Rooster Teeth Podcast - RT Podcast #309

Episode Date: February 3, 2015

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This week we're joined by Mr. Bernie Burns. No, Matt Hullam CEO Cray Haddock supervising producer, and Gus Thurola, as usual. And I mean, I don't know. There's some of you I'm sure that are watching the podcast who might not read the website or might not follow us in various forms of social media. But for those of you who weren't aware already, last Thursday, our dear friend Monty Ome had a simple medical consciousness, and we were very sorry to say that

money passed away yesterday, Sunday, February 1st, at about 4.34 in the afternoon. And so, last week we missed the podcast. We did not have a live edition of it. We showed the PAX panel because we were dealing with this crisis at that time, but we weren't yet comfortable enough to really talk

about it publicly because when Monty lost consciousness, he didn't really have a chance to tell us what his wishes would be. So we wanted to respect his privacy as much as we could. That being said, if we missed two podcasts in a row on Monty's behalf, I don't think Monty would have liked that very much. I don't, I don't think he would have. No, I know.

Despite the fact he, you know, it wasn't, didn't feature regularly on the podcast. Uh, he was here most Mondays, uh, moochie pizza, uh, or, uh, watching off on the sides over here. Or, or he would, he would be in his office. And as he always did, he always was watching something and making something at the same time. That was kind of his MO. And he'd have the Rishi podcast on and then he would stop to make sure to tweet at me that we had already talked about this. Tell me in a way that I was wrong. But he also had suggestions when we were looking for something

to talk about Monti also had suggested all the time of like You know talk about this or do that as well and sometimes listening very loudly in that little room back there I was always concerned that was gonna be a feedback loop They'll be mediating from Monti's corner, you know the podcast Jack wrote a journal talking about some of his Memories of Monti today and he posted on the website and he told a story I'd forgotten about, which was when we were out shooting the first immersion, which was the video game car, that, you know, we were between takes and we were between setups and we were all standing around and we were like, do you hear heavy metal music? Like, where is that coming from? And that was the first time I experienced

Monty in Power Down Mode. He was just off to the side with his headphones in. Full blast and he was totally asleep. Are you okay? Do you want to turn that down a bit? And you just like woke up for a second. It was loud enough that outside with the wind blowing like 20 miles per hour, you know, at this big wide open space and everybody's running around yelling that it sounded like, you know, the music was playing out of a boom box. It was directly in his ears and he was just sleeping. It was amazing. Yeah, he was just hilarious. It's something I'm wondering if I have to keep on the traditional and the animation department

of just blasting that sadden in system from time to time, just to kind of keep everyone going. Yeah. Should be right of initiation, like during an all nighter, like the person on the team has to wear the headphones and sit there and animate. The crazy thing was,

is where we filmed immersion. We didn't realize it at time, but it was a block away from where we are now. We came out to the old airport because it was the only tarmac where we thought we could run this truck privately without the cops stopping us, you know, with our blow-up dolls and Monty and Frank dressed as Yucuza. They beat the shit out of you.

I was gonna say he beat the shit out of me. He did not pull punches. He got me good. I had a bad bruise on my side from where he kicked me for like a week and a half. That was a very physical shoot. I remember Jack also got like a horrific sunburn. So I just do remember anything else Jack from that experience. But we also we had we hadn't been working with Monty. We worked with Monty for a while. I guess at that point, but not doing much stuff out of the office.

Have we made that short? So here's deal. So the first pack's east was when we showed the pilot episode of immersion. It was also the first time we debuted Monty's work. That's right. So Monty had been working for us. It was a total secret for six months. Six months? Yeah. So we've been working with him, but we hadn't done that much outside of the office.

And you never know if somebody, when you go out on set or in the field with their personality, it's going to be like how it's going to be different. Then you know in the office and it turns out he's just as crazy. I said the office as he was in and really enjoyed beat you guys up. Yeah, he was a fun day. Just a fun day. You know how unfamiliar we were with Monty at the time I said I felt nervous by asking to play like essentially an Asian character in a sketch. So I asked him that of course

He was completely fine with it. And then I asked him do you have like a crazy suit that you could wear Something like really high-fetched I never because I didn't know at that point. I know it before I did not see his response was how many do you need? Let me show you my collection of legs But yeah, and it's it was crazy to think like you know, Monty being a guy who He was so meticulous about the way he Presented everything was so meticulous about the work that he did the way he presented himself at conventions All the time, you know, he just he dressed to the nines and never dressed the same way twice that I can recall

