Rooster Teeth Podcast - Suicide Squad Goals - #388
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I'm Gus.
I'm Carrie.
I'm Barbara.
I'm Miles. And I'm Gus. And I'm Gus. No, I'm
gonna wait a minute. I'm confused now. That's Bernie, right? I'm Gus. Bernie and Gavin are out
of the country at the moment. So you guys are here to to pluck it up again. You're kind of
British and I'm kind of Bernie. Yeah. And I'm kind of honey. Yeah. Neat show in store tomorrow.
So I had something really weird happening to me the other day. Okay. You know, the Yeah, and I'm kind of honey You show it in store tomorrow
So I had something really weird happened to me the other day, okay, you know the kind of dream about killing Barbara
No, I'm just it's about just segueing away from whatever Barbara says that's does a great Oh, I was watching the Olympic opening ceremony, right and it lasts like did you see the six hours the oily guy?
I saw the oily guy. It's hard not to bone her town
All right, I got his cut
I think he was competing so I'm like I'm kind of watching I'm using my computer and I'm looking up every now and then
And at one point I look up and I see my neighbor
Apparently she's in the Olympics and she's competing? Wait, wait, wait, why?
She's competing?
It was like, oh, that's weird.
I thought she was in the audience or something.
What is she competing in?
I don't want to say.
Okay.
I can tell you, I just want to give people a personal information.
Do you go to a rowing next door and talk to her?
I've seen her in a couple of weeks and I've been...
Oh, she's made the fucking Olympics, guys.
I feel like you wouldn't see her at all if she was training for the Olympics in a couple of weeks. Oh, this is the right time for fucking Olympics guys. I feel like you wouldn't see her at all
if she was training for the Olympics in a couple of years.
She travels a lot.
Okay.
And she's got a lot.
Two events apparently.
Apparently she's been qualifying for a few years.
Is it a water sport?
Could you give us a clue?
It is not.
Okay.
Interesting.
We'll whittle this down.
Is it curling?
I don't know.
Yes, it's here.
There you go.
I mean, a special curling session here
in this summer Olympics.
It's winter in Rio right now.
You can move the sand out of the way.
Yeah.
God, that's weird, man.
Man, that fucking, that's weird.
Yeah, it's really weird.
I get excited when, I would, in college,
I would get excited when I saw like my band friend
like playing at the football game.
We were like, oh, this is cori, oh my God.
That's fucking not like the, are y'all like
particularly good friends?
Or is it more just like, oh, just random acquaintance? Yeah, it's random. It's still weird, man. Yeah, there's Cory. Oh my God. That's fucking not like the, are y'all like particularly good friends? Or is it more just like,
I'll just randomly acquaintance.
Yeah, it's random.
Like still weird, man.
Yeah, acquaintance.
This is gonna be a dumb question,
but I assume she's on the US team.
No, she is not.
That was the only way.
Oh my God.
It's like a twist.
She's not even on the US team.
What the fuck?
Yeah, she's competing for another country.
That fucking true.
That's why you don't want to tell us
because it's all, it's not a joke.
Yeah, that it's a joke.
I'm just, it's easier to find. I'm fucking a small. I guess like I don't even know
that's rule in the Olympics. You have to live in the country that you have to be a citizen and she's got
like do a business. Yeah. Okay. All right. So if you had to be in the Olympics, okay, they were
gonna force you to be in the Olympics and I was supposed to compete to try and win. You have to
you have to give it your all. Essentially, you compete my In some Olympic you're gonna compete in some Olympic sport
It's highly unless one of you guys is the fucking superhero in disguise you're gonna lose so essentially you're choosing
What sport are you gonna fail at on national television? What would you choose?
I feel like I would pick something where there's a lot of people competing like running or swimming
Because you don't really notice no reason in life. No, you notice the movie,
you notice the phrase behind.
Are you kidding me?
Any race, any race is like,
and they're off, except for one,
oh no, she's trying.
She's trying, just not.
No, we're tired, have breath.
If I was in a race,
I would, I would just hope that at least one person falls it out.
I mean, like, then maybe,
besides you, I might not be last.
Could you imagine if like,
so it's like hurdles, right?
And one of the competitors like breaks their leg.
And then you're the person that stops
and like carries them across.
No one will know.
You're a hero.
It's like you could have won, but you sacrifice.
You're career.
With all those race type things,
they follow the people on the lead.
So once you trail behind, you're not even on the camera.
Yeah, but there's still a stadium full of people
staring at you.
I don't care if they fall.
No, I'm there to come back to you on ESPN the next day.
They're gonna be like, there's fucking Canadian over here.
No business being here.
I'll be like, sorry, like the Ointur only makes her my specialty.
I think I would try and go out on a blaze of glory
because I know I'm not gonna win,
so I probably do pole vaulting.
I would try to be the first person to break a stick.
You know who would be awesome? Yeah. Is if you did like, if you chose like decathlon, I would try to be the first person to break a stick.
You know who would be awesome?
Is if you chose de-cathalon.
That way there's like,
Tim's fucking event.
It's not just the one thing.
It's like, all right, now I gotta run.
I didn't realize in this hypothetical situation,
I also hated myself.
I didn't.
Well, I saw shooting the other day.
Oh, I do that.
That could be something that you could get the hang of, maybe.
Isn't that a...
I'm totally talking about that.
Isn't that a winter one where you ski and shoot, I think is what?
Wait, what?
That's a bath-long.
Skying and shooting?
Is that some James Bond shoot?
Yeah, they did a version on top gear where he said he took an SUV.
I think I'd in the back of the SUV and start taking stuff.
What the fuck?
The, the Catalan.
I'm looking up the assuming ten the men's the
cathlon which apparently is just structured differently than the women's
the catholic it's all the same events just like
reordered. Yeah I'm sure committee spent a lot of time on that.
100 meter run this is all day one you do all of this in same day.
All right can you do that. 100 meter run. I mean, I could do it. Yeah.
And how long though? I mean, what's a good, a good time is like a meter
or nine seconds or something like 9.6 seconds. It's like the world record, right?
Yeah. So I could do it like in 20. That's faster than gravity.
You're just falling. You're in the right spot.
Long jump. Okay.
Shot put.
I don't even remember what that one is.
Is that the first thing?
Yeah, it's like you've got another cannonball.
No, yeah, that's discus.
Discus.
High jump.
And 400 meter.
I would love to see carried you a high jump.
Yeah.
Did you fucking invent one more?
I actually, so I did track.
I did tack one down, I did track.
I had problems doing the high jump in track
because when we, okay.
My tack one, no classes, they started out
as like self defense for kids,
because I'm gonna not do the boring version of this.
So we would have tournaments for kids.
So when we do this tournament, we would do high jump
and it would be just like straight
just like jump over the belt.
When you do high jump in track,
you actually jump backwards.
Over.
I couldn't get my body to do it.
Like my body would just like not do it. So I did hurdles instead. I couldn't get my body to do it like my body would just like not do it
So I did hurdles instead I have to face my enemy. Oh, you can choose between the two and I mean in middle school tracking
Do the fucking one?
You pick your ass like in the corner when I was in middle school
We actually did long jump and high jump and like yeah, these they didn't mean anything but these competitions that we used to do in gym class
I was always a winner of both high jump and long, because I was a five foot nine 12 year old.
Oh yeah.
And so I was just like fucking like,
spiderman and-
You're just like take one big step.
Like you wouldn't even jump.
Yeah, really much.
Because I figured out the girl was like five foot two.
It's kind of like going over like a five fence.
We just like, you barely,
I also stepped over them.
Yeah.
Peter Hay says, it's an easy question he would do sailing.
Ooh, which is interesting to do like-
That's neat.
One that you like, you're in a group and you can like. Ooh, which is interesting to do like. That's neat.
One that you like, you're in a group and you can like.
Yeah, you're just pretending to like,
foil rope for like 20 minutes.
You're like, you got the outfit.
You're set. You've got the outfit.
I do. I got those white pants.
And the salmon shirt.
And the salmon shirt.
Every day you walk in with that.
Everybody else will be in a uniform.
I'll be there with like boat shoes,
fucking sunglasses.
Yeah, and for sure, and ask us.
I was like, who wants some mimosas?
You could be the bartender for the same week.
Day two.
What?
Oh, okay.
How many vices in day one is that six?
Five, okay.
Are two days long?
Day two.
Do you have to like 110 meter hurdle,
discos row, pole vault, javelin throw,
1500 meter race.
So I did all this off in track.
I could not do that stuff anymore. No, fuck that. That's crazy. Do you like camp in a tent overnight? Just like show how metal you are?
Yeah, is it the amazing race? Where like how far you've come the day before like you get to leave
501 in the morning, you can tell you 502. How far do you think we are? Oh god, I hope this is not the
Gavin question. Oh, no, I don't think it's that bad. How far do you think we are? God, I hope this is not the Gavin question. No, I don't think it's that bad.
How far do you think we are from having something that's kind of like the Hunger Games?
But for real.
Very far. I don't think people would like to use the election go down.
Okay, maybe maybe not killing like people, but it's like
Paintballs or something like how far do you think we are from like where it becomes like a competitive survival?
It's like a purge but with wedges. Yeah exactly
Which actually the purge for
I feel like that's coming up. I feel like that's gonna happen soon. What why the Olympics are going away. I feel like they're gonna go away
The lead up to this has just been like why are we doing this?
The lead has been why are we doing this in Rio that's the lead of this
I've been hearing the argument that that we just finally just have them in Greece all the time.
That's just where we just build one thing.
We stop fucking wasting money on it.
Everybody just goes there.
Greece could certainly use that.
What did I just say?
But they can't afford it.
It's so expensive to host the Olympics.
Vancouver had a great Olympics.
Yeah.
Just gonna do it in Vancouver.
Yeah.
So, which far there's no top in that. There's no top in that. I'm just want to do a nickel back perform at the closing ceremony.
So which part was great?
There's no top in that.
There's no top in that.
I'm just kidding when that happens.
Did they do the Dicat one?
It's like, it's a group.
It's a group.
Gotta hate them.
That was probably one of the saddest moments of my life.
We're watching Nickelback.
Where I was watching the closing ceremony
at the Olympics and Nickelback performed.
No.
Because all Canadians were just like,
why?
What's the Canadian story?
Why is this band representing us?
Like, do you like, like, we do this?
What do you do?
Do you?
Salute, put your, I think, hand over the bar.
Like, when the, when the national anthem
is playing, what do you do?
Or the Pledge of Allegiance?
You do the show, right?
It's like a maple leaf.
You do not.
I'm just kidding, we don't do shit.
Okay.
You don't do that, there's no like,
I think it's just like the Hannah
that would take our hats off. Fucking copy cats. Oh man, I, we don't do shit. Okay, you don't do that, there's no like, I think it's just like the hand of the hero who take our hats off.
Fucking copy cats.
Oh man, we've been to that.
I realized throughout my entire like grade school career,
I said the Pledge of Allegiance wrong.
Like, what are you saying?
I always start off with I pledge of allegiance
to the F-
I don't know how many years you're in school.
I did that, because I just learned it long
as a kid or a gardener.
And then I just did that.
And just because I never paid it. I remember there were people that Yeah, and then I just did that and just cuz I never paid it
I remember there there were people that would be like I'm not gonna say this shit
You know that was one of them. Yes. Yeah, I went through like a year where that was me that I think it was junior year
It would be I didn't do it. Yeah, do you think you just blew someone's mind?
Well, I also thought it was I played
Hopefully there is five here for you. There's 2% of our audience watching right now. That's just like wait what I just like
I never paid attention to the words that I said ever.
I remember finally when I was a senior, I was like,
this is kind of a weird thing to make a bunch of kids say every day.
Yeah, it definitely got weird.
Like when you got to like the World War II Germany section
and the history book.
And it's like you have to like pause reading that to stand up
and be this.
I'm like, you got minute.
Do you think you could recite the Canadian national anthem?
I don't even know if I ever heard it.
Oh, is that a, is that a, is that a, I'm try to think if I even know the first word? Oh, that's it
That's a national anthem. Yeah, I think I shot a maple syrup my home in native land
native land
three vertails and
Grab a tube and those hats are flat
Grab a tube and those hats with flaps two hats with flaps
yep that's what I'm saying
Canada you are really cold
yep you have poutine
it's the Canadian dream
and go out to the source America doing now
I'm pretty sure that's how it goes
I can't wait to see the super cut of that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
Did you tear up a little bit?
I did.
I heart was slow.
I'll never get the first time I went to Canada.
With you and Marshall at Toronto FanExpo.
Yeah.
And I remember the biggest problem I had with Canada
was that I couldn't find a trash can,
only recycling cans everywhere.
And I was like, huh.
Yeah, all right, this place is better.
What do you do with your trash?
Ryan Brassfield on Twitter says that they should have had
Russia set a nickel back.
Oh, I get behind that.
Pretty much anyone's not a nickel jack.
I think it's the right answer.
I think we may have just found like the first sentence
in history that's always true.
Always like regardless.
No, that's not true.
We're going to kill a band.
Oh, okay. The nickel, like, makes sense, okay. Never true. We're going to kill a band. Oh, okay.
Exactly.
You make sense, okay, never mind.
You have a salute flag in Mexico.
Do you know miles?
How they saluted in Mexico?
Yeah.
Um,
Vernon, don't do anything racist over there.
I'm watching you.
I was going to say you tip your sombrero.
That's not that bad.
Come on.
I am.
Is it that? Is it? Is it?
That's just that?
What is the significance of that?
No idea.
Is it like cutting your heart in half?
Bleeding Mexico.
That's just the way it is.
I always seemed like when I was a kid, it didn't seem weird, but then as I got older,
I was like, that almost seems kind of fascist, right?
At least it's not.
It's like, I was waiting for the second part where you're like, you raised your arm up,
that's what I was expecting.
You're flying. Yeah. Someone who is a flying out. flying Joshua VDC on Twitter says I thought it was invisible under God
Yes, that's a good one. That's a good
I mean, I've no problem with they just seems like they're halfway done
Like I'm just waiting for the second part of it. It looks like they're, hmm.
