Rooster Teeth Podcast - The Final Rooster Teeth Podcast

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

This is the end Hold your breath and count to ten Feel the Earth move and then Hear my heart burst again For this is the end I've drowned and dreamt this moment So overdue, I owe them Swept away, I'm stolen

This is a Mr. T production. Welcome to the only podcast proving the DEI ruins companies. It's the RT Podcast. Oh man, for one final time, I am your host Armando Torres and joining me as always is... As never again is Andrew Rosas. Hello. And... again is Andrew Rosas, hello. And. Apparently not good things also come to an end. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha The last episode, not just of like, our hosting this show, of RTP.

Yeah. This is the last one. They, for some reason, let us have this one. I don't know why, but you know. This is a truly, truly wild choice, but you know what, we're here. We're queer. And that's what brought down the,

and that's what brought down the, Crazy, crazy camera switch to Griff in that moment. He's also queer. Eh, not as much as you. I'd say more. Just per square mile. In surface area. In surface area.

Volume wise, I can read so much more common. So much more queer than you. Queer, yeah. Ooh. That's what they said. Why did they not pick up 12 more seasons of this? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I just love, you know, we had the show for like, yeah, like about a year. I feel like our first episode was almost a year ago, which is wild to think about.

But, you know, I will be, I'm going to be a little bit serious here. I know this is like a comedy show and whatnot. You know, the comments don't think so. But anyway, I know this is a comedy show and whatnot. But like, you know, I've been here for six years, almost seven years. And this was the most fun I had at this company. Like even when doing, even when I was in core and we were doing sketches every week, that was fun and that was cool and it was production.

But truly doing this show with my best friends was the best time I had here in this whole damn company, the whole time I was here. So I love you guys. Yeah. I really, really appreciate the last year we've had here. Ooh, wow, I didn't think I was gonna get emotional. I just got a little misty.

I just got a little misty. You got a little misty. My favorite was Last Laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I won that. You were like, I won that. I did not win that and I did not like it.

I liked it, hold on. I should clarify. I liked the show. I did not like making the show because it is an ancient torture device of making people bomb for 12 hours and then hate yourself. No, I mean, I am so glad I didn't have to do that show because I, like, some people that were on that show

are just funny people, not comedians, and then there were people like you who are comedians and, like, a very specific, like, section of hell that that is of going to just bomb for 15 hours a day. Like... It's truly a terrible feeling, but this... Yeah, yeah, you're right. This has been my favorite.

I think that... So, oh my God, do you guys know what my anniversary date is? The day that I got hired? What? It's 420, dude. My first day of work is 420. It says all in your severance... in your severance package that you found out.

My severance papers are actually just a pack of Ross, dude. I'm sick of that. They mail it to you, but you can't use it to smoke. Yeah, the envelope says for tobacco use. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, so coming up is, man, I think my third year here, I don't know how long I've worked here.

I think it's been three. You've been here for? According to my severance paperwork, it'll be 6.4 years. Whoa, God damn. We almost got hired at the same time. Yeah, I'm like in the middle of the seventh, would have been the seventh year.

Jesus Christ. So maybe I'm approaching year four. I don seventh would have been the seventh year. Jesus Christ. Yeah, so maybe I'm maybe I'm approaching your form I I don't know. I'll check my LinkedIn after this So how did you start working here? Oh, man. I felt like I've told this before I used to get adult swim and we were doing we for the marketing team and we Did an activation on the RTX main stage in like 2017 I think and then AT&T bought Turner and they had a hiring freeze and I lost my job because

I was like part time. I was like a it was like it's like one step above an intern below a coordinator to train you to be a coordinator. And then they were like, we're not hiring because we can't hire, because AT&T said no. So I said, what was that fucking place I went to in Texas? I'm not gonna live in Texas. And I'm gonna apply anyway.

And then now I'm here for seven years. You were living in Georgia? Yeah. Oh God. Yeah, and I was like, what was that place I went to that convention? They seem pretty cool. I guess I'll apply there. And then you started working for our sales team, right? Yeah, and now I'm here. I'm here

I'm not for very long This is uh, what do we got Tyler? two weeks For 30 days in this recording I thought it was 15 minutes really They've got a timer set up back there and I don't know what happens when it goes off. Yeah, when it goes to zero, fuck.

But yeah. I think what's really interesting about your story is that you have every funny guy in the office dream job of being such a funny guy in the office. They go, we're calling you up to the major. That's literally kind of basically what happened. I just kept telling them jokes and they were like, do you want to do it here?

And I was like, okay. I guess that also means I was probably bad at my other job. No, I think you're good at your job. I was fine at my job. I think you're good at your job. I was good at the parts of my job I liked. I think that's everybody. Yeah, yeah, one time I got-

Yeah, I don't know that that's exclusive to just you. I think that's a universal human being. Because I was given the idea and the pitching and the writing it, but then when it was like, can you do this spreadsheet? I was like, what if I killed myself? Okay, yeah. I don't know that it's universal,

but it's definitely universal within this podcast. Sure. Of, yeah, we exude heavy ADHD student energy. Yeah, we start so strong. Yeah Yeah, yeah coming out the gate. Oh strong constantly scared that every manager I've ever had is gonna call my mom and go I really like him, but he's not applying himself same That's just the annual review cycle, but you should be applying himself to other jobs Because he is canned. What was your first production that you ever worked on?

Like in sales or non-sales? Non-sales, like as an on camera. I think it was Last Laugh 2. I thought I'll show, yeah. Which is an insane thing to have put me in. Well, wait, I don't think it's that crazy. I mean, it's, first of all, they need bodies. They do need bodies.

They needed bodies. They need soldiers to run at the gunfire. I was definitely running at the gunfire because I got out first. Yeah, you were first up the boat at Normandy Beach. Yeah, and I knew that was gonna happen. No! Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Not even, I'm that was gonna happen

Yeah, I'm just a guy who's trying to lower the fucking thing so everyone else can run down Just work on the boat. Oh My god Who didn't know that's where they were going Wait, what? Said Normandy be those are fucking not Is that Normandy Beats? Oh, those are fucking Nazi. Those are Nazis. What are we doing here? Oh, normally I just do tours.

Yeah. Sorry, but I guess so are you now. Stupid. Terrible. Wordplay, we love it. Man, first production being Last Laugh. What a crazy trial by fire kind of way to get in there. And then you joined STF, right? Yep.

