Rooster Teeth Podcast - The Most Horrific Convention Stories - #660

Episode Date: August 3, 2021

Join Gus Sorola, Barbara Dunkelman, Gavin Free, Andrew Rosas, and Drew Saplin as they discuss horrible convention memories, the greatness of the Simpsons, get real deep about how big the universe is, and more on this week's RT Podcast. Find more from The Most here: https://twitter.com/TheMostCast  This episode was recorded August 2, 2021 and is sponsored by MeUndies (http://meundies.com/roosterteeth), Purple Matress (http://purple.com/rooster10 and use promo code rooster10), and Manly Bands (http://manlybands.com/rooster). RTTV is sponsored by ExpressVPN (http://expressvpn.com/rttv). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hello everyone welcome to the RST Podcast, I'm Gus.com slash RTTV. Hello everyone, welcome to the Steve Podcast. I'm Gus. Oh, I'm Gavin. I'm Andrew. I'm Drew. And I'm Barbara. And Gus, got an extra person. I like the double shot on you guys.

It puts you in such a duo, yeah. We can't afford six cameras. That's right. We already have a ridiculous number of cameras. We can't add, there's no space for another one. We're already have one more. You know what I was thinking about the other day? How, when we used to do the RT podcast back in the day

on the old set, we used to have one camera for both me and Gavin on this couch. And so I remember thinking, I was like, it's great, I get to be on camera even when I'm not talking. And so like, I didn't have to talk as much on the podcast because I could just wait for Gavin to be on camera. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm be on camera. That's what if you do. When we, what would you do if you had the freedom to be anyone or to go anywhere without limitations?

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what's the cheapest video camera you all sell that has HDMI out? And they were like, oh, we got these little Sony handicaps. I was like, great. I'll take four of those. They were shit. They were shit. They were terrible. Garbage. Wait. When you go, hey, give me your finest cheapest camera. I think my two requirements were, is it cheap and can I remove the HUD on the HDMI out? So you don't see like the battery level.

Oh, right. Yeah. Exactly. I was like, great. Perfect. $220. Awesome. and can I remove the HUD on the HDMI out? So you don't see the battery level and all that shit. Exactly. That was like, great, perfect. $220? Awesome. Sold. Let's get those. It records on a medium that doesn't exist anymore.

It records on mini-disc or some shit. Beta max. I don't remember what it was. That makes me mad. Why? That is just why you like us. What shit? We used the damn things for you.

I was being actively told not to make a broadcast department. I was being told not to spend money and not to waste time doing this. Look at that. I was told, I'm going to do a snap. Look at that. So I was like, I had to spend as little money as possible to keep the anger at me as low as possible so that I could build the studio. Hey, I mean, we're here doing the podcast now.

So you must have made a good decision. We're a million years later. I can't believe HDMI has been around that long. Yeah, seriously. The pre-cambrion, HDMI core. Just like, to the salesperson, just like, okay, I need some cameras that are going to keep me below the radar. You know what I mean?

I need something that's not going to raise any eyebrows when someone looks at a credit card statement. How many question marks are they going to write when they say say how much? Shit. Ooh. But yeah, it was a, God, what a fucking different time.

I was building sucks too. Freezing or is boiling? No, no AC, no heater. So you guys were just like, it was that bathroom. It was that bathroom over here. So you guys were on shitty cameras, just glossy or freezing to death every time.

So you looked gross. What we did when it was winter, we would hide space heaters on the set. So like you see this table here but space heaters aren't quiet like just it was actually fairly quiet but we would like just yeah we would replace like the side tables with space heaters and they just put like a blanket over them which I'm sure it's not safe. That's safe. That seems up to Oshiko. Also the first couple podcasts we did in that studio I don't know if we were still sorting out the mic situation,

but we had like, lava leers one time. And they were just- First couple of hundred in there. We were through a lot of it, or so. I was really hoping you guys were gonna say you shared a mic and just like had to pass it around. Yeah, that's why we and Gamer are in the same shot. You remember, there was also an element of danger

when we first started, because we wanted to hang lights on the rafters above the set, but we weren't sure if they could support the weight. So we put a C clamp up there with a wrench right above us on the set and we're like if the wrench ever falls we know we can't put lights up there. Oh damn. So whenever we do the podcast every now and then in those old episodes if you ever see me looking up it's because I think I hear the wrench fall.

Like looking to see if it's going to fall on this. This is the most jerry rigged operation known to make all of you are just essentially just like hobos singing over a barrel fire and doing the broadcast. It's like, ah, God. Keep us warm. And wasn't that, I never went over to that. I came along long after you guys were out of there

out of the old studio. You thought we were guys to drink? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we were the new space only. New space only. But wasn't that, I mean, wasn't that place like a, I mean, essentially a garage like wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a hanger bay, but like in not in any way insulated or like different to this hanger bay. This one at

least has heating and elegant and cool like and stuff. Yeah. There's insulation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but that one was for like, pull your big rig in here and get it's like, oh, like it was like a big, one of those big hanger doors, like bigger trucks. Yeah, and every now and then we would have like deliveries

that get dropped off or like to load stuff up and be like, where's your loading dock? Like, yeah, we don't have one. We just have to lift everything up into your trailer. Oh. Was there something really big? We, oh, the podcast. It was the podcast. The podcast set.

When we were getting it right from a convention or something, it had been delivered back to the studio and we had to like put it back together at the studio. Jesus. His idea was it to send the podcast set to conventions so that really, behind that no set to shoot on. His Gus. It was really.

Empty Garage. Because I was also doing events at the time. And I wanted to have a cool looking booth. And I wanted to try to like tie the experience together. Where if you saw us in person, I mean, it was the same thing that you saw. I hate it. It's great. You saw it right.

It's like if we bought two of them. Yeah, just guess. It would have been great, except it was so, again, it was so expensive. Yeah. I couldn't afford to sit in one place. You used to know how many times we used it for a convention?

Tell me. Twice. I think it was three. I think we used it three times. It would be very good. It ended up being a huge pain. So yeah, it just stayed at the studio. Lessons learned.

Because it wasn't easy. Well, I never, I never did it. But it looked like everyone was struggling all the time to take that thing apart. I feel like I didn't have any trouble with it, but it's because I had done it so many times. Hey, Gavin, can you give us a head with it? Just like smoke out of Gavin.

Swinging doce to a loondore and it's like, well, did you help with it at a VidCon? With Jordan's swears? I can't, that's not true. That's a lie. There's no way that I've never seen Gavin or Jordan. It was definitely, Jordan was the only one he did with the big, anything.

You sure? That was what I did. But my first shit was I would fly ahead of these guys to Coventures. It was definitely Jordan. Jordan won the first thing. It was the only thing. You sure? That was what I did. But my first shit was I would fly ahead of these guys to prevent this climb through various unloading dogs and build Boots and then get out of the. I did that for the. Well, he's not lying.

20 times. Yeah. What year would you say you stopped lifting things on behalf of Ristarty? Oh. Well, yeah. Last decade at some point. Yeah, yeah.

Yemi and Gavin used to like volunteer for the Richard Heath booth and like sell merch. Yeah, damn, yeah, for them. And VidCon was probably one of the last ones I did. Yeah, that one, 2012 maybe. That might be the last time we shipped the booth out somewhere. And I know why, because y'all did not know how to repack everything.

So they shoved shirts into the cabinets and stuff like that until all these little spaces that the booth had. This is not the same set. Damn it. But... Looking for all the shirts. A vintage shirt, just like piggy up. Do you not remember that?

No. Oh, maybe you weren't there for when they closed, but yeah, Jordan was saying how we just shoved things in. He didn't know where to put anything. I think I only set up because I had, that was when like slow mo event stuff was getting a lot bigger. So I probably just set it up and then pissed off to do my stuff. It's very possible.

You never know, you never know when there's gonna be the last day you'll be schlepping on behalf of the company. Right? And just like, like it's one, I mean, you start off and you're building stuff, breaking stuff down, carrying a bunch of stuff, and then one day, it's like, oh no, there's other people here. There's other people here and there's like a cable people who know what they're doing

with this stuff. And useful bones and joints that aren't that- Somebody brought a dolly. Some enterprising genius brought like caveman like technology of the dolly and it made our whole lives a whole lot easier. We were so stupid about that stuff early on. I remember the first time we went to San Diego Comic Con. I want to say it was in 2004, because I think, like,

back then, San Diego Comic Con didn't take up the whole convention center yet. So, like, I think I want to say it was in 2004 where they finally got Hull H and they were like, all right, now we have room for a few more exhibits, so we were able to sneak in at that time. Yeah. And we were like, oh man, we're gonna sell so much stuff

at San Diego Comic Con. There's like 100,000 people there or whatever. It's like, we need to send a bunch of merchandise, but we don't have, you know, we only have a 10 by 10 booth. We don't know where to store it. I know. Let's rent a storage unit for a month, ship all of our stuff there, and then keep it like a warehouse in San Diego that we can go back and forth to replenish the stock from.

What a fucking nightmare. What a fucking stupid idea. I mean, oh my God, it was unbearably hot. Then you had to deal with the traffic coming in and out of the convention center. It was like, maybe a smart idea for someone who'd never been to the event, but after you spend two seconds at the event,

you're like, this is not gonna work. Like this was a terrible idea. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. What an awful... That stuff is hard work. And this was a terrible idea. Wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. What an awful. That stuff is hard work. I remember one of the worst experiences was it was me, Jack, and Caleb, setting up our booth at Comic Con, San Diego Comic Con.

And we had filled every single shelf to the brim. They had sent so much merch. Everything was just stacked in, squished in there, things sideways and everything like that. And then someone comes by and I'm like, hey, you guys got about six or seven more boxes. Where should we put those? And I was like, surely we don't.

I think it was a waterfall. It was all fucking griff balls. Okay, dude. It was like. And you can't squish those down. No, it was like, we literally had to put them on the floor in the booth and shove them in between things and under the tables and stuff like that.

It was, I think it might have been 500 or 600 Griffballs that had showed up. It's good, God. That's, yeah, those Griffballs were a night. Griffballs and Hoodies, what I hated in booths, because Hoodies were also really salty. It's like, where the fuck are we gonna put these? And Jeff was in charge of merch back then.

You'd always want to sell hoodies like, yeah, we sell these. We make good margin on them. Like, there's no fuck like, I was like, we need to calculate like a dollar per square inch of revenue for items. Yeah, much different in a 10 by 10. Right. We need to prioritize the things that make money and are small. And for some reason, you, a hoodie once folded and put in a box

has the gravity of depleted uranium You put three hoodies in one box and it's like just like a just a industrial drum of oil What's in this surely open it up three And they're all right again Surely open it up three bodies What the fuck and then you take them out of where they go? And they're all like again. Yeah. Oh, fuck terrible. I hate events. Don't be wrong. I like events. I just don't like to set up in terror. That's the bit that I was involved in. That's what I hate in the terror.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, like being at them, fine. Sure. But all the others, I used to travel around, I think I've talked about this before. I used to take so long to pack up a booth. You have to go and get supplies to shrink rep and all of the unused merch so it could go back. And I got so sick of lining up for hours after every event

that I just started traveling and flying with my Carry on being a big roll of shrink with handles on the end So I would just take that you know through the apple is to every event I just put it on the floor and then at the end of every event I would just run around the palette Rappin it and we learned how to do it tight at the bottom work your way up And then eventually it was taken from me at security at one airport because they were like, well, you could tie up the crew with us.

