music industry was like, let's see how this goes for them. And it didn't work out very well. But they kind of, they then completely turned that ship around. Metallica could have gone down in flames because they were trying to take on piracy when nobody else was.

Yeah, they tried to go up against an appster. And there were all those like satirical flash animations made about they're making fun of them. Yeah Yeah, but yeah also did you hear the strategy that got it was a smaller group I want to say it was like iron maiden or quiet riots like a band that hasn't made stood the test time The way quite the way Metallica has but and so they were using piracy they would track all the torrents and they would see where they were being downloaded the most and they would plan all their concerts there and they made a fucking bundle doing that that's a great

strategy that's really funny and how do these old rockers how do they figure that out to do that it's brilliant I'm sure the other got someone on their market team was like well just go there yeah you can download that everybody like in the summer about set of Berlin is downloading your music let's go hold a concert I'd go and they'd fucking sell out so I was like, let's just go there. Yeah, you can download that. Everybody in the summer about Saturday, Berlin is downloading your music. Let's go hold a concert. I'd go and they'd fucking sell out. It just sounds like an idea that an old Rucker would have though. Yeah, it's not a real, it's not a techy idea.

Actually, it's like an internet to him for 30 minutes. Yeah. Well, it was his love. Let me look up and see who did that. I'm like, I'm getting a whole lot of records of British free. Oh, obviously. Absolutely.

They're all a spinal tap. I'm gonna give them a rocker. They're British free. Oh, obviously. Absolutely. They're all a spinal tap. I, uh, I recently went to go, speaking of music, I went to go see Nico recently to talk, RVB12 stuff. And, yeah, wow, they're just speaking of old rockers. No, I was just speaking of music. Oh, wow.

You know, Nico, I love to see you. I, no, I went to go see Nico and he told me the story. I love, he, uh, he used to work Nico and he told me this story. I loved he He used to work with this guy that was like super super conservative Christian Republican like Everything super right wing and really nice guy though loved him to death and they worked really closely in an office together something And Nico was working really hard on night fuck something up and gets incredibly mad and shout Jesus Christ almighty Oh, and immediately incredibly mad and shout, Jesus Christ almighty! And immediately stops himself, and he turns around and the dude's sitting there,

and he's just staring at him with a smile, and he goes, that's right, he is almighty. That was like the best thing I'd ever heard. Like, you know, you've been in those situations where you fucked up real bad. You said something absolutely shouldn't have said

and they just go along with it, and it's great. It's like, you know, saying, so, oh, when are you expecting? I'm not actually pregnant, but I do have a food, baby. It's like, thank you for not fucking crucifying me. Yeah. The, uh, my favorite, like, my favorite story that regard is, was Jack told the story,

but the worst first day job story ever, when he got a job at a radio station and he dumped a glass of water into an $85,000 mixing board. I thought it was coffee. There's a cup of coffee. It was coffee. It was something to try. Yeah, for sure. For sure. That's it.

The microphone. That's why he doesn't drink coffee now. Scarlett, you just like that's it. Yeah, you're fine. Coffee, you and me are done professionally. So Bernie, someone on Twitter, IDK Blue was saying it was Iron Maiden. It is Iron Maiden. I got it right the first time.

So, yeah, was it? And they were from the UK. Famous heavy metal band from the United Kingdom using online metrics to identify fans that download its music but the group isn't taking the data to file a lawsuit against those fans instead it's using the information performed concerts for them. What do I love? What's this now? Well they download a little something, right? Well, they're done with a little something, right? Yeah. Hey, what, you guys hear about the, the flap about James Franco and the Instagram user? Yeah.

Wait, what? Yeah, he was trying to tag like a 17 year old English kid or something. Right. Who was in New York for her 18th birthday. Yeah. And like her early, like early 18th birthday. And they took a photo together and he said, I'm just all from memory here and totally paraphrasing. But he said I'm just all from memory here and totally paraphrasing but

He said tag me on Instagram. She did and then he started the conversation with her because she tagged him Yeah, that's right, Mestice and then of course she posted all of that stuff So wait a minute for every other girl 17 year old bitch 18 18 How many other girls I could have hooked up with James Franco, but now he's gonna be gun shy Because she fucking spilled the beans. He told you don't know you're not happy because she didn't break the law.