I think it was, I think I was, when I was talking about what I was gonna do, it was either join STF or see if I could get in with Funhaus. That would have been the move. That would have been the move. That would have been the move. Yeah. But I didn't do that.

I did STF instead. But you know, to a lesser extent, maybe that was the right move. That's fair. Cause we had a lot of fun. We did so much cool stuff. You guys did do cool stuff. It was a lot of fun.

It was such an awesome thing to witness. TikTok loved us. TikTok loved you. TikTok loved us. Yeah. And that was your stated goal with STF. Was to make a vertical comedy content group for a new audience who was unfamiliar with Rooster Teeth.

But like so many, and maybe this is the root of a lot of, not just Rooster Teeth problems, but media in general. I'm going to let you guys in on a little secret here. Being really popular on a platform, a lot of people think being really popular on a platform plus question mark equals money. No one knows what that question mark is. No one knows what it is. No one knows how to convert a lot of views

and stuff like this into money. But not just like money, it can be money for you, money for you, money for a company, no. It doesn't, I truly don't believe that it works that way. And it's why, I mean, holy shit, the hypocrisy here in the statement I'm about to make is crazy. But I think that staying as independent as possible

when creating like, you know, a sort of like channel or company is the way to do it with a cult podcast, the show that I, you know, that I did here. And I've talked about the story before, but basically I did Colt Podcasts. We got picked up by The Roost, weirdly because one of Paige's coworkers knew a member of The Roost, like their exec team or whatever,

and said, hey, my coworker has a podcast. And this person went, everyone has a podcast, but you're my friend, so I'll listen to your coworker's podcast or whatever. And then I was like, oh, this is pretty good. Got us on the roost. They were like, your numbers aren't very good. So let's get you on some roosterteeth stuff

to sort of work with people. And that's how's get you on some Rooster Teeth stuff to sort of you know, like work with people and that's how I met Like Blaine and Chris and then they just liked working with me and kept saying oh you should work with this person or this person or this person and then eventually Omar at Funhaus was like you just want to work here and I was like, yeah I am so sick and tired of making podcasts and all I want to do is make really fun content. And Omar said, that's great. I've got the perfect job for you. Running the Funhaus podcast.

You said, but I get to do other stuff, right? And he said, yeah. They said, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, let you do whatever anyone else doesn't want to do. The Funhaus podcast, Google Trends, thumbnails. Hey, everyone in Funhaus did thumbnails. Didn't feel like it at the end. Yeah, so yeah, I got to work at Funhaus, which is just awesome.

Just such a great experience, because they're all fucking, they're all sick. And I'm pretty sure that When they were forming SCF because that was around the time that I started working here I think that I took your open position over at fun Yeah, we should have fought we should be enemies to the death yeah, yeah, I like this friends to enemies This is how we go out in the last episode. Friends to enemies arc is crazy. Oh, I'm cracking a pool cue and putting it on the ground here for the last five minutes of the show.

So, enjoy that. You know what? What if we do this? All three of us put up our severances right now in a pot. The three of us battle to the death. Battle to the death, get all of it. Physical fight. Obviously, I was gonna say, like pistols at dawn or like weaponry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, get all of it. Physical fight. Oh, I was gonna say, like, pistols at dawn

or like weaponry. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm talking, hold on, let me get real big. Yeah, see that? I sit up and I'm out of frame. No, no, no, I'm slouching back down, you're okay. Yeah, physical fight. Here's the thing, Mondo would probably win

because of just size, brute strength. Now, the way he wouldn't win, the only way I could see either of us coming out on top is just tiring him. Yeah, endurance for sure. Going endurance. Everyone always says this. Everyone always says this. Yeah, you might be strong, but I've got the endurance.

I don't mean endurance. I'll stand in the center of the ring until you come to me, and then I'll go fucking the... I'll become the monkey from Nope and just fucking beat the shit out of you on the set. I was thinking the Godzilla King Kong movie where he picks up the one monkey and hits him with the other monkey.

Oh, and just fucking beats the shit out of him. Ooh, God. I am realizing that I spiritually am just Big Monkey. That's what I've always been. Big Monkey? Big Monkey. Big Monkey. Big Monkey like banana.

Oink, oink, oink. Oink, oink, oink. You don't like banana. Andrew, how did you start working here? I got, okay, so I wrote a, I think we talked about this briefly when we just like aired all our grievances in the last episode. But I wrote a pilot. A sitcom pilot. And Gus heard pilot? Pilot? Yeah.

And I heard you on the spot. Exactly. No, I wrote a sitcom pilot that I gave to a few friends to read, and a couple of them really liked it. And then one of my friends, Owen Edgerton, was working here on a couple of projects. He was working with Rooster Teeth on a couple projects, and he knew a couple of the producers. And he was like, I really like this. Do you mind if I send it to somebody over at Rooster Teeth?

Because they're looking for someone to come in and rewrite all of Laser Team 2 while they're filming it, like literally on the set on the day. And I was like, yeah, I can totally do it. Just saying, by the way, this is an important career tip for all you kids out there who want to get into the business, and really anything. At some point, you're gonna be asked to do something

you don't know how to do, and you're just gonna have to say yes, because I got asked to rewrite a script on the set, I've never done it before, and I just said, yeah, I can do it, and then you just have to kind of fake it till you make it, but it worked out great, it's how I got a job here. That's just life. So that's just life.

So that takes professional advice. Do not let your fear of not being able to actually know how to do something get in the way of actually saying yes to an opportunity and figuring it out as you go. Cause we're all freestylin'. This is bebopping and scattin' constantly. I feel like everything we've ever done here has been like,

I don't know how to direct a thing, I guess I'll do it. Yeah, we gotta, somebody's gotta. Let's do it. Shit. I also remembered, by the way, not to cut you off, but I remembered what I was saying earlier Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta.

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Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. Somebody's gotta. I'm the president of a company and I yeah, I had to go talk to an accountant and he would be stuff He would say stuff like okay. So what's your like average employee base and I was like like from the tip to the base there I It's mostly just me so

And then he didn't like that answer so I had to go to a different different accountant and he said Robert told me about you. You're the dick guy. Yeah. So I had to start a company. I had to set up a Patreon. I had to do all of that stuff. And what I found is that it's extremely lucrative when there's two of you. The moment you start hiring people, it becomes a fucking nightmare. When it was just Paige and I starting a Patreon and I was shipping all of those shirts and shit out of our house, out of my house, sorry, actually, not even my house, out of my then girlfriend's apartment, it was so much more lucrative.