And I was like, oh, I didn't think I will, but okay. And then I'm like, you're just standing there going. You, but I probably said you on 12 flights. Just fine. I remember that one time we were at that event in New Jersey and we didn't have that shrink wrap.

That was the before days here. And we were like, shit, we're gonna need, like the end of the events coming up in a couple days, we're have that shrink wrap. That was the before days here. And we were like, shit. We're gonna need, like the end of the event's coming up in a couple of days, we're gonna need shrink wrap. Someone told us there's a Walmart, about five miles in that direction. And one day we closed up the booth at the end of the day, we're like, let's just walk in that direction.

And maybe we'll find a Walmart. And we just like took off, like the sun went down. We're out there walking through like an empty field and see caucus New Jersey. And we found a Walmart, we're like, oh sweet, we the sun went down. We're out there walking through like an empty field and see caucus New Jersey. And we found a Walmart, like, oh, sweet, got our shrewd crap. They're like walk all the way back to the fucking hotel. Yeah, before we were here. I mean, take all the stress and physicality of moving

and take out all the like sense of accomplishment out of it. Like, they're moving all that. The only thing I look forward to is doing it again. Yeah, exactly. And also, everyone else in the building is also moving. And it's the exact same equipment that you do. It's like trying to get a palette as well, was like, all right, the second the convention center's like,

all right, and the floor is closed, you're like, I need a palette. I need a palette. The pre-event stuff was just as bad, because you would go somewhere to pick up exhibited badges. That person would have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, send it to another person,

then you get sent back and you'd be like, I just spoke to this person back and forth, back and forth. So I just took it upon myself to avoid all that and just walk around the back of all the convention centers and just climb up the unloading docks. Perfect. So you snuck in without any credentials whatsoever. If you just walk with clients or works.

Yeah, it's fine. And I was like, I'm not even from this country. Yeah. I, you know, there's something to that. Like walk like you're put out. Just look like you're being tied up. If you look like you would, I was like, if you look tired and inconvenienced

because everyone is just like, also, I can solve this problem. I just got one. I will say a flashlight at a concert goes a super long way. All you have to do, bring a flashlight to a concert and just do one of these. Turn it on, do one of these,

you get anywhere you wanna go. Just in front of you as you're walking through the crowd, one little, woo, woo, woo, everybody gets out of your parts, the red seas, you go all the way to the front with a flashlight. Oh yeah, and just a little flashlight in any lane here. Any lane here, any lane here. And you just say complete dumbass

on a end here just up the front of your cold-play concept. Freddie Wong talks about how, when he was in college, I guess he went to USC, that he could get anywhere. If you put on a polo shirt and just wrapped an ethernet cable around his shoulder. It's like, you're actually doing it more. Who won't get you anywhere? They need this.

I got to take you, like, oh yeah, come on in. I just want to point out, we're giving people all these tips and we still have our TX next year. We really, I mean, this isn't during the, this is like before the event. Yeah, and by the way, we know all these tricks. So gonna be tri- We already told our people to look for these things.

We were doing research this entire time. We were learning. I just thought about that Simpson joke from a later Simpson's where Homer sneaks into the YouTube concert. He's just like, potato man. Potato man. Potato man. What have you been?

In the letter. Let's get to where he gets beat up to pride. I'm really watching all the Simpsons right now. Yeah. With Trevor, we're on season four. We, although, okay, I lied. We're not rewatching all of Simpsons. We're rewatching all of Simps's between season three and maybe 1819.

The Golden Era. Yeah, you're, you're, you're, say, that's a safe bet. Like, it's my favorite show of all time, but even I skipped the first two seasons. Yeah. Every now and then, I'll watch the first one and it's like, yeah, no, it's still there. It's all right. Yeah. It, the show has an arc to it.

Yeah, but Trevor hasn't seen the sims since he didn't watch it growing up, so we're watching it together. And what a treat. What a treat. You're cracking up. Of course, you're coasting into the finest television ever made.

Like you're coasting into like seasons where it's like 22 episodes, not a bad one in the bunch. There's just like everyone is like, oh, this is a classic. This is like, oh, and that classic after that. It's like, oh, yeah. All right, one treat.

One treat from other people. Stepping back a second. And chat Liz Manian says, put a liner that says complete dumbass in the RT store. Merch idea right there. There we go. Complete dumbass. But it's funny, like going back and watching,

like watching the Simpsons for the first time now because I feel like there's so much, so many pop culture references. And so many things that also came true. Well, yeah. It's like a self-eating snake, or it's like, oh, the Simpsons are making pop culture references, but they're also making references about,

like, it's a complete circle. Yeah, it used to be a show that commented on pop culture, and then it became pop culture. Right. Like, the Simpsons became the culture, it originally was just like referencing and making fun of and stuff like that, but it became so huge and so ubiquitous

that you kind of have very little room to maneuver. And then, man, there was a really like dark period where it was just like, and guests will just get any, we'll just get anyone famous, like who's like the, what's the flavor of the month? They're now on the show. That was like, at a West perhaps. It was just, yeah, at a West, what is great.

A thousand times. Yeah. There's only one cat woman for me, Adam West perhaps. Adam West would be great. A thousand times. There's only one cat woman for me, Julie Numa, or Earth a Kid. And do you remember the dancing? Yeah. To the battoosie. Nice to meet you.

Speckway, Domekaka. Best cameo. That's so great. Speaking's a little great. Mm. I watch, speaking of The Simpsons, I was flipping through Disney Plus the other day and there's like some Simpson short, I guess that they made the words like. That's a couple.

Oh yeah, but the one that I saw in particular was like, they're all Marvel characters. Yeah, they're all like the Avengers. The Avengers and they have like this movie poster and then you know, it's all kind of gross. And then in the background, and one of the shots someone's holding a sign that says, this is what happens with Disney Owens, of Avengers and they have like this movie poster and then you know it's it's all kind of gross and then in the background in one of the shots someone's holding a sign that says this is what happens with Disney owns everything. Yeah now we're talking see that was like one of the best

things about Simpson's being a fox property for the longest time is that they constantly made fun of fox because fox was like kind of a third to fourth rate network for a while, but they like ruled the school. It like that show printed money for them so that they like could make a do whatever they wanted. And also like James L. Brooks, God bless him. Like negotiated the like best deal on earth for that show. And that article that came out a few, I guess last month with that interview with John Swartzwalder,

one of the writers of Simpson's notorious recluse, he talks about that, which is like so interesting. It's like, yeah, James Lerberg's negotiated a contract where like executives had no say over what we made. They didn't get review of cuts, they didn't get to look at anything. We got to make whatever we wanted and turn it in, and they really had no say in it.

And then it just rained money on Fox for 15 years and all because we let the artists do what they want. There's a lesson there. And they know somewhere in there, there's a lesson. But yeah. Also, I'm co-opting the term notorious reckless for just myself all the time. I wanted to send you a Twitter.

I just want to be that. It's a great article. It's a great interview to hear him talk about it. Yeah. I think he talked about, that's where I saw that outtake from the 22 short films about Springfield. I think was it in that interview where he talks about the art,

and it's like there's a scene with crusty and Ralph sitting next to each other on a plane. Yes, yeah, yeah. There's like a little bit of key art for it. And like you can see a scan of like the page of script where it's like this all got cut out from the episode. It's like it's weird. It's like it's something I'm so familiar with

and be like, oh, this is like an alternate version that doesn't exist. It could have. They're the what if. Yeah, the could be man. Great stuff. Be very different. Oh man, I miss the simpsons.

It's a veil. It's still there. It's still there. I feel, I miss the Simpsons. It's a veil. It's still there. I feel like Disney. It's a veil. You want to come watch it with me in Trevor? Come on over. Well, I'm glad.

I mean, I'm glad that they are all watching on Disney+. Yeah. I'm glad that they finally, they didn't have it at launch, but now you have the option to watch it in 4-3. You know, I think I've just come watch it. You could only watch it in 16 by 9. Gross. Which cuts some visual gags.

Right. It cuts significant visual gags. Right. It cuts significant visual gags out. But I, you know, when I've watched it on our competitors, Disney plus, when I've watched it on our, I've watched it on our rival streaming service. It's in, it's in 69. I haven't found a way to make it. Get the good, it's buried at the settings.

Of course it is. Why would they make something necessary for the show easy to access? Why is it a setting? I don't know like it used to be when it was on like the effects after whatever Effects it was an easy toggle where you could switch between 16 9 and 4 3 but now that it's on Disney plus you have to like dig down into the settings to find Where it is? Is it just for Simpsons of everything everything. It's a Simpson-specific setting. Oh. So someone can go to that show and go to Simpsons.

Show ruiner and it takes it into 16. I'm like, who would choose to see it that way? Like, ah. Yeah. Gross. You miss so much. Maybe they will because most people don't know about Fullmas. Maybe they'll worry that people will be like, it's broken. My wide screen's not working. Yeah. So it's the same shit when people used to complain about litter box movies on their YouTube. My mom made us take back Titanic on VHS.

It was like something's wrong with the TV. No, I think it's the tapes. Yep. Oh my God. What a shame. Did you ever edit watching it? Yeah, we'd seen it in the theaters and we're purchasing it on our own.

The two. I don't know why I've been hung up on this. Like, keep bringing it up. The two VHS is required to watch the panic. It's such a weird thing in my head. Like, why did it require two of them? Like, it was so long. Could you not just make us fool, Lincoln?

I don't know. Do you all remember where it cut off? No. I'm pretty sure it was either right before or right after the iceberg hit when they're like on the deck there. I think the ice-black hits it like on the deck there. And it's like I expect it to like 90 minutes since the movie. No, yeah.

There, that is four movies. Like that's four movies worth a movie. Like the iceberg, the like the villain of the movie. I love that they have like the antagonist. The antagonist. Well, no, because it's Billy's saying, I love movies like that where they have to like kind of build in a narrative.

It's like twisters the same way. Where you have to build in a narrative of It's like twisters the same way. Yeah. Where you have to build in a narrative of there being like the evil storm chasers because like nature is, it doesn't have like an agenda. Right. It's humans being dumb with nature and bolts. Exactly.