No, it's not like it's well first of all it's listen, no one's gonna argue. It's not weirdly creepy 35 to 17 to big gap, but it's it wasn't illegal. It wasn't even legal by UK standards. Was it? I thought you have to be 18. In New York. I don't know. I don't know. We're not those guys.

No, it's 16 in the UK. I think they were very clear to say he didn't break him. You laws, right. I don't know. We're not those guys. We're not those guys. It's 16 in the UK. I think they were very clear to say he didn't break him. He laws. Right. But he just like, sorry for him. How does he know? Yeah.

He's a celebrity. Yeah, he doesn't necessarily know how old she is. Yeah, I have no idea. And he's like, do you have a boyfriend? She goes, not while you're around. So that's like, all right, we're on a pathway here. Things are going okay. And then it's like, I guess the fourth or fifth suite,

he got to read in the New York post Yeah, I hope so she stopped replying and she was she was kind of mean about it like I just rejected James Frank Yeah, that's what happened He showed up on this sour guys over here He showed up on SNL like even making fun of it like he did a walk on when it's broken hosted the on Saturday I like it. Yeah, yeah, you gotta make one yourself. This like that's just like you know I mean what can you what can you do? I mean that's one of the on Saturday. I like it. Yeah. You got to make one yourself. That's just like, you know, I mean, what can you do? I mean, that's one of the major pitfalls of social media.

Is it anything in becaoping and pasted anywhere else? Like, there have been people that like girls that accidentally tweet nude photos like celebrities like, oh no, my cat was hacked. And then there's the other celebrities that are like, okay, and oops. They just went up to like, well, those were my tits. I appreciate that. Who did, I think Kat Dennings did that.

She was like, well I just posted myself naked. Who, who was it that did that? That was an over-remembered response. And James Franker's response was, yeah, I probably shouldn't have flirted over social media. I should know better than that. I mean, he totally owned up to it and everything, you know. I'm sure if it had been an actual illegal thing,

and he might have been a little more careful about it, but at least he owned it, you know. So I guess I didn't work out with Daenerys Tog area what does that mean what they do in it I don't know I don't know I would know more about it than I did I didn't know anything you knew the most apparently is that thing anyone else in the room anyone yeah no one is fun no one knows. I keep reading it up. We should mention those tumblers. Oh yeah.

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There's tumblers. There's tumblers. There's tumblers. There's tumblers. it's worth it. He just wants to give you the achievement 101. I'm giving it to you. I'm not gonna give it. Are these clean? I'll put my beer in here. It's still good. I'll drink my beer on the store. Oh, I smell gross. I'm kidding. It doesn't smell like piss. They're clean. I'm being told in my ear that they're clean. I'll drink my next beer out of this. When you get something from the store, do you always wash it to like a lot?

Absolutely. I add me to it. Absolutely. I'm a fucking note about it. I have to. Hello Ruby Cup, huh? Yeah. Give me the Rookie's one. You said you said you wash it also. You know, it's driving me as a kind of person who would be like careful about that or want to wash it. No, that I'm weird in that regard. Like my job's some of the floor and I give a shit.

But if it's like been exposed to people, then I'm weird about it. Like I always think about that about the mini bar in a hotel. It's like, there's people alone in the room with that mini bar food, you know, for several days, like many people checking in and out. And I just think people are, no, I'm saying it's like you just don't know. You know what I mean?

You don't know what's going on in that hotel room when you're not there. The last time I was in Vegas, I, so weird thing if you think about it. Is it? It is a little bit. It's a little bit worse. So it's weird. The last time I was in Vegas, I checked in my room and there were two fridges. There's like the mini bar fridge and there was another fridge where you could put your own stuff.

And I had a bottle of water that I had after the player was like, okay cool, I'm gonna put this in the mini fridge and it'll be cold and I'll drink it later. I opened up the mini fridge and it was filled with it was filled with Reese's peanut butter cups, cheerios, fucking score. And so I think it was Pepsi. It was like, did they not clean this place out? Like, do they not clean the fridge out? Cheerio. They left it for you.

Yeah, Cheerio's wearing the fridge. What kind of weirdos were in the fridge before me? You know something I can't do that, I see people do it. I could never eat candy and drink soda at the same time. That's like, it's just too much. You're just not trying hard enough. No, it's too much. It's too much. Do you have a bad That's like, it's just too much. You're just not trying hard enough. No, it's too much. It's too much.

