Rooster Teeth Podcast - Sir Gavin of Business Class - #445

Episode Date: July 28, 2017

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Intimate. To it. So Gavin and I had this idea that we like to go out every now and then for Bebs and just catch up with each other. But we haven't been able to do that in... For a few years? Like, seven years. I think it's very different.

It's been a long time we've been in the same place. But we're scheduled at work. We can't all the conference rooms are full, so why not schedule it on a podcast? We get paid for this. We get paid for this. Yeah, we just want to get paid. We're beyond that. They stop giving us pay checks.

All right, so we're having a special two-man edition of the podcast and this podcast is... What's the podcast? I know, I said podcast. What's the podcast? This podcast is sponsored by Casper mattress. Thank you, Casper. We'll talk more about them later.

So how you doing? I'm doing good. Just been playing video games all day. Have you really? Yeah. I got to play a video game today in Gus's office and it was, I even said it's like I know that a lot of times you'll think this is our job, but it's really fun when we actually get to sit there and play with other people. And Gus has this really cool set up because he's got like, that's where you guys go to do VR

the champions, right? It would if we still made that show. Yeah. Oh, and you don't I saw somebody posting about that recently too that there's no VR the champions that show? Yeah. Oh, and you don't, I saw somebody posting about that recently too, that there's no viewer of the champions that has come out. The, like, there's not many games. We played all. Dude, it's a huge, it's not going to make it, is it? I don't think so, which is shame, because it's so immersive. Yeah. It's very hard to make content with it, though, because it's never as immersive to watch,

as it is to have on your head and eyes. Then Gavin, we just played, he got to play his first ever game of player knowns battlegrounds It's very fun. I can see why everyone's been going a pover it. Yeah, it's so much buildup to being shot in the face But right right when we were playing on a community server that had less than the normal amount of people on it Yeah, yeah, and so it was one of those things and You got introduced to our playthrough team and and hey Patrick how are you doing first of all? I'm good.

Yeah. What is the seat? I was ready and waiting. Well, okay, we should explain why we're the late. Yeah, you should because they're blaming tech. Who is? Twitter. Okay, well let me be clear.

We'd have to receive blame from Twa. Yeah. Okay, but all the time. Let me be clear. Let me clear this up. It was text fault No, Gavin, I we had a they'll actually be some of the dogs sure will be in the vlog We're so we were shooting one thing like we were recording a let's play together. Yeah

over in stage four At the same time I was recording a vlog and then we came right up against the podcast So we had three productions all at once. You were vlogging us walking from one video to another, and it was 459 PM. People will have a playlist where you can follow us through our five minute adventure. That's why I like about that time I was late

for the podcast because I forgot that it was at five after we just recently changed it. And someone had cut in real time me leaving a hitman, let's play, and then coming and sitting down on the podcast, and it took me like 40 seconds to get from A to B. Well we give ourselves enough time like if we're gonna record like a podcast let's play or something we give ourselves enough time to do it but always always it's 20 minutes 30 minutes of setup at the very least stuff goes wrong in the last minute yeah even if you say test all your stuff there's always one thing that someone won't test, especially when the six people trying to record the same video.

We were recording earlier, Michael's, uh, Elgato just died like one second before we started. Oh, really? Well, we played, John, we played in a, in a match. We have our podcast group that we played. We played in a match to kind of like warm up, uh, before you shut up. And, uh, we actually got our first ever squad, chicken dinner in there. So the first one we'd ever got as a squad with plum squad. With all four of us, because you and Blaine and Gus played without me.

So that could never happen. We would never play without you. Fuck school. You weren't the full squad. I don't think that could happen. You were just, you were just pluh. Yeah, we were just pluh. You could probably get it, I came on you.

Little rise mongol. I don't accept for one thing. No, you shut up. Stop, this is terrible fucking driver. And he won't you? Little rise mongolese. I don't accept one thing. No, you shut up. No, stop. This is not where we're all fucking driver. And he won't admit it. He won't admit it. Well, like a married couple.

But that's not anything to be embarrassed about. If you're crap at driving in video games, it's not like you're crap at it. But I'm not crap about it. So you want to be in fine. I'm fine. He's not, he affuded John. We affordage.

While he's saying he's fine, he ran to motorcycle into the side of my car. I was waiting in the car waiting for John to come up. He was playing at us. This is just you holding a vendetta, because the first time we ever played a game, you didn't have your audio working and a ran you over. That is true.

I was one time I didn't have my, and you just played for the first time, and realized that audio is super important, very, especially headphones in this game. And I had, we were doing a Let's Play, had all those technical difficulties, my computer got rebooted, got into the game, we were recording all right,

and I was like, oh, how many audio in my headphones? I have no game audio, so I was deaf, and they had to tell me where people were shooting from and everything, and then I walked out around a wall, and John had run into me, because I couldn't hear the car coming. It's really, it has numbers between all the cardinal directions.

Yeah, just like the degrees on a compass. Yeah, yeah. Because a lot of games, we'll just put like an E. Oh, like the degrees. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. If you're with people who call that stuff out,

they're supposed to blame who fucking panics and says the right here, the right here. Contact, see someone, see someone, see someone, see someone. Oh, there, there, there. Playing is just full of fret, isn't it? It, see someone. The whole mirror. The whole mirror. The plan is just full of fret, isn't it? It's really good. He had a full on panic moment.

It actually is one of the most fun things that when you are not going hard on the game to mess with, when we, before we, Blaine and I were playing a duo's match and the pan, the pan in the game. Did you come across the pan at all? The prime pan? Yeah. Yeah, you can shoot it. It actually serves as armor. It sits on your back. It sits on your back. The best of all the pan at all. The frying pan? Yeah, you can shoot it. It actually serves as armor. It sits on your back. And so it's on your back.

It's the best way to play the game actually. Blaine and I were set up in a house. During a rain mattress, it's also weird sound kind of thing to add to the match when that happens. And we were just sitting in a house waiting. Everyone saw I would take my suppressed hand gun and shoot his pan and just freak him out. And just watch him.

Just try to figure out what's going on. And then you drive into wall. Typically. Stop it. Shoot it you drive into wall. Typically. Stop it. True. Stop it. Very true. Get over it.

Okay. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, everyone you play PUBG with has a complex because of you. Yeah, because he goes into like, I got it. He goes into like super hyperactive mode when he's doing it. He's just really, really going.

He does get pretty intense. Yeah. And then what is, doing the chicken dinner that happened with our squad. What'd you do with, what'd you do with the car? What'd you do with the car? At one point? We were in a nice little...

I flipped a car. I flipped, I was driving and I flipped a car. But that was a bullshit flip. I think we can all agree. That was like, invisible wall came out of nowhere, bush jumped in front of the car. Oh, not the car over. Just as long as there's excuses for you, I'm fine.

What kind of car flips over from a goddamn bush? All right, are we playing tonight? Yeah, we can play tonight. You gonna come over? Yeah, I'll come over. You gonna come over? Yeah, how many sluts have you got? You can come over and sit like in my setup.

Wait, it's typically four man squad. So who have you kicked out? Well, I haven't invited anybody else yet. You're the first show I'm inviting. You think Gus comes over to my house? Dude, you couldn't even get Gus to go to lunch with the yesterday. I know.

Where was he, and he was going to lunch, and he wouldn't go with me. He's like, just, no, no. I got you to go to lunch, though. Yeah, we almost went. We drove to lunch. We had a power outage yesterday. Yeah, bye.

Bye, John. We had a power outage yesterday that some guy to pull, like just touched the wire the wrong way. Yeah, someone saw it, apparently just some bloke up the cherry pick and went, oh shit, and then a load of spots rain down

and then all of our power. And that guy's okay, I assume, right? Yeah. This is like our whole business stops. We go outside and there's the electric company working. I'm sure they all have specific duties that they have to do. But when one person is like up on the pole and there's like seven other guys in the shade,

like just sitting there, it's like, can you just like get up there and like maybe you wrap a couple of wires, do you see? And eventually got turned back on, but it just like get up there and like maybe you wrap a couple of wires, do you really? And eventually got turned back on, but it didn't get turned back on until we said, screw it, Gab, let's go to lunch. I think a lot of people had decided to go home because we thought the power would be off a lot longer.

I remember told it would be. Yeah. We told it would be like three hours. So we just went to lunch, got halfway there, found out the power's on and turned back around. It was a nice moment too because we were talking about how cool it was going to be able to go to lunch together. together, then we got my- I'd already upgraded lunch to Bev lunch, hadn't I?

It had. Yeah. And then we got the message that the power's back on, and Gavin goes, oh, and I go, yeah, do you want to go back? Gavin goes, do you want to go back? Nobody wanted to pull a board on the lunch, but then we immediately just turned around and came back. It was a lovely drive though.

It was nice. I guess they'll leave. If you, she was nice enough to get me lunch, and I asked her to talk to you and you had already eaten in the meantime. No, I just skipped it. I was recording. Oh, you just did that?

Yeah. I'm just skipping a lot of meals lately too. I'm doing a purpose a little bit. I don't like having lunch. It's, it takes too long. It takes too long. What takes too long about lunch? What does it mean? Shuffling the food down so I'm ready to record more.

What does it mean? Don't you guys bring in lunch almost every day at this point? Sometimes, and she meant Hunter? Yeah. I mean, you guys recording that much? We recorded today from like 10 until 459. It's, you know, I gotta say, it's really weird. Because for a long time, I dealt with when

we were working on like a merchant and a million dollars butt and stuff like that, I was dealt with this thing of like, oh, Michael and Gavin getting pulled away from the achievement in our office. But when I go into the achievement in our office, it was like, there's like three or four people in there. There's always like somebody else missing from that. And it was, or it was like four o'clock and everybody's gone. I was like, I was like,

record, record now. But then you guys do these huge blocks of recordings, that right? It was very rad that all six are in the same room. So if we're all in, we'll just go, I appreciate it. What's the hold up now? Look what's going on right now that would keep all six of you.