So it's like, yeah, you have to like build in like a story where it's like, yeah, there's evil storm chasers. And then like Billy Zayn is evil because it's just an iceberg like. I'm slow. I'm just saying. I'm not an alien. just, I was sitting there. Did you see on SNL a couple of weeks ago,

Bowen Yang playing the iceberg at the Titanic? Yes, no, I did. It was a great performance. Super good. I think it was last season that they did that. Yeah, it was last season, like a month or two ago. We come, he's just like, I was there just chilling. The boat hit me.

Yeah. I don't know why I'm the villain. I get all the blame for it. They die by ice. No, they drown. The sea is responsible for that. Not the ice, but it wasn't the Titanic built alongside a different boat that also sank. Yeah, it had like a sister ship.

Yeah, it was like DSS Tempt Fate. That was the, it was a bit ancient. Pretend the Britannic. Yeah, but also it like what happened? I can't remember what happened to that. Let's see. It's the Britannic. But it also, like, what happened? I can't remember what happened to that. Apparently they were like, it sank in the ITC on November 21, 1916 killing 30 people.

Don't get on a boat in the early 1900s. Well, I also just learned about another boat tragedy this weekend from Meg. Meg told me about this. Oh, yeah. It was some ship in Indiana, I believe, that went down and like 1100 people went into the water

and only 300 people got rescued. The other 800, many of which got eaten by sharks. Oh, the Indianapolis. The USS Indianapolis. Oh, yeah, okay. It was like, how did Indianapolis get in a lake in water? Yeah, Indianapolis sharks. lake water. Yeah, that was the only detail I remember. Yeah, I was like, what is going on? Then you said sharks like, oh,

the Indianapolis. Okay. Yeah, Indianapolis Lake sharks. Yeah, that was a lot. I feel silly. Yeah, 1500 men went into the water. The 300 came out. This Indian lake sharks. Yeah, thinking about a shark shark so that's like dolls that There's a later episode where grandpa talks about having been on the Indianapolis Okay, and being in the water and then learning how to ride sharks to escape was one of those weird later season

It's one of the best monologues of all in all of cinema It's Quince monologue from jaws where he talks about being on the USS Indianapolis when it went down Yeah, yeah, God. So good. But did he ever go to Indiana? That's the real question. Gavin out here asking the real question. Yeah. Apparently the Britannic used to be called the gigantic to because it was the Titanic citizenship. Yeah, that is called man's hubris.

And then after the Titanic sank, they were like, oooh, let's rename it. There's also, welcome to the boat cast. We were like, ooh, let's rename it. There's also, welcome to you out of the boat cast. We're just, it's in the sepsons and boats. The chat is catching up to what I said in Vietnam. So, it's the best, it's the best. Absolutely. The idea to lead shark is the best hockey team

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That's mendes.com slash rooster teeth. There was a, was it the Lustetania or the, there was another like early 20, or early 19th century boat that also went down. Well, I know it didn't go down, or maybe it went down. I know it caught fire. And what happened was a bunch of the passengers in turn of the century garb,

which was essentially just like dental led vests. Like just in turn of the century garb, it just layers and layers of clothing. Grabbed a bunch of life vests on this boat, scrambling people screaming women and children, ah, everyone's like, you know, freaking out course because the boats on fire jump into the water with these life vests Which were made of sawdust and like cork which were so old that they essentially turned to cement Oh, and they hit the water and it just like stones to the bottom like so basically if you put on a life vest

It killed you like because these like they were expired They were expired exactly. He's like old ass life vest were to 100% expired You shouldn't have something that when it expires does the opposite of what it was made for it should it should only do more of what it's Post-operation. Yeah, right. It's like oh don't drink that milk after it expired gives you osteoporosis Like breaks your bones your Your bones become brittle. It's like a bird. Well, you know what it gives you a headache. That reminds me of the fucking sunscreen recall, because they had an ingredient that gives you cancer.

Benzine. Or that can cause cancer. Benzine. Benzine. Yeah. But it's like sunscreen to protect me from getting cancer. Now, might cause the cancer. Benzine. You're gonna get cancer sometime.

I still let the sun block do the job for you. God dammit. I don't know if you guys ever talked about it on Black Box Down, but there was this video that this girl made with information about how to actually position your body during an airplane landing, airplane crash rather, that has like 20 million views on TikTok. And she's saying that the correct way to do it,

which by the way, this is false. So what your legs up on this on the thing and try to stay as straight as possible because she's like, what the airline wants to happen with the brace position is they would want you to actually die in a plane crash so that you can't sue the airline. And it's like 20 million people have seen this video

and probably believe it. Now, please don't. So the reason you're supposed to lean down is so that your spine doesn't come out of your body. And also so nothing fucking hits your head. What's playing? Oh, that doesn't matter, Adelae. I mean, it depends on what the situation is.

It actually does matter. There are things you can do to improve your chances of survivability. We did an episode of Black Boxdown. I think it was Southern Airways 3 three, something, three, 52. I don't remember the exact flight number. But there was a guy on that flight who knew the plane was crashing. So he went around and collected all of the blankets he could and built a fort. And he like sat himself in the back of the plane.

He built a fort and then he thought there might be a fire. So he took off his leather jacket and then covered himself with it so that if there was a flash over fire, he wouldn't get burned. Rusted. And he survived. There were not very many survivors on that flight, but he was one of the people who survived. Holy shit.

Because he moved seats and then built a pillow fort. Wait, I've seen a seat. He could have. Who's that? Now, hold on. I remember, it's not from Airplane, the movie, but it's from a comedy.'s from a comedy reputable science No, no, no, no, it's a joke that like the plane like a plane's going down and like or like isn't trouble in the air

Like they don't have enough gas or something and like the Flight attendants going around and like ask some guides like can I get you anything? And he's like holds up his pillow. Can you give me about 50 more of these? So I mean, I remember that being a joke from something. Chad, if you know what that joke is from, what show, what show are moving that from? It just, it looms large in my mind. Because yeah, I was like, though, I was like, ah, that's a joke. But maybe, maybe, maybe, uh, 100 pillows just like, yeah, have you tried it?

Something to see. Someone told me that, um, I can't remember who this was or how long ago this was. Someone said that the reason they weren't even the brace position is so that when you burn up and melt your teeth land in the correct spot like on the chair. I was like, I see bells in general so that they can just be like, oh, you can identify the body easier. So it doesn't.

The teeth are right there. Yeah. The teeth are all mixed up. We don't know if you see a belt in it. Jesus Christ. Oh, so dark. One more these teeth are all mixed up. We don't know if you see belted in. Jesus Christ. Oh, so, God. One more bit. Discussion. Simpson's boats and morbid realities.

When you just, this past year, and I went to the movies and I watched old, has anybody seen old yet? The M Night Shyamalan movie? No, I haven't spoiled almost out the gate. Take, take, take, take, take, ruin it. Well, there's a, there's a character in there who's, who's, for part of the movie, he's like obsessed with trying to remember this other movie It makes me think about what you're saying to like where was these frallows from? Like stuff will be happening in this guy. I'll be like, okay, okay. We're gonna deal with that

But first more than brown under Jack Nicholson. We're in a movie together. What was that movie? I can't remember there was like Stop stop and sufferable. Oh god to write that into him. No, thank you You've just got like I was thinking like maybe it's good a lot of people have that into them. No, thank you. You've just got, like I was thinking, like maybe it's good a lot of people who have been talking about it. No, no, I'm done. If the guy I have to hang out with the parties all the time is there,

which is me, but I don't want to go. Can you imagine if you went to a movie and the like one of the like through lines of it was, hey, what's that tune that goes? Ba da ba da da ba. Ba da ba da ba. Ba da ba da ba. Ba da ba.

What? I just like, what the f- and that continues to the movie. Like, I'm gonna burn this movie in the crowd. I'm gonna find all prints of this movie. Unless there is an amazing payoff. Right. I mean, it better be amazing. The check-offs, AK-47.

Yeah. That better be the fucking aliens auto-loader showing up at the end to fight the queen. Level tune. Yeah, pay off for that. Jesus me. There was. There wasn't.

I'm just saying, yeah, cool. Yeah, and that'll be a rental. Yeah, I mean, it was like, it wasn't amazing or anything, but, it's no paris. What is in my shamans first name? Him or anything, but... It's no paris. What is in Night Shyamalan's first name? Him. But it's Fritz Lang. There's no period under, have you ever noticed?

His name is just him. Yeah, get them. I'm kidding. I was like, you're the only one who opened Lamb. Him night. I'm gonna guess. Mickey. I'm gonna guess Matthew.

I was gonna say, I was gonna say Michael. I was gonna say Michael as well. Michael is a guest gap. Michael Knight, Shyamalan, because you're not gonna be, so say they're with the night rider. We had Michael and Matthew. Matthew, you both were all three, you were really close.

It's Manage. Ah ha. Real close. There it is. Manage. M-A-N-O-J. Hope I'm getting that right. It's actually Manage.

Is that water in the desert or is it a manage? It's really good. It's what now? Manage Nileyatu Shama-la. Aha. So it's not even night. Man, talk about someone who captured, just captured four years was King of the world.

Wait, he has his three names. So he's Manaja Toa. Oh. Sorry. Sorry. Can we Iris out on Barbara right now? Beew. We don't have that kind of text in the buy it.

Can we find his cheapest Iris effect? Please get the cardboard. I would have that kind of tech-gustened by it. Give me your finest cheapest iris, effect, please. I've got the cardboard. Yeah, that guy, man, he- Six cents, unbreakable. Unbreakable and signs. Between those, I mean- I think before this, before I saw Old, I think the last M Night Shyamalan movie I saw in the theater,

I think was The Village. And I think I got so pissed off at The Village, I was like, I'm not the last M Night Shyamalan movie I saw in the theater, I think was the village. And I think I got so pissed off at the village, I was like, I'm not watching another M Night Shyamalan movie in the theater. Have you ever walked out of a movie in the theater? No, I don't, I don't, I don't think I have. I've done it. What? What was it?

Meet the Spartans. I, I, I have walked out of two movies and guess what? One, oh, hello. Uh, he's, he's coming. Uh, I've, uh, I've walked out of two movies and one what? Oh, hello. He's coming. I've walked out of two movies and one of them was an imni-chon movie. A movie with it. Lady in the water.

I hate it. I was like, this is dogs. I didn't love that one either. Was that the guy with the one really buff arm? Yeah. Was that Freddie Prince Jr. I think? It might be. What's the guy's name?

He's like old and kind of creepy looking who's in that movie You're I'm gonna look him in am I in the late in the water. Yeah, he's like the guy who like keeps the pool I I can't I I said I did walk out, but it was well well after the Probably 75 I probably should have stated the end, but it was well, well after the probably 75. I probably should have just stated the end, but I was just, I was, at that point, it's a matter of principle.

It's the principle. It's the principle. Paul Giamatti. I love Paul Giamatti. He's great, he's great, but he's not really crazy in that movie. In that movie. Yeah. I love Paul Giamatti.