Do you have a bad experience? No, it's just like, that's like, it's a lot of sugar. I feel like if you're eating candy, then it like throws off the taste of the soda. Like the soda just tastes weird because you're already eating something that's super sweet. I get that.

Yeah, it's just, it doesn't taste right. Just don't do either. Yeah. I'll tell you what I do, guys, it drives me crazy. When I buy anything new, and I wish this would stop, and I'm proud to say, does not exist on this product, and I'll make sure I'm gonna go and see if we're doing this with these things.

I fucking hate stickers on stuff now. They put stickers on everything, and it seems like everybody uses the cheapest possible sticker they can get. They'll make a nice product, and then they'll get the half-a-cent sticker in jammed on there, it's when you peel it, the paper comes off, and the fucking glue circle stays right there. And then if you got for me, and then they'll get the half a cent sticker and jam it on there It's when you peel it the paper comes off and the fucking glue circle stays right there And then if God forbid you put it in the fucking dishwasher before you get the sticker off of it because then it's there for life

Don't you think there are more important things in life to worry about? I was Infuriating I suppose that stickers are I hate stickers. I can't tell you how much I hate stickers Right, but also you could do this. Oh, Nope, I can't do it. I don't know when you touch it when your sense of touch interacts with it and it's different. Fuck no, I don't think when I get games and it's covering up the pretty box art. I really like box art. I like I like owning games. It's like my library of games I can look at and then they got nasty game stop stickers. Wait a time. People buy me a very man on Twitter right now. I'm like it.

I'm not more than a stop reading. I'm pretty either they're mad on Twitter arguing about the census thing But somebody put it somebody put the argument more concisely than I was able to which it was like he that we're all Confusing sense with sensation and we think that's what is like sensations are not Senses that your sense of touch gives you a sensation of gravity and a sensation of temperature But those are not innate senses themselves. That's it. And people are saying, your argument with science, your people have studied this for years. And my argument is, a scent is not a finite concrete thing. It is an abstract concept that we define things as senses. What's the point of it?

I can say, okay, I have a sense of hair. Like, I know that I have hair. So I have a sense of hair. It's an abstract. You're setting boundaries for something where there's no concrete evidence for it. It's like we made up the thing called a sense. We didn't make up a thing called a sphere. We identified those things in the in the universe called spheres and we studied them. A sense is not a is not a thing. It's not like to say in your hand, this doing your brain up and that's it's like this. Yeah, so what I have sense of finger is what I'm saying a sense it's self to define something It's a sense is the category that this is a sense and this is not that is the abstract part I'm not saying the sense of touches abstract you have a sense of touch I was saying calling it a sense and that this is a sense and this is not a sense, you know like sense of walking

You know sense of movement sense of balance It's like you can just name every sensation you have and call it a sense If that's a slippery slope look in in the movies the Avengers are made up of Tony star captain America the Hulk And a few other people, but you know in some comic books There's an extended universe sometimes that includes Spider-Man Wolverine. I think we're just arguing semantics here's going Yeah, it is semantics interest It's out there forgot for me We argued semantics on the Rooster Podcast miles. I like it about that.'m not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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this point. It's it's the alien from alien bleeds on Superman. Does it melt him? No, because he's got that radioactive bullshit from the sun. What if he's not in the sun though? What if he's on the alien planet? Well, you know, you got to read the book to find out. They have Batman versus aliens too. Get them. Get them soups. Don't fucking take that. The crazy thing is, I can actually have a justification for that, because if like, it was at Jarell, is his father, he's programming the thing to go to Earth.

I mean, a tough calculation. What if we fucking missed Earth and went to the alien planet and landed there instead? As a baby? Yeah. That's fucked up. And the alien's raising his whole- Mama, dad, I'm just going. I'm going to have to end this Superman story. Yeah, that's fucked up And the aliens raised me

Like those aliens are called aliens. You know, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're like, they're just a Superman, Xenomorphs. That's a Superman alien. Because aliens is live, it has to be a giant. It doesn't even say verses, it doesn't say, and it's a Superman alien. Oh, yeah. What if, I really, what if we boil it down, isn't that comic alien versus aliens? I think that's super man's an alien. What if Superman, what if if like what if the Kryptonians weren't like humanoid at all?