Well, I don't mean specifically right now to have five o'clock, but like what's going on today? Was, did you have all six of you today? Yeah. We're right yesterday. Yeah. Okay. I mean, we were split because they were doing thingy and thingy

and we were doing let's place. Uh huh. I don't know what the other thing was. I'm trying to think. You trying to be discreet? Yeah, I don't know. Do they know that's being made again? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't even know what you're talking about. Patrick, you know thingy and thingy that you filmed yesterday. Thingy? Yeah. They know that that's here. It wasn't halfway. They were filming that. So the reason I wanted to come back from lunch is because Jack and Jeremy and myself were only going to come in if we were all going to make videos the three of us. So I felt bad if I went to lunch for an hour and they were just unable to make videos while the other three were doing here as an half weeks.

Yeah, and then I ended up cutting out. I had to go to a late dinner yesterday and I went home, I got super upset. I got so sad. Remember those fish I've talked about that I got with the house in the pond? He had the pond in the front. I come home and this is,

it was fairly traumatic. Traumatic, the two fish were dead, clearly dead and floating at the top of the pond. I was like, holy shit, I thought, did they die from heat? And then the other one was in there and it was like in really bad shape. So I like called Ashley, she came racing home, I got the bucket, tried to get the fish out,

tried to get it into an environment, tried to figure out what the fuck happened to these fish. And was it scraped up or anything? Nope, nope, they were just dead fish. And the other one was like kind of like, it was in bad shape. It was like flopping every now and then, and then like trying to swim between sideways

and having lots and lots of problems. And I asked Ashley about it. I was like, what's going on? Do we, you know, we fed them just the, yeah, literally the day before this happened on Wednesday. on Wednesday, and she had fed them on Tuesday. And I was just wondering, I was like, what is it? And it's like, why is the water level in the pond so high? I asked that, and the way that the pond is aerated

is what the fountain. Anyway, it turns out, we have people that come work at the house, lady who come works at the house. And in the summer, I think this is what happened. I think this is what happened. She tends to bring her kid. Somebody, somebody, I guess saw that the pond was a little bit lower.

And the pond is like, it's like four feet deep. It's like, I called a pond, it's like a little pool. It's like four feet deep. And it was down like a half foot, but it was down a little bit from, no big deal. But the problem is, we didn't fill it back up on, when we fed the fish that night, because when you're filling it back up with the hose,

you gotta sit there and dump this little chemical in it, that removes the chlorine from it. Just for more, just from normal tap water, right? It has a little bit of chlorine in it, but the fish can't even have that little bit of chlorine for the gills. And I guess somebody, I don't know who, I pulled the hose out of the pond and it was running. So somebody thought they would top off the pool, which probably would have been okay,

but they just left it on and left it running in there and the pool had overflowed and all the treated water, I guess got pushed out and it was just all replaced with tap water. And that killed all the fish. And it was safe like the one that was in the trash. You know, that guy, if he did, little fish died too. That sucked. The two smaller ones in that name, it's one big fish, like a fish this big. And the two little fish.

And it's like, I don't want to put a price tag on a living being, but they're fucking expensive fish. What kind of fish did that? They were coi fish. And I found out the coi fish, we were trying to figure out and we bought the house. We were like, do we want to take care of these fish? Do we want to do that? And were coin fish. And I found out that the coin fish, we were trying to figure out and we bought the house. We were like, do we wanna take care of these fish? Do we wanna do that?

And then we went to like a garden center and they had coin fish or sale. Some of them were like, like 23 hundred bucks. We're like, gosh, for a fish. And this was, you know, this was a big one. I think they get bigger, they are worth more money. So did you have them for dinner? No, kind of how to dare you, how dare you?

Is it way to eat a pet? Probably. They're floating. I tried to save the other one in my sink and then Ashley really tried to save them when she got home. She even got the dead ones out of the pond, put them in the sink trying to revive them

and you know, she's trying what she could. Well, I mean, I would too, because a lot of fish look dead. They can jump out of their fish balls and be dead and then put them back in and they're like, oh, what's up? She's giving a shot. And we could very quickly treat the water

that I filled the sink with because it's a smaller amount of water. She tried, didn't say the fish. So now today, we're going to bury fish. Bury him deep. You've got cats. Well, yeah, I guess. I mean, if a raccoon comes and eats the fish, it's okay.

It's probably better. Okay. I mean, right? Isn't it? I mean, hey, let me take this. Internet has no appreciation for fish as pets. Fish is a legit pet. Cause I said my fish is my, we're made it to eat, my fish is dead, and I'm sad about that.

I said my fish died, which is a weird like, it was plural when I was saying it, but everyone thought it was one fish that died. I said my fish died, and I'm sad about that. Should you have said fishes? I don't know, I guess so. My fish is all my fish died, is what I probably should have said.

And the internet, normally when you post like, oh, I lost my beloved pet, I had a dog for 12 years, and I had to put it down today. Everyone's like, oh my God, I'm so sorry, everything. Nope, your fish dies, you get a bunch of fish punts and fish jokes like, well, that's so hot. Like, well, there's lots of other fish in the sea.

I mean, it's really like, people think you have a shit. They really didn't care at all. They were just like, I mean, some people, of course, were nice. And we're like, oh, I feel so bad for you. Other people were like, fish sticks for dinner. Can you imagine? So what is it about fish? The humans just have, is it because people get fishing?

There's no sympathy. Fish aren't a pet. Fish are a pet. You can, I think the operative word in pet is pet if you can't pet it. It's not a pet. You can't pet a fish Can't put a bird either. I don't think birds are pets. You can pet a bird. I don't think you can you couldn't cup one in your hand And like mush your face on this head that's something you would do. Yeah a little soft part in the back. Yeah a little motion It would just be like it's cute. By the way, that's Nutmeg's new name is Smush. Smush, yeah. We just call her a little Smush.

She's a, she's a very flat cat. Nutmeg is a Siamese cat. And she came with Ashley. She's, her dad had Nutmeg in Utah. We went and got her one day. Traveling with the cats, the war stood. Did it wind the whole way? And it pooped.

Like a fear poop, which is never a good poop. I guess the technique should be scare the shit out of it before you leave. I don't know. Maybe starve the cat for a day or something like that. Like make it jump and shit itself. Actually literally just texted me. I bought us a shovel.

I'm just gonna write, okay. This is so real. It's real, we're gonna be bearing fish. Then you're gonna get some new $2,300 fish? No. We're thinking about getting a bunch of goldfish and putting them in there. Cheap, official.

Yeah, and it's just like, I mean, we honestly, the fish lived for two and a half years with us. I was constantly worried that we were gonna kill those fish. And whatever happened, it wasn't our fault. We called a bunch of different people to see who put the hose in and nobody would own up to it. So, but- Did I do it?

Did you do it? Security camera out there? You know what? Yeah, I'll explain to you later, but I did, but I fucked up on the recording. I had the recording stuff set wrong. You know, and I wish I could have seen it. But then I would just blame somebody,

but I just had like the- No, it's closed, are there? Yeah, I don't know. I think what I did wrong, you know, and I wish I could have seen it. But then I would just blame somebody, but I just had like the, the, no, it's closed to the, yeah, I don't know. I think what I did wrong, Gav, here's something I definitely did wrong. What's that? I asked Ashley if she put the hose in the pond. I asked her one too many times because she fed the fish. So I was like, did you put, did you try to fill the pond with water? She goes, no, no, I saw it was a little bit low, but I didn't have time to sit there and put the chlorine stuff in. So I didn't do that.

And then I was like, man, I don't know how this happened. Yes, and you're sure you didn't put those in, she was, I'm sure I didn't. And like 30 minutes later, I'm like, think of my divin said, I said, if you did put it in, I just want you to know you could tell me. That was what you're gonna get out of that. That was like, that was wrong, right? That was stupid to do that.

Yeah. I can answer that question myself. It was stupid to do that. Yeah. Yeah. She was not happy that I asked the third time. She's like, oh, she did. So, no, that was over.

And it was over. And nobody else owned up to it, so, I don't know. So, if it was a kid, it seems like totally a little kid thing to do. Like, you know, if I feel like it's too advanced for a kid, why would a kid fill upon? No, let me say kid, you know, 10 or 11 year old, you know. The hose is right there, and you just got to walk around where the hose is turned on and then dunk it, you know.

And you know, why would a kid think a water would kill a fish, you know. I'm totally, it's total conjecture. I'm gonna have to go through like a Sherlock thing, like what happened where and this and that? Are you sure it wasn't you? Oh, yes, I'm sure it wasn't me. I'm sure it wasn't me,

because I didn't help Ashley feed the fish and I actually felt bad about that. If it was you, you could tell me. So thank you, thank you. That's the third way you have to ask that question. How are you guys doing? How are all your pets and everything in home? Doing good.

We have a problem in that we love one of our cats way more than the other one. You love me. We love Columbo. Really? Yeah, it's me who's a solid cat. Pro cat, but he's not, he's not cuddly. But all I ever see is pictures of you

with you snugged up on me. I mean, I'll snug him. Yeah. All night, but he doesn't want it as much as Columbo. Well, Columbo will, what, come and climb all over you? Yeah. Yeah. It's weird, because Joe the cat will climb on me,

literally climb on my chest and sit there until I pat him. And when you drew, you drew state at my house when he was here last week, did you get a chance to see Drew? Yeah. And he was wet, because he just went in the pool. That's right. You saw him after his pool adventure. But yeah, Joe took to him instantly, Joe the cat.

And the other cat, not make it super skittish, but we slowly turned her into a loving cat. So we actually like her probably on par with Joe the cat. I just think if the cat's purring a lot, it loves it more and me doesn't pur. Oh, that's a bummer. Yeah, that's why you get a cat for the purring part, right? Columbus top cat.