It looks like they're like, but-
Wait, no, you can.
Like presenting their nipple.
I was gonna say it looks like they're trying to push
an invisible woman down to give them a blowjob.
But that's just making that bad.
Come on.
Ashley, Marc, you're-
I don't wanna offend invisible people.
Tweeded.
The Pledge of Allegiance is just a flag advertisement.
Yeah.
That's what you're saying.
It's a pretty solid, deep thought.
I don't know if I could recite it. The American Pledge of Allegiance? Yeah, I mean right. That's what you saw. It's a deep thought.
I don't know if I could recite it.
American Pledge of Legends.
Pledge of Legends.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
Give it a shot.
Give a shot.
I pledge allegiance to the flag.
You're already better than me.
To the flag.
Yep.
That's where you do it.
Under God.
You know what?
Why is it all right?
Is it all right?
No, she got it.
Indivisible.
That's true.
That other guy fucked up. But you got it. For all. Uh, indivisible. That's true that other guy fucked up but you got it.
For all.
So that was, I pledge allegiance to the flag under God, indivisible for all.
And this user, and then you do, and then you do the invisible war.
There you go.
We nailed it.
Welcome to America.
Sweet.
Let it happen.
You're a citizen now.
Yeah.
They're going to use this against you. I can't wait.
Maybe in like the council.
And they'll all decide.
I had to go to this,
for all this government office,
this federal government office last week.
I'm sorry.
And like you walk in and I walked into this office
and I was using my phone.
I was looking something up.
So I walk in and I'm like on my phone.
And as soon as I walk in,
there's like a dude buying a counter,
he goes, hey, can't have your phone in here. Go straight back to your car, take your phone in here go back to your car take it to your car. I was like take it to your car
I was like, uh okay, so I just walked out put in my pocket walk back in of course
Yeah, and there's like like a good American
Shinnah, the signs everywhere that are like no cell phones you'll be asked to leave
This was it's like the government office. I didn't okay, but and then so it's like you're sitting there right and nobody can have their phone out
there's no magazines and
they have a TV with a DVD player hooked up to it.
And they're playing what?
I'm hoping you're gonna say Shrek.
They're playing Superman Returns.
Shrek the third.
My answer's way better.
Which ends while I'm sitting there.
And they take it out.
And then they put Batman versus Superman in.
Like, what the fuck is-
It's a theme.
It's good.
They probably have like days at their office like all right guys
We're doing super here today this week to lead up to suicide squad. Let's get excited. I think we are at the same place
Recently I have to go somewhere to get something done for my green card application. We probably were at the same place
Wow, and like there were signs everywhere like no phones no phones. Did you did you put your phone in the car?
I love my phone in my car. Wow Prattie. I'm an American an American they can't tell me where to use my phone or not to use my phone. Yeah
Such a Canadian that's a weird I wanted to obey all the laws of America. That's good
Yeah, you're gonna leave they can't kick me out you're in a slightly different a different place
Speaking of suicide squad who you saw it absolutely not Let me read something before I get to suicide squad.
Okay, we won't do that.
This is how I raise my hand.
As I say that I saw suicide squad.
How are you?
Are you the joker?
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Empire, the Timothy, Zon, Star Wars book. Probably, I hadn't read that book since it came out.
Probably, what was that? Like, 94? It's really good. It's interesting now, re-listening
to it. Now that we've had bad Star Wars and good Star Wars,
it's like, oh, wow, like this is really a trip
to listen to and think about.
And then it made me start thinking,
we're gonna get this gonna segue perfect.
So it made me start thinking about,
this morning I was thinking about Star Wars
and I was thinking about air to the Empire.
And it really made me think about the amount of pressure
that the people making the force awake
It's must have been on oh my god. I can't even imagine it's like it's a it's a it's a franchise people love that
People love to shit on yeah, and it's like this is gonna be the movie that's going to ideally
Restart more movies in this universe like if you fuck it up then no one's gonna be excited about Rogue One
No one's gonna be excited about episode eight. It's gonna have like extremely low expectations no matter what you do. They're gonna
go in like already hating it. I don't know, man.
No, I would disagree with that. I feel like, I went in wanting to love it and I did, but
like, it's like you're saying like the last like decade before that, everybody just been
hating on it. Yeah. Like the expectation was that it was gonna be shit because it was
started. And this movie had to turn it around. Yeah.
Turned, everyone's.
Oh, is that your expectation? Is it going. Yeah, turn everyone's. Oh, I thought you were in the store.
You were in the store?
I wasn't sure.
Of course, we can.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I probably the same, but you've been burned
by three movies.
Yeah, exactly.
I've been doing the same thing.
It's like, I was excited for those when I saw the trailer.
And then, I mean, I went in just like two hours.
I just like, I wanted to be good.
Let's hope it's good.
And I watched it.
I remember trying, I was like that for a while
And I think it was until like the second or third trailer came out and then that was I think it was the second trailer came out
I was just like can't contain it. All right. No, I'm excited. God damn it. I didn't want to be excited
But I'm excited. I mean, I feel like and and
Cargamy from wrong guys because you probably have a slightly better memory than this, but like I'm just older
You just say that was the nicer thing thing I feel like everybody was really excited for
Phantom Menace when the trailers came out that's what I'm saying yeah I mean like I
just didn't want to use the trailer does he
menry about it yeah there is it's just like
everybody's like super excited and it's just like oh well this is a lot and then
people like I remember saw it again thinking like maybe I was just I did a
Spider-Man 3 oh god I'm kind of what I think about suicide squad I was like is there something I'm missing what god. I was like, I was like, I'm not seeing suicide squad yet,
but I don't care for spoiler.
I mean, I think I'm still trying to avoid spoilers.
We're not gonna spoil it.
We're not gonna spoil it.
I have spoiled itself.
But I was actually excited,
but I know a lot of people are shitting on it
with the trailers and everything.
It seems like an interesting premise to me. Again, I'm not like a comics person.
I started actually reading the Suicide Squad comics to try to, just because it seems like an interesting idea to me.
But I don't know, the trailers made me interested and made me excited and I wanted to see it.
Yeah, they didn't turn me off.
Until I realized that it has such a terrible rot in tomato score, currently at 26%.
Yeah, yeah. See, that to me is too high.
So, wow, really?
Yeah.
So, suicide squad, I felt like was in the exact same position,
not the, well, not the exact same,
but a similar position that the force awakens was in
in that DC live action, especially after Batman V-Soups,
which I still haven't seen.
V-Soups.
It was like, it was like, we gotta, I mean, that was the point, wasn't it?
Batman v Superman, there's a reason
that we went with the, there's a fucking trial and shit.
Anyways, anyways, anyways.
Suicide Squad was like, at least for me,
and it seems like to a lot of people,
the make a break moment.
It looked like, after BVSoups, BVSoups.
Yeah.
He's getting shorter and shorter.
The whole time time is precious.
BVS.
BVS, after that, the DC needed to show, it's like, hey look,
we're listening to our fans look suicide squad,
it's way more like hearted, we're not gonna be
as serious and down on it, like every trailer cut
was like, oh, ballroom blitz and queen and all the shit.
And I'm like, okay, so I love villains, yeah.
But I'm still, I don't trust you yet.
Well here's the problem with the, I feel like
that's what Batman for Superman was supposed to be
That was supposed to be no no that was supposed to be the movie that made her break everything because by the time
When did that mean for superman come up like February? Yeah, it's not been long enough
The problem is that they reacted to notes
I feel like from Batman for Superman and try to force a move I haven't seen it and try to force a movie that wasn't supposed to
It it definitely looked like something weird happened in that editorial room.
That's why the way I described it was like about that.
Yeah, well, dude, I mean, ah, god.
And of course, you know, everybody's entitled to their own opinion.
Like, I've heard plenty of people say that they enjoy the movie.
Also, production's hard as shit.
Production's hard as shit.
Like, that's the thing.
That's the one thing that I've learned working here.
Yeah.
Is that like, you think you know how things work.
You don't.
You don't know how things work.
We'll never know what happened in the production
of Suicide Squad that led to that.
But I doubt everybody that worked on that movie
looked at the final cut and went,
that's gonna be fucking awesome.
There's no way, the way I describe it is
they took the bunch of pieces to a movie
in like a puzzle form, put it in a box,
grab the box and went,
and then where everything kind of landed
is where they just went.
And then half the puzzle fell out.
And then half the puzzle fell out.
It was a two hour movie that felt like a three hour movie to me
and three
three
three fours the way through a movie is not the time to start going into a
character's backstory
that's not the appropriate time to do it
I don't know if you felt the same way as I did about this
but I watched that movie and it feels like it started
after like an hour the movie should have passed
I don't fucking know
I was just like you're like,
What?
So who, wait.
I went into it cautiously optimistic.
I was like, I don't know if it's gonna be good,
but so far hasn't shown me a reason
that it could be fine.
Me too, I actually expected to like it.
The first 30 minutes are pretty solid.
Like the first, the opening that movie's pretty cool.
Like they're getting some backstory about
dead shots and backstory about Harley.
And then they kinda went and then and then they kind of went,
and then there's other guys.
My biggest problem with the movie, well,
what I thought was gonna be my biggest problem
with the movie was that after the intro,
they start kind of having to rapidly go through stuff,
and it's really confusing like, wait, okay,
so this is the antagonistic force.
All right, now what is their mission again?
Okay, all right, and I guess these guys are coming along. There's literally literally like they're getting on the helicopter to go to the mission after everybody's been introduced
Yeah, sort of and like they you mean the title of screens with eight lines of text
Yeah, they did the board of land but I put like point two seconds
But then and then they're all getting on the helicopter. It's taking off and then oh, hey, this is Katana. She's coming with us to
Dun-da-dun-da- dun, now they're going into the city.
That's literally her introduction.
It's like, here's Katana, she's coming with us too.
Jump to a flashback where she's like, my husband.
And then you come back and she's like,
yeah, she's not bad, but she's my friend.
So, what, let's do it.
Yeah, I remember the one.
She's not a member of the suicide club.
She's just having a friend.
She's just having a friend.
Oh, dude.
So, about halfway through that movie,
I'm sitting in the theater, I'm going,
okay, I see why people the theater, I'm going, okay.
I see why people are ragging on suicide squad.
I think I understand it.
Here's a movie that has taken
a whole lot of really interesting quirky characters
and a crazy escape from New York-ass premise
and they managed to make it boring.
Like, the action is boring personally.
Like, there's no, there's, there's
babies, boy, there's three helicopter crashes in that movie. None of them really hold any
significance. Nobody dies in helicopter crashes except for the pilot.
I honestly only remember one of those. Um, and, and there's, there's a moment where
they're infiltrating a building. And then again, this is, this is no, this is no relevance
on the plot. I feel like you can't spoil this movie.
You can.
They're going in, they're like, all right, there's bad guys in here.
We got to move tactically.
Ding!
What's that sound?
Whoa!
Harley Quinn's just taking the elevator because she's crazy!
Get down here girl!
Cut to the elevator.
There's like a three, four minute scene where Harley, for whatever reason, she's doing
her makeup in the elevator and somehow some bad guys enter through the top inside of
the elevator.
She kills them, they get to the top and they're all like, oh, what's wrong?
She's like, what are you looking at and walks out and then the scene just carries on as
if that never fucking happened.
Like, there was a bunch of rumors that, you know, they went back and they did some reshoots
after seeing reactions to the trailer.
That seems like one of those things where they were like, well, we need to make this more
fun because the whole thing is done to like some, you know, nostalgia classic rock song.
I think it wasn't that ballroom blitz no no no I will say people I think made a
big deal out of the fact that you know there was those reports about reshoots
for suicide squad that's not out of the ordinary no it's not super normal reshoots
all the time yeah I think this is the first we've ever seen though it was
pretty apparent okay wasn't there a rumor that it was just completely
reacted by another person I heard it was the trailer house. One guy edited it and that exists somewhere
in the ether somewhere.
But so they have all these cool characters,
hardly any of them interact with each other ever.
They all each individually, that's not even true.
Killer Croc, like never talks to anybody.
I think he has.
Halfway through the movie who is like,
in case she'll didn't know, I'm a black guy, BET,
and you're like, okay, cool.
Really? Dude, yeah. He's like, BET. And he's like, okay, cool. Really?
Dude, yeah.
He's like, showty, I'm beautiful.
Like suddenly he just starts talking in like
super stereotypical black dude.
Can you understand anything he was saying?
Yeah, sometimes.
Sometimes.
There was a lot of characters in that movie where they
said something and I was like, I legitimately
have no idea what you just said.
But the first time I watched Dark Knight,
that was with the last one, with Bane.
It was worse.
So they spend a whole lot of time on action that has no real consequence.
It's not particularly cool.
Like there's a few cool moments, Deadshot,
Deadshot fucking shit up on top of a car was cool.
Harley for like literally the entire movie, the gag is,
oh I have a bat and I'm not really useful here.
Which begs the question, why the fuck do you send in like all these dudes?
The whole objective for them too is really unclear.
Like they're going in,
they're not going in to stop the evil,
they're just going in to find somebody.
But also like none of them are really,
there's one metahuman out of them.
Special, like you know, it's like she has a bat,
he's good with a gun, it's like why could these people
all of a sudden stop this thing?
My buddy Doyle and I had a long conversation
about who deserved to be there.
Katana, El Diablo and Deadshot were the,
I guess Killer Croc were like the the, I guess killer crock,
were like the three that I guess made sense,
but then Captain Boomerang had no business being there,
fucking Harley Quinn had, what was,
what's she so good at?
Bein' crazy and Joker's best friend, send her in.
Like, yeah.
It was just like, what are we doing here, man?
And what was interesting for me was like,
Miles, they needed a female character, so.
Look, she was great to look at
and actually did a really good Harley Quinn, but in that situation
was useless.
Yeah, I just thought it was so wasted
because the actors they had playing
in the characters were great.
She was a great actor.
We'll say that.
But the lines they were given were so bad.
That's the other thing.
So cheesy and just like they didn't,
like they couldn't perform with that.
So, so I'm thinking I know why the movie's bad.
And then about three-fourths of the way through the movie,
there's a helicopter crash that involves a particular binder.