You know, it was very, we were able to live. I was able to pay my rent. I didn't have anything to like focus on or whatever. And then the operations started growing and we started touring and I started working here at Rooster Teeth so I had like less time and I had to start hiring employees. And then it was like, oh fuck, we can't scale.

This can't scale. This is so impossible unless it becomes a full-time job. And the way that it scales is I just lose out so much of my time. So yeah, that realization that like, it's really hard to make any of those big numbers make any kind of money for you, unless it's a very independent operation, which sucks.

This last episode we've chosen to make a business chat podcast, so trying to coach you and all. Learn the air of our ways. Don't get into this business, it's horrible. It's nothing but wall to wall heartbreak everywhere you go. No, it's like, I think that being in the entertainment industry is a lot like slacklining,

where you never have sure footing, but the moments that you do feel stable are really fun. Yeah, and then if you fail, you'll fucking die. Yeah. What is not correct about this metaphor? I guess, you know what? Yeah, that's actually a very fair comparison to the thing that we're supposed to do. There's also nothing I'd rather do. And also, I would not have changed the choices that we made working here for the world.

No. One of my favorite parts about working here was meeting you guys. Sorry, that we made. Yeah. Another choice is that we made. That we made. I would have changed a lot of choices.

If I had a time machine, immediately I'm going, first of all, killing Hitler. Then after that, with the blood still on me, I'm going, I'm grabbing Gus and I'm going, don't take the full screen money. Uh. Uh. Uh.

Uh. And then maybe a couple other choices as well. Two Hitler bloodied hand prints on the lapels. Don't take the full screen money. On Gus's lapels. Well, full screen is how I got here. Oh, okay. Well, then I'm going back again.

Again, still covered in the Hitler blood. I'm not taking a shower. And I'm grabbing him again and going, dude, take the full screen money. But I'm changing outfits so that it's more confusing. Of course. As if he came from another alternate future where he didn't take the full screen money

and it was way worse. I truly- Yeah, it's hell valiant in the fucking back of the future too. Oh man. Oh my God. Again, I know in this hypothetical situation we've created, I like that Gus doesn't know

why I have blood on me. Both times I come there covered in someone else's blood. Or who the fuck you are! He doesn't know! What if he's just like, was that an older me? No, come on! That's not fair. When Gus was my age, he looked 40.

That's not fair. So fucking funny. Was that my son? Maybe, actually, yeah. I could be Gus's son. Yeah, you're about the right height. Man, I feel like, I don't know if we've talked about it on the show before, I feel like we have to have,

is that Andrew and I were planning on making a biopic of Rooster Teeth, the Rooster Teeth biopic. Yeah, I remember we pitched that. Yeah We were going to the way that we were going to make it work Financially was we were doing those cold opens Sketches that we started doing. Yeah When they love this, I've fun man I don't know if we ever even talked about this. We pitched the fact that we would do a cold open sketch every once in a while.

Oh yeah. We were like, yeah, we'll do this like on special occasions. Once in a blue moon. Once in a blue moon when we have something. Cause we filmed that first sketch, the Goodfellas sketch. And we were like, it's fun. It's just like a fun little thing that we do. What?

We pitched it that way. And then much like Michael Jackson in the filler music video, you look directly the camera with yellow demon eyes in a freeze frame. Yeah, I'm not gonna waste our fucking budget. Yeah, and then we fucking did it every week. We did it every week. And they never told me to stay, they never said anything.

I didn't think they knew we were doing it. They didn't. Yeah, they did. They didn't know we were doing it. Because we would take an extremely low budget, mostly the cost of just like paying people to work on it, honestly. Andrew and I would write a script every single week.

And then myself or usually myself or Drew would direct. And then I would edit for like 17 hours or something. Not straight, like a little guy. And then I would, yeah, we would put it together and put it out and somehow it would work. And it was, God, how many cold opens did we make? Like 10? 10 maybe.

It was so gratifying. It was, it was the best, it was the best feeling. When we took over RTP and we were doing that, it was the fact that we were making what we had called the Dana Carvey show, which is a very real show that if you're a fan of this show, you would probably like. Dana Carvey was given a TV show where he was able to do sketches and weird shit.

And it was very funny. And the writers' room was packed with some of the funniest comedians ever. Maybe one of the most stacked writers' rooms in all of history. Everybody was in The Dana Carvey writers. Everybody you know, like funny people, not just funny writers, but funny people you know now famously were in that writer.

I think like Colbert was like the shit bag of the writers. They were like, yeah, fuck this new kid or whatever. And yeah, it just it was very funny, but it did not resonate with the right audience. It's a huge hit now. They, I think Hulu made a documentary on it called Too Funny to Fail. Yeah.

Yeah, it's just, that's what we decided to make, a show that we were proud of, that we thought was really funny, to make it for as long as we wanted. And we were making the cold opens. Man, that schedule was fucking insane. Cause because basically on Wednesday we would have a writers room we would come up with a cold open idea and we would come up with a segment idea and we would a game a game and like or the cares oh topics to talk about yeah we come up with all

this stuff and then from Wednesday, Thursday and Friday, we would have to write everything. We would write the game segment, we would write the cold open sketch. And do our other jobs because we were still in ProDev at that point. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Also like making decks, making pitches, meeting, meeting, meeting. Like a lot of meetings. A lot of meetings. A lot of meetings that I felt like I didn't need to be in.

So mostly, mostly we didn't need to be in so most mostly I bet if you took a survey of this company I bet if you took us any company not even just that one I bet if you took a survey of any company and you asked every everyone up to the CEO down to the person in their mail room who attend 15 meetings a week how how do you like do you feel like you need how what percentage of meetings do you feel like you absolutely have to be at? Every single one would say 10 to 15% only. And all being, all working at a job is,

is going to fucking meetings. It's insane. It's insane. A majority of meetings I feel like could have been an email and a majority of emails I feel like could have been a Slack message. And a couple, and a Slack message could have been an emoji. Which is just the salute emoji.