That's a bit of a... Do you have any pets? Yeah, I have a cat. You have a cat? Sophia. Sophia the cat. Uh huh. Sophia was the name of...

Sophie was the name of Matt and Honest Cat. They got those cats or it was one of the cats. It was Sophie and Romeo. And Sophie, when she died, they died within like two weeks of each other, I think lived like 20 years in there. Oh my God, with the two weeks of each other. Like an old married couple.

And the kids of course were sad, and mass kids were sad, but when the ashes came back and they spelled the name wrong, spelled Sophie wrong, it spelled a spowy, spowy. And it was just like a weird moment of, they were all super sad, but then like the typo, like kind of brought it home or made it a little bit lighter of a moment, they were all laugh about it and everything like that.

So it's weird how that typo helped them. That this little, they're a little urn, they had it with the engraving, and said spoky. So they did it with it. Holly, you've had Sophia. 10 years. Kind of cat, is she? She's just a parallel cat, Don founder in an alleyway.

Paral cat is dangerous, she should, dude. Yeah, so a lot of people are feisty. Is she? Yeah, she's really feisty. Like, she's like, how do they live there? When she's done, she will. Does she come and snuggle up? Yeah.

She's a big snuggler. So, we're all cat people, right? All the dog people watching tonight are gonna be like, so, it's really people. I wasn't a cat person until this cat. I was all dog. I've done the same with Meg in that she was definitely dog. What?

So good. But she's totally a cat person. I was a dog person and then I met Meg. I like, I'm a Meg person. I'm a Meg person. I think, well, that just way easier and they smell good. A dog smells of rank. Unless you've just wiped it.

Yeah, but litter box is smell rank. I mean, it's just... Don't go in there, then. Don't have a litter box. Like, if a dog, a clean dog goes outside, runs about for a minute, takes the dump, comes back in. You've got to wash it. Yeah. Otherwise, it smells like dog wherever the dog goes.

I also feel like dogs are, if you leave them alone too long, it's just, you're a bad owner, right? If you have to spend like 50% of your time at least with the dog if you haven't. And you don't have time for that. You don't even go to the gym, you never been to a gym in your life. Yeah.

I still keep a leave at, never been to a gym in your life. Yeah, I still keep believe that, never been to a gym in your life. Never really had time. Have you ever? Never like, you know, cared enough to apply time to it. Have you ever gone running for exercise? Yeah. Oh, you do that with Meg, right? So you just go on a bit of a jog.

I don't like that either. You can't do it now, it's impossible. Yeah, in August. In August. I walk a lot though, I walk to work sometimes. I'm against a walking degree exercise, maybe. Yes so. It's walking exercise.

I also got a trampoline. Yeah, what are you gonna do with that? Did you get that for the slow-mo guys videos? Yeah, I got it for the video and I never took it down and now I just bounce around on it for shits and giggles. Where'd she have neighbors who were like, you got kids, I was like, no. No, just just two idiots.

I like bounce around trampoline and I'm almost 30. Just tell them, dance your kid. He's got something that we're just ages faster than you. Like a trampoline isn't a toy, but it's weird for just an adult family to have one. I would dance a toy. It's a toy? I think I mean, it's a thing.

Like a $300 big giant thing. It's a kid thing. It's a kid thing. I mean, I feel like a color giant thing is also a bounty castle. B, bouncy castle for kids, right? Oh, they, well, I'm just saying. It's okay if you have one, but you have to acknowledge your kids. If you filled one of those with healing, would it fly off?

I believe so. There's videos online of when a windstorm, like a kid's away. I don't know if it kills kids. Yeah, kids are going away at them. That's scary. Drops them out. Oh, if they't know if it kills kids. Yeah, kids are going away at him. Oh, that's scary. Drops them out. Oh, if they fall out of it. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you would because it'll fly upside out. Or you stick with it and then you land and you've got to. You're sure I can't. It's brave enough to stick with the bouncy castle. No, no. I'm just gonna be heard about a kid dying and that kind of thing. Oh, it happens. All right.

Well, you're super depressing. Thanks for that. Talk about fishing again. Ha ha ha. So how are you guys doing? I haven't seen Megan forever, man. We're doing good? Yeah, we almost got,

you invited her yachting, but not me, so I didn't know about the trip. Well, the yachting turned out to be a sale, but that was first of all. You and seriously, if I didn't invited you, we had a great time, but if I invited you out, and I said, we're going yachting, which is the way it was presented to me. And we actually had, we recorded this part of the vlog

where we talked about how all of us have never been yachting because one of the things that happens with the vlog is when we do stuff that's interesting is that people get upset that money's been spent. I think Michael dealt with this on off topic. He bought a $200 controller, right? Like some spray paint. The thing that was the kind of the touchy part

of the things that we've done so far was we took a helicopter ride for Ash's birthday in San Francisco, and everyone's like, must be nice to be able to take a helicopter ride. The helicopter ride was probably one fifth of the cost of the overall trip. Like to get us out to San Francisco and to stay in a hotel for four days

was easily three times the cost of the helicopter trip. But the helicopter trip is what made the trip memorable, you know? It's like, it's just weird how people key on certain things. I don't know why money is one of those things where people have something to say about how you spend money. Because you earned it. Yeah, do I have the hell you want with it? Yeah, no, I get it. I think it's a, it's a relatability thing, you know, that comes across and they,

they want to try to tell you that you're unrelatable. But I always say too, it's like, if you were, like, followed somebody, if you followed PewDiePie for 10 years, and then you read an article that he's the number one person on YouTube, and you read an article that he made, you know, this enormous salary, you know, which they estimate. And people kind of freak out when that happens, but wouldn't you want the number one guy on the biggest platform in the world to be like paid like other people in other industries?

Like, you know, I forgot when Robert Young, Jim makes 80 million dollars for playing Iron Man for the billionth time. other people and other industries, like, you know? I forgot when Robert and Jimmy say $80 million for playing Iron Man for the billionth time. I have to say so many situations where someone will tell me what they bought. It's like a big thing and I'll be like, I mean, I wouldn't have spent money on that. But I'm not like, I don't have an issue with them.

They wanted that and they like work to save up and buy. So why would I have a problem with it? You know what, that's one of them. That's why, that's one of the reasons why it was never a car person for a really long time. And I can, Alan makes the argument that I didn't buy a car about an iPhone on wheels with a Tesla. But the other thing, he was like,

I don't, I've been the kind of person. You know, for me, it takes me forever to pull the trigger on buying something. Yes. So anything over 300 bucks, I just like, I will sit on it for six months and not buy it and just wait and wait and wait. And I finally bought that robot litter thing that you reckon.

Oh, do you like it? I haven't got it yet. We'll find out. And the, you know, just that process of like waiting to buy stuff, it's like sometimes I feel like, all right, I know I'm gonna need this, I know this will make my life better and I'm just like kind of putting it off and every moment I put it off,

I get less value out of it, really, more than anything else. I found, because I also rarely spend money on pick stuff. I don't ever buy clothes. All my clothes are very high-quality merchandise that I get for free. Hey, your Rick and Morty inspired some of guys shirt, is in the store. It is, yeah, Pilar, I wore it on the podcast a few weeks ago. I wore it because I didn't know that it was for free. Hey, your Rick and Morty inspired some of guys shirt is in the store. It is. Yeah, Pilar, I wore it on the podcast a few weeks ago.

I wore it because I didn't know that it was coming soon. I thought it was out. Oh, there was selling it out to you, X. Yeah, that's why I thought that. And so it was a delayed release to the store. So, and I think it sold out of most of its size like that, almost instantaneously.

That's cool. Yeah, I was waiting to pull the trigger on a TV because I wanted a new TV. Yep. I was like four years in to wanting a new TV and I was like I should just Get one and then I ended up going to Best Buy like 20 times just to look at TVs every so often just to see You know how much they were and like the sizes you could get and on like the 20th visit to Best Buy I was like I should be valuing my time a lot more and I've probably Spent more than the TV in my time

just by wasting time thinking about this TV and not buying it. And I was like, I'm just gonna buy it. No, it's hard, but it was like 18 months of like perusing TVs. Mine a new console, anything like that, you know? I've gotten pretty good, I think about, I don't pre-order anything except for hardware stuff

because I've just learned my lesson. Although, are you excited about this Nintendo, this SNES? Yeah, you are. This game's on it that I don't have anymore. Okay. I had to, like, I lost play some of those games when I was probably eight. So I'm excited to play them again. How do you say it?

How do you say the abbreviation? Snes. You do. You say SNES? Snes. You should be very happy that we're not on a podcast with Gus tonight. Oh, I can flip his, she can't stand it. He hates it.

Everyone in England, I knew Koura's nest. You called a nest? Bit before my time, that one. Really? Yeah. Oh, well, that's crazy. That's really crazy. Didn't know anyone had one.

But the car thing is like, I can never really become a car guy because I saw this happen too many times. I like the idea of that if you spend a certain amount of money, like if you decide, my dad taught me this with hardware, with tools. It's like you can buy super cheap tools, you know, a $20 wrench you can buy for 10 bucks, but it'll break on you in the first year.

A $20 wrench will last you for the rest of your life, for the lifetime guarantee. He was big into tools and all that. So, you kind of, it's still done in me earlier. It's like if you know you're gonna use something and you need it, you know, you should invest in that and get the good one. And the problem with cars is,

cars are like one of the only thing that you can't buy the most expensive one and it's the best. Because if you were somebody who's like, okay, I'm gonna buy a Bentley and you go out and you buy a Bentley. They'll say, the first time you show it to anybody, they'll go, you should have bought a nasty Martin, you know? Or something else that's slightly different, but at that same level. And it's just like, and it's really weird for someone who's going to buy

something like that. I would never want to hear like that. If I've tried to spend like, if I went out and bought like a Ford pickup and bought one, it was like $30,000 to $30,000 in the car, then I'm really here that it's garbage, you know, from somebody else. Hey,000 to $30,000 in the car, then I immediately hear that it's garbage, from somebody else. Hey, speaking of people who drive, how you doing? I'm good. So Michael Jones, everybody, 30-year-old Michael Jones. I owe you so. Thank you, I got 20.