And that's when I went, I looked to my friend,
I was like, are they really doing this?
It's like the school level,
like this is something you would see in a high school film,
which close your ears for 15 seconds,
if you don't wanna avoid spoilers.
Will Smith finds a binder literally labeled top secret, opens it, closes it after five seconds and then goes up to happen
flag is like, yo, when were you going to tell us about this? Because yeah, by the way,
when they're going into the city, midway city, and you see like the giant thing in the sky
of like, yo, so what are we fighting here? Terrorists, you know, dirty bombs, people with guns, that kind of thing.
Realty. And it's, here's the moral that film I understand.
Also the picture I'm bringing up under that fell out,
perfectly into the water of him and the other.
Here is, this is the message of suicide squad.
Go ahead.
All right.
Yeah.
Ready?
We're bad guys.
Own that shit.
Unless, of course, you don't want to.
In which case, be the good guys, but not too good.
Because remember, you're bad, I think.
That is the fucking message of that movie.
The worst thing they do is some kind of suicide squares.
The worst thing they do.
I thought that'd be the worst line in the movie.
All movie?
The worst, like, the thing that makes them bad guys,
all movie, the worst thing they do is steal a person out of the store.
Yeah, it's like, we had to do this to remind them that,
oh, hey, remember bad.
Yeah, look, I'm stealing.
There's a moment where, so then, so it really gets fucked up in like the last third of the store. Yeah, it's like we had to do this to remind them, oh hey, remember bad. Yeah, look, I'm stealing. There's a moment where, so then,
so it really gets fucked up in like the last third of the movie
where they're like, suddenly there's character moments,
like, oh, this character is grown,
and then they don't, and it's like, oh, this person betrayed us.
I have an opportunity to kill them, but I won't,
even though they just betrayed us, because I'm good,
but I'm not, I don't know.
Harley Quinn gives a fucking awful motivational speech.
It's like you said, the lines get worse and worse and worse. By the final fight, Will Smith literally goes,
you're evil lady. And it's like that was his big moment.
I guess for the scene. Also, could we talk about what's your name? Cara DeLavine?
The woman who plays the witch. She's like a superman. Oh, a chantress. Yeah. What about she is a supermodel? Beautiful woman?
Should not maybe beantress. Yeah, what about she is a supermodel beautiful woman should not maybe be an actress
It was a lot of this
Love what's wrong and that's the thing too so like in chantress has like she speaks in very like old like
Way of speaking and then you know she speaks in like ancient mannerism Whatever blah blah blah and then in the last thing she's like you don't have the balls
like ancient mannerism whatever blah blah blah and then in the last thing she's like you don't have the balls
Yeah, she said you don't have the balls excuse me, but it's in her like epic like in Chantras voice. It's fucking weird
You explain this movie to me is bothering me a little bit
Like I like I think like that's how that's how upset you said I am. About all of this. Like, doesn't matter. No. Doesn't matter.
That movie made $133 million over the weekend in the US.
$133 million for and it's gonna end up cash positive.
I want everybody to see it.
No.
Because I want to be able to talk about this.
I want you guys to share in the like,
no, no, no, no.
That's how they know.
Don't do that.
Don't listen to that.
I wanted to share in the pain.
I was not going to go to this movie until reviews came out in a few my friends saw it
But the friend of mine that I hadn't seen in a while was like let's go see it together
I was like okay, but I try like if I'm on the fence about something and if I have no reason to trust the studio
I will not pay to go see it because that's what it is at the end
You can complain and bitch and start as many petitions as you want
But if you pay for something like money is the ultimate way of showing confidence
Didn't the last transformers movie get like a 20 something around tomatoes,
but still make like a billion dollars.
Oh, boy.
It's like the EG 13.
Yeah, that's the other thing is, it's a PG 13 movie.
Yeah, Trans.
What was the last one, even though Trans, or?
Trans.
Rise of the side of the box.
I don't know.
What?
Let's try something with the robot dinosaur.
Showered both side anymore, is he?
Heal. Age of know, age of extinction.
Age of extinction.
Yeah, Marky Mark was in it.
I'm happy that I haven't seen it.
18% of our tomatoes.
How much did it make?
How much did it make?
Look at it up.
So here, but as a fan of Batman and the Joker being one of my favorite villains, my biggest
problem I had with the movie is that the Joker's in love with Harley Quinn.
1.1 billion dollars.
Not how that works.
I think I wait real quick.
Did you hear that?
What?
Transformers age of extinction, 18% rot tomatoes,
worldwide $1.1 billion.
$1.1 billion?
Yeah.
So that's why people should not go see this movie.
Yeah, don't, don't, don't.
I have an idea.
Unless, you know what, I mean, that's just my opinion.
Like I said, there's people out there
that enjoyed the movie.
And I, the first 30 minutes were super entertaining and I was
into it. So just leave after that. It was really funny. We actually went to go see
the movie with our entire marketing team because it was like our team building day.
So I didn't have to pay for the movie. Rich Sheet actually paid for it. So thanks
Rich Sheet. At the end of it, like all of us kind of looked at each other and we're just like
all right and then I turned to Eric and he goes, wasn't that bad bud? Oh, he's gonna be mad that you said that, so sorry.
Here's the thing though, great marketing
because they all made a skill.
That would not be too bad.
Dude, the people that ended those trailers
are the real heroes.
We love from them.
Those were some fucking cool trailers.
But no, my, the geek inside of me was just upset
that like both Harley and Joker
have an equal amount of love and infatuation
for one another. and that's like
I've never seen that relationship portray that way in like any of the books the cartoons the game was not supposed to be
It's not supposed to be like Harley's infatuated with the Joker and he treats her like shit and is super abusive but she's crazy
I wish I was more story about that. They did a good job explaining Harley because like in the cartoons
She's just like I love you now. Miss the J. Oh, let's go pudding, but in this one's like she fell for him
Spoiler if you care, she fell for him,
he busted out of the asylum and then strapped her down
and fucking electrocuted her brain and made her nuts.
And I was like, oh, that's fucking metal as shit.
But like, let her, it wasn't that,
like vocally, it honestly reminded me a lot of Heath Ledgers.
It was very gravely and down here.
Visibly, obviously, he kinda looked more like
the names of my posse members. A little bit. He just didn't stand out.
No, he didn't stand out. He just didn't stand out as any other kind of gang leader.
He just kind of seemed like a gang leader that happened to laugh and then
he wasn't terrible. He wasn't terrible, but he didn't do anything particularly
jokery. Like there were no, he wasn't funny. Like most jokers, like a good joker,
like Mark Hamill's Joker, you still can't help but like him. Yeah.
Even Heath Ledger's Joker, who's super-drange, has the scene where he's walking out and nurses outfit and then there's the club with me.
And it's funny, you laugh at him, the burning fire truck is kind of funny.
And, and let those jokers, he's scary, and the joker's supposed to be scary, but that's it.
Do you think that will be further explored in the standalone Batman movie, and that they didn't have time to do that this time,
because it was such an ensemble
It's possible and that's the other thing
It's like when the fuck are people gonna learn that you can't cram a million characters into a movie unless you've had proper time to catch up right now
We're just marveled at that great
They said they've had years to set this stuff up DC's trying to start running without putting their fucking tennis shoes on
I mean even then Guardians interviews five characters in one movie. They still did a fucking better job. But they had already set like part of the universe and
kind of gotten you used to the story. I saw the Avengers before I'd seen any of the Marvel
movies. Other than Iron Man. And I still love that movie. And I totally understood every
single character and where they came from. They did it awesome. Yeah. I think even in the
first Avengers, they still do like flashbacks
with a Captain America to set up like
what happened to him?
Just frozen and like, you know,
and just like the way they were
together seemed to make sense and
let it had a purpose. Whereas in
this, it's just like,
Arbitrary at arbitrary moments in the
movie is when you decide when they
decide to do a flashback to what
the characters all about.
The midway point, the midway
point in the movie is when they finally show
like Harley Quinn's, like, how she got,
how much she loves the Joker.
I don't know, man, it's, I was sad.
I wanted to like it.
I never want something to be bad.
You want people to make good stuff.
I actually thought I would enjoy it
because I am very not picky when it comes to movies,
especially movies like this, superhero movies,
action movies and stuff like that. As long as I'm entertained, I usually enjoy it because I am very not picky when it comes to movies especially movies like this super hero movies action movies and stuff like that as long
As long as I'm entertained I usually enjoy are you not entertained? I was not entertained
I was looking at my watch a few times. I was like I was like fuck how much longer is this movie?
Oh, that's always a really bad. Oh, yeah, when you look at your watch. Yeah, yeah during a movie like try to figure out where you are
Did you I thought it was a three hour long movie. I felt like it. How long was it?
It's two hours.
Can you get your money's worth?
It feels longer.
It feels longer, yeah.
Oh, I see.
Yeah, that's how that works.
I had a ton of fun making fun of it afterwards.
So yeah, we, I saw with a few friends that we went back to his apartment and just continued
to drink and shit all over the movie.
I never seen Batman versus Superman, but my buddy Mitch came over and he's like, oh, we
have to watch these two scenes. And watching it, I was like, this seems like cinematic mastery
compared to what I just watched. Man, it was honestly, I'm gonna say it. Batman vs Superman
was maybe better than this. Oh, wow. And I've heard nothing but bad stuff about it.
I don't know that I'm gonna watch any DC movies. I never saw, not the original Superman,
but the one they did a couple years ago. Man man of steel. I was like that. I have not seen most I've ever cared about Superman
Yeah, I've never seen
The most recent one was that no superman return. Okay, you man is still was the
Superman returns and then they're like let's not do that anymore and then man of steel
Okay, that's what they were showing at the office. I would do the show in man of steel. Okay, okay, then
Beavie soups the baby soups. Yeah, I, I just don't have an interest in any of those movies.
Man, so far, Mano Steel is the best one
that they've been able to get.
Marvel hit it for me.
And the previous Batman movies hit it for me too.
But I just like, I liked, I liked fucking Batman
forever more than suicide school.
Batman forever.
Is that the George Clooney Arnold Schwarzenegger one?
I believe, or no, that's Batman and Robin, I think.
I think Batman and Robin is a-
Did he have nipples? They were called nipples. They were called bad nipples think I think baton and robin is nipples They were couples there were
Not nipples. Yeah, go cloney definitely is nipples
No question there with short maker. I saw that yeah, baton around with umat there man
It's like they're they're like doing a call back to like the 60s show, weren't they?
I saw that in the theater when it came out who I remember being really annoyed because you know
The honor of Schwarzenegger plays mr. Freeze. Yeah Yeah, like there are many scenes where you see the icicles you're like
yeah, flopping because they're obviously like plastic or rubber it's like come on
that's so distracting.
Look at that.
Look at that.
The opportunity banana peel slips in that show.
Yeah, yeah.
Robin fights rave racers.
That was cool.
Remember that part?
I do not remember.
I don't remember much about that movie.
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Jerks. Um, so speaking of movies, I did go to the theater. I did see a movie this
weekend. Very rare for me to to go out and see him. And I enjoyed it.
And I enjoyed it. I saw it. I saw it don't think twice. I keep
hearing nothing but good stuff about that movie. It was really really good. I thought three movies
this weekend. Yeah, well, Aaron's in Europe or two. So I got a bad mom's which was just yeah.
Yeah. I've heard nothing about the movie talking about, guess what? Don't think twice. It's essentially a movie about a group of improv comics who live together, you know, do improv,
and a show like SNL comes along and then is scouting them.
And so it's like, how do they deal with some members of the group potentially achieving success?
And then others not.
That sounds really awesome.
It's very much a dromity. Yeah, I mean, it's like
It's got some well some comedic actors in it, but it's like it's really like
Heavy on the drums. Yeah, it's like real life kind of situations
Yeah, that's really cool absolutely realistic and everyone and it's really great. Yeah casting
I think I had no problem with any of the any of the characters
Me neither there's some some definitely some uncomfortable moments
and some dark comedy.
But yeah.
I was sitting next to Bethany
and there were so many moments
when she was going, oh no.
Oh no.
Oh no.
Yeah, it's the same thing in suicide's one.
But there's also moments like where you're like,
oh no, and then you're laughing at the same time.
That's so awful.
Yeah, I'm sure you watch this movie now.
It's pretty good though. I think you would enjoy it. same time. Like that's so awful. Oh, shit. I knew I was just moving now.
It's pretty good, though.
I think you would enjoy it.
I too also don't go to the movie theater very often.
I mean, either I haven't seen a movie in months
and then I saw three in a week.
The last movie I saw was Swiss Army Man before this.
And I was like, I'm super interested in that,
but I don't go to the movies.
Let me circle back to Swiss Army Man in just a minute.
Okay.
So, oh boy.
After Swiss Army Man, I did a tweet that was like, my one emoji review to Swiss Army Man in just a minute. Okay. So, oh boy. After Swiss Army Man, I did a tweet that was like,
my one emoji review of Swiss Army Man.
Then I like-
Was it the shruggy?
It was the, hmm.
I thought it's good in the last 20 minutes.
I like, what?
I'm gonna get to that.
So then after watching, don't think twice,
I did a two emoji review
Yeah, and it was like the laughing face and then like the awkward like
And Mike Barbiglia who wrote and directed the movie does in it. He liked it what and then he started following me on Twitter
I won't because I'm a T won't notice but
It's really good I won't because I would he won't notice
Really good. Yeah, like I said micro biglia wrote directives. So if you're familiar with this Oh, no, like that's all if you just said that to be a big league. Yeah, yeah
Improvis like one of the main characters. He's one of my
I'm miles
I'm Mike for bigly I might look at me. I'm Mike Bribiglia. I'm Mike Bribiglia.
I'm the Mike Bribiglia.
Okay, so anyway, don't think twice.
Great movie. Go see it.
Switch army man.
Yeah, do you think twice about?
Please continue.
Switch army man.
I'm glad I watched it.
I don't know that I would ever watch it again.
That's fine. Let's do bad cause let's put it on now.
There's a moment in that movie where one character is like,
it's like a really close up shot on that character's face
and that character just looks at camera and goes,
what the fuck?