Ah the amount of times that we sent that out. Yeah so we would we would we would be we would be doing our regular jobs and fucking hustling from Wednesday to Friday to get this shit ready get the shot list together hand it over to everyone. Basically, also our production crew, a glorious gang of troops that were ready at any time to do the thing we wanted to do. Brainer than the troops, better than the troops. A truly painful experience and I appreciate them so much

because we would basically on Friday hand them our nutso script and shot list and go get ready it's gonna be hell. There's always a weapon of some kind. Look we got Cameron out there looking wistfully. Oh those were the salad days. Incredible days yeah we would we would do that Monday. We would make sure that everything was ready. And then Tuesday, we would film everything. And then that's when the cycle really started because immediately after that, we needed to do notes. We needed to do cut-downs.

And then I needed to edit this sketch. And then it became just like my entire waking hours, all of them, became making that show. And I know this makes it sound like I'm about to talk about crunch culture or something. I've never been happier. It was the happiest I had ever been. And I really enjoyed making those things.

Yeah, when you're making stuff that you like, you feel like you have purpose. And purpose is the juice, man. So you feel like we're working something, making it really good. And honestly, yeah, those first few months of doing the show when we were making the cold opens and doing the podcasts and stuff like that,

and when we still had the company's attention, because they lost interest in us pretty fast after that. They had the baby. They had the shiny new toys to play with. That's what always happens. But that's anywhere. But yeah, that time was hectic and crazy. And everyone was killing.

I wasn't. I was doing shit. No, I was writing. Shut up. But everyone was working really hard. And we were making the statement, here's the best part. Here's the thing that like kills me though, is that it isn't like,

cause when we were approached to do this show, we were like, okay, can we do it our way? Which is this, this, this, this, this, this. We did not get that at all. No. What we made was a compromise and it was still a fucking blast. Yeah.

Because these people are a blast and this crew, everyone who works here is a fucking blast. So I'm just as amazing and fun as doing the cold opens and the show that we were kind of like corralled into was, not corralled, that sounds bad, but the show that we ended up making was such a blast. I can't even imagine how cool it would have been to do what we had planned.

Because what we had planned was a series of shows. Yeah. Both, some of them scripted, some of them unscripted. Just random shit that we wanted to make. And they said, oh, this would work really great as a podcast segment. And we went, oh, well, I don't, I don't know that that's a good idea.

And then we would keep going like, I don't think that's gonna work. I don't think that's how the market works. And they went, trust me, I know how the market works. I made Red versus Blue. Yeah. I bet you're gonna say, I don't listen to podcasts. Both true.

Both true. Both true. Smash Cut 2 three weeks ago. You bought for one and bought it with the Blu-ray. I know how to run a bit out of business. Well, that's the end of me. Yeah, so I don't know. Yeah, the pitch was like, cause so a lot of the things that you saw us do on this show, like the bottoms up or like it's a choice and stuff like that,

I feel like, you know, they started out as their, well, you know, that came from STF, but like I feel like a lot of the segments that you saw, a lot of bits that you saw on this show were part of bigger, I'll say better, ideas that would have existed as their own sort of like. Little thing. Little thing with underneath kind of the RTP banner. Yeah.

But. How was this news was a show that you, myself, Griff and Brian Gahr and Christian Young, we were all working on. And that just got lost in weird development hell. And so we took it back and said, we're gonna make it a podcast segment. Yeah, and it was really fun.

And it was like, it was not what it was intended to be, if that makes sense, like it never. How was this news supposed to be like a 25 to 33 minute standalone? Yeah, it was like was like it was like a It was a it was wait wait don't tell me without a liberal arts degree. Yeah. Yeah, it was scumbag NPR It was yeah, it was wait wait. Don't tell me that like, you know Nevermind that wait wait. Don't tell me what you think you better than me. Yeah

Yeah, wait wait don't tell me cuz you think you're better than me? Yeah, what you think you're better than me? Um... Yeah, wait, wait, don't tell me, because I don't want to fucking hear it! Had enough! Yeah, it was, yeah, NPR, but with like, yeah, a backpack, not a tote bag. You know what I mean? Like, it had like... NPR with fanny pack, but not the cool kind. The leather kind.

But the cool kind, not the one that they sell. We can say just a bag with drugs in it. That's it. That's what we're getting at. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're getting a bag with drugs in it. It's NPR with a lot more mushrooms in it. Yeah.

But so that's, yeah, How Is This News was going to be that. And man, yeah, there's a few things we can just reminisce about the projects that never went through the pipeline. That was one of them. That was a really cool show. The thing about that though is, and this is the problem that, you know, toward the end in the last couple years,

I think, not just us, this is not exclusive to us, literally the whole company and everybody working here ran into, it's just like, it takes so much to make a show. Like, and I'm not just saying like money, but like time. And for a place like this, time is money. People are like a lot of contract employees. We work for us. So editors have to be hired, and other support staff

has to be hired, and that kind of stuff adds up. So to do a show like How Is This News on the cheap requires like, because for say Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, there's a How is This News on the cheap requires like, cause like, for like, say wait, wait, don't tell me, there's a staff of people working on that, writers, contributing writers, researchers, they have assistant. There's like a whole like newspaper,

news network funding it. Yeah, exactly. There's a whole, there's all mechanism involved in order to make this very kind of pleasant, ostensibly easy to, easy to make, ostensibly deceptively easy to make show, because there's so many things going on behind the scenes. And so that, you know, I think so many great ideas,

not just from this show, but from like other departments, you know, other brands, can't even like attempt to reach escape velocity, because it's like, oh yeah, you can totally do that. If you and the three other people on this show want to work 20 hours a day, like. And sometimes you do just worth it. Yeah, cause your time is, yeah, my time is not,

my time means nothing to me unless I'm spending it making something. Right, yeah. Also, I don't know, one of the other things that makes everything really complicated, I wanna be clear, I'm't know, one of the other things that makes everything really complicated, I want to be clear. I'm going to say something and I need you to know that I'm not super like, just hear me out is I guess what I'm saying.

Okay. Because we work for a business, the business's bottom line is its bottom line. It needs to make money, it needs to be profitable. It's hard for a business to justify taking risks. Understand that we work for an entertainment company, and so obviously as entertainers and as artists, we, in our brains,

it's always the most worth it for us to make the best thing. Like, obviously, that's what we always wanna make. We wanna take big swings, do big shit. I don't give a fuck about a budget. You give me a small budget, big budget, as long as you give me full creative control, we'll make it happen. Yeah.