Oh, you keep paying me back. I'll keep the change, Michael. I have a surprise for him. You did? For tomorrow. On the polka. Yeah. You know, one of my favorite things in the world to do is give Ellie stupid stuff to do. And so I like to give her stuff to do that challenges her, her brishness.

So I asked her to do something today. That was very un-brish. I would say so. She had to learn a lot about American culture in order to get it done. But you'll see tomorrow. It takes a time too. It is, yeah. It was like 24 hours. So you know what, Gavin?

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When it comes to money-spending decisions, I always go for where I spend the most time and the things I use the most often in the stuff that I want to be nice. So I have good mattress, good TV, good chair to edit on. No, that makes sense. Sorry, how much would you spend on a toilet? Brandon wants to know. Brandon wants to spend on a toilet? He's spent like a $2200 toilet. He's really nice. I was browsing those anal spray toilets and there's one that cleanses the ball with UV after you're done, that's a bit much. The most expensive one I could find was like 10,500 bucks.

Oh, you posted about that. Yeah, I was like, that's an expensive toilet. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't buy that. No, if it sprayed my asshole, I'd probably put a grand into it. Here's my large and simple thing though. I don'd probably put a grand into it. Here's my logic. I want the whole thing though.

I don't want like a stick on seat. They look like $2,200. $2,200 is too much for someone I'm shitting to. Did you come to the valve movements and then figured out how much it is for, no? Well, I mean, how much? Okay, so how many shits does the average toilet take? The average toilet? Yeah. I don't know, because I think if your shits does the average toilet take? The average toilet? Yeah, I don't know.

Because I think if your shits are more than a dollar per shit than that's too expensive. I would agree with that. Yeah, like if you became constipated, you'd be like, I'm not getting my money's worth. This is bullshit. You do your shits. The average is too high.

I don't know if I go for that. That just seems too expensive. It's one of those things too. It's, I always say there's two things that affect your like tastes going forward. When you have an early job, like I sold luggage was one of my first jobs that I ever had. And because I sold luggage,

I know how what quality luggage is versus not quality luggage. So I probably spend too much money on luggage. Brandon, what was your first job that you ever had? I don't think we actually had that in the vlog, did we? I was a shitty waiter at a shitty restaurant. Way out what'd you do? You wanna say it?

Well, no, I didn't poison anything, but it was just stuff. Thank you for that. It was a weird thing with people in food service admitting that they wanted to put people's food, put stuff in people's food. That's weird to me. Yeah, no, it was just a trashy place. It was a Benagans, and I think I can say that

because they're out of business, but like, they had so many different combinations. I kept getting it fucked up. Like they have secret shoppers, which basically people who kind of work for the company. Oh, I love that job. Oh, yeah. I love that job. And then every report I got was just like, shit.

Really? They were bulldozing the Benagans, so they didn't give a fuck. Why would you say that? It is because I could never remember the different salad combinations. It's one of those places that has like a million things on the menu, because they're not really good at anything. But you didn't write all that stuff down

when people asked for it? Yeah, but it's like they would quiz you. Like they come in and they would ask you questions about the menu and you have to remember off the top of your head, like how much a side salad is. Dollar. Hmm, I think. That is quite a lot to remember. Yeah, remember the Hmm, I think. That is quite a lot.

I remember. Yeah, remember the menu? Come on. That's a big menu. Just remember the goddamn menu. Bed against cheesecake factory. That thing's like a novel. No, there's a lot.

There's a lot of betting. I saw a lot of gross stuff. There'd be guy who come in and order two monocrystals. You remember the monocrystals? Yeah, very well. There's nothing but fried jelly. Yeah. It's a club sandwich with jelly on a Gavin that's deep fried.

Batter jam. Batter jam. Yeah, jam, not jelly, not what you would call jello. But yeah. So, did you ever work any jobs where you like sold anything like manufactured or anything? Yeah, I worked at the Renaissance Festival one year and I sold gargoyles.

So now you always buy the most expensive gargoyles. Yeah, I take a lot of pride in my gargoyle. You sold gargoyles? Yeah, like anyone who can buy a gargoyle. I don't even get a blot of gargoyles. We related items like dragons and shit. I want to fuck a gargoyle now. Do you have gargoyles?

Do you own any gargoyles? I don't get a discount on the merchandise. But you haven't gone forward in your life and thought I always have to have a gargoyle. No, no, now I'm thinking about it though. Are you picky about fruit and veg? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I just wash it.

Well, but I mean, what you select, do you have it, that means nothing because probably someone dropped it. Yeah, probably so. Where do you shop? Like, are you prissy about grocery store stuff? Nah, just HB. HB, that's like our basic grocery store.

It's like a croager, safe way if you're somewhere else. I would have thought you guys would use a grocery delivery service. Well, that's it. They'll go places. Also, it's like the king of like delivery services and ride sharing and everything else. So it gets super addictive of like, oh, I don't want to go grocery shopping. I can pay like seven bucks and have someone do all my grocery shopping for me, you know what I mean? And it just shows up at a certain time. That's really fucking cool.

That was like, that's pretty new, that's like two years ago. It's pretty wicked. And if you, I always thought about valuing time, there's no way to figure out what your time is worth. But if you look at all the things you do, you think it's probably not worth spending an hour to go shopping when I could pay seven bucks to have it brought to me. But then that's a shitty thought. That's like, that's not the future I don't think. What do you mean? It's a shitty mindset, isn't it?

Well, it's like I'm valuing other people's time. It doesn't so much less than your own time But I get really funny tweet that someone put out or I don't know funny is the right word It's made me think where the person wrote Imagine how badly we've screwed up as a species if robots are about to do all of our work, and that's a bad thing. And that's a really good point. It's like, what do we get to the point where robots taking away our jobs

and robots doing all the work that we all do every day? That's a crisis for us, you know? That we've had to make money if you're robots. Well, there you go, exactly. It's because we've all grown up in this environment where you have to have a job and you have to work. It's like a normal thing. But work is like this thing that we just made up

at some point, you know what I mean? It really is like, you know, going to do what we do or, you know, going to run a cash register in a grocery, that's like at some point that was made up thing. And it doesn't even get in the human mind crave work. Like nobody wants to be like, oh, I'm retired at 18. What are you gonna do with the rest of your life? It could be part of the thing.

It sounds awful. It creates food. And I think you're like your desire for food like motivates you to figure out. We're gonna give you food for what? The first before makes food. Do you think that's what it does? Yeah, I think it's the motivating factors.

You need to eat and it's like, well shit, I'm not gonna grow it myself. What can I do for somebody else to grow it? I always look good. I think I can. Ali, are you leaving? Yeah, I don't gonna grow it myself. What can I do for somebody else to grow it? I always look good. I think I can. Ellie, are you leaving? Yeah, I don't know. Where you going?

You're leaving? I wanna talk to you real quick before you go because we were talking about luggage and everything. Like that. Are you in a rush rush? Okay, so we, I'll come back to this point in a second. I wanna talk to you about shark sprinting. But Ellie, Ellie, where'd you shop?

Well, in England. Where'd you shop? Waitress? In England? Yeah, actually. Do you shop at Waitress? Well, Waitress was the closest one and I was too lazy to walk, reacts to like two minutes Trace? In England? Yeah, actually. Did you shop a weight trace? Well, weight trace was the closest one, and I was too lazy to walk the extra like two

minutes to the tasko. So expensive, though. Yeah. So for those of you who are not familiar, Ellie is the reason why the podcast was late today. So just clear that up. Oh. No, no, no, no. So Ellie was, I don't know if I can reveal this.

I think this podcast will be out later, but I wanted Ellie to do this thing for off topic tomorrow. Oh, you're a ridiculous task that you set me. It was ridiculous. It was pretty ridiculous. Well, for cut first, I didn't even know what it was that I had to source. So it took a little bit of research before I could say what it is. I can't, it was totally spoilt. It was totally spoilt. Yeah, it was. We just have a gift for Michael that he's going to love. And she had to go to a very American outlet to get it. I even researched if I could make it, but it only came in like percentages of the original thing that you wanted. So it would have taken out.

When you should have gone to a brainless grocery store where they make all the food. Oh, well. That would have been a good place. So ever since you took this new position, your life is no longer a normal life, I feel like. It, there are some very weird days for sure. Like when I got texts from Bernie being like,

I need four graduate caps and gowns. Quite tonight at six, thanks. Can you get those? He's like, on it. Can you just favor that? No, turn that on. That's one of the most services. No, I mean, you know, see, Ellie started in production.

And so the way we met was, if I recall correctly, it was the million dollars butt episode that was the Jason Bourne one, and we had this interrogation room with the One Way Mirror and everything for the Jason Bourne scenes. I was like, who that? And it was like a office building right around the corner from here, and they had a market research thing that they used. And that's why they had the One Way Mirror. But it was such a cool room. I was like, who found this room? And it was like, they said she did, and it was Ellie. And I was like, yeah, she'd find cool stuff.

So that you cursed yourself. That's always the curse. I'm not about it. Finding cool stuff in a foreign land is difficult too. It is difficult. That's true. But I'm pretty proud of what I've managed to do for tomorrow. I think it's gonna be good.

Oh, you're gonna be on top of the map. It's a step than you want. I am now. You should. It's gonna be good. Oh, you're gonna be gonna be on top of the mic? I'm now, you should, you're gonna be enjoyable. You probably will give a shit. Actually, but we'll be enjoyable. All right. I said you said for Michael's birthday, because I forgot.