That sums up the movie.
All right.
It's like, I, I, I,
I feel like you could get that from watching the trailer though.
Eee, I don't know.
I, I, there's a lot of ambiguity in the movie.
Like, as to what's real and what's real, what's real,
what's imagined, what's insanity and like,
yeah, is there a combination of the three?
Like, you don't know.
And maybe that's kind of the thing.
You've got a guy who's stranded on a Disneyland, right?
Yes, and maybe that's kind of the thing.
I think Harry Potter.
You're in that character's head as well,
and you can't make those distinctions.
Right.
But yeah, it's a...
The first time I watched a trailer,
I was upset that that movie got made.
What?
Well, I just, like, it's so fucking ridiculous.
I'm not upset.
I've just like, I was actually really happy
when I saw the trailer,
because I was like, that's one of the strangest things
I've seen in a very long time.
It's not a reboot of something, it's not a franchise.
It's just like, we're gonna do something fucking weird
that probably not everyone's gonna like.
Come see it if you want, shit's wild.
I guess the fuck and I was like, cool, good on you guys.
My first impression was they probably,
I wonder if they just made this weird to be weird.
That's not feel about being a bad, I'll say it.
I do not think that is the case with society man.
I will give it that.
I do not think it's weird for the sake of being weird.
So sorry, remember by the way, I'm around tomato 65%.
Don't think twice, 99%.
Wow.
It was 100% my wife.
I mean, I enjoyed it.
It's not like the greatest film I've ever seen.
It's interesting because I think it's set out.
It's what it does.
It's not a movie that I think would ever have wide appeal. Sure I'm first of all amazed that the movie got made. I think it must have
been a passion project not only for like Mike were bigly in the actors but probably for
the people who financed that movie because I don't like I don't see finance and movie
like yes I'm going to make all my money back. No, they just like I want to I have money
and I want to see this movie made right like I want to watch this story that should be told That's good. So I think there's a lot of passion behind that
So sorry man
It's god dang it Redcliffe
You think you just made for that pocket with a Harry Potter money
I heard Daniel Radcliffe was so excited about his character that like they had a body double for like
Yeah, and he farts and shit. He's like now. I wanna do that, let me do that. Let me do that.
This is a weird thing to say.
Oh boy, here we go.
Okay.
Maybe they should have used the body double.
Not that Danny Redcliffe was bad.
It's just that, like going back to the whole thing,
I said about the movie, like not knowing
if what's real, what's insanity, what's imagined.
Like maybe like a fake mannequin would have made sense
Sometimes in an actual person. No, no
It's a fart mannequin. Okay. Is it fart? Yes, that's oh my god
I kind of oh man, that's gonna go on auction somewhere like that's gotta get
Kept it. Oh man. Let's try and buy it for them. Yeah, right. You know it'll be our our new guzzet. Fifth seat. We'll be like, we'll be like, dude, soup.
Well, except it'll be Daniel Radcliffe's dead corpse.
Yeah, dead corpse.
Still kind of a sexual.
What does dude, soup do?
They have an inflatable, sexual, sexual, sexual, sexual, surrogate.
There you go.
I see.
Yeah, vaginal surrogate.
Seeing a, don't think twice though, maybe kind of want to try and
prove some day. I don't know why though, maybe kind of want to try improv someday.
I don't know why.
I feel like it should do the opposite.
Did, none of you work here when we did it?
I did, of course.
I was an intern.
You all watched us.
You all watched us.
Everybody went into the studio to go do the improv classes
and I sorted files and heard the laughter on the other side.
By everybody, you made all 12 of us.
Yes, yes.
It was a simpler time.
I'm guessing you did not enjoy that.
I loved it.
Really? Yeah. It was really interesting. I think it was really, I think it was a simple time. I'm guessing you did not enjoy that. I loved it really. Yeah, it was really interesting
I think it was really I think it was honestly really helpful. It was yeah
Like you think about improv and it seems like something that's very
Intimidating right like not knowing and having to be in the moment and I think after having gone through the classes like you like
And it's like don't think twice starts with like three tenants of improv which I we've all heard yeah like to say yes and
I forgot the second one they say is and then it's don't think about it.
Yeah, don't think about it.
You'll be fine.
Yeah, and I think like think about it.
Something like get out of your own head or something.
Yeah, like if you practice enough and you you realize like do the yes and don't focus
on the things you don't know, focus on the things you know.
Like there's like a lot of things that we practice doing that were really helpful.
And I think that I still think about.
To the say it's been forever.
It's been a long time.
So we did that five years ago.
Jesus Christ.
Maybe longer.
I mean, I started five years ago and it was before me.
Yeah.
I really enjoyed it.
It was scary because I'd not been there for very long.
Yeah.
So having to do improv in front of these guys after being a
fan for so long was really not that we had done
Improving not that we're in good at it still
But no you guys are still fucking hilarious though
It was a really being a podcast for the first time for long time
I was scared to be on this podcast. I was like there's Gavin and Bernie and Gus and these are like some of the funniest people
I've ever met you have not met some funny people
I know funhouse guys
Who do they know?
Was there anybody?
Game Grumps.
Was there anybody who did improv that day who like really didn't fucking want to do it?
Then you won't be outing or any.
No we did like multiple days.
I think maybe like it was several weeks worse.
It was.
I think maybe like the first day people were just like, oh I've got to stop working.
But I mean like every seem to be pretty into it. Yeah, yeah, so so speaking of knowing funny people
Our editorial department animation is filled with some of the funniest people that I have ever met
So my funniest nights here have been us trying to like finish the episode
Before it comes out so we're here like late the day before
And just like because it's essentially it's like all right this one shot fucked up. Get the shot in and, okay, 30 minute render.
So then we just sit around and like, fucking dig around.
Yeah.
There the, oh my fucking god, they're so fun.
So it's Connor, Richard Stan Cole.
Richard Nixon.
Yeah, his name's not Richard Nixon.
It is absolutely.
Day one, we started calling Richard Nixon though.
And he was like, I guess I'm Richard Nixon now.
He starts calling him a mill house.
So Ethan, who also helps out on Machinima,
has these characters that he likes to come up with
that are very oddly specific and yet you feel like
you've met them before.
The best one I personally think is the guy
that says he doesn't want to be tickled
but like really wants to be tickled.
That's a very,
I know you're right.
So specific. But I feel like you don't met someone like that. But like, I to be tickled. That's a very strong, especially now that you're around.
But I feel like she's not met someone like that.
But like, really though.
Around it?
But oh no, because I essentially like to do start laughing.
Yeah, but like, don't tickle me though.
Like that would be crazy.
Like, carry.
Don't.
Okay, I'm serious.
But there's another character
that he always just heard the word but
So what does that mean so you know like like but so like yeah, but what do you talk? What are you talking about? Okay?
What do you mean what am I talking about
I don't know. I was trying to set you up Oh Oh, that's a guy that goes, essentially, if anybody's ever conversation,
it's a guy that thinks the word butt is hilarious,
like a five year old, so he'll be like,
Terry, did you just say butt?
Oh my god.
Like, who's just like completely freaked out by it?
Like, I don't know.
We have spent way too many like nights with him,
and then the past four days, we were on a writer's retreat to try and
fucking catch up with these clips and I think Stacy wants to kill us now. I'm pretty sure she absolutely does.
Oh, we're in his apartment. Yeah, for us. Yeah, for some of it. Yeah, for half of it, we were in his apartment.
Yeah, we'd be like, Stacy!
What?
Whatever you do! Don't tickle me!
And she would say that and then the other person would go wait wait, man. Did you just say bye?
Oh my god, I think she said but she's like I'm leaving. Yeah
I was gonna say speaking of gone I guess what happened for the second time in four months to me. Oh, no
My bike got stolen. Oh, again.
Was it stolen from here or from my apartment?
So no, I would, the apartment complex totally fucking nice.
Apparently, no.
Apparently, yeah.
Well, filled with bike thieves.
Yeah, yeah, it's a nice community for bike thieves.
I think it's miles.
I think it might be.
You're looking, your legs are looking really nice lately.
They're actually nice. You look sweet. So, I keep fluctuating.
I've lost and gained 10 pounds like back and forth for like months now.
Well, thank you.
You've been bike.
All right.
So, I'm going to get back to his bike for a second.
That's right.
Yes.
Did you, like, where is it still over?
Are you locking your bike?
Do you own a lock?
So, so here's the thing.
It's funny how many people ask me on Twitter.
I say, oh, my bike was long ago. Did you lock it?
So angry for you
I was really locked up under the stairs to my apartment and it was it was attached with a bike lock under the stair
Okay, okay, I see it was attached to a bike lock to a railing that goes under the stairs
Okay, it was just a cable lock so it wasn't very good somebody like four months, at like 11 o'clock at night, cut it and ran off with it.
Didn't hear it, didn't know anything.
Just walk up the next day.
I don't know, around a little bit.
I don't know.
My dog started barking, so I'm pretty sure that's what it was,
but I didn't know for sure.
Yeah, Charlie's an asshole.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's see, he's fucking, he's fucking.
He's fucking.
Charlie.
So then two nights ago,
you said Charlie bit my finger.
No. You should. No, so like two nights ago, So that's a Charlie bit my finger. No.
I should. No, so like two nights ago, I now moved it, I
about a new bike, the same bike, brought it onto my patio
instead and locked it with a U lock. So I locked it to the
railing of my patio. Five in the morning, I get welcome up
because they hear a noise. They didn't cut the lock that cut
the railing to my to my apartment, to the patio, so they could just take the lock off and take the the lock. They cut the railing to my apartment, to the patio,
so they could just take the lock off and take the whole bike.
They make like one cut or two cuts.
One cut.
Wait, yeah.
This might be a personal question.
Do you live on the first floor?
I think the AI does.
But still, like, they cut.
So, feeling your bike up bent at me?
Fucking patio?
Yeah, they just, they didn't even bend it.
They just fucking, like, you see the bars meet along the road?
It's just like, yeah.
Just like that, it's fucked up.
You should follow police reports.
I'm gonna, in Austin, you're not gonna get a bike back.
Yeah.
You might, you should still do it,
but chances are probably not.
I mean, that's also like the damaged property.
Yeah, they have now, yeah.
So that's kind of like, you should tell the apartment
that you follow something.
Yeah, you did, I just don't know why people have to do this.
I kind of felt so bad,
because like, you getting a bike. I had a bike.
I felt so bad because like, you getting a bike, both times it happened, brought you so much joy.
I fucking love riding a bike.
And it has been taken from you.
I'm just, I just, I just realized I can't own a bike.
Who do you think you're like?
I'm just not buying a fucking bike until I get my own fucking house.
Just get rid of this.
Yeah.
Keep it inside.
Yeah.
I had a bike sold in for me when I was in first grade.
Oh no.
I lived in an apartment complex and the apartments had like,
wouldn't fences and gates on the front,
but it was like tall fences like,
I was a kid so I can tell like maybe like six feet tall,
like you couldn't look over it.
It was actually like four feet tall,
it was a tiny desk.
And I remember, I left, I would leave my bike there
like in that little courtyard area
that was protected by the gate and the fence.
And one morning I walked out and my bike was gone.
I was like, oh, I should have been locking it.
Right?
I get like that total like, I'm an idiot.
Like the gates closed, but someone just has to open it.
You know, so they took your bike that day, but they gave you a life lesson.
They did.
They gave me a great life lessons. And then I didn't have a bike again for like two or three years.
Yeah, they gave me a life lesson too,
which is either if you lock a bike, fuck you.
That's the lesson that I learned.
Why don't you just keep in your apartment?
It's a part of the space.
It's a party.
Yeah, it's a bulkier.
You got four people in your room.
Yeah, it's, yeah.
And you have a lot of toys.
Now I'm looking to get this.
Well, just to have Stacy sleep on the balcony
Yeah, but they know for her off the lock her to the balcony
Just walk her to the bus. Yeah, do you like Jabba the hot
So I had a really good idea. I don't know well. This isn't okay
We're gonna be right this is not a good idea. Don't do this
But the first person or like one of the first people to be back at me were like just buy a new bike
But attach a battery to it?
A car battery?
A car battery, so that when they grab it,
they shock themselves.
It's like home alone.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh dude, just put a bunch of marbles all over your patio.
Yeah, it's like, like,
it's like,
fuck yeah.
Yeah, totally, it'll totally make sense.
You should get a security camera or something.
It makes me think that there's some sort of stuff.
I'm just gonna get a fake bike, put it on your belt.
And you again? Yeah. I, poke up a security camera.
Yeah, bust them.
Yeah.
Then put a bear hat right now.
And then put an anvil above it,
like on a roll.
On just like a one rope, that just like snaps.
Yeah, exactly.
There's an old episode of The Simpsons
where like everyone in town is like looting
and there's like riding going on.
And Homer sets up like this makeshift alarm
on the front door.
And you can't really tell what it is, but it's like there's a rope going on, and Homer sets up like this makeshift alarm on the front door, and you can't really tell what it is,
but it's like there's a rope tied to the door handle,
and it goes up and there's an alarm clock over like a fish bowl,
and then like you see like the handle of the door jiggly,
and then Mar just like, I think so much trying to break in,
Homer goes just watch the fish, watch the fish,
and then like a hand reaches in through the mail slot
and just steals the fish.
That's all he's crazy things.
That doesn't do anything.
It doesn't mean anything.
Is this made by day?
I love that episode.
So don't buy bikes.
They only bring down sea sea to side squad.
Just kill bikes.
There you go.
Don't compete the Olympics.
Maybe I've got some backers.
Maybe people don't own bikes.
They're just, you just rent them.
You have no contract. And go to the universe. Exactly. Maybe I've got some backresses. Maybe people don't own bikes, or just you just rent them. You have no contract.
Ooh, bike's gone to the universe.
Exactly.
You should steal a bike back.
There you go.
You are owed two bikes by the worst.
I was walking.
If you steal one bike, you're still okay.
Yeah, Carmically, you're ahead.
What if the person you stole the second bike is future carry?
I just tired of the old carry, shit.
Yeah, and it's just like, I'm going to get my bike back.