What if they look like a xenomorph? What if it was sent? It was sent to earth to save what? That's the twist the alien is really Superman Superman is the alien Fucking up their world. Yeah, it's like the alien has to come and save us from Superman That was Jurelle. So like you know how you, the aliens give birth by like they implant the egg into your stomach and then they chest burst out. Classic row. Yeah, it's great.

If that happened to Superman, like if Superman got a face hugger on him, would that alien just be trapped inside of them until it's so big? Because it wasn't strong enough to break out. And then he just gets really bad into just. And then that's the end of it. That's the end of it. That's the way that's the way. Keep waiting up after eating a smith and waltz and see.'s like, lays down the tile of a bathroom floor for a bit.

He gets in the tub. To her tumble water. Just lays there. Roll credit. Speaking of those alien eggs, Griffin just carved one out of wood. That was incredible. It's not in your stomach either. It's in your chest.

I don't know. I'm sure it says exactly what it is. Because down he throws it doesn't not in your stomach either. It's in your chest Downy throat doesn't it? Yeah, I think it's your chest cavity though. I think it's where it goes travels through your throat So your throat leads to like in the movie it like bursts out of the chest No, it doesn't burst out of the chest, but it's like when so go on you we've heard Boiler had one in her they should like wrapped her under heart and stuff wasn't it? I mean, no shit, but it wouldn't make sense because when you don't get, you're able to walk around like you can walk around not knowing you have one in you.

Yeah. And it seems like if you had a puncture in your teeth. You've got a few hours. Yeah. Or I think it varies depending on where it should ever find you. They also said the face hug couldn't be removed without injuring the. Yeah. It tightens around your neck.

It's cheap. Of all the things in like alien movies or anything like that, I would least want to experience that moment of a facehugger grabbing my face shoving its appendage down my throat and like that would be That would be pretty rough That would be pretty rough. There's no I wouldn't throw up all over that little face Who designed that like somebody had to sit down and like think of that?

There was some post on Reddit about the guy that did a lot of the art on Alien was a guy I don't remember I just remember the post is about how fucking creeped out the Haskell is live the right was Ed O'Bannon. He was an Ed O'Bannon or Dan O'Bannon the brothers I watched just one of them died in the guy got a guy or did the alien design I'm He did the character design. I don't know if we did like the mechanics of like the gestation period in the life cycle of this How do how do those aliens exist if there's no other creatures? What do you mean? Cause they need to lay eggs out. Cause a person will get all what come creatures. It doesn't have a mouth. Well, I think

they wipe out everything. So they take over the population, they use whatever it is, and they go into this dormant stage, which is how they get found in the first alien. You're essentially asking what came first to chicken at the egg, right? Yeah. Then they do that in Prometheus. That was the origin of It was Animals on earth that can't live without other animals. They just developed that way oops sorry, yes, Siri, please find that Yeah, I think in Prometheus it was just like finding them and reactivating them from a dormant There was like a black I just came up

Sorry, you're I'm sorry, sir. Whoops, sorry, sir. You know, what everything to do is when you open up your, your, your, not my favorite, but you open up your browser on your phone and it's essentially just a, hey, by the way, this is what you were looking at last. Oh, it's like a, it's sudden a time-wort back to whatever the fuck it was. Yeah, time-wort back to. Well, no, my favorite was like, I, I used my phone for something months go by and then like, oh, let me open up my Safari app. And it was a picture of a pug burying a Batman mask.

And I was suddenly transported back to this place of happiness and remembering conversation I was having. I don't remember it now. On iOS 7, it does keep a lot of old tabs. Yeah, it goes real far back. Did you see that video, someone released where they tried to make the Windows Phone Cortana talk to Siri?

That was a smooth video. That was our city of whole. Our city of whole did that video. Okay. He definitely did a smooth one. There might be another one Go ahead someone like tries to talk and like send a text message and he makes them try to talk to each other Just just stuck in the loop where they get this was obviously a parody like we're trying to have a big attitude and stuff

Oh, no, no, this was like trying to make them talk to each other and have a conversation remember talking Carl Yeah, oh yeah, we talked to a new repeat what you said people two of those together and just said like they started the chain and they started going, Hey Carl, what's up? Hey Carl, what's up? Hey Carl, what's up? And then it was like three back and forth. I was like, There was the best generation loss in that compression.