What did you do for my birthday? Your birthday? I wish you had a birthday. Thanks. I probably did what I did with most of my friends when I just texted you and wrote, it is your birthday. And that's it.

And then don't text you for another day. Dan's been getting so many happy birthday messages today. It's not his birthday. What happened? He tweeted once that it was his birthday, but because of the time difference, it was still today in America. So they put his Wikipedia birthday as the wrong day.

He can't get anything right. His birthday's tomorrow. He can get nothing right. At least it's close. Yeah. Occasionally, I used to do that on Twitter, I would occasionally just wish somebody a happy birthday, just randomly.

And then of course, then their Twitter meant, especially if it's someone we work with and they follow both of us, their Twitter mentions would explode. Okay, speaking of Twitter, Ellie, we have brought this up before and so if you want me to bring it up to you, why in the world do you check

a bag when we try? Why do you do that? Still. I can't, no, no, not still. I haven't had a chance to redeem myself since that you've been calling me out publicly for that. I would say calling out publicly, I would say, it's an employer review to a wider audience. Well, I was checking your bag because I was actually, well, there's a bit unsure of what the requirements were with flying domestically here, like what you can and can't do. And what were you worried about? What you like taking like aerosols and liquids

and stuff like that. And it's all right for you because you just have to travel with like a comb. But I need to bring things. But now I've talked to Ashley and she's helped me figure out like the good way to travel quickly as a woman. As a woman? Yeah.

Yeah, she, I got in trouble one time. So speaking of gifts, one time I had this bright idea that I would watch Ashley go back and forth with her makeup. Like she had makeup at home and then she for the know when she was going on camera, she needed makeup. So one year for her birthday, I thought, I'm just Christmas or anniversary, something like that. I'm gonna do this thing where I'm just gonna replicate

her makeup environment in both places so she can just go back forth and have her makeup in both places. I had no idea how much makeup is. Yeah. That's ridiculous. It's very expensive. It's very expensive.

It's not hundreds of dollars to the rest of the day. Yeah. Well, to replace a whole set of irregular that you use, probably be a couple hundred at least. I had no, I thought like one of those compacts with the pattern, it was like five bucks. It was like one of the 70s. Yeah.

What? The stuff that's not gonna like, because you put it on every day, you need to get stuff that's not just gonna like fuck up your face. See, there you go. See, you wanna buy the best, make sure it's not acid or chlorine.

Right, exactly. That's a good example of something that we spend good money on. Do you see what we're doing? Do you see what we're doing with the chlorine? You, listen, I actually asked Ellie to help with you with something, because we were traveling somewhere together. And I don't know if we can say it's RTX London, I don't Ellie to help with you with something because we were traveling somewhere together and

I don't know if we can say it's RTX London. I don't know if either one of us has been announced yet, but I had her Most of the pot what Ellie yells at me and close up a piece of shit. Yes, so what was this? What happened? We just like you wanted to fly an American Well, okay, okay, so I British airways. Okay, go ahead. I never fly British always what why American? What that's not true? I I'm like British Airways, I'm like, okay, go ahead. I never fly British Airways. I fly American. What, that's not true. I got this guy. I can just spend miles and get upgraded.

Right, I can't do that in B.A. Yes, you can. No, you can get miles, you can't spend them. Yes, you can. Oh, bollocks. No. Bullshit. This is probably where you're going wrong, Gavin.

All you have to do is call them and then you treat the person at the end of the phone like a person and then they're more willing to help you out. There you go. Done it. They said you can't spend your miles because it's a British Airways operated flight and you can't upgrade to your British. They use the phrase, are you sure there's nothing you can do? What happened to them? It's what she does. And then they go, well, there's probably one how you say it. If you say it sternly, like you're all politely but sternly, you know, like British way,

then they take a few minutes and they go, hang on, let me check. And then they come back five minutes later or something after you've been on hold for a while and you've been about your own business. So who are you talking to? You talking to BA or American Airlines? I'm talking to BA. I'm okay. Because I was to go through American Airlines.

Yeah, they were like, oh, there's nothing you can do and fuck you. British Air was like, I'm ever so sorry. See, I went to American, they said to go through American. Yeah, they'll go like, oh, there's nothing you can do and fuck you. British, I was like, I'm ever so sorry. See, I went to American, they said, go screw yourself. Then they put me on to BA and they said, you've got no miles with us. They're with America. So what's the situation now? I'm figuring it out now.

So here's what I wrote, right? I was very specific because if you're not clear, then you're to blame, right? So we were like doing this thing and then we're like, can you do this? And I was like, yeah, I need to fly on American Airlines. And then I thought, that's not specific enough because you can book co-chair through American, but it might be operated by British Airways.

This is so specific, right? So I said, yes, but I need to fly on American Airlines operated flight. And that is the specific, as I should get. And I'm a BA. So then I was like, well, I'm not flying American now. No, you're not. You're flying on the same flight as every single person

from this company going to RTX London. And you're the only one that's being extra about not being able to use free miles to upgrade. You're like right under the bus. The miles I earned, and it means that I can sleep in a bed flying. But you can do it. You just have to go a little couple extra steps and be nice to people.

Should we listen to Ellie because she has a posture accent? Yes. I don't look. There's no way on this flight on BA that I'm going to be in business class. If I, what would you do? What would you give me if I get your business class? Mm.

I would give you a business class ticket. Would you? I bought with my own money. If you get it, if she gets you upgraded a business class ticket. Really? I bought with my own money. If you get it, if she gets you upgraded to business class, you would buy her a business class ticket to go over there. Yeah. So you just announced that Ellie's going to RTX London. That's what you're saying?

You're not going? No, I don't. Yes. Yes. I don't think I can travel to RTX London. And my assistant and producer who lives from the UK would not come with us. It's not, that would be quite me. If I said that I would you be mad if I said you're from London, that would have made you mad. No, no, no, I'm so well, I grew up in Kent and then I went to school in

London, so I sort of, I'm from both, but it's just easier to say from London. Here's the thing, it's not that I have to fly business club. England is my city. If you're going somewhere for work, if you've slept on the way, then you're gonna be like bounce here and more, in work form when you get there. I can use, I fly a couple days. But if we have the choice, and I know I'm gonna get the upgrade on American, for free, and we don't have to spend,

company money on an up-to-date. It's a proper argument ever. Then if we have the choice, but the flight put me on American, I'll happily fly to town. But what I'm gonna do is you should be me on American, I'll happily fly to town. But I wouldn't do that. You should be operated by American.

A normal person reading that is going to know the distinction. So what's the other distinction? Please fly me on a plane with American Airlines written on the side of the plane. How would I explain it? I would explain it. But I mean, something like I would rather go indirect to get my free upgrade because I'm extra. I've got the miles to spend.

Why wouldn't I spend them? Because we're a direct flight. Like most people would rather have a direct flight than you would fly a lot though. All right. So you're okay with your okay with the connection? It depends on the connection. Like to Dallas, that's like you're up you're down now. Just do it again. I hate that part of it. Flying. Sleeping. It's great. I booked that flight because the entire company was going on that one flight, on that day,

and it made, didn't make sense to me that one person would be upset about it. I hope that the two of you can work it out, because I think you can do it. I'm gonna get you that flight. This is why my organization,

you're gonna owe her a very expensive business class to get a better case. I regret that. You're doing your, you're doing your, it's my own business. But if you had to pay for that,

that's stupid amount of money. That's stupid. That was a big bet you just put it through out there. See, I get this shit your reputation now because now I'm like fussing about the thing that I was the spiss, what? So Gavin. So, Gavin, in the first place.

So Gavin of business class cannot fly with the pions in economy. Oh, happily flying economy. I'm just gonna be crabby when we laugh. I will deal with your crabby-ness. Where am I, look? Am I in business class? Yeah. I will happily fly an economy. I'm just gonna be crabby. Where am I when we laugh? I will deal with your crabby-n-es. Where am I, look? Am I having a business class? Yeah.

I am? Well, I'm gonna get both of you free upgrades because I'm nice to people. Okay. I'll take it if I can get it. Nice. Do you think I wouldn't be nice to someone on the phone? How have you ever spoken to me on the phone?

No, but you have anything speaking to you in real life is nothing to go by. Wow. It's really brutal. She's spoken to you over emails, kind of like the modern day phone. You said to me that the day, that sounds like a lot of extra words I'd have to use. And that is the reason. Okay, so that's the thing that I don't have.

I don't have like the fluff that goes around. It's not a fluff, it's just saying hello. Sorry, I have a bit of a problem and I was wondering if you could help me out. See, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't do that. No, you wouldn't. No, no, because that's no information there. Well, that's the beginning of the conversation, Gavin.

That's not the whole thing. I'm not supposed to guess the rest. You just throw in a load of extra fluff around the bit you want. For me, it'd be like, I need help with an upgrade. Yeah, I know. And then it's like, oh, this asshole. But that's not rude. That's just me being like, how's that rude?

How's that rude? Let's see, Meg got to go at me this once because I caught up a dry cleaner and I said, hi, what time are you open to? Cool, thanks. And she was like, oh, yeah. And I was like, what? She's like, oh, I would have been like, hi, I'm just wondering and all this stuff.

And I was like, but what is that achieved? That's just wasting their time. No, it doesn't. It cheesed people being feeling like not only they're providing a service, but like people actually think that they're people. And that's nice. That's nice to be thought of as a person,

and not like, hello, Gavin need clothes, when clothes? It's me, the Gavin. Gavin need pickup clothes, when shop clothes, thank you. I mean, it's not that bad. It sounds like it's like- That's how it comes across. When you're at a hotel, and you have to call the front desk, or if you're gonna order a room service, or whatever,

do you tell them what room you're in when they pick up? No, because they know what room you're in. I know that, but it's like, I always tell them what room I'm in. I feel like that's fluff. Like that is, I know that they have that information. That isn't fluff because it's actual information. Like there's actual like data.