Yeah.
You'll be like Flash, a Batman versus Superman. That was the one scene that I want. And I was like, I'm gonna get my bug back. Yeah. You'll be like, flash a Batman vs. Superman.
That was the one scene that I want.
And I was like, I can't believe I put that in this movie.
I haven't seen it.
They're going, they're doing some flashpoint shit.
I was like, oh, that's bold.
Anyway, sorry.
In the first movie, geez.
Yeah, it's like, they're trying to set up like,
Batman's hate for Superman, which like, they do a really good,
again, I only saw like three scenes of this movie
while drunk after watching Suicide Squad.
But like Bruce Wayne running into save people
and Metropolis, oh that's fucking cool.
But then it's like he has a dream sequence,
which they do not set up as a dream sequence
very well at all.
It cuts from like present day to then bat-nax,
like Australian wasteland, he's in the bat like suit,
but then also wearing a trench coat over it
and has like double oozes and shit and fights
bat demons from the heavens and Superman's evil.
And then like, they just, it just cuts to that.
It is a dream sequence.
Okay.
When they just cut from a scene with Lex Luthur being like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, whatever people are calling him, wakes up. And then fucking the flash, just like,
tear in time, he's like,
oh, you were always right about him Bruce,
you gotta stop it, I was like, whoa, they're,
they're going there right out the gate, huh?
All righty then, all righty then.
I like that we're having an entirely psych conversation.
I make one joke, he's explaining,
he's doing a whole thing the whole time,
you're just, I'm gonna make a joke.
This is the wheels are turning. Whoa, shit, came back. Does no man's guy come out this week? one joke. He's explaining he's doing a whole thing the whole time you're just I'm gonna make a joke.
This is the wheels are turning. Oh shit. Come back. Does no man's guy come out this week? Comes out tomorrow. Yeah, you're gonna get it. You want to get it? Yeah, because you know, PC right? Yeah.
Uh, second-class citizens. I don't get it. Uh, yes. Absolutely. Yeah. I believe in the soundtracks. That's cool.
So I mean, obviously the game must be great. great Isn't it so I've lightly been following it
I'm trying not to let myself get excited for movies and games anymore
Yes, because
They found going in with lower expectations first off not knowing as much about a movie is great
I saw cabin in the woods with no lead up
I saw the button on months phone months before it came out.
And I was like, the only lead up I got was Harry Nolz
was like, you think you're gonna know
what this movie is and you're wrong.
And then he's like, just roll it.
And that was one of the best movie experiences
I've ever had in my life.
So that's like, that's cool.
Like I try to avoid the Star Wars trailers
because I didn't want to know stuff.
Yeah, I like to see a world where we only do teaser trailers.
Yeah, like if I know I'm gonna go see it
or if I know I'm gonna buy it,
I'll go, yeah, I don't need to watch anything.
Yeah, sometimes I'll let my excitement get the better of me
because I want to see it.
Yeah, but I try to avoid that stuff.
So that's what I'm doing with No Man's Sky.
I understand it's like hype for this thing
is through the roof to the point where it's now,
now the hype for it is starting to like crumble back under itself.
You guys are being like, that's a couple months ago.
Let me read this and then we'll talk about No Man's Sky.
Okay, I'm excited for this.
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So there was a lot of controversy recently
about this game, right?
Because the dude got a copy of the game early
and streamed a lot of it, posted a lot of videos, and apparently like posted that one exploit that he said,
oh, you can then reach the center of the universe, like in 12 hours.
And is that, oh no, did they show it?
Yeah, he showed it.
That's the goal of the game, right? Just to get to the center of the universe.
Yeah, but it's also a Minecraft and that the goal could be whatever the fuck you want.
Yeah.
All of that being said, all this time the developers kept saying, you know, take it with a grain of salt, the day one patch is going to change a lot of things.
The day one patch hit today and apparently changed everything.
And the patch notes are filled with spoilers, they say.
So I have not read the patch notes, so I can't tell you exactly what the drinkers are.
I read the drinkers are.
I read the version of it that I don't think that spoilers are, I just missed them.
And it was like, I guess as a person who does not read patch notes all the time associated for day one stuff
It seemed like more day one stuff that I've ever seen before people seem very happy even people who were upset with the
Direction of no man's guy and you know what was happening with it?
Everyone seems universally very happy about this day one patch. Yeah, so I don't know. I didn't see I didn't see spoilers
I didn't see they hinted at some other stuff that they were going to Add to the game do you consider that. So I don't know. I didn't see, I didn't see spoilers. I didn't see they hinted at some other stuff that they were going to add to the game. Do you consider
that spoiler? I don't know. I was like, like, like adding like bases and that kind of stuff.
Like, like, it's definitely, like, they're so going to support the game, which is really
cool. Do you think you guys checked out? Oh, it's good. People aren't getting as hyped
for games as you used to just because there's so much now. Like as a kid, I am. I feel like
there was
something like less often like once every year or six months or something and now it's like I
remember when Overwatch was like everyone was fucking foaming at the mouth for that game and now
no no no no it's coming out and people yeah I like it every time by the way anybody references
Lucy a ball I think they're talking about I love Lucy oh they fix that statue what the scary
Lucy statue remember that no no fuck talk. I never saw that.
Can you all in the storm? Can you all look up scary Lucy's statue?
It was for the beta. I was they made, uh, you see, and I guess her hometown, they made a, uh, a statue. Uh, in her memory.
Oh boy. I mean, they unveiled it. Everyone hated it. Oh, shit.
Because of the way her face looked and they called it scary Lucy.
I guess last week, they finally redid the statue and redid the face. Oh my god. Oh Jesus Christ.
Every month on the right is Lucille Ball.
On the left is that dummy from that one goose bumps book.
Yes. Yes.
It makes me think of when that woman tried to fix that painting.
Oh Jesus. It looks me think of when that woman tried to fix that painting. Oh, Jesus, the Richardson Space.
It looks like a fucking monkey.
Oh my god.
It looks like that version of the statue but melted.
Yeah, it looks like a mobster.
What the holy fuck.
No, it's someone else wearing Lucille Ball's face.
Oh, wait, it's like completely different.
Yeah, like they changed the jacket and the pose and everything.
So they just made a new statue.
That's cool.
It's a completely new statue. What's funny. Essentially, yeah. It's completely new statue.
What's funny is, if you had shown me the new one first,
and I would have gone like,
oh, that's kind of creepy.
It's still not great, let's be honest.
Okay, statues are hard.
It's not to do a statue if I'm in being.
If I were ever to do anything,
I'm going to be in a case of,
if I were to ever accomplish anything worth
having a statue made of me,
I would not want to be like me at the end of my line
when I'm like, some old dude that looks cool or whatever. I'd want it to be like me at the end of my line when I'm like like some like old dude that looks cool
Or whatever I'd want it to be like me when I was 16 and like cargo shorts and like a shitty t-shirt with a game boy
I I want to be inside the statue. Okay deal if a statue every its way to me
I will insist that a small carry also be put inside of me. No, I'm in a statue of carry fucking your statue
Oh, is that what you want?
Both of these are great.
No, I meant that I literally want my body.
Didn't even dance.
Yeah, different bronzes.
Yeah, yeah.
But then molded around you to look like miles.
Or just me.
They said a statue of him.
Yeah, I was just going to statue of me.
I don't fucking fuck miles.
Oh, I thought you were saying, okay, I understand.
I know.
I'll be next to 16 year old you.
And they'll just think, why did they make a statue
that pedified?
Yeah.
My name below will take the statue. And then they'll use it for themselves. I'd just look did they make a statue that pedified? Yeah, Nambler will take the statue,
and they'll use it for themselves.
You see a statue George Washington,
like that guy's not relatable.
He had wood teeth.
But if you see a statue of like some shit head teenager,
it'll be like, maybe I can get a statue made of me someday.
I like the thing that even his statues were,
had wood teeth.
Absolutely.
That's George Law.
Yeah, George Law.
He needs to be a thing. yeah, that's in the Constitution
Learn something today, okay, we learn two things that were in the Constitution
You can use your phone anywhere and yeah, exactly in the statues. They can't tell me what to do except that government
I see has anybody played a
About it. I'm zoomed with the art director of journey. Is that a character in Aladdin?
Prince Ali I'm zoo with the art director of journey. Is that a character in Aladdin? That's a boo.
Prince Ali. Okay, anyways.
I have no more.
I have more.
Did you?
No, but it looks interesting.
I've been, I'm a guy that has a very short attention span
and it's, oh, so this is gonna be something
I was gonna say about you.
Was that a bit?
Yeah, it was a bit.
That was a bit.
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That was a bit, right on.
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and then I'll go, oh, what's this new thing?
And I'll play that instead.
Because it used to be, like you said,
you'd save up, you get a game once, maybe twice a year.
But now it's like, I have disposable income,
I just don't have time.
So I always default back to platforms and shooters,
because that's just like, ah.
My problem is I have not played a game since Overwatch.
This fun is Overwatch.
It's really fun. I might even try to be a George. a joke. I love fucking do this great. Okay, fucking great. I want to talk about I know that's
I've got a problem
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Ooh, fuck.
If you play the Lucio Ball, god damn it.
Yeah, it's all in the way.
That game type.
In the Overwatch.
And you spawn in the goal, you're the fucking goalie.
That's it.
There's no two ways about it.
Don't leave the fucking goal.
That is your home.
Jesus Christ, man.
Hey, man.
It's like, anytime I start a game now,
it's like, first thing I do, look back,
is he saying, okay, I'm going to go.
I was like, look back, he's gone.
I'm going to be going now.
So, I'm going to make you angry at me,
which is the way I never want to do.
I played it for the first time last night.
I had not played it yet.
My second game in, I didn't realize that,
I didn't realize I spawned in the goal.
And as soon as I go, I guess I'll be goalie since you won't.
And I was like, oh, I think I did something wrong.
We won though, so fuck them.
I won a game the other day.
It was six to zero and I scored three of the goals.
It's like that's top of the roller coaster,
like getting awesome.
And then I got put into a game with someone who Swap and became junkrat
Another person who was trying to score goals against our own team. I
Me and junkrat against four people essentially it was it was in the shoot
Yeah, I was playing no I was playing with Nixon the other night some fucking bitch spawns as Farah
Guess what there's really no place you can hide when justice reigns from above carry
You're kind of just fuck. Yeah. Oh my god. How do they do that? This is Farah, guess what? There's really no place you can hide when Justice reigns from above, Gary.
You're kind of just fucked.
Oh my God.
How did they do that?
Apparently if you just spam the H key
at the start of the match, you can just get in.
You can just break it.
Jesus.
I know I'm doing it tonight.
Fuck you.
I'm still gonna pick Lucia up there.
I didn't screenshot, but I'm not a mad man.
It's fun, but yeah, they need to fix that shit.
Be someone who uses like mercy
Not even jump over there and then the other day I was playing a fucking
Competitive game it was a pick up dude. What's your rank with random?
I'll get to that second. I was playing a
Pick up game and I I saw I was like I'm gonna heal. I'm gonna be mercy
So it was like one of, I'm gonna heal. I'm gonna be mercy. So it was like, one of the things where my ultimate was up,
but there was never really a good time to use it.
Right, like it was like, okay, one dude's down,
but he's just DPS.
Oh, like, I don't know, like the tanks down,
but there's really nobody else around.
Like I'm gonna fall back.
And then like between rounds, my teammates are like,
hey, you can use your ultimate if you want, you know?
Like fuck you.
So of course, yeah.
And your arcade did a great job.
I know what I'm doing.
I know what I'm doing.
There was no opportunity.
There was no good opportunity.
It would have been a waste any time for me to use it.
Every time I play, I love playing support characters.
Like whenever I'm playing Mercy,
there's a great Panier arcade bit
where they're playing as Reaper Mercy
and Reaper goes down.
He's like, oh, Resby, Resby, and Mercy goes,
please, as if I'm going to waste my holy gift of life
on one person,
the next time someone dies, then I'll use my ult, and then she gets shot through the
head.
Yeah, that's pretty much my experience with Mercy.
Yeah, you gotta, it's a careful dance of not oversteering.
You gotta be close to the front line, but still behind the front line.
I can't stand people that play on as if she's solely an offensive character.
It's like, I get it, Just play black fucking widow or whatever the fuck
are in it.
Widow manager.
Scar Jo, I'm sorry.
I'm still doing that.
Yeah.
I didn't do this.
Somebody else did it.
And now that's all I can do, it was me.
I'm sorry.
I was a fucked grade too.
Yeah.
Now he calls it black widow.
I trust her.
Just call her Scar Jo, handsome now.
It's easier.
Scar Jo.
Yeah.
Scar Jo.
Yeah. Look, just embrace your inner junk person and play junk rat all the time
John Crats awesome junk rat is great on offense
I just do a great video that's a great video
Why junk rat is the best character. I don't that's not what it's called
That's why I started playing junk I never played junk
Everything he does kills people dying kills people Do you like a specific taggy?
Is it for character or do you have one across the board?
Specific for character.
Okay, I have one tag I use across the board.
It's the kid with the cast on his arm.
I always just like run up to the wall and I put his highs I can
and I just spam the chat, do it for him.
It's all for him.
It's all for him.
I do that and I also try to find places where there's like plants because then when you put it on the plants is basically it's all for kids. It's all for kids. I'm so excited, great. I do that and I also try to find places where there's like plants,
because then when you put it on the plants, it's facing.
It's all fucked up.
Oh my god.
I fucking love that guy.
It's fun game, man.
So the other thing I was going to say was,
Oh yeah, you're ranked?
No, no, no, no, I'll get that later.
I'm embarrassed.
I haven't even done competitive events.
I don't want to be embarrassed.
So, you just played a night.
I did not play abs this weekend.
I played, so like, we talked about this in the patch, but a couple weeks ago So I did not play absolute this weekend. I played so like
we talked about this on the patch, but a couple weeks ago, I had a chance to go out
to for access and I played Civilization 6. Oh nice. And it made me nostalgic for Civilization
if we had played a lot of still hours. I thought you'd read a much of civilized stuff.