It was like horrifying. One of the best print calls I ever saw was it was a radio station in San Antonio that they called one Chinese food restaurant And then put them on hold and they called another Chinese food restaurant and then had them talk to each other They're trying to take it the word for each other. Yeah, it was like hey you call a Chinese restaurant now how help you know you call No, no, no, no, no, I'm not doing a racist accent. This is what they fucking sounded like it's not racist That's what a fucking sound like it's racist. you do it. No fucking bring it on in an air But they fucking sound it like we're treating a tumbler for safety

But it was no they just ended up yelling at each other were arguing over who called you It was one of the funniest things I ever heard yeah I'm gonna be the Metallica this podcast Gap it we're leaving this place This is all last. This carpet's got to go. Let me read this. Maybe miles to find a poor immigrant. Take it. Oh, geez. First. No, I don't want to run everyone. This episode of the podcast is also

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I see people in the community saying, oh, I can't believe they're moving to their third office. It's like, nope, number five. Nope. Continue not to believe that. We've been around for a while. Yeah. I just like everyone's like weird nostalgia about it. Oh, last last week in the room.

It's a little we I'm just gonna walk out shrug and never look back. That's what you do with everything though. You you shrug off everything. It's just the brain anyway. Yeah, it's the right. Why dwell in it. Yeah. It's weird. Like one of the first times I met most of the people here was that uh, uh, it was for a school. I was interviewing you for a school thing and you were like I was like hey Can I just have five minutes of your time mr. Burns like I were we just got a new office We're gonna do a barbecue on Friday coming out and that's I interviewed you and then I immediately went to carry because he was the closest person My age yeah, yeah, I was like this skinny punk kid probably hates me, but I close it now. It's kidding.

How long do we go with that? We'll find that. Yeah, so next Monday, the next episode, the ARCHI podcast, will be up there. Not here. Maybe. We'll see. Yeah, it's going to be in time. So we're supposed to be moving in on Monday.

Hopefully we're set up and it's in position to do it pretty much everybody's crossing their fingers and just hoping that God is working the guys got the toughest job is Adam. Yep, uh, for wiring everything that'll be the toughest deal But we'll get it all figured out we always get figured out man He looked like he wanted to do himself in I'll live today. Yeah dude worked hard man He takes everything super super seriously. Yeah, some doesn't work exactly as expected. Every time the, and he's dealing with this whole heart bleed thing, he's working on that tape. You talk a little bit of a heart bleed before. Have you touched specifically about our site and everything?

Yes, they were fine. Okay. Yeah, we were patched before. It hit the mainstream news. Like when it was still just a technical paper, we were already patched up and taken. Yeah, that's not just serious. I saw him today on Reddit, they were saying,

yeah, you should reset your Reddit password, which means not only should you reset your Reddit password, you should reset all your passwords that are the same as your Reddit one. Yeah, but I've got to figure out the bottle before I could call them out on it. And the problem is some sites haven't patched themselves to the point where you can reset your password

where they're still vulnerable. Oh, really? For it's like, you have to check them and make sure that they've taken care of the problem so you can update your password there. Otherwise, you're just giving them the idea. Yeah. Right.

Otherwise, you're just changing it. I've switched over to a password management utility to help me make unique passwords for every website. Well, that's, surely they just need one password and then they put all your passwords. Right. But then you just have to make a unique super secure password for that. What, should you want all of your passwords to be super secure?

Right, but you can make them all super secure you with this utility You know Safari suggested passwords if you had that You'll you'll stop you'll type your username and then Safari will just suggest a little goblin gook But the fact that it's generated by the browser That's kind of boring. I totally agree with you. Yeah, could that. It does like never give a website access to my camera or my camera roll. Never. But surely somewhere in Safari is just a list

of every possible combination of password. So surely someone could take that list. This is probably just generated randomly. Yeah, surely someone could take its parameters for generating that. I just apply it to your account. You can do any like secure thing. Yeah.

Like, surely someone can just apply a code and decrypt your encryption. Yeah, but I'm sure the safari table of passwords is small than the one. It's not a table. It's all the tables. It's a general algorithm that generates a password on a fly. But you're saying you're saying you can take the same algorithm.