Yeah, you can't get any data from, hi, I was just wondering if something, you know, there's nothing there. Most people aren't just in search of data, but trying to connect with other humans. You're not trying to get something out of this. You need to think about the story, like this guy's been sat at the dry cleaners all day, right? And he's just been giving people bags of clothes and it's boring. And he gets a phone call and he's like, oh, a human to talk to. And you're like, hello, when does your store close?

Thanks. I would disagree. I would think someone would be like, someone in retail doesn't want any interaction with a human and they want all interactions to be as brief as possible. So they can crack on with their crossword or stuff. We are not just a bunch of gavans walking the earth. So if you were working at Waitrose, and you're in Fruit Veg, you would prefer I just walk up to you and go squash. And I said, no fluff.

And you go right there. I'd be like, spaghetti. I find like, it's more of some emotion. But I'd, I'd, I'd want more if, I'd want just the information. Yeah. I see where you're coming from Gavin. I would ask, I would want to say where?

But this hand. And respectfully. I've got to add more fluff to my life, apparently. You've got to have more fluff. Well, you're buying Elliott business class ticket. Where did gonna have more fluff when you find Elliott with this fluff. Where did you get your fluff from? Oh, I don't know, probably my dad. That is a good point.

Well, like, how did he get raised? It's like negotiation, isn't it? It's like Northern. No. It's probably one of the way this fluff came from. Okay, you want to talk about stuff that like if you get, if you buy the best thing, it ruins you for it. She worked in a coffee shop.

And she now is very super picky about coffee. She's very, very, very picky about coffee, which I benefit from because you get great coffee. But she was also, by the way, no offense, a terrible coffee shop employee. No, I was terrible. Why? I tried to quit and they graciously fired me and I didn't even realize I was being fired.

I was like, oh my gosh, thank you. All right, fly. I tried to build my two weeks notice because I got my job here. And then they were like, you can just leave. And I was like, great. And then I got home and was like, hang on. She had a new taste test

where she would make notes of what the coffee is. It's a very pretentious coffee shop in town. That's a couple of them. And so she had to sample the coffee in the right. It has notes of cedar and lavender. Molding lavender. And it tastes like this. You'll appreciate this, Gavin.

Every time they made her do that, it tastes like she would write coffee. Every time. Every time. So they fired her. You got fired because you lost your fluff. I had lost my fluff along the way, somewhere. I would also like quite visibly sigh

when someone entered the room and that was difficult. Someone walking up, like, oh God, I have to make it. Hello. Oh, you mean the customers? Yeah. Oh, that's not going to go wrong. Right, so if the customer came in and they wanted the interaction to take 30 seconds

instead of three and a half minutes. I didn't provide. But wouldn't you rather have a shorter interaction with the customer? Well, but I'm not supposed to. They're supposed to be like, hello. But as a human, though, when you be... You're about humans.

You're about human interaction for you is the worst thing that's ever happened to you in the history of our relationship is we had an elevator writer. Remember, it's so well. We're in the parking garage at the Congress building. We got on the first floor, we rubbed the eighth floor and I talked to a lady in the elevator who was with us. And when she got off the floor before,

she said, that was horrendous. Like, you couldn't believe that people would talk in a lift together. You're just so trapped, you can't do anything. Everyone else has to listen to you. It's polite to not say anything in a lift. Just stare straight ahead, right? Well, that, because you're just forcing someone to listen to a conversation.

So there's a YouTuber that I like. And I recently wrote in an elevator with this YouTuber. And I got in, they said hello to me. I said hello back. Then somebody else went to get in the elevator and they stopped those people from getting in the elevator and said, take the next one. And I'm in the elevator. That's wrong, right? That's weird and wrong, right? Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was bizarre. And I, I, I like this person. Well, that, that's it. You know, this is possible. No. Yeah. Just like the next, no. I mean, that was like a blip. See, that to me sounds way worse than anything I've done,

either in personal or over email. I don't, all right. Yeah, that's fair. That's definitely it. That's your floor. I'm never trying to be rude. I'm just trying to be just information. So let me ask you a question.

Yeah, let me ask you a question. You have, so my guys obviously is this big, huge operation. I mean, it's a big show. You actually have a really cool thing going on where you have a new YouTube red show, like that's one of the flagship shows, because they're doing new shows that are YouTube red shows, but they're on the main YouTube platform.

Yeah, so it's like a really cool thing. Not behind the paywheel, but still. Are you like super pressured about that? Pressure? You feel pressure? Like, because you're one of the first ones. When they announced your show, they announced a thing with Katie, I don't know, I'm trying to remember it,

that thing, they announced you, a thing with Katie Perry, a thing with James Corden, and then somebody else, I was like, holy shit, that's like Gavin's up there with heavy hitters. Pressure's on, but press this good. Yeah, you good? You ready for it?

Yeah, come on, wait. I was trying to think about this the other day. What was, oh, Ellie, thank you so much. And thank you for the, well, you'll see tomorrow. Hopefully if it works out, we'll see. So what were the, I'm stressing the day. What were the shows or the channels that started basically

in the same era as Slomo guys? I'd like the gimmicky ones. I'm just saying, like what are some shows? Like was I always rush out of the thing? Yeah, I think you get that one. Epic meal time maybe around the same time. Yeah, I don't really know. I wasn't a big YouTube watcher when I started,

so I wasn't really, there's a lot of stuff that's gone away. That isn't big anymore. It's so funny too, because it's, you know, we were, a lot of times on the vlog talk about like, getting started doing stuff, game time was all about how people got started in their careers. I think we talked about this on the game time you and I did, but when you were starting slow-mo guys, one of these that can slow you down in those early days is somebody else does something similar that you already have in your head.

In fact, immersion the first episode that we did with the third person car, I was in a rush to make that video because I was positive somebody else was gonna make it. And then as soon as I made the video, Freddie called me, Freddie Wong called me and he's like, I was gonna make that video. I was like, I knew somebody else was working on this. I'm sure, had it in their head. And when you see somebody else doing an idea

that is similar to yours that you haven't yet started on, it can really put the brakes on you. Like our show break room and we saw Wreck It Ralph, we were like, fuck, now we can't make the show because it's gonna look, or whatever, but you shouldn't do that, because I remember we had been talking about what became Slamo guys for a while,

and then some other website put out a thing where they had a Slamo video like once a week or something like that, but it was really specific, they would just break something. It was an escapeus show, it was called The Daily Drop. I remember it well, I just didn't want to bring it up, I didn't know if you wanted me to bring it up. I see, I met those guys and I told them the story.

Yeah, I met them at Charles' play, Charity Dinner. Really? Yeah, in Seattle? Oh, that's really cool. I haven't been to that in a really long time. The thing is that, I just don't go to Seattle very often anymore. I was like five years ago. Oh, okay.

We'd already shot a lot of stuff And also I'd already been putting out slow mo for years before the channel started Mm-hmm since like 2004 was when I put up the first one and I just uploaded it and hosted it myself Put it in my journal. Yeah, and then I ended up on a break Yeah, they would just take it and lift it. Yeah, so we've been doing stuff for a long time, and then I actually started shooting some of guys. I wanted to have like 10 videos done before we started uploading them. And during that period of where we'd started shooting,

but before we've uploaded this other slowly drum. Yeah, came on and you were like, act fast or something, you said something like that. Yeah, better hurry or something that I wrote you about it. And I think I put up a video the next week. But yeah, there's no point in being put off by that stuff. You can, like a bunch of people can do the same stuff and do it well in their own way.

Yeah, I mean, Steven's subject is a great example of that because even though he doesn't call his stuff vlogs, I think most other people classify it as a vlog, but it's just so different. It's just like, do you watch, do you watch much of Steven's stuff? Yeah, I haven't watched this one. Yeah, it's, I got hooked like immediately

when I started watching that stuff. And it's funny because when he's like, on shows like on the spot and everything, it's very mixed reaction, you know what I mean? Because there's people who are, it's always like that though. We have a lot of people like that in the family though. I feel like Greg Miller is polarizing.

Which makes no sense to me, you know, because it's weird because outside of our family, Greg Miller is seen as this icon in the industry. The gamer of the year. Anytime Sony has a press conference or something like that, he's hosting the thing and everything. And then inside of our family, he has taken on this villain role and he's really good at it. But there's a lot of people like, fuck it, he's Gregfiller. Can't stand him. You know, and- We all love him though. Oh yeah, absolutely.

It's because he does that. It's not everyone is willing to take on that villain heel role. I think we established that too and the first thing he was in, right? The gauntlet season two. Yeah, he jumped right in with gauntlet season two. Yeah, with the whole camping thing, we're like, oh my god, we have a villain.

I guess this is how reality TV works. Yeah, we just try to find the- We just try to find the- Who is the easiest person on the show. We didn't have anyone that loud. Yeah. And the entire company. Yeah, I mean, we had a lot of people who were willing to take off their shirt when they probably shouldn't take off their shirt.

But yeah, he's, yeah, he, it's, I always like someone who can go all in, you know? Yeah. And the subject's like that. He's all in on everything. He's doing, you know, it's just, I did on the spot. Yeah, they were talking about it and I said, well, instead of just like having him on the spot, just like having him host,

but don't say anything about it, just having to do like a full show is John Reisinger. So, it's pretty funny. We had a thing we bumped an episode of on the spot that we did, which was a drag episode. We had a local, it was cupcake local. Yeah, cupcakes local, right? So we had cupcake guests, local drag performer, and she's great. She was a lot of fun, and we did this episode. And then it's so, it's, it's environment today,

with Donald Trump is crazy. It's so crazy. Everyone is so ahead. He's got a hell of a week so far. Well, we shot the show on Tuesday. We were gonna put the show on Thursday, Wednesday, right? And in the time between when we made it and we were gonna air it, Donald Trump came out with his executive order that bands all trans people from military service.