He's the best. But yeah, it was like, it was the principle of walking out. I was so angry at the movie. I was like, I'm leaving, I'm leaving. I fucking hate this movie. I'm going, and the other one was, this, I'm leaving. I'm leaving. I fucking hate this movie. I'm going, and the other one was, this is the other movie I walked out of.

I didn't even hate. I just like, I guess I just wasn't feeling well or something. I didn't, but it wasn't. The vibe was off. The vibe was a 100% off. Sure. And you know what that movie is? A perfectly pleasant film?

Cars. Yeah. I look at it. I was not expecting cars. Pixar's cars. I hate it cars. I don't look god, I was not expecting God. Pixar's... Cars! I... I hate it, Cars. I...

It's awful. It's an awful series. It's not good. It's not good. Are you serious with this? Yeah, no, I hate Cars. I love it. I love it.

All Disney and Pixar movies. Too... An unhealthy amount of Cars fucking sucks. Just like, Arbs cross to the theater, and it's like, nope. Nope. No, today I'm going to see that. No, it's like, just all and the theater's like, nope. Nope. No, they ain't gonna see that. No, it's like, it's just all these children in the theater with you.

It's like, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. Like, it's nothing but a problem. What did you learn this is terrible? It's stepping on children's feet. Ow, ow, get me in there. Why don't you in there? Would you have a kid nephew or something? What was good on you?

I lived at the time, I was living in Sanofenia, Mexico. And I was like, I wanna go see, I'm gonna go see a movie one afternoon and I went and saw cars and I remember sitting there. It came in 2006, so we earned that all. Yeah, yeah. I just remember being like, I just, I'm not enjoying this at all.

What if it got at the end? What if that was great payoff? Is it worth it to like suffer for an hour and a half for a great payoff at the end? Sure. Oh my God. It's the beauty and splendor of Santa Fe being like, I could go skiing today or I could go see cars.

Yeah. The land of enchantment was sully that day when I went and saw a big sized car. Well, that's a thing. It was just like, I think the thing the reason the vibe was off is because for me, I was just like, this is kind of just like, save the cat 101.

I get to say, it's such a by the numbers movie that it was just kind of like, it's not a good thing. Yeah, but have you seen the other Pixar movies? Other Pixar movies are in fact brilliant and amazing and like wonderful storytelling. But Cars really was the first time I felt like it was like, ugh, swingin' a miss, Pixar. Like this thing feels like really, really rough.

And they're in there with your notepads swinging a miss. Yeah, swingin' a miss. Yeah, Pixar. Yeah, I went and saw your movie, Cars, an adult man by himself. Let's just say I'll be trading this one in. Just shut your mouth. Shhh.

Oh. I was, uh, I was, I saw it. It was funny in the movie. I was, I was on my honeymoon. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. And we were driving around New England. And we were stuck like a new Haven, Connecticut or something.

And I was like, oh, let's watch cars. And we started to watch the people. And it's like, partway through that movie, you have that real sensation where you're like, this will be sucks. I'm gonna watch the movie. This is so layered. Oh my God. You never see movies and theaters. And you went to see cars.

So it was an empty theater. So we were like it, like I said, in you haven't connected. We were somewhere in the middle of nowhere in Connecticut. Everything was closed. So we were stuck in our hotel. And it was like, you could watch it in the hotel of nowhere in Connecticut. Everything was closed. So we were stuck in our hotel and was like, you could watch it in the hotel TV. So that's how we watched it.

That's fair. But on your honeymoon? Yeah. Like I said, I want to say it was new haven today. It was somewhere in Connecticut. And the whole town was closed. There was nothing to do. Like let's just watch cars.

It's cars are Euro-trip. Whatever else was on. In like 2006. Oh, like, oh. Oh my God. Oh God, that is sick. Just, I, I didn't know you guys were also connected by the movie cars.

Oh man. It's a very distinct memory for me. Because I remember sitting there watching it. And like you said, it was like, everyone that could try to get it to then was like, amazing, incredible. Then I was watching it, so I was like, waiting for it. It was like, it it like you said it's like every other P.T. I would get to see up to then was like amazing incredible then I was watching this was like waiting for it was like It's not happening. It's not happening. It's not clicking for me. I'm just not but what made you stay I Pied like five bucks for it or whatever like I was like Movie and was yours was your storm out was it like I'm getting up and leaving this movie

Or was it like I'm gonna go pee and then I may I just want to go back in will you like? I'm leaving right now. I made the decision to leave. It was just like, well, I am out of snacks. The amount of popcorn and soda, so best to just get on down the road. I think you hit it exactly, there goes. Which is just like, it never hits that gear. It never happens.

You're just like, because you sit, yeah. You sit, you watch Monsters Inc and it's like a monster society powered by the screams of children. But like, primitized. And they have portal doors into every person's bedroom, everything, everything new thing you learn about the world in Monsters Inc. You're just like brilliant. Like what a cool novel concept, every like every turn in the thing as cool novel concept, every turning the thing as a novel concept that's very cool. And it's just like, and then cars, like their cars that have eyes.

And they talk. The cars are people. They're just a story about people, but their cars. And also, this was brought up in another podcast. I can't remember which one, but some of they were talking about, like if they open the car doors, just viscera pour out,

just gutts. Like as it guts on the the because their eyes are the windshield So you would have done like then and they move their wheels like their hands kind of well I think somebody said the other day like if the cars universe is parallel to the human universe Then there must have been a cars Jesus Christ and so just like the entire imagery of a cars Jesus is like can you crucify? Exactly like a horrifying, just like, the rabbit hole is a part too quickly. You're one of those cranky things.

You're one of those cranky things. It's on a lift. Yeah. I said, you know, I'm drawing like an X-ray of one of those cars, like with all the wallets. Oh, surely. Like where they would all be. Yeah, I'll be.

The hamburger helper, the hamburger helper skeleton is by far the scariest little X-ray I've ever seen in my life Well, I'm trying to look one up here to show you gap. I think I found a what a fan interpretation What would you say is the best Pixar film then if cars is your probably your least favorite best Pixar film? I I think I think like the I think a lot of people might say Wally, but that's too long. Too long. I agree. I agree. I feel like when I've had this comment, good.

Oh, it's like a tongue into the title. Yeah, it's showing. Oh, showing stuff. I feel like when I've had this conversation with people, a lot of people I know have said, said, said Wally, but I honestly, I don't know how classified as the best. I wouldn't. I would say it probably, the first Incredibles movie is so incredible.

It is so fucking good. It is airtight. It is an airtight movie. I think from a technical standpoint as well, where they were doing a bunch of weird camera shit, and we learned about it, you learned about it in film school from a this weird concept of the camera in that movie

doesn't exist, it's all in the computer, but they do rack focuses, and they use of the camera in that movie doesn't exist. Like it's all in the computer, but they do like rack focuses and like dolly, they use all the camera movements that should exist. And so it's the fact that like this weird concept of like, there is no camera here, but they're still using all the language of cinema. Yeah, it's just such a strange conceit. And like that was the first big time that like was very clean.

Absolutely, absolutely. Do you see the second one? I've not seen the second one. The second one's really good. Yeah, it actually holds up really well. I think the first incredible was also the first time they did a movie with human protagonists as the main characters, right?

That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess Sid said from Toy Story 1 was the antagonist, so yeah, like, right. But he's also, he didn't see him all the time right off the side of the toys. The, I feel like Pixar movies, the he's also, he didn't see him all the time. Right, right. The, uh, there are, I feel like Pixar movies, uh, you know, the good ones, not cars. I feel like, I feel like, uh, I feel like, uh,

I feel like, uh, I feel like Pixar movies, uh, the good ones, the one, the rankable ones, always have a moment in them where, at least for me, where I go, you got me, like, I'm on board. You have a hundred percent soul meat from this moment, like, this is the thing that like, where things clicked over. And I think for me, for, for'm on board. You have 100% sold me from this moment. This is the thing that were things clicked over. And I think for me, for Monsters Inc, it was one minute detail that made me mentally ascend.

This movie is so thought about that it hurts. This was so consider, which was the very beginning of the movie toward the beginning of the movie. You already know the concept, toward the very beginning of the movie toward the beginning of the movie. Like you already know the concept, but toward the very beginning of the movie, on the monster's scare floor, it's like, ah, scare like the shifts over and a bell on the wall rings. BELL on the wall rings shifts over. On the bell, they actually created paint chips on the bell where the ring will hit it, which is like such a real natural attention to detail

lived in peace of anem, like lived in thing that would occur in a factory that's been around for even more than a few years, which is like paint chips, like little paint chips where the ringer has been hitting the bell. It's just like that's love. I love that kind of stuff. That stuff, that makes you want to go rewatch all of this ask you something great. It is so thought about. Yeah, it is. Every frame of that might feel like that movie is thought about in a, in a, in a, in a caring and guard. So, yeah, that's it.

Like, looking for stuff like that in the real world, just to make sure I wasn't in a simulation. Sure. No one would ever come up with that. So good. Like, for a wild, I remember one of the ones that where I was definitely like, oh, yeah, no one would come up with that. I was on a plane. I went to pee.

And there's always those like, don't tamper with the fire thing stickers. But some of the sticker on the ceiling have peeled back a little bit and someone's hair was stuck in it. And I just thought, I don't think anyone would come up with that, that's just happened. No one would, someone tall went in there

and like, just like, tugged out one of their hairs because it was peeled back. Because like, if you explain that to somebody in a game or a video, be like, no, we can't do that. It's too, that doesn't happen. But no, it does. It's just very small and irregular. You wouldn't think of it.

Yeah. People's brains, you good? Like, I would never have that thought process in my entire life of just like, let me look for details that if this were a semi-alert simulation, let me look for them. I'm just like, oh, someone told us a bit in here. Okay.

Do-do-do. I like to run the room real quick to see if it's loading. Like you said. I'm in a hurry. It's like, wow, get walls getting more resolution alive so that pup is over there. Ah. The mirrors aren't working.

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I think you've never done that. You've never looked at something and been like, wow, that's cool. No one would ever come up with that. No, I haven't. I did have like a weird moment a few months ago where I was watching too many videos about life being a simulation and like different like experiences people have had that have been very out of body and very much like, oh clearly there was a glitch in the matrix because this happened and blah, blah, blah. Where I started thinking I was like, you know, there's people who are completely

normal and completely sane and like no one thinks anything of it, pretty much their entire life. And then all of a sudden, some people just switch and just go crazy. And I was like, I wonder what happens? Like if are these people like actually awake and actually know that we're in a simulation and have seen something or know something that like proves it? And like to us, they just seem insane,

but they actually, something actually switched or something happened to them because they knew too much or like, whatever it was, and I'm just like, how does that happen? And then I started thinking about it too much where I started having a little bit of a panic attack. Sure.