You want to make a fucking table. Hey, by the way, I was saying this is a service. It's double-sided. Usually the way that a random function works on a computer is that it does a call to the time and then does some kind of algorithm based on the time. So the time is the random number. And not just like it's 12 o'clock, but like, you know, how many hundreds of a second in a day is it? And that's how it generates its random number. So like there's, you know, in Unix, all of time starts from a single point and the way

it measures times, how many seconds is it from that one point back in the 60s? So it's like a really long string of seconds, really, really long string of numbers. It's just essentially the number of seconds. It's like August 31st, 1970. Why don't we switch to that time? Because it's just a fucking like, you know what? I've always thought about like time zones and stuff the way we have it now it works We just need to give real daylight saving stuff which is so stupid. Well, that's because of the wars in it

What's that war buddy? What were you talking about well, well, too time wars because Do you doctor who the uh, they were wasting there was coal issues on there, so Like people were waking up and the sun was already up and people were staying up after the sun had gone down. So there's wastage of coal. And so they would switch the hours to just, what it was like it was in the old times where to save candles they would do it, but nobody really did it until the war. Like, here's what I've always thought about that time shift that happens.

It's really, I'm in Texas, we don't have the variance in the days that they do in other parts of the country in the world Because we're a little bit like more towards the equator. Yeah more a little bit But I always got the feeling like in the winter it would get or let's go summer in summer We could dark it's a nine o'clock at night Mm-hmm, and it would get light again the sun would come up at about six a.m. in the summer But then I always got the feeling that they just went in like this.

Like it was just, it would get dark, it's sick. From both ends. Yeah. But not that it would shift. Like does it shift like this? Right. Because what does shifting the clock by an hour help? Doesn't that window of daylight just get shorter evenly?

Or does it like rotate across the clock? Do you get what I'm saying there? The day it does get shorter as a whole, but then they can move the bit. They can move the window where you want it. Right, but when I just set the window to the most optimal one, then you leave it there. Why would one be more optimal? The sunrise changes depending on the time of year.

I get the sunrise changes, but also sunset changes in the same way. Doesn't it shrink the day? Or does the day like shift? Because that's what's going on with daylight savings time. Right, well, they move the start of the day earlier because I think that's the ultimate liquid it boils down to They don't care about the end of the day. They care about the start of the day sure So they move the start earlier since there's daylight earlier what I'm saying is if you set that point in the winter

That's the low point of daylight. I so why not just leave it there for the summer to Because then it's like then it's dawn at like four in the morning Right like at 5.30 in the morning. It's just fucking brighter shit And you're like I gotta get the actual difference between the lengths of a day in the UK is is really is like a huge difference Hey, yeah, it's not I don't much but I can win to you get about eight hours of daylight. Yeah, and the on the like 21st of June or whatever you get almost like 17 16 17 hours a day like what's crazy? Yeah, you so far north. It's so far north. You want to change to you next time You'd explain started January 1st 1970 right now is that why when you have a corrupt file?

That's always the day on it. Yeah, right now it is 1 billion 397 million 526,893 So I have to change every fucking second? That's why we don't use this time. That would be tough. That would be tough to tell people. I already forgot the number. Plus, do you know what I'm saying? I say in Austin, it's like two.

I love Austin a lot. I love the attitude of Austin, but one of the place where it's bleeds into that it just kind of drives me crazy long term is that if like you were gonna go in your hoodie and your jeans and you're what do you call those trainers? What do you call it? We would go this.

I call sneakers. Shoes. So, they're gonna go, yeah, but shoes are a real thing and those are fucking child. What's your sense of shoes? He's got rubber soles on them. Like, he's a, they're sneakers. You're wearing sneakers.

Like, miles, you're wearing the same kind of shoes and miles as to me. You wanna hear something interesting? Don't head about converse. Go ahead, right? So converse, if you buy a new pair, you'll notice that around the edge is all fuzz. It's like tiny little hairs in the middle of this grip.

And that's because if you have a shoe with over 50% fuzz, it can be classed as a slipper. And you pay way less import tax on slippers than you do on sneakers. I learned an interesting thing about that too, where someone was telling me that human-based toys pay a higher tariff than do just regular other toys. Like you may have a...