It was amazing to me that somebody knowing him now in hindsight that he could go six months with like zero limelight, working so hard and just knowing that this moment was coming, you know? You know, I was thinking about that, today I was thinking about the time we premiered his work there at a Paxi, at the first Paxi. And I never thought about it till today,

like that's the building where I met him for the first time. I met him at Anime Boston in 2007, the week that he had released Hayloid. And I remember we saw it and we shared it all amongst the office, like crazy. And I think independently, all of us emailed him immediately. You need to come work for us. And it's like it's one of the few fanboy moments

I've ever had at a convention was he emailed me back. And that was like, I'm going to get to meet Monty. I was so excited about it. And he came by the booth. And we went off and got coffee there in the convention center. And we talked for an hour about his process and how he did things.

So it was really cool. Three years later, he didn't come work first. He went and worked for the individual game industry. But eventually he came back and it was cool three years later to have the big unveiling and be there with him when we showed off the Wardhawk breaking through the wall. Well, that was funny too, because I think everybody did

email him immediately. It was like, you're bad ass, you got to come work for us. But then there was a conversation that we had where we were like, yeah, so, you know, we should do stuff together. And he was like, okay, cool. And then that was it. And then he went and took the job of the video game. He would work for me. And the later he said to us, oh, you guys were trying to hire me, I thought you were just like messing around. I was like, what did you think you were calling? I didn't want your plans before. Oh, cool. Okay, well,, let's work together now. And it was always. It was years later, he went to work for Midway and then moved out to the West Coast after

he changed jobs in the video game industry. And that's when I caught up with him again is Kalanonymous, who used to run Etsy, is that his hair, et cetera, at Machinima. He had a panel and he invited me to be on it. I was like, oh man, I've never been on a panel. Comic-Con, what's that all about? And I looked at the list of people and on there was Monty Ohm. And so I said, oh, absolute money. I was going to be there. I'd love to talk to him and see what he's up to. And I think it was like three years after we tried to hire him the first time that we went on there. Because it would have been, you know, the view to office Gus and then all the way to Congress, like halfway through our stay at Congress. And yeah, we're on the panel together,

and you know, Monty's just is very sure of himself, but he doesn't talk a lot in those scenarios. He doesn't do that kind of thing. And that was, that was, I mean, that's how I knew him for the first large chunk of time. I guess by this point, you guys were at 636. And this was RVB9, so he'd been with you guys for what little over a year at that point. RVB 9, so his first day was the last day of season 7.

He secretly worked on a shot in season 7, remember it's blue, the laser face shot because I had done it with like a Spartan laser like kind of faked it and mine is like oh I can be better. I remember you setting that shot up in order you to try to plate it and one is like, oh, that could be better. I remember you setting that shot up in order to try to plate it correctly and make it look right, you covered the television and posted notes. Do you remember that? Can I just line it back up again?

Yeah, and you only were like trying to expose the parts of the shot that we're supposed to line up and everything else was covered to see a post-it notes. And I think that's what he walked in. He saw that and he was like, no. You're just disgusted at your process. Yeah, that's what we had to like match shots in theater mode in Halo, we would have to do

that. Crazy. Well, nothing just doing, you know, so I met him early in RVB 9 and I was just doing VFX at the time. And a bunch of us were in the upstairs part of the office and I think, you know, Monty more or less had the downstairs, like the entire back soundstage green screen area was his domain. And you know, by his RVB, we were 9 grand up.

We wanted to more folks were occupying that space. But it was just kind of crazy to go downstairs and be where all this stuff is spread out. You can see all the chemicals and the props and the costumes. Yeah. And all the nerve stuff. I mean, I think he's probably the originator of half all the nerve weaponry that's ever been around here. But probably.

Yeah, just walking downstairs because all this animation we get delivered to post and it was just crazy stuff. And I knew that the guy who worked on Haloid was down there somewhere, went downstairs and just wanted to say hello. And I think he, I distinctly remember that the first words I got out of him were, uh, uh, or at least like the two or three times and eventually, you know, you get the rhythm of conversation and go in

and then you realize that you can get about the same stuff and just it takes off from the door. Absolutely. But yeah, I think he was still kind of getting used to the fact that the company was still growing in new faces. We're starting to show up and he didn't have the whole, you know, 2000 square foot things as his stage quite to himself and what.