And I was talking, it was just like one of the more interesting kind of compelling theories about like, guys we're about to get real deep, pull up your bones kids. It's like, of one of the more like interesting theories or conceptual ideas behind like, the soul or at least like,

we can't really account for like, personnel, like our personhood, something that like we kind of self-identify and other people's like, no, the Greek pics are moving. It's true. So actually, it's great. And it just like one of the the the the the the the the the the least like something to think about,

which I thought was interesting is the way we think about different planes of reality and that like, how would you explain that the human body maybe might be in fact like a TV. And that you are a signal being sent. A TV. A TV. The human being is like a TV.

Like your body is like a TV. And that you is essentially like a signal sent to this body from whatever exists in some plane that's, we don't know anything about. But when you think about a TV from a dog's perspective, you look at it's like, I do, I'm not even gonna talk about it. It's like a TV.

Yeah, it's just like, well, it's just like the image lives inside the TV. Like the image you would think that the image lives inside the TV or that black thing is coming up, it's like, no, that's being broadcast from somewhere far away. And even like, even that on a technical level to me, is just kind of mind boggling. Yeah.

The thing that I took away, I think, is I think you and I watched the same video. It's the limit of human intelligence, where it's like, oh, if, like, we can only be so smart and understand so much, in the same way, the dogs watching TV thing, maybe think of this, where like, if you show a dog game of thrones, they'll be able to see the image, but they won't be able to like interpret what's going on.

And in the same way, there are probably a ton of things that we are just dogs watching TV on. We're just like, and it take the thing, yeah, exactly. We'll protect that, took that concept, like kind of in a very literal sense, what I told you which I thought was like, was the idea that like, oh, that your body is the TV? That like, oh, the simulation's coming for us right now.

It's coming for us right now. Which probably say there's a huge thunderstorm here, so if we lose power, that's why. Oh, yeah. There's a good call. And they just don't have a break. It's not the matrix we promise. Yes, it's not rebooting. But that's what they want us to think. What's analogous to that is years ago, I saw this video where the video tried to, as simply as possible, explain different dimensions.

Sure. And what you're talking about here is analogous to trying to explain the third dimension we all live in to a two-dimensional creature who can only see an X and a Y axis where everything's flat. It's like there's no concept of this whole third dimension above us, just how we exist in other dimensions that we can't perceive. Like the fourth dimension exists and we're in it. We're in it.

But our reality is only based around this XYZ3 dimensions. And we can't cut to our audience right now. Yes. We can't see these other dimensions because even though we're in them because we don't have either the level of comprehension or the ability to interact with them. Sure. It's like magnetic, it's also like magnetic fields. They're everywhere, but you can't feel them or radio frequencies. It's like, it's hitting you all the time, you just don't have the equipment to decode it or to think it. Yeah. I think also to you something that's really fascinating to me too, is to think about like how human human beings and humanity is set up on this like tiny planet in pretty much infinity.

Like the universe extends out infinitely in all directions and it's so vast and it's expanding. And it's expanding and it's so vast and continuous in all directions that like the concept of infinity like we you know previous versions of humanity, I say ancient generations thought that like the sky ended, you know, that the universe basically ended at the clouds. That like the night sky was basically just the firmament where there were just holes poking the sky. I know. I love it.

As we're talking about this kind of stuff. But yeah, it's so loud. The concept of infinity ended at the sky, basically. And then as human beings gain more technology and intelligence and stuff, we realize that, oh no, that goes on infinitely out, and also infinitely small, which is one of the things that's really crazy that if you see this. The end of men in black one.

A kick hand. Yeah, no, but, yeah, but, but if you've ever seen one of those, like a scale model that like zooms out cosmically for the like the scale of the universe and then goes down. Yeah, that's creepy. It goes down way more than it goes out.

Oh, just like, have you heard? But there's no end to either direction there, surely. Well, there's there I was up whatever like the subatomic whatever Antman was trying to tell us the quantum realm Yeah, exactly the quantum whatever Antman was trying to tell whatever best by test video was Play show that that feels like a very like I mean, so like you talked about like magnifying and right and you talk You think about how much distance there isn't an atom I looked this up so I would get the numbers right If you were to magnify a hydrogen atom where the nucleus which is a proton is the size of a basket ball Uh-huh, then it's one electron would be two miles away. Holy shit

The amount of space in between those two things right Right. It's such a crazy distance between them. And you've got trillions of atoms all in you. Or maybe more. And that isn't that the plot of honey ash from the kids that Racial and Ski is like, there's tons of space in between atoms. And we just shrink that space. And that's how we shrink things down. We have to compress that. We just have that space, and that's how we drink things down.

That's like the pressure. The stat for that. The empty space between atoms, if you were to condense that all down, you could fit, I think, the entire population of Earth in a sugar cube. Holy shit. That is fucked up. Guys, we don't know enough to be terrified. We know enough to be scared.

Let's be dogs watching Game of Thrones. We know enough to be scared. When there's a lot of kids watching Game of Thrones. Yeah, let's go back to that. I had a moment to say. I had a moment to say. I had a moment to say. I had a moment to say. I had a moment to say. I had a moment to say.

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I had a moment to say. I had a moment to say. I had a moment to say. I had a moment to say. I had a moment to say. I had a moment to say. I had his cats there. And I was just thinking I was like, man, that'd be nice just to be a cat. Like literally just no worries in the world. You're just walking around laying in the sun, sleeping 23 hours a day, pissing, not thinking about climate change or voting or just chilling. You say that because some I've had to stop before. Like I've looked out my window and I say that because some, I've had this thought before,

like I've looked out my window and I'll, you know, I've talked many times about these fucking animals in my yard. And I'll watch these squirrels, you know, running around doing whatever shit squirrels do. And I think the same things you do. Like, oh, it must be nice to like not have this, like at the time I thought,

I was thinking about this a lot during like the height of COVID when we were all stuck at home. Everything was really bad last summer. I was like, God, it must be nice to be that squirrel. And I was watching it and I thought, I was thinking about this a lot during the height of COVID when we were all stuck at home. Everything was really bad last summer. I was like, God, it must be nice to be that squirrel. And I was watching it and I thought, but I don't have to worry, I don't have to worry about being eaten today. So there's that trade off. Yeah, but we still, like, I guess not everyone does, but a lot of people worry about death a lot, and just like potential ways of getting yourself into a bad situation. Yeah. And avoiding that.

Yeah, it's like kind of like thinking about survival, to a degree. But I'm just thinking about, there's not another animal that's like, Oh, you look delicious. I'm gonna eat you. You eat you. No, we, we, the things trying to kill us are a governor.

That's who's trying. That's, that's who's after us. They're really trying. They're really, they're really giving a shot. That's the thing that's like, yeah, I do, what's the trade off of the like burden of self-awareness? Like where do you like, I feel like what's the trade?

Where you're like beauty and self-awareness, where it's just like we get to enjoy. Like I don't feel like a cat or a squirrel is gonna ever have that moment of like distinct poetic clarity when you're like outside in the trees and a lighter in one specific way. Very true, very true. They will get to enjoy that like we get to enjoy it

in that moment. Absolutely, I get what you're saying. There are some one specific way. Very true. They will get to enjoy that. Like, we get to enjoy it in that moment. Absolutely. I get what you're saying. There are some benefits to being. Conscious. For a human. Yeah, and just like being able to enjoy the beautiful in between moments, we can see more of the world

than what we can walk to. Right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, it's like, when you see a cat laying in a sunbeam, you perceive that as man. That looks great. What, that seems like the best. And I think the catbeam, you perceive that as man. That looks great. What, that seems like the best.

And I think the cat is like, sleep now, food later. Mm-hmm. Maybe? I think they're not quite as beautiful as an egg. That's kind of beautiful. And the fact that you can even interpret that as having any kind of aesthetic, the fact that you can apply any kind of aesthetic to it

is something that's just like, very unique and very special. But yeah, because I feel like to be that animal, you see videos and this is gonna get, again, really weird and more of it. But I've never seen a video of a crocodile eating a deer, like pulling a deer into the water. And the deer is just like going, like, it's struggling,

but it's blank, there's like, it's not, you don't see fear in an animal. It's just, is that like a chemical thing? Is it just like in shock? I mean, the same way a human would be. Well, they can't, animals don't really amote. They don't amote. Like, there's not, for the most part,

I would say most of the game, I'm not thinking, doesn't, doesn't amote. And so it's just like, where, but they have the same kind of lizard brain, I would say most of the game I'm looking doesn't, doesn't emote. And so it's just like where, but they have the same kind of lizard brain flight or flight or fight response. So that, whatever that like thing that gives like, you know, me anxiety or what I, or you and I are anxiety that like still exist

in there somewhere, but in an animal is part of just like, tree branch broke. I gotta run, like you just hear like a crack and then you run. But I don't think there's like an emotional component to that. Yeah. Which is interesting. Reaction instinct. It's instinctive.

Yeah. If you've ever seen that video, it was popular maybe 10 years ago. I think someone called it the Battle of the Serengeti. Or it's like, you remember this, right? It's like lions and crocodiles and water buffalo all fighting this three way fight. Or it's like lions chase down a small water buffalo, knock it down and they're like on top of it, like they're going to eat it, but they're next to this pond. Then the alligators come out and scare the lions off because they want to eat the little

water buffalo. But then the herd of water buffalo come back and fight the lions and the alligators off and take the water buffalo back into their herd. It's just weird seeing like this three-way animal fight happening. Like this standoff where they're all like- And is it just filmed by Possus by? It's just like some dude on a safari, like camp horses. Whoa, now this freaking alligators.

It's just like at the top of a safari truck. There's alligators in there. No, they're dragging it. Now buffalo, we're coming back and they're're fighting. And then they're gonna eat me. Oh my god. New bog. Yeah, that's kind of what I was talking about. Like you don't have to worry. Like this animal has two different things trying to eat it at the same time. Yeah, I saw in chat someone said animals do a moat. They do do I would say for the most part and when you see like have you see an animal do this? Do you do fix our face to do our dream workspace?

This is every dream works cover it's either a dream works cover or a shitty mobile game Speaking of zooming into shit, really, really close. That stuff terrifies me for some reason. Okay, sending it to you and I was wondering why you weren't responding. I sent you like three or four TikToks. Just now?

No, a while back. And I was like, how do you think they do that, Gavin? You're like, I don't know. He's just scared. Like, that was it. Conversations suspended. But it's like, there's this, I think I've talked about this before, there's like this mathematical thing.

I think it's called a mandel-brot set. Or something like that. Yeah, it's called a mandel-brop set, or something like that. Yeah, it's a lot of shit on a graph, but then it sort of infinitely makes this pattern and you can zoom in. It's like for us. Yeah, really far. And I watched like 30 seconds of that,

and then I sort of lose track of how deep in I am. And I'm like, oh, if I had to find this exact spot again, I don't know if I can find it. And then it's like, I've got it too deep. And the fact that I couldn't find the same spot again if I zoomed all the way out, it fills me with dread and I don't know what. Like, I can't watch that stuff.

I'm just like, I'm getting lost. I'm too far deep. I'm going all the way in. I'm in 2D. I can't get out. You think there is a universe smaller than us, like smaller than we could actually see that has also living beings.