But it's hard, especially, to argue that to people whose entire purpose is to keep the lights on and keep everything in business and keep people employed for as long as possible because that's obviously what a business wants to do. One of the things that sucked a lot was watching people have great ideas that they're super excited about and just not get to make them

because they are too big of a risk. And you saw it with stuff like, you know, good morning, good news, I almost said good morning from Ratman. Good news, Ratman, or like- Good morning from hell. Well, good morning from hell- Is that what you were thinking about?

No, no, no, I was thinking of good news, Ratman. Because that was a show that Gus was super excited about that you were writing for and Elise was writing for, and like, everyone was super stoked on it you were writing for and Elise was writing for and like Everyone was super stoked on it And then they were basically told like well the only way to make this work is if you get these like Insane metrics that no show would be able to hit That's bad for the first episode

It's like yeah, you need to have your first episode needs to have 20,000 downloads. It's like are you insane like Unless you are Jeff like you don't get, like, you know, us folks don't get those numbers. That's crazy. And so yeah, it was just, you were just, just so many things just suffocated in the crib. Yeah. Because there's just like,

that was just an impossible metric and hurdle to get up for like, see, because again, I said this at the beginning, like, weirdly a lot of views, downloads, listens plus question mark does not equal enough money to lit to a company. Like the overhead, the lights, this building, like that's not, it's enough for individual creators sometimes.

We've also been talking with people about like advertising shit, because advertising shit gets weird and people don't understand it. And there's a part of advertising where like, I mean, you're probably very familiar with it, but selling ad reads on podcasts and stuff does not necessarily mean that you get all of that money

because sometimes they don't have the budget for it. So they'll say, we're buying at 11K. So like, I'm buying 11K of your downloads, which means that I only get paid for those 11,000 downloads out of you know Yeah, so like it also an insane thing. Yeah, I hate it so much because then it's like okay cool I'm glad I'm spending 25 seconds or whatever doing this thing that I only get paid for like 10% of what I'm Whatever of course yeah doesn't matter the point of what I'm saying is that yeah, I Of course. It doesn't matter.

The point of what I'm saying is that, yeah, I'm so excited to see what everyone does here next because of the fact that so many people have such great ideas. I talked with Trevor recently about the stuff that he's thinking about doing. It's actually been really interesting here the last couple of days,

because you'll hear people talk with stuff. When we were doing the live stream a while ago, on the 21st birthday live stream, I talked with Blaine and Chris and they were like, yeah, we've been talking to some of our film friends because they've been making features and stuff. And I'm thinking, maybe it's time for us to make a feature. Maybe that's a way to get into it and I'm like yeah buddy that's

the way to make money in the future a feature film everyone's always made profit on the surest the surest bet in the industry yeah but also like I don't care about money and I think that me I want to see whatever movie those two cook up. Cause it would be awesome. I do too. Lane pitched me a movie he wants to make and I get mad sometimes because I can't watch it. Does that make sense? Yeah. Oh yeah. I'll just remember what he pitched me as a memory and I'm like, I should go watch that.

Oh, I can't. It's not made yet. I'm gonna fucking kill him. Like. That is the mark of such a great idea and one that I've basically like, okay, so many times working here, somebody working here will pitch me an idea

that I'm like, holy shit, I really wanna watch that show. Like, I wanna watch that so bad. That is the mark of a good show is when you're like, fuck, I don't wanna make it, I just wanna watch it. Why isn't this done already? Why is it somebody else made it already? Yeah, it's tough. And you know, like, I mean, that's again,

I think that's not just And you know, like, I mean, that's, again, a thing that's not just, like, exclusive to this company, but I feel like, you know, it's kind of like entertainment industry at large, is like, most things and most good things do not get made. The amount of amazing scripts, awesome ideas, fantastic things that don't even get to pilot is a pile that could reach the fucking moon.

Yeah, Tarantino has a Star Trek script. That's crazy. You guys know that, right? Tarantino was like, I want to make a Star Trek movie. I have a script for it and everything. And they're never going to let him make that. Why would they? No, not in a million years.

But I want it. But I wanna see it. I wanna see Spock drop the N word so many times. I wanna see that movie. Hand me my phaser. Which one? The one that says bad motherfucker. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh Yeah, William Shatner is gonna get bitch slapped for sure oh Folks Yeah, it's good. I'm sad. I'm not gonna be able to make those make those kind of stupid dumbass jokes anymore in this Well, well get the to make them in person. You just won't get them. I'll call Mondo at three in the morning in a cold sweat and think of with some clever joke from hours later.

Yeah, but everyone's gonna be like, that's the thing, right? Everyone's working on stuff. Everyone's making stuff. And I'm sure come May 10th, you'll hear a lot of things coming out. I'd say the 12th, but. Maybe the 12th.

Maybe, I don't know. Not to be one of those watch this space people, but. Not to be one of those SoundCloud boyfriends, but big things coming up. Oh. Ha ha ha ha. Yeah, so yeah, not in this context will we be able to make super jokes again.

But sorry to go back to the ideas, like the cool ideas and stuff that came out of this place. That is like maybe one of the, that is the sadness, but because it was so great part of like, Roosty Teeth ending, is that like, just like walking through these halls, you could bump into almost anyone with like a good idea. And like, that's like incredibly rarefied air.

And that's like a really, I think that's like a really, you know, amazing and special thing. God. And the other day, sorry, I didn't mean to- Oh no, it's good, really amazing and special thing. And the other day, sorry, I didn't mean to. Oh no, it's good, go ahead. I just, the other day Neil pitched me one of the funniest sketches I'd ever heard. This was during the Super Bowl,

where basically Artie, our mascot, wanted to start his own version of the puppy bowl. And so he started the rooster bowl, which was basically a halftime show where they took a bunch of roosters and put them into a ring together. And then they just did what they were gonna do. And it was the rooster teeth made a cock fighting ring.

We backdoored into, that's amazing. It was such a funny sketch and I was just like that fucking rocks dude. That's awesome. I love that so much. Yeah, there's so many people here that have just like fucking incredible ideas. Oh man. So we played on the, on yesterday, yesterday was the live stream.

This is coming out later. Yesterday was the live stream for the 21st anniversary and we played bottoms up and one of the cards, one of the cards questions that I had contemplated writing was what was a project that you, what's an idea or a project that you have that you didn't bring to Rooster Teeth because you knew they would fuck it up?