Yeah. So then yesterday, I played Civilization 5 for about eight hours straight. Um, were you wearing pants?
I was wearing shorts.
Okay, okay.
Um, so in the past, I told stories before about how I used to sit on the ground in game
and it would give me hemorrhoids.
I'm, I think of that story sometimes and I get afraid.
I got it.
I'm just sitting on the ground and then you get up because I know like I'll be sitting
in like a review or something and I'll like I'll just sit on the floor and I'm sitting
there for like an hour and I go, I'm a stand. Yeah. So after the last time, most recently when I got a hemorrhoid, I bought a, a, a, no, like I'll be sitting in like a review or something out like I'll just have the floor and I'm sitting there for like an hour I go I'm a stand. Yeah, so after the last time most recently when I got a hemorrhoid
I bought a desk and I bought a chair. Yeah, but I bought like a chair with like a hard wooden seat
So it's not very comfortable. Yeah, I like the punishment. I didn't realize that apparently I sat in eight hours and for eight hours and didn't move
So finally was finally done
I stood up and my ass fucking hurt
It hurt like a bad hemorrhoid hurt just like my bony ass like my bones just like my fucking going through my
Lens like Bruce there as my bracing my hips or the my ass well you tailbone probably I don't know
So like even this morning it's still hurt I was like a limping around like wow
Why don't you have like a cushion or something?
You but why did you buy that chair? I know I'm stupid. Okay. I'm an idiot apparently
I still like I bought it and I thought I'll buy a cushion to put on it and then I just never bought the cushion
Did you did you ever tell a story about your chair at the at 636 when we first moved in? I forgot about that no
We we moved in the 636 like before we got moved in. I forgot about that. No. We moved in the 636.
Like before we got the building. I think like homeless people have been squatting in or something.
Like I just heard horror stories. I never saw it. But whenever the construction company left,
they left like the Foreman's chair and it happened to be in your office and you just went,
this is mine now. And you just like sat in that chair for like a good year.
Probably. Yeah. It was awesome. It was great. Now homeless people in sit in it, just the This is mine now and you just like sat in that chair for like a good year probably
It was great no homeless people in sit in it just the foreman and he's the boss
White chair was it no, no, that's not true every place. It was like
This ugly faded
Yeah
It's fucking awesome.
Yeah, it was like the found chair.
Like, oh, we just moved in.
Is the chair there?
This is mine, yeah.
Free chair, that's cool.
Yeah, man.
I remember at 636, I definitely stole one of animation's chairs.
Oh, we know.
Everyone does that.
You like that.
That's why we've started fucking labeling everything animation.
We don't just label it.
We write in Sharpie now.
I remember there was a day where we were all building
new chairs for animators.
Bernie walked by, I saw him come back
out of his office with the chair, leave his chair,
and take one of the chairs that we had just fucking made.
Yeah.
Oh, we're just the geeks that get picked on here.
To be fair, they got a shipment of chairs in.
Yes.
And they were all built, but they were sitting in the lobby. And I had been in this like really crappy chair for like three years at that point and it's like
Hey Gus is it cool if I take one of these chairs and you went I don't care
And true like like any good boss does yeah
For mine and then someone got my great chair. It's fine. We give those to interns
Yeah, we specifically have a chair that we always give to him
I'm still I'm still sitting in that same a chair that we always give to interns. I need the one with the one.
I'm still sitting in that same white chair
that replaced the original six-three-six chair.
I need to throw it away.
It's like flat now.
It's time for interns to stay there.
Yeah, we had one chair, the Joel Mann, funny enough.
When he started, we gave him that chair
because it was just like the only chair we had left.
We're like, hey, it's the new guy chair. He sat in it for like a year and then he became a lead
He was like I want a new chair. He was like give someone else the chair. He doesn't also sit in chairs like normal people
He sits like this can't you do it?
He sits like that for about six hours a day
Yeah, that's exactly what it is actually nice. I hope this is I hope this is the podcast them now
And it should be and then you put barbers face on his ass
And then you carry inside me. Yeah, I'm already in there. You just can't see me. I slipped on in
Yeah, we carry style. Yeah, I don't know if I wanted to be my style
Are we are we gonna learn that kpop dance? Yeah, we're gonna do that. Yeah, what's going on?
We're gonna learn that
We're gonna learn that I don't know what we're gonna do that. Yeah, what's going on? We're gonna learn that big about this style when we said style. What? I don't know. We're gonna
K-pop song. So issa, one of our 2D lead animated for 2D team for birthday's coming up.
She sent an email out to everybody saying like well to be fair we were playing
do this before that email. We were but she was like hey guys, so my birthday's
coming up and for my birthday I think it would be really great if we all learned
to K-pop dance together. So I rented out this dance studio.
Now I know what you're thinking, Issa, it sounds like for your birthday, you just want
us to do exactly what you tell us, you're correct.
So she's ready up for her birthday, she's ready to go to dance studio and she wants us
all to learn some choreographed.
Is it size?
That's super cool.
Prior to that though, we were already planning that with Issa and Stacey and seen in two of us and then Cole probably he doesn't know because he was in Japan
Yeah, but we already included the tall calls the one inside you go up to him about anything like he comes back from Japan
I could be like hey, we're learning Kpop and you go okay cool. I can't fucking do that
Didn't he he came back from Japan like landed in colleges like hey do you want to hang out?
Yeah, he asked me if I want to go pull them on hunting. I'm a didn't just get back. He's like you hey, do you want to hang out? Yeah, he asked me if I want to go and poke him on hunting. I mean, didn't you just get back? He's like, yeah, I didn't do that shit.
Cole, I don't think he's human.
No, I don't think he's human.
I don't think he is a silly man.
He is a alien that came to this earth
and is pretending how to learn how to be human.
He's a fast fucking learner.
Cole's a kind of guy that you'll introduce
into a game once, video game, board game,
card game, doesn't matter.
He'll play it, he'll lose, he'll go, that was fun.
What if we give it another, let's give it another shot. Let's play it one more time
That was a lot of fun and then he fucking destroy your world. You know what? Why?
He's a shark. He was lying to you that whole time. He's played that game. No
Lie I think Cole's only lie. I think no. No. Yeah. He's my neighbor. Don't tell me that he stole your bike
He never went to Japan
I don't really devious playing a steal your bike this whole time. I stole your bike. He never went to Japan. He was just constricting really devious playing a
steal your bike this whole time.
He stole your bike and took it to Japan to sell on the black market.
Did you pay in black market?
You know what they want?
My size bikes.
Yeah.
American bikes.
He can use my bike.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
He looked like a toddler on my bike.
So you talked about learning a K-pop dance.
Did you see that Gremlin Diva video
that I tweeted the other day?
No, but I want to.
I want to.
That's what my favorite thing is to kind of overwatch.
She's everybody's own.
I love the Gremlin Diva meme.
Yeah, it's great.
So the meme is, because so Diva in the game
for those you didn't do.
She's a, what?
She's a Korean in the game, like you. She's a what she's Korean in the game.
Like in canonically, she's a Korean
professional starcraft to player.
Yes, that also happens that also happens
to pilot a mech warrior robot.
Essentially, they like they had to go to
war and they thought who better to
pilot our mechs than video game players.
Yeah, so they listed.
And so anyway, I tweeted it.
We'll put it in the link.
You got to watch it. It's only like 33 seconds long. It's a musical. It's got like a Anyway, I tweeted it. We'll put it in the link up. You got it.
It's only like 33 seconds long.
It's a musical.
It's got a little music number to it.
And it gets stuck in your head.
I haven't stopped thinking about it.
So that's not a fucking video.
Is that going to maybe intro to the next RTA, RTA's panel?
I don't know.
I said it to Jordan.
And I think it like swept through the 2D office.
Yeah, they fucking loved it.
They just made her a...
So the things that came out of
Overwatch, it's that divas, a Mountain Dew Dorito eating gremlin. Yeah. Some of the gremlin
diva cosplay is amazing. I've never seen any of the cosplays. Oh my god. I've never seen
it. Some gremlin. 76 is a dad. We're all dads now. We're all dads now. Reaper is essentially
shout of the hedgehog. What else has come out of it?
I think that, I mean, those,
oh, and Genji has the best ass in the game.
It's really good.
It's really good.
It's surprisingly good.
It's better than Tracer's.
That's true.
I thought Tracer's gonna have the best butt.
That was wrong.
There's a lot of good butts in Overwatch.
I'm not gonna get much.
There's a lot of, I've seen some images.
Yeah.
Yeah, we all have.
We've all seen it now.
If anybody says they have not watched Overwatch porn, they're lying to you. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, we all have we've all seen it now If anybody says they have not watched over watch porn they're lying. Absolutely. Yeah, no, we know it's okay
Yeah, yeah, I've got a sit up there. Yeah, yeah
Oh my god, that's so awesome. There's another one make it activate
Fucking love that It's really good. I can't imagine the hours that were spent on like crafting the cast of characters for over
I think I say that cost you
No, no, wait a minute. No, no like seriously the amount because like Blizzard Blizzard be having some smart people
They yeah, they're the fucking work. I mean it was it was the bigger project beforehand, too
Yeah, it's like they, they like precision crafted each one of those characters to fit like every like little trope in a good way
and like you get from the cosplay perspective, it's like, oh, heavier girls, okay, there's May.
Oh, scrawny dudes, there's junkrat.
Big dudes, there's roadhog, it's like, man, fucking again, I just love, I'm so fascinated by that whole building.
One of those things that I think they do really well
with Overwatch, that's, it's done, I think perfectly.
And there's no spotlight on it,
is the amount of diversity in that game.
I would, yeah.
It's like, everyone's from a different country,
different races, different genders,
the gender doesn't affect your gameplay at all. Sorry as a mother fucking boss
Yeah, yeah, I feel like the only game the only games out there that are as diverse as Overwatch or like Olympics games
Mm-hmm because it's just like that's it immediately just has like every country like but like and it's kind of the what you said about two
It doesn't really matter like it doesn't affect the game
You don't really know they just do the summer game sing. We're celebrating the Olympics. And now it's like, Oh,
yeah, McCree's got a fucking American flag and and God damn,
Tracy got the Union Jack honor. Yeah, Genji's got the badass
rising sun on them. Fuck, I want that skin. Yeah, it's cool.
Man, are you gonna buy a little boxes? No, I did it once. But
but now you can get the summer games ones. Yeah, but they got me
to buy a lot of boxes. How many how much money have you spent
on Overwatch guys? 20 no, on total? Yeah, but they got me to buy a box. How many how much money have you spent on Overwatch guys 20 no on total yeah total. Um you don't have to say if you don't want to. Can they
use it? Can they like get your 50 dollars? You? Are we including the price of the game? I'm
going. Are you including the price of the game? Let's just let go up or down. Let's see that. Let's
go to go up because I have it on PC. I have $10. I've spent I have spent. Oh, I bought it on
I'm gonna go up because I have it on PC. $200.
$200.
I've spent, I have spent.
I bought it on Xbox also.
Hey!
Uh, 270 dollars.
So I bought two guys, I bought another piece of it.
I'm like, I'm giving you.
It's like a choice of an Xbox.
I've been just a boss.
And I bought a few, I think about 10 loop boxes.
How much is that?
10 loop boxes is like, it's a living loop box.
It's a child 10 dollars.
So I've spent $130 on that game.
So I bought the game in the PS4.
Thought that's where I was gonna play it.
So I bought $40 worth of loot crates.
Then I heard it was better on PC.
So I bought on PC and that became my main.
So then I had to buy $40 worth of loot crates on the PC as well.
And then what other hardware did you buy, Kerry?
That had nothing to do with Overwatch.
You should have a bitch.
Are you sure that the Overwatch mousepad
and Overwatch mouse and Overwatch keyboard should not be included into that?
I am sure but he uses those for other things besides overwatching like watching porn
And then watching overwatch porn to be fair
I thought it was in the patch to be fair. I had not bought a mouse in like a decade
It's a good mouse. It's a lot to take g5 is what I had before
I had Amazon basics keyboard G5 is what I had before. I had an Amazon basics keyboard.
And the mouse pad I had was like a free one I found on the table here once.
I remember you were really upset that when you got the keyboard because you were excited
you're like it has an Overwatch font.
It says Overwatch in the corner.
That was honestly the phone was the reason I bought it.
Keyboard font is like you hate the razor keyboard font.
I dislike it.
Oh, but the Overwatch font is fucking dope.
It's nice font. You were really upset. You're like it's more expensive than
the Chroma but Overwatch Overwatch font. I'm like okay and then I recently built my
first PC. It did. By that I mean I watched you and Gray build it and asked if you
guys would like some water. Yeah. And yeah. And and uh and uh and then you found out
when you got the keyboard it's actually not as good as the standard Chroma, but still more expensive.
It comes like $23 more, but it doesn't have
the headphone or mic jack or the USB port.
Gonna pay the last CP.
Or the M1 through five keys.
So, you know, but it says Overwatch,
I can turn that on and off, so that's cool.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You got me there, Shunkress.
It's all full of time and I launch Overwatch
and it goes Overwatch.. I gotta be honest
You I'm gonna be honest
Y'all this this whole thing is just making you want to fucking leave this podcast and go play I'm really gonna go and play over watch with
This night barbie you should go by overwatch and play with us tonight also go by PC. I'm gonna say I need to get a
Yeah, yes for nope
I'm not gonna be for that to be fair
I actually want to build like a gaming PC.
Yeah.
You should do it now.
I mean, that was actually, I think,
really a good time to do it.
Just because with all the VR headsets coming out,
like now you know the standard need to hit
and we're now at that second iteration
of VR capable video cards.
So prices have come down on what you need
in order to make a video.
What do you think I would spend on like a like I obviously have a keyboard
master monitors.
No, bare minimum to get a PC that's probably not bare minimum to get a PC
that you could run VR applications on not counting the price of the headset.
You probably spend $2,000.
What if I don't want.
It's not.
No, no, no, no, no.
I remember I Adam L S and carry out me out. $1. What if I don't want beer? It's not true. No, no, no, no. No.
I remember I add them, Ellison, carry her home me out.
I was going to be able to build one for about 1,300.
Actually, no, it was 1,200.