Like the borrowers? You talking about the borrowers? It's men in black one ending. It's men in black one ending. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a marble. Do you think so? Yeah, the thunder is just the marble rolling around.

That's right. Oh man. Oh, it's a much better one. Oh, shit. Earthquake. It's, there's so many little things things that like little elements of science little nuggets of science that you learn little like your snaple facts of stuff little blurbs that you learn about science that there's enough of them that are so mind blowing that at some

point I'm just like anything is like sure like anything fuck it like one of my my favorite things is like if you were managed, if you managed to fall backwards into a black hole, time would condense so much that you would see the ret, like looking out back into the universe, you would see the rest of the history of the universe play out before your eyes.

Wait, it would speed up for you. It would speed up for you. You would see galaxies come together and explode and as though on cue. As though on. I'm doing something. You can't do it. Because whatever you're moving your hand,

I can't keep mentioning it. No, like, yeah, because as time, as you were falling backwards in a black hole, time would compress for you. So stuff further away from the black hole would play out essentially light speed for you. It'd be a away from the back hole would play out in quill at essentially light speed for you. It'd be a firework show of the universe playing out. But how would you live through that? Because would you not age through it?

You would exist in at normal speed because you are in your relative to you. Relative to you. Relative to you. Well, put your electrons to be closer than two miles probably. Probably. As you get crushed. It's just sugar cube. Exactly. Because gravity affects time, which makes it appear as though time is in fact a substance. Or has something, a physicality that can be manipulated. And where is Kane the Conqueror?

In this. But if I had a mirror, point it back out of the black hole, I guess the light kind of. Yeah. So this is all because I was going to try and show them, like, you know, by Bitcoin or something. Exactly. Yeah. That would be a big fucking mirror.

Somewhat related to that, there's that thing that always, we've talked about this many times throughout the years over the, um, on the podcast. Is the thing that always freaks me out is that you can see small effects of this in GPS satellites. The clocks on GPS satellites run faster than clocks on the ground. They've been up there for so long.

Because they have less gravity. Or they're going so fast. They've been up there so long that GPS receivers on Earth have to compensate for this time drift that they've experienced in being in space. And it's 38 microseconds per day that they gain. And they've been up there long enough where it's an appreciable amount to cause errors in GPS. If GPS receivers don't correct them.

So there's these people out there in the world who are that smart. Like they can go like create satellites and make sure like Einstein figured out that time moves differently. I still can't figure out when you jump on a train. If you're in the train, you don't go anywhere, but if you're on the roof, you do. What? Wait, why on the roof? No.

You're on the roof of a train and you jump. That's a train move out from underneath you. The wind's just as bad as this. Yeah. I don't know this. I'm saying like, there are smart people in the world. I'm a dumb one. We haven't even brought up the moon yet.

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And we went through the entire podcast. Now, she's in one. And Drew and I hear to talk about the exact same thing. Ruby Grim. Very good. No, we're here to talk about the, what is it, the National Duck Painting Competition stamp? The mill, what a,

Oh, we're talking. The Federal Duck stamp contest. Yeah, I pitched it, you entered it and now you're gonna split the million dollar polynomial, right? Oh, wow, right. You're holding it to me, right in your live on air. Damn. I think that's a million dollar duck painting competition.

Yes. There is a on air. Damn. So that's a million dollar duck painting competition. Yes, there is. Pay for by the federal government. Yeah. So we paid. Yeah. So all of you in fact paid for this. So yeah, there's a yeah. Yeah, I can't vote.

Oh yeah. But I paid for the million dollar bridge. Same thing. I contributed it. Yes, the federal government, the Fish and Wildlife Service has a contest every year for artists to paint a duck, to appear on a stamp, a post-itch stamp. This is why we're on the show today.

And this is why we're on the show today. No, Drew suggested that I enter the contest, and so I did. Or I will. I painted the duck. The painting is impeccable. I don't know if there's a way to throw a video of do you really get money for it though? Oh, allegedly one million dollars. I'm looking it up.

It says federal duck stamp contest winners receive no compensation for their work other than a pane of stamps carrying their designs signed by the secretary of interior. Maybe it's a million dollars worth of stamps. Dude, that would be... You could send a lot of little tiny packages the secretary of interior. Maybe it's a million dollars worth of stamps. Dude, that would be... You could send a lot of little tiny packages, but one very big package. That's what I'm gonna do. Anywhere you want to grow. Yeah, send this to him, but you paint it to a million of your friends. You're welcome. I was told it was a million dollars.

Are you bummed out? By whom? By that TikTok? No, no, no, bye. Okay, great. I was making sure I'd sit you a TikTok. That's why I started. I'm trying to verify. I have no idea. I'm looking to suffer right now. You're getting extremely conscious. Was it somebody else who was like, oh, I entered

and I didn't win the million dollars? I remember that at one point in time, it was a million dollars. I just don't know if it's a million dollars. I hope you also didn't misread the title and it's not a dick painting for a million dollars. Whoops. I just like, in that case, hold on. If Eric says and it's not a dick painting for- Whoops. Oh. I just like- Well, in that case, hold on.

There it is. If Eric says maybe it's a million doll hairs. A million doll hairs. Ah, classic prank. I do love that. The idea that you could like go and survive it. You spend like a month out there and win a million dollars. Or you could paint a duck.

Paint a duck? You could say money. I think that's awesome. If it's real. A million dollars for painting a duck. I would start painting ducks. I would leave this podcast and start painting a duck. I mean, it sounds like we might be able to get

that happening for you. I'm thinking this needs to be a series or a documentary of some sorts. Duck picks. The... It writes itself. It's right there. It's right there.

Well, here's the thing, regardless, I mean, I'd love to win a million dollars to for painting this duck, but even if not, I had a very nice time painting duck. It's a beautiful painting. And a really, really any compensation would be nice. Are you showing it on this podcast? Do you want, I think you tweeted it, right?

Yeah, it's in one of your tweets. Yeah, yeah, it's in one of my tweets. Just scroll past all my criticism of the Democratic party and then you'll find. You can paint it. My frustration, I say criticism, but it is really just frustrating. And then yeah, it's in my Twitter somewhere. What did you learn how to paint?

I just tried it. I didn't learn how to paint. It's the most frustrating. Just try it. Please don't ask any more questions you haven't about how you learned how to paint because it's the most frustrating story of all time. Just naturally, very, very, very, very. You just like showed up on there. I was like, I will learn a paint

And then he just knows how to paint just knows how to fucking paint, but you like no I need to know do you learn like techniques or you just like there's that duck there. Let me see Oh, now it's on my canvas Yeah, I mean, it's the second thing you said It's fucking gross. The amount of talent that this person has sitting next to me on this couch was just like, oh cool, yeah, I just painted a really like photo realistic

painting of a duck. Hey, there it is. As whole. Wait, that's the painting? That's the painting. That's what he made. Shut up. That looks amazing.

I'm not a joke. Look at the way the light's hitting it. Yeah. It looks like a photo. It looks like a photo of the dog. I can't tell whether it's just because it's like much higher than that and it's being shrunk down on the screen, but it looks like a photo.

Right. Thank you. You know, you know, you know, you know, my reaction when I saw that tweet and I said it lovingly, I went, fuck off. Oh, this is like, how much is that? This is like, fuck off. And then this is how he's going to get $1 million.

That's where it is. So the contest is September 25th and 26th. Yes. Oh, wait, Oh, God. And then this is how he's gonna get $1 million. That's where it is. So the contest is September 25th and 26th. Yes. Oh, wait, that was 2020. No, it's coming up. I think the 20th and 20th. You're gonna put that thing in the mail. I got to put that thing in the mail by the day.

We're done in acrylics. Oh, so this is like two months away. Oh, one of the way. Oh, it's oil. So it's like, is it still damp? Well, I don't, so again, like I'm learning to paint. Clearly. And clearly.

I'm sorry. So my paintings look like an F2 lens. Look at that. The thing is, I didn't go to art school and I'm just kind of figuring things out as I go and I see things and I go, oh, let me try, I will try to turn this image or this thing into this over here.

And so there's like no rules. So I don't use like medium in my old pants because a lot of people thin their old pants out with like mineral spirits. What is large? God damn it. Boop. Boop.

Oh, ma'am, locked and loaded. Just ready to go. That's what you got. Peppa the faff. No, yeah. The people sometimes thin their pants with turpentine or mineral spirits or other types of medium to make the panda a little thinner. And then it dries sometimes faster, sometimes slower.

Yeah, the Mr. Bean gag where you like blots at the lady. Yeah, I don't, I don't use any thinner. Like I just use oil paint straight out of there or water, mixable oil straight out of the tube. So because they're water mixable, they dry a little bit faster than... So it's dry. It's, yeah, that one is pretty close to being dry,

even though it's a little too weak. How long does that take? To dry. Completely could be like months, depending on how thick the pain is. How you wanna ship that? Stay it's obviously. With stamps, it's a ruse.

No, say this for the documentary. The way I've been shipping paintings is like putting down like a, but essentially a piece of wax paper over the painting, then putting a piece of cardboard over that, then taping that to it, and then wrapping it in bubble wrap, and putting that in packing peanuts. Got it.

So that's... And then USPS takes it and just... Just to get first. Just to get first. I did send out a painting that I did, that got, that someone bought very, which I really appreciate people buying them. They bought a painting of mine, and I should, I did, that someone bought very, which I really appreciate people buying them. They bought a painting of mine and I should,

it got there safely, no damage, but when I took it to the post office and like, did all the thing, gave it to the lady, she was like, oh, get cool. I just like, did it in the back, just huck it. And I was like, man, I'm so glad that I put like all that packing care, the packing peanuts and the bubble wrap and like the protection cuz yeah

Just what you do is put up just like two pieces of broken glass in there with it So that when people move it it sounds delicate So there's like a broken China cup. I'm I'm wearing and this is just my mm-mm. I'm nervous I'm worried. I'm wearing a putting fragile on a box because I feel like I make people go kick it kick the shavet Exactly. Yeah, shav it. Exactly. Yeah, there's ice venture it. We'll done the straight up.

HDS coming through. Yeah. But then there was like, they're liable, right? If something breaks. I think it's like, you worked, if it's a thing that you made. Yeah, but they don't know it's in there. Sure. But if it's, you know, I'm sure they are liable to a degree if something.