Came out on Twitter with it, but it sounded like he didn't really talk to anyone in government or anyone in the military. So there are people who are actively serving, who are transgender and that, and that, and that's superious, have no idea where it's coming from. It's just on Twitter. He can endanger lives with tweets like that. And I believe, I believe that he has an innate ability, even if he doesn't realize it, he understands media on an organic, basic fundamental level in a way that a lot of people don't.

And the process by which he got elected and the way he does stuff like this, there's always news about him. And then he can just make some tweet, everybody gets furious about it. And they're so distracted for a day. And then the next day, there's something else distracted. The problem is, in this one, the distraction is like,

like you said, it takes an entire portion, a community in our population, and throws them right under the bus, and sets us all back just so we get like, a little bit of attention distance from the last event that we had. It's super frustrating, super frustrating. And even like the scout leaders had to apologize

for his speech at their event or something. Didn't that happen? Yeah. Because all he did was brag about winning the election. Yeah. And it's like, I think it's, it's right, because in this environment, you get the feedback a lot I know. And I get it as well by being political or whatever.

But there's some points points it's like, when it affects actual people and it affects them, I feel like we have a responsibility to say something and say something that's supportive. And with this thing, it's like the timing of this episode of On the Spot, it's really weird because transgender and drag, they're not the same thing.

They're not related in any way. And but at the same time, it was, we found ourselves in a position where we felt comfortable with it. We wanted Patrick, I mean, correct here. We felt good about it. And we had cupcake there and everything. And it was more so, it was just in the in the world to put that thing out So we bumped it to the following week. We can put out next week to think yeah, we'll put it out next Wednesday

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or anything. I mean, it's a craft. And there's a process to it. And they learn it and they perform and they hone it as they go. And, you know, as you elevate your craft, you find yourself, you know, there's some drive performers who make incredible livings doing it. I mean, look at RuPaul. RuPaul, you know, exactly.

And you're an enormously popular show. Yeah. And so what when we designed this episode we Took that into consideration that we wanted it to be about Direct performing and not about just the guys being in wigs and dresses and trying to kiss each other because that never even happened really No, so it was um it was more about you know just having that fun and that's why we included Cupcake, who is great. And because we wanted someone who actually does this

and it was kind of like the challenge of like, can you beat this real performer? And that's what the show is all about. Yeah, there's a certain segment that's like I would be so intimidated to do it. Like, you know, with a go head to head. But I will say it's going you know, going back to the very beginnings of this company, you know, me and Gus and Jeff and Matt and Joel Lesso because they

were on the film side of the company and Lesso on the video game side of the company. We always had a thing even in our days of like website reviews when we talk about video games, we didn't like putting scores on anything. We never did reviews for that. And at Rysha Teev, we've never done that. Like, even the node doesn't give you a review and tell you this game is a good game. This game is a bad game. Our approach has always been,

and I'm sure there's been times we've talked about, of course, things we don't like, but our approach has always been that we want to focus on things that we like. We want to celebrate things that we like. And that's always been our approach, because we don't wanna tell you, like if you like something,

we're not gonna tell you not to like it, you know? So that extends out to everything else we do. Like when we hit this episode, it was a very celebratory episode, and everyone, the energy was really great, and everything, but then it was like, all right, let's maybe put a pin in it till next week, because maybe celebrating right now

is not the correct approach to this particular community because of what they're having to deal with from the executive, you know, to point it on down. Because a lot of the time, I don't wanna waste the position I have in the world. Like, there's a lot of people following on Twitter. So if something horrendous happens with Trump,

you know, like yesterday or whatever, I still want to voice my opinion about it. Yeah. And I think it's important for me to not say nothing. And you know the people who disagree with you. So even though that's not what they followed me for, I'm really we were all in entertainment. They're not gonna follow me for my beliefs.

But it's a waste of the people following to not express disappointment. That kind of thing. And I've been wondering too, it's like, what's the level at notoriety where you're no longer a human with an opinion? There's a point where people say, hey, you stupid celebrities,

you know, whatever, I'm not saying talking to us, I'm saying talking to like, Alec Baldwin, you know, hey, you stupid celebrities, don't weigh in on politics, it's not why we like you. It's like, still a human being, but the job that, you know, gets him a lot of notoriety, but it's like, what's the level of, what's that level of fame where

it's just like, oh, your, your opinion shouldn't be voiced anymore, you know? And I don't know, it just seems like it just seems like the only, uh, measuring stick for that is whether or not they agree with you, which tends to be the thing. And with any controversial, there's now this, like, such a, like, a polar separation on, it's not even a spectrum, where if you don't say anything, you're ignoring it or sweeping it under the bus. And if you say anything at all, you should shut up because nobody wants to hear your opinion. Not saying anything feels just, it feels way too safe, but we definitely do have to walk

that line, especially in like plays. It's a good point. It feels safe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you're safe to not say anything. Yeah. But in Let's Play's, if ever we mention it, majority, like 90% of the comments are, I'm not subscribed to what you play Minecraft and talk about politics.

Sure. Which is fair play. We can't force that. Right. And we can't just keep doing it because people will lose interest. It's just like finding the right balance. Yeah. But yesterday was garbage.

Yeah. No, no, no, absolutely. Yeah, but yesterday was garbage. Yeah, no, no, no, I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. Anybody that basically boils down to me is basic human rights. And I don't know how you could tell an American that they couldn't have the same rights as someone. They're gonna fight for the country

and you're not gonna let them do it. I mean, am I a bit, anybody who wants to fight for the country, that isn't me, let them do it. That's my approach. Am I correct in saying that he didn't fight for the country at any isn't me, let them do it. That's my approach. Am I correct in saying that he didn't fight for the country at any point? I would say you are correct. And there's a lot of allegations that he got deferments and avoided some obligations that he had to the military.

I think he got up to like five deferments. Like I think the first ones were first school and then the last one was for his foot. His foot? He's got a foot thing? Foot thing. The. His foot, he's got a foot thing. Foot thing. The healthy standard. He never be president has a foot thing. The scary thing about putting it out over Twitter,

he put it out in like three parts. And in the first tweet, it didn't say anything about transgender people. It was just very open-ended about talking to my generals, the United States will not stand for this. And there were people in the government, the Pentagon who read it, we're like, oh my God, are we going to war? And it was like a full 11 minutes before he specified or before he explained it.

Like it's scary to announce something that could just cause chaos and cause panic. Mm-hmm. And maybe we feel like immediately worried about their livelihood. So, so yeah, so that was, that, so that was something that came up this week. And I'm sure there'll be something by the end of the week, you know? Between the time that we record this podcast and it comes out, there'll be something new. And they'll wonder why we're talking about this old issue

that doesn't matter. I am trying very hard to always see the other side of the argument on everything. Are you? Yeah, because Twitter shows that down your throat. You always get people who are just like searching the tags, you know, searching Donald Trump. And there were flights, anything that anyone says who has a verified thing. But it is interesting to see everyone else's other side, like I did that hunting tweet

the other day. Sure. Interesting. Yeah. It's not, I mean, it's important not to be just like blindly spewing this and then not reading any of those responses. I agree with that. I think there's times where I don't do that and this would be one where I don't. Actually, like you go look up, um, when looked up, old images from the civil rights, when the National Guard had to walk black students into what were all white schools as they were going through mandatory integration.

And you know, you can see these people that are lined up screaming. Like, you know, other white students or white people from the community and they're just screaming. You can see like the hate and the anger in their face. Still photographing their mouth is open and they're screaming and yelling.

And it's just, I'm not sitting there trying to figure out what their side of the story is. You know, it's just, I'm not sitting there trying to figure out what their side of the story is. You know, it's just, I'm not looking back at history and thinking, yeah, they were dealing with a lot of change. And I think we're really, you know, progressing super fast. And they were dealing with, they're just wrong. They're just, that's it. And it's, I think it's okay to say that. They're wrong. Just surrounded by the same people. So they think they're right. Right. And it's, and I just think it's, I think it's okay on some fundamental things like telling someone

that they can't serve in the military because of the way they identify with a specific gender. It's just, it's, it doesn't make any sense. It just doesn't make any sense to me. And I'm okay with saying that's wrong. That's wrong. I mean, it's such an internal thing anyway. It's not like that's being forced on anyone else. And it's just so weird we have to go through this with like, I mean, is everyone gonna have to go through this? Everyone who's not conformed to like this one specific thing? It's like, I would think if we go through this enough times, like we went through don't ask, don't tell, you know, we went through civil rights. At some point, it's like a momentum where it's like, all right, everybody's okay. Like, it's just, you know,

I think that's why everyone's kind of re in from this is because it felt like we were making so many, so much progress. Yeah. And we were like crossing off these things that were, you know, taboo before. And then all of a sudden, now we're just rolling back and we're just watching it happen. And it's, it's scary.

Yeah. And that leads to other things where there was like a panic about some federal ruling where they, they, they ruled that the Civil Rights Act on a federal level does not protect LGBT employees from discrimination or something like that. But then people were saying, well, the protections are on the state level anyway. They're not on the federal level. So it doesn't matter. But it's like, I mean, it's like a day of just like, you know, all this horrible news coming out. And it's just seems to be never ending.

And I feel like now we're contributing to it by talking about it. And all this stuff is going to be talking about cats. I'm just getting worried. I'm so worried how numb I'm getting to it all. Yeah, every day is a new and sane thing. And then you just, you're just like, oh, it's like another just horrendous day. But it's just one of many. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just, you know, it, but it's just one of many. Yeah, yeah. It's just, you know, it's weird how quickly it all came about. It all just came together to pass. I wanna go back and talk about something though that we talked about earlier, which is this concept of work and how we did construct that at some point, but somehow the idea that we're gonna lose it overall.