It was 1,200.
Oh, I remember.
But then I was like, well, if I'm going to build a PC, I'm going to build a mother fucking
sweet PC.
And I spent a lot.
I did end up spending about 2,000.
It was within 970.
I guess my price is also the same thing,
where it's like a decent computer.
Maybe not like bleeding.
What do you think I can get?
You could get $76.
Nothing.
I mean, I thought you could say $700.
I'm going to get a new phone soon here.
You can have this one for $76.
You could just don't look at my nudes.
A gaming PC.
Not a great PC. You get a PC that could play games okay for 76 dollars. You could just don't look at my nudes. A gaming PC. Not a great PC.
You get a PC that could play games okay for like 800.
Yeah, you might as well at that point just by PS4.
But I was like, a game.
Okay, yeah, I was gonna say a lot of it
for like the whole Xbox PS4 debate like
really it comes down to what are your friends play
if you're a social gamer. I think, I don't know,
or if you prefer like the bonuses,
like I love the PlayStation Plus stuff.
Like I got sleeping dogs for free
when it was still like 60 or no, like 40 bucks.
Well, also like, sweet.
I remember back in the day when we used to play
Smite at the office, almost every day.
And like I really fucking enjoyed that.
And that was really the first PC game I ever got really into.
So I think, you know, on that front, like you're talking about, like Xbox PS4, it's really
interesting what Microsoft is doing with that Xbox play anywhere.
It's a platform.
The Xbox, the Windows 10 thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't understand that.
You could buy a game and then you have it essentially on your PC and your Xbox with the
cloud save that syncs between them. I'm sorry, depending on what they say. I will I will also say to you if you're like an
avid sports watch or like if you watch a lot of TV to the Xbox is really cool and has like the whole like.
Yeah, okay Jordan. Was it Jordan? No, no, no, it's okay. It's got problems. I use my Xbox to watch TV. There's problems with it.
There's fundamental problems. They still have not fucking fixed. Like every now and then about twice a week
when I'm watching TV, I'm like, it's dropping frames.
I need to have a-
The Blu-ray player will not get through an entire movie
without getting off sync.
I've not had that problem.
I've never had it.
I need to hard boot my Xbox twice a week
because my television starts dropping frames.
What's that, why?
The built-in guide is still shit.
I fucking hate the UI, I don't get a whole thing.
The UI's in general, like when it comes to television
side of things are terrible, right?
Like cable set top boxes, fucking awful.
Yeah.
The Xbox UI, not great.
Yeah.
It's just, it's all garbage.
The biggest problem I have in, this is probably just specific to me
I had like a day one Xbox one is that I can't get the fucking controller to stay synced to the Xbox one
I I can't turn on my Xbox one with a controller. What it just doesn't fucking do like every other time
It's Xbox on no, I don't have the connection. Yeah, no, can I
I'm gonna do it, I'm just like,
Hey, let's go to the Xbox off.
Anyway, it's up and seemingly.
Let's go to the next one.
Because I'm a piece of shit.
So talking about set top boxes and like the interface
for cable TV, maybe think about something.
I can't believe we haven't talked about this before.
It's something I've been keeping up with for a couple
of months and I just never brought it up.
So you know how shitty, I don't know if you guys have cable,
you know how shitty any interface for cable TV. Yes. It's like, if you've got shitty I don't know if you guys have cable you know how shitty
Any interface for cable TV. Yes. It's like if you've got I don't have Warner you don't get to pick your box Here's the fucking cable box and it is what it is
It's slow and you know you record shit and it cuts off and it doesn't know when like stuff is time shifted
I so I don't I don't have a cable but my parents do and I have to do all my
stuff is time shifted. All right, so I don't have a cable, but my parents do, and I have to do all my technical
and fucking hate time Warner's cable boxes.
It is, and I feel like this is not getting a lot of attention in the news, but there was
a proposal in front of the FCC to essentially deregulate set top boxes so that third party
manufacturers could make set top boxes, and you could buy set top boxes
and you don't have to rent it for the cable company anymore.
Right, so like right now, like let's say you have cable,
you pay your cable company like 10 bucks a month
or whatever to rent the fucking thing you don't own.
Eventually it could be like a cable modem
where you can buy your own box, use it to interface
and then have it customized to whatever you want.
So it's like different content providers could make a set top box and it could really
re-structure the way that you find stuff, right?
Like nobody searches, like you want to watch bridesmaids, right?
On your set top box, you never hit the set top box.
Why'd you like it me when you said that?
I figured it's a movie you like.
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And...
Yes, I'd love to watch Bridesmaids with you.
And it links up all your caskets.
Oh, you could pay for it on these services or you've already had access to it's free.
Right, you're just going to hear all of your options.
Right, it's not in a way to get them more money.
Yeah, watching Netflix or wait until 8 p.m. on
TLC right? I don't know anything. I'll kill you at the show. Yeah, so you know Barbara at a H
I'm just going to one says that they spent $875 on their PC and it runs VR perfectly
So I'm staying there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but that probably you also need monitors keyboards
Yeah, I mean, I'm probably gonna spend at least a bit. I fucking love the Vive, dude. Holy fucking shit. Like, it's, I don't know if I
was on a podcast since this, but when RTX happened the Sunday of RTX, I
invited my family over after the con was done, took him out to dinner, and then
was like, let's just play VR. I have to show you this. Like, one of the biggest
reasons I bought that thing was because I was like, let's just play VR. I have to show you this. Like one of the biggest reasons I bought that thing
was because I was like, I need my parents
to know that this technology exists.
Cause like I remember, like my dad was the reason
that I ever owned an Xbox.
Like he did the research and was like,
oh this is a really cool thing
and got my brother and I for Christmas.
And I remember like him trying to play Halo,
he would try to play Madden, like when my brother
had a PS4, he bought himself Madden would try and play
like huge try video games, but like we take it for granted
at this point,
that controller is a huge barrier to engine.
Right, yeah, it is, yeah.
Like, tons of buttons and I got a whole list.
The basic fucking two analog stick controls
on a first person game is like,
it's like riding a bike for us now,
but when I started, like I couldn't help it,
look at my fucking feet forever.
Yeah.
The original DualShock didn't even have that, right?
No, original, original, original DualShock.
It didn't have an All of Sixth of it. It wasn't DualShock. Yeah, no, DualShock didn't even have that right? No, original original original DualShock. Yeah, no, it didn't have an Alexiq's right.
It wasn't DualShock.
Yeah, no, DualShock was the original PlayStation Genese.
It did not have the PS1 controller.
What?
The PS1 was a separate, like, small one.
The PlayStation controller.
I'm fucking sorry.
I'm fucking sorry.
All right, so I brought them over to try out the vibe that I loved RTX.
This was probably the best RTX ever.
The hours I spent playing that with my family, outshined that entire fucking weekend.
Like they ended up staying the night because they played to like one in the morning.
I didn't want to drive back to Santa any of that night.
Like my dad played the Brookhaven experiment and Horde Z.
Like my mom went to sleep and he was like,
all right, Becky, bye.
All right, what's that other zombie one?
What's that on the air?
It was, like I had never seen such delight
on my parents face.
Oh, yeah, there's the video of my dad, I'm playing.
It was fucking great, dude.
Like he almost destroyed my television
trying to punch his zombie.
It's the new Wii.
It was, no, no, okay.
So I mean, there's a reason why the Wii had such a hit
amongst like such a wide audience is because motion controls are more intuitive now
the we wasn't great at it like we sports was awesome at the time but like at the
time like that's a classic we sports yeah yeah no that's what I'm saying it was
awesome at the time I like I would I you know you don't think you don't think you
could go play we bowling right now and it would hold up no because I know how to
get a perfect score in we bowling you could could oh yeah, there's my mom. There's my little brother. Um, yeah, she was playing audio shield. She fucking played a Ruby volume Tucson.
Uh, uh, I think it's like time to say goodbye is like on the front page of the audio. Also, there's all my toys. My my apartment looks like Steve
Crayles apartment from 40-old version. That would be my apartment. My Meebo collection.
That's where you get your bike.
So it was like, it's exciting now to be able to share that kind of stuff with my family
because it's like, again, you get the controls are so intuitive.
One of the coolest things, when I first went to your apartment and played it, I put
on the headset, you held the controller
as down in front of me and you said grab that.
And on like in your screen you see one for one,
the Vive controllers and you touch it and you're like,
holy shit.
That shouldn't have happened.
You didn't see that with your eyes.
Yeah, exactly.
Oh God, yeah that's a weird way to think about it.
Yeah, I didn't see that with my eyes.
I saw a digital representation on the screen
in front of me.
I'm just like Gavin. I have a sp that with my eyes. I saw a digital representation that I was shooting in front of me. I'm just like Gavin.
I have a spiel I go through
when I show people VR for the first time
and that's part of it.
Like how crazy is that?
You didn't actually see that.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that's exactly the guy who did the demo for us
at Pax that we had.
That's a great line.
I'm slowly working my way through the animation department
of inviting people over.
You can only do like five people of time.
Otherwise, it gets like too crazy.
But like, yeah, I have like,
it's really happy I came over to play at that time.
I've only done it once, Babs.
Do you also in the night,
like you have like, you go to this game.
You start with games.
I always start with the lab.
I start with the lab.
Oh, sorry.
I start with porn and I end with porn.
Oh, okay, I start with the valve lab,
which is like, I would argue the Wii Sports
of the five.
I think it's now like,
when the most popular games on Steam.
It's it's general.
It does an incredible job of introducing you
to the mechanics of the majority of the AR games,
like teleportation, and using that to get around,
the idea of picking things up, just looking at things.
I always run people through,
because it's also like you want to start low, right?
So going to Mount Vespo, whatever the hell it's called
in the lab, is really cool.
It's like, oh, there's a little dog.
You can throw the stick and the robot dog goes to get it.
And like, oh, wow, it's super pretty.
The first thing I ever saw on the Vive, I was visiting the Game Grumps and Barry showed
me the aperture science robot repair center.
That was a great, great one.
Because I'm a huge portal fan.
And I, oh, you would, oh, I keep the fuck out.
It's good.
He has a video of me just going like
Then she 100 I got I actually legitimately got afraid when
What's the floor opens up no? Oh atlas. I listen. I think you so big he walks towards you
Yeah, I was also glad us coming in there's that you
I still remember the first time we tried out. I think it was the vibe right the vibe
Yeah, it was at packs and the funhouse guys tried it before us and all Adam Kovik told me was I saw whale and it winked at me
Yeah, you in the heat at a moment. Nope. That's the first thing I show anyone and I think
Really is it the blue the whale encounter the blue woman in the like drawing game and like I make it
We'll put his arm around her
Because the whale encounter you don't need controllers for and when you Go over the side and it's a way to get someone used to the headset
So that's the first thing and then after the whale encounter then I'm like, okay, then I hand him the controllers
Yeah, and then we you know, I start doing something else
So I'm gonna disagree with you on one point. Okay. I think the five controllers are not intuitive.
And I think that is the biggest barrier right now.
There's some people when I hand it to them,
I'm like, okay, there's triggers,
and this is a touchpad, and there's some side triggers.
There's some side grips.
So you have to take it in stages.
So when I show people stuff, I'm like,
okay, the first thing I'm gonna show them just going to have the trigger. Then I'll introduce
the thumb pad. Then I'll introduce the concept of squeezing for the side creases.
Have you thought about just doing the tutorial? I always run them through the tutorial
on the web. Here's what I would say about that. I think that the controllers are fairly
intuitive given the amount of control that you do need
to have.
Like one of the complaints with the Wii controllers that like there's not a ton you can do.
There's almost to do and then the joy stick that they add then it's separated.
It doesn't.
Yeah.
But I think it also it depends entirely on the developers use of the controller.
Yeah.
Case in point.
Fucking Horde Z.
Horde. Horde Z Z, nails just about everything.
I'll admit, I have a hard time playing that game
because I'm startled very easily
and that shit's too fucking real for me.
Like even in the tutorial where it's like safe
and you know you can't get hurt,
seeing all the zombies reach at me, I'm like,
oh stop, don't tickle me.
And don't eat me.
Don't though, that would be crazy eat me. Don't eat me.
That would be crazy.
If you look like me.
What would that even look like you tickling me?
Anyways, in Space Pirates trainer,
awesome game, the weapon select is there's two circular track pads on the controllers.
You press down on them, essentially think of it like a track pad on a laptop.
Well, it's also, I think it's the exact track pad
from the same controller.
Which is the best thing about the steam controller
was that it did the research for the Vive controller.
So by, you have a gun, you press down on the track pad
and it pulls up a little circular menu
and then you rotate your thumb and,
it vibrates every time you switch to one,
there's an audible cue every time you switch to one. When you let go, you see the gun change to that type of gun.
It's very apparent what you are doing and it's easy to do when you're in a high stress
environment like a first person. Horde Z, arguably more high stress because it's a horror
title. And, you know, their enemies will run at you, it's kind of dark, you have multiple areas, you gotta be checking for, you know, it's one wrong move in your fucked.
The weapon select in that game is you hold down the menu button, a small button on top
of the large circular check pad.
It's no hard to do.
And then in 3D space, a bunch of orbs appear around your controller.
Okay.
Like the moment you hit it, the moment you hit that menu button, a bunch of spheres are gonna around your controller. Like the moment you hit it,
the moment you hit that menu button,
a bunch of spheres are gonna appear
around where your controller is.
And then you can push the gun forward,
we'll pull it back, we'll move it up,
we'll move it to the right,
you essentially just touch the controller
to the picture of the gun that you want.
He did a,
whip it's like different there.
What?
Can we go back about 15 seconds in that?
We're learning right now.
At least, this is at least, as far as I'm aware,
this is the default way you switch guns.
I've always switched the way you're talking about.
And it's a pain because when you're not moving,
it's somewhat intuitive.
But when you're in a combat situation,
you will accidentally, I can't tell you how many times
I accidentally fucking got into a grabber.
Or the fucking grabber.
How do you guys feel about a hoverdunker? You're just. Uh, it's, hover junkers does some look what the fuck?
He did it different. I don't know what Jack just did that. I don't look at that shit.