You should. You also fucking fight that stuff. I mean, right. Yeah. It's not worth the fight. Yeah. Yeah. How long did it, the someone in chat, I forget what it was,

who was this empty force ass? How long did it take you to paint the duck paint? Oh, it's the other thing. Can't believe you're asking this. So in total, in total hours wise, probably like 12 hours, total. Like it. Because like, there's like, so I do a pencil sketch. probably like 12 hours total. Like it. Cause like it, there's like,

so I do a pencil sketch and then I seal that onto the board. So that like there. Did you have to Google this stuff or did you just know it? I like googled some things, I like researched it. I'm like just like or watched a YouTube video. Just like the education online. Everyone, you can do time lapse the paint Oh that would be cool. I did do like I posted it on on Instagram did a like

uh what would you call it? uh the story. The tutorial? No no no a photo series of like progression like like here's like here's like the first like you know here's when I put the sketch on and like here's the first like a time lapse of like progression. Like, it's like, here's like, the first, like, you know, here's when I put the sketch on and like, here's the first. Like a time lapse with less effort. With less effort, exactly, exactly.

Pretty precisely. So. That'd be a sick video that I've seen. I want to like, get a set up so that I can like, do, like, show, do a video. I'm basically, do a time lapse. Cause like, normally I do that on my phone, but that's usually next to me playing a podcast.

That's what that's doing most of the time. But that's not why we're here. That's not what the most of us are. No, I appreciate- That was full tangent, just about your dumb duck phone. I know, that I appreciate the, I appreciate all the nice things that people have said. So we currently have a show on RTTV called The Most,

the UNI Host, right? Yes. So live on Tuesdays. Live on Tuesdays, and the only place that it's been available is right on RTTV, only on roosterchete.com, not Spotify, not Apple, nowhere else couldn't make the cut. Didn't make the cut. But now it's on Disney Plus.

Now it's on Disney Plus. So you watch it in 4.3. So yeah, exactly. What you... So what we've been told thus far is we have been given an audio version of the most. Finally. It's gonna be a podcast.

No idea when it airs yet. Baby. But we are officially a podcast and we wanted to come on your podcast and let everybody know that. You know, Doug, I heard you like podcasts. Yeah. The other thing that we're working on right now

in honor of like getting traction for the new audio podcast is We will be on anyone's podcast that asks us including this one all it has to do is fit two criteria one No hate you can't have hate speech would be a hateful person number two. We have to be remote. That's it. Otherwise Pretty open to doing it. So you guys have an email or a contact people could? You can hit us up. You can DM our, uh, the most casts on Twitter at the most cast. Yeah, at the most cast. Our DMs open.

DMs are open. Okay. Come through. We've already booked a couple, uh, of strangers, strangers podcast. You all know anything about playing crashes. Uh, we can, here's the thing. Andrew's really good at improv and I'm really good at interrupting Andrew. So we can do it without powers combined. We can do it. No interrupting Andrew. So, we can do it. With our powers combined.

We can do it. No, yeah, well, we'll appear on everything. I was just on good friend of mine's podcast. What a time to be alive. You did not invite me. I asked a cat and she was like, we're just doing one person guest this week. I mean, it's true.

I'd like to say, get your tag out. We just did the whole thing. I just did the whole thing. I'm so good. Yeah. Could you tag that out with your, did it? No. It's a three hour long podcast did it by himself. Yep, that's right. While painting a duck. While painting a duck and smoking a pipe at the whole thing. I'm so good. Yeah, I got out with you. No, it's a three hour long podcast. Did it by himself? Yeah, that's right.

While painting a duck. While painting a duck and smoking a pipe at the same person. No, so yeah, it was on what a time to be alive. The latest episode came out today. It was a lot of fun, totally fun. And thank you all for having us on here to talk about it as well. I had no involvement in that decision whatsoever. That's fine.

I see. Then I'm going to resend my thanks from you. I will not let chat are already asking, is there going to be a B? Yeah, there would be a audio version. Yeah, we'll throw in a little audio. Okay. Oh the Yeah, Ted the most be yeah because the that's a visual gag from the show So once it's on audio we will we will have to get a sound effects board and like actually put in a little For those who have not watched or We have one tomorrow. What would you say is your favorite episode that people should check out on RRustrT.com

to get a good flavor of the podcast, to get a good taste for it. This last week was one of my favorites, but that was just very personally my favorite, because all we did was talk about movies for an hour, so I was just like, maybe I got to be myself the whole hour, just like geek shit. And then, but probably my favorite episode, or like the best episode, it's probably the podcast but outside, I would say. The guys are so funny. And then what a time to be alive is also very good,

but it's just really any episode that you watch, it's all variant on how much Andrew and I are cackling. So if you enjoy Andrew and the cackling, let's hear some of this. If you see just Chin in the thumbnail, it's a good one. That's a yeah, precisely. I feel like I have some top episodes,

and it's usually, because you know because it's sort of a storytelling podcast. It's most like most podcasts is like, you know, it's friends. Shoot the shit. Like most podcasts, which is great. So I have like, one of the hardest times I probably ever laughed in the show was Maxi talking about her encounter with Hulk Hogan. Which is like, like an all time, just like, I gotta go on to the show. Crying laughing with that episode.

Then there's also an episode with Hannah and Noel toward the beginning when we liked it with like, this was like October last year. In fact, it was October last year because it was the Sputacular edition. Sputacular. Where Noel told, maybe the scariest story I've ever, like edge of my seat fre freaky story that Noelle told.

And so like, that guy's a lot of stories. He has a lot of stories. And the one from last year where he tells a spooky story is definitely one to check out. And then yeah, what a time being on Super Fun, the podcast out of but outside guys are really fun. I think like, one of the really, you know, one of the ways we measure like whether an episode is good or not

is just like the fact that we can't get to the questions. Like, the last questions answered the better the episode is. Yeah, exactly. We had a Sam Ration Josh Rubin on from College Humor. That was a really, really fun episode. It's like, so you know like an episode is going well when you're like, hey, we're at the 45 minute, it's an hour long show.

We like, we got the 45 minute mark and I haven't asked a question yet. Yeah, I know, she's like, because it's just a lot of fun. The first time I was on the most, I was really nervous because like, I don't host that show, I was like, maybe I know the question. You're like, where are you going? You guys can't relinquish control like that.

Well, we haven't even started yet, we're 30 minutes in. Oh my God, what's going to happen? What's going to happen? Part of the stick. It's part of the bit, it's part of the fun. But what's really great is like, on top of that, I feel like you and I have great chemistry with the guests that we've had.

It's been like, oh, we go 30, 45 minutes without asking a question, and it's still been a good time. And then we get to ask questions with the most in them. So then we have like built an automatic conversation starters to just like tell stories and go from there. Well, you guys are also, let me, two y'all's horns for a second. Okay.

Don't read into that phrase too much. Okay. But you guys are really like some of the easiest people to have a conversation with and like some of the most fun people to talk to. And also I think such an underrated characteristic of people who do podcasts, You guys are a great audience. Because I feel like there's people who you both did this at the same time.

But there's some people who host podcasts or do shows and they don't... Like people who laugh at other people's jokes and who are like dig deeper into what people are saying and stuff like that and are just good people who listen. Like really engaging. And who we are engaged in, who laugh and who like make, and are just good people who listen. Really engage. And who are engaged and who laugh, and who make the guests feel like they're funny and they're interesting. I'm so afraid to say anything,

just like, don't, you're gonna spoil it. But yeah, I'm just like, for the, you know, the few times I've been on, it's always like a joy. And like, a real good time, yeah. That's one of the nicest things I've ever heard. Cause like, Even nicer than your duck painting? No, it is.

That duck, take a hike, duck painting. This is like, that's the juice, right there. Is my new duck painting? No, that's what I feel like that's a common denominator in some of my favorite podcasts is that when I like hosts, and I'm really engaged by hosts, especially, I mean, aside from true crime, but like the podcast I listen to,

but just like chat shows, especially, I mean, aside from True Crime, but like the podcast I listen to, but just like chat shows, like, you know, a conversation shows, I really love when like the guests make, or when the hosts make their guests feel actively listened to. Yeah. And like, are engaging with what they're saying, and aren't just like waiting for their turn to talk. Is there, you know what I mean?

Because that, I feel like that, that's the super common. And, you know, and I, I'm, You know what I mean? Because I feel like that's super common. And I really like the team sport of comedy and like want to make other people feel funny and like engaging and listen to because that's how people open up and that's how you get the best interactions and the best stories that's like people think.

Would people feel at ease, they're their funniest. Like people aren't like feeling like, so if you're listening to them, they're going to be more at ease. I think that's that's why I made that rule because on the show, I refuse to answer questions. Like that's my joke. It's a stick that I have on the show. It's a great out by the way. It also keeps like it keeps me from doing shit a lot of times. Right? It's like, Oh, oh, I got a story. I can tell a story right here. I can jump in right now. And it's times. I was like, oh, I got a story, I can tell a story right here. I can jump in right now.

It makes me more engaged. I have a rule that I don't tell stories on the show. So let it go. It doesn't matter. A lot of times when I hosted always open where purposely, sometimes I just wouldn't answer the question either because I was like, I don't really have much to contribute here or whatever.

And sometimes comes to be like, Barbara never answer. I'm like, I don't have to answer every question. This is more about the guests in my opinion. Or people who have like, an actual or input on it, right? Exactly. Because my story would be like, yeah, I broke my foot playing soccer.

Cool, like it, not an interesting thing, you know? As an example. You're like editing on the fly. You know, the best stuff to put forward. Yeah. I'm a terrible editor on the fly, so I tell no stuff. Exactly. You're nipin' in the blind.

Yeah, I'm gonna fuck this up, so I'm just not even gonna start. Well, I'm excited. I know you all joke about it for a long time about getting the more... It was a running gag on the show, now it's a real thing. It's like, shit. Now we have to try. Yeah, now we don't have ads on it. Yeah, we'll hopefully... Hopefully if we meet the threshold or whatever that means. Well, yeah, we don't have ads on it. Yeah, we'll hopefully. Hopefully if we meet the threshold or whatever that means.

Well, yeah, we have to, so say, please listen to the show once it's out on audio format, because that way we can keep doing it. You don't have a timeline for that. No, we just know that it's happening. We know that it's happening. We've been given this. Yeah, someone went like this. Was it an emoji?

Yeah, exactly. It was an emoji in a slack, or it was like, can we have a show? And it's like this. Wait, was it a reaction emoji, or was it actually typed out and sent as a thumbs up? Oh, how do you, I don't even know how to do that? Do you have to like, colon thumbs up? Oh, yeah, no. So it was like, can we have a show then they reacted to, can we have a show with a thumbs up or if they actually went into the, like, the, yeah, went into the bar to add a message. As they're in the message. So these were the reactions.

Ooh. Just the tips for you. We got the whole crew. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Thunder, I can't. Oh. Damn it.

Oh, there we go. We got a thumbs up in the, yep, there it is. Hey. Yeah, so that will be happening soon. We're gonna make that happen very soon. I'm hoping in the next like a couple of weeks, there will be episodes dropping

into a, into your, hopefully, hopefully if you're listening to other podcasts, we just randomly, happened very soon. I'm hoping in the next like couple of weeks, there will be episodes dropping into one of the podcast. Hopefully if you're listening to other podcasts, we just randomly, here's what I want. I want somebody who winds up listening to the most, be like, oh, I just saw them on my friends podcast because they were doing the tour and then now they're here. Like that's the goal. Yeah, there's a lot of podcasts.