Now here's the bad part is that once you say it, it is technically the IP property of- That's why I cut the question because you couldn't answer that honestly. You couldn't answer that honestly without a clue. Because like, and you know, again, this company offered, I think everyone here, some incredible opportunities,

and to have like a full-time, salaried, benefited position in the entertainment industry is almost unheard of. Almost unheard of, and now we know why, because it's not heard of anymore. The... I should say that we are very appreciative of Rooster Teeth and everything that they've given us.

100%, that's not, yeah, this is not a dig on that. It is a, it is more of an indictment of the industry, and of a thing which again, at the bottom line, has to make money. Make money, always. And... Even if it's just meant to, you know, be a fun little goof-a-muff time. And, like, the thing, okay. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. And like, the thing, okay. Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm. How honest can I be? As honest as you want, we can always cut it out. We can always cut it out.

Okay, so. Look at Tyler's eyebrows to see where we're at. I'm looking at your eyebrows. Okay, I'm just gonna say this, we can cut it out later, but several people have heard, several people have heard me say this over the years, probably the last three years. And the joke was always, when they write the epitaph

on the tombstone of Rooster Teeth, it will say this, and I've always thought this, resources mismanaged. Loving father, comma, will be missed. Will be missed. I think that that's probably, you know, I'll just air my grievances right here. That is my biggest regret is that, or my biggest regret, that was the worst thing to see,

is like, see awesome ideas never come to fruition because resources were catastrophically mismanaged. I mean, yeah. And I don't think that's telling tales out of school either. I think like, you go to everyone, to a person at this company and be like, do you think the right stuff is being put at the right places?

And to a person, I think everyone would say that. There was a time where there were so many Topo Chico's being consumed on the campus that I do believe it took a year off of this company's life. We were probably going through like 60 cases a week. I think at one point they said it was something like 20 cases, like 20 to 40 cases a month. That makes sense.

Cause I could fucking slam seven Topo Chico's in a day. It gets so hot and people just grab them. Oh yeah, people like quad fist them, like grab two bottles in a hand and like walk back to their office. I'm sure they're good as fuck. Yeah, yeah, here's the saddest part of all of it, right, is that like anytime you have a company,

the way to stay in control is to be the leanest company you can possibly be. No, it's true. Yeah, there was also a time where I feel like, not just this industry, but all industries were really trying to be Google. You know what I mean? With like the cool campus that you're like,

you work at. We used to get lunch. We got free lunch on Mondays. Yeah. That feels like a life, it feels like a different company. It was a pandemic. Well, yeah. It was full scrape. Yeah, I can't

I'm going back in time Some fucking real real zero interest rate behavior. Oh, that's a real angel VC fun Yeah, it's funny money man. It's absolutely funny money. It's one of the craziest things is cuz well mmm It's funny money, man. It's absolute funny money. It's one of the craziest things is because, well, mm. There's so many Razor scooters. The reason that Google had a campus like that was so that their employees wouldn't feel bad for being there all the time. 22 hours in a single day.

OK. Can I tell you one of my favorite moments working here ever? And I think you all know what it is. Well, you three, or us three. Sure. There was a period of time where we thought we would be getting an insane budget

to make a scripted narrative show. And there was a moment where our job was to put together a bunch of pitches for these shows. And it was at the peak of us spending thousands of dollars on consultants. And so Andrew wrote a script for a show called Consultants about a group of business people who couldn't hack it in the business industry.

So they became consultants and scammed people out of money. And I remember you pitched it and me, you and Drew were just fucking like, oh, we're gonna get in so much trouble for this. And I remember the executive team being like, that's really good. This is a good idea. That's a really, really strong idea. Let's put that in the green light pile.

And it was just like, what the fuck is going on? They're like consultants so much, they approved a show about it. They approved a show about what a grift it is. God damn it. We should just be consultants. Should we be consultants? We should be consultants.

It's the best job in the world. You get to come into a company with obvious problems, Drift it is. God damn it. We should just be consultants. Should we be consultants? We should be consultants. It's the best job in the world. You get to come into a company with obvious problems, tell them about those obvious problems back to them for thousands of dollars, and then you, I mean, sometimes millions, and then you leave. And if the company fails, you still get to keep the money. Of course, the money's, the check cleared. It's the greatest grift of all the time.

It's one of those things where like, I feel, well, okay. As a standup comedian, I've seen a lot of terrible standup comedians teach standup classes. And then when I saw what consultants were, I was like, this is just standup class. That's all that is. You're not good at what you did.

Otherwise you'd have a business. Why is your business telling businesses how to business? I think we could do it. I mean. It's the, it's literally like the, you know when you're on like Instagram and you're just going through reels and you get one that's just like some,

I don't know, a man talking to a fucking camera and and then you click on it is like go to my bio go to the bio you buy a course to Tell you what you already know yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just like the influencer version. Oh Yeah, it's all since civics is it wait This feels like this feels like a deeperants have existed since the time of cavemen. Before there was men that would go out there with club and hit tiger and bring back for family, but there was other cavemen go,

tiger not enough, need fulfillment. And then there was another person who go listen, for about 15% of that tiger, I could tell you that tiger has stripes. And people would go, well that makes a lot of sense. Then a boardroom of people, we should give him 15% of this tiger. A cave room full of people.

A cave room? God damn it. Then there cave room? A cave room full of people. There's just one guy in a cave who pays you $25 every time you tell people that he sells tigers. Oh shit. Did you guys hear that we hired Chuga? He worked with that other cave that invented fire. That shit

was insane. That shit was fire. That shit was fire. Fuck. Oh my god. All of it. No, all of it. Cut the whole thing. The whole thing. Yeah.

Nah, keep it in. Nah, keep it in. Keep it in. This one's for daddy. What are they gonna do, chew gas? That's very good. Yeah, sorry. I'm still mad about it. I'm like re-mad about it.

I had forgotten about all the consultancy bullshit that went around. And it was just like... At a time when it was like, you know, we need audience. We need like new audience. We're looking for like, you know, different... Oh, God. And also the business talk just like chills me to the fucking bone. There's nothing worse. I, on the other and also the business talk just like chills me to the fucking bone There's nothing worse on the other hand like business. I like I like

Revenue stream revenue stream. Yeah, I got your revenue stream right here. I will say the phrase KPI does make me murderous Yeah top of funnel makes me want to die KPI stands for kill people intensely and Yeah API stands for kill people intensely. And yeah. Oh, the top of funnel, here's the problem. And I've said this. I'm just, this is my rant session. I'm usually like, so I feel like all the time in this podcast, I'm pretty subdued.