That was not. You gotta talk to look at that. That's that's what it should be. That's how it should be.
That's how it's how it's absolutely. That is not how it is. There has to be some setting that we had to know about.
Interesting. One, I wonder when that was filmed. We're up to it. Yeah. okay, well maybe we're just old people that don't know the final.
I do like the way the Hover Junkers does it.
Where you push the button down
and then you move your hand toward what you want.
The Hover Junker's interface is interesting.
You essentially have, you can have, yeah,
like it's similar to Horde Z, but better in some way.
I guess because they get rid of the,
what is it, the Y axis?
Yeah, so I mean, like I'm holding my hands out. I know, I can't remember Yeah, so I mean, like, I'm holding my hands out.
I know, oh, I can't remember exactly.
It's like, oh, I went with the pistols,
to go out.
Oh, right, right, right, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I had an uno-stractionist.
Yeah, like, I went the shotgun, I go in,
I want the rifle, I go up, like,
I can memorize that.
I don't have to do this, I would not want to do that.
Or that also, it's like a difference between that
and that and the, like, this.
Yeah, that's, there's too much margin for error.
Yeah, and then you're like,
Horde Z, you know, which is that?
Like which one am I looking for?
Well, because it's another example.
Another example is a battle dome, great game.
However, the top menu button on the right controller
is like, what is it?
Weapon select or something.
And then top bottom trackpad on the other one is select.
And it's like, it doesn't quite make sense. I think it depends on the developer and how well I use it.
Love Battle Dome. I never show that to anyone who's using VR for the first time.
Yeah, I don't think that's it.
I don't think that's it. You've got to have several hours under your belt and familiarity before you're able to switch
something like that.
You know it does a good job.
Requirement.
Adam Ellis just downloaded it.
I haven't played it yet.
The paintball game type that they have in there is
it's like I want to say it's better than battle dome, but
Just because of like the sci-fi nerd in me. I like battle down more because of the techno music and the aesthetics of the like arena
But there's more like battle dome doesn't doesn't do a very good job of like letting you know if you're successfully doing damage to the enemy race
I mean it's super it's super early right, but the
Oh fuck go ahead you're gonna say something
Get back to your point for a second. I think the controller would be I actually I do like the vibe controller
I think it'd be really a lot better if they flipped which one the steam button was the system button because the one on the top
It's hard to get you absolutely that's's the thing I want to like reach for.
I agree.
And I think they should do something else for the grip buttons.
Yeah.
The grip buttons just don't work.
Or they have two levels.
Or like there's been a weird place.
Like they need to be more like further up.
I just I wish that they did something like a like bumps on it or something like I don't
like yeah.
Like when you're doing like the tutorial for example you can turn you look and go my
fingers I think are on the button because you actually don't see your fingers
you're like that feels about right yeah I'm playing games like maybe yeah I
don't know I I think what's interesting about a lot of the steam game or not
steam game sorry the VR games right now is that there's some that will thrive
solely on execution of a game mechanic so like like we said battle dome has a
lot of problems, but it's
fucking fun. It's fucking fun. The ones that really shine though, because most of them
at this point are all still proof of concept, kind of tech demo type games. They're all
like $15 games that revolve around one basement. But the ones that really do a great job
are the ones that have like extra policy. So, um, job simulator has got a great one.
I tried to show that to everybody. Yes, job simulator has got great one. I tried to show that to everybody. Yeah, yeah. Shines with its imagination.
So first off, it's funny.
The writings are really good.
Are they?
What's that?
They're local.
They're stuck out here.
We should hang out there.
Oh, that's cool.
Yeah.
Um, but like taking, you can grab by, at no point, do you have to do this, but like you can
take a potted plant off the top of your cubicle, put it underneath the coffee machine, turn
the coffee on and then the coffee waters the plant, the plant gets bigger.
And it's like, oh, that's super charm. My favorite thing doing that cubicle is just throw stuff over. Oh, turn the coffee on, and then the coffee waters the plant gets bigger. It's like, oh, that's super tricycle.
My favorite thing in doing that cubicle is just throw stuff over.
Oh yeah, and just stuff your colors.
Yeah.
And then there's like, there's two different kinds of people.
Oh god.
People who listen to the instructions in job simulator, and people who do not even realize
that there are instructions in job simulator, I've demoed VR for a lot of people.
Really?
I can't imagine not.
A lot of people who just like, fuck the instructions, fuck that. I'm just going to explore this. I'll do both. I'll see what the
job is. I'll go, okay, that's going to be the last thing I do. Yeah, fuck with stuff first.
I'll go, okay, I guess I'll do the job now and I do the job. You could touch pretty much anything
in that game, right? Yeah, it's really, really cool. The other things that like nice little touches,
hover junkers, they did what,
something that I loved about the Gears of War franchise,
like Love It Or Hate It, they made reloading fun.
Like the active reload game mechanic is brilliant.
Like reloading in any shooter is like a pause in the action.
And that's good.
It builds in pacing into any sort of enemy encounter. have to keep track of your ammo like it's cool thing
But then they add a game of chance to it if you hit it just the right time you can get bullet you'll reload faster
And if you have the skill to do it, but if you fuck up. Oh no it takes longer to reload and hover junkers made reloading fun
If you you fires it so there's no there's no counter for your ammo you have to if you have your six-year you have to count
one two three four five six okay I'm out and then what is it you push down on
the track pad you flick it and lowers it it automatically refills and you
flick it back yeah so you so you're you're flicking out the I think I think
I'm sorry yeah you got to actually spin it then you spin it yeah and then you
flick it back in if it's a double bear shotgun you go boom boom you
Flip it forward
Hit it twice put them in and then check flick it back and that makes it fun and so it's a small touches
If you ever really make a great out of ammo out of ammo like a tower defense game where you can go and like possess
Your individual units. That's cool. And if you possess like a sniper the way you reload is you shoot and then you got to pull the bolt back
It's awesome the round comes out. You got to put it you reach down
Shraven you bullet put it in and then slide the the bolt forward and then you can shoot that it's wait this is VR
Yeah
It's like you really so you really incents you to hit have you make your shot count yeah
Reloading is through four seconds that I'm gonna come out with controllers
that are like gloves?
That's, it's gonna get out of it.
What I was about to ask is do you have,
have you looked into the leap motion?
Yes, seeing it.
So there's a, there's a,
apparently it's working pretty well,
or for some people, there's a,
before the, the vi was even out,
there's this little thing called the leap motion,
and you put it like, you know,
you have a keyboard in your mouse,
you put it here, and you can just hold your hands
over the keyboard, and it would just,
you could just do like,
that, to like go to the next page of that.
A little kind of on the gimmicky side,
people will start emouting it to their headset,
and you can actually get hand tracking in games.
Whoa.
Yeah.
So yeah, I mean, there's just gonna be something
like that eventually.
I mean, people are working on gloves now, too.
I mean, it's gotta happen, at the same point.
My hands when I quit.
Hands down, I think my favorite thing about VR right now,
specifically, this is not going to exist forever
is the community.
It reminds me so much of the first year of Xbox Live.
Xbox Live was my first experience with online gaming.
Like I was in a PC gamer, like as a kid,
at least at that point in time.
And neither were a lot of the people at own consoles.
Like that was their first time.
Even honestly, I played MMOs a lot.
I should not have, but I was playing it
with most of them, I was like 10 and 12.
Well, I'm not doing scavenging shit.
No, no, no.
My brother loved her in skate.
I was playing Planet Side.
I played World Warcraft the Day.
I came out.
Penguin World.
Cloth Penguin.
Absolutely.
I played even then, like I was around for original Xbox One,
I played like Unreal Tournament 2004.
Fuck.
And playing that online, like, on an Xbox,
it was like, fucking crazy.
It was great because it was, for a lot of people,
because it was so new to them,
everybody was super polite and, and understanding
and accepting, like, you forget it's like,
the Zombies game type,
which has been in what every Halo game
since Halo three at this point,
was something that people just did in Halo two.
They would say, hey guys, good match of Team Slayer,
hey I made this game type called Zombies,
if you guys want to join, sure let's play.
Everyone gets in the lobby,
and then he explains the rules.
Everyone says he goes, okay, what do we do?
So, if you're on red team, you can only use the shotgun.
You have a sword, but you can only use the shotgun you have a
sorbid can't use it now one person's gonna be a zombie they're gonna be green team who wants to be green team
alright uh... sonic the shadow uh... you're gonna be our first zombie sixty nine sixty nine xo xo for twenty
you're gonna be no that was your two of xbox you're right you're gonna be our zombie if you get killed by a zombie with a sword
you have when you're dead you switch to green team and then you can only use
uh... you can only use the sword and people follow the fucking rules
it was a god damn honor system and like
and now if you try to do that if you try to go into a game go hey guys i think i
think it's shut the fuck up assholes or except they'd be like nine
and they also would say assholes but they also would say assholes they'd say where they're not gonna say
uh... but uh... but now it's like I joined rec room which to me rec room
It's like it kind of feels like we sports, but there's more of a social aspect to it
You make your character you spawn in the rec room in the exact same place that every other player spawns and people will be like
Oh, oh, you can wave at each other you like you can see their hands
There's achievements for if you go to do a high five when you high five with another player the controller vibrates and it makes little sparks
That's awesome
And you're like it rewards you for being social you can pull the trigger and you fist bump and you'll get like you'll
So like we did the thing like we did a line
We ran down a line and gave everybody high fives after a game of pain ball and it was super fun and did you have your mic on?
Oh, yeah, so that's the thing you can if you do this if you bring the control up to your mouth as if you're covering your mouth
That is muted and if you do it again, you're unmuted. Um
But I joined the game within 30 seconds like
I was looking at myself in the mirror
And I was like, oh wow, this is so cool
And then I just saw orange and I was like oh, whoa, oh, and I realized somebody had taken a gatorade like water bucket
Whatever the fuck you call and put a water cooler and put it over my head,
and I took it off, and I was like,
oh, I didn't know you could do that.
And some guy goes, oh, is this your first time playing?
I go, yeah, he goes, oh, dude, let me show you around.
It was so up here, that's where this is the hangout room,
the death show, there's nothing here.
Over here, there's ping pong, down that hallway,
where you could play racquetball if you want to do that,
really though you want to play a paintball.
And then some other guys like, oh, paintball, fucking rules.
So you wanna play paintball?
Hell yeah! All right, let's all gather near the paintball room and everyone came over
It's like George's party. All right. Let's do it
And then you start the game and all the all the audio is based on proximity
So when you're in a game of paintball you'll hear the other team being like
Go around the other side fucking reds fuck them up fuck them up
And then like I then when you get close if you I turn the corner
There's an enemy we both shoot each other
There's a brief like three seconds where he goes,
bing, and you get paint on your face,
and you drop your gun, and you can see the other person,
and they'll go, oh, you got me, that was good,
that was good, and then you respawn.
And it's just, stop coming into work,
and just make the office in VR.
Please, so I can just sit and home.
My crazy move was with the Retro Arcade.
Yeah. Right now, I think I think
actually they finally put it up for purchase, but they had a demo for a while. Really all it
is is an nostalgia trip. It's a virtual arcade with like the like galaxy patterned carpet
for black lights. There's a bowling alley on one end. There's all these cabinet arcade
games. There's like the basketball arcade game. And then there's a bowling alley on one end. There's all these cabinet arcade games. There's the basketball arcade game.
And then there's an area where you can find cassettes
throughout the room and play them in a boom box
that's connected to this online radio service.
So I put it in and fucking, I don't know,
it was like, gringo back or something
and it's like the A.S. and I was like,
oh, this is fucking cool.
Bring it back, cool circle.
But there's a bunch of big leather couches in the area
It really just it does feel like a place where you just go and kind of hang out. Yeah
It just so happened. I managed to line it up. I lined up the virtual in-game couch with my actual couch in my living room
I put a cassette in the tape and I sat down on the couch and I lost my goddamn mind. It was fucking
Unreal like a trust fall. You're like I'm and I lost my goddamn mind. It was fucking unreal.
It was like a trust fall.
You're like, I'm pretty sure my couch is on line.
Well, no, what was oddly enough,
I didn't have to trust myself that that couch existed.
Earlier that night, I was trying to get to my keyboard
to take a screenshot.
My keyboard, imagine where the table is right now.
That's where my desktop was.
Between me and the table was a virtual table.
And I was walking towards my computer to take a picture.
And then I stopped and was like, wait,
I'm gonna run into the table.
No, wait, that isn't a table.
There's no table here.
I can walk through this table.
And I like gingerly walked through the table
and I felt like I was committing
some sort of crime against God.
And then I hit F12 and then I slowly walked away.
The first night I played VR stuff,
there's the archery game in the lab.
Oh yeah, yeah.
Like you walk up to it and it looks like a tabletop game
and then you go down as like an archer.
I tried to lean on that table.
Oh, go.
I'm just like, I'm playing by myself.
Wait, tell me you fell.
No, I didn't fall.
I just went like, whoa, I thought that was real.
And then later that night, I was like brushing my teeth
and like I went to go lean on the counter
and I stopped myself and I, no this one's real.
I was like okay, everything I know is now possibly a lie.
I could not be a bigger supporter of the vibe.
Or any of the VR tech for that.
Like I thought when everyone's talking about
vibe and Oculus and like VR,
it's gonna be fun gimmick,
in 10 years it'll be a thing.
Nope, it's now, we're the thing right now.
And that could be more exciting.
And the thing is, the more people that get it now,
and so experiences the now, the faster we're gonna get.
You wanna get to that full dive?
I don't wanna use my body anymore.
It's already failing, I can't get a bike to exercise.
I'm fucking done, let me fly. Okay, that's all I want. Well, we got to wrap this up.
We got to watch this exact conversation. Yeah, we still have to do the push up. So I just want to remind people if you are
musically talented or not send us a theme song to podcast at ristief.com. We can use your original podcast names. Please don't use licensed music. You get us in trouble.
We will find out.
We will find you.
So, we will not use it.
So, send us your podcast names, podcast your CES.com.
Alright, well thanks everybody for watching.
We'll see you guys next week.
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