So come through. Yeah, we're ready. How long do you think it'll take you to do every podcast? Every podcast? You know, like in a month, right? Yeah, like're ready. How long do you think it'll take you to do every podcast? Every podcast You know like in a month, right? Yeah, like six weeks Well some some go live some you know A week and some only tape, you know, schedule like scabby real this could be the worst part. Exactly I I will just pre-tape a bunch of like canned reactions. Yeah, and send those out to podcasts and they cut them in themselves You can make some now you can really good go ahead

Oh, are you serious? So good, so good. Oh, perfect. What a psychopath. Send this, get jumped right into it. There's nothing. Use that to your heart's content. Anyone at this? So cool.

Go on. Yeah, what? Go on. Go on. Oh. Oh. Sure. No. Oh, of course. That's terrible.

That's fantastic. You're kidding. This is like watching, I'm just watching it on the TV. It's like watching an edited cut down, but it's happening live. I'm not gonna watch that. None of me. There were last four minutes of the podcast.

We just want to have a conversation, reactions. Yeah, we can know, we can, we can, we can soundboard ourselves. Yeah. You don't say. Oh, that's wild. You're kidding. Okay, I can't do it. I was waiting for somebody to call it.

You're just getting your own head about it. No, I'm saying you just got to roll. I just go inside my head. I was like, what do people say? How do I have a normal conversation together? How do I respond to people? We speak and have been doing the podcast rounds. A couple of weeks ago we had a chance to talk with Kevin Smith about the Masters of the Universe. Netflix show that he worked on it just came out last week. And we talked to them well before the show came out.

And I think our interview with him came out before the show came out, so we couldn't spoil anything. We couldn't talk about the show. But the show is out now. People can watch it. It's been out for a couple of weeks. And that show, I looked it up on Rotten Tomatoes because I was curious, because I really liked the show. I thought that it was, they did a great job with it.

But they took some, they made some decisions, I thought might not sit well with some people. Okay. So I was curious to see what it was on Rotten Tomato. So I looked it up and this Masters Universe series on Netflix, the critic tomato is 96% fresh. Whoa. Audience score, 39%. Whoa!

What choice are we talking about? The show largely... This all happens episode one. Sure. I mean, this... If you're really 30 minutes away from the show, you're watching it. In the first 15, 30 minutes this happens.

They kind of sideline he-man. And they kind of focus on some ancillary characters who did exist in the old, you know, ladies TV show who are like For lack of a better term strong female characters just to show their story in Eternia and how they approach all these things that are going on in the world and I think a lot of that are going on in the world. And I think a lot of... amateur dudes, didn't like that? I don't know any nicer way to put that. I don't know if I need to put that any nicer.

Probably not. That was the nicest anybody's ever said that. It's a really good show. They put like five episodes out now, I think, and the next five are coming at some point in the future. It's so fucking good. It is so good. I can't comment it enough.

Did you watch Shira when it came out? Were they related? I'm just past that cast on Millennial. There was a shared universe. I don't remember what the connection between the two of them. Probably the same animation studio. By the like, canonically. Sure. I think there was as well. Shira, I remember, it's funny. I didn't get a chance to bring this up when we were talking with Kim. It's myth about it. But I remember watching's why I didn't get a chance to bring this up when we were talking with Kim and Smith about it, but I remember watching he man when I was really young like he came out when I was like in kindergarten

I was like five or six. He's still watch the shit out of he man all the time I remember even being like a little boy thinking I'm never gonna be like as muscular and strong as he man But man in arms. That's my guy I want to be a man in arms Very good. And I ended up being an orco. So you don't, you don't ever, sometimes you don't get to your goals. You win some, you lose some.

He was man. Yes, they're, I guess they introduced Shira in 1985 to try to expand the appeal of Master's Universe to young girls. Got it at the same time. So they do live in the shared universe. Overlapped. Yes. That's pretty cool.

But I just thought it was anything. I looked that up the other day on Rotten Tomatoes and just seeing the big discrepancy between audience scores. Of course. On two different ends. I mean, I just saw I haven't watched the show, but but I did watch the trailer and I mean, it looks awesome. I mean, it looks cool. I mean, very clean.

And I mean that from like, kind of, you know, there was a lot of discord. Hey, you guys, I ever check out this discourse online about like, and at the state of animation. You'll ever read the comments. You guys, you guys ever in the discourse? There was a like a recently kind of a lot of people piping up about the current state of animation,

especially American animation is in particular adult animated shows and how they look fucking terrible. Like, look and are animated unpleasant to look at. And like, there was a lot of like back and forth about people like, yeah, I don't just don't like looking at like a lot of adult animated shows. Like, it had, they, they do the character design is like really kind of unpleasant. And the movement is that like super kind of really quickly animated like family guy style of animation. It's like very, it's very quick. And like, it's not smooth. And it's like a budget thing or a style thing.

100% a budget thing. Like, well, while I, I'm doing that animating on the Tuesday thing, maybe that's what people are talking about. That might be it, but it's also, what are the examples? I'm trying to figure out like, what are you talking about?

Well, the thing I think it was maybe the, the, the, the, a lot of the discourse for the Fruing Two was that new, oh, I can't even say because it's on our network. What is it rhyme with? It rhymes with rinse or the rinse. It's the Prince guy.

There's a show coming out of the Prince. And it's about the Royal Family. It's about the British Royal Family. I like how you look right together. Right together. You know, you know about the Royal family. It's about the British Royal family. I like how you look right together. Right together. You know, the Royal family. Yeah, a lot of them. You're good at them.

But, and I think it's like, it comes to the character sign. It's like really fast, everything's exaggerated. I think that's what a lot of the discourse was about. Got it. I got it. When, but then, you know, in a high contract. So then someone went on a really interesting thread just about how budgets and workflows just affect animation and everything, it's just like faster, cheaper,

less personal to make it. And it's just like, yeah, and you have people working in very specific workflows to get stuff done. And just to turn stuff over, especially for animation, takes so much time. There's like, you think about the Simpsons work, to go back to the Simpsons, we're doing 22 episodes of a show. Now a season of animation is eight episodes if you're lucky.

Yeah. And it's eight episodes and they're like, and they just kept going. 18 minutes. Yeah. They didn't really have season breaks, right? No, you would, I would assume you'd play through hiatus. You would just keep going.

Yeah, they would have, normally, the old style, as summer would be the break and the season replacements in the summer. Gotcha, okay. I'm trying to remember how, yeah. How that worked, but it was just really interesting to see someone who, and animator on that side, like in the industry, like like talk about working in that environment

of working on those shows and how it's just pretty brutal. And so when you see, it's like, oh man, I don't like the way that animation looks or that character design looks or that movement or anything like that or the fact that the backgrounds and the color of the art and stuff, that's like no for the most part

that a lot of those are budgetary decisions, like it's gonna come down to a lot of it, and it's like really easy, and I, and this is like not a grand observation, but like, it's really easy, it's a lot cheaper to make your character a weird tube with a mouth over it that just changes. Like you do different mouth sets over kind of a weird

like tube character, and have over kind of a weird like tube character and have that kind of be the template. It's just like how Hannah Barbera gave you a a tie. They gave them all, they gave them all neckwear. They give them all like a tie. So you swap the heads out. Yeah, the body could just stay in one position and they just had to animate the head moving around and talking. Genius. The same kind of the same kind of thing. It's like brilliant. Efficiency. Yeah, efficiency hacks. We got to wrap up here pretty soon. But before we do, I had a tweet a couple weeks ago, and I'm curious to get you guys opinion on this as well. I was just curious to know how happy everyone was with Mondays as our live streaming day for the podcast.

I'm not saying I want to change it. Let's change it. I'm just saying, are there other days that work better? What brought this about was the fourth of July, is what brought this about, is whenever there's a three-day weekend, we invariably end up having to pre-tap the Monday episode of the podcast, which, like I don't know, has like- It happens more often than you think. Yeah, so I someone replied to my two, like, oh, I never noticed it, so I think it doesn't happen that often.

Trust me, it happens a lot right where it's it's There's a scheduling thing and then we hear like a year or something. Yeah, it's just I don't know It's just it can be stressful. So I just wanted to get more reaction beyond my Twitter followers. Just curious to get more reaction to people watching this video or listening to this audio Like let us know are there any days? I guess if you're listening to audio, the live time doesn't make a difference to you. But if you watch it live. It kind of does because if we change the day we do it live, a change is the day the audio will come out.

That's a good point. And also on the site and on YouTube and stuff. The thing we were talking about with the time change or the day change is that it's been hard sometimes on Mondays because we haven't really done much during the week yet. Yes, you have the weekend, but typically, especially this last year and a half has been mostly just chillin' at home. We used to go out and do things on the weekend, but it's been a while.

And we'll probably get back to that. But let's say it was a Tuesday or Wednesday afternoon or evening. At that point, you have more week to go off of, more has happened with work or in your personal life or whatever. So there's kind of like, it's more of like a midweek refresher of what's going on and it feels more like you got more to talk about and stuff coming up and you know what's going on in that way. So that was like one of the biggest I think arguments for potentially looking more towards the middle of the week rather than a Monday. Yeah, and I guess to your point, the timing for audio consumption.

Yeah, I know a lot of people listen to it earlier in a week. It's also to, should we also maybe do a different time? I might go and say more now. Just because like, We used to do it when, well, you guys used to do it once in a while. We put in the morning. I mean, the reason we have like a delay in getting the audio out is because we do it so late at night,

like we can't have it in good conscience as someone to stay here after we're done and work and cut the audio together Right, so it's like you had to use the delay if we taped this earlier in the day then maybe we get stuff turned around faster Yeah No, when did we used to do it in the old conference room? What time is that I was we used to do it in Wednesdays and I want to say we would do it at 10 a.m Because that's what that's what we would go eat lunch immediately after we would always end it with what we're gonna get for lunch

I loved it then It was great. Yeah. Everyone's fresh. It's just a hard, I know a lot of people watch this after work. Yeah. Or at work? Or at work?

Maybe. Yeah. So, I mean, let's say, quickly minimizing this show, the boss walks back. Yeah, it makes so much sense to do a live at Wednesday at 10. But, that's like a good time for like a VOD. Yeah. Well, let us know what you guys think.

I'm just curious to get feedback. Does it mean that we're necessarily changing anything? I just want to know what the consumption, what your opinion is for people who don't have a statement. The most interesting, we want the best content possible for the podcast. And if that helps the content, then it's an over here. Yeah, we wanted to be entertaining for you guys.

Yeah, all right, well speaking of entertaining, that's it for this episode. Thanks for watching. What's you guys again next. All right. Well, speaking of entertaining, that's it for the seventh. Thanks a lot for watching. What's you guys next week? Watch the most. And listen to it. Listen to it. Listen to it.

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