But I'm just like very keyed up right now. OK, another thing that like I really, really hate that has happened. What's going on now? Nothing, keep going. Something that I hate about like this industry and the fact that we're all called content creators is like the worst thing on earth. The term content, the term content is a marketing term that infiltrated the world of artists, and it is one of the worst things to come about in my entire life.

And in the entire life we're gonna cut. You're not a content creator. You're not a content creator. You are an editor, you're a writer, you're a director, you're a comedian, you're a graphic artist. Like, these are discrete talents and skills that you have that have been flattened into the term content creator

to pay us all less. That is exactly why that thing was invented. And fewer of us. And fewer of us. Less? And turn it into a, yeah, I don't know. Into a slurry. But that's how you get a slurry.

A slurry, not a slur. No, no, no, we heard you. We heard you. Turn it into a slur. It was just funny. It was funny. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My favorite thing about content creator, the term is, is that it's such not an actual job that like, OK, to specify, I think that people who create content, it is a job. All right? People who make podcasts, people who do the stuff that we're doing, that is a job. All right, people who make podcasts,

people who do the stuff that we're doing, that is a job. I hate, agree with you, I agree with you. The term content creation is so stupid. And my favorite part of it was trying to explain to my father what content creation was. A man who worked as a mechanic for years and now works as a lawn mower? I think.

And not mowing lawns, he is a mower. They hold his feet up and he goes, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. You ever see, it's like a dinosaur in Flintstones. The way they would turn them into like machines. And his gas tank is filled with Bud Light. It's a living. And so, yeah, I tried to explain to my father what I do.

And I was like, well, yeah, I do like, I work for a content creation company. He was like, what does that mean? And I was like, well, we make stuff. And he was like, everything makes stuff, dumbass. Like, yeah, you could work for a company and they make cars. That's not content. And I was like, OK, yeah, but if I took a camera

and made a video about the car, that's content. And he just went, why would anyone pay you for that? And that's when I went, oh shit, I gotta get into a new industry. Yeah. Fuck, oh no, I'm ruined. When someone held the cold mirror of simple facts up to you, you're like, oh yeah.

Well, since this is the final episode of the show, I thought it would be really good to ask each of you about your favorite moment working here or your favorite moment from a show or something that we worked on. And I know that as a blanket statement, the three of us, our favorite moments were probably working on this show.

Like, obviously one of the most fun I've ever had was when we made, when we made poop shoes. Poop shoes was one of, I don't even think it was our funniest sketch, but it was definitely like the funnest to shoot. I remember every take, everyone just breaking fully. So like, yeah, you can, you can choose. I remember every take, everyone just breaking fully.

So like, yeah, you can, you can choose. There's so many lines of it, those, my favorite moment is that one of the improvised lines came from Barbara, she goes, I hope you walk into traffic and fucking die. Yeah, because we were doing it, you were like, can you do one disgusted? Okay, can you do one disgusted? Okay, can you do one like, like, like shocked and horrified? Okay, now let's do like a mean one.

And she just like... Because I hope you walk into traffic and fucking die. And I think I still have the clip, because like I'm outside of the room, and you can hear me lose it. I, uh, yeah, so there's so many great memories and you are more than welcome to pick one from that, but my favorite thing that I've ever done while working here, and it's the closest I ever got to making that show,

Scam Likely, that I've wanted to make for forever, but we were filming a show called Trucked Up with Drew Saplin as the director. That was my first time ever working with Drew. And I was, I had a bit in my mind where we were supposed to be making orange chicken. And I am bad at making chicken. Several times I've given myself food poisoning

from not cooking the chicken enough. And so what I decided to do was leave and go to a Panda Express and buy Panda Express and bring it back and try to pass it off as my own. My favorite part of this was that most people did not know what I was doing. And the adventure of me going there, a little bit of it is scripted in that like we couldn't hire an Uber driver and then just have like a camera in the uber so we had like a production assistant take me over there but yeah that was one of

my favorite moments and then getting to work as a story producer and like put that together was just like that was the first time I ever felt like I was doing something crazy and fucking with the rules ever felt like I was doing something crazy and cool and fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, fucking with the rules. It felt like I was on Taskmaster. Like, it just was fun. And so, that show was one of the most fun I've ever had working here. That's one of my favorite memories. What is yours? Yeah, I'm like, you know, because I've been here for a little bit longer.

You know, I came on around, like, the Lazer team two times, and we, like, were also making, like, you know, had designs on making TV shows here, like sitcoms and stuff. So I was writing on that, and then I became head writer for RT Core. So it is kind of crazy. Like, we made a sketch, like like a pretty well-produced sketch

every week in Core. They looked really, really good. And that was a lot of fun, because that was being in production and doing writing sketches and producing sketches, which I've done for years. And that was a lot of fun. But I think, and I'm kind of reiterating,

a single favorite moment, I think, and I'm kind of reiterating, like a single favorite moment, I think, was probably... I'm gonna be honest, this is gonna sound so, this is gonna sound so tame, it's not even on a production. I think being just in our office and thinking of these ideas, like around a table, and like having our like little writers' rooms and stuff like that, I can't even pick one. But I know on many occasions, like, head and hands weeping

at the funniest thing I can possibly think of. Like, too many times in that room, just beside ourself with laughter. And I think, like, I can't even choose, like, odd time. And I can't even remember the jokes. I just remember being inconsolably happy and like crying to tears in our writers room this was our writers room yeah okay cool yeah I didn't for a second I thought you meant our T Corz writers room I swear to God I

was looking at a slack for five seconds and I missed something Some other writers like you know my favorite part of a relationship was when I had sex with another lady No, yeah, that was I remember us laughing at James Bond saying well, I can't remember what it was. It was like, no time to come. Ba-da-da, ba-da-da, ba-da-da. I don't even remember the context for the joke. Oh yeah, Shaken, not stirred. As I'm, for audio listeners, I'm jerking myself off and saying not stirred, like I'm fingering my. Beagle. My male G-spot,

which stands for gangster spot. So yeah, there was so many moments in there that like I can't, we, also the worst part was we would hit on something that was so funny and we would go, well, we're never gonna remember how to get there naturally. This joke is done, stop fucking talking. We'll talk about it on the podcast.

Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, that was a heavy feature of just like, stop everything. Save it. Put that away. We need to talk about it on the show. And just hanging out at the food truck and being like, no, no, no, no, no, save it, save it.

Save it, save it, save it, save it, save it. Which is like, you know, I mean, the great part about doing the show and friendship, slash friendship, save it, save it. Which is like, you know, I mean the great part about doing the show and friendship slash friendship, ex-friendship, not ex-friendship, I mean feature, is that like we could have like normal, fun hangout conversations and also be like, save that, let's talk about it on the show,

like put it in like a notes app and then just like, all right, let's talk about it on the show. Like put it in like a notes app and then just like, all right, and then we just like roll right into another thing. I just like, that was incredibly, incredibly cool. Somebody, I still get, I don't, I'm not on Twitter anymore, but occasionally I still get, like, I don't go on the app anymore, but occasionally I get get noti- Like, I don't go on the app anymore, but occasionally I get notifications. And someone commented yesterday

that our chemistry is insane. And you know what? I have to agree. It's because we make out before every episode. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. It's hard to- Yeah, just do it three times.

Oh yeah, it's also difficult. Because I have to, yeah. Because I have to lower my body down and Griff has to get on a step stool which I bend down for For if it was your favorite favorite moment or moments, oh Does it have like specifically this team? No, no, no, no, no so many teams just with rooster teeth in general I feel like with you guys, again, it's every frame of portrait, every day a dream

working with you guys. It's hard to choose. You say every day a drink? A dream? OK. Well. Well, it depends on what your dream is. And then, of course, there's like, you know,

I spent so much time with STF. We did the TikTok. We did so much D&D stuff. I got to do my first piece of original content with them. I got into streaming with them. So like that was all very pivotal. But I think the most like impactful moment I've ever had working at this company

was my first RTX here. Cause I was on the sales team and we, you know, sold all the activations on the floor and I would have to go and like take pictures of people having fun at the Mortal Kombat, Xbox booth or whatever, or like watch the doom fight on the main stage. But just like going around RTX that year and taking the pictures and seeing that you can do marketing that makes people happy. Yeah.

And seeing people like go to a thing and be like, well I got to play I got to play in Justice with Barbara Dunkelman who I've been a fan of since I was a little kid and I'm just like, oh I use capitalism to do that. To like actually make someone happy and bring them joy and that I think that's my favorite memories I've had since I've been here. I will say that every time we got to do RTX was the wildest experience of my life. Mostly because one, every person who knows who you are is together in one city.

And so sometimes you'll just be walking down the street and somebody will be like, that's Armando Torres. And it's like, wow, that feels cool. Normally it's only the cops doing that. and it's like, wow, that feels cool. Normally it's only the cops doing that. No, the idea that like people are so excited to just get to meet you and like, I don't know. I remember every single time I went to RTX

the first couple of times, cause I only got to go to like three of them, two or three of them, I think. Every time I went to one, first couple of times because I only got to go to like three of them, two or three of them, I think. Every time I went to one, somebody would be like, thanks for like taking the time. And it's like, what are you talking about? Thanks, you're the reason I get to do anything. I'm in this room right now.

I don't get to do anything without you. And I don't know. The fans are so so just, man, damn, I didn't think I was gonna get emotional. We don't get to do any of this without you, and you guys are really great. And you just, you guys are super sick. I don't have, I wish I had better words to say it.

It's just like, the like, I don't know, the fact that like, you know, we make these goofy, stupid things and we keep, we've said it a million times. We make this stuff just for us. I don't care what anyone else thinks of it. I just want to make it for me to make good stuff and I don't care what anyone thinks. And then somebody comes up to me and goes, I loved it.

I loved every part of it. And that thing that you made resonated with me so much. And I loved watching it. And I love watching you hang out with your friends and have your dumb little conversations. Because I agree with your conversations. And it's great. And that is just a beautiful, stupid little thing.

No, I think that's, you know, not to get too heavy. You do get too heavy, I will punish you. Okay. Or to like, you know, psychoanalyze it too much. But like, I think, you know, one of the great things about working here and working with some of the creative people here is that, like, you know, I think it's like, again, artists, ugh.

I think anyone who wants to make anything, and again, who like, just the fact that we turned this like just for daddy, things that we wanted to make just for you, because like, it was a compulsion to see something brought into the world, to express yourself, is putting a piece of you out into the universe. Like it's externalizing this thing.

It's making something that like you put a piece of yourself into and a part of like your personality and your point of view and your perspective into it. And because I think at least for myself as a creative, I have to do that. I don't know how to do anything else. That's just something I'll do for the rest of my days. No matter if it's at a company or painting alone at my house.

Something will always be being made. And so when fans say, not just like like something, but like there are like obsessive Rooster Teeth and fans just ravenous fans of Rooster Teeth. When people, when you have fans, or people who are fans and support your work, they can love you, but then they get to love this thing that's also a part of you,

that's an extension of your point of view, and maybe even distillizes your point of view into a more concrete thing. And while they can't know like you as like, maybe not know you intimately as a person and be like your friend and sit down with you, in a way they get to know this, a more, the more inner life of Armada de Torres,

cause they get to see the show that you wrote. And I think that's one of the best things about the human experience and about being creative. Ah! Sorry. That was your punishment for being too sweet. Anyway. Anyway. Yeah, listen dorks, you've been along with us

for the ride thus far and man, it's been good. And now it's come to a big old end and... I do wanna do something before the show ends actually. Can we get everybody who's worked on the show out here? Yeah, please. Like anybody who can come over here, be over here with us. Yeah, get on over here. Get on, come on in.

Come on, yeah, leave it on the widefisher. Get out here. Yeah. Oh, come on, get in here. Look at this team. So this is a good audio content. If you're listening at home, what you're seeing is the Last Supper. Cameron is Jesus. I'm Judas.

I'm Judas. All right. Get in your braille. Yeah. Yeah. This is everyone who's worked on the show. I mean, obviously there's more people who want to be here. There's more people who want to be here today.

Yeah. But this is just an incredible crew full of people that helped us make this stupid dumb thing. And I love it so much. And right off camera, there's a man with a gun and we're about to be shot. So, oh, fuck, fuck! All right, I think for one last time,

we've been the Rooster Teeth podcast. So. We love you. Bye. We'll see you later. See you next week. Okay. Oh. You guys got laid off too?

Yeah.