I understand if we're gonna work based society and individual people start to lose their ability to work, that that's a problem because that's the way society works. But this idea that robots would come and take away all of our jobs is now somehow a bad thing. As opposed to what's looking of like, hey, how the fuck do we speed this up? And make sure robots take all of our jobs.

What's the job? It's too generally, all jobs shouldn't be robots. Some jobs definitely, like cleaning sewer pipes. That could be a robot. Sure. It's like stuff that's just sort of beneath pipes. That could be a robot. Sure. It's like stuff that's just sort of like beneath what a human would be happy doing.

But it's like the people are very, very dangerous jobs, kind of thing. Like nobody should be like scraping out, you know. Tim personally, I don't believe any job is below anybody. Like I'm one of those people that, it's like I've never been, I've had a job every day since I was 17 but I've never been worried about losing my job

because I feel like I could go work. Like I would go wash dishes or, you know, dig ditches or something like that. That I would be fine with it. Doing that. I think there's no ability in any work at all. Well, this comes to people who are very happy with their job and it might not be a job that you'll happy with.

But surely there are some jobs that humans at this point shouldn't be doing. Well, what do you mean, ideal society, where no one had to work robots did everything and we could spend our time, you know, living our own life? I feel like the human mind doesn't like that. Like look at Minecraft, right? The game is working. When you have everything that you need and you've got all this automation, there's nothing left to do in it. When you've got a block of diamond, it's not fun to plan anymore. Getting to the point and working up to it to completion, that's what minecraft is, that's what it is, that's the fun bit. You're working towards the goal. Yeah, but don't

achieve the goal. There's nothing left after that. Especially, you're topped out at that point. Yeah, like if I was perfectly satisfied with everything I've achieved, on my current age, I would hate that. You've always got to be working towards the new thing. What do you want to do? Do you have anything left on your list? Why am I having fun doing this? Yeah, but what like 10 years from now?

I don't know. You know? But I'm not going to be retired. I mean, it's I get it because today is the, when we're recording this, is the 10th anniversary of the guilt coming out. This was one of the first videos posted 10 years ago to say in the show. And I believe for six seasons, very important show in the history of web series. And I think it's one of those great examples of in the history of web series. And I think it's one of those great examples

of in the history of research, where we weren't number one, you know, we weren't the number one destination, we didn't have the number one series, but the story of research, he's over time has been this one of longevity. It's that while we were chasing the tale of other people, eventually,

you know, there were other series that we were chasing, you know what I mean? I had a very consistent presence in web video, but the guild was like a juggernaut, you know, there were other series that we were chasing. You know what I mean? And we always had a feel of very consistent presence in web video, but the the guild was like a juggernaut, you know, it was this absolutely huge thing. And lasted for six seasons, but it's like, I look at your thing a lot too. It's slow, guys, where, you know, you're how close you do a dime and play button at this point? Less than 500,000 steps. Yeah. And I think we cross 9 million about the same time pretty close, but we're like, I think the Rue Chitit I'm talking is like 9.1 on YouTube.

Which is to talk about the Rue Chitit channel in general. Like we're thinking about doing some different stuff with that. There's a lot of stuff on there, including this. I mean, we're already munking you with like formats of podcasts and stuff like that. But some of the guys, it's really impressive to me because it's, are you impressed by the same power of it? Of how long it stayed enormously popular? Because very few things do that.

I certainly feel very lucky. Yeah. Yeah, it's not like, if the graph is like this, there's been tons of channels that are way bigger in a much shorter time and then they trail off down. I'd much rather be the slower climb. We've had viral hits that, you know, propel us further, but- You have these like stair steps with the viral hits, but we've never had, you know, like hydraulic press levels of growth. Yeah, you've never had the period where like every single slomo guy's that gets put up ends up on the front page of Reddit or gig or whatever it was at the time,

right? Yeah. And if it does, it's a gif, Reddit or dig or whatever it was at the time, right? Yeah. And if it does, it's a gif, though. It does, it's a gif, right. And someone mentioned somewhere in the comments that it's a slow mo guys. Yes, you haven't had that. So you've had, I think in a more elevated way, you've had that steady growth as well. Yeah. Just a new other Rupert team.

Yeah, we talk about, we talk about the, you know, the R Usher to the channel in general. Because right now it's podcasts. There's even now video game stuff on with Tuesday night game fight. There's animated shows as well. There's live action shows, vlogs, things like that. It's like, it's a lot. It's a lot of different formats. And I look at something like SOMO guys.

If I go to SOMO guys, I'll watch a video. I know what kind of video I'm gonna watch. And I also know I'm gonna see two dudes, and that's what I'm gonna see. There you go right there. That was video guys posted last week. God, look at you there. You're just such a kid there.

But, you know, and I think, honestly, I think that's actually the format that YouTube likes the best. I'm talking about YouTube channels now. I'm just talking about our site or our platforms or anything like that. But YouTube definitely seems to like a very, very focused presentation of content.

And so we're, I'd be curious to hear people's thoughts if they're watching this. It's hard to do that with a Rue Chuget. It's hard when you walk on something to think of it from an outsider, but you've got to identify why people are subscribed. Like people are subscribed on slow-mo to see two dudes, sometimes one, if one wasn't available, bits set up, bit of slow-mo, a couple of jokes. And I've tried never to change that, keep that going the whole time.

Sure. But when you've got a variety channel like Rucity, this is much harder to identify what people subbed for. They all subbed for. They all subbed for different things. They all sub for different things. So there's no way that all the views, that all the videos are gonna get all the views of the same level. Because that's different shows.

And there's people that are like subbed for shows that we don't make anymore. You know, or subbed for Rucities for shows that are now on other channels. But that's also not a mistake. Like that doesn't mean the channel is bad. No. Because YouTube has changed so many times,

and the algorithm has changed so many times, that it's still one of the most successful channels, even though it has a totally different setup to my channel, which has almost the same amount of subscribers. Yeah, there's just so many different ways of doing it. You can say more. Slightly more. Ha ha ha ha.

Yeah, that's really awesome. I can't wait to see what that diamond play button looks like. It's gonna be really cool. Yeah. You think it's gonna take you like a year to get it when you hit it? If you knock on one, if you... So, hopefully not.

Have you, I know you. Have you, like, done in the like, trajectories of when you might think you might hit 10 million subs? You don't even look at it, huh? I figured you would have plotted that out and tried to figure that out. Not from me. I mean, the way I've always done it is because

I'm full-time at Ruciteath. Yeah. It mean, the way I've always done it is because I'm full time at Rooster Teeth. Yeah. It keeps Slumber Guys as a hobby almost. Crazy. It's treated like a hobby still, because I have fun. It's so crazy Gavin. Yeah, so I'm not always,

I mean, I'm much more often look at the subs and trajectories of, let's play a Chimin Hunter on Rooster Teeth, than Slumber Guys, because that's my job. So, 10 years from now, you're doing Slumber Guys. That you look down 10 years from now, you're doing slow mo guys. That you look down the road 10 years, you're okay with that.

If I'm still doing it, yeah. Yeah? Same format, same everything, you know, you and Dan. Yeah, maybe slightly high budget, but yeah. Maybe not Dan. Don't be else. No, so you'd be totally happy with that. Yeah, but would you not be happy if you was still doing Rucyth and 10 years?

I, you know, it's weird because if you ask me in year five and now it's year 15, I would've said, oh, ten years we'll see, but this company's changed so much, man. I mean, it's like, it's really different. You know, somebody made a really good point on Reddit when they were talking about the evolution of the content. On Ristatis, the guy said, it's like, it used to be this kind of content,

then it became this kind of content, then it's this kind of content. Now it's this kind of content. And somebody said, yeah, but we still have all the other three layers. We still get the other content, we just now get new content as well. And it's true, it's like,

it's really, I'm very grateful for the fact that if I wanna go sit in a writer's room for Red vs. Blue and throw out Donut and Kaboost jokes that I can go do that, because that show's still being made, you know? And I like that I can walk from one channel onto the next one with less than a minute to spare. Well, to spare. Do we have a minute to spare, Brandon?

It's a negative eight minutes. This is exactly what we talk about when we get babs anyway. So this has been a successful podcast. I would think so too. I don't know. I don't know if the two person format is someone to do, but it's always fun to play with things a little bit. And I wanted to do this just because, yeah.

And pretty much exactly what you were just saying. This hasn't taken away the Monday podcast. Right, exactly right. It's additional. Just two guys sitting around, jogging about dead fish. What are we gonna do next week? Well, just Gavin read a book for an hour.

No, next week we'll be gusting Bobber, right? Yeah, next week, next week I wanna try doing the Monday podcast, the traditional crew. I don't know what you call it, Gus Gavin, Bernie Barb. And then Thursday have the same cast again, like the two podcasts in one week. Well, see what has happened between Monday and Thursday and all that.

Can I say something to you? It's nothing with YouTube and having a young audience. I do think that summer vacation amplifies things. Like people have spare time, more spare time. And a lot of the audience, like even on Twitter, Twitter tends to skew a little bit older, but I think there's a lot of the younger people that just have a lot more time on their hands. And it's like when something comes out, there's a lot more feedback and a lot more people than you have a higher percentage of people who are getting upset by stuff when it comes out. I do think that's a thing in the summer, definitely.

And views reflect that and everything else too. I have a question. Hey, buddy, what's this podcast supposed to be in our? It was, I guess we ran a little bit long. But I don't know if we started late, we started late, but we'll see. Anyway, that does it for our two-person podcast. Thank you for joining us.

Thank you for Casper, Matress, for sponsoring our podcast. Brandon, thank you for putting up with Gavin and I being a little bit late so that we could play some player on known battlegrounds. And we'll see you all on Monday. Bye, everybody. Bye. I'm going to play the guitar. I'm going to play the guitar. I'm going to play the guitar. I'm going to play the guitar.

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