Like a doll? Like a doll has a higher tariff than a stuffed dog. There's a lot of weird loopholes that you can abuse to get. I think it goes from 35% extra tax to about 3% if it's a slipper. It's crazy. Yeah, and the person was telling me that As a result X-Men toys Don't have the tariff because they're mutants And somebody realize that I classify them as mutants and not humans

Wow, and that they pay way less tariff on X-Men toys, you know, I read or I probably heard it It's totally second-hand story by the way. I know the person told them and I don't call them out They don't work it. I heard this on NPR, but they would I was listening to story about importing vehicles into Turkey. And it's like these these trucks, I think they're called sprinters that are manufactured in Europe, get exported and brought into Turkey. But if you bring in 51% of a vehicle, you pay the vehicle tax on it. So what they do is they make this whole vehicle on the assembly line Then when they're done they cut it in Directly in half and make 250% of the vehicle ship it across the border

Then when they get it they have another factory that has put some back together. Wow That's where they can get around the the vehicle How much did that cost to set up there? But it's like they could save a ton of money over time, I guess. Yeah That's awesome. I love loop holes like like that. It's so interesting to me It's just like that one percent is like the fact that they can find specifically where 50% of the vehicle is What it's the same with if you if you cut money in half like cash you have to have 50% for them to replace it I think you have to have 51% so if it goes directly in half you just ruined it. I think I like the idea of like they get taxed on one of them More than it's like what's the problem with this one front had fuzzy dice in it

So his machine that analyzes cash to see how much percent is in the money I don't think so. Well, how do they judge it? It's about 50 one percent So is this like your scheme you're gonna start cutting money directly in half and then like Train or D's so like so like like if you were to give somebody like, roughly half of a dollar, they'd take it, they'd be like, maybe they'd weigh it. Maybe. Well, they'd probably pick up a lot of gunk.

Yeah, I can't imagine what the weight of a dollar would be after like a year. We should go to a test. We should weigh a fresh crisp dollar and then weigh it again in a year. I read a crazy fact that the there's a some Like Walt Disney owned amphitheater where the cushions in the chairs are Calibrated to be the same absorption for sound as a human body so that the absorption of the stadium is the same whether it's filled or empty Help rehearsing

Kind of pessimistic. No, so because we they rehearsing, yeah, they rehearsing empty empty empty empty empty. That's very clever. Very, I think it's very clever. That's very clever. It's better than hauling in a bunch of dead bodies. We're rehearsing. That would be way worse. That would be a lot harder.

But you were doing a lot of security. I always was somebody this weekend, and I'm not gonna say who, because I don't want to compromise anybody else's security stuff, but we were obviously, we know a lot of web development people or video game development people. A lot of people work on development people a lot of people

Work on servers a lot of people work at consoles everywhere across board. I was with somebody this weekend at one point and they were like Oh, on their phone and I was like what and they said I just type out my password on my phone And you put it down every else they was like, oh, I'm so sorry and I'm like Just type it again. It's like no. I type out my password So now I have to go through this like quintuple verification process that if you if you they make one mistake on Like logging in to the email or the server they have to go through this long-ass process to recover their own account Basically, wow, and he knew it was gonna take him like 30 minutes to do it because he typed it awful You know what that fucking reminds me of guys something that happened a few months ago

It was like oh my name is something that happened a few months ago He was not know this was months ago. This was this was multiple months ago It was no because it was long ago because we hadn't started production in RVB12 yet. Oh my fucking god I just remembered this so whenever this had like a month ago two months ago like a month ago several months ago A month ago Emily calls me over and says, I just got this weird email. Can you take a look at it? And I look and it's like a Microsoft account in a notification email. And she says, I guess I have this account

and someone recovered the password. And I looked and it was like one of our shared email accounts that said sure was. That's really weird. Someone was able to, or someone was able to log in and they added a phone number to your account. It's like, I don't know that phone number. Do you know that phone number?

No, I don't know it. So I said, well, let's call it. And let's see, let's see if we recognize who picks it up. So I pick up the desk phone. And I said of calling off of line one, I call off of line three, which is not our main number. And I call it and I hear hello I'm like