Yeah, but he was never, he was never like a huge, like an order, like a huge talker. Like your panels, he'd be very quiet on the podcast. He, you know, he was definitely somebody who was so dedicated to his work. That's, that's what, how he wanted to impress people was that way. At the same time, you know, I think everyone here can tell a story of like being here for whatever reason, like midnight or 10 a.m. or 10 p.m. one night, just for whatever reason they were here. And then they get in the two hour conversation with Monty about something

where that was like matrix movies or you know Monty love the game grumps, you know, or just everything everything and anything Monty was constantly consuming Lots of different stuff was was a huge fan of so many different things Yeah, that's a lot of things about just losing sense of time while talking to him was always the the neatest little trick You know no matter what you're gonna deep whatever you were going to geek out about, then you would blink and realize that three hours have gone by and then you didn't get back to the shot or whatever. I thought that was really cool about him, that he did like basically everything in the world, every kind of content.

He wasn't cynical about anything. I never, like, can remember a time where he, you know, made fun of somebody else's work or said something else wasn't cool enough or whatever. He just like we could always find something really interesting and compelling about everything and wanted to talk about everything. You know, like, I mean, anything from, you know, big budget Hollywood movies to little independent movies to anime stuff to anything you find in the web and he looked like you say love game grumps and you love gaming videos and just pretty much anything under the sun he would always find something that was unique that you hadn't thought of about it as well. Well he thought it was a

I he always said that he felt like that was a big part of our culture now is watching things and then you know know, using those things. It's like you basically take your experience in the world and turn around as a few acts as a filter and then like create something new and exciting, you know, based on the total aggregate experience of everything that you've seen and done. And that was fascinating to me when he first came to work for us was to see him work and all the time have something in a secondary monitor that he was watching at the same time or observing. I remember when years after he'd been here for a few years when Avatar came on a Blu-ray. Yeah. He watched Avatar on half speed like on a loop non-stop. He had a

special player that would play the whole movie at half speed. And no sound. Yeah, with no sound, he just wanted to see the way that everybody moved, the actors moved, and you know, the computer generated, characters moved, and just to try to study, you know, the motion, which seems like most people wouldn't even think to look at that. It's like, oh, it looks good, so you ignore it. But no, it looks so good. You want to really drill down and understand it. He never stopped being a student. It was good as he got that everything else that he'd never stopped learning. And that was something that I always found inspiring. And I know that everyone in the Innovation Department felt the same way. And you know, there was there was nothing that didn't have any value. There was everything, no matter whether it was a Hollywood A-list title or something, someone produced on their own just through online or whatever, that there was always something

that you'd learn in terms of white or true, sometimes white didn't. And he was constantly studying. You know, I got a chance to talk to you. And I think you did too. I got a chance to talk with Monty's older sister during this last week when she was in town to see him and to hear about experiences when he was younger that he would just want something, not figure out how to get it or they couldn't afford it and he would just build it, find a way to build it himself.

And I thought it was really special to me that she got a chance to come here and look at his workspace and see know see how like all these little contraptions and things that he's like built you know that him you go in his office it's like all these trinkets that are like disassembled and reassembled back into something else or like even you know even like trinkets like from different objects you know he would take apart multiple objects and then recombine them and recontextualize them into new ways. Some a couple stories that I heard in the last week which explained so much, apparently in the household growing up, you couldn't leave them unattended with electronics because

you would leave the room and then come back in, whatever it was was disresistible. So you just kind of figure out what worked. There was another one which, apparently he had a tendency to run around and close quite a bit as a kid, which now I get why he was running around all the time here wearing nothing but the mocap shoot day in and day. There was a period when he first got that mocap suit. He was so excited about us having mocap in the office that I don't think he took the suit off for like five, six days straight.

I know what was the jack. It was like, I mean, yeah, it was, it was the, the suit had its own baked in Monty essence, but that week that that was you would go to the coffee shop and restaurants just down the block with the balls on it. It's like, he, I mean, he lived in that suit. We'd see on the monitor just like this like 3D model eating a sandwich. We'd do, we do, we do, we do, it was worth that. That's probably one of the harder moments that I've had in this past week was I came back in here and his, his mocap suit was hanging on a hook on the back of his door.

And that was, that was a tough, that was a tough moment for me to see that because I'm not used to seeing that thing inactive, you know. Well, then, you know, you mentioned this sister talking about her stories of him as a kid and, you know, talking about him just being desperate to get, you know, Lego blocks, like not a set of, you know, like Star Wars, free package Legos or whatever, like, you know, we buy kids today, but it's just, you know, he just wouldn't, anything he could create with. He was like desperate to create all the time. And he's still, you know, he was that way throughout his life.

He was just like desperately creating. He just like had so much that he wanted to get out. And there's like, however much time he spent on it, wasn't enough. That's why he would work, he would stay up for 30 hours. Not because anybody, people all told him, don't do that many times, but he just like, he could not help himself.

He gets so excited about the process and just so invigorated, just like he would be in like the 24th hour where you get a second win. It's like, this is great. I gotta keep going. This is the best thing I've ever done. I'm not so excited. You know, you talk about how he is a sleep cycle was different and

the minute black sleep cycles. I remember once at Ralph Hablenado, we were down there and it was before the studio was fully fleshed out. It was still coming out. Ralph Hablenado is our last studio. Right. That's the place where yeah, we were like three years, the last three years. I needed to have a meeting. We were doing planning for RTX 2012, I think, and the meeting room, the conference room was taken. So I say, well, let's just go meet out in the warehouse space. I don't think there's anybody in there. I peaked in. There was no one there. So I sat down at the table, have a meeting, and we're like halfway through the meeting. And I adjust my feet,

and I feel something under the table. Yeah. Like, Is that? I mean, it's going to be the table. Monty was curled up taking a nap. Like, I guess he was on his off-cycle from his 30-hour shift and he had just like decided to, you know, take a nap there right by his computer. And I was like, we've been having this meeting for like 15 minutes. Yeah, it's just out. I was like, we got to go somewhere else.

Normally, you just have to peel him off of his keyboard. You know, he's just sort of, you know, passed out right at his work stage. But, yeah. But it was one of the frustrating things about working with him too, is that he was always creating stuff. And so, we'd be coming up on a major deadline.

You know, for animation, sometimes it'd be like, 30 weeks in a row, we were working on something. And it's like, hey, there's a deadline, two weeks. It's like, money, what are you doing? He's like, I'm making, I've been spending the last week of my time making these mechanized robotic angel wings. And he's like, look, I attached it to a servo and I can make them flex on their own.

It's for a cosplay. I was like, yeah, that's cool. Can you not do that for a long time? Or so? He just built that. He just saw it. It'd be cool to have a pair of robot angel wings. I'm gonna Or so. He just built that. He just saw it'd be cool to have a pair of robot angel wings. I'm gonna do that.

And he built himself. I don't know the time that he wasn't working on three things it was. Yeah, constantly heat of production. We could be crunching on anything and there's the show in front of them. The next thing he's designing on the side, it could be, I guess for a video game or what have you. And then he's always thinking one year out in terms of like the next show you's designing on the side, it could be, you know, I just for a video game or what

have you. And then he's always thinking one year out in terms of like the next show you'd want to do. You know, you talk about how he's always building things and you know, taking things apart, putting him together. You know that emoji with the hearts for eyes? I think that was his face when he saw the 3D printer. Yeah, I said that to his sister that the 3D printer showed up here and immediately went to Monty's desk somehow that's happened One man QC department for all of maker right now. Yeah, I don't know how many times he had them on the phone We're using even new parts because he just drove into the ground or just finding new ways to you know try and improve it Well, if you guys obviously did this gear this way when we've been breaking so much a little blood

He gave him so much feedback. It was just crazy. Yeah, the thing the thing was Constantly in production, making stuff and... Yeah, it was definitely a big part of Monty's life was dealing with the limitations of things. I always feel like Monty was constantly coming up with limitations, but also having an appreciation for those limitations. Because he's always thought the limitations made him that much more creative, trying to figure out how to get that boundless entertainment that he wanted to create, but within the limitations that were just forcing him by when he was making the entertainment, essentially. Yeah, I mean, we saw him and we've talked about his way to come around limitations,

you know, with creative solutions like ripping keys off of a keyboard so that he won't have to do the first turns ahead of him. Yeah, I think, you know, he came down and a keyboard so that he won't have to do the rolling. Yeah, I was actually the first to have it in me. Yeah. Yeah, I think, you know, he came down and we bought him a really expensive, really nice laptop. Let's call it as, we bought him a nice computer that anybody else in the company had. Time. We were so, we were so, so, so, I, I, the company had not bought me a computer yet. I would just have to find my own computer and bring him my own computer to work at this point. And we bought him the super nice laptop. I was so jealous. And literally one day later, like half the keys are ripped off. And first thing you did was take a screwdriver and jam it into the caps lock key and pop it

up. And then the F1 key and pop it up. He's like, oh, if I hit that, then you know, it messes up the way I work in the program. So I just want to make sure I never hit it. And I was like, that makes perfect sense And it's keyboard and there right now is completely popped up. I did not know I somehow I dis escaped my attention My desk that I made when we were at Ralph Albonato. I lost Like an office and then I was like kind of free-floating for a while Monty ended up with my desk. I was like, the, the, the plywood one. Yeah, the crazy lowers. And of course, he was building something on it and completely like burned part of it. There's like deep gouges in it now.

Money ruined a lot of that. Actually, I was looking at pictures the other day, just going through all photos and I came across one night and forgotten about and I turned it, showed it to Shino. It was like, though, it was a where Monty had off-handedly said, oh, I think I scratched that desk. I might need a new one. I was like, okay. And then I came down, looked at it, and the desk was like viscerated. It was just completely destroyed. Head chemical stains from all the crazy stuff he would use for his epoxies and all that stuff. It was just, it was nuts. He burned his own face. He chemically burned his own face one summer.

Right before Comic Con, he like was working with the pox, he's mixing together and then somehow wiped his face and then had huge burns on his face. I was like, money, there's not good. He shouldn't be doing that kind of thing. I thought it's sorry, it was more efficient than he used in close. He was busy.

He was busy. What is your absolute favorite, like money-owned efficiency tip? Oh, well the microwaves. It's guy who's right, he's asking you the microwave. So for people who don't know the microwave, it's if you have to put something in the microwave for a minute, instead of hitting 6.0, you hit 55. Right. Because it's one number and it's pretty much a minute.

It started first, he was first, he was putting 1.0, 0. Then he realized he could just put in 60 and that was faster because it's one number and it's pretty much a minute. It started first. He was first. He was putting in 100. Then he realized he could just put in 60. And that was faster because it's only two digits. But it'd be it's 5.5. It's the same thing. That extra second that you would take to move your hand to hit the different keys was too much repetitively. I think it was another layer two where he'd go 5.8.

And he could do that in a row. Yeah, it was like, you know, you could figure out what his digits like. What was the best way to make his way down to the inter button or the, but I didn't, he was so obsessed with the efficiency stuff. Like, the last time he was over at the house, like, I was watching dishes and he was like, I was talking, he's like, looking at me and I could tell he wasn't paying attention to the thing I was saying, he was just looking at the sink. And after him, and he goes, your sink is not very efficient. I was like, how can it sink be more efficient? It's just like a bowl with

the hole and that's there's not much to it. And he's like, I can find a way. I'll make your better sink. I'll make you a better sink is that what you said? No 3d print you a sink. No 3d print I think money is personally responsible for me finally learning like Windows OS keyboard shortcuts something to a we were you you know, there was, he would go a little quieter, occasionally, you just get this hint of a sigh if we're doing editorial reviews. And if you dare use the mouse to navigate

to get the file up or whatever, those are precious seconds. We've been viewing footage. Oh man. Yeah. Yeah, another computer story. I mean, he held on to Windows XP forever because he didn't like the Windows 7 interface. Yeah.

And then because it changed some of his shortcuts and then, you know, finally, we just could not buy a new computer with Windows XP. I'm sorry Mike. Like, I can make it look like Windows XP. We went through and would like change the thing. He was searching on Ebay and like, everywhere was like, this is the computer I want, you know, because it's like Windows from 20 years ago. he just would not move. Yeah, it's like, pose 95, too. Yeah, I would be calling manufacturers, like, listen, I want the computer you have for selling your website.

I don't want the OS, like can we just get an old copy of Windows XP at all and they're like, no, we don't have the driver support, like, I know you've got a guy, you've got someone who's got to be able to do this. Eventually, we got him off of that on the Windows 7. Yeah, that was a... Yeah, and then we had to go through and adjust the theme

to give it the XP, the classic feel, because all the arrow stuff took too much resources. He didn't want his computer wasting time generating all those plurishes when it could be rendering faster and doing those other things. There was that, and of course, I mean, if you think he's that way about OS is then, you know, for sure, he's that way about OS is then, you know, for sure, he's that way about his animation software where we're like,

Hey, man, new version, whatever. It's like, I'm just doing what I need to do. You don't want to go to other tools like, no, this is the one that I'm fast at right now. It's getting what I need to, you know, it does want me to do. We're good. Yeah. Well, people on Twitter are saying that we already told the podcast story before about money and the microwave. They're just keeping the dream alive from Monty. I'm sort of pointing out, you don't have to call us on that. That's okay. There's so many cool things about Monty and I just think that the way he lived his

life where he just, he didn't care. You know what I mean? About what anybody else thought, he was just going to go do it. It was really cool. I remember one time we went to, uh, they're like really the first like big award show we'd ever been to. Mm-hmm. Um, like Hollywood award show was the producer's guild awards and it was, yeah, it was us and, um,

a few people that worked on, um, Ruby and RVB and, I guess it was just RVB. It was RVB 10, right, that we were there for. And Monty was, uh And Monty was with us. And Bernie and I had gone out and rented really nice tuxes and we're like, you know, gonna look spiffy for the red carpet because we get to walk down a red carpet. We're like, literally right behind LO Cool J, we were all excited about it.

And Monty had gone and made himself one of his amazing outfits that he makes. And looked of course completely different than anybody else at the Red Carpet. And we go out there for the walk and you know we start we walk across and all these flash bulbs have been going off and you know people taking pictures and you hear like like machine gun sound of cameras going off for all these celebrities. And then soon as Bernie and I walk through all the cameras turn off, and like a deafening silence.

And when you took time to like, do you make an other camera point? So let me say to the setting. Who are these guys? Not too idiot. It's just letting pass through. Like they didn't take one picture of us. Maybe like one like guy was like, okay, fine.

And we get to the other side. And then Monty walks out looking super cool and just like, you know Like somebody out of this world. You know, you know, he's like always it walked and he made it You know a grand entrance. He was always prepared to play a Michael Jackson or K-pop video broke out He read and all the cameras sure enough go And they're just taking pictures of him like crazy. There's like this guy's got to be somebody and he was somebody I remember he wanted up to Russell Simmons Yes, you're right. He wanted to tell Russell Simmons world famous producer walked out of time

He gets I think I know him like he wanted across it's at high because he was going what they looked at my guess I don't I can't think of another rock star animator. He was a rock star. Yeah. I mean, so the last couple of RTX is... You know, for one thing, yeah. So I think we're going to have to up our game in terms of our fashion sense. The conventions.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, he would occasionally like say something. You guys come on. You wear this to the office every day. What do you have? You're conversing, you wear this to the office every day. You have your conversing your t-shirts and jeans and whatever. You know, you're just chodin' something special. Where are you going to have a deep sit?

Where are your robotic wings? You've got to get on that. But his inferences at the panels were something to behold. And back at RTX 2012, we rented a pump it up machine and put it on the floor so that he could go out and dance on it and have basically exhibitions showing people how awesome he was. With this giant banner printed up, I don't know if you remember it, it's at the Monti Oom experience.

Yeah. And I found it a couple of weeks ago, maybe a couple months ago going through storage and I thought you know nobody wants this right and I went over and I grabbed Monti. I was like, hey you remember the Montiom experience banner. I found it. Do you want to go? Absolutely Grabbed it and took it back I don't know where it is He kept it. It was it was an awesome photo. It was it was really really back. He hung it in his bedroom. I don't know where it is, but he kept it.

It was an awesome photo. It was really, really cool. We're gonna have to do something with that. Yeah. Yeah, I think over time we've hung some of the, like the store banners, the photos of people. Yeah. Yeah, we kind of like it was the master of the dojo.

We had his up there downstairs at 636 for the longest time but You guys So it sounds like some people have stopped by his office then in the last week or so have you been by? Yeah, I've been by earlier this week You know and then we took a sister Tia on a walk through as well. Yeah, it's different, you know, it's different to see it.

I mean, Monty also, he also did work from home a lot, you know, just because he liked to work, you know, wherever he was most comfortable. Yeah, and worked in the car sometimes. Well, drive shops, you know, when he was out of town, he would do that too. Vacations were like torture. Seems like sometimes. I like from what to sometimes. I don't know if a vacation he ever took where he didn't bring at least one laptop and the latest assets for the show he's working on one night. He would always come back and he would have like three more characters built and you know the next flight ready to go.

And like you were supposed to be having downtime. It's like for him that was down time. I think it was PAX East 2013 where we were flying up there and our flight was supposed to be Austin to Dallas to Boston, but the Dallas to Boston flight got canceled. So I had to scramble and I rebooked all of us to fly into New York and then we had to rent a van and drive from New York up to Boston. And we were going to be premiering the Blake trailer at that Pax East. And so we landed in in New York. And it's like, I don't know, it was like a three hour drive. I guess to get the Boston 3 1,5 hour drive. So, you know, we got in the car, started driving in Montibus out his laptop.

And, you know, the whole time he worked until the laptop stopped, until like the battery was gone. It was like, you know, closed it up, that he powered down. I think we have an RT life video of that, you know, I think Kerry's back there. And I think, you know, he just, you know, put his head down and powered down and Kerry started or so, I think it was Kerry. Someone started like filming him just in power download. And without moving his head, he just reached out and punched the camera like, you exactly where it was. It was, it was so, it was so bad ass. And I was sorry, I was driving. I look so it was so bad ass and I Was sorry that I was driving. I look at the review mirror. I wish I wish I'd been back there

Yeah, he did have Eyes not just in the back of his head like Everywhere I'm an he was crazy eat. I mean The we talked about before how he could watch all those monsters simultaneously and it did seem like we talked about before how we could watch all those monsters simultaneously. And it did seem like if there was a forward object flying it in from somewhere like when we were at the, was that thing was packs, it was another packs where the guy came up and threw the lemon. The lemon punch.

Yeah. Oh gosh. Yeah. And it was smack and punched you right back at the guy that was hilarious. Yeah. I think, yeah, that was, that was, that was amazing. That's one of one of the standout memories that I always equate with Monty. Yeah.

And I feel lucky to have been on the stage and to have seen that first. Yeah. I think one of the hardest things in all this is like, Ray, we're saying earlier, Monty's always working on new stuff and it's, it's, we just been in the process of Talking with Monty about like what was next? I mean that's how Ruby came about is that you know Monty had done about three seasons on red versus blue We said, you know Monty this show's gonna last a long time

You know and you can be the lead animator for red versus blue for years and years But is there anything you want to do and he was said let me show you this and he showed the first thing He showed me was a site that turned into a gun. And I said, I can't solve this looks good, whatever this is. And then went into it and then he made the Ruby Red trailer himself as like a test concept.

And the stuff that Monty was working on, I think the saddest part of all of this is just, you know, there's a lot of Ruby left that Monty's worked on. And, you know, he's talked with us over the years and talked with his team that, you know, basically hands-elected himself to, you know, tell them of ideas that he had for it and places he wanted to see it go. So, I feel safe in that, but I do feel sad about the loss of those things that we'll never see, you know, that work that he just

didn't have time to make. Yeah. There's, yeah, I think the question what would Monte do is probably going to be coming up a lot. We were talking about the office a little bit ago. There was, you know, we were wondering, do we, do we close the door to believe it open and it's like, we're going to leave it open. It's if you're looking for just a little spark of crazy genius,

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he would just tell it look just just get through just survive in a couple of months. Go do something creative, go study, go explore, go refill your creative well as it were, but keep moving forward and then we will look at that together again and we will get moving on the next thing. Yeah. And it's, you know, throughout every single day of the last week and a half, I mean, I don't know what I haven't been thinking about now. I love that that was a phrase of his because, you know, you know, you don't

kind of think of these things until you have the benefit of hindsight, but that's just sums up Monty entirely where he had to keep moving, he had to keep doing, he had to keep creating, he had to keep being watching, which was an amazing thing to be. And I'm really glad he left us with that as a mantra. It's like he inspired us in a lot of ways and he will continue to inspire us. Yeah. You know, it's very sad that Monty's gone, but I mean, he accomplished so much in 33 years. I mean, if you think about everything that he's done, the work he did on Rivers, Blue

Creating is on a show. It's loved by millions of people. You know, it's going to be distributed now in Asia by Warner Brothers. It's just amazing. It's like, it's almost like Monty had a sense of, you know, of time, of his limited time because of the urgency that he had in his life, you know. And in a way, his greatest enemy at the end of it all was basically time, dying at 33. It's just, it's just such a, such a tragedy, you know. And, but he made, he absolutely made the most out of his years and made the most out of like literally every moment. He tried like, you know, make it as good as it could possibly be.

And on a smaller level, whenever we were working on projects, it was always time was the factor of like this has to come out. I want to make a bigger and better, bigger and better, bigger and better. And then it's just always time was always the limiting part of it to him. I remember there was a couple times, I mean, there was a couple times were done. I mean, it's like, this is a lot of times, like, people just want the relief of the person charged saying, okay, this is done. It's locked. We're out. Monty's like, I think I want to see some money. Please, we have, we need to burn the CBD tomorrow morning at 7 a.m. and there's not time for eight more shots in the sequence that we're talking about. I think we can do it. I think we can do it. And there's not time for eight more shots in sequence. And we're talking about it. It's like, I think we can do it. I think we can do it. And there's like several times that we did it

because Monty drove that. I said, I want to get this done. And he did, and he got it done. Some of the most favorite touches on productions from the last couple of years are things that we got in there the last night. Yeah, I mean, like you've got everything planned out. The scene was fine as it is.

And then he had one more cool idea. And it's like, you know, screw it. You need to sleep tonight, right? Come on. Let's just let's go for it. Come on. You know, it's temporary hardest forever. Let's go ahead and I'm not going to sleep tonight.

So yeah, I thought that's a lot of day. What's wrong with you? Yeah. We wanted to come on tonight because you know, Monty was, well, everything we've talked about tonight, Monty was somebody who really valued working and really liked to. He still didn't join his life. Some of you were learning for the first time that he was married last year um married sheena um didn't talk about that very much publicly um although they were inseparable for the course of the last year and a half um you know like i said at the time to show if we can miss one podcast uh for Monty's sake uh when we were at all the hospital kind of taking care of him or doing what we could to, but there was no way in hell we could get away with missing two on his behalf. There's no way he would have tolerated that. So we do want to thank you all for tuning in tonight. We said it up front. This would probably be a shorter version of the podcast and I just want to say how much we miss Monty already because of any closing thoughts. Yeah, I guess a big fat.

That was a big fat. All right, well, we actually prepared a little video to show you of Monty's work. He's a very bright light, burned for a short time, 33 years, but we love him very much. He missed you, Monty. Hello, Mr. Monty Oven. Hello, Mr. Montiom. Hello, Bernie. I was very excited about the moment my first steam showed up at a convention. No one had any idea what to expect. We had a full house with a Ruby panel, RTX 24k.

With Red vs Blue and Rouser Teeth as a company, there's a lot of things we hope to create to make people happy in ways they couldn't wouldn't expect. Red, white, black, had yellow because of agents. It's easy to forget to sleep when you're working on something cool. So you just work as far as you can and still there's never enough time. So the thing you gotta learn to is essentially let go. What we end up making is always more and more than what we think will be.

I do believe thoroughly in giving everything you got towards whatever you're doing at the time. My favorite thing to stem around was sharing it with everyone else. I colleagues, my friends, to stem around was sharing it with everyone else. I colleagues, my friends, who all worked on this project. Oh, for the longest time, I was just assumed we ended up here for some reasons that we don't need to think about. But we tend to be masters of our own fate. The only thing that stops us from doing the really cool things is time.

The word of huge band culture at the moment, where everything has formed off of something. If you look at something and you intend to use it, you have to emulate it, which means you have to understand it. I've landed in a very unique place where if I want to make a custom of something, I can also make the character that it's derived from. We're not in the same place. Yeah, I made it. We're not even 33 years old. Yeah, amazing. The end of the day, we're still looking at people and maybe to behave like people as an animator.

There are things you need to notice that most people wouldn't be seeing. The most important thing to do this is after you can watch movies or watch shows or watch things just keep your eyes open. It's a lot of destiny really. I mean, very few people have the luxury of doing exactly what they want to do as their job. There's never a day where I forget that. Moving forward, I always think about what's next. So like, I'm super excited to finish what we have so that I can just start working on something else. Describe the show to a newcomer in a more familiar way. Do you like apples? Example.

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