Wrong number and I hang up and like yeah, I don't know who that is. We got it. We got it We got to report this. Well, just a little bit based on hello. Yeah, well earlier that morning I'd come in the start working on RVB and We have to do this thing where every now and then Halo 4 will kind of forget that we downloaded some maps So we need to connect it to Xbox Live to say hey, don't worry. We do have these maps. Please give them to us. We have shit to do this thing where every now and then Halo 4 will kind of forget that we downloaded some maps. So we need to connect it to Xbox Live to say, hey, don't worry, we do have these maps. Please give them to us. We have shit to do. The only problem with that is whenever we connect to Xbox Live, it says, hey, would you

like to sign in with your password? Let me say, sure, Xbox, I would love to sign in with that password. And we type it in and it goes, great, great, thanks for that password. Hey, would you like to add a phone number to help make things more secure? If you say no, it says cool, fuck you, and you don't like it to do anything. But if you say yes and says, okay, great,

we're gonna text you a four-digit code. Just pop that in. Do it, send it in. Great, great, thanks so much. We've sent you a confirmation email. If you could please respond to that email. So we know that you're the one that had this phone. That'd be great, you go to email. Thanks, I see that that you put in the phone number to make sure that this email is secure though

We're gonna send you a second email and it goes on and I'm not I'm not making this up It's like a ten-part process to sign into Xbox live and then do this other shit and we have a lot of characters and RVB at this point in time So you have to do it a lot I have I have several spreadsheets a lot of characters in RVB at this point in time. So you have to do it a lot. Jeff Lackin' Spreadsheet with all the- I have several spreadsheets, Kevin. So whoever set up the original Red vs. Blue House, I had a sense that the Alvazon Sound was directed at me there.

What is that? Whoever set up the original RVB counts for like Kaboos andiff and a few of those characters They didn't just use like an email address for that character. They used like the store email address I just use whatever the fuck we had at the end or the administrative email address. That's all I And because of that I I don't know the passwords all that stuff I'll try and enter it and it'll say hey this password's wrong, but we can text you something blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah don't use this password because it's been compromised just today. We had somebody try and hack into something using that old password. Stop using it. Oh my god. Fuck man. All of the old RIV accounts use that password. I got to change

the password and all these. So now I get abam to help me like changing passwords. We're getting emails and text messages and calling people and fucking changing all this shit. And at one point in the middle of all of it, I'm sitting next to Adam Ellis and I go, hey Adam, what kind of breach did we have today? I was, uh, somebody tried to get into a Microsoft account password. Was it the admin Microsoft account? Yeah, why? I'm the hacker. I'm the hacker. I'm the one that hacked. And earlier than was.

And earlier that, I know I don't go. I'm the hacker. What? I'm the hacker. Look, and I point to my email. I have the email. It's like, hey, that password doesn't work. And he goes, no, no, no, no.

We called somebody today. And that's what I remembered. I was standing in the fucking break room. We need to go to the bathroom. I get a call call and I go, I don't know this number. Hello? Oh, Rome number. Hang up. And as soon as I hang up the phone, I go, I just start answering random numbers as, hey, this is Miles.

Well, I love this. You're in the break room. We're literally like 15 feet away. So, we just, we're on the phone. There's no walls between us. We're having a conversation and we don't hear each other I was Adam What ran into each other like it was you You're the phone also waste of time It was such a long way. Oh my fucking way. Oh my fucking way. And by the way every season

We say we're gonna rectify that and get all that stuff straight now, never fucking do it. I fucking did it this time. And no one, no, Nick, whoever replaces you won't be able to find the fucking list. That'll be 12 seasons. No, no, it'll, hey. It's always existed, but then when you need the list, you can't fucking find the list. Season 11, we got fucking controller holders. Season 12, I'm bringing in the list. I got this.

I mean, it's gonna change. It's gonna change. That's changing security policy, you know, off to that as well. So it's not gonna be useful in two years anyway. You know what pissed me off though about the Microsoft security thing when we were trying to come up with new passwords. Yeah. I put in a new password and it goes, that's way too many characters.

I fucking think that I cannot believe that. That's like, it's pretty secure. I don't know about that. My last. After all of this, there was that. Sorry, I think we talked about it in the patch last week where that five-year-old kid in San Diego Fucking figured out that if you enter a wrong password and then you just enter a bunch of spaces It lets you in anyway

I was with a fucking kid Kids are kids. I got our awesome. I love it. I love it. Did you ever accidentally like set up? Oh here's miles vacation with Brad Remember that day look I didn't give my tan yet in that picture. I'm so white somebody Let me call so any of you on Twitter. Oh He's got a dumbest fucking Twitter handle in the world I'll just retweet it is him is Jeff Fuzzi and that's my Our her name is the one the Jeff picture. She was great. How did you afford that trip miles? Well, you know, I got a few businesses on the side. Let's not talk about it. I own a